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>> I'm
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>> I want to stand
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too.
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>> I'm sheli crammed Jake.
Why? We are so thankful that
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you're joining us tonight.
You are going to enjoy 3 ABN
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live.
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We have a special guest and
I'm not going to belabor this
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point. Let me just go ahead
and you produce him cause. He is
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quite well known to our 3,
a B, an audience. He's a treat
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hours, Loveland. We're will
John Bradshaw and we are going
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to have a wonderful program
tonight. So John Bradshaw,
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president of it is written.
Thank you for being here.
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Shelley JD, thanks for having
me on this of being looking
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forward to this. We have
a great night. I you know,
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I was thinking
he's given us a title
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for tonight. It
is balance colon,
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finding God's path in a
world of extreme score. So think
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about this
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in all world, very polarized.
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How do we navigate the tensions
of life and all all of these
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extreme center even creeping
into the church? It seems that
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society is just becoming very
it's very extreme. How do we
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hold arise? This wind? Even
these extremes can threaten the
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core value of Christianity.
How do we embody the Lord?
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How do we embody what he wants
in this fragmented world we
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live in. That's what
we're going to learn tonight is
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absolutely.
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>> And I think I think you
degree most people would agree
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that it's really important.
This is the age of outrage.
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This is the time of extremes.
This is the time where if you
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voted for that person, then you
can't be my Facebook friend or
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even my friend. We becoming way
more extreme even as you sit in
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the church because the church
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regrettably is only ever
staple to behind the world.
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People are getting extreme.
We'll talk about some of those
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extremes thereof. There's
a raft of them, a variety of
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them. And I think
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I think we'll touch on a few
key points tonight. Wonderful.
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I want to
encourage with the scripture.
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>> I love this scripture.
Ah, this is the Lord speaking.
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I say a 42 in for 16.
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He says I will bring the blind
by way that they did not know.
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I will leave them in the past.
They have not known. I will
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make darkness light before them
and crooked places straight.
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These things I will do for them
and not for sake them. So even
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though we are facing a
conundrum, a dilemma, various
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hope because God's got
the answer will find it in his
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word. Well, honey, I know
everybody at home loves music.
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I know John is
music and stuff like that.
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What are we doing to one of?
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>> A very, very gifted friend
of ours. This name is Ryan Day.
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I'm sure that you're
familiar with Rhonda. In part a
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beautiful voice he has. He's
going to share with us with all
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my heart.
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>> And this cool, I police, too.
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>> I know all the foods rule.
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>> And to boost that for me.
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>> To you.
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>> I secrets to snow. You
have not know to my best and all
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around us to.
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>> With fuel.
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>> To and wants
to know, you know,
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I'm of
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>> each day to,
you know, you know.
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>> All that is too easy.
Only 2 miles to own the to all.
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>> You see police in my mind,
these cordy to be on the land.
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So help you to see it because
things before I see more.
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And and I trust, you
know what's best for me going?
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Oh, I don't. This time
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>> info and mobi ends.
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And every most.
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>> And my own.
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>> And one of us who
love, you know, and mom.
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>> Each day to know
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all that is is you
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you see on this too.
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>> Hines move you.
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>> We all need to.
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>> With school.
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>> I think that we can all
agree. He is very gifted and
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what I'm missing it with all my
heart. Well, if you're joining
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us just a moment tonight, our
special guest tonight for her
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life is John Bradshaw. Who is
the president of it is written.
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It is written, airs on 3 A
B and we've got your 7 school.
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We've got a lot of it is
written programs on 3, a B.
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And so, you know, well-known.
Yeah, you know the outcome.
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But what I like to do because
we have so many new fewer
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years. You have such a
fascinating personal testimony.
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Tell us how you came to really
have a relationship with the
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Lord. Yeah, that's that's
quite. That's quite a story.
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>> I was raised in a religious
my dad was a very religious
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man. My mother was not
religious at all. She never
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went to church.
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My dad went to church
every single solitary Sunday
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other days as well when it was
time for that special season of
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the year that we prayed
the rosary in people's houses.
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What dad would be did
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only 4 or 5 of 6 people to be
there. But my dad would be one
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of them. It was a good size
church. He take me from time to
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time.
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I feel like you thought I was
going to be a priest was the I
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am still the 7th
of 7 children. And so.
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>> You're the Babe. Yeah, yeah.
I know that's a lot of mothers.
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Mother say this to light.
This is what happened. So John
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says, aha, we know.
That's right. That's what, John,
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since that no one else is
that this is not say that.
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>> So I was I was right.
They went to the Catholic
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school, 5 doors down the
street from our house. I love my
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church. Loved going to church.
I was an altar boy. I was an
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altar boy at one stage
every day for about 2 and a half
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years and every Sunday, I mean,
every single day of the week.
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So that was quite
a streak I had going.
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But as I got older it, which
is some some things that I too
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would told learned that
just didn't seem right to me and
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underpinning. All of this was
the idea that in order to go to
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heaven, you had to be good
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and I wasn't good. And I did
not like the idea of not going
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to have an
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in fact, I'll show you
something. I don't often shape
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because it's honestly it's
quite grim and I don't want
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anybody to be triggered a ball
that or any of those share with
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you
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showing you that off to
confession. I was clean.
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Clean is clean. My
confession say my penance
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go Toews. Although the
priest would say I absolve you.
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I knew that by the time I got
5 doors down the street back to
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my house. I would have
sinned again as a little boy, 9,
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10, 11 years old that remember
exactly what that filled me
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with dread midnight. The night
came to the conclusion. If I
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could only die right now and
they'll go to him and you can.
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And church was on the main
road, the main highway through
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the country.
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And I remember standing out
in front of the church watching
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semis, drive-by thinking to
myself. Well, a funny one of
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them would run off the road
because I'm young, I'm healthy.
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I'm not likely to die. If one
of them would just run off the
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road
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could die. And that would be
all bad because I go to heaven.
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I'm sure I wake up with my
mother would go through and so
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full.
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I didn't think the
brothers with mine too much
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and I knew that wasn't going
to happen. Truck is going to run
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off the road at the what
if I throw myself on the one,
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she's pretty. That's that's a
pretty doc thought for a little
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boy. It is still I
wasn't suicidal. Not mean that,
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you know, you wanted to go
to. I want to go to heaven. I
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thought it funny. Well, I
knew that couldn't be right.
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So I didn't do that. So so
I have questions, you know,
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about my cell. They shun
and about some of these things.
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I was told
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as an altar boy went
to food, Lucia funerals
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and in the church, the
priest would say we can be happy
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because Mister Smith
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is in heaven right now in the
presence of God and with this
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departed wife or
whoever it might be.
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Well, 25 minutes
later at the cemetery
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and the same priest refers
to the same and says, well,
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now we lo Audi a brother into
the hot tub. You way. He will
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remain until the
resurrection of the last day.
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You know, I might have to being
a kid, but I was shopping up to
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know that no one can be in 2
places at once and the priest
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to put out for in both
in heaven and in the grave.
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At the same time, I couldn't
believe that I didn't like the
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idea of people burning in h***
forever and ever. I've no idea
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where they do not. But I didn't
think that God would do that to
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somebody. And we went to
the priest and the priest would
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forgive us our sins. Somebody
is going to say, oh, he did it
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in behalf of God, but he
shared I absolve you. The church
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teaches that he has that kind
of power, at least to at least
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we were taught that
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we had good priest
bill, no monkey business, the
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shenanigans that we knew about.
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He was one fellow,
though, who would come to mass
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seriously hung over because the
night before he's propping up
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the local by drinking whiskey
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and I was with Greensill
priest. If one did when he was
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the right though to beacon
fishing license to I didn't
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think that was dropped. Nor did
I think we should be praying to
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Saints.
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Why should a cop and to pray to
Saint Joseph, the patron saint
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of cop and his when he could
just pray to God in the name of
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Jesus who don't think in
the stuff as a little boy, 8,
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1911, years of age. Well,
what do you do? You know, I'm a
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Catholic. Where am I going
to go? And I lived under my
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father's roof and who as well.
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What I knew was that we
Catholics will going to heaven
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and everybody else, the poor
saps. They're all going to h***
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and not considered a great
waste because some of them a
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fine people, but
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that we're going to h*** and
I didn't want to be one of them.
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As I got older,
I became part of it
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into denominational youth
groups. We checked out the
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Baptist churches and so on.
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Then I got older. I hung
around. The penny cost was a
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bit.
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This was when the charismatic
renewal movement was going
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through town throughout church
in. So we would go to various
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churches for they prayer
and praise and the fellowship.
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And that was a lovely. But I
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and never found
anything that scene was
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right.
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And I must say scene because
it's not like I was weighing
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things up carefully with
the Bible. I didn't know how to.
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I began to call myself a
non-Catholic Catholic haha.
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And then the time came when
I did my overseas experience.
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You know, New Zealand is way
down here in the bottom of the
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youth. We have been
paying winds down to it.
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I travel to London in England,
which is what a lot of young
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adults did in that time from
New Zealand just to get out to
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eat, drink and be merry to see
the world and have fun. Yeah,
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but I was still searching
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frequently when I would leave
my home and go to another city
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far away or another country.
Not that I did that very often.
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Go to the church tonight.
Hope that he I would find real
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meaning in my faith, but it
just seemed to be the same old
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thing.
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While I was living in London,
I traveled to Ireland to the
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land. My ancestry religious
Ireland, I stated a pub on the
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Saturday night and I asked
the public an amended 80 Benson
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anyway, should I go to
mass tomorrow morning. So many
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churches in Limerick, Ireland.
He said there's one not fired.
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Schooled Saints Savior's church.
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I've been back since
to just to visit you.
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So I feel good.
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My grandmother was born in the
city. I don't know if she went
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to the church will not.
But she went one around here.
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Shiulie here. I will find
meaning in my faith and I ride
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at the church to be on a
Sunday morning to 25 people were
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rattling around inside
that church and there was an old
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cold priest and it
was an old Cold Church. An
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I set the just like someone
is shot goal of joy out of my
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life. And I sat
there and I said no
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normal. This is not it.
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And I left the church was
walking back to the pub of
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staying in
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kicking stones along the street
is I went and I looked up into
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the the cost Irish
sky. And I said out loud,
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I said I'm never going back
to church until you show me the
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truth. And yeah, well, I didn't
know that if you pray to pray
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like that gun was actually on
top. I am. I figured you would
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hear, but I didn't know what
happened next. I got back to
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London
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and waiting in the Mail.
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Rewind 8 years.
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My brother who had lived
at church begun keeping the
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Sabbath like a crazy person
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and changes life will to get
it gave me a book. He said this
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book is called The Great
Country to See You will love
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it. It's about history and
Prophesied explained in time of
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engine trouble. You really
like I said, Oh, thank you.
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By the way,
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even though my brother
had left out should each
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his life had improved. He was
a decent guy. He was no longer
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making poor decisions and bad
mistakes had respect for and I
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trusted him. Well, I didn't
read the book, though, just for
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no reason and have it.
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4 years later. He said to
me, did you ever read that book?
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I said no. I ran to find
it. I said I can't even find it.
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Now
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he said that, okay, he's a
second company. Well, I moved
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to London and I was searching.
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I even wrote to my brother
and said, what do you think?
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I could find that book. I
remember going down to Charing
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Cross Road and going into used
bookstore saying it's it's it's
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it's a book. It's about a
controversy that all of his
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last name was White. No, sorry
night. We don't have that book
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here.
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I wrote my brother.
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I get back from Ireland.
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What's waiting in the
copy number 3 of this book, the
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Great Country to see. So
it wasn't working at the time.
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Unfortunately, I
was looking for work.
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I would sit up late at night
and set up late at night in the
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Baath tub
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reading. I think it was
full now within, you know, maybe
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about the reading my book, the
going tough on the lining it.
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I still have that same
company that he gave me
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and one night in the
bottom. I bowed my head
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and I said, OK,
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okay, we're going to do this.
And I accept Jesus as my Lord
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and savior. And I want to
follow the Bible, whatever that
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means, whatever
that means. The next day
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I got on the phone, I
called the upper right.
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And I said I want if you
be kind enough to give me the
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phone number for the 7th
Day Adventists cathedral.
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He might.
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I brought up my brother become
a city they had and I knew that
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as a kid as a kid, my brother
said to me when I was a kid,
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what date ego
touch? What does the 7th
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I said? Well, Sunday, of course.
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And he said what? What day of
the week is the 7 that was 7th
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day. Everybody knows that.
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He said his
Sunday, the 7th day. Yes,
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I ran to the calendar.
My father brought home from
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church, a Columbian Kellen de.
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Get them every year.
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1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, What's this
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Saturday?
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I said Saturday. Why then do
I go to church on Sunday? And he
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should because your church
changed the day and I said,
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well, it might you change the
day. That's good enough for me.
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He should you really
think it's good enough?
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I knew it was and
just a child. And I said
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sure, it's good enough. But
in Chile and go, you can change
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the law of gone. I've never
had a bible study, but who can
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change the come on? That's
much what you've done that.
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So so I I thought
thought if you're going to start
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somewhere, you might just
stop with the right day, right.
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And I cold this church called
the operating looking for a
00:19:51.29\00:19:54.06
Chinooks that KSAT Cathedral
before the committee. Well,
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same polls was downtown and
Westminster Abbey was downtown
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Longview. The Baptist said
a big thing downtown. I see it
00:20:01.80\00:20:04.83
the 7 day. People will have
a big thing downtown too well,
00:20:04.83\00:20:08.87
which which they didn't
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anyway, it gets quite comical
because that cold, that church
00:20:12.24\00:20:14.68
and at a Spanish
speaker out just a phone
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I've been following go around
the world when to Ireland that
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funny, quick Catholicism. I
pray the prayer got the book.
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I read the book out called
The Upper to Call the Church and
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someone on the phone. Is it
boy, do they know what? What
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did you know? It's Spanish
was expecting some English
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communicate on this man.
Jamie, want to give my life to
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it.
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I tried to Lehman number.
Of course, he has no way he
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could understand
the couldn't understand.
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I got the phone. I said
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I tried
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will a couple of days later
the phone rang out into the
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hello is John Bradshaw with
it? A delightful English accent.
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How was I to know they had a
Spanish-language congregation.
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I was I to know that the
and Pasha David Cox school, he
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should all come to
visit. You go. You will look
00:21:10.13\00:21:12.93
that would drive through all
that traffic come door. I must
00:21:12.93\00:21:15.37
all come to you. He you
know, you've got to go today,
00:21:15.37\00:21:18.77
but I said that was an
optional. Come to you. And we
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arranged to meet Wednesday
night at prayer meeting.
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They were heading revelations,
Salmon War. Yeah, fabulous.
00:21:23.24\00:21:29.15
And so I expect that the whole
place would be crowded. He told
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me you go. You get off
at Piccadilly Circus. Go up.
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Regent Street, 2 blocks to
hit in the street. The lift and
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then you see a country life
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health food restaurant.
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Right before that. This is
to catch up the state case.
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Got to the state, the stairway
to heaven. I feel here I and
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this is great.
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A look inside the goal.
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No one in 5 ladies. 2
main men seem to be crazy.
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>> Haha.
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>> Chose those words carefully.
Yesterday. Seems to be he we
00:22:02.92\00:22:06.39
would honor your mother
told you they were. I think that
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would.
00:22:09.52\00:22:10.89
And and I send it back at
the church thinking what hath
00:22:10.89\00:22:14.46
what hath God ruled? You
know what hath God wrought here.
00:22:14.46\00:22:17.20
And it's just
00:22:17.20\00:22:18.40
and I said, no, I went to a
perfectly good church with a
00:22:18.40\00:22:20.87
lot of people.
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And he ran
00:22:22.67\00:22:24.17
in central London and no one
even comes to this place on a
00:22:24.17\00:22:26.94
Wednesday night.
I should not done.
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That's one of the
victims seem right.
00:22:30.41\00:22:32.65
But if this is right, you know,
you copy bummed out. By the way
00:22:32.65\00:22:36.89
the church looks with the
people. You looking for truth
00:22:36.89\00:22:40.89
and you, Jean, yes,
00:22:40.89\00:22:43.69
give this time and now I'm it
with the pastor asked him some
00:22:43.69\00:22:47.23
questions. The front door
is Bible like wouldn't believe.
00:22:47.23\00:22:50.00
I've never seen anyone do that.
00:22:50.00\00:22:51.87
Come to church on 7th. Yes,
I'll be there. I showed up in
00:22:51.87\00:22:54.94
church right along here.
Much scruffy beat my earring in
00:22:54.94\00:22:57.74
my ear and I had holes in
my jeans before. That was cool
00:22:57.74\00:23:02.68
high.
00:23:02.68\00:23:03.88
Not that one. 10 issues
that was squashed. She's applied
00:23:03.88\00:23:06.21
squashing the shoes
that will warning out
00:23:06.21\00:23:08.62
had old overcoat, a bolt
from the upshot, the opportunity
00:23:08.62\00:23:11.32
shop to cancel and they love
me like the prodigal son and
00:23:11.32\00:23:15.79
rigid. And I just love me.
You know what's interesting to
00:23:15.79\00:23:19.76
bring this full circle?
How did I know this at the time
00:23:19.76\00:23:23.73
that was at the new Gallery?
00:23:23.73\00:23:26.40
George Van Den, the founder
of it is written, had preached
00:23:26.40\00:23:30.27
these lodge series of meetings
in central London and sent to
00:23:30.27\00:23:33.64
the General conference
new. You go to buy property in
00:23:33.64\00:23:36.11
central London and they
did they both the new gallery.
00:23:36.11\00:23:39.45
George held meetings in the
new gallery long before my time.
00:23:39.45\00:23:42.88
And I was baptized a bowlers.
He is later. So that was,
00:23:42.88\00:23:46.72
but you I don't know whether
that's full circle with her.
00:23:46.72\00:23:49.29
It means nothing at all. But
00:23:49.29\00:23:51.19
that's what
happened. So I was baptized.
00:23:51.19\00:23:53.80
>> You like me? I won't go into
my store right now. But like
00:23:53.80\00:23:58.23
me, you are a seeker. Yeah,
I was. You wanted it to line up
00:23:58.23\00:24:03.00
with Bibles troop decided
yet and was able to show you the
00:24:03.00\00:24:06.04
Bible and you accepted
it a lot along the way.
00:24:06.04\00:24:11.18
>> The woman who is to go for
my brother at the time and she
00:24:11.18\00:24:13.35
was quite an active Christian
gave me a book about prophecy
00:24:13.35\00:24:15.82
that I was just and throw
up. I was called the late great
00:24:15.82\00:24:18.12
planet. And I was so
interesting that I got to the
00:24:18.12\00:24:21.49
end of it. I said, well, none
of this makes a lick of sense.
00:24:21.49\00:24:23.73
But it's so interesting.
And it just hit pithy on says
00:24:23.73\00:24:28.00
the stuff that I remember
reading thinking. No, no,
00:24:28.00\00:24:30.73
that requires more
than that. That was just
00:24:30.73\00:24:33.94
it was an initiated. And it
seemed that that book gave gave
00:24:33.94\00:24:38.21
Pat on just the things that
just didn't seem right to me.
00:24:38.21\00:24:41.41
I don't know why I just thank
God. It didn't seem right to
00:24:41.41\00:24:43.61
me.
00:24:43.61\00:24:45.18
So I had being interested.
I've been searching a being
00:24:45.18\00:24:47.58
seeking. I I said to the little
so look, I would say to anybody
00:24:47.58\00:24:52.29
if if you if a prey that pre
God will launch that pre out.
00:24:52.29\00:24:56.49
You said the Lord, I
just want to follow the truth.
00:24:56.49\00:25:00.86
He'll give you all the truth
you can handle because it's
00:25:00.86\00:25:03.50
right in the
Bible. And in a minute
00:25:03.50\00:25:07.20
now you're bad ties team in
the same church where George
00:25:07.20\00:25:12.31
Benjamin did his series
that year. The president is not.
00:25:12.31\00:25:16.68
It is right now. The strangest
tell us you just had an
00:25:16.68\00:25:19.68
anniversary for it is written.
We chose that. 68 P a that's
00:25:19.68\00:25:23.72
just a couple is just early
this week, 3 days ago at 68
00:25:23.72\00:25:27.59
made. Yes, we've been hanging
around on the front lines of
00:25:27.59\00:25:29.96
ministry for some time. And,
00:25:29.96\00:25:31.69
you know, it's a privilege.
And I I thank those who went
00:25:31.69\00:25:33.83
before me as it is written,
those who who preserved the
00:25:33.83\00:25:37.77
ministry and retain the
integrity of the ministry.
00:25:37.77\00:25:40.80
And and Kip, the ministry on
the front lines of evangelism
00:25:40.80\00:25:44.54
mission enough and do
it. We feel like that's out.
00:25:44.54\00:25:51.45
>> Sign a shoe at a North star.
00:25:51.45\00:25:54.15
And if we if we if we lose the
focus on so winning evangelism,
00:25:54.15\00:25:57.59
then we don't really have a
reason to exist. You man and
00:25:57.59\00:26:00.42
the latest us a lot of changes.
Yeah, that's right. Lock and
00:26:00.42\00:26:04.23
show. You know, that's kind of
direction that we're eventually
00:26:04.23\00:26:07.30
going to get into is just
00:26:07.30\00:26:09.30
from 68 years ago.
00:26:09.30\00:26:12.50
You know, people actually where
they were you going to church
00:26:12.50\00:26:16.04
and that had a little flip
or down at you and me alone.
00:26:16.04\00:26:19.01
It,
00:26:19.01\00:26:20.54
you know, big
changes all. I mean, now,
00:26:20.54\00:26:23.04
how do we know? They're
still have those? But anyways,
00:26:23.04\00:26:25.65
lots of changes. And now,
you know, we're on the extreme.
00:26:25.65\00:26:28.95
And that's right.
00:26:28.95\00:26:30.55
>> But before we get to talking
about the extremes tells all
00:26:30.55\00:26:34.89
that I will not all we don't
have time, but tell us a little
00:26:34.89\00:26:37.99
about the current ministry of.
00:26:37.99\00:26:41.00
>> It is the only place we
get to go to work every day and
00:26:41.00\00:26:44.57
then you you have the same
experience because the ABA is
00:26:44.57\00:26:48.10
all about mission and
evangelism. Yes, we get to go
00:26:48.10\00:26:50.81
to work every day and
dream and create and work
00:26:50.81\00:26:53.71
and and do things. We pray
by the meeting of God, by the
00:26:53.71\00:26:58.28
grace of God that will direct
people to Christ and to the
00:26:58.28\00:27:01.65
Bible and to faith in Jesus and
the preparation for the return
00:27:01.65\00:27:05.75
of Jesus. I mean, what would
you rather do, right? And so
00:27:05.75\00:27:09.66
what started with one program
in English, it's morphed into
00:27:09.66\00:27:13.09
several programs in Spanish and
many more programs in English
00:27:13.09\00:27:16.06
that we record his original.
We have our own channel.
00:27:16.06\00:27:18.77
It is written DOT TV online.
We will continue to do missions
00:27:18.77\00:27:23.71
and evangelism with the
team and elect 2 teams in Alaska
00:27:23.71\00:27:26.71
right now that doing medical
missionary work in preparation
00:27:26.71\00:27:30.75
for an
evangelistic series coming up
00:27:30.75\00:27:33.08
a few years ago was during
COVID. We begin to 7 school
00:27:33.08\00:27:36.55
program where we speak to the
author of the 7 School. Listen,
00:27:36.55\00:27:40.19
it is on 3ABN, some
other places. Well, so
00:27:40.19\00:27:43.63
we just we're just having fun.
I cannot tell you what my wife
00:27:43.63\00:27:45.89
is being up. Yes, please.
Nation bloc says Kay's show you
00:27:45.89\00:27:50.63
this, though. This is a
beauty. This is flight 3.16, and
00:27:50.63\00:27:55.74
everything is now starting to
come back from the print right
00:27:55.74\00:27:58.34
now. It's a vacation
Bible school. They've now got my
00:27:58.34\00:28:01.14
wife, Melissa leads my
place with chases, which is our
00:28:01.14\00:28:04.75
children's ministry.
00:28:04.75\00:28:06.01
>> So the about the
significance of flight 3.16,
00:28:06.01\00:28:09.65
for someone that might be
tuning in. That's never seen a
00:28:09.65\00:28:12.95
religious program. We know what.
00:28:12.95\00:28:16.12
>> Matthew, 3.16 said. Yeah.
The the the the image on 3 of
00:28:16.12\00:28:20.46
the name comes from, of course,
John, 3.16, for God. So loved
00:28:20.46\00:28:23.63
the world that a gay, the
vacation Bible School is a
00:28:23.63\00:28:26.47
program for kids and its
community outreach. So you do
00:28:26.47\00:28:29.87
the Vbs a new church. Of
course, you'll kids will be
00:28:29.87\00:28:32.11
blessed to invite neighborhood
kids to be there in he the
00:28:32.11\00:28:35.98
kids, the children, the
participants travel to 5
00:28:35.98\00:28:38.35
countries on 5
different continents.
00:28:38.35\00:28:41.18
By some odd coincidence, one of
those countries is New Zealand.
00:28:41.18\00:28:45.29
My goodness me now that I think
it just it up. But they go to
00:28:45.29\00:28:49.16
Asian African, South America
and Europe in the sand and
00:28:49.16\00:28:52.59
Australasia and they
learn about the coaches and the
00:28:52.59\00:28:55.66
people in the animals and
maybe the foods and so forth.
00:28:55.66\00:28:59.60
They lose scriptures songs that
they will never forget. They
00:28:59.60\00:29:03.47
play games and Croft and they
memorize Bible verses and they
00:29:03.47\00:29:08.61
study the Bible with the little
little kids or older kids.
00:29:08.61\00:29:12.65
They do Bible studies every
night and they love it and the
00:29:12.65\00:29:16.15
church is love it. And I'm very
grateful not just to Melissa
00:29:16.15\00:29:19.12
but 2 out team. This is this
is nicely designed the full.
00:29:19.12\00:29:22.76
But what I wanted to say is
that in that box, it contains
00:29:22.76\00:29:26.83
everything including the
poster. So there's all those
00:29:26.83\00:29:29.73
manuals for the Bible study
said the crafts, everything
00:29:29.73\00:29:33.47
infected comes really with the
materials for 14 kids. So you
00:29:33.47\00:29:36.34
don't have to go and buy.
If you're having a small vbs,
00:29:36.34\00:29:38.71
you don't have to tune in to
buy the materials because it's
00:29:38.71\00:29:41.18
all in there for the first
14 children that come along.
00:29:41.18\00:29:43.71
So we thought about that.
The menus are easy to follow.
00:29:43.71\00:29:46.65
This is plug and play.
00:29:46.65\00:29:48.18
And in fact, Melissa was was it
some place? And she saw a lady
00:29:48.18\00:29:52.42
holding a vbs Manuel just
holding out the issue. She
00:29:52.42\00:29:56.59
said, you know what, which
is make the funk begun. So it's
00:29:56.59\00:29:59.29
easy to read now. So even
the manuals are easy to read and
00:29:59.29\00:30:02.73
up.
00:30:02.73\00:30:03.90
We were careful to respect
the sensibilities of people.
00:30:03.90\00:30:06.50
When it comes to music.
Sometimes of BBs is the music
00:30:06.50\00:30:09.67
can get a little
00:30:09.67\00:30:11.27
energetic, nothing wrong with
energy. And if that that's what
00:30:11.27\00:30:14.21
floats your boat. And I I'm
not here to disparage you'll
00:30:14.21\00:30:16.78
persuasion, but we've made sure
that no one to be offended by
00:30:16.78\00:30:19.88
this music. It's scriptures
songs. Beautifully done.
00:30:19.88\00:30:22.72
Beautifully sung well range.
So the music is you. You can
00:30:22.72\00:30:26.55
trust the music if if you
have questions about music.
00:30:26.55\00:30:29.19
>> And I say from here, we're
going to Brazil, we're going to
00:30:29.19\00:30:33.16
Africa. Botswana wanna
show we're going to New Zealand?
00:30:33.16\00:30:36.23
Yeah, of course this place they
went out and taking the kids to
00:30:36.23\00:30:39.33
Great Britain. That certainly
is not a Texas drawl. I just
00:30:39.33\00:30:42.20
like the people should guess it
probably lose a limb and 5th in
00:30:42.20\00:30:45.64
here. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And the
then there's London and I can't
00:30:45.64\00:30:50.18
hail the bottom. And China.
The China on a wow. They're
00:30:50.18\00:30:54.08
doing the work over the world.
Yes. So great fun. You know it.
00:30:54.08\00:30:57.55
>> Get those who run the vbs.
Of course, it's just a limited
00:30:57.55\00:31:01.92
by the creativity when we
did it out. Huge last year's
00:31:01.92\00:31:05.06
someone made this colossal
animals from all over the
00:31:05.06\00:31:07.40
place. And and we have this
handyman in the church as you
00:31:07.40\00:31:11.83
look up a bill that a chicken
counties. So the kids coming
00:31:11.83\00:31:15.47
just like there in April
and May are great fun. Yeah,
00:31:15.47\00:31:18.81
right? Yeah. So tell us
what you doing in India.
00:31:18.81\00:31:22.38
Indy is terrific. We've had
a humanitarian project going on
00:31:22.38\00:31:26.55
in India for some time.
00:31:26.55\00:31:28.62
And what we've what
we've done in India,
00:31:28.62\00:31:32.29
this this goes
back a few years now
00:31:32.29\00:31:34.56
is with partnering with
an ophthalmologist inducted
00:31:34.56\00:31:37.53
shakeup, Rybak, a who has
00:31:37.53\00:31:41.43
I know the book gifted hands
was about not been caution.
00:31:41.43\00:31:45.40
This man has gifted hands. You
00:31:45.40\00:31:47.84
in India, there are millions
and millions and millions of
00:31:47.84\00:31:51.97
blind people
00:31:51.97\00:31:54.18
and for reasons many of which
unknown and some which may be
00:31:54.18\00:31:58.48
in OT
00:31:58.48\00:31:59.55
this millions of people
with cataracts, if they're not
00:31:59.55\00:32:03.28
treated, they'll lose the
sight. The right becomes very
00:32:03.28\00:32:06.22
painful. Now, these on
cataracts like grand my head
00:32:06.22\00:32:10.09
with vision, got a little
cloudy and she went to a doctor
00:32:10.09\00:32:12.89
of food to the off the mala.
Justin, this is not that these
00:32:12.89\00:32:16.77
cataracts that you can see from
across the room. Well, usually
00:32:16.77\00:32:20.54
hype and that you cataracts
where the lens of the eye is
00:32:20.54\00:32:23.61
about the color of
the nicotine stay and
00:32:23.61\00:32:28.01
when dealing with poor people.
So we're not doing this bangle
00:32:28.01\00:32:31.61
for the it people. This is
being done in the villages in
00:32:31.61\00:32:36.79
the hinterlands.
00:32:36.79\00:32:38.45
People will travel literally
for hours to get there because
00:32:38.45\00:32:41.79
they want to see a guy, you know
00:32:41.79\00:32:45.66
where we live. If you having
vision problems, their social
00:32:45.66\00:32:48.56
services and support services
and you get equipment in you
00:32:48.56\00:32:51.80
watch will talk to you in the
computer will talk to you and
00:32:51.80\00:32:54.24
so forth. Not an
Indian village. You
00:32:54.24\00:32:59.91
when I was
there early this year,
00:32:59.91\00:33:02.44
we spoke to a man who
was desperate. He said
00:33:02.44\00:33:06.85
what's the point of living?
If you can see when we wouldn't
00:33:06.85\00:33:10.05
say that in the
United States? I think
00:33:10.05\00:33:13.05
he should that they spoke about
not wanting to be a burden.
00:33:13.05\00:33:16.49
I'm going to be good.
00:33:16.49\00:33:18.83
And if I can be blunt
00:33:18.83\00:33:21.26
in India in some situations,
the blind and could you know to
00:33:21.26\00:33:25.33
me, yeah, well, there's a
lot that the families got to do
00:33:25.33\00:33:28.30
everything for them.
00:33:28.30\00:33:30.31
I don't mean that with
disrespect to your to what they
00:33:30.31\00:33:32.87
go through that you can't
prepare the food you can look
00:33:32.87\00:33:36.75
at. You
00:33:36.75\00:33:37.91
do with the government's not
sending you a check. Even using
00:33:37.91\00:33:41.98
the bathroom is rather more
complex. In addition to wish
00:33:41.98\00:33:44.52
yes, even the clothing in
the bathroom, people want the
00:33:44.52\00:33:48.96
dignity they will be able to
see in one what a miracle for a
00:33:48.96\00:33:51.93
blind person to
be able to come to a
00:33:51.93\00:33:54.10
a camp that will conduct a
Hindu temple or a Sikh temple
00:33:54.10\00:33:58.97
or at the hospital, perhaps in
Punjab state, wherever it might
00:33:58.97\00:34:03.37
be.
00:34:03.37\00:34:04.37
And free free,
00:34:04.37\00:34:06.17
they receive eye surgery.
Doctor Jacob, does the cataract
00:34:06.17\00:34:08.71
surgery in less than 2 minutes.
What you're likable without the
00:34:08.71\00:34:12.71
mod cons that you might
find an American operating room.
00:34:12.71\00:34:16.08
We've never had an infection.
Thank the Lord came out and
00:34:16.08\00:34:21.79
people say they see a game.
They see again, that I think
00:34:21.79\00:34:24.73
about a couple pictures with
Yale. I want to see the baby is
00:34:24.73\00:34:28.53
that it's amazing to this
is everybody else in Memorial
00:34:28.53\00:34:31.47
Hospital. And there's a group
of people they glosses on that
00:34:31.47\00:34:35.44
just had surgery. And we
brought these folks in from a
00:34:35.44\00:34:39.51
village. I want to say a
neighboring village, but it's
00:34:39.51\00:34:41.91
not.
00:34:41.91\00:34:43.08
It was actually an hour and
a half to 2 hours drive because
00:34:43.08\00:34:47.12
of a deal with the Indian roads.
00:34:47.12\00:34:48.98
The man to my left, he's
colorfully dressed. He's got
00:34:48.98\00:34:52.69
the orange stuff.
00:34:52.69\00:34:54.76
Now when we met him,
he carries a big sword
00:34:54.76\00:34:58.03
and intimidating looking sold.
This man is some kind of see
00:34:58.03\00:35:02.40
quarry, a Sikh warrior.
00:35:02.40\00:35:05.30
And so he's colorful
00:35:05.30\00:35:07.77
and up when
00:35:07.77\00:35:10.94
we would they when they took
his bandages off and then they
00:35:10.94\00:35:13.68
examined his eyes. Oh,
man, this was so moving.
00:35:13.68\00:35:16.58
He said, you know, I hope
you don't mind. But but when I
00:35:16.58\00:35:19.55
experienced joy, I like to sing,
00:35:19.55\00:35:22.38
we show we don't mind at all.
00:35:22.38\00:35:24.15
And he broke out into this
spontaneous impromptu song that
00:35:24.15\00:35:29.12
he composed as he went singing
about how he is a Sikh man and
00:35:29.12\00:35:33.06
he has faith in God and how
the Christian God has healed him
00:35:33.06\00:35:37.07
that we so grateful to
have a site. All one of the most
00:35:37.07\00:35:40.37
moving things. You've been
the scene, just beautiful. So we
00:35:40.37\00:35:44.07
arrived at a Hindu temple
one time a previous visit.
00:35:44.07\00:35:47.08
And when we got there,
00:35:47.08\00:35:49.11
the Hindu priest
looked actually see it.
00:35:49.11\00:35:51.55
Well, friends, the Christians
here and now how wonderful.
00:35:51.55\00:35:55.98
And, you know, building
relationships like that.
00:35:55.98\00:35:58.95
It made a powerful it is just
to to to sue disinterested Lee,
00:35:58.95\00:36:03.96
which is not an interestingly
disinterested Lee for the
00:36:03.96\00:36:06.80
blessing into benefit about
this, she says, told has told
00:36:06.80\00:36:10.20
us
00:36:10.20\00:36:11.00
to help and and into the and
00:36:11.00\00:36:14.37
minister to people and ice for
India. The way that we can do
00:36:14.37\00:36:18.47
that is only $75 and somebody
can see that. That's the case.
00:36:18.47\00:36:22.41
It's not just the
ophthalmologist, the hospital,
00:36:22.41\00:36:24.41
but this is a that the
hard way. The intra ocular liens
00:36:24.41\00:36:28.48
many times that some that's
that's picking someone up and
00:36:28.48\00:36:31.85
and and bring them several
hours in a bus one direction
00:36:31.85\00:36:34.66
and back and accommodation
and food and all of that.
00:36:34.66\00:36:37.49
Yeah, it's quite amazing.
Yeah. So we just we do it
00:36:37.49\00:36:40.53
because,
00:36:40.53\00:36:41.73
well, I think Jesus would
have us do it. And then it
00:36:41.73\00:36:45.47
gives the people to give
scientists a bit. We're going
00:36:45.47\00:36:47.77
to say to a contribution that
the wonderful and, you know,
00:36:47.77\00:36:51.11
I have to tell you, because
00:36:51.11\00:36:52.67
>> I have an autoimmune disease
and it's affecting my eye and
00:36:52.67\00:36:56.64
that Cornell dystrophy missile
of a sudden and its icy pond.
00:36:56.64\00:37:02.02
But a little blurry.
00:37:02.02\00:37:03.89
The thought of losing
your fishing here is amazing.
00:37:03.89\00:37:08.86
And it's it's frightening.
But the thought of someone
00:37:08.86\00:37:12.43
who's been years with
these hyper to developed
00:37:12.43\00:37:17.23
cataracts, that's yeah. Such an
a I read a full burden to then
00:37:17.23\00:37:23.84
to the families for $75.
I think we all ought to just
00:37:23.84\00:37:28.28
the sponsor of 1, 0, yeah,
I screwed India Discotheque.
00:37:28.28\00:37:32.25
>> I I w its readers read and
all that long defined I W dot
00:37:32.25\00:37:36.45
com. It's just it's just a rock
with me. If you if you know a
00:37:36.45\00:37:39.75
blind person, what what would
you give? Yeah, glad to see.
00:37:39.75\00:37:44.43
You know, there's no there's
a pride put. So this is just the
00:37:44.43\00:37:47.93
most fantastic thing to see
those who can't see see him out
00:37:47.93\00:37:52.97
and end their head the and a
grateful and they thank you and
00:37:52.97\00:37:56.74
that thanking God. And we want
to thank God we want to thank
00:37:56.74\00:37:59.44
you. You'll go the Christian
God because he has given us
00:37:59.44\00:38:02.38
this gift to see.
00:38:02.38\00:38:04.15
You know, India is a place
where proselytizing is really
00:38:04.15\00:38:08.15
difficult,
00:38:08.15\00:38:09.48
but no place is a place where
showing love to others. And
00:38:09.48\00:38:13.99
that's difficult. And
that's what this is showing
00:38:13.99\00:38:17.43
showing love to others and
helping those who can help of
00:38:17.43\00:38:22.36
its Wilson. Well.
00:38:22.36\00:38:23.70
>> Mark family was visiting
recently for year anniversary.
00:38:23.70\00:38:27.34
Yeah, that's right. That
picture, tell us pet picture
00:38:27.34\00:38:30.64
with yes, yes, yes.
00:38:30.64\00:38:32.21
>> I just happened to be
recording 7 school programs on
00:38:32.21\00:38:35.64
the day, which was a 68 book
day. And so there is on the set
00:38:35.64\00:38:39.18
with Eric Flicking. Just Erica
is one of our revenge a list.
00:38:39.18\00:38:43.35
>> And mark, those who speak
a Mark Finley is the author of
00:38:43.35\00:38:47.82
the 2nd Quarter and its head.
00:38:47.82\00:38:50.53
>> You fall into we're speaking
about the great controversy.
00:38:50.53\00:38:54.66
Really? It's about
the great controversy.
00:38:54.66\00:38:57.17
And if anybody can write
about that authoritatively and
00:38:57.17\00:39:00.17
effectively its pasta Finley
00:39:00.17\00:39:02.27
and you to mock was the
president of the district and
00:39:02.27\00:39:04.31
before my time. So, you
know, kind of like my my my
00:39:04.31\00:39:07.81
I knew I shouldn't say
that. But yeah, my grand, my
00:39:07.81\00:39:11.25
grandfather who is going to bat
for me that you know so well,
00:39:11.25\00:39:15.28
Mike, Mike,
00:39:15.28\00:39:17.45
anyone like my grandfather,
that's probably enough. But
00:39:17.45\00:39:21.16
anyway, these a special man,
you know, he's he's well versed
00:39:21.16\00:39:25.46
in the system.
00:39:25.46\00:39:27.40
It's a wonderful one of
the kind the yeah. Yeah. So you
00:39:27.40\00:39:30.27
know, he he was
00:39:30.27\00:39:31.93
one of those people who did
such a great work, a great work
00:39:31.93\00:39:35.34
and it is written. It is
written held meetings in the
00:39:35.34\00:39:37.17
Kremlin. You
know, Inman was there,
00:39:37.17\00:39:39.97
Nick 95 96 in acts 2000 that
happened while not Finley was
00:39:39.97\00:39:45.58
that it is written in. Yeah.
What a lot of guys touch so
00:39:45.58\00:39:49.18
many lives and just keeps
on doing it. I don't think
00:39:49.18\00:39:52.62
I don't think he knows how to
slow down to thank God for him.
00:39:52.62\00:39:55.39
Yeah. Yeah. You know what?
00:39:55.39\00:39:57.59
>> Sometimes people
ask ask when you can retire
00:39:57.59\00:40:00.76
retirements. Not even in our
book. What would you do that?
00:40:00.76\00:40:03.33
We haven't talked about it
because I knew so many people
00:40:03.33\00:40:06.84
it. I think that a universal
needs to have a purpose.
00:40:06.84\00:40:11.21
And I know it's so many people
who have retired and and life
00:40:11.21\00:40:17.71
just yeah, their life or
seems to dwindle. Yeah. And so I
00:40:17.71\00:40:22.15
don't think retirements in the
Bible and I know Mark doesn't
00:40:22.15\00:40:25.22
feel that way. As
long as you've got Brett,
00:40:25.22\00:40:28.49
I feel he's out there.
00:40:28.49\00:40:29.96
>> That's not to share the
gospel. Know there are people,
00:40:29.96\00:40:32.36
you know that the bank says
you go to retire at 65 or the
00:40:32.36\00:40:35.73
factory says you're done.
And that's great. So you you
00:40:35.73\00:40:39.57
retired from that. But don't
retire from service to retire.
00:40:39.57\00:40:42.67
Hello. Don't resign from being
on the front lines. You I tell
00:40:42.67\00:40:47.31
you what every church in
the land is looking for. Someone
00:40:47.31\00:40:49.78
who will can say
00:40:49.78\00:40:51.18
what can I do to help and every
community in the land is in
00:40:51.18\00:40:55.08
need of someone else who
will stand up and say, I want to
00:40:55.08\00:40:57.62
take Jesus into this community
somehow volunteer. You know
00:40:57.62\00:41:01.72
what it is written. We've
got a gaggle of volunteers. We
00:41:01.72\00:41:04.36
couldn't function without them.
And I'd like to think that day
00:41:04.36\00:41:07.86
volunteering is is a mounted
for them to the have. No doubt.
00:41:07.86\00:41:11.30
It is just so.
00:41:11.30\00:41:12.63
>> What a blessing. So tell
us real quickly, because we've
00:41:12.63\00:41:15.40
just got a few more minutes.
And this hour we're going to
00:41:15.40\00:41:18.24
get into our topic tonight. Is
00:41:18.24\00:41:21.58
balance finding God's
path in a world of extremes.
00:41:21.58\00:41:27.18
But tell us what direction
what's the future immediately
00:41:27.18\00:41:31.59
for it is written.
00:41:31.59\00:41:32.82
>> It's interesting thing is it
because we're not going to stop
00:41:32.82\00:41:35.29
doing what we do.
00:41:35.29\00:41:36.99
We're always looking for better
and more effective ways of
00:41:36.99\00:41:40.10
doing it. How can we be
more effective on social media?
00:41:40.10\00:41:43.33
What new program can we could
we should we create? We should
00:41:43.33\00:41:47.50
we be doing evangelism? We do
a lot of training. We have salt
00:41:47.50\00:41:53.27
is our evangelism training
school for 4 and a half months
00:41:53.27\00:41:56.95
long. Will we do some assault
which is a shorter summer
00:41:56.95\00:42:00.25
program. We do road so we take
sold on the road to churches
00:42:00.25\00:42:03.82
here in the
00:42:03.82\00:42:05.02
and energize churches so
that the church becomes an
00:42:05.02\00:42:07.59
evangelist and center not just
and and abroad. I mean, to be
00:42:07.59\00:42:11.76
disrespectful, but not
just come during the ground.
00:42:11.76\00:42:16.26
You know what I believe.
In fact, this is what I know.
00:42:16.26\00:42:19.07
God's people would
share the faith every last
00:42:19.07\00:42:23.00
most of God's people. She they
think if someone showed him how
00:42:23.00\00:42:26.44
and I believe someone gave
him an opportunity and show them
00:42:26.44\00:42:29.64
how easy it can be cent took
the intimidation factor out of
00:42:29.64\00:42:33.31
this. I recall Erika going
to a church in North Carolina,
00:42:33.31\00:42:36.58
trained to me said we're going
to go out in the community for
00:42:36.58\00:42:38.65
30 minutes.
00:42:38.65\00:42:39.92
What are you going to
do? Well, in this case and of
00:42:39.92\00:42:41.62
course, you don't always have
to do this. He said we're going
00:42:41.62\00:42:43.83
to knock on doors, have
moves. He suddenly people had
00:42:43.83\00:42:46.33
appendicitis and we're a cut
in the bad back at you the whole
00:42:46.33\00:42:50.23
thing. But he wasn't taking no
for not that they came back up
00:42:50.23\00:42:54.07
to 30 minutes with 32 Bible
study which came out to t to
00:42:54.07\00:43:00.84
the people said we want
to study the Bible with you.
00:43:00.84\00:43:04.28
Well, the young people
came back and enjoy. The older
00:43:04.28\00:43:06.55
people have never
seen anything like this.
00:43:06.55\00:43:08.75
You see this interesting.
There are people there, if you
00:43:08.75\00:43:11.22
would, how to go about finding
him now. And there's lots of
00:43:11.22\00:43:14.12
different methods, of course.
00:43:14.12\00:43:15.82
So we want to continue to keep
of strong emphasis on training.
00:43:15.82\00:43:21.00
We intend to develop the
channel a little bit more.
00:43:21.00\00:43:23.93
And the idea
00:43:23.93\00:43:27.07
is to reach more people
00:43:27.07\00:43:30.31
in more effective ways
than we've ever done before. You
00:43:30.31\00:43:34.41
know, we're going to continue
to be a media evangelism
00:43:34.41\00:43:38.11
ministry. What is your series
of the reformation horror?
00:43:38.11\00:43:41.52
You did all of that. It's
OK if you look at the 500.
00:43:41.52\00:43:44.55
>> 500 that we love that dad is
such an amazing series. And if
00:43:44.55\00:43:49.12
you haven't watched it
500, yeah, it was all filmed on
00:43:49.12\00:43:54.30
location. Record is on location
and it's the type of thing that
00:43:54.30\00:43:58.97
will reach beyond if you've
got friends family that may be
00:43:58.97\00:44:04.74
saying. So I'm not sure if I'm
interested in religion. This is
00:44:04.74\00:44:09.24
world history and
it rings and it's how
00:44:09.24\00:44:14.78
how interwoven the underpinning
of all of this, of course,
00:44:14.78\00:44:18.42
is the gospel. But as you have
a you have a special gift and
00:44:18.42\00:44:22.19
teaching.
00:44:22.19\00:44:23.53
>> This kind of like you
actually, as you're walking
00:44:23.53\00:44:25.46
down the street, you can
actually see you kicking the
00:44:25.46\00:44:27.96
can. You know, you're you come
across, you know, this is who
00:44:27.96\00:44:32.93
you are. Well, you know, if
it did really is is a blessing.
00:44:32.93\00:44:36.74
Well, you know, we love it.
00:44:36.74\00:44:38.17
>> And I love history and I
love out history. It tells you
00:44:38.17\00:44:43.78
out loud that the Bible can
be trusted. We just feel formal
00:44:43.78\00:44:47.42
program. Similar men of faith,
00:44:47.42\00:44:50.19
George Mula like John Bunyan
Men, too about Joe Newton.
00:44:50.19\00:44:55.92
We've go to do one, but we've
got before we left a disguise.
00:44:55.92\00:44:59.66
Got too much going
on. We need to do too
00:44:59.66\00:45:01.86
so into Bristol. When you
lose orphanages, would we want a
00:45:01.86\00:45:04.80
bigfoot with Bunion wrote the
Pilgrim's Progress we went to
00:45:04.80\00:45:07.50
only with Newton was a
posture where we've been down to
00:45:07.50\00:45:11.14
wapping in London where he
lived as a young fella. And
00:45:11.14\00:45:16.34
that's when he went to sea
and eventually became a slave,
00:45:16.34\00:45:20.22
the
00:45:20.22\00:45:21.82
the captain of a slave ship.
00:45:21.82\00:45:23.32
And then you begin that
pollution is done before he
00:45:23.32\00:45:24.75
died. Britain abolished slavery.
00:45:24.75\00:45:28.16
You know, when he wrote Amazing
Grace. How was he wrote that
00:45:28.16\00:45:30.79
song? Amazing Grace. How Sweet
the Sound that saved a wretch
00:45:30.79\00:45:33.40
like me.
00:45:33.40\00:45:35.70
He was not exaggerating.
Yeah. That brother was a rich.
00:45:35.70\00:45:40.34
Look, we're going in this
life mount. Yeah, down. In fact,
00:45:40.34\00:45:43.61
we're going to store and
we want to get to a noun a wee
00:45:43.61\00:45:46.14
little video and this is this
is kind of why we do what we
00:45:46.14\00:45:49.01
do.
00:45:49.01\00:45:51.01
The gentleman day in the you
can tell me if you want to wait
00:45:51.01\00:45:54.15
on this, let's do that. Dave,
Mitt Shana, they had a through
00:45:54.15\00:46:00.22
horses and horse feed and
hay and so forth. They met
00:46:00.22\00:46:03.63
and she said, what do I do
know? And I want to share with
00:46:03.63\00:46:05.99
the sky. She gone. It is
written programs about the
00:46:05.99\00:46:09.56
reformation had gotten
loose. That shouldn't with day.
00:46:09.56\00:46:12.83
He said, wow, this is the real
thing and ultimately his life
00:46:12.83\00:46:18.27
was changed to. Well, it's well
that video now because it is
00:46:18.27\00:46:22.74
incredible.
00:46:22.74\00:46:26.65
>> My friendship with China
began probably 20 plus years
00:46:26.65\00:46:29.52
ago. I don't recall the exact
date here on the farm. We have
00:46:29.52\00:46:33.15
beef cattle. We've always been
self-sufficient in the sense
00:46:33.15\00:46:36.52
that we grow our own
hay for cattle. And Shawna
00:46:36.52\00:46:40.46
made her way here and
asked if we had a tough sell.
00:46:40.46\00:46:43.23
>> I needed hey for my horses.
And I was told this was that
00:46:43.23\00:46:47.50
good farm to go for hay.
00:46:47.50\00:46:49.27
>> Loan a one day she
had got into talking about
00:46:49.27\00:46:53.81
the church and I
started to ask questions.
00:46:53.81\00:46:56.71
>> When COVID happened,
everything just changed.
00:46:56.71\00:47:00.58
Everybody's lives changed.
And there's so much fear.
00:47:00.58\00:47:04.22
And there was so much worry and
we actually just really start
00:47:04.22\00:47:07.59
talking about what was going to
happen, what we thought at the
00:47:07.59\00:47:09.99
end of time.
00:47:09.99\00:47:10.99
>> And she started to
talk about the book of Daniel
00:47:10.99\00:47:15.00
Revelation. We talked a
little bit about that. My
00:47:15.00\00:47:17.30
understanding of
what I what I knew.
00:47:17.30\00:47:19.77
>> And I just remember saying
a little prayer. What can I give
00:47:19.77\00:47:22.54
Dave to share with him? Because
I knew he was a Lucerne and
00:47:22.54\00:47:25.84
have been he's a dollars
and that it was like and I have
00:47:25.84\00:47:29.71
been watching the 500 series.
00:47:29.71\00:47:31.21
>> Rees and then shot introduce
me to 500 series with John
00:47:31.21\00:47:34.92
Bradshaw. And and as I've been
watching that been seeking out
00:47:34.92\00:47:39.55
more and more bizarre to want
to learn more about Christ and
00:47:39.55\00:47:42.86
want to read the Bible are
frequent basis to the point
00:47:42.86\00:47:45.83
where I want to get
in his word every day.
00:47:45.83\00:47:47.93
>> And after a shared the
500 series with him, I found out
00:47:47.93\00:47:51.27
that he had actually Google
John Bradshaw new 2 and was
00:47:51.27\00:47:54.30
watching other ones. And so
he had been watching other John
00:47:54.30\00:47:58.11
Bradshaw. Anything he could
find you, too. And so it was
00:47:58.11\00:48:03.21
really cool because now seeing
him once a week and and just
00:48:03.21\00:48:07.05
seeing this, this fire and that
got started in his heart and
00:48:07.05\00:48:09.98
his and how he was just like
hungry for more and just trying
00:48:09.98\00:48:15.42
to find new things to
share with him is just
00:48:15.42\00:48:18.43
>> a feeling. It's unbelievable
what comes across. You know,
00:48:18.43\00:48:22.56
I I shed tears at
times. It was that
00:48:22.56\00:48:26.17
emotional for me at times.
Just learning more and more
00:48:26.17\00:48:29.54
about what Christ
did for me as my savior.
00:48:29.54\00:48:32.41
>> And he just say, I can't
thank you. I can't thank you
00:48:32.41\00:48:34.88
enough for you for sharing this
with me. And he's like you've
00:48:34.88\00:48:38.95
given me the truth. And he's
like I want to get baptized.
00:48:38.95\00:48:41.48
>> Well, more and more
convicted to, you know, be
00:48:41.48\00:48:45.02
baptized iPhone. Certainly
do that. And John Bradshaw
00:48:45.02\00:48:49.19
inspired me to do that through
through scripture reading.
00:48:49.19\00:48:52.99
>> I told Dave when you comment
charge a probably got cry.
00:48:52.99\00:48:55.86
My eyes when I see you walk
in the church for the first time
00:48:55.86\00:48:59.03
and he came in on January 8 to
be baptized. And to be part of
00:48:59.03\00:49:05.51
that, it was it
was just amazing.
00:49:05.51\00:49:09.41
>> I had this thought that
in order for you to be baptized,
00:49:09.41\00:49:13.08
you needed to be completely
righteous and pure. And I
00:49:13.08\00:49:16.12
learned that the holes for one
or more and help create a new
00:49:16.12\00:49:19.99
person
00:49:19.99\00:49:21.86
as we commit ourselves and
surrender ourselves to Christ.
00:49:21.86\00:49:25.73
>> It's been amazing to see
this from the beginning of Dave
00:49:25.73\00:49:29.40
Story. And then just to
see Dave to go from the sky,
00:49:29.40\00:49:33.30
rough around the edges of
my friends. But to see somebody
00:49:33.30\00:49:36.81
now has just filled with joy
and peace and to know that we
00:49:36.81\00:49:40.81
have all these great resources.
All we have to do is to share
00:49:40.81\00:49:44.25
with somebody just something.
There's something for everybody
00:49:44.25\00:49:47.58
and how it started with the 500
series and for somebody who now
00:49:47.58\00:49:54.19
he goes out of his way to share
Jesus with others and just to
00:49:54.19\00:49:57.59
see the peace and joy and
to be part of that is amazing.
00:49:57.59\00:50:01.73
>> I have peace without all
understanding of comfort in my
00:50:01.73\00:50:07.14
in my heart. I know that he is
with me and he will protect me
00:50:07.14\00:50:11.17
from whatever
00:50:11.17\00:50:12.57
trials and
tribulations that come my way.
00:50:12.57\00:50:14.84
[MUSIC]
00:50:14.84\00:50:19.85
[MUSIC]
00:50:19.85\00:50:22.28
>> Or it doesn't get
any better than to know.
00:50:22.28\00:50:25.49
But he is with me. And that's
something boy, what a win.
00:50:25.49\00:50:28.86
>> And that's why we do what
we do. That's why it is written
00:50:28.86\00:50:30.56
began all those years ago
will defend him in said what an
00:50:30.56\00:50:34.50
evangelist. But if I if I if I
use TV and get a whole lot more
00:50:34.50\00:50:37.97
people to come, that
money does. And you know what?
00:50:37.97\00:50:40.50
We I don't know quite what
to put a down 2. But in the last
00:50:40.50\00:50:43.94
couple of years, more and
more people are coming to our
00:50:43.94\00:50:47.34
evangelist meetings and saying,
I've been watching on TV and
00:50:47.34\00:50:50.78
now I've been watching the
program's more and more so than
00:50:50.78\00:50:53.38
what God has done.
00:50:53.38\00:50:54.92
But it's special. And and
you know that that's why you do
00:50:54.92\00:50:58.72
what you do for them. So those
stories to see people come to
00:50:58.72\00:51:02.12
faith in Christ, which tells
me to one, went to buy hay for
00:51:02.12\00:51:05.96
horse.
00:51:05.96\00:51:07.23
She can go to witness because
Jesus lived in a hot. She's
00:51:07.23\00:51:11.40
always open to those
opportunities to share and she
00:51:11.40\00:51:14.17
prayed about it. How do I reach
this guy? What you did Ole?
00:51:14.17\00:51:18.64
He's a Lutheran. He may
have some interest in the stuff
00:51:18.64\00:51:21.88
about Lutheran Reformation.
So that's what you do. You get
00:51:21.88\00:51:25.31
you pray. What can I reach this
person somehow? Okay. Lets show
00:51:25.31\00:51:29.75
me how because not everybody
is reached the same way
00:51:29.75\00:51:32.59
and low to tell you to
give it to track this person. An
00:51:32.59\00:51:36.42
invitation to that person,
a Bible study, video, whatever
00:51:36.42\00:51:39.86
the case might be made. So
they're waiting to be reached.
00:51:39.86\00:51:43.40
>> So you can see the series
on 3 a B in or if you want,
00:51:43.40\00:51:48.00
you can go to. I gave
the address wrong while ago.
00:51:48.00\00:51:51.61
The I W Dot Org is for
00:51:51.61\00:51:55.78
ministry email info at I I W
Dot Org but the website if you
00:51:55.78\00:52:03.32
want to go and watch him at
their website is it is rich not
00:52:03.32\00:52:08.72
dot TV to any any simpler
than that. It is written dot TV.
00:52:08.72\00:52:14.83
Yeah, a little is
good as any. I mean.
00:52:14.83\00:52:16.80
>> To give us an edge to
keep us busy and ministry is not
00:52:16.80\00:52:20.10
because he didn't pick me
from among the good Angels tuna,
00:52:20.10\00:52:25.07
but you have an opportunity
to to to stand in front of one
00:52:25.07\00:52:28.11
person
00:52:28.11\00:52:29.28
our 1000 persons and say there
is a God loves you. Jesus died
00:52:29.28\00:52:33.11
to be sins and you have a
future in a place in the heart
00:52:33.11\00:52:35.55
of God. And though it's
been, you know what, the port
00:52:35.55\00:52:40.26
2 could go back.
00:52:40.26\00:52:42.26
>> It doesn't take brain
surgery because the one thing
00:52:42.26\00:52:44.69
that I certainly have learned,
he's got eyes to hear been
00:52:44.69\00:52:47.46
God's got eyes to here. And
here's to hear. And he knows
00:52:47.46\00:52:51.13
where you are and
what time that you're so
00:52:51.13\00:52:54.50
I guess super not was a
great word. Yeah, supernatural.
00:52:54.50\00:52:57.94
He's going to us issue and
putting the props and place
00:52:57.94\00:53:02.54
so that it just comes.
It just comes out of you.
00:53:02.54\00:53:06.11
>> Yes, you want a lot of
people don't realize is that
00:53:06.11\00:53:08.48
God doesn't ask us to plant has
seen in ground that has nothing
00:53:08.48\00:53:12.45
to do that. Yeah. And he's
at work and and is preparing
00:53:12.45\00:53:17.09
people that they're different
stages on the continuum.
00:53:17.09\00:53:19.83
But he's preparing people
so that when you come along,
00:53:19.83\00:53:23.43
you don't have to convert them.
00:53:23.43\00:53:25.77
The spirit of God moved people.
But if you can, should the
00:53:25.77\00:53:29.00
would all hand
the book goal point?
00:53:29.00\00:53:31.74
>> In this shouldn't direction
or encouraging some way.
00:53:31.74\00:53:34.71
What you're doing is building
on the foundation out that
00:53:34.71\00:53:38.25
Jesus has already put down his
as long as you're doing this in
00:53:38.25\00:53:42.48
a loving it way. And Jan
told you don't try to go in. And
00:53:42.48\00:53:47.52
just we had a neighbor who
could he said I can't believe
00:53:47.52\00:53:51.43
their 7th day Adventists
because his only experience was
00:53:51.43\00:53:54.73
an Adventist with someone
had walked into his business in
00:53:54.73\00:53:58.40
said.
00:53:58.40\00:53:59.57
>> You're going straight, you
know where? Because you go to
00:53:59.57\00:54:02.50
church Aho. Yeah, so.
00:54:02.50\00:54:05.41
>> You know, that kind of
leads. And that comment is set
00:54:05.41\00:54:08.78
in place. We only have a couple
minutes in this hour, but we've
00:54:08.78\00:54:12.45
been teasing this. I'm telling
you what we're going to do.
00:54:12.45\00:54:16.42
Why did you choose the topic
for tonight? Balance finding
00:54:16.42\00:54:22.52
God's path in the world of
extremes. Why do people want to
00:54:22.52\00:54:26.56
stay tuned in for
the second tower, OK?
00:54:26.56\00:54:29.46
>> So, yes, my question to
have to eat you honestly. Yeah,
00:54:29.46\00:54:32.53
I guess I didn't have to,
00:54:32.53\00:54:34.30
but but I would choose to.
But what why did I choose the
00:54:34.30\00:54:37.67
subject?
00:54:37.67\00:54:38.91
Because I see so little of it.
00:54:38.91\00:54:42.41
And I see such a lack of
balance. It's really easy for
00:54:42.41\00:54:47.05
people to get
out on the extremes.
00:54:47.05\00:54:49.15
No, I'm not saying, oh, don't
go to file a don't go too far
00:54:49.15\00:54:54.26
with Jesus. You can't go far
enough. And we're going to talk
00:54:54.26\00:54:56.73
about that. He asks us to be.
00:54:56.73\00:54:58.76
>> All in all in.
00:54:58.76\00:55:02.00
>> But there are so many places
that we can become extremely
00:55:02.00\00:55:04.77
can become extreme in our diet.
We can become extreme in out
00:55:04.77\00:55:10.07
will ship. We can
become extreme in out politics.
00:55:10.07\00:55:13.91
We can become extreme when I
say we can people do in the way
00:55:13.91\00:55:17.88
we criticize, we can become
extreme and I disagree in the
00:55:17.88\00:55:22.48
way we choose to
agree or disagree.
00:55:22.48\00:55:26.09
Why did COVID
in so many churches
00:55:26.09\00:55:29.12
tune into a dumpster fire?
It's because I didn't have the
00:55:29.12\00:55:33.03
ability to say to you, I
respect your position and you
00:55:33.03\00:55:37.00
have the ability to say to
me, I respect your position.
00:55:37.00\00:55:40.04
We dug our heels in and
wanted to be the only right one.
00:55:40.04\00:55:45.34
Alternately doesn't matter
who's right? What matters most.
00:55:45.34\00:55:48.44
You do what you want to
do. We respect respect that.
00:55:48.44\00:55:51.61
But you got to be right
00:55:51.61\00:55:53.55
being right. Speaks a lot more
loudly. And clearly, I mean,
00:55:53.55\00:55:57.85
what a second I'm saying
what I mean to say, but I'm
00:55:57.85\00:56:00.59
contradicting myself being
of the right spirit. Amen being
00:56:00.59\00:56:05.29
right with God being the right
kind of person. That's what
00:56:05.29\00:56:09.56
speaks to people that a quick
story. I know we have a little
00:56:09.56\00:56:12.50
bit time, but the short story
just in England recently with
00:56:12.50\00:56:16.20
some friends in Wolverhampton,
just a great place, great
00:56:16.20\00:56:18.54
people.
00:56:18.54\00:56:20.04
They told me a story.
00:56:20.04\00:56:21.54
The students in the Bible
school that had running at the
00:56:21.54\00:56:24.41
time were meeting people in
the community, the middleman and
00:56:24.41\00:56:27.22
salmon and saying that nothing
much to do with the Bible and
00:56:27.22\00:56:31.19
didn't want to. But he like
these young people and they got
00:56:31.19\00:56:34.42
to know him and show
you study the Bible, but
00:56:34.42\00:56:36.93
is grass was along,
00:56:36.93\00:56:39.09
looked like it never got
county. They should. We cut
00:56:39.09\00:56:41.00
your grass. And
00:56:41.00\00:56:43.77
the task was kind of rescue
me somewhat done. And if we help
00:56:43.77\00:56:46.94
you around the house looks
like you need. Absolutely no.
00:56:46.94\00:56:49.67
Later his son said, dad,
what you have nothing to do with
00:56:49.67\00:56:52.41
these people
00:56:52.41\00:56:53.81
and sand said, listen, son
00:56:53.81\00:56:56.11
in 41 years,
you've never cut my grass
00:56:56.11\00:56:58.85
and 41 years. You've never
help me around the house. These
00:56:58.85\00:57:01.85
people have demonstrated
what they really like and then I
00:57:01.85\00:57:05.32
will continue to mix with them
and I'll follow God alongside
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and see what spoke with people
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being of the right spirit, not
the right to you that you got
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to win high.
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>> You know the name. And so
we want to thank you for this
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first hours from listening
to thank your story and exciting
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to hear what it is written
a stirring. But we want to
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encourage you. Stay tuned.
As we look at balance, how do
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we find God's path in a world
of extreme swell seen just on
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the other side
of this pretty great
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