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00:03 I want to spend my life mending broken people.
00:15 I want to spend my life. 00:36 I want to spend my life mending broken people. 00:47 I want to spend my life mending broken people. 01:06 Hello and welcome to another 3ABN Today Behind the Scenes. 01:10 We're so glad that you've joined us this evening and you know we're so 01:13 happy to be alive and I have to say privileged to be alive at this 01:17 moment in earth's history. 01:19 You know there's so much going on, so much chaos and it seems like 01:22 when you listen to news and stuff it all seems to be like negativity, 01:25 right? 01:30 and that's what 3ABN is all about from the very beginning and that's 01:34 sharing the undiluted three angels messages to a lost and dying world. 01:38 And this evening we're so glad that you're part of the 3ABN family. 01:42 We just want to say thank you for your continued prayers for the 01:45 ministry and your financial support. 01:47 It's what keeps this ministry not only going but growing as well. 01:52 And I love these Behind the Scenes program where we're talking about 01:54 what God is doing through the ministry of 3ABN but also other 01:58 ministries as well and we're going to be talking to Pastor Doug here, 02:01 Jill, in just a couple of minutes about something that's exciting 02:03 that's happening and amazing facts. 02:05 Absolutely, we love sharing what God is doing in and through the 02:09 ministry of 3ABN, your ministry as well as in and through other 02:13 ministries such as Amazing Facts. 02:15 Before we introduce Pastor Doug we want to introduce our family around 02:18 the table and we'll be trading out guests and family members for the 02:22 second hour. 02:26 Thank you, it's good to be here. 02:27 We love working in ministry with both of you. 02:30 It's fun working with both of you. 02:31 We have a great time together. 02:33 We do, coming around the table, our sister Shelly Quinn, 3ABN program 02:38 development manager and producer and JD's not here tonight but he's 02:42 just as part of the ministry as well. 02:44 He certainly is and I couldn't do it without him. 02:47 Glad you're here. 02:52 at home as well. 02:53 We have Pastor Doug Batchelor that's joining us this evening via 02:56 Skype all the way from California. 02:59 Are you there Pastor Doug? 03:00 We can see you. 03:02 I am. 03:03 I feel like I'm part of the 3ABN family and I've spent so much time 03:06 there. 03:08 So greetings, Greg and Jill, Shelly, Dr. Yvonne, Danny, it's 03:11 good to be with you this evening. 03:13 Thank you, it's good to be with you. 03:15 You know 3ABN and Amazing Facts we've had the privilege of 03:17 partnering Mr. Danny with the Ministry of Amazing Facts for many, 03:20 many years on many different events and again we're privileged. 03:24 Back from the middle nineties. 03:27 Boss Auditorium was our first satellite seminar I think. 03:30 What was that, was that mid, that was 95? 03:32 I think it was like 95 or 6. 03:34 Doug can tell us but it was... 03:36 Yeah, the boss meetings were 97. 03:38 97. 03:39 Wow. 03:43 that point. 03:47 True, right? 03:48 Amazing. 03:51 New York City and again 3ABN is privileged to help broadcast what's 03:55 going on there. 03:58 Yeah, thanks Greg. 04:03 about this event that's coming up in a month, well a few weeks 04:07 probably from the time of broadcast that it's going to be Prophecy 04:11 Odyssey in New York City, right downtown New York City. 04:16 Things are going to be pretty exciting. 04:17 It'll be just a few weeks before the National Presidential Election 04:22 and we'll be broadcasting 15 evangelistic programs from the 04:28 Manhattan Center and it'll be going to all the world. 04:32 And I'd like to just share a quick verse I think everyone knows, 04:35 Matthew 24, 14, where Jesus said the gospel of the kingdom will go 04:40 into all the world for a witness unto the nations, to all nations, 04:44 and then the end will come. 04:46 And we're going to be using this new technology that has just been 04:51 refined at the Olympics. 04:53 It's the AI technology where and we just tested it they'll be capturing 04:59 my voice such as it is and they can translate as I preach not broadcast 05:07 the next day but in 60 seconds after I preach in New York City, 05:11 they'll be translating my voice into 12 different languages that 05:16 are spoken by 7 out of 8 billion people in the world. 05:21 It's either their first or second language. 05:23 So it'll be Russian, French, Spanish, Hindi, Mandarin, 05:27 Portuguese, Swahili, Tagalog and several others I can't remember. 05:32 So we're really excited and I know that the devil is concerned about 05:38 this event because we're getting everybody involved. 05:42 We're very thrilled that 3ABN is going to be doing the primary 05:45 broadcast in North America and around the world. 05:49 We'll be joined of course Amazing Facts. 05:51 We'll carry a secondary broadcast so people in other time zones can 05:54 carry it. 05:55 But we're inviting people. 05:57 I know even some of you will be coming. 06:00 We're inviting people to come to New York City as missionaries 06:03 because we've basically reserved this huge center, the Manhattan 06:07 Center with the T2000 all day long. 06:11 During the day we'll do missionary evangelism training. 06:14 We're going to give people books. 06:16 Maybe some of the books you're talking about now. 06:19 And share. 06:23 ministry, evangelism training in the building. 06:27 And there are hundreds of people that are going to be hitting the 06:29 streets in Manhattan during a beautiful time of year. 06:34 And they can then see some of the sites. 06:36 There's amazing things to see. 06:37 Statue of Liberty, the Indianapolis and the Indianapolis. 06:43 And then come to the meetings at night and be part of this live 06:48 international broadcast. 06:50 So we're just really excited. 06:52 The dates again are September 20 to October 5. 06:56 All the information is at the Prophecy Odyssey website. 07:02 That's simply Prophecy Odyssey. 07:04 15 new lessons. 07:05 Any church that's watching can participate and host the event. 07:10 Any home that gets 3ABN can log on whether it's live by TV or 07:16 internet. 07:17 They can host the event. 07:18 Everybody can do evangelism this fall. 07:21 I don't know why anybody would not want to. 07:24 Amen. 07:25 Thank you so much, Pastor Doug. 07:26 We're privileged to have this opportunity to partner together in 07:30 taking the gospel there to the world. 07:32 Excited about what the plans are and what's taking place. 07:35 Tell us, do you think evangelism is relevant still today? 07:39 We're in a secular society and some people say we don't need to be 07:43 preaching. 07:46 Why is it important to still do evangelistic series like this one? 07:51 You know, I've never found a time in history when people lose 07:53 interest in the living Word of God. 07:56 Jesus said the harvest is great. 07:58 The problem is not that there are no people out there to harvest. 08:01 The problem is that the laborers are few. 08:04 And that's why we're really praying that people out there will catch 08:08 the bug of evangelism. 08:10 There's nothing more exciting in my mind than seeing a soul go from 08:15 death to life, lost to found, sick to well, because of the power of 08:19 the gospel. 08:21 And, you know, Jill, one of the things we're doing, I forgot to 08:23 mention, and we're just appealing to people to take August 31 to make 08:29 it a special Sabbath where they will pray for the Prophecy Odyssey 08:33 event. 08:38 says unless the Lord builds the house, we labor in vain. 08:41 And we're inviting people to just put a little note on your phone, a 08:45 little reminder that'll beep. 08:47 And at one time during the day, for 20 days, from the 1st of September 08:52 until the 20th, take a moment, pray for the Prophecy Odyssey program. 08:58 They may fast and pray, fast a meal, do something. 09:02 But if God's people and everyone watching, if they will invest 09:06 prayer, I think the Lord is going to do things that we can't even 09:09 imagine. 09:11 Amen. 09:12 Pastor Doug, we've been, as we mentioned earlier, working together 09:15 for a long time. 09:17 And, Ivan, one thing I appreciate about Doug, many things, but one is 09:20 his vision. 09:21 He's never lost his vision. 09:23 I think we started working, showing his programs that he had produced 09:27 on 3AB in maybe late 80s. 09:29 I think, Doug, a long time, 35 plus years. 09:33 And the technology between then and now, who would have ever dreamed 09:38 it? 09:43 ministry. 09:49 NET series with Mark Finley and all, we brought 12 translators from 09:53 different countries. 09:54 And they did it right then. 09:56 But it's amazing technology. 09:58 But I think that's all the Lord is allowing us to this, because we're 10:02 lazy as human beings. 10:03 So he says, okay, I want to come back and I'm ready to do it. 10:07 And people are setting around. 10:08 But we don't have to now. 10:09 Now we can join hands with you. 10:11 We're going to be praying for you. 10:13 We're going to be praying that many, many people show up, 10:17 thousands of people there to help get this gospel of the kingdom into 10:20 all the world. 10:24 evangelism, that people need the Lord, it's right now. 10:27 More than ever before. 10:29 Never before in Earth's history has people been so mixed up. 10:32 A lot of them don't know the difference between a boy and a 10:34 girl, I always say. 10:35 You know, there's a kind of condition that we're in. 10:38 But thank you, Doug, and amazing facts for what you are doing. 10:42 We're praying with you. 10:43 We're supporting you in every way possible. 10:45 Amen. 10:49 And I know that you and your team there will also be keeping us in 10:52 prayer. 10:56 for most of the event helping with the series. 10:59 And so we're just really excited to work together again. 11:03 And thank you for your support of this and your participation in 11:07 prayers. 11:09 So Pastor Doug, if someone is not able to, say, participate in one 11:12 way or the other, but they're able to give, can they go to Prophecy 11:15 Odyssey as their way for them to donate and support this series? 11:19 Yes, I believe there is. 11:21 They can just go to the website. 11:22 Okay, very good. 11:23 And we appreciate that because New York is not cheap. 11:28 That's a good point. 11:29 Well, before we go, Shelley, why don't you pray for this series 11:31 that's coming, Pastor Doug. 11:32 Absolutely. 11:34 Our glorious Heavenly Father, we come before your throne of grace, 11:38 and we lift up, Doug, and the Amazing Facts team and all of the 11:43 volunteers. 11:45 And Lord, we lift this event. 11:47 We know it will bring glory to your name. 11:50 So we pray for the Prophecy Odyssey team, Lord, that you would command 11:56 your angels concerning them. 11:58 Just put a hedge of protection around them. 12:00 But we ask in Jesus' name for your anointing on this series. 12:06 We ask, Lord, that your Holy Spirit would go in advance to motivate 12:13 people to come out to this series, if nothing more than curiosity. 12:17 Let them come to hear. 12:19 But Lord, may they be convinced as they hear what the Spirit has to 12:24 say. 12:25 Lord, we pray many lives will be changed. 12:27 We know you're coming soon. 12:29 And thank you for the AI that can accelerate the distribution of 12:34 these programs. 12:35 We give you the honor, the glory, and our love. 12:39 In Christ, we pray. 12:41 Amen. 12:41 Amen. 12:42 Thank you, Pastor Doug. 12:43 God bless you. 12:44 Thank you everyone. 12:45 Thank you so much and God bless. 12:46 Thank you, Pastor. 12:49 I like what you said, Mr. Danny, as far as him not losing the vision. 12:52 He's very visionary. 12:54 And the same for 3ABN. 12:58 Here it is, November of this year, 40 years since you were impressed 13:02 of the Lord to start a station. 13:04 Here you are a carpenter and you said, OK, God, here I am. 13:07 Send me and look what 3ABN has become. 13:10 And praise the Lord for that. 13:11 And thank you for always having that vision even now. 13:15 And thank you for your mentorship of Jill and myself because I mean 13:17 it's key for a ministry such as Amazing Facts, such as 3ABN, to 13:21 keep that vision that God has given, right, and just keep running 13:23 with it. 13:27 deliver this message is changing. 13:29 Satellite, 10-foot dishes. 13:31 We still kind of, some of that's used, some of the broadcasts, most 13:33 of it now is internet and this AI stuff they're talking about with 13:37 languages, 3ABN is looking into the same stuff to be able to take this 13:40 message that reaches the world and put it into languages that will 13:43 reach even more people. 13:45 Just incredible times we live in. 13:47 What an exciting time to be alive, right, Dr. Yvonne? 13:49 I get so excited. 13:50 You're about to burst over there. 13:52 I get so excited when I hear that AI is being used to get the gospel 13:57 to the world because some people are really kind of afraid of AI. 14:01 There's a lot to be afraid of. 14:03 Well, there is. 14:03 No, there is. 14:08 just like anything else, it can be used for God's glory or it can be 14:12 used for the devil. 14:13 And this is, we're using it to get the Word to the world, just like 14:19 that. 14:23 necessarily you guys, the Adventists who had televisions when 14:27 their pastor come to visit, they would roll it in the closet and 14:30 shut the door. 14:32 Because, oh yeah, I know people who did that. 14:35 We were too poor to have a TV until I was a little older. 14:38 But I know people that we'd go visit and watch Gunsmoke or 14:42 something. 14:43 That is incredible. 14:44 But back then, television was a bad thing. 14:47 And yet, it's like we weren't taking advantage of it. 14:50 We wanted to look at it and say, it's bad. 14:52 So it seemed like sometimes Christians were always behind, 14:56 running behind everybody else. 14:58 In this case, no, it's available. 15:00 Let's use what's good. 15:02 Forget what's bad. 15:04 And so, as you were talking earlier, Doug is still, I'm going 15:07 to use the word succeeding and amazing facts in evangelism. 15:12 And so is 3ABN because we have learned, the one thing we've 15:16 learned is literally, the emphasis has to be, the whole mission has to 15:22 be evangelism. 15:23 It's on the message. 15:24 And the message can't change. 15:27 So the very message that the Lord gave us, that's in the Bible, that 15:31 we as a church started back in the 1840s, 50s, 60s, that message can't 15:36 change. 15:40 saying, well, no, I don't really think it means this anymore. 15:43 Well, we need to re-look at LGBTQ. 15:45 We need to re-look at abortion, all of these things. 15:49 And those, God won't bless that. 15:51 So, as long as we keep the message straight, it's not the messenger. 15:55 Doug's not important. 15:57 None of us here are important. 15:58 It's the message that's important. 16:00 And we have to keep, continue focusing on that message in a bit. 16:05 Speaking of that, we'll be talking about Shelly's book, who keeps 16:08 focused on the mission and message that the world needs to hear today. 16:12 I just have to say one thing. 16:14 I was, Jenny and I were interviewing someone the other day. 16:17 We were talking about legacy and how that is part of the Bible is 16:21 leaving legacy. 16:23 You've been on my mind constantly since that conversation. 16:26 The Bible says that God gives us all a measure of faith, but it also 16:31 says that one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit is faith. 16:35 And I believe with all of my heart that God gave you the gift of faith 16:40 because what you did, what God did through you, just answering the 16:46 call to do what you did, you're leaving, you know, the legacy. 16:51 It's God's legacy. 16:53 But it's like, I remember when you were having your heart surgery and 16:57 you said, I've got good people in place that can, you know, that are 17:01 handling this. 17:02 I'm ready to go if God's ready. 17:05 And I thought, what an amazing thing to think back on your life, 17:09 how God has worked through you is amazing, Danny. 17:13 It really is. 17:13 It's incredible. 17:14 I agree with Michelle. 17:16 Shortcomings that we all have. 17:18 So we're not saying that, but that's the beauty of it. 17:21 God's willing to use frail human agents. 17:23 And even though we mess up from time to time, we come back and 17:27 confess it to the Lord. 17:28 He'll continue. 17:29 He forgives and forgets, but he continues to bless. 17:32 And it is God because it was in my ignorance, human ignorance, that I 17:38 went forward because I found out only a little later that everybody 17:42 but me, you know, and my family, Kenny, whoever, everybody but us, 17:47 that it wouldn't work. 17:49 But it never occurred to me one time. 17:52 I can promise you it never occurred to me one time from the night 17:55 November 14th, 1984, when I got the impression I wanted you to build a 17:59 television station to reach the world with an undiluted Three 18:03 Angels messages, one that would counteract and counterfeit. 18:06 Never once did I ever doubt that that was going to happen. 18:09 I had no idea how, but now I look back and it's like I didn't even 18:14 worry about it, like I wasn't worried what was going on. 18:16 I would go to church. 18:17 I got cut off because Melody and me were singing. 18:21 Her mother had been killed in an automobile accident. 18:24 And right after I was impressed to build a station, I would up in 18:27 front start saying, the Lord's impressed us to build TV stations. 18:30 I remember Pastor literally in the back of the audience stand up going 18:34 like this. 18:35 And I said, either he's hot, his neck tight, his head down like 18:40 this. 18:44 break. 18:46 They took a break. 18:47 And so did an offering or whatever they were doing. 18:51 And so he said, look, don't be getting up here telling people 18:55 stuff like that. 18:56 And I said, like what? 18:57 He said, there's no way this is ever going to happen. 19:00 He said, I hate to bake you bad news, but I don't want my people 19:03 falling into line to something given, supporting, being confused. 19:07 Please stop telling people what you're going to be doing, build a 19:11 station, reach the world. 19:12 If it could be done, we'd already done it. 19:13 The media center would have done it. 19:15 And so even that, as I think back, it never discouraged me. 19:20 I just thought, what's wrong with him? 19:22 You were walking in your purpose and God had spoken to you. 19:27 The only time that I ever wondered, could understand why people 19:31 doubted, was several years ago, K Kuzma gave me a tape that at Big 19:36 Sky, Montana, in 1985, when they asked me, well it wasn't supposed 19:42 to, but it was raining and they had all these people and they were 19:45 supposed to go on ski lift rides at National ASI Convention. 19:50 Only probably 250 people at most at that time in ASI. 19:54 And because it was raining and what have you, they had people. 19:57 So finally they asked me, which they'd been hearing about my story, 20:02 from Rosella McAlpin and I told my young K Kuzma, they asked me, so I 20:08 got up and spoke for about 20 minutes, 30 minutes about what the 20:13 Lord impressed me to do. 20:14 She sent that to me 30 years later, what have you, and I listened to it 20:18 and I said, I wouldn't have given him a penny. 20:21 When I listened to that guy, that's ridiculous, you know, and just the 20:24 way I talked, the way I sounded, I was definitely a hick from the 20:27 sticks. 20:31 now. 20:34 And then just talk about, you know, what do you do, but we're going to 20:39 build a station to reach the world. 20:40 I literally, that's the first time I listened to it and I thought, and 20:43 people gave anyway. 20:45 It had to have been the Lord. 20:47 So what it is, is God allows, and that's my prayer every time I get 20:51 up. 20:54 and say, oh, that's not my calling. 20:57 Just say, Lord, let the people hear what you want them to hear, not 21:00 what I say. 21:02 And so other words, so I feel like I just get up and make an effort 21:05 and then God blesses. 21:07 If somebody wants to hear truth, they hear it. 21:08 If they don't, you can't make them hear it anyway, right? 21:12 They reject it anyway. 21:14 So no, it's a blessing. 21:16 And I think faith is a gift. 21:19 And in this case, it's a gift that hadn't, and I can honestly say, had 21:23 nothing to do with me. 21:25 Other words, it was the right time. 21:28 God knew He would be willing to go forward, and that's really all He 21:31 wants today, is you knowing that you're willing to go forward if He 21:36 calls you whatever He calls you to do. 21:38 And the blessing is on the go. 21:41 Every one of us here have the same God has called us to do something. 21:47 You from Texas, you guys from Virginia, originally the East, 21:51 Northeast, and so you from New York, and yet, and then all the 21:55 folk that are here from around the world, we have people from 21:58 different countries and then have studios and facilities in different 22:03 countries around the world. 22:05 And it's all people who's just said yes. 22:08 Amen. 22:09 But He said, go ye into all the world. 22:11 Amen. 22:15 raise up the ministry of 3ABN. 22:17 Speaking of people that God uses, Shelly Quinn, she is who I call the 22:21 Covenant Queen. 22:23 I think nobody has, this is Jill's opinion, but I don't think anybody 22:27 has as good a grasp of the covenant as you do. 22:33 God has led you on an intensive study from Genesis to Revelation, 22:37 finding that theme of righteousness by faith. 22:40 I know that we had sponsors who sponsored the printing of the first 22:46 run, you can say, of this book. 22:48 How many books did we print in the first run? 22:50 52,000. 22:51 52,000. 22:54 We were able to pass these books out for just the cost of the 22:58 shipping because the printing was sponsored, and those books are 23:02 almost completely out, and we are getting ready for printing number 23:05 two. 23:09 And the response, Shelly, has been incredible to this book. 23:12 It has, and I have to just say, if you don't understand covenant 23:18 relationship, the only way you can be saved is to be in covenant 23:22 relationship, to be made righteous by faith. 23:25 Wait a minute, I can't work myself into... 23:27 You can't work your way into it, but there is a series that we run 23:33 on 3ABN, and it's on YouTube and others, and it is, the series is 23:39 called Spotless, the everlasting covenant, and it's generally 23:43 speaking really close to the narrative of the book, but I have 23:48 to tell you, when you're talking about purpose for your life, I know 23:53 this was the purpose for my life. 23:55 I really do. 23:56 God gave me the book title five years before I sat down to write 24:02 it, and if you don't understand what the everlasting covenant is, 24:06 let me just kind of summarize it for you. 24:09 In Revelation 13 8, it says that Jesus is the lamb who was slain 24:16 from the foundation of the world. 24:18 In Hebrews 13 20, it says that his blood is the blood of the 24:23 everlasting covenant. 24:25 1 Peter 1, 18, and 19 says we are not saved with silver and gold and 24:31 those kind of things, but with the precious blood of Jesus Christ as a 24:37 lamb without spot or blemish, and the whole goal of the everlasting 24:43 covenant is summed up in 2 Corinthians 5, 21. 24:48 I call it the great exchange. 24:51 He made him who knew no sin to be sin for us that we might become the 24:58 righteousness of God in Christ Jesus. 25:00 This book will help people see, and boy I'll tell you, I give God all 25:07 the glory. 25:11 book, the Holy Spirit did, and I said, you're right. 25:14 It's all Bible. 25:15 There's no other, there's nothing else in here from commentators. 25:23 It's just paraphrased, but then there's plenty of other scriptures, 25:27 but all the references are in this. 25:30 The book is timely. 25:32 The reason it's timely, when you look at the condition of the 25:35 church, it's no accident, it was no accident the Lord called, we talked 25:39 about 3A being 1984, it's no accident, God called you to write 25:43 this book. 25:45 All you have to do is go and play like social media, Facebook, what 25:50 have you, you see Christian, fighting Christian, arguing over 25:54 Christian, arguing over politics, people talking about working 25:57 themselves into heaven, if you don't live like I do, you can't be 26:02 saved. 26:03 I've literally seen people on Facebook put, if you go to church 26:08 Sunday, you're not Christian, I mean really ridiculous stuff and 26:11 you think, these people think they're going to be saved because 26:14 they're keeping a day or what have you, they don't have that covenant 26:18 relationship. 26:20 The book has been that's what God has called you to do because she 26:23 and I, she can speak for herself, but we've been talking about the 26:28 same thing, the everlasting gospel, and she says, I've got a burden 26:31 that this is what I've got to be doing, we should be doing, and 26:36 we're so confused, the revelation says, and the whole world wandered 26:41 after the beast, it didn't say all, every whole world, but me and you, 26:46 or me and you, it says the whole world, so the devil is out to 26:50 deceive the whole world and so therefore right now, we can have 26:53 all the truth in the world, but if we don't have that covenant 26:56 relationship with Jesus, it's all in vain, in fact we're going to 27:00 turn people away from the gospel, away from the truth, thinking that 27:05 and we don't have that. 27:08 And the church is in a mess right now as I spoke about last camp 27:12 meeting. 27:14 Which means God's got a great work to do. 27:17 But Shelly, the book is just at the right time. 27:20 And that's why we're not only suggesting, but trying to do it at 27:24 3ABN every way we can do, including raise the finances so people don't 27:29 have to worry about buying it. 27:30 This is a thick book. 27:31 That's not a little like our little 48 page ones. 27:34 And this cost a lot of money, but it's life changing. 27:38 You know what? 27:43 there would be no liberals and there would be no legalist. 27:46 We would learn that we can't earn our way to heaven. 27:49 But also you learn that God, when we enter into covenant 27:54 relationship, he's the covenant maker and the covenant keeper. 27:58 But he calls us in and he expects us to be motivated by love to obey 28:06 him and walk in loyalty. 28:08 People are so afraid sometimes of the word grace, but it's because 28:13 some people make grace a license to sin. 28:16 Please understand, Jesus didn't die on the cross for you so that you 28:21 could live like the devil. 28:23 And when we see that righteousness by faith has always been the only 28:30 way God has saved people. 28:32 Because once you're unrighteous, you cannot make yourself righteous 28:36 again. 28:37 I mean, our righteousness is as filthy rags before the Lord. 28:42 I know you got some comments about it too since you read the book. 28:44 Oh, I do. 28:46 I do. 28:47 So we have been talking a lot about the gospel and the relationship. 28:53 It's not about rules. 28:55 There's so many people just hung up on rules. 28:58 It's not the rules. 29:00 The obedience is an outgrowth of the love that you have, the 29:05 appreciation for what Christ has done and the gospel. 29:11 We just have to know the true gospel, which is Jesus came as a 29:17 propitiation, as a substitute. 29:20 He is our substitute. 29:22 And so we have his righteousness. 29:24 We have no righteousness of our own. 29:28 None. 29:31 righteous. 29:32 No, we have no righteousness of our own. 29:34 It all comes from him. 29:37 And once we realize that and appreciate that, that's where the 29:44 obedience comes in. 29:46 Obedience is not legalism. 29:48 It's love. 29:49 Exactly. 29:50 That's what it's all about. 29:51 Some people think it is legalism, but it's not. 29:53 That's right. 29:54 It's not legalism. 29:55 It's love. 29:57 So anyway, I'm glad that God has patience with all of us because 30:01 I've been in what I talked about before. 30:03 I've been part of it. 30:05 I've been part of spiritual arrogance because you feel like you 30:08 have the truth and other people don't. 30:10 So sometimes we're not even kind about it. 30:13 And I've said in the past, well, I want to love them enough to tell 30:16 them the truth. 30:17 Well, I do want to do that. 30:18 But at the time I wasn't really didn't have that relationship that 30:21 I thought I had and see that I'm still growing every day. 30:26 So it's important that we understand who we are and who God 30:29 is and that what truth we have, we do give it in love. 30:34 And we understand it because people don't want to hear if I'm outside 30:38 on the street begging for funds and if somebody did, then nobody's 30:43 going to want me to come and tell them how to be a financial, you 30:46 know, financial with so people see us as we are. 30:52 They see us as we're out here on the side and legalists. 30:55 Well, oh, don't you can't whatever. 30:57 And then we want to tell you about a relationship with Jesus. 30:59 You know, you just name call me because I don't keep, I just met 31:04 just the other night. 31:05 We were somewhere. 31:09 there in St. Charles, Missouri, the first person in the gates. 31:12 We went and come over a big tall guy. 31:14 And he said, man, Danny Shelton, then in the bond was here. 31:18 He said, oh, I'm so glad to meet you guys. 31:19 I've been watching three ABN for a long time. 31:21 And he said, I'm still a Sunday keeper, but he said, I'm still a 31:25 Sunday keeper, but I love your prophecy programs. 31:27 And I'm what I said, praise the Lord. 31:29 We're brothers. 31:30 We're brothers in the Lord. 31:31 You know, can I say this? 31:33 When you were talking about that, that knowledge. 31:37 Oh, well, here's the point. 31:40 Pharisees had the knowledge here. 31:43 It was a little misconstrued, obviously, but it was not in their 31:47 heart to have that relationship. 31:49 And you know what? 31:50 The Pharisees were very exclusive. 31:52 God is, he just keeps bringing this back to me when I'm praying and 31:58 studying. 32:02 We're like walled in. 32:03 We've got all of these walled in denominations. 32:06 We're brothers. 32:13 church? 32:17 You may be a Methodist. 32:19 I'm your sister. 32:20 If you've got a relationship with Christ, I'm your sister. 32:24 We shouldn't be putting off. 32:27 We shouldn't be casting off. 32:28 You know, and by the way, God didn't call, he called us to be 32:33 fishers of men, not the cleaners of the fish. 32:35 Yeah, that's right. 32:37 Oh, that's good. 32:37 Okay, I'll shut up. 32:41 center is open tonight and you can sponsor the printing of this book. 32:47 We want to get a 40 foot container over, which is 54,600 books and the 32:54 cost is just under $2 a book. 32:56 So for just about $100,000, we can sponsor the next printing of this. 33:02 So you can call us right now at 618 -627-4651. 33:09 That's 618-627-4651. 33:13 The call center is open and you can say, yes, I want to help support 33:16 this project. 33:18 This message of righteousness by faith to go out around the world so 33:23 that people can order cases and they can send them out with just 33:28 the cost of shipping. 33:29 So right now we're seeking sponsorship for the printing of 33:33 this book for the second printing. 33:34 So you can call us or you can go online. 33:38 3ABN.TV. 33:39 That's 3ABN.TV and the fun code is 317. 33:45 It's spotless. 33:50 way as well. 33:51 And also checks. 33:55 in the memo line. 33:59 We'll put it directly toward the printing of the second edition. 34:02 And the second order is also the publisher took it upon themselves 34:08 to translate it into Spanish because they think this needs to go 34:12 all over the world. 34:13 So the second order will be a combination of Spanish books and 34:18 English books. 34:24 I'm bound at home. 34:25 I don't really have the health. 34:26 I can't go out door to door. 34:28 I can't go out and witnessing. 34:29 I can do whatever. 34:30 But you can. 34:31 You can help. 34:36 beautiful book that we give God the credit for that he used Shelly to 34:40 do. 34:41 But Lord the Holy Spirit. 34:42 He gets all the credit. 34:44 Absolutely. 34:45 So you can help. 34:46 And so we want you to pray and ask the Lord what he would have you to 34:50 do. 34:51 As you said, so we're looking at 54 ,000 books. 34:54 So they're under two dollars. 34:55 So ten dollars. 34:56 You've got nearly five of these. 34:58 A hundred dollars. 34:59 I mean, look at this. 35:03 and we've had it happen before. 35:05 It's why I say it may say, well, we'll give twenty five thousand. 35:07 We'll get half of that and you all raise the other. 35:10 So whatever or if it's ten dollars, five dollars, it still helps when 35:15 we put all those together. 35:16 Does this book has to continue to go out because what we need right 35:21 now in this church to take the gospel into all the world, if we 35:25 are indeed a remnant church, is we need to be able to to know who 35:30 we're trying to. 35:32 If we were in the secular market, we'd say who we're trying to sell. 35:36 So you've got to know your market. 35:37 Other words, who you're trying to reach. 35:39 People that need Jesus. 35:41 Well, if you don't have Jesus in your life and have a personal 35:44 relationship with him, then it's hard to convince somebody else 35:48 because they look at us and say, well, why would I want what you 35:51 have? 35:52 You know, not at all. 35:53 So this book will help us. 35:56 And I think we can separate as she said, you know, we've got 35:58 liberalism over here, legalism over here. 36:01 And so the devil doesn't care as we always say, which side of the boat 36:05 you fall out, as long as you fall out. 36:07 That's right. 36:07 And so this is helping us. 36:09 And so, Yvonne and me, we've been doing a lot of study ourselves 36:12 because we say we want to be. 36:15 We want to love people. 36:16 And so we had guests come here and and then people get upset and say, 36:21 oh, well, you had somebody on and they don't even believe it. 36:23 Exactly like I do or whatever. 36:25 And then they're really unkind to the people. 36:27 And it's like, you know, I don't get it. 36:30 But then the interesting thing is the people that they're saying 36:33 those things about are probably truer Christians. 36:36 And they are. 36:36 Yeah. 36:41 Go ahead. 36:42 No, I just feel like the message of righteousness by faith must be 36:47 preached. 36:48 It must be preached. 36:50 And the appreciation again of Jesus Christ must be. 36:54 I think that many people don't have assurance of salvation. 36:59 And so there it's always as am I going to be saved? 37:03 If we are in relationship with Christ, we can't be lost. 37:08 That's if we're in a relationship with him and we're following him, 37:12 we abide in him. 37:14 We can't nothing can pluck us from his hand. 37:17 And it's not complicated. 37:18 It just requires consistency. 37:21 That's a good point. 37:23 About 35, 40 years ago, I wrote a little song and didn't think much 37:28 about it. 37:29 It was titled I Am Saved. 37:30 It was a little kind of up tempo, a little fast. 37:33 I'm saved. 37:34 I went to some churches and people were upset. 37:36 They say you should not be saying that that you're, you know, 37:39 writing. 37:40 I am saved. 37:41 I'm saved. 37:45 way, as I said, well, the way I said I only have two choices. 37:49 So I asked them, I say, one preacher asked, I said, So are you 37:53 saved or you lost? 37:56 So you're either saved or lost. 37:58 I mean, if I write a song, you want me to write one says I'm lost. 38:01 I'm lost. 38:02 You want me to say one says it's one or the other. 38:06 So why can't I say that? 38:08 Well, you know, people get this false security that I said, we're 38:11 not talking about false security. 38:13 We're talking about relationship with the Lord. 38:15 So if Jesus comes, I'm either saved or lost. 38:18 So I can't just, there's no, I don't believe in purgatory where 38:21 we're hanging in between. 38:23 And I get it. 38:24 I understand. 38:28 I want to do. 38:32 about the security to know that Jesus shed His blood for us and 38:38 it's not in vain. 38:39 That's right. 38:43 we're saved not because of ourselves, but because of Him. 38:47 Could I, the scripture, first John 5 11. 38:50 This is the testimony that God has given us eternal life. 38:54 This life is in His son. 38:56 That's right. 38:57 Verse 12, He who has the son has life. 39:00 You have eternal life. 39:02 You're saved. 39:03 He who does not have the son does not have life. 39:06 That's why it's so important to be in relationship, to abide, to dwell 39:12 in Him. 39:12 It's not once saved always saved. 39:15 But as long as you're in relationship with God, you're 39:18 saved. 39:18 You're saved. 39:19 You know how freeing that is? 39:21 It's incredibly free because I was falling out on the legalistic side. 39:25 Right. 39:28 up your own righteousness with your own bootstraps. 39:30 And that's stressful. 39:32 So when you just submit, which can be kind of easier said than done, 39:36 but it's that daily moment by moment process of submitting to 39:39 Jesus Christ and say, my righteousness is as filthy rags 39:42 Lord, but it's your righteousness. 39:44 That I'm hanging on to. 39:45 You're the one that's changing me, not me changing myself. 39:49 So that's a huge freeing experience. 39:52 So yeah. 39:53 And I just want to say this too, because we just want to say thank 39:57 you for those of you that supported the first printing of this book, 40:00 because we want to read some of the responses because of what you have 40:03 done in sponsoring the first printing. 40:05 It's changing people's lives already. 40:07 And we want to share that with you because we want to encourage you 40:10 like, okay, the funds when you supported the first printing, it's 40:13 doing a work already in people's lives. 40:16 Only in eternity, Shelly, will we know the full impact of your book. 40:19 And of course, I'm so excited tonight because again, this is for 40:21 the second printing of Shelly's book, Spotless. 40:24 I'm excited about the Spanish version also being in this 40:27 container as well. 40:28 But should we read some of these responses? 40:30 If I can add to that, we do want to read these things. 40:34 We do want to read these. 40:35 But if I can add to that, the difference saying like the little 40:38 books we've written called The Truth About, The Truth About 40:40 Hellfire, The Truth About the Lord's Day, the difference in this, 40:44 these honestly need to go to every Adventist member of our church 40:49 worldwide. 40:53 happens to you when you die, so let's get these and let's 40:56 evangelize and get them out. 40:57 But right now, we need this. 41:00 Our people within Seventh Adventist Christians, Christians in general, 41:05 no matter what denomination you are, if we don't understand 41:09 righteousness by faith, we don't understand that everlasting 41:13 covenant that Shelly talks about so beautifully and easily where you 41:18 can understand it, that relationship, then the rest of it's 41:21 really in vain. 41:23 And so we're just leaving a facade and we're not so, this to me, 41:27 that's why it's so important. 41:28 And it's a whole different, this is, we need to, each one of us, I 41:33 think we within the church, before we pass these out to everybody you 41:37 can, but you have to understand we need this because I believe this 41:43 message will help bring about the latter rain because once we then, 41:48 and it's a shaking that's going to happen and we know that, we see it 41:51 already, but this is going to kind of be like the straw they say that 41:54 broke the camel's back. 41:59 what have I been, what are we preaching? 42:00 What are we teaching? 42:01 The message won't change, but our hearts will change. 42:04 And when they see Jesus in us, I, if I be lifted up from the earth, 42:08 we'll draw all men unto me, but they're not going to see that. 42:11 If I'm coming from a legalistic or liberal side over here, they're not 42:15 going to see it. 42:16 It's about relationship. 42:17 You read this book. 42:18 I know how much you love it. 42:19 Can you imagine that you're brand new to this teaching and it proves 42:23 it's from the Bible. 42:29 me. 42:30 This is truth. 42:32 This is truth. 42:33 In the next chapter, this is truth. 42:35 He's accepted all of the Bible doctrines that we hope to in all 28 42:39 fundamental beliefs are here. 42:41 Can you imagine reading this and walking into a church that was 42:46 legalistic? 42:47 Yeah. 42:49 We need this. 42:50 We need it. 42:51 We do. 42:53 Let's read. 42:55 This says my adult son left the Adventist church years ago when he 42:59 accepted the once saved, always saved message and started attending 43:01 a Sunday church. 43:02 I can no longer drive. 43:04 And for the past few years, he's been dropping me off at church each 43:07 Sabbath, but would not attend with me. 43:10 We debated once saved, always saved every week because I was worried 43:13 about his lifestyle. 43:15 I gave him a copy of spotless and he read it in just a couple of 43:18 days. 43:23 My son became convinced he had been following a twisted version of 43:27 scripture and has now returned to the Adventist church. 43:32 Praise God. 43:36 topic. 43:42 I came from that background of legalism. 43:45 I came from that background of am I good enough for God? 43:49 Can I try hard enough? 43:51 If I do enough, if I grit my teeth more, if I just try more, maybe 43:56 God's going to love me and accept me and save me in his kingdom. 44:00 Always worried about my salvation. 44:03 And when you understand, when you accept, when you internalize that 44:09 Jesus' blood on the cross was your perfect substitute and sacrifice 44:16 that you can accept it and receive it by faith and be clothed in his 44:21 righteousness. 44:22 It is revolutionary. 44:24 It changes your life. 44:25 It gives you freedom and joy and peace and happiness. 44:30 So Shelley, thank you. 44:31 Thank you for bringing that to so many people. 44:35 Glory to God. 44:36 This comes from Carolyn and she says spotless. 44:39 The book Spotless opened my understanding to see the Bible is 44:43 the story of the Messiah from Genesis to Revelation. 44:47 It's so simple to see in Shelley Quinn how Shelley Quinn distilled 44:51 the message from scripture. 44:53 It's the, and she has it here in quotes, this is what Carolyn wrote, 44:56 a Bible for dummies. 44:58 That's cute. 45:00 I now understand God is the same God of love in the Old Testament 45:04 and the New. 45:05 That's fantastic. 45:07 I also now believe the Holy Spirit is a person. 45:09 Praise the Lord. 45:14 scripture. 45:15 So Carolyn, her life has changed. 45:17 So praise God for that. 45:18 Dr. Yvonne, Mr. Danny, you have some as well. 45:21 The message of righteousness by faith, the heart and soul of 45:25 Adventism has become my heart and soul. 45:27 Books like Shelley Quinn Spotless continually lead me out of my own 45:32 mud puddle of self-righteousness into God's vast ocean of grace. 45:37 Without the gospel at the heart of this book, I would not know the 45:42 love, joy and peace of Christ. 45:45 How beautiful is that? 45:47 Because this book is teaching the gospel. 45:52 That's the gospel and that's what we should be sharing with the 45:56 world. 45:56 The gospel of Jesus Christ. 45:58 Good news. 46:04 the self-righteousness. 46:05 It's not about us. 46:08 It's all about him. 46:09 And once we take our eyes off of ourselves, and that's what you have 46:15 in here Shelley, and I love the summaries at the end of each 46:18 chapter because it kind of can take you back and kind of give you an 46:24 encapsulation of what the whole chapter was about. 46:28 This is a powerful tool. 46:31 This is a tool for people. 46:33 So thank you for letting the Lord use you to share this information 46:39 with us. 46:43 glasses. 46:50 So not really, but these just stick on your nose and they still work. 46:54 This one says... 46:56 They look good on you Mr. Danny. 46:59 That may be a little stretch. 47:01 And you actually have them so they can go in your cell phone case. 47:04 I do. 47:08 And so every now and then I forget to put them back in here too. 47:11 But so anyway, I got several pairs. 47:13 They're really cheap. 47:15 This says one spotless arrived. 47:16 I devoured its pages soaking in the beautiful truths of God's 47:20 righteousness and parted into us. 47:23 Shelley was used by the Holy Spirit to clearly articulate God's truth 47:28 in a masterful, easy to understand way. 47:31 In my opinion, this book is a must read. 47:34 They have it in dark print as a must read for every Christian who 47:38 seeks deeper understanding of the covenant of righteousness we have 47:42 by faith. 47:43 It will strengthen your faith in a profound way. 47:46 And that's somebody with a doctorate degree who is not a 47:50 Seventh -day Adventist. 47:51 It's so amazing to me. 47:53 I wish I knew your name. 47:55 If you're the pastor in Montana, somebody from the call center 47:59 called and said, or maybe they mean them. 48:02 I need to look these things up. 48:03 I'm not good about keeping it. 48:05 But they said, this pastor has ordered like four or five boxes. 48:09 He called to order another. 48:10 He gave them out to an academy and they studied and revival broke out 48:17 at the academy. 48:18 And one lady wrote and she said, you have written in a way and she, 48:23 we give God all the glory. 48:24 She did as well. 48:29 understand. 48:35 funny. 48:41 times. 48:43 Wow. 48:44 She reads it. 48:45 Then she went and read it through. 48:46 Then she goes through and she's looking up every scripture. 48:49 It's a deep study, but it's, but it's, if you just read it to get 48:55 the principle. 48:57 It just, it's, it's architectural. 49:00 And I've had a couple of pastors who tell me, boy, I'm getting all 49:04 of these little nuggets in Genesis. 49:08 And see what's so important about this. 49:10 If Jesus said to the Pharisees, if you believe the writings of Moses, 49:17 you'd believe me, my words. 49:19 But if you don't, you won't. 49:21 The writings of Moses in Genesis we get all of the covenant language 49:28 that helps identify who the person of Jesus Christ is. 49:34 And so it's just an incredible book. 49:38 It can be used for all denominations. 49:42 This is not, it's not disparaging or not even mentioning other 49:47 churches. 49:48 We need to all work together for the glory of God. 49:53 Amen. 49:59 That number again is 618-627-4651. 50:03 And you can help sponsor the second printing of this incredible work on 50:09 righteousness by faith. 50:10 We're going to print it in English and in Spanish. 50:13 So you can call us right now and say, yes, I want to get on board 50:17 and help support this evangelistic project that can change not only 50:21 those within the Seventh Adventist Church, but any denomination. 50:24 Or you can go online, 3ABN.TV. 50:29 That's 3ABN.TV. 50:31 And you just click on the spotless code, which is 317-317. 50:37 Or you can write a check and send it in the mail. 50:39 That's right. 50:40 P.O. 50:45 And just in the memo, put Shelly's book. 50:47 We'll know exactly what you mean. 50:49 Or just put Righteousness by Faith or Spotless book. 50:53 So any of those will work. 50:54 I wanted to say one more thing. 50:56 What I love about Spotless, there's churches who are using it for their 51:00 study in New Zealand. 51:01 The church that used it for their newcomers. 51:04 They had all the rest of the people joining them by Zoom. 51:07 And they just went through it because it's a Bible study. 51:11 And they said that their newcomers are more solid in understanding 51:15 everything. 51:17 But other churches and those people, you know, the same thing. 51:20 They said it, you know, Jesus said in Revelation 2-4, I have this 51:25 against you. 51:26 You've forgotten your first love. 51:28 We all end up there. 51:30 We all get distracted. 51:32 And this book helps bring you back to where it uplifts Jesus. 51:38 I mean, when I finished writing it, God was showing me all these 51:41 things. 51:45 Neither did I tell us. 51:46 Writing it, God was showing me. 51:48 But it will make you stand in holy wonder of your Savior. 51:56 Really, truly, it will. 51:58 And people are giving it out like in New Zealand. 52:01 They gave it out for Christmas presents. 52:03 And they've got people coming to the church, family and friends, who 52:08 were introduced to Jesus and now want to know about Jesus. 52:13 It's all about what He did for us and continues to do in Heaven. 52:20 Amen. 52:25 beginning. 52:28 And you've also said through the years, you said those that are part 52:31 of our 3ABN family are movers and shakers. 52:35 Get behind these projects that you've seen it over and over again. 52:38 Yeah, and we just ask people, as always, because we don't do any 52:42 begathons or praiseathons, but on certain projects, we just ask you 52:46 to pray and ask the Holy Spirit what He would have you to do in 52:51 this project. 52:55 And we're talking about the everlasting Gospel, but within the 52:58 church, because I see it, we see it constantly, especially some of the 53:04 sermons I've preached at camp meeting. 53:06 I'm amazed at how many people within the church get upset. 53:11 They don't talk about LGBTQ, don't talk about abortion, don't talk 53:15 about any of these things, and this is okay to do, this is all right. 53:19 And it's like a bunch of dos and don'ts, as you said earlier, 53:24 legalism or liberalism, and I always say lazyism. 53:28 Some of that is the problems within our church, but what we need to 53:31 focus on is Christ and His righteousness. 53:34 We understand the covenant relationship, and Shelly brings 53:38 this out beautifully. 53:43 it's not her. 53:44 That's why she's not in awe of herself. 53:46 She's in awe of her own writing, but she's in awe of what God is 53:51 willing to do through any of us. 53:52 We feel that way with books that we write or songs that we do. 53:56 There are songs that are written, and I said, I didn't even do that. 54:00 I don't even think that way. 54:02 I reread this book recently. 54:04 I wrote this in 10 weeks. 54:06 I can't believe I even wrote it. 54:08 But again, that's going back to being a vessel that can be used of 54:12 God. 54:15 vessel that was used of God to start the ministry of 3ABN. 54:18 God's using you too, Shelly. 54:19 You're mentioning to write this book. 54:21 To be a vessel, to be willing, like we talked about earlier. 54:25 That's the same with you at home. 54:26 God's calling you to do special things for Him too. 54:28 Just make yourself willing, and He will lead you. 54:31 Man, God can use us in miraculous ways if we just let Him do that. 54:35 We're talking about righteousness, talking about camp meeting. 54:38 I'm thinking about 3ABN Fall Homecoming Camp Meeting September 54:41 26th through the 28th and its revival of righteousness. 54:47 It fits perfectly. 54:49 We want to invite you to come on over, come on down, come on up, 54:52 wherever you are, to 3ABN's Fall Homecoming Camp Meeting right here 54:56 on 3ABN's campus. 54:58 We have a great lineup of speakers. 55:02 Of course we have our in-house speakers, but we have Pastor Mark 55:04 Finley, Pastor C.A. 55:06 Murray will be here as well. 55:07 Great music, great time of fellowship, wonderful meals, free 55:11 meals, that's right. 55:12 We have children's meetings, RV spots, still some available. 55:18 Great tenting spots as well. 55:20 We have a nice bath house for those of you that were here for the 55:23 summer camp meeting. 55:24 We had a few issues with showers. 55:25 We had so many people in tents, like 80. 55:28 Plus the people in the tents, so there's way more than 80 people in 55:31 the tents. 55:35 will accommodate that. 55:40 But we just want to invite you to come here to 3ABN, just a great 55:43 time again of fellowshiping, praising the Lord for what He is 55:46 doing. 55:50 That's revival of righteousness because then we can go back to our 55:52 local churches, communities, workplaces, and share the love of 55:55 Jesus with others. 55:56 Who are some of the speakers? 55:58 We have C.A. 56:00 Murray and Mark Finley are our guest speakers. 56:03 And then in-house, Ryan Day, Kenny, Jill, John Denzy, James Rafferty, 56:09 Danny, Shelley, and Sabbath School panel. 56:14 It will be wonderful. 56:15 It's going to be an exciting time. 56:16 Thank you all for being here, for being family. 56:19 What a privilege to serve in ministry together. 56:21 Oh, it is. 56:22 Love you all. 56:24 And I just want to quickly say thank you to those who sponsored 56:27 this in the past. 56:29 It's more your project than it is mine. 56:31 It's God's project. 56:32 It's God. 56:33 Praise the Lord. 56:35 We're going to have Pastor John and Angela Loma Kane with us and Jason 56:39 and Francine Bergman. 56:40 So it's going to be a wonderful time with more of our 3ABN family. 56:45 We're going to have an update from Gillette. 56:46 That's right. 56:47 We had a crew there. 56:49 The Pathfinder Campery in Gillette, Wyoming. 56:51 We're going to hear about that. 56:52 We're going to hear about ASI and what happened. 56:55 Our upcoming trip down under to Australia and New Zealand. 56:58 And so much more. 56:59 So stay with us for the second hour with your 3ABN family. |
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