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Greg: Hello and
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You know, I think about
what's going on in this world
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and that there's so much...
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it seems like
there's so much negativity
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but there's also so
much positivity, right,
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that also can be found
in the midst of this world
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that can be discouraging
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and I tell you, one place to
find encouragement and hope...
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the ultimate place,
right, is the Word of God
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so, we just
appreciate these Programs...
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we appreciate that you're
sending in your questions.
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It kind of is a way
for us to interact with you
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and today, I'm
joined on the Set by...
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with Pastor James Rafferty,
good to have you with us, Sir.
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James: Good to be
here, Greg, as always.
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Greg: You're
doing all right today?
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James: Doing fantastic.
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Greg: Ready to
open the Word of God?
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James: Ready to
go... ready to go.
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Greg: Some good
questions have been submitted.
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James: Yes simple
questions, yes, definitely.
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Greg: Sitting next
to you, Pastor Ryan Day,
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good to have you here.
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Ryan: Always a blessing to be
on the Program... I'm excited.
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Greg: Amen... you
always have a smile.
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Ryan: Always.
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Greg: Sitting next to
you, Sister Shelley Quinn,
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good to have you here
on the first Today too.
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Shelley: Thank you, it's such
a joy to actually take the time
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to study out these questions
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because we learn
as we do it as well.
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Greg: Hmmm... hmmm...
yeah we encourage you at home,
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thank you Shelley
for bringing that up...
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is that we want you
to study along with us,
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You may want to
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It's... it's always great fun...
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and I like to say,
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Bible teaching...
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Bible students and
that's here on the Set
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but, you know
what? That's you too
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because we know that you
enjoy studying God's Word.
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Now, if you're like,
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This is how you can do
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So, without
further ado, let's get in
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but before we do that, let's
open with a word of prayer.
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"Father in heaven, Lord,
we're so grateful for Your love,
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Your compassion...
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Lord, for Your
care for each one of us.
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Thank You that we can
open Your Word, Father,
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for in Your Word
we will find truth
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and Lord, we want to study
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to show
ourselves approved unto You
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and so, Father,
we're just grateful today
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that we have the privilege and
the freedom to open Your Word.
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We thank You and in
Jesus' name we pray,
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amen. "
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Panel: Amen... amen.
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Greg: Well, Pastor
James, let's start with you.
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James: Okay.
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Greg: Good question here
and this is one from Instagram,
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we mentioned that
just a moment ago.
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So, Cyndi submits this question:
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Would the Bible Q and A Panel
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please break
down the age of Moses
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in comparison with
the phases of his ministry
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to the children
of Israel, please?
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I'm confused about how long
they wandered in the wilderness.
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Was Moses 40 years
old when he left Egypt...
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spent 40 years in Midian
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and 40 years in the wilderness
or 80 years in the wilderness?
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I ask because they
failed with the ten spies
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and had to go
back to the wilderness
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and then went back
after that generation died.
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I just get
confused with the timeline.
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Please explain.
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James: Great
question, Cyndi from Instagram.
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Yes, so, Moses yes
was 40 years in Egypt...
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40 years in Midian
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and 40 years in the wilderness
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and then laid to
rest by the hand of God.
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That's the basic
simple answer to the question.
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I have three and
a half more minutes
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so, I'm going to give you a
little bit more... all right.
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Panel: Laughter.
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James: The New
Testament actually gives us
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the clearest answer to
this believe it or not...
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I was looking for the
answers for this in Exodus
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and then I found
something in the New Testament
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in the book of Acts
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and I thought we'll just
read the verses, Acts chapter 7
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is where we're
going to be looking
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beginning with verse 20, right.
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Stephen here is speaking...
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he's kind of
giving us the summary
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of the history of God's
people leading up to his death.
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He's summarizing their history
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because
probation is about to close
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for the Nation of
Israel as a nation
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and so, God is kind of
using Stephen to summarize
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all that he has done to lead
them to accept Christ as Messiah
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and in the context of
this summary of history
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verse 20 picks up with Paul...
I mean, excuse me, with Moses.
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"In which time Moses was born,
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and was exceedingly fair,
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and nourished up in his
father's house three months... "
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verse 21,
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"And when he was cast out,
Pharaoh's daughter took him
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and so nourished
him as her own son. "
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Verse 22,
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"And Moses was learned in
all the wisdom of the Egyptians,
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and was mighty in
words and in deeds. "
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Verse 23, "And when he
was fully forty years old... "
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so, he's in Egypt...
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as an Egyptian...
raised as an Egyptian...
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he comes to the age of
40 years old in the past
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excuse me... "And it came into
his heart to visit his brethren
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the children of Israel.
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And seeing one of them suffering
wrong, he defended him,
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and avenged him...
him that was oppressed,
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and smote the Egyptian. "
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Verse 25,
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"For he supposed his
brethren would have understood
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how that God by his
hand would deliver them:
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but they understood not. "
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Verse 26, "The next day
he shewed himself unto them
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as they strove, and would have
set them at one again, saying,
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'Sirs, you are brethren;
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why do ye wrong
to one another?'"
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Verse 27, "But he
that did his neighbor wrong
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thrust him away, saying,
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'Who made thee a
ruler and a judge over us?"
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Verse 28, "Wilt thou kill me,
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as thou didst the
Egyptian yesterday?"
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Verse 29, "Then
Moses at this saying,
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Moses fled at this saying
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and was in... was a
stranger in the land of Midian,
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where he begat two sons. "
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So, he's in
Egypt for 40 years...
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and then as he comes
to assist his brethren
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and ends up
killing the Egyptian,
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and he's
discovered... he takes off
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and he's in the land of
Midian where he has two sons
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and then, verse 30 says,
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"And when forty
years were expired,
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there appeared to him in the
wilderness on the Mount Sinai
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and angel of the
Lord in a flame...
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in a flame of
fire in the bush. "
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So, there's another 40 years...
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you got your first 40 in Egypt,
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then you got the
second 40 at Midian.
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Verse 31, "When Moses saw
it, he wondered at the sight:
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and as he drew
near to behold it,
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the voice of the Lord
came unto him, saying,
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'And I am the
God of thy fathers,
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the God of Abraham,
and the God of Isaac,
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and the God of Jacob. "
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Then Moses trembled,
and durst not behold.
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And then said the Lord unto him,
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'Put off they
shoes from off thy feet:
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for the place wherein
I stand is holy ground.
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I have seen... '" verse 34,
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"I have seen the affliction
of my people which is in Egypt,
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and I have heard their groaning
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and am come
down to deliver them.
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And now come, I will
send thee unto Egypt. "
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And verse 35, so...
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"This Moses they refused saying,
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'who made thee a
ruler and a judge?'
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the same God did send to
be a ruler and a deliverer
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by the hand of the angel which
appeared to him in the bush. "
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Verse 36, "Then
He brought them out,
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after that, he had showed
wonders and signs in the land of
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Egypt, and in the Red sea, and
in the wilderness forty years. "
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So, there is the
last 40 years, Cyndi,
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you've got the
40 years in Egypt,
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you got the 40 years in Midian
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and then you've got the
40 years in the wilderness
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and so, the Bible tells
us that Moses was fourscore
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or 80 years old when
he went back to Egypt
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to deliver God's people...
that's Exodus 7 verse 7
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and then the Bible says
that Moses was a 120 years old
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when he died
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his eyes weren't dim, nor
his natural force abated. "
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That was Deuteronomy 34 verse 7.
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That's all the
verses... lays it out.
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Greg: Amen, excellent,
thank you so much, Pastor James.
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Pastor Ryan, good question here,
this one also comes from Sindy,
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a different
spelling. Ryan: Okay.
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Greg: But hers is with an
"S" but the question here:
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At the second
coming of our Lord Jesus,
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the wicked are asking for
the rocks to fall on them.
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What eventually happens to them?
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Do they go back to the
grave and await their Master
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who after a
1,000 years comes out
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and tries to take
the New Jerusalem?
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Ryan: Okay, so the
simple answer to this
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is that they're
destroyed... okay,
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I'm going to back
that up with Scripture now.
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This is what
Jesus is referencing
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in both Matthew 24
and Luke chapter 17.
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I'm not going to read
all the verses in Matthew 24
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but for the sake of time,
I'm going to start in Luke 17
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and we're going to
read verses 26 through 30.
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Notice what it
says here, it says,
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"As in the days of Noah,
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so shall also in the
days of the Son of Man:
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They did eat, they
drank, they married wives,
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they were given in marriage,
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until the day
Noah entered the ark,
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and the flood
came... " notice...
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"and... " what did it say?
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"destroyed them all. "
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This is speaking
of the wicked, right,
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"Likewise also as it
was in the days of Lot,
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they ate, they drank,
they bought, they sold,
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they planted, they builded
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but the same day
that Lot went out of Sodom
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it rained fire and
brimstone from heaven... "
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and... there it is again...
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"the wicked... it
destroyed them all.
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Even so shall it be when
the Son of Man is revealed. "
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So, these men that are crying
for the rocks to fall on them,
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this is within the context
of... of Revelation chapter 6
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in the sixth seal...
the second coming of Jesus.
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They're calling for
the rocks to fall on them
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because they are
ashamed of the fact
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that they rejected Jesus Christ
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and now they're
meeting their ultimate demise
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which is... their life
is being taken from them.
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Now, it's interesting...
Luke 17 passed this
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when you read verses 34 to 37...
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still within the context of
this destruction of the wicked,
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Jesus goes on to say...
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you know, there will
be two men in one bed...
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one will be
taken... one will be left...
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there will be two
women grinding together,
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one will be
taken... one will be left.
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There will be two
men in one field...
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one will be
left... one will be taken
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and then the disciples
ask this interesting question,
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they say, "Where Lord?"
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And, of course,
they're referencing
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where are those taken
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and those people that are taken
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is that their
lives are being taken.
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We know that
because of Jesus' response.
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In verse 37, He goes on to say,
00:11:11.50\00:11:14.47
"Where the body is,
00:11:14.50\00:11:15.84
there will the eagles
be gathered together. "
00:11:15.87\00:11:17.94
Now, if you look at
verse 28 in Matthew 24
00:11:17.97\00:11:20.18
which is the equivalent verse,
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Jesus actually says, "For
wheresoever the carcass is,
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there will the eagles
be gathered together. "
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What's a carcass?
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A carcass is
obviously a dead body
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so, what's happening at
the second coming of Jesus
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when these men
in those moments...
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in those
fearful horrific moments
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when they're
realizing what is happening...
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that they didn't
give their life to Jesus
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that they did not serve Him
and abide in Him in their life,
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they're
realizing what's happening
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and they would just
the rocks crush them
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than have to
face the Lamb of God
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who's returning to get them.
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And so, that's why in
2nd Thessalonians chapter 2,
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Paul, writing again about
the second coming of Jesus
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and the
redemption of God's people...
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in verse 8, he says there,
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this is 2nd
Thessalonians 2 verse 8,
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"And then shall
that wicked be revealed,
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whom the Lord shall consume
with the spirit of His mouth,
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and shall destroy with the
brightness of His coming. "
00:12:03.79\00:12:06.55
We see this within the context
of the seventh and final plague
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there in Revelation
chapter 16 where it says that
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there in verse 21, it says,
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"And there fell upon men
great hail out of heaven,
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every stone about
the weight of a talent:
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and men blasphemed God because
of the plague of the hail;
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for the plague thereof
was exceedingly great. "
00:12:19.73\00:12:21.84
This is destruction...
there are many, many texts,
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go read Isaiah chapter
24... Jeremiah chapter 4...
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talking about the
return of the Lord,
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the wicked did not go on to live
00:12:29.24\00:12:31.31
as some might believe for
seven years of tribulation,
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but rather, they're destroyed
at the second coming of Jesus.
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Greg: Hmmm... amen... thank
you very much, Pastor Ryan.
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Shelley, this question/comment
comes from Patricia
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from New York
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and it really is a
tragic... tragic question.
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It says, "My son suddenly
passed away two years ago
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and it's been devastating.
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I'm very worried
about his salvation
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and so I pray to God
to have mercy on him.
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In Exodus chapter 33
verse 19, the Lord said...
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and this is God speaking...
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"I will have mercy on
whom I will have mercy. "
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My nephew goes to
a Pentecost church
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and claims to speak in tongues
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and said that
to... and said to me
00:13:09.12\00:13:11.39
that when people die, they
go to heaven or hell right away
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and that me praying for my son
is equal to doing witchcraft.
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I disagree
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but is there anything
you can tell me about it?
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Panel: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Shelley: Patricia,
first I just want to say...
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my heart breaks for you.
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I can't imagine anything
worse than losing a child
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and the grief that follows that.
00:13:29.90\00:13:31.57
But I hope you
have a pen and a paper
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because the answer I
am going to give you...
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I want you to write all
these Scripture references down
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so that you can look them up
00:13:39.11\00:13:40.62
and be assured
it's a Biblical answer.
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In Exodus 33:19 God says,
00:13:42.65\00:13:45.55
"I'll have mercy on
whom I'll have mercy. "
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You have to look in context...
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He is speaking to a people
who have broken His covenant
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and... and they're no
longer in relationship with God
00:13:52.59\00:13:55.80
but He forgives them
00:13:55.83\00:13:57.47
and when He does it's still...
00:13:57.50\00:13:59.80
when He renews the relationship
00:13:59.83\00:14:02.00
it's still
requiring the same conditions
00:14:02.04\00:14:05.04
and obedience as before
00:14:05.07\00:14:07.18
and He still asked them
to obey his covenant law.
00:14:07.24\00:14:12.51
Now, let me say something,
00:14:12.55\00:14:13.88
I don't believe your nephew's
opinion is Scriptural at all.
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Here is the Scriptures
I want you to write down:
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in 1st Timothy
6:16 the Bible says,
00:14:22.16\00:14:25.16
"God alone has
immortality right now. "
00:14:25.19\00:14:29.13
1st John 5:11 and
12, it's talking about
00:14:29.16\00:14:32.97
that God has given eternal
life to those who have the Son.
00:14:33.00\00:14:38.64
If you are in Christ, it says,
"He who has the Son has life,
00:14:38.67\00:14:44.28
he who does not have the
Son does not have life. "
00:14:44.31\00:14:48.48
So, it's something that we
secure during our earthly life,
00:14:48.55\00:14:52.05
but we fully realize
after the resurrection.
00:14:52.09\00:14:55.52
1st Corinthians
15:51 through 54 explains
00:14:55.56\00:14:58.93
that when Christ returns
at the sound of the trumpet,
00:14:58.96\00:15:03.57
that's when we put on
immortality if we are a believer
00:15:03.63\00:15:08.20
as we come up in
the first resurrection
00:15:08.24\00:15:11.67
and John chapter
5 verses 28 and 29,
00:15:11.71\00:15:14.48
Jesus said,
"Don't marvel at this,
00:15:14.51\00:15:17.25
there's a day that is coming
00:15:17.28\00:15:18.88
that all who are in their
grave will hear His voice.
00:15:18.91\00:15:22.28
Some will come forward
to the resurrection of life.
00:15:22.32\00:15:25.62
Others come forward to the
resurrection of condemnation.
00:15:25.65\00:15:30.63
Those are
separated by a 1,000 years.
00:15:30.66\00:15:33.46
Ecclesiastes chapter 9...
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Ecclesiastes... let
me say that one again,
00:15:37.27\00:15:40.90
Ecclesiastes chapter 9 verses
5 and 10 are two mini Scriptures
00:15:40.94\00:15:47.01
that talk about
when we are dead...
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we have an unconscious sleep.
00:15:51.45\00:15:53.78
And, you know, I
love this Scripture
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in 1st Corinthians 15:17 and 18,
00:15:56.32\00:15:59.05
Paul is telling
the people who...
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some were telling him,
"Oh, Christ isn't resurrected. "
00:16:01.79\00:16:05.03
He says, "Hey if Christ isn't
risen, your faith is futile;
00:16:05.06\00:16:08.26
and all who have
fallen asleep... "
00:16:08.30\00:16:10.77
that's a metaphor for death...
00:16:10.80\00:16:13.13
"in Christ have perished. "
00:16:13.17\00:16:15.44
So, he didn't see
people up in heaven...
00:16:15.47\00:16:17.64
he knew there was no
life until the resurrection.
00:16:17.67\00:16:20.51
But now, here is the
difficult thing to tell you
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and I will soften it at the end.
00:16:23.35\00:16:25.91
There's no
opportunity after death
00:16:25.98\00:16:28.55
to have a second
chance of salvation.
00:16:28.58\00:16:31.09
We have already determined
our destiny before we die.
00:16:31.12\00:16:35.36
Hebrews 9:27 says,
00:16:35.39\00:16:37.79
"It is appointed
for men to die once,
00:16:37.83\00:16:40.46
but after this the judgment. "
00:16:40.50\00:16:41.83
There's no purgatory...
that is a pagan philosophy.
00:16:41.86\00:16:45.77
There's no hellfire
till the end of the earth
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when God will create a
Lake of Fire on the earth
00:16:50.17\00:16:54.44
and in Revelation
20 verses 14 and 15,
00:16:54.48\00:16:59.81
that fire is referred to
00:16:59.85\00:17:02.08
as the second death.
00:17:02.12\00:17:04.35
Anyone whose name is
not in the Book of Life...
00:17:04.39\00:17:06.76
it is a second death.
00:17:06.79\00:17:09.36
They're ashes... they
are totally destroyed.
00:17:09.42\00:17:12.19
So, here is what
I want to tell you.
00:17:12.23\00:17:14.00
Your son is in the grave...
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he is unconscious... awaiting...
00:17:15.43\00:17:17.87
you don't know what
he did the last second...
00:17:17.90\00:17:20.04
he could have been
like the thief on the cross
00:17:20.07\00:17:22.17
and accepted Christ
00:17:22.20\00:17:23.77
but if he rejected God, your son
would not be happy in heaven...
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he would prefer to perish.
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Greg: Hmmm...
wow... thank you Shelley
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and thank you for all
the Scripture references,
00:17:34.68\00:17:36.02
you know, as
well... and Patricia...
00:17:36.05\00:17:38.05
it's a great answer.
00:17:38.09\00:17:39.42
Patricia, we want you to know
that all of us here at 3ABN...
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will continue to
lift you up in prayer
00:17:42.89\00:17:44.23
because a loss like that...
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as Shelley mentioned... a loss
of a child is so devastating
00:17:45.63\00:17:48.06
so, we will continue to
pray for you in that loss.
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Pastor James, a question
here from Melinda from Michigan.
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James: Okay.
00:17:55.30\00:17:56.64
Greg: And, the book of James...
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it's fit into
your name, isn't it,
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okay, "So, the book of James...
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the book of James
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says, we ought to
confess our sins to one another.
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Would that read better
as confess our 'faults'
00:18:08.02\00:18:11.12
to each other
00:18:11.15\00:18:12.49
as our 'sins' are
to be confessed to God
00:18:12.52\00:18:14.22
and God alone?"
00:18:14.26\00:18:15.66
James: All right,
Melinda in Michigan,
00:18:15.69\00:18:17.96
yes, that would be a great
translation... faults not sins,
00:18:17.99\00:18:21.86
in fact, the
translation of the KJV
00:18:21.93\00:18:25.40
is really good
in relation to this,
00:18:25.43\00:18:27.84
you know, being
raised a Catholic,
00:18:27.87\00:18:29.97
I'm sensitive to
this issue because
00:18:30.01\00:18:32.07
I was raised...
going to church...
00:18:32.11\00:18:34.08
and confessing sins to
another man... a priest,
00:18:34.11\00:18:36.95
in order to get
absolution or forgiveness.
00:18:36.98\00:18:39.85
so I recognize the
sensitivity of this issue.
00:18:39.88\00:18:42.72
The word "faults"
is actually translated
00:18:42.75\00:18:45.65
from a different Greek word...
it means to slide or slip
00:18:45.69\00:18:50.23
excuse me... to slide... slip...
00:18:50.26\00:18:52.16
unintentional
error or transgression.
00:18:52.19\00:18:55.03
"Sin" has a completely
different origin than "faults. "
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It means... to
miss the mark or to sin.
00:18:58.73\00:19:01.14
So... but with
that said, however,
00:19:01.20\00:19:03.54
I don't want to place too
much emphasis on the Greek.
00:19:03.57\00:19:07.81
There's a lot of
times we can get misdirected
00:19:07.84\00:19:11.51
when we place a lot of emphasis
on Greek translations...
00:19:11.55\00:19:14.72
Greek words...
especially when we consider
00:19:14.78\00:19:16.79
that the Greek word for "faults"
00:19:16.82\00:19:18.32
in James 5:16 is
used in a number of places
00:19:18.35\00:19:21.89
in the New Testament for
sin and for transgression
00:19:21.92\00:19:24.63
and for offenses that
are forgiven by Christ.
00:19:24.66\00:19:26.70
So, we don't want to say,
00:19:26.73\00:19:28.66
"Wow! this is really talking
about sin and transgression.
00:19:28.70\00:19:31.37
In James chapter 5...
00:19:31.40\00:19:33.03
it's just talking about
something a little different. "
00:19:33.07\00:19:35.40
There is a little bit of
nuance there with the Greek
00:19:35.44\00:19:37.71
but the more significant point
that is being made by James
00:19:37.74\00:19:41.44
is that while our sins are
to be confessed to God alone,
00:19:41.51\00:19:45.11
who is the only one who can
actually forgive us our sins
00:19:45.15\00:19:48.75
on salvational level,
00:19:48.78\00:19:50.29
if those sins are
committed against individuals,
00:19:50.32\00:19:53.36
we should ask those individuals
for forgiveness also.
00:19:53.39\00:19:57.56
That's the
process of confession...
00:19:57.59\00:19:59.89
we need to
personally go to individuals
00:19:59.93\00:20:02.20
that we may have sinned against
and ask them to forgive us.
00:20:02.23\00:20:04.30
Now, note this point with care,
00:20:04.33\00:20:06.57
When you ask an
individual to forgive you,
00:20:06.60\00:20:09.44
that's not a salvational level,
00:20:09.47\00:20:10.91
an individual can never forgive
you on a salvational level.
00:20:10.94\00:20:14.48
Only God can forgive
us on a salvational level.
00:20:14.51\00:20:18.45
Greg: Excellent... thank
you so very much Pastor James,
00:20:18.48\00:20:21.95
great answer.
00:20:21.98\00:20:23.32
You know, it's so comforting
to find answers from God's Word.
00:20:23.35\00:20:26.02
Panel: That's right... yeah...
00:20:26.05\00:20:27.39
Greg: Something we can stand on
00:20:27.42\00:20:28.76
and going back to that question
that the lady had... Patricia...
00:20:28.79\00:20:31.19
do you know we can trust in
the Righteous Judge too, right,
00:20:31.23\00:20:34.13
God knows everything, yeah,
so praise the Lord, thank you,
00:20:34.16\00:20:36.77
great answer.
00:20:36.80\00:20:38.13
Let's see,
Pastor Ryan, this is...
00:20:38.17\00:20:41.00
this person is from
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania,
00:20:41.04\00:20:43.64
and it's a
beautiful name and I...
00:20:43.67\00:20:45.64
I don't know, trying
to pronounce this here,
00:20:45.67\00:20:47.74
you can help me out
on this Pastor Ryan,
00:20:47.81\00:20:50.78
looks like
Sephan... Sus... Sysouphanh...
00:20:50.81\00:20:53.38
beautiful name
though from Philadelphia.
00:20:53.42\00:20:55.95
What do you think, Pastor Ryan?
00:20:55.98\00:20:57.32
Ryan: I think that's... I
think you did a good job...
00:20:57.35\00:20:59.05
something like that.
00:20:59.09\00:21:00.42
Greg: Yeah but thank
you so much for submitting,
00:21:00.46\00:21:01.89
great question here:
00:21:01.92\00:21:03.32
Do you guys think it's wrong
to excommunicate sinful people
00:21:03.36\00:21:06.86
from the church?
00:21:06.90\00:21:08.23
Therefore, if we
follow the Holy Bible
00:21:08.26\00:21:10.73
and the examples of Jesus Christ
00:21:10.77\00:21:12.80
shouldn't the church
follow the Biblical truth
00:21:12.83\00:21:15.00
and let the Lord Jesus Christ
do the sifting and gathering?
00:21:15.07\00:21:18.57
Why do churches put
guilt, shame and condemnation
00:21:18.61\00:21:22.58
on the people who are
already spiritually lacking?
00:21:22.61\00:21:25.15
Ryan: Okay, all right, so,
00:21:25.18\00:21:27.05
first of all, I
want to say straight up
00:21:27.08\00:21:28.82
we should always... and I
think the church absolutely
00:21:28.85\00:21:31.95
should always seek for a
redemptive plan of restoration.
00:21:31.99\00:21:35.69
We should always be as gracious
and forgiving as Jesus is, right
00:21:35.72\00:21:40.10
but nonetheless, we
also have to keep in mind
00:21:40.16\00:21:42.30
that even the God of the
universe had to excommunicate
00:21:42.36\00:21:45.77
or banish or disfellowship
someone from his own kingdom.
00:21:45.80\00:21:49.20
We know that was Lucifer
00:21:49.24\00:21:50.57
along with one-third of
the fallen angels from heaven,
00:21:50.61\00:21:52.67
but that did not come
before Christ had provided
00:21:52.71\00:21:55.38
an
opportunity... sufficient time
00:21:55.41\00:21:57.31
for Lucifer and
those angels to repent
00:21:57.35\00:21:59.55
and to confess and to be
brought back into the fold.
00:21:59.58\00:22:02.15
But that being said, the direct
answer to your question here
00:22:02.18\00:22:05.39
"Do we think that
it's wrong to excommunicate
00:22:05.42\00:22:07.69
or in this case to disfellowship
sinful people from the church?
00:22:07.72\00:22:10.19
There are appropriate times
when the Bible does counsel us
00:22:10.23\00:22:13.90
indeed to do that
when it's extreme cases.
00:22:13.93\00:22:16.77
For instance, when a person is
habitually committing open sin
00:22:16.80\00:22:20.94
before the brethren
00:22:21.00\00:22:22.34
potentially
causing stumbling block
00:22:22.37\00:22:23.71
or in this case
00:22:23.74\00:22:25.07
maybe even dividing
the flock of the church.
00:22:25.11\00:22:26.61
That's when we have to
practice Matthew chapter 18...
00:22:26.64\00:22:29.04
the counsel given there.
00:22:29.08\00:22:30.41
Matthew 18 verses
15 through 17 says,
00:22:30.45\00:22:32.31
"Moreover if your
brother sins against you,
00:22:32.35\00:22:34.65
go and tell him his fault
between you and him alone.
00:22:34.68\00:22:37.19
If he hears you, you
have gained your brother.
00:22:37.22\00:22:39.22
But if he will not hear,
take with you one or two more"
00:22:39.25\00:22:43.06
that's Elders...
Pastor from the church,
00:22:43.09\00:22:45.39
but, notice that by the
mouth of two or three witnesses
00:22:45.43\00:22:48.00
every word may be established.
00:22:48.03\00:22:49.40
But then comes verse 17,
00:22:49.43\00:22:50.77
"And if he refuses to hear
them, tell it to the church.
00:22:50.80\00:22:53.44
But if he refuses
even to hear the church,
00:22:53.47\00:22:55.40
let him be to you like a
heathen and a tax collector. "
00:22:55.44\00:22:58.77
Look at the... at the...
00:22:58.81\00:23:00.14
back at the
culture of Jesus' day
00:23:00.18\00:23:03.51
even the tax
collector... they were...
00:23:03.55\00:23:05.61
they were separate
from everyone else...
00:23:05.65\00:23:07.65
they were considered as on
the low end of the totem pole.
00:23:07.68\00:23:10.49
In other words, they were...
00:23:10.52\00:23:11.85
they would keep themselves
distanced from these people.
00:23:11.89\00:23:13.82
Also, in 1st
Corinthians chapter 5
00:23:13.86\00:23:16.29
there's a lot to be
said here where Paul writes,
00:23:16.32\00:23:18.16
in just the opening first five
verses, notice what he says,
00:23:18.19\00:23:21.03
1st Corinthians 5
verses 1 through 5,
00:23:21.06\00:23:22.96
"It is actually reported... "
00:23:23.00\00:23:24.70
this is Paul
speaking to the church...
00:23:24.73\00:23:26.40
he said, "It is reported
that there is sexual immorality
00:23:26.43\00:23:28.64
among you, and
such sexual immorality
00:23:28.67\00:23:31.44
as is not even named
among the Gentiles...
00:23:31.47\00:23:34.48
that a man has
his father's wife!
00:23:34.51\00:23:36.78
And you are puffed up,
and have not rather mourned,
00:23:36.81\00:23:39.55
that he who has... " notice...
00:23:39.58\00:23:41.12
"done this deed
00:23:41.15\00:23:42.48
might be taken
away from among you. "
00:23:42.52\00:23:44.89
Okay, and he goes on to say,
00:23:44.92\00:23:46.72
"For I indeed, as absent
in body but present in spirit,
00:23:46.76\00:23:49.62
have already judged...
as though I were present...
00:23:49.66\00:23:51.86
him who has so done this deed. "
00:23:51.89\00:23:53.96
He goes on to say,
00:23:54.00\00:23:55.33
"In the name of
our Lord Jesus Christ,
00:23:55.36\00:23:56.70
when you are gathered
together, along with my spirit,
00:23:56.73\00:23:58.97
with the power of
our Lord Jesus Christ,
00:23:59.00\00:24:00.64
deliver such a one to Satan
00:24:00.67\00:24:03.74
for the
destruction of the flesh,
00:24:03.77\00:24:05.41
that his spirit may be saved
in the day of the Lord Jesus. "
00:24:05.44\00:24:08.84
And then he goes on
down a few more verses
00:24:08.88\00:24:11.28
in verses 9 through 13,
00:24:11.31\00:24:12.68
and again, all of this is
in 1st Corinthians chapter 5,
00:24:12.71\00:24:15.18
so, now you go down
to verses 9 through 13,
00:24:15.22\00:24:17.29
and he talks about...
00:24:17.32\00:24:18.65
how... he says, "I
wrote to you in my epistle
00:24:18.69\00:24:20.36
not to keep company with
sexually immoral people... "
00:24:20.39\00:24:22.96
and then he... down
in verse 11 he says,
00:24:23.02\00:24:25.09
"but now I've written to you
not to keep company with anyone
00:24:25.13\00:24:27.90
named a brother... "
00:24:27.93\00:24:29.26
he's talking about a
brother in the church...
00:24:29.30\00:24:30.63
your... your brother in Christ,
so, a member of the church...
00:24:30.67\00:24:33.34
he goes on to describe,
"who is sexually immoral,
00:24:33.37\00:24:35.67
or covetous, or an idolater,
00:24:35.70\00:24:37.21
or a reviler, or a
drunkard, or an extortioner...
00:24:37.24\00:24:39.57
not even to eat
with such a person. "
00:24:39.61\00:24:41.28
He says, "Don't
even eat with them. "
00:24:41.31\00:24:42.74
"For what have I to do
with judging those who...
00:24:42.78\00:24:45.68
who are outside?
00:24:45.71\00:24:47.05
Do you not judge
those who are inside?
00:24:47.08\00:24:50.02
But those who are
outside God judges. "
00:24:50.09\00:24:52.72
And then he says,
00:24:52.75\00:24:54.09
"Therefore put away from
yourselves the evil person. "
00:24:54.12\00:24:57.03
So, are there
opportunities in Scripture
00:24:57.06\00:24:58.73
that the Scripture counsels us
00:24:58.79\00:25:01.00
that there may be
times when we have to
00:25:01.06\00:25:02.76
make these tough decisions
and say, "Brother" or "Sister,
00:25:02.80\00:25:05.33
we've given you opportunity
to change... to repent...
00:25:05.37\00:25:07.90
but you are...
you are rebellious. "
00:25:07.94\00:25:09.44
Sometimes we have to be
brought to those situations...
00:25:09.47\00:25:11.77
just a couple of Scriptures
I'm going to reference here
00:25:11.81\00:25:13.88
in the last 20 seconds, I
have... I'm not going to read it
00:25:13.94\00:25:15.98
but read what Romans
chapter 16 verses 17 through 20
00:25:16.01\00:25:19.48
where he talks
about noting those
00:25:19.51\00:25:20.92
who cause divisions and
offenses within the Brethren
00:25:20.95\00:25:23.65
and then, of course, Acts
chapter 20 verses 28 to 30,
00:25:23.69\00:25:26.29
remember Paul talks about...
we are overseers of God's church
00:25:26.32\00:25:29.52
and that we have to protect
those who come in as wolves
00:25:29.56\00:25:32.13
to divide the flock.
00:25:32.16\00:25:33.50
So, yes, there
are appropriate times
00:25:33.53\00:25:34.96
in which we have
to take these actions.
00:25:35.00\00:25:36.33
Greg: Hmmm... yeah...
excellent explanation on that
00:25:36.36\00:25:38.03
and I would like to say at
the beginning too, Pastor Ryan,
00:25:38.07\00:25:40.14
that is... deal
redemptively that's the first...
00:25:40.17\00:25:42.57
absolutely... praise the Lord.
00:25:42.60\00:25:44.51
Very good... good question too.
00:25:44.54\00:25:46.98
Sister Shelley,
this person asks:
00:25:47.01\00:25:49.41
Am I sinning if I don't
take part in foot washing,
00:25:49.44\00:25:53.28
but in the bread
and grape juice only?
00:25:53.31\00:25:56.48
I don't mind
washing someone else's feet
00:25:56.52\00:25:58.59
but I'm embarrassed
to let anyone see mine?
00:25:58.62\00:26:02.42
Shelley: Okay,
let me just say this,
00:26:02.46\00:26:04.66
I remember like it was yesterday
my first foot-washing service
00:26:04.69\00:26:09.20
and I was so happy to stoop and
wash the feet of an 90-year old
00:26:09.23\00:26:13.70
matriarchal saint in the church.
00:26:13.74\00:26:15.54
But boy! when she
washed mine, it was humbling.
00:26:15.57\00:26:19.64
It was an
interesting experience.
00:26:19.67\00:26:22.28
In John 13:5 through
10, at the Last Supper
00:26:22.34\00:26:26.35
when Jesus instituted
the Ordinance of Communion.
00:26:26.38\00:26:31.89
What He did is He
poured water in a basin,
00:26:31.92\00:26:34.22
put a towel around His waist
00:26:34.26\00:26:35.86
and then He's going around
and washing the disciples' feet.
00:26:35.89\00:26:40.23
This was a servant's task...
00:26:40.26\00:26:43.63
He gets to Peter...
00:26:43.67\00:26:45.00
Peter says, "Oh no Lord,
00:26:45.03\00:26:46.47
You're not going to
wash my feet... never. "
00:26:46.50\00:26:49.37
And He says, "Hey if
I don't wash your feet,
00:26:49.40\00:26:52.24
you have no part in me. "
00:26:52.27\00:26:54.54
Now, Peter goes to
the extreme and says,
00:26:54.58\00:26:56.78
"Oh, well... not just my
feet... but my head also...
00:26:56.81\00:26:59.51
wash me all over. "
00:26:59.55\00:27:01.52
And so, Jesus answers,
00:27:01.55\00:27:03.45
"He who is bathed
needs only to wash his feet,
00:27:03.49\00:27:06.05
he is completely clean;
00:27:06.09\00:27:07.86
and you are clean,
but not all of you. "
00:27:07.89\00:27:10.53
Now, let me explain this,
00:27:10.56\00:27:11.89
the service of foot washing
is something that symbolizes
00:27:11.93\00:27:17.23
cleaning after we
have been baptized.
00:27:17.27\00:27:21.70
It's a symbolic thing.
00:27:21.74\00:27:23.34
Baptism is like our
justification by faith...
00:27:23.41\00:27:26.61
foot washing is like
sanctification by faith
00:27:26.64\00:27:29.81
because they were
clean and we're clean
00:27:29.84\00:27:33.08
but our daily walk
our feet get sullied.
00:27:33.11\00:27:36.28
So, the act of washing
your feet is meant to humble us
00:27:36.32\00:27:42.12
and it is the
perfect preparatory part
00:27:42.16\00:27:46.90
of Communion Service
00:27:46.93\00:27:48.26
but I have to say,
00:27:48.30\00:27:49.63
it only has merit if
we've already confessed our sins
00:27:49.66\00:27:53.80
before the Lord.
00:27:53.84\00:27:55.40
John 13:14, Jesus
said in this same context,
00:27:55.44\00:28:01.64
"If I then, your Lord and
Teacher, have washed your feet,
00:28:01.68\00:28:05.31
you also ought to
wash one another's feet. "
00:28:05.35\00:28:10.35
In the Greek, that word
"ought" is obligatory...
00:28:10.39\00:28:14.06
you are obliged...
00:28:14.09\00:28:15.49
you are... you owe
it as a duty to do this
00:28:15.52\00:28:19.76
and then He says in
verse 15, John 13:15,
00:28:19.79\00:28:23.97
"For I have
given you an example,
00:28:24.00\00:28:25.63
that you should do as
I have done for you. "
00:28:25.67\00:28:29.40
And as I said, this is a
beautiful preparatory part
00:28:29.44\00:28:32.94
of a Communion Service.
00:28:32.97\00:28:34.84
The one who
stoops to wash the feet
00:28:34.91\00:28:37.81
following in Jesus' footsteps.
00:28:37.85\00:28:39.85
The one whose feet are
washed, they are humbled
00:28:39.88\00:28:44.05
and He says in verse 17,
00:28:44.09\00:28:46.45
"If you know these things,
00:28:46.49\00:28:47.99
blessed are you
if you do them. "
00:28:48.02\00:28:50.43
So, here's what I
want to say to you,
00:28:50.46\00:28:52.73
if there is a condition about
your feet that is embarrassing,
00:28:52.76\00:28:57.13
that you don't want
your feet to be seen,
00:28:57.17\00:28:59.57
put on some thin nylon socks
00:28:59.60\00:29:04.01
and participate in
the foot washing service
00:29:04.07\00:29:08.11
with those nylon socks on.
00:29:08.14\00:29:09.61
Greg: Hmmm... hmmm...
00:29:09.64\00:29:11.25
yeah, that's
really good Shelley,
00:29:11.28\00:29:12.61
thank you for that answer
00:29:12.65\00:29:13.98
and I know I've done some
foot washing with someone...
00:29:14.02\00:29:15.35
a gentleman that
wore his socks actually
00:29:15.38\00:29:17.79
but that was... that's
okay, so thank you so much
00:29:17.82\00:29:20.36
for Scriptural
references too for that.
00:29:20.39\00:29:22.46
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Pastor James,
we're coming to you next,
00:30:09.80\00:30:12.87
Sherrie from
Pittsburg, Pennsylvania.
00:30:12.91\00:30:15.98
James: All right.
00:30:16.01\00:30:17.51
Greg: This is the question.
00:30:17.55\00:30:18.88
Satan was cast
out of heaven to earth
00:30:18.91\00:30:20.38
before Adam and
Eve were created,
00:30:20.42\00:30:22.48
but it says woe to the
inhabitants of the Earth.
00:30:22.52\00:30:25.15
Who was dwelling on
the Earth at this time?
00:30:25.19\00:30:27.39
They said, "This was
at a different time. "
00:30:27.42\00:30:29.72
A different time
before God created the earth?
00:30:29.76\00:30:32.29
What does that
mean... a different time?
00:30:32.33\00:30:34.43
I heard this on
Salvation, Symbols and Signs
00:30:34.46\00:30:37.53
Program Number 50 at
about the 16-minute mark.
00:30:37.57\00:30:41.20
That's a Program on 3ABN.
00:30:41.24\00:30:42.60
It would be great if
Pastor James could answer this
00:30:42.64\00:30:45.81
since he was
teaching this. Thank you.
00:30:45.84\00:30:48.01
He reference John
chapter 12:31 through 32.
00:30:48.04\00:30:51.05
Great question Sherrie.
00:30:51.08\00:30:52.51
James:
Excellent question Sherrie
00:30:52.55\00:30:54.22
from Pittsburg, Pennsylvania.
00:30:54.25\00:30:55.68
Thank you for that question,
00:30:55.72\00:30:57.09
yes, we did reference
that in Revelation chapter 12
00:30:57.12\00:30:59.79
so, we'll take a look
at Revelation chapter 12
00:30:59.82\00:31:01.82
just an overview of
Revelation chapter 12,
00:31:01.86\00:31:03.83
so, Revelation 12:1 through 5,
00:31:03.86\00:31:06.19
is a basic summary
of the salvation plan
00:31:06.26\00:31:09.26
that God has put in
effect for all of us.
00:31:09.30\00:31:12.27
The woman there is great with
child... the child being Christ,
00:31:12.30\00:31:15.14
the woman
representing the church...
00:31:15.17\00:31:16.71
specifically, the church of
Israel... the Jewish church.
00:31:16.74\00:31:19.47
Christ is born...
00:31:19.51\00:31:20.84
the dragon... Satan... tries to
destroy Him as soon as He's born
00:31:20.88\00:31:23.81
that takes place through Herod
when Christ was just a child
00:31:23.85\00:31:27.38
and then, it says that the
child is caught up to heaven.
00:31:27.42\00:31:30.92
Of course, we don't
have the details or the fact
00:31:30.99\00:31:33.72
that Christ lived and
died to save us from our sins.
00:31:33.76\00:31:36.19
It just says... He is
caught up to heaven, in verse 5,
00:31:36.22\00:31:38.49
and the woman in verse 6
flees into the wilderness.
00:31:38.53\00:31:40.80
Then you transition
into another section...
00:31:40.83\00:31:43.03
Revelation chapter
12 verses 7 through 9
00:31:43.06\00:31:45.23
takes us back to
the war in heaven
00:31:45.30\00:31:47.07
and really it's an explanation
of why Christ had to come...
00:31:47.10\00:31:50.71
be born of the
Jewish church and redeem us
00:31:50.74\00:31:53.01
because there was a
war that began in heaven
00:31:53.04\00:31:55.24
between Michael and His angels
and the devil and his angels
00:31:55.31\00:31:58.15
and they fought and that
devil was cast out of heaven.
00:31:58.18\00:32:00.62
That's the "cast
out" you are referring to.
00:32:00.65\00:32:02.88
That's the "cast out"
that we're all familiar with...
00:32:02.92\00:32:05.02
that's the "cast out"
where Satan is physically
00:32:05.05\00:32:07.19
removed from heaven.
00:32:07.22\00:32:08.72
The problem with him
being physically removed
00:32:08.76\00:32:11.29
is that there is still a
little bit of sympathy there,
00:32:11.33\00:32:13.80
there are still a few
questions that are unanswered
00:32:13.86\00:32:16.06
in the minds of angels.
00:32:16.10\00:32:17.47
In fact, one-third of the
angels are actually deceived
00:32:17.50\00:32:19.73
and go with him...
00:32:19.80\00:32:21.14
the other angels
need clarification.
00:32:21.17\00:32:23.20
God cast him out but
God still has to clarify
00:32:23.24\00:32:26.51
this whole issue about
Satan and his accusations
00:32:26.54\00:32:29.44
against God's throne.
00:32:29.51\00:32:30.85
So, Jesus just
doesn't come to redeem us...
00:32:30.88\00:32:33.42
Jesus also comes
to bring clarification
00:32:33.45\00:32:35.92
to who God is...
what He is really like
00:32:35.95\00:32:38.32
to God's justice and His
mercy... to His character.
00:32:38.35\00:32:41.62
That's what we see
taking place in the next verse.
00:32:41.66\00:32:44.86
In order to
understand the next verse,
00:32:44.89\00:32:47.10
that is Revelation 12 verse 10,
00:32:47.13\00:32:49.13
we need to go to John
chapter 12 verses 31 and 32
00:32:49.16\00:32:53.13
and that's what
we'll do right now.
00:32:53.20\00:32:54.57
John 12:31 and 32 says this...
00:32:54.60\00:32:56.87
and Jesus here is
going to the cross...
00:32:56.91\00:32:58.41
He's going to make the
final sacrifice and He says,
00:32:58.44\00:33:02.01
John chapter 12:31, "Now
is the judgment of this world;
00:33:02.04\00:33:05.61
now shall the prince
of this world be cast out.
00:33:05.65\00:33:08.72
And I, if I be
lifted up from the earth,
00:33:08.75\00:33:11.12
will draw all men unto me. "
00:33:11.15\00:33:13.29
So, really verse 5 where Christ
is taken up into heaven...
00:33:13.32\00:33:17.69
that verse takes
place after what we read
00:33:17.73\00:33:20.70
in John chapter 12:31
and 32, Jesus is crucified
00:33:20.73\00:33:24.27
and when He's
crucified, guess what?
00:33:24.30\00:33:25.67
Satan is unmasked.
00:33:25.70\00:33:27.04
The character of
Satan is revealed
00:33:27.07\00:33:29.30
before the unfallen universe
00:33:29.34\00:33:30.71
and they see him
for who he really is.
00:33:30.74\00:33:32.41
Their questions
are all answered.
00:33:32.47\00:33:33.91
Now, he's come selfish...
00:33:33.98\00:33:35.31
he's cast out
of... not only physically
00:33:35.34\00:33:36.71
but he's cast
out of the sympathies
00:33:36.75\00:33:38.38
of the unfallen world
00:33:38.41\00:33:39.75
but woe to the
inhabitants of the earth,
00:33:39.78\00:33:41.22
we have yet to learn
00:33:41.25\00:33:43.08
what the unfallen
universe has learned
00:33:43.12\00:33:44.72
about the character of Satan.
00:33:44.75\00:33:46.09
We still have
sympathy with the devil...
00:33:46.12\00:33:47.92
as the old
Rolling Stone song says
00:33:47.96\00:33:50.16
and God is seeking through
the revelation of Jesus Christ,
00:33:50.19\00:33:53.66
lifting up Jesus Christ to
remove all of those sympathies,
00:33:53.70\00:33:56.50
the sympathies that are removed
from the unfallen universe
00:33:56.53\00:33:59.03
to remove all the sympathies
from the fallen universe.
00:33:59.07\00:34:01.50
Greg: Hmmm... excellent,
00:34:01.57\00:34:02.94
thank you for that clarification
Pastor James, praise the Lord.
00:34:02.97\00:34:05.44
James: Amen.
00:34:05.47\00:34:06.81
Greg: This question comes from
00:34:06.84\00:34:10.85
see, let me make
sure I get this right,
00:34:10.88\00:34:12.45
Tony... Nashville, Tennessee.
00:34:12.48\00:34:15.45
It's not too far away from 3ABN.
00:34:15.48\00:34:18.62
It says: We know that
every eye shall see Jesus
00:34:18.65\00:34:21.19
when He returns.
00:34:21.22\00:34:23.16
But for those
that crucified Him,
00:34:23.19\00:34:24.86
will there be a
special resurrection
00:34:24.89\00:34:26.53
or will they rise
with those in the first one
00:34:26.56\00:34:28.96
one... in order to
seek Christ actually come
00:34:29.00\00:34:31.30
and then go back to the
grave to awake with the wicked?
00:34:31.33\00:34:35.47
Thank you.
00:34:35.50\00:34:36.84
Ryan: Okay, thank you so
much, Tony, for that question
00:34:36.87\00:34:39.04
and the answer is very clear.
00:34:39.07\00:34:40.41
I'm going to provide two or
three texts here to support this
00:34:40.44\00:34:42.91
but the direct
answer to your question is,
00:34:42.94\00:34:44.71
yes, there is a Special
Resurrection that will occur
00:34:44.75\00:34:48.12
of the wicked at the
second coming of Jesus
00:34:48.15\00:34:51.22
for those
individuals who participated
00:34:51.25\00:34:53.92
or had anything to do with
the crucifixion of Jesus Christ.
00:34:53.96\00:34:57.16
So, first I want to
start in Daniel chapter 12,
00:34:57.19\00:35:00.10
just to set the
foundation for this,
00:35:00.13\00:35:01.83
Daniel chapter
12 verses 1 and 2,
00:35:01.86\00:35:03.50
this is within the
context of those events
00:35:03.57\00:35:05.77
leading up to the
second coming of Christ...
00:35:05.80\00:35:07.90
it says there,
00:35:07.94\00:35:09.47
"And at that time
Michael shall stand up,
00:35:09.50\00:35:10.84
the great prince who stands
00:35:10.87\00:35:12.44
watch over the
sons of your people;
00:35:12.47\00:35:13.81
and there shall
be a time of trouble,
00:35:13.84\00:35:15.18
such as never was
since there was a nation,
00:35:15.21\00:35:17.51
even to that time.
00:35:17.55\00:35:18.88
And at that time your
people shall be delivered,
00:35:18.91\00:35:21.48
everyone who is found
written in the book. "
00:35:21.52\00:35:24.29
So, that's the righteous, right?
00:35:24.32\00:35:25.65
The people whose
names are written
00:35:25.69\00:35:27.02
in the Lamb's book of life.
00:35:27.06\00:35:28.39
But then, verse 2
comes within the context
00:35:28.42\00:35:29.76
of that glorious appearing
of Jesus in the clouds.
00:35:29.79\00:35:31.99
It says, "And many of those who
sleep in the dust of the earth
00:35:32.06\00:35:35.66
shall awake... "
00:35:35.70\00:35:37.03
okay, we know this
to be the... you know...
00:35:37.07\00:35:38.93
within the context of
1st Thessalonians chapter 4
00:35:38.97\00:35:41.30
where it says, "The dead in
Christ shall rise first... "
00:35:41.34\00:35:43.54
1st Corinthians chapter
15, "We shall not all sleep,
00:35:43.57\00:35:45.74
we shall all be
changed... in a moment,
00:35:45.77\00:35:47.28
in the twinkling of an eye... "
00:35:47.34\00:35:48.68
I think it's verse 51
there in 1st Corinthians 15,
00:35:48.71\00:35:50.91
So this is... we
know the righteous
00:35:50.95\00:35:52.45
at the second coming of Jesus
00:35:52.48\00:35:53.82
will come forth
out of their graves
00:35:53.85\00:35:55.55
but the majority of the dead...
00:35:55.58\00:35:57.29
they... they are destroyed...
00:35:57.32\00:35:58.75
those who are
alive are destroyed
00:35:58.79\00:36:00.12
by the brightness of His coming
00:36:00.16\00:36:01.49
according to 2nd Thessalonians
chapter 2 there... verse 8,
00:36:01.52\00:36:04.16
but also there... it
makes it very clear that
00:36:04.19\00:36:06.83
the righteous that are
already dead in the grave...
00:36:06.86\00:36:09.06
well, they remain in the graves
00:36:09.13\00:36:10.47
except for a
specific group of people.
00:36:10.50\00:36:12.60
it goes on to say
there in verse 2...
00:36:12.63\00:36:14.74
did I say: righteous...
00:36:14.77\00:36:16.10
I mean:
unrighteous is what I meant...
00:36:16.14\00:36:17.47
thank you for that correction.
00:36:17.51\00:36:18.84
Verse 2 of
Daniel 12 here it says:
00:36:18.87\00:36:20.21
"And many of those who
sleep in the dust of the earth
00:36:20.24\00:36:21.81
shall awake, some to
everlasting life... "
00:36:21.84\00:36:23.48
okay... but then
it goes on to say,
00:36:23.51\00:36:24.85
"Some to shame and
everlasting contempt. "
00:36:24.88\00:36:27.52
Now, Revelation 1 verse 7,
00:36:27.55\00:36:30.12
notice what Jesus says,
00:36:30.15\00:36:31.49
"Behold... "
speaking of His coming
00:36:31.52\00:36:33.49
because He is coming with clouds
00:36:33.52\00:36:34.86
"and every eye will see Him,
00:36:34.89\00:36:36.39
even they who pierced Him.
00:36:36.42\00:36:38.86
And all the tribes of the
earth will mourn because of Him.
00:36:38.89\00:36:41.60
Even so, Amen. "
00:36:41.66\00:36:43.00
Even those who pierced Him...
00:36:43.03\00:36:44.37
well, that would be Caiaphas
00:36:44.40\00:36:45.73
and, you know, majority
of the... of the priesthood,
00:36:45.77\00:36:47.54
the Sanhedrin...
00:36:47.57\00:36:48.90
those Roman guards
that participated in the...
00:36:48.94\00:36:50.81
in the... in the
crucifixion itself,
00:36:50.84\00:36:53.01
all those
individuals will be resurrected
00:36:53.04\00:36:55.51
because they will
actually see physically
00:36:55.54\00:36:57.95
Jesus coming back in the
clouds now, one more text...
00:36:58.01\00:37:00.62
where do we get the
foundation of this from?
00:37:00.65\00:37:02.55
Matthew chapter 26 when
Jesus was standing trial
00:37:02.58\00:37:05.45
at that Sanhedrin... before
the Sanhedrin Court in 31 A.D.
00:37:05.49\00:37:10.09
it goes on to say,
"But Jesus kept silent. "
00:37:10.13\00:37:12.43
This is Matthew
26 verses 63 and 64,
00:37:12.46\00:37:14.96
"But Jesus kept silent.
00:37:15.00\00:37:16.56
And the high priest
answered and said to Him,
00:37:16.60\00:37:18.27
'I put you under
oath by the living God:
00:37:18.30\00:37:20.54
Tell us if you are the
Christ and the Son of God!'
00:37:20.57\00:37:22.77
Jesus said to him,
'It is as you said.
00:37:22.80\00:37:25.17
Nevertheless, I say to you,
00:37:25.21\00:37:26.54
hereafter you
will see the Son of Man
00:37:26.57\00:37:28.14
sitting at the
right hand of Power,
00:37:28.18\00:37:30.18
and coming on the
clouds of heaven. '"
00:37:30.21\00:37:32.68
So, very plainly put...
Daniel 12... Matthew 26...
00:37:32.71\00:37:36.38
Revelation 1...
00:37:36.42\00:37:37.75
we have clear texts
there that tell us that yes,
00:37:37.79\00:37:39.85
Special Resurrection will occur
of those who pierced Christ.
00:37:39.89\00:37:42.66
Greg: Hmmm... yeah...
thank you very much, very clear.
00:37:42.69\00:37:45.06
Very clear from the Word of
God, thank you, Pastor Ryan.
00:37:45.09\00:37:48.86
Shelley, question from
Gloria, she lives in Maryland.
00:37:48.90\00:37:52.63
In Exodus chapter 33 verse 11,
00:37:52.67\00:37:55.70
Moses spoke to God face to face.
00:37:55.74\00:37:58.51
Genesis chapter 32
verse 30 and this is Jacob,
00:37:58.54\00:38:03.41
"For I have
seen God face to face
00:38:03.45\00:38:05.45
and my life is preserved. "
00:38:05.48\00:38:06.82
Then back to Exodus
chapter 33:20 and 22 says,
00:38:06.85\00:38:11.25
"No man has seen
My face and lived. "
00:38:11.29\00:38:13.29
Which is the truth? Did
people see God and live?
00:38:13.32\00:38:17.16
Shelley: That's a great question
and I studied this out myself
00:38:17.19\00:38:21.66
some time ago out of curiosity.
00:38:21.70\00:38:24.00
In Genesis 32:30, when
Jacob wrestled with a man,
00:38:24.17\00:38:28.00
he knew it was God
that he was wrestling with.
00:38:28.04\00:38:31.74
This was what they
called a Christophany...
00:38:31.77\00:38:35.44
this was an appearance of
the pre-incarnate Second Person
00:38:35.48\00:38:42.55
of the Godhead.
00:38:42.58\00:38:44.29
In other words, the one
who would become Jesus Christ.
00:38:44.32\00:38:47.76
This was before
He was incarnated.
00:38:47.79\00:38:51.93
And Hosea 12:4
identifies this man
00:38:51.96\00:38:56.03
that Jacob was wrestling
with as the angel of the Lord
00:38:56.06\00:39:01.60
who is also identified as God?
00:39:01.64\00:39:05.07
Now, in Exodus 33:11
00:39:05.11\00:39:08.48
when it says that the Lord
spoke to Moses face to face,
00:39:08.51\00:39:13.72
this is a figurative expression.
00:39:13.75\00:39:16.99
He was... it just means that
God had direct communication
00:39:17.05\00:39:23.09
with Moses.
00:39:23.12\00:39:24.46
He didn't do it
through visions or dreams
00:39:24.49\00:39:27.36
and we know it's figurative
00:39:27.40\00:39:29.30
because you go right on
down in Exodus 33 to verse 20,
00:39:29.33\00:39:33.84
and God says to Moses,
00:39:33.87\00:39:36.10
"You can't see My face:
00:39:36.14\00:39:37.47
no man shall see
My face, and live. "
00:39:37.51\00:39:40.08
And in verse 22, when
Moses says, "Show me Your glory"
00:39:40.11\00:39:44.75
God says, "So it shall
be, while My glory passes by,
00:39:44.78\00:39:49.38
that I will put you
in a cleft of the rock,
00:39:49.42\00:39:52.95
and I will cover with
My hand while I pass by:
00:39:52.99\00:39:56.59
and then when I
take away My hand,
00:39:56.62\00:39:59.06
you shall see my
back but you shall not...
00:39:59.09\00:40:03.06
My face shall not be seen. "
00:40:03.13\00:40:04.77
Panel: Hmmm...
00:40:04.80\00:40:06.13
Shelley: You know,
in 1st Timothy 6:16,
00:40:06.17\00:40:08.24
the Bible says that God
lives in unapproachable light.
00:40:08.27\00:40:15.08
It is the
penetrating purity of His love.
00:40:15.11\00:40:21.68
Love cannot sin.
00:40:21.72\00:40:23.05
This is what makes God holy
00:40:23.08\00:40:24.95
and His love is a
consuming fire of sin...
00:40:24.99\00:40:32.03
the flame of His love.
00:40:32.09\00:40:34.10
If you're a sinner and
you are in God's presence,
00:40:34.13\00:40:37.10
you just go... choook...
00:40:37.13\00:40:38.87
that's why when they return,
they're going to be seen.
00:40:38.90\00:40:43.67
But... so we know fallen man
00:40:43.71\00:40:46.24
cannot stand in
the presence of God
00:40:46.27\00:40:48.01
but I've just
got to tell you this,
00:40:48.04\00:40:49.74
Jesus said in Matthew 5:8,
"Blessed are the pure in heart
00:40:49.78\00:40:53.78
for they shall see God. "
00:40:53.82\00:40:55.95
And the same
Apostle who... who writes,
00:40:55.98\00:40:59.62
"No one has seen God
at any time. " John 1:18
00:40:59.65\00:41:02.42
Same Apostle says
in 1st John 3:2-3,
00:41:02.46\00:41:06.63
"We shall see Him as He is. "
00:41:06.66\00:41:08.70
And in Revelation
22:4, again John writes,
00:41:08.73\00:41:12.83
"They shall see His face;
00:41:12.87\00:41:14.77
and his name will be
on their foreheads. "
00:41:14.80\00:41:17.37
Greg: Hmmm... amen.
00:41:17.41\00:41:18.74
Thank you so
much Sister Shelley.
00:41:18.77\00:41:20.28
See, in the last
few minutes here,
00:41:20.31\00:41:21.81
I think we have enough time
to do one more question each.
00:41:21.84\00:41:24.85
So, Pastor James, I'll try
to read this question quickly.
00:41:24.88\00:41:27.82
It comes from Adoracion
from Seattle, Washington:
00:41:27.88\00:41:30.32
Is moving out to
the country Biblical?
00:41:30.35\00:41:32.39
Is off-grid living necessary?
00:41:32.42\00:41:35.22
I have noticed many
Seventh-day Adventists
00:41:35.29\00:41:38.13
looking for
land that is off-grid
00:41:38.16\00:41:39.96
versus country living.
00:41:40.00\00:41:41.33
Won't we have to flee
to the mountains anyway
00:41:41.36\00:41:43.57
during the great time of trouble
00:41:43.60\00:41:45.03
and rely on God regardless of
how self-sufficient our home is
00:41:45.07\00:41:48.30
in the country?
00:41:48.34\00:41:49.77
James: All right, there's
a couple of questions there.
00:41:49.80\00:41:51.14
So, we'll deal
with the first one:
00:41:51.17\00:41:52.51
Is country living Biblical?
00:41:52.54\00:41:53.88
Well, we can see
from the very beginning
00:41:53.91\00:41:55.88
that country living is Biblical.
00:41:55.91\00:41:58.11
God put us in a garden
00:41:58.15\00:41:59.48
and He wanted
us to be surrounded
00:41:59.51\00:42:02.42
with the beauties of nature.
00:42:02.45\00:42:04.19
Nature is God's second
book... it speaks to us...
00:42:04.25\00:42:07.86
it speaks to our
senses and it invigorates us.
00:42:07.89\00:42:11.33
I love being out in nature
00:42:11.36\00:42:13.80
and I love
living in the country.
00:42:13.83\00:42:15.66
Now, I'm a city boy by nature.
00:42:15.70\00:42:17.47
My wife is a city girl
raised in Southern California.
00:42:17.50\00:42:20.24
I was raised in London so
that's our natural tendency
00:42:20.27\00:42:22.94
but when I moved
out to the country,
00:42:22.97\00:42:25.34
it was hard at first, you know,
00:42:25.37\00:42:27.01
because it was so
different, you know,
00:42:27.08\00:42:28.54
there was no convenient
stores around the corner,
00:42:28.58\00:42:30.75
you know, you had to go
three hours to get to an airport
00:42:30.78\00:42:33.31
to fly out and I
did a lot of flying
00:42:33.35\00:42:35.32
but eventually,
I settled into it
00:42:35.35\00:42:37.25
and now, I love
living in the country.
00:42:37.29\00:42:39.15
That's what we were made for,
00:42:39.19\00:42:40.72
we were made to be in nature
00:42:40.76\00:42:42.22
and this is what we
see all through the Bible,
00:42:42.26\00:42:44.99
in fact, country living
was God's call to His people...
00:42:45.03\00:42:48.23
to Abraham... Abraham did it.
00:42:48.26\00:42:50.13
Moses did it... Jacob
did it... Isaac did it.
00:42:50.17\00:42:53.34
All of them
avoided city dwelling.
00:42:53.37\00:42:55.44
Even Christ lived in a
small community of Nazareth
00:42:55.50\00:42:59.11
as opposed to a
metropolis of Jerusalem.
00:42:59.14\00:43:02.14
And that's not to
say that God doesn't have
00:43:02.18\00:43:03.78
a city dwelling for us.
00:43:03.81\00:43:05.61
The New Jerusalem is going
to be a city dwelling for sure
00:43:05.65\00:43:07.78
and we're going to have a
mansion in the New Jerusalem,
00:43:07.82\00:43:09.98
but that's going to
be as far as we can tell
00:43:10.02\00:43:11.92
the only city in the new
heaven and the new earth.
00:43:11.95\00:43:14.39
The rest is going
to be country living
00:43:14.42\00:43:16.02
and we can see that
00:43:16.06\00:43:17.39
when God's people were
taken into the New Canaan...
00:43:17.43\00:43:20.53
and into the Promised Land
00:43:20.56\00:43:21.90
and they were all
given a section of land...
00:43:21.93\00:43:23.26
a section of property which
was great as a cure, I think,
00:43:23.33\00:43:26.94
for big government
today to just give people land
00:43:26.97\00:43:29.47
and help them to
develop that land.
00:43:29.50\00:43:32.01
Those are the good old days,
and they are the Biblical days.
00:43:32.04\00:43:34.91
Now, the second
half of the question is:
00:43:34.94\00:43:36.28
Is off-grid living necessary?
00:43:36.31\00:43:37.71
Now, I've noticed, you
know, that you said that
00:43:37.75\00:43:41.15
many Adventists are
looking to live off-grid,
00:43:41.22\00:43:43.79
I don't think
off-grid living is necessary.
00:43:43.82\00:43:46.35
You know, we are
going to have a time
00:43:46.42\00:43:48.46
when we're going to
have to flee to the mountains
00:43:48.52\00:43:50.16
and so, we're
going to be off-grid
00:43:50.19\00:43:51.53
but why bring a time
of trouble beforehand?
00:43:51.56\00:43:54.40
There are conveniences that
help life to be easier for us.
00:43:54.43\00:43:57.97
Why not take advantage of
those conveniences right now?
00:43:58.00\00:44:01.54
Sometimes we
want to live off-grid
00:44:01.57\00:44:03.14
because we don't
want anything to change
00:44:03.20\00:44:04.57
when the time of trouble comes
so we want to be used to it.
00:44:04.61\00:44:06.57
Well, when that time
comes, oh, have a generator...
00:44:06.64\00:44:10.21
live off-grid for that time
but why do it ahead of time?
00:44:10.25\00:44:13.42
I think it's beneficial
for us to take advantage of the
00:44:13.48\00:44:16.62
conveniences that we
have in our world today
00:44:16.65\00:44:18.62
so that we can
get on with God's work
00:44:18.65\00:44:20.66
and not be distracted with all
of the extra work that it takes
00:44:20.69\00:44:24.36
to live off-grid.
00:44:24.39\00:44:25.73
Now, that's not saying
00:44:25.76\00:44:27.33
that it's wrong for
someone to live off-grid.
00:44:27.36\00:44:29.33
If you choose to live off-grid,
I think it's great, you know,
00:44:29.36\00:44:31.90
if it's desired
00:44:31.93\00:44:33.54
but there is no reason for
us to bring that time of trouble
00:44:33.57\00:44:36.50
on us ahead of time.
00:44:36.54\00:44:37.87
When the time comes, when we
have to flee to the mountains,
00:44:37.91\00:44:40.28
we have to live off-grid...
00:44:40.31\00:44:41.64
well, that's something that
we'll endure at that time...
00:44:41.68\00:44:43.91
why do it now?
00:44:43.95\00:44:45.28
James: Excellent,
yeah, thank you so much.
00:44:45.31\00:44:47.28
Like you mentioned,
couple of questions in there
00:44:47.32\00:44:49.08
so, thank you so
very much for it.
00:44:49.12\00:44:50.45
Great answers from God's Word.
00:44:50.49\00:44:51.82
Pastor Ryan, question
from Pam, Trinidad... Tobago.
00:44:51.85\00:44:54.99
Ryan: All right.
00:44:55.02\00:44:56.36
Greg: I see many
of the churches today
00:44:56.39\00:44:57.73
dealing with spiritual warfare.
00:44:57.76\00:44:59.56
Does the
Seventh-day Adventist Church
00:44:59.59\00:45:01.56
help people who are
being afflicted via witchcraft?
00:45:01.60\00:45:04.63
Ryan: The answer is "yes".
00:45:04.70\00:45:06.20
You may not
hear as much about it
00:45:06.23\00:45:08.80
because, you know,
these are kind of...
00:45:08.84\00:45:10.17
well, we know that demonic
oppression and witchcraft...
00:45:10.21\00:45:14.71
it's... it's a
thing in our world
00:45:14.74\00:45:16.08
but you don't hear about it
a lot... but it's a real thing.
00:45:16.11\00:45:18.78
And so, in this case, yeah,
00:45:18.81\00:45:20.18
you may not hear or know
that there are ministries...
00:45:20.22\00:45:22.38
I'll just give you
one right off the bat,
00:45:22.42\00:45:23.89
it's one that actually Shelley
made me recently aware of
00:45:23.92\00:45:27.02
that I did not know about,
00:45:27.06\00:45:28.39
it's: Set Free
in Christ Institute.
00:45:28.42\00:45:30.23
Set Free in Christ Institute
and they have a website:
00:45:30.26\00:45:33.16
SetFreeinChrist. org
00:45:33.19\00:45:35.56
so: SetFreeinChrist. org
00:45:35.60\00:45:37.87
go there Pam... maybe bring
it to your Pastor's attention.
00:45:37.90\00:45:41.67
This is... this is a ministry
that has brought information
00:45:41.70\00:45:45.44
together from the
Scripture and how to, you know,
00:45:45.47\00:45:47.34
deal with exorcisms
and things like that
00:45:47.38\00:45:49.94
of people who are
being demonically oppressed
00:45:49.98\00:45:52.71
or in this case, oppressed
by witchcraft of any kind,
00:45:52.75\00:45:55.55
I would... I would
very much encourage you
00:45:55.58\00:45:57.55
to go to that
website and check it out
00:45:57.59\00:45:59.65
and this... this
particular organization
00:45:59.69\00:46:01.72
can help in terms of...
00:46:01.76\00:46:03.22
of bringing about the
proper measures needed to take
00:46:03.29\00:46:05.79
for someone dealing with this.
00:46:05.83\00:46:07.16
That being said, the
Scripture makes it very clear
00:46:07.20\00:46:09.40
we should also all follow
the Scriptural counsel on this,
00:46:09.43\00:46:12.83
James chapter 5
verses 13 through 16,
00:46:12.87\00:46:15.10
"Is anyone among you
suffering? let him pray.
00:46:15.14\00:46:17.51
Is anyone cheerful?
let him sings Psalms.
00:46:17.54\00:46:19.31
Is anyone among you sick?
00:46:19.34\00:46:21.04
let him call for the
elders of the church;
00:46:21.08\00:46:22.71
and let them pray over him,
00:46:22.74\00:46:24.08
anointing him with oil
in the name of the Lord:
00:46:24.11\00:46:25.88
And the prayer of
faith will save the sick,
00:46:25.91\00:46:29.25
and the Lord
will raise him up. "
00:46:29.28\00:46:30.72
My Friends, in this case, we
should be there for one another.
00:46:30.75\00:46:33.29
If someone's hurting or they're
dealing with some type of...
00:46:33.32\00:46:35.82
of demonic oppression
or witchcraft in this case,
00:46:35.86\00:46:37.93
we need to be there to
pray for these brothers.
00:46:37.96\00:46:39.89
Now, the truth of the matter is,
00:46:39.93\00:46:41.56
a lot of ministers
are a little... sss...
00:46:41.60\00:46:43.83
they're little
scared to even get involved
00:46:43.87\00:46:46.57
in something like this because
of what we read, you know,
00:46:46.60\00:46:48.74
in Acts chapter 19,
about, you know, the... the...
00:46:48.77\00:46:51.37
the sons of Sceva
are out there, you know,
00:46:51.44\00:46:53.24
they're hearing Paul
casting out demons in there
00:46:53.27\00:46:54.98
they're excited, "Wow,
we're going to out here
00:46:55.01\00:46:56.54
and do the same thing. "
00:46:56.61\00:46:57.95
So, they find
themselves a... a demonic guy
00:46:57.98\00:46:59.81
that's full of
the devil and they...
00:46:59.85\00:47:01.25
they start to
try to cast him out
00:47:01.28\00:47:02.65
and the demon speaks
to this guy and says,
00:47:02.68\00:47:04.02
"I know Jesus... I know Paul...
00:47:04.05\00:47:05.69
who are you?"
00:47:05.72\00:47:07.06
And then the
demons leap on these guys
00:47:07.09\00:47:08.52
and the whop him up really nice
00:47:08.56\00:47:10.03
and send them naked
out the door running
00:47:10.06\00:47:11.86
and so, you know the idea...
00:47:11.89\00:47:13.50
some ministers are a
little hesitant to get involved
00:47:13.53\00:47:15.10
in this type of ministry,
00:47:15.13\00:47:16.46
because they
themselves are afraid
00:47:16.50\00:47:17.83
that they might have
something in their life
00:47:17.87\00:47:19.20
that... that those demons
may... may, you know, expose.
00:47:19.23\00:47:21.97
In this case, my
Friends, there... there is hope.
00:47:22.00\00:47:24.51
We also need to also know
that in... in extreme cases,
00:47:24.54\00:47:27.68
Jesus counsels us in
Matthew 17 that sometimes,
00:47:27.71\00:47:30.68
we have to do a little
bit of prayer and fasting.
00:47:30.71\00:47:33.62
So, this is Matthew
17 verses 19 through 21,
00:47:33.65\00:47:36.48
He says that it's only...
He says, right here He says,
00:47:36.52\00:47:39.55
"However, this
kind does not go out
00:47:39.59\00:47:40.92
except by prayer and fasting. "
00:47:40.96\00:47:42.52
Pam... you or whoever you might
know that sparked this question
00:47:42.56\00:47:46.59
that might be dealing with this,
00:47:46.66\00:47:48.00
maybe they need to pray...
00:47:48.03\00:47:49.40
maybe they need to fast...
00:47:49.43\00:47:50.77
call on the
Elders of the Church...
00:47:50.80\00:47:52.87
contact: Set Free
in Christ Institute.
00:47:52.90\00:47:55.24
Go on that website,
do all that you can.
00:47:55.27\00:47:57.47
No one should be
oppressed by demons...
00:47:57.51\00:47:59.64
Jesus has power over
the works of darkness...
00:47:59.67\00:48:03.11
just simply call out of
Him... take the proper measures
00:48:03.14\00:48:05.61
and that person...
you... or whoever it is
00:48:05.65\00:48:08.18
can indeed be set
free in Jesus' name.
00:48:08.22\00:48:10.72
Greg: Amen, yeah, great
advice, thank you so very much,
00:48:10.75\00:48:12.79
great answer...
00:48:12.85\00:48:14.19
Sister Shelley, Brian
from Spokane, Washington
00:48:14.22\00:48:17.36
asks: I'm confused by the
way the concept of "spirit"
00:48:17.43\00:48:21.10
is used in the Bible.
00:48:21.16\00:48:22.66
In Genesis 2:7, the breath
that God breathed into man
00:48:22.70\00:48:25.93
is referred to as the Spirit.
00:48:25.97\00:48:27.44
When I read Galatians 5:18,
00:48:27.47\00:48:29.40
it talks about
being led by the Spirit.
00:48:29.44\00:48:31.47
When I saw "Spirit" capitalized,
00:48:31.51\00:48:33.71
I thought that was
referring to the Holy Spirit.
00:48:33.74\00:48:36.04
Interestingly, when I looked
up the Greek word for "Spirit"
00:48:36.08\00:48:39.65
in this text in Galatians
it said that it is Pneuma
00:48:39.68\00:48:42.68
which means "breath. "
00:48:42.72\00:48:44.05
That confused me so
how can "breath" lead us?
00:48:44.09\00:48:46.82
Whenever "spirit" is
mentioned in the Bible,
00:48:46.86\00:48:49.22
if it is not
referring to the Holy Spirit,
00:48:49.26\00:48:50.99
does it always mean "breath"?
00:48:51.03\00:48:52.73
Shelley: Okay,
the Greek word Pneuma
00:48:52.76\00:48:56.10
can mean:
spirit, wind, or breath
00:48:56.13\00:48:59.40
and I don't know
what you looked it up...
00:48:59.43\00:49:01.60
in most places that I've looked,
00:49:01.64\00:49:03.77
it talks about
spirit, wind or breath
00:49:03.81\00:49:06.07
and when you were
saying in Galatians 5:18,
00:49:06.11\00:49:09.11
led by the Spirit...
that is the Holy Spirit.
00:49:09.14\00:49:12.08
You have to read in context
when you see the word "Pneuma"
00:49:12.11\00:49:15.85
and in context, you'll
know when to capital...
00:49:15.88\00:49:19.42
put the capital "S"
00:49:19.45\00:49:20.79
that always refers to
the Holy Spirit of God.
00:49:20.82\00:49:24.66
Romans 5:5 says that
God pours out His love...
00:49:24.69\00:49:28.60
the essence of His
Being into our hearts
00:49:28.66\00:49:31.20
by the power of the Holy Spirit
00:49:31.23\00:49:34.00
who's been given to us.
00:49:34.04\00:49:35.37
That's not just a
breath or a wind...
00:49:35.40\00:49:38.24
that's God's Holy Spirit,
the Third Person of the Godhead.
00:49:38.27\00:49:42.68
In John 14:16 Jesus said,
00:49:42.71\00:49:45.98
"I will pray... the Father
00:49:46.01\00:49:47.98
He will give you
another helper. "
00:49:48.05\00:49:51.42
Allos Parakletos
is what the Greek says
00:49:51.45\00:49:55.16
and you know what's interesting?
00:49:55.19\00:49:56.52
That means, another
Helper who is exactly like Me
00:49:56.56\00:50:00.46
and that He may
abide with you forever.
00:50:00.50\00:50:04.57
A Parakletos is an Advocate,
00:50:04.63\00:50:07.87
Legal Assistant that
pleads someone's cause
00:50:07.90\00:50:11.14
an Intercessor,
Counselor, Comforter or Helper.
00:50:11.17\00:50:14.64
So, when Jesus says in
John... the next verse...
00:50:14.68\00:50:17.91
He says, "The
Spirit of truth... "
00:50:17.95\00:50:19.91
He's talking
about the Holy Spirit
00:50:19.95\00:50:21.85
whom the world cannot receive
because it neither sees Him
00:50:21.88\00:50:24.69
nor knows
Him... but you know Him
00:50:24.72\00:50:26.12
for He dwells in
you and will be in you.
00:50:26.15\00:50:31.26
Now, John 3:8
Jesus told Nicodemus,
00:50:31.29\00:50:34.56
"The wind blows where it
wishes and you hear it...
00:50:34.60\00:50:38.57
but you can't tell
where it is and He said,
00:50:38.60\00:50:40.40
"So it is with everyone
who's born of the Spirit. "
00:50:40.44\00:50:42.87
Now, some people say,
00:50:42.90\00:50:44.37
"Ah ha... that denies the
personhood of the Holy Spirit. "
00:50:44.41\00:50:48.24
No, it's simply an expression.
00:50:48.28\00:50:51.25
Jesus is explaining the
mode of operation of the Spirit.
00:50:51.28\00:50:56.55
and you know, we
call Jesus "The Gate"
00:50:56.58\00:50:59.22
we call Him "The Door" "Divine"
00:50:59.25\00:51:01.12
"The Bread of Life"
00:51:01.16\00:51:02.76
that doesn't mean
Jesus is not a person.
00:51:02.79\00:51:04.79
But let me just quickly tell you
00:51:04.83\00:51:06.86
what the functions
of the Holy Spirit are.
00:51:06.90\00:51:09.36
He inspired the Scriptures...
00:51:09.40\00:51:11.20
He illuminates the Scriptures
for us to understand...
00:51:11.23\00:51:13.87
He convicts us of sin,
righteousness and judgment,
00:51:13.90\00:51:16.81
He exalts Christ...
calls people to the Savior...
00:51:16.84\00:51:19.67
He affects
regeneration... the rebirth...
00:51:19.71\00:51:22.58
He cultivates
Christian character
00:51:22.61\00:51:25.11
and the fullness of stature,
00:51:25.15\00:51:27.25
He bestows spiritual gifts...
00:51:27.28\00:51:29.35
He seals us for
the day of redemption
00:51:29.38\00:51:31.49
and you better believe
00:51:31.52\00:51:34.32
Pneuma... the
Spirit... capital "S"
00:51:34.39\00:51:38.09
is the Third
Person of the Godhead.
00:51:38.16\00:51:41.86
He is the Holy Spirit.
00:51:41.90\00:51:44.27
Greg: Amen, wow! thank you
so very much, Sister Shelley.
00:51:44.30\00:51:46.30
Thank you for your
passion and excitement too.
00:51:46.33\00:51:47.74
Shelley: I love that topic.
00:51:47.77\00:51:49.10
Greg: We're going
to take a quick break,
00:51:49.14\00:51:50.77
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