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>> Welcome back. I'm Sheli
Quinlan, JD quell and we are so
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glad if you missed the first,
are you missing a family man?
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But we are about to get into
a very interesting topic. It is
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balance finding God's path
in a world of extremes. And our
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special guest tonight is John
Bradshaw. President of it is
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scripted.
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John, we always enjoy having
you here was enjoyed being.
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It's great fun. Great fun
to see you. And we talked about
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great stuff. So
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this is good. Yes,
thanks for having me. Yes.
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>> And this is a topic that
only extremes that I think that
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most of us, Kim,
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you can feel that
something is going on.
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>> I mean, times are changing.
The world is becoming more
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extreme and you show used to
it polarizing. We we're being
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pushed to the extremes.
The media is pushing us to run.
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I think there are some
pretty benign but but meaningful
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reasons for that. We'll talk
about some of that. Why things
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are getting so extreme.
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We're getting to the place now,
6,000 years after creation that
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people are saying
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I'll do whatever I want, then
they'd that conformity is no
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longer in the lexicon. And,
you know, you do you and you do
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your truth and speak your truth.
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People rushing to the
extremes for varying reasons.
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And we see that in the church
is will politically socially
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within the church.
Theologically, it's way too
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easy for people to become
extreme in some areas with a
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really low to moderate just a
little bit and find not what I
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would cold the middle ground
but find Christ ground. That's
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what we want to find.
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>> And then and then so when
we look at this polarization,
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as you said earlier,
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it is getting to the point that
it's very difficult if you have
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an opinion that is different
than someone else's. It's very
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difficult to have the civil
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conversation even in the church
I found I don't talk politics.
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I'm a citizen of the kingdom.
Haha and I just I don't talk
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politics because if
you express innocent late
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and amazement at something
that you've seen on television,
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people can get
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really bent out of shape.
Very hostile. Yeah, very much
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so. I need I don't understand
when you see what people are
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putting on their Facebook page
and Christians who are posting
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things, that
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they're just tearing other
people apart because of their
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opinions. What do you think is
stirring all of this extreme is
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some. There are
a couple of things.
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One thing I think is
happening, I believe I know it's
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happening.
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>> Is it slowly? But surely
the spirit of God is being
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withdrawn from the lovely,
but surely. So there's that
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at the same time when I sit
some of the reasons about the
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media, a fairly
benign, he is what I mean.
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We have a 24 hour news
cycle now. How much news is they
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really? You can get most of it
out and about 38 to 40 minutes
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after that.
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You just got to keep going back
and keep going back and keep
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going back. And so to
the news channels, too.
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They tell you the news
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and then they
coming to on the news
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and then they come
in on the commentators.
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And because what news channels
have done is that they're not
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interested in telling you all
of the news. They want to tell
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you they version of the news.
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So what they've done is they've
carved out a ground and they
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become financially
beholden to that ground.
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According to news channel you
want and I'm sitting up going
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into the politics of it.
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But they've staked out a
certain amount of ground and
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they know that they can
get. Some of the view is
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CNN is never going to get
80% of the viewing audience.
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FOX News is never going to get
75% of the audience. They don't
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need it.
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They just need that slice
of the viewing audience. They'd
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like to grow it. But they
know that they're never going to
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have true dominance that need
it, though. If they just get
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these views,
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then they know that
they're going to be economically
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profitable, financially
profitable. So they tell you
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what a certain
demographic wants to know,
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happens to be what they want to
tell. So you end up in an echo
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chamber where
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me if you're watching Bradshaw
News, I'm telling you what I
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think OSHA telling you
that everybody else is not only
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wrong but that dangerous.
They want to end democracy.
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It's really interesting how one
side says Donald Trump is going
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to end a democracy. And the
other side says Joe Biden is
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going into democracy. And right
now there are people listening
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to be going the both say
he's right about Biden or Trump,
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you know, because it's
what a funny old thing.
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But I do icon just share
the news. Now. I've got to go to
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the extreme and say the
people who tell you something
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different to me, they're going
to cause the ruination of the
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world. That may be true in some
cases. So now has a view little
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one day. All from that. Keep
us in on what it what it is.
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Your thanks so much. So, Matt,
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as I read that later, I
realized what was feeling that
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individual, this cable news,
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he was just mentioning all the
points that he was just so you
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sit at home and watch
cable news all day long.
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You're going to get you going
to be coming stream. I don't
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mean annex dream missed. I
mean, you're going to you're
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going to be pushed just to
one side, one much of the other.
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So that's one reason. That's
what we're getting food from
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the media. The media don't try
to tell you all the news they
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do try and show you their
version of the news that will
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advance their political agenda.
We are feeding on that. So we
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become like that. But
holding become changed.
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>> And I just was getting ready
to say that. Also, you look at
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the internet and most of
the media we go. And it is so
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amazing to me that people
sometimes to approach me and
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they'll tell me a story and
I'll say what is your source?
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JD told me something the
other day. And I thought, well,
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that doesn't have support us
the source because it got said
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into his phone. Yes, some
people believe that anything
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they read on the Internet.
It's true. That's right.
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And we've got
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foreign governments for crying
out loud, but in 2 feet as
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yeah, some things
that are far from tray.
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>> Yes, to talk about cable
news minute ago, the Internet.
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So it used to be that if that
if you were at a bar with your
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buddies, I don't mean to you,
but fellows at the bottom with
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his buddies and he had some
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hair brained opinion.
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It stayed right there in
the BAA 3 people knew about it.
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No one can know that guy
gets online and tweet and
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potentially millions of
people years, cockamamie ideas
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and then you get people
who develop a following.
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What the Internet does it
on your YouTube fee to what it
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feed you, the stuff you like.
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So if you've got an itch
that needs scratching a, you've
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gotten a Jane Doe one and
that you just feeding on that,
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it becomes very unhelpful.
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>> Showing people don't realize
that there are algorithms.
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She knew the social media
companies. If they see you've
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got an interest in a certain
type of the news or certain
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topics, they have an algorithm
and now they start feeding you
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all of that thing in there,
which which on one level it's
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kind of good.
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>> But on every other level is
very unhealthy because you get
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stuck again in a coach, the and
on the Internet. You can rush
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to the extremes because the
is every crazy and known crazy
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group of people have a
following. The if you want to
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push you the most unhealthy
stuff in the world, whether
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it's physical emotional,
what did you find it online and
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there's nothing to stop it down
because we believe in freedom
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of speech, even if the speech
is unhealthy. And so extremism
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is born and I don't just mean
religious fundamental extremism
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of what a kind but extreme
ideas. Extreme views, extreme
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reactions.
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Jesus didn't call us to be
extreme in anything but a now
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faith in God and any did
call us to be extreme in a
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commitment to God. I I don't
want anyone to think that I'm
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saying
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just take the middle of the
road, but I would say is that
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Romans 12 says I beseech
you the full brother and by the
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most seasoned dog.
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Listen to this. That you
present your bodies, a living
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sacrifice. Now, that's an
oxymoron. Of course, polls
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pending a lewd picture or using
a device, a literary device,
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but a living sacrifice. The
book offering was slaughtered,
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placed on the old to and
completely consumed. Poor sees
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debts how you want to be
living but fully can shoe by the
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spirit of God and given
completely to the Christ of the
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Bible and the Gospel. That's
extreme that a good extreme
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that saying you all in
for Jesus, you've you've
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surrendered your life
to, you know, here's why.
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>> Have that. If
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people will say that truth
is relevant, you've got your
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truth. That got my. I think
that part of our problem today,
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please hear what I'm saying.
We need to put the phones down.
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We need to get kids off Twitter
and you can get the people have
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developed and attention span.
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That is like a hummingbird.
They sip from this four-minute.
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They sip from that and
they just split from flower to
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flower and topic to topic.
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Truth is not relevant or there
would be no truth. But no one
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is going to know truth without
reading this. Right. And here's
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what I'm saying. Correct
me. If if you think I'm off,
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I don't believe that death
cares which side of the ditch
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to fall out. You know, if
it's in this ditch or that cage,
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you say people
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in the church who are listening
to maybe somebody that on
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how can say this and
extend extra arson shows on the
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Internet or something. And
all of a sudden they become very
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legalistic. They become very
and they're falling out over
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here yet. You see other people
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who all say, oh, I've saved by
grace through faith. I want to
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say, do we say we see it even
in our own church, every church
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as the ship? That's correct.
And they're following up on
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this side.
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How do we gain true how you
can find God's path that it's a
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question at such
an important question.
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>> Extreme legalism and extreme
liberalism. I'm very closely
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related.
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>> They add let me let me
quickly say this because I
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mentioned the term liberalism.
What on a program in Somebodys
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said my wife turned you off
because she thought we're not
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talking liberalism in politics.
Well, talking liberalism has Im
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thinking
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you don't need to even worry
about following God's will,
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OK, we thanks, bedding that
because someone might get the
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wrong end of the stick,
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they are simply different sides
of the same coin, a man because
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the legal us says.
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>> I got to do all this in
order to be saved. And then
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once he or she checks it off,
I would say the person on the
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other, the Nikkei list, a
lackadaisical person says I
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just got to choose
Jesus and I'm saved
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nothing wrong with that on the
face of it. But both people I
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saved by something they've
done. Yeah, not saved by grace
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through faith in Christ
who will live his life in. Dan,
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I just got to I accepted Jesus
when I was a living. All is
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good or on. The members should
show. That's good. That's that.
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Kayla says nothing
conscientious about that.
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But over here, you know, I won
on committee and so I probably
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lost my salvation. That's
that's another extreme piling
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up. The do's and the deeds.
We've got to show them that and
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the gospel is
the antidote to that.
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We're going to get into some
of his lifestyle. So I want to
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talk about Nashville
being destroyed by 5 goals in a
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moment in a moment, just
catch somebody's attention
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in relationship
to 14 of those 12
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we read. Here is the patience
of the Saints. The say he
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robbed a now 2 things that
keep the commandments of God
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and the faith of Jesus. If
you love me, you'll keep my come
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on. That's Jesus. Wasn't saying
if you love me, you'll prove
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that he was saying if you love
me, then look at this. You're
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going to be keeping my
key moments because love this.
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The fulfilling of the role that
extremism. When you get people
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who like Whoah Whoah
K less about the fight
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standards don't matter. That's
extreme. Isn't you've gone all
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the way over to the left in
your faith in God, you think
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that showing up in church once
in a while a sufficient you're
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not having a living vital
moment by moment relationship
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with Jesus Christ. That's just
that's an extreme position over
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here where you can find enough
things to do to be good enough
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to go to that extreme as
well in the middle is probably
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Romans 6.
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How how shall we continue in
since the grace mad about God
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forbid pull, right? How
shall we? That did Tucson. Yes,
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live any longer there. He that
is dead is for. She is freed
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from sun. So the direction
we want to goes is to calvary
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with through faith in
Jesus. We die to sin and we died
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itself. Jesus lives in lives
now so is rum and 6 of U.S.
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forces. We walk in newness
of life. That's what you want.
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You can be the you can sing the
loudest in the choir and same
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as much as you want. But if you
haven't died to self, you know,
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his real Christian, you can be
the he you can be the biggest,
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the gun and the whatever it
wanted to. But if you haven't
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died to self, you're you're
a pharisee. Get your your your
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under the Old Covenant of
Works and not the new coming to
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grace.
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>> And the and the
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I had a thought that
just escape me happens to me.
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Show you get given the great in
the region encourage meant one
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thing I know what was going to
say is that people often say be
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dance is legal.
It's it's crazy. Isn't
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OPD and is slap. Not let let me
read since we're in Rome in 6,
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1, to say this, right. And
in 6.16, Paul says, do you not
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know that too? Well, new prison
secure south slaves to obey.
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You are at that one. Slate
whom you OK? We're all slaves to
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something like this. Whether of
San, if you're a slate of sand
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leading to death or of
the PD and its leading to
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righteousness, well,
it's righteousness is by face.
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How can he says obedience
obedience doesn't say this.
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Only God can save us were
saved by grace through faith.
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If we are I adopted
to become a child of God.
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We love him because he first
loved us. And you know what?
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In first, John, he
tells us that want anyone
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who is righteous will
practice righteousness.
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>> So God works in is to
willing to do. And we practice
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right to show you what
if people realize it or not,
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this is what they want.
They want this in Roman 6 synge
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shall not have dominion of
the same in one of blessing.
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So I didn't have to be that
that Kayla schedule, Christian
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Obi who says well might be
living like the devil. But I
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did choose Jesus or Rick.
And that's OK and you don't
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have to be that of pushing out
here who can't sleep at night
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because the wondering with
this something they did that
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offended dog
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in the middle in the middle.
You decide whether it's in the
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middle or not.
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But when you come to Christ
and he lives his life anew,
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thank God send. Doesn't have
to mean you know you anymore.
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This person of the year on the
one extreme isn't wallowing in
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the mud of sun. This person
of the year has got nothing to
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prove they are with G says the
spirit of God has brought life
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into the lives and now they
are in the woods of the of the
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Bible, right? Free from sun.
And that's where you want to
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be. Not not an
extreme, not extremely
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lackadaisical about your faith.
There are no standards doesn't
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matter what I eat with
drink. When I worship how they
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worship,
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you don't be like to push
another. He I've every single
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thing is life and death.
And because I put it, I stepped
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on a crack. I'm somehow
not righteous anymore. No, no.
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The true ground avoid those
extremes. Christ wants you to
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have. He's being justified
by faith. We have peace with God
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through Jesus Christ. What
we've got to live in that piece
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and a must to not do so.
You are out on the extremes and
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in a world that's filled
with crisis, you got to be with
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Jesus is and have a hot field
with the piece of crushed and
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you may
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well, well, we sit here
and will will nod and a man.
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What we both know is
that someone's watching say
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my eye can have peace. After
all. I've done the on through
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the answer is yes. After all,
you've done. But I've been back
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to you. Yes, you being bad and
God knows you being bad because
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you bag. We're all
sinners. The Bible says,
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but you can have peace.
Now. You've got some habitats,
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destroying some addiction of
some lifestyle issue. Whatever
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it is, you got a weakness.
Listen, Jesus is you come to
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me. I will give you rest is
hope at the foot of the cross
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for you. And
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I think that's good news.
If you don't understand that
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just asked the Lord could like,
yes, yes, yes, yes, let loose.
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Some people say, yes, that's
what I want. But how do I get
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it like I did when I was
the 22 year old wandering around
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Limerick, Ireland, I'm not
going to church again until you
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show me the man. You pray to
God. I don't understand this.
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You shot me. He's gone.
Maybe wants to show you that his
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business, you'd
be happy to do it.
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>> JD has the news from more
than one occasion where someone
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has COVID to the pastoral
department and they want to
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argue there is no god or
something JD would just say,
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well,
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I just want to encourage to do
this some night when you're not
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sleeping,
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just ask the Lord, if
you're there, proved to be a.
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>> And hopefully it
will. He wore. You're all of a
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sudden, you know, you you're
probably paying attention to
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how restless shoe or
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and then all of a sudden,
you know that little drop us.
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I remember he said,
Ask show Me, Lord, show me
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and boy, the
Holy Spirit. I mean,
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I understand the way that my
mind works. If it takes 10,000
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major giant angels to come
down at that particular moment,
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they will. They sure will, you
know whatever it takes. Yeah.
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And but you've got to just say,
helping to suss what I don't
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know the go. I mean.
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>> Mention Nashville. Can
a candidate can get a shock
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because here we are with
with these are extreme ideas and
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this is where I
think the Internet
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helps people become.
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I'm balanced
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now an inch to them. You know,
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when I want was a church pastas
greatest job in the history of
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great jobs, not even a
job. Just wonderful experience.
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Fantastic congregations.
I I I was I think the little
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knew I couldn't deal with
the hog. It congregation gave me
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the 2 best congregations
in history, a man o well as a
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church bus. I would say
when I when I get there early,
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really in my ministry, if you
hear me say something that you
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need to hood before, it's
probably a sign that there's
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something wrong.
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I there with you all with
me because as a gospel minustah
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shouldn't be telling you a
whole bunch of stuff you never
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heard before.
Unless, of course you knew.
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I wish you knew to the fact
that you you, you, you growing
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Ali,
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my role on this lease to tell
you the old old story, tell you
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stuff your eating up now go
to somehow bring out of my tool
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kit ways of sharing it with
you. That makes it relevant and
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applicable and so on.
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So so what I find interesting
is that, you know, while ago,
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some people seized on on
something that being written
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100 or so years ago
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saying that an ash was going
to be destroyed by 5 goals.
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I mean, which of course it
will, because the entire will
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give them a whole world will.
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But now the eclipse is coming
up. April 8, someone's going to
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be watching this month
from now. So, yeah, oh, yeah.
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And nothing happened
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and people that saying the into
the world is coming in judgment
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is coming from dog.
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I think what drives that is the
opportunity for people to get
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likes on YouTube. I
think I think that's it.
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Somebody contacted me the other
day. It is written not somebody
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from it is written but somebody
contacted me at my office
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and said I'm so scared of who
that Nashville is about to be
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destroyed by 5
goals with this eclipse.
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No, you know that Nashville
is just 3 hours from. We'll live
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in about 2 and a half hours
where I live. So I guess we
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look outside on the eclipse
day. We may see way off in the
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distance.
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An orange glow on the horizon.
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Spoiler alert.
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Nothings about to happen in
Nashville. Not anytime soon.
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And other than the usual stuff.
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April 8 is going to come
and go and Nash was going to be
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completely intact.
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In fact, God isn't going to
single Nashville out for any
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treatment that he's not
going to bestow upon any other.
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What will the city
that chooses not to repeat?
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People are convinced there's
a little cottage industry in
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seizing on the sensational and
exploiting it in order to know
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what people do it.
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It's just base to shy away
from that that extreme. There's
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nothing biblical that suggests
is nothing in any inspired
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writing. You're going to
read that suggest that Nationals
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being singled out for treatment
that no one else is is going to
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get San Francisco, Los Angeles,
Oakland, Detroit, Cleveland,
00:23:11.49\00:23:15.82
Columbus would only what
Houston, Dallas, San Antonio,
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Chattanooga, Nashville, Memphis.
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They're all going
to go. What we've done
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is we've allowed ourselves
to go from being people of the
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book
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to being people of
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who knows what
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you want to stay with the
Bible. And I want to show you
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this one about to say
I fully realize could be
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misinterpreted.
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So let's see how this works out.
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You know, there's a reason the
Bible says we are the body of
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Christ
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and you don't want to amputate
yourself from the body of
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Christ for no good reason.
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Now, I don't mean to say listen
to the pope when he speaks
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excuse cedar and only followed,
he says, I mean, to say the
00:24:02.97\00:24:06.27
mine for yourself.
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But I have been of a mind
to think that if I know godly
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consecrated Bible students
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who are the least bit
concerned about something
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probably in my best interest
not to stand up and tell the
00:24:17.95\00:24:21.52
world that this and
that is going to take place.
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It's possible the angel of the
Lord PA asked the every pastor
00:24:25.29\00:24:30.00
in Bible teacher in
pasta overall, the scholars and
00:24:30.00\00:24:32.63
academics, the academics on
right about everything. It's
00:24:32.63\00:24:35.57
possible that the spirit
of the Lord posh they love
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and came to me.
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It's possible,
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but it's not very possible.
Probable is not possible but
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not probable, right? Yeah.
So there's a need to stay with
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the body.
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Stay with the body. Now this is
where I'm worried about someone
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misinterpreted. What to
me. I don't mean don't have an
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original thought. I don't mean
pro. Don't pray to God and she
00:25:00.53\00:25:03.70
lied. I don't mean that.
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But I cannot tell you how many
people with extreme views share
00:25:05.43\00:25:09.94
the views of me as a huge
check this with well, I would.
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Why wouldn't you want other
people you trust saying about
00:25:13.01\00:25:16.88
what you're sharing?
00:25:16.88\00:25:18.85
Doesn't seem to matter. If
I can get a following all that
00:25:18.85\00:25:21.32
goes out the
window. Now I can be someone
00:25:21.32\00:25:24.35
because I've got a new view.
I've got a point that differs
00:25:24.35\00:25:27.72
from the wrist and not that's
not. I do want to tell you
00:25:27.72\00:25:31.46
something about the Bible
that no one else in our church
00:25:31.46\00:25:34.13
believes. Good to me. Yeah.
The John the Baptist, really
00:25:34.13\00:25:38.60
each locus chores at the
care of. But I believe what you
00:25:38.60\00:25:41.54
want. But he did
in consequential.
00:25:41.54\00:25:44.81
But I'm not company with new
light until I got to check out
00:25:44.81\00:25:47.64
the whole bunch of people.
And I know that I'm not leading
00:25:47.64\00:25:51.38
you astray.
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You don't have to go find
Christianity to find Bible
00:25:53.58\00:25:55.95
teaches who are off the wall
men. And yet they managed to
00:25:55.95\00:26:00.99
pull together a significant
following and a massive income.
00:26:00.99\00:26:05.86
You don't need to be
theologically orthodox
00:26:05.86\00:26:10.63
in order to be successful.
Sometimes the crazier, the
00:26:10.63\00:26:13.87
better
00:26:13.87\00:26:15.00
but in the eyes of God, we
want to be sure to richly 6, 6,
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but we do not want to
cough up our integrity.
00:26:18.17\00:26:21.44
You want to stay with the Bible.
00:26:21.44\00:26:23.65
Avoid speculation.
00:26:23.65\00:26:26.75
Speculation is extreme
00:26:26.75\00:26:30.12
and that should expect a
road. You don't want to go down
00:26:30.12\00:26:32.55
because there are a week people
around you who are going to
00:26:32.55\00:26:35.02
swallow that stuff, Hoke
line and sinker because they put
00:26:35.02\00:26:38.46
their faith in you rather
than did faith in God. I mean,
00:26:38.46\00:26:42.23
so these are extreme is the
sensation was strucked stuff.
00:26:42.23\00:26:46.03
Is an extremely want to Sean.
00:26:46.03\00:26:47.37
>> In some ways, I think that
00:26:47.37\00:26:52.14
some churchgoers want to be
entertained 100% true. And so
00:26:52.14\00:26:57.75
they encourage
be careful how you
00:26:57.75\00:27:01.15
compliment
00:27:01.15\00:27:02.68
someone who speaking be careful
about getting too excited about
00:27:02.68\00:27:07.56
somebody just, you know,
Paulson Per-screen teens to 2.
00:27:07.56\00:27:11.46
When I was among you, I I
resolve not to know anything
00:27:11.46\00:27:15.83
but Christ and him crucified.
00:27:15.83\00:27:18.40
Sometimes we encourage people
to deep delap a style. Do you
00:27:18.40\00:27:24.21
that?
00:27:24.21\00:27:25.11
It's entertaining.
00:27:25.11\00:27:27.64
I think that the church members
are as much at fault as the as
00:27:27.64\00:27:31.75
the person who delivers that
way and with media now, whether
00:27:31.75\00:27:35.22
it's TV or the Internet.
00:27:35.22\00:27:36.75
>> A person can become the
flavor of the month. Pretty
00:27:36.75\00:27:38.69
quickly. Yes. And and it's not
uncommon to to seize on the new
00:27:38.69\00:27:44.19
personality aimed elevating
someone real quick. It is is
00:27:44.19\00:27:49.40
being proven frequently to
be in unhealthy. Other extremes.
00:27:49.40\00:27:53.40
Diet. Don't be careful here
00:27:53.40\00:27:57.11
because one person's extreme
is another person's knoll.
00:27:57.11\00:28:01.51
Now, what would an extreme?
And I'd be one extremist.
00:28:01.51\00:28:04.35
Did you see what you want?
I don't care. All do what I
00:28:04.35\00:28:07.35
want to go to with my
body. You go to die. Something
00:28:07.35\00:28:10.55
the other extreme would
be vegetarianism. No, I think
00:28:10.55\00:28:14.12
that's mainstream. I think
that's sensible veganism that
00:28:14.12\00:28:17.09
was seen to be extreme want.
It's not now particularly in
00:28:17.09\00:28:20.43
certain countries of the
world which soup a mainstream.
00:28:20.43\00:28:24.07
So, you know, Whole Foods, it's
it's full of the gun, some of
00:28:24.07\00:28:28.17
them wearing Birkenstocks
and some of them and off. So
00:28:28.17\00:28:32.71
there's that
00:28:32.71\00:28:34.31
fruit. Harry in this
00:28:34.31\00:28:37.11
right. But they may be
times from additional reasons,
00:28:37.11\00:28:41.15
right? You just don't eat fruit
00:28:41.15\00:28:43.49
Rhule. Food only. No, I don't
want to criticize the push and
00:28:43.49\00:28:48.19
we want the rule food, even
though I can promise you I'm
00:28:48.19\00:28:51.09
not only going to eat real food.
00:28:51.09\00:28:53.29
I went to a restaurant.
It's run by a a Asian religious
00:28:53.29\00:28:57.73
organization. And probably it's
a gift to me from God that I
00:28:57.73\00:29:01.80
can't remember the name of
the restaurants. I was going to
00:29:01.80\00:29:04.64
take my wife Melissa and say
what saying that place and was
00:29:04.64\00:29:08.24
soon as we go off here.
Remember it. But it's good that
00:29:08.24\00:29:10.31
I don't
00:29:10.31\00:29:11.78
we're in the you know, you
know, there's this lovely Asian
00:29:11.78\00:29:13.18
food, the kindly priced.
00:29:13.18\00:29:16.45
And there's a video on the wall
playing in. This is the not a
00:29:16.45\00:29:20.02
good rookie. She's
not Indian. But this is to
00:29:20.02\00:29:22.96
the spiritual leader.
00:29:22.96\00:29:25.79
They're asking her what they're
asking her about Bri Ferrier
00:29:25.79\00:29:29.16
and isn't.
00:29:29.16\00:29:30.30
Do you think I'm making this
up? We watched it with our own
00:29:30.30\00:29:33.27
eyes. People who'd arrived
old in nutrition from breathing.
00:29:33.27\00:29:38.17
Yeah.
00:29:38.17\00:29:39.31
And the question is what about
these break? Derrion's who'd
00:29:39.31\00:29:42.04
died? You know
it surprise you that
00:29:42.04\00:29:45.41
Swami the religious leadership,
what they would they would
00:29:45.41\00:29:49.48
doing it wrong, migrated to
funny that they would play this
00:29:49.48\00:29:52.62
in a restaurant, encouraging
people to eat by breathing.
00:29:52.62\00:29:56.52
Now that's extreme. That's
destructive that I've been can
00:29:56.52\00:29:59.56
accused of inhaling my food,
though. Yahoo. I see what you
00:29:59.56\00:30:04.80
do. They will play. That was
a good one so that we can agree
00:30:04.80\00:30:09.10
is an extreme.
00:30:09.10\00:30:11.11
I want to be careful of
labeling someone who doesn't
00:30:11.11\00:30:14.18
want to show you're a
fruit area. Well, for each cool,
00:30:14.18\00:30:17.95
unique role, food. Well, I hope
you're monitoring your health,
00:30:17.95\00:30:21.38
but if it's working for you,
00:30:21.38\00:30:23.39
it's working for you.
00:30:23.39\00:30:25.99
And you may say it's a healthy.
I'm not here to criticize it.
00:30:25.99\00:30:29.49
He's the extreme.
00:30:29.49\00:30:31.46
The extreme as we you don't
get another push in the grace.
00:30:31.46\00:30:35.33
It meant to be what they feel
like they need to be. But that
00:30:35.33\00:30:38.57
person eats meat
00:30:38.57\00:30:39.87
and not just
teachers, vegetarianism
00:30:39.87\00:30:43.44
and you'll proud. And the
Bible teaches at pride is an
00:30:43.44\00:30:46.44
abomination while you can
share and about the beef but not
00:30:46.44\00:30:50.15
concerned about your pride.
00:30:50.15\00:30:52.88
The Bible says don't don't
destroy the kingdom of God of
00:30:52.88\00:30:55.28
the meat and drink. So what
I'm what I'm suggesting is the
00:30:55.28\00:30:59.22
extreme here is
judgmental isn't.
00:30:59.22\00:31:02.72
>> And now I have to tell
you thought you loved this.
00:31:02.72\00:31:06.90
I was thinking about jet people
who are judgmental the other
00:31:06.90\00:31:11.03
day of the spring for
someone actually left.
00:31:11.03\00:31:13.34
And all of a sudden what
gave me this thought when we put
00:31:13.34\00:31:17.77
ourselves in
00:31:17.77\00:31:20.54
when we become an accuser of
the threat of yet more pointing
00:31:20.54\00:31:23.98
a finger in judging them,
00:31:23.98\00:31:25.71
we're playing the role of
say who was the acute or accuser
00:31:25.71\00:31:29.32
that where the lion the goal of
Saint. Would that be quick not
00:31:29.32\00:31:34.16
to accuse? Yeah, one. Yeah, you
know, because people are very
00:31:34.16\00:31:36.96
quick sometimes to just say I
wanted, you know, they did this
00:31:36.96\00:31:40.40
this flight.
00:31:40.40\00:31:41.50
>> I was in the church recently
and they have these very,
00:31:41.50\00:31:43.77
very healthy potlucks great.
00:31:43.77\00:31:46.63
I thought, I mean, under
the gun. So it's vegan food.
00:31:46.63\00:31:50.34
I it's open season. You know,
I got to be careful. Cuss a
00:31:50.34\00:31:55.34
balloon in recent
times that you can
00:31:55.34\00:31:58.58
vegan food and put on an
unhealthy amount of weight.
00:31:58.58\00:32:02.08
He too much.
00:32:02.08\00:32:03.59
So you might have the right
kind of food that at least how
00:32:03.59\00:32:06.99
I say it is over, but too
much of it. Others will be John.
00:32:06.99\00:32:11.49
You know, yeah, so, but but
they should, you know, in this
00:32:11.49\00:32:14.36
church we used to it used to be
more diverse, what but that it
00:32:14.36\00:32:18.20
was done this unfold.
00:32:18.20\00:32:20.40
But since that the food police
have established a little more
00:32:20.40\00:32:25.74
authority to that telling
people you can't bring that.
00:32:25.74\00:32:30.51
We don't want that
here and making people feel
00:32:30.51\00:32:33.75
pool and we can and judged.
00:32:33.75\00:32:36.89
You know, if Missus Smith
wants to bring a fish casserole
00:32:36.89\00:32:40.69
and she rose up the pot
luck with the fish. Casserole
00:32:40.69\00:32:44.36
of Mister Brown wants to bring
his didn't know what it would
00:32:44.36\00:32:47.76
be as she she's she says I
yeah, yeah. You know what you
00:32:47.76\00:32:52.37
say.
00:32:52.37\00:32:53.54
Thank you. Yes. Thank
you. Missus Smith. Thank you,
00:32:53.54\00:32:57.34
Mister Brown. Thank you.
Missus. Washington was so
00:32:57.34\00:33:00.78
grateful. We're going to put
that right here on the table.
00:33:00.78\00:33:03.48
If you didn't line them up a
little label on it. So people
00:33:03.48\00:33:05.78
know what it is.
00:33:05.78\00:33:07.28
And and you know what? When
someone sees this fish is going
00:33:07.28\00:33:10.49
to be feeding frenzy,
00:33:10.49\00:33:12.32
it will be gone big on 45
seconds? No, no, I'm not saying
00:33:12.32\00:33:17.36
anything goes. I'm saying what
goes is kindness. And if that
00:33:17.36\00:33:23.10
fish dish would
offend the congregation?
00:33:23.10\00:33:27.00
>> Well, then
maybe people will Smith.
00:33:27.00\00:33:29.30
>> On enough, you know this
00:33:29.30\00:33:31.24
and then you have a kind
would make this a way to do it.
00:33:31.24\00:33:33.34
And Mister Smith is going to
kind of funny because that was
00:33:33.34\00:33:35.88
the first issue gone to
know what you're talking about.
00:33:35.88\00:33:39.21
Where is the love,
right? There's got to be love.
00:33:39.21\00:33:42.85
Anything way. You are not love
it. I know somebody's going to
00:33:42.85\00:33:46.69
read sure has no standards.
When it comes to an I told you
00:33:46.69\00:33:50.46
my personal stand. It is.
00:33:50.46\00:33:54.66
So this isn't what
without children think
00:33:54.66\00:33:57.77
I peoples of what with teaching
our children to be raised a
00:33:57.77\00:34:00.70
certain way to be one of the it.
00:34:00.70\00:34:03.10
I said, well,
listen, here's what we do.
00:34:03.10\00:34:05.81
What we used to do.
00:34:05.81\00:34:07.34
We would say when
the kids were little,
00:34:07.34\00:34:09.58
this is how we live. It's what
we've chosen this, what we feel
00:34:09.58\00:34:12.81
God wants us to do.
00:34:12.81\00:34:15.78
But what we know is that there
are some people who don't share
00:34:15.78\00:34:19.19
a point. If you, you know,
we respect them. We don't agree
00:34:19.19\00:34:22.86
with him, but we respect you.
Expect we expect you to respect
00:34:22.86\00:34:25.96
them too.
00:34:25.96\00:34:27.03
Well, the kids on all of a
sudden going to run over and
00:34:27.03\00:34:29.03
this is Smith's fish.
00:34:29.03\00:34:31.03
They're going to do
what they've seen. You do it.
00:34:31.03\00:34:33.03
And and you've told them
kindly, we love those people
00:34:33.03\00:34:36.14
there, friends and neighbors.
We don't agree with all the
00:34:36.14\00:34:38.94
decisions. They probably
don't agree with some of those.
00:34:38.94\00:34:42.14
So we're going to do. We think
God wants us to do and will
00:34:42.14\00:34:44.98
respect them. How about
that? It worked for my kids
00:34:44.98\00:34:49.28
and that it would it work.
Well extremes. So you get these
00:34:49.28\00:34:53.09
guy. I'm going to step
on. Somebody tells you, but no
00:34:53.09\00:34:56.79
agenda goes. So
00:34:56.79\00:35:00.20
this this was
big a few years ago.
00:35:00.20\00:35:02.90
We'll have to go live in the
country, but no prom with that.
00:35:02.90\00:35:07.64
But the dad who's in the U.S.
00:35:07.64\00:35:09.47
cuts down to one day week so we
can spend 6 days a week raising
00:35:09.47\00:35:13.01
his kids
00:35:13.01\00:35:15.68
again. Again, I do want to
criticize anybody's lifestyle
00:35:15.68\00:35:18.91
choice, but I think your
kids want to see that much.
00:35:18.91\00:35:22.82
I think, you know, kids need to
know that dads go to work now,
00:35:22.82\00:35:25.69
by the way, if you if you
can pull it off, you could you
00:35:25.69\00:35:28.56
insomuch one day week?
00:35:28.56\00:35:30.53
Well, the new with
today's weekend in more.
00:35:30.53\00:35:33.83
Yeah. If you if you can pull
it off, I guess that's fine.
00:35:33.83\00:35:38.20
But really what do you
what do you not? What do you not
00:35:38.20\00:35:41.84
telling a kid about
the value of hard work?
00:35:41.84\00:35:45.37
What do you not telling your
children about the blessing of
00:35:45.37\00:35:50.78
of being at work in and being
a provide a in what what do you
00:35:50.78\00:35:54.65
not giving them to aspire
to? I think it's an extreme on
00:35:54.65\00:35:59.42
another room with you live in
the country. I love to live in
00:35:59.42\00:36:01.72
the country living in a boat
and nice and they would love to
00:36:01.72\00:36:04.36
live in the actual good.
00:36:04.36\00:36:06.09
But when it became fashionable
for people to ditch the job
00:36:06.09\00:36:09.46
done runoff and
live in the wilderness,
00:36:09.46\00:36:12.10
another question for you who
you sheen to out day. I'm glad
00:36:12.10\00:36:15.00
that fit what sticks in
Franco's coming 8 out of your
00:36:15.00\00:36:17.04
hands. But, you
know, go to baptize the D a
00:36:17.04\00:36:20.88
ways you'll feel the delay.
But you got to tell me those 6
00:36:20.88\00:36:24.21
days you're traveling into the
city where you don't put your
00:36:24.21\00:36:26.51
little kid's mind by
going into the city. Do you
00:36:26.51\00:36:29.58
the is going to be
a balance somewhere.
00:36:29.58\00:36:32.32
You don't be so sorry for the
cliche heavenly minded that you
00:36:32.32\00:36:35.59
have no 3 good. The
00:36:35.59\00:36:37.86
if you're a
successful shoe sales person
00:36:37.86\00:36:41.30
or successful seamstress
for successful school teacher
00:36:41.30\00:36:45.20
rocket hit the water that are
you going to be busy and you're
00:36:45.20\00:36:48.74
going you're going to struggle
to find the balance between
00:36:48.74\00:36:52.41
wook
00:36:52.41\00:36:53.94
and family life. So
let's talk about that
00:36:53.94\00:36:57.11
because you can get people
who become so extreme with work.
00:36:57.11\00:36:59.91
The kids never see them.
So here I am telling that the
00:36:59.91\00:37:02.52
one-day week guy
that he probably ought to
00:37:02.52\00:37:05.52
go to the office more.
00:37:05.52\00:37:07.19
I understand that's a personal
decision and someone's incensed
00:37:07.19\00:37:10.49
that I would say that my
children would welcome you
00:37:10.49\00:37:13.53
going to work more often.
00:37:13.53\00:37:16.26
But how about the dad? Who's
at the office all the time?
00:37:16.26\00:37:20.07
Orange running a business.
I've never run a business.
00:37:20.07\00:37:24.91
I don't know personally how
demanding that is. Why a lot of
00:37:24.91\00:37:27.61
people have it to put
demonte. It will consume you.
00:37:27.61\00:37:32.41
I could you know who I
have Kathy Smith recently from
00:37:32.41\00:37:36.08
Sylvan Hills Bakery
00:37:36.08\00:37:37.75
on a podcast called Faith on
top run by couple English guys
00:37:37.75\00:37:42.26
that the 10 episode it's worth
listening to its Christians in
00:37:42.26\00:37:46.80
business
00:37:46.80\00:37:47.93
and how they can
be people of faith
00:37:47.93\00:37:50.70
and people of business.
00:37:50.70\00:37:53.20
And Kathy said something
really interesting about how
00:37:53.20\00:37:56.60
businesses so that he sometimes
00:37:56.60\00:37:58.94
and it has been is going to be
a way and and things you got to
00:37:58.94\00:38:02.48
get picked up at home
and maybe she can to dad.
00:38:02.48\00:38:05.81
You recognize
00:38:05.81\00:38:08.65
sometimes how it's going to
be. She was very down and very
00:38:08.65\00:38:11.89
appropriate. Yeah.
She spoke about that.
00:38:11.89\00:38:14.29
Sometimes that happens. So
you compensate for that another
00:38:14.29\00:38:17.69
way. If you say I'm only going
to work 40 hours all the rest
00:38:17.69\00:38:20.36
of my time, is it on? Maybe you
can do that? I count. Maybe you
00:38:20.36\00:38:24.40
can.
00:38:24.40\00:38:25.27
But when I was
at home, I was home.
00:38:25.27\00:38:27.44
I didn't come home from work
until the kids don't bother me.
00:38:27.44\00:38:29.54
I'm going into my office when
I was home and I had office work
00:38:29.54\00:38:32.64
that wait until after the kids
went to bed and all my time was
00:38:32.64\00:38:36.34
the A's. Then they look for to
daddy coming home because we're
00:38:36.34\00:38:39.18
going to hang out. We're going
to play. We're going have a
00:38:39.18\00:38:41.55
good time
00:38:41.55\00:38:43.82
when it comes to
work-life balance.
00:38:43.82\00:38:46.45
There's no such thing. What
I mean is there is no valent ox
00:38:46.45\00:38:51.73
perfectly in balance
now. Know this week, my family
00:38:51.73\00:38:55.06
didn't see me because things
at the business were out of
00:38:55.06\00:38:57.93
control
00:38:57.93\00:38:59.47
and maybe you put that energy
and nail. So the later on you
00:38:59.47\00:39:03.04
the comfortable life and more
to give to God. Mort, you can
00:39:03.04\00:39:07.34
take time off
more time in ministry.
00:39:07.34\00:39:10.11
I'm not saying everybody needs
to pursue the same lifestyle
00:39:10.11\00:39:12.68
far from it on looking at this
work life balance which I think
00:39:12.68\00:39:16.55
is a phrase that doesn't mean
very much. I call it work live
00:39:16.55\00:39:20.79
with them. That's a much
better way of putting it. Yeah,
00:39:20.79\00:39:23.56
yeah, you can get
into a certain rhythm.
00:39:23.56\00:39:25.59
>> Yes, and it's
it's something that to
00:39:25.59\00:39:28.76
if a few we've owned our own
business. But if you're working
00:39:28.76\00:39:32.40
in a, you know, ministry you
there's no such thing as having
00:39:32.40\00:39:36.84
a perfect balance between
your personal cushy. Don't know
00:39:36.84\00:39:39.57
what's coming. That's right. But
00:39:39.57\00:39:42.34
you get in this rig, it's
it's the same with the Lord your
00:39:42.34\00:39:45.68
relationship with them or you
can get in working so much that
00:39:45.68\00:39:50.22
you lose that rhythm with
the Lord because you're not
00:39:50.22\00:39:53.19
spending that quality time.
But it's all about getting into
00:39:53.19\00:39:58.83
a rhythm and make sure that
what's important to the Lord
00:39:58.83\00:40:03.23
and that here
00:40:03.23\00:40:05.50
spouse your children.
00:40:05.50\00:40:07.37
>> People are getting your
quality to chapel struggle with
00:40:07.37\00:40:10.14
this. It's a real thing said.
So if you're aware all that,
00:40:10.14\00:40:13.84
that's half the battle right
there, being no error of it.
00:40:13.84\00:40:16.88
And then you say, watch,
00:40:16.88\00:40:19.41
I'm out of my available
time. Am I dedicated my family?
00:40:19.41\00:40:24.12
You know, it's one thing is
I worked so hard now going to
00:40:24.12\00:40:26.52
play golf for 4 hours and
then go with my buddies in the
00:40:26.52\00:40:29.06
evening.
00:40:29.06\00:40:30.96
No, if businesses consuming
you, I probably let the Gulf
00:40:30.96\00:40:33.96
go. I I think it said that
I can spend some time with my
00:40:33.96\00:40:36.73
family.
00:40:36.73\00:40:38.83
You just want to be
certain that you not.
00:40:38.83\00:40:42.54
I saw the other day talking
about how he was successful.
00:40:42.54\00:40:45.54
We start to make money
and start to really get hit.
00:40:45.54\00:40:47.84
Really good. Really good.
00:40:47.84\00:40:49.98
And his wife
00:40:49.98\00:40:52.28
sit a couple of things to
that were a wake-up call and he
00:40:52.28\00:40:54.82
realized I'm not given my
family anything. I thought I
00:40:54.82\00:40:58.22
was giving them everything.
00:40:58.22\00:40:59.95
But they need more
than material stuff.
00:40:59.95\00:41:03.39
They need me there. And so
we figured it out and he could.
00:41:03.39\00:41:06.66
He could still work. But he's
making himself available for
00:41:06.66\00:41:09.66
the family.
00:41:09.66\00:41:10.73
It becomes extreme
when it's all about
00:41:10.73\00:41:13.27
business. How you got to
pull it back. You probably don't
00:41:13.27\00:41:15.97
need that super expensive cars.
So you don't need that much
00:41:15.97\00:41:19.37
money. I'm not against
expensive cars. You can afford
00:41:19.37\00:41:21.58
not yourself out.
00:41:21.58\00:41:22.78
You probably don't need
yet another house. You probably
00:41:22.78\00:41:25.75
don't need more stuff. If
that's what's driving, you pull
00:41:25.75\00:41:30.12
back. Do you want and say
what's most important? God
00:41:30.12\00:41:34.46
first family second,
all the other stuff. Is it?
00:41:34.46\00:41:36.93
>> Distant 3rd, at this least
repeat because I've been trying
00:41:36.93\00:41:41.26
to teach someone to say
that who soon industry that, you
00:41:41.26\00:41:45.03
know,
00:41:45.03\00:41:46.10
Paula says that if someone
can't man eat his home, how
00:41:46.10\00:41:49.84
maintaining you with love,
then he can manage the church.
00:41:49.84\00:41:54.38
It's God first. Didn't family
in your ministry. So true.
00:41:54.38\00:41:59.01
>> We don't talk about that
a lot. We knew we need to talk
00:41:59.01\00:42:01.78
about that a whole lot more.
So people who are successful in
00:42:01.78\00:42:04.69
ministry and the families here
in absolute miss want to miss,
00:42:04.69\00:42:09.56
you know, be careful telling
the story. I will not name
00:42:09.56\00:42:12.19
names, but I see 2 of Angeles
once. Can you give me some
00:42:12.19\00:42:14.93
advice? He looked very
content on the show. What about,
00:42:14.93\00:42:18.20
you know, just give me some
advice. I'd like some advice
00:42:18.20\00:42:20.90
from you.
00:42:20.90\00:42:22.10
He did this. She looked to
him one way. He looked back.
00:42:22.10\00:42:27.78
Put your family first
00:42:27.78\00:42:32.18
son of a very
well-known minister.
00:42:32.18\00:42:35.42
I thought that's telling
you. He's dead famous as famous.
00:42:35.42\00:42:40.06
Never put his family first. Yes.
00:42:40.06\00:42:42.82
>> This is 2 things I want to
mention here and I I think this
00:42:42.82\00:42:46.93
is a decent statement. Hope it
is. Yeah. Monkey see monkey do
00:42:46.93\00:42:51.00
sure. No question about our
main boy. You can set yourself
00:42:51.00\00:42:54.70
up real quick
being a workaholic,
00:42:54.70\00:42:59.44
Melissa in Shannon
and Jake Upper city here.
00:42:59.44\00:43:04.88
They just might
follow suit. Yeah.
00:43:04.88\00:43:06.95
>> Yeah. Your wife had been
Jacob can shade into this thing
00:43:06.95\00:43:11.32
like it's like they don't
like that old song catching the
00:43:11.32\00:43:13.42
Cradle move. That song asked.
Yes song. Yeah. Ad was away so
00:43:13.42\00:43:17.03
much. That was boy grew up.
He didn't want to be around a
00:43:17.03\00:43:19.06
stay at the well.
That's a wake-up call.
00:43:19.06\00:43:21.90
>> Second thing, boy, and
this is to make this. This is a
00:43:21.90\00:43:24.90
major lesson we will take to all
00:43:24.90\00:43:27.97
when my best friends growing up
00:43:27.97\00:43:30.67
this time for his
senior year in high school,
00:43:30.67\00:43:33.88
we're going to go what we
learned the so we're saying,
00:43:33.88\00:43:36.24
well, I want to go to this
college. I'm going to go this
00:43:36.24\00:43:38.25
cause and then the
valedictorian of our class,
00:43:38.25\00:43:41.82
the best looking
guy in our class.
00:43:41.82\00:43:43.95
He says that
00:43:43.95\00:43:46.32
I'm going to
00:43:46.32\00:43:48.36
get a job
00:43:48.36\00:43:50.03
and stay with it for 30 years.
00:43:50.03\00:43:52.43
What we did know is that his
father was the one. He was the
00:43:52.43\00:43:56.70
center of all the attractions.
Hasan want to take us all out
00:43:56.70\00:43:59.43
would go 100 miles an hour and
everything. But what we didn't
00:43:59.43\00:44:02.70
know is that his father
couldn't keep a job more than a
00:44:02.70\00:44:05.14
month. Oh, interesting.
There was really interesting is.
00:44:05.14\00:44:09.31
And so
00:44:09.31\00:44:10.61
the lesson here is
00:44:10.61\00:44:13.45
we may not know
what we wanted to,
00:44:13.45\00:44:16.65
but we certainly know what we
don't want to do that. You're a
00:44:16.65\00:44:20.12
big lesson right there. And
so it it's far as being ballots.
00:44:20.12\00:44:27.00
>> I was at a a conference
ministers meeting recently with
00:44:27.00\00:44:31.90
the ministers at a certain
region of the country together.
00:44:31.90\00:44:34.27
In the end, the president,
the leader of that organization
00:44:34.27\00:44:37.24
said to the ministers, he said,
00:44:37.24\00:44:39.77
you make sure
00:44:39.77\00:44:41.61
you're taking time with your
family needs to make sure at
00:44:41.61\00:44:45.21
least an entire day, at least
one and tied a note saying,
00:44:45.21\00:44:49.75
but at least how
that one entire day
00:44:49.75\00:44:52.75
as well as the other.
00:44:52.75\00:44:54.22
And if you church
members squeal you, you say
00:44:54.22\00:44:58.06
the president's council.
Well, I like that. That was not
00:44:58.06\00:45:01.36
present because otherwise
we can go saving the world.
00:45:01.36\00:45:05.23
Losing out families. Yes,
it's extreme, but you don't back
00:45:05.23\00:45:08.70
cough. You don't sell. Not
taking that phone call on off
00:45:08.70\00:45:11.64
the clock. No. You do make
that 10:30PM, Hospital visit all
00:45:11.64\00:45:16.41
that one in the hospital visit
because you're a servant and
00:45:16.41\00:45:19.28
now that being you God time, I
don't make it sound easy there.
00:45:19.28\00:45:23.69
Pastas everywhere in ministry
workers, Evers icon figured
00:45:23.69\00:45:26.59
out, but you can. God did
not call you sacrificed your
00:45:26.59\00:45:31.73
children equal
Abraham to do that.
00:45:31.73\00:45:34.23
Even then he stopped him.
00:45:34.23\00:45:35.83
He didn't hold me to do that.
Yeah. Yeah. He didn't call.
00:45:35.83\00:45:38.70
You may get another one extreme
00:45:38.70\00:45:41.54
criticism.
00:45:41.54\00:45:44.91
I would like to say
00:45:44.91\00:45:48.18
I don't have the right eye
was about to say you the generic
00:45:48.18\00:45:53.58
you nobody has the right
to publicly criticize another
00:45:53.58\00:46:00.79
human genome. Thank you.
Use should we don't have the
00:46:00.79\00:46:04.86
right
00:46:04.86\00:46:05.76
to publicly
criticize church leaders.
00:46:05.76\00:46:08.86
You got to hear that with
balance because their time we
00:46:08.86\00:46:11.77
need to have discussions.
Should we do? We can have
00:46:11.77\00:46:14.50
discussions.
00:46:14.50\00:46:16.00
You almost never know what's
going on inside those meetings.
00:46:16.00\00:46:19.77
You almost never know how a
decision was reached. Almost
00:46:19.77\00:46:23.04
never.
00:46:23.04\00:46:25.41
You have not walked a mile in
the shoes of that man with that
00:46:25.41\00:46:28.38
woman.
00:46:28.38\00:46:29.52
And so to be one of these
extremists firing off criticism
00:46:29.52\00:46:33.76
left and right,
00:46:33.76\00:46:35.56
you know what I wouldn't want
to do. I wouldn't want to face
00:46:35.56\00:46:37.89
Ted in the judgment and I
wouldn't want to he's not that
00:46:37.89\00:46:41.30
the walleye won. Why? When
I say listen, I I spent the
00:46:41.30\00:46:45.57
evening with Jillian JT
quick change. I can tell you
00:46:45.57\00:46:49.67
and you know what, you don't
know about them. And I got to
00:46:49.67\00:46:52.57
you know what I'm doing that
not only my tearing you down
00:46:52.57\00:46:54.84
upon being negative, but these
this person they looked up to
00:46:54.84\00:46:58.38
you
00:46:58.38\00:46:59.55
and what would have rushed
in and they seem like such
00:46:59.55\00:47:01.42
Christians
00:47:01.42\00:47:02.52
and now that she's disappointed
that you're a hypocrite,
00:47:02.52\00:47:06.72
it could cause this person
lose his will, who would know it
00:47:06.72\00:47:09.99
could cause him
to lose their way.
00:47:09.99\00:47:12.46
And and that not only
have I done the devil's work in
00:47:12.46\00:47:15.76
maligning somebody, but I'm
also placed a stumbling block
00:47:15.76\00:47:19.33
before that person who looked
up to the lead. Even if it's
00:47:19.33\00:47:23.07
true, they don't need to know.
00:47:23.07\00:47:26.24
You know, one of the
witnesses is one ups. One,
00:47:26.24\00:47:29.31
nobody wants to get in the
group and not somebody always
00:47:29.31\00:47:32.18
wants. Well, I know something.
You don't know that you're on.
00:47:32.18\00:47:35.38
And more than all the sudden
00:47:35.38\00:47:37.89
it takes a life of its own yet.
Should us things are said that
00:47:37.89\00:47:41.19
shouldn't be said
00:47:41.19\00:47:42.82
making up stories that should
have been tried in the ocean
00:47:42.82\00:47:45.46
stories. Yes, yeah. So so as as
Bracho saying, well, if you see
00:47:45.46\00:47:49.40
something, you like that, you
that you just got to s*** it up
00:47:49.40\00:47:51.47
and saying nothing know first,
you have a good talk with God,
00:47:51.47\00:47:55.54
but over the head of the
Lord says what you need to say
00:47:55.54\00:47:58.67
something you're going
to write the kind of slip
00:47:58.67\00:48:01.51
the kindest email you're
going to put, maybe if you can
00:48:01.51\00:48:04.18
approach the person to person
to person and you be so kind so
00:48:04.18\00:48:07.65
that when you say what they've
said, that person's going to
00:48:07.65\00:48:10.02
say, well, that was a Christian
person. My goodness that really
00:48:10.02\00:48:13.29
spoke highly spoke like Jesus
would speak. You go in, you go
00:48:13.29\00:48:17.13
face-to-face, push and push
Matthew, 18 men. You be so kind
00:48:17.13\00:48:21.26
and so sweet that the push
will be happy that you expressed
00:48:21.26\00:48:23.80
your consent. Yes. After that,
you don't start a civil war,
00:48:23.80\00:48:28.04
you don't. But now, you
know, so often people will.
00:48:28.04\00:48:32.57
>> One our opinion on
some poll. Yeah. And you know,
00:48:32.57\00:48:35.81
you've got be careful when
sharing an opinion in and like
00:48:35.81\00:48:39.25
you said, people are quick
to share opinions be. It was it
00:48:39.25\00:48:43.72
makes them look important.
JT has a saying in and we've
00:48:43.72\00:48:47.39
adopted this and this is how
we do it. Somebody last what we
00:48:47.39\00:48:51.09
think about certain news
story or something he just says,
00:48:51.09\00:48:55.10
I just don't have enough
information. And as you said,
00:48:55.10\00:48:58.90
we don't know what goes
high and dry with just got to be
00:48:58.90\00:49:02.50
king careful by your word, too.
Few quid I were to peak and and
00:49:02.50\00:49:07.58
it's right.
00:49:07.58\00:49:08.61
Put a guard over the
door-post. Yeah, my lips, Lord.
00:49:08.61\00:49:11.68
>> The church is
as someone wrote,
00:49:11.68\00:49:15.92
though, it's week
enfeebled and effective.
00:49:15.92\00:49:18.92
It is the one object upon this
upon which Christ peace toes in
00:49:18.92\00:49:22.99
a special since he's supremely
got Bible, right? A cold or the
00:49:22.99\00:49:26.90
apple of God's eye.
00:49:26.90\00:49:29.33
You know, I don't want you even
if you know something about my
00:49:29.33\00:49:33.97
mother.
00:49:33.97\00:49:35.04
That's all full and true.
I want to know me because I
00:49:35.04\00:49:39.01
just don't know, according to
church, my mother. But even if
00:49:39.01\00:49:43.28
you know something about
the church, that's often true.
00:49:43.28\00:49:45.78
You know, if it's to guide and
God somebody and keep them from
00:49:45.78\00:49:49.32
evil, you may want
you may want to talk to.
00:49:49.32\00:49:52.35
But because you know that the
church really did did something
00:49:52.35\00:49:55.19
this so that was room.
That's too no, you don't want to
00:49:55.19\00:49:58.29
criticize. That's so next.
Stream really bad when you rush
00:49:58.29\00:50:04.20
to that now now with the
Internet, we can tell the
00:50:04.20\00:50:06.37
entire world the supposed sins
of some into tea, some should
00:50:06.37\00:50:12.14
some church lead. And
why would you do that?
00:50:12.14\00:50:16.91
Someone said something
somewhere. First thing I'm
00:50:16.91\00:50:19.68
going to do is tell the world
00:50:19.68\00:50:24.29
maybe they should and
maybe they didn't. But have you
00:50:24.29\00:50:26.99
thought about what that person
is going to go through now
00:50:26.99\00:50:29.89
being being being lambasted
00:50:29.89\00:50:33.70
from sea to shining sea? I
think you want you want to be
00:50:33.70\00:50:37.17
rid, didn't don't you
came out this. You've got to be
00:50:37.17\00:50:39.93
redemptive. But now it's so
easy to be extreme. Extremely
00:50:39.93\00:50:44.44
critical.
00:50:44.44\00:50:45.64
You know what you do it now, if
you're willing to die for that
00:50:45.64\00:50:48.44
person,
00:50:48.44\00:50:49.41
then then you're you're in it
00:50:49.41\00:50:52.11
too big to begin with
you. You're in a good place.
00:50:52.11\00:50:55.02
What you're going to do is,
you know, talk to Jea says, and
00:50:55.02\00:50:57.85
you're going to be guided by
the Holy Spirit, going the with
00:50:57.85\00:51:01.12
God that you cause no hom that
you don't. Of course, somebody
00:51:01.12\00:51:05.36
to stumble. What is
gained by ripping someone like
00:51:05.36\00:51:10.73
criticizing?
00:51:10.73\00:51:14.04
I think it probably happens in
00:51:14.04\00:51:16.91
every church.
00:51:16.91\00:51:18.91
They re denomination
everywhere. If it doesn't,
00:51:18.91\00:51:23.24
that's the exception. And I
think we can do better. That's
00:51:23.24\00:51:26.65
the devil's work. And we
do want to give ground to the
00:51:26.65\00:51:29.72
devil. You know,
00:51:29.72\00:51:31.62
the reason I
believe this is so important
00:51:31.62\00:51:34.22
is because you
said it really Shelley,
00:51:34.22\00:51:36.86
the devil does not care whether
you get you here or there just
00:51:36.86\00:51:39.89
as long as you get you. We
are living in a time of absolute
00:51:39.89\00:51:44.03
crisis.
00:51:44.03\00:51:45.20
The devil as a roaring lion
walks about seeking whom he may
00:51:45.20\00:51:50.27
devour. We will have a target
right on us. The devil is angry
00:51:50.27\00:51:56.01
with the church and has gone to
make war with the rim and other
00:51:56.01\00:51:59.91
seed that's taking place.
Now, when we're in a spiritual
00:51:59.91\00:52:03.99
crisis,
00:52:03.99\00:52:05.12
the world has changed. The
nuclear family is and a massive
00:52:05.12\00:52:08.99
attack. The devil
is seen to be that way.
00:52:08.99\00:52:11.86
When I grew up my file that
was at blue collar work to do
00:52:11.86\00:52:16.13
enough blue collar work at
you and Ian Little. Nothing.
00:52:16.13\00:52:19.73
Mom stayed home.
00:52:19.73\00:52:21.44
We came home from
school. Was there?
00:52:21.44\00:52:25.71
I think that's great. I
actually think that's ideal.
00:52:25.71\00:52:28.41
Yes. But for many families,
it's unattainable. Yeah,
00:52:28.41\00:52:31.51
because prices are so high,
mortgage rate mortgages are so
00:52:31.51\00:52:36.42
big. The cost of housing has
gone through the roof. So what
00:52:36.42\00:52:40.76
that does is it stretches the
family whose home for the kids
00:52:40.76\00:52:44.69
that they raising themselves.
Are they being raised by an
00:52:44.69\00:52:47.56
iPad and a television screen
that's not healthy and not
00:52:47.56\00:52:51.37
criticizing acknowledging that
society has forced us to that
00:52:51.37\00:52:55.80
place where it's more and
more and more. I was at a high
00:52:55.80\00:52:58.97
school. I said to a kid, you
looking tired, man. He got the
00:52:58.97\00:53:01.68
jobs up to 4 o'clock this
morning has what you do in a
00:53:01.68\00:53:04.68
fall clock homework. He
said not Netflix. My life is
00:53:04.68\00:53:10.12
I don't think he
was watching Bambi for
00:53:10.12\00:53:13.69
our own little or no. He
would not watching. Yeah,
00:53:13.69\00:53:18.86
but that will be live in now.
00:53:18.86\00:53:20.96
It's a really, really difficult
world. So to find balance in
00:53:20.96\00:53:25.67
that hat, I can tell you how
00:53:25.67\00:53:28.40
I can tell you how to parents
working hard to provide a roof
00:53:28.40\00:53:31.87
over the head of the children.
00:53:31.87\00:53:33.41
You can do everything
perfectly. I don't know.
00:53:33.41\00:53:36.24
But I know it's possible
God doesn't condemn or criticize
00:53:36.24\00:53:39.01
those who find themselves
working more than they want to.
00:53:39.01\00:53:41.72
We've got to have some way to
live. We need to feed our kids.
00:53:41.72\00:53:45.05
We did. Church
school is not cheap.
00:53:45.05\00:53:47.82
And so we do this. But in the
you've got to find that balance
00:53:47.82\00:53:50.66
somehow that puts geez is at
the center of the the center of
00:53:50.66\00:53:55.06
the and he'll be that
thing that the home balances on
00:53:55.06\00:54:00.17
with. There's no balance if
we're not leaving our children
00:54:00.17\00:54:02.57
to Jesus every day. If you pray
with your kit with the with the
00:54:02.57\00:54:07.64
hat, family worship
00:54:07.64\00:54:09.34
ideally twice a day, but
schedules don't away so loud
00:54:09.34\00:54:11.91
that so you have family
worship, pray for you, cut and
00:54:11.91\00:54:16.15
pray. Now, if
you're too busy to pray,
00:54:16.15\00:54:20.26
then something's got. You've
got to give something back to
00:54:20.26\00:54:23.29
the devil because he's the one
who load your plate up so big
00:54:23.29\00:54:26.80
that God got
squeezed off the plate.
00:54:26.80\00:54:30.33
We first got to be praying
yourself. We've got to be
00:54:30.33\00:54:33.17
reading a Bible South
zone, then otherwise we're
00:54:33.17\00:54:35.94
unbalanced. It's the it's
the Bible. It's the would have
00:54:35.94\00:54:38.84
gone. It's pretty that keeps
us balance. Keeps us oriented in
00:54:38.84\00:54:42.94
the right direction. Balance is
found in a complete commitment
00:54:42.94\00:54:48.38
to Jesus being that living
sacrifice now lives around
00:54:48.38\00:54:52.29
mixed right now because we
stretch in 100 different ways.
00:54:52.29\00:54:55.02
We think we can have it
all. You can have a goal
00:54:55.02\00:54:58.29
you want to. You want to
live in a palace by the time.
00:54:58.29\00:55:00.33
You're 35. You kidding me.
You want to own every latest
00:55:00.33\00:55:03.73
vehicle. It was grow up.
Make make some decisions that
00:55:03.73\00:55:08.00
are based not on your ego
but on your income. You want it.
00:55:08.00\00:55:10.94
You want to do it all. You can
do it all. So do what you can
00:55:10.94\00:55:15.21
do, what you must. But put your
put Jesus first family first,
00:55:15.21\00:55:20.82
faith in God. First, if those
things on first us so far out
00:55:20.82\00:55:25.49
of balance, it's not funny.
00:55:25.49\00:55:27.52
>> You know, it takes
intentional effort is a
00:55:27.52\00:55:29.89
steadfast commitment coming.
You've got to encourage your
00:55:29.89\00:55:32.73
life on the truth of God's
word. Quickly. The Preakness,
00:55:32.73\00:55:37.33
some 20
00:55:37.33\00:55:39.40
5 and verse 8 to 10.
00:55:39.40\00:55:42.54
Good enough for it. It's
the Nord. Therefore he teaches
00:55:42.54\00:55:46.11
centers. We're all sinners
in the way the humble he guides
00:55:46.11\00:55:51.11
injustice. Humility is
depending on him all the past,
00:55:51.11\00:55:55.32
the Lord of Mercy and truth
to such as keep his company and
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his testimonies. So we are
in a cup of the relationship of
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righteousness by faith with
the Lord you can count on him.
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John Brennan show, thank
you so much for me. I hope we've
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covered some ground that's
helped my body. So I think we
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could probably talk about
this festival more shun. The
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extremes, embrace Jesus and in
Clinton like Olympic clings to
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the holiday ship.
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And I want you mentioned
to someone watching that maybe
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saying, can I really be safety
issue can and you know what?
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When he goes you with this
holy Spirit, he works in you,
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too. Willing to do is get
play yes. And he promises to
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complete the good work
case began anew. I got to do is
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pray.
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Why didn't you
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give up
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10 seconds.
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>> Advice. Yeah. I want to
encourage you to know that God
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loves you. He wants the very
best view of things are out of
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balance. It's not too late to
bring you back. Give your heart
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to Jesus pray. Those pray of
commitment will hold you in the
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hollow of his hand.
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>> Thank you so make you thank
you for being with us with that
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thing. Plus, the pressure
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