[MUSIC] 00:00:00.26\00:00:04.90 [MUSIC] 00:00:04.90\00:00:09.74 >> Hello. Welcome back to the second. Now, if you're the 00:00:09.74\00:00:12.41 first now it felt like 10 minutes. Yeah, one so far and 00:00:12.41\00:00:15.78 because we have surely Peters in the house. So good to have 00:00:15.78\00:00:17.98 you here. Shiri. Thank, you know, and if you just joining 00:00:17.98\00:00:20.82 us, we're talking about the other side of trauma. The other 00:00:20.82\00:00:24.32 side of the brain life is celebrating the other side of 00:00:24.32\00:00:28.42 all that you have gone through. If you missed the first hour 00:00:28.42\00:00:31.19 and then I would encourage a maybe a few hours from now, 00:00:31.19\00:00:33.86 watch the repeat and then get it again on Sunday and then on 00:00:33.86\00:00:37.67 Tuesday. But Sherry just walked us through a valley. I mean, 00:00:37.67\00:00:41.37 you know, if you look at the 23rd Psalms, 00:00:41.37\00:00:43.81 >> your life will be the valley of the shadow of death. But let 00:00:43.81\00:00:46.24 me and that surely goodness and morning, OK, I'm glad that I'm 00:00:46.24\00:00:53.15 right that every day in my journal, yeah, surely goodness 00:00:53.15\00:00:55.98 and mercy will follow me all the days and I would do well in 00:00:55.98\00:00:59.05 the house of the Lord Forever. It Man, it's a powerful thing. 00:00:59.05\00:01:02.12 When I got to say one thing that you and it did for me. 00:01:02.12\00:01:05.49 So got open the door for ministry. 00:01:05.49\00:01:08.40 >> I've rescued been part of a team that rescued kids in 00:01:08.40\00:01:12.40 Thailand from the sex trade industry in Kenya from been 00:01:12.40\00:01:15.77 given clinic to muse and sold into marriage. And people have 00:01:15.77\00:01:18.71 felt like their life was over and they had no chance of 00:01:18.71\00:01:21.68 stepping in to their own life in their own skin and got is 00:01:21.68\00:01:25.15 just in Russia with heroin addict. I mean, we have been 00:01:25.15\00:01:28.15 all over the world with dealing with different traumas, but my 00:01:28.15\00:01:32.49 dad died when I was here at 3ABN one year. And I remember 00:01:32.49\00:01:37.66 not I had ended that relationship because I mean, 00:01:37.66\00:01:40.90 I've been molested by him since I was 3 months old. And and 00:01:40.90\00:01:45.57 that trauma was so amazing to me when I got pregnant myself 00:01:45.57\00:01:49.40 and had a little girl, I just thought I can never hand this 00:01:49.40\00:01:52.54 little girl over to and because he had not ever even told me, 00:01:52.54\00:01:56.81 you just said, yeah, I never said any of that. So I just 00:01:56.81\00:01:59.58 ended that relationship. And when I was here and I heard 00:01:59.58\00:02:02.28 that my dad had died, I just didn't know how did I didn't 00:02:02.28\00:02:06.79 know how to breathe, like I didn't know how to do do 00:02:06.79\00:02:09.19 anything. I didn't at first I was afraid that I wouldn't feel 00:02:09.19\00:02:12.19 anything. And then I couldn't stop crying. And and then 00:02:12.19\00:02:15.16 pretty soon. And I'm thinking who is that all? And pretty 00:02:15.16\00:02:20.04 soon, I hear that again. And who is that? And and and I 00:02:20.04\00:02:23.44 hear you say, John, 00:02:23.44\00:02:26.04 I'm sure you in 00:02:26.04\00:02:28.08 and I thought, yeah, but I'm not answering the door. That 00:02:28.08\00:02:30.01 means that. I want to talk to anybody. Haha, I remember just 00:02:30.01\00:02:33.82 thinking that I I I'm not I can't open the door. Yeah. 00:02:33.82\00:02:37.95 And you that you guys can go way, knock, knock, knock, 00:02:37.95\00:02:41.26 knock, knock. And then Andy, I heard and I thought I cannot I 00:02:41.26\00:02:45.09 don't I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how to 00:02:45.09\00:02:47.96 breed. And I don't know how to say goodbye to a dream that I 00:02:47.96\00:02:51.57 hope someday he would have said I'm sorry and someday we would 00:02:51.57\00:02:55.24 have been reconciled and someday and I thought I just 00:02:55.24\00:02:58.61 don't know what to do in this moment. And then pretty soon it 00:02:58.61\00:03:02.84 was clear that you're not going away. And I opened the door and 00:03:02.84\00:03:05.78 you shared by your story and your dad and and how you felt 00:03:05.78\00:03:09.32 when he passed. And I remember just feeling so connected like 00:03:09.32\00:03:13.89 I'm not alone in dealing with something like this. There are 00:03:13.89\00:03:17.79 people friends that I know that I love and you that have 00:03:17.79\00:03:23.37 experienced similar things. And I remember just being blast 00:03:23.37\00:03:26.94 and nurture. And so I want to say that that even funding 00:03:26.94\00:03:30.77 crisis, it's not the trauma end, but people will show up 00:03:30.77\00:03:35.71 and god will show up. And and you get to even the hardest of 00:03:35.71\00:03:39.28 times with he could read it. I mean, 00:03:39.28\00:03:42.65 >> the Mara police sent us to you at that moment because that 00:03:42.65\00:03:45.75 was my journey, meaning my dad at 13, 00:03:45.75\00:03:48.29 knowing him for 00:03:48.29\00:03:50.63 31 years was so at that time when he passed and the same 00:03:50.63\00:03:55.20 thing happened when he died, I didn't I never shed a tear or 00:03:55.20\00:03:57.63 even to this very day. Yeah, it was always. I was always hoping 00:03:57.63\00:04:00.47 that the story would be different and that was 00:04:00.47\00:04:02.70 different. So, you know, on that the one thing that came 00:04:02.70\00:04:06.14 encourage monogamy of access and I was set up Heineman, 00:04:06.14\00:04:09.34 Marlins haven't. And I'm just sitting there kind of going 00:04:09.34\00:04:11.41 through my emotions. And 00:04:11.41\00:04:13.05 and Dwight Nelson passed Detroit Nelson 00:04:13.05\00:04:17.92 Newitt Kenny said to me something, yeah. He was 00:04:17.92\00:04:21.29 preaching to his people had I told my testimony earlier. 00:04:21.29\00:04:24.99 Yeah, let's have a school like an early morning service and 00:04:24.99\00:04:27.76 you heard it. 00:04:27.76\00:04:28.83 Any point to me said, I want to tell you 00:04:28.83\00:04:31.33 if there's any way that the dog can save your father, he would 00:04:31.33\00:04:33.64 do it. So a lot about it. 00:04:33.64\00:04:36.94 And I remember that. So God sent me at that moment to that. 00:04:36.94\00:04:40.78 You know, my sister also she was she passed away, passed 00:04:40.78\00:04:44.55 away just not too long ago. So these these traumatic 00:04:44.55\00:04:47.65 moments in lives in our life is to help us understand the part 00:04:47.65\00:04:51.55 of God. I would say to people, you know, we we know that Jesus 00:04:51.55\00:04:54.46 about the 1, 2, month. 21, he'll say this people image on 00:04:54.46\00:04:58.09 what went on the lamb of God to take away this overall. 00:04:58.09\00:05:01.13 But to many of us don't know the Jesus of Isaiah 61 to mend 00:05:01.13\00:05:04.93 the broken hearted. I'm and set those who are bound. We are 00:05:04.93\00:05:08.57 free to claim that year of liberty to give beauty for 00:05:08.57\00:05:12.34 ashes. The thought of joy in place of the spirit of 00:05:12.34\00:05:16.14 mourning, the garment up race instead of the spirit of having 00:05:16.14\00:05:18.95 a sense that we don't know that caused so many of us don't talk 00:05:18.95\00:05:21.78 about that God. So that's why I'm committed in our church. 00:05:21.78\00:05:25.42 And I was a night every Wednesday urges people to 00:05:25.42\00:05:28.12 attack, you know, the doctrinal cod. 00:05:28.12\00:05:31.09 >> We don't know the cause, but even that I remember just 00:05:31.09\00:05:34.30 coming to God during that time and just saying why? 00:05:34.30\00:05:39.30 Why didn't you stop him? 00:05:39.30\00:05:41.30 >> I mean, if you are God, like what was up with that move with 00:05:41.30\00:05:44.47 them to do some real quick, just 5 us and all the singers. 00:05:44.47\00:05:47.84 I forgot to tell you that you have to open. If you have it, 00:05:47.84\00:05:51.88 watch the program first and then allow them to watch it 00:05:51.88\00:05:56.58 later. Just a little disclaimer. Yes. 00:05:56.58\00:05:59.15 >> So it's like, what can you do something? Why didn't you do 00:05:59.15\00:06:02.29 something? I was 3 months old when my grandmother one time 00:06:02.29\00:06:07.13 kind of just said to me that I'm like she caught my dad or 00:06:07.13\00:06:12.37 something, you know, is how I got a sense that the left 00:06:12.37\00:06:15.57 happened very, very early. Like I have no memories times 00:06:15.57\00:06:19.11 about 3 years old, but it happened very early. And so 00:06:19.11\00:06:22.41 I've got like, why didn't you do something? And I remember 00:06:22.41\00:06:24.78 through the Holy Spirit, God saying I tried to get your dad 00:06:24.78\00:06:29.05 to make other choices every single day, 00:06:29.05\00:06:31.92 every single day. And the only way I could have stopped it was 00:06:31.92\00:06:36.52 to kill him. 00:06:36.52\00:06:37.89 And if I killed everybody who send bite, there would not be a 00:06:37.89\00:06:41.56 person around. So we have free choice. So when people harm 00:06:41.56\00:06:44.83 each other when we harm each other, when we harm our 00:06:44.83\00:06:47.67 children, it's not the God is not Santa off as parents as 00:06:47.67\00:06:52.44 grandparents as 00:06:52.44\00:06:54.31 anybody is just please be kind. Please do with your own trauma 00:06:54.31\00:06:59.68 in your own stuff so that you're not injuring the people 00:06:59.68\00:07:01.88 around you. And he tried that with my dad and my dad was not 00:07:01.88\00:07:05.42 responsive. And I and and as children, we paid the price of 00:07:05.42\00:07:08.89 that. But I I don't think that that was the first time I 00:07:08.89\00:07:12.06 realized that this was not God's fault. The only in the 00:07:12.06\00:07:15.20 some party here in this story is God. That's right. 00:07:15.20\00:07:20.74 >> We're going to talk about something now that I am 00:07:20.74\00:07:23.81 that is is is something you've learned. And I want our 00:07:23.81\00:07:27.24 audience to just got one word 00:07:27.24\00:07:30.11 boundary calls boundary. That's important foundries 00:07:30.11\00:07:34.88 because some of you might be where she really was. Maybe you 00:07:34.88\00:07:39.89 there now and these questions, a phenomenal allow just one. 00:07:39.89\00:07:44.56 >> But you start out with this 100st. Let me look for somebody 00:07:44.56\00:07:47.76 just say what I've found is important. Yeah, but for some 00:07:47.76\00:07:50.70 who say that, 00:07:50.70\00:07:52.20 >> I came out of times, they came out of addiction. I threw 00:07:52.20\00:07:55.97 myself completely into ministry. And then to learning 00:07:55.97\00:07:59.21 about who got is and loving every moment of that loving 00:07:59.21\00:08:03.01 every single time. I got to go through the Bible every single 00:08:03.01\00:08:05.71 time. I got to hear somebody give us unlike you, John and in 00:08:05.71\00:08:09.38 your music helps to. But every single time that I got to hear 00:08:09.38\00:08:13.09 the word of God from other people, the first camp meeting 00:08:13.09\00:08:15.66 I went was like Doug Bachelor. And then, you know, Kenneth 00:08:15.66\00:08:18.86 Cox, you know, all those just incredible men and women, 00:08:18.86\00:08:22.63 Shelly is just showing plan is just amazing to from latest 00:08:22.63\00:08:26.84 book Hot list. Spotless is that all of that kind of stuff is 00:08:26.84\00:08:32.11 just amazing to me. But then now while I am slowing down 00:08:32.11\00:08:36.64 insane at looking at the trauma aspect of it and just 00:08:36.64\00:08:39.95 wondering, like, I don't even know like I I got hit with 00:08:39.95\00:08:44.29 something really hard. It was harder than anything I had 00:08:44.29\00:08:48.06 dealt with in my past and my 00:08:48.06\00:08:50.43 the first part of my life. So that just hinting at how 00:08:50.43\00:08:53.43 difficult that was the case. And a friend of mine said you 00:08:53.43\00:08:56.67 need to go to a recovery group. You need to get support around 00:08:56.67\00:09:00.84 you. And I said, but I'm not doing drugs. No recovery from 00:09:00.84\00:09:05.04 codependency recovery from the belief systems that you've held 00:09:05.04\00:09:09.34 through your trauma. And I'm like, what are you talking 00:09:09.34\00:09:12.51 about? And I knew somewhat of what they were talking because 00:09:12.51\00:09:15.08 I did psych nursing for 15 years, impatient and stuff. 00:09:15.08\00:09:18.29 But we're pretty ignorant in that realm of what happens to 00:09:18.29\00:09:22.46 us. 00:09:22.46\00:09:23.73 No chemically and what happens to our DNA and that that 00:09:23.73\00:09:27.30 genetics and all that kind of stuff. But so I step into this 00:09:27.30\00:09:30.40 recovery group, the step study and it break denial about my 00:09:30.40\00:09:35.40 co-dependency in my co-dependency. My daughter said 00:09:35.40\00:09:38.67 to me one time you are a liar and I thought of that's one 00:09:38.67\00:09:43.28 thing. I'm not, you know, like and knowing I am not. And she 00:09:43.28\00:09:47.82 said you never honestly show up. You never honestly say what 00:09:47.82\00:09:51.52 you feel. You never come in. And if I say something new will 00:09:51.52\00:09:55.82 appease me, you will make me feel better. But you also had 00:09:55.82\00:09:59.73 disagree with all right. You are just very careful. 00:09:59.73\00:10:03.57 And in that you've lied every day of my life. And I remember 00:10:03.57\00:10:08.57 taking that to God and saying, God, I can you believe she said 00:10:08.57\00:10:11.94 that he's like, well, you know, and so when we show up and 00:10:11.94\00:10:17.68 we're not setting boundaries and we're not even see, I'm 00:10:17.68\00:10:20.85 showing up and being honest with what we feel in who we are 00:10:20.85\00:10:24.29 and all of that kind of stuff that we are so damaging 00:10:24.29\00:10:27.66 ourselves further. I tried going into trauma further and 00:10:27.66\00:10:31.63 we're not showing up. So there's nothing tangible for 00:10:31.63\00:10:34.20 someone to hold on to. And so when I started to go through 00:10:34.20\00:10:37.73 that, I just wept and wept and wept. And I said, am I a liar 00:10:37.73\00:10:44.41 and God, can you heal me? And he absolutely said, yes. 00:10:44.41\00:10:49.28 I mean, he is he the same response is, look, can I show 00:10:49.28\00:10:52.81 you who I see when I look at you as I see a woman of God. 00:10:52.81\00:10:56.32 And this is just part of the journey interest me in this 00:10:56.32\00:10:59.05 part of the journey. And so I remember going into the program 00:10:59.05\00:11:02.79 and going through the powerlessness got is the only 00:11:02.79\00:11:05.49 one that can be stormy to sanity going through with what 00:11:05.49\00:11:08.80 do I surrender to so that I can I can allow you to do that. 00:11:08.80\00:11:13.03 And and and then making amends. And so I had to make amends to 00:11:13.03\00:11:17.31 my daughter for lying to her her whole life, 00:11:17.31\00:11:21.44 to making it making everyone else feel good, but never 00:11:21.44\00:11:24.78 showing up as her mom never showing up as myself. So when I 00:11:24.78\00:11:28.45 talk about boundaries and when I talk about the gift that we 00:11:28.45\00:11:32.65 give to each other and recovery it, you can't put up price on 00:11:32.65\00:11:36.52 that. Same himself knows that if you step out of your trauma 00:11:36.52\00:11:40.33 and step into your own skin and got eclipse that person, 00:11:40.33\00:11:44.23 you can change the world. But if you don't do that, 00:11:44.23\00:11:46.90 you would injure everybody around too. 00:11:46.90\00:11:48.87 >> Sherry, Wow, I mean, you know, honey, on my talk a 00:11:48.87\00:11:52.44 little volcano, right? Yeah, I can't take that. Take the cap 00:11:52.44\00:11:57.15 off this. So vitally important. I try to communicate to people 00:11:57.15\00:12:00.08 this in my life knows this guy. We've been on personal journey 00:12:00.08\00:12:03.45 to has been just minimal his size and strength to the 00:12:03.45\00:12:06.52 marriage ministry. My and I walk with each other and we've 00:12:06.52\00:12:11.03 told couples if you can appeal to Lee, deadly honest with each 00:12:11.03\00:12:14.86 other, it's you know, there is still days when we have that 00:12:14.86\00:12:17.70 hiccup, like I want to hear that that's his humanity. 00:12:17.70\00:12:20.97 But if you cannot give the other person's delivery to be 00:12:20.97\00:12:23.84 open and honest and deadly honest with you and you, 00:12:23.84\00:12:26.47 you, you hear what they're saying. 00:12:26.47\00:12:29.51 How many times have you tell me? I'm not listening to you. 00:12:29.51\00:12:31.95 And I and I want to she told me that in the garage, she said 00:12:31.95\00:12:35.25 you're not listening in 00:12:35.25\00:12:37.42 and I put the groceries down on the garage flock and stay for 00:12:37.42\00:12:40.09 45 minutes. Say that said, talk to me. Yeah. They must mean the 00:12:40.09\00:12:44.36 caucus talked not Lee. She said the cross that I don't care 00:12:44.36\00:12:47.76 about the dress is not just when he came. And that was a 00:12:47.76\00:12:50.50 turning point in all America. To just talk to me. A lot of 00:12:50.50\00:12:53.90 couples watching the program. 00:12:53.90\00:12:56.44 I don't know how to do that. They were they fail to realize 00:12:56.44\00:12:59.34 that, you know, storms do one thing for you 00:12:59.34\00:13:02.48 and not just pretty quickly get back to them. The worst 00:13:02.48\00:13:04.98 rainstorm we have had on our way to Miami. 00:13:04.98\00:13:07.55 That's the cleanest free car wash. We have. Yeah. Got put 00:13:07.55\00:13:10.82 you in storms to clean you up. Yeah. And he allows those 00:13:10.82\00:13:13.62 storms and then you realize why boundaries, unnecessary long 00:13:13.62\00:13:17.33 lead into this with a very important question. 00:13:17.33\00:13:19.39 >> Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait on the list goes on. 00:13:19.39\00:13:21.73 No, no, wait. Because that what you open on me is the analogy 00:13:21.73\00:13:26.17 that God gave me was kind of a storm analogy. It said that 00:13:26.17\00:13:29.87 literally when I step into my recovery and when I stop doing 00:13:29.87\00:13:33.68 whatever it is, religious addictions, drugs, alcohol, 00:13:33.68\00:13:36.51 gambling, whatever the addiction is, that made me feel 00:13:36.51\00:13:40.52 better at the moment when I step out of that porn 00:13:40.52\00:13:44.39 addictions, that kind of thing when I step out of that is that 00:13:44.39\00:13:47.69 now I'm ready to step into my life. But it's as if a tornado 00:13:47.69\00:13:51.43 just went through and everything is destroyed in. 00:13:51.43\00:13:54.60 So it looks overwhelming. I mean, overwhelming. Like, 00:13:54.60\00:13:58.33 where do I even start? My the house is destroyed. The whole 00:13:58.33\00:14:01.70 neighborhood is destroyed. All of that kind of stuff and 00:14:01.70\00:14:04.21 got to start out with just sorting out. Mike, what do you 00:14:04.21\00:14:07.18 get? Is there anything salvageable? Is there anything 00:14:07.18\00:14:09.24 that you can to keep? Is there anything that you need? And 00:14:09.24\00:14:12.15 then once you clean that up and that takes a while, then you 00:14:12.15\00:14:15.32 can get some skilled craftsman that will literally start doing 00:14:15.32\00:14:19.75 foundation working and putting the wall's backup. There's a 00:14:19.75\00:14:22.79 scene in them are a group out in New Zealand that says it. 00:14:22.79\00:14:27.00 You know, there's all the sides of the House matter like that. 00:14:27.00\00:14:30.53 You can't just do one side and expect the whole thing to 00:14:30.53\00:14:33.03 censor the the clearing that whole thing out is literally 00:14:33.03\00:14:36.81 restoration. What does that mean and who is going to be 00:14:36.81\00:14:39.94 gathered around you to help you put the building back together 00:14:39.94\00:14:43.91 and then are you going to put the building back together 00:14:43.91\00:14:45.95 exactly the same now now, because why would you when God 00:14:45.95\00:14:54.56 says restoration, he's saying that that we think that when we 00:14:54.56\00:15:00.10 work with somebody that we're going to work with them and 00:15:00.10\00:15:02.23 just clean him up, we're going to stop their drink, you know, 00:15:02.23\00:15:04.63 whatever in God. So if you stop their shame on you, shame on 00:15:04.63\00:15:09.50 you because this person, this man, a woman of God, has no 00:15:09.50\00:15:13.31 idea the value. There's a song that says when the slave awakes 00:15:13.31\00:15:16.44 to the value of their own soul, that's what God is trying to do 00:15:16.44\00:15:20.65 is like not just clean this up. He knows that we have held on 00:15:20.65\00:15:24.69 to whatever he's got us to survive the day and it was a 00:15:24.69\00:15:28.06 lie from the enemy himself and never helped us survive 00:15:28.06\00:15:30.63 anything in the sun. Now, let me help you with a full 00:15:30.63\00:15:33.50 restoration of all of that. And that's where I got into the 00:15:33.50\00:15:37.67 whole thing about stepping into what is trauma work look like? 00:15:37.67\00:15:42.17 What is grief work? Look like what happened to my my body and 00:15:42.17\00:15:45.97 my mind and maybe even my DNA be because of all this trauma. 00:15:45.97\00:15:50.91 And he's got bigger than that. 00:15:50.91\00:15:52.61 >> OK, so now the boundaries had to be put in place because 00:15:52.61\00:15:55.72 you know what? In rebuilding a new house boundaries to that 00:15:55.72\00:16:00.09 within the height and depth of the lost everything, his 00:16:00.09\00:16:02.16 boundaries, 00:16:02.16\00:16:03.89 the house is not a house unless all the boundaries, not 00:16:03.89\00:16:07.20 complete. So that's that's one of these questions here. 00:16:07.20\00:16:09.90 >> Honey, I love you. Love you. Ask for that first, OK, 00:16:09.90\00:16:13.23 alright, this is about boundaries. Because sometimes 00:16:13.23\00:16:15.60 you feel like your life is out of control. How am I going to 00:16:15.60\00:16:18.31 handle this year? So what happens when you feel like you 00:16:18.31\00:16:20.98 have to say yes to everyone's requests and what's really have 00:16:20.98\00:16:25.01 to go through that? So, yeah, what's really interesting about 00:16:25.01\00:16:27.68 feeling like you have to say yes to every request is for me. 00:16:27.68\00:16:30.95 I was so desperate to be liked that I thought saying yes, 00:16:30.95\00:16:35.36 would act Lee cause those relationships to be powerful in 00:16:35.36\00:16:40.96 our connections to be from a powerful. But it just made me 00:16:40.96\00:16:44.07 look like a liar, even my child, so that in. So so if if 00:16:44.07\00:16:48.34 I have to say to myself, somebody asked me something. 00:16:48.34\00:16:51.57 And I have to say to myself, I want to do that, 00:16:51.57\00:16:56.81 but I don't die. And then and to have that money or don't 00:16:56.81\00:17:00.28 tire or do I have that time or don't I and I honestly say no 00:17:00.28\00:17:04.82 with somebody like 00:17:04.82\00:17:06.72 me and my history, it can throw me into what's called emotional 00:17:06.72\00:17:10.43 dysregulation. I can dysregulated I can start to 00:17:10.43\00:17:13.83 spend. I can literally tell myself if you say no, they're 00:17:13.83\00:17:17.27 not going to like you. And and when you talk about this 00:17:17.27\00:17:19.87 regulation, a lot of people think that that's an emotional 00:17:19.87\00:17:22.74 response to sending the boundary. It is not it's a 00:17:22.74\00:17:25.87 neurological response. It's far bigger than our emotional 00:17:25.87\00:17:29.38 response. And our spin actually has all kinds of chemicals 00:17:29.38\00:17:34.22 around it. So we ocean respond. If you tested mice alive at 00:17:34.22\00:17:37.99 that moment, you would find all kinds of cortisol. You would 00:17:37.99\00:17:40.29 find all kinds of stuff that is not healthy to me. On any 00:17:40.29\00:17:43.49 level. If you take my blood pressure, if you take my pulse, 00:17:43.49\00:17:46.70 it would be jacked up. My heart would be racing all of that 00:17:46.70\00:17:49.90 kind of stuff. And it's not anything that you caused by 00:17:49.90\00:17:53.57 asking me that it's not anything I caused by. I'm 00:17:53.57\00:17:56.94 feeling stressed. It's something that was just 00:17:56.94\00:17:59.27 ingrained in me from childhood for years and years and years 00:17:59.27\00:18:03.18 of that dysregulation. If I wrote something at that moment, 00:18:03.18\00:18:07.42 my handwriting would look different when you want to see 00:18:07.42\00:18:10.49 if you emotionally dysregulated just write something and you 00:18:10.49\00:18:13.76 will say, well, you know, if I was telling on your body is 00:18:13.76\00:18:16.79 telling us that the lion. So and so when you actually say 00:18:16.79\00:18:20.70 to yourself, OK, how do I learn to set boundaries? Because it's 00:18:20.70\00:18:24.60 a learned response and how I learned to take care of myself 00:18:24.60\00:18:28.34 and start slow cause nobody around you. If you pick people 00:18:28.34\00:18:31.77 around you that and respond to you showing up 00:18:31.77\00:18:34.78 as a liar, we are showing up and not in your own skin. 00:18:34.78\00:18:38.58 You showing up in just people pleasing everybody. The people 00:18:38.58\00:18:41.78 that are around you are not going to be as healthy and 00:18:41.78\00:18:44.79 they're not going to want you to set any boundaries because 00:18:44.79\00:18:46.96 it doesn't work for them. 00:18:46.96\00:18:48.16 >> Sherry, you just have something so powerful. And and 00:18:48.16\00:18:50.53 you know, I'm a camel the now I'm I'm older than I was last 00:18:50.53\00:18:53.66 year. That's just leave it there. 00:18:53.66\00:18:55.20 But here's the thing that a lot of people don't realize. 00:18:55.20\00:18:57.63 This is huge. This boundary. So vitally important because 00:18:57.63\00:19:00.24 some people that they play the stories now watches between the 00:19:00.24\00:19:03.71 question and your answer. You have taken you have 00:19:03.71\00:19:07.08 literally as quickly as your brain works 00:19:07.08\00:19:10.21 cycle analyzed. What will happen if that person here is a 00:19:10.21\00:19:14.25 no from you or if they hear? Yes, when you and the more 00:19:14.25\00:19:17.19 people in that circle, the more people you have cycle analyzed 00:19:17.19\00:19:20.66 and you come down to the place where you realize if I don't 00:19:20.66\00:19:23.69 say what all these people want to hear, 00:19:23.69\00:19:26.70 they won't like me buy it 00:19:26.70\00:19:29.03 so I can do that. And people that live their lives to be 00:19:29.03\00:19:32.37 light are in jail. 00:19:32.37\00:19:34.74 Absolutely. So I've told that I've told this to my 00:19:34.74\00:19:37.24 congregation. I say I'm no longer preach sermons to be 00:19:37.24\00:19:40.74 liked and then I no longer need to hear. That was a good 00:19:40.74\00:19:44.48 message. I just want to know why do cause? Well, because 00:19:44.48\00:19:47.88 somebody asked me on the couple years ago, I U he's staying out 00:19:47.88\00:19:51.72 of trouble. I said no wash washed. I geez, this is haha. 00:19:51.72\00:19:55.92 I was always in trouble. 00:19:55.92\00:19:57.53 And unlike was said by the former senator that passed when 00:19:57.53\00:20:00.96 Congress he says up, 00:20:00.96\00:20:02.76 if you in trouble being good while it was being honest, 00:20:02.76\00:20:06.10 yeah. For being who you are called to be the sole saying 00:20:06.10\00:20:09.97 yes, saying no. 00:20:09.97\00:20:12.77 He's just say yes. 00:20:12.77\00:20:14.38 When yes is the right answer 00:20:14.38\00:20:16.75 and no one knows it is dry. 00:20:16.75\00:20:19.35 >> What I didn't know when I started to set boundaries is 00:20:19.35\00:20:22.88 that you will lose a lot of people around you. And and that 00:20:22.88\00:20:26.32 was really difficult to me because I never had anyone. 00:20:26.32\00:20:29.59 I'm in my circle. And you know, and so now that I have a circle 00:20:29.59\00:20:34.30 that I created with this lie and and now I'm gonna have to 00:20:34.30\00:20:38.63 and I don't have to say no to everything because I don't want 00:20:38.63\00:20:40.67 to say no to everything. But but when you start saying 00:20:40.67\00:20:43.24 no, they said you lose 80 to 90% of the people that you have 00:20:43.24\00:20:46.84 put in her article and to me, I thought, oh, no, the kid in me 00:20:46.84\00:20:50.71 can't stand that. There was so wrong reasons. Yeah, they were 00:20:50.71\00:20:53.78 there for the wrong reason. And their agenda is not because 00:20:53.78\00:20:57.59 they choose you is because you work for them. And so so 00:20:57.59\00:21:01.66 literally being able to say is that that I need people around 00:21:01.66\00:21:05.43 me and that when we see we wrote a program here when we 00:21:05.43\00:21:08.63 did celebrating life in recovery a 14 week program to 00:21:08.63\00:21:11.43 help you connect with others. And so literally put people 00:21:11.43\00:21:14.87 around you that you can connect honestly with that is going to 00:21:14.87\00:21:18.37 reaffirm your 00:21:18.37\00:21:20.14 person. Hood. Yes. Used to be with you. Laugh with you. 00:21:20.14\00:21:24.75 I have people that I go out paddle boarding with in 00:21:24.75\00:21:27.75 kayaking with and spending the weekend with and and to win. 00:21:27.75\00:21:31.22 I have to do a hard discussion or have that hard conversation 00:21:31.22\00:21:35.02 in set boundaries. I will call the people that I love and say 00:21:35.02\00:21:38.66 this is difficult for me and they'll process out. What are 00:21:38.66\00:21:41.80 you afraid of what's happening? And when I do said a boundary 00:21:41.80\00:21:45.33 is I I don't set a boundary lightly, but I set boundaries 00:21:45.33\00:21:48.44 when I need to and I show up authentically as myself. 00:21:48.44\00:21:52.64 And you know what I found out this is so weird and please 00:21:52.64\00:21:55.11 don't take this in a way that is anyway. But what I'm trying 00:21:55.11\00:21:59.28 to say, yes, I like who I am when I show up. Yeah, I've not 00:21:59.28\00:22:03.85 done that. We I'd like who am I show up and I feel solid. 00:22:03.85\00:22:08.46 I I feel like I don't have to prove anything until I can 00:22:08.46\00:22:11.49 fully see you and be concerned about you. I can laugh at your 00:22:11.49\00:22:15.30 successes and your your journey and I can just enjoy all of 00:22:15.30\00:22:19.07 that because I'm not trying to do anything. Can I'm just 00:22:19.07\00:22:22.17 allowing my friends to show up in me to show up to your 00:22:22.17\00:22:25.74 readers. Funny. Yeah, 20 said on this faithful, all the 00:22:25.74\00:22:29.68 wounds of of friend, but the cases of an enemy on deceitful. 00:22:29.68\00:22:34.45 And that's what we're talking about. And that's exactly 00:22:34.45\00:22:36.52 right. And Jeanne, I like when somebody tells me the truth, 00:22:36.52\00:22:39.89 you have something it he's not just that. You tell me about 00:22:39.89\00:22:43.69 it. 00:22:43.69\00:22:44.99 Yeah, go ahead of time. And what I've got to say and is 00:22:44.99\00:22:47.56 that that's so powerful and into may have known you for a 00:22:47.56\00:22:51.17 long time and you are amazing to hang our hat. So it is it is 00:22:51.17\00:22:55.50 very interesting to hang out with you. But when we hang out 00:22:55.50\00:22:59.47 with each other and we hang out with each other and we forget, 00:22:59.47\00:23:03.68 we forget, let God help you to just show up, right? Don't have 00:23:03.68\00:23:08.08 an agenda. Just show up next in if I say something to you like, 00:23:08.08\00:23:11.59 you know, like and yeah, I'm going over to Europe and I'm 00:23:11.59\00:23:16.36 going to do in our program over there which I am in May how to 00:23:16.36\00:23:19.66 do in our program over there. Would you come with me? Sure. 00:23:19.66\00:23:25.13 Let's go. Oh, yeah. We said you couldn't. You would say what 00:23:25.13\00:23:30.57 are the dates might? How much is it and you say she that's 00:23:30.57\00:23:34.58 ridiculous. I can't do that. And we could laugh a bit of 00:23:34.58\00:23:37.71 coal mine and I go all the day's over right? To be honest 00:23:37.71\00:23:40.88 about to be okay. Now that another one, Nashua. 00:23:40.88\00:23:43.85 >> These these are questions that you need to do an entire 00:23:43.85\00:23:46.19 seminar at a church for just these questions here. But here 00:23:46.19\00:23:48.42 he's he's he's at that time. Do you find yourself are 00:23:48.42\00:23:52.33 readily taking responsibility for others, feelings and 00:23:52.33\00:23:55.80 problems this people out there that do? 00:23:55.80\00:23:58.57 >> Isn't that it's hard. It's but I if I wish we could 00:23:58.57\00:24:02.47 just say to anybody watching the program might now raise 00:24:02.47\00:24:05.57 your hand hands all over the world to try it. Because do you 00:24:05.57\00:24:10.48 find yourself? Not only will I make sure that my answer 00:24:10.48\00:24:13.98 doesn't cause you any stress, but I will take responsibility 00:24:13.98\00:24:17.49 for anything. You feel about that and it's not mine to take. 00:24:17.49\00:24:21.96 If you turn around and you say something poor about because of 00:24:21.96\00:24:25.43 the boundary. I said that's not even mine. My responsibility. 00:24:25.43\00:24:29.10 It's none of my business. What you say. It doesn't change 00:24:29.10\00:24:32.17 a thing about who I am. And I used to take full 00:24:32.17\00:24:34.94 responsibility for all of that. Right? And that's a horrible 00:24:34.94\00:24:38.51 way to live in. It's exhausting and I can't show up 00:24:38.51\00:24:42.51 authentically ever. And so being able to convince somebody 00:24:42.51\00:24:46.35 that for one, you can't be responsible. If I say something 00:24:46.35\00:24:50.05 that I need to say to you, because every time you borrow 00:24:50.05\00:24:52.89 my car, you bring it back with no gas. And I just I'm so 00:24:52.89\00:24:56.99 resentful about that until next Uber. And I don't mind because 00:24:56.99\00:25:00.40 I love you. You are my friend. But fill it up, right? Yeah, 00:25:00.40\00:25:04.27 he's just saying. So if someone says never borrow your car 00:25:04.27\00:25:07.67 again, then then that she all right. But you but Co dependent 00:25:07.67\00:25:11.74 will say no, no, I'm sorry, let me fix it. And they'll back 00:25:11.74\00:25:15.71 paddle that but don't back pedal. It did be honest with 00:25:15.71\00:25:19.01 some buddies and make sure you be honest with something in 00:25:19.01\00:25:21.85 front of that. You know that I love you. You know that you are 00:25:21.85\00:25:25.12 my fries and I don't mind any of this. But what I do resent 00:25:25.12\00:25:28.72 is having to then go to the gas station. So it's like being 00:25:28.72\00:25:32.06 able to be 00:25:32.06\00:25:34.46 confront a in a way that honest and still value the 00:25:34.46\00:25:39.03 friendships. If that person says, you know what, I'm 00:25:39.03\00:25:42.27 offended by what you said and I do want to be a friend anymore. 00:25:42.27\00:25:45.54 You have to say, OK, and you have to then grieve, et. 00:25:45.54\00:25:49.04 I can say, OK, pretend it didn't hurt. I can walk into 00:25:49.04\00:25:52.11 the other room and cry like a baby and I should because 00:25:52.11\00:25:55.62 losing friends for whatever reason this ad. But I can't not 00:25:55.62\00:26:00.19 say it. 00:26:00.19\00:26:01.66 >> Because it changes who I am in a way that I'm not willing 00:26:01.66\00:26:03.59 to do anymore. Thank you for saying that street because a 00:26:03.59\00:26:05.89 lot of people say what are the people want to hear? Because 00:26:05.89\00:26:09.93 they have some kind of I think you said earlier, people 00:26:09.93\00:26:13.67 placing quality, but it's not a quality. It's a it's what I 00:26:13.67\00:26:17.64 call. It's it's incarceration, hale and hearty waited because 00:26:17.64\00:26:22.74 they have not met themselves yet human and until they and 00:26:22.74\00:26:25.65 they're afraid to meet themselves, right. So the worst 00:26:25.65\00:26:29.18 thing is to have 5 people that have different 5 different 00:26:29.18\00:26:31.65 opinions and you in the middle and have to be responsible for 00:26:31.65\00:26:34.39 everybody else's feelings. It gets overwhelming. You just 00:26:34.39\00:26:37.23 you can't deal with that situation. That's the next 00:26:37.23\00:26:39.43 question because so much here. 00:26:39.43\00:26:41.86 >> All the fine. Just so fun. I guess that this harm this one 00:26:41.86\00:26:45.40 have you have to be focused on so much being loving and 00:26:45.40\00:26:49.57 unselfish, 00:26:49.57\00:26:51.01 but you forgotten you don't limit limitations rule. 00:26:51.01\00:26:57.21 >> You know you I can tell by the look on your face and you 00:26:57.21\00:27:00.38 and I can talk about that for all types salute Lee, so have I 00:27:00.38\00:27:04.09 I forgot my own limitations. Have I forgot my own value? 00:27:04.09\00:27:08.99 Have I 00:27:08.99\00:27:10.29 maybe even never understood that. Never explored it. 00:27:10.29\00:27:13.63 And so I think even as we going to set boundaries as we going 00:27:13.63\00:27:16.77 to do that kind of journey is a reason you do it with other 00:27:16.77\00:27:20.27 people like we would never meant to do any of this by 00:27:20.27\00:27:23.74 yourself and got a dog for sake meeting together. I think it's 00:27:23.74\00:27:27.94 only once a week at church. I know know that every single 00:27:27.94\00:27:31.95 issue is hang out with each other. Confess your sins one to 00:27:31.95\00:27:35.22 another, pray for each other so that you may be healed. It's 00:27:35.22\00:27:38.42 all of that stuff. And so if I'm going to, if I'm going to 00:27:38.42\00:27:41.39 step into setting limits, understanding what that means 00:27:41.39\00:27:47.20 is, first of all, I have to know what they are like. 00:27:47.20\00:27:49.36 What are my limit? Who is this person? I used to feel like if 00:27:49.36\00:27:53.47 I walk by somebody to to find us, I would disappear was like 00:27:53.47\00:27:57.24 missed. I wasn't solid enough to actually even do that. 00:27:57.24\00:28:01.64 And then there's a there's a this a book that I love and in 00:28:01.64\00:28:06.21 in in it's a Cs Lewis book on the Gray Divorce. And in that 00:28:06.21\00:28:11.42 book he does this this and allergy about have and then how 00:28:11.42\00:28:16.79 and and and spiritual growth. And he starts out with even the 00:28:16.79\00:28:20.80 smallest souvenir from h*** will keep you from heaven, 00:28:20.80\00:28:23.53 which got my attention. You can't take all luggage with you 00:28:23.53\00:28:26.10 on every trip to the small, a souvenir. And so then and then 00:28:26.10\00:28:30.07 he does this group of people that are waiting for a bus and 00:28:30.07\00:28:33.27 the bus is going to take them to heaven, right? And so it's 00:28:33.27\00:28:38.08 just an analogy. It's the story. So they're waiting. 00:28:38.08\00:28:40.92 And all the sudden they go from this grey existence to this 00:28:40.92\00:28:43.59 color and all this kind of soften, then they they the bus 00:28:43.59\00:28:47.36 stops and it's beautiful and there are angels waiting for 00:28:47.36\00:28:50.69 them. Each of them has their angel. That knows them really 00:28:50.69\00:28:53.60 was this woman looks at her angel, like I think that angels 00:28:53.60\00:28:57.37 coming on to me and she reaches in her bag and with the Angeles 00:28:57.37\00:29:01.47 thinking is and she looks terrible. She's like, but skin 00:29:01.47\00:29:05.07 and bones like she almost didn't make it, you know, 00:29:05.07\00:29:08.54 and really wanted to nurture her and her journey. But she 00:29:08.54\00:29:11.25 pulls out her lipstick and put some lipstick on initial 00:29:11.25\00:29:14.22 support. FedEX scene that we are looking at outwardly who we 00:29:14.22\00:29:18.32 are rather than stepping in to a real life. And so she gets 00:29:18.32\00:29:23.19 off the bus and she starts screaming, screaming, like 00:29:23.19\00:29:27.76 nobody would told me it would hurt to be here. I nobody told 00:29:27.76\00:29:32.43 me. And and what the story says is that if we can show up to 00:29:32.43\00:29:37.27 heaven 00:29:37.27\00:29:38.47 in our state, we are not real enough to even walk on the 00:29:38.47\00:29:41.61 grass yet. And our healing journey is about becoming 00:29:41.61\00:29:45.78 reeling off to walk on the grass. And so she decides to 00:29:45.78\00:29:49.58 get back on the bus and go home. But that hit me so hard 00:29:49.58\00:29:52.79 is like setting boundaries and finding out what our limits are 00:29:52.79\00:29:56.42 and who we are in Christ and what our journey is. Well, 00:29:56.42\00:29:59.79 I never hung a picture on my wall until I was in my 30's 00:29:59.79\00:30:03.50 because I didn't trust my own case. I didn't I wouldn't all 00:30:03.50\00:30:06.70 pick a color and and do any of that kind of stuff. My trump in 00:30:06.70\00:30:10.41 a feud with all of that, right? And so I've got to find out. 00:30:10.41\00:30:14.31 I don't even at that time I 00:30:14.31\00:30:16.98 I don't even know if you said what's your favorite color? 00:30:16.98\00:30:19.88 I would say your favorite color, obviously. What Yahoo 00:30:19.88\00:30:24.42 question with a question. Yeah. 00:30:24.42\00:30:25.59 >> And I tell people about that. If somebody says and I 00:30:25.59\00:30:27.52 had a couple sitting before me and said next time given Matt 00:30:27.52\00:30:30.99 Matt given counseling. And so when you're done, you know, 00:30:30.99\00:30:34.46 take your fiance, 2 restaurants. So I said, what 00:30:34.46\00:30:37.57 restaurant do you like to go to the mask and the wife to be? 00:30:37.57\00:30:40.84 She has a fiance him. In fact, what? What rest what would you 00:30:40.84\00:30:43.87 like? I said stop right there. Yes, stop it there. 00:30:43.87\00:30:47.21 He just asked you sorry he has to. What restaurant do you like 00:30:47.21\00:30:50.05 to go in? You asked him what the restaurant would you 00:30:50.05\00:30:51.75 prefer? I said 5 years from now you can wake up and realize you 00:30:51.75\00:30:55.18 didn't. You didn't even though the sky 00:30:55.18\00:30:57.35 and he never got to know you because he wants to know foods 00:30:57.35\00:30:59.52 you like and you want to 00:30:59.52\00:31:01.02 you prefer instead of answering that question about what you 00:31:01.02\00:31:04.23 like. You're deferring your likes. 00:31:04.23\00:31:06.80 >> To his legs and let you just you just let yourself in last 00:31:06.80\00:31:10.13 out was a red flag for a narcissistic relationship. 00:31:10.13\00:31:13.20 Oh, that's a whole nother thing is it's if somebody to Lee is 00:31:13.20\00:31:16.91 asking new just as a set up to get back what they wanted. 00:31:16.91\00:31:22.21 Most Co dependence will pick relationships like that. 00:31:22.21\00:31:25.35 We don't want to make the decision. We want someone else 00:31:25.35\00:31:28.52 to make the decision which puts us on dangerous ground. Yes. 00:31:28.52\00:31:31.79 And then we want to blame the other person when God says no, 00:31:31.79\00:31:34.96 no, no. You felt safety in not putting yourself out there at 00:31:34.96\00:31:40.36 any level and letting someone else make those decisions. 00:31:40.36\00:31:44.00 And so when I started to feel less safe in doing that and 00:31:44.00\00:31:47.74 asking myself, what 00:31:47.74\00:31:50.34 do you want to eat? 00:31:50.34\00:31:52.41 That's a part of the first part of knowing the limits to sign 00:31:52.41\00:31:56.11 is finding out. What are the limits? What are your limits? 00:31:56.11\00:31:59.15 What are your desires? What are we got says I'll give you this 00:31:59.15\00:32:02.35 is Ayers of your heart. And we've never been explored what 00:32:02.35\00:32:05.39 those are. But even God himself says, you know, kenley's hang 00:32:05.39\00:32:09.72 out a little bit. He shared this with me. And so it is a 00:32:09.72\00:32:13.50 really weird thing about setting boundaries. We're 00:32:13.50\00:32:15.93 learning about about boundaries, learning about 00:32:15.93\00:32:17.93 recovery, learning about coming out of trauma is we are 00:32:17.93\00:32:21.64 learning so much about who we are and one day you wake up in 00:32:21.64\00:32:26.37 your own skin full of joy and that Tex you that the joy of 00:32:26.37\00:32:31.11 the Lord is your strength will finally make sense. 00:32:31.11\00:32:33.65 >> I know I know what you're saying, obviously, really 00:32:33.65\00:32:36.25 because sometimes a and I want to set this up. Some ask you 00:32:36.25\00:32:40.19 the question. 00:32:40.19\00:32:41.29 Sometimes people feel use myself as to sometimes people 00:32:41.29\00:32:44.49 feel person. 00:32:44.49\00:32:45.79 When you set a limit of the people, things that you don't 00:32:45.79\00:32:48.33 like them when in fact saying no, not right now he's in fact 00:32:48.33\00:32:52.63 what you should say. Yes, people have asked me to do 00:32:52.63\00:32:55.57 certain things I set out overnight right now. I can do 00:32:55.57\00:32:58.51 right now. Yeah, later on and they think on anyone to help 00:32:58.51\00:33:01.44 me, 00:33:01.44\00:33:02.98 no, I just told you I don't. I'm not going help. You just 00:33:02.98\00:33:04.45 said not right now. Why do people feel that they have to 00:33:04.45\00:33:07.28 say yes. So can you set limits and still be a loving person? 00:33:07.28\00:33:11.62 >> Yes, but but what's really crazy about that is the entire 00:33:11.62\00:33:16.12 world will tell, you know, 00:33:16.12\00:33:18.09 Satan himself will tell, you know, when when the when the 00:33:18.09\00:33:21.23 Bible says fight against the schemes of the enemy because 00:33:21.23\00:33:23.60 the schemes of the enemy is I want you overburdened. I want 00:33:23.60\00:33:26.70 you discouraged. I want you not to show up as yourself. I want 00:33:26.70\00:33:29.97 you not to be on this with what you feel and even what your 00:33:29.97\00:33:32.61 time management looks like. I want you just to be drowning 00:33:32.61\00:33:36.58 in all of this. People pleasing stuff. All of this stuff in God 00:33:36.58\00:33:40.82 says no, no, no. 00:33:40.82\00:33:42.82 I even went away in prey. 00:33:42.82\00:33:44.95 I took off for entire night. I literally said I need to back 00:33:44.95\00:33:48.42 away right now because he didn't say no to ministry. 00:33:48.42\00:33:52.83 He didn't even say no to the cross, but he took care of 00:33:52.83\00:33:55.86 himself and he didn't. He didn't say yes, when yes was 00:33:55.86\00:34:00.57 not the right. No night and not the right response. Not even 00:34:00.57\00:34:04.24 the right. And to the response that I give like people that 00:34:04.24\00:34:07.41 know me now, I'm no me that that 00:34:07.41\00:34:11.65 then I would be real clear with you and not in a mean way at 00:34:11.65\00:34:15.45 all because I love the people in my life right then. And I'll 00:34:15.45\00:34:19.12 just say, and then I'm a, you know, do want to go skydiving 00:34:19.12\00:34:24.06 and like, yeah, I know. I would say, yeah, that's it. And I 00:34:24.06\00:34:31.47 want to opt out of this half. You know? So I would say no, 00:34:31.47\00:34:35.17 not because I don't think you're funny and fun and 00:34:35.17\00:34:38.01 adventurous, but unite just I just I'm not in my mind. 00:34:38.01\00:34:42.81 I'll be right with you. 00:34:42.81\00:34:44.01 >> All right. But I say I'm not giving the devil handy option, 00:34:44.01\00:34:47.65 Lou. And this is all and sabia work, you know, the bridge 00:34:47.65\00:34:52.32 between Zambia and Zimbabwe. So the sky invites me to go 00:34:52.32\00:34:55.29 bungee jumping with him in a country where they have no 00:34:55.29\00:34:57.16 insurance. You die, you die. Yeah. Your body just votes on 00:34:57.16\00:34:59.96 the so it says a pay. If you go ahead and doing that, he says 00:34:59.96\00:35:05.30 so 00:35:05.30\00:35:06.37 it ticks 100 foot, drop 600 foot drop over 1100 foot. 00:35:06.37\00:35:10.84 Dive down to this empty river. Victoria falls right there 00:35:10.84\00:35:15.28 and I said I'm not doing that. 00:35:15.28\00:35:17.18 >> So I pay for us. It is not the cost. I just I'm not doing 00:35:17.18\00:35:21.22 that. But even the next thing that a lot of people will say, 00:35:21.22\00:35:24.59 are you chicken out? You don't think that it's not a fan, 00:35:24.59\00:35:27.06 a wounded early, just setting a boundary just Cessna. I took a 00:35:27.06\00:35:30.73 breath. I thought about that. And I just have no interest and 00:35:30.73\00:35:34.50 I don't need to explain myself further. So what happened? 00:35:34.50\00:35:37.53 And we set boundaries and we don't know our own limits. 00:35:37.53\00:35:39.90 Is we over? Explain. We talked more than we need to and we 00:35:39.90\00:35:43.97 don't believe that. Yes or no is enough. And when the Bible 00:35:43.97\00:35:46.91 says let your yes P s I know we know 00:35:46.91\00:35:51.41 someone is upset by a boundary spy without your 00:35:51.41\00:35:54.62 responsibility. That's what I would ask myself. Is it my 00:35:54.62\00:35:57.92 responsibility of how you respond to that boundary? 00:35:57.92\00:36:01.86 It is not. It's really none of my business. What if they 00:36:01.86\00:36:05.43 scream and yell what if they throw a chair? What if they do 00:36:05.43\00:36:08.03 whatever that all of that is not my issue. And I know it was 00:36:08.03\00:36:13.00 not my intention to get you up. Said it was not my intention to 00:36:13.00\00:36:17.87 start all this drama. But if your trauma cause you to Oregon 00:36:17.87\00:36:22.28 to somebody because of they said the boundary on you, 00:36:22.28\00:36:25.05 please look into that. And I ca probably wouldn't say that at 00:36:25.05\00:36:27.88 that moment. 00:36:27.88\00:36:29.05 >> Yeah, I would say that the but you put exactly by setting 00:36:29.05\00:36:32.12 a boundary. 00:36:32.12\00:36:33.49 You're letting them know that whatever response you get from 00:36:33.49\00:36:36.83 them, 00:36:36.83\00:36:37.89 you didn't cause that a man. That's what people have to 00:36:37.89\00:36:40.36 understand. We're so concerned about how people may feel if we 00:36:40.36\00:36:45.37 don't acquiesce Aubrey. Yeah, but take their position that we 00:36:45.37\00:36:49.90 sometimes lose ourselves and we go home and all those toxic 00:36:49.90\00:36:53.48 things out. We stopped feeling they did. We feel drained. 00:36:53.48\00:36:56.68 We exhale, we inhale. We fall down. The country can do 00:36:56.68\00:36:59.51 anything because we've lost SOS in that moment. When you read 00:36:59.51\00:37:02.18 the when you really want to be honest, yes, we have too afraid 00:37:02.18\00:37:05.82 to be an even. 00:37:05.82\00:37:07.02 >> If I'm not for the bounties, if I if I end up home and I'm 00:37:07.02\00:37:10.46 exhausted, I'm going to escape into something. I'm going to 00:37:10.46\00:37:13.66 grab a gallon of ice cream. I'm gonna turn the TV on. 00:37:13.66\00:37:17.20 I'm the do whatever I can to disconnect from the 00:37:17.20\00:37:20.94 uncomfortable feelings of the lies. And I just told myself 00:37:20.94\00:37:24.51 about my right to set a boundary as I'm a I'm in the 00:37:24.51\00:37:27.41 escape. And so if I want to stop escaping myself, I need to 00:37:27.41\00:37:31.11 show up and be authentic and I don't want to do that. Some 00:37:31.11\00:37:34.38 people do it aggressively. You don't need to do it 00:37:34.38\00:37:36.42 aggressively. Thank you. Everybody has a right to just 00:37:36.42\00:37:39.82 say yes or no. Everybody has a right. And what I found out is 00:37:39.82\00:37:44.53 that all the sudden 00:37:44.53\00:37:46.53 people are choosing to sit next to me in friendship 00:37:46.53\00:37:51.97 that value my showing up offensively. And so you lose 00:37:51.97\00:37:56.57 some people, but you'll gain some people and more 00:37:56.57\00:37:59.74 importantly, you will gain yourself. You literally start 00:37:59.74\00:38:04.21 to saying that you are always enough. I am enough and I've 00:38:04.21\00:38:08.18 always been enough and I just didn't know it. 00:38:08.18\00:38:13.05 >> Before we ask the next question, I want to thank you 00:38:13.05\00:38:15.19 for that. Because I know I have said that the that the 00:38:15.19\00:38:17.86 listeners and viewers of the problem, I know there are 00:38:17.86\00:38:19.43 listening carefully. People need to know that it's OK 00:38:19.43\00:38:25.63 to set boundaries and not feel the need to just always Lucia 00:38:25.63\00:38:29.50 Self. And that's what I want to let you know, because some of 00:38:29.50\00:38:33.34 you are understanding exactly what she is saying. But all 00:38:33.34\00:38:37.61 that psychological chemical reaction to how you feel is is 00:38:37.61\00:38:41.32 interrupting. Why? 00:38:41.32\00:38:43.35 >> Interrupting the answer that you want to give payments. 00:38:43.35\00:38:45.89 So when do emotionally dysregulated. So let's say at a 00:38:45.89\00:38:49.09 boundary and I emotionally dysregulated and I am spending 00:38:49.09\00:38:52.89 and all the sudden I feel like every my pulse is going up. 00:38:52.89\00:38:56.73 My handwriting is dysregulated I I I feel so much stress. 00:38:56.73\00:39:00.34 I don't know even how to do the next sentence or conversation 00:39:00.34\00:39:04.07 because when we emotionally dysregulated everything, 00:39:04.07\00:39:07.18 it's everything changes and I can play it off like it. 00:39:07.18\00:39:10.35 I can literally do the next thing. But I don't it's tough 00:39:10.35\00:39:15.05 work, right? So when I mostly just regulate, there's things 00:39:15.05\00:39:18.39 that you can do to get yourself back into your skin in the 00:39:18.39\00:39:22.42 first thing, feel your feet on the ground. 00:39:22.42\00:39:26.29 But in my feet feel like right now as it hits this chair or 00:39:26.29\00:39:29.33 the ground. Yeah, right. And pay attention to that. 00:39:29.33\00:39:32.37 So now I'm out of the spin. Yes. What is your bottom feel 00:39:32.37\00:39:36.44 like sitting on this chair? But does it feel like and you 00:39:36.44\00:39:39.34 just start to actually say become conscious? Yeah, I'm 00:39:39.34\00:39:43.01 going to become conscious of the reality here. Find 00:39:43.01\00:39:46.75 something in the room to look at like there's a beautiful 00:39:46.75\00:39:49.68 picture of Jesus in the background holding a black 00:39:49.68\00:39:52.45 lamb. My favorite picture of anybody ever want to give me 00:39:52.45\00:39:55.49 that I needed yet my favorite picture. So look at something 00:39:55.49\00:40:00.03 that will get your mind off. Put. Take a drink few with the 00:40:00.03\00:40:04.10 water. Feels like on your mouth by smell something, say 00:40:04.10\00:40:08.00 something. Look at something, feel something and you start to 00:40:08.00\00:40:12.01 get back in your own skin and then I can step in and say the 00:40:12.01\00:40:15.04 next thing but don't try to set any more anything else. You are 00:40:15.04\00:40:19.35 not obligated to stay in the conversation. If you 00:40:19.35\00:40:22.18 emotionally, I can say, you know what can you hold that? 00:40:22.18\00:40:26.05 I'll be back in 15 minutes. I'm going to take a walk and 00:40:26.05\00:40:29.36 somebody says you don't you don't know my husband. I don't 00:40:29.36\00:40:32.23 have to know your husband. I I want to know you. Yeah. 00:40:32.23\00:40:34.83 And do you feel like you have the right to say right now? 00:40:34.83\00:40:38.83 I cannot hear you. I'm going to take a walk and I'll be right 00:40:38.83\00:40:42.40 back. Like what you're saying, John, I'm not saying no, 00:40:42.40\00:40:45.37 I'm not. And I won't be in the conversation that I cannot do 00:40:45.37\00:40:48.81 it right now. I need to take a breath. 00:40:48.81\00:40:50.91 >> What I'd done that I've done that effectively and some 00:40:50.91\00:40:53.82 people have misinterpreted that like, you know, you don't help 00:40:53.82\00:40:56.55 me. And I said, no, not right. Now later, I'll be I'll give 00:40:56.55\00:41:00.42 you my full attention, but I need to get what I'm doing 00:41:00.42\00:41:03.02 right now. My full attention. And this is what I want. 00:41:03.02\00:41:05.36 You know, that's when you get to that plan live. 00:41:05.36\00:41:08.43 You begin to be free. A man whom I wish you could you could 00:41:08.43\00:41:11.97 say this, honey, I said 00:41:11.97\00:41:13.97 a people don't have to agree with me. So to have the right 00:41:13.97\00:41:16.94 to my opinion that you have the right to my conclusion, even if 00:41:16.94\00:41:20.18 my opinion, it's not based on a set of facts. It's my opinion. 00:41:20.18\00:41:23.81 Yeah. So don't try to change it because it's my opinion. 00:41:23.81\00:41:27.45 Yeah. But if what I say is based on my own research, 00:41:27.45\00:41:30.75 don't try to undo my research with your research because the 00:41:30.75\00:41:33.46 bottom line is this is my research, cement Sabbath. 00:41:33.46\00:41:36.96 Musselman said the last, OK, Raiders of the lost art of 00:41:36.96\00:41:41.30 thinking. 00:41:41.30\00:41:42.83 >> They haven't Raiders of the Lost Ark. I think, you know, 00:41:42.83\00:41:45.30 I'm still going to be that, OK? So I mean on that's that's the 00:41:45.30\00:41:48.94 city, even for any of that when when the them I think the devil 00:41:48.94\00:41:53.78 himself made us feel like that. There are certain things that 00:41:53.78\00:41:58.28 if I quit, then I've arrived, right. And in like I said, 00:41:58.28\00:42:03.99 it's just the ticket to the movie. It's just a ticket to 00:42:03.99\00:42:06.79 get into your life is quitting. Everything else is part of the 00:42:06.79\00:42:10.19 transformation that uses his promise to said I will leave 00:42:10.19\00:42:14.00 every day. I will renew your thinking every day. I will 00:42:14.00\00:42:17.87 challenge your belief systems and some of your belief 00:42:17.87\00:42:21.10 systems. God himself will celebrate because they're so 00:42:21.10\00:42:23.94 good. Some of your relationships are so good, 00:42:23.94\00:42:26.94 but some of them have to be challenged and a half now. 00:42:26.94\00:42:30.18 And it has great work that comes with it. It has. It has, 00:42:30.18\00:42:34.18 you know, you really have to say, OK, God, I'm going to stop 00:42:34.18\00:42:37.95 fighting you on this. Yes, I'm John. You are nice and you you 00:42:37.95\00:42:42.49 explain to somebody why you set the boundary. We don't have to 00:42:42.49\00:42:46.53 not all. Actually, I don't think a good idea to say 00:42:46.53\00:42:49.06 because it is because sometimes setting a boundary 00:42:49.06\00:42:52.70 no matter how you explain it, if the person has an agenda, 00:42:52.70\00:42:56.77 your explanations are going to do. No good at also said in the 00:42:56.77\00:43:00.31 boundary is important for you and for them. And if you check 00:43:00.31\00:43:04.48 your heart and you do it because this truly is a 00:43:04.48\00:43:07.08 boundary for you, this is truly the kind of saying to do or the 00:43:07.08\00:43:10.65 most important thing. You know, your time constraint to 00:43:10.65\00:43:13.12 whatever is said it in, don't over. Explain or explain. 00:43:13.12\00:43:16.93 There's there's a new thing called the apartment triangle 00:43:16.93\00:43:20.96 to try and go at top is a persecutor rescuer and victim. 00:43:20.96\00:43:25.87 And so when we don't know how to take care of ourselves and 00:43:25.87\00:43:29.80 to set boundaries is that we live on this triangle. I 00:43:29.80\00:43:32.67 doesn't matter where we're at on the triangle where either 00:43:32.67\00:43:35.54 you're first getting because we're angry at somebody or were 00:43:35.54\00:43:37.91 victims are rescuing. But when God says, hey, how about get 00:43:37.91\00:43:42.18 off the triangle high and it's our choice to get off at any 00:43:42.18\00:43:46.62 time. You find yourself back on the triangle as you take a 00:43:46.62\00:43:49.66 breath, don't be rate yourself to step off. I'm pretty soon 00:43:49.66\00:43:54.20 you'll find that you're on the triangle less and less and 00:43:54.20\00:43:56.70 less. And you're showing up authentically as yourself not 00:43:56.70\00:44:00.40 rescuing anybody else. That plan a victim and definitely 00:44:00.40\00:44:03.97 not persecuting anyone because 00:44:03.97\00:44:06.81 you're free. And that's what you talked about a lot, John, 00:44:06.81\00:44:09.38 is that we end up being free and in our own skin and 00:44:09.38\00:44:13.45 celebrating life beyond what Trump has done. So forgiveness 00:44:13.45\00:44:17.75 is a huge thing. We know it just father has done here and 00:44:17.75\00:44:21.39 whether you have you forgiven them. You know, forgiveness is 00:44:21.39\00:44:24.96 a big thing and it's really tough like with my father. 00:44:24.96\00:44:27.66 I had to get a little baby shoe of his and I had to look at 00:44:27.66\00:44:31.10 this baby. She was a little white to that with us lace, 00:44:31.10\00:44:34.50 isn't it? And I had to say, Lord, I forgive my father for 00:44:34.50\00:44:38.41 all the abuse that happened in his life 00:44:38.41\00:44:41.64 as a baby, that he was able to grow up and you're all of his 00:44:41.64\00:44:45.78 children. And so I had to for a while, look at that shooting 00:44:45.78\00:44:48.88 now that I understand trauma and epigenetic somehow traumas 00:44:48.88\00:44:53.76 followed us from generation to generation. As I can look at, 00:44:53.76\00:44:58.29 I saw and say, and we have all carried someone's trauma and 00:44:58.29\00:45:04.43 then traumatized ourselves and we traumatize ourselves and 00:45:04.43\00:45:08.94 maybe even traumatize our children. And that's why 00:45:08.94\00:45:11.54 forgiveness not only for each other is important but were to 00:45:11.54\00:45:15.31 receive forgiveness from God that I have to know that God 00:45:15.31\00:45:18.08 looks at all of this and my guilt and all of this, my I'm 00:45:18.08\00:45:22.75 not showing up and not authentically and being able to 00:45:22.75\00:45:25.42 lie to my child or are not be the president with her growing 00:45:25.42\00:45:28.92 up because I was trying to people, please, God says I 00:45:28.92\00:45:32.09 forgive you. 00:45:32.09\00:45:33.46 I forgive you, do not beat yourself up over this. Do not. 00:45:33.46\00:45:37.50 You know, my my Angela said, you know, into, you know 00:45:37.50\00:45:42.27 something 00:45:42.27\00:45:43.44 into you'll act a certain way into, you know, better than do 00:45:43.44\00:45:46.47 better. Yeah. I mean, it's a very simple statement in my gut 00:45:46.47\00:45:49.78 says is, don't beat yourself up. Don't let the enemy get a 00:45:49.78\00:45:53.01 hold of you and let you spend in guilt because, you know, 00:45:53.01\00:45:56.15 dis regulating guilt at don't do that. 00:45:56.15\00:45:59.09 >> God says you are, can my blood covers this? And now 00:45:59.09\00:46:02.36 let's learn to do was to save us all loving it. You need to 00:46:02.36\00:46:05.26 have a someone all you do. You just say come on in if 00:46:05.26\00:46:09.10 you're broke and people that don't come and want to admit 00:46:09.10\00:46:11.17 their pro can watch us. Real quick summit thought completely 00:46:11.17\00:46:14.50 different question with all left and right before we go 00:46:14.50\00:46:16.81 there, OK, he said this. 00:46:16.81\00:46:18.67 >> Is that I'm coming out of retirement. Okay. So if 00:46:18.67\00:46:21.54 somebody for one eye have not a dime fact at times, can't even 00:46:21.54\00:46:26.98 afford groceries now may even lose my house, which is I'm not 00:46:26.98\00:46:31.29 complaining about that. But if you can sponsor me going to 00:46:31.29\00:46:35.12 seminars, working with people want to any of that stuff, 00:46:35.12\00:46:39.03 please do because I'm not asking this because I want a 00:46:39.03\00:46:41.76 new outfit, even how that would be were a size 8. Haha, I'm 00:46:41.76\00:46:48.90 just asking that. I don't know how like Danny was gracious 00:46:48.90\00:46:51.97 enough to allow me to set back in the ministry or in the 00:46:51.97\00:46:55.41 ministry. I'm asking if somebody is out there that can 00:46:55.41\00:46:58.55 help me to step in the ministry or if you can invite me to your 00:46:58.55\00:47:01.95 church or let me do a seminar or any of that stuff, please 00:47:01.95\00:47:06.42 do. 00:47:06.42\00:47:07.89 >> Yeah, I think we have your e-mail that I'll ask him to put 00:47:07.89\00:47:10.09 the not share that with the views before the problem is 00:47:10.09\00:47:12.06 over. OK, go ahead with a completely different question 00:47:12.06\00:47:14.76 here, honey, what you wish you could look at how the wife 00:47:14.76\00:47:18.37 affectively manage my digits whole life 00:47:18.37\00:47:22.67 so that it doesn't control me. 00:47:22.67\00:47:25.04 >> You know what? It what stuff that 00:47:25.04\00:47:28.18 so important to me, John. But 00:47:28.18\00:47:31.08 we have given 00:47:31.08\00:47:35.12 kids cell phones at to try just babysat them. Yeah. And the 00:47:35.12\00:47:40.52 kids went in 2010 from a play 00:47:40.52\00:47:44.03 economy 00:47:44.03\00:47:46.19 to a phone Com E so they're meant to learn by plane moving 00:47:46.19\00:47:50.63 their bodies, doing all this kind of stuff. Their minds or 00:47:50.63\00:47:53.54 their brains are 90% developed by the time they're 5. And now 00:47:53.54\00:47:58.17 all they're moving is their fingers at 10. They're 00:47:58.17\00:48:00.91 scrolling. You take away their phone. They sound like an 00:48:00.91\00:48:03.51 addict. You take away the device. They sound like an 00:48:03.51\00:48:05.91 addict. We gave him Einstein and computers and learning 00:48:05.91\00:48:09.18 things what they're finding out and in different places that it 00:48:09.18\00:48:12.55 was so damaging that it is changed and neurochemistry of a 00:48:12.55\00:48:16.59 generation all over the world. So from 2010 until now, suicide 00:48:16.59\00:48:22.00 rates went up and hedonistic disorders. When UPS depression 00:48:22.00\00:48:26.50 wind up anxiety is off the chart and you look at these 00:48:26.50\00:48:29.87 kids and they show up in college and they want safe 00:48:29.87\00:48:32.34 places. They don't even know how to show up without you 00:48:32.34\00:48:35.64 providing safe places because they don't know how to do that 00:48:35.64\00:48:38.25 for themselves. So these are not spoiled brat. He's are not 00:48:38.25\00:48:41.52 people that don't have a brand. These are people that we have 00:48:41.52\00:48:44.89 program in certain countries won't even let you program the 00:48:44.89\00:48:48.26 kids under 6. It's against the law. Has devices also injury? 00:48:48.26\00:48:52.56 Yeah, and damaging. So we've changed in our chemistry of a 00:48:52.56\00:48:55.86 generation and yet we don't think it affects us, but it 00:48:55.86\00:48:59.20 affects anybody that's on their device, actually more than a 00:48:59.20\00:49:03.34 few hours a day and some kids, it's 20 hours a day. So that 00:49:03.34\00:49:07.48 means or sleep so disruptive. They're eating this disruptive. 00:49:07.48\00:49:10.78 They don't know how to communicate their their their 00:49:10.78\00:49:13.35 face-to-face to office is not developed at Alderson. Dana 00:49:13.35\00:49:17.49 Modi's rather than doing a facial expression and it is 00:49:17.49\00:49:21.69 that epidemic of our time. It says it released due to the 00:49:21.69\00:49:25.79 bottom ease 2 people. We thought that we would genius to 00:49:25.79\00:49:28.56 do that or electric shock treatment and all that kind of 00:49:28.56\00:49:31.07 stop. And we did that long before. We knew that that was 00:49:31.07\00:49:33.70 horrendous. It was horrible now, right for mutilating young 00:49:33.70\00:49:37.61 kids by removing genders and all that kind of stopped and 00:49:37.61\00:49:40.81 were given devices to other kids to kids that are changing 00:49:40.81\00:49:44.01 them neurochemistry. So when you talk about trauma, there's 00:49:44.01\00:49:48.75 so many levels of trauma, but there's levels of trauma right 00:49:48.75\00:49:52.82 now that children, 25 years, 30 years old and under, are 00:49:52.82\00:49:58.19 walking into the world ill equipped and have no idea who 00:49:58.19\00:50:01.56 they are. And they are fabulous folks, but they have no idea. 00:50:01.56\00:50:05.07 So to me devices, we're going to look back if we're still 00:50:05.07\00:50:09.20 around, hopefully will be home by then. But if we're still 00:50:09.20\00:50:12.17 around 10, 20 years from now, we're going to be repenting. 00:50:12.17\00:50:15.44 >> Of what we did to both generate well, the world right 00:50:15.44\00:50:17.68 now. I think it may have been you might. My life was just 00:50:17.68\00:50:19.81 reminded me. We're the one that recommended the book to me. 00:50:19.81\00:50:22.42 Thrilled to death in a tweet by TalkTalk trouble him powerful. 00:50:22.42\00:50:26.15 Get that book, thrilled to death that talks about and had 00:50:26.15\00:50:28.79 only of how the simple pleasures of life you can not 00:50:28.79\00:50:31.29 experience any longer. 00:50:31.29\00:50:32.69 >> This gem because it's flat-lined. Yeah, the pleasure 00:50:32.69\00:50:35.46 centers of your brain that you are not producing the 00:50:35.46\00:50:38.23 neurochemistry that you need. And 2 men. You talk about 00:50:38.23\00:50:40.87 somebody that younger because we at least have developed that 00:50:40.87\00:50:45.44 Brian and getting back to that as possible use takes a 2 00:50:45.44\00:50:49.28 year-old that has been on devices their whole lives. 00:50:49.28\00:50:51.91 They have it more difficult time, not impossible but more 00:50:51.91\00:50:55.55 difficult time to get back to that state or to a state of 00:50:55.55\00:50:59.49 being in their own skin and alive without chemical 00:50:59.49\00:51:03.46 assistant. 00:51:03.46\00:51:04.59 >> And the more people have that the more exposure people 00:51:04.59\00:51:07.76 have at any age to this device, 00:51:07.76\00:51:10.23 the less they have the ability to focus. 00:51:10.23\00:51:13.57 >> That's a difficult thing. So so I run programs right now 00:51:13.57\00:51:18.31 healing through the arts. So we we actually do right 00:51:18.31\00:51:21.48 brand healing to art and music. And and and it just kind of 00:51:21.48\00:51:25.01 getting into all that kind of stuff hands on stop. We go out, 00:51:25.01\00:51:29.38 even even kayaking or power boarding. And we go out on 00:51:29.38\00:51:32.62 weekends and hike together and all that kind of stuff. So 00:51:32.62\00:51:35.36 anything you can do to add to your online stop don't feel 00:51:35.36\00:51:39.16 like I might have to take it away to some kids would rather 00:51:39.16\00:51:41.80 you lose a lamb, then you take their phone. We know. And so 00:51:41.80\00:51:46.03 it's so true. So it's like don't don't think about that. 00:51:46.03\00:51:49.57 But think about if you have children, if you have friends, 00:51:49.57\00:51:52.41 if you love anybody, take him outside, do something. You 00:51:52.41\00:51:57.35 know, when got Tommy had a love because I didn't know how to 00:51:57.35\00:51:59.85 love. I mean, that would what does that mean exactly and what 00:51:59.85\00:52:02.82 he said? I want you to go outside and just take a walk in 00:52:02.82\00:52:05.65 any time you see something that makes you smile, know that 00:52:05.65\00:52:08.19 you've experienced me a little bit. And so what I saw flower 00:52:08.19\00:52:12.03 color or smelled something or whatever, so get outside and 00:52:12.03\00:52:15.86 know that the angels themselves walk with you when you're in 00:52:15.86\00:52:19.50 nature. I mean that this is a spiritual experience. And when 00:52:19.50\00:52:23.20 you do that with each other and connect a laugh with each 00:52:23.20\00:52:25.51 other, it is absolutely amazing to don't think that I can stay 00:52:25.51\00:52:29.38 on lines going through a device and learning how to set 00:52:29.38\00:52:32.38 boundaries are learning how to communicate or connecting with 00:52:32.38\00:52:35.48 anybody that's going to be life changing to me or them. So it 00:52:35.48\00:52:39.42 is 00:52:39.42\00:52:40.82 it is a health is a home new world. 00:52:40.82\00:52:44.36 >> So so you e-mail would be celebrating life for Christ. 00:52:44.36\00:52:49.43 Yes, at G Mail dot com. Yes, yeah. There is. It is on the 00:52:49.43\00:52:53.27 bottom of the screen celebrating life for Chrysler 00:52:53.27\00:52:56.14 and G Mail dot com. Now, the reason given that e-mail, 00:52:56.14\00:52:59.11 I just want the people listening watching the program 00:52:59.11\00:53:01.38 to know that I don't want to add a month in the midst that 00:53:01.38\00:53:05.18 you said earlier, this appeal that she made was a very honest 00:53:05.18\00:53:08.78 appealed versus your appeal because we've known you and we 00:53:08.78\00:53:12.12 know you we know you're out, you know, the Austin on using 00:53:12.12\00:53:15.66 that word 00:53:15.66\00:53:16.79 of experiences and what you have. But the lawyer wrote you 00:53:16.79\00:53:19.29 through and how the laws of C we've we've experienced that 00:53:19.29\00:53:22.40 here. But God is not finished yet. And that's what the sun 00:53:22.40\00:53:26.94 God is not finished with you yet. And you're still at the 00:53:26.94\00:53:29.44 place where these questions and the skills that God has allowed 00:53:29.44\00:53:32.17 you to experience and develop from that kind of live. It's 00:53:32.17\00:53:35.64 helpful in your community. You might be a pastor. Yeah, 00:53:35.64\00:53:38.51 you might be a local leader. You might be a person who's 00:53:38.51\00:53:40.95 running a show home for young girls that don't know they are. 00:53:40.95\00:53:45.75 You might be a person that wants to add a different 00:53:45.75\00:53:48.69 dimension to your rehab center or a person that's dealing with 00:53:48.69\00:53:51.69 people that are just strung out on something 00:53:51.69\00:53:53.93 you've been there should use and and what I like about it, 00:53:53.93\00:53:57.27 we've had you preach at a church before. What I like 00:53:57.27\00:53:59.07 about it is she not only has had these experiences that 00:53:59.07\00:54:01.80 you've experienced God to bring. The scriptural has 00:54:01.80\00:54:04.61 picked a name. And so you not just telling people about all 00:54:04.61\00:54:07.01 that you've been to how to get out of it. Yeah. Power of Khan 00:54:07.01\00:54:10.65 to power cars. So in the time we have remaining give us about 00:54:10.65\00:54:13.78 the 30 seconds or so. But talk to the people on the camera 00:54:13.78\00:54:17.62 thing right behind me here. Just kind of reach out to them 00:54:17.62\00:54:20.19 in kids. Some encouraging words before we close this program is 00:54:20.19\00:54:23.06 solvent encouragement. 00:54:23.06\00:54:24.69 Talk directly to them. 00:54:24.69\00:54:25.86 >> Yeah, I just want to say if there's anybody out there that 00:54:25.86\00:54:28.76 in the middle of their trauma and they really don't know what 00:54:28.76\00:54:30.90 to do with us is I want to say men grab people around you and 00:54:30.90\00:54:36.40 there's so many groups there's on celebrating life in 00:54:36.40\00:54:39.04 recovery, which is our group there celebrate recovery, 00:54:39.04\00:54:41.34 which is another group out there. There's a 12 step 00:54:41.34\00:54:44.31 program anywhere. There's Bible studies. There's a lot of 00:54:44.31\00:54:47.82 different things that you can grab hold of, but don't do this 00:54:47.82\00:54:50.15 by yourself and know 00:54:50.15\00:54:52.45 now that recovery is possible. I promise you, I promise you 00:54:52.45\00:54:56.56 that we put your hand up to God and he will grab hold of the 00:54:56.56\00:54:59.66 other side of that. And so don't be afraid of that. 00:54:59.66\00:55:03.57 It call OS. I'm gonna call me because we can talk. And I and 00:55:03.57\00:55:08.77 I don't mean that lightly. And again, I want to go to the 00:55:08.77\00:55:11.57 person that can actually help sponsor us is when somebody 00:55:11.57\00:55:15.78 calls, I want to be able to give them the time. And I can't 00:55:15.78\00:55:18.71 even buy groceries some of the time just because of where I'm 00:55:18.71\00:55:23.02 not coming out of retirement. So if you can sponsor anything 00:55:23.02\00:55:26.32 sponsor us with our one to one sponsor us with our 00:55:26.32\00:55:29.06 interventions with family sponsor us. When we go out to 00:55:29.06\00:55:31.89 communities and if you have a quarter in your pocket, send it 00:55:31.89\00:55:35.76 to us because we need that and know that it's needed. We've 00:55:35.76\00:55:40.64 got a world that is being lost in trauma all over the world. 00:55:40.64\00:55:44.97 Not just one country, not just one area, not just one. When we 00:55:44.97\00:55:49.01 talk about all this cultural stuff and racial stuff, it is. 00:55:49.01\00:55:52.81 There's no on divide here. We are all dealing with 00:55:52.81\00:55:56.28 something and we all need each other and we all need the lord. 00:55:56.28\00:56:01.36 That's kind of I don't mean lame to say. But I know people 00:56:01.36\00:56:05.06 here that all the time. But I believe that with everything in 00:56:05.06\00:56:07.60 me is I can't do this without God. You can't do this without 00:56:07.60\00:56:10.67 God, and we can't do this without each other. That's 00:56:10.67\00:56:12.93 right. 00:56:12.93\00:56:14.40 >> She said, well, you know, I feel like I got some free 00:56:14.40\00:56:17.81 counseling to hull so many points, the tweet which we have 00:56:17.81\00:56:21.51 through the years. But on a show, the script to John 16, 00:56:21.51\00:56:23.98 33 Jesus said in the world, you will have tribulation but 00:56:23.98\00:56:28.75 Sheree and we all have turned out to be a good year have 00:56:28.75\00:56:31.59 overcome the world. Don't forget there's going to be a 00:56:31.59\00:56:34.16 day when there's no more on all this stuff. You've got to make 00:56:34.16\00:56:37.43 it through the 23rd psalm. Let that be your guide at the 00:56:37.43\00:56:40.00 Lord is your shepherd. Everything that David talked 00:56:40.00\00:56:42.03 about will be your experience. 00:56:42.03\00:56:43.93 But as you say, one day, you'll do well in the House of the 00:56:43.93\00:56:47.10 Lord Forever. I'm Ashley PETA. So good to have you here. 00:56:47.10\00:56:50.07 Yes, baby in family. Thank you for joining us tonight. Tell 00:56:50.07\00:56:53.64 you celebrate something today and celebrate this that Jesus 00:56:53.64\00:56:57.38 is on your side and, you know, bring you through onto the next 00:56:57.38\00:57:00.35 time publishing 00:57:00.35\00:57:02.28 [MUSIC] 00:57:02.28\00:57:07.29 [MUSIC] 00:57:07.29\00:57:12.29 [MUSIC] 00:57:12.29\00:57:17.27 [MUSIC] 00:57:17.27\00:57:22.27 [MUSIC] 00:57:22.27\00:57:27.28 [MUSIC] 00:57:27.28\00:57:32.75 [MUSIC] 00:57:32.75\00:57:37.75 [MUSIC] 00:57:37.75\00:57:42.76 [MUSIC] 00:57:42.76\00:57:47.76 [MUSIC] 00:57:47.76\00:57:52.73 [MUSIC] 00:57:52.73\00:57:57.74 [MUSIC] 00:57:57.74\00:58:12.82