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For more than 20 years Actor
Jim Carey has been making people
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laugh. If you enjoy comedy films
it's very likely that you've
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seen at least one of his: Liar,
Liar, Dumb and Dumber and Ace
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Ventura are just a few of the
popular movies that come to mind
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when Carey's name is mentioned.
But despite his association with
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humor and hilarity Carey dealt
with major depression for a
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significant part of his
life. You see depression doesn't
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discriminate. It's a condition
that can affect anyone whether
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you are rich or poor,
male or female, black or white.
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According to Beyond Blue
depression is the leading cause
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of disability worldwide. It's
estimated that in any one year
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around one million Australian
adults will suffer from
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depression. But how can you tell
whether you or someone you know
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is depressed? What factors
can cause or contribute to
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depression? And once you know
what the causes are can you do
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anything about them? Well in
this program called Depression
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Doesn't Discriminate our guest,
Dr. Neil Nedley, will explore
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the answers to these questions
and also share some practical
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insights. You won't want to miss
this. It could change your life.
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We live in a society that
has more entertainment, more
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technology, and more social
networking than ever before.
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We can surf the internet with
the swipe of a finger. We can
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watch TV, movies and sports
on demand. And there's no excuse
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for not staying in contact
when we have Facebook, Skype and
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What's Up. With access
to endless entertainment and
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constant communication
you'd think we'd be pretty happy
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wouldn't you? But that's not the
case. In fact, studies show that
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since 1915 each successive
generation has increased in
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depression. What's causing
it and how can we recognize it?
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Well our guest, Dr. Neil Nedley,
is here to help us answer those
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questions. He's a full time,
practicing physician in internal
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medicine and with emphases in
gastroenterology, mental health
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and lifestyle medicine. He's
also the author of books such as
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Depression, the Way Out
and The Lost Art of Thinking.
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Dr. Nedley welcome back. We're
delighted to have you on our
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program again. We're looking
at this big issue of depression.
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Yes. Today we want to
look at the solutions.
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Yes, that's the most exciting
part of this illness is that
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there is a solution, there
is a way out and one of the most
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rewarding things that I do
is put on treatment programs for
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those who have previously
thought there is no way out.
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These are the hopeless
individuals or what we call
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treatment resistant, depressed
individuals, ones who have been
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taking medicine and maybe more
medicine or maybe have had side
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effects from medicine and can't
take any medicine or don't want
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to be on it, but have just
suffered from this disease to
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the point where finally they
hear about our program and it
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is amazing to see what happens
when the real solutions are
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Well we want to
know the solution then.
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All right. The solution
first has to do with finding the
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underlying causes and I would
recommend again our website
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depressionthewayout.com to be
able to try to get a clue of the
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underlying causes and we
addressed that in your last
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program. But it would be
worth while for us to also talk
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about some
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general treatment measures
before we get into the specifics
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What we have found out is that
everyone with depression will
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start to get better when
they begin a fitness program.
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If they're not fit already
getting on an exercise program
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where they work towards getting
fit can definitely help their
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depression.
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So that sounds so simple.
Exercise, the importance of
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exercise.
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Yes, very simple. The other
is light therapy. All of us
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actually need bright
light through our eyes and that
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bright light helps us to turn
tryptophan in our brain into
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serotonin. It can help elevate
our mood and also keep us calm
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so we don't get anxious with
stress. Making sure that you
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either have that light therapy,
particularly in the morning is
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the best time. Our body clocks
are set up with or are set by
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light in the morning. And early
to bed, early to rise helps with
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as well. Most depressed people,
Gary, are night timers you know.
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In other words, they're late
nighters. They don't like going
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to bed early and they feel like
they can't function that way.
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But we can turn into who's late
nighter into someone who has a
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lot of energy in the morning
by actually resetting their body
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clock through light therapy and
then putting them on early to
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bed early to rise and in seven
days they'll wake up rejuvenated
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just from resetting the
body clock and resetting their
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circadian rhythms.
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So what are the steps in doing
that, changing your pattern,
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going to bed early. Is there
some practical advice to help
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people in making that decision
and then implementing it?
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Yeah, well, if they're
able to make it, you know, some
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entertainers they have to
work at night you know and of
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course there's other people that
have to work at night. But most
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depressed people don't have to
to; they could actually be on an
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early to bed early to rise
schedule and it's well worth the
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effort of doing so. They might
actually have to invest in a
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light box if it's the winter
time because the sun might not
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be up at 5:30 or 6:00 in
the morning in the winter time.
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There's a medical grade light
box that works actually just
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like the sun without the side
effects of the sun actually,
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they won't cause
sunburn or those type of issues.
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It simulates the blue sky
and it'll help reset their body
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clock and if they do that every
morning at say 6 A.M. Six A.M.
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is a great time to do this
and wake up to this lightbox or
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you can do it before. In seven
days they'll be reset but they
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also need to go to bed early
and when they go to bed early
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instead of tossing and turning,
finding a comfortable position
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and then holding that position
for 20 minutes. If they hold it
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for 20 minutes, they're still
not asleep, change positions to
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another comfortable position
and do it another 20 and by the
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third time most people will
be asleep. Then they'll be ready
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for reshifting to
early to bed early to rise.
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Now what usually prevents
people from going to bed early?
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Well in a depressed person
what prevents them is just their
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lack of desire. What
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happens with a depressed person
is that they will get dumping of
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their serotonin, no epinephrine
and dopamine in response to
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sleep deprivation. So they'll
actually feel better being sleep
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deprived the longer they stay
up so that's one of the reasons
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why they do it. But the problem
is eventually they have to go to
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bed and when they do they wake
up like a complete zombie in the
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morning. So the treatment is not
to stay up. The treatment is to
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reverse that issue and get on
that early to bed early to rise
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approach.
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What are some practical ways
that can assist us in getting to
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bed earlier?
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Well actually not eating
before going to bed helps out.
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In fact, it's best to not
eat for about three hours before
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going to bed to get nice
sleep. But also not having the
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television on in the bedroom and
not even having computer screens
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There are studies showing that
blue light emitted from TVs and
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computer screens, even
these small screens, these smart
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phones or i-pads actually
inhibits sleep. So, getting rid
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of that social media stuff
before going to bed and getting
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it out of the bedroom, that's
an important aspect in being
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able to sleep adequately. Also
you don't want to run a marathon
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right before going to bed. Don't
be out there sweating, playing
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basketball. It takes a while to
tone down. It's actually better
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to have some nice soft music
on maybe and then just reading
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something, particularly
maybe some spiritual material or
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something out of the Psalms or
Proverbs and having that by the
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bedside and that's a good
way to actually end the day.
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So, Dr. Nedley, exercise is
important. Any particular type
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of exercise?
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The aerobic exercise is
important which means you don't
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have to necessarily invest in a
lot of equipment, you know. It's
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like getting outside if you can
and actually brisk walking has
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been shown to be very beneficial
Also running, swimming,
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bicycling; these aerobic types
of exercises are very beneficial
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and the longer we do them the
more beneficial. For depressed
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individuals we recommend 60
minutes a day, spending time in
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aerobic type of exercise will
improve that circulation to the
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brain and studies show it's
equivalent to antidepressants
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without side effects.
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So, we're talking
about practical solutions.
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Practical solutions. Another
solution is what we're putting
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into our body, the nutritional
aspect is very important in
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regards to mental health.
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So we're talking now
about what we eat, our meals.
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That's right, yes. Getting
enough tryptophan, tyrosine.
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getting enough of the omega-3's
even making sure we're not
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deficient in iron, we have
enough B12, enough of the B
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vitamins. Many people with
depression are junk food eaters
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because they self-medicate with,
you know, sugary type foods,
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which are the empty calories
and so, changing them off from
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the empty calories and also away
from meat. It turns out that
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meat has arachidonic acid which
actually causes some chronic
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inflammation. One of the
reasons why there's an emotional
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intelligence and an IQ advantage
by going plant based. So, the
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plant based is much less
inflammatory. So, shifting over
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to a plant based diet, which
actually can be tasty, you know.
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The people come to our program
and the first day they're saying
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this food is great. I had
no idea that food that would
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actually help me get better with
depression is so tasty. So we
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even have cooking schools, you
know, better food, better mood.
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To learn how to cook it is fun
as well and you don't sacrifice
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taste being on a healthy diet.
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Now you mentioned better food,
better mood. Yes. Tell us about
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some of the foods
that are good for us.
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Well, it turns out flax
seed, chia seeds, spinach, blue
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berries, whole wheat bread
is very good. Stay away from the
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white bread. Whole wheat bread
is going to have omega-3's, it's
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going to have iron, it's going
to have a lot of the vitamins
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that we need. For the tryptophan
the wheat meat is a loaded
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source, tofu is, pumpkin seeds
are and also even the greens are
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not a bad choice. Then the
tyrosine we even get in more
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greens; mustard greens are very
high in tyrosine, watermelon is
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a good source. Even spirulina
is a good source, the seaweed
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for tyrosine and this is what
can help keep us alert. You know
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the tyrosine helps us with
cognitive function so we can
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remember what's at the bottom
of the page. It also gives us
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energy. The tryptophan foods are
going to keep us from getting
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anxious under stress and keep
us more calm. So, depending upon
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the condition of the individual
I might emphasize certain foods
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more in one area than another
because of their particular
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neurochemistry.
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So this is
something we can all do.
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That's right.
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We're going to be healthier
by eating these good foods based
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around a plant based diet.
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Exactly.
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Are there any other simple
solutions that you might have?
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Absolutely. Simple solutions
that actually improve the
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circulation and activity of the
front part of our brain, frontal
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lobe. This is crucial for every
depressed or anxious individual
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to get their frontal lobe
circulating and active again.
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So tell us
again, the frontal lobe?
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Yeah, the frontal lobe is the
seat of spirituality, morality,
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and the will. It's also the
analytical portion of our brain.
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And by changing entertainment
types of choices we can actually
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improve the frontal lobe
of our brain, getting rid of
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entertainment television for
instance and replacing it with
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good reading, you know, like
Proverbs or something that's
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going to stimulate the mind and
help it be more creative. That
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will improve the frontal lobe
of the brain. Getting rid of the
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syncopated rock rhythms or heavy
metal rhythms and replacing it
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with more soothing melodies and
harmonies like harp music and
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something that just is beautiful
This music can be very enjoyable
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but actually it's been shown to
balance the brain away from the
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limbic system into the frontal
lobe which will then definitely
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help depression.
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So, even the music we listen
to does have an impact on us.
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It does have an impact on
us. You know, this is a crucial
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issue for many people
with depression. They have that
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frontal lobe hit and when we
have a frontal lobe hit, we're
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actually addictive, we're
partaking in something that is
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going to be addictive. And so
a lot of this heavy metal music
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the reason why it's popular
is it gets a grip on people and
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without it they actually feel
worse. So they're thinking it's
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helping them out. But when
they come to our program and
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recognize, no this is hurting
them in the long run, as they
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make that change, it's pretty
wonderful in regards as how that
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frontal lobe starts to come back
again. And there's even other
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addictions as well that a lot
of times people don't recognize
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are such, even self-mutilation
is not due to suicidal ideation
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necessarily. It's actually due
to an addiction where they feel
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the cut and see the blood
run and the endorphins. These
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addictions have to be dealt with
as well. And when we deal with
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those, frontal lobe circulation
comes back again. So, that's
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why it requires a comprehensive
approach. Can be very simple
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means but it also can be
complicated enough that a lot
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people make the choice to come
to a program like this or get
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educated in a mental health
education program in their
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community so they can
tackle these things and get the
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coaching they need. You
know, another serious thing that
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people can do with depression
of course is anorexia, even
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bulimia. These conditions
actually complicate it more and
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can actually be life threatening
So, it's very important not to
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put up with that but to get the
help that you need if you are in
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that camp of anorexia or even
the bulimic side of things. Get
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the help that you need so
that this brain chemistry can
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actually be corrected so that
you don't have to go to those
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measures to try
to self-medicate.
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Are there other ways that we
can improve our brain function?
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Yes there is. Social support
instead of social isolation.
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Actually maybe getting
into a group that's working on
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improving their brain and being
part of the social network.
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Coaching system, that's
been very helpful. And then also
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cognitive behavioral therapy has
been shown to be very beneficial
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in improving...
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Now what is that?
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Cognitive behavioral therapy is
actually recognizing that it's
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our thoughts that cause our
emotions and behavior. And so,
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cognitive behavioral therapy
teaches us to analyze our
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thoughts for distortions and
then to correct those distorted
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thoughts and that's one of the
reasons it improves frontal lobe
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circulation. It requires
an analysis of our thoughts,
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recognizing distortions in
the thoughts and then correcting
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those thoughts. And that's been
shown to be very beneficial.
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We utilize this in all of our
residential treatment programs
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after we've improved the
brain chemistry so that they can
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analyze their thoughts.
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Can you give me an example of
the cognitive behavior therapy,
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how people can change their
thinking and their thoughts or
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analyze them?
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Ah yes, well there's 10
different ways of distorted
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thinking and one of them that is
common, in fact all of them are
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common in depressed individuals,
but one would be called a mental
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filter. This is where you're
only looking at one side of
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life. Now I had a gentleman just
in the last program that came to
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that told me that everything
was going wrong in his life.
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His wife was nagging, his boss
was yelling at him, his finances
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going down, his roof was leaking
bills piling up, he was short
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and fat, furthermore, he was
going bald. And you know when
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I talked to him I recognized
that even though he was short
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and fat he could still walk,
he could still feed himself, he
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could still breathe well, he
actually enjoyed his children,
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he enjoyed his church. You know,
he had the potential to do a lot
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of good things. But yet he was
just looking at only one side
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of the equation. So, with
the mental filter you have to be
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intentional and forceful to look
for evidence that supports a
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different way of thinking. And
of course we help the individual
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do that.
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Then you mentioned religious
belief and how it can benefit
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be beneficial.
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Yes, actually spiritual
functioning will improve the
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frontal lobe of the brain. This
is the worship area of our brain
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so even going to worship
services can be healthy for the
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brain and if we add worship
services to good music and maybe
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an analysis of the scripture, it
can be one of great benefit as
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far as an antidepressant
is concerned. And so a lot of
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people don't recognize that
the traditional church going
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actually helps with mental
health and it's the reason why
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there've been so many studies
done on this now. Studies show
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that if you are an active church
goer and you believe in God,
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you're reading spiritual
material that you will improve
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79 percent quicker that someone
who doesn't. That's a big number
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Dr. Nedley most of the solutions
you've suggested are very
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practical. Where does medication
fit into this solution?
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Well it would depend on the
individual and their condition
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as to whether medicine would
be utilized at all for their
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depression. But it can be an
adjunct, it can be an add on.
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We need to recognize that it
has limited effects. It never
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should be the sole treatment
for depression. And as a
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physician I utilize it in select
individuals. But the goal is to
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get them off it in five or
six months, which we're able to
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easily do once we take care
of the underlying issues and use
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some of these
practical approaches that we've
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been talking about.
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If people want to get
more information, where should
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they go?
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Well we have written a
book about this. It's called
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Depression the Way Out and it
summarizes a lot of the things
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that we've been talking
about. Also our website:
00:21:30.35\00:21:33.36
depressionthewayout.com can
actually lead them to find out
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more. There are actually
throughout the world mental
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health educations programs being
run. It's selected cities at
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selected times utilizing our
material and you can find out
00:21:46.47\00:21:49.84
where one might be run in your
area as well. Or if you really
00:21:49.87\00:21:55.08
need the therapeutic program,
not just a mental health
00:21:55.11\00:21:56.88
education program, you can also
visit us to find out how to sign
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up for the actual therapeutic
program for severe depression
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or treatment
resistant depression.
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If you had one piece of advice
to give people struggling with
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depression what would that be?
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Depression should not
be tolerated as a lifelong
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condition nor should anxiety.
There is a way out of both of
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those disorders and there is
help available. Once you find
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the underlying cause, reverse
those causes, you will not only
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live a happier existence, but
a far more successful one, not
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only relationally, but
financially and physically.
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So don't wait for the
complications of depression.
00:22:40.32\00:22:45.06
Get on the pathway of
optimal mental health.
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Dr. Nedley, it's been a pleasure
to have you on our program
00:22:48.13\00:22:51.60
today. I want to thank you and
wish you all the very best in
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your future endeavors.
00:22:55.64\00:22:56.97
Thank you.
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Depression isn't new. Did
you know that many people in the
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Bible were also affected by
depression. As I said at the
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beginning of the program,
depression doesn't discriminate
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and sometimes our greatest
feelings of despair come after
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emotional victories. One example
is the prophet Elijah whose
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story is told in I Kings
chapter 18. He had a wonderful
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experience where God used
him to perform a miracle, but in
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chapter 19, the very
next chapter, he was weary,
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discouraged and fearing for his
life. But Elijah's story has a
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happy ending. You see, God
was able to speak to him and
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motivate him once more. God
reminded him that his life had a
00:23:42.38\00:23:46.69
purpose and when Elijah
felt alone, God was still there.
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We too can take comfort from
Elijah's story and know that
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when we experience dark moments,
when we feel at our lowest and
00:23:56.33\00:24:00.87
when we think we're alone God
is there. God still loves us and
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he still cares. Let's instill
that in our minds right now as
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we pray.
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Dear Heavenly Father, sometimes
we feel sad and empty inside.
00:24:13.48\00:24:18.85
We are thankful that we are
never truly alone even when we
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feel lonely, you are there.
We know you love us and care for
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us. In Jesus' name, Amen.
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Depression is the leading cause
of disability worldwide. It's
00:24:32.20\00:24:38.71
estimated that in any one year
around one million Australian
00:24:38.74\00:24:42.98
adults will have depression.
Studies have shown links between
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depression and serious health
problems such as obesity, cancer
00:24:48.52\00:24:52.39
and cardiovascular disease.
How can you tell whether you or
00:24:52.42\00:24:57.83
someone you know is depressed?
What factors can cause or
00:24:57.86\00:25:02.56
contribute to depression? And
once you know what the causes
00:25:02.60\00:25:05.87
are can you do anything about
them? Well these are important
00:25:05.90\00:25:11.97
questions and they deserve
answers. You can find those
00:25:12.01\00:25:15.64
answers in this book,
Dr. Nedley' s Hit Hypothesis.
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Now according to Dr. Nedley,
there are over 100 different
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causes of depression that can be
summarized in just 10 categories
00:25:24.69\00:25:29.42
and there's good news, eight of
those categories are completely
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reversible. Perhaps you don't
have depression but know someone
00:25:34.53\00:25:38.97
who does. Either way, this
information needs to be shared.
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