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>> Hello and welcome to another
3, a man today program. Thank
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you for joining us. Is you
do each and every day. What a
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blessing it is to serve the
Lord. What a blessing it is to
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have a family of on around the
world. It is. It is. And we get
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to talk to our families.
And when we go to these
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rallies, we get to see you in
person at the end. We're going
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to go into some I think
the next couple months or so.
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I think we're going to
Huntsville next. We in the next
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few weeks, next couple weeks
and we're going to Minnesota,
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I think. And and we're going
to be gone. So he sure looked to
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schedules and hopefully when
where some of these rallies you
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can come and come and join
us. We're here with Ryan Day.
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Pastor Dennis, Good to have you
here today. Always a blessing
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to be a part of the 3ABN
Thursday night live in. Just
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want to welcome. Everyone
at home will have a great
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discussion tonight.
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>> And down in that seat,
there's a big screen in the
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side of the TV screen and
Pastor James Rafferty. Rather.
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I have you and let me. Yeah.
Haha. I love that. You know,
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used to flee Skype. We
had would put a picture up or
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something while someone talk
now you're just like you right
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here with us. He's at the other
end of the table. We love it.
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He couldn't be here. But you're
going to be here next week or
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so, right? You guys start some
7 school programs and all of
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that. So we love it. When you
re see or hear and we're going
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to be doing can't meeting
ending starting June 5th.
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So put that on your calendar
and get ready for that. That
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reminded me of all the folks
that are going to be coming
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here. We're going to have great
camp meeting room and we're
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going to start out Wednesday
night, actually with the Larry
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Gatlin and is to be Larry
Gatlin. You know, the Gatlin
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brothers Friday. Still, Larry
has been saying in the family,
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they still say he's a
Christian, given his life to
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the Lord, got a great
testimony. So he's going to be
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here 6 o'clock Wednesday
evening. And that's June the
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5th. So that's first night
of camp meeting. So I know we're
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going have a lot of people.
So come come quick, come early.
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So you get a seat, enjoy the
blessings of camp. Many will be
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there throughout the week.
So we're looking forward to
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that then. Also before we
get on our topics, going to be a
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hot topic tonight. So we're
going talk politics. How about
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that? Who are always? So we try
to stay. You try to stay away
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from dry. Sometimes you
can help it. So let me rephrase
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that. We're going talk Bible,
alright, and taught Bible.
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If you want to talk politics,
you can talk politics, but
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we're going talk Bible. Well,
that's all that we believe in
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is what the Bible says. We
really don't care what politics
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with the on the left or the
right or somewhere in between.
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We're just worried about and
concerned about what God says.
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And we want to be one of those
and that number, wait eastern
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skies break and we can look up
and say low. This is our about
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whom we waited for. He has
come to say this. Pastor James,
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again, it's so good to have you
here. And we when we do topics
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like this, I really want you
to be around because I look at
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whether James is more of a
he's scholarly. I'm not. So he's
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very organized. He's very
studied. He's been studying
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this message and we're going
to be talking about in time.
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Prophecies were going to be
talking about things. I think
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we put the title. Can
Christians enforce morality or
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maybe should Christians tried
of force morality? So you can
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say why say politics? Because
somebody is going to say all
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they're going to the laughter,
they're going to the right and
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we may talk about. And I think
we will. I think we'll talk
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about some of the things on
both sides tonight, but we're
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going to end up somewhere in
between right with the word of
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God. So thank you again, Pastor
James, for being here. God
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bless you and race for what
you all do for the cause of got.
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Now before we get started,
we have a brand new project,
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a van, and that is the book can
can the Christian Church affirm
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LGBTQ the one that we're
to spin out several months?
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We we we've got a plan for that
brother, James. And that plan
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is we want that book to go
to every Christian pastor, every
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pastor and America.
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And so everyone in America,
every denomination of every
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denomination. So we're going
to start out. We're starting out
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this week and putting
things together. I think they're
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72,000 Baptist churches
and the United States. So we're
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starting out with getting
addresses together. We have to
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get the name lists all of
this little expensive to get the
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list of, you know, all of those
pastors then do the mailing.
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We're going to send books
virtually to every pastor.
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Then we're going on to
the other denominations from
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Catholic to Methodist to
whatever. And I'm sure the math
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there's we probably should
do those first. I think 6,000
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churches split because of that
topic, really about the LGBTQ
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movement within the church.
But this is something. So what
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we're gonna do it on, how can
folks tonight we're asking if
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you would like to make a
donation to help us get is
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going to be several. Hundreds
of thousands of these books
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will go to virtually every
pastor and America. If you want
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willing to help with that,
give a tax deductible donation,
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how how can they do it?
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>> Well, they can, first of
all call because they're people
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tonight in the call center
waiting for your calls. You can
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call 618-627-4651. So you
can call and or you can email us
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live at 3 ABN DOT TV or you
can go to the website, 3, 3,
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ABN Dot TV and you can order
the books. Actually you can
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order.
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>> Make the order to
sponsor that these books tonight
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because we need
sponsor. Yeah. Yeah.
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>> So your donation is
tax-deductible. So whatever you
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can get, whether it's $5 or
505,000 will be appreciated.
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But I think this is a
big enough topic within the
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Christian community that this
NIE, every pastor needs to have
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some ammunition. I'm going to
call up biblical ammunition us
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as to how to to look at
this and responsibly and say,
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you know, I can see what the
Bible says and it's up to him
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to decide how he wants to
preach it. But I think it's up
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to us to get the
Gospel get the truth.
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>> To the world. So and
it would use fund code 3.50,
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fun code 3.50, OK, if anybody
asked whoever you can color is
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there on the Web sites on
the Web site how they do it
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tonight. So if they go to
the website, they says okay,
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so they can order but it's fund
3.50. They'll see the numbers.
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The options. They're okay.
Just choose fund 3.50. Okay.
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Yeah. And and they can email
that says live at 3 ABN dot
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TVs, right? Yes. Or just
call it that. You know all too
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complicated. Now with all
that up on your screen to okay,
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618-627-4651, and a.
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>> Don't you wish Greg and
Joe was here. So good at what I
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know. I can certainly not very
good stuff. She's so organize.
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You think choice and I'm not
no. See what really? I caught
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myself looking down the
phone number that her almost 40
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years. Haha. That's right.
Absolutely. Yeah. So in a way,
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if you like on Sir, help us
sponsor these books to go to
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virtually every pastor and
America was starting out with
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this 72,000. That is money
comes in. We're going to get
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all the churches. So if the
lords impressing on you then
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call and email us go to our
website and how we want to do
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it and then use code 3.50, for
your donation and you'll get a
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tax deductible yet what I want
to do, maybe set the stage a
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little bit. I want to give a
little bit of the State of the
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Union, the president of
the United States. You know,
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one he's up speaking about once
a year ever so often gives the
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state of the Union. Well,
I'm not President United States
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don't want to be glad I'm not.
And but what I would like to do
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is kind of give a little bit
in summary here. So you all and
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because this is you can
tell that we haven't planned
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everything out, but I've said
hears the topics. You guys go
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for the van, you, Tony.
And so we're going to do this
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together. And we've asked
the Lord to bless, but I want to
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say to begin with, if I
could give a state of the church
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right now, it would be a mess.
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So that's my nutshell. The
church, God is a mess. Now we
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want to talk about and this
good so talked rail tonight.
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We're just going to do this to
begin with and my age. I don't
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have time to wait to put things
off new, you know, for a later
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time, Reince Young, as you are
in kind of straight. I got to
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throw it all out here, what
I can. But if you look at the
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state of the church,
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the Jays, this is coming
back for a pair of 5 bride of
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purified church, a remnant
people of God, those who keep
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the commandments of God and
have the faith of the testimony
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of Jesus, right? That's where
he's coming back for. But do
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you think right now that we're
waiting on Jesus to come back
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and you think he's waiting
on us to perfect his character
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within our lives so he can come
back for that Pier 5 ride that
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purify the church? I think it's
for the latter. Don't you know
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that Jesus is waiting on
us? Because we're divided. We're
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divided by race or divide
about culture. We're divided by
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politics. All kinds of things
within the church. I'm amazed
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when you go on Facebook, I
say Adventists Christian against
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Adventists Christian literally
on Facebook. So Yahoo. We're
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and some music from somewhere
hope that doesn't distract you
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and so on on Facebook, people
are like disagreeing and some
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some Christians are on this
side of the left side summer on
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the right side. And it's
like what the world is going on,
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where people, you know, where
we're coming from and what kind
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of witnesses this to last and
I'm world. So when I say that,
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you know, we're we're in a
mask. That's what I'm talking
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about. I believe that that
were already in the shaking. It
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started in. The good news is
we don't have to stay this way.
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There's going to be a great
revival coming. There's going
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to be a latter rain
coming. But before that happens,
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we have to have conversations
like we're going to have
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tonight, even at the expense
of maybe offending someone.
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We're going to have to do that
to get so everything out in the
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open. So we can say, Lord,
how you're going to hill this,
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how you're going to heal us
if my people will come right,
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you know, skip your how you
going to do this. Well, first
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of all, we have to be open.
We have to be willing and we
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have to have to put the
Bible before any politics, any
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culture.
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>> Any race that has to
come first? May I read the
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scripture? Yeah.
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>> Because of the church is
divided and Jesus in John 17.
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So I do not pray for these
along, but also for those who
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will believe in me through
their word that they may all be
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one as you father
are in me. And I in you
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that they also may be one in us
that the world may believe that
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you sent me right now. We're so
divided that the world can look
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on. Look at the church and say
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this is not if this is what
Christianity is about, then I
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don't want to impart any part
of it because we are not one
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because the devil is really,
really working hard to divide
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us. And we have to look
globally. We have to look at
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the big picture and not just
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itemize things, but look at
it from a spiritual place. And
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that's both places say the
devil is trying to deceive even
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the very lead. So if we don't
come together to the word of
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God, that's why it's great
that we're doing this program.
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And again, there might be some
people who are funded because
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it's going to step on toes. But
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>> we have to get to that place
where we are one in Christ.
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But if you call man, you're a
Christian, you call me or text
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me or e-mail or whatever.
And you say you're offended.
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>> I'm going to say look
up sums one six-man 19, one 65
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great piece. Have they add
to all and nothing shallow about
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that? Be able to forget
about ourselves, right? Not be
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offended. So we have a great I
do want to call it an advantage
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because it's for
everyone. But we have
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been able to do God's
blessings. Hayes allowed
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Leonard a church to really
unlock the prophecies of Daniel
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revelation. So there's no
reason for us to be confused.
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There's no reason with those
of us Christians who understand
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prophecy. So what we want to
talk about tonight is we want
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to talk about where are we?
Where is America and prophecy,
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whereas American prophecy and
is it even can we look at these
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books written thousands
of years ago, Ryan and James,
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can we look at him and say,
OK, let's say, I think that's
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America and then some all well
know, maybe this or maybe it's
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not even in there. Can we
actually show from the Bible
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America and processing of this?
So can we get an idea of where
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we are and that timeline?
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All right. And that.
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>> There's 2 scriptures that
we can look at for this. One of
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them is in revelation 13
and the other one is Romans 13.
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So really easy. Remember
because both of them are
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chapter Thirteen's. We can
start in revelation 13 as far
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as trying to identify where
we are in Bible prophecy and and
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look and see in the context
of the Bible. What our present
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situation is based on the
history behind us. So can we
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start their relationship
is the time to time. So, yeah,
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OK, revelation 13. Let's just
begin here with this picture
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that we have in revelation,
13 of beasts. There's 2 of them
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picture there. There's a beast
that comes out of the sea and
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as a beast that comes
out of the earth and in Bible
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prophecy, a beast represents
a kingdom or power or thinking
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the more power and God is using
the same type of imagery that
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we are familiar with. We often
identify nations are kingdoms
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with cymbals obese like America
is in eagle and China is a
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dragon in England. There's a
lion and brushes and they're so
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there's a language for us.
These to be some revelation
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chapter 13 east toque earthly
powers come up from different
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places. Now the first one
comes up out of the sea, which
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represents peoples nations
multitudes in towns populated
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area of the world. According
to Revelation, 17, 15 see that
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Daniel 7, 17 23 to tell us
a beast represents an earthly
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power. You've got revelation
17, 15 that tells us that
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water's represent people's
Nations mall too. Sometimes
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this first beast we've
identified Prophetically as the
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religious power of the papacy.
Roman, the Roman power of the
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papacy, which rose up in
the sequence, a battle on media
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pressure. Greece and pagan
Roman sat it occupies the seat.
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A pagan Roman pagan. Rome fell
in 4.76. papal wrong rose up
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out of the ashes of that
pagan system. And it established
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itself as a world power, a
viable world power. That power
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lasted for about 1260 years
from 5.38. To 17. 98. When I
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say last night, I mean, it's no
longer around. Of course it is.
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But with strong civil
authority, it bit began rain.
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5.38 and it received a deadly
wounded. 17 98 now with that
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history in our background,
let's just read revelation
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chapter 13 and verse tent
revelation 13 verse 10. Here's
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what it says. He that leads
into captivity show go into
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captivity. He that kills with
the sword will be killed with a
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sword. Here is the patience
and faith of the Saints. This is
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describing what happened in
17, 98 for CA and the French
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government went into wrong and
took the poll captive. They led
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him into captivity were
eventually died February 17,
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98.
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And that is what the
Bible calls in revelation, 13,
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3, a deadly wound, a wound that
would eventually be healed when
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the how are the civil power
of the papacy is restored. Now,
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the papacy wasn't vanquished
completely. It's still
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maintained its crazy a** tickle
power and authority, but it's
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civil power was wounded.
Now in that context, 17,
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98, you see something really
interesting happening. And this
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is going to be clue number
one, but identifies the United
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States in Bible prophecy.
OK, man, that clue is that in a
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rose at the right time, right
when the papacy was going down,
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another nation was coming up.
Notice verse 11 of Revelation
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Chapter 13
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and another ID held. Another
beast coming up out of the
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earth yet to ones like a
land and he spake as a dragon.
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So here we have a power that is
rising up right when the papacy
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is going down 17. 98 is when
the papacy went down and 17.
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76 is when we began to arise.
Now, of course, America didn't
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gain its independence for
another 8 years. It was in
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weight war with the British
from 17, all 17. 73 or so
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stymied. 75 or so. So 17 73
17. 74 was our 84 83. 84. It was
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all clear. So we have the
rise in America. In fact, even
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fought another battle with the
British in 18, 12 to about 18,
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15. But it's coming up as
this other power is going down.
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The other clue that's really
significant here is that a rose
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in the right place knows
what it says, heroes out of the
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earth. That's a less populated
area of the world. The waters
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represent people's nations.
Well, too, sometimes the earth
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would represent a less
populated place of the world
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include number 3, it's depicted
as a nother beast. That means
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it's a new nation. United
States broke away from England
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and all that European routes
and eventually became a new
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nation. A separate power
include number 4. It is a
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Democratic republic.
This second beast has 2 horns,
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but there's no crowns on them.
This crowns on the boards of
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the first beast, there's 10
ones with crowns. There's no
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crowns on the second be.
So it's a it's a new Democrat,
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a Democratic republic who
number 5. And this is really
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the one that takes us to the
time in which we live. It says
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there in verse 12 that it would
exercise all the power of the
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first beast before him
and caused the earth. And then
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that, well, they run to
worship. The first beast who is
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dead. The wound was
heal. So we can say without
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hesitation here, there's never
been a time in history. As far
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as we know when America has
been so to completely able to
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fulfill this aspect of
the prophecy, its worldwide
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dominance, its worldwide
strength, though, that is
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winning somewhat. And the
number 6 notice in verse 11,
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it's a lab like our now in
Bible prophecy, especially here
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in Revelation, 13 lab like
symbolizes Jesus. The whole
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book of revelation begins by
identifying the lamb as Jesus
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Christ, who was slain. So
this talks about Christian
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qualities, this new powers
to be a power that had Christian
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qualities, a nation that exuded
from its foundation, its roots,
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the principles of liberty and
freedom, religious liberty and
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freedom and civil Liberty and
Freedom. Jesus Christ came to
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set us free to restore a nice
the freedom of choice according
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to John 8.36. And then number
7, this is the final clue.
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This power is going to change
in character from a lamb to a
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dragon. It's going to I have 2
was like a lamb, but it's going
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to speak like a dragon. Of
course, the nation's speaks to
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its legislative body. And
so this prediction of Bible
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prophecy that the nation
of America is going to us what
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that once embraced religious
freedom, freedom of speech,
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freedom of assembly, it was
now going to become a persecutor
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specifically of God's
commandment up people as we'll
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see when we compare this was
a revelation 12 for 17. So one
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point that I think it's really
important for our viewers right
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now. Danny Rind you on
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to to recognize as we go
into this program, that's this.
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The United States rose to power
when there was another kingdom,
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the papacy that was wholly
Christian and control lead the
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world with its Christianity and
United States broke free from
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that. We're not going to do
that. But it also rose to power
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when there was another kingdom.
I e atheist, France that was
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seeking to throw got off to be
completely secular and have no
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religious boundaries
whatsoever. The United States
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walked right between those 2
powers. It did not force people
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to worship. God did not force
Christianity, young people.
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And at the same time it did
not throw got off altogether.
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That is the route that is the
history that's the foundation
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of this country. And tonight as
we talk about, is it important
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or is it about right for
Christians to enforce morality?
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We're going to have to walk
right between those 2 extremes.
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Just like our founding fathers
did in 17. 76 and on came out.
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>> Ryan, right before you
do for those of you at home,
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if you would like to e-mail the
U.S. questions in said I think
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we can do that should put it
up on the screen. You can e-mail
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your questions live at 3 ABN
DOT TV and they'll bring them
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out to us and event. We're
going to try to get through as
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much as we can. It may be
awhile before we get to the
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questions. But at least you'll
be we're going to be first come
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first served. We already have
a few. So I would like you to do
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is call in your questions.
Your comments. Thank you,
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James. That was very
clear and very helpful.
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>> Ryan, what do you want to
add to that? I don't know what
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that I mean. That was pretty
much revelation 13 in like 15
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minutes. I know. I mean, just
to just to echo what he said,
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I think it's a spot on the see
this first beast going down and
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17. 98 to see the second beast
coming up around the same time.
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There's no other nation that
fits the biblical description
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and that of the United States
of America. It's when you get
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into these latter chap letter
versus of revelation, 13 more
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specifically revelation 12
and on where you see the second
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beast exercising all the
authority of the first beast,
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this this kingdom or this
nation that was essentially set
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up as a as one Johnson. He
described as being on land like
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Christ, like with Christ,
like Principles, a crisis like
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character, at least in the
beginning begins to take on the
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change over time, which would
eventually begins to speak as a
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track in which we've already
mentioned. I find that very
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interesting because I believe
we're living in those times.
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I believe that our nation in
the within the past couple of
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decades has begun to show
through its legislation and
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through the nature of it of the
changing morals that are very
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much shifting in a different
direction. The spiritual
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temperature of this nation is
screaming Dragon. The devil is
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is that he is working harder
than ever before to set the
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stage for the final
that's Bible prophecy.
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>> In 1984, I didn't know
anything about television ad
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saying on it and traveled
and my daughter a nice to go.
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But I would always say,
Lord, where are we a 7th day
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Adventist in the media should
maybe the heads and not details
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that we have an entire message.
The 3 Angeles messages, we have
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an end-times message for an
end times people. Why are we out
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there on television on radio
worldwide getting this message
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out? Always thus, you know,
with that thought about that.
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And the Lord and Press made us
and November November of 1984,
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went to build a television
station. Now, this meant very
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little to me at the time.
I'm just now understanding
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after almost 40 years later is
why bring it up? But I want to
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build a television station that
will reach the world within and
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diluted 3 angels
messages. One would counteract a
00:25:13.31\00:25:17.21
counterfeit. I when I heard
that, I said all I heard was
00:25:17.21\00:25:21.72
counteracted counterfeit.
So at that time, I said,
00:25:21.72\00:25:24.85
well, we started going to
church is we're going to build
00:25:24.85\00:25:27.22
this television station, reach
the world. We're going to know
00:25:27.22\00:25:30.39
counteract the Jim and
Tammy Baker. We're going to
00:25:30.39\00:25:33.83
counteract, you know,
Jimmy Swaggart. We're going to
00:25:33.83\00:25:36.56
counteract ABN. We're going
to give the truth about the 10
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Commandments and the Sabbath.
And I went about 3 or 4 weeks
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to different churches. In one
night. I had a dream and then
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this train. I was out and Apple
orchard and I was talking to
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God. It didn't say it was just
me and him and they zappos were
00:25:49.64\00:25:53.48
like none I've ever
seen. They were this big around
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beautiful red right there.
Trees were so heavy laden that
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they were hanging down like
this. So I can just walk over
00:26:00.22\00:26:04.03
and pick all these apples.
00:26:04.03\00:26:06.53
So I said,
Lord, what's this main
00:26:06.53\00:26:09.76
and what the Lord impress
me? And I have to paraphrase,
00:26:09.76\00:26:12.47
because
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the way that the best way I
can I can ever say what God said
00:26:13.64\00:26:17.34
exactly. But but other words
in my humanness, what he said to
00:26:17.34\00:26:20.74
me was your your mission is not
to go counter at people who are
00:26:20.74\00:26:26.55
giving the gospel no
matter what that person is like.
00:26:26.55\00:26:30.85
So and it took me way. What you
mean? Because what happened is
00:26:30.85\00:26:34.96
he says my word will not return
to a void. So I decided after
00:26:34.96\00:26:39.39
that if I hired an atheist
actor to do nothing but read
00:26:39.39\00:26:43.10
the Bible, 24 7, there would
be people watch it and come to
00:26:43.10\00:26:46.47
Jesus because it's not about
the messenger. It's about the
00:26:46.47\00:26:49.80
message. So that taught me, OK,
my job is not to go out now and
00:26:49.80\00:26:55.78
try to talk about these
ministries. The ripe red
00:26:55.78\00:26:58.31
apples. The Lord presented
to me represents people who have
00:26:58.31\00:27:02.65
already come off of drugs
and alcohol who have already
00:27:02.65\00:27:06.32
accepted me. They general read,
right? Apple is ready to be put
00:27:06.32\00:27:10.53
to give them the anti message,
the 3 angels messages to the
00:27:10.53\00:27:14.40
world. So here I'm trying
to fight people who because
00:27:14.40\00:27:18.60
they're given the word. Maybe
not always correct that people
00:27:18.60\00:27:21.57
have been touched by blast
by so now that part understood.
00:27:21.57\00:27:26.91
But all these years, one
is given and diluted 3 Angeles
00:27:26.91\00:27:31.11
messages. One would counteract
the counterfeit. Now, when you
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look at all the churches
and all the Christian churches,
00:27:34.72\00:27:37.29
Protestant church, Catholic
churches, I can't think of any
00:27:37.29\00:27:40.26
other ones given the 3 Angeles
messages as their focus moves.
00:27:40.26\00:27:44.29
So if it's a given and diluted
3 in those messages, that must
00:27:44.29\00:27:48.36
mean there's a diluted one,
right? I mean, that's what it
00:27:48.36\00:27:52.60
means. But I do understand
that at the time now have to.
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>> Confess to out of the car
might trade. I could argue with
00:27:56.27\00:27:59.51
you about to Sabbath. I
could argue and I'm saying this,
00:27:59.51\00:28:02.34
argue what about we say our
game. You say arguing aren't
00:28:02.34\00:28:05.98
haha out the Sabbath and nobody
can argue about the state of
00:28:05.98\00:28:10.19
the day. And I could argue with
you about these things. But to
00:28:10.19\00:28:13.46
as far as really knowing
and understanding that new
00:28:13.46\00:28:16.62
revelation, I didn't at
that time. 33 years old. So why
00:28:16.62\00:28:20.66
would the Lord impress me?
So I knew it wasn't something
00:28:20.66\00:28:23.20
that I heard before because I
didn't even know what it meant.
00:28:23.20\00:28:26.47
I want you to give an
and diluted 3 inches messages
00:28:26.47\00:28:29.04
finally understanding because
we're at the point in our
00:28:29.04\00:28:32.54
history that I'm saying that,
you know, we've been looking in
00:28:32.54\00:28:37.65
and talking about all these
other churches that are getting
00:28:37.65\00:28:40.28
away from the Commandments
of God, teachers that are false
00:28:40.28\00:28:43.15
teachers and false preachers.
And suddenly it's occurred to
00:28:43.15\00:28:45.99
me. We have those too.
00:28:45.99\00:28:49.36
Yeah. All right. We have those,
too. So how can that be if we
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know what's going on? So I
want to get on to topic hair.
00:28:54.00\00:28:56.97
That's very, very
controversial. But I got my my
00:28:56.97\00:29:00.67
strong man here to help us.
We have a strong man here to
00:29:00.67\00:29:04.21
help the U.S.. But one of the
things that's going around and
00:29:04.21\00:29:08.01
I've talked to a number of
pastors about this, and it's
00:29:08.01\00:29:11.05
it's it's
00:29:11.05\00:29:12.91
I don't want to say popular,
but it's being more and more
00:29:12.91\00:29:15.85
accepted is that there are
people who are standing up and
00:29:15.85\00:29:19.25
they're saying that talking
about first of all the and
00:29:19.25\00:29:23.22
we're going to talk about that
tonight. What's this new thing
00:29:23.22\00:29:25.66
Project, 2020 white
nationalist, the talk about now
00:29:25.66\00:29:30.17
they say nationalists, but when
you really hear there's Chin
00:29:30.17\00:29:32.50
national. Well, yeah, but what
I'm saying, what people write
00:29:32.50\00:29:35.20
me and say you're a white
nationalist, you know, so well,
00:29:35.20\00:29:39.47
I'm a Christian. And, you
know, they'll say you're a white
00:29:39.47\00:29:43.14
Christian nationalist them.
But you fit the mold of a of a
00:29:43.14\00:29:46.82
Republican White Christian
nationalists. You know, so and
00:29:46.82\00:29:51.39
you know, whatever else.
00:29:51.39\00:29:53.15
So I'm not really I can say
tonight I can speak for you all
00:29:53.15\00:29:56.42
but invited me where
independent. So we don't really
00:29:56.42\00:29:59.46
go with either side of the
other. Do we have tendencies
00:29:59.46\00:30:01.83
certain things we agree with?
Yes, there are certain to maybe
00:30:01.83\00:30:05.53
even on both sides. But there
are some things we can talk
00:30:05.53\00:30:08.10
about later on, but where
we are not on either side. So I
00:30:08.10\00:30:12.27
feel like we can set back and
get a better picture because I
00:30:12.27\00:30:15.78
don't have an agenda. So when
we're talking politics, I don't
00:30:15.78\00:30:19.08
have an agenda. But so you
have people saying that what is
00:30:19.08\00:30:23.15
happening in America as I even
saw the other night on Facebook
00:30:23.15\00:30:27.42
guy was riding the said
it's going to be the white a
00:30:27.42\00:30:31.59
nationalist Republicans and
it's going to be Donald Trump
00:30:31.59\00:30:35.66
who brings in the national
Sunday low. I believe he's
00:30:35.66\00:30:38.13
going to get back in and he's
going to bring about a national
00:30:38.13\00:30:40.97
Sunday on and this. Is that
an honest? So I'm saying now,
00:30:40.97\00:30:44.24
how in the world do we get
that? We think we're so smart
00:30:44.24\00:30:47.01
that we know prophecy so well,
we can even name names of who's
00:30:47.01\00:30:50.31
going to bring in a national
Sunday law. So for my little
00:30:50.31\00:30:53.95
bit of reading, I'm not a
scholar by any means, but it
00:30:53.95\00:30:56.69
says the United States of
America. I didn't say it said
00:30:56.69\00:30:59.35
the Democrat going to bring
in, you know, this and a lot.
00:30:59.35\00:31:02.96
I don't see this as Republicans
are bringing in. I think it's
00:31:02.96\00:31:06.03
that horn represents the United
States of America. So that
00:31:06.03\00:31:10.27
would seem to me that it
would be the country as a whole,
00:31:10.27\00:31:14.60
that there will be some
compromises some going forward.
00:31:14.60\00:31:17.41
But what I want to talk about
some throw a bunch out. You've
00:31:17.41\00:31:20.41
got and then you run with
it. You jump in when you want.
00:31:20.41\00:31:23.55
But one of the things that
I'm hearing is and he's very
00:31:23.55\00:31:26.35
popular right now that has
America, we call it and it came
00:31:26.35\00:31:31.12
out of the earth that Spake
as a dragon that the teaching is
00:31:31.12\00:31:35.69
that is mince. It's always
spoke as a dragon because of
00:31:35.69\00:31:39.43
slavery. It's
always focus the dragon.
00:31:39.43\00:31:42.83
And yet I don't find that to
be true. And I look back and we
00:31:42.83\00:31:45.90
use sometimes that Venice, some
of you are. But we look back at
00:31:45.90\00:31:49.14
some of our prophetic what
we believe is proved prophetic
00:31:49.14\00:31:52.34
information given to us.
And I went back and look and
00:31:52.34\00:31:54.91
see what Ellen might says about
it. And she says this is the
00:31:54.91\00:31:57.85
most to the blast country and,
you know, on Earth. And I think
00:31:57.85\00:32:01.85
most of us know that. So I
think we're heading into and
00:32:01.85\00:32:06.39
you said a few minutes ago,
brother Ryan, we see signs of a
00:32:06.39\00:32:10.69
dragon coming but to look back.
And so somebody said you're
00:32:10.69\00:32:14.40
nationalist as well. I
am. I looked up to in the
00:32:14.40\00:32:17.97
dictionary to see what it says.
It's somebody who support your
00:32:17.97\00:32:21.07
country. So I grew up
in America. So if I watched
00:32:21.07\00:32:25.24
Americans play basketball in
the Olympics, I'm rooting for
00:32:25.24\00:32:28.18
the Americans. When we
were at war, I'm rooting for the
00:32:28.18\00:32:30.71
Americans. So if that's
nationalist, I am. If they've
00:32:30.71\00:32:33.45
gotten country and family of
that wants to put me somewhere
00:32:33.45\00:32:36.79
on some side of politics,
you can do that if you want to.
00:32:36.79\00:32:39.89
But but that's that's not where
I am. But what I'm saying and
00:32:39.89\00:32:42.96
it is it very popular right
now. And I'll tell you why I I
00:32:42.96\00:32:47.30
think we have to talk about it
and the interesting to see what
00:32:47.30\00:32:50.40
you guys say. But when you
leave and you're taught that
00:32:50.40\00:32:54.27
America's always spoken as
the dragon and you're a minority
00:32:54.27\00:32:58.27
and it's over slavery,
then you have no respect for our
00:32:58.27\00:33:01.88
country. You have no type of
the other words. Everything is
00:33:01.88\00:33:06.31
bad about this country and
nothing. You can do it ever
00:33:06.31\00:33:09.32
satisfied because this has
always been the devils country
00:33:09.32\00:33:12.85
cause. He's always been in
charge of it when I believe
00:33:12.85\00:33:15.99
that's a lie. And I think
that that is will cause division
00:33:15.99\00:33:20.13
within the church. And so
I would like to hear you guys
00:33:20.13\00:33:22.73
talk about that because
you mentioned the other day.
00:33:22.73\00:33:25.90
It's not really about race,
but yet we're making it race.
00:33:25.90\00:33:30.27
Current current culture and
politics is what's causing this
00:33:30.27\00:33:34.94
division. But and have you guys
heard that people are talking
00:33:34.94\00:33:37.98
about that? So it up. I would
like to hear what each of you
00:33:37.98\00:33:41.65
think about when it says in its
focus, the dragon, how when and
00:33:41.65\00:33:45.22
where will this happen and
how do we know when it happened?
00:33:45.22\00:33:49.16
>> Well, for sure, we
are divided over race, right?
00:33:49.16\00:33:52.76
And I know from my own
experience that this country
00:33:52.76\00:33:56.43
has shapes my history. I
was born on Camp Pendleton, a
00:33:56.43\00:34:02.44
United States Marine Corps
base. My mom was white. My dad
00:34:02.44\00:34:05.17
was black. N****** is what it
says on my birth certificate in
00:34:05.17\00:34:08.64
and 10 months of age. My mom
took me to England because she
00:34:08.64\00:34:11.41
didn't want to me to be raised
in this country because she
00:34:11.41\00:34:14.02
felt like the this is before
Martin Luther King and the
00:34:14.02\00:34:18.52
freedoms of the 60 Late 60's.
And so she raised me there.
00:34:18.52\00:34:22.86
And I remember as a young man
was about 11 years old, we came
00:34:22.86\00:34:25.66
back to America and at 69
the choice between going back to
00:34:25.66\00:34:29.60
England with my mother or
was she moved back to England or
00:34:29.60\00:34:33.30
staying here? And it was such
a simple choice. And it, you
00:34:33.30\00:34:37.47
know, with all that we
have gone through as a family
00:34:37.47\00:34:39.71
because my dad and mom would
never be able were never able
00:34:39.71\00:34:42.51
to stay together because he
was black and she was white.
00:34:42.51\00:34:45.55
There was no question in my
mind that America was the best
00:34:45.55\00:34:48.72
place to live and I never
regretted. That decision was
00:34:48.72\00:34:51.59
places. Liberty was a place of
freedom. Yes, there was racism.
00:34:51.59\00:34:54.72
Yes, that would difficulties.
There were things that we need
00:34:54.72\00:34:57.06
to work through as a nation
and you're going to find that in
00:34:57.06\00:35:00.43
every nation. But the
principles, the foundational
00:35:00.43\00:35:02.70
principles of liberty
and freedom or intact, right.
00:35:02.70\00:35:06.57
And that's what allowed me
to prosper in this country.
00:35:06.57\00:35:09.20
Those freedoms,
those principles.
00:35:09.20\00:35:11.31
>> That.
00:35:11.31\00:35:12.67
>> Our stab lish in this
prophecy in revelation chapter
00:35:12.67\00:35:15.38
13 U.S. principles of liberty
and freedom. So I know as a
00:35:15.38\00:35:19.75
minority, I know as someone
who is from a mixture race that
00:35:19.75\00:35:24.45
that is half black and half
white. I know that America is a
00:35:24.45\00:35:27.96
great place to live even
in relation to Europe. It's a
00:35:27.96\00:35:31.26
great place to live. I
think that when you look at
00:35:31.26\00:35:34.10
revelation Chapter 13,
what you're looking at is a
00:35:34.10\00:35:37.17
progression from where we
were as a nation. And of course,
00:35:37.17\00:35:40.87
we started in 17. 76. It took
us 8 years to get independents.
00:35:40.87\00:35:43.97
And then we had to fight
again in 18, 12 in 18. 0, 7, The
00:35:43.97\00:35:47.48
British did away with slavery
with will will before we will
00:35:47.48\00:35:50.91
before us. And but we had a
strong contention in the south
00:35:50.91\00:35:54.48
that was against it. But, you
know, coming in 18, 63, when we
00:35:54.48\00:35:58.79
did side Emancipation
Proclamation and hundreds of
00:35:58.79\00:36:01.99
thousands of white people
died to free the slaves. We have
00:36:01.99\00:36:05.69
continued to progress
from there. When you looking at
00:36:05.69\00:36:07.93
racism, a lot of it happens
to be in certain areas of the
00:36:07.93\00:36:11.00
United States because those
people didn't want to give up
00:36:11.00\00:36:14.64
the slave trade like the
northern half of United States
00:36:14.64\00:36:17.71
did. And as you move further
and further gets better and
00:36:17.71\00:36:20.41
better and this more and more
freedom and liberty coming out
00:36:20.41\00:36:23.71
of the principles of the
foundation of this country.
00:36:23.71\00:36:26.55
And as soon as you start doing
with those principles and those
00:36:26.55\00:36:29.15
those foundational liberties
that have been given us freedom
00:36:29.15\00:36:32.55
of speech, freedom of assembly,
you know, freedom to 2, 2 to
00:36:32.55\00:36:36.69
worship as we want. We're
not worship at all. You begin to
00:36:36.69\00:36:40.30
speak like a dragon. And
that's exactly what we can see.
00:36:40.30\00:36:43.63
You know, right mentioned
earlier, we're seeing that that
00:36:43.63\00:36:46.03
we're hearing a voice to drag
coming in with the elimination
00:36:46.03\00:36:49.10
of these freedoms and a lot
of these women, a lot of this
00:36:49.10\00:36:51.87
eliminations
coming unfortunately.
00:36:51.87\00:36:53.98
>> Under that under the
00:36:53.98\00:36:56.28
>> hospice s of racism
when it's not racism at all, it
00:36:56.28\00:36:59.51
might be racism in a sense
that it's racism against white
00:36:59.51\00:37:02.78
people. Unfortunately, that's
what we see developing now.
00:37:02.78\00:37:05.42
And I know we're getting some
some hot buttons here. This is
00:37:05.42\00:37:08.36
what you're
seeing it at right now.
00:37:08.36\00:37:11.09
>> No people be mad at me if
I say that. So go ahead. Haha,
00:37:11.09\00:37:15.40
I think I said get away
with the ice. I think you place.
00:37:15.40\00:37:19.40
>> In one sense. So I feel bad
that as a young person, I was
00:37:19.40\00:37:24.07
divided between black and
white. But when I became a
00:37:24.07\00:37:27.28
Christian, all that went away,
I was proud to be black and I
00:37:27.28\00:37:30.68
was proud to be white. I was
proud of my mother. I was proud
00:37:30.68\00:37:33.78
of my father. I was a
Christian. Now I have to hide
00:37:33.78\00:37:36.85
any of that. Because in Christ,
we're all the same. Doesn't
00:37:36.85\00:37:39.65
matter for J** or gentile.
This a matter for slave or
00:37:39.65\00:37:43.56
free. It doesn't matter from
it, male or female. We're all
00:37:43.56\00:37:46.19
the same in Christ. So
it's really hard, I think almost
00:37:46.19\00:37:50.73
overwhelming for me to see this
division taking place within
00:37:50.73\00:37:53.57
our church, OK, if it's in the
world, but within our church.
00:37:53.57\00:37:57.04
Yeah, it's just not acceptable
to to make to make these.
00:37:57.04\00:38:01.88
>> Final events of Bible
prophecy special. What we're
00:38:01.88\00:38:03.85
reading him Revelation, 11
revolution, 13 versus 11 and
00:38:03.85\00:38:07.65
onward to try to make this a
race issue is just incredible
00:38:07.65\00:38:12.49
to me when we're not denying
this and I want to make this
00:38:12.49\00:38:16.42
very clear as a history major
in college, I had to write a
00:38:16.42\00:38:18.86
many a paper in and give them
any a debate topic on on the
00:38:18.86\00:38:23.13
the the history of the United
States. And I want to just make
00:38:23.13\00:38:26.57
this very clear as an American
citizen, I love my country.
00:38:26.57\00:38:30.11
I'm going to an American
through and through and I'm
00:38:30.11\00:38:31.94
proud to be an American.
I'm not proud of some of that
00:38:31.94\00:38:34.78
history. I'm just not what
I look back at some of those,
00:38:34.78\00:38:37.95
though, that when I read about
00:38:37.95\00:38:39.98
the extreme cases of slavery
that went on for a large chunk
00:38:39.98\00:38:45.95
of the early part of this, this
nation's history, that's a dark
00:38:45.95\00:38:49.29
time that I'm not proud of
his an American, but nonetheless
00:38:49.29\00:38:54.56
praise the lord. We've
we've we've grown out of that.
00:38:54.56\00:38:57.13
We've come out of that things.
00:38:57.13\00:38:58.50
>> Have changed. In fact, it's
interesting that people think
00:38:58.50\00:39:02.17
it can be said that there's
more freedom in this country
00:39:02.17\00:39:04.27
there has been before. But
what's interesting is that many
00:39:04.27\00:39:07.44
people want to go back and say,
well, there, you know, we say
00:39:07.44\00:39:09.98
we're Christian nation, but
then they're slavery. There's
00:39:09.98\00:39:11.65
all these bad things that we
allowed these people to claim
00:39:11.65\00:39:13.98
to be Christian allowed in
this nation. But wouldn't what's
00:39:13.98\00:39:16.72
interesting is there was a
sense again, there might have
00:39:16.72\00:39:19.42
been up flawed view of way
to carry that that Christianity
00:39:19.42\00:39:22.76
out. But there was a very
solid crisis like Christian
00:39:22.76\00:39:26.66
Foundation and morals that was
very much established in this
00:39:26.66\00:39:29.86
nation. It's interesting that
the morph freedom that has been
00:39:29.86\00:39:33.17
opened up for people,
00:39:33.17\00:39:35.64
the morals have went the
opposite direction. And because
00:39:35.64\00:39:38.74
when you give freedom where
there is true freedom, there's
00:39:38.74\00:39:41.44
that involves risk risk
of people not taking that
00:39:41.44\00:39:45.25
responsibility of the freedom.
They've been given to exercise
00:39:45.25\00:39:48.78
it in such a way that they have
the freedom to choose to serve
00:39:48.78\00:39:52.12
God or to not serve. Got to
to do that, which is right or to
00:39:52.12\00:39:54.92
not do that. That which is
right. What's interesting to
00:39:54.92\00:39:57.49
this is me or what
would what Sichuan is this
00:39:57.49\00:40:00.36
when you get in revelation 13,
look at these 2 horns. I want
00:40:00.36\00:40:03.73
to read something from spread
across the volume for page 27
00:40:03.73\00:40:06.23
here. It says the action is to
77 spread across the volume for
00:40:06.23\00:40:10.31
pitch to 77. She says that
she's in the lab like horns,
00:40:10.31\00:40:13.94
emblems of innocence and
gentleness well represented the
00:40:13.94\00:40:17.71
character of our government
K as expressed in its 2
00:40:17.71\00:40:21.58
fundamental
principles, Republicanism and
00:40:21.58\00:40:24.35
Protestantism. Sort of
those 2 would represent the 2
00:40:24.35\00:40:27.42
principles on which this nation
was built. Republicanism and
00:40:27.42\00:40:30.63
promised is a male. Don't be
don't be taken by taking off by
00:40:30.63\00:40:34.63
the word Republicanism. It's
all talk about the Republican
00:40:34.63\00:40:36.90
Party talking about the
remember. I pledge allegiance
00:40:36.90\00:40:39.77
to the flag of the United
States of America and to the
00:40:39.77\00:40:42.30
Republic for which it stands.
What's a Republican? Our nation
00:40:42.30\00:40:45.57
was this. Where are the the
nature of our a government was
00:40:45.57\00:40:49.61
a Democratic, a process that
was built upon a Republican,
00:40:49.61\00:40:54.05
the Republican, meaning it's
giving the power to the people.
00:40:54.05\00:40:56.99
So when you go over to Europe
during the dark ages, it was
00:40:56.99\00:40:59.85
the papacy that was in
forcing religion on people and
00:40:59.85\00:41:04.36
oppressing people. Anna Faris
takeaway with religion to the
00:41:04.36\00:41:07.73
point to again, more than
50 million people over a period
00:41:07.73\00:41:10.90
of time, the dark ages parish
because of an enforcement,
00:41:10.90\00:41:13.80
a dragon likened forsman
religion. This new mission to
00:41:13.80\00:41:17.07
comes up out of the earth.
Now that it's created the rise
00:41:17.07\00:41:20.11
up out of the earth and its
established off the set of fit.
00:41:20.11\00:41:23.35
First of that beast over the
sea, they rise step out of the
00:41:23.35\00:41:27.02
sea among the peoples among
the nations of the multitude and
00:41:27.02\00:41:29.72
NASA's this nation establishes
would want to be like that.
00:41:29.72\00:41:32.79
We want to we want to establish
a nation that's built up on a
00:41:32.79\00:41:35.82
republicanism which is giving
the power now to the people not
00:41:35.82\00:41:39.13
to a dictatorship or a few, you
know, elite people that's going
00:41:39.13\00:41:42.30
to misuse and abuse their
power. It put the power of the
00:41:42.30\00:41:45.13
people, but the power in
the people's hands and to bring
00:41:45.13\00:41:48.27
about freedom of religion which
brought about the Protestant
00:41:48.27\00:41:51.31
movement. Now,
here's what's interesting.
00:41:51.31\00:41:54.61
Let's fast forward when
you give the people power
00:41:54.61\00:41:59.35
now. And that's a great thing.
But if those people that are
00:41:59.35\00:42:02.38
given the power are not
now living, according to those
00:42:02.38\00:42:07.16
biblical principles as was
established in the beginning,
00:42:07.16\00:42:10.49
but they fall away from it.
They push religion out. They
00:42:10.49\00:42:13.53
push Christ out. They push
the commandments out. Now the
00:42:13.53\00:42:16.36
nature of the spiritual, the
character of the body of people
00:42:16.36\00:42:21.10
is now going to tell their
00:42:21.10\00:42:23.41
>> their their leaders,
their their legislators.
00:42:23.41\00:42:27.24
>> How to do what a pass and
what to do. That's what we're
00:42:27.24\00:42:30.21
seeing here in terms of
this, this this conversation of
00:42:30.21\00:42:32.95
Christian nationalism and this
whole conversation of now being
00:42:32.95\00:42:36.89
just the second least
speaking as the first dragon or
00:42:36.89\00:42:40.32
exercising all the authority.
What we're seeing is the power
00:42:40.32\00:42:43.36
of the people who have now
pushed religion now who have
00:42:43.36\00:42:45.83
pushed Christ out, who are now
basically abandoning the law of
00:42:45.83\00:42:49.56
God. This nation that once
was lamb like it's starting to
00:42:49.56\00:42:53.20
speak like a beast. It's coming
from the power of the people
00:42:53.20\00:42:56.40
that is pressing their
legislators to now start pass
00:42:56.40\00:42:59.81
laws that go against got
more as we go again, Scott
00:42:59.81\00:43:02.64
standards. So now we're in the
speak scenario where it's like,
00:43:02.64\00:43:06.48
wait a second. The church is
now being affected. That's what
00:43:06.48\00:43:09.22
we're talking about it.
What point does the church allow
00:43:09.22\00:43:12.35
poacher to dictate its
principles and where they
00:43:12.35\00:43:15.52
stand? When you allow the
culture of the people who are
00:43:15.52\00:43:18.29
not reflecting the character of
the lamb, but now the character
00:43:18.29\00:43:21.63
of the dragon telling their
legislators to pass laws to fly
00:43:21.63\00:43:24.57
in the face of God's commands
and in and you're allowing that
00:43:24.57\00:43:28.54
to happen. And the church
is now being oppressed and been
00:43:28.54\00:43:31.64
oppressed, but being in a
influenced strongly by the
00:43:31.64\00:43:34.31
culture. Now we have to
speak up and say, wait a second,
00:43:34.31\00:43:37.41
we hatched separation of church
and state, but now it seems
00:43:37.41\00:43:39.81
like we're allowing the culture
to calm moving in slowly like a
00:43:39.81\00:43:44.29
almost like a cancer, like like
a virus. It's coming in slowly
00:43:44.29\00:43:48.92
and it's starting to slowly.
But surely this this dragon
00:43:48.92\00:43:53.09
like mentality is bleeding
into the church to have people
00:43:53.09\00:43:56.60
compromising the plain truth
of God's word and a free country
00:43:56.60\00:44:01.04
more than ever before.
00:44:01.04\00:44:02.27
>> What more freedoms more?
The more I love it. I want to
00:44:02.27\00:44:04.94
go back to well, you said it
spoke to, you know, as a dragon
00:44:04.94\00:44:10.78
and I look at this, America's
journey with slavery with race
00:44:10.78\00:44:16.05
as a Christian.
00:44:16.05\00:44:18.09
Let's say that I'm not a
Christian, but today have
00:44:18.09\00:44:21.36
become Christian. I'm
still going to have some of the
00:44:21.36\00:44:23.86
things in my life. But as I
go farther and farther in my
00:44:23.86\00:44:27.60
Christian walk become
00:44:27.60\00:44:30.27
become more like Christ.
Well, when it came to slavery,
00:44:30.27\00:44:33.97
people's like, OK, finally,
we're getting it after, you
00:44:33.97\00:44:36.87
know, so many years, but
has taken a tremendous out. But
00:44:36.87\00:44:39.87
it's not a stand in your face
and just rejected because what
00:44:39.87\00:44:43.68
God doesn't, you know,
sanctification, you know,
00:44:43.68\00:44:47.05
it is fine that's working on
the lifetime and God bless this
00:44:47.05\00:44:50.85
nation. But if we had stood
up in the face and said, forget
00:44:50.85\00:44:54.32
it, and the South one, no
slavery is here. I think God
00:44:54.32\00:44:57.89
would withdraw his blessings,
but he didn't because we've
00:44:57.89\00:45:01.00
continued to move on. So
now for many years, you've got,
00:45:01.00\00:45:06.37
you know, now you've got this
limelight beast with that soft
00:45:06.37\00:45:11.27
nature that, you know, good
nature with all the Christian
00:45:11.27\00:45:14.64
principles. But then people
want to say, and these same
00:45:14.64\00:45:19.28
people that I've been listening
to this talking about, well,
00:45:19.28\00:45:22.35
slavery is, you know, it's
always United States spoken as
00:45:22.35\00:45:26.15
a as a dragon.
00:45:26.15\00:45:27.89
Those same people are saying,
well, what's happening is it's
00:45:27.89\00:45:31.79
going to be the Christian,
right? You know, who brings the
00:45:31.79\00:45:34.93
Nationals Sunday lull. And as
again, as I mentioned, some of
00:45:34.93\00:45:38.50
them even name
names. And so there
00:45:38.50\00:45:42.70
headed this way, it has to
be. So if people disagree, you
00:45:42.70\00:45:47.71
know, people get really upset
because you've got people now
00:45:47.71\00:45:50.51
on the other side said, wait
a minute, the left is on Godly,
00:45:50.51\00:45:53.38
the goddess and the right do so
in general, it seems to me what
00:45:53.38\00:45:58.29
happened is that the country,
you know what? Basically,
00:45:58.29\00:46:02.62
as you said, Christian,
though, we had lots of false and
00:46:02.62\00:46:04.96
failures, but as things
really begin to go to pot, so to
00:46:04.96\00:46:08.16
speak, maybe literally
back in the 60's 70's, then the
00:46:08.16\00:46:13.07
Christian leadership said we've
got to stop this. Something's
00:46:13.07\00:46:16.10
got to happen. So I'm old
enough. And some of you are
00:46:16.10\00:46:19.01
too, to remember Jerry
Falwell and the mayor and Moral
00:46:19.01\00:46:22.68
majority. So Hudson, millions
of people to follow him.
00:46:22.68\00:46:27.68
We have got to make America get
it back to a Christian nation.
00:46:27.68\00:46:31.72
So we are going to legislate
laws, including a Sabbath rest,
00:46:31.72\00:46:36.93
which team it was a
Sunday rest. Then there came Pat
00:46:36.93\00:46:40.16
Robertson. So this is probably
late 80's. So people said to
00:46:40.16\00:46:43.47
me, man, you got some infants
are just glad we got to a
00:46:43.47\00:46:47.17
Christian. You know, I could
say a white Christian since
00:46:47.17\00:46:49.70
everybody is making a race
thing but along. So you we've
00:46:49.70\00:46:52.77
got a Christian, somebody
you should really night and this
00:46:52.77\00:46:56.51
guy is going for run for
president. And I think 3 ABN,
00:46:56.51\00:47:00.78
you all ought to stand behind
that. You have been a stand
00:47:00.78\00:47:02.82
behind it. And I was a
bad guy because I said no,
00:47:02.82\00:47:06.19
I will not support either
one of those guys. Now I support
00:47:06.19\00:47:09.92
what they do in getting
the gospel. But what they're
00:47:09.92\00:47:12.56
wanting to do is they're
wanting to turn this country
00:47:12.56\00:47:16.06
into that speaking like a
dragon, right, because they
00:47:16.06\00:47:18.87
want to legislate. So if
I understand it, right, what
00:47:18.87\00:47:22.40
really makes will show that the
country is speaking as a dragon
00:47:22.40\00:47:26.71
is when they begin to
legislate laws that are anti.
00:47:26.71\00:47:29.98
>> God's law. And on that same
point, you know, we brought up
00:47:29.98\00:47:33.35
the race issue earlier and to
return to that still linger too
00:47:33.35\00:47:36.48
long. But it will make mention
it's interesting that, you
00:47:36.48\00:47:39.12
know, I'm out, I'm out
there preaching and had many
00:47:39.12\00:47:40.99
conversations, many people in
the field. And it's amazing to
00:47:40.99\00:47:43.59
me the people that usually
a crying this, you know, we're
00:47:43.59\00:47:45.99
we're we're we spoke as a
dragon and its all making it a
00:47:45.99\00:47:48.43
race issue. And then and again,
I'm not denying that there's
00:47:48.43\00:47:50.80
racism in this
country, both home side.
00:47:50.80\00:47:53.40
>> But it wasn't in every
other country. Yeah, there was
00:47:53.40\00:47:55.77
slavery. And I think
Jay Passages brought this up
00:47:55.77\00:47:57.94
earlier. The United States of
America is not the only country
00:47:57.94\00:48:00.84
with a history of slavery.
There are dozens and dozens and
00:48:00.84\00:48:03.95
dozens of other countries
avenue. We have to leave Africa
00:48:03.95\00:48:07.12
reinflate the old to yeah.
And so again, it we just put
00:48:07.12\00:48:10.72
the spotlight on America and
of course, because rightly so in
00:48:10.72\00:48:13.59
this sense because we're
talking about Michael prophecy.
00:48:13.59\00:48:15.86
What's interesting is that the
the the the the nature of these
00:48:15.86\00:48:19.29
people that are coming out
in the ports that they're making
00:48:19.29\00:48:22.00
in trying to say that we can't
take this one side because it
00:48:22.00\00:48:26.20
seems to be about
white nationalism and white
00:48:26.20\00:48:27.94
supremacy. And these are the
same individuals that tend to
00:48:27.94\00:48:31.14
choose a side that are
legislating laws. The fly in
00:48:31.14\00:48:34.94
the face of got commitments.
In other words, people to
00:48:34.94\00:48:37.58
support abortion people to some
more port homosexuality and all
00:48:37.58\00:48:40.32
these other things. It has an
independent which is very clear
00:48:40.32\00:48:43.39
examples. There's probably
somebody right now. It's like
00:48:43.39\00:48:45.05
all right. They must be
Republican. I hate politics,
00:48:45.05\00:48:48.09
not despise politics. I've said
it from the beginning of time.
00:48:48.09\00:48:51.29
I'm not a Republican. I'm not
a Democrat. I'm a I'm a Christ.
00:48:51.29\00:48:54.60
A publican are or crushed
a crack about red state like
00:48:54.60\00:48:57.13
that. I'm a Bible-believing
Christian. I don't I do not get
00:48:57.13\00:49:01.24
on the bandwagon of one or the
other. At the end of the day,
00:49:01.24\00:49:03.67
I'm all about the Bible.
At the end of the day, I'm all
00:49:03.67\00:49:06.14
about making sure that we
as a people in this church are
00:49:06.14\00:49:09.01
sticking it hearing too of the
sea. If the lord of not getting
00:49:09.01\00:49:12.21
caught up in these cultural
pressures that are causing us
00:49:12.21\00:49:16.02
to choose sides and then
choosing the side. But what's
00:49:16.02\00:49:19.65
happening is littered the
spread of the north, the spirit
00:49:19.65\00:49:21.49
of south. When you get over to
Daniel 11, I know Pastor Pastor
00:49:21.49\00:49:25.36
Rafferty problem. I speak a
little bit on this before we
00:49:25.36\00:49:27.46
end tonight. When you get over
to Daniel 11, there's this king
00:49:27.46\00:49:30.10
of the north is king of the
south, the spirit of the north,
00:49:30.10\00:49:32.27
the spirit of stuff. You
have basically a pa state
00:49:32.27\00:49:35.20
Christianity versus atheism and
the devils working both sides.
00:49:35.20\00:49:38.64
Absolute demolition work at
both sides and people think a
00:49:38.64\00:49:41.54
lot. I'm a right what right
wing person because this is the
00:49:41.54\00:49:44.78
what is the party that Jesus
what you do? There's probably a
00:49:44.78\00:49:47.38
little bit right wing. There's
issues of the Pentagon and that
00:49:47.38\00:49:50.79
the Devils all up and then and
then for sure, when you get to
00:49:50.79\00:49:53.02
the left, you see the devil and
that Dotson in this one to make
00:49:53.02\00:49:55.42
that very clear, we're not here
to push politics are one side
00:49:55.42\00:49:58.03
of the other hand, but to
get back to the Bible, we cannot
00:49:58.03\00:50:01.16
get to the point where we make
it issues about certain things
00:50:01.16\00:50:04.40
that cause us to choose a side
that fall to the flies in the
00:50:04.40\00:50:07.44
face of God's commands and got
when we're not at that point.
00:50:07.44\00:50:11.01
Absolutely.
00:50:11.01\00:50:12.04
>> Absolutely true. And
I and so I have a different
00:50:12.04\00:50:16.61
perspective on race because I I
grew up during the civil rights
00:50:16.61\00:50:20.92
era. So I you
know, not that old honey.
00:50:20.92\00:50:25.12
>> Okay. That's a
really good. And so.
00:50:25.12\00:50:32.66
>> I am. So I lived in Alabama
for while I was from New York
00:50:32.66\00:50:36.87
originally and we moved to
Alabama in 1916 because my dad
00:50:36.87\00:50:40.90
went back to what
back-to-school Oakland
00:50:40.90\00:50:43.97
and I went to Huntsville
and I went into the town and
00:50:43.97\00:50:49.51
I just experienced segregation.
So I saw colored and white
00:50:49.51\00:50:55.25
fountains and my mother who
was very fair, could go into a
00:50:55.25\00:50:59.25
restaurant. She bring food
out to us because we couldn't go
00:50:59.25\00:51:01.92
in. So I I saw that,
00:51:01.92\00:51:04.36
however,
00:51:04.36\00:51:06.49
I've seen to how we've
grown and I'm really thankful.
00:51:06.49\00:51:10.50
I love America. I'm very
thankful to be an American.
00:51:10.50\00:51:13.97
I see the issues
that we have internally,
00:51:13.97\00:51:18.27
you know, culturally we have
external and internal issues.
00:51:18.27\00:51:22.54
So we can't say that. You know,
I think we make so much of race
00:51:22.54\00:51:28.52
so much. It's just we have
00:51:28.52\00:51:30.99
more melanin. It's a it's a
we make such a big deal was.
00:51:30.99\00:51:36.73
>> Yeah, it's different shades.
Yeah, you know, have that much.
00:51:36.73\00:51:41.10
>> Well, you know, plant.
But we we all we all have like
00:51:41.10\00:51:45.20
that.
00:51:45.20\00:51:46.50
We have cultural similarities
and some cultural differences,
00:51:46.50\00:51:50.01
but we should be Christians
first to actually be that,
00:51:50.01\00:51:54.38
you know, when I think of you
as my husband, I don't think my
00:51:54.38\00:51:56.88
wife husband and you are my
husband because race is race.
00:51:56.88\00:52:01.78
We make such a
big deal out of it
00:52:01.78\00:52:04.75
and we don't really need
to especially as Christians.
00:52:04.75\00:52:07.42
That is not to negate hear me,
please, because people will be
00:52:07.42\00:52:11.46
saying all she is she's denying
what's going on. Really not.
00:52:11.46\00:52:16.33
We have again internal issues
and external issues. The laws
00:52:16.33\00:52:22.20
in this country are really well
written now, 2 for equality.
00:52:22.20\00:52:27.21
The execution of
those lost sometimes
00:52:27.21\00:52:30.25
faulty. So, you know, we
do. We do have issues again
00:52:30.25\00:52:34.62
internally and externally, but
we need to be Christians first,
00:52:34.62\00:52:38.79
head of p***** me about this
with President Obama's second
00:52:38.79\00:52:43.59
term because the first term I
volunteered for his campaign 2,
00:52:43.59\00:52:48.33
big-time Democrat. I was well,
00:52:48.33\00:52:51.70
I was an Obama supporter
because I really had never been
00:52:51.70\00:52:55.34
involved with politics than
with C and it was historical.
00:52:55.34\00:52:59.47
And I was so happy to
see. I really never thought
00:52:59.47\00:53:05.11
we would in my lifetime.
We have black president,
00:53:05.11\00:53:08.05
but we did and that it has.
00:53:08.05\00:53:10.02
>> I was like I'm a white guy.
I was excited that I love this
00:53:10.02\00:53:12.75
year is one of the yeah.
He's way spoken. Man is a fresh
00:53:12.75\00:53:17.73
new perspective. Yes, it
was excited that it was exciting
00:53:17.73\00:53:21.20
until we got further him until
the second time. Then for the
00:53:21.20\00:53:25.67
second term. I really.
00:53:25.67\00:53:29.00
>> The Lord that was me was
that use his platform was well,
00:53:29.00\00:53:33.74
he was really pushing the
same the same sex marriage and
00:53:33.74\00:53:38.65
second term, the second time in
the first term he wasn't yeah.
00:53:38.65\00:53:44.12
At the first time I would have
supported it. But but the for
00:53:44.12\00:53:47.39
the second term,
I could not support
00:53:47.39\00:53:50.89
and I couldn't vote at all.
And I am I having come out of
00:53:50.89\00:53:55.00
the 60's. I'm a big proponent
of voted because people have
00:53:55.00\00:53:58.77
died so that we could
voter. So I'm a big proponent of
00:53:58.77\00:54:02.40
owning but
00:54:02.40\00:54:03.74
has a crisp. What comes
first. We have to ask ourselves
00:54:03.74\00:54:07.94
whether it's on the right on
the left. Is our culture come
00:54:07.94\00:54:11.21
first or does God come first
the word come first and it said
00:54:11.21\00:54:16.25
sometimes it causes you to have
to make a really big decision.
00:54:16.25\00:54:20.69
>> Absolutely. I'm all about
civil rights freedoms rights
00:54:20.69\00:54:25.56
given to each and every person.
Absolutely. We should never
00:54:25.56\00:54:28.03
take away free will.
00:54:28.03\00:54:29.66
But those
00:54:29.66\00:54:31.20
the praising in the
pushing and the the the the
00:54:31.20\00:54:36.34
really preaching for those
freedoms at the expense of the
00:54:36.34\00:54:39.67
morals of God's law. Why or
you have to turn a blind eye.
00:54:39.67\00:54:44.98
2 of us say of the Lord of
the Rings down Dacian a law of
00:54:44.98\00:54:48.82
God's government to get a
freedom over here for a an
00:54:48.82\00:54:52.45
issue that is not to be taken
lightly. Don't take it lightly.
00:54:52.45\00:54:55.69
But when you do it that
expense, that's when you have
00:54:55.69\00:54:57.99
any. That's right. And yes,
we can. We can proclaim these
00:54:57.99\00:55:00.90
freedoms but never at
the expense of cots ball.
00:55:00.90\00:55:03.87
>> And back as I was saying and
in the late 80's and when you
00:55:03.87\00:55:07.20
had the Falwells and robbers
and they seem like nice guys,
00:55:07.20\00:55:10.11
they were doing a lot of
work, people coming to the Lord,
00:55:10.11\00:55:12.87
but I could not support them.
And I had Christians upset at
00:55:12.87\00:55:16.28
me and say you should do this.
I said no, because they want
00:55:16.28\00:55:19.98
and their intention is to break
down the wall of separation of
00:55:19.98\00:55:24.49
church and state because they
want to legislate morality and
00:55:24.49\00:55:28.69
the church should not. And that
they're going to influence the
00:55:28.69\00:55:31.16
government to legislate.
And you know that our laws.
00:55:31.16\00:55:35.76
And so there's there's no way
they should be able to do that.
00:55:35.76\00:55:39.60
Other words, it, which I really
knew what was going to be it
00:55:39.60\00:55:42.80
was going to be the 4th
commandment is going to be not
00:55:42.80\00:55:45.37
the last 6 commandment that is
going to be the first for which
00:55:45.37\00:55:48.44
belong to got. And you know,
we can we can legislate. We'll
00:55:48.44\00:55:51.48
talk about that a little
bit. And we do every civilized
00:55:51.48\00:55:54.35
nation. The literally I think
supports the commandments the
00:55:54.35\00:55:59.55
last 6 and student
Matt. Otherwise I go kill you.
00:55:59.55\00:56:03.26
I go stale because somebody
just wrote me earlier and said,
00:56:03.26\00:56:05.89
well, no country should ever
know Christian ever before a
00:56:05.89\00:56:09.86
country whose legislating more
laws. So I don't want to live
00:56:09.86\00:56:14.27
and what does a riad? They're
going to take everything you've
00:56:14.27\00:56:18.81
got. They can take your life,
you live and take everything
00:56:18.81\00:56:21.68
else.
00:56:21.68\00:56:23.01
>> And so now there are some
countries that don't legislate
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those last 2 commandments.
Yeah, people can walk into your
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home and still and taking
meetings and all that and never
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be prosecuted for and what
we're going to have to break in
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just a moment.
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>> But I want to come back
and continue because I felt like
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that I could just 2025 people
are preaching. This is going to
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be at this is us and a lot
we have to keep in mind, we've
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been preaching this been
told about it, warned about it
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probably for 140 years. It
hasn't happened. But all along
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there's growth all along
daughters warning his people to
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watch what's happening. So
we can't get so caught up on one
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side or the other. And we'll
talk about that a little bit
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more. But in my case I
have seen and I know that a
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Christian national and so to
speak, I can do more to say the
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word they're they're they're
some of those are we're going
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to take over by force. If
we have to know. Do you think I
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support that is a Christian?
You know, I don't care if day
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have all of the names they
call me white Republican, my,
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you know, whatever, whatever
they want to call me, no,
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I don't identify with somebody
who's trying to force people
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against the goal of the laws
have got. Now we've got to come
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back. We'll talk about the
other side is right and just a
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moment or what's happening
there and how it fits into.
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And so if you don't
hear that sign, you should
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>> not come back. And
then we've got to get the whole
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truth about a minute
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