Most people remember
Abraham Lincoln as the
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American President who ended
slavery in the United States.
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What many don't know is
that Lincoln suffered from
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profound melancholy, or
what today would be called
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major depression He was prone
to mood swings, breakdowns,
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and feelings of worthlessness.
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However he didn't allow
depression to keep him down.
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In fact he employed certain
strategies in order to alleviate
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his sadness. He often told
jokes and stories to improve
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his mood and found an outlet
for his feelings in reading
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reciting and composing poetry.
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In this program called
Dealing With Depression,
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our guest Dr. Neil Nedley will
suggest many practical things
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we can do to improve
our moods and make us
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healthier and happier.
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I once heard a story
about a boy named Winston
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who faced a tremendous
amount of physical and mental
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challenges. At the age of
three Winston fell off a donkey
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and suffered a brain concussion,
at eleven he developed pneumonia
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and struggled for his life.
When he was 18 he fell nearly
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ten meters, ruptured a kidney
and the healing process took
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many weeks.
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Now if that wasn't enough, he
also had a father who abused him
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verbally, telling him he
was leading an idle, useless and
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unprofitable life and that
he would deteriorate into a
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shabby, unhappy
and futile existence.
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Well, he seemed to be
proving his father right when he
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twice failed to pass the
entrance exam for the college
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he wished to attend and
he was severely depressed.
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But depression is not
the end of Winston's story,
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far from it, you
may have heard of him.
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His name was Winston Churchill.
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Winston should become Prime
Minister of the UK not just once
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but twice. He would also win
the Nobel Prize for literature
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and be the first person to
be made an honorary citizen
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of the United States.
Winston didn't let depression
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get him down and we now
remember him as one of the most
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successful war-time
leaders during the 20th century.
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Depression doesn't have to
be the end of your story either
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our guest Dr. Neil
Nedley is here to share with us
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many practical and helpful
ways in which we can deal
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with depression. He's a
fulltime practicing physician in
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Internal Medicine with
emphasis in Gastroenterology,
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Mental Health, and
Lifestyle Medicine.
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He's also the author of books
such as "Depression the Way Out"
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and "The Lost Art of Thinking."
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Dr. Nedley, welcome to Australia
and we're delighted to have you
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on our program today.
Thank you, glad to be here.
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We're talking about depression,
how big an issue is depression
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in today's world?
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Some have
described it as an epidemic.
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Actually there are each
successive generation since 1915
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has had more depression.
And now it's so common that it's
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the number one cause
of disability worldwide.
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People are more likely to miss
work in their productive years
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of their life due to this
illness than any other illness
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by far actually the
second leading cause is way down
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the list as far as numbers.
And so we are dealing with
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a massive issue and it's
in every country in the world.
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What actually is
it? What is depression?
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Major depression, sometimes we
call it endogenous depression.
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It actually requires five of
nine symptoms to be diagnosed.
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This is how every psychiatrist,
psychologist in the world
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will diagnose it, it is
based on the DSM5 criteria,
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the psychiatric bible.
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And most people when they think
of depression think of symptom
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number one which is Deep
Sadness. However, you would also
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qualify for symptom
number one if you're not sad but
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if you have emptiness. You don't
have to have these symptoms
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all the time, just the majority
of the time for two weeks
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to qualify for all nine,
so if you're happy one day
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and sad another but sad the
majority of the time for two
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weeks or emptiness then
that would qualify for symptom
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number one. Symptom number two.
Apathy-This is when you wake up
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in the morning and you
are not excited about the day.
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You wake up and get up
out of a sense of duty and
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responsibility but you actually
start losing interest in things
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that you used to enjoy. That's
distinctly abnormal particularly
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if it's occurring
the majority of the time
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and that would be
symptom number two.
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Symptom number three are.
Weight or Appetite Changes.
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This is...The most common is
weight gain...One of the reasons
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why Australians and New
Zealanders starting to gain
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weight actually has to do with
the rates of depression going
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up. Many people self-medicate
particularly with sugary foods
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for this condition. And
it does make them feel better
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but of course, it
complicates things.
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But if the depression is sudden
onset and severe, then you get
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anorexia and weight
loss loss of appetite.
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Fourth symptom. Agitation.
This is where the person is more
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irritable than they used to
be and sometimes they may need
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to get help from others to
ask them. Am I more irritable
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then I used to be? A lot of
times people don't recognize
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this them self and a close
one will say, oh yeah you're
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much more irritable than you
used to be. And so that would
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be the fourth symptom. Fifth
symptom are Sleep Disturbances.
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Now with sleep disturbances
it can go either way
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either lack of
sleep, common is insomnia,
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not being able to go to sleep.
Or hypersomnia where you're
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sleeping too much. We have
individuals that come to our
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residential treatment program
for depression they're sleeping
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18/20 hours a day,
wanting to sleep all the time,
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barely awake long enough
to survive to get enough food
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in them. But the most
common sleep disturbance is
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early morning awakening. This
is where the individual goes
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to sleep but then they wake
up too early and can't get back
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to sleep and as the
depression becomes more sever
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the earlier they awaken. So they
might start eventually awakening
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one or two and they are not
supposed to be up until six.
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Sixth symptom is
Lack of Concentration.
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This is where when they're
reading a book, they get to
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the bottom of the page
and they can't remember
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what they read at
the top of the page.
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And they might even have trouble
tracking a program such as this
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by the end of it, you
know, kind of losing track where
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things are at. That's a
significant issue and one that's
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pretty common in
those with depression.
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Seventh as it gets more severe,
Feelings of Worthlessness.
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Then eighth, Morbid Thoughts.
This is not just thinking
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of ending your own life,
or maybe homicidal thoughts
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that would be morbid...but
just preoccupation with death
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death and symbols of death.
And then the ninth symptom
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is Fatigue. That's different
than apathy, we talked about how
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when you wake up in the morning
you may not be interested
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in the day. Fatigue is
you don't have the energy,
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you may wake up without energy
or might run out of energy
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too quick. And if any of those
symptoms lasts the majority
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of the time for two weeks,
and you don't have to have
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all of them, just five of
nine that's major depression.
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Two of nine, minor depression
and it's taught to me in the
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variant of normal to
have one of those nine.
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You mentioned that one of
those first signs is sadness,
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you mentioned sadness...Does
that mean that everyone who is
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sad or down is depressed?
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Well, that's a good question
and the answer to that is No
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because you can be sad for
a good reason and not have any
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of those other symptoms.
But if you are sad even after a
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loss, you know, a
disappointing loss in your life,
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and you have five of nine
symptoms, then that would be
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not just sadness
that would be depression.
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The other flip side of
that is you can have depression
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and not be sad.
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You might just have the apathy
or you might have emptiness
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or lack of concentration
in those other symptoms.
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And so a lot of people actually
don't recognize they have
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depression because they
don't have necessarily the deep
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sadness or the crying spells.
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What are the
effects of depression?
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The effects are many. Depression
would be bad enough if it just
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did those things, but
unfortunately it does a lot more
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it actually Increases the
Risk of Mortality significantly.
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It increases the risk of
stroke, increases the risk of
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Heart Attack, particularly
in those who have had
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Coronary Artery Disease.
It increases the risk of death
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from cancer, it increases the
risk of death from Pneumonia,
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and it also increases the
risk of death from Suicide.
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And suicide has become
far to common in our society
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and the number one
cause of that is depression.
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We know that depression
affects people right across the
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spectrum. Leaders in
society even champion young
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sports people. Everyone is
prone so there are some people
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that think, hey, I've never
had this, I don't understand it
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I'll never get it, not true.
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You have enough underlying
causes and any brain will
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actually begin
to suffer from it.
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Are there other
affects, financial for example?
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Yes there are,
significant financial affects,
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in fact studies have
shown that you lose if you're in
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your career years, you
will loose $10,400 per year
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of personal income on average
than if you were not depressed.
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And the toll on the
family, if someone puts up with
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depression their whole
life and never gets it solved,
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the financial toll on that
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and that is very significant.
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I'd say. It's great that you
are hosting a program like this
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because many people think
they have to put up with these
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symptoms for life but
there is a solution and
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they don't have to. And it's
worth investing in the solution
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because it will be the
best investment they can make.
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How does depression
affect people regarding their
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relationships, family,
work relationships and so forth?
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It does have significant social
effects, in fact, everyone
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with depression has
a social complication.
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In other words, it will
adversely affect relationships.
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There are challenges in a
relationship if you are married
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to someone with depression,
obviously there are challenges
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particularly if they are
more irritable or more withdrawn
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or they have the apathy, there's
going to be effects on the kids,
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there's going to be
affects on workmates as well.
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So Dr. Nedley is there
hope for anyone suffering
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with depression?
Absolutely, tremendous hope,
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there is a solution for
this disease but the solution
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but the solution depends
on the causes that are active
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in the individual. And there
are many different causes of
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depression, in fact, is
our contribution to research.
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We publish a Peer Review Article
called The Nedley Hypothesis.
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In the American Journal of
Lifestyle Medicine it goes into
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over a hundred causes of
depression but we can categorize
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them 10 different ways
and what our research shows
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is once you get four categories
of causes, you're going to have
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depression, but out of those
10 categories, eight of them
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are completely reversible.
And so that means there is hope
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for everyone with depression
because if we can reverse
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eight out of 10, even
if you have two causes,
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that's not enough. The brain
is resilient enough to handle
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two, but it can't
handle four or more.
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So, we need to find
out what these causes are.
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Yes, exactly, well one of
the most commonly known causes
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is the Genetic cause. But the
genetic cause is not prevalent
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in most people
with major depression.
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In a lot of people unfortunately
have been told that they have
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been born with this chemical
imbalance and thus they have to
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take these drugs for
the rest of their life
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They may not have a genetic
hit at all, but even if they do
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have a genetic hit they actually
will not experience depression
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if they don't have
other causes on board.
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But we do need to recognize
genetic flaws can increase the
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risk and that is
one of the categories.
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Second category has to
do with how we're raised.
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If we're raised with
trauma, abuse, in an unloving,
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unacceptable environment, that
has actually scarred our brain
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to an extent, not enough
to cause depression on its own
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even with genetics, but it's
enough to cause two categories
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hits and then you only
need two more and then you will
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experience depression...Now
those first two are the ones
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that we can't reverse. The third
category of causes are lifestyle
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causes. This has to do
whether you are on a regular
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exercise program, physical
exercise and physical fitness
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helps the brain. And if we
are not fit, we're not only
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adversely affecting our bodies,
we're adversely affecting our
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brains. In addition, there
is another type of physical
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exercise, exercising with
our hands has been show to help,
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not only not only
treat depression but help us
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resist it and so doing something
repetitively like washing dishes
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for 20 or 30 minutes
a day can be helpful.
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The other lifestyle factors
have to do with getting enough
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bright light, being out in
the sunlight for instance helps
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at least 30 minutes a day
and then having fresh air.
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The fourth category has to
do with our sleep/wake cycles.
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Our regularity and many people
depression are all over the map
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as far as their regularity
it helps us to be on a regular
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schedule. In particular,
early to bed, early to rise
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has another
benefit with the brain.
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Fifth, addiction hits.
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And it doesn't matter
what the addiction is,
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whether it's alcohol, whether
it's even caffeine which can
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play a role, whether it's
non- substances like pornography
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or gambling, these types of
things actually adversely affect
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our brain chemistry. The
sixth one are nutrition hits.
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And this is an area Gary that
a lot of people don't recognize.
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What we put into our body,
actually does get turned into
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neuro-transmitters, it's very
important for our mental health.
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And many people have told
me when they come for treatment
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and for depression that I'm the
first one that ever asked them
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about what they're eating and
of course that can produce some
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significant benefit once we
alter that in a positive way.
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What should we be eating?
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Well, we should be eating foods
that have enough Tryptophan,
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Tryptophan is the least abundant
amino acid that gets turned into
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Serotonin in the brain. We
also should be eating foods with
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enough Tyrosine and also to
get the Tyrosine into the brain.
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So these are sub-nutrients we
call them amino acids critically
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important for brain chemistry.
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We also need the Omega 3 fatty
acids and it's better to stay
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away from some foods
like the arachidonic acids.
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In general, more plant-based
diet helps with those types
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of things, but then
they're specifics as well.
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So, give us some idea as
to the good foods that help...
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Pumpkin Seeds for Tryptophan,
also gluten, what we call wheat
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meat is a source of Tryptophan.
Soy, Tofu are a good source
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of Tryptophan.
Tyrosine, it would be watermelon
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actually mustard greens,
Spirulina is a good source of
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Tyrosine. The Omega 3
foods would be things like
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Chia seeds, Flax seed, spinach
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is also a good source and
so, and these foods can make
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a very significant difference
in regards to brain chemistry.
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We've gone through now to
nutrition. Number 6, yeah.
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Number 7 are toxic hits.
And so things like mercury
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One of the disadvantages
of fish is that it's the most
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toxic laden food in our food
in our food supply and it's the
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number one source of mercury
and mercury can actually cause
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depression, lack of
concentration, drop in IQ, drop
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in our ability to manage our
emotions Eight hits are Social
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hits. Now not everyone with
depression has a social cause.
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Everyone has a
social complication,
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we talked about that earlier
but having a social cause
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indication might be if you're
living in an isolated social
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atmosphere. That could certainly
be an indication but there's
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other social cause as
well, significant stress,
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those type of
things can play its role.
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Ninth are medical conditions.
Like a thyroid condition,
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or maybe post-traumatic head
injury, that would be a medical
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condition that causes
inflammation of the brain.
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And then the 10th
would be frontal lobe.
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This has to do with
the front part of our brain
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which is the area that is
spirituality, morality, and
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that will play a role.
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And in the last 15 years through
spec-scans and other scans-
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we have found out that's one
characteristic that is present
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virtually in every depressed
individual is a drop-in
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circulation and activity of
the frontal lobe of the brain.
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So there's certain lifestyle
issues that can help that
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for instance. Changing
our type of music can improve
00:19:02.80\00:19:06.31
the frontal lobe circulation.
00:19:06.34\00:19:08.18
Actually getting rid of rapid
scene entertainment television,
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those type of things.
And then focusing in on
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spiritual material, just
analysis of spiritual material
00:19:16.28\00:19:20.56
like reading the Bible
has been shown to be helpful.
00:19:20.59\00:19:23.12
One of the many reason
why studies show that religion
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and those that believe
and read and analyze the Bible
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will not only actually have
less depression, but if they
00:19:30.23\00:19:32.90
do get it, they have
more rapid recoveries.
00:19:32.93\00:19:35.77
Now, there is still a
stigma surrounding depression,
00:19:35.80\00:19:40.21
what's your opinion on that?
00:19:40.24\00:19:43.31
Well, it's unfortunate but many
people because of the stigma
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don't get the
help that they need.
00:19:47.78\00:19:49.45
So we need to get rid of the
stigma, recognize that all of us
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are prone to it. And, if
we get the real treatments,
00:19:53.15\00:19:56.52
not just the covering treatments
which may or may not work,
00:19:56.56\00:19:59.39
but get the real treatments
that reverse those underlying
00:19:59.43\00:20:03.87
causes, a
transformation takes place.
00:20:03.90\00:20:06.67
So, is it true that being
depressed can increase the risk
00:20:06.70\00:20:11.44
of some diseases?
00:20:11.47\00:20:13.07
Absolutely. Yeah. It
increases the risk of a number
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of conditions but particularly
asthma, chronic headaches,
00:20:19.15\00:20:26.55
migraine headaches, tension
headaches, those are often
00:20:26.59\00:20:31.79
caused by depression.
00:20:31.83\00:20:33.16
We've had so many people
come to our program and after
00:20:33.19\00:20:37.00
five days, we run a 10
day residential program,
00:20:37.03\00:20:39.83
after five days that they have
been having for years are gone
00:20:39.87\00:20:43.81
and they are throwing away
all of their headache medicine
00:20:43.84\00:20:46.64
away by the end of the program
recognizing they are not going
00:20:46.68\00:20:49.34
need it anymore. And so, it
not only can cause bad affects
00:20:49.38\00:20:54.55
increasing mortality,
but it also can cause bad
00:20:54.58\00:20:58.49
physical affects. Increased
risk of disability, physical
00:20:58.52\00:21:03.16
disabilities either whether
you end up in a nursing home
00:21:03.19\00:21:05.26
or not has more to do with
your mental health when you age
00:21:05.29\00:21:07.86
than your physical health.
00:21:07.90\00:21:09.30
Our brain affects really our
whole system and there is a lot
00:21:09.33\00:21:12.97
of conditions that we can have
even memory loss for instance
00:21:13.00\00:21:17.01
that we might think has to do
with age, might actually be due
00:21:17.04\00:21:19.47
to depression, and once
the depression is cleared up,
00:21:19.51\00:21:22.08
the memory can get better.
So there are profound multiple
00:21:22.11\00:21:26.05
effects depending on
the individual on depression
00:21:26.08\00:21:30.52
affecting them physically.
00:21:30.55\00:21:31.89
What is the most common
treatment for depression?
00:21:31.92\00:21:36.56
and how effective is it?
The most common treatment is
00:21:36.59\00:21:40.86
medicine, but it's
not very affective,
00:21:40.90\00:21:44.70
it has limited affect.
The Journal Nature Magazine
00:21:44.73\00:21:48.44
mentioned that only 13% of
individuals in the best studies
00:21:48.47\00:21:54.04
can improve their function.
Twenty percent will actually
00:21:54.08\00:21:58.51
have a significant lifting
of their bad mood and then 30%
00:21:58.55\00:22:03.28
won't get better at
all with any medicine.
00:22:03.32\00:22:07.16
They're called
treatment resistance,
00:22:07.19\00:22:09.32
you can keep increasing
the dose, adding medicine,
00:22:09.36\00:22:11.96
it's not really going to change
it, they need other treatments
00:22:11.99\00:22:15.16
obviously besides medicines.
00:22:15.20\00:22:16.73
And then those in the
middle about 50% in the middle
00:22:16.77\00:22:19.43
that improve somewhat but if you
would talk to them, they still
00:22:19.47\00:22:23.77
have significant
major depression.
00:22:23.81\00:22:25.64
So from what you are
saying should people who are
00:22:25.67\00:22:28.34
on medication
simply stop taking it?
00:22:28.38\00:22:30.88
No. Absolutely not. Before
you even think about stopping
00:22:30.91\00:22:36.18
those, you have to have
your depression reversed first.
00:22:36.22\00:22:40.79
And so, if you are on an
anti-depressant certainly don't
00:22:40.82\00:22:44.89
stop taking them. But if
you have the underlying causes
00:22:44.93\00:22:49.56
reversed, the good news
is, you'll eventually be able
00:22:49.60\00:22:52.60
to stop taking them because
you don't have the causes
00:22:52.63\00:22:54.80
on board. But again, only
do that with your physician
00:22:54.84\00:22:58.31
weaning you off in
the appropriate manner.
00:22:58.34\00:23:00.31
Dr. Nedley your book
Depression the Way Out,
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outlines the way
out of depression.
00:23:04.21\00:23:06.75
Can you tell us what that
way is? Where do we start?
00:23:06.78\00:23:09.58
Well, that's a great question
and the way out is started
00:23:09.62\00:23:17.49
finding the causes. First
acknowledging that you have it,
00:23:17.53\00:23:23.06
so you have to be diagnosed
with it for the way out
00:23:23.10\00:23:25.23
and then secondly, finding the
causes that are active in you,
00:23:25.27\00:23:30.21
and then third, getting on a
comprehensive treatment regimen
00:23:30.24\00:23:34.31
and it's going to
reverse those causes.
00:23:34.34\00:23:36.64
It's simpler than it sounds but
unfortunately in today's world
00:23:36.68\00:23:42.72
we're not using
that type of approach.
00:23:42.75\00:23:47.09
In our next program together
we're going to look at the
00:23:47.12\00:23:50.89
solutions. Yeah. And I
know that everybody interested
00:23:50.93\00:23:54.83
in this topic will want to
know what the solutions are.
00:23:54.86\00:23:58.93
Absolutely. Well, I think we've
been given some excellent tips
00:23:58.97\00:24:03.47
on how to live a
happier and healthier life.
00:24:03.51\00:24:05.87
It's not enough to
diagnose the cause of depression
00:24:05.91\00:24:09.54
we need to know how we can deal
with it and treat is as well.
00:24:09.58\00:24:13.35
Why not make a decision right
now to implement these changes
00:24:13.38\00:24:18.35
in our lives as we pray.
00:24:18.39\00:24:20.49
Dear Heavenly Father,
Thank you for your infinite
00:24:20.52\00:24:25.09
wisdom. We know that
you care about our lives
00:24:25.13\00:24:28.56
and want us to
live them to the full.
00:24:28.60\00:24:30.93
We pray that you will
help us as we try to be happier
00:24:30.97\00:24:34.94
and healthier. In
Jesus name, we pray, Amen.
00:24:34.97\00:24:39.87
Have you ever seen an Ostrich
bury his head in the sand?
00:24:39.91\00:24:46.01
Ostriches bury their head in
the sand as a defensive position
00:24:46.05\00:24:50.35
to avoid being
seen by predators.
00:24:50.39\00:24:52.72
The metaphor of
burning ones head in the sand
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is used to imply a person
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Sometimes people aren't all
that different than Ostriches.
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There is still some
stigma around depression,
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although not as much as
there used to be. Consequently,
00:25:08.60\00:25:12.17
some people would prefer to
bury their heads in the sand
00:25:12.21\00:25:15.34
and not acknowledge depression
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