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>> Welcome back to our 2 hours.
Sitting together 3ABN today
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live ours. Special guest
family member really tonight is
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Antoinette. 48. She is
the principle of keeping doula
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agricultural training center,
which is one of their schools
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there at capable of farms.
And we've been talking tonight
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about I am not qualified woman
in leadership. This program is
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for woman who, you know, and
I believe that every woman is a
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leader. You don't have to be
the leader of a corporation or
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company. You don't have to
be a principal. I'm at a school
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where leaders in our home
with our children or mentoring
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younger woman in the church
or in the community. So so many
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aspects, so many spheres of
influence and really a leader
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is just someone with influence
with other people in. So we're
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talking about
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what that journey has looks
like in antoinette's life and
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what that journey can look like
in your life and in my life.
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And if you're a man,
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God gives you influence to
in God calls you to leadership,
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that might not look the same as
the journey we're talking about
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tonight. But I think the
principles we're talking about
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our biblical principles that
we can chair and that we can in
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cocaine and use and growing it.
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So let's talk about we
have some more stories and more
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things coming up. But let's
talk about that preparation for
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leadership.
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I'm thinking back. I don't know
what you would share, but you
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shared at the beginning a
little bit of your testimony on
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that call of God on your life
at the age of 19, almost like
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Abraham going out that called
emissions service. So there was
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that surrender. All of that in
your childhood was preparation
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for what you do today. But
let's talk about some more of
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that and what was your
preparation for what you do?
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>> Yeah, it's interesting when
you look back and you realize
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like, wow, even the bullying at
school has had a small part in
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making me who I am today
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to not run away so quickly
when that happens again or
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I'm like I said, you know, I
think it's a personal walk with
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the Lord. He's given us
different personalities.
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And like you said, we are
leaders in different spheres.
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But when it comes to
leadership of a group of people,
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especially cross culturally,
for sure, there are certain
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personalities that would
do better in that position and
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others. So I did a
personality test that was quite
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professional and
comprehensive a few years ago.
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And it was actually
discouraging to me because I
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scored on the opposite ends of
where I was supposed to be for
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someone who's in
leadership and I am.
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>> And I was like the
Lord. What are you doing?
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>> But it's interesting.
It's the same for my husband
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and his leadership role.
He's director of the mission,
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but he's also CEO of our
export company for avocados.
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And his scores also indicated
that he would much rather
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thrive on a tractor doing the
actual farm work, then lead a
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team.
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So what do you do when you are
not fitting all the stereotypes
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or the specifications needed
for leadership? And that's
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again, when you need to let
go and trust in the Lord. And I
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think personal preparation is
that day to day sitting at the
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feet of Jesus, because
that is what helps prepares us.
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So
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I want to reach out to young
ladies, ladies who are at home
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raising children.
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You may feel like I did.
That's what I'm doing is not as
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important as what
my husband is doing
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and it's not about importance.
And I don't think there's room
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for competition in the
Marriott. It's not healthy.
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But I think ladies can
be tempted to feel like what
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they're doing is not notice.
It's not appreciated everything
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they could that in the days.
And and by the time the husband
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comes back home in the evening.
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Well, the husband is out there
may be doing ministry or were
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feeling
productive, feeling fulfilled.
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And I remember struggling with
that. Also as a young woman in
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the mission failed.
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But I always would go back
to the word. I always go back to
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the spirit of prophecy, which
was a great comfort in my heart
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because the lawyer has a lot
to say to young woman that being
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at home at that phase that
season of your life raising
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your little children to love
and serve. An allergy says that
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work. Is this exalted us the
work of the king on his throne
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as the work of Gabriel by the
side of Jesus, Ellen White's s
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and that always comforted me
that when I'm doing the dishes,
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cooking another meal or running
to make another deadline so
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that people can be comfortable.
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All of that service costing us
something to ourselves is what
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prepares us for leadership that
came from Elaine, turn my life.
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So don't think that these
little things are not valuable,
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that they're not notice the
Lord notices. And if there's a
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has been listening
to me this evening,
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the big biggest thing you
can do to keep your life and
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courage just to encourage her
to appreciate what she's doing.
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Tell her how much she need
her because I believe spend
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receives his motivation,
his strength to leave the home
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every day to go. A minister
when the home is peaceful in
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the home is happy when the
home a strong. And so ladies,
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don't underestimate what you're
doing for the Lord in your home
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at this season in your life
because God is preparing you
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not just for what you need to
do now, but he's preparing your
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children and you can never
come to the end of your life and
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say, Lord, I didn't do anything
for you if your children are
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loving the Lord
and maybe serving him.
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>> That's beautiful. Thank
you so much for that. I put down
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spend time in the works and do
what is right in front of you.
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What other people might seem is
an important or sometimes even
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we ourselves look at
that all this is an important.
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But yet God sees that and
God knows it's an important love
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that that's beautiful. You
referenced there's no room for
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competition in a marriage and
that role. Let's talk a little
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bit about working together
in marriage in in leadership
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because your husband is a
leader overall leader of Cuba
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to farms while your leader
of the agriculture training,
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if I have that right, so you're
working together. So this is
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you came before, of course,
your mom and your wife and
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your. He's head of the
household. But now you're
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working together is Co labor's
co-workers. So talk to us about
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that journey.
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>> Yes, that's been a little
bit tough to be honest with
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you, because I am naturally
more passionate time, more
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outspoken and opinionated.
And he know when we have our
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personal conversations at home,
he understands and we can just
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talk openly. But when we're
in a committee meeting together,
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you know, I'm not just his wife
anymore, but I'm now his his
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colleague and I run large,
busy department and I have my
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opinions. I have my and so to
rein myself. And I don't think
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I well, it was a struggle.
Do rein myself in completely
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not have an opinion so
he can still be the head or
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Kim. The Lord help me to not be
so strong that I am undermining
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him or maybe
disrespecting him in public.
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So it's a balance. And
again, it comes with experience.
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She get to know and talk to
each other, but also pray about
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it. The Lord is teaching and
he does healthy it to sense the
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mood sense to what you could
should and how you should say
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it.
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But it's very interesting.
And so I think it's very
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important that couples realize
when they're working together
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side by side that they
are a team, they're not in
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competition with each other and
you don't have to force their
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will on the other
person. When you can
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hear each other
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and be willing to say I'm
sorry as well when you have
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overstepped that boundary and
I think it goes a long ways to
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healthy to reconcile and
to be stronger together. Yeah,
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not everyone is in a position
where we work side by side with
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her husband. But if you are,
they can be joyful. But yeah,
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there are things we
need to be aware of.
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>> He's a personal question
because Greg and I have that
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precious experience for we get
that were married, of course,
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has been a wife. But we work
together. We're in a lot of the
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same meetings. We come together
when making decisions. And so
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there's that I'm learning how
to do that process. It totally
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understand that. And actually
here at reviewed, we have a lot
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of families. So we have a
lot of husbands and wives who
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worked together in
ministry, sometimes in the same
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department many times in
different departments, but
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still working together, which
is I think the privilege of
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being able to do ministry
with your best friend is just
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amazing. But yet, as he said,
there's times where we have to
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ask forgiveness or learn how
to navigate that one question I
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would have is
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how do you or maybe you don't?
I don't know. How do you do
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with taking ministry home?
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In other words, you and your
husband both do ministry all
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day at work. But then
your bringing that or maybe you
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don't do bring that home like
they have a burden network or
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something you're dealing with
now, you're going to bed and
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are you still carrying the same
burdens or how do you handle
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that? Because it's like
you never get away from that.
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It's at work and it's a home.
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>> And I think that's a
very unique challenge that we do
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have when our ministry,
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we do have a 95 job. Our
ministry is our life. And so it
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becomes very difficult to have
those boundaries. And I think
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precious ministries like
restoration international that
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teach couples how to half
that us time and think about us,
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not me or you. I
think it's very valuable.
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But now it's true. We do carry
that so much with us. And when
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we're home, we talk a lot.
I'm when I'm at home. I share
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with the girls Santa. What's
been happening in my daily use.
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Examples of what's happening
at the school is learning
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opportunities for them as well
to pro since with mom and that.
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So our children learn from
us how we deal with things and
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things that are private.
It's, you know, my husband and
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I will talk to ourselves.
But then, yes, we do need to
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learn to put some things away
and say, you know what, we have
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to now put that to the side
a little bit and focus on just
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being a family and it's going
to be different for families to
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families are different.
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But now I hear what
you're saying. It's windy. Leave
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ministry behind. What's your
identity is? It's always just
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Jason Antoinette,
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key dual out or is there a
time when we can put that to the
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side a little bit and just
focus on just being a family
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man and taught you mention the
word identity. Let's talk about
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identity. How do you find
your identity as a woman as a
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leader?
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I've struggled with that
through the years because I
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left between worlds and I serve
with its that mean I serve the
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poorest of the poor. But I also
have the very wealthy come to
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my home.
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And so, you know, who am I
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when I come to the very poor,
you know, I can look like a
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very wealthy because
comparatively, I am very
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wealthy. Well to do like
it looks like I don't have any
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needs. Life is easy. How do I
relate to that person and give
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them hope that what I'm going
through the large, his faithful
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to me is
faithful to them as well.
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But then I have the very
rich come to my home as well.
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And I struggle to relate to
them because I don't know what
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shopping in Dubai is like.
And how can God use a little
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humble me and my little home to
minister to them. So it can be
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a struggle sometimes to know
who am I had to a fit and how
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to address how do I do my hair?
How do I relate to both worlds
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where I'm not overdone or
underdone? But I think when the
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focus is a little bit less
on our south and on Jesus, yeah,
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I think we can be free to
be who he's making us to be
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without feeling like I have
to conform to look a certain way
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in this situation and look
a certain Winona the situation
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because then we kind of have
a split identity and I don't
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think that's healthy at all.
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Another thing I think that
complicates things is social
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media.
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I would like to speak about
that a little bit. They cause
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there's so much pressure today
on young ladies, especially to
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look a certain way to live a
certain lifestyle. And I think
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we need to be free in Jesus
Christ to pursue. He has made
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us to be to fulfill the
goals that he has for us. Social
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media is a blessing, especially
in the important mission Field
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where you can stay in
touch with friends and family.
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But I'm I'm a little bit
concerned when I realized how
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much time people
spend on their devices
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and when a young woman,
especially is just infused
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constantly with what to expect
patients are, and it may not be
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exactly what he says is
expecting a fire and there's
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going to be a tremendous battle.
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And I made a decision early on
in my married life to step away
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from social media. In the
beginning, it was Facebook and
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I'm not saying we have to give
up on social media. But for me
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in my situation, especially
when I went through periods of
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loneliness with one click, I
could be connected and I could
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see what everyone is doing all
the time. And I was spending so
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much time on Facebook that
it was taking away from my home
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from my ministry. And I had
to make a decision to stop and
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step away from that. And
I'm not sorry I did because that
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freed me up to start looking
around the world that's around
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me to observe, to learn and
to be available and we were not
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available. It
becomes difficult to minister
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so identity. Who am I
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loved by my creator. I was
given a future and I hope I'm
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not perfect. I make mistakes.
But he has given me a beautiful
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life. It's not free of trial
or difficulties. But and look at
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my children. I look at my
husband. I look at the little
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girl that I was able to close
and feed and they left and is
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under a tarp.
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They do have a home.
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I have never had joy like I
did that day when I went to shop
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for her things that I you know,
it never pay money for for my
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own children. At that moment,
it was my greatest joy to buy
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that little pair
foods for that little girl.
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And when I put it on her feet,
she was so happy and she ran to
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show her mom.
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And so just being available to
see the little things. I think
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we need to be careful. Social
media can. Rob us of that?
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You mentioned
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perspective. I don't know
if that was the word used, but
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>> so many people have an
outside perspective of who we
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are. So if we get our identity
from Jesus, right, that's where
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we get our identity. Go
back to the word of God.
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The word says who you are
in Christ and if we get that in
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him, not social
media, not these other areas,
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but oftentimes we
might seek validation from
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it depends on your position.
Maybe you've seen foundation
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from the board of directors.
Few answer to that more you
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seek validation from your boss
or a validation from the pastor
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of the church or even
validation from your friends or
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acquaintances.
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How do we
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pull away from that external
validation and just to tease us
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for validation? And is there
a place maybe that we do need
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external validation?
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>> I think is leaders. That's
one thing we have to learn as
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our staff. Our team
needs validation. They need
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appreciation because your team
without you remembering their
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contribution, they burn
out on you pretty quickly.
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Validation is very important to
know that we are still needed,
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that we are still contributing.
But if it doesn't come, then
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are we just going to give up?
Are we just going to walk away
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from what the Lord
is asking us to do?
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So I would say Martin Luther
is an example who stood without
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validation before world
of leaders Kings potentates.
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And in that moment, the only
validation that he had was the
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word was Christ was the holy
spirit and he was able to stand
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through the strength that
Christ gave him in that moment
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when he had to stand alone.
And I think sometimes it's
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leaders, leadership is a
little bit of a lonely position.
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It is.
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There's not a lot of people
that share that responsibility
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where the buck stops, if I
can put it like that. So while
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leadership is a privilege
and it has advantages that come
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with that of a broader
horizon for more opportunities,
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leadership is also a lonely
position and so validation
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while it is important to cannot
be the thing that motivates you
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cannot be the
thing that you depend on.
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Because when it's not
there, then why'd he do?
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>> No, that's so important.
Remember when Greg and I
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stepped into the leadership,
someone in a us I came up and
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said,
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I'm sorry, and I thought that's
not what you normally say.
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You would say, well,
I'm praying for you or
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congratulations or something,
right. And they said and then
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they quantified it and they
said you're going to find it's
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very lonely. And I thought,
what are they talking about?
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You know, we still work
with the same people. What a
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tremendous privilege and a
blessing to be part of a teen
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to be sharing the gospel.
But leadership can be lonely.
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Can see not able to share
all that as you mentioned.
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Absolutely. I love what
you said. I wrote down, give
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validation,
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but don't expect it
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like Martin Luther being
willing to able to stand for
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principle. So let's talk
for just a moment. Couple more
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stories, maybe thinking of
you daughter. We've been talking
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about your family and time when
she was really sick. Can this
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Gehring us up for that being
in a foreign country that place
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where you can get the help that
you would expect maybe here in
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states?
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>> So again, you know, we're
all so different and we all
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have different walks to
friend levels of ability and
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advantages and opportunities.
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So for us as a family, we have
not had medical insurance just
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because we have not really
received a salary and all these
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years of ministry. So medical
insurance is not something that
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we can afford.
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And so I remember working in
early years with other families
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who could afford it and would
insist on it. And I just made a
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decision early on in my life
that if the Lord is asking you
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to do something in these
blessing, you and your able
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then use your common
sense and do it. But if you can,
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the Lord is not going to
forsake you. And so that became
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very personal to me. When my
daughter started experiencing
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anaphylactic shock, she's
very allergic to bee stings. And
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for us living on a farm in
Africa, there's a lot of bees
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and they love our home. So
every year we have an invasion
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where we can really move around
in the home because they're
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everywhere in the windows,
on the floor, on the big hits,
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on the carpets everywhere.
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And so we have to wait until
evening time until they settle
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down and calm down, then
we can start removing them.
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So we have never dealt
with anything like it where not
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medically trained.
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So when she was stung a few
years ago, the first time and
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she had a reaction,
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I could see it was going
bad really quickly. She was
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completely swollen up
with hives everywhere getting
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uncontrollably. Her nose
was completely swollen, shot.
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Her 8 years are big, like
cabbages. All eyes were social,
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swollen shut.
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All we had was a few little
antihistamine tablets and a
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little bit of
expired. Benadryl, I'm Sarah.
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The lawyer pulled or through.
He kept her throat open all
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night week after drinking
and sipping water must have been
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terrifying as a mom and we had
concerned family on the other
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side coaching us. They are
medically trained, but they're
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on the other side of the world
and they're like, why are you
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not on the way to the hospital
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and how do we explain to
them how far the hospital is and
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what inadequate care there
can sometimes be in the small
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settings.
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And so you risk being looked
at as an irresponsible parents
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and some of these things.
He can't explain to people.
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But, you know, this is a
situation that you're in right
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now and all you can do is cry
out to God to help you. And he
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did. He pull her through.
And I'm very thankful for a
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very loving friends and family
who supplied it immediately
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with epi pens and at the net
friend and IV bags and things
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and 3 years managed to go
by and she was fine. She was
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careful, but he was fine.
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And then just a few short weeks
ago, she was stunned again in
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the kitchen while she was
making lunch for us on her
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chest.
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And the same thing happened
except this time it was horse
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and
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the first at the Pan Shot
didn't do much. And we had to
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follow up with the
second one. When she fainted in
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her blood pressure
was dropping very fast and
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we tried inserting IVs, but
the needles were to begin her
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little things that constricted
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very thankful for caring
neighbors who are there on
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monitoring her oxygen. And
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and I remember this crying out
to the Lord and and that moment
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you are tempted
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to question the Lord. Yeah.
Why? Why do I have to be here?
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Why this house that the bees
love so much? What if I lose
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her? What will I do
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now? I know that the Lord
is good and he did pull her
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through life. Pace him for that.
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But they are missionary
friends that half lost children.
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Yeah, to malaria.
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Accidents
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is got still as good as he
was before that happened. Is he
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still compassionate?
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And I think they will answer
us today and say, you know what,
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it was the hardest thing,
the most tragic thing that we've
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ever had to go through. But we
know our God. We know he is as
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good today as
he was before that.
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And so we did
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see how she pulled through
got saved her again. But the
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temptations that come to me
in that moment, Laura, can't we
00:22:38.55\00:22:41.02
just go somewhere where
my child can be safe? Fun.
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And so here's a challenge to
people as well, especially in
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foreign said things is you
do whatever you can. We have
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screens in front of the
windows. The we tried to steal
00:22:51.63\00:22:54.77
the old Rufus much as we can.
00:22:54.77\00:22:57.51
But when would
would do it? Do you do
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when you don't have
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the facility is closed by
for the help that you need
00:23:02.28\00:23:06.05
you? Do you walk
away from the mission
00:23:06.05\00:23:08.68
or do you continue? And we have
chosen to continue and I cannot
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tell anyone what to do. It's
between them and God. And it's
00:23:12.59\00:23:15.62
very personal, but I can
testify that God is faithful
00:23:15.62\00:23:19.53
and that he is helping us.
00:23:19.53\00:23:21.66
And I pray that I will still be
faithful. Should something more
00:23:21.66\00:23:24.93
serious happened later on?
And I I don't want to try and
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predict anything because God
doesn't deal with us like our
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fears deal with us. We try
him for office. I things but God
00:23:30.74\00:23:34.44
doesn't work like that. And
so I just pray that God king,
00:23:34.44\00:23:38.15
help us learn from these past
experiences to build our faith
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for the future.
That's powerful testimony.
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>> I know you said that you
can't tell other people clearly
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because everyone has to pray
each family with them and God.
00:23:48.59\00:23:52.13
But how if you can share any
of the things that lead you in
00:23:52.13\00:23:56.03
your family took the decision?
Yes, we want to say here,
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yes, even though there is a
risk and would do everything we
00:23:58.77\00:24:01.34
can to protect like you through
the screens and on the windows
00:24:01.34\00:24:04.47
and other things. But how did
you know, I guess in your heart
00:24:04.47\00:24:08.28
it was the right decision
for your family to stay.
00:24:08.28\00:24:11.48
>> So early on in my life when
I have been praying to be used
00:24:11.48\00:24:15.65
by God, God didn't
answer me right away.
00:24:15.65\00:24:19.25
And I think got often works
like that. He's not going to
00:24:19.25\00:24:21.72
tell you ahead of time at a
certain time. I want you to go
00:24:21.72\00:24:25.03
here and I want you
to do this kind of work.
00:24:25.03\00:24:27.76
God usually comes through at
the last minute, any open some
00:24:27.76\00:24:32.03
very specific door for you
to walk through. And I think
00:24:32.03\00:24:34.77
there's a purpose for that.
00:24:34.77\00:24:36.60
That is so that, you
know, you did not fabricate this
00:24:36.60\00:24:39.51
yourself.
00:24:39.51\00:24:41.24
God did. And this is where
God wants you to be so that when
00:24:41.24\00:24:44.65
those tough times come, you
are reminded, oh, I didn't put
00:24:44.65\00:24:48.52
myself here. God brought me
here, got cut me this calling.
00:24:48.52\00:24:52.95
And the word tells us that he
takes responsibility for that.
00:24:52.95\00:24:55.82
Cost them a
proper safety for our
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while being to
provide for our needs.
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The kids into everyone's
experience comes those tough
00:25:01.63\00:25:04.27
times when you I down and you
are maybe feeling burnt out and
00:25:04.27\00:25:08.64
then they thought,
OK, God brought me here
00:25:08.64\00:25:12.24
and he has since
entered the placement.
00:25:12.24\00:25:15.31
Do I just walk away and
the work and potentially suffer
00:25:15.31\00:25:19.41
or am I going to be faithful
in my post? But I'm going to
00:25:19.41\00:25:22.12
humble myself. I'm going to
take time to pray harder than I
00:25:22.12\00:25:25.52
prayed before. And my
experience has been. He pulls
00:25:25.52\00:25:29.09
you out of that again.
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You don't stay in that valley.
You come out and you come out
00:25:30.99\00:25:34.10
stronger because
you learn things.
00:25:34.10\00:25:36.87
And you've learned, especially
that he's faithful. I believe
00:25:36.87\00:25:40.94
that if God
wants you to move on,
00:25:40.94\00:25:43.57
Callaway says that
00:25:43.57\00:25:45.11
if got sees that for your
personal growth, it's time for
00:25:45.11\00:25:48.31
you to move on. He will set
things to start happening to
00:25:48.31\00:25:51.88
release you and to move
you on. And I think that's very
00:25:51.88\00:25:54.92
important that we stay faithful
to our commitment that we stay
00:25:54.92\00:25:58.42
faithful to the work that he's
given us to do and then watch
00:25:58.42\00:26:01.49
Providence through his
providence. He will indicate to
00:26:01.49\00:26:04.53
us whether it's time to move
on or if it's still time to hang
00:26:04.53\00:26:07.76
in there, pray more and seek to
learn what we need to learn in
00:26:07.76\00:26:11.90
the situation.
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>> A man just taking notes
here. So what you're I wrote
00:26:14.30\00:26:17.91
down the word, the word
burnout, as you were talking
00:26:17.91\00:26:20.81
there, talk to us just a
bit about burnout in leadership.
00:26:20.81\00:26:23.95
And I think that might be even
more common, maybe in ministry
00:26:23.95\00:26:27.58
leadership because maybe in
the public's sector, maybe not
00:26:27.58\00:26:31.02
necessarily the sometimes we
have more parameters in place.
00:26:31.02\00:26:34.16
But the ministry sometimes are
expected to be 24 7 on. So talk
00:26:34.16\00:26:37.93
to us about that.
00:26:37.93\00:26:39.09
>> So something that my husband
and I have learned over the
00:26:39.09\00:26:41.33
many years that we've been
there. I mean, my husband's
00:26:41.33\00:26:43.50
been there, 31 years now,
I've been there. 22 years.
00:26:43.50\00:26:47.34
He's said to have to
pace yourself leadership team.
00:26:47.34\00:26:50.34
And so if you to be on
Kobe on everyone else's McCall
00:26:50.34\00:26:57.25
and yet you need to
know your boundaries as well.
00:26:57.25\00:27:00.88
Someone who gives
cans gives and burns out
00:27:00.88\00:27:05.55
cannot necessarily fulfill all
that got one of them to if they
00:27:05.55\00:27:10.13
have been a little bit more in
tune with where they are right
00:27:10.13\00:27:13.93
now and when they
need to take a break,
00:27:13.93\00:27:16.50
James, like this, an example
that comes to my mind games
00:27:16.50\00:27:19.57
like this. One of those people
that burned out completely,
00:27:19.57\00:27:22.24
he did and we are all called
to give all and burnout for God,
00:27:22.24\00:27:26.01
but not in the burnout.
The sense that we bring on our
00:27:26.01\00:27:28.84
south sometimes because we have
never learn to delegate because
00:27:28.84\00:27:32.51
we have never learned that it's
OK to go home at the end of the
00:27:32.51\00:27:36.22
day and call it a day because
tomorrow will be there again
00:27:36.22\00:27:39.79
and work ups. Yes, I think
wisdom comes with experience,
00:27:39.79\00:27:45.93
but I do see some of our
young people, especially who are
00:27:45.93\00:27:48.86
still new
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and they are so driven and
bless their hearts to God needs
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people who are
driven and committed.
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But I think we just need to be
careful also that we take that
00:27:56.27\00:27:59.11
time to be with him,
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because that's where our
strength comes from. And then
00:28:01.58\00:28:04.68
to make sure that we have
time for our family because the
00:28:04.68\00:28:07.82
family unit needs to be strong
and healthy for the ministry to
00:28:07.82\00:28:11.02
be healthy. And I think
when those 2 things are healthy
00:28:11.02\00:28:14.89
and it will take care of
ministry, whether it's long
00:28:14.89\00:28:17.76
hours are not so long.
00:28:17.76\00:28:20.20
>> And this kid, what about?
And we'll go back to another
00:28:20.20\00:28:22.56
story in a moment here.
But what about someone who's
00:28:22.56\00:28:25.07
saying? My husband feels called
and commission service for
00:28:25.07\00:28:29.04
mission work, but I'm not sure
that's the calling on my life.
00:28:29.04\00:28:33.34
What would you say? How
did you navigate those waters?
00:28:33.34\00:28:37.05
>> Yes, that's a tough one.
I remember talking to a lady
00:28:37.05\00:28:39.71
ones. Her husband filed call
to go do mission work overseas
00:28:39.71\00:28:44.59
and she had no desire. She had
no burden on her heart and she
00:28:44.59\00:28:49.52
was talking to me. She's
like, what do I do? Do I just a
00:28:49.52\00:28:51.99
minute
00:28:51.99\00:28:53.66
now it's wise. We are
asked to submit in a healthy way
00:28:53.66\00:28:56.77
submission to a loving
husband who is wise in the Lord,
00:28:56.77\00:29:00.17
someone who is trying to guide
and leave his family as the
00:29:00.17\00:29:03.51
Lord is leading.
00:29:03.51\00:29:05.87
And yet I caution women also to
not have a blind submission but
00:29:05.87\00:29:11.28
uninformed submission based on
their faith and a walk with the
00:29:11.28\00:29:15.35
Lord.
00:29:15.35\00:29:16.52
What I'm trying to say is I
believe God calls, not just the
00:29:16.52\00:29:19.79
husband necessarily but a
family. And if the husband is
00:29:19.79\00:29:23.53
why I stand, he's going to
realize that it's the family
00:29:23.53\00:29:26.73
behind him that empowers
him from ministry as well. So I
00:29:26.73\00:29:30.87
would advise a wife to talk
openly with her husband into
00:29:30.87\00:29:34.64
asset. They per maybe put aside
special seasons of fasting and
00:29:34.64\00:29:39.54
praying and studying the word,
the testimonies to see what
00:29:39.54\00:29:44.18
he's got asking the husband
to do and how the wife can help
00:29:44.18\00:29:47.12
him fulfill that mission so
that it's a team effort and not
00:29:47.12\00:29:50.65
him with a family going.
00:29:50.65\00:29:53.52
That would be my first advice.
The second thing is the husband
00:29:53.52\00:29:56.46
needs to realize that a lot
rests on the shoulders of the
00:29:56.46\00:29:59.89
life and it is very important
that she understands her will.
00:29:59.89\00:30:02.96
She understands what her part
is and that he support her as
00:30:02.96\00:30:06.53
well because she will
support him in ministry.
00:30:06.53\00:30:10.24
I'm reminded of William
Carey, an early missionary
00:30:10.24\00:30:14.24
who left to go to
India and his wife.
00:30:14.24\00:30:17.91
I never felt called to never
felt part. And it was a very
00:30:17.91\00:30:22.05
sad story.
00:30:22.05\00:30:24.79
So I would say
00:30:24.79\00:30:26.69
prayer is very key in
this communication to make sure
00:30:26.69\00:30:30.33
because I believe God last
woman is my to see loves men.
00:30:30.33\00:30:33.33
And again, it's not a
competitive issue at all.
00:30:33.33\00:30:35.90
And I believe God can put
a burden on a woman's heart,
00:30:35.90\00:30:38.53
too, so that together they
are united before they start
00:30:38.53\00:30:42.24
ministry so that they can come
through it together. At the end
00:30:42.24\00:30:45.54
to me ministry is not going
to be your whole life forever,
00:30:45.54\00:30:48.51
right? You need to come out
the other and hold intact life
00:30:48.51\00:30:52.55
after that chapter. And so
I think start together well,
00:30:52.55\00:30:56.42
in the beginning, go through it
together. There's going to be a
00:30:56.42\00:30:58.89
lot of talk in war to pull you
apart, but to come out together
00:30:58.89\00:31:02.66
at the other end as
well. I love that. You know,
00:31:02.66\00:31:05.36
sometimes I was thinking
that I kind of laughed because,
00:31:05.36\00:31:07.76
you know, sometimes families.
00:31:07.76\00:31:09.23
>> Unfortunately, though,
they'll have their children and
00:31:09.23\00:31:11.63
they grow up and they go off to
college and the parents become
00:31:11.63\00:31:14.94
empty nesters and they look
at each other and say, who are
00:31:14.94\00:31:17.77
you? Well, how do we grow apart
these years? So the same thing
00:31:17.77\00:31:22.34
with ministry. It can be, you
know, being in fall together.
00:31:22.34\00:31:26.31
You don't want to come out
on the other side and be who are
00:31:26.31\00:31:28.82
you and who did I marry and you
want to grow to get there and
00:31:28.82\00:31:32.79
minister together and do that.
United Leanne grow stronger.
00:31:32.79\00:31:36.86
And then at the other end, your
marriage is so much stronger,
00:31:36.86\00:31:39.53
so powerful.
00:31:39.53\00:31:40.56
>> And we're not immune
to marriage issues. You know,
00:31:40.56\00:31:45.13
there's a lot that pulls on
us and takes us away from each
00:31:45.13\00:31:48.47
other so that we are so
busy that we can come together.
00:31:48.47\00:31:51.91
So it's a constant battle to
make time to prioritize and to
00:31:51.91\00:31:55.78
say, you know what, from
Rye union from our home comes
00:31:55.78\00:31:59.48
ministry and not
the other way around.
00:31:59.48\00:32:02.12
And so we need to make time
to come together again to be
00:32:02.12\00:32:05.29
united. And I think a
husband and a wife that can pray
00:32:05.29\00:32:07.69
together the cast. You know how
the old word go sleep. You get
00:32:07.69\00:32:11.59
when they prayed together, they
stay together. And it's true.
00:32:11.59\00:32:14.56
It's it's only through prayer
that we can humble ourselves
00:32:14.56\00:32:17.20
with each other and maybe
talk about and get the words to
00:32:17.20\00:32:20.27
express what sometimes is
so difficult. And it's the holy
00:32:20.27\00:32:23.61
spirit that has that. And if
we don't make room for the holy
00:32:23.61\00:32:26.07
spirit to help us, then
it becomes so much harder to
00:32:26.07\00:32:29.04
understand each other and
talk to each other. Absolutely.
00:32:29.04\00:32:32.35
We're going to
spend some time in prayer.
00:32:32.35\00:32:36.15
>> Toward the end of the
program, we want to pray for
00:32:36.15\00:32:38.49
you and what you're
going through and what your
00:32:38.49\00:32:40.29
challenges are. But before we
get there, I think we have time
00:32:40.29\00:32:43.73
for another story. So let's
talk. I don't know her name,
00:32:43.73\00:32:46.66
but this is I think she's
a student of yours, a girl.
00:32:46.66\00:32:49.60
Um. And there was an
issue with an older man.
00:32:49.60\00:32:53.54
>> Yes, this is a very
heartrending situation for me
00:32:53.54\00:32:57.51
as well. One that I didn't
know exactly what I should and
00:32:57.51\00:33:00.28
shouldn't do
00:33:00.28\00:33:02.38
so high in label this type a
personality by people. And it's
00:33:02.38\00:33:07.42
not a title I enjoy. I think
life shapes us and makes us who
00:33:07.42\00:33:11.72
we are
00:33:11.72\00:33:12.95
and with a or type A or another
type. We've got ones, all of us
00:33:12.95\00:33:16.73
in ministry. He needs all of us.
00:33:16.73\00:33:20.46
So over the years I have really
try to cultivate the gentler
00:33:20.46\00:33:24.70
side,
00:33:24.70\00:33:26.67
the more patients side and time
God is good and he is helping
00:33:26.67\00:33:31.84
mean teaching me.
00:33:31.84\00:33:34.18
But they are times when the
fierce are type a personality
00:33:34.18\00:33:37.38
is needed in ministry. And this
happened earlier this year when
00:33:37.38\00:33:41.48
I had a young student
00:33:41.48\00:33:43.45
who is being influence and more
later, when you are worth that
00:33:43.45\00:33:48.52
I've learned lately is groomed.
00:33:48.52\00:33:50.36
>> She's 14 years old and
she was physically abused by her
00:33:50.36\00:33:55.13
own relatives a few months
ago before joining our school.
00:33:55.13\00:33:58.87
And so we had a foreign student
attending our Bible training
00:33:58.87\00:34:03.24
school at the time. He's in his
late 30's. He's the father of
00:34:03.24\00:34:06.07
3. He's from a
foreign country, like I said,
00:34:06.07\00:34:09.08
and he started taking real
special interest in this girl
00:34:09.08\00:34:11.95
as her spiritual
mentor as an elder,
00:34:11.95\00:34:15.68
which would be OK if it wasn't
a healthy context. But this
00:34:15.68\00:34:20.16
became unhealthy where he with
single her out letter use his
00:34:20.16\00:34:23.93
phone here later, I found
out he was giving her money,
00:34:23.93\00:34:27.96
promising to take her back
to his country so she can go to
00:34:27.96\00:34:30.50
school all the things that a
vulnerable girl would grab bag,
00:34:30.50\00:34:34.10
that she could have
a hope and a future.
00:34:34.10\00:34:37.44
So I went to talk to them and
I talked to him in the presence
00:34:37.44\00:34:40.38
of leadership and I just
laid it out to him. My concerns.
00:34:40.38\00:34:44.31
I asked him to please abide by
the school rules to not seek or
00:34:44.31\00:34:48.28
out in an isolated situation
at all. But to go through that
00:34:48.28\00:34:52.65
female leaders at the school
whenever he needed to meet with
00:34:52.65\00:34:55.62
her or try and help her.
And he is he promised me that
00:34:55.62\00:34:59.06
he would do that.
00:34:59.06\00:35:00.93
But a few weeks went by and I
found out that he's giving her
00:35:00.93\00:35:03.30
money and gifts and that
she's going around to all her
00:35:03.30\00:35:06.07
girlfriends at the dorm, saying
how he cares for her and he's
00:35:06.07\00:35:09.97
going to be her
answer for for the education.
00:35:09.97\00:35:13.31
And I could sense
this was very unhealthy,
00:35:13.31\00:35:16.18
especially when she was
sneaking away from the dorm to
00:35:16.18\00:35:18.55
go find Hammond, writing him
letters and things to do so at
00:35:18.55\00:35:22.35
this point, you know, after
I had counsel with her after we
00:35:22.35\00:35:25.55
had counsel with her as a
team and she was not responding,
00:35:25.55\00:35:28.89
she was being drawn with this
man. We have to confront him.
00:35:28.89\00:35:32.96
So I went with more
representatives this time in a
00:35:32.96\00:35:36.00
group setting. I confronted
him night after remembering that
00:35:36.00\00:35:39.00
the foreign cultural setting
that we're in for me as a woman
00:35:39.00\00:35:43.47
to confront a man is frowned
upon, especially if I'm not
00:35:43.47\00:35:47.11
going to be tiptoeing in
doing it very diplomatically
00:35:47.11\00:35:50.75
intently.
00:35:50.75\00:35:52.28
So I started out gently and
I asked him, I reminded him of
00:35:52.28\00:35:55.55
our previous meeting that we had
00:35:55.55\00:35:58.02
and he just simply said, why
are you questioning me? Who are
00:35:58.02\00:36:01.42
you to come and talk to me? And
00:36:01.42\00:36:04.23
I realize that I'm dealing with
someone here who is not going
00:36:04.23\00:36:07.23
to take responsibility for any
of his actions. And I have to
00:36:07.23\00:36:10.13
stay on girl. I
had to think about.
00:36:10.13\00:36:12.20
So I was very straightforward
with Ham. I laid out to him.
00:36:12.20\00:36:15.40
The letter says she had been
riding the gifts he had been
00:36:15.40\00:36:17.74
giving her against
00:36:17.74\00:36:19.37
our school rules
of doing it in public
00:36:19.37\00:36:22.31
and he would just deny it all
along. Now. I'm fortunate that
00:36:22.31\00:36:26.21
I'm surrounded by caring
team who then took that and
00:36:26.21\00:36:29.28
investigated and
found that it was true.
00:36:29.28\00:36:32.32
And even then he was not
cooperating and he was asked to
00:36:32.32\00:36:35.79
leave immediately.
00:36:35.79\00:36:39.36
Now I'm left with this
girl. Yeah. And of course in her
00:36:39.36\00:36:43.60
immaturity, she can see what
I've been trying to do to help
00:36:43.60\00:36:46.97
her and keep her safe
00:36:46.97\00:36:48.84
to her. She's thinking she
just ruined my chances to get an
00:36:48.84\00:36:53.27
education to
have a new beginning.
00:36:53.27\00:36:56.54
And so
00:36:56.54\00:36:59.31
because of what she had
gone through physically and not
00:36:59.31\00:37:02.38
being able to share with anyone
to see if the council and the
00:37:02.38\00:37:05.32
treatment that she needs,
00:37:05.32\00:37:07.46
she's been driven to seek
out the attentions of this older
00:37:07.46\00:37:10.56
man.
00:37:10.56\00:37:12.19
And so I've tried different
ways to reach her heart.
00:37:12.19\00:37:15.33
I've tried different ways to
counsel her. I've given her a
00:37:15.33\00:37:18.43
consequence for 2 weeks.
And I say to you have to come
00:37:18.43\00:37:21.27
every day and let me give you
a hug. And it's not a quick hug.
00:37:21.27\00:37:26.41
It's a proper hug because these
kids have so little physical
00:37:26.41\00:37:30.48
touch star from action
from a pure motive from an older
00:37:30.48\00:37:35.18
adult.
00:37:35.18\00:37:36.38
And she was faithful with that.
Actually, she would come every
00:37:36.38\00:37:38.85
day for 2 weeks,
too. Find her hug.
00:37:38.85\00:37:41.79
And yet outwardly, I
don't see change. I don't see
00:37:41.79\00:37:47.30
how she's wanting to cooperate.
She's she was on holiday just
00:37:47.30\00:37:52.63
when I left to come to the
states. And I hear that she's
00:37:52.63\00:37:55.57
visiting the public areas where
the men play cool and hang out
00:37:55.57\00:37:59.41
and that's dangerous. Yeah,
it's I don't know. At the end
00:37:59.41\00:38:02.61
of her story is at this moment.
She's not asking to leave.
00:38:02.61\00:38:06.88
She's not asking to be
released. I have hope that as
00:38:06.88\00:38:09.65
we keep spending time with her
00:38:09.65\00:38:11.52
and putting boundaries and
explain to her why that maybe
00:38:11.52\00:38:14.86
she'll turn around and
maybe her life can take a much
00:38:14.86\00:38:17.56
positive turn.
00:38:17.56\00:38:18.69
>> That I wrote down the word
worry, do you worry for your
00:38:18.69\00:38:22.50
students, do you?
How do you do with that?
00:38:22.50\00:38:26.57
I worry. But again, you know,
I I pray I try. I love them.
00:38:26.57\00:38:34.21
>> And then I have wonderful
staff that I work with from the
00:38:34.21\00:38:37.61
matron, set the dormitories to
the teachers in the classrooms
00:38:37.61\00:38:41.52
who in their cultural ways and
can go with the language deeper
00:38:41.52\00:38:45.42
than I can to really come close
to them. And I'm very thankful
00:38:45.42\00:38:49.89
for our school because they
are in a group with other young
00:38:49.89\00:38:53.26
people
00:38:53.26\00:38:54.56
and that keeps them
there. And that gives them that
00:38:54.56\00:38:57.40
opportunity to get in touch
with Jesus on a daily basis.
00:38:57.40\00:39:00.67
And then
00:39:00.67\00:39:01.80
I give them to Jesus cause.
He cares about them much more
00:39:01.80\00:39:04.64
than I do.
00:39:04.64\00:39:05.77
>> And man, but I want to do
now just do an appeal for you
00:39:05.77\00:39:10.15
at home and
00:39:10.15\00:39:12.71
I don't know what you're going
through. I don't know what your
00:39:12.71\00:39:15.65
journey with Jesus is like.
Maybe you're just finding him
00:39:15.65\00:39:19.02
for the very first time.
00:39:19.02\00:39:21.09
Maybe you've walked with
him and you're uncertain.
00:39:21.09\00:39:26.49
Maybe you're experiencing
challenges in your home.
00:39:26.49\00:39:29.26
Maybe your mom and struggling
with feeling that validation
00:39:29.26\00:39:33.87
importance, raising those
children. Maybe you're walking
00:39:33.87\00:39:37.24
in leadership like principal of
a school or in some other area
00:39:37.24\00:39:41.34
of leadership that God
has called you to. Right now,
00:39:41.34\00:39:45.15
if you would like
00:39:45.15\00:39:48.28
we want to pray for you want
to put up an e-mail address.
00:39:48.28\00:39:51.92
You can e-mail us at 3 ABN
and we will reach out to you and
00:39:51.92\00:39:57.19
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00:39:57.19\00:40:03.87
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00:40:03.87\00:40:10.37
the 3 D and family. We
want to pray for you. We have a
00:40:10.37\00:40:13.94
pastoral department that will
pray over your needs and what
00:40:13.94\00:40:18.11
you're going through right now
and to not want to see if you
00:40:18.11\00:40:20.78
can look into the camera there
and talk to those people at
00:40:20.78\00:40:24.29
home. I'm just whatever the
learns put on your heart right
00:40:24.29\00:40:28.22
now and then we'll go to a stop.
00:40:28.22\00:40:31.73
We are on a journey
00:40:31.73\00:40:33.70
and I'm so thankful that the
end is not here. It's and have
00:40:33.70\00:40:36.63
fun, which is really the
beginning of life eternal.
00:40:36.63\00:40:40.70
>> And the decisions that we
make now has bearing on that he
00:40:40.70\00:40:44.27
turned it. And I'm thankful
that the Lourdes and leave us
00:40:44.27\00:40:46.37
to our decisions that we're
making here. But we do need to
00:40:46.37\00:40:49.31
realize that what we invest
in right now, what we spend our
00:40:49.31\00:40:52.15
time on what we're committed
to right now, it does have an
00:40:52.15\00:40:54.85
influence on our
return. It to that. The Lord is
00:40:54.85\00:40:57.35
preparing for us. If
you're a young mother with young
00:40:57.35\00:41:00.56
children,
00:41:00.56\00:41:01.72
you are ministry right now is
so precious. It so valuable is
00:41:01.72\00:41:05.43
soon needed in a world
that is so broken today.
00:41:05.43\00:41:09.03
May the lord strengthen you
and help you keep you faithful.
00:41:09.03\00:41:12.77
If you're an older
lady right now, too,
00:41:12.77\00:41:15.57
are now called into a ministry
that maybe you have not had any
00:41:15.57\00:41:18.91
training for our
qualifications. Jus do it just
00:41:18.91\00:41:23.18
be faithful and obedient to the
Lord. He will use you. He will
00:41:23.18\00:41:26.28
supply your needs
00:41:26.28\00:41:27.92
and what a wonderful reward is
going to be when we get to have
00:41:27.92\00:41:31.35
in one day and
someone comes, students say,
00:41:31.35\00:41:34.02
Madam, because you were there
when you retired leaving your
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children at home, that one more
day when they should have had
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you. I'm here and I'm so
thankful now I'm praying that
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my children will be there, too,
because I am trying to involve
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them with what I'm doing.
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But sometimes when we pulled
this way, when we really want
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to go another way, it's OK to
Lourdes air with us and he will
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strengthen us and use us
anyways. And if you're an older
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lady yet who are not so active
right now in ministry anymore,
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you can pray and encourage
those young ladies because we
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need mothers in Israel. We
need someone to help us navigate
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this world today as woman
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may God bless you.
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>> And thank you so much.
We're going to now we're going
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to go to a song. And as
we listen to the song, just
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encourage you and the quietness
of your heart in your own home
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or if you're driving and you're
listening to it in the car,
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I'm just tell Jesus your
problems, tell him what you're
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going to tell him your
challenges. And then when we
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come out from the song,
we're going to spend a season in
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prayer for you at home. So
let's go to the song. This is
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Bin Essa, all Donna with Ben
Jenkins and the song they will
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be Minister Ng is I
must tell Chief Ash.
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>> Imus 10 0 G much from
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I can.
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>> It is.
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>> Dunn's in my district
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kindly will
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>> and thus to ease.
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My.
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>> Is
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the.
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>> We too.
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>> Thanks so much for the.
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>> To
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>> we must to be.
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I must be.
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And this can me.
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>> To the.
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>> And to do some
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has to be
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and he will.
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>> We need to.
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>> I was 10. She Imus, 2 news
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and the skin
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>> we
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>> Imus to know she is.
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I must, too.
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And just.
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>> We.
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>> She's.
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>> Our father in heaven.
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Marty says
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we are your children.
Teach us to tell you everything
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T test to come to
you day and night.
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>> Sometimes we are strong and
we are able with your help to
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do the work that you're
asking us to do with the Lord.
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Sometimes we are weak.
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We are lonely. We feel left out.
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Maybe that we're not value.
Maybe we don't know what our
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party is.
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But father, I
want to pray and ask
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there's someone watching
or listening today needs to be
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infused with your holy spirit.
Who needs to be encouraged
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again. May you please come
close to that person? Thank
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you. Please remind them of
your precious promises. You said
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that you'll never leave or
forsake us. You will not leave
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us Orphans. Satan wants us
to feel like orphans, father,
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but that's not how you work.
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Father. I pray that that person
will be encouraged in you to
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take up their duties again
with new green use strength with
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renewed energy and vigor
to know that it is going to be
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worth it in the and heaven is
cheap enough and one with those
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trophies come and say thank
you for being the hands and the
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feet of Jesus because of that.
I'm here today, lord, it will
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be worth everything that
you may have asked us to be
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separated for a little
bit from or to give up.
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Father, I thank you. I thank
you for Jesus. I thank you for
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the great
sacrifice that he has made.
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Lord in whatever sacrifice you
may ask us to make it pales in
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significance. It
has no meaning even.
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And yet you're worth says that
all art here so gathered up in
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your bottle, you know, and see
everything. Nothing is wasted
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or lost or forgotten. So
father, we want to commit
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ourselves. We want to come in
our Ministries 3ABN, Q do lend
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thousands of ministries.
You have around the globe man
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and a woman, even the ground
pop father's the grandmothers
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who are purring like
prayer warriors for the work.
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>> Police father infuse
us again. Make a strong a new
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word. Fill us with your
holy spirit and help us to be
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faithful from day to day
father. I pray and I ask that
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we will not build our kingdoms
in this world and that we will
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look to Jesus that we will
prepare layup, our treasure in
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and father. Thank you.
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Thank you for providing for
all our means in Jesus name.
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I pray, Amen.
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>> Father you said were 2 or
3 years and years. Your presence
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there and then and I thank you
for your presence. I thank you
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for the anointing of your
holdings. And I think you got
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that
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no matter where we have been
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no matter what we have time,
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no matter how broke and we feel
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>> that you are God who
restores your God, her for kids
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in climate
change. Your God, who?
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>> Recreates and not the image
of cheese. I pray especially
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for our sisters who are
watching it listening right
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now. God, you know, their
hearts cry. You know what they
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battle with, you know, with the
struggles are, you know where
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they need strength and victory
and deliverance in wisdom and
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understanding, you know, where
they need can passion and love
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and forgive us, lord, my
sister, Antoinette and I pray
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for that for ourselves.
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God, you know what we need.
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I thank you for
bringing Antoinette here.
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The minister in shared tonight.
I pray for the anointing of
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your holy spirit over she
and her husband Jason and their
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daughters. And I pray for your
spirits protection as N Z there
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it could be due a farms.
We pray for the young people
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gone there at the school's
those come from broken homes.
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Those who come from abuse,
those who are disadvantaged
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God, which you wrap your arms
around them and reveal yourself
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to them enough way. I pray
that it would work through.
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I'm Antoinette that you would
work to chase and that you work
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for the teachers and those
who volunteer those who are
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involved in the school as they
minister to the young people.
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We pray for souls that would
be as a brand plucked from the
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Bernie
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Lord. We ask that you would
bless the school. We ask that
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you would bless your children
all over the world. Both men
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and women who is
seeking to serve you
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seeking to be leaders
in whatever their sphere of
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influence hands.
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We thank you for your love and
you're good. Yes, we thank you
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for the work you have done
and what you are going to 2.
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And we ask all this and the
precious and the holy name of
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cheese they meant.
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>> Want to give the website
for the school one more time and
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then we'll have some closing
thoughts here. But the website
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for the school can't do La Dot
org. That's Kay ID ID. You l a
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kid, the doula Dot org. If
the lords put on your heart to
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support them financially to
pray for them for sure or to
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get involved and that ministry.
So that's the Web site where
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you can do just that.
What would be some of it,
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the ways that the 3 D
and family can pray for you?
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What would be some of
the needs that you have?
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>> So right now I have to
transition again a little bit.
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I have been the active
day-to-day principal at this
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school. That means I deal with
discipline and grades and the
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government all from day to day.
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But the school has come to the
point where I need to develop
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the industry more. I need
to do more donor connections,
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profiling the students. So
I really do need a replacement
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for me in my current position
as principal so that I can step
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out a little bit and see
the bigger picture and guide and
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manage the bigger picture.
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So I am the process of
looking for someone who can
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the use that God given love for
young people that God has given
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them
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to lead and guide the school
and agricultural pursuits.
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And then I can be focusing more
on the big picture if you could
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just pray for keeping
doula. It's has a very humble
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beginning. But the Lord
is taking us on an amazing
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journey. The last few years,
00:53:25.17\00:53:27.30
the mission is growing and
expanding very fast. I'm very
00:53:27.30\00:53:31.21
excited about what's happening
there. And it's going to impact
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not just 10 Xenia, but the rest
of Africa around us as well.
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Just prayer with the so much
appreciated. And I we people
00:53:38.68\00:53:42.15
don't realize how much we
appreciate when people reach
00:53:42.15\00:53:44.49
out to us and say, you
know what, we're praying for you
00:53:44.49\00:53:46.69
because it helps us. And it
reminds us that were part of a
00:53:46.69\00:53:48.92
greater family and
that we're not by yourself.
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>> The men that power from the
heart has been so blessed this
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evening. As you've shared from
your heart in your experience
00:53:54.83\00:53:58.10
and your stories and the wisdom
that God's given you through
00:53:58.10\00:54:01.60
experience and time in prayer
in time, in his words. So thank
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you for what you do for the
cause of God. I took notes the
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second hour and these are
some of my takeaways from what
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Antoinette shared, of course,
not everything. And then we'll
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give you time for a closing
thought. Spent time in the work
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do what is right in front of
you. Even if other people may
00:54:20.86\00:54:25.13
feel like it's an important
God sees what's important
00:54:25.13\00:54:28.13
the open with your spouse,
protect your family life,
00:54:28.13\00:54:33.60
focus on Jesus, not on
yourself. Prioritize what is
00:54:33.60\00:54:39.37
truly important. And this would
be true for ministry or family
00:54:39.37\00:54:44.48
give validation, but
don't expect it trust God,
00:54:44.48\00:54:48.58
regardless, stay faithful to
the work and ministry that God
00:54:48.58\00:54:54.52
has called you to pace yourself
and learn those boundaries,
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prioritize your family and
just do it. Step out on the call
00:55:00.26\00:55:05.60
that God has given to
you. So do you have a closing
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thought for a cent?
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>> So I shared at the end of my
talk at a a sign that we are an
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arrow in our father's quiver.
And that was my friend Pastor
00:55:16.38\00:55:20.15
Stephen Grabner who share that
in the seminar on leadership.
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And it was very point none
to me because sometimes I feel
00:55:23.69\00:55:26.92
like a wet spaghetti noodle
actually. Yeah. And ye Gon is
00:55:26.92\00:55:30.46
asking me to do this job
that I really feel I can I do.
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But then I'm reminded
that it's his holy spirit.
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>> And working in me that
strengthens me. It's him taking
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the aim and doing the shooting.
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>> And he can hit the mark.
And when I realized that again,
00:55:43.87\00:55:47.41
it gives me new courage to
come back to him again and say,
00:55:47.41\00:55:50.41
Lord, I feel very weak right
now. I feel inadequate. Give me
00:55:50.41\00:55:54.92
what I need. Again. Police
inspire and revive me again for
00:55:54.92\00:55:59.12
the ministry. The and if it's
true for me then is true for
00:55:59.12\00:56:01.76
you is true for
everyone in ministry.
00:56:01.76\00:56:04.79
>> Her name and thank you
so much for sharing from your
00:56:04.79\00:56:07.76
heart tonight in
being here with us tonight.
00:56:07.76\00:56:10.40
I am not qualified women
in leadership, but yet God
00:56:10.40\00:56:14.00
qualifies the call. And that's
what caused send in your life.
00:56:14.00\00:56:17.14
Know that that review and
family and myself personally
00:56:17.14\00:56:19.67
will be praying for you
and your ministry in what God's
00:56:19.67\00:56:22.34
called you to do. Thank you
so much for sharing and we thank
00:56:22.34\00:56:26.18
you at home are 3ABN family
for joining with us as well.
00:56:26.18\00:56:30.59
I've had my Bible the whole
time open to Isaiah Chapter 6.
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And I want to close with that.
This is, of course, the call of
00:56:33.79\00:56:36.49
God to the prophet Isaiah.
And after he saw the vision of
00:56:36.49\00:56:41.20
God high and lifted up in
the temple after his lips were
00:56:41.20\00:56:45.27
touched with a cold from
off the altar and his son was
00:56:45.27\00:56:49.00
purged. God called him. And
what did he say here? Am I send
00:56:49.00\00:56:54.11
me? I don't know what ministry,
what sphere of influence or
00:56:54.11\00:56:58.18
leadership.
00:56:58.18\00:56:59.38
>> The Lord is calling you to.
But I pray that you will answer
00:56:59.38\00:57:03.22
the call here. Am I
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