3ABN Today Bible Q&A

Is It Okay to Pray for a Dead Loved One's Salvation?

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00:01 Music...
01:06 Greg: Hello and welcome to another 3ABN Today
01:08 Bible Q and A Program,
01:10 we're so glad that you joined us today
01:12 and we look forward to spending these one hours with you
01:14 each Monday as we go to the Word of God
01:17 and find answers from His Word.
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01:25 your Ministry...
01:26 God's Ministry... 3ABN
01:28 as we endeavor to reach the world with the gospel...
01:31 with hope... with encouragement.
01:32 You know, I think about what's going on in this world
01:34 and that there's so much...
01:35 it seems like there's so much negativity
01:37 but there's also so much positivity, right,
01:39 that also can be found in the midst of this world
01:42 that can be discouraging
01:44 and I tell you, one place to find encouragement and hope...
01:47 the ultimate place, right, is the Word of God
01:49 so, we just appreciate these Programs...
01:52 we appreciate that you're sending in your questions.
01:55 It kind of is a way for us to interact with you
01:59 and today, I'm joined on the Set by...
02:01 with Pastor James Rafferty, good to have you with us, Sir.
02:04 James: Good to be here, Greg, as always.
02:05 Greg: You're doing all right today?
02:07 James: Doing fantastic.
02:08 Greg: Ready to open the Word of God?
02:10 James: Ready to go... ready to go.
02:11 Greg: Some good questions have been submitted.
02:13 James: Yes simple questions, yes, definitely.
02:15 Greg: Sitting next to you, Pastor Ryan Day,
02:16 good to have you here.
02:18 Ryan: Always a blessing to be on the Program... I'm excited.
02:20 Greg: Amen... you always have a smile.
02:22 Ryan: Always.
02:24 Greg: Sitting next to you, Sister Shelley Quinn,
02:25 good to have you here on the first Today too.
02:26 Shelley: Thank you, it's such a joy to actually take the time
02:30 to study out these questions
02:32 because we learn as we do it as well.
02:34 Greg: Hmmm... hmmm... yeah we encourage you at home,
02:36 thank you Shelley for bringing that up...
02:38 is that we want you to study along with us,
02:40 so, get... if you have a seat belt...
02:42 do you have a seat belt in your chair in your living room?
02:44 I don't know... this is a fast-paced Program.
02:46 You may want to buckle that seat belt...
02:48 grab your pen... grab a piece of paper
02:50 maybe a notebook and your Bible
02:52 and study along with us.
02:54 It's... it's always great fun... it's a rapid-paced Program
02:57 and I like to say, I'm joined by Bible loving
03:00 Bible-believing... Bible teaching...
03:02 Bible students and that's here on the Set
03:04 but, you know what? That's you too
03:06 because we know that you enjoy studying God's Word.
03:09 Now, if you're like, "Wow! how do I submit a question
03:11 or comment to this... to this Program?
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03:34 Instagram... and we actually have a question today
03:37 that's been submitted from Instagram,
03:38 and you can submit that through @3abn_official
03:42 that's @3abn_official
03:46 So, without further ado, let's get in
03:48 but before we do that, let's open with a word of prayer.
03:51 "Father in heaven, Lord, we're so grateful for Your love,
03:53 Your compassion...
03:55 Lord, for Your care for each one of us.
03:57 Thank You that we can open Your Word, Father,
04:01 for in Your Word we will find truth
04:04 and Lord, we want to study
04:05 to show ourselves approved unto You
04:08 and so, Father, we're just grateful today
04:10 that we have the privilege and the freedom to open Your Word.
04:13 We thank You and in Jesus' name we pray,
04:14 amen. "
04:16 Panel: Amen... amen.
04:17 Greg: Well, Pastor James, let's start with you.
04:19 James: Okay.
04:20 Greg: Good question here and this is one from Instagram,
04:23 we mentioned that just a moment ago.
04:25 So, Cyndi submits this question:
04:27 Would the Bible Q and A Panel
04:29 please break down the age of Moses
04:31 in comparison with the phases of his ministry
04:35 to the children of Israel, please?
04:36 I'm confused about how long they wandered in the wilderness.
04:39 Was Moses 40 years old when he left Egypt...
04:42 spent 40 years in Midian
04:44 and 40 years in the wilderness or 80 years in the wilderness?
04:47 I ask because they failed with the ten spies
04:51 and had to go back to the wilderness
04:53 and then went back after that generation died.
04:56 I just get confused with the timeline.
04:58 Please explain.
05:00 James: Great question, Cyndi from Instagram.
05:04 Yes, so, Moses yes was 40 years in Egypt...
05:08 40 years in Midian
05:09 and 40 years in the wilderness
05:11 and then laid to rest by the hand of God.
05:14 That's the basic simple answer to the question.
05:17 I have three and a half more minutes
05:19 so, I'm going to give you a little bit more... all right.
05:21 Panel: Laughter.
05:23 James: The New Testament actually gives us
05:25 the clearest answer to this believe it or not...
05:27 I was looking for the answers for this in Exodus
05:30 and then I found something in the New Testament
05:33 in the book of Acts
05:34 and I thought we'll just read the verses, Acts chapter 7
05:37 is where we're going to be looking
05:39 beginning with verse 20, right.
05:41 Stephen here is speaking...
05:43 he's kind of giving us the summary
05:45 of the history of God's people leading up to his death.
05:48 He's summarizing their history
05:50 because probation is about to close
05:52 for the Nation of Israel as a nation
05:54 and so, God is kind of using Stephen to summarize
05:58 all that he has done to lead them to accept Christ as Messiah
06:02 and in the context of this summary of history
06:04 verse 20 picks up with Paul... I mean, excuse me, with Moses.
06:07 "In which time Moses was born,
06:09 and was exceedingly fair,
06:11 and nourished up in his father's house three months... "
06:13 verse 21,
06:15 "And when he was cast out, Pharaoh's daughter took him
06:17 and so nourished him as her own son. "
06:19 Verse 22,
06:20 "And Moses was learned in all the wisdom of the Egyptians,
06:23 and was mighty in words and in deeds. "
06:25 Verse 23, "And when he was fully forty years old... "
06:28 so, he's in Egypt...
06:29 as an Egyptian... raised as an Egyptian...
06:32 he comes to the age of 40 years old in the past
06:34 excuse me... "And it came into his heart to visit his brethren
06:38 the children of Israel.
06:39 And seeing one of them suffering wrong, he defended him,
06:41 and avenged him... him that was oppressed,
06:44 and smote the Egyptian. "
06:45 Verse 25,
06:47 "For he supposed his brethren would have understood
06:48 how that God by his hand would deliver them:
06:51 but they understood not. "
06:52 Verse 26, "The next day he shewed himself unto them
06:55 as they strove, and would have set them at one again, saying,
06:57 'Sirs, you are brethren;
06:59 why do ye wrong to one another?'"
07:00 Verse 27, "But he that did his neighbor wrong
07:03 thrust him away, saying,
07:04 'Who made thee a ruler and a judge over us?"
07:06 Verse 28, "Wilt thou kill me,
07:09 as thou didst the Egyptian yesterday?"
07:12 Verse 29, "Then Moses at this saying,
07:15 Moses fled at this saying
07:17 and was in... was a stranger in the land of Midian,
07:20 where he begat two sons. "
07:21 So, he's in Egypt for 40 years...
07:23 and then as he comes to assist his brethren
07:27 and ends up killing the Egyptian,
07:28 and he's discovered... he takes off
07:30 and he's in the land of Midian where he has two sons
07:34 and then, verse 30 says,
07:35 "And when forty years were expired,
07:37 there appeared to him in the wilderness on the Mount Sinai
07:40 and angel of the Lord in a flame...
07:42 in a flame of fire in the bush. "
07:43 So, there's another 40 years...
07:45 you got your first 40 in Egypt,
07:47 then you got the second 40 at Midian.
07:48 Verse 31, "When Moses saw it, he wondered at the sight:
07:52 and as he drew near to behold it,
07:54 the voice of the Lord came unto him, saying,
07:56 'And I am the God of thy fathers,
07:58 the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac,
08:00 and the God of Jacob. "
08:01 Then Moses trembled, and durst not behold.
08:04 And then said the Lord unto him,
08:06 'Put off they shoes from off thy feet:
08:08 for the place wherein I stand is holy ground.
08:10 I have seen... '" verse 34,
08:12 "I have seen the affliction of my people which is in Egypt,
08:14 and I have heard their groaning
08:16 and am come down to deliver them.
08:17 And now come, I will send thee unto Egypt. "
08:21 And verse 35, so...
08:23 "This Moses they refused saying,
08:24 'who made thee a ruler and a judge?'
08:26 the same God did send to be a ruler and a deliverer
08:29 by the hand of the angel which appeared to him in the bush. "
08:31 Verse 36, "Then He brought them out,
08:33 after that, he had showed wonders and signs in the land of Egypt,
08:36 and in the Red sea, and in the wilderness forty years. "
08:39 So, there is the last 40 years, Cyndi,
08:41 you've got the 40 years in Egypt,
08:42 you got the 40 years in Midian
08:44 and then you've got the 40 years in the wilderness
08:46 and so, the Bible tells us that Moses was fourscore
08:50 or 80 years old when he went back to Egypt
08:52 to deliver God's people... that's Exodus 7 verse 7
08:55 and then the Bible says that Moses was a 120 years old
08:58 when he died
08:59 his eyes weren't dim, nor his natural force abated. "
09:02 That was Deuteronomy 34 verse 7.
09:05 That's all the verses... lays it out.
09:07 Greg: Amen, excellent, thank you so much, Pastor James.
09:10 Pastor Ryan, good question here, this one also comes from Sindy,
09:15 a different spelling. Ryan: Okay.
09:16 Greg: But hers is with an "S" but the question here:
09:19 At the second coming of our Lord Jesus,
09:22 the wicked are asking for the rocks to fall on them.
09:25 What eventually happens to them?
09:27 Do they go back to the grave and await their Master
09:30 who after a 1,000 years comes out
09:32 and tries to take the New Jerusalem?
09:34 Ryan: Okay, so the simple answer to this
09:36 is that they're destroyed... okay,
09:38 I'm going to back that up with Scripture now.
09:39 This is what Jesus is referencing
09:40 in both Matthew 24 and Luke chapter 17.
09:44 I'm not going to read all the verses in Matthew 24
09:46 but for the sake of time, I'm going to start in Luke 17
09:49 and we're going to read verses 26 through 30.
09:51 Notice what it says here, it says,
09:52 "As in the days of Noah,
09:54 so shall also in the days of the Son of Man:
09:57 They did eat, they drank, they married wives,
10:00 they were given in marriage,
10:01 until the day Noah entered the ark,
10:02 and the flood came... " notice...
10:04 "and... " what did it say?
10:05 "destroyed them all. "
10:07 This is speaking of the wicked, right,
10:08 "Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot,
10:10 they ate, they drank, they bought, they sold,
10:12 they planted, they builded
10:14 but the same day that Lot went out of Sodom
10:16 it rained fire and brimstone from heaven... "
10:18 and... there it is again...
10:20 "the wicked... it destroyed them all.
10:21 Even so shall it be when the Son of Man is revealed. "
10:25 So, these men that are crying for the rocks to fall on them,
10:28 this is within the context of... of Revelation chapter 6
10:31 in the sixth seal... the second coming of Jesus.
10:33 They're calling for the rocks to fall on them
10:35 because they are ashamed of the fact
10:36 that they rejected Jesus Christ
10:38 and now they're meeting their ultimate demise
10:41 which is... their life is being taken from them.
10:43 Now, it's interesting... Luke 17 passed this
10:45 when you read verses 34 to 37...
10:47 still within the context of this destruction of the wicked,
10:50 Jesus goes on to say...
10:51 you know, there will be two men in one bed...
10:53 one will be taken... one will be left...
10:54 there will be two women grinding together,
10:56 one will be taken... one will be left.
10:57 There will be two men in one field...
10:58 one will be left... one will be taken
11:00 and then the disciples ask this interesting question,
11:01 they say, "Where Lord?"
11:02 And, of course, they're referencing
11:04 where are those taken
11:05 and those people that are taken
11:07 is that their lives are being taken.
11:09 We know that because of Jesus' response.
11:11 In verse 37, He goes on to say,
11:14 "Where the body is,
11:15 there will the eagles be gathered together. "
11:17 Now, if you look at verse 28 in Matthew 24
11:20 which is the equivalent verse,
11:21 Jesus actually says, "For wheresoever the carcass is,
11:25 there will the eagles be gathered together. "
11:26 What's a carcass?
11:27 A carcass is obviously a dead body
11:29 so, what's happening at the second coming of Jesus
11:31 when these men in those moments...
11:33 in those fearful horrific moments
11:35 when they're realizing what is happening...
11:37 that they didn't give their life to Jesus
11:38 that they did not serve Him and abide in Him in their life,
11:41 they're realizing what's happening
11:43 and they would just the rocks crush them
11:44 than have to face the Lamb of God
11:47 who's returning to get them.
11:48 And so, that's why in 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2,
11:51 Paul, writing again about the second coming of Jesus
11:54 and the redemption of God's people...
11:55 in verse 8, he says there,
11:57 this is 2nd Thessalonians 2 verse 8,
11:59 "And then shall that wicked be revealed,
12:00 whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth,
12:03 and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming. "
12:06 We see this within the context of the seventh and final plague
12:09 there in Revelation chapter 16 where it says that
12:12 there in verse 21, it says,
12:13 "And there fell upon men great hail out of heaven,
12:15 every stone about the weight of a talent:
12:17 and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail;
12:19 for the plague thereof was exceedingly great. "
12:21 This is destruction... there are many, many texts,
12:24 go read Isaiah chapter 24... Jeremiah chapter 4...
12:27 talking about the return of the Lord,
12:29 the wicked did not go on to live
12:31 as some might believe for seven years of tribulation,
12:34 but rather, they're destroyed at the second coming of Jesus.
12:36 Greg: Hmmm... amen... thank you very much, Pastor Ryan.
12:39 Shelley, this question/comment comes from Patricia
12:42 from New York
12:44 and it really is a tragic... tragic question.
12:46 It says, "My son suddenly passed away two years ago
12:50 and it's been devastating.
12:52 I'm very worried about his salvation
12:54 and so I pray to God to have mercy on him.
12:56 In Exodus chapter 33 verse 19, the Lord said...
13:00 and this is God speaking...
13:01 "I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy. "
13:05 My nephew goes to a Pentecost church
13:07 and claims to speak in tongues
13:09 and said that to... and said to me
13:11 that when people die, they go to heaven or hell right away
13:13 and that me praying for my son is equal to doing witchcraft.
13:17 I disagree
13:19 but is there anything you can tell me about it?
13:22 Panel: Hmmm... hmmm...
13:23 Shelley: Patricia, first I just want to say...
13:25 my heart breaks for you.
13:26 I can't imagine anything worse than losing a child
13:29 and the grief that follows that.
13:31 But I hope you have a pen and a paper
13:33 because the answer I am going to give you...
13:35 I want you to write all these Scripture references down
13:39 so that you can look them up
13:40 and be assured it's a Biblical answer.
13:42 In Exodus 33:19 God says,
13:45 "I'll have mercy on whom I'll have mercy. "
13:47 You have to look in context...
13:49 He is speaking to a people who have broken His covenant
13:52 and... and they're no longer in relationship with God
13:55 but He forgives them
13:57 and when He does it's still...
13:59 when He renews the relationship
14:02 it's still requiring the same conditions
14:05 and obedience as before
14:07 and He still asked them to obey his covenant law.
14:12 Now, let me say something,
14:13 I don't believe your nephew's opinion is Scriptural at all.
14:18 Here is the Scriptures I want you to write down:
14:22 in 1st Timothy 6:16 the Bible says,
14:25 "God alone has immortality right now. "
14:29 1st John 5:11 and 12, it's talking about
14:33 that God has given eternal life to those who have the Son.
14:38 If you are in Christ, it says, "He who has the Son has life,
14:44 he who does not have the Son does not have life. "
14:48 So, it's something that we secure during our earthly life,
14:52 but we fully realize after the resurrection.
14:55 1st Corinthians 15:51 through 54 explains
14:58 that when Christ returns at the sound of the trumpet,
15:03 that's when we put on immortality if we are a believer
15:08 as we come up in the first resurrection
15:11 and John chapter 5 verses 28 and 29,
15:14 Jesus said, "Don't marvel at this,
15:17 there's a day that is coming
15:18 that all who are in their grave will hear His voice.
15:22 Some will come forward to the resurrection of life.
15:25 Others come forward to the resurrection of condemnation.
15:30 Those are separated by a 1,000 years.
15:33 Ecclesiastes chapter 9...
15:37 Ecclesiastes... let me say that one again,
15:40 Ecclesiastes chapter 9 verses 5 and 10 are two mini Scriptures
15:47 that talk about when we are dead...
15:51 we have an unconscious sleep.
15:53 And, you know, I love this Scripture
15:56 in 1st Corinthians 15:17 and 18,
15:59 Paul is telling the people who...
16:01 some were telling him, "Oh, Christ isn't resurrected. "
16:05 He says, "Hey if Christ isn't risen, your faith is futile;
16:08 and all who have fallen asleep... "
16:10 that's a metaphor for death...
16:13 "in Christ have perished. "
16:15 So, he didn't see people up in heaven...
16:17 he knew there was no life until the resurrection.
16:20 But now, here is the difficult thing to tell you
16:23 and I will soften it at the end.
16:25 There's no opportunity after death
16:28 to have a second chance of salvation.
16:31 We have already determined our destiny before we die.
16:35 Hebrews 9:27 says,
16:37 "It is appointed for men to die once,
16:40 but after this the judgment. "
16:41 There's no purgatory... that is a pagan philosophy.
16:45 There's no hellfire till the end of the earth
16:50 when God will create a Lake of Fire on the earth
16:54 and in Revelation 20 verses 14 and 15,
16:59 that fire is referred to
17:02 as the second death.
17:04 Anyone whose name is not in the Book of Life...
17:06 it is a second death.
17:09 They're ashes... they are totally destroyed.
17:12 So, here is what I want to tell you.
17:14 Your son is in the grave...
17:15 he is unconscious... awaiting...
17:17 you don't know what he did the last second...
17:20 he could have been like the thief on the cross
17:22 and accepted Christ
17:23 but if he rejected God, your son would not be happy in heaven...
17:30 he would prefer to perish.
17:32 Greg: Hmmm... wow... thank you Shelley
17:34 and thank you for all the Scripture references,
17:36 you know, as well... and Patricia...
17:38 it's a great answer.
17:39 Patricia, we want you to know that all of us here at 3ABN...
17:42 will continue to lift you up in prayer
17:44 because a loss like that...
17:45 as Shelley mentioned... a loss of a child is so devastating
17:48 so, we will continue to pray for you in that loss.
17:50 Pastor James, a question here from Melinda from Michigan.
17:55 James: Okay.
17:56 Greg: And, the book of James...
17:58 it's fit into your name, isn't it,
18:00 okay, "So, the book of James...
18:01 the book of James
18:04 says, we ought to confess our sins to one another.
18:08 Would that read better as confess our 'faults'
18:11 to each other
18:12 as our 'sins' are to be confessed to God
18:14 and God alone?"
18:15 James: All right, Melinda in Michigan,
18:17 yes, that would be a great translation... faults not sins,
18:21 in fact, the translation of the KJV
18:25 is really good in relation to this,
18:27 you know, being raised a Catholic,
18:30 I'm sensitive to this issue because
18:32 I was raised... going to church...
18:34 and confessing sins to another man... a priest,
18:36 in order to get absolution or forgiveness.
18:39 so I recognize the sensitivity of this issue.
18:42 The word "faults" is actually translated
18:45 from a different Greek word... it means to slide or slip
18:50 excuse me... to slide... slip...
18:52 unintentional error or transgression.
18:55 "Sin" has a completely different origin than "faults. "
18:58 It means... to miss the mark or to sin.
19:01 So... but with that said, however,
19:03 I don't want to place too much emphasis on the Greek.
19:07 There's a lot of times we can get misdirected
19:11 when we place a lot of emphasis on Greek translations...
19:14 Greek words... especially when we consider
19:16 that the Greek word for "faults"
19:18 in James 5:16 is used in a number of places
19:21 in the New Testament for sin and for transgression
19:24 and for offenses that are forgiven by Christ.
19:26 So, we don't want to say,
19:28 "Wow! this is really talking about sin and transgression.
19:31 In James chapter 5...
19:33 it's just talking about something a little different. "
19:35 There is a little bit of nuance there with the Greek
19:37 but the more significant point that is being made by James
19:41 is that while our sins are to be confessed to God alone,
19:45 who is the only one who can actually forgive us our sins
19:48 on salvational level,
19:50 if those sins are committed against individuals,
19:53 we should ask those individuals for forgiveness also.
19:57 That's the process of confession...
19:59 we need to personally go to individuals
20:02 that we may have sinned against and ask them to forgive us.
20:04 Now, note this point with care,
20:06 When you ask an individual to forgive you,
20:09 that's not a salvational level,
20:10 an individual can never forgive you on a salvational level.
20:14 Only God can forgive us on a salvational level.
20:18 Greg: Excellent... thank you so very much Pastor James,
20:21 great answer.
20:23 You know, it's so comforting to find answers from God's Word.
20:26 Panel: That's right... yeah...
20:27 Greg: Something we can stand on
20:28 and going back to that question that the lady had... Patricia...
20:31 do you know we can trust in the Righteous Judge too, right,
20:34 God knows everything, yeah, so praise the Lord, thank you,
20:36 great answer.
20:38 Let's see, Pastor Ryan, this is...
20:41 this person is from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania,
20:43 and it's a beautiful name and I...
20:45 I don't know, trying to pronounce this here,
20:47 you can help me out on this Pastor Ryan,
20:50 looks like Sephan... Sus... Sysouphanh...
20:53 beautiful name though from Philadelphia.
20:55 What do you think, Pastor Ryan?
20:57 Ryan: I think that's... I think you did a good job...
20:59 something like that.
21:00 Greg: Yeah but thank you so much for submitting,
21:01 great question here:
21:03 Do you guys think it's wrong to excommunicate sinful people
21:06 from the church?
21:08 Therefore, if we follow the Holy Bible
21:10 and the examples of Jesus Christ
21:12 shouldn't the church follow the Biblical truth
21:15 and let the Lord Jesus Christ do the sifting and gathering?
21:18 Why do churches put guilt, shame and condemnation
21:22 on the people who are already spiritually lacking?
21:25 Ryan: Okay, all right, so,
21:27 first of all, I want to say straight up
21:28 we should always... and I think the church absolutely
21:31 should always seek for a redemptive plan of restoration.
21:35 We should always be as gracious and forgiving as Jesus is, right
21:40 but nonetheless, we also have to keep in mind
21:42 that even the God of the universe had to excommunicate
21:45 or banish or disfellowship someone from his own kingdom.
21:49 We know that was Lucifer
21:50 along with one-third of the fallen angels from heaven,
21:52 but that did not come before Christ had provided
21:55 an opportunity... sufficient time
21:57 for Lucifer and those angels to repent
21:59 and to confess and to be brought back into the fold.
22:02 But that being said, the direct answer to your question here
22:05 "Do we think that it's wrong to excommunicate
22:07 or in this case to disfellowship sinful people from the church?
22:10 There are appropriate times when the Bible does counsel us
22:13 indeed to do that when it's extreme cases.
22:16 For instance, when a person is habitually committing open sin
22:21 before the brethren
22:22 potentially causing stumbling block
22:23 or in this case
22:25 maybe even dividing the flock of the church.
22:26 That's when we have to practice Matthew chapter 18...
22:29 the counsel given there.
22:30 Matthew 18 verses 15 through 17 says,
22:32 "Moreover if your brother sins against you,
22:34 go and tell him his fault between you and him alone.
22:37 If he hears you, you have gained your brother.
22:39 But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more"
22:43 that's Elders... Pastor from the church,
22:45 but, notice that by the mouth of two or three witnesses
22:48 every word may be established.
22:49 But then comes verse 17,
22:50 "And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church.
22:53 But if he refuses even to hear the church,
22:55 let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector. "
22:58 Look at the... at the...
23:00 back at the culture of Jesus' day
23:03 even the tax collector... they were...
23:05 they were separate from everyone else...
23:07 they were considered as on the low end of the totem pole.
23:10 In other words, they were...
23:11 they would keep themselves distanced from these people.
23:13 Also, in 1st Corinthians chapter 5
23:16 there's a lot to be said here where Paul writes,
23:18 in just the opening first five verses, notice what he says,
23:21 1st Corinthians 5 verses 1 through 5,
23:23 "It is actually reported... "
23:24 this is Paul speaking to the church...
23:26 he said, "It is reported that there is sexual immorality
23:28 among you, and such sexual immorality
23:31 as is not even named among the Gentiles...
23:34 that a man has his father's wife!
23:36 And you are puffed up, and have not rather mourned,
23:39 that he who has... " notice...
23:41 "done this deed
23:42 might be taken away from among you. "
23:44 Okay, and he goes on to say,
23:46 "For I indeed, as absent in body but present in spirit,
23:49 have already judged... as though I were present...
23:51 him who has so done this deed. "
23:54 He goes on to say,
23:55 "In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ,
23:56 when you are gathered together, along with my spirit,
23:59 with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,
24:00 deliver such a one to Satan
24:03 for the destruction of the flesh,
24:05 that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. "
24:08 And then he goes on down a few more verses
24:11 in verses 9 through 13,
24:12 and again, all of this is in 1st Corinthians chapter 5,
24:15 so, now you go down to verses 9 through 13,
24:17 and he talks about...
24:18 how... he says, "I wrote to you in my epistle
24:20 not to keep company with sexually immoral people... "
24:23 and then he... down in verse 11 he says,
24:25 "but now I've written to you not to keep company with anyone
24:27 named a brother... "
24:29 he's talking about a brother in the church...
24:30 your... your brother in Christ, so, a member of the church...
24:33 he goes on to describe, "who is sexually immoral,
24:35 or covetous, or an idolater,
24:37 or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner...
24:39 not even to eat with such a person. "
24:41 He says, "Don't even eat with them. "
24:42 "For what have I to do with judging those who...
24:45 who are outside?
24:47 Do you not judge those who are inside?
24:50 But those who are outside God judges. "
24:52 And then he says,
24:54 "Therefore put away from yourselves the evil person. "
24:57 So, are there opportunities in Scripture
24:58 that the Scripture counsels us
25:01 that there may be times when we have to
25:02 make these tough decisions and say, "Brother" or "Sister,
25:05 we've given you opportunity to change... to repent...
25:07 but you are... you are rebellious. "
25:09 Sometimes we have to be brought to those situations...
25:11 just a couple of Scriptures I'm going to reference here
25:13 in the last 20 seconds, I have... I'm not going to read it
25:16 but read what Romans chapter 16 verses 17 through 20
25:19 where he talks about noting those
25:20 who cause divisions and offenses within the Brethren
25:23 and then, of course, Acts chapter 20 verses 28 to 30,
25:26 remember Paul talks about... we are overseers of God's church
25:29 and that we have to protect those who come in as wolves
25:32 to divide the flock.
25:33 So, yes, there are appropriate times
25:35 in which we have to take these actions.
25:36 Greg: Hmmm... yeah... excellent explanation on that
25:38 and I would like to say at the beginning too, Pastor Ryan,
25:40 that is... deal redemptively that's the first...
25:42 absolutely... praise the Lord.
25:44 Very good... good question too.
25:47 Sister Shelley, this person asks:
25:49 Am I sinning if I don't take part in foot washing,
25:53 but in the bread and grape juice only?
25:56 I don't mind washing someone else's feet
25:58 but I'm embarrassed to let anyone see mine?
26:02 Shelley: Okay, let me just say this,
26:04 I remember like it was yesterday my first foot-washing service
26:09 and I was so happy to stoop and wash the feet of an 90-year old
26:13 matriarchal saint in the church.
26:15 But boy! when she washed mine, it was humbling.
26:19 It was an interesting experience.
26:22 In John 13:5 through 10, at the Last Supper
26:26 when Jesus instituted the Ordinance of Communion.
26:31 What He did is He poured water in a basin,
26:34 put a towel around His waist
26:35 and then He's going around and washing the disciples' feet.
26:40 This was a servant's task...
26:43 He gets to Peter...
26:45 Peter says, "Oh no Lord,
26:46 You're not going to wash my feet... never. "
26:49 And He says, "Hey if I don't wash your feet,
26:52 you have no part in me. "
26:54 Now, Peter goes to the extreme and says,
26:56 "Oh, well... not just my feet... but my head also...
26:59 wash me all over. "
27:01 And so, Jesus answers,
27:03 "He who is bathed needs only to wash his feet,
27:06 he is completely clean;
27:07 and you are clean, but not all of you. "
27:10 Now, let me explain this,
27:11 the service of foot washing is something that symbolizes
27:17 cleaning after we have been baptized.
27:21 It's a symbolic thing.
27:23 Baptism is like our justification by faith...
27:26 foot washing is like sanctification by faith
27:29 because they were clean and we're clean
27:33 but our daily walk our feet get sullied.
27:36 So, the act of washing your feet is meant to humble us
27:42 and it is the perfect preparatory part
27:46 of Communion Service
27:48 but I have to say,
27:49 it only has merit if we've already confessed our sins
27:53 before the Lord.
27:55 John 13:14, Jesus said in this same context,
28:01 "If I then, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet,
28:05 you also ought to wash one another's feet. "
28:10 In the Greek, that word "ought" is obligatory...
28:14 you are obliged...
28:15 you are... you owe it as a duty to do this
28:19 and then He says in verse 15, John 13:15,
28:24 "For I have given you an example,
28:25 that you should do as I have done for you. "
28:29 And as I said, this is a beautiful preparatory part
28:32 of a Communion Service.
28:34 The one who stoops to wash the feet
28:37 following in Jesus' footsteps.
28:39 The one whose feet are washed, they are humbled
28:44 and He says in verse 17,
28:46 "If you know these things,
28:48 blessed are you if you do them. "
28:50 So, here's what I want to say to you,
28:52 if there is a condition about your feet that is embarrassing,
28:57 that you don't want your feet to be seen,
28:59 put on some thin nylon socks
29:04 and participate in the foot washing service
29:08 with those nylon socks on.
29:09 Greg: Hmmm... hmmm...
29:11 yeah, that's really good Shelley,
29:12 thank you for that answer
29:14 and I know I've done some foot washing with someone...
29:15 a gentleman that wore his socks actually
29:17 but that was... that's okay, so thank you so much
29:20 for Scriptural references too for that.
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30:09 Pastor James, we're coming to you next,
30:12 Sherrie from Pittsburg, Pennsylvania.
30:16 James: All right.
30:17 Greg: This is the question.
30:18 Satan was cast out of heaven to earth
30:20 before Adam and Eve were created,
30:22 but it says woe to the inhabitants of the Earth.
30:25 Who was dwelling on the Earth at this time?
30:27 They said, "This was at a different time. "
30:29 A different time before God created the earth?
30:32 What does that mean... a different time?
30:34 I heard this on Salvation, Symbols and Signs
30:37 Program Number 50 at about the 16-minute mark.
30:41 That's a Program on 3ABN.
30:42 It would be great if Pastor James could answer this
30:45 since he was teaching this. Thank you.
30:48 He reference John chapter 12:31 through 32.
30:51 Great question Sherrie.
30:52 James: Excellent question Sherrie
30:54 from Pittsburg, Pennsylvania.
30:55 Thank you for that question,
30:57 yes, we did reference that in Revelation chapter 12
30:59 so, we'll take a look at Revelation chapter 12
31:01 just an overview of Revelation chapter 12,
31:03 so, Revelation 12:1 through 5,
31:06 is a basic summary of the salvation plan
31:09 that God has put in effect for all of us.
31:12 The woman there is great with child... the child being Christ,
31:15 the woman representing the church...
31:16 specifically, the church of Israel... the Jewish church.
31:19 Christ is born...
31:20 the dragon... Satan... tries to destroy Him as soon as He's born
31:23 that takes place through Herod when Christ was just a child
31:27 and then, it says that the child is caught up to heaven.
31:30 Of course, we don't have the details or the fact
31:33 that Christ lived and died to save us from our sins.
31:36 It just says... He is caught up to heaven, in verse 5,
31:38 and the woman in verse 6 flees into the wilderness.
31:40 Then you transition into another section...
31:43 Revelation chapter 12 verses 7 through 9
31:45 takes us back to the war in heaven
31:47 and really it's an explanation of why Christ had to come...
31:50 be born of the Jewish church and redeem us
31:53 because there was a war that began in heaven
31:55 between Michael and His angels and the devil and his angels
31:58 and they fought and that devil was cast out of heaven.
32:00 That's the "cast out" you are referring to.
32:02 That's the "cast out" that we're all familiar with...
32:05 that's the "cast out" where Satan is physically
32:07 removed from heaven.
32:08 The problem with him being physically removed
32:11 is that there is still a little bit of sympathy there,
32:13 there are still a few questions that are unanswered
32:16 in the minds of angels.
32:17 In fact, one-third of the angels are actually deceived
32:19 and go with him...
32:21 the other angels need clarification.
32:23 God cast him out but God still has to clarify
32:26 this whole issue about Satan and his accusations
32:29 against God's throne.
32:30 So, Jesus just doesn't come to redeem us...
32:33 Jesus also comes to bring clarification
32:35 to who God is... what He is really like
32:38 to God's justice and His mercy... to His character.
32:41 That's what we see taking place in the next verse.
32:44 In order to understand the next verse,
32:47 that is Revelation 12 verse 10,
32:49 we need to go to John chapter 12 verses 31 and 32
32:53 and that's what we'll do right now.
32:54 John 12:31 and 32 says this...
32:56 and Jesus here is going to the cross...
32:58 He's going to make the final sacrifice and He says,
33:02 John chapter 12:31, "Now is the judgment of this world;
33:05 now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
33:08 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth,
33:11 will draw all men unto me. "
33:13 So, really verse 5 where Christ is taken up into heaven...
33:17 that verse takes place after what we read
33:20 in John chapter 12:31 and 32, Jesus is crucified
33:24 and when He's crucified, guess what?
33:25 Satan is unmasked.
33:27 The character of Satan is revealed
33:29 before the unfallen universe
33:30 and they see him for who he really is.
33:32 Their questions are all answered.
33:33 Now, he's come selfish...
33:35 he's cast out of... not only physically
33:36 but he's cast out of the sympathies
33:38 of the unfallen world
33:39 but woe to the inhabitants of the earth,
33:41 we have yet to learn
33:43 what the unfallen universe has learned
33:44 about the character of Satan.
33:46 We still have sympathy with the devil...
33:47 as the old Rolling Stone song says
33:50 and God is seeking through the revelation of Jesus Christ,
33:53 lifting up Jesus Christ to remove all of those sympathies,
33:56 the sympathies that are removed from the unfallen universe
33:59 to remove all the sympathies from the fallen universe.
34:01 Greg: Hmmm... excellent,
34:02 thank you for that clarification Pastor James, praise the Lord.
34:05 James: Amen.
34:06 Greg: This question comes from
34:10 see, let me make sure I get this right,
34:12 Tony... Nashville, Tennessee.
34:15 It's not too far away from 3ABN.
34:18 It says: We know that every eye shall see Jesus
34:21 when He returns.
34:23 But for those that crucified Him,
34:24 will there be a special resurrection
34:26 or will they rise with those in the first one
34:29 one... in order to seek Christ actually come
34:31 and then go back to the grave to awake with the wicked?
34:35 Thank you.
34:36 Ryan: Okay, thank you so much, Tony, for that question
34:39 and the answer is very clear.
34:40 I'm going to provide two or three texts here to support this
34:42 but the direct answer to your question is,
34:44 yes, there is a Special Resurrection that will occur
34:48 of the wicked at the second coming of Jesus
34:51 for those individuals who participated
34:53 or had anything to do with the crucifixion of Jesus Christ.
34:57 So, first I want to start in Daniel chapter 12,
35:00 just to set the foundation for this,
35:01 Daniel chapter 12 verses 1 and 2,
35:03 this is within the context of those events
35:05 leading up to the second coming of Christ...
35:07 it says there,
35:09 "And at that time Michael shall stand up,
35:10 the great prince who stands
35:12 watch over the sons of your people;
35:13 and there shall be a time of trouble,
35:15 such as never was since there was a nation,
35:17 even to that time.
35:18 And at that time your people shall be delivered,
35:21 everyone who is found written in the book. "
35:24 So, that's the righteous, right?
35:25 The people whose names are written
35:27 in the Lamb's book of life.
35:28 But then, verse 2 comes within the context
35:29 of that glorious appearing of Jesus in the clouds.
35:32 It says, "And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth
35:35 shall awake... "
35:37 okay, we know this to be the... you know...
35:38 within the context of 1st Thessalonians chapter 4
35:41 where it says, "The dead in Christ shall rise first... "
35:43 1st Corinthians chapter 15, "We shall not all sleep,
35:45 we shall all be changed... in a moment,
35:47 in the twinkling of an eye... "
35:48 I think it's verse 51 there in 1st Corinthians 15,
35:50 So this is... we know the righteous
35:52 at the second coming of Jesus
35:53 will come forth out of their graves
35:55 but the majority of the dead...
35:57 they... they are destroyed...
35:58 those who are alive are destroyed
36:00 by the brightness of His coming
36:01 according to 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2 there... verse 8,
36:04 but also there... it makes it very clear that
36:06 the righteous that are already dead in the grave...
36:09 well, they remain in the graves
36:10 except for a specific group of people.
36:12 it goes on to say there in verse 2...
36:14 did I say: righteous...
36:16 I mean: unrighteous is what I meant...
36:17 thank you for that correction.
36:18 Verse 2 of Daniel 12 here it says:
36:20 "And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth
36:21 shall awake, some to everlasting life... "
36:23 okay... but then it goes on to say,
36:24 "Some to shame and everlasting contempt. "
36:27 Now, Revelation 1 verse 7,
36:30 notice what Jesus says,
36:31 "Behold... " speaking of His coming
36:33 because He is coming with clouds
36:34 "and every eye will see Him,
36:36 even they who pierced Him.
36:38 And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him.
36:41 Even so, Amen. "
36:43 Even those who pierced Him...
36:44 well, that would be Caiaphas
36:45 and, you know, majority of the... of the priesthood,
36:47 the Sanhedrin...
36:48 those Roman guards that participated in the...
36:50 in the... in the crucifixion itself,
36:53 all those individuals will be resurrected
36:55 because they will actually see physically
36:58 Jesus coming back in the clouds now, one more text...
37:00 where do we get the foundation of this from?
37:02 Matthew chapter 26 when Jesus was standing trial
37:05 at that Sanhedrin... before the Sanhedrin Court in 31 A.D.
37:10 it goes on to say, "But Jesus kept silent. "
37:12 This is Matthew 26 verses 63 and 64,
37:15 "But Jesus kept silent.
37:16 And the high priest answered and said to Him,
37:18 'I put you under oath by the living God:
37:20 Tell us if you are the Christ and the Son of God!'
37:22 Jesus said to him, 'It is as you said.
37:25 Nevertheless, I say to you,
37:26 hereafter you will see the Son of Man
37:28 sitting at the right hand of Power,
37:30 and coming on the clouds of heaven. '"
37:32 So, very plainly put... Daniel 12... Matthew 26...
37:36 Revelation 1...
37:37 we have clear texts there that tell us that yes,
37:39 Special Resurrection will occur of those who pierced Christ.
37:42 Greg: Hmmm... yeah... thank you very much, very clear.
37:45 Very clear from the Word of God, thank you, Pastor Ryan.
37:48 Shelley, question from Gloria, she lives in Maryland.
37:52 In Exodus chapter 33 verse 11,
37:55 Moses spoke to God face to face.
37:58 Genesis chapter 32 verse 30 and this is Jacob,
38:03 "For I have seen God face to face
38:05 and my life is preserved. "
38:06 Then back to Exodus chapter 33:20 and 22 says,
38:11 "No man has seen My face and lived. "
38:13 Which is the truth? Did people see God and live?
38:17 Shelley: That's a great question and I studied this out myself
38:21 some time ago out of curiosity.
38:24 In Genesis 32:30, when Jacob wrestled with a man,
38:28 he knew it was God that he was wrestling with.
38:31 This was what they called a Christophany...
38:35 this was an appearance of the pre-incarnate Second Person
38:42 of the Godhead.
38:44 In other words, the one who would become Jesus Christ.
38:47 This was before He was incarnated.
38:51 And Hosea 12:4 identifies this man
38:56 that Jacob was wrestling with as the angel of the Lord
39:01 who is also identified as God?
39:05 Now, in Exodus 33:11
39:08 when it says that the Lord spoke to Moses face to face,
39:13 this is a figurative expression.
39:17 He was... it just means that God had direct communication
39:23 with Moses.
39:24 He didn't do it through visions or dreams
39:27 and we know it's figurative
39:29 because you go right on down in Exodus 33 to verse 20,
39:33 and God says to Moses,
39:36 "You can't see My face:
39:37 no man shall see My face, and live. "
39:40 And in verse 22, when Moses says, "Show me Your glory"
39:44 God says, "So it shall be, while My glory passes by,
39:49 that I will put you in a cleft of the rock,
39:52 and I will cover with My hand while I pass by:
39:56 and then when I take away My hand,
39:59 you shall see my back but you shall not...
40:03 My face shall not be seen. "
40:04 Panel: Hmmm...
40:06 Shelley: You know, in 1st Timothy 6:16,
40:08 the Bible says that God lives in unapproachable light.
40:15 It is the penetrating purity of His love.
40:21 Love cannot sin.
40:23 This is what makes God holy
40:24 and His love is a consuming fire of sin...
40:32 the flame of His love.
40:34 If you're a sinner and you are in God's presence,
40:37 you just go... choook...
40:38 that's why when they return, they're going to be seen.
40:43 But... so we know fallen man
40:46 cannot stand in the presence of God
40:48 but I've just got to tell you this,
40:49 Jesus said in Matthew 5:8, "Blessed are the pure in heart
40:53 for they shall see God. "
40:55 And the same Apostle who... who writes,
40:59 "No one has seen God at any time. " John 1:18
41:02 Same Apostle says in 1st John 3:2-3,
41:06 "We shall see Him as He is. "
41:08 And in Revelation 22:4, again John writes,
41:12 "They shall see His face;
41:14 and his name will be on their foreheads. "
41:17 Greg: Hmmm... amen.
41:18 Thank you so much Sister Shelley.
41:20 See, in the last few minutes here,
41:21 I think we have enough time to do one more question each.
41:24 So, Pastor James, I'll try to read this question quickly.
41:27 It comes from Adoracion from Seattle, Washington:
41:30 Is moving out to the country Biblical?
41:32 Is off-grid living necessary?
41:35 I have noticed many Seventh-day Adventists
41:38 looking for land that is off-grid
41:40 versus country living.
41:41 Won't we have to flee to the mountains anyway
41:43 during the great time of trouble
41:45 and rely on God regardless of how self-sufficient our home is
41:48 in the country?
41:49 James: All right, there's a couple of questions there.
41:51 So, we'll deal with the first one:
41:52 Is country living Biblical?
41:53 Well, we can see from the very beginning
41:55 that country living is Biblical.
41:58 God put us in a garden
41:59 and He wanted us to be surrounded
42:02 with the beauties of nature.
42:04 Nature is God's second book... it speaks to us...
42:07 it speaks to our senses and it invigorates us.
42:11 I love being out in nature
42:13 and I love living in the country.
42:15 Now, I'm a city boy by nature.
42:17 My wife is a city girl raised in Southern California.
42:20 I was raised in London so that's our natural tendency
42:22 but when I moved out to the country,
42:25 it was hard at first, you know,
42:27 because it was so different, you know,
42:28 there was no convenient stores around the corner,
42:30 you know, you had to go three hours to get to an airport
42:33 to fly out and I did a lot of flying
42:35 but eventually, I settled into it
42:37 and now, I love living in the country.
42:39 That's what we were made for,
42:40 we were made to be in nature
42:42 and this is what we see all through the Bible,
42:45 in fact, country living was God's call to His people...
42:48 to Abraham... Abraham did it.
42:50 Moses did it... Jacob did it... Isaac did it.
42:53 All of them avoided city dwelling.
42:55 Even Christ lived in a small community of Nazareth
42:59 as opposed to a metropolis of Jerusalem.
43:02 And that's not to say that God doesn't have
43:03 a city dwelling for us.
43:05 The New Jerusalem is going to be a city dwelling for sure
43:07 and we're going to have a mansion in the New Jerusalem,
43:10 but that's going to be as far as we can tell
43:11 the only city in the new heaven and the new earth.
43:14 The rest is going to be country living
43:16 and we can see that
43:17 when God's people were taken into the New Canaan...
43:20 and into the Promised Land
43:21 and they were all given a section of land...
43:23 a section of property which was great as a cure, I think,
43:26 for big government today to just give people land
43:29 and help them to develop that land.
43:32 Those are the good old days, and they are the Biblical days.
43:34 Now, the second half of the question is:
43:36 Is off-grid living necessary?
43:37 Now, I've noticed, you know, that you said that
43:41 many Adventists are looking to live off-grid,
43:43 I don't think off-grid living is necessary.
43:46 You know, we are going to have a time
43:48 when we're going to have to flee to the mountains
43:50 and so, we're going to be off-grid
43:51 but why bring a time of trouble beforehand?
43:54 There are conveniences that help life to be easier for us.
43:58 Why not take advantage of those conveniences right now?
44:01 Sometimes we want to live off-grid
44:03 because we don't want anything to change
44:04 when the time of trouble comes so we want to be used to it.
44:06 Well, when that time comes, oh, have a generator...
44:10 live off-grid for that time but why do it ahead of time?
44:13 I think it's beneficial for us to take advantage of the
44:16 conveniences that we have in our world today
44:18 so that we can get on with God's work
44:20 and not be distracted with all of the extra work that it takes
44:24 to live off-grid.
44:25 Now, that's not saying
44:27 that it's wrong for someone to live off-grid.
44:29 If you choose to live off-grid, I think it's great, you know,
44:31 if it's desired
44:33 but there is no reason for us to bring that time of trouble
44:36 on us ahead of time.
44:37 When the time comes, when we have to flee to the mountains,
44:40 we have to live off-grid...
44:41 well, that's something that we'll endure at that time...
44:43 why do it now?
44:45 James: Excellent, yeah, thank you so much.
44:47 Like you mentioned, couple of questions in there
44:49 so, thank you so very much for it.
44:50 Great answers from God's Word.
44:51 Pastor Ryan, question from Pam, Trinidad... Tobago.
44:55 Ryan: All right.
44:56 Greg: I see many of the churches today
44:57 dealing with spiritual warfare.
44:59 Does the Seventh-day Adventist Church
45:01 help people who are being afflicted via witchcraft?
45:04 Ryan: The answer is "yes".
45:06 You may not hear as much about it
45:08 because, you know, these are kind of...
45:10 well, we know that demonic oppression and witchcraft...
45:14 it's... it's a thing in our world
45:16 but you don't hear about it a lot... but it's a real thing.
45:18 And so, in this case, yeah,
45:20 you may not hear or know that there are ministries...
45:22 I'll just give you one right off the bat,
45:23 it's one that actually Shelley made me recently aware of
45:27 that I did not know about,
45:28 it's: Set Free in Christ Institute.
45:30 Set Free in Christ Institute and they have a website:
45:33 SetFreeinChrist. org
45:35 so: SetFreeinChrist. org
45:37 go there Pam... maybe bring it to your Pastor's attention.
45:41 This is... this is a ministry that has brought information
45:45 together from the Scripture and how to, you know,
45:47 deal with exorcisms and things like that
45:49 of people who are being demonically oppressed
45:52 or in this case, oppressed by witchcraft of any kind,
45:55 I would... I would very much encourage you
45:57 to go to that website and check it out
45:59 and this... this particular organization
46:01 can help in terms of...
46:03 of bringing about the proper measures needed to take
46:05 for someone dealing with this.
46:07 That being said, the Scripture makes it very clear
46:09 we should also all follow the Scriptural counsel on this,
46:12 James chapter 5 verses 13 through 16,
46:15 "Is anyone among you suffering? let him pray.
46:17 Is anyone cheerful? let him sings Psalms.
46:19 Is anyone among you sick?
46:21 let him call for the elders of the church;
46:22 and let them pray over him,
46:24 anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
46:25 And the prayer of faith will save the sick,
46:29 and the Lord will raise him up. "
46:30 My Friends, in this case, we should be there for one another.
46:33 If someone's hurting or they're dealing with some type of...
46:35 of demonic oppression or witchcraft in this case,
46:37 we need to be there to pray for these brothers.
46:39 Now, the truth of the matter is,
46:41 a lot of ministers are a little... sss...
46:43 they're little scared to even get involved
46:46 in something like this because of what we read, you know,
46:48 in Acts chapter 19, about, you know, the... the...
46:51 the sons of Sceva are out there, you know,
46:53 they're hearing Paul casting out demons in there
46:55 they're excited, "Wow, we're going to out here
46:56 and do the same thing. "
46:57 So, they find themselves a... a demonic guy
46:59 that's full of the devil and they...
47:01 they start to try to cast him out
47:02 and the demon speaks to this guy and says,
47:04 "I know Jesus... I know Paul...
47:05 who are you?"
47:07 And then the demons leap on these guys
47:08 and the whop him up really nice
47:10 and send them naked out the door running
47:11 and so, you know the idea...
47:13 some ministers are a little hesitant to get involved
47:15 in this type of ministry,
47:16 because they themselves are afraid
47:17 that they might have something in their life
47:19 that... that those demons may... may, you know, expose.
47:22 In this case, my Friends, there... there is hope.
47:24 We also need to also know that in... in extreme cases,
47:27 Jesus counsels us in Matthew 17 that sometimes,
47:30 we have to do a little bit of prayer and fasting.
47:33 So, this is Matthew 17 verses 19 through 21,
47:36 He says that it's only... He says, right here He says,
47:39 "However, this kind does not go out
47:40 except by prayer and fasting. "
47:42 Pam... you or whoever you might know that sparked this question
47:46 that might be dealing with this,
47:48 maybe they need to pray...
47:49 maybe they need to fast...
47:50 call on the Elders of the Church...
47:52 contact: Set Free in Christ Institute.
47:55 Go on that website, do all that you can.
47:57 No one should be oppressed by demons...
47:59 Jesus has power over the works of darkness...
48:03 just simply call out of Him... take the proper measures
48:05 and that person... you... or whoever it is
48:08 can indeed be set free in Jesus' name.
48:10 Greg: Amen, yeah, great advice, thank you so very much,
48:12 great answer...
48:14 Sister Shelley, Brian from Spokane, Washington
48:17 asks: I'm confused by the way the concept of "spirit"
48:21 is used in the Bible.
48:22 In Genesis 2:7, the breath that God breathed into man
48:25 is referred to as the Spirit.
48:27 When I read Galatians 5:18,
48:29 it talks about being led by the Spirit.
48:31 When I saw "Spirit" capitalized,
48:33 I thought that was referring to the Holy Spirit.
48:36 Interestingly, when I looked up the Greek word for "Spirit"
48:39 in this text in Galatians it said that it is Pneuma
48:42 which means "breath. "
48:44 That confused me so how can "breath" lead us?
48:46 Whenever "spirit" is mentioned in the Bible,
48:49 if it is not referring to the Holy Spirit,
48:51 does it always mean "breath"?
48:52 Shelley: Okay, the Greek word Pneuma
48:56 can mean: spirit, wind, or breath
48:59 and I don't know what you looked it up...
49:01 in most places that I've looked,
49:03 it talks about spirit, wind or breath
49:06 and when you were saying in Galatians 5:18,
49:09 led by the Spirit... that is the Holy Spirit.
49:12 You have to read in context when you see the word "Pneuma"
49:15 and in context, you'll know when to capital...
49:19 put the capital "S"
49:20 that always refers to the Holy Spirit of God.
49:24 Romans 5:5 says that God pours out His love...
49:28 the essence of His Being into our hearts
49:31 by the power of the Holy Spirit
49:34 who's been given to us.
49:35 That's not just a breath or a wind...
49:38 that's God's Holy Spirit, the Third Person of the Godhead.
49:42 In John 14:16 Jesus said,
49:46 "I will pray... the Father
49:48 He will give you another helper. "
49:51 Allos Parakletos is what the Greek says
49:55 and you know what's interesting?
49:56 That means, another Helper who is exactly like Me
50:00 and that He may abide with you forever.
50:04 A Parakletos is an Advocate,
50:07 Legal Assistant that pleads someone's cause
50:11 an Intercessor, Counselor, Comforter or Helper.
50:14 So, when Jesus says in John... the next verse...
50:17 He says, "The Spirit of truth... "
50:19 He's talking about the Holy Spirit
50:21 whom the world cannot receive because it neither sees Him
50:24 nor knows Him... but you know Him
50:26 for He dwells in you and will be in you.
50:31 Now, John 3:8 Jesus told Nicodemus,
50:34 "The wind blows where it wishes and you hear it...
50:38 but you can't tell where it is and He said,
50:40 "So it is with everyone who's born of the Spirit. "
50:42 Now, some people say,
50:44 "Ah ha... that denies the personhood of the Holy Spirit. "
50:48 No, it's simply an expression.
50:51 Jesus is explaining the mode of operation of the Spirit.
50:56 and you know, we call Jesus "The Gate"
50:59 we call Him "The Door" "Divine"
51:01 "The Bread of Life"
51:02 that doesn't mean Jesus is not a person.
51:04 But let me just quickly tell you
51:06 what the functions of the Holy Spirit are.
51:09 He inspired the Scriptures...
51:11 He illuminates the Scriptures for us to understand...
51:13 He convicts us of sin, righteousness and judgment,
51:16 He exalts Christ... calls people to the Savior...
51:19 He affects regeneration... the rebirth...
51:22 He cultivates Christian character
51:25 and the fullness of stature,
51:27 He bestows spiritual gifts...
51:29 He seals us for the day of redemption
51:31 and you better believe
51:34 Pneuma... the Spirit... capital "S"
51:38 is the Third Person of the Godhead.
51:41 He is the Holy Spirit.
51:44 Greg: Amen, wow! thank you so very much, Sister Shelley.
51:46 Thank you for your passion and excitement too.
51:47 Shelley: I love that topic.
51:49 Greg: We're going to take a quick break,
51:50 we'll be right back with some closing comments.
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