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The Lamb and the Dragon

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Participants: J.D. & Shelley Quinn (Host), James Rafferty

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00:22 YOU ARE JUST JOINING US, WE WELCOME YOU.
00:24 AND WE WANT TO MENTION THAT WE WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR
00:27 YOUR PRAYERS AND YOUR LOVE AND YOUR FINANCIAL SUPPORT AND
00:30 PARTICULARLY, WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT ALL OF YOU WHO HAVE JOINED
00:34 THE GO EVANGELISTIC TEAM. >> AMEN.
00:37 >> BUT I'M SHELLEY QUINN. >> AND THIS IS.
00:41 >> J.D. >> I'M THE WIFE OF J.D. QUINN.
00:44 WE GOT THAT RIGHT THIS TIME. >> WE KNOW WHO WE ARE.
00:46 >> AND OUR SPECIAL GUEST IS JAMES RAFFERTY WHO IS LEADING US
00:49 IN A FASCINATING STUDY ON THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE LAMB AND
00:53 THE DRAGON FROM REVELATION 12. SO YOU MIGHT GRAB YOUR BIBLE AND
00:57 OPEN UP TO REVELATION 12 AND JAMES, BEFORE WE GET GOING ONE
01:02 MORE TIME, WE DO HAVE A SONG WITH PASTOR JOHN, BUT WOULD YOU
01:07 JUST SUMMARIZE VERY BRIEFLY WHAT THE THREE CHARACTERISTICS WE
01:11 HAVE LOOKED AT, OF THE LAMB, THE CHRIST -- THE CHRISTIANS AND THE
01:16 THREE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE DRAGON REPRESENTING SATAN.
01:20 >> ABSOLUTELY. REVELATION 12:1 TELLS US THE
01:23 CHARACTERISTICS OF GOD'S PEOPLE ARE FIRST OF ALL THAT THEY ARE
01:25 COVERED IN THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF JESUS CHRIST.
01:28 NUMBER TWO, THAT THEY ARE STANDING ON THE WORD OF GOD.
01:31 AND NUMBER THREE, THAT THEY ARE ORGANIZED FOR SERVICE.
01:33 AND THEN IN REVELATION 12:3 OF THE CHARACTERISTICS THAT WE HAVE
01:39 IDENTIFIED OF THE DRAGON, NUMBER ONE, HE'S A DECEIVER, VERSE 4.
01:42 NUMBER TWO, HE HATES BECAUSE HE HATES THE WOMAN AND THE CHILD
01:46 THAT BRINGS HER FORTH -- THAT IS BROUGHT FORTH FROM HER.
01:50 AND NUMBER THREE, VERSE 10, THAT HE'S AN ACCUSER.
01:53 SO HE'S FILLED WITH DECEPTION, HATRED AND ACCUSATIONS.
01:57 THESE ARE THINGS, CHARACTERISTICS WE DON'T WANT.
02:02 WE WANT TO BE FILLED WITH RIGHTEOUSNESS OF JESUS AND THE
02:05 WORD OF GOD AND BE READY TORE SERVICE.
02:08 >> THAT'S A GREAT BRIEF SUMMARY. >> BEFORE WE GET INTO OUR
02:10 FURTHER STORY. WE HAVE OUR VERY OWN PASTOR JOHN
02:17 LOMACANG WHO WILL BE SINGING "I GIVE ALL OF MY LIFE TO YOU."
02:25 ♪ ♪ I GIVE ALL MY SERVICE TO YOU ♪
02:44 ♪ I GIVE ALL MY SERVICE TO YOU ♪ ♪ NO MATTER THE COST OR WHAT I
03:00 DO ♪ ♪ I GIVE ALL MY SERVICE TO YOU ♪
03:09 ♪ I GIVE ALL MY PROBLEMS TO YOU ♪
03:17 ♪ I GIVE ALL MY PROBLEMS TO YOU ♪
03:27 ♪ NO MATTER THE COST OR WHAT I DO, ♪
03:36 ♪ I GIVE ALL MY PROBLEMS TO YOU ♪
03:41 ♪ I GIVE ALL MY FAMILY TO YOU ♪ ♪ I GIVE ALL MY FAMILY, LORD, TO
03:55 YOU ♪ ♪ NO MATTER THE COST OR WHAT
04:06 OTHERS DO ♪ ♪ I GIVE ALL MY FAMILY TO YOU ♪
04:18 ♪ I GIVE ALL MY FUTURE TO YOU ♪ ♪ I GIVE ALL MY FUTURE, LORD, TO
04:34 YOU ♪ ♪ NO MATTER THE COST OR WHAT
04:44 OTHERS DO ♪ ♪ I GIVE ALL MY FUTURE TO YOU ♪
04:55 ♪ I GIVE ALL MY WORSHIP TO YOU ♪ ♪ I GIVE ALL MY WORSHIP TO YOU ♪
05:14 ♪ NO MATTER THE COST OR WHAT OTHERS DO ♪
05:24 ♪ I GIVE ALL MY WORSHIP TO YOU ♪ ♪ I GIVE ALL MY WORSHIP TO
05:45 YOU ♪ >> THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL SONG AND
06:06 WE SO RESPECT AND ADMIRE OUR PASTOR JOHN LOMACANG.
06:11 >> HE JUST MAKES IT LOOK SO EASY.
06:13 >> IT IS EASY FOR HIM. AND ONCE AGAIN TONIGHT, WE ARE
06:16 STUDYING THE -- HOW PEOPLE ARE EITHER DEVELOPING THE CHARACTER
06:20 OF THE LAMB, JESUS CHRIST, OR WE ARE REFLECTING THE CHARACTER OF
06:25 SATAN. AND WE ARE JUST GOING TO TURN IT
06:27 RIGHT OVER TO YOU, BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW A LOT
06:32 ABOUT, AND WE'RE LEARNING A LOT. >> AMEN.
06:34 REVELATION 12, AS I SAID EARLIER WHEN WE STARTED, THIS IS
06:36 PROBABLY THE ONE CHAPTER I MIGHT CHOOSE OVER EVERY OTHER IN THE
06:39 BOOK OF REVELATION TO HELP ME AND GUIDE ME IN UNDERSTANDING
06:43 THE GREAT CONTROVERSY THAT WE ARE INVOLVED IN BETWEEN GOOD AND
06:46 EVIL. AND THE BIG STORY, THE BIG
06:48 PICTURE, AND THEN WHAT OUR GOAL IS, WHAT OUR DESTINY IS, AND WE
06:52 HAVE TALKED ABOUT REVELATION 12:1 A NUMBER OF TIMES BUT I
06:55 WANT TO EMPHASIZE ONE MORE TIME, THIS IS OUR DESTINY.
07:00 >> AMEN. >> GOD WANTS TO GET US TO THE
07:02 PLACE WHERE WE ARE CLOTHED IN THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF JESUS
07:05 CHRIST. WE ARE TRUSTING IN HIS PERFECT
07:06 LIFE AND HIS PERFECT DEATH HIS RESURRECTION.
07:09 WHEN WE GET TO THIS PLACE AND WE ARE STANDING ON THE WORD OF GOD
07:11 AND WE ARE PART OF HIS ORGANIZED CHURCH, WE WILL KEEP THE
07:15 COMMANDMENTS OF GOD. IN FACT, THINK ABOUT THIS.
07:17 PREVIOUS TO REVELATION 12:1, THERE IS NO MENTION OF A CHURCH,
07:21 OR A PEOPLE OR INDIVIDUALS WHO KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD IN
07:23 THE BOOK OF REVELATION. NEVER MENTIONED.
07:25 NOT IN REVELATION 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11.
07:30 IT'S NOT UNTIL GOD BRINGS US THIS PICTURE OF A WOMAN WHO IS
07:33 CLOTHED WITH THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF CHRIST THAT HE THEN POINTS US
07:36 TO THE REMNANT OF THE WOMAN WHO KEEPS THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD.
07:39 WHAT IS THAT TELLING US? >> AMEN.
07:42 >> THAT ONLY IF WE ARE CLOTHED WITH THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF JESUS
07:45 CHRIST, THAT'S WHEN THE HOLY SPIRIT IS WORKING IN US AND
07:49 WILLING TO DO GOD'S GOOD PLEASURE.
07:51 SO WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS BY HIS POWER.
07:53 >> YES. >> BY HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS.
07:57 YES. >> AND INFLUENCE.
07:58 >> IT'S ONLY AS WE SEE THAT JESUS CHRIST IS OUR FULL AND
08:00 COMPLETE SAVIOR THAT WE FALL IN LOVE WITH HIM.
08:02 AND WHEN WE FALL IN LOVE WITH HIM, WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS.
08:05 >> AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY WHICH SIDE WE ARE ON
08:08 HERE. >> MM-HMM.
08:09 >> AND HERE'S THE POINT, I THINK IT'S A BEAUTIFUL ONE, THE POINT
08:12 IS IN REVELATION 12:11 THAT THEY, GOD'S PEOPLE OVERCOME HIM
08:17 BY THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB, BY THE WORD OF THEIR TESTAMENT AND THEY
08:20 LOVE NOT THEIR LIVES UNDER THE DEATH.
08:22 THE POINT IS, IS THAT WE NEED TO IDENTIFY NOT SO MUCH THAT WE
08:28 AREN'T ACCUSERS, DECEIVERS, AND ANGRY, AND FILLED WITH HATE.
08:33 WE ARE. THE POINT WE NEED TO IDENTIFY IS
08:36 THAT WE CAN OVERCOME THAT. >> AMEN.
08:38 >> WE CAN OVERCOME THE CHARACTERISTICS OF DRAGON.
08:41 WE CAN OVERCOME THE CHARACTERISTICS AND THE
08:43 ACCUSATIONS OF SATAN. SATAN IS BASICALLY -- EVEN IF
08:46 YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO ADMIT, IT SATAN WILL TELL YOU, YOU DON'T
08:49 DESERVE HEAVEN. YOU DON'T DESERVE CHURCH.
08:51 YOU DON'T DESERVE TO BE WITH ANYONE OTHER THAN IN PRISON
08:54 SOMEWHERE OR, YOU KNOW -- YOU DON'T DESERVE ANY OF THAT.
08:57 HE WAN WANTS TO LOAD US WITH GUILT. HE WANTS TO PRESS US DOWN.
09:03 HE'S ACCUSING US DAY AND NIGHT. THIS IS HIS FULL-TIME JOB.
09:07 HE DOESN'T TAKE HOLIDAYS OR VACATIONS AND HE DOESN'T SLEEP.
09:10 >> YOU KNOW WHAT THOUGHT JUST STRUCK ME.
09:13 HE'S ACCUSING BUT THERE'S ALMOST -- THE JUXTAPOSITION OF
09:17 THAT IS THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO THINK THEY ARE SO WONDERFUL BUT
09:20 SATAN IS USIN ACCUSING GOD. HE'S EITHER ACCUSING US OR
09:25 ACCUSING GOD. THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO THINK
09:27 THEY ARE TOO GOOD, TOO COOL AND DON'T NEED GOD BECAUSE THEY
09:30 DON'T THINK THAT GOD IS ON THEIR SIDE.
09:31 >> AND HOW DO WE OVERCOME THAT? HOW DO WE OVERCOME --
09:35 >> BY THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB. >> BY THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB.
09:38 >> AND BY THE WORD OF THEIR TESTIMONY AND THEY LOVE NOT
09:41 THEIR LIVES UNTO THE DEATH. >> YES.
09:43 >> NOW HERE'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS REALLY SIGNIFICANT IN
09:46 THIS LAST PHRASE BECAUSE THIS IS A CHARACTERISTIC OF GOD'S
09:48 PEOPLE. THEY ARE SELFLESS.
09:50 THEY ARE OTHER SENT. THEY DON'T LOVE THEIR LIVES.
09:52 THEY ARE NOT THINKING OF THEMSELVES.
09:54 THEY ARE THINKING OF OTHERS. ADVERTISEADVERTISE VITAL FOR MARRIAGE --
09:59 IT'S VITAL FOREIGN MARRIAGES AND OUR RELATIONSHIPS IN COMMUNITIES
10:02 AND TOWNS. IT'S VITAL WITH OUR
10:04 RELATIONSHIPS WITH OTHER PEOPLE AND NATIONS.
10:05 IT'S VITAL FOR THE CHARACTER OF GOD TO BE FULLY REPRODUCED.
10:09 GOD IS RELATING A PEOPLE WHO ARE LIKE JESUS SO MUCH THAT THEY
10:15 DON'T EVEN LIVE -- AND I'M GOING TO SAY THIS CAREFULLY.
10:17 THEY DON'T LIVE BY A CODE OF COMMANDMENTS.
10:20 THEY DO, BUT THE -- THE ESSENCE OF THAT CODE OF COMMANDMENTS IS
10:25 SELFLESS OTHER CENTERED LIVING. THE JEWS COULD TAKE OFF THE
10:31 COMMANDMENTS BUT THEY WEREN'T LIVING OTHER SINNER LIVES.
10:35 JESUS LIVED A SELFLESS LIFE. WHEN HE LIVED A SELFLESS LIFE,
10:39 HE KEPT THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD. THAT'S WAS THE OUTWARD
10:44 MANIFESTATION. >> CAN I GIVE YOU A LITTLE
10:46 NUGGETS. >> YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES.
10:49 >> ONE OF MY FAVORITE SCRIPTURES HAS BECOME 1 THESSALONIANS
10:59 3:12-13 MAY THE LORD ALLOW TO INCREASE IN LOVE THAT HE MAY
11:02 ESTABLISH YOUR HEART BLAMELESS IN HOLINESS.
11:06 SO AS WE GROW IN LOVE, WE GROW IN HOLINESS.
11:08 >> YES. >> AS I WAS STUDYING THIS
11:10 RECENTLY, YOU KNOW, ROMANS 5:5 SAID GOD POURS HIS LOVE INTO OUR
11:14 HEARTS BY THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.
11:17 IT OCCURRED TO ME, GOD IS LOVE. HIS PERFECTION, HIS HOLINESS IS
11:26 ESTABLISHED BY THAT LOVE. >> MM-HMM.
11:28 >> AND THEN WHEN HE POURED HIS LOVE INTO OUR HEART, THAT'S HOW
11:32 HE ESTABLISHES OUR PERFECTION. HE MAKES US PERFECT AND IT'S
11:36 ONLY WHEN WE HAVE GOT THAT LOVE THAT -- LIKE YOU SAID, THEN
11:43 OBEDIENCE -- YOU WANT TO OBEY. YOU WANT TO PLEASE YOUR FATHER.
11:48 >> MM-HMM. >> YOU HAVE THE SELF-SACRIFICING
11:51 LOVE OF JESUS CHRIST IN THE LORD IN YOUR HEART, AND SO I SEE THE
11:59 GREAT CONTROVERSY KIND OF AS A CONTEST BETWEEN THE
12:03 SELF-SACRIFICING LOVE OF GOD, AND THE SELFISH SELF LOVE OF THE
12:10 DEVIL. >> YOU JUST SUMMARIZED, IT'S
12:17 SELFISHNESS VERSUS SELFLESSNESS. OTHER CENTERED LOVE VERSUS
12:22 SELFISHNESS, I, I, I. WE HAVE iPHONES AND iPADS
12:24 AND WE HAVE IMAX AND WE HAVE I EVERYTHING.
12:28 THAT'S NOT A NEGATIVE. I HAVE AN iPHONE, BUT IT'S THE
12:31 POINT IS, IS THAT OUR SOCIETY IS FOCUSED ON SELF.
12:34 IT ALL COMES TO SELF AND WE LOVE OTHER PEOPLE AND WE WORSHIP
12:38 OTHER PEOPLE BECAUSE WE WORSHIP SELF.
12:40 AND WE SEE IN THEM SOMETHING THAT WE WANT OR SOMETHING THAT
12:43 WE ADMIRE THAT WE AT ATTAIN TO THAT GLORIFIES THEM AND THEIR SENSE,
12:49 AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE FANS OF ALL OF THAT.
12:52 IT'S COUNTERFEIT. THE BIBLE, DANIEL 12
12:55 SPECIFICALLY VERSE 3 SAYS THAT WE ARE TO BE STARS.
12:58 EVERYONE IS BORN TO BE A STAR. THERE'S NO SPECIAL PEOPLE THAT
13:00 ARE STARS ABOVE EVERYONE ELSE. BUT ALL OF US IN GOD'S SIGHT ARE
13:04 STARS. TO SHINE AS THE BRIGHTNESS OF
13:07 AFFIRMMENT FOREVER AND EVER AND SO IN REVELATION 12, WE HAVE
13:11 THESE THREE ADDITIONAL CHARACTERISTICS OF GOD'S CHURCH,
13:16 OF GOD'S PEOPLE, THEY ARE OVERCOME BY THE BLOOD OF THE
13:18 LAMB. THEY RELY ON JESUS, ON HIS BLOOD
13:21 AND HIS DEATH AND THEY RELY ON WHAT HE HAS ACCOMPLISHED AND IT
13:25 SAYS THEY HAVE A TESTIMONY. THIS IS IMPORTANT AND
13:27 SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE AS IMPORTANT AS IT IS FOR US TO BE ORGANIZED
13:30 FOR SERVICE, THE CHURCH AND BEING PART OF THE CHURCH DOES
13:33 NOT SAVE US. WE ARE NOT SAVED.
13:36 >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> BY BEING PART OF THE CHURCH.
13:37 WE ARE SAVED BY A PERSON NAMED JESUS CHRIST.
13:40 >> AMEN. >> AND A RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS
13:42 CHRIST. I DIDN'T KNOW YOU.
13:43 BUT WAIT A MINUTE, WE PROPHESIED.
13:45 WE DID LOTS OF WONDERFUL WORKS IN YOUR NAME.
13:47 WE WERE CHRISTIANS. I DIDN'T KNOW YOU.
13:49 >> WE DID ALL KINDS OF HEALTH FAIRS.
13:52 >> THERE ARE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE AND I KNOW BECAUSE I WAS RAISED
13:55 IN A CHURCH, A CHRISTIAN ENVIRONMENT THAT GO TO CHURCH,
13:58 YOU WERE PART OF A CHURCH THAT DID ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
14:01 THEY HAVE PRAY EVERY NIGHT, AND I DID THAT EVERY NIGHT WHETHER I
14:04 WAS DRUNK OR SOBER, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW CHURCH.
14:06 I DIDN'T HAVE ANY PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP.
14:08 AND I WASN'T TAUGHT TO I HAVE A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP.
14:12 THAT CHURCH I WAS RAISED IN TEACHES THAT YOU HAVING A
14:15 PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS IS NOT THE IMPORTANT THING BUT
14:19 BEING PART OF THE CHURCH IS IMPORTANT TO.
14:20 ME, THIS IS VITAL BECAUSE THEY HAVE A TESTIMONY, WORLD OF THEIR
14:23 TESTIMONY, WHAT IS THE WORD OF THEIR TESTIMONY?
14:25 IT IS WHAT JESUS HAS DONE IN THEIR LIVES.
14:27 IT'S HOW JESUS HAS WORKED IN THEIR LIVES AND HE'S WORKING IN
14:29 OUR LIVES EVERY SINGLE DAY BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE DAY, YOU
14:32 KNOW, WE ARE FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT AND EVERY SINGLE DAY THEY
14:35 ARE MOVING FORWARD AND YOU CAN IMAGINE WHAT PAUL'S TESTIMONY
14:38 WAS. HE WROTE A LOT OF NEW TEST.
14:42 THE PERSON WHO WROTE A GOOD PORTION OF IT WAS LUKE, A GREEK.
14:46 AND PAUL WROTE IT TOO. A LOT OF WHAT HE WROTE WAS HIS
14:50 PERSONAL TESTIMONY AND WHAT HE WAS GOING THROUGH AND HOW GOD
14:53 DELIVERED HIM AND HOW GRACE WAS SUFFICIENT FOR HIM AND WHAT GOD
14:57 DID IN HIS LIFE AND THAT'S POWERFUL.
14:59 YOU HAVE SEE, IT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR US TO KNOW THE WORD
15:02 AND TO EXHORT AND TALK ABOUT THE WORD.
15:04 WE NEED TO KNOW THE AUTHOR OF THE WORD.
15:06 WE HAVE NEED TO KNOW THE SAVIOR IN THE WORD AND WE NEED TO KNOW
15:11 HOWL HE'S WORKING IN OUR LIFE AND BE ABLE TO SHARE THAT WITH
15:14 PEOPLE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE.
15:15 THEY ARE LIKE, REALLY? WHAT?
15:17 YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST NOT -- IT'S NOT JUST HERE.
15:19 IT'S HERE. OUR PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE.
15:23 >> BY OVERCOMING BY THE WORD OF YOUR TESTIMONY.
15:27 THE PROVERBS SAYS THE POWER OF DEATH AND LIFE IS IN THE TONGUE.
15:30 AND PAUL SAYS IN 2 CORINTHIANS 4:13, HE SAYS, WE BELIEVE -- WE
15:35 SPEAK WITH THE SAME SPIRIT OF FAITH AS IT IS WRITTEN,
15:41 THEREFORE I BELIEVE. -- I BELIEVED AND THEREFORE I
15:42 SPOKE. SO WE ALSO BELIEVE AND THEREFORE
15:45 SPEAK. I THINK SPEAKING IN THE SPIRIT
15:48 OF FAITH IS SOMETHING THAT'S PART OF OUR TESTIMONY.
15:50 WHEN WE ACCEPT THE PROMISES OF GOD, WHEN WE SPEAK THESE
15:53 PROMISES OF GOD, AND SPEAK WITH THAT SPIRIT OF FAITH, THAT'S ONE
15:56 OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK HELPS US OVERCOME.
15:58 >> AND THAT'S PART OF OUR EXPERIENCE.
16:00 >> YES. >> BECAUSE OUR EXPERIENCE IS
16:02 SPEAKING TOWARDS THE FAITH, AND THE SPEAKING --
16:05 >> EVERYBODY -- EVERYBODY HANDLES THAT DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE
16:08 EVERYBODY HAS DIFFERENT DNA. YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE
16:11 THAT CAN'T REMEMBER EVERYTHING, BUT YET THEY CAN TESTIFY.
16:13 YOU KNOW, THEY CAN SAY WHAT JESUS DOES IN THEIR LIFE.
16:16 >> ABSOLUTELY. >> AND A LOT OF PEOPLE BEAT
16:18 THEMSELVES UP, OH, I DON'T -- I CAN'T -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT
16:24 THAT -- I CAN'T REMEMBER, AND I KNOW I USED TO BEAT MYSELF UP ON
16:27 IT. BOY, I KEPT REMEMBERING.
16:29 LORD, I WILL COME WHEN I HAVE TO STAND AND I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO
16:31 TESTIFY FOR YOU. I'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO SAY THE
16:34 SAME WORDS AND THEN IT CAME -- IT CAME AND HE SAID, THAT'S A
16:38 OKAY J.D. I WILL BRING TO YOUR
16:41 REMEMBRANCE. YOU NEED TO GET IN AND STUDY AND
16:43 BRING THAT UP TO ME. THAT'S HELPED A LOT OF PEOPLE
16:46 BECAUSE OTHERWISE -- MAYBE THAT'S THE WORKS.
16:48 BUT YOU DON'T MEAN FOR THIS TO BE THE WORKS IT.
16:51 KIND OF GETS COMPLICATED. >> IT'S NOT.
16:53 SEE, WHAT YOU ARE DESCRIBING J.D., WHAT YOU ARE DESCRIBING,
16:56 SHELLEY, ARE A TESTIMONY. >> YEAH.
16:58 >> YOU ARE DESCRIBING HOW GOD HAS LED YOU TO CLAIM HIS
17:00 PROMISES. >> RIGHT.
17:01 >> YOU ARE DESCRIBING HOW GOD HAS LED YOU IN YOUR OWN PERSONAL
17:04 EXPERIENCE AND PEOPLE ARE LISTENING AND PEOPLE THAT CAN'T
17:07 RELATE TO ANYTHING I SAID TONIGHT ARE GOING TO RELATE TO
17:09 WHAT YOU HAVE SAID OR RELATE TO WHAT YOU SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M
17:12 SAYING? BECAUSE WE ARE ALL HUMANS THAT
17:13 HAVE A TESTIMONY AND AN EXPERIENCE AND THE TESTIMONY
17:16 EXPERIENCE OF ALL OF GOD'S PEOPLE NEED TO BE HEARD.
17:21 SOME OF US ARE TONGUES AND SOME OF US OR EARS AND SOME OF US ARE
17:24 THUMBS AND SOME OF US ARE FEET AND TOES, RIGHT?
17:26 >> AMEN. >> AND AS THE BODY COMMUNICATES
17:29 THIS TESTIMONY, THE WORLD LISTENS AND THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT
17:33 THERE WHOSE CONSCIENCE IS PRICKED AND THE HOLY SPIRIT
17:36 CONVICTS THEM. THEY SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, I CAN
17:37 REALLY RELATE TO THAT. AND THAT DRAWS THEM, EACH ONE
17:40 WHO IS LISTENING HERE. AND SO THE WORD OF GOD IS ALIVE.
17:43 >> AMEN. >> TONIGHT.
17:44 WE ARE READING THESE BIBLE VERSES.
17:46 WE ARE READING A MIXTURE EVER PROPHECY AND SPIRITUAL CHARACTER
17:50 DEVELOPMENT. WE ARE READING ABOUT OUR
17:52 FAILURES AND WEAKNESSES AND OUR INCLINATION TO BE FILLED WITH
17:55 HATE AND ANGER AND DECEPTION AND ACCUSATION AND THE DESIRE THAT
17:59 JESUS HAS AND THE POWER THAT HE HAS TO HELP US TO OVERCOME THIS
18:03 BY HIS BLOOD AND BY HIS TESTIMONY, AND BY THE SELFLESS
18:08 LOVE THAT HE WANTS TO PUT IN OUR HEARTS.
18:09 THAT'S WHAT WE ARE READING ABOUT, BUT WE ARE ALSO READING
18:11 ABOUT PROPHECY. WE ARE READING ABOUT GOD'S
18:13 CHURCH AND THE OLD TESTAMENT THAT JESUS WAS BORN INTO AS A
18:16 JEW. AND HOW THAT TRANSITION TOOK
18:18 PLACE FROM THAT OLD TESTAMENT, LITERAL JEWISH CHURCH TO THE NEW
18:22 CHRISTIAN CHURCH AND HOW GOD DELIVERED THEM INTO A GLORIOUS
18:26 LAND OF ECONOMIC PROSPERITY AND RELIGIOUS LIBERTY AND THEN IN
18:29 THE NEW TESTAMENT, GOD TOOK HIS CHURCH THAT WAS PERSECUTED AND
18:33 IT BROUGHT THEM THROUGH THIS DARK PERIOD AND OUT INTO A PLACE
18:37 CALLED THE EARTH THAT SWALLOWED UP THE FLOOD OF PERSECUTION AND
18:41 HE BROUGHT HIM WITH EAGLE'S WINGS JUST LIKE DID HE IN THE
18:44 OLD TESTAMENT AND GAVE THEM ECONOMIC PROSPERITY AND
18:47 RELIGIOUS FREEDOM. AND HOW IN THIS PLACE THIS
18:49 EARTH, THAT THIS POWER, THIS GOVERNMENT, THIS EARTHLY KINGDOM
18:54 WOULD RISE UP THAT HAD THE PRINCIPLES THAT WERE LAMB-LIKE
18:56 AT FIRST, OUR CONSTITUTION AND THE AMENDMENTS AND ALL THE
18:59 PRINCIPLES OF RELIGIOUS AND SPIRITUAL FREEDOM, THAT A
19:05 RELIGIOUS AND CIVIL FREEDOM, THAT IS GOING TO TRANSITION INTO
19:07 THE PRINCIPLES OF THE DRAGON. >> MM-HMM.
19:10 >> AND THE PRINCIPLES OF THE DRAGON NOW ARE WHAT WE WANT TO
19:13 LOOK AT AS WE MOVE PAST REVELATION CHAPTER 12.
19:16 WE WILL CLOSE OUT REVELATION 12:17 THE DRAGON WAS BROTH WITH
19:22 THE WOMAN AND WENT TO MAKE WAR WITH THE REMNANT OF HER SEED TO
19:26 KEACH THE COMMANDMENT OF GOD AND THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS.
19:28 WE TALKED ABOUT THE COMMANDMENTS AND THAT'S ANOTHER
19:33 CHARACTERISTIC OF GOD'S PEOPLE. WE RECOGNIZE IN REVELATION
19:41 19:10, IT'S A GIFT THAT GOD HAS GIVEN TO HIS CHURCH TO
19:45 UNDERSTAND PROPHECY. JAMES, YOU UNDERSTAND PROPHECY.
19:47 I UNDERSTAND PROPHECY BECAUSE GOD HAS GIVEN THIS CHURCH THE
19:49 GIFT OF PROPHECY AND I FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT THAT GIFT OF
19:52 PROPHECY AND I HOLD THAT GIFT OF PROPHECY AND THAT GIFT.
19:56 PROPHECY HELPS US TO UNDERSTAND BIBLE PROPHECY AND I'M TALKING
19:59 SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE WRITINGS. AND THEN IT SAYS HERE 17 STILL,
20:05 THE DRAGON IS WROTH AND HE GOES TO MAKE WAR.
20:08 SO YOU SEE THE DRAGON WARS AND IN REVELATION 13:1, JOHN STANDS
20:15 UPON THE SAND OF THE SEA AND HE SEES ANOTHER BEAST.
20:18 I SAW A BEAST RISE UP OUT OF THE SEA, A BEAST REPRESENTS AN
20:21 EARTHLY HUMAN POWER ACCORDING TO DANIEL 17:23 AND HE HAS SEVEN
20:28 HEADS AND 10 HORNS AND UPON HIS HEAD IS 10 HORNS AND BLASPHEMY
20:36 OR SLANDER. AND THE MOUTH WAS THE MOUTH OF A
20:41 LION AND THE DRAGON GAVE HIM HIS POWER, HIS SEAT AND GREAT
20:44 AUTHORITY. SO THIS IS ALSO AN EARTHLY POWER
20:50 THAT HAS THESE DRAGON-LIKE POWERS.
20:54 I DON'T WANT TO GET OFF, THE DRAGON AND YOU ARE IDENTIFYING
20:56 THESE. NO, WE WANT TO LOOK AT THE
20:59 CHARACTERISTICS OF THE DRAGON. WE ARE LOOKING AT EARTHLY
21:01 POWERS, POLITICAL POWERS, RELIGIOUS POWERS THAT ARE
21:05 DECEPTIVE, THAT ARE ACCUSETORY, THAT ARE ANGRY AND FILLED WITH
21:11 HATE. THAT HAS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT.
21:13 DO WE THESE THOSE KIND OF RELIGIOUS POWERS IN THE WORLD
21:17 TODAY? YES.
21:17 ARE WE LIKE THAT? >> HMM.
21:21 >> YES. >> SELF-EXAMINATION.
21:24 >> NATURALLY WE TEND IN THAT DIRECTION.
21:27 GOD WANTS TO FILL US WITH THE LAMB-LIKE CHARACTERISTICS OF HIS
21:29 SON JESUS. THAT'S WHAT HE WANTS TO US DO.
21:31 WE ARE IN THIS CONTROVERSY. AND WE ARE POINT TO RELIGIOUS
21:35 ENTITIES AND WE CAN POINT TO GRAND CATHEDRALS AND WE CAN
21:37 POINT TO THESE DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING THESE TERRIBLE
21:40 THINGS, BUT WHERE DO WE STAND? DON'T MASK OUR OWN HEARTS BY
21:45 POINTING AT ALL OF THE, YOU KNOW, FAULTS OF OTHER PEOPLE.
21:47 WE ARE JUST BECOMING THE ACCUSER OF THE BRETHREN.
21:53 WE WANT TO IDENTIFY THE SYSTEMS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO BE IN
21:57 HARMONY WITH BUT WE WANT TO EXAMINE OUR OWN HEARTS THAT WE
22:00 ARE NOT DEVELOPING THESE SYMBOLS.
22:02 IT SAYS THAT THE DRAGON GIVES POWER TO THIS EARTHLY POWER,
22:10 THIS BEAST. THINK ABOUT THIS, THE WHOLE
22:11 WORLD IS WONDERING AFTER THIS EARTHLY POWER, WHICH IS A
22:14 RELIGIOUS POWER, BECAUSE IN VERSE 4, IT TALKS ABOUT HOW THEY
22:18 WORSHIPED THE DRAGON WHEN GAVE POWER TO THE BEAST AND WHO IS
22:22 LIKE UNDER THE BEAST? WHO IS ABLE TO MAKE WORE WITH
22:24 HIM? -- WAR WITH HIM.
22:26 SOMETIMES WE THINK ABOUT SATAN COMING IN THAT DRAGON-LIKE FORM
22:31 AND THE DRAGON IS A SYMBOL. THIS' NOWHERE WHERE SATAN IS RED
22:35 AND WITH A HORN. >> IT SAYS THAT HE MASQUERADES
22:41 AS AN ANGEL OF LIGHT. >> YES IN 2 CORINTHIANS 13, 14
22:47 AND 15. HE'S GIVING IF FALSE PICTURE OF
22:49 WHAT HE REALLY LOOKS LIKE. THERE'S NOWHERE IN THE BIBLE
22:51 THAT PICTURES HIM LIKE THAT. HE'S PICTURES AS AN ANGEL OF
22:55 LIGHT AND THE MINISTERS ARE THE MINISTERS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS.
22:58 AND WE DON'T WANT TO EMPHASIZE NECESSARILY WHO IS BECAUSE WE
23:02 CAN IDENTIFY THIS. WE CAN'T IDENTIFY IT THROUGH
23:04 HISTORY. IT IS VERY EASY TO IDENTIFY THIS
23:06 RELIGIOUS SYSTEM AND TO IDENTIFY THE NEXT POWER THAT COMES UP OUT
23:08 OF THE EARTH. WE HAVE IDENTIFIED AS THE UNITED
23:10 STATES. BUT THAT WON'T DO US ANY GOOD
23:12 WHATSOEVER IF WE MISS THE CHARACTERISTICS AND WE ARE
23:15 DEVELOPING THOSE CHARACTERISTICS.
23:16 SO WHAT ARE THEY? WELL, IT SAYS HERE IN VERSE 5,
23:18 AND IT WAS GIVEN UNTO HIM A MOUTH SPEAKING GREAT THINGS IN
23:23 BLASPHEMIES OR SLANDERS DO. WE SPEAK GREAT THINGS ABOUT
23:27 OURSELVES DO WE FILL OURSELVES UP?
23:29 DO WE SLANDER O OTHER PEOPLE? DO WE PUT OTHER PEOPLE DOWN TO
23:33 BENEFIT OURSELVES? YOU SEE, THESE ARE THE THINGS
23:35 THAT -- THESE ARE THE CHARACTERISTICS OF DRAGON.
23:38 HE SPEAKS GREAT THINGS ABOUT HIMSELF.
23:40 HE LIFTS HIMSELF UP. AND THE BIBLE SAYS LET ANOTHER
23:44 MAN PRAISE YOU AND NOT YOUR OWN WORDS.
23:48 AND HE SLANDERS OTHER. YOU KNOW HOW IT IS WHEN YOU WANT
23:50 TO MAKE YOURSELF LOOK BETTER THAN SOMEONE ELSE, YOU CAN DO IT
23:56 SUBTLY, OR OPENLY. LOOK OUT FOR THEM, BECAUSE THEY
23:59 ARE... AND THEN IT GOES ON HERE.
24:01 HE OPENED HIS MOUTH AGAINST BLASPHEMY AGAINST GOD AND
24:06 TABERNACLE AND HIS WILL IN HEAVEN.
24:07 I THINK IS DONE THROUGH DOCTRINES PRIMARILY.
24:11 THERE ARE DOCTRINES TAUGHT FROM THE BIBLE THAT SLANDER GOD'S
24:18 CHARACTER. >> I AGREE 100%.
24:19 >> AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS IN THAT CONTEST, AS WELL AS
24:22 MAKING IT PERSONAL. AND IT WAS GIVEN UNTO HIM TO
24:26 MAKE WAR WITH THE SAINTS, AGAIN THE SAME PRINCIPLE AND POWERS
24:31 GIVEN UNTO HIM AMONG ALL KINDRED NATIONS AND ALL THAT DWELL IN
24:38 EARTH WHAT IS THAT DOING IN REVELATION 13?
24:42 YOU SEE, THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE GOSPEL.
24:44 AND THE BOOK OF REVELATION IS REPLETE WITH THESE BEAUTIFUL
24:48 OASIS OF THE GOSPEL. THESE ISLANDS OF GOSPEL TRUTHS.
24:51 YOU JUST CAN'T GO TOO FAR. WE HAVE CAN'T SWIM AN OCEAN
24:55 BEFORE WE COME TO THIS ISLAND, THIS OASIS.
24:57 WE HAVE CAN'T WALK THROUGH THIS DESERT LAND OF BEASTS AND
25:01 DRAGONS AND JUDGMENTS AND PLAGUES WITHOUT COMING THIS OWE
25:07 OASIS, THIS WATER OF LIFE AND YOU HAVE THIS LAMB SLAIN FROM
25:10 THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD FROM THE VERY BEGINNING OF TIME, GOD
25:14 ORCHESTRATED A PLAN TO RESCUE US IF WE SHOULD CHOOSE TO GO INTO
25:16 THE WRONG DIRECTION. >> RIGHT.
25:18 >> AND SO HERE IS THE MIND THAT HAS WISDOM.
25:22 OKAY? IF ANY MAN HAS AN EAR LET HIM
25:26 HEAR. HE WHO LEADS INTO CAPTIVITY
25:27 SHOULD GO INTO CAPTIVITY. HE WHO KILLS WITH THE SWORD MUST
25:31 BE KILLED WITH THE SWORD. HERE IS THE PATIENCE AND THE
25:34 FAYE FAITH OF THE SAINTS, RETALIATION, REVENGE.
25:39 IT'S SO NATURAL. YOU JUST DRIVE DOWN THAT FREEWAY
25:44 AND DON'T TELL ME THAT YOU ARE NOT INCLINED TO RETALIATION WHEN
25:48 THAT GUY PULLS OUT IN FRONT OF. >> YOU NOT ME.
25:50 >> YEAH. >> NO.
25:51 NO. NO.
25:51 [ LAUGHTER ] >> NO ROAD RAGE HERE.
25:54 I'M WANTING TO GET AS FAR AWAY FROM HIM AS I CAN.
25:56 >> GOOD FOR YOU! AND I'M TELLING YOU THIS IS PART
26:00 OF THE CYCLE OF A HUMAN NATURE. THIS IS WHAT WE STRUGGLE WITH ON
26:06 THAT RUBBER MEET THE ROAD LEVEL IN OUR LIVES.
26:10 RETALIATION. AND SO RIGHT HERE IN THE MIDDLE
26:11 OF THIS GREAT CONTROVERSY, GOD SAYS NO.
26:15 VENGEANCE IS MINE. IF YOUR ENEMY IS HUNGRY, WHAT DO
26:19 YOU DO? >> FEED.
26:20 >> IF HE'S THIRSTY, WHAT DO YOU DO?
26:22 >> GIVE HIM SOMETHING TO DRINK. >> REALLY?
26:24 ARE YOU SERIOUS? [ LAUGHTER ]
26:27 THIS IS THE FAITH AND THE PATIENCE OF SAINTS.
26:29 >> AND I HAVE TO SAY, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SET MYSELF UP JUST
26:32 BECAUSE I'M NOT ONE WHO SUFFERS FROM ROAD RAGE, WHERE MY
26:39 RETALIATORY TENDENCIES COME IN IS IF SOMEONE IS FUSSING AT ME,
26:44 I'M -- I'M NOT GOOD AT TAKING UP FOR MYSELF.
26:47 I WILL KIND OF SIT THERE BUT THEN I GO HOME AND I'M THINKING
26:51 OF ALL OF THESE THINGS I WISHED I HAD SAID.
26:54 >> MM-HMM. >> THAT IS A SPIRIT OF
26:56 RETALIATION. >> YES, IT IS.
26:57 >> AND SO IT'S NOT -- IT'S NOT -- NONE OF US ARE EXEMPT
27:03 FROM THAT. >> RIGHT.
27:04 AND LET ME SAY THIS, SOMETIMES RETALIATION IS NOT TOO MUCH WHAT
27:08 WHAT -- SO MUCH WHAT WE DO, IT'S WHAT WE NEGLECT TO DO.
27:11 I'M NOT PRAYING FOR THAT GUY. THAT'S THE PERSON I WILL BE
27:15 PRAYING FOR. I WILL BE PRAYING FOR MY WIFE
27:18 AND MY KIDS AND FAMILY BUT NOT THAT GUY.
27:20 I'M NOT PRAYING FOR TERRORISTS. I'M NOT PRAYING FOR A DEMOCRATIC
27:24 PRESIDENT. NOW YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING?
27:27 THESE ARE THE PRINCIPLES. THESE ARE THE CHARACTERISTICS.
27:30 WHO DID JESUS PRAY FOR? >> OH,.
27:33 >> ON THE CHRIST WHO DID HE PRAY FOR?
27:35 >> HE PRAYED FOR THOSE WHO WERE KILLING HIM, PERSECUTING HIM.
27:38 >> THESE ARE THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE LAMB.
27:40 >> YEAH. >> AND IF YOU THINK THAT OUR
27:43 TEST IS KNOWING WHAT DAY IS THE RIGHT DAY TO GO TO CHURCH AND
27:45 KNOWING WHAT DAY IS THE WRONG DAY OR KNOWING WHAT HAPPENS WHEN
27:48 YOU DIE A AND WHETHER YOU GO TO HEAVEN IMMEDIATELY OR NOT OR
28:00 KNOWING 2200 DAY PROPHECY. THOSE ARE DOCTRINES AND TRUTHS
28:03 THAT ARE FOUNDATION BUT WE NEED TO SETTLE INTO THE TRUTH BOTH
28:07 INTELLECTUALLY AND SPIRITUAL SO THAT WE CANNOT BE MOVED.
28:09 >> I THINK THAT'S INTERESTING, I'M JUST LOOKING AT -- YOU KNOW,
28:12 EXAMINING MYSELF AS WE ARE GOING THROUGH THIS, MAN, WOW!
28:16 >> MM-HMM. >> YOU KNOW, I'M PAYING MORE
28:18 ATTENTION TO HOW IT'S AFFECTED ME PERSONALLY, KIND OF GETTING
28:23 OFF OF THE, QUOTE, THE SYMBOLS AND I THINK THAT JESUS --
28:27 >> PRAISE GOD. THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO BE.
28:29 BECAUSE WE FEED NEED TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF BOOKS OF
28:34 REVELATION AND DANIEL, AND DEVELOP OUR HEARTS WITH
28:37 CHARACTER, TO REALIZE 9 REWARD WHICH IS TO BE THE PURE OF THE
28:41 HEART. >> WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE MANY
28:43 QUESTIONS RIGHT NOVEL. NOW.
28:45 WE WILL FINISH OUR STUDY BUT THERE IS SOMEONE WHO IS WRITING
28:51 IN WHO SAYS WHAT IS THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF JESUS CHRIST?
28:53 COULD YOU MENTION THAT? >> I WILL MENTION IT AGAIN.
28:55 SO IT'S ATHEOLOGICAL TERM AND SOMETIMES WE DON'T ALWAYS
28:58 UNDERSTAND IT BUST THE RIGHTEOUS N OF JESUS CHRIST IS HIS PERFECT
29:00 LIFE. HE LED A PERFECT LIGHT OF
29:02 OBEDIENCE. HE RIGHTEOUS -- RIGHTEOUSNESS
29:04 MEANS RIGHT DOING. HE DID RIGHT ALL THE TIME.
29:07 AND HIS PERFECT DEATH. HE TOOK THE SINS OF THE ENTIRE
29:11 WORLD UPON HIMSELF AND HE BORE THE WEIGHT OF ALL OF THOSE SINS
29:14 ON THE CROSS. HIS PERFECT LIFE, HIS PERFECT
29:17 DEATH, AND RESURRECTION FROM THAT DEATH IS HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS.
29:21 AND SO IT IS OUR TITLE AND OUR FITNESS FOR HEAVEN.
29:24 IT'S OUR JUSTIFICATION. IT'S OUR SANCTIFICATION.
29:27 IT'S OUR GLORIFICATION. AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF VERSES I
29:29 CAN GIVE YOU ON THAT. 1 CORINTHIANS 1:29, 30 AND 31.
29:34 HE'S RIGHTEOUSNESS. HE'S OUR GLORIFICATION.
29:40 HE'S OUR SANCTIFICATION. AND EPHESIANS 2.
29:46 WE ARE HIS WORKMANSHIP CREATED IN CHRIST JESUS ON TWO GOOD
29:50 WORKS WHICH GOD HAS ORDAINED THAT WE SHOULD WALK IN THEM.
29:57 >> AND THE POINT WE WALK HOME, WHEN YOU ACCEPT CHRIST AS YOUR
30:00 SAVIOR, YOU ARE JUSTIFIED BY HIS ACTS.
30:04 YOU ARE SANCTIFIED THEN. THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF CHRIST IS
30:08 CREDITED TO YOUR ACCOUNT AND IT IS BOTH, I BELIEVE, IMPARTED TO
30:13 YOU, OR IMPUTED TO YOU, JUST PUT INTO YOUR ACCOUNT AND IMPARTED
30:17 TO YOU BECAUSE THEN HE'S WORKING IN YOU TO HELP SATISFY.
30:21 >> ABSOLUTELY. I WANT TO CLARIFY THIS BECAUSE
30:24 PEOPLE GET CONFUSED ABOUT THIS. WE LIVE A SANCTIFIED LIFE BUT
30:29 OUR OBEDIENCE WILL NEVER REPLACE HIS OBEDIENCE.
30:32 WE WILL NEVER COME TO A PLACE WHERE WELL, I HAVE GOT TO YOU TO
30:35 THE PLACE WHERE YOU ARE ABLE TO BE SAVED NOW, AND YOU NO LONGER
30:40 NEED THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF JESUS CHRIST.
30:43 >> NEVER. >> THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF JESUS
30:44 CHRIST IS WHAT MOTIVATES US TO OBEY AND IT IS THE GIFT OF OUR
30:46 SALVATION, AND WHEN WE REALIZE THAT, IT MOTIVATES US TO WANT TO
30:50 LIVE FOR JESUS. AND WE DO THESE WORKS.
30:53 OBEDIWE ARE OBEDIENT TO HIM. AND JESUS IS SO BLESSED AND
30:59 THANKFUL THAT WE WANT TO OBEY HIM.
31:04 >> I THINK WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT WE ARE A WORK IN PROGRESS.
31:07 WE ARE ALWAYS A WORK IN PROGRESS.
31:09 >> AMEN. OKAY.
31:10 SO WE'LL CONTINUE ON. >> OKAY.
31:12 >> INTERPOSE WITH QUESTIONS WHENEVER YOU WANT TO, BUT -- SO
31:14 AS WE MOVE THROUGH THESE NEXT VERSES NOW, AND WE RECOGNIZE
31:18 THIS PRINCIPLE OF RETALIATION, I WANT YOU TO LOOK HERE IN VERSES
31:21 11 AND ONWARD, HERE'S WHERE IT GETS REALLY INTENSE.
31:26 OKAY? AND I BEHOLD ANOTHER BEAST
31:27 COMING UP OUT OF THE EARTH. THAT'S THE PLACE WHERE THE WOMAN
31:29 WAS GIVEN TO ESCAPE THE PERSECUTION, THE GLORIOUS LAND
31:33 OF ECONOMIC PROSPERITY AND HAD TWO HORNS LIKE A LAMB.
31:36 THIS COUNTRY WAS BORN ON THE PRINCIPLES OF RELIGIOUS LIBERTY
31:40 AND CIVIL LIBERTY BUT SPOKE LIKE A DRAGON.
31:43 A CHANGE. TAKE PLACE IN THIS COUNTRY.
31:45 A CHANGE WILL TAKE PLACE. WE ARE GOING TO GO CONTRARY TO
31:48 THE CONSTITUTION, CONTRARY TO THE PRINCIPLES OF RELIGIOUS
31:51 FREEDOM AND CIVIL FREEDOM. AND HE EXERCISED ALL THE POWER
31:56 OF THE FIRST BEAST EARTHLY POWER FOR HIM AND DWELL TO WORSHIP THE
32:04 FIRST BEAST. >> CONTROLLING.
32:06 >> CONTROLLING. HE'S GOING TO FORCE THEM.
32:08 HE'S GOING TO FORCE THEM. >> MM-HMM.
32:10 >> DID YOU EVER FORCE NI ANYONE TO DO SOMETHING?
32:14 >> YOU CERTAINLY CAN'T FORCE -- MANY PARENTS TRY TO FORCE THEIR
32:17 CHILDREN AND THAT'S WHEN YOU SEE ALL THE REBELLIONS.
32:20 >> HOW ABOUT ADULTS. HAVE YOU EVER FORCED AN ADULT TO
32:22 DO SOMETHING FOR YOU? >> I DON'T THINK SO.
32:26 >> NOW DON'T THINK ABOUT THIS IN THE LIGHT OF PHYSICAL FORCE.
32:31 >> YEAH. >> MANIPULATE?
32:32 MANIPULATION. THAT'S KEY WORD.
32:34 >> I DON'T THINK I HAVE DONE THAT EITHER.
32:38 >> MANIPULATION. I DO THAT ON A REGULAR BASIS SO
32:41 SUBTLY IN THE WAY THAT I TREAT MY WIFE OR NEGLECT TO TREAT HER
32:44 OR THE LOOKS I G HER GIVE HER. >> SHE'S WATCHING, YOU ARE IN
32:51 TROUBLE. >> MANIPULATION IS A BIG WORD IN
32:53 OUR FAMILY AND WE TALK ABOUT IT. WE WANT TO BE RID OF THESE
32:57 PRINCIPLES. WE WANT TO OPENLY TALK ABOUT
33:00 THIS OR FEEL -- I FEEL LIKE I'M BEING MANIPULATED RIGHT NOW.
33:05 REALLY WHY? SOMETIMES IT'S SO SUBTLE.
33:07 REMEMBER WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER. SOME PEOPLE LOOK SO GOOD TO
33:10 THEMSELVES THEY HAVE NO IDEA THAT THIS IS -- THAT THEY ARE
33:11 ACTUALLY DOING THIS. THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE
33:13 SURPRISED IN MATTHEW 7:21, LORD, LORD, LOOK AT US.
33:17 WAIT A MINUTE, WHAT DO YOU MEAN? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT?
33:20 >> I REMEMBER THAT? >> AND WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT
33:22 THESE PRINCIPLES OF BEAST, UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE WORLD IS
33:26 FOLLOWING THIS POWER. THE WHOLE WORLD IS GOING ALONG
33:29 WITH THIS. WHY?
33:30 BECAUSE THEY HAVE DEVELOPED THE SAME PRINCIPLES.
33:33 >> MM-HMM. >> THEY HAVE DEVELOPED THE SAME
33:35 PRINCIPLES. SO THE REASON WHY PEOPLE ARE
33:37 GOING TO ESCAPE AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT IN REVELATION
33:40 14, THEY FOLLOW THE LAMB, THE REASON WHY THEY ESCAPE THE BEAST
33:44 AND THE ENFORCEMENT OF HIS POWER IS BECAUSE IT'S CONTRARY TO THE
33:49 CHARACTER THAT THEY HAVE BEEN DEVELOPING.
33:50 THEY HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING JESUS AND THEY CAN'T GO ALONG WITH
33:52 THAT BECAUSE JESUS HAS LED THEM IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION AND IT
33:55 HAS LED THEM TO DEVELOP PRINCIPLES THAT ARE NOT IN
33:59 HARMONY WITH THOSE PRINCIPLES. YOU CAN'T BUY YOURSELF, DON'T
34:03 CARE. DON'T CARE.
34:03 THEY ARE NOT DECEIVED ABOUT THIS THIS.
34:06 THEY SEE IT PAINLY AND THEY LOOK AND THEY HAVE VISION AND THEY
34:09 HAVE DISCERNMENT TO SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING BEHIND THE SCENES.
34:12 AND SO IT SAYS HERE, VERSE 13, HE DOES GREAT WONDERS SO THAT HE
34:16 MAKES FIRE COME DOWN FROM HEAVEN IN THE SIDE -- IN THE EARTH IN
34:20 THE SIGHT OF MAN AND DECEIVES. THE FIRE HAS GOT TO BE CONNECTED
34:23 WITH DECEPTION. I BELIEVE THIS FIRE IS A SYMBOL
34:27 AGAIN IN THE NEW TESTAMENT, THE FIRE REPRESENTS THE HOLY SPIRIT.
34:30 AND SO YOU'VE GOT THIS HOLY SPIRIT POWER THAT'S CAUSING
34:33 PEOPLE TO BE DECEIVED. >> WELL, IT'S NOT THE HOLY
34:36 SPIRIT POWER, BUT WE HAVE GOT A FALSE --
34:42 >> SPIRIT. >> A FALSE SPIRIT.
34:43 >> I CAN PROVE THAT. 2 CORINTHIANS 11:2, THEY COME
34:48 PREACHING ANOTHER JESUS, ANOTHER GOSPEL AND ANOTHER SPIRIT.
34:53 SO WHAT YOU HAVE HERE IS DECEPTION THAT'S TAKING PLACE
34:56 THROUGH THE SPIRIT MANIFESTATION THAT IS NOT THE TRUE HOLY SPIRIT
34:59 BUT IT SEEMS LIKE A RELIGIOUS SPIRIT.
35:02 IT STILL SEEMS LIKE A JESUS SPIRIT.
35:04 IT FEELS LIKE IT'S A GOSPEL SPIRIT.
35:06 BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT STANDING ON THE WORD OF GOD.
35:09 >> COUNTERFEIT. >> BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALLOWED THE
35:10 PRINCIPLES OF DRAGON, RATHER THAN THE PRINCIPLES OF JESUS,
35:12 THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO DISCERN AND IT GOES ON AND IT SAYS DECEIVE
35:16 THEM, AND DWELL IN THE EARTH BY MEANS OF THOSE MIRACLES WHICH
35:19 THEY HAVE POWER AND THEREFORE THAT'S WHY I BELIEVE THE POWER
35:22 IS THE FAKE HOLY SPIRIT BECAUSE THERE'S MIRACLES WHICH HE HAD
35:25 POWER TO DO IN THE SIGHT OF THE BEAST THAT THEY SHOULD MAKE AN
35:29 IMAGE TO THE BEAST WHICH THEY DID A WOUND TO THE SWORD AND
35:33 THAT THE IMAGE OF THE BEAST SHOULD BOTH SPEAK AND CAUSE AS
35:36 MANY WOULD NOT WORSHIP THE IMAGE OF THE BEAST, SHOULD BE WHAT?
35:40 KILLED. THERE'S FORCE AGAIN.
35:42 AND HE CALLS ALL TO RECEIVE A MARK IN RIGHT HAND OR THE
35:50 FOREHEAD. HE THAT HAVE THE MARK OR THE
35:51 NAME OF THE BEAST OR THE NUMBER OF HIS NAME.
35:53 CONTROL. WE ARE GOING TO FORCE.
35:54 WE ARE GOING TO CONTROL. WE ARE GOING TO KILL.
35:56 WE ARE GOING TO COERCE. WE ARE GOING TO MANIPULATE AND
36:01 DECEIVE. THESE ARE ALL THE
36:02 CHARACTERISTICS OF THE BEAST. ARE THEY OUR CHARACTERISTICS?
36:04 >> YES. >> DO WE CONTROL AND MANIPULATE.
36:09 >> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE HEAD, THE MARK IN THE HEAD OR THE HAND
36:12 BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE THINK THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A
36:14 COMPUTER CHIP OR SOMETHING THAT IS A LITERAL MARK WHEREAS THE
36:18 BIBLE SYMBOLICALLY, WHAT THE -- WHAT THE MARK IN THE FOREHEAD
36:22 SIGNIFIES IS THE MIND AND WHAT THE MARK IN THE HAND IS
36:25 SIGNIFIES IS THE ACTIONS. SO IT'S YOUR THOUGHT AND YOUR
36:27 ACTIONS. >> WHICH I THINK IS REALLY
36:29 SIGNIFICANT, BECAUSE WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE SEAL OF GOD, YOU
36:31 REALIZE THE BIBLE TELLS US YOU CAN ONLY RECEIVE THE SEAL OF GOD
36:35 IN THE FOREHEAD. YOU CAN'T RECEIVE THE SEAL OF
36:37 GOD IN THE HAND. >> RIGHT.
36:39 RIGHT. >> THE SEAL OF GOD IN THE
36:40 FOREHEAD REPRESENTS WHAT YOU BELIEVE, AND YOU CAN ONLY BE
36:43 SAVED IF YOU BELIEVE WITH ALL OF YOUR HEART, MIND AND SOUL THAT
36:51 JESUS CHRIST IS MESSIAH. THE WHOLE WORLD WILL BE DECEIVED
36:54 WHO DO NOT BELIEVE AND RECEIVE THE SEAL OF GOD BUT MANY OF THEM
36:57 ARE NOT GOING TO BE DECEIVED INTO THINKING THAT THE MARK OF
37:02 THE BEAST IS THE WAY WE NEED TO WORSHIP GOD.
37:04 THEY ARE SIMPLY GOING TO GO ALONG WITH IT.
37:07 >> THAT'S THEIR ACTIONS. THE HAND.
37:09 >> I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS IN THE COUNTRY OF PAKISTAN, I WAS DOING
37:13 A SERIES OF REVELATION STUDIES THERE FOR ABOUT 300 PASTORS FROM
37:17 EVERY DENOMINATION. AND I WAS MOVING THROUGH THE
37:19 BOOK OF DANIEL AND THE BOOK OF REVELATION AND I REMEMBER WE GOT
37:22 TO THE PLACE WHERE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE MARK OF THE
37:25 BEAST IN THE HAND OR IN THE FOREHEAD AND I HAD ALREADY
37:29 BROUGHT UP THE CHANGE OF THE SABBATH IN DANIEL 7 FROM
37:33 SATURDAY TO SUNDAY. >> MM-HMM.
37:35 >> AND THEY WERE GETTING A LITTLE BY NERVOUS AND TENSE.
37:37 THEY HAVE DIDN'T NECESSARILY APPRECIATE 9 IDEA OF SATURDAY
37:42 BEING THE SABBATH BECAUSE THEY WERE ALL SUNDAY KEEPING PASTORS.
37:45 ALL OF THEM WERE. SO THEY ASKED ME TO MENTION
37:50 SUNDAY AGAIN. I WAS IN PAKISTAN TWO TIMES
37:53 BEFORE THIS. I WAS EAGER TO UNDERSTAND HOW
37:55 THE COUNTRY OPERATED. IT WAS AN ISLAMIC STATE.
37:57 IT IS AN ISLAMIC STATE. AND I WAS WAKING UP IN THE
38:00 MORNING TO THE NATIONAL... AND THE MORNING PRAYERS, THE
38:06 AFTERNOON PRAYERS, FIVE TIMES A GAY.
38:08 THE PRAYERS WOULD COME OUT AND AS I REMEMBER, ACT WAKENED BY
38:13 THESE PRAYERS, I WOULD LOOK OUT THE WINDOW AND SEE IF PEOPLE
38:17 WERE OUT THERE WITH THE PRAYER MATS.
38:18 I ASKED ABOUT IT, THEY SAID ONLY THE VERY RELIGIOUS, ONLY THE
38:22 VERY DEVOUT GO TO THE MOSQUE. I REMEMBER WHEN THE DAY OF
38:25 PRAYER CAME, I WAS EAGER TO SEE HOW THEY WOULD OBSERVE THAT.
38:28 I THOUGHT IN THIS COUNTRY, THEY PROBABLY CLOSE BUSINESS ON
38:31 FRIDAYS. BUT ON THAT FRIDAY, AND EVERY
38:33 FRIDAY THAT I WAS THERE, BUSINESSES WERE OPEN.
38:35 I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY STRANGE. SO I CANA I ASKED ABOUT IT, ONLY THE
38:42 DEVOUT TO THE MOSQUE FOR PRAYER ON FRIDAY.
38:47 AND ON SUNDAY MORNING, I WAS IN KARACHI.
38:50 I BOOKED OUT AND THIS WAS NOBODY.
38:52 >> HMM. >> AND THAT DAY THERE WERE NO
38:54 BUSINESSES OPENED. THERE WAS TO TRAFFIC.
38:56 THERE WERE NO PEOPLE ANYWHERE ON SUNDAY.
38:58 >> HOW FASCINATING! >> IN A COUNTRY THAT IS AN
39:01 ISLAMIC STATE. NOW THIS WAS IN 1997, '98, AND
39:04 '99 AND I ASKED SOMEONE ABOUT IT.
39:05 I SAID I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON.
39:07 THIS IS AN ISLAMIC STATE. THIS IS A VERY RECENT
39:11 OCCURRENCE. PAKISTAN CHANGED THE DAY THAT
39:13 ALL BUSINESSES ARE CLOSED FROM FRIDAY TO SUNDAY BECAUSE THEY
39:17 WERE FALLING TOO FAR BEHIND ON THE ECONOMIC WORLDWIDE LEVEL
39:22 WITH THE REST OF THE COUNTRIES WHO WERE OPEN FOR BUSINESS ON
39:25 FRIDAYS AND CLOSED ON SUNDAYS. AND I SAID, HOW DID THE -- YOU
39:30 KNOW, THE FUNDAMENTALISTS MUSE IMS FEEL ABOUT THIS.
39:35 OH, THEY -- MUSE MUSLIMS FEEL ABOUT THIS?
39:40 THEY DIDN'T LIKE IT. THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT FOR
39:42 ECONOMIC REASONS. FAST FORWARD TO THE MEETING AND
39:44 THEY ARE TELLING ME NOT TO TALK ABOUT SUNDAY AND I'M TALKING
39:46 ABOUT THE MARK OF THE BEAST AND I BRING UP THE QUESTION AND THE
39:50 QUESQUESTION I BRING UP, IF THE WHOLE WORLD WOULD CHOOSE A DAY
39:56 THAT THEY WOULD SET ASIDE THAT THERE WOULD BE NO BUYING OR
39:59 SELLING, WHAT DAY WOULD THEY CHOOSE?
40:01 AND BEFORE THEY COULD ANSWER. I SAID WHAT DAY AS THE ISLAMIC
40:06 REPUBLIC OF PAKISTAN HAS CHOSEN TO CLOSE ALL BUSINESSES AND THE
40:10 PASTORS LOOKED AT EACH OTHER WITH BIG EYES AND THEY ALL SAID
40:15 IN UNISON, SUNDAY. I SAID, I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT.
40:18 I THINK YOU HAVE IDENTIFIED THIS PROPHECY AND WHAT IT'S
40:23 PREDICTING PERFECTLY. >> THE MARK AND THE HAND.
40:25 >> THE MARK AND THE HAND. MUSLIMS IN PAKISTAN, THEY DON'T
40:30 BELIEVE THAT SUNDAY IS A SACRED DAY OR A HOLY DAY BUT THEY GO
40:35 AHEAD AND WITHDRAW FROM BUSINESS.
40:37 THEY WITHHOLD THEIR HANDS FROM DOING THE LABOR ON THAT DAY
40:40 BECAUSE OF THE ECONOMIC PRESSURE THAT'S COMING UPON THEM FROM THE
40:42 REST OF THE WORLD. NOW, WHAT GOD IS DOING --
40:44 >> AND PLEASE CLARIFY FOR SOMEONE WHO MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR
40:47 WITH YOU OR THE STATION OR FOR WASN'T WITH US FOR THE FIRST
40:53 HOUR. SUNDAY IS -- HAS BEEN A -- IS A
40:57 SUBSTITUTED DAY. THE BIBLE DOES NOT MAKE SUNDAY
41:01 SACRED IN ANY SCRIPTURE. >> ABSOLUTELY.
41:03 YOU JUST CLARIFIED THAT. SO THE BIBLE TEACHES THE SEVENTH
41:08 DAY SABBATH IS SATURDAY AND I STRUGGLED WITH THIS, BECAUSE I
41:10 WAS RAISED IN A CHRISTIAN HOME. I WENT TO CHURCH EVERY SUNDAY.
41:13 I WAS AN ALTAR BOY AND WHEN MY SISTER TOLD ME THAT SHE GOES TO
41:17 CHURCH ON SATURDAY, I THOUGHT SHE WAS LOONY.
41:19 AND SO I SAID, I'M GOING TO PROVE HER WRONG AND I WENT AND
41:21 GOT, YOU KNOW, A BIBLE AND I -- >> YOU AND I HAVE BEEN DOWN THE
41:26 SAME ROAD! [ LAUGHTER ]
41:27 AND SO THIS WAS A REAL REVELATION IN MY MIND.
41:31 I REMEMBER SHARING IT WITH MY FAMILY AND MY AUNT SAID NO, NO,
41:34 NO THERE'S -- JUST, YOU KNOW -- I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE
41:37 TALKING ABOUT. SUNDAY IS THE SABBATH AND I WENT
41:39 AND GOT HER A CALENDAR. NOW THE CALENDARS ARE CHANGING
41:43 NOW. THE CALENDAR , THE SUNDAY IS THE
41:49 SEVENTH. LOOK UP SUNDAY, FIRST DAY OF THE
41:51 WEEK. AND SATURDAY IS THE SEVENTH DAY
41:52 OF THE WEEK. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW
41:54 THIS. GOD IS GIVING US AN
41:56 UNDERSTANDING OF THIS. HE'S NOT SEEKING TO CONDEMN OR
42:01 CRITICIZE ANYONE. HE'S GIVING US THE FACTS.
42:03 HERE ARE THE FACTS. THE WHOLE WORLD WILL COME
42:05 TOGETHER AND SET ASIDE A DAY OF RELIGIOUS WORSHIP AND ECONOMIC
42:09 BOYCOTT IS GOING TO GO AGAINST THOSE AND ECONOMIC SANCTIONS
42:12 WILL GO AGAINST THOSE. IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING.
42:17 IT'S HAPPENED IN PAKISTAN AND A LOT OF IS ISLAMIC COUNTRIES.
42:23 GO ON THE INTERNET AND FIND THE BUSINESS HOURS.
42:26 THE ONLY ONE THAT I FOUND THAT DID NOT CLOSE ON SUNDAY WAS
42:29 SAUDI ARABIA, INDEPENDENTLY WEALTHY AND ABLE TO DO THAT.
42:31 BUT WE ARE ALREADY SEEING THE IMPACT OF THIS PROPHECY TAKING
42:35 PLACE. IT IS THE MARK OF THE POWER,
42:38 THIS EARTHLY RELIGIOUS POWER THAT'S CHANGED THE DAY FROM
42:41 SATURDAY, FROM THE SEVENTH DAY SABBATH TO SUNDAY.
42:44 THESE ARE THE CHARACTERISTICS. WE PRETTY MUCH COVERED MOST OF
42:47 THEM. THE POINT IS THIS IT DOESN'T
42:49 MATTER IF YOU ARE SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST OR A CATHOLIC OR A
42:52 BAPTIST OR A MUSLIM OR AN ATHEIST.
42:55 IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE AND WHERE YOU ARE, THESE ARE THE
42:57 CHARACTERISTICS THAT WILL DETERMINE OUR DESTINY FOR THE
43:02 FUTURE. ARE WE DEVELOPING THE
43:03 CHARACTERISTICS OF DRAGON OR THE CHARACTERISTICS OF LAMB IN THE
43:06 CHARACTERISTICS OF LAMB ARE FURTHER TALKED ABOUT IN
43:09 REVELATION 14. WE HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO LOOK AT
43:10 ALL OF THEM HERE BUT JUST QUICKLY, THEY FOLLOW THE LAMB
43:12 WHEREVER HE GOES. THEY FOLLOW THE LAMB.
43:15 THEY ARE LAMB-LIKE. THEY DON'T HAVE ANY GOW IN THEIR
43:21 MOUTHS. THEY ARE NOT SLANDERING PEOPLE
43:23 AND NOT PUTTING PEOPLE DOWN. AND THEIR FIRST FRUITS IN JAMES
43:27 1:18, FIRST FRUITS MEAN TO BE BORN AGAIN, BORN AGAIN OF THE
43:30 WORD OF GOD AND THEY GIVE THE THREE ANGELS MESSAGES.
43:35 AND THAT SUMMARIZES THEM AS HAVING THE FAITH OF JESUS AND
43:38 HAVING THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD. THESE ARE THE PRINCIPLES.
43:40 THESE ARE THE CHARACTERISTICS THAT GOD WANTS US TO SEE
43:46 INCONTRAST WITH EACH OTHER AND BY HIS GRACE HE WANTS US TO
43:48 DEVELOP THESE. >> AND THE ONLY WAY WE CAN
43:51 DEVELOP THOSE IS BY DYING TO SELF AND THE ONLY WAY WE CAN DIE
43:54 TO SELF IS BY THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.
43:56 >> YES. >> I MEAN, YOU KNOW, ROMANS 8:13
43:58 SAYS THAT IF WE LIVE FOR THE FLESH, WE WILL DIE BUT IF WE
44:03 LIVE BY THE SPIRIT -- IF BY THE SPIRIT WE PUT TO DEATH THE
44:08 MISDEEDS OF OUR FLESH, WE LIVE. >> AND WE HAVE TO BE WILLING TO
44:11 RECOGNIZE AND ADMIT THAT WE ARE SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST BY GRACE.
44:14 >> ABSOLUTELY! >> NO EXCUSES.
44:15 WE HAVE TO ALLOW THE HOLY SPIRIT TO CONVICT US OF THE
44:21 WRETCHEDNESS OF OUR OWN HEARTS. PAUL SAID HE WAS THE CHIEF OF
44:24 SINNERS. HE KNEW HOW DESPERATE HIS HEART
44:26 WAS AND HOW WICKED HIS HEART WAS.
44:28 ENVIRHE KNEW HOW HOW MUCH HE DIED. >> IT SEEMS LIKE WHEN YOU ARE
44:37 TALKING ABOUT CHARACTERISTICS, YOU ARE ON A LEVEL PLAYING
44:40 FIELD. EVERYBODY'S SCORECARD IS
44:41 DIFFERENT. WE ARE ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD
44:43 BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING AT CHARACTERISTICS AS WE TURN IT
44:45 OVER TO THE LORD, THEN IS THROUGH THE WORD THAT YOU ARE
44:50 CONVICTED. >> J.D., THAT'S A GREAT WAY TO
44:53 SUMMARIZE EVERYTHING WE TALKED ABOUT.
44:55 CHARACTERISTICS PUT US ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD.
44:57 >> YEAH. >> THE GROUND IS LEVEL AT THE
44:58 FOOT OF THE CROSS. >> YEAH.
45:00 >> AMEN. >> PRAISE GOD.
45:01 >> DOKAY. LET ME ASK YOU A FEW OF THESE
45:05 QUESTIONS. WE HAVE JUST ABOUT TEN MINUTES
45:07 LEFT HERE TO DO THIS. THIS IS FROM CHARLES IN
45:09 PENNSYLVANIA. THEY ARE CALLING FROM
45:10 PHILADELPHIA, ACTUALLY. HE SAID IF YOU EQUATE THE EARTH
45:13 IN REVELATION 12:16 TO THE UNITED STATES, ARE YOU SAYING
45:17 THAT DURING THE 1260 DAYS YEARS OF PERSECUTION GOD'S PEOPLE WERE
45:25 EUROPEANS? >> NO.
45:26 WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT DURING THE PERIOD OF THE 1260 YEARS,
45:29 DURING THAT TIME, GOD'S PEOPLE FLED TO DESOLATED PLACES IN
45:34 EUROPE AND GOD'S PEOPLE ALSO FLED TO THE UNITED STATES OF
45:37 AMERICA. NOT FOR THE WHOLE TIME.
45:40 EVEN -- NOT FOR THE WHOLE TIME DID THEY FLEE TO PLACES IN
45:44 EUROPE. IT WAS DURING THAT TIME, AT
45:45 DIFFERENT POINTS IN THIS TIME THEY FLED TO THESE DIFFERENT
45:48 PLACES. SO BEFORE 1798, BEFORE THAT
45:50 PERIOD WAS OVER, GOD'S CHURCH WAS TAKEN TO AMERICA.
45:54 >> AND THE REASON YOU KEEP SAYING DESOLATE PLACE IS BECAUSE
45:59 IN REVELATION -- A C SIGNIFIES A MULTITUDE OF PEOPLES.
46:05 >> MULTITUDE AND TONGUES BUT THE EARTH WOULD SIGNIFY A LESS
46:10 POPULATED AREA. >> THIS IS FROM AARONSON IN
46:15 HYATTSVILLE, MARYLAND -- >> LET ME FINISH WITH THAT
46:17 QUESTION. AND WHAT WAS THE GUY'S NAME?
46:20 >> THAT WAS CHARLES IN PHILADELPHIA.
46:22 >> SO CHARLES, AND THAT'S WHY I BELIEVE IN REVELATION CHAPTER 12
46:27 THE WOMAN IS IDENTIFIED AS FLEEING TWICE DURING THE 1260
46:31 YEAR PERIOD. IN THE VERSE 6 SHE FLEES TO THE
46:35 WILLERNESS, I BELIEVE THAT'S EUROPE AND IN 13, 14, 15, SHE
46:39 FLEES TO ANOTHER PLACE BUT IN THAT FLEEING SHE'S GIVEN TWO
46:42 WINGS OF AN EAGLE TO COME INTO HER PLACE AND THEN THE EARTH
46:46 MENTIONS THAT SWALLOWS UP THE FLOOD OF PERSECUTION.
46:53 >> 1260 YEARS IS A LONG TIME. >> YES.
46:55 >> IT'S DURING THAT TIME THAT SHE KN FLEES.
47:00 >> 70 YEARS, THAT'S A LONG TIME BACK THEN.
47:03 THAT'S A LOT OF GENERATIONS. >> OKAY.
47:05 WHEN YOU SAY 70 YEARS BACK THEN, THAT WAS 70 YEARS FOR A
47:09 GENERATION. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
47:10 >> OKAY. HARRISON STEVEN SAYS WHEN WE
47:19 CRITICIZE EACH OTHER, IS THAT THE WORK OF THE DEVIL.
47:21 >> IT IS THE WORK OF THE DEVIL. IT IS THE WORK OF THE DEVIL.
47:24 IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO NATURALLY BECAUSE ADAM, FROM THE
47:27 FALL, CRITICIZED EVE, WHO TURNED AROUND AND CRITICIZED THE
47:30 SERPENT AND BOTH OF THEM IN A SENSE WERE CRITICIZING GOD AND
47:33 POINTING A FINGER. IT WAS THE WOMAN.
47:35 IT WAS THE CER SERPENT. GOD, WHY DID YOU MAKE A SERPENT?
47:44 THAT I THINK THAT'S THE LAST FRONTIER FOR ALL OF US.
47:46 ALL OF US TEND TO BE NATURALLY CRITICAL OF SOMETHING, EVEN OF
47:50 OURSELVES. EVEN OF OURSELVES.
47:52 >> YEP. YEP.
47:52 >> AND SO GOD WANTS TO RID THAT FROM US COMPLETELY.
47:56 HE WANTS TO FILL US WITH HIS FAITH, THE WAY HE LOOKS AT US:
47:59 IN FACT, HEBREWS CHAPTER 11. THINK ABOUT IT THIS WAY.
48:03 IT'S FAITH CHAPTER. YOU READ ABOUT MOSES.
48:06 YOU READ ABOUT ABRAHAM AND ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT FAITHFUL, AND
48:12 EVEN SAMPSON IS THERE, AMAZINGLY ENOUGH.
48:14 NOT ONE CRITICAL WORD IN HEBREWS 11.
48:17 WHEN GOD SUMMARIZES HIS PEOPLE FROM THE OLD TESTAMENT WHO MADE
48:20 LOTS OF MISTAKE, ABRAHAM LIED AND SAID SARAH WAS HIS SISTER
48:24 AND MOSES KILLED AN EGYPTIAN. NONE OF THAT IS IN THE RECORD.
48:29 HEBREWS 11 IS HOW GOD LOOKS AT US WHEN WE PUT FAITH IN JESUS
48:33 AND HEBREWS 11 IS ALSO AN OUTLINE OF THE INVESTIGATIVE
48:36 JUDGMENT. THAT'S WHAT WE WILL LOOK ABOUT
48:37 IN THE INVESTIGATOR JUDGMENT. WE WILL LOOK AT ALL THE GOOD
48:43 STUFF AND THE BAD STUFF. >> PRAISE THE LORD.
48:45 IT REMINDS ME WHEN THE LORD IS SPEAKING ABOUT DAVID AND HE'S
48:49 TALKING TO KING JERABO AND YOU HAVE NOT BEEN LIKE MY SERVANT
48:55 DAVID WHO FOLLOWED ME WITH ALL OF HIS HEART AND KEPT ALL OF MY
48:59 COMMANDMENTS. AND YOU'RE THINKING, REALLY?
49:01 THAT SHOWS YOU WHEN GOD FORGIVES, HE FORGETS.
49:04 SO THAT'S POWERFUL! >> AMEN.
49:06 >> ALL RIGHT. THIS IS GLENNA IN MICHIGAN, AND
49:08 SHE SAYS, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE IN THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS CHRIST
49:13 AND THE FAITH OF JESUS, REVELATION 12:17 AND REVELATION
49:18 14 RESPECTIVELY. >> THE FAITH OF JESUS CHRIST IS
49:21 IDENTIFIED IN THE BIBLE AS HIS FAITH IN US.
49:25 HIS FAITH IN HUMANITY. JESUS CHRIST ON THE CROSS DIED
49:31 IN FAITH, BELIEVING THAT THIS DEATH WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON
49:35 OUR HEARTS. WHEN WE HAVE THE FAITH OF JESUS,
49:36 WE HAVE THAT SAME OUTLOOK TOWARDS HUMANITY THAT JESUS HAD.
49:41 THE FAITH OF JESUS IS WHAT CAUSES US TO HAVE HOPE FOR
49:44 OTHERS AND FOR OURSELVES. THE FAITH OF JESUS IS A POWER
49:49 AND AN INFLUENCE THAT IS THE VERY ESSENCE OF THE GOSPEL.
49:52 SO WHEN IT SAYS THAT GOD'S PEOPLE IN REVELATION 12:14 AND
49:55 REALLY IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE FINAL VERSE, YOU KNOW, THAT
50:00 ENCAPSULATES. WHEN IT SAYS THAT THEY HAVE THE
50:01 FAITH OF JESUS AND THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD, IT'S LIKE A
50:05 DICHOTOMY, A TENSION BETWEEN THE TWO COMMANDMENT KEEPERS.
50:07 THOSE WHO KEPT THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD, OLD TESTAMENT, GOD'S
50:11 PEOPLE KEPT THE COMMANDMENTS, BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE FAITH
50:13 OF JESUS. AND WHEN JESUS CAME, THEY
50:16 REJECTED HIM, THE MAJORITY OF THE JEWISH NATION CRUCIFIED AND
50:20 REJECTED HIM. IN THE NEW TESTAMENT, A LOT OF
50:22 CHRISTIANS FROM THE FAITH OF JESUS, RIGHT, BUT THEY DON'T
50:25 NECESSARILY KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD.
50:26 NOT ALL TEN OF THEM. >> MM-HMM.
50:28 >> SO WHAT HAVE YOU IN REVELATION 12, YOU HAVE A PEOPLE
50:30 WHO KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD, THEY KEEP THE LAW OF GOD
50:33 BUT THEY ALSO KEEP THE FAITH OF JESUS.
50:35 THEIR WHOLE DEPENDENCY IS ON THE FAITH OF JESUS, ON HIS FAITH IN
50:38 THEM AND HIS GIFT TO THEM FOR SALVATION.
50:40 THAT'S THE GOSPEL. BUT THEY ALSO EVEN THOUGH THEY
50:43 ARE THEIR COMPLETE RELIANCE IS ON THEM, THEY KEEP THEIR
50:51 COMMANDMENTS. THEY KEEP THE TENSION.
50:53 IT'S A TENSION. NOW THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS IS
50:55 IDENTIFIED IN REVELATION 19:10 A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN THE
50:59 FAITH OF JESUS. THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS IS
51:02 IDENTIFIED AS THE SPIRIT OF PRO EPROPHECY.
51:05 THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY, WE RECOGNIZE AS A GIFT THAT GOD
51:08 GIVES TO HIS CHURCH IN 1 CORINTHIANS 12:14.
51:15 INSIGHTS WE SEE INTO THE BIBLE AND THE WORD OF GOD THAT ARE
51:18 CLEARLY MANIFEST IN WHAT WE CALL THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY, WHICH WE
51:22 UNDERSTAND AS ADVENTISTS TO BE PARTLY THE WRITINGS OF ALLEN G.
51:26 WHITE. HE WAS A GIFTED PROPHET THAT GOD
51:31 GAVE TO HIS CHURCH. ALLEN WHITE IS RECOGNIZED AS ONE
51:34 OF THE TOP 100 AMERICANS THAT HAS IMPACTED THE HISTORY OF
51:38 AMERICA. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW OF
51:40 THAT. >> YES.
51:41 >> AND HER HEALTH, INSIGHTS HAVE BEEN LAUDED BY MANY DIFFERENT
51:46 MEDICAL INSTITUTIONS AND INDIVIDUALS.
51:48 SO GOD GAVE US THIS GIFT TO SHARE WITH THE WORLD, NOT TO BE
51:52 ASHAMED OF OR SCARED, BUT TO HELP US HAVE INSIGHTS FOOT
51:58 SIGHTS INTO THEBIBLE AND THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH. >> AND WHAT I APPRECIATE SO MUCH
52:01 ABOUT HER, SHE WAS SAYING, I'M A LESSER LIGHT.
52:04 >> YES. >> I'M JUST POINTING -- YOU
52:06 KNOW, AND SHE EVEN SAID, IF YOU WOULD REALLY STUDY YOUR BIBLES,
52:10 YOU WOULDN'T NEED MY WRITINGS BUT I LIKE THE FACT THAT SHE WAS
52:13 SO HUMBLE AND NEVER TRIED TO PUT HERSELF --
52:19 >> ON THE SAME LEVEL AS THE BIBLE.
52:21 >> ON THE SAME LEVEL AS THE BIBLE.
52:22 >> THE BIBLE IS TO BE OUR FOUNDATION.
52:24 >> OUR SUPREME. >> CAN I MENTION THE FREE OFFER?
52:26 I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION THE FREE OFFER.
52:29 >> QUICKLY. WE HAVE A QUESTION.
52:31 >> THIS IS A DVD THAT PASTOR JAMES DID ON THE BEAST AND THE
52:34 DRAGON, AND YOU CAN GET THIS FREE DVD BY CALLING
52:43 618-627-4651. AND,O BEING FREE O FREEOFFER@3ABN.TV.
52:56 >> THIS IS RICHARD FROM ZIMBABWE AND RICHARD, WE ARE GLAD THAT
52:59 YOU ARE WATCHING TONIGHT. AND HE SAYS, INTERESTING STUDY,
53:03 PASTOR JAMES. SO WHAT DOES THE COMING OF THE
53:06 POPE THERE MEAN? >> WELL, I BELIEVE THAT GOD HAS
53:11 OUTLINED AND JAMES WHITE BELIEVED THIS ALSO THAT THE LAST
53:14 SIX VERSES OF DANIEL 11 APPLY PARALLEL OR PARALLEL TO
53:19 REVELATION 13. DANIEL 11:40-45 ARE OUTLINING
53:23 THE SAME POWERS OF REVELATION 13 AND PART OF WHAT IS GOING TO
53:27 HAPPEN IN DANIEL 11:41 IS THE KING OF THE NORTH, THE PAPAL
53:32 POWER IS GOING TO ENTER INTO THE GLORIOUS LAND.
53:34 THAT IS WHERE I BELIEVE BIBLE PROPHECY IS BEING FULFILLED, THE
53:39 ENTERING OF THE POPE -- NOT JUST COMING TO AMERICA, BUT 9
53:42 SIGNIFICANCE OF THE FACT THAT HE CAME TO THIS COUNTRY SPOKE TO
53:48 CONGRESS, CAME TO THE WHITE HOUSE, SPOKE TO THE UNITED
53:51 NATIONS AND WENT TO THE PHILADELPHIA SQUARE AND HAD MASS
53:53 IN ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT PLACES AND WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO GET
53:55 INTO THE ALL THE PROPHETIC DETAILS.
53:57 THE POINT IS THIS, THIS COUNTRY WAS, ALWAYS HAS BEEN UNDERSTOOD
54:02 TO BE A PROTESTANT NATION. NOW WE ARE SEEING A TRANSITION
54:05 TAKE PLACE. >> TOTALLY.
54:06 >> AND THE PRINCIPLES -- AND THERE'S A GREAT BLOG ON OUR
54:09 WEBSITE, WHAT ABOUT THE POPE THAT TY GIBSON WROTE AND I WOULD
54:12 RECOMMEND OUR VIEWERS TO WATCH IT.
54:14 IT'S AT LIGHTBEARERS.ORG. OUR VIEWERS CAN GO AND READ IT,
54:18 I SHOULD SAY. WHAT ABOUT THE POPE THAT
54:22 BASICALLY IDENTIFIES -- IT'S NOT ABOUT A PERSON.
54:23 IT'S NOT ABOUT AN INDIVIDUAL. THIS GUY IS FANTASTIC IN THE WAY
54:26 THAT HE COMMUNICATES AND IS HUMBLE AND THE WAY THAT HE COMES
54:31 ACROSS BUT WHAT HE REPRESENTS, THE SYSTEM HE REPRESENTS, THE
54:35 DOCTRINES THAT HE REPRESENTS, THAT IS WHERE WE HAVE GOT TO BE
54:39 REALLY CAREFUL. BECAUSE WE CAN LOOK AT AN
54:42 INDIVIDUAL AND NOT REALIZE THAT WHAT THEY ARE REPRESENTING IS
54:45 COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN THE LOVABLE WAY THAT HE'S COMING
54:48 ACROSS WITH FORGIVENESS AND WITH HUMILITY.
54:53 ALL OF US CAN DO THE SAME THING. WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF THESE
54:58 CHARACTERISTICS. >> YOU KNOW WE HAVE JUST LEARNED
54:59 SO MUCH TONIGHT. IT'S BEEN SUCH A GOOD STUDY BUT
55:01 WE WANT TO GIVE YOU AT HOME THE OPPORTUNITY, IF WOULD YOU LIKE
55:04 TO GET IN TOUCH WITH JAMES OR CONTACT HIM AT LIGHT BEARERS,
55:09 HERE'S HIS INFORMATION.
55:15 >> IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO INVITE JAMES RAFFERTY TO SPEAK IN YOUR
55:20 AREA OR LEARN MORE ABOUT LIGHT BEARERS MINISTRY, YOU CAN DO SO
55:23 IN A VARIETY OF WAYS, YOU CAN WRITE:
55:41 YOU CAN CALL 541-988-3333. THAT'S 541-988-3333.
55:48 OR VISIT THEM ONLINE AT LIGHTBEARERS.ORG.
55:51 THAT'S LIGHTBEARERS.ORG. >> I HOPE YOU HAVE ENJOYED THIS
55:58 AS MUCH AS WE HAVE TONIGHT. JAMES, GIVE US JUST A VERY BRIEF
56:03 SUMMARY IN THE FEW SECONDS WE HAVE LEFT.
56:05 >> EVERY PERSON ON THE PLANET EARTH IS TODAY EITHER DEVELOPING
56:09 THE CHARACTER OF LAMB OR THE CHARACTER OF THE DRAGON.
56:12 ALL OF US ARE INVOLVED IN THIS GREAT CONTROVERSY.
56:18 WE ARE DEVELOPING THE DECEPTION LIES, THE PRIDE, ACCUSING,
56:22 CONTROL, FORCE, HYPOCRISY OR WE ARE DEVELOPING THE PRINCIPLES OF
56:27 LAMB, DEPENDING ON HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS, STANDING HIS
56:30 WORD, AND HAVING SELFLESS OTHER CENTERED LIVES AND OVERCOMING BY
56:35 HIS BLOOD AND FOLLOWING HIM WHEREVER HE GOES AND HAVING NO
56:39 GILE IN OUR MOUTHS. THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE OF
56:40 EVERYTHING THAT WE STUDIED TONIGHT.
56:42 >> AMEN AND IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL STUDY AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE
56:44 ALL NEED TO DO SELF-EXAMINATION AND REALIZE WE CANNOT CHANGE
56:49 OURSELF. ONLY GOD CAN CHANGE US.
56:51 SO WE NEED TO SURRENDER CONTROL OF OUR LIFE TO HIM AND LET HIM
56:54 DO THAT. JAMES, I'M GLAD YOU KNOW OUR
56:56 ADDRESS. I'M GLAD YOU KNOW YOUR WAY BACK
56:58 HERE BECAUSE WE ARE SURELY LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR RETURN.
57:02 HONEY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US TONIGHT AND OUR
57:04 PRAYER FOR YOU IS THAT THE GRACE OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS
57:08 CHRIST, THE LOVE OF THE FAST FATHER AND THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL BE WITH
57:14 YOU ALWAYS. >> AMEN.


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