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This is the most powerful
place on earth. The U.S. Capitol
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building is one of the most
recognizable buildings in the
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world and the center of American
government. The world famous
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domed building is home to
the United States House of
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Representatives and Senate. This
place has the power to shape the
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world more than anywhere
else on earth. This is where
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America's congressmen and
congresswomen meet to conduct
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business, debate laws, form
policy and pass bills on behalf
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of the American people. These
leaders possess immense power
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and influence. Their decisions
affect virtually every person
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on planet earth. Here on Capitol
Hill is a wonderfully unique man
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who provides spiritual guidance
to these leaders and keeps his
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finger on the pulse of the
nation. He's a leader among
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leaders. Brilliant and
articulate, yet humble and
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approachable, he is a force for
integrity, goodness, reason and
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compassion. So join me on a
journey along the corridors of
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power to the very heart of
Capitol Hill to meet him and
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hear a truly American story of
how a person from the hood can
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rise to the heights of the Hill
and personal and professional
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success. His story will inspire
you and encourage you and more
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than that it may even open your
windows to personal success and
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happiness, because his story is
more than inspirational. It's a
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template for true success.
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The United States of
America is the most powerful and
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influential nation the world
has ever seen. It's the world's
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foremost economic power
with it's gross domestic product
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accounting for close to a
quarter of the world total.
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America is also the world's
dominant military power with a
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budget almost as much as
the rest of the world's defense
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spending combined. America's
influence is everywhere. It's
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home to companies known all over
the world: McDonald's, Nike,
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Coca Cola, Amazon, Google,
Apple and on and on the list
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goes. Eight of the World's
top 10 companies are American.
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American culture, American
movies, American music, American
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soldiers, American food,
American customs; they're all
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encompassing. No wonder people
say there's never been a super
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power like the U.S.A. in terms
of power and influence. And all
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this has been achieved in
less that 250 years. The United
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States originated in a
revolution that separated it
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from the British crown in 1776.
The American constitution was
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drafted 11 years later in 1787
and established a federal system
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of government with a division
of powers that has remained
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virtually unchanged in form
since its inception. Now there
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are three branches in the United
States government. You see the
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founders wanted them to be
checks and balances for each
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other. They didn't want any one
group or individual to be able
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to accumulate too much power.
So the three branches are the
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Executive branch headed by the
President which enforces the law
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Then the Judicial branch
headed by the Supreme Court; it
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interprets the law and finally
the Legislative branch based in
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the congress which writes the
laws. Now the congress is based
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here on Capitol Hill and
has two parts: The House of
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Representatives or the lower
house and the Senate or the
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upper house. Now the basic role
of the House or Representatives
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is to write, vote on and
pass laws while the Senate's job
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includes approving treaties,
confirming judges and also
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producing laws. The Senate
is composed of two senators from
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each state. So with 50 states
making up the United States
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there are 100 senators. Now the
Senate is considered the more
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prestigious of the two houses
and wields immense power and
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influence. It's decisions affect
not only America but the rest
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of the world as well. Yes, we're
all affected by the decisions
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that are made here. The founding
fathers realized the huge
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responsibility resting on these
senators and so way back in 1789
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the Senate elected its first
chaplain to serve the spiritual
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needs of the country's lawmakers
and to set the tone and provide
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spiritual guidance at the
very highest level of American
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government. Barry Black is
the 62nd chaplain of the United
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States Senate and the first
African American to hold this
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office. He's a remarkable man.
He's a leader among leaders. He
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previously served in the U.S.
Navy for 27 years and was the
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Navy's Chief of Chaplains and
rose to the rank of Rear Admiral
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with many medals and decorations
before retiring from the Navy.
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He's a brilliant and articulate
man with a photographic memory.
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He's got three master's degrees
and three doctorates and yet
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he's so humble and approachable.
President Barack Obama said this
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about Barry Black:
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He opens each session of
the United States Senate with a
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prayer. He advises, counsels and
prays with senators who seek his
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advice. Barry Black is a force
for integrity, goodness, reason
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and compassion along the
corridors of power on Capitol
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Hill. Let's go and meet him.
Chaplain Black thank you for
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your invitation to the Capitol
Building and to meet in your
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office. It's a pleasure to
have you on our program today.
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I'm delighted to
be with you, Gary.
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Chaplain Black tell us a
little about your early life.
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I grew up in Baltimore,
Maryland, which is about 30
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miles from Washington, D.C.,
I grew up in the inner city.
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It was an urban challenge
actually, an asphalt jungle and
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I grew up in a neighborhood that
had a great deal of poverty and
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a great deal of pathology. There
were drug pushers, people who
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sold drugs, domestic violence
was a spectator sport; you could
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actually sit on your front steps
and see someone, I would say a
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spouse, beating another spouse
but you know there weren't a lot
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of marriage certificates in that
neighborhood and sometimes it
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was actually a woman chastising
the man in a very physical way.
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There were temptations,
allurements and it was the
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challenge of my mother to raise
eventually eight children with a
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nomadic husband who was not
around very often and to ensure
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that we received the harmonious
development of our physical,
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mental, spiritual and social
powers. She wanted to ensure
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that we had a Christian
education. My family was on
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public assistance, or as we
called it back in the 50s and
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60s, welfare. And so my mother
had to find a way of enabling my
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siblings and me to matriculate
at a Christian school which we
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all did from grade one all the
way through college and graduate
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school, although she was a
domestic on welfare who made
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only six dollars a day.
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Chaplain Black did you ever
feel inferior because of where
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you came from?
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I think that most African
Americans felt inferior because
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of the very nature of our
society at the time. You have to
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remember I was born in the 1940s
I was born before President
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Harry Truman desegregated the
armed forces. I was born at a
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time when we were called
coloreds, later Negros, then
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black then African American.
I was born at a time when we had
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a phenomenon known as colorism
where the more fair your skin
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the more favor you received.
And we had a little maxim, If
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you're yellow you're mellow,
if you're brown stick around,
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if you're white you're all right
but if you're black get back.
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So there was literally
gradations even in the African
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American community. Fortunately,
however, there was a
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transformative power
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in the word of God and I started
reading the Bible and one day
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came across the scripture
in I Peter chapter 1:18 and 19
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For we are redeemed not with
corruptible seed such as silver
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and gold but with the precious
blood of the Lamb, Jesus Christ.
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And although I was only 10 years
of age I was able to do the
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deductive reasoning that
the value of an object was based
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upon the price someone
was willing to pay and when it
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dawned on me that God had sent
his Son to die for me, no one
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was ever able to make
me feel inferior again.
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Who had the greatest influence
or impact on your life?
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Gary, the greatest impact on my
life was made by my mother. My
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mother was pregnant with me
when she was baptized and as she
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was immersed in the baptismal
pool after an evangelistic
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meeting of 12 weeks, she prayed
for the Holy Spirit to place a
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special anointing on her unborn
child. So I never had any desire
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to be anything but a minister.
My mother reminded me that I was
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like Jeremiah in Jeremiah
1:5, set apart in her womb for a
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special mission. I knew that,
but when I saw that most of the
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ministers were financially
challenged, like Jonah I fled in
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the opposite direction.
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Chaplain Black, why did you
decide to become a chaplain,
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a pastor?
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I, in the 11th grade, went away
to boarding academy for African
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Americans in Pine Forge,
Pennsylvania called Pine Forge
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Academy and the best preachers
in my denomination would come
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through for a week and preach
and teach. And one evening
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after a revival I walked outside
of the chapel in the darkness, I
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looked up at the heavens and I
saw the stars for the first time
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You don't see the stars in
the inner city. You've got the
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street lights and that kind of
thing. You don't see the stars
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like you see them in a
rural environment with no street
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lights or anything and it looked
like a fireworks display and I
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gasped and I said, Oh my God!
And I stood there before what
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seemed to me the majesty and
infinitude of the universe right
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there in that little field. And
I suddenly knew that I didn't
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know where I had come from, why
I was here and where I was going
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and I suddenly was aware of
my infinite smallness. I was
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suddenly cognizant of my frailty
the brevity of my existence. It
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seemed like I could hear
something in my spirit say Barry
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I think it's about time that
we get to know one another. And
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that was the first palpable,
experiential and visceral
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connection that I had with
the Transcendent and that was my
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Damascus road, that was my
true call to ministry. Mom had
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informed me of Him but like the
Queen of Sheba said, We've heard
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about you but now we see you and
the half has not been told. That
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God has been with me
from that time until this one.
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So how did you
end up in the Navy?
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I had a passion to work with
young people and I was pastoring
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octogenarians. I had a man
in my church that was over 100
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years old. I mean if you
averaged out the age of my
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congregation it was in the 80s,
okay. And I was in my 20s. And
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the leaders of my
denomination who appointed me to
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churches said;
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You're too young to work with
young people. You need to be 40,
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which seemed to me senior
citizen in those days. You need
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to have experience, maturity. So
I began to look at options where
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I could work with young people.
I looked at prison ministry.
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Certainly plenty of young people
there. I looked at an academic
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ministry on a university campus
as a chaplain. I looked at
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Veterans Administration,
hospital ministry and then a
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gentleman by the name of Clark
Smith called and said we are
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looking for ordained Sabbath-
keeping ministers to go into the
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military to help our young
sailors, soldiers, marines who
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are having difficulty keeping
Sabbath. It was my cup of tea.
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No if, ands and buts about it.
It was a protracted honeymoon.
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I spent 27 years in the Navy
and my worst day was a good day.
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And I discovered that God
delights in his people taking
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judicious risks. Peter says in
Matthew 14:28, Lord if it's you
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bid me come and walk with you on
water. In other words, Lord if
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it's you bid me do the
impossible and Jesus says Come.
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So he has a sense of humor
and he likes for us to take
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judicious risks. So when
you step out of the boat at his
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bidding you'll walk on water.
And it may be some little,
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sinking but you'll walk on
water. So, that's my story and
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I'm sticking to it.
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So how did you become the senate
chaplain of the United States?
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I became the 62nd chaplain
of the United States Senate when
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the incumbent, Dr.
Lloyd John Ogilvie decided to
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step down. An eight
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member selection committee then
interviewed scores of chaplains
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because each Senator, we have
100 Senators, was permitted to
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nominate a minister, priest,
rabbi, imam to be interviewed
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for the job and I was nominated
by a member of the armed
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services committee and
went through the first interview
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where they winnowed down the
number to 10. The 10 were then
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interviewed a second time and
then they winnowed that down to
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two and then the two finalists
were interviewed by the Senate
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Majority Leader who then made a
decision as to which of the two
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would receive the appointment.
So it was a very thorough
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vetting and an amazing and
wonderful honor to be selected.
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And I'm going into my 16th
year now so, time has flown.
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What is your role and
responsibilities as Chaplain of
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the Senate of the United States?
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Well each day when the Senate
convenes it is opened with an
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invocation and prayer from the
chaplain. That has been going on
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since 1789, uninterrupted prayer
and it is probably the most
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visible part of what I do, just
the tip of the ice berg. Gary,
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my role and my responsibilities
as the Chaplain of the United
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States Senate can probably
be summed up in the simple
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statement that I am a pastor
to about 7000 people who make up
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the senate side of Capitol Hill.
So, I literally an pastoring a
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mega church without an
associate. I do four Bible
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studies every week, one just
for the senators, one for the
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chiefs of staff, the brains
of the senators and then two
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plenary, anyone who wants to
come, Capitol Police, janitors,
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chefs, you name it. They're
all there for the plenary Bible
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studies. I do a spiritual
mentoring class. Every week I
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meet with our law makers
for a prayer breakfast. I do
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counseling, I have a Ph.D.
in psychology, I officiate at
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weddings, I officiate at
funerals and memorial services.
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I do work space visitation, I do
hospital visitation. So it's a
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wonderful opportunity to
be a pastor for 7000 people.
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Looking back over your life,
do you think that God had a plan
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for you?
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Well I know God has a
plan for every life, Gary.
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In Jeremiah 29:11, he says, I
know the plans that I have for
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your life. (indistinct) I give
you a window into my mind, into
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my omniscience. My plan is to
prosper you, and I'm going to be
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a poor preacher. My plan is to
give you a future. My plan is to
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give you a hope. My plan is
to bring you to an expected end.
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When I was eight years of age,
my mother brought home the only
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record anyone ever gave her,
the only record she ever brought
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home, that she was given. And
the record said, the morning sun
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had been up for some hours
over the city of David. He's not
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from around here. Pilgrims and
visitors were pouring in through
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the gates mingling with _
from villages round about.
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from the hills and the narrow
streets were crowded. I played
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it repeatedly until I'd
memorized it. It was the record
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of the sermons of Peter Marshall
the 57th Chaplain of the United
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States Senate. When I wrote my
autobiography, From the Hood to
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the Hill, the editors from
Thomas Nelson who published it
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said, We love what you've
written. Our only question is,
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Okay, well that's good, it's
nonfiction. They said because it
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this fiction or nonfiction.
(chuckles) I said it's an
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autobiography. Okay well that's
good, it's nonfiction. They said
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because it
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would strain credulity that
an African American child in the
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toxic pathology of the inner
city would listen repeatedly to
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a sermon record by the 57th
Chaplain of the United States
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Senate, then grow up to
become the only African American
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Admiral in the history of
the United States Navy Chaplain
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Corporation and before
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he can retire he is
appointed the 62nd chaplain
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of the United States Senate,
a successor to Marshall, and by
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the way, the only one of African
heritage who's ever had the
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job as well, or the only career
military officer whose ever
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had... It would strain credulity
but since it actually happened
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I guess we can run with it. So,
God has a plan and as you can
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see from the view in this office
he has definitely led me to a
00:22:15.96\00:22:19.53
desired destination
and to an expected end.
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Chaplain Black what message from
Capitol Hill would you like to
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share with our audience?
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One of the great Americans who
has a monument on the Washington
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D.C. mall put it this way.
We shall overcome, making much
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out of little, because the arch
of the moral universe is long
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but it bends toward justice.
We can make much out of little
00:22:46.26\00:22:52.13
because Carlisle is right,
No lie can live forever. We can
00:22:52.17\00:22:55.64
make much out of little because
William Cullen Bryant is right,
00:22:55.67\00:22:59.97
Truth crushed to earth
will rise again. We can make
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much out of little because James
Russell Lowell is right, Truth
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forever on the scaffold, wrong
forever on the throne, yet that
00:23:08.72\00:23:13.39
scaffold sways the future and
behind the dim unknown standeth
00:23:13.42\00:23:19.39
God within the shadows
keeping watch above his own.
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And as you make much out little,
like that little boy's lunch
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placed in the hands of the
Savior. Galatians 6:9, Do not
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become weary in well doing for
in due season you will reap if
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you faint not.
00:23:41.82\00:23:44.29
Chaplain Black you pray for
some of the most powerful and
00:23:44.32\00:23:49.66
influential people on the planet
Would you please offer a prayer
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for our audience today.
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Well I'd love to do that, Gary.
What I would like to do is to
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offer a prayer that I put at the
end of my book, From the Hood
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to the Hill, that has been
attributed to Sir Francis Drake.
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So let's pray:
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We pray in your
Sovereign name Amen.
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Chaplain Barry Black's story
is certainly encouraging and
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inspiring. He shows we can over
come the challenges of life even
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in a high pressure environment.
He shows how a person of modest
00:25:52.98\00:25:56.99
beginnings can rise to heights
of personal and professional
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success and he did it by
remaining faithful to his values
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and principles and above all
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the ultimate destination of
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