Hi, I'm Shelly Quinn. 00:00:10.21\00:00:12.01 I'm JD Quinn. 00:00:12.14\00:00:12.87 And we welcome you to 3ABN. 00:00:12.94\00:00:15.48 This is live this second hour. 00:00:15.58\00:00:18.01 If you missed the first hour, you'll definitely want to see 00:00:18.05\00:00:21.35 that. 00:00:21.35\00:00:26.59 Hartman, who are... 00:00:26.59\00:00:27.69 James. 00:00:28.06\00:00:28.26 James. 00:00:28.36\00:00:28.99 James Michael. 00:00:29.29\00:00:30.03 That's where... 00:00:30.26\00:00:31.56 James Michael. 00:00:31.56\00:00:31.93 James Hartley. 00:00:32.63\00:00:34.10 And they are with Outpost Centers International. 00:00:34.66\00:00:38.50 Before we get rolling again, they've got some incredible 00:00:39.13\00:00:42.90 stories. 00:00:42.90\00:00:46.84 You're going to hear that in just a moment, as well as a 00:00:47.28\00:00:50.75 king, and just some fascinating stories. 00:00:50.75\00:00:53.62 But first, honey, everybody loves music. 00:00:54.32\00:00:56.18 Everybody loves music. 00:00:56.28\00:00:57.39 And, boy, Josh Singletary can play the piano and you're going 00:00:57.89\00:01:00.69 to love this. 00:01:00.69\00:01:01.29 I surrender all. 00:01:01.29\00:01:02.69 Thank you, Josh. 00:03:29.17\00:03:30.31 Amen. 00:03:30.41\00:03:30.97 Thank you. 00:03:31.01\00:03:31.51 We heard an incredible story during the break. 00:03:32.37\00:03:35.38 And I just, we want to start with this one. 00:03:35.54\00:03:38.25 OCI, for the Outpost Centers International, if you're just 00:03:38.55\00:03:42.72 joining us on this second hour, is a thriving network of 00:03:42.72\00:03:47.59 ministries, lay ministries around the world. 00:03:47.59\00:03:51.69 They have over 400 in nearly 90 countries. 00:03:51.99\00:03:56.90 But we're going to come back to that because Steve just keeps 00:03:57.30\00:04:01.10 telling me that's a tip in the bucket. 00:04:01.10\00:04:05.11 No, what would that be? 00:04:05.34\00:04:06.37 Anyway, a toe in the water. 00:04:06.68\00:04:07.88 We want to go deeper. 00:04:08.04\00:04:08.84 There we go. 00:04:09.41\00:04:09.91 I'll get my metaphors out. 00:04:10.05\00:04:12.08 But you told the most amazing story because he said, God can 00:04:12.08\00:04:17.95 use anyone. 00:04:17.95\00:04:19.42 Tell us the story of the Buddhist. 00:04:19.59\00:04:21.96 So I met Dim Da in the country of Malaysia. 00:04:22.22\00:04:26.43 We were having an OCI convention there. 00:04:26.90\00:04:29.10 And because of the nature of some of that region of the 00:04:29.80\00:04:33.20 world, it's hard to bring people together. 00:04:33.20\00:04:36.60 But we had come together. 00:04:36.91\00:04:38.17 We're having an OCI convention. 00:04:38.37\00:04:39.57 And I heard just a and I said, I've got to get the rest of 00:04:40.01\00:04:43.91 this story. 00:04:43.91\00:04:44.48 So I sat down with Dim Da. 00:04:44.55\00:04:45.91 I said, tell me your story. 00:04:46.01\00:04:47.22 And he said, I was raised in a Buddhist family. 00:04:47.75\00:04:50.89 And in our village, there was really no Buddhist anyway. 00:04:51.65\00:04:54.46 He was raised in the country of Cambodia. 00:04:54.56\00:04:56.26 And he said, there were no Christians there, but I was 00:04:57.03\00:05:01.23 taught to hate Christians anyway, because it was just the 00:05:01.23\00:05:04.27 nature of that kind of situation. 00:05:04.27\00:05:06.70 And he said, so I was raised as a Buddhist. 00:05:06.80\00:05:08.87 I hated Christians. 00:05:08.87\00:05:09.87 And somehow God had a plan though. 00:05:11.27\00:05:13.78 He says, I'm going to use Dim Da. 00:05:14.18\00:05:15.58 And so he was invited to come to Malaysia to this ministry 00:05:16.41\00:05:21.12 and to be a gardener. 00:05:21.12\00:05:23.79 And he said, I thought a gardener was someone who took 00:05:24.22\00:05:26.82 care of the flowers. 00:05:26.82\00:05:27.56 And so he's there at the ministry and he comes to the 00:05:27.96\00:05:31.29 ministry and he looks around. 00:05:31.29\00:05:33.50 He doesn't see very many flowers. 00:05:33.56\00:05:35.03 He says, what is the deal? 00:05:36.06\00:05:37.17 I came as a gardener to take care of the flowers. 00:05:37.23\00:05:39.70 And they said, no, it's a farm, not a garden. 00:05:40.14\00:05:42.44 It's a farm. 00:05:42.47\00:05:43.17 He said, so I had a big problem. 00:05:43.44\00:05:45.44 He said, I didn't want to be a farmer and I hated Christians. 00:05:45.61\00:05:49.28 And when I found out that this was a Christian place, he said, 00:05:49.41\00:05:52.81 I just wanted to go home. 00:05:52.81\00:05:54.38 He said, I just, but I didn't have the money. 00:05:54.75\00:05:57.39 He said, I couldn't go anywhere. 00:05:57.49\00:05:58.65 So I had to stay. 00:05:58.65\00:05:59.72 But he told me, he said, it wasn't long before he got sick. 00:06:00.39\00:06:04.46 And he said, I got so sick that I couldn't even get out of bed. 00:06:04.69\00:06:08.00 He said, it was just terrible. 00:06:08.00\00:06:09.70 I was just, I didn't know what to do. 00:06:09.83\00:06:12.20 No one was there to help me. 00:06:12.77\00:06:14.17 He said, but the people here at this ministry started helping 00:06:14.30\00:06:17.01 me and they would bring me food and they would try to get me 00:06:17.01\00:06:21.18 well again. 00:06:21.18\00:06:21.84 And he would tell them, go away. 00:06:22.61\00:06:24.05 I don't want you to help me because I cannot pay you. 00:06:24.35\00:06:27.12 And this is what they told him. 00:06:27.48\00:06:29.15 They said, Dimda, we are not doing this for money. 00:06:29.35\00:06:32.72 We are doing this because Jesus loves you. 00:06:33.46\00:06:36.32 And he said, don't tell me anything about Jesus. 00:06:36.32\00:06:38.79 I hate Christians. 00:06:39.06\00:06:39.83 You know, I hate Christians. 00:06:39.86\00:06:40.83 I don't want anything to do with this and I can't pay you. 00:06:41.06\00:06:43.23 Go away. 00:06:43.37\00:06:43.97 They said, no, no, we're going to help you. 00:06:44.33\00:06:45.80 And they kept bringing him food and kept ministering to his 00:06:46.07\00:06:48.94 needs. 00:06:48.94\00:06:52.37 get up and walk and do things. 00:06:52.37\00:06:55.08 And one day he was working on the farm, which he didn't 00:06:55.51\00:06:59.31 really want to do, but he was there and he had to do it. 00:06:59.31\00:07:02.08 He's working on the farm. 00:07:02.32\00:07:03.52 He loses all keys to the whole farm. 00:07:03.72\00:07:06.02 He was the, they'd given him charge of all the keys. 00:07:06.76\00:07:09.29 He said, we got to find the keys. 00:07:10.36\00:07:11.59 And so he came to his friends who had helped him with to get 00:07:12.06\00:07:14.83 well. 00:07:14.83\00:07:15.43 And he says, come please help me. 00:07:15.66\00:07:17.00 We have to find the keys. 00:07:17.00\00:07:17.03 And they told him, no, we will not find the keys right now. 00:07:18.63\00:07:21.40 He said, why not? 00:07:21.40\00:07:22.37 We have to go find the keys. 00:07:22.77\00:07:24.14 And they said, no, we'll find the keys later because today is 00:07:24.84\00:07:27.44 Friday and we're getting ready for the Sabbath. 00:07:27.44\00:07:29.94 He says, I don't care about the Sabbath. 00:07:30.28\00:07:31.75 I've lost the keys. 00:07:31.75\00:07:32.98 Now come and help me find the keys. 00:07:33.11\00:07:34.28 Please. 00:07:34.35\00:07:34.82 You're my friends. 00:07:34.85\00:07:35.32 They said, no, we'll not go now, but we'll pray. 00:07:35.92\00:07:38.39 And they said, let's just pray. 00:07:38.89\00:07:40.82 And finally, he was pretty frustrated. 00:07:41.66\00:07:43.46 He told me, and he said, he finally told them, I don't know 00:07:43.46\00:07:43.49 how to pray. 00:07:46.73\00:07:47.66 And they said, we will teach you. 00:07:48.50\00:07:50.87 And so they knelt down, they prayed that God would help them 00:07:51.27\00:07:54.57 to find those keys. 00:07:54.57\00:07:55.84 And he said, he went to church the next day out of respect for 00:07:56.67\00:08:00.98 the people he was with. 00:08:00.98\00:08:02.24 And, and he didn't think much about it. 00:08:02.78\00:08:04.41 He kind of forgotten a little bit about the keys, but that 00:08:04.41\00:08:06.82 afternoon he had to go check something somewhere on the 00:08:06.82\00:08:09.72 property. 00:08:09.72\00:08:13.46 And this is what he told me. 00:08:14.36\00:08:15.62 He said, I thought, oh, this is so wonderful. 00:08:15.62\00:08:19.19 It's my good karma. 00:08:19.69\00:08:21.16 He said, I've got some karma. 00:08:21.73\00:08:23.20 I've done some good things in my life and this is my karma. 00:08:23.30\00:08:26.47 There's no God. 00:08:26.53\00:08:27.57 There can't be any God. 00:08:28.30\00:08:29.54 This is just karma. 00:08:29.57\00:08:30.74 I have found my keys. 00:08:30.84\00:08:32.07 But he said, he became a little bit curious. 00:08:32.84\00:08:34.98 You know, I think God uses that sometimes with us where we get 00:08:35.41\00:08:39.15 curious because he's stimulating our thinking on 00:08:39.15\00:08:43.49 something. 00:08:43.49\00:08:43.75 And so he said, I became a little curious. 00:08:44.45\00:08:47.46 And anytime I had a problem, I go to my friends and they would 00:08:48.59\00:08:51.53 say, always tell me, oh, no, don't worry. 00:08:51.53\00:08:53.80 We will pray. 00:08:53.80\00:08:54.66 And, and he said, I began to experience this thing. 00:08:55.36\00:08:58.17 And he said, I became a little more curious. 00:08:58.17\00:09:00.20 He said, eventually I became so curious. 00:09:00.87\00:09:03.51 I decided I had to really find out, is there a God who really 00:09:03.64\00:09:07.74 cares about people that would say they care so much that he 00:09:07.74\00:09:12.15 would actually interact with a, with a person like me? 00:09:12.15\00:09:15.22 Is this true or not? 00:09:15.82\00:09:17.02 I got to find out. 00:09:17.15\00:09:18.25 I said, well, what did you do? 00:09:18.59\00:09:19.72 He said, I decided I would give God a test. 00:09:20.06\00:09:22.66 And I kind of chuckled that point. 00:09:23.12\00:09:24.49 I thought, this is funny. 00:09:24.63\00:09:25.43 He's going to give God a test. 00:09:25.43\00:09:25.46 I said, what kind of test did you give God? 00:09:27.00\00:09:29.33 He said, I told God three things because I become curious 00:09:30.03\00:09:34.40 enough about this God that I said, maybe I need to study in 00:09:34.40\00:09:39.34 this school. 00:09:39.34\00:09:40.04 And he said, God, this is the test. 00:09:41.21\00:09:43.81 If you will answer these three I will become a Christian. 00:09:44.05\00:09:48.18 He said, now we're going to figure this out once and for 00:09:48.88\00:09:51.02 all. 00:09:51.02\00:09:51.32 He said, I don't have money, so I can't study here. 00:09:52.09\00:09:56.93 I'm a Buddhist. 00:09:57.59\00:09:58.16 They won't accept me. 00:09:58.36\00:09:59.43 And thirdly, I can't speak English and the classes are in 00:10:00.36\00:10:03.20 English. 00:10:03.20\00:10:06.47 He said, but it was so bad. 00:10:06.63\00:10:08.07 I would walk down the sidewalk and I would see somebody. 00:10:08.27\00:10:11.77 I would say, good morning. 00:10:11.81\00:10:13.17 And they would say, what did you say? 00:10:13.41\00:10:15.18 He said, I just couldn't get the English language. 00:10:15.91\00:10:18.98 So three days later, somebody showed up and they paid his 00:10:20.15\00:10:24.29 tuition. 00:10:24.29\00:10:24.79 And he said, Oh my, maybe there is something to this, but no, 00:10:25.52\00:10:29.19 it could be my karma. 00:10:29.36\00:10:30.16 This is, this could be karma still. 00:10:30.66\00:10:32.29 And he said, so he applied to the school and he said, but 00:10:32.93\00:10:36.26 they won't accept me because I'm a Buddhist and this is a 00:10:36.26\00:10:38.83 Christian school. 00:10:38.83\00:10:39.60 And so he applied and he was accepted. 00:10:40.24\00:10:42.60 He said, Oh my, maybe there really is a God, but no, this 00:10:42.94\00:10:46.04 could still be my karma. 00:10:46.04\00:10:47.18 Because I still can't, I don't know what to do. 00:10:48.44\00:10:50.48 How am I going to go to class? 00:10:50.61\00:10:51.78 I don't speak English. 00:10:51.81\00:10:52.78 The classes are in English. 00:10:53.08\00:10:54.22 And he said, finally it was time for the classes to start. 00:10:55.18\00:10:58.35 His money had been paid. 00:10:58.52\00:10:59.49 He was accepted. 00:10:59.52\00:11:00.46 He said, but I knew I couldn't speak English, so it was going 00:11:00.86\00:11:03.89 to be trouble the first day in class. 00:11:03.89\00:11:05.43 He said, when I sat down in class, I could understand 00:11:05.93\00:11:09.40 everything the teacher said. 00:11:09.40\00:11:10.63 Wow. 00:11:11.00\00:11:11.40 Amazing. 00:11:12.00\00:11:12.67 He said, not only could I understand what the teacher 00:11:13.17\00:11:16.37 said, but I began to be able to speak in English. 00:11:16.37\00:11:18.87 Wow. 00:11:19.21\00:11:21.91 Wow. 00:11:21.91\00:11:22.68 And I could write my assignments in English. 00:11:22.84\00:11:24.91 Glory to God. 00:11:24.95\00:11:25.61 Hallelujah. 00:11:25.71\00:11:26.38 Jesus doesn't need our abilities. 00:11:26.51\00:11:29.55 He just needs us to be willing to say yes. 00:11:29.75\00:11:32.25 Right. 00:11:32.52\00:11:32.69 Amen. 00:11:32.82\00:11:36.52 And I realize I needed to find out more about this God because 00:11:37.19\00:11:42.33 if I was going to become a Christian, I needed to know 00:11:42.33\00:11:45.10 more. 00:11:45.10\00:11:45.63 He said, so I studied in the school for one year. 00:11:46.17\00:11:48.57 And then I said, God, I'm ready. 00:11:49.44\00:11:52.04 And he said, I was ready and I requested baptism. 00:11:52.57\00:11:56.18 And he said, when I came up out of the water, God told me, you 00:11:56.91\00:12:02.28 will now be my missionary. 00:12:02.28\00:12:05.05 And he said, how am I going to be a missionary? 00:12:05.52\00:12:08.29 What am I going to do? 00:12:08.92\00:12:09.99 And God said, you are going to go to your own people in your 00:12:10.56\00:12:15.73 own country that don't know about me. 00:12:15.73\00:12:18.33 And so he told the people at the school, he said, I have to 00:12:19.00\00:12:21.47 leave. 00:12:21.47\00:12:21.87 They said, oh no, you cannot leave. 00:12:22.30\00:12:23.67 You have to stay here and get more training. 00:12:23.97\00:12:25.47 He said, no, I have to leave because God has told me to go 00:12:25.47\00:12:25.51 to my own people in my own country. 00:12:29.31\00:12:31.18 He ended up going his own people in his own country. 00:12:33.15\00:12:36.45 And when he showed up, his parents rejected him. 00:12:36.92\00:12:40.26 His best friends rejected him. 00:12:40.46\00:12:42.26 He said, he went to see his best friend. 00:12:42.59\00:12:45.99 He said, surely he will accept me. 00:12:46.23\00:12:48.06 He said, the mother of his best friend came out the door. 00:12:48.50\00:12:51.50 She said, go do not come here. 00:12:51.67\00:12:53.23 Go. 00:12:53.23\00:12:53.60 He said, why? 00:12:54.00\00:12:54.77 She says, you have become a Christian. 00:12:55.20\00:12:56.57 You have betrayed our people. 00:12:56.71\00:12:57.91 We, you know, we hate Christians here. 00:12:58.37\00:13:00.44 And so he turned to leave. 00:13:01.74\00:13:03.81 And as he was leaving, he looked back and she had a 00:13:03.98\00:13:06.85 branch and she was sweeping his footprints out of the dust. 00:13:06.85\00:13:10.09 He said, I felt totally a failure. 00:13:10.69\00:13:12.35 What was God going to do here? 00:13:12.69\00:13:14.12 How he's going to use me because they're rejecting me. 00:13:14.19\00:13:17.39 And so he said, he went home that night and his parents had 00:13:18.19\00:13:21.56 agreed if he didn't say anything Christian, he could 00:13:21.56\00:13:24.23 stay in the house because he had no other place to stay. 00:13:24.23\00:13:26.63 So he finally let him in the house. 00:13:26.70\00:13:28.67 He said, I was so disappointed. 00:13:28.67\00:13:30.11 I was so discouraged. 00:13:30.47\00:13:31.37 I didn't know what to do. 00:13:31.51\00:13:32.37 I've just praying. 00:13:32.41\00:13:33.21 I was crying out to God. 00:13:33.48\00:13:34.78 What will I do? 00:13:34.91\00:13:36.11 He said, when I woke up in the morning, I felt this impression 00:13:36.88\00:13:40.12 that I was to work with the children. 00:13:40.12\00:13:42.12 And he said, God, what am I going to do with the children? 00:13:43.32\00:13:46.39 He said, God spoke to his heart, said, you will teach the 00:13:47.62\00:13:50.59 children English. 00:13:50.59\00:13:51.63 So God takes someone who hates Christians, who can't speak 00:13:53.19\00:13:56.50 English, who doesn't have any money and sends him back as a 00:13:56.50\00:14:01.67 missionary to teach English. 00:14:01.67\00:14:03.97 Today he has a group of children that come and they 00:14:05.64\00:14:09.11 built a building there and they're teaching these children 00:14:09.11\00:14:12.48 about Jesus. 00:14:12.48\00:14:13.48 But God said, I'm not finished yet. 00:14:13.95\00:14:17.82 He said, you will do more. 00:14:18.32\00:14:20.19 But he felt like a failure because he said it was, I'd 00:14:20.62\00:14:23.59 been doing this for two years, no success. 00:14:23.59\00:14:26.03 He said, what I really wanted to do was study the Bible with 00:14:26.16\00:14:28.53 people. 00:14:28.53\00:14:29.50 He said, but I couldn't get anyone to study the Bible with 00:14:29.76\00:14:31.60 me. 00:14:31.60\00:14:32.30 He said, so I took a week and I went to the jungle and I fasted 00:14:32.87\00:14:35.84 and I prayed. 00:14:35.84\00:14:36.47 He said, I didn't care who heard me. 00:14:36.84\00:14:38.57 I was crying out loudly to God. 00:14:38.81\00:14:41.64 And he said, I was telling God, I've been a failure. 00:14:42.01\00:14:44.38 I've wasted your time or wasted your money. 00:14:44.58\00:14:46.15 I can't do anything. 00:14:46.25\00:14:47.35 These people don't want to study the Bible. 00:14:47.68\00:14:49.28 And that's what I want to do. 00:14:49.32\00:14:50.32 I want to teach them about you. 00:14:50.35\00:14:51.82 I thought that's what you wanted me to do. 00:14:52.19\00:14:54.06 He said, so one week I cried and prayed to God. 00:14:55.06\00:14:58.26 And he said, I felt some sense of peace. 00:14:58.69\00:15:00.50 So I went back home, but I still didn't know really what 00:15:00.53\00:15:03.16 to do. 00:15:03.16\00:15:03.57 But he said, something changed. 00:15:04.13\00:15:05.67 And within the next six months, there were seven individuals 00:15:06.47\00:15:09.77 that agreed to study the Bible with him. 00:15:09.77\00:15:11.57 Praise God. 00:15:11.87\00:15:14.78 And God said, I'm not finished yet. 00:15:15.58\00:15:17.25 He says, what do you want me to do now? 00:15:17.88\00:15:19.75 He said, I want you to go to the prison. 00:15:20.08\00:15:22.15 And so Deem Da went to the prison and he said, I'm 00:15:22.78\00:15:25.85 supposed to teach here. 00:15:25.85\00:15:26.89 They said, what are you going to teach? 00:15:27.06\00:15:28.62 He said, I'm going to teach English. 00:15:29.29\00:15:30.89 Now he is teaching to hundreds of prisoners every week, 00:15:32.83\00:15:37.03 teaching the Bible through English, teaching them, you 00:15:37.77\00:15:43.27 know, God is, and now it's amazing. 00:15:43.27\00:15:48.71 Deem Da is building a chapel because there were too many 00:15:49.51\00:15:53.15 prisoners that wanted to study the Bible. 00:15:53.15\00:15:55.58 Glory to God. 00:15:55.62\00:15:56.75 And so he's, we're building a little chapel in the prison, 00:15:56.99\00:16:02.42 inside the prison. 00:16:03.32\00:16:04.66 There's going to be a Seventh -day Advent Chapel teaching the 00:16:04.96\00:16:08.23 Bible. 00:16:08.23\00:16:12.47 Glory. 00:16:12.67\00:16:13.30 Amen. 00:16:14.27\00:16:16.20 So God, what does he need? 00:16:16.40\00:16:17.71 He needs us to say yes. 00:16:18.01\00:16:19.31 That's what he needs. 00:16:19.41\00:16:20.31 It's something that, I mean, you know, when God spoke to me 00:16:21.51\00:16:29.15 personally, when he called me, I mean, when I say he spoke to 00:16:29.15\00:16:32.22 me, it was a still small voice of the Lord. 00:16:32.22\00:16:34.36 I remember the first time I told JD, well, God said this 00:16:34.69\00:16:38.06 and God said that. 00:16:38.06\00:16:42.53 hearing from God because they're going to think you're 00:16:42.53\00:16:45.53 crazy. 00:16:45.53\00:16:46.00 But you know, 1 Kings 19 12 talks about the still small 00:16:46.74\00:16:49.97 voice. 00:16:49.97\00:16:54.18 And it just moves me when I hear stories like that, where 00:16:54.31\00:16:59.15 God has spoken and used someone. 00:16:59.15\00:17:01.92 Now you, this may be you, God may be speaking to you right 00:17:02.22\00:17:06.79 now. 00:17:06.79\00:17:07.32 And I wanted to talk. 00:17:07.32\00:17:09.59 We're going to just transition here. 00:17:09.92\00:17:11.49 Just a second. 00:17:11.59\00:17:12.26 I wanted to talk. 00:17:12.99\00:17:14.00 There's people like, how do you say his name? 00:17:14.23\00:17:17.37 Demda. 00:17:17.77\00:17:18.50 Demda, who've come in, who have no leadership experience and 00:17:18.97\00:17:24.61 who have a call on their, of the Lord on their heart. 00:17:24.61\00:17:29.91 Tell us what with the leadership training. 00:17:30.65\00:17:33.42 Yeah, that's so important. 00:17:33.48\00:17:35.98 Many people get engaged in ministry cause the Lord is 00:17:36.85\00:17:39.69 moving on their heart, but they soon realize there's a lot of 00:17:39.69\00:17:42.99 details in running a ministry, a lot of administrative issues 00:17:42.99\00:17:45.99 and, and organization needed and OCI is there to help 00:17:45.99\00:17:52.03 provide leadership training to our ministries. 00:17:52.03\00:17:55.17 We've recently just returned from Romania. 00:17:55.54\00:17:58.67 We had a three day strategic planning session with our board 00:17:58.91\00:18:02.24 and we recognized that one of the biggest needs that we 00:18:02.24\00:18:04.41 wanted to fill was leadership training. 00:18:04.41\00:18:06.38 Cause if we can strengthen the leaders, we'll strengthen the 00:18:06.55\00:18:08.82 whole ministry because the leader is leading, leading the 00:18:08.82\00:18:11.59 way. 00:18:11.59\00:18:17.86 of 12 to 15 leaders at a time as a group where they will work 00:18:17.86\00:18:22.43 for three months together. 00:18:22.43\00:18:23.67 A lot of it online, there'll be classes that they watch, then 00:18:23.80\00:18:27.87 they're going to get lectures from different, you know, 00:18:27.87\00:18:30.47 specialists in different areas. 00:18:30.67\00:18:31.81 Then they're going to have time where they're all talking 00:18:32.11\00:18:33.81 together and, and going through a process. 00:18:33.81\00:18:36.21 So it'd be learning from one another and we'll have 00:18:36.91\00:18:39.11 different groups. 00:18:39.11\00:18:43.05 able to learn from one another. 00:18:43.05\00:18:44.22 And then we're going to have multiple cohorts like that in 00:18:44.39\00:18:47.89 different languages. 00:18:47.89\00:18:48.72 And, you know, this is something we're just starting 00:18:49.02\00:18:51.96 this year. 00:18:51.96\00:18:55.63 we've done a lot of leadership training in the past at our 00:18:55.63\00:18:57.90 conventions. 00:18:57.90\00:19:00.84 channel. 00:19:00.84\00:19:03.64 more intimate and more personal. 00:19:03.64\00:19:05.41 And so we're going to be mentoring leaders and bringing 00:19:05.77\00:19:07.84 them through a process over a three month period that we're 00:19:07.84\00:19:12.48 really excited that it's going to help elevate the ministries 00:19:12.48\00:19:15.48 and give them some more training. 00:19:15.48\00:19:18.05 Let me before you, I hear you taking a deep breath, but let 00:19:18.05\00:19:21.09 me just say this. 00:19:21.09\00:19:24.79 leadership training for what? 00:19:24.79\00:19:26.13 What is this ministry? 00:19:26.46\00:19:27.66 Outpost Centers International. 00:19:28.30\00:19:29.93 Think of it as the umbrella. 00:19:30.83\00:19:32.67 They've got over 400 ministries of lay persons. 00:19:33.40\00:19:38.71 This is laity who have ministries. 00:19:38.94\00:19:41.84 They join Outpost Centers International for all these 00:19:41.94\00:19:46.15 various services and support and the synergy and the 00:19:46.15\00:19:49.42 financial. 00:19:49.42\00:19:49.92 And they've got all these beautiful things that you 00:19:50.55\00:19:54.02 should watch the first hour and you'll understand it better or 00:19:54.02\00:19:57.23 just go to outpostcenters.org. 00:19:57.23\00:20:02.63 And it's a wonderful ministry. 00:20:03.40\00:20:05.63 Okay, honey. 00:20:06.00\00:20:06.87 Well, I just what's the name of this leadership? 00:20:07.00\00:20:09.37 Oh, that's a good question. 00:20:09.37\00:20:11.21 Global leadership training. 00:20:11.84\00:20:13.04 We're still struggling to get the right name for it, but 00:20:13.24\00:20:16.54 that's a good place to start. 00:20:16.54\00:20:17.81 It's still a little internal. 00:20:18.35\00:20:19.41 Yeah, but I think it's exciting. 00:20:19.78\00:20:21.75 Well, it is exciting. 00:20:21.78\00:20:22.85 Well, one of the things we want to do starting out is we have 00:20:23.02\00:20:27.16 to train the trainers. 00:20:27.16\00:20:28.32 So our field team is going to be some of our primary target 00:20:28.79\00:20:33.19 candidates for these first few times so that we train them so 00:20:33.19\00:20:38.03 that because they speak languages, I don't speak. 00:20:38.03\00:20:40.70 You know, I do a good day. 00:20:41.20\00:20:42.84 I can speak English and I know enough Spanish to be dangerous. 00:20:42.94\00:20:48.28 When I first met him, I said if he spoke if he spoke English, 00:20:49.58\00:20:52.95 he'd be bilingual because he's from Texas and Texans have 00:20:52.95\00:20:52.98 different words for everything. 00:20:56.79\00:20:58.99 Oh, beautiful. 00:21:01.72\00:21:03.99 Oh, but so anyway, we want to train our field team and select 00:21:03.99\00:21:10.40 other leaders that can help us to train globally because 00:21:10.40\00:21:13.74 there's not enough of us. 00:21:13.74\00:21:15.44 James and I can't do all this alone. 00:21:15.87\00:21:17.97 We've got we're bringing Michelle Dukumis, who's going 00:21:18.07\00:21:20.08 to be this training coordinator for us. 00:21:20.08\00:21:22.44 And so that's going to be a blessing for us. 00:21:23.98\00:21:26.78 And by God's grace, we believe this is going to really lift 00:21:26.85\00:21:31.12 the leaders up in a way because many times leading a ministry 00:21:31.12\00:21:36.16 is a lonely work. 00:21:36.16\00:21:37.43 It's you don't have you can't talk to your staff about issues 00:21:38.39\00:21:42.00 you may be dealing with. 00:21:42.00\00:21:43.37 You can't really talk to the people you're trying to help. 00:21:43.73\00:21:46.74 And so you're kind of stuck and you need someone you can really 00:21:47.10\00:21:51.47 come together with and have those conversations. 00:21:51.47\00:21:54.14 And you know that ministry leaders rely on God. 00:21:54.14\00:21:58.11 They're praying to God. 00:21:58.28\00:21:59.38 But there is something that God has. 00:21:59.71\00:22:02.35 He puts us in groups together because we need him to be able 00:22:02.88\00:22:11.89 to let him talk to us through other people is what I'm trying 00:22:11.89\00:22:16.40 to say. 00:22:16.40\00:22:23.10 networking synergy is that you've got somebody that 00:22:23.10\00:22:26.31 understands you, somebody else who's got that mission heart 00:22:26.31\00:22:29.98 and they're praying and you can come to I mean, I just think 00:22:29.98\00:22:34.02 it's fabulous. 00:22:34.02\00:22:34.68 We want it to be, you know, you can do anything online. 00:22:35.15\00:22:37.95 You can go watch YouTube videos all day about how to do 00:22:38.02\00:22:40.66 something. 00:22:40.66\00:22:41.46 But we want this to be an experience, not just a class, 00:22:41.86\00:22:46.66 but a real experience. 00:22:46.83\00:22:48.56 And so we're keeping the groups small and hopes that God will 00:22:49.20\00:22:53.23 bless those groups with the Holy Spirit. 00:22:53.23\00:22:55.34 So they come together in a really spirit of interaction 00:22:55.40\00:22:59.77 that is blessed by the Holy Spirit. 00:22:59.77\00:23:01.48 And that certainly will work. 00:23:01.64\00:23:03.45 The thing they've got to do is just like we all got to do. 00:23:03.65\00:23:05.88 They got to put their foot in the water. 00:23:05.95\00:23:07.72 Once they put the foot in the water and that water starts 00:23:08.22\00:23:11.62 easing to the sides and gets dry land, a million people 00:23:11.62\00:23:16.59 could not change their mind then because you've seen it 00:23:16.59\00:23:20.33 work. 00:23:20.33\00:23:20.76 And so that, I mean, action, action. 00:23:21.80\00:23:24.73 Okay. 00:23:25.00\00:23:28.74 We've got to get to this story. 00:23:30.11\00:23:31.67 I'm just going to tease to it again. 00:23:32.07\00:23:33.58 We're going to come back to the palace story and the king, but 00:23:33.68\00:23:37.95 tell us about Project X. 00:23:37.95\00:23:40.42 Oh, yeah. 00:23:40.75\00:23:46.55 ministries called LIGHT, the Lay Institute for Global Health 00:23:46.55\00:23:49.52 Training. 00:23:49.52\00:23:50.03 It's one of our very dynamic ministries because it's global 00:23:50.76\00:23:54.10 in its nature and it's training people how to minister 00:23:54.10\00:23:58.23 according to Christ's method that you've pointed out here, 00:23:58.23\00:24:01.14 using health and ministering to the needs of people as a means 00:24:01.14\00:24:05.04 to introduce Christ to them. 00:24:05.04\00:24:06.51 So LIGHT is training lay people and pastors around the world 00:24:06.94\00:24:11.01 how to use the right arm of the gospel. 00:24:11.01\00:24:13.75 Okay. 00:24:14.18\00:24:18.92 training course and they've done this in over 90 countries. 00:24:18.92\00:24:22.29 How many? 00:24:22.32\00:24:23.43 Over 40,000 church members. 00:24:23.73\00:24:25.36 It's been going, LIGHT has been around for about 15 years, a 00:24:25.56\00:24:28.43 little more than 15 years. 00:24:28.43\00:24:29.70 So I know a little bit about it because I used to be in the 00:24:30.13\00:24:33.10 leadership for it. 00:24:33.10\00:24:35.77 So I'm with OCI full time, but I'm really inspired to see what 00:24:36.77\00:24:40.51 LIGHT is doing to have some new leadership there that have a 00:24:40.51\00:24:43.18 powerful vision. 00:24:43.18\00:24:44.28 So while LIGHT has been training churches how to use 00:24:44.85\00:24:47.85 the health message to interact in their communities, we 00:24:47.85\00:24:51.99 recognize that there's still much of the world that is not 00:24:51.99\00:24:54.96 yet reached. 00:24:54.96\00:24:55.69 Project X is an initiative where we are taking the 00:24:56.19\00:25:00.66 graduates from our training courses and launching them into 00:25:00.66\00:25:04.40 unreached territories where there is no presence, no 00:25:04.40\00:25:07.44 Christian presence. 00:25:07.44\00:25:08.34 So these are difficult to reach areas, but we believe using 00:25:08.64\00:25:12.14 Christ's method by ministering to the needs, by teaching 00:25:12.14\00:25:15.64 health and so forth, that we can make friends for Jesus. 00:25:15.64\00:25:19.28 So the LIGHT course is traditionally, it's a four week 00:25:20.05\00:25:24.12 intensive course studying the gospel and health. 00:25:24.12\00:25:26.89 Then we've added two weeks more for church planting and how to 00:25:27.22\00:25:31.56 work in different cultures, cross-cultural evangelism. 00:25:31.56\00:25:34.86 So we're launching out students that have been through at least 00:25:35.23\00:25:39.07 six weeks of training. 00:25:39.07\00:25:40.50 Then it's a one year commitment. 00:25:41.27\00:25:43.44 They have to serve in a community that has not been 00:25:43.54\00:25:46.61 worked before. 00:25:46.61\00:25:47.51 And this last year was our trial run. 00:25:48.84\00:25:50.68 There were groups in Peru and in Bolivia where they are 00:25:51.48\00:25:55.62 reaching into jungle territories where there is no 00:25:55.62\00:25:58.49 Christian presence whatsoever. 00:25:58.49\00:25:59.85 And it's just been phenomenal. 00:26:00.22\00:26:02.22 So the project is going to expand. 00:26:03.02\00:26:04.83 We've got opportunities around the world, but just in the 00:26:04.99\00:26:08.13 three projects in Peru, two in Peru and one in Bolivia, 00:26:08.13\00:26:11.63 they've planted three groups. 00:26:12.40\00:26:14.70 I don't know if you call them churches quite yet, there's 00:26:15.10\00:26:17.14 three groups meeting regularly and they've baptized 27 00:26:17.14\00:26:20.31 individuals in this one year. 00:26:20.31\00:26:23.18 Now all of these projects are in cooperation with the local 00:26:23.65\00:26:27.25 conference. 00:26:27.25\00:26:27.82 So there's follow-up planned in the conference. 00:26:28.25\00:26:30.49 They're helping us choose the territories. 00:26:30.72\00:26:32.59 They're saying, we need someone to reach out in this area. 00:26:32.92\00:26:35.56 So our missionaries are pioneer missionaries going off into 00:26:35.89\00:26:38.73 these unreached areas, working for one year, making friends, 00:26:38.73\00:26:43.23 teaching cooking classes or giving consultations, just 00:26:44.10\00:26:48.04 going door-to-door or hut-to -hut and seeing what the needs 00:26:48.04\00:26:51.71 are, praying with people and just saying, hey, I'm here for 00:26:51.71\00:26:54.01 a year to help you. 00:26:54.01\00:26:55.54 That's why we're here is to be a blessing to this community. 00:26:56.21\00:26:59.15 And it's produced phenomenal results. 00:26:59.81\00:27:02.08 So we're looking at Ethiopia and Philippines. 00:27:02.12\00:27:06.25 There are still some unreached areas, of course, there. 00:27:06.45\00:27:08.96 And what's the other one? 00:27:10.29\00:27:10.93 Venezuela. 00:27:11.06\00:27:11.79 There's a huge needs in Venezuela. 00:27:11.79\00:27:13.46 So we're looking at launching up some new projects here. 00:27:13.63\00:27:15.96 And so, yeah, I just want to share a little bit Project X. 00:27:16.56\00:27:18.43 It's a new thing from Light and that's their member ministries 00:27:18.60\00:27:21.97 of OCI. 00:27:21.97\00:27:22.64 So Light is kind of a strategic partner with OCI specifically 00:27:23.20\00:27:26.94 on the medical missionary training or health education, 00:27:26.94\00:27:30.75 health evangelism type training. 00:27:31.11\00:27:33.25 Yeah. 00:27:33.52\00:27:38.05 whenever I was a youth in Seventh-day Adventism, becoming 00:27:38.05\00:27:43.89 a missionary was top of the list. 00:27:43.89\00:27:47.73 And it was all go to Africa or, you know, go to a jungle 00:27:48.40\00:27:52.23 someplace. 00:27:52.23\00:27:52.87 And here we are, you know, 60, 70, 80 years later. 00:27:53.70\00:27:57.84 I wonder if kids still have that desire because you just 00:27:58.74\00:28:03.41 says, hey, there's new territory opening up here. 00:28:03.41\00:28:06.78 You would assume that everybody's all the jungles 00:28:06.78\00:28:06.82 have been searched and everything. 00:28:10.55\00:28:12.19 I mean, boy, that shows you how naive we are as a people. 00:28:12.95\00:28:16.19 We generally are. 00:28:16.42\00:28:21.16 missions and I kind of took on the role of OCI president and 00:28:21.16\00:28:24.47 we have this vision that we should have a network of lay 00:28:24.47\00:28:27.40 ministries in every country of the world. 00:28:27.40\00:28:29.50 I think it's easy. 00:28:29.74\00:28:30.57 We got 23 countries left. 00:28:30.61\00:28:31.94 Let's just go do this. 00:28:31.97\00:28:33.07 You know, I'm just thinking a list and click them off. 00:28:33.14\00:28:35.68 I have an engineering background. 00:28:36.04\00:28:37.81 And so I'm thinking, you know, data and simple stuff, you 00:28:37.85\00:28:41.08 know, when I began to study it, it became apparent that that 00:28:41.08\00:28:44.65 was not the way it was globally. 00:28:44.65\00:28:47.32 There were 16,000 identified people groups, which is either 00:28:47.86\00:28:52.73 a different language or a different culture. 00:28:52.73\00:28:54.46 There's 7,164 actual live languages today. 00:28:55.03\00:28:59.73 Wow. 00:29:00.60\00:29:00.64 Wow. 00:29:01.00\00:29:04.71 less than 1,000 of those people groups. 00:29:04.71\00:29:06.94 Now it's true that we've got the majors covered, but if I 00:29:07.21\00:29:11.35 don't misread Revelation chapter 14 verse six, it says 00:29:11.35\00:29:15.48 to every nation and kindred in tongue and tribe and people. 00:29:15.48\00:29:19.22 That means everybody's covered. 00:29:19.32\00:29:21.02 Even those little groups isolated and in very difficult 00:29:21.82\00:29:25.86 circumstances. 00:29:25.86\00:29:26.66 Somehow the problem suddenly became larger than I had 00:29:27.20\00:29:32.80 imagined when I recognized that there's still a lot of work for 00:29:32.80\00:29:37.37 us to do. 00:29:37.37\00:29:38.01 And the truth of the story is, is they may be on their knees 00:29:39.24\00:29:43.41 right now asking for new light. 00:29:43.41\00:29:45.71 Help us. 00:29:45.91\00:29:46.92 I mean, we're running out of, we don't know what else to do. 00:29:47.18\00:29:49.75 We've intermarried and intermarried and everything. 00:29:49.92\00:29:51.85 And there, where there is no future. 00:29:52.25\00:29:53.82 Help us. 00:29:53.82\00:29:54.46 Jesus. 00:29:54.46\00:29:55.06 I met a man in Ethiopia and this is what he told me. 00:29:56.29\00:30:00.13 He said, God called me to go to this people group right here. 00:30:00.66\00:30:04.30 And he said, when I showed up, they said, why did it take you 00:30:04.73\00:30:09.97 so long? 00:30:09.97\00:30:10.67 He said, we have been praying for over a hundred years for 00:30:11.21\00:30:16.98 somebody to come here and teach us. 00:30:16.98\00:30:19.85 Now you're coming. 00:30:20.12\00:30:21.12 Why did it take you so long? 00:30:21.75\00:30:23.39 And I thought, God help us. 00:30:23.49\00:30:25.65 Why does it take us so long to get to that place? 00:30:26.45\00:30:30.39 It turns out that a missionary had come there and he said he 00:30:30.49\00:30:34.86 would send somebody. 00:30:34.86\00:30:36.00 But in the stream of time and circumstances, he went back, 00:30:37.20\00:30:40.17 but he couldn't find anybody to send. 00:30:40.24\00:30:41.70 There was nobody to go. 00:30:41.77\00:30:43.07 And when this man showed up, the question was, why did it 00:30:43.67\00:30:47.18 take you so long? 00:30:47.18\00:30:51.25 program and everything are saying, Hey, let me go. 00:30:51.25\00:30:55.42 Choose me. 00:30:55.62\00:30:56.55 Who will I send? 00:30:57.45\00:30:58.65 Who will go for us? 00:30:58.79\00:31:00.06 This is serious stuff. 00:31:01.22\00:31:02.56 I mean, we're sitting here and we're talking about the end of 00:31:02.76\00:31:05.93 time. 00:31:05.93\00:31:06.39 Yes, we are. 00:31:06.39\00:31:07.40 We're going to chapter. 00:31:07.93\00:31:09.03 I mean, we're going to verse six here. 00:31:09.23\00:31:10.83 Yeah. 00:31:10.83\00:31:11.50 Every kindred in time. 00:31:12.23\00:31:14.07 I've got two quick questions and then we've got to get to 00:31:14.07\00:31:17.07 your Nigerian king story here because I don't want to tease 00:31:17.07\00:31:22.74 to it and not get to it. 00:31:22.74\00:31:24.21 But it occurred to me when JD said that about growing up as a 00:31:24.51\00:31:29.62 child and missionary. 00:31:29.62\00:31:30.82 Do you have any, any ministries that are with OCI who are say 00:31:31.35\00:31:36.32 in the United States? 00:31:36.32\00:31:37.63 Do you have ministries here? 00:31:38.19\00:31:39.76 The majority of our ministries are based in the US. 00:31:39.89\00:31:42.46 There's about 100 ministries in the US. 00:31:42.70\00:31:44.80 So there are academies. 00:31:45.10\00:31:47.24 So it's not, it's not like talking about, you know, listen 00:31:47.60\00:31:51.61 to what I'm saying. 00:31:51.61\00:31:52.67 You're out there saying, Lord, I want more. 00:31:53.01\00:31:55.74 And God is saying, yes, I want you. 00:31:55.94\00:31:58.35 I want to send you. 00:31:58.85\00:32:00.35 So go to outpost centers. 00:32:00.55\00:32:04.62 We'll put it on the screen. 00:32:04.62\00:32:06.32 Dot O R G. 00:32:06.52\00:32:08.26 Look for job opportunities. 00:32:08.59\00:32:10.49 Look for ministry opportunities. 00:32:10.53\00:32:12.43 You just go volunteer for a few months, maybe this summer or 00:32:12.76\00:32:16.06 something, and then see if this is what God would have you to 00:32:16.06\00:32:21.00 do. 00:32:21.00\00:32:21.40 It's so special. 00:32:21.44\00:32:22.77 Now it may be as simple as getting out of your comfort 00:32:23.24\00:32:25.47 zone. 00:32:25.47\00:32:25.97 Yeah. 00:32:26.04\00:32:26.64 But now another thought, and I won't use their names. 00:32:27.41\00:32:31.28 We don't share missionaries names, but, but we have, we 00:32:31.41\00:32:37.39 have a precious couple. 00:32:37.39\00:32:39.59 I don't know if they're, they just went, I mean, they got 00:32:40.79\00:32:44.93 trained in culture. 00:32:44.93\00:32:45.99 I'm assuming do couples just go off and I mean, if they're with 00:32:46.19\00:32:49.66 OCI and maybe they're just going to try to plant to church 00:32:49.66\00:32:53.57 or do something. 00:32:53.57\00:32:54.30 It happens where people get impressed to do something. 00:32:55.30\00:32:58.14 I mean, there's, we have, we could tell stories all night 00:32:58.14\00:33:01.58 about people who have decided God is calling them and just 00:33:01.58\00:33:06.65 prayed and say, God, where do you want me to go? 00:33:06.65\00:33:08.48 He impresses them with a country. 00:33:08.85\00:33:10.25 They go, they sell everything they have. 00:33:10.49\00:33:12.09 They go to that place and they begin to work for God. 00:33:12.12\00:33:14.36 And God uses them in a powerful way to do something in a place 00:33:14.36\00:33:14.39 they had never imagined they would be speaking a language. 00:33:20.03\00:33:23.26 They never imagined they would speak, you know, doing things 00:33:23.33\00:33:27.04 they never imagined they would do. 00:33:27.04\00:33:29.04 But their testimony is this, I wouldn't want it any other way. 00:33:29.07\00:33:33.48 We talked with someone who went to India for a year. 00:33:33.94\00:33:38.15 That was 18 years ago. 00:33:38.95\00:33:40.45 Okay. 00:33:42.12\00:33:42.38 Okay. 00:33:42.38\00:33:42.42 So you had the opportunity to visit a king in a palace. 00:33:43.62\00:33:50.83 Let's talk about that. 00:33:51.06\00:33:52.33 Yeah. 00:33:52.59\00:33:56.36 It was my first trip to that area. 00:33:56.46\00:33:58.37 And so I wanted to spend a little time there. 00:33:58.90\00:34:01.17 So we went to the country of Cameroon first and our OCI 00:34:01.20\00:34:04.71 field vice president there had kind of organized things. 00:34:04.71\00:34:07.21 So we did some work there and then he said, we're going to 00:34:07.31\00:34:09.94 Nigeria next and we're going to go and we're going to see the 00:34:09.94\00:34:13.65 king. 00:34:13.65\00:34:16.48 He said, well, so I had to understand there's two kinds of 00:34:16.79\00:34:20.26 government there. 00:34:20.26\00:34:23.53 government. 00:34:23.53\00:34:24.36 And so he said, this King is a tribal King in the northern 00:34:24.76\00:34:28.70 part of Nigeria. 00:34:28.70\00:34:29.63 Now our listeners may have heard something about Northern 00:34:29.90\00:34:32.03 Nigeria, and this is the man here and he's in that northern 00:34:32.03\00:34:37.17 part of Nigeria where there's a lot of trouble sometimes and 00:34:37.17\00:34:39.97 unrest. 00:34:39.97\00:34:40.71 But we went there and we arrived one evening and he is 00:34:41.14\00:34:47.22 the King over many Kings and he lives in a palace. 00:34:47.22\00:34:51.35 Yeah. 00:34:51.59\00:34:55.62 So he's like the, the president or the King of the region where 00:34:55.82\00:34:59.83 there's 13 other Kings. 00:34:59.83\00:35:01.10 So he's got a fairly elevated position. 00:35:01.10\00:35:01.13 He's in the larger city there and he lives in the King's 00:35:03.77\00:35:07.37 palace there. 00:35:07.37\00:35:08.24 And so we went to that place and they'd invited us to go. 00:35:08.57\00:35:12.17 They knew we were coming and I, but I was a little nervous. 00:35:12.24\00:35:15.28 I'm thinking, I don't know what to do with a King. 00:35:15.44\00:35:17.18 You know, I mean, I've never really been in the presence of 00:35:17.31\00:35:19.98 a King. 00:35:19.98\00:35:21.25 What, you know, what terminology am I going to use? 00:35:21.28\00:35:24.32 And I was a little nervous, but as soon as I saw this man, he 00:35:24.59\00:35:27.69 became my friend. 00:35:27.69\00:35:28.82 He's a Seventh-day Adventist who God has used in the country 00:35:29.26\00:35:34.60 of Nigeria. 00:35:34.60\00:35:35.46 He was the head of all the customs operations in Nigeria. 00:35:35.80\00:35:40.50 And when he retired from that, they ask him if he would accept 00:35:40.90\00:35:44.64 this position to be the tribal King over this area. 00:35:44.64\00:35:48.74 And he accepted it. 00:35:48.94\00:35:50.21 And so he lives in the palace there and he takes care of the 00:35:50.41\00:35:54.55 business, the tribal business for that region. 00:35:54.55\00:35:56.85 It was amazing experience. 00:35:57.45\00:35:58.75 And when I saw him that evening, we met up in his, in 00:35:58.82\00:36:02.09 his room there in where he lives and in the palace. 00:36:02.09\00:36:05.63 And I didn't know exactly what to do, but when I saw him, it 00:36:06.06\00:36:09.23 became evident to me that he was my brother in Christ. 00:36:09.23\00:36:12.20 And I just embraced him. 00:36:12.90\00:36:14.30 And I said, my brother, I'm so happy to meet you. 00:36:14.34\00:36:17.87 And it was, it was really a moving experience for me that I 00:36:17.87\00:36:22.38 didn't feel like I had to bow down. 00:36:22.38\00:36:24.45 That wasn't the kind of person he was. 00:36:24.51\00:36:26.48 He was a very humble man and he has started a ministry there. 00:36:27.22\00:36:31.39 So one of our OCI ministries is the ministry of that King in 00:36:32.05\00:36:38.29 that part of Nigeria. 00:36:38.29\00:36:39.53 He has started a school there with over 400 children in it. 00:36:40.06\00:36:45.50 And when, when we visited that school, he brought those 00:36:45.80\00:36:49.17 children together. 00:36:49.17\00:36:50.11 The director brought those children together in the chapel 00:36:50.34\00:36:53.68 and they sang for us. 00:36:53.68\00:36:55.94 It was stunning. 00:36:56.01\00:36:57.11 It was amazing. 00:36:57.18\00:36:58.15 I was literally just amazed by the music they could produce. 00:36:58.61\00:37:04.62 The teachers there are seventh day Adventist teachers, but not 00:37:05.75\00:37:10.86 all of them. 00:37:10.86\00:37:11.79 He said, but we have to take who we can get and we have to 00:37:12.09\00:37:15.53 train them on how to run a seventh day Adventist teaching 00:37:15.53\00:37:19.07 program. 00:37:19.07\00:37:19.90 And so they've have a little clinic there where the children 00:37:20.27\00:37:24.24 and the families can get medical care. 00:37:24.24\00:37:26.21 And it's just, God is using that man. 00:37:27.01\00:37:29.54 He started a training school for training missionaries to go 00:37:30.08\00:37:33.88 into some of those other tribal areas. 00:37:33.88\00:37:36.82 And we were sitting in his parlor one evening visiting. 00:37:37.09\00:37:41.39 It was just before we left. 00:37:42.52\00:37:44.43 And as we sat there, another man came in and I was like, I 00:37:44.79\00:37:48.23 was wondering who he was. 00:37:48.23\00:37:49.53 He was one of the other Kings. 00:37:50.20\00:37:52.17 And I found out he was not of our faith. 00:37:53.57\00:37:56.44 He was a Muslim. 00:37:56.81\00:37:57.97 And so I was a little like, I'm not sure how to interact in 00:37:57.97\00:38:02.18 that situation, but as we began to end our discussion, I was 00:38:02.18\00:38:06.48 just convicted. 00:38:06.48\00:38:08.12 I should ask. 00:38:08.18\00:38:08.98 And I said, would it be okay if we prayed? 00:38:09.08\00:38:10.72 Oh yes, it's wonderful. 00:38:11.09\00:38:12.29 Let's pray. 00:38:12.32\00:38:13.05 And so I turned to the man who had come in and I says, is 00:38:13.52\00:38:16.39 there anything we could pray for you about? 00:38:16.39\00:38:18.26 And he said, well, I'm having some health challenges. 00:38:18.79\00:38:20.90 And so we prayed together there, a Muslim and Christians 00:38:22.03\00:38:27.04 praying together to the God of the universe, appealing to help 00:38:27.04\00:38:32.17 that man with his health. 00:38:32.17\00:38:33.38 I believe that God's going to use that King in that place to 00:38:34.38\00:38:39.25 bring the gospel to some of those challenging areas. 00:38:39.25\00:38:42.25 I can see that God is doing something there and God shows 00:38:42.58\00:38:48.72 up. 00:38:49.42\00:38:49.99 Sometimes we think we've got to do something. 00:38:51.93\00:38:54.63 We put him in a box, don't we? 00:38:54.83\00:38:56.80 But he's doing things ahead of us and he shows up and we just 00:38:57.03\00:39:01.64 need to be present and to agree to do what he asked us to do. 00:39:01.64\00:39:06.37 Because sometimes I was hesitant to say, well, could we 00:39:06.51\00:39:10.28 pray? 00:39:10.28\00:39:10.68 But God had already opened that door because I learned that 00:39:11.95\00:39:15.72 this man said, I love this King, this man who's a Seventh 00:39:15.72\00:39:21.02 -day Adventist Christian. 00:39:21.02\00:39:21.96 He's almost like my father. 00:39:22.29\00:39:24.06 And so they have a very good relationship and he respects 00:39:25.03\00:39:31.17 him and he's anxious to know things and he wants to know 00:39:31.17\00:39:36.71 more. 00:39:36.71\00:39:37.07 And so I just saw it. 00:39:37.51\00:39:39.54 God showed up here and he's doing something and he's making 00:39:39.54\00:39:43.85 progress and teaching people about his way. 00:39:43.85\00:39:46.95 Praise the Lord. 00:39:47.55\00:39:48.48 Isn't it amazing? 00:39:48.95\00:39:50.52 You go from the story of a Buddhist who hated Christians, 00:39:50.95\00:39:57.63 who couldn't speak English and who's now teaching in his own 00:39:57.83\00:40:03.23 country as a converted Christian and he's teaching all 00:40:03.23\00:40:06.67 of these prisoners. 00:40:06.67\00:40:07.50 You take a man with this humble heart whose God has exalted to 00:40:07.90\00:40:13.04 such a position. 00:40:13.04\00:40:13.98 And, you know, I have to tell you a story. 00:40:14.31\00:40:16.38 I had a doctor that didn't even cross my mind that he was 00:40:17.08\00:40:21.95 Muslim. 00:40:21.95\00:40:22.35 How dumb am I? 00:40:22.55\00:40:23.52 So I was seeing him for a few years and I gave him Exalting 00:40:24.35\00:40:27.92 His Word. 00:40:27.92\00:40:31.33 into His Presence, The Grace Pipeline. 00:40:31.33\00:40:33.43 I'm giving him these different books. 00:40:33.43\00:40:35.13 And then one day I'm asking him, how can I pray for you? 00:40:35.96\00:40:39.30 Because he had such a heart. 00:40:39.30\00:40:41.10 I figured he was a Christian. 00:40:41.27\00:40:42.54 And come to find out his family was still in an area that a lot 00:40:43.00\00:40:48.51 of war was going on. 00:40:48.51\00:40:49.84 And I looked at him, I said, Oh, you're a Muslim. 00:40:50.78\00:40:56.08 And he said, Yes, but you and I, he said, I believe we 00:40:56.52\00:41:00.56 worship the same God. 00:41:00.56\00:41:02.39 And so, you know, there's things that it's like how 00:41:03.16\00:41:06.76 Buddhists hate Christians without even meeting a 00:41:06.76\00:41:10.83 Christian. 00:41:10.83\00:41:11.07 We have to be careful that that's a kind of prejudice. 00:41:12.00\00:41:19.11 It's a form of pride. 00:41:19.64\00:41:21.08 We think we know best. 00:41:21.61\00:41:22.98 God can bring people together in amazing ways. 00:41:23.38\00:41:27.25 And that's His promise. 00:41:27.72\00:41:29.45 That is the Gospel right there. 00:41:29.92\00:41:32.52 I will bring my children from the East and the West and the 00:41:32.59\00:41:35.86 North and the South. 00:41:35.86\00:41:36.69 And His children are all human beings. 00:41:37.49\00:41:40.80 I would imagine every one of us will learn a lot. 00:41:40.80\00:41:43.50 But not an isolated group. 00:41:43.57\00:41:45.07 Okay. 00:41:45.30\00:41:47.57 I'm usually not a person to go through this, but I just, JD 00:41:47.87\00:41:51.44 was on their website earlier and the website is 00:41:51.44\00:41:55.78 outpostcenters.org. 00:41:59.28\00:42:00.45 Outpostcenters.org. 00:42:01.45\00:42:03.25 It's there on the screen. 00:42:03.65\00:42:04.62 Tell us some of the positions that are being advertised right 00:42:05.25\00:42:09.42 now. 00:42:09.42\00:42:13.29 One thing I can do, Shelley, is I can read. 00:42:13.29\00:42:13.33 I may be lacking in some skills, but I can read. 00:42:17.57\00:42:20.54 And I find this just absolutely exciting because we're going 00:42:20.54\00:42:26.11 from A to Z here and it has nothing to do with y'all. 00:42:26.11\00:42:30.55 This is people that I want to do something. 00:42:30.68\00:42:33.62 Yeah. 00:42:33.65\00:42:35.92 These are all of our ministries that have these needs here. 00:42:36.05\00:42:38.92 All these entities out there says, hey, we have these music 00:42:38.92\00:42:43.46 caretakers, cooks, health food, massage, massages, chefs, 00:42:43.46\00:42:50.17 lifestyle physicians, probably a lifestyle trained person, 00:42:50.77\00:42:57.04 physicians trained person, therapists, translators, 00:42:57.54\00:43:01.98 editors, gardeners, farmers, horticulturists, construction, 00:43:02.34\00:43:08.18 project manager, graphic designers, fundraisers, RNs, 00:43:08.58\00:43:13.49 LVNs, Carpenters, Development Directors. 00:43:13.82\00:43:16.66 I want to run out of steam. 00:43:17.43\00:43:18.63 Biblical Ministries, Accountants, and then there's 00:43:18.99\00:43:22.60 that last two words, much more. 00:43:22.60\00:43:27.54 Sure, that's just a small portion. 00:43:27.74\00:43:30.24 There's a lot of needs. 00:43:30.37\00:43:31.44 But when you're sitting here saying, hey, 400 individual 00:43:31.57\00:43:36.54 Ministries around the world, well, you can see that this is 00:43:36.54\00:43:41.42 just a little bit of the top of the mountain. 00:43:41.42\00:43:46.05 That's right. 00:43:46.32\00:43:51.53 because they're worried they are going to end up in the 00:43:51.53\00:43:53.70 jungle of Africa. 00:43:53.70\00:43:54.86 So please know that many of those Ministries are right here 00:43:55.56\00:43:58.90 in the United States and we need missionaries. 00:43:58.90\00:44:03.07 I know people from Japan that are sending missionaries over 00:44:03.77\00:44:09.31 here because they think America needs us missionaries badly. 00:44:09.31\00:44:12.68 That's true in some respects. 00:44:13.15\00:44:14.35 Yes, it is. 00:44:14.48\00:44:15.25 I wanted to highlight the first one you read and just tell you 00:44:15.72\00:44:19.52 a short story about a need I observed. 00:44:19.52\00:44:22.32 I was in the country of Ethiopia. 00:44:22.72\00:44:24.23 We were holding an OCI convention there and I went to 00:44:24.29\00:44:27.93 see a Ministry. 00:44:27.93\00:44:28.73 This Ministry is called La Esperance. 00:44:29.23\00:44:31.70 It's a combination of an orphanage and a school. 00:44:32.43\00:44:35.24 They have about 100 orphans and they have about 1,500 other 00:44:35.24\00:44:39.94 students who come from the community. 00:44:39.94\00:44:41.81 And so it is a unique combination. 00:44:42.38\00:44:44.55 They have an agriculture program. 00:44:44.68\00:44:46.01 They have all this stuff they're doing, a school going. 00:44:46.11\00:44:48.92 It's just a thriving operation. 00:44:49.15\00:44:50.75 When you drive in the gate, you know something's happening 00:44:50.82\00:44:53.25 there. 00:44:53.25\00:44:56.49 things happening. 00:44:56.49\00:44:57.16 Which country is that one in? 00:44:57.29\00:44:58.36 In Ethiopia, okay? 00:44:58.39\00:45:00.20 They have a number of La Esperances around the world. 00:45:00.76\00:45:03.47 This one's in Ethiopia. 00:45:03.47\00:45:04.80 And I sat down with the director and I said, what are 00:45:05.30\00:45:08.64 your needs and how can we help? 00:45:08.64\00:45:10.11 We're just here for a few hours but we want to know and I'm 00:45:10.21\00:45:12.87 trying to discover. 00:45:12.87\00:45:13.81 And she said, right now I need a music teacher. 00:45:14.41\00:45:16.54 And I noticed that he read music teachers, one of those. 00:45:16.81\00:45:19.55 And I'm thinking maybe there's a listener today. 00:45:20.08\00:45:23.69 Maybe there's a person viewing this program. 00:45:23.95\00:45:26.62 He says, I would love to go and help with music. 00:45:27.09\00:45:29.32 I would love to be able to interact in that environment 00:45:29.32\00:45:33.13 and teach children music. 00:45:33.93\00:45:35.43 And they're praying for you right now to come. 00:45:35.43\00:45:37.00 Yeah, there's people. 00:45:37.33\00:45:38.50 I just want you to know those are real things. 00:45:38.67\00:45:40.27 There's real people. 00:45:40.54\00:45:41.74 There's real ministries. 00:45:41.80\00:45:42.87 There's real children who need help. 00:45:42.94\00:45:45.37 That they could have a music program that would glorify God. 00:45:45.84\00:45:49.31 Amen. 00:45:49.51\00:45:55.25 thinking, I teach music. 00:45:55.25\00:45:57.75 Amen. 00:45:57.75\00:45:58.22 Maybe I could go. 00:45:58.22\00:45:59.29 Well, if you want to find out more, you can go to our 00:45:59.39\00:46:01.12 website. 00:46:01.12\00:46:01.56 You can contact us. 00:46:01.66\00:46:02.59 And we'd be happy to help connect you with some of those 00:46:03.06\00:46:06.46 things. 00:46:06.46\00:46:11.37 years of my life is I don't have enough information. 00:46:11.37\00:46:14.97 This is information galore. 00:46:16.20\00:46:18.81 This is a starting block that you know somebody to call 00:46:19.44\00:46:22.78 because you can read what's down there, what the web page 00:46:22.78\00:46:26.25 is. 00:46:26.25\00:46:31.49 I could just add to this that I would encourage if someone 00:46:32.92\00:46:36.52 listening is thinking about getting engaged in ministry or 00:46:36.52\00:46:40.30 starting their own ministry, it's good to get a little 00:46:40.30\00:46:43.90 experience first. 00:46:43.90\00:46:49.17 mission center, centers of influence, working at one that 00:46:49.17\00:46:52.54 you admire is a good, or it could be in education or in 00:46:52.54\00:46:57.11 health, volunteer, get some experience. 00:46:57.11\00:46:59.81 That will give you more power to starting your own ministry 00:47:00.22\00:47:03.15 so you can not be starting from scratch with no experience. 00:47:03.15\00:47:07.39 And I think that you're qualified to have this 00:47:07.56\00:47:09.92 conversation right here. 00:47:09.92\00:47:11.13 You're a product of what you're talking about, which is 00:47:11.89\00:47:16.53 fantastic. 00:47:16.53\00:47:17.30 And we're going back to the personal testimony there. 00:47:18.13\00:47:20.87 We've just got about 10 minutes left, but for someone that may 00:47:21.10\00:47:24.71 not have caught the first hour, remind us again what the 00:47:24.71\00:47:28.51 support, the structure of OCI, why would a ministry, maybe you 00:47:28.51\00:47:32.65 are wanting to start a ministry or have started a ministry, why 00:47:32.65\00:47:36.38 would someone want to become part of OCI? 00:47:36.38\00:47:39.92 Well, when you join OCI, you're joining a community of like 00:47:40.72\00:47:44.53 -minded people that have the goal of spreading the three and 00:47:44.53\00:47:47.23 those message to the world. 00:47:47.23\00:47:48.36 And in that community, there's collaboration, there's, we have 00:47:48.70\00:47:53.44 conventions, there's networking, there are prayer 00:47:53.44\00:47:56.30 chains, there's support. 00:47:56.30\00:47:57.74 We have counselors, we have experienced people within our 00:47:58.37\00:48:02.04 network that will give advice to different types of 00:48:02.04\00:48:04.78 ministries. 00:48:04.78\00:48:05.65 We offer leadership training. 00:48:05.78\00:48:06.98 We showcase our ministries and promote our ministries from our 00:48:07.52\00:48:10.45 website and other social media platforms and so forth. 00:48:10.45\00:48:13.66 So they can, and if they're not a 501c3, they can have receive 00:48:13.66\00:48:18.13 funds because OCI is, which is Outpost Centers International, 00:48:18.13\00:48:23.30 is a 501c3 ministry, so it can come into you and people can 00:48:23.67\00:48:28.34 get the tax deduction and then it gets passed on to the 00:48:28.34\00:48:31.54 ministry. 00:48:31.54\00:48:36.81 like, there's like some social media components too. 00:48:36.81\00:48:38.91 People can follow your ministry, they can like, they 00:48:38.91\00:48:41.82 can share, and so they get updated. 00:48:41.82\00:48:44.25 If you post a fundraising project, all of your followers 00:48:44.35\00:48:47.16 will get a notification. 00:48:47.16\00:48:48.32 So the website's built to support the ministries and to 00:48:49.06\00:48:52.26 support the work that they do. 00:48:52.26\00:48:53.26 It's a very sophisticated webpage. 00:48:53.50\00:48:55.96 I mean, it's up to date. 00:48:56.93\00:48:58.07 Praise the Lord. 00:48:58.07\00:48:58.10 So yeah, the strongest components are probably in 00:48:59.63\00:49:02.34 fundraising. 00:49:02.34\00:49:03.07 We've got a team of accountants that keep track of everything 00:49:03.57\00:49:05.91 and we have a lot of accountability because we take 00:49:05.91\00:49:10.15 responsibility when we're receiving the donations. 00:49:10.15\00:49:12.38 We also have this whole volunteer section so you can 00:49:13.15\00:49:16.28 connect people with jobs. 00:49:16.28\00:49:17.49 Our ministries can post job opportunities and anyone that's 00:49:18.19\00:49:21.49 viewing here, you can go and make yourself available. 00:49:21.49\00:49:24.26 There's a page where people can scroll, our ministries can 00:49:24.66\00:49:27.13 scroll through and try to see who they might be able to hire, 00:49:27.13\00:49:30.60 you know, or use for a short -term mission trip. 00:49:30.63\00:49:32.87 So if you want to put your profile online right now, you 00:49:33.13\00:49:36.44 can go to outpostcenters.org, put your profile on, and then 00:49:36.44\00:49:43.31 ministries who are looking for someone just like you will be 00:49:43.31\00:49:47.75 able to contact you. 00:49:47.75\00:49:49.18 Yeah. 00:49:49.55\00:49:52.19 covered yet is membership requirements. 00:49:52.19\00:49:54.82 Yes. 00:49:55.06\00:49:55.59 Who qualifies to become a member of OCI? 00:49:56.73\00:49:59.09 So if you are, first of all, you have to be a ministry. 00:50:01.00\00:50:03.20 We are a network of ministries. 00:50:03.43\00:50:05.10 So if you have a ministry that has the goal of sharing Christ 00:50:05.53\00:50:09.47 and sharing the three of those messages, you can be a part of 00:50:09.47\00:50:12.17 OCI. 00:50:12.17\00:50:14.98 So if you just have an idea, if it's a concept, we won't accept 00:50:15.61\00:50:19.01 that. 00:50:19.01\00:50:21.28 You have to be... 00:50:22.85\00:50:24.25 That's smart. 00:50:24.25\00:50:24.72 Yeah. 00:50:24.99\00:50:30.19 Adventist Church, right? 00:50:30.19\00:50:33.63 Seventh -day Adventist Church, which is to spread the three of 00:50:33.63\00:50:35.63 those messages and the everlasting gospel to the whole 00:50:35.63\00:50:38.07 world. 00:50:38.07\00:50:38.67 If you have that in mind, and that you acknowledge that the 00:50:39.33\00:50:43.71 tithe should be sent to the organized church, okay? 00:50:43.71\00:50:46.41 That's a requirement that we have. 00:50:46.57\00:50:48.44 Our ministries don't accept tithe money. 00:50:48.94\00:50:50.95 We believe that should go to the organized church. 00:50:51.18\00:50:53.28 We're supporting ministries of the church. 00:50:54.62\00:50:56.62 Now, we receive donations, so we recommend that people could 00:50:56.79\00:51:00.22 give beyond tithe they can give to our ministries. 00:51:00.22\00:51:03.89 And so those are just basic requirements to be in harmony 00:51:04.59\00:51:07.86 with the Bible, not having strange doctrines and so forth, 00:51:07.86\00:51:13.74 and with our health ministries that there's not weird stuff 00:51:14.17\00:51:17.04 going on. 00:51:17.04\00:51:19.44 Yeah, exactly. 00:51:19.44\00:51:19.47 But it's Bible-based and with the spirit of prophecy to guide 00:51:20.71\00:51:25.38 us and to be within. 00:51:25.38\00:51:29.35 We want to be a part of a plan that cooperatively with the 00:51:29.82\00:51:33.56 organized church and with the lay people and the supporting 00:51:33.56\00:51:36.19 ministries we're all working together to finish God's work. 00:51:36.19\00:51:39.23 Amen, amen. 00:51:39.23\00:51:40.03 All right, we only have a few minutes left. 00:51:40.40\00:51:42.36 Steve, I know you've been recuperating since you came 00:51:42.36\00:51:45.90 back with Bolivia that you just returned from. 00:51:45.90\00:51:48.07 More than that, yeah. 00:51:48.07\00:51:49.60 Yeah, bless your heart. 00:51:49.60\00:51:51.11 Workers, workers, workers, this is... 00:51:53.41\00:51:57.78 We are very convinced as a couple, as a ministry here, 00:51:57.78\00:52:02.22 it's not long before the Lord returns. 00:52:02.95\00:52:06.02 And we, you know, sometimes I pray, I'm praying, Oh, 00:52:06.35\00:52:09.06 Maranatha, come, oh Lord. 00:52:09.09\00:52:10.43 And then I'm going, Oh, Lord, give us, you know, one more 00:52:10.49\00:52:13.66 day, one more hour. 00:52:13.66\00:52:14.73 Give us time to reach more people and be more intentional 00:52:14.83\00:52:19.67 even as a couple. 00:52:19.67\00:52:21.10 I mean, yes, we're in ministry but let us be more intentional 00:52:21.20\00:52:25.27 wherever we go. 00:52:25.27\00:52:26.54 Workers, workers, workers, you said that was the most 00:52:27.11\00:52:31.21 important thing that you wanted to focus on. 00:52:31.21\00:52:33.85 You know, Jesus said, I pray you therefore the Lord of the 00:52:33.92\00:52:37.32 harvest that he will send forth labors. 00:52:37.32\00:52:40.26 I believe we're living in the time of earth's history when 00:52:40.82\00:52:44.23 it's critical. 00:52:44.23\00:52:45.46 If there was ever a time that I have personally observed, it's 00:52:46.13\00:52:50.27 now when the political, the natural systems of the earth, 00:52:50.27\00:52:56.71 you just name it, it's in turmoil. 00:52:56.74\00:52:58.64 Jesus is coming soon. 00:52:58.97\00:53:00.68 And what he needs is our willingness to get involved. 00:53:01.21\00:53:04.58 And sometimes we complicate it too much. 00:53:04.58\00:53:07.45 I see we're down to just almost four minutes, but I have to 00:53:08.12\00:53:11.15 tell you one last story. 00:53:11.15\00:53:12.25 In the country of Cuba, we have a ministry called World Youth 00:53:13.46\00:53:18.06 Group. 00:53:18.06\00:53:18.66 They train people, you've probably met Henry and Arnold, 00:53:19.26\00:53:22.33 to send them. 00:53:23.10\00:53:24.20 I went there to visit the country and to work with the 00:53:25.27\00:53:29.17 ministry for a little while. 00:53:29.17\00:53:30.74 And I said, I want to go to a certain city because they told 00:53:31.07\00:53:35.11 me the story in that city of how they started the church. 00:53:35.11\00:53:37.71 Sometimes we think it's too complicated. 00:53:38.05\00:53:39.71 They went to this city and they said, we don't know what to do 00:53:40.42\00:53:43.62 here. 00:53:43.62\00:53:45.42 Their job was to start a Seventh-day Adventist Church in 00:53:45.85\00:53:48.52 that city. 00:53:48.52\00:53:49.12 They just walked around town. 00:53:49.69\00:53:50.79 They didn't know what to do. 00:53:50.93\00:53:52.26 The Lord impressed them to go to the bus stations. 00:53:52.96\00:53:55.13 They went to the bus station. 00:53:55.20\00:53:56.30 They said, what are we going to do here? 00:53:56.46\00:53:57.73 And what they found in the bus station was dirty toilets. 00:53:58.77\00:54:02.67 And they began to clean those toilets. 00:54:04.07\00:54:06.47 And people began to ask questions. 00:54:07.51\00:54:09.81 Why are you doing this? 00:54:10.65\00:54:11.85 Even some came and said, can we help you? 00:54:13.05\00:54:15.05 Oh yeah, sure you can help us. 00:54:15.35\00:54:16.95 And they took their own meager money and were buying supplies 00:54:17.35\00:54:20.86 and cleaning the toilets. 00:54:20.86\00:54:22.02 Today, there is a Seventh-day Adventist Church in that town 00:54:23.79\00:54:27.03 that I went personally and saw because of cleaning toilets. 00:54:27.03\00:54:31.23 Sometimes we complicate it too much. 00:54:31.33\00:54:33.20 God can use us in simple ways to do amazing work. 00:54:34.14\00:54:39.37 But we have to be willing. 00:54:40.38\00:54:41.74 And so God can do a lot of things. 00:54:42.01\00:54:44.45 And ultimately, He could make the rocks to cry out. 00:54:44.58\00:54:47.22 But I believe it is our privilege to engage with God, 00:54:47.52\00:54:52.02 allow Him to use us to do something in our own 00:54:52.32\00:54:58.69 communities, in our own neighborhoods, or maybe 00:54:58.69\00:55:01.70 globally, I don't know. 00:55:01.70\00:55:03.00 But to say, God, whatever you want me to do, I will do it. 00:55:03.26\00:55:06.33 Wherever you want me to go, I will go. 00:55:06.63\00:55:08.20 And if it's clean toilets, I will clean toilets. 00:55:08.40\00:55:10.71 Because that can make an impact. 00:55:11.77\00:55:13.84 The two things that I see there, it's not just 00:55:13.94\00:55:16.95 willingness, but it's humility. 00:55:16.95\00:55:18.71 It's humility. 00:55:19.45\00:55:20.12 You know, it's about what this man who was formerly the 00:55:20.62\00:55:26.49 Buddhist learned, is he learned in his, what he felt was a 00:55:26.49\00:55:32.23 failure when he was just working with the children. 00:55:32.23\00:55:34.76 He learned total dependence upon God when he was out there 00:55:35.03\00:55:38.63 fasting and praying and screaming in the jungle. 00:55:38.63\00:55:42.24 He realized, listen, none of us can do it. 00:55:42.34\00:55:45.21 Nobody's special. 00:55:45.37\00:55:46.27 And you hear this all the time, but it is so true. 00:55:46.68\00:55:49.61 God does not call the qualified. 00:55:50.08\00:55:52.88 He qualifies the called. 00:55:52.88\00:55:56.08 So if you come to the Lord, He can use you. 00:55:56.45\00:55:59.79 And I just want to encourage you once again, these gentlemen 00:55:59.89\00:56:03.96 could regale us with the most amazing, inspiring, uplifting 00:56:03.96\00:56:09.16 stories all night. 00:56:09.16\00:56:10.17 But what my encouragement to you is listen to the call of 00:56:10.60\00:56:15.97 the Lord. 00:56:15.97\00:56:16.24 Go to outpostcenters.org. 00:56:16.60\00:56:21.14 See, check it out. 00:56:21.14\00:56:22.78 See what God would have you to do. 00:56:22.94\00:56:25.25 I just want to thank you so much, Steve, for being back 00:56:25.45\00:56:29.75 here again. 00:56:29.75\00:56:30.29 And it's just, James, God bless you. 00:56:30.55\00:56:34.39 And it's so exciting to see what God has done in your life 00:56:34.42\00:56:38.09 and how He turned your life around for so many years. 00:56:38.09\00:56:41.73 It's not a recent thing, but that's the way we feel. 00:56:41.80\00:56:45.53 It's just, it's like it happened yesterday and God just 00:56:46.03\00:56:49.14 put us on the right track. 00:56:49.14\00:56:50.57 And you know what? 00:56:50.57\00:56:51.71 When you work to bring glory to God, there's not anything 00:56:52.04\00:56:58.38 that's more rewarding in the whole wide world. 00:56:58.38\00:57:00.82 Thank you both for being here. 00:57:01.18\00:57:02.78 Our prayer for you is that the grace of our Lord and Savior 00:57:02.92\00:57:06.35 Jesus Christ and the love of the Father and the fellowship 00:57:06.35\00:57:10.56 of the Holy Spirit will be with you always. 00:57:10.56\00:57:13.06 God bless you. 00:57:13.46\00:57:14.30