Hello, my name is Dwayne Lemon.
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And I'm Lance Wilbur.
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And we would like
to welcome you to TKS,
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a True Knowledge of Self,
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where we get to know ourselves
from a Biblical perspective.
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You know, a lot of people
might be looking and wondering,
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"Why this title
True Knowledge of Self?"
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Well, if you had an opportunity
to hear our testimonies,
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both Brother Lance and myself,
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we both come from a
very, very deep experience
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in the hip-hop and R&B culture.
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And whether it be professional
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or it be more on
the street ground level,
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we both were showing how
hip-hop is not just something
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that is only
encompassed within music
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but it's a culture,
it's a whole lifestyle,
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but it's built off of a
concept called knowledge of self
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and, therefore, we decided
to put this program together
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where we can talk about
a True Knowledge of Self,
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and that's gonna be our
focus to a very large degree
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in this session today.
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Lance, once again, I
want to welcome you back
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and as I know
I'm glad to be back,
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so we can talk some
more about this idea
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about True Knowledge of
Self versus knowledge of self.
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And I remember when you
were sharing in your testimony
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you were talking about
knowledge of self playing
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a very large role in
the hip-hop and R&B culture.
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Yeah.
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I wanted to know if you
can build on that a little bit
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because we're going to take,
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we're gonna pretty
much start from there
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and kind of take it higher,
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so even our viewers
can understand what we mean
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when we talk about a
True Knowledge of Self.
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Absolutely.
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When we talked
about some of these things
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and we went into it
on a previous episode,
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we kind of gave a background
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and history of particularly
the Five-Percent Nation,
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the Nation of Gods and Earth,
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which is what I was
gravitating most towards
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before I became a Christian,
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and one of the tenets
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or one of the
primary tenets is this idea
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or this concept
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that I think translates into of
all streams of hip-hop culture
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because it's one of the primary
elements of hip-hop knowledge.
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They talk about
knowledge, wisdom, and over...
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what they call over standing.
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There's a lot of semantics
and wordplay but nevertheless,
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essentially, knowledge of
self, to just summarize it,
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is the true knowledge that
the original Asiatic Black man
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is god, that genetically
God is in him, and so therefore,
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he is constantly to not only
become aware and know himself,
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you know, the
physical, mental, the spiritual,
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but he is to live
out his true potential,
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which is this God nature in him.
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And so there's a kind of an idea
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that the entire earth was filled
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with different
races, but that these races,
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the various races were created,
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you know, by a mad
scientist, if you will.
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And this is literally the story,
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I mean, at certain levels,
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it sounds kind of
funny and ridiculous.
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But this is what is taught
and that as the races degraded
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or as the shades got lighter,
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then the moral
depravity became increased.
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And so there are a
certain group of individuals
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on the planet
that have a god nature,
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and then there's certain
individuals on the planet
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that have a devil nature,
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however, even those
that have a devil nature,
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that are born
with a devil nature,
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can express the God nature
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but those that
possess the God nature
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from the very
beginning are destined to obtain
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that knowledge of self
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and become their sole
controller, if you will.
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So then, you know, you
talked about how it is something
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where as more
depravity increased,
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but it was connected
to those who were lighter,
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I guess, you made that point.
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Correct.
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So I'm wondering if we
could speak real plain on that.
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When we refer to
those who are lighter,
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are we talking about
light skin Asiatic Black man
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or are we talking about indeed
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what we understand today
to be Caucasian individuals,
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white people in a lack
for real straight terms?
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Yeah, we're talking
about the Caucasian races.
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And this is what
knowledge of self
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was trying to
bring out to try to,
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I guess, enlighten individuals
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so they can
understand these things?
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Yeah, it's kind of
a reverse perspective,
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for example, European
descendants theologically
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built into the
Christian theology the idea
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that the black
races were cursed almost
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because of curse,
curse that became,
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and so that curse because Ham,
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the son of Noah
was dark skinned,
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historically, then the
dark skin race was cursed
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because of what Ham
did to his father Noah.
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And so it's kind of
the reverse of that.
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It's the idea of
the concept of leprosy.
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For example, when
Miriam was cursed with leprosy
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and it turned her skin white,
that lighter skin is a curse
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and that they were cursed
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and destined to go to
the Caucasus Mountains,
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and so there
we're the descendants
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of the Caucasian races.
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And so yeah, I
mean, it's a twisted idea,
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it's a twisted theology,
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if you will, but
it's what was taught.
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Hmm, interesting.
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So then when we look at
this concept of supposedly
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just down to
pigmentation of the skin,
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one group can
come into the world
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with a natural
nature which is evil,
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but because of a
darker pigmentation
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and what have you,
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supposedly now
there's other group
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who have a godlike nature.
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Right.
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Okay, so then if we
have this godlike nature,
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then in essence, we are Gods.
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So this is, this is, ultimately
what Knowledge of Self
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is bringing up.
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Right, the idea,
like we discussed,
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that all religions
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are basically
classified as Tricknology.
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The idea that
there were individuals
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that came to confuse the gods,
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if you will,
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and try to get them to
believe in a false religion
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in which the
god was not in them,
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the god was not them,
the god was some spirit,
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and they called
them spook religions
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and all these layers of
religiosity were masking
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and hiding the
true knowledge of self
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from the original man.
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And what
supposedly was the benefit of,
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okay, let's say I buy
into this, and let's say, okay,
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I accept the
fact that I am a god
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or I am god or what have you,
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what supposedly is going
to be the blessing or benefit
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that I get of
having this "overstanding"?
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I think that, you
know, would be argued,
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I don't think there is
an agreed upon end result.
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You know, you would lean
more towards the idea of...
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Because let me say it this way,
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they dismiss the
concept of there being a heaven,
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all right?
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And they believe hell is earth,
so we're in hell right now,
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living in hell.
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So there's no idea, they
insert different branches,
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the Zulu Nation,
maybe even the Nubians,
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and some others insert the idea
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that we are going to rise
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to a new level
of human existence
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and potentially
go to other planets.
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I mean, they literally
talked about spaceships
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taking us to other planets
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and we'll
become galactic humans.
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Interesting, now
when we read the Bible,
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you know, we accept the
Bible as the Word of God.
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Yeah.
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Now, in brief,
why would you say,
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"This is why I accept the
Bible as the Word of God"?
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Just in your own words,
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anything that
would come to your mind,
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why do you accept the
Bible as the Word of God?
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Because we know that
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that's one major challenge
between several aspects,
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not holistically the several
aspects of hip-hop culture
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is that it's more
anti-Christian, anti-Bible,
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but yet here you and I are
coming from hip-hop culture
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but at the same
time we are Christians,
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we believe in the Bible.
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What would you say to someone...
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Let's say, our
viewers are asking,
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"Why should I
believe in the Bible?"
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You know, people are
gonna ask things like that.
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How would you help them
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to just give a
little spurt on that,
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and, of course,
we're gonna build on this
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later on in much depth.
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Yeah.
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Basically, from my own story,
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how I came to
trust the Bible as true
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and the authority as God's Word
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is when I studied it
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that very first time
in that barber's shop.
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It was the first time
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I had systematically
approached studying the Bible
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and when I saw the
prophecies of Daniel 2
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and how God was able
to, years, in some cases,
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hundreds and
hundreds of years in advance,
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determine the course of history,
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and the major nations that
would impact the people of God
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throughout the
centuries going all the way
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to the very end,
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when I saw that through
the dream of Nebuchadnezzar,
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to me, that was
one of the main things
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that solidified my understanding
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and my trust in scripture
because I had studied history.
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And as I said, I
read some of those books
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where it kind of
outlined and highlighted
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some of those prophecies
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and when I saw them
in the Bible consistent,
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I said, "You
know, this can't be,
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this can't just be contrived."
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Something
additionally was the fact
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that the contradictions
that I had read about the Bible
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from the New Age
Movement, or from Islam,
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or from the Five-Percent Nation,
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the contradictions
that were highlighted
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were not present in the
Bible once I studied the Bible.
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So they would say
something like well,
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you know, the Quran would say,
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"Jesus didn't die on the cross."
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That a miracle took place
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where he changed one of his
disciple's face into his face
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and one of his disciples
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actually died on the
cross and he escaped.
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Hmm. Right?
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So it kind of
dismisses the whole atonement
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and the idea that
Jesus came as the lamb
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that we'll talk
about at some point.
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So some of the elements,
there are many other things,
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but it says that
there is a contradiction,
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upon further research and study,
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well, the
contradiction doesn't exist.
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The Bible speaks of itself
and is consistent throughout.
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So that consistency and
that historical providence
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and that foresight, to
me, was what did it for me.
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You know, one of the
things that did it for me
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when I really think about
it is in addition to the points
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that you just
made about eliminating
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all these
so-called contradictions.
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Of course, studying prophecy,
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how in the world can a
book that goes back ages
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tell what's gonna
happen thousands of years later
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and it happens in
pin-pointed accuracy.
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Obviously, those
things were profound,
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but I like the words of Jesus.
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Jesus said by their
fruit you shall know them.
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Mm-hm.
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And one of the things
that I like about the Bible,
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one of the things that
made me a believer in the Bible
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as the unadulterated
Word of the God was
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because of the
fruit that is born
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when one beholds it,
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reads it, and dares to live it.
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Right.
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The Bible says in John 17:17,
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"Sanctify them
through thy truth,
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thy Word is truth."
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Yeah.
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So the Word of God is designed
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to have a sanctifying
effect upon an individual.
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And what does that
word mean by the way?
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Sanctify means to be
set apart for holy use.
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In other words, the
sanctifying effect is that
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when I read the Bible,
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if I embrace the
words that are in it,
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the holiness that is
taught through that book
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will now be
manifested in my day-to-day life
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and my day-to-day
dealings with mankind.
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Right.
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And that's kind
of that righteousness
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that was highlighted
in the hip-hop culture
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in the knowledge
side was inconsistent
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because the man
would speak "I am all God,
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and I'm my sole controller."
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And then they would go
and you beat somebody down,
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or you smoke
weed, or sell crack.
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And that's my point.
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That's exactly my point
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because, you know,
as I think about it,
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when I read the
Bible at one time,
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when I was living a
life naturally, fornicating,
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all of a sudden, the
Bible introduced a concept
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that I am to
flee from fornication,
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1 Thessalonians 4:3.
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Yeah.
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And it brought out
the fact that I can have,
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through the power of
the indwelling Spirit,
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self-control that even
when I see an individual
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that can tempt me
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that I don't have to
give into temptation.
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In hip-hop culture,
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I'm consistently seeing
that it's do what you want,
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when you want, how you
want, if you feel it, do it.
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And therefore,
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it's a demonstration
of no self-control,
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it's about what I want I take it
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and it's divide and conquer.
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So when I looked at
the principles in my life
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growing up in hip-hop
culture, I had no self-control.
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When I studied the Bible
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and I began to
see Christ dwelling
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within me the hope of glory,
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I started to have self-control
not just over my passions,
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but my diet, you know,
my whole entire lifestyle.
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Right.
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So the thing that did it for me
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was when I started
looking at the Bible,
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I said, "If we study
this and embrace these words
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in our hearts, I
can actually live a life
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that the Bible
defines as holiness."
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I'm gonna break that down
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because I mean this
is where it gets sweet
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because while
the Bible brings out
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the principles of
righteousness and holiness
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that can be born in the fruit...
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Or the fruit can be
born in a person's life
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is kind of like the song says,
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"You ask me how I know He lives,
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He lives because
He is in my heart."
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My life is different.
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I'm not the same person.
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But if I
supposedly grew up cussing,
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and swearing, and cheating,
and stealing, and smoking,
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and everything else before
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supposedly I came
into a knowledge of self
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and all of a sudden I
come to a knowledge of self
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but I'm still smoking.
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Yeah. I'm still cursing. Yeah.
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I'm still losing control,
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I still have no
balance in my life.
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I still have all
these A, B, C problems
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that I had before the
so-called knowledge of self,
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that tells me that
those teachings are powerless.
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Right. And that's the
greatest contradiction.
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So all of the accusations
flung upon Christianity,
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that it's weak,
that it's confusion,
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it's lies, it's falsehoods,
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and Christians are a
living contradiction is the same
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or even greater
in the other side,
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in the hip-hop realm
and the knowledge side
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because it is a
living contradiction.
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You're saying one thing
and then you're doing another
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and you really don't have power,
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and that's the key.
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And so you're saying
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Christianity is
weak and it's powerless
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but you really
don't have any power
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to control your sole controller.
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And, of course,
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there are individuals
with very strong will power.
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So there's always
maybe a pillar here or there.
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You know, even
in other religions
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like a Gandhi or
somebody else that can exhibit
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at least publicly very strong
self-control and discipline.
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Mm-hm.
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And those people
are highlighted as,
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"Oh, here is a perfect example."
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But that should
be across the board
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or at least it
should be seen in many cases
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with no compromise.
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And you know what, you know,
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as you talk these scriptures
just keep dropping in my mind.
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I'm thinking of
1 Corinthians 9:25.
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Yeah.
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I believe that that
separates the truest sins
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of what God wanted to
accomplish in humanity
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versus those who
just have a good control
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on one pillar or another.
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Yeah.
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The Bible says in
1 Corinthians 9:25,
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"If any man
strives for the mastery,"
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it says, "he must be temperate
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or
self-controlled in all things."
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So it's not about
while I have a great diet,
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but at the end of the
day, I still have passion in me
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and I find myself being violent.
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It's about that
person that in every area,
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in every dynamic of their life
that God is governing over them
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so that at every stage of life,
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no matter what the trials
or the circumstances of life,
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they have total
control over themselves.
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Right.
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And temperance is not
just talking about moderation
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and everything.
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The idea of temperance,
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the Biblical
concept of temperance
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is talking
about total abstinence
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from anything that is
harmful to me or to others
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and then moderation in
all things that are good.
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That are good. Right.
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Exactly. Now
this is getting sweet.
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Okay, so knowledge itself,
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it teaches this
whole God concept.
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Now we know that
there's a character in the Bible
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that obviously
wanted to go ahead
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and oppose God and try
to exalt himself as God.
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Why don't you
talk to us about that?
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Ah, well, I mean,
it has to deal with...
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We have to start
at the beginning.
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We talked about Revelation
12 and war beginning in heaven,
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and we know that the war
was fought with the dragon
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and it goes on to say that
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the dragon is the
devil and the Satan.
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And we can trace
through the Bible
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the origins of that corruption
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when it translated to the earth,
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and we'll be discussing
that I believe shortly
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or at least the next episode.
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So we have to start there,
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and so I wanna go into the Bible
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and look at Ezekiel 28.
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Okay.
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And if I look at Ezekiel 28,
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I'm not dealing with
the whole entire chapter
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because you can spend
hours and hours on this,
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but it's a lamentation
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and kind of a parable
against a certain king,
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and then it transfers,
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transitions to
discussing Lucifer.
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And some of the
characteristics are highlighted,
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we don't have to
go into all of it,
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but at least,
starting with verse 14
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because it kind
of gives us a glimpse
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into what were some of
the root causes of this war.
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And again, when we
are talking about war,
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we're not necessarily
talking about fist fights
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and sword play.
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We're talking about a
war, an ideological war,
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a philosophical war,
right, a war with the mind
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because no man can fight God.
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That's right. Right.
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If God is all powerful,
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then how is man gonna supposedly
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try to contest with that.
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Yeah.
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Any created being can't
fight with God physically,
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so this is not what
we're talking about.
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So we're talking
about ideological warfare,
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but what is it?
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What happened?
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The Bible gives a
glimpse in Ezekiel 28.
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And we're gonna look at
verses 14 to where exactly?
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We're gonna go
verses 14 to verses 17.
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All right.
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So I'm gonna read through
them and then we'll discuss it.
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Okay.
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So Ezekiel 28:14, it says,
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"Thou art the
anointed cherub that covereth,
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and I have set thee so.
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Thou wast upon the
holy mountain of God,
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thou hast walked up and down
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in the midst of
the stones of fire.
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Thou wast perfect in
thy ways from the day
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that thou wast created,
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till iniquity was found in thee.
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By the multitude
of thy merchandise,
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they have filled the
midst of thee with violence,
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and thou hast sinned.
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Therefore, I will cast thee
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as profane out of
the mountain of God
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and I will destroy
thee, O covering cherub,
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from the midst of
the stones of fire.
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Thine heart was lifted
up because of thy beauty,
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thou hast corrupted thy wisdom
by reason of thy brightness.
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I will cast thee to the ground,
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I will lay thee before kings
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that they may behold thee."
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So we're not going
through every single detail
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and intricate
aspect of these verses.
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It shows that
what I can summarize
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in one statement,
or phrase, or a word,
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or a compound
word, self-exaltation.
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Mm-hm.
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Lucifer, who was
the light-bearer,
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which was his name
before he fell and became Satan,
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the adversary, the
devil, the deceiver,
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the adversary and the deceiver,
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he was the light-bearer,
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but as he began
to focus on himself,
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as he began to kind of meditate
upon his own brightness,
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if you will, in his glory,
00:19:22.36\00:19:25.23
he began to exalt
himself in his mind,
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and we'll talk about
that in a little bit,
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but he began to
exalt his image of himself,
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if you will, and
self became more important
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than anything else.
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Now you just said something
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that I can almost guarantee you
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might have shocked the majority
of the viewers just now.
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All right.
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You just said that
Lucifer means what?
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Light-bearer.
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So Lucifer means
light-bearer. Yes.
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Now, you know, typically
00:19:54.92\00:19:56.42
when you hear the
name Lucifer today,
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everybody runs from that name.
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They say, "Oh, it's a bad name!"
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You know what have you,
but when you look at Lucifer,
00:20:00.56\00:20:01.90
you just said
Lucifer means light-bearer.
00:20:01.93\00:20:03.26
Right. It was
his God given name.
00:20:03.30\00:20:04.83
That's right, it
was his God given name.
00:20:04.87\00:20:06.77
So when God...
00:20:06.80\00:20:08.50
So Lucifer, you
said became somebody.
00:20:08.54\00:20:11.91
Who did he become? He
became the devil and Satan.
00:20:11.94\00:20:14.38
So if Lucifer
became the devil and Satan,
00:20:14.41\00:20:17.71
then that means
that God did not create
00:20:17.75\00:20:19.71
the devil and Satan.
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Absolutely.
00:20:21.12\00:20:22.45
It means that God created...
00:20:22.48\00:20:23.82
Lucifer. Lucifer.
00:20:23.85\00:20:25.19
Now that, I can
guarantee you right now,
00:20:25.22\00:20:27.49
that there are more than
likely some of our viewers
00:20:27.52\00:20:29.62
that are scratching their head,
00:20:29.66\00:20:30.99
"Wait a minute, I
thought God created Satan."
00:20:31.03\00:20:32.66
And here it is that
you're telling us differently,
00:20:32.69\00:20:34.46
so the same way you broke down
the word Lucifer, light-bearer.
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Yeah. What does
Satan and devil mean?
00:20:38.37\00:20:40.50
Because, you know, people
are probably wondering that.
00:20:40.54\00:20:41.87
Right.
00:20:41.90\00:20:43.24
As we mentioned Satan
00:20:43.27\00:20:44.61
and the devil means
adversary and accuser.
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Slanderer. Or slanderer, right.
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So then we have a
situation where God,
00:20:50.51\00:20:54.25
when it was
God's will to create,
00:20:54.28\00:20:57.15
God said, "When we
get to the Angelicals,
00:20:57.19\00:20:59.85
I'm gonna create someone
who is gonna bear my light."
00:20:59.89\00:21:03.32
To represent me.
00:21:03.36\00:21:04.69
That's right,
because God is light,
00:21:04.73\00:21:06.06
you know, the
Bible talks about that,
00:21:06.09\00:21:07.43
so God is light,
God created Lucifer
00:21:07.46\00:21:09.46
who was supposed to bear
that wonderful light of God
00:21:09.50\00:21:11.80
to everyone that he was around.
00:21:11.83\00:21:13.17
Right.
00:21:13.20\00:21:14.54
So that was God's
intent when he made him.
00:21:14.57\00:21:15.90
Yes.
00:21:15.94\00:21:17.27
But then Lucifer
became a slanderer,
00:21:17.31\00:21:20.88
Lucifer became an adversary,
00:21:20.91\00:21:23.48
an enemy of God and
that was based on choice.
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Yes.
00:21:25.68\00:21:27.02
So that means that
when God created the angels,
00:21:27.05\00:21:29.28
God did not create the angels
00:21:29.32\00:21:30.92
to just simply be
robots to everything
00:21:30.95\00:21:32.79
He says without question,
00:21:32.82\00:21:34.29
but that they
were actually angels
00:21:34.32\00:21:35.66
that were created
with will power or choice.
00:21:35.69\00:21:37.43
Right. This is
incredible man. Right.
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Because
seriously, a lot of people,
00:21:39.39\00:21:40.90
they don't look at it like that.
00:21:40.93\00:21:42.73
When they think about this,
00:21:42.76\00:21:44.10
they think that
angels were just a bunch of,
00:21:44.13\00:21:45.47
you know, kind of...
00:21:45.50\00:21:46.84
Robots.
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Robots or servants.
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Yeah, but the
angels actually had will.
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That's right.
00:21:51.61\00:21:52.94
So therefore, Lucifer
became Satan, it was his choice,
00:21:52.97\00:21:57.21
and then as a result of that,
the down spiral took place,
00:21:57.25\00:21:59.88
and the cause of this choice
we're finding in Ezekiel 28
00:21:59.91\00:22:04.65
is that it says his
wisdom became corrupted
00:22:04.69\00:22:07.29
by the reason of his brightness.
00:22:07.32\00:22:08.66
Right.
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Self-exaltation, if
you want to summarize it.
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Very powerful. Yeah.
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Very powerful. Yeah.
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Okay. So you
continue to build on it.
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I wanna
transition now to Isaiah 14.
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Okay.
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Because this is
another location in the Bible
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where it gives us kind
of, it puts a magnifying glass
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on how Lucifer became corrupted
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and became the
adversary, the enemy of God.
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So I'm gonna turn to Isaiah 14.
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Mm-hm.
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And as we just
take a look again,
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we can't go through
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every single
verse in the chapter,
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but we can make an
effort to at least highlight,
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you know, kind of the
crux or the central point.
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So I'm looking
at Isaiah 14:12-14.
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and I'll read them.
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Isaiah 14:12, it says, "How
art thou fallen from heaven,
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O Lucifer, son of the morning!
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How art thou cut
down to the ground,
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which didst weaken the nations!
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For thou hast
said in thine heart,
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I will ascend into heaven,
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I will exalt my throne
above the stars of God.
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I will sit also upon the
mount of the congregation,
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in the sides of the north.
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I will ascend above
the heights of the clouds,
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I will be like the Most High."
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Mm.
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Again, this, you
know, people refer to it
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as an I problem
in this repetitive
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focus on oneself
and Lucifer, now,
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in his mind, in his heart,
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believing that he can be God
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and, in fact,
be better than God,
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that he can ascend above God.
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And this is kind of
the most wicked aspect
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or dangerous aspect of this
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adulterated concept
of knowledge of self.
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The idea that
we as human beings,
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and we're gonna talk about this
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what the Bible, this
true knowledge of self,
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as human beings that
we can actually become God
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and even become above God
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because God
doesn't exist out there,
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God is here, right?
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Yeah.
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Some even KRS-One is commenting
on a radio show saying that,
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"What if God is a bloodline."
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And Afrika
Brambaataa commenting,
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and, well, for those of you
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who don't know
who those people are,
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you know, in later episodes,
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we'll be highlighting
them but those of you
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who know hip-hop culture,
know who Afrika Brambaataa
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or the leader
of the Zulu Nation,
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and know who KRS-One is,
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who we talked about
in previous testimonies.
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But
nevertheless, these individuals
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are talking about
God as a bloodline.
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Mm-hm.
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So they don't
believe God is anywhere else
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but in you and
that is very dangerous
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because this is
what Lucifer believed.
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That's right.
That I will ascend.
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I will be like the Most High.
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And so when we
consider these things
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we have to make a decision
and we're all free to do that.
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So we're not saying
that everybody has to believe
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what we're saying right now,
but you have to make a decision
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and now consider at
least and insert into your,
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you know, choices, into
your possibility of choices now
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what the Bible
is actually saying
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and not
necessarily take everything
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that people say about the Bible
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but actually take
into consideration
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what the Bible
is saying of itself.
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And this is very
powerful because you're showing
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that the Bible
does interpret itself,
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and therefore, and you notice
that that's what we're doing,
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we're just looking
at what the text says
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and we're letting the text
pretty much explain itself.
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It is telling us that Lucifer,
that was the first name,
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that was what was
given him, that's his name,
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but we know that there
is also Satan and devil.
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Now the Bible is written
in three languages Hebrew,
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Aramaic, and Greek.
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Right.
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And therefore, when you look
up these original languages,
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you look up the word
Lucifer, you get light-bearer
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and then, of course,
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you get Satan,
adversary, devil, slanderer.
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And we find this choice was made
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because Satan
began to look at himself,
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he started to look at
his gifts, his talents,
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his skills, and his abilities,
00:25:59.22\00:26:00.56
and he forgot the
one who gave it to him.
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Right.
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The other aspect is he
began to look at himself
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and see that he was
better than everybody else,
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and that's also another danger
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or hazard is we're comparing
ourselves against others
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and saying, "Oh, well,
I'm bad or maybe I'm not,
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but he's worse.
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So as long as I'm
better than him, I'm okay."
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But that's not
what the Bible teaches.
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The Bible gives the
standard that is perfect.
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And, you know, it is
funny as you say that,
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as I continually listen to you,
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the Lord just keeps putting
more thoughts in my head.
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And I'd like to turn
to a text of scripture
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because when I
think about 2 Corinthians,
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I want you to notice this
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because in 2 Corinthians I
want to look at chapter 12.
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Mm-hm.
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And you're gonna notice
that something is said here.
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In fact, I believe in
2 Corinthians 10:12. Yes.
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Here's what it says,
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and it goes along
the lines of this idea
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of comparing ourselves.
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And look at what the Bible says.
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The Bible says in
2 Corinthians 10:12,
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"For we dare not make
ourselves of the number,
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or compare ourselves with
some that commend themselves,
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but they measuring
themselves by themselves,
00:27:03.52\00:27:06.19
and comparing
themselves among themselves,
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are not wise."
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So here it is that the
Bible is spelling it out
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but, Lance, we
got to a point already
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where we're at the close
00:27:15.53\00:27:17.03
and we just got to pick
back up in our next session
00:27:17.07\00:27:18.57
because this is
getting very powerful.
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Yeah. Very deep.
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To our audience, to our viewers,
00:27:21.70\00:27:23.27
we just want to thank
God for you joining us.
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Obviously, I believe you're
being as blessed as we are,
00:27:25.61\00:27:28.38
and we want you to
continue you to come back,
00:27:28.41\00:27:30.31
we want to invite your friends,
00:27:30.35\00:27:31.91
we want you to be
able to see the things
00:27:31.95\00:27:34.32
that God is
showing us from His Word
00:27:34.35\00:27:36.69
as we deal with the
subject of knowledge of self
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versus a true knowledge of self.
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Until the next time,
00:27:41.76\00:27:43.09
we want you to thank you
again for joining us at TKS,
00:27:43.12\00:27:45.19
a True Knowledge of Self.
00:27:45.23\00:27:46.73
And always remember Proverbs 2:6
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that it is the Lord
that gives us wisdom
00:27:49.63\00:27:53.03
and out of His mouth comes
knowledge and understanding.
00:27:53.07\00:27:58.91
Looking forward to
seeing you next time.
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God bless.
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