I want to spend my life, mending broken people. 00:00:00.90\00:00:12.81 I want to spend my life, removing pain. 00:00:14.11\00:00:23.79 Lord, let my words heal a heart that hurts. 00:00:23.79\00:00:34.50 I want to spend my life, mending broken people. 00:00:35.30\00:00:44.41 I want to spend my life, mending broken people. 00:00:45.54\00:00:55.12 Hello and welcome to another 3ABN Today live program. 00:01:05.53\00:01:08.43 We are so glad that you've joined us this evening. 00:01:08.56\00:01:11.63 Thank you for being a part of the 3ABN family. 00:01:11.97\00:01:14.77 You know, Jill, it's a blessing, isn't it? 00:01:14.87\00:01:16.20 We're talking to our family at home and we thank you for your 00:01:16.20\00:01:16.24 prayers and your continued monthly support of 3ABN. 00:01:20.48\00:01:25.01 It allows us to go and reach the world with the undiluted 00:01:25.15\00:01:28.22 3Angels messages of Revelation chapter 14 and incredible times 00:01:28.22\00:01:32.25 that we all live in and so people are looking for hope and 00:01:32.25\00:01:35.29 encouragement and I know, Jill, that tonight's program will be 00:01:35.29\00:01:39.83 a blessing to many. 00:01:39.83\00:01:41.23 And how do we know that? 00:01:41.56\00:01:42.73 Well, we already prayed before we started this program and 00:01:42.80\00:01:46.20 tonight's program is a really special one and we have a 00:01:46.20\00:01:49.90 really special... 00:01:49.90\00:01:50.81 I'm going to call him 3ABN family member. 00:01:50.81\00:01:52.71 I don't want to call them guest. 00:01:52.97\00:01:54.14 It's been a little while since he's been here at 3ABN but what 00:01:54.21\00:01:58.01 a privilege. 00:01:58.01\00:02:01.98 here this evening. 00:02:01.98\00:02:03.08 But we're talking about communication. 00:02:03.12\00:02:05.42 What type of communication has to do with prayer? 00:02:05.79\00:02:08.96 And I think that's such a special thing to think about 00:02:09.32\00:02:12.39 talking to the Creator God, right? 00:02:12.39\00:02:15.13 What an amazing way to communicate through prayer with 00:02:15.13\00:02:18.37 God. 00:02:18.37\00:02:18.63 It is indeed. 00:02:18.80\00:02:19.57 Tonight's topic is life -changing prayers. 00:02:19.70\00:02:22.54 That's right. 00:02:22.54\00:02:23.27 We're going to speak with a man that I have respected for many 00:02:23.77\00:02:27.18 years but this is our first time to interact here together. 00:02:27.18\00:02:30.48 Pastor Pavel Goya has been at 3ABN for many years. 00:02:31.15\00:02:34.72 We were trying to remember the first time he ever came on but 00:02:34.75\00:02:38.02 I don't know. 00:02:38.02\00:02:38.69 It's been maybe 30 years ago. 00:02:38.69\00:02:40.52 I'm not sure. 00:02:40.52\00:02:40.56 tonight. 00:02:46.16\00:02:49.86 You travel all over the world. 00:02:49.90\00:02:51.40 Incidentally, he's coming again to 3ABN for our summer camp 00:02:51.70\00:02:56.54 meeting and we'll be presenting a couple of messages at that 00:02:56.54\00:02:59.57 time as well. 00:02:59.57\00:03:03.68 You are the ministry magazine editor there at the General 00:03:03.78\00:03:07.65 Conference of the Seventh-day Adventist Church as well as 00:03:07.65\00:03:10.49 associate director for the ministerial department. 00:03:10.49\00:03:14.16 Is that correct, associate ministerial director? 00:03:14.16\00:03:15.99 Associate ministerial secretary, yes. 00:03:16.46\00:03:17.93 We're so glad to have you here tonight. 00:03:18.46\00:03:20.16 My privilege to be here. 00:03:20.16\00:03:21.56 It's amazing. 00:03:22.06\00:03:22.76 He was talking about his schedule. 00:03:22.83\00:03:23.90 He was just reading it to us because he's literally in today 00:03:24.03\00:03:27.00 and out today here at 3ABN. 00:03:27.00\00:03:28.47 It's an amazing schedule but reading this schedule to us, 00:03:28.57\00:03:31.27 it's amazing. 00:03:31.31\00:03:35.48 with others. 00:03:35.48\00:03:36.54 But in case someone doesn't really know you, Pastor, maybe 00:03:36.91\00:03:39.31 tell us a little bit about yourself. 00:03:39.31\00:03:40.88 You're married, have some children, grandchildren and 00:03:41.05\00:03:44.15 just tell us a little bit about yourself. 00:03:44.15\00:03:45.85 One wife, two boys, four grandchildren. 00:03:46.25\00:03:48.19 One wife, alright, that's important. 00:03:48.66\00:03:50.59 How many years with the one wife? 00:03:50.79\00:03:52.23 40. 00:03:52.46\00:03:52.93 Wow. 00:03:53.60\00:03:54.10 Congratulations. 00:03:54.63\00:03:55.16 I'm going to say something. 00:03:55.60\00:03:56.60 My grandfather and grandmother were married 82 years. 00:03:56.90\00:04:00.07 82? 00:04:00.80\00:04:01.34 82. 00:04:01.77\00:04:02.14 That's a lifetime. 00:04:02.40\00:04:07.24 21. 00:04:07.24\00:04:07.74 Wow. 00:04:08.31\00:04:11.31 That's amazing. 00:04:11.35\00:04:12.25 Wow. 00:04:12.25\00:04:12.85 That's amazing. 00:04:13.15\00:04:13.78 Praise God for that. 00:04:13.88\00:04:14.92 Amen. 00:04:14.95\00:04:15.38 Go ahead. 00:04:15.95\00:04:16.85 I was just going to say you've been a pastor many years. 00:04:17.15\00:04:18.89 What led you into the ministry in the first place? 00:04:19.09\00:04:21.86 Oh, that's a long story. 00:04:22.12\00:04:23.73 I don't know if we want to go there but in a few words, when 00:04:24.16\00:04:29.23 I was four, one pastor from the Union in Romania visited our 00:04:29.23\00:04:35.00 church and he spoke from Jeremiah 29, 11 and he pointed 00:04:35.00\00:04:40.88 in the congregation, saying, God has a plan for you. 00:04:40.88\00:04:44.25 And his finger, I thought, was towards me. 00:04:44.55\00:04:46.78 And then he said, God has a plan for everybody. 00:04:48.32\00:04:50.35 The sad part is that people are more interested in God's 00:04:50.59\00:04:53.62 blessing for their plan but they never seek God's plan. 00:04:53.62\00:04:56.93 And he said, God has a plan. 00:04:57.93\00:04:59.79 If you follow that plan, God can use anybody because it's 00:04:59.83\00:05:02.66 based on his power. 00:05:02.66\00:05:04.00 And so during the break after church, I went in the front 00:05:04.93\00:05:10.54 yard of the church and my father and the local pastor and 00:05:10.54\00:05:13.78 the visiting pastor from the Union and another elder, the 00:05:13.78\00:05:16.85 four of them were talking under an almond tree. 00:05:16.85\00:05:19.98 And so I go there under the almond tree and I get in 00:05:20.75\00:05:24.92 between the four of them. 00:05:24.92\00:05:26.05 I was only four. 00:05:26.29\00:05:27.36 And I look up to my father and said, Really? 00:05:27.62\00:05:30.26 God has a plan for everybody? 00:05:30.33\00:05:31.73 And the four of them looked down and my father said, yes. 00:05:32.43\00:05:34.93 I said, Come on, including children? 00:05:35.26\00:05:37.90 And they looked to each other and my father smiled and said, 00:05:38.90\00:05:40.74 yes. 00:05:40.97\00:05:41.47 And he said, Didn't God call Samuel? 00:05:41.97\00:05:43.71 He was six. 00:05:43.81\00:05:44.37 And I said, But I am only four. 00:05:44.51\00:05:45.91 Can God use somebody that is four? 00:05:46.91\00:05:49.04 And they looked to each other and said, yes. 00:05:50.01\00:05:52.01 And I said, How do I know if God calls me? 00:05:52.85\00:05:54.65 What is the plan? 00:05:54.65\00:05:55.48 And my father said, Well, you pray. 00:05:56.25\00:05:57.85 I said, Okay, hold on a second. 00:05:58.45\00:06:00.12 So I run. 00:06:00.66\00:06:01.59 I get under an apple tree that was a Golden Delicious, big, 00:06:02.06\00:06:06.29 old, low branches, loaded with apples. 00:06:06.53\00:06:09.56 And parenthesis, I remember every Sabbath there were 00:06:10.27\00:06:12.27 people, Don't touch the apples. 00:06:12.27\00:06:13.90 It's Sabbath. 00:06:14.10\00:06:16.00 And I would always take an apple and eat it. 00:06:16.67\00:06:18.84 And eat it on the Sabbath. 00:06:18.84\00:06:19.77 So I go under the apple tree. 00:06:19.77\00:06:21.24 I kneel down. 00:06:21.41\00:06:24.95 for my life. 00:06:24.95\00:06:25.68 Would you please tell me and I will follow it. 00:06:25.98\00:06:27.95 Would you please? 00:06:27.98\00:06:28.68 And I wait for a few seconds and jump up and run. 00:06:29.58\00:06:31.55 And I say to my dad, He doesn't answer. 00:06:31.55\00:06:34.76 And my dad says, You would expect a voice. 00:06:35.89\00:06:38.69 And my father said something that later I learned is from 00:06:39.46\00:06:42.00 the special prophecy that we talk to God through prayer and 00:06:42.00\00:06:45.33 God talks to us through the word. 00:06:45.33\00:06:46.90 And she says, God talks to us through the word just as he was 00:06:47.67\00:06:50.87 next to us and we talked face to face. 00:06:50.87\00:06:53.17 So my father said, God talks to you through the word. 00:06:53.94\00:06:56.11 I said, But I don't know how to read. 00:06:56.41\00:06:57.55 You're four years old. 00:06:57.91\00:06:58.95 And I said, Don't mind that. 00:06:59.48\00:07:01.35 Give me the Bible. 00:07:01.35\00:07:01.38 And my father said, Why? 00:07:02.28\00:07:03.25 I said, Just give it to me. 00:07:03.49\00:07:04.45 And my father shook his head. 00:07:05.25\00:07:06.32 He gets the Bible. 00:07:06.32\00:07:06.35 I take the Bible, open it somewhere, put my finger and 00:07:07.72\00:07:12.09 say, Would you read for me? 00:07:12.09\00:07:13.16 It was Jeremiah 1 from the verse that he says, Don't say I 00:07:13.93\00:07:17.83 am a youth. 00:07:17.83\00:07:18.53 In different transit, Don't say I am a child because I will 00:07:19.03\00:07:21.24 send you and you will speak for me. 00:07:21.24\00:07:22.57 Don't be afraid of them. 00:07:22.67\00:07:23.97 And I will send you to nations and so on and so forth. 00:07:24.84\00:07:27.28 So I closed the Bible. 00:07:27.51\00:07:28.31 I said, God wants me to speak for him. 00:07:28.41\00:07:30.01 So that's what I'm going to do. 00:07:30.01\00:07:30.05 And so that got in my mind for the rest of my life. 00:07:31.88\00:07:36.25 Four years of age. 00:07:36.42\00:07:37.52 Four. 00:07:38.12\00:07:38.32 Wow. 00:07:38.39\00:07:38.65 Yeah. 00:07:38.69\00:07:39.09 That's amazing. 00:07:39.09\00:07:39.59 Praise God. 00:07:39.85\00:07:40.29 What an amazing story. 00:07:40.52\00:07:41.52 I know tonight, I love stories, Jill. 00:07:42.26\00:07:43.69 I know we're going to hear a lot of stories this evening. 00:07:43.79\00:07:45.86 And really the topic, like we mentioned earlier, is on 00:07:45.93\00:07:48.86 prayer. 00:07:48.86\00:07:51.93 Like, you know, when does a prayer or when do prayers seem 00:07:51.97\00:07:54.70 to not be answered? 00:07:54.70\00:07:55.97 How do we deal with those kind of topics and questions? 00:07:56.00\00:07:58.71 So we'll be addressing that this evening as well. 00:07:58.74\00:08:01.54 Plus some other topics too. 00:08:01.58\00:08:02.64 All pertaining to prayer. 00:08:02.71\00:08:03.78 Absolutely. 00:08:04.08\00:08:07.98 in prayer. 00:08:07.98\00:08:08.55 So let's start with that. 00:08:08.62\00:08:09.52 What is prayer? 00:08:09.92\00:08:10.62 And more importantly, how do we pray? 00:08:10.75\00:08:13.56 Are there steps? 00:08:14.26\00:08:15.16 Is there a formula? 00:08:15.42\00:08:16.46 How do we pray? 00:08:16.86\00:08:17.69 So before I talk about that, nobody should be discouraged 00:08:18.63\00:08:23.06 because they don't know the science and the theology of 00:08:23.06\00:08:26.03 prayer. 00:08:26.03\00:08:26.23 God takes our prayers as they are. 00:08:26.87\00:08:29.77 As the spirit prophecy says, prayer is the opening of the 00:08:30.24\00:08:33.58 heart to God as to a friend. 00:08:33.58\00:08:35.58 It's an open, honest, humble conversation, dialogue. 00:08:35.91\00:08:41.68 And so regardless, if people know or don't know how to pray, 00:08:42.85\00:08:46.42 when they open their heart and in honesty, in humility, they 00:08:46.69\00:08:50.56 see God. 00:08:50.56\00:08:51.36 God loves that. 00:08:52.03\00:08:52.93 He takes that. 00:08:52.96\00:08:53.86 And so some people should wait to learn how to pray properly. 00:08:54.20\00:08:59.47 Just pray. 00:09:00.04\00:09:01.14 Amen. 00:09:01.50\00:09:01.87 You know. 00:09:02.00\00:09:05.51 not learn. 00:09:05.51\00:09:06.24 And so I just wanted to mention the first one. 00:09:07.18\00:09:09.78 That's good. 00:09:09.78\00:09:12.81 Before we jump in the water, we will never swim. 00:09:12.91\00:09:14.82 The same with prayer. 00:09:14.95\00:09:15.78 But then talking about learning and growing, we may assume that 00:09:16.62\00:09:23.86 we know how to pray. 00:09:23.86\00:09:25.03 But remember the disciples, Ellen White says that they were 00:09:25.03\00:09:29.63 watching Jesus pray. 00:09:29.63\00:09:30.77 And they realized that He didn't pray like them. 00:09:31.07\00:09:33.90 He prayed like He had a conversation with the Father. 00:09:34.20\00:09:36.60 And they noticed that He has power when He prays, things 00:09:37.64\00:09:41.21 happen. 00:09:41.21\00:09:41.98 So they told Him, teach us how to pray, what they meant. 00:09:42.41\00:09:44.48 We like to pray the way You pray. 00:09:44.75\00:09:46.25 Teach us how to pray like You. 00:09:46.68\00:09:48.28 And the same in Romans chapter 8, Paul says that the Holy 00:09:49.12\00:09:53.62 Spirit has to intercede for us because we don't even know how 00:09:53.62\00:09:55.99 to pray. 00:09:55.99\00:09:59.56 And then you go to Ephesians chapter 6 and He says that pray 00:10:00.33\00:10:04.23 all the time, all types of prayer for all the saints. 00:10:04.23\00:10:06.97 And then He says, pray in the Spirit. 00:10:07.24\00:10:10.07 What's that? 00:10:10.67\00:10:11.27 Yeah, what does that mean? 00:10:11.27\00:10:12.11 What's that? 00:10:12.34\00:10:13.01 How do you pray in the Spirit? 00:10:13.01\00:10:13.04 But then Jesus says, whatever You ask in My name, and that's 00:10:15.01\00:10:20.65 a big word, whatever. 00:10:20.65\00:10:21.85 And Jesus doesn't lie. 00:10:22.48\00:10:23.82 God doesn't lie. 00:10:23.82\00:10:25.69 His Word, it's absolutely secure. 00:10:26.19\00:10:29.26 When God says something, you can rejoice. 00:10:29.36\00:10:30.83 It's done. 00:10:31.09\00:10:31.46 Whatever You ask in My name, in different Bibles, according to 00:10:32.83\00:10:36.70 His will, I will do. 00:10:36.70\00:10:39.73 Well, we have asked so many things and they just don't 00:10:40.64\00:10:42.74 happen. 00:10:42.74\00:10:43.10 What does it mean to pray in the Spirit? 00:10:44.51\00:10:46.14 You look in the Spirit of Prophecy and you look to 00:10:47.51\00:10:49.54 different examples like Peter, he says in the Bible, he was in 00:10:49.54\00:10:54.18 the Spirit. 00:10:54.18\00:10:54.72 How are you in the Spirit? 00:10:55.22\00:10:59.45 God. 00:10:59.45\00:11:00.09 What does it mean to walk with God? 00:11:00.62\00:11:02.69 And she says, they are continually aware of His 00:11:03.89\00:11:07.40 presence in continual connection. 00:11:07.40\00:11:12.00 In a different way, she says, those who are continually 00:11:13.47\00:11:16.34 connected, vitally continually connected, they have around 00:11:16.34\00:11:20.18 them an atmosphere of Heaven to be in God's presence 00:11:20.18\00:11:26.18 continually on this Earth, to start living on Earth as you 00:11:26.18\00:11:29.82 live in Heaven, continually connected. 00:11:29.82\00:11:32.35 So to pray in the Spirit, to be aware of God's presence, 00:11:32.69\00:11:35.59 continually connected, in continual dependence. 00:11:35.92\00:11:38.99 And she says, Jesus didn't speak His own, Jesus says that, 00:11:39.39\00:11:42.66 He says, I don't speak My own words, I speak the words of the 00:11:42.66\00:11:44.77 Father. 00:11:44.77\00:11:48.54 do My works, I do the works that the Father gives me. 00:11:48.54\00:11:51.27 Basically, He was continually connected depending on the 00:11:51.41\00:11:55.78 Father. 00:11:55.78\00:11:56.24 And that's why Jesus says that the Holy Spirit would lead us 00:11:57.05\00:11:59.21 in all things, to be continually connected, 00:11:59.21\00:12:03.02 depending on the Holy Spirit. 00:12:03.02\00:12:04.19 Well, we go to God in prayer, and we ask this and that, what 00:12:04.42\00:12:09.09 we assume that is something good. 00:12:09.09\00:12:11.63 And our minds and our plans are far... 00:12:11.89\00:12:14.86 Inferior. 00:12:15.66\00:12:16.40 ...from God's plans as Heaven and Earth. 00:12:16.60\00:12:18.77 If we knew the end from the beginning, if we would 00:12:19.30\00:12:21.44 understand the purpose that God has, the universal, the eternal 00:12:21.44\00:12:25.07 purpose, we would choose the same path, including trials and 00:12:25.07\00:12:29.51 challenges. 00:12:29.51\00:12:29.98 And so, if we were in the Spirit, led by the Spirit, 00:12:31.01\00:12:35.05 inspired by the Spirit, we would not just ask anything we 00:12:35.42\00:12:38.42 assume that we should ask. 00:12:38.42\00:12:39.55 We would ask only what the Spirit would inspire us to ask. 00:12:40.06\00:12:42.89 And those prayers, God would always answer. 00:12:43.39\00:12:46.29 Amen. 00:12:46.29\00:12:47.00 And so that's the reason, he says, Peter said to the man, 00:12:47.66\00:12:51.27 money I don't have, but what I have, I give it to you, in 00:12:52.00\00:12:55.10 Jesus' name. 00:12:55.10\00:12:55.50 Peter didn't say that from himself. 00:12:56.04\00:12:57.71 He was impressed by the Spirit to do that. 00:12:58.11\00:13:00.41 Elijah didn't get an idea. 00:13:00.74\00:13:02.24 Well, you know what? 00:13:02.48\00:13:03.31 Three years and a half they will be... 00:13:03.71\00:13:05.05 He was inspired by the Spirit. 00:13:05.05\00:13:06.88 He didn't do it just because he thought so. 00:13:07.08\00:13:09.38 Abraham, he didn't just, let's sacrifice my son. 00:13:11.55\00:13:14.12 God... 00:13:15.29\00:13:18.89 But going back now, you asked me about how to pray. 00:13:19.89\00:13:23.70 We should always be dependent on the leading of the Spirit. 00:13:24.77\00:13:27.94 We don't know how to pray. 00:13:28.10\00:13:29.10 We should ask God what to pray before we pray. 00:13:29.14\00:13:31.07 Lord, what do you want me to pray for? 00:13:31.31\00:13:33.01 And seek more to know God and to know His plan and His will 00:13:34.11\00:13:40.15 than seeking His help and His blessings. 00:13:40.15\00:13:43.28 So I just asked this question because again, many people are 00:13:44.35\00:13:47.26 watching 3ABN tonight. 00:13:47.26\00:13:48.52 Many different... 00:13:48.99\00:13:51.83 journey in life. 00:13:51.83\00:13:52.79 So someone right now is saying, you know, I just found this 00:13:53.19\00:13:55.50 channel. 00:13:55.50\00:13:55.86 I don't even really know God. 00:13:56.20\00:13:57.43 So because I don't really know God, I really shouldn't pray to 00:13:57.77\00:14:00.20 Him yet? 00:14:00.20\00:14:00.77 Or can I talk to Him even if I don't really know who He is? 00:14:01.44\00:14:03.64 It's just like, I don't know, I know you're up there or should 00:14:03.64\00:14:03.67 I wait till a certain point in my life? 00:14:06.34\00:14:07.78 The good news is that God understands that we are only 00:14:07.91\00:14:10.95 flesh. 00:14:10.95\00:14:11.35 God understands our circumstances. 00:14:12.05\00:14:13.75 He loves us more than we love our children, more than we will 00:14:14.35\00:14:17.75 ever, even in eternity, understand. 00:14:17.75\00:14:20.16 So God, if we go in humility and with honesty and you know, 00:14:20.59\00:14:25.56 with humbleness, with openness, if we go to Him and talk to Him 00:14:25.69\00:14:29.06 openly, He will take us from whatever we are. 00:14:29.06\00:14:31.37 He's gonna love to hear our prayers and He's gonna teach us 00:14:31.43\00:14:36.57 and form us and grow us. 00:14:36.57\00:14:38.34 It's a growing process So let me give you an example of 00:14:38.64\00:14:43.51 unanswered prayers. 00:14:43.51\00:14:44.91 Unanswered. 00:14:45.95\00:14:46.41 Unanswered prayers. 00:14:46.75\00:14:47.55 When we pray the wrong thing and we say, why doesn't God 00:14:48.05\00:14:51.15 answer? 00:14:51.15\00:14:51.69 And I have many of them, because people say, oh, you get 00:14:52.69\00:14:55.99 so many answers. 00:14:55.99\00:14:56.86 No, I get so many non-answers, if I can say that. 00:14:57.06\00:15:00.10 But anyway, for instance, many years ago we were in Kentucky 00:15:00.36\00:15:04.03 and our older son, his wife and our little granddaughter they 00:15:06.10\00:15:13.84 were in Wisconsin. 00:15:13.84\00:15:14.61 And our daughter-in-law was taking nuclear physics but on 00:15:15.71\00:15:21.98 the medical field, like, I don't know how you call it, 00:15:21.98\00:15:25.29 that type of medical field that you deal with the machines that 00:15:25.32\00:15:29.89 are for radiation, for cancer, for whatever. 00:15:29.89\00:15:31.93 Like nuclear medicine? 00:15:32.46\00:15:33.73 Something like that. 00:15:34.03\00:15:34.93 I don't know. 00:15:34.93\00:15:34.93 I could be wrong. 00:15:36.10\00:15:42.17 going for her masters. 00:15:42.17\00:15:43.20 So we called her. 00:15:43.77\00:15:44.87 We said, where are you going? 00:15:45.07\00:15:46.21 We would like you to move here because we want the kids and 00:15:46.31\00:15:48.54 the grandkids next to us. 00:15:48.54\00:15:50.38 And she said, well, there are only about six, seven schools 00:15:51.41\00:15:53.62 in the nation. 00:15:54.35\00:15:55.18 And she said, indeed, one of them is in Lexington, Kentucky, 00:15:55.68\00:15:59.35 next to you. 00:15:59.45\00:16:00.39 But she says, didn't you say that we should pray for God's 00:16:01.16\00:16:05.06 plan? 00:16:05.06\00:16:05.43 And I was like, but this time... 00:16:06.66\00:16:09.10 We want you here. 00:16:10.33\00:16:11.20 This time you know what God's plan is. 00:16:11.20\00:16:12.33 You just move here because that's the best thing to do. 00:16:12.33\00:16:15.30 And she says, well, how do you reconcile your sermons with 00:16:15.77\00:16:18.21 what you tell me to do? 00:16:18.21\00:16:19.07 I said, come on, stop talking about my sermons. 00:16:19.54\00:16:22.54 It's good for the family to be together. 00:16:23.35\00:16:25.41 And she says, we love that, but we are going to pray about it. 00:16:26.48\00:16:29.35 Well, I got busy praying that Lord, would you please move 00:16:29.75\00:16:33.52 them here without saying, Lord, what is your plan? 00:16:33.52\00:16:38.83 Because you know things that I don't know. 00:16:39.33\00:16:41.13 You know the big picture. 00:16:41.66\00:16:42.43 You know the future. 00:16:42.50\00:16:43.10 You know what is best. 00:16:43.20\00:16:43.93 You know, you love us. 00:16:44.33\00:16:45.40 God will never keep anything from us that is for our 00:16:46.00\00:16:48.27 benefit. 00:16:48.27\00:16:51.91 for our salvation. 00:16:51.91\00:16:52.81 And so, but I did, I said, Lord, please, help them, make 00:16:53.68\00:16:57.51 them, move here. 00:16:57.51\00:16:58.48 Well, they prayed for a whole week and they fasted, if I 00:16:59.51\00:17:04.65 remember right, one or two days, whatever. 00:17:04.65\00:17:06.62 And after the week was over, Monday morning or noon or 00:17:07.66\00:17:13.70 something, they go and pick up the mail and though she did not 00:17:13.70\00:17:18.23 apply for that location, she applied for Kentucky. 00:17:18.23\00:17:22.20 She got rejected, though she had straight A's. 00:17:22.97\00:17:25.51 They said, we received applications up to February and 00:17:25.71\00:17:30.08 right now is July. 00:17:30.08\00:17:31.61 We would love to have you, but it's too late. 00:17:32.28\00:17:34.62 You need to apply next year before February. 00:17:34.62\00:17:37.19 I said, no problem, you stay one year at home. 00:17:37.82\00:17:39.92 She says, no, we pray about it. 00:17:40.09\00:17:42.32 You said that all things work together. 00:17:42.49\00:17:46.13 I said, well, not all, you know, almost all. 00:17:46.93\00:17:49.63 She said, no, no, no, no, I heard your sermon. 00:17:49.80\00:17:51.77 And so, Monday noon they go pick up the mail. 00:17:52.77\00:17:55.67 I mean, it's an invitation from University of Pennsylvania that 00:17:55.94\00:17:58.54 is an Ivy League school, one of the eight. 00:17:58.54\00:18:00.41 Extremely high school, prestigious, you know, and she 00:18:01.48\00:18:04.88 gets invited by that school to be part of their nuclear 00:18:04.88\00:18:08.25 physics program. 00:18:08.25\00:18:09.08 And so, she calls us, she says, we got an answer to prayer, 00:18:10.25\00:18:15.22 though we never applied there, you know. 00:18:15.32\00:18:16.66 And I said, no, no, no, no, no, please don't do it. 00:18:17.29\00:18:19.66 You were eight hours away from us. 00:18:19.79\00:18:21.26 Now you are going to be 12 hours away. 00:18:21.66\00:18:23.26 Please don't do it. 00:18:23.63\00:18:24.57 She says, no, I got to follow God's plan. 00:18:24.60\00:18:26.74 I was a little frustrated with God. 00:18:27.54\00:18:29.17 They move farther away. 00:18:29.30\00:18:30.61 Our grandbaby is going to be farther away. 00:18:30.77\00:18:32.74 We can hardly see them now. 00:18:33.21\00:18:34.41 We are not going to see them maybe twice a year. 00:18:34.44\00:18:36.58 And my wife says, honey, shouldn't we trust God's love 00:18:37.11\00:18:40.88 and wisdom and plan? 00:18:40.88\00:18:41.88 I said, yes, yes, we should, but they move too far. 00:18:43.15\00:18:46.09 Well, two months later, I got a call from the general 00:18:47.16\00:18:50.23 conference. 00:18:50.23\00:18:50.83 within a few months, we moved to Maryland, literally, 00:18:52.53\00:18:55.83 physically, one hour and 50 minutes, let's say, two hours 00:18:56.20\00:18:58.67 from them. 00:18:58.67\00:18:59.27 What if God would have answered my foolish prayer? 00:18:59.70\00:19:02.60 And they would have moved to Kentucky and then you moved to 00:19:02.90\00:19:05.34 Maryland. 00:19:05.34\00:19:05.77 But praise the Lord for not answering my prayer the way you 00:19:07.51\00:19:12.08 wanted it. 00:19:12.08\00:19:15.92 And I believe God was shaking His head and saying, you don't 00:19:16.18\00:19:19.82 know what you ask. 00:19:19.82\00:19:20.59 Would you trust me? 00:19:20.76\00:19:22.12 Would you just trust me? 00:19:22.36\00:19:24.36 And we experience those things in life, but we have a tendency 00:19:24.76\00:19:28.23 to forget and next thing happens, we want our way 00:19:28.23\00:19:31.57 instead of saying, Lord, I trust you more than I trust 00:19:31.57\00:19:34.04 myself. 00:19:34.04\00:19:39.21 it again here. 00:19:39.21\00:19:40.14 So then you've got a parent that's watching their child in 00:19:40.44\00:19:43.85 the hospital dying of cancer, praying for them, and it's not 00:19:43.85\00:19:49.15 being answered the way the parents want it to be answered 00:19:49.15\00:19:52.82 and the child passes away. 00:19:52.82\00:19:54.19 How do you answer those questions? 00:19:54.42\00:19:56.22 Because the same parents pray, let's say, I don't know, a year 00:19:56.29\00:20:00.76 or two before to find the car keys and they found the car 00:20:00.76\00:20:03.70 keys sitting in the garden. 00:20:03.70\00:20:04.67 That's not that important compared to a child dying of 00:20:06.13\00:20:08.60 cancer and the child dies. 00:20:08.60\00:20:10.24 So I'm sure you've asked that over and over again. 00:20:10.37\00:20:12.81 You're a man of prayer, talked about prayer for years. 00:20:12.87\00:20:15.01 How do you answer that? 00:20:15.21\00:20:16.34 I know some of it, we won't know the answer to eternity, 00:20:16.41\00:20:18.18 but how do you talk to those parents? 00:20:18.18\00:20:18.21 I would love to be able to answer. 00:20:20.45\00:20:21.75 I don't know the answer also, but I do. 00:20:21.88\00:20:24.65 There is no comfort except in Jesus. 00:20:25.49\00:20:28.19 Very true. 00:20:29.72\00:20:30.43 We lost a girl, I lost my father. 00:20:30.96\00:20:34.30 I know a little of that pain. 00:20:35.20\00:20:37.07 But think about this, Jesus died on the cross and God 00:20:38.83\00:20:42.80 didn't intervene to rescue him. 00:20:42.80\00:20:45.27 John the Baptist, and Jesus was right there and didn't 00:20:46.21\00:20:51.31 intervene and Paul and Peter and so many martyrs. 00:20:51.31\00:20:54.52 We don't understand probably until we go to heaven, but we 00:20:55.58\00:21:00.56 do know this. 00:21:00.56\00:21:01.42 Number one is that God promised that He will be with us 00:21:02.12\00:21:06.13 whatever we go through. 00:21:06.13\00:21:07.23 He will support us, sustain us. 00:21:07.40\00:21:09.70 Number two, we do know that He will never allow anything 00:21:10.40\00:21:14.47 unless He will do something good even out of a tragedy. 00:21:14.47\00:21:19.04 And I know that's hard to hear. 00:21:19.27\00:21:20.91 That it is. 00:21:20.98\00:21:21.71 But for instance, my father died. 00:21:22.21\00:21:25.21 Were you young when he died? 00:21:26.48\00:21:27.95 I was about 22 maybe, more or less. 00:21:28.02\00:21:30.62 We believe, I have no proof, we believe he was killed by the 00:21:31.72\00:21:34.49 police. 00:21:34.49\00:21:34.82 They told him again and again to stop bringing Bibles, to 00:21:36.16\00:21:39.16 stop building churches. 00:21:39.16\00:21:39.96 He was smuggling Bibles from former Yugoslavia to Romania 00:21:40.36\00:21:42.96 for many years again and again and again. 00:21:42.96\00:21:44.63 Smuggling them in. 00:21:44.67\00:21:47.44 And they would come and check our house and many miracles 00:21:47.70\00:21:50.31 happened and they never caught him, but they knew from 00:21:50.31\00:21:53.17 traitors in the church. 00:21:53.17\00:21:54.24 And they would call him to the police station. 00:21:54.78\00:21:56.24 If you do it again we will terminate you. 00:21:56.41\00:21:58.78 And one time they told him you don't get it. 00:21:59.21\00:22:02.15 And so they put him in a room and they left. 00:22:02.45\00:22:05.02 And in the morning they came and they said you can go home. 00:22:05.35\00:22:08.56 And I learned now from my daughter-in-law that you can 00:22:10.56\00:22:14.40 have radiation specifically in a spot, only that spot to the 00:22:14.40\00:22:18.07 level that you want. 00:22:18.07\00:22:19.20 And so what we know is that he started to lose hair, he 00:22:19.20\00:22:23.97 started to bleed. 00:22:23.97\00:22:24.91 We took him to the doctor and the doctor said you have been 00:22:26.27\00:22:29.11 irradiated. 00:22:29.11\00:22:30.08 That night in that place? 00:22:31.41\00:22:32.71 We think so. 00:22:32.81\00:22:33.75 You have been irradiated and your body stopped functioning, 00:22:34.05\00:22:36.38 your spine stopped functioning, everything. 00:22:36.62\00:22:38.15 You will not make it. 00:22:38.55\00:22:39.55 And so I prayed before and I've seen answers, amazing, 00:22:40.62\00:22:47.23 unbelievable answers to prayer. 00:22:47.23\00:22:48.60 Well I prayed then, Lord save my dad. 00:22:48.86\00:22:50.63 Nothing happened. 00:22:51.43\00:22:52.13 And I prayed again and again and again and I fasted and I 00:22:52.63\00:22:55.27 never fast, you know I cannot. 00:22:55.27\00:22:56.40 But again and again and nothing happened. 00:22:56.94\00:23:00.51 And I was praying next to my father's bed and he put his 00:23:01.08\00:23:05.61 hand on mine and I said enough. 00:23:05.61\00:23:07.68 Your dad tells you enough. 00:23:08.65\00:23:09.98 I said what do you mean? 00:23:10.15\00:23:11.05 He says don't you think we should let God be God? 00:23:11.32\00:23:14.26 And my father said I know him and he said he recited the 00:23:15.69\00:23:20.46 Bible verses from Job. 00:23:20.46\00:23:21.46 He said I know my Redeemer. 00:23:21.73\00:23:23.30 I know him personally and even if I die I know that I will see 00:23:24.27\00:23:28.47 him. 00:23:28.47\00:23:29.14 He looked at my mom and said I want you to write that on my 00:23:29.70\00:23:31.91 stone. 00:23:31.91\00:23:35.51 And so he looked at me and he said if God allows it I am okay 00:23:36.31\00:23:40.85 with it. 00:23:40.85\00:23:41.48 For me it's easy. 00:23:41.65\00:23:42.75 It's going to take me one second to the resurrection day 00:23:42.85\00:23:44.75 and I will see Jesus. 00:23:44.75\00:23:45.95 For you it's difficult. 00:23:46.22\00:23:47.36 I want you to keep your eyes on Jesus and never be shaken. 00:23:47.36\00:23:50.36 And so I don't know why God allowed it but I do know 00:23:51.23\00:23:55.90 something. 00:23:55.90\00:23:56.63 All his life he served God though he was not a pastor but 00:23:57.10\00:24:00.60 his funeral there were people that never, never wanted to 00:24:00.60\00:24:03.74 including some of our relatives to come to church. 00:24:03.74\00:24:06.14 After his funeral they came to church. 00:24:06.14\00:24:07.84 So I was somehow thinking Jesus would have died even if it was 00:24:08.31\00:24:13.21 only one. 00:24:13.21\00:24:13.92 You know if my father's death was worth at least one soul 00:24:14.62\00:24:18.45 though I believe it was more. 00:24:18.45\00:24:19.62 My father would always tell me hey I would be glad to give my 00:24:21.72\00:24:24.23 life to save a soul. 00:24:24.23\00:24:25.19 My saver did that. 00:24:25.53\00:24:26.66 So we don't know why God allows it but we do believe that God 00:24:27.50\00:24:32.90 would never allow any pain unless he has a... 00:24:32.90\00:24:36.84 because God is still in control he doesn't send it but he 00:24:36.84\00:24:39.67 allows it you know. 00:24:39.67\00:24:40.48 So the principle is can I trust my God even in the midst of 00:24:40.88\00:24:45.61 pain? 00:24:45.61\00:24:46.01 Is that right? 00:24:46.01\00:24:47.02 Can I surrender and trust even if the prayer isn't answered 00:24:47.25\00:24:50.25 the way I wanted or I expected? 00:24:50.25\00:24:52.05 I can trust. 00:24:52.52\00:24:53.15 Think about Job. 00:24:53.19\00:24:54.12 There is no better example he lost all his children he lost 00:24:54.79\00:24:58.16 his possessions he lost everything including his health 00:24:58.16\00:25:01.06 and his wife says curse God and die. 00:25:01.63\00:25:04.03 That's not a good advice but anyway and he says hey we got 00:25:04.43\00:25:08.97 so many good things should we not accept these things? 00:25:08.97\00:25:11.41 And he says no I will never do that I will not. 00:25:11.71\00:25:14.31 He trusted God and loved God in spite of those things and I 00:25:14.31\00:25:19.45 believe that honored God in front of the whole universe. 00:25:19.45\00:25:21.85 Think about Joseph sold by his brothers Joseph didn't read you 00:25:22.25\00:25:27.62 know the Bible Genesis to know oh I know the story I can wait 00:25:27.62\00:25:32.09 a few years he was innocent put in prison he never knew if he 00:25:32.09\00:25:36.83 would get out of prison nevertheless the Bible says 00:25:36.83\00:25:39.53 that they could see the spirit of God in him his peace, his 00:25:39.53\00:25:43.84 faith his joy fully trusting God though he did not 00:25:43.84\00:25:48.88 understand what was going on. 00:25:48.88\00:25:51.41 Job says though he slay me yet will I trust in him you know 00:25:52.05\00:25:55.92 that's powerful it's powerful so how do we reach other 00:25:55.92\00:26:00.19 people? 00:26:00.19\00:26:00.79 How do we share what we've experienced with Jesus with 00:26:01.36\00:26:04.43 other people? 00:26:04.43\00:26:07.96 so when we moved here many years ago we were in Southern 00:26:07.96\00:26:12.13 Adventist University in school in Collegedale and the first 00:26:12.13\00:26:18.21 part was pretty tough pretty tough you come from a new 00:26:18.21\00:26:21.14 country you know anyway I remember we didn't have a car 00:26:21.14\00:26:25.88 we didn't have furniture we didn't have money we didn't 00:26:25.88\00:26:28.58 have food we would sleep on the floor anyway I got very sick I 00:26:28.58\00:26:36.89 had an allergy I was from head to toes all spots that were 00:26:36.89\00:26:40.20 burning and itching I went to the doctor's They gave me a 00:26:40.20\00:26:43.43 bunch of prednisone and they said nothing we can do, it's 00:26:43.43\00:26:46.23 stress. 00:26:46.23\00:26:46.67 Anyway, and I remember praying and praying and praying and 00:26:48.70\00:26:52.47 praying, no answer. 00:26:52.47\00:26:54.18 And we got letters that if you don't pay the apartment, you'll 00:26:54.94\00:26:57.78 be addicted. 00:26:57.78\00:27:00.75 And it was like everything was really bad. 00:27:01.08\00:27:04.02 And I remember praying day and night, no answer. 00:27:04.49\00:27:07.86 And I was wondering what do we eat tonight? 00:27:08.16\00:27:10.53 And my wife, we were not lazy, we have never been lazy. 00:27:11.13\00:27:13.90 For me, I don't know how to stand still. 00:27:13.90\00:27:16.10 For me, if I want to relax, if I don't have anything to do, I 00:27:16.83\00:27:19.07 go in the garden and do something. 00:27:19.07\00:27:20.30 I cannot stand still, you know. 00:27:20.40\00:27:22.74 But anyway, so I love doing, you know. 00:27:22.94\00:27:27.01 And so I remember my wife had three jobs cleaning homes. 00:27:28.04\00:27:33.38 And I took several classes. 00:27:33.88\00:27:37.75 I mean, I took three years in one. 00:27:37.82\00:27:39.42 Something like that, one year in the summer. 00:27:39.42\00:27:41.22 Plus two jobs, and still we could not make it. 00:27:41.96\00:27:45.26 Because tuition was expensive, books were expensive, insurance 00:27:45.36\00:27:48.30 was expensive. 00:27:48.30\00:27:48.90 Yeah, housing, all of it. 00:27:48.93\00:27:50.13 Everything, food, everything. 00:27:50.80\00:27:52.57 So bills, you know, electricity, you name it. 00:27:53.74\00:27:56.67 And so praying and praying and no answer. 00:27:57.07\00:27:59.61 Why? 00:28:00.64\00:28:01.14 Why don't you answer? 00:28:01.21\00:28:02.08 You brought me here to destroy me, you know. 00:28:02.61\00:28:04.98 And I was struggling. 00:28:04.98\00:28:07.95 Well, I was in the garden of prayer. 00:28:10.09\00:28:14.79 That was the name in front of the seminary against a big 00:28:15.32\00:28:19.39 trunk with my head crying. 00:28:19.39\00:28:22.26 And I remember surrendering, total surrender. 00:28:22.50\00:28:25.17 I said, Lord, because I am a man of action, I always, my 00:28:25.27\00:28:30.31 wife says, man, regardless situation, you always have a 00:28:30.31\00:28:32.51 few ideas. 00:28:32.51\00:28:32.91 I always have an idea. 00:28:33.07\00:28:34.31 I had no more ideas. 00:28:34.31\00:28:35.91 I was just empty. 00:28:36.11\00:28:37.08 And I said, I don't know what to do. 00:28:37.85\00:28:39.55 I'm just, if I live, I live. 00:28:39.91\00:28:41.55 If I die, I die. 00:28:41.58\00:28:42.55 I don't know what to do. 00:28:42.58\00:28:43.79 So I was crying and saying, Lord, I just, whatever you 00:28:44.22\00:28:47.32 want, I just surrender. 00:28:47.32\00:28:48.29 I don't know. 00:28:48.49\00:28:48.99 I have no solutions. 00:28:48.99\00:28:49.76 I am desperate, you know. 00:28:50.13\00:28:51.89 And somebody hit me on the back. 00:28:52.43\00:28:54.20 I looked and it was Dr. Blanco, Jack Blanco. 00:28:55.63\00:28:57.90 He was the dean in that time. 00:28:58.20\00:28:59.63 Very good, godly man. 00:28:59.93\00:29:01.24 He says, young man, why are you crying? 00:29:01.84\00:29:04.21 I got my back straight. 00:29:04.74\00:29:05.97 I said, I never cry. 00:29:06.21\00:29:08.28 He said, yes, you do. 00:29:09.18\00:29:10.15 I said, no, just allergies. 00:29:10.41\00:29:12.11 Men don't cry. 00:29:12.35\00:29:13.21 He said, you are too proud. 00:29:14.18\00:29:15.28 You are crying and praying. 00:29:15.52\00:29:16.65 I heard you. 00:29:16.82\00:29:17.45 You're sobbing. 00:29:17.59\00:29:18.65 And he says, well, whatever you are crying and praying for, God 00:29:20.26\00:29:24.33 will answer, but he probably is helping you to grow a little. 00:29:24.33\00:29:28.43 And I said in my mind, yeah, yeah, yeah, easy for you. 00:29:29.76\00:29:32.20 You're not in my circumstances. 00:29:32.77\00:29:34.24 You are not in my shoes. 00:29:34.37\00:29:35.47 Yeah, that's right. 00:29:35.70\00:29:40.81 As you look back, you know, and Dr. Blanco was part of it, 00:29:41.01\00:29:44.08 though I never told him the situation or anything like 00:29:44.08\00:29:44.11 that. 00:29:46.51\00:29:49.55 tell you something different. 00:29:49.55\00:29:50.79 When you're in Romania and we had a business, a little sewing 00:29:51.82\00:29:54.42 factory and we had money and influence and connections. 00:29:54.42\00:29:57.39 And people say that. 00:29:57.39\00:30:01.23 I was one of the most stubborn, proud, ambitious, not flexible 00:30:03.50\00:30:08.20 person. 00:30:08.20\00:30:09.10 My way or no way, there was no discussion. 00:30:09.17\00:30:12.67 My wife would tell me many times, man, you need to have a 00:30:13.41\00:30:15.44 little more mercy and patience with people. 00:30:15.44\00:30:17.31 And after that situation in college, they. 00:30:18.58\00:30:22.45 People that knew me before would meet me and say, man, you 00:30:23.42\00:30:25.82 are you. 00:30:25.82\00:30:29.92 You are quiet. 00:30:30.69\00:30:31.49 You are patient. 00:30:31.59\00:30:32.39 You are kind. 00:30:32.56\00:30:33.36 You know how to understand. 00:30:33.60\00:30:34.73 So looking back, I believe that God. 00:30:35.26\00:30:38.60 Could not use somebody that is that has no compassion, no 00:30:40.17\00:30:44.41 patience, no flexibility, no humility. 00:30:44.41\00:30:47.94 And God allowed it for my benefit. 00:30:48.58\00:30:51.51 So sometimes, you know that we know those trials purify gold. 00:30:52.18\00:30:56.75 I'm not saying that I'm gold or purified, but I'm saying those 00:30:56.95\00:31:00.82 are necessary things sometimes. 00:31:00.82\00:31:02.66 It was interesting you said about the total surrender. 00:31:03.53\00:31:06.23 You always had ideas when there was a situation or a challenge. 00:31:06.76\00:31:09.80 Why have this? 00:31:09.83\00:31:10.47 We can do this. 00:31:10.47\00:31:11.00 Here's another option. 00:31:11.03\00:31:11.93 You said you had no more ideas, right? 00:31:12.03\00:31:14.74 And it was a total surrender moment for you. 00:31:14.87\00:31:17.31 And that's where God almost took you to that point in order 00:31:17.31\00:31:19.81 to use you in an even more powerful way for the rest of 00:31:19.81\00:31:22.68 your life. 00:31:22.68\00:31:25.51 time. 00:31:25.51\00:31:25.65 Great point. 00:31:25.91\00:31:32.52 of them. 00:31:32.52\00:31:33.09 And it seems to me that for us to be used, we need to learn 00:31:33.99\00:31:37.96 that type of humility and surrender and total dependence 00:31:37.96\00:31:42.63 on God, not on our wisdom. 00:31:42.63\00:31:44.23 And it seems to me that what I've seen again and again, that 00:31:45.13\00:31:48.10 has to be a lifelong daily process. 00:31:48.10\00:31:51.07 It's not enough one time, but we need to daily fully 00:31:51.41\00:31:53.94 surrender because if we trust our, we talk about God, but we 00:31:53.94\00:31:57.85 make plans, we act. 00:31:57.85\00:31:58.81 If we trust our plans, God can never use us. 00:31:59.08\00:32:01.18 Yeah, that's a good point. 00:32:01.38\00:32:02.35 Paul talks about I die daily. 00:32:02.72\00:32:04.39 You know, that whole concept there. 00:32:04.45\00:32:05.85 So let's talk about surrender a moment. 00:32:06.09\00:32:07.89 I know I asked about reaching others, but we can get there in 00:32:08.02\00:32:10.39 a moment, but let's talk about surrender. 00:32:10.39\00:32:12.36 Maybe someone says, but I don't understand. 00:32:12.53\00:32:14.10 Is it as simple as me saying, I don't want my way, but your 00:32:14.20\00:32:17.23 way, God, or is there any practical steps to how we 00:32:17.23\00:32:21.90 surrender and can I surrender and me actually not surrender? 00:32:21.90\00:32:25.87 You know, I think I'm surrendering, but I'm really 00:32:26.07\00:32:29.48 holding pieces of my heart back. 00:32:29.48\00:32:31.61 There is this heresy among Christians that I have accepted 00:32:31.68\00:32:36.22 Jesus, I have surrendered. 00:32:36.22\00:32:37.69 My brother, Jesus says, you'll know them by their fruits. 00:32:38.65\00:32:41.42 That's the thermometer of spiritual temperature. 00:32:42.56\00:32:45.33 Jesus says, if you are in me and I in you, or if you abide 00:32:45.83\00:32:50.60 or if you remain, depending on the translation, you will 00:32:50.60\00:32:54.10 produce. 00:32:54.10\00:32:57.91 That means that if there is no fruit, there is no 00:32:58.44\00:33:02.01 relationship. 00:33:02.01\00:33:02.41 It's just a theory. 00:33:02.54\00:33:03.11 I've accepted Jesus. 00:33:03.24\00:33:04.41 I've been baptized. 00:33:04.55\00:33:05.48 You know what I mean? 00:33:06.01\00:33:06.85 Surrendered. 00:33:07.82\00:33:08.28 That's theory. 00:33:08.98\00:33:09.68 When you are in Jesus, Jesus in you, the Holy spirit, you see, 00:33:10.52\00:33:15.69 is the fruit of the spirit. 00:33:15.82\00:33:19.03 fruit of the spirit. 00:33:19.03\00:33:19.79 And so we talk about love, surrender, but never like to 00:33:20.33\00:33:24.20 talk about results. 00:33:24.20\00:33:24.90 There should be results. 00:33:25.67\00:33:27.00 Yeah. 00:33:27.27\00:33:27.70 Which are the fruit. 00:33:27.94\00:33:28.50 There should be growth. 00:33:29.34\00:33:30.67 We should, when you have a baby, if the baby doesn't grow, 00:33:31.01\00:33:33.34 you better go to the doctor. 00:33:33.48\00:33:34.61 The baby needs to grow from baby to maturity to the status 00:33:34.98\00:33:40.08 of fullness of Christ. 00:33:40.08\00:33:46.22 And so talking about that, how do you do that? 00:33:47.16\00:33:49.49 Well, the spirit prophecy actually talks about it. 00:33:49.89\00:33:53.19 And she says that God gives us a little light, insignificant 00:33:54.10\00:33:58.37 daily things that we don't even connect them to the religious 00:33:58.37\00:34:01.17 life. 00:34:01.17\00:34:01.94 And if we are faithful in those small insignificant things, 00:34:02.37\00:34:05.24 then God give us bigger things. 00:34:05.74\00:34:07.11 And basically we should be faithful in whatever we have to 00:34:07.61\00:34:11.25 do and do everything as we do it for God, number one, number 00:34:11.25\00:34:13.88 two. 00:34:13.88\00:34:14.25 She says that God would challenge us to surrender. 00:34:14.98\00:34:18.19 And I'm not gonna go to the paragraphs because there are 00:34:18.32\00:34:20.56 about four sermons in that direction, take some or more, 00:34:20.56\00:34:23.73 but that I have. 00:34:24.29\00:34:25.73 And so, but in a nutshell, that God is asking us to surrender 00:34:26.53\00:34:30.77 small things that we can do easily. 00:34:30.77\00:34:32.33 And as we do that and experience Him, we learn to 00:34:32.57\00:34:36.27 trust in Him. 00:34:36.27\00:34:36.71 And then we surrender more. 00:34:36.94\00:34:38.51 And then we surrender more. 00:34:38.84\00:34:40.21 So it's a growth. 00:34:40.51\00:34:41.44 God doesn't expect us in the beginning to just instantly be 00:34:41.74\00:34:44.81 mature and surrender everything, but God does expect 00:34:44.81\00:34:47.92 us to be faithful to where we are and then grow. 00:34:47.92\00:34:53.66 There should be growth. 00:34:54.09\00:34:55.12 And saying that, talking about surrender, I'm gonna give a 00:34:56.42\00:35:00.10 very foolish example. 00:35:00.10\00:35:01.23 It's so easy. 00:35:02.73\00:35:03.63 I love Jesus. 00:35:03.67\00:35:04.77 I'm ready to die for Jesus. 00:35:04.93\00:35:06.47 I give Him, I'm giving Him everything, but practically 00:35:06.47\00:35:10.14 when it's about to give a little, I mean, the pastor 00:35:10.14\00:35:12.14 would call us for a work be at the church. 00:35:12.14\00:35:14.21 I'm ready to give my life, but not to come to work be. 00:35:14.64\00:35:17.01 Be faithful in small things. 00:35:17.38\00:35:19.31 Don't get to the big things because you'll never get there. 00:35:19.38\00:35:21.48 If you don't use the little light, you'll never get the big 00:35:22.08\00:35:25.29 light. 00:35:25.29\00:35:28.52 get the fullness of the latter rain. 00:35:28.52\00:35:29.92 Use what God gave you if you want more. 00:35:31.33\00:35:34.10 People wait for big things in life. 00:35:34.40\00:35:35.80 They never come unless you are faithful. 00:35:35.80\00:35:38.77 You represent Christ wherever you are in whatever you do. 00:35:39.03\00:35:41.87 And so- That's great. 00:35:42.57\00:35:44.14 I was in school in Andrews and we get our car and I take my 00:35:44.37\00:35:51.11 friend who was ready to help me and he takes me to auction in 00:35:51.11\00:35:55.55 St. Louis. 00:35:55.55\00:35:56.35 Coming from Andrews to St. Louis, a big auction, you know, 00:35:56.82\00:36:00.76 and I see a van, Dodge Grand Caravan and I like, whoa, it 00:36:00.76\00:36:05.63 has TV. 00:36:05.63\00:36:06.43 In that time, in 1999 or in 2000, to have TV in the car was 00:36:06.83\00:36:13.94 whoa. 00:36:13.94\00:36:14.50 That's amazing. 00:36:14.50\00:36:15.10 Video games and lights inside and sensors in the bumper. 00:36:15.70\00:36:19.44 It was a luxury car. 00:36:19.64\00:36:21.18 Yeah. 00:36:21.18\00:36:21.61 $2,500. 00:36:22.54\00:36:23.55 Oh wow. 00:36:24.11\00:36:26.98 15,000. 00:36:27.42\00:36:28.28 Yes, there is something wrong. 00:36:28.58\00:36:29.88 So he goes online on Carfax and he goes says, it has a bad 00:36:29.95\00:36:33.59 transmission. 00:36:33.59\00:36:34.02 Don't touch it. 00:36:34.22\00:36:35.16 I want it. 00:36:35.26\00:36:37.09 TV. 00:36:37.26\00:36:37.66 He says, stay away from it. 00:36:38.63\00:36:39.86 I have the experience with this stuff. 00:36:39.96\00:36:41.76 Stay away from it. 00:36:41.96\00:36:42.73 No, I want it. 00:36:42.93\00:36:44.03 Be it for it. 00:36:44.53\00:36:45.10 He says, don't do it. 00:36:45.43\00:36:46.33 I said, hey, it's my money. 00:36:46.37\00:36:48.40 You said, you help me. 00:36:48.54\00:36:49.30 Do it. 00:36:49.44\00:36:49.90 So he bought the car. 00:36:50.64\00:36:51.91 I get in the car. 00:36:52.37\00:36:53.44 I drive home. 00:36:53.58\00:36:54.41 I park in front of the seminary, not in the parking, 00:36:54.71\00:36:57.58 right in front of the entrance door. 00:36:57.68\00:36:59.11 Leave the door open. 00:36:59.45\00:37:00.52 Hopefully that the students will take a peek. 00:37:00.52\00:37:02.18 I see the TV. 00:37:02.25\00:37:02.95 See this luxury van. 00:37:03.89\00:37:05.32 You were pretty proud of it. 00:37:05.35\00:37:06.76 And proud of it. 00:37:06.96\00:37:07.82 And then I drive home and the car gets stuck in the second 00:37:09.02\00:37:11.86 gear. 00:37:11.86\00:37:12.06 It will not change. 00:37:13.90\00:37:15.03 This transmission. 00:37:15.33\00:37:16.03 Oh, so I turn it off. 00:37:16.06\00:37:19.10 Turn it on. 00:37:19.30\00:37:19.90 It will not change. 00:37:20.97\00:37:21.77 It's stuck. 00:37:21.94\00:37:22.24 And I prayed and nothing. 00:37:22.57\00:37:24.51 So I go to a mechanic. 00:37:25.04\00:37:25.94 So you're praying for it to be fixed. 00:37:26.17\00:37:27.71 God, please help me. 00:37:28.21\00:37:29.51 I have this van that won't. 00:37:29.51\00:37:31.01 So I call my friend. 00:37:31.08\00:37:32.01 Hey, I told you don't buy it. 00:37:32.38\00:37:35.48 He says you should have prayed about it and you should have 00:37:36.65\00:37:38.79 given up your desire for a luxury car and you should get 00:37:38.79\00:37:43.59 one. 00:37:43.59\00:37:47.46 something that is reliable. 00:37:47.60\00:37:49.33 And he says, now, what can I do? 00:37:49.63\00:37:51.13 I cannot take it back. 00:37:51.20\00:37:52.27 So I go to a mechanic, one of my elders, and he goes to 00:37:52.50\00:37:56.94 auction, no, to a junkyard. 00:37:56.94\00:37:58.64 I'm sorry. 00:37:58.64\00:38:02.48 hundred dollars. 00:38:02.48\00:38:04.95 He installs the transmission. 00:38:05.01\00:38:05.85 I drive it three weeks and it breaks again. 00:38:06.01\00:38:08.88 Oh, really? 00:38:08.88\00:38:09.58 And I got so angry, so frustrated. 00:38:10.59\00:38:13.89 So and so I go to the auction second time. 00:38:14.32\00:38:16.93 I buy again. 00:38:16.93\00:38:17.89 I pay again. 00:38:17.96\00:38:18.69 I paid labor again. 00:38:19.06\00:38:20.30 I get a transmission again. 00:38:20.46\00:38:21.63 And then I said, I'm not going to use it. 00:38:21.93\00:38:23.93 I put it for sale. 00:38:23.93\00:38:24.77 Let somebody else have it. 00:38:24.90\00:38:26.47 So I put in the newspaper, I put it on Craigslist, on eBay, 00:38:26.97\00:38:31.67 on Amazon. 00:38:32.01\00:38:32.81 I put it in front of the mall and then in front of Walmart. 00:38:33.27\00:38:35.84 Big paper in the windshield. 00:38:36.31\00:38:38.15 Luxury vent, TV inside. 00:38:38.68\00:38:40.55 All the options, the sensors in the bumper. 00:38:42.45\00:38:44.12 All the thing that attracted you to it. 00:38:44.32\00:38:46.22 And I put four thousand five hundred to recover the money 00:38:46.52\00:38:49.56 that I put in fixing, you know. 00:38:49.56\00:38:50.99 Transmissions and everything. 00:38:51.26\00:38:52.13 Nobody called. 00:38:52.66\00:38:55.23 Nobody called. 00:38:55.23\00:38:56.23 So I dropped the price a little. 00:38:56.43\00:38:57.83 Nobody called. 00:38:57.93\00:38:58.50 I put it for sale for six months. 00:38:58.93\00:39:00.67 And then I said, you know what? 00:39:00.70\00:39:01.64 And I pray, Lord, please help me sell the junk. 00:39:01.77\00:39:04.11 Help me sell the junk. 00:39:05.24\00:39:06.27 And then eventually I said, you know, I use it until it breaks 00:39:07.01\00:39:09.18 and throw it away. 00:39:09.18\00:39:10.38 So I am driving to church and tell them you need to surrender 00:39:11.25\00:39:17.05 everything and preaching to the church on Wednesday night 00:39:17.05\00:39:20.96 prayer meeting. 00:39:20.96\00:39:21.62 You need to daily fully surrender. 00:39:21.72\00:39:24.13 Don't expect to surrender in big things. 00:39:24.66\00:39:26.59 When the persecution comes, last day events, you surrender 00:39:26.66\00:39:29.36 your life. 00:39:29.36\00:39:29.83 Not going to happen. 00:39:30.13\00:39:31.03 Surrender today. 00:39:32.73\00:39:33.50 Small things. 00:39:33.60\00:39:34.27 The pastor is calling you to do evangelism. 00:39:35.77\00:39:37.54 Don't say I'm busy. 00:39:37.57\00:39:38.41 Surrender your time. 00:39:38.91\00:39:39.81 Because God has surrendered his life for you. 00:39:40.44\00:39:42.21 If you really love Jesus, should be no limits to what you 00:39:42.64\00:39:45.41 surrender. 00:39:45.41\00:39:48.65 I said, that's how you know that you love Jesus. 00:39:48.95\00:39:50.95 Don't tell me that you love Jesus. 00:39:51.05\00:39:52.29 Show me what you surrender. 00:39:52.29\00:39:53.86 Because whatever you don't surrender, that's what you love 00:39:54.12\00:39:56.42 more than Jesus. 00:39:56.42\00:39:57.13 Now that is deep. 00:39:57.59\00:39:58.89 That's powerful. 00:39:58.89\00:39:59.63 And so I said, you say you don't have idols? 00:39:59.89\00:40:02.03 Things that you don't surrender are the things that you 00:40:02.73\00:40:05.00 worship. 00:40:05.00\00:40:05.30 That's right. 00:40:05.43\00:40:06.27 So after I preach a good sermon, I drive home, Lord, 00:40:06.57\00:40:10.47 please help me sell the van. 00:40:10.54\00:40:12.27 And God spoke in my mind, are you willing to surrender the 00:40:12.64\00:40:15.08 van? 00:40:15.08\00:40:15.54 I said, are you kidding me, Lord? 00:40:15.91\00:40:16.81 This is not Mercedes. 00:40:17.08\00:40:18.11 This is a junk. 00:40:18.18\00:40:19.05 Sure I'm willing to surrender. 00:40:19.15\00:40:20.15 And God says, okay, give it to me for ministry. 00:40:20.55\00:40:23.32 I said, Lord, how much do you pay for it? 00:40:23.89\00:40:26.79 Because I need money. 00:40:27.26\00:40:28.16 I don't have money. 00:40:28.22\00:40:28.76 I need money to buy a car. 00:40:28.86\00:40:29.89 So God, how much do you want to pay for this? 00:40:29.96\00:40:31.46 And God said, well, does not surrender. 00:40:31.66\00:40:33.19 Yeah. 00:40:33.43\00:40:33.76 Yeah. 00:40:34.00\00:40:34.20 And then he's impressed me and says, do you love me? 00:40:35.10\00:40:38.30 I said, absolutely. 00:40:38.53\00:40:39.23 With all your heart, yes. 00:40:39.50\00:40:40.40 More than anything, yes. 00:40:40.50\00:40:41.44 He says, no, you don't love me. 00:40:41.84\00:40:42.97 You love the van more than me because you have second 00:40:43.57\00:40:46.07 thoughts to give me the van. 00:40:46.07\00:40:47.11 If you loved me more than the van, you would give me the van. 00:40:47.31\00:40:49.74 And I realized in that moment, it's easy to say, surrender, I 00:40:50.88\00:40:54.68 love Jesus, but it's hard to let go something so small. 00:40:54.68\00:40:59.52 Yeah. 00:40:59.62\00:41:04.06 the blessings and the health. 00:41:04.06\00:41:05.03 And if God took his hands off, we'll die in a second. 00:41:05.19\00:41:07.60 Yeah, true. 00:41:07.73\00:41:08.36 So I said, Lord, forgive me. 00:41:08.46\00:41:09.63 I'm willing to surrender the van. 00:41:09.70\00:41:11.07 And God spoke in my mind, said, don't you realize that I can 00:41:12.33\00:41:15.70 bless you and give you a car? 00:41:15.70\00:41:16.71 Don't you trust me? 00:41:16.87\00:41:18.01 Put me first, my kingdom, and the other things will be 00:41:18.01\00:41:21.78 supplied. 00:41:21.78\00:41:22.08 I love you. 00:41:22.34\00:41:23.21 I can take care of you. 00:41:23.75\00:41:25.01 I've been taking care of you so far. 00:41:25.08\00:41:26.61 Don't you trust me? 00:41:26.61\00:41:26.65 Amen. 00:41:27.95\00:41:28.32 I said, Lord, you can have it. 00:41:28.65\00:41:29.68 In that moment, my telephone rings. 00:41:30.62\00:41:32.05 A church member, pastor, do you still have the van? 00:41:32.79\00:41:34.59 I said, yes, why? 00:41:34.69\00:41:35.99 I wanna buy it. 00:41:36.39\00:41:37.23 I said, no, I'm not gonna sell it to you. 00:41:37.59\00:41:39.89 I will sell it to a stranger, not to you, because you will 00:41:39.93\00:41:41.66 hate me forever. 00:41:41.66\00:41:42.36 You will never come back to church. 00:41:42.53\00:41:43.57 She says, I know the transmission. 00:41:43.97\00:41:45.37 My brother is the mechanic. 00:41:45.50\00:41:46.63 He fixed it for you. 00:41:46.67\00:41:47.44 I'm gonna buy it now. 00:41:47.44\00:41:48.14 She says, that's the reason I call you. 00:41:48.50\00:41:49.90 I don't have 20,000 to buy or 30,000 to buy. 00:41:50.01\00:41:52.64 I have only about 1,500. 00:41:52.94\00:41:54.74 Would you take 1,500 for me? 00:41:54.94\00:41:56.85 I said, well, it's a lot less than what I wanted, but yes, I 00:41:57.38\00:42:00.15 decided to surrender. 00:42:00.15\00:42:00.88 So whatever God says, that's what I do. 00:42:01.05\00:42:02.65 But I said, I'm curious. 00:42:02.88\00:42:04.05 Why do you want it? 00:42:04.12\00:42:05.12 He says, well, after your sermon, I said, Lord, I want to 00:42:05.29\00:42:08.16 surrender and to serve. 00:42:08.16\00:42:09.19 And God impressed me to drive the kids who don't have a car 00:42:09.86\00:42:12.63 to our school, to drive people who don't have a car to our 00:42:12.63\00:42:16.06 church. 00:42:16.06\00:42:19.80 So I pray, Lord, give me a bigger car and God impressed me 00:42:20.60\00:42:23.10 to call you. 00:42:23.10\00:42:23.67 And this is all I have 1,500. 00:42:23.81\00:42:25.47 I said, you know what? 00:42:25.67\00:42:26.34 Take it, God bless you. 00:42:26.37\00:42:27.68 Now, long story short, 10 years later, I was in a different 00:42:29.08\00:42:32.31 district in Kentucky, no longer in Wisconsin. 00:42:32.31\00:42:34.35 I am driving with my family to Montana in vacation. 00:42:35.02\00:42:37.42 And we stopped in Wisconsin to an olive garden and we get a 00:42:37.79\00:42:42.19 soup and salad, if I mean Australian soup, if I remember 00:42:42.19\00:42:44.13 right. 00:42:44.13\00:42:47.46 Is that lady? 00:42:47.60\00:42:48.46 Oh, my God. 00:42:48.60\00:42:49.36 Pastor, how are you doing? 00:42:49.43\00:42:50.40 Good, you're good. 00:42:50.43\00:42:51.10 I said, hey, what car do you drive now? 00:42:51.60\00:42:53.30 And she says, look in the parking. 00:42:53.34\00:42:54.34 It's the same car. 00:42:54.70\00:42:55.40 It never broke. 00:42:55.50\00:42:56.37 Since I gave it to God, it keeps working. 00:42:56.44\00:42:58.24 I said, oh, come on. 00:42:58.84\00:43:00.48 The van worked for 10 more years. 00:43:01.11\00:43:02.81 And no transmission problems? 00:43:02.81\00:43:04.35 She said, no. 00:43:04.38\00:43:04.98 Now, obviously after that, I know how many years she kept 00:43:05.71\00:43:08.18 it, but this is what we don't understand about surrender. 00:43:08.18\00:43:12.52 We expect surrender to be a big thing. 00:43:12.52\00:43:15.06 And we never surrender the small things. 00:43:15.86\00:43:18.06 And that's how God would grow us. 00:43:18.19\00:43:20.16 Start with what you have. 00:43:20.46\00:43:22.33 And then learn by experiencing Him to trust Him. 00:43:22.43\00:43:27.24 Because without trust, there is no God, no relationship. 00:43:27.97\00:43:30.81 When Jesus comes, He says to a group, I don't know you. 00:43:31.21\00:43:34.61 That's right. 00:43:34.61\00:43:35.61 And the word is not didaskalo, theoretical knowledge. 00:43:35.74\00:43:39.95 It's not genosko, relationship. 00:43:40.32\00:43:42.52 Oida. 00:43:43.72\00:43:48.76 God says, you may know me, but you don't know me enough to 00:43:49.16\00:43:51.96 fully trust me. 00:43:51.96\00:43:52.89 There is no trust. 00:43:53.03\00:43:53.93 There's no relationship. 00:43:55.16\00:43:55.90 So the way that trust grows is to do it, you said, moment by 00:43:56.80\00:44:00.90 moment, is God gives us these opportunities to just trust Him 00:44:00.90\00:44:03.41 and to give ourselves wholly to Him. 00:44:03.41\00:44:05.31 Sometimes we wait for the big things like you said, and 00:44:05.64\00:44:08.01 they'll never come. 00:44:08.01\00:44:08.91 So God wants us today. 00:44:09.44\00:44:10.95 Study of the word. 00:44:11.25\00:44:12.11 Surrender daily, experience Him daily. 00:44:12.91\00:44:15.52 And those things, don't worry about growth. 00:44:15.95\00:44:17.52 Just stay in Jesus. 00:44:18.22\00:44:19.82 And those things come. 00:44:20.02\00:44:21.29 We should not be concerned with growth. 00:44:21.86\00:44:23.43 God gives the growth. 00:44:23.53\00:44:24.76 Including in our garden. 00:44:25.13\00:44:26.33 But we should be concerned with relationship. 00:44:26.53\00:44:28.63 That's great. 00:44:29.33\00:44:29.90 And not be concerned with growth. 00:44:30.17\00:44:31.53 That's great. 00:44:31.57\00:44:34.10 concerned about, are we growing? 00:44:34.10\00:44:35.10 But don't worry about that. 00:44:35.27\00:44:36.14 Just stay in His word. 00:44:36.17\00:44:37.04 Do what He's asking us and we'll automatically grow. 00:44:37.44\00:44:39.37 God will not save us based on how grown we are. 00:44:39.41\00:44:42.38 Like the thief on the cross. 00:44:42.84\00:44:43.48 That's right. 00:44:43.58\00:44:43.98 The thief was not grown. 00:44:44.15\00:44:45.18 God will judge us based on how much we love Him. 00:44:45.88\00:44:49.12 How much we trust Him. 00:44:49.25\00:44:50.69 Are we in Him? 00:44:50.92\00:44:51.82 He who has Christ, has life. 00:44:52.79\00:44:55.19 That's right. 00:44:55.46\00:44:56.02 Are we in Him? 00:44:56.16\00:44:56.96 That's right. 00:44:56.96\00:44:57.59 Yeah, praise God. 00:44:57.76\00:44:58.59 I know we just have only like 12 minutes left or so in this 00:44:59.03\00:45:01.00 first hour. 00:45:01.00\00:45:01.76 I would like to hear another story. 00:45:01.83\00:45:03.67 You mentioned some when you're talking about your father. 00:45:03.73\00:45:05.77 Your father passed away at a young age. 00:45:05.77\00:45:07.17 You were a young man at that point too. 00:45:07.20\00:45:08.87 But you're talking about some incredible, unbelievable 00:45:09.30\00:45:11.41 stories that you saw prayers answered to when your father 00:45:11.41\00:45:13.94 was working, it sounds like in communism, right? 00:45:13.94\00:45:15.91 Sharing the gospel message. 00:45:15.91\00:45:17.15 There's a one particular story that really sticks out that's 00:45:17.65\00:45:20.48 like, wow, just fantastic to see God's hand at work. 00:45:20.48\00:45:23.28 Many, I'm gonna give a very simple one. 00:45:23.32\00:45:25.05 There are big stories. 00:45:25.35\00:45:26.45 Like when the police came, we had a bunch of Bibles. 00:45:26.45\00:45:26.49 I mean, I don't know, 30, 40, 50 boxes of Bibles in the 00:45:29.62\00:45:33.63 middle of the living room. 00:45:33.63\00:45:34.40 I mean, a pile. 00:45:34.40\00:45:36.10 And it's illegal, right? 00:45:36.26\00:45:37.37 Illegal to have those Bibles there. 00:45:37.37\00:45:38.83 Against the law, you would be arrested and you would not see 00:45:39.70\00:45:42.00 the light. 00:45:42.00\00:45:42.64 But anyway, I mean, a pile of Bibles in the center of the 00:45:43.24\00:45:46.04 living room. 00:45:46.04\00:45:46.64 You could not, our living room was so small. 00:45:47.04\00:45:48.54 You would walk around, you know, and the police came and 00:45:48.71\00:45:51.31 searched our house for several hours. 00:45:51.31\00:45:52.81 They would walk around and they said, there is no Bible in this 00:45:53.05\00:45:55.12 house and they left. 00:45:55.12\00:45:55.82 They never saw it. 00:45:55.82\00:45:56.79 Blind. 00:45:57.15\00:45:57.52 And it was right there. 00:45:58.22\00:45:59.15 Right there, in the middle. 00:45:59.25\00:46:00.46 But anyway, I'm not gonna give those type of stories. 00:46:01.16\00:46:03.79 I'm gonna give one that is ridiculously simple, but funny. 00:46:03.79\00:46:06.93 My father would take his friend, Benjamin, and they 00:46:07.73\00:46:11.10 would go from village to village with Bibles on their 00:46:11.10\00:46:14.10 backpack and do canvassing. 00:46:14.10\00:46:16.27 And there are many people who could not pay anything. 00:46:17.21\00:46:19.14 So they would just give it to them. 00:46:19.14\00:46:19.17 The goal was to make sure that people have Bibles in their 00:46:20.64\00:46:23.21 homes. 00:46:23.21\00:46:23.65 They read the Bibles. 00:46:23.78\00:46:24.71 And he would pray with people. 00:46:25.01\00:46:26.15 So they go and they basically, they are in a village and they 00:46:28.32\00:46:34.29 give Bibles and somebody calls the police. 00:46:34.29\00:46:36.42 Somebody has Bibles. 00:46:36.59\00:46:37.53 So the police comes and they run and the police comes after 00:46:37.83\00:46:40.70 them and they get outside the village and the police comes 00:46:40.70\00:46:43.00 over and in front, it's a deep gorge, deep and the river down 00:46:43.00\00:46:47.77 and the bridge over. 00:46:48.40\00:46:49.84 The police comes from behind and then there is police 00:46:51.17\00:46:53.21 waiting on the other side of the bridge. 00:46:53.21\00:46:54.68 They have no way to go. 00:46:55.11\00:46:56.14 So they take a right in the forest. 00:46:57.08\00:46:58.61 The police comes after them and they run and run and run and 00:46:59.51\00:47:01.92 run and run in the forest and police after them. 00:47:01.92\00:47:03.82 And they see an old suspended bridge on cables. 00:47:04.49\00:47:08.86 The cables are rusted and the little cables rusted and the 00:47:09.39\00:47:14.36 wood boards rotten, badly rotten. 00:47:14.36\00:47:16.56 I mean, your finger would go to, like really old. 00:47:16.77\00:47:20.30 And Benjamin says, Oh, should he cross? 00:47:21.30\00:47:23.27 And my father says, there is no option to stay here. 00:47:23.44\00:47:26.24 I mean, Egyptians are following us. 00:47:26.37\00:47:28.34 They are after us. 00:47:29.14\00:47:30.11 This is the Red Sea. 00:47:30.11\00:47:30.88 This is, let's cross. 00:47:31.15\00:47:32.11 So my father starts and the bridge starts moving, you know. 00:47:32.81\00:47:36.48 On the rusty cables. 00:47:36.62\00:47:37.92 Yeah. 00:47:38.42\00:47:43.83 father walks, you know, and he always, always would sing. 00:47:43.83\00:47:47.00 He's walking on the bridge and singing. 00:47:47.40\00:47:49.40 Oh, wow. 00:47:49.53\00:47:50.20 And instantly Benjamin screams, Pavel, stop! 00:47:50.93\00:47:54.50 And he stops, he looks back. 00:47:55.07\00:47:56.10 Why? 00:47:56.14\00:47:58.74 And Benjamin says, look down. 00:47:58.74\00:48:00.78 And he looks down and there are boards, many boards, like six, 00:48:01.18\00:48:04.41 seven, eight boards missing. 00:48:04.45\00:48:05.65 And my father is literally sitting on air. 00:48:05.75\00:48:08.12 There is the board in front, the board behind, but in that 00:48:08.48\00:48:11.05 spot, both legs, both feet are in the air. 00:48:11.05\00:48:13.96 He's stepping on nothing. 00:48:14.12\00:48:15.82 You could see, you just sit down the gorge, the river. 00:48:16.16\00:48:19.46 And my father says, Oh, and he steps a few steps forward until 00:48:19.56\00:48:23.80 he reaches the boards. 00:48:23.80\00:48:24.63 He walked on air. 00:48:25.67\00:48:27.67 And Benjamin says, how do you explain that? 00:48:27.67\00:48:29.94 And my father says, well, he'll send his angel and put his palm 00:48:30.01\00:48:34.11 under your foot. 00:48:34.11\00:48:34.94 And my father says, come on. 00:48:35.74\00:48:36.91 And Benjamin says, I don't want to try that. 00:48:37.01\00:48:39.58 So there was literally nothing under his feet. 00:48:39.95\00:48:42.08 No boards. 00:48:42.25\00:48:42.38 Absolutely nothing. 00:48:43.15\00:48:43.69 Absolutely nothing. 00:48:44.65\00:48:45.49 And you could not jump over, it was too far. 00:48:45.89\00:48:47.52 There were a few steps, maybe two, three steps, I don't know. 00:48:47.82\00:48:50.13 So what happened to Benjamin? 00:48:51.03\00:48:52.03 So he, hanging from the hands on the cable, passed that spot. 00:48:52.93\00:48:58.83 The police got to the bridge in that time and they were 00:48:59.43\00:49:02.37 watching it. 00:49:02.37\00:49:03.44 When they saw my father walking, though they were 00:49:03.47\00:49:06.01 communist, my father told me that as he looked back and he 00:49:06.01\00:49:09.08 saw them, they were frozen. 00:49:09.08\00:49:10.25 And the one in the front did that cross. 00:49:11.08\00:49:13.01 And he told the others, let's go back. 00:49:13.42\00:49:15.18 And they turned around and left. 00:49:15.68\00:49:17.02 But now the funny part of the story, they walked through the 00:49:17.45\00:49:21.22 forest a little more and they said, if we go back in the 00:49:21.22\00:49:24.53 village, they will arrest us. 00:49:24.53\00:49:25.66 The next village is far away. 00:49:26.56\00:49:28.06 If we go back on the road, they will arrest us. 00:49:28.13\00:49:30.47 They said, why don't we sleep here in the forest for tonight? 00:49:30.80\00:49:32.93 So they sleep there. 00:49:33.77\00:49:34.74 In the morning, they are hungry, hungry, thirsty. 00:49:34.74\00:49:37.91 So Benjamin said, what do we do? 00:49:38.67\00:49:39.67 We go back to the village. 00:49:39.67\00:49:39.71 My father says, no, we pray. 00:49:40.64\00:49:42.31 He fed Elijah, he fed Israel. 00:49:42.61\00:49:44.45 He can feed us, he is God. 00:49:44.58\00:49:46.15 And Benjamin says, no, that's in the Bible. 00:49:46.58\00:49:48.15 My father says, no, no, no, that's real. 00:49:48.45\00:49:50.45 So he says, let's pray. 00:49:51.69\00:49:52.75 They keep praying and walking and praying and walking. 00:49:52.85\00:49:54.69 And my father hits something with his head. 00:49:54.69\00:49:56.59 I mean, his head against, boom, ouch. 00:49:57.03\00:49:59.73 And he looks up. 00:50:00.63\00:50:01.46 There is a big homemade bread hanging from a branch of a tree 00:50:01.83\00:50:07.20 with a rope. 00:50:07.20\00:50:08.27 Homemade bread. 00:50:08.40\00:50:09.14 Homemade bread. 00:50:09.37\00:50:10.24 How do you explain that? 00:50:11.11\00:50:12.74 And so when my father and Benjamin told us the story, I 00:50:13.01\00:50:16.38 was like, who put it there? 00:50:16.38\00:50:17.38 My father said, I don't care who put it there. 00:50:17.41\00:50:19.05 And I don't care the reason. 00:50:19.18\00:50:20.72 I just know that we ate. 00:50:20.85\00:50:22.48 Wow. 00:50:22.82\00:50:23.55 So how old were you when your father would come back with 00:50:24.05\00:50:25.95 these stories, like this particular one? 00:50:25.95\00:50:27.49 Cause I know four years older, you were telling us that story 00:50:27.52\00:50:29.46 in the very beginning, but how... 00:50:29.46\00:50:31.09 Since I know myself, he would come home again and again with 00:50:31.09\00:50:33.66 Bibles. 00:50:33.66\00:50:34.13 He would come home. 00:50:34.13\00:50:34.20 I remember he would come in the middle of the night. 00:50:35.23\00:50:37.07 He says, honey, to my mom, I got 400, I got a thousand 00:50:37.17\00:50:40.54 Bibles. 00:50:40.54\00:50:41.00 Let's unload them or let's take them to the countryside to 00:50:41.70\00:50:44.24 grandpa or let's right away, let's act on it. 00:50:44.24\00:50:46.68 Let's not keep them too long or let's pass them to people. 00:50:46.68\00:50:49.18 So since I knew myself, yeah. 00:50:49.64\00:50:52.05 Yeah, since you were young, young. 00:50:52.05\00:50:53.92 That's amazing. 00:50:54.08\00:50:54.68 Wow. 00:50:54.92\00:50:55.28 Praise God. 00:50:55.28\00:50:57.45 And like he mentioned, Pastor Pavel, is that we talk about 00:50:57.59\00:51:01.62 and read about the Bible stories and hear the answers of 00:51:01.62\00:51:04.39 prayer in the Bible from long ago, but God still answers 00:51:04.39\00:51:07.93 prayer today. 00:51:07.93\00:51:11.13 in the last, not too long. 00:51:11.13\00:51:12.43 I mean, your father, that would have been what? 00:51:12.53\00:51:14.10 How many years ago your father was? 00:51:14.10\00:51:14.14 He died six months before the revolution in Romania. 00:51:16.04\00:51:18.54 Okay. 00:51:18.67\00:51:19.14 So it was in 89. 00:51:19.21\00:51:20.64 Yep. 00:51:21.11\00:51:21.34 Yeah. 00:51:21.61\00:51:22.04 Not that long ago. 00:51:22.11\00:51:22.71 It's amazing. 00:51:22.91\00:51:23.51 Yeah. 00:51:24.38\00:51:27.08 working, God answering God. 00:51:27.08\00:51:28.45 Yeah. 00:51:28.45\00:51:30.22 Certainly God never lost his power, never changed. 00:51:30.65\00:51:33.99 And he loves challenges. 00:51:34.29\00:51:36.39 Nothing is impossible for God. 00:51:36.59\00:51:37.99 However, we should never look for miracles. 00:51:38.29\00:51:40.86 We should not. 00:51:41.06\00:51:45.10 voice or to experience a miracle. 00:51:45.10\00:51:46.84 Should simply be to know God, to understand him more, to 00:51:46.84\00:51:52.11 understand his plans, to love him, to surrender, to trust 00:51:52.11\00:51:55.64 him, to walk with him. 00:51:55.64\00:51:56.85 That's beautiful. 00:51:57.28\00:51:58.08 Is prayer any communication with God? 00:51:58.18\00:52:00.22 Or is it like you were talking about the disciples earlier, 00:52:00.88\00:52:03.05 teach us how to pray, asking Jesus. 00:52:03.18\00:52:04.92 So, you know, it's like our father which art in heaven or 00:52:05.05\00:52:07.42 is it just like God save me is also a prayer? 00:52:07.42\00:52:09.79 All of the above. 00:52:10.63\00:52:11.49 You see, prayer is the opening of the soul to God as to a 00:52:11.83\00:52:15.83 friend. 00:52:15.83\00:52:18.90 Well, if prayer is the breath of the soul. 00:52:19.30\00:52:21.44 It's constant. 00:52:22.07\00:52:22.94 That means I've never seen anybody in my life to breathe 00:52:23.37\00:52:26.51 three minutes in the morning, three minutes in the evening 00:52:26.51\00:52:28.04 and stay alive. 00:52:28.04\00:52:28.78 That's right. 00:52:29.28\00:52:29.71 I haven't either. 00:52:29.78\00:52:30.61 If you want to stay alive, you need to keep breathing. 00:52:30.95\00:52:32.88 That's the reason the Bible says pray without ceasing. 00:52:33.35\00:52:36.42 Satan is not afraid of our experience. 00:52:37.02\00:52:39.95 Satan is not afraid of our training or education. 00:52:40.39\00:52:42.89 Satan is not afraid of our power or that we eat healthy or 00:52:43.29\00:52:46.73 that we go to church or that we sing in the choir or go to 00:52:46.73\00:52:49.26 committee or that we keep Sabbath. 00:52:49.26\00:52:50.83 Pharisees kept Sabbath. 00:52:51.17\00:52:54.50 Satan is not afraid that we do all the religious forms, but 00:52:54.90\00:52:58.24 Satan and his host tremble and flee when we pray because he 00:52:58.24\00:53:03.45 knows that when we pray, we connect with the source of all 00:53:03.45\00:53:07.18 power, the greatest power in the universe. 00:53:07.18\00:53:08.82 And there is nothing he can do against that. 00:53:09.05\00:53:10.99 So that's the single defense. 00:53:11.29\00:53:12.99 We should continually be in God's presence, continually 00:53:12.99\00:53:16.52 connect, pray without ceasing. 00:53:16.52\00:53:18.19 So that's the reason it says pray is the breath. 00:53:19.23\00:53:20.93 Keep breathing, keep praying. 00:53:21.23\00:53:22.63 More than that, people breathe not only out, people breathe 00:53:23.03\00:53:25.57 also in. 00:53:25.57\00:53:26.33 That's the reason LNY says that prayer is a communication, is a 00:53:26.94\00:53:29.64 dialogue. 00:53:29.64\00:53:34.38 him. 00:53:34.38\00:53:34.81 He knows everything. 00:53:34.91\00:53:35.61 She says our prayers are not to inform God. 00:53:36.18\00:53:38.41 It is so important to also learn to listen. 00:53:39.11\00:53:42.15 People never listen, even in our communication, people never 00:53:42.15\00:53:46.05 listen. 00:53:46.05\00:53:46.45 I mean, not never, but many times. 00:53:47.16\00:53:49.09 So to listen and she says in the spirit prophecy that 00:53:49.86\00:53:54.30 through prayer, we talk to God and through the word he talks 00:53:54.30\00:53:56.87 to us just as he was right next to us. 00:53:56.87\00:53:59.30 So she says prayer and the study of the word should never 00:53:59.70\00:54:02.87 be separated. 00:54:02.87\00:54:03.71 We should pray and study. 00:54:04.71\00:54:06.07 And she says, reflect, think about it. 00:54:06.37\00:54:08.88 Yeah, no, that's great. 00:54:09.21\00:54:10.38 I know second hour, we're gonna talk specifically more about 00:54:10.38\00:54:13.72 how to study the Bible and how we can reach others. 00:54:13.72\00:54:16.28 And in these last days, these closing moments of earth's 00:54:16.55\00:54:19.69 history, how we can prepare as Christians for the final crisis 00:54:19.69\00:54:24.23 that's coming upon us. 00:54:24.23\00:54:25.49 And also, I wanna talk to you more about the assurance we can 00:54:25.73\00:54:29.00 have of salvation. 00:54:29.00\00:54:30.23 You quoted that scripture that he who has a son has life and 00:54:30.60\00:54:34.17 we can maybe dialogue a little bit about that too. 00:54:34.17\00:54:36.47 But before we close out this first hour, I was thinking 00:54:36.84\00:54:39.27 we're talking about prayer. 00:54:39.27\00:54:40.31 We should really spend some time in prayer. 00:54:40.58\00:54:42.31 This hour and the next hour as well. 00:54:42.61\00:54:44.71 So would you mind Pastor Goyev leading us in a prayer before 00:54:45.18\00:54:48.92 we close out this first hour? 00:54:48.92\00:54:49.78 Father in heaven, what a privilege to come in your 00:54:54.06\00:54:58.09 presence and to talk to you. 00:54:58.09\00:55:00.70 Angels cover themselves in your presence. 00:55:02.33\00:55:04.83 Who are we to come in your presence? 00:55:05.67\00:55:08.04 Thank you for the joy, the privilege, the blessing of 00:55:08.87\00:55:11.71 prayer. 00:55:11.71\00:55:12.01 Thank you that you know us, you hear our prayers, you know our 00:55:12.94\00:55:16.41 hearts. 00:55:16.41\00:55:19.61 before we even think. 00:55:19.61\00:55:20.48 Thank you that you love us with such a love that you gave Jesus 00:55:20.88\00:55:23.52 for us. 00:55:23.52\00:55:24.49 Father, please help us to love prayer and to love the world. 00:55:25.05\00:55:29.69 To love you, to have a thirst for you, a desire, a passion 00:55:30.03\00:55:34.93 for you, for the Bible, for prayer. 00:55:34.93\00:55:38.03 Help us to seek you with all our heart. 00:55:38.63\00:55:40.97 Help us to enjoy your presence and never separate from you. 00:55:41.70\00:55:46.27 Help us to start the day with you and then to continue to 00:55:46.64\00:55:49.28 walk with you every single day. 00:55:49.28\00:55:51.41 Father, you promise that if we seek you with all our heart, 00:55:52.41\00:55:55.45 we'll find you. 00:55:55.48\00:55:56.65 Help us to seek you with all our heart. 00:55:56.95\00:55:59.65 I pray for the people who are watching this program for every 00:56:00.22\00:56:03.56 single one. 00:56:03.56\00:56:04.33 I pray that you put this deep desire, this thirst for a 00:56:04.96\00:56:11.17 knowledge of you, for a relationship with you. 00:56:11.17\00:56:14.14 I pray that they don't look to self and get discouraged, but 00:56:14.47\00:56:17.81 rather they fix their eyes on you because nothing is 00:56:17.81\00:56:20.74 impossible for you. 00:56:20.74\00:56:21.74 You are able to finish what you started. 00:56:22.34\00:56:24.35 You love us with a love that surpasses human understanding. 00:56:25.45\00:56:28.08 I pray that they will fix their eyes on you and know you and 00:56:29.02\00:56:31.89 trust you and love you. 00:56:31.89\00:56:33.05 Father, we pray in Jesus' precious powerful name and 00:56:34.16\00:56:37.89 thank you for answering. 00:56:37.89\00:56:39.03 We love you and we praise you. 00:56:39.36\00:56:40.96 Amen. 00:56:41.10\00:56:41.33 What a powerful first hour it has been. 00:56:42.83\00:56:46.33 Thank you for taking time to come and share. 00:56:46.63\00:56:48.84 I think one of my favorite parts about the first hour, I 00:56:49.20\00:56:51.44 wrote it down. 00:56:51.44\00:56:52.07 Don't be concerned with growth. 00:56:52.47\00:56:54.91 I think so many times as Christians we can worry about 00:56:55.14\00:56:58.28 that. 00:56:58.28\00:57:00.65 Am I growing enough in Jesus? 00:57:00.65\00:57:00.68 But focus on Jesus. 00:57:03.32\00:57:05.35 Philippians 1 verse 6, being confident of this very thing 00:57:05.35\00:57:08.72 that he who began a good work in us will carry it forward to 00:57:08.72\00:57:12.93 completion. 00:57:12.93\00:57:17.03 will do the growing process in us. 00:57:17.03\00:57:19.83 I love that. 00:57:19.90\00:57:21.20 And the stories that you shared were so powerful. 00:57:21.30\00:57:23.71 Encouraged my own walk with Jesus. 00:57:24.11\00:57:25.91 And we know many of you are at many different journeys in your 00:57:25.97\00:57:29.71 walk with Jesus. 00:57:29.71\00:57:30.61 Just take a baby step right now today. 00:57:30.85\00:57:32.91 Make a choice today. 00:57:33.05\00:57:34.18 Yes, I want you in my heart and in my life. 00:57:34.18\00:57:37.39 Yes, I'm choosing to surrender the little things right now 00:57:37.89\00:57:41.52 today. 00:57:41.52\00:57:45.29 life. 00:57:45.29\00:57:45.73 We will be right back. 00:57:45.86\00:57:47.20