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00:05 >> I want to. 00:11 >> Many 00:18 [MUSIC] 00:26 >> too. 00:32 [MUSIC] 00:37 >> I'm 00:43 and 00:48 I want to stand 00:53 too. 00:55 [MUSIC] 01:00 [MUSIC] 01:07 >> Hello, I'm sheli conjoined equal and we welcome you to 3 A 01:11 B in LIVE. 01:13 You know, 3 A B and stands for 3 Angels Broadcasting Network. 01:19 Our ministry is built on the 3 Angels messages of revelation 01:25 14 and that message itself. In Revelation, 14, 6, the first 01:32 Angel has the everlasting gospel to take to all the 01:36 world. You know what? The everlasting gospel is 01:39 revelation, 13 8 that she says Christ Islam, who was slain 01:45 from the foundation of the World Hebrews 13 20, but his 01:48 blood is the blood of the Everlasting Covenant and the 01:52 goal of God's Covenant of Righteousness by Faith. The 01:56 Second Corinthians 5.21, that says he made him 02:01 who knew no sand to be sent for us, that we might become the 02:07 righteousness of God in Christ. Jesus, 02:12 the message of righteousness by faith. 02:16 I understood correctly there will be no liberalism 02:21 and there will be no legal. Listen, 02:24 there's only one way, only one path way to salvation. That's 02:29 righteousness by fate. And tonight, we're so excited 02:33 because we're with the directors of the 18 88 miss 02:38 each study, the committee and they are sold out to this messy 02:45 of righteousness by faith. And let me introduce our guest 02:50 for right now. First we have Brian and Lindy shorts, both 02:55 doctors. 02:56 So glad that you're here. Brian, you are the what do you 03:00 do? 03:02 >> The interventional cardiologist in the medical 03:04 director for heart and vascular at that Kettering Medical 03:07 Center in Dayton, Ohio, a man. And then in your spare time, 03:10 you are chairman of the board for the 2 made it necessary to 03:15 avoid. 03:16 >> Lindy, tell us what you do. 03:18 First of all, it is wonderful to be here with both you, 03:21 Shelley and JD. And we want to thank the 3 the an family for 03:25 having us back again. So I'm a physician also at Kettering 03:29 Medical Center of Internal Medicine specialist. I actually 03:32 I'm the director of the residency in internal medicine. 03:35 So I train 03:37 residents to become internal medicine. Doctors hate Scott 03:40 and I'm a member of the advisory board for the 18. 03:44 It misses the new committee and I'm also very proud and happy 03:47 to be married to Brian Schwartz, as you and I make a 03:52 wonderful couple. And then your sister, you brought your 03:56 sister's husband with Yahoo. 04:03 >> And Sacre fog, tell us what you sow. I'm from Boston. 04:06 Then I'm on the director of the cardiac anesthesiology services 04:09 out of one of the hospitals in Boston. That's what I do for my 04:12 day job and a very busy with that. But happy to be here with 04:16 you guys very, very much because we're just so so 04:18 privilege and so blessed and just feel so encourage them a 04:21 chance to share the safety message with with you guys and 04:24 with the broader world. 04:26 >> They made in. So you are the actually the president of the 04:29 18 88 economy. 04:32 I just want to tonight's Miss. Each is called the 18 88. 04:37 It's a message that the truth as it is in Jesus. 04:43 This is my favorite topic because when you understand the 04:47 message of righteousness by faith, you can't help but fall 04:50 in love with God because it really feels the love of God in 04:55 such a special way. And then you know that you want to walk 05:00 in loving obedience and loyalty to the Lord. Before we begin, 05:05 I could go on and on. We I have I'm very appropriate song for 05:11 tonight. We know you love music. We love them. And that 05:14 is going to be bringing is that you see. Can you tell us it 05:18 will. 05:19 >> You are wound up. Not haha. 05:24 >> I want to bring it back to have a little in Christ alone. 05:29 And Jamie George is going to share. 05:32 He's so gifted. We love Jamie. So in Christ alone. 05:37 [MUSIC] 05:42 [MUSIC] 05:47 [MUSIC] 05:52 [MUSIC] 05:57 [MUSIC] 06:02 [MUSIC] 06:07 [MUSIC] 06:12 [MUSIC] 06:15 [MUSIC] 06:20 [MUSIC] 06:25 [MUSIC] 06:27 >> We. 06:29 [MUSIC] 06:34 [MUSIC] 06:39 >> And these 2. 06:41 >> This the Mai Mai Stream. My Psalm. 06:49 >> This. 06:56 >> The news sent strong and stop. 07:06 [MUSIC] 07:11 [MUSIC] 07:13 >> Fat 10. I owe you and the love. Cry highs too. 07:24 [MUSIC] 07:29 >> In crime 07:33 [MUSIC] 07:38 [MUSIC] 07:43 [MUSIC] 07:53 [MUSIC] 07:58 [MUSIC] 08:03 [MUSIC] 08:08 [MUSIC] 08:13 [MUSIC] 08:16 [MUSIC] 08:21 [MUSIC] 08:26 [MUSIC] 08:32 [MUSIC] 08:37 [MUSIC] 08:42 [MUSIC] 08:47 [MUSIC] 08:52 [MUSIC] 08:57 [MUSIC] 08:59 >> calls home. 09:05 [MUSIC] 09:10 [MUSIC] 09:15 [MUSIC] 09:20 [MUSIC] 09:25 [MUSIC] 09:30 [MUSIC] 09:33 >> So kitted out here and play if you are joining us just a 09:38 little later. Special guests tonight are doctors Bob and 09:42 Sacre Mindy and Brian Schwartz. And we are scoring too, have a 09:48 marvelous, a rousing discussion tonight of the meat. 09:51 >> Also, surely this is a live program to our LIVE program 60 09:56 minutes and 60 minutes and we are taking your questions. 10:00 So let me give you is we're going to take them through text 10:03 and that is 6, 1, 8, You can look at the bottom of your 10:06 screen, 618-228-3975. And if you want to e-mail it well, 10:14 then it's live at 3ABN DOT TV. 10:18 >> Please send those questions am absolutely. We're so excited 10:23 about this. So now let me just kick this off and ask you guys 10:28 what happened in 18, 88 that warrants all of this excitement 10:35 and why is it still relevant today? 10:37 >> Who wants to start a? That's a great question. 10:40 I think it's a critical question, actually. I think as 10:42 we if you look at any of God's movements throughout history, 10:46 from from the the Jewish nation to early Christian church to 10:52 the reformation church, there's always been times when God has 10:55 had to sort of keep us on the straight and narrow path and 10:58 where that includes includes our denomination. So our admin 11:02 as pioneers went through something called the great 11:04 disappointment. They're expecting a lot to come. 11:07 It didn't happen, but they weren't detector discourage. 11:10 It pressed ahead. But over time, they began to be very 11:13 sort of sort of 11:16 promoting the truth, but not the truth as it is in Jesus. 11:20 I'm going to be something that talks about them losing side of 11:23 Jesus. So so guy throughout history, whether it's Elijah in 11:26 the Old Testament are Peter and Paul, the New Testament or 11:29 Martin Luther Reformation sent messengers to give additional 11:34 line to get correction to give direction to God's people. 11:36 So to you as it were was a time when God said us, listen, 11:40 I want to keep you on the straight and narrow. Here's 11:42 additional lights and you guys can grow up into the measure, 11:45 the stature, the fullness of Christ. And as throughout 11:47 history, he sends messengers people that are specially 11:50 receptive and appreciative of what he wants to communicate 11:54 and the team you happen to be too young gentleman named E T 11:56 Jones needs a wagon. Young gentleman there, 20's 30's. 12:00 It that were responsive, intercepted them bible students 12:02 and communicated or church additional like the God had for 12:05 us. And it's something it's been a huge blessing to so many 12:08 since then. And what was that additional light? 12:11 >> Well, there's a lot we're going to talk about that whole 12:13 time. But it all bottom line is the bottom line. It rephrase 12:17 that. 12:19 >> Truth to the truth as it is in Jesus. It was a message 12:21 about the righteousness of Christ on the character of God, 12:25 the beauty of his character, the chaos and the love of God 12:27 for each one of us. What he's done for each one of us now, 12:30 sometimes people get caught up in talking about, well, they 12:33 talked about the horns and Daniel, they talked about the 12:36 long galatians and those are all issues. But those were 12:38 superficial issues from the fundamental issue that was 12:41 going on. There was God was trying to bring us to 12:43 repentance, to mature a team to the point where he could 12:46 resolve this whole controversy become a second time that was 12:49 going on underneath a superficial kinds of issues. 12:52 >> And and so you know what it was said that you the heart of 12:54 what was being presented was uplifted say, yeah, so uplifted 12:58 savior is I think that would summarize what you said. 13:02 That was the focus of everything. And when we of 13:05 uplift the savior, would Jesus say he would drop all to 13:09 himself? And I truly believe, as you know, this is my 13:14 favorite top. Yeah, haha. But I truly believe that if we 13:19 understand this truth 13:22 and if we will see fall so much love with the more that we will 13:27 be sold out for the Lord. And I believe if we prot, 13:31 yes, this truth, as we're called to do 13:36 the eternal light of God's love and humility will open people's 13:41 eyes and we'll see people coming into from other 13:44 religions, not just Christianity, but if people 13:47 understand who the person of Jesus Christ is, I think it 13:52 will be world changing. Now, this is an interesting thing 13:56 that I'm going to ask you because I had heard it said 14:02 some people think to look 14:05 to the 18 88 minutes. Each 14:08 is like we are looking backward in history. 14:13 I don't see it that way myself. But 14:16 how do you feel about when someone has a makes a comment 14:20 like this to you? How do you respond? 14:22 >> Now there's a couple things about that was over 100 years 14:26 ago. And it does seem like a long time in our short time 14:30 frame. But, you know, if we don't learn from our history, 14:32 we're destined to repeat it. 14:34 As we look back in history since Jesus walked in this 14:38 world, there's really been to 14:40 incredible watershed moments where the holy Spirit was 14:44 poured out there. Early rain with the apostles and the 14:47 latter, a that Ellen White, Dana fide was being poured out 14:51 as part of this message. And so 14:55 what Martin Luther did was incredible, what the reformers 14:57 that was incredible. But here was an anti message that was to 15:01 be united with the power of the Holy Spirit, the outpouring of 15:06 the letter, and that was to prepare people to give us those 15:09 that would warn the whole world and to uplift Christ as the 15:13 savior of the world that would draw everyone to repentance. 15:16 And so we have to ask the question, if that was all part 15:19 of the U.S. 15:20 and we're still here, there must be something that we've 15:24 missed that we need to look back at or we could be 15:27 repeating the same 15:28 belief jus like the Jews had when they refused or this 15:32 relates to when they refused to cross over 15:35 the Jordan River and the Cain and it had to wander in the 15:38 wilderness for 40 years as a possible. We, too, have been 15:42 wondering over and over again, the Bible tells us. 15:45 >> To remember, yes. Remember, remember, as Ryan said, if we 15:49 do remember, history are doomed to repeat it. One of our 15:52 advocates found or says that by looking back to our history, 15:56 we can see the lords leading and is teaching our past 15:58 history. Nothing to fear for the future she says, except so 16:02 there's a caution fearing for the future, except as we forget 16:05 the largely teaching our past history. So as we move forward, 16:08 we need to look back in to enable us to move forward. 16:10 I would say yeah, and I believe that. 16:13 >> The the righteousness by faith miss each is the message 16:18 of the hour because this is a this is the only way that we 16:23 will really got can capture people's hearts mended. You 16:27 know, I think we also believe and I think that's already been 16:29 alluded to that this message was designed by God to be the 16:34 loud cry message that brings on the lever. Absolutely. And so 16:37 we believe that this message is key to the latter rain. I think 16:40 the reason that we're so committed to the message and 16:43 passion about it in and teach about it, every opportunity we 16:46 get is that we believe that there is something in this 16:49 message 16:50 that will bring on the latter rain. You know, Ellen White 16:54 said that after it was actually even before the 18 88 John 16:58 Conference session. But she has said several times I forgot the 17:03 exact date when the first of these maybe 18, 52. And she 17:06 said first time that Christ could've come air this week. 17:10 Prescott compare this. So which means that Christ wants to come 17:14 back 17:15 and there's something in this message. I think that that I 17:18 believe he's going to work out his plan, but but he needs us 17:22 to participate with him. And I think presenting a mess 17:25 is that he said 17:26 Ellen White would bring on the outpouring of the holy spirit. 17:31 She says in large measure, 17:33 I want can take to be a time for me to take quick story. 17:37 Absolutely moved to Texas 17:39 and we moved to the central part of Texas where the family 17:42 farm was got their 5 year drought. There were cracks in 17:46 the ground and that were 3 inches across. And I don't know 17:50 how date. 17:51 And so I joined my voice to the chorus of people who work. 17:55 Why out to the Lord for Rain. JD was out of town one night. 18:00 I heard the PD pattern on the tin roof and then all of a 18:03 sudden it was just became a gully washers column in the 18:07 teens. I I looked outside the window. You couldn't even see 3 18:11 feet in front of you because of how 18:14 still the rain was coming to us. Folks. I could hardly sleep 18:18 because I want to go out. See what a difference it made 18:22 next morning when out 18:24 ground was just as our didn't rise. That was before 18:29 what it happened. All the water, the ground was so hard. 18:32 The water had run off and our tanks. That's what we call 18:35 ponds, Texas, but our tanks that caught water. But there 18:39 was nothing in the Lord spoke. I mean, you know what? He said 18:43 justice. It is in the physical. So shall it be in the spirit 18:47 now, if we have not been influence by the Holy Spirit, 18:54 the Bible study Ince inch surrendering to God. 18:58 When the latter rain is pouring out, it will run off our to our 19:02 backs like water off a duck's back. Yeah. So it's something 19:07 that if this message which is everlasting gospel, I mean it 19:13 it's introduced in Genesis is 5th at 3.15, minutes throughout 19:17 revelation. So if we don't pay attention to this message that 19:23 was brought in, we're in trouble. So let's talk about 19:26 what are some of that points that Wagner in Jones. 19:32 >> Made in this 18 88 missing? What made their missing unique? 19:37 Yeah. 19:39 >> I'm a one point we should start I think is is that if the 19:41 message emphasizes not just what God did for the believer 19:45 that we focus a lot on that as Christians, what God has done 19:48 for the whole human race, a man with a couple versus here to 19:51 bring this out, things we don't really think about very often. 19:53 They are 3 or 4 versus and sort of quick succession to bring 19:55 this out. 19:57 Here's first Timothy for 10. We trust the living God, 20:00 who is the savior of all men, especially those who believe. 20:06 So Jesus isn't just the savior of the believer. He's the 20:10 savior of the whole world. Now, they may not know that 20:12 many now believe it, but he still their savior today. 20:15 Now this comes up a bunch of dancers first, John, 4.14, 20:18 and we have seen and testified that the father has sent the 20:21 sun has saviour of 20:24 the world. So again, the by was bring out the cause, not just 20:28 the savior of the believer, but he's a savor the whole world. 20:31 Now, here's John 4.42. This is after the woman to well 20:35 experience. She invites. She's back to the town there in 20:37 some area and you speak to them for a couple days. At the end 20:40 of that experience, the minister mayor come to her and 20:43 say, we believe not just based on what you said, but we've 20:47 what we've seen and they say this, we believe not because of 20:50 thy saying speak about the well for we have heard him Jesus 20:54 ourselves and though that this is indeed the the Christ, 20:58 the savior of 21:00 the world. So the message is 18 message was trying to bring out 21:04 was not just the Jesus is the savior of you when you believe 21:07 that Jesus went out and save you before you believe that? 21:10 I mean, everyone is going to happen. No, no, but Jesus right 21:14 now today is everybody savior. If it wasn't for what Jesus had 21:18 done, nobody would have life, atheist, Christian, but a 21:22 Muslim Buddhist, everyone today has life today because of what 21:25 Jesus has done it. So starting with one of the our message 21:28 isn't. 21:29 >> If you believe, yeah, then he'll be your saviour. And our 21:32 message is Jesus as your savior from say, believe it. It does 21:36 mean if you Billy first he would do something for you, 21:41 right? He is already done something for you. Believe it. 21:45 >> It has to be that way because all of us are so rich 21:49 and so miserably last that there's nothing we can do to 21:52 initiate or salvation. And the Romans 5 in the first part 21:57 hoping to. But I'm going I'm going to go to this. But if you 22:01 go to the we're all here, but Hicks where we were still 22:05 without strength, 22:07 somebody without straight can't do anything to rescue 22:09 themselves in due time. Christ died for the golly force in 22:13 that while we were still centers and verse 8, why we 22:16 were enemies. We were as far away from guy. We were 22:20 alienated from God. We didn't we wouldn't even know or 22:24 condition if he hadn't come to rescue us first. And so 22:29 the good news is that they really emphasize that is that 22:32 God has to be the in this year of everything regarding 22:35 salvation and struck with the fact that every other religion 22:40 in the world, 22:41 every pagan, religion, Buddhism, every religion has 22:46 the idea that we have to do something to make ourselves 22:49 right for so that we can except us and and Catholicism. Martin 22:54 Luther when he saw that text and Romans, one was on Disney's 22:58 climbing pilots staircase and realizing no righteousnesses by 23:03 faith and it's got as the initiator of all things the 23:07 end. The thing that really strikes me is what is always 23:11 got his initiative or we are the responder. We love him 23:14 because he first loved us. That's the goodness of God that 23:19 leads us to repentance. You. We experienced justification by 23:23 faith because he has justified us. He is the savior of all the 23:26 world and therefore we can experience of a response. 23:30 So let's hope. 23:32 >> Paz Baja, one out here is saying what you mean, 23:35 justification by faith and what is just and then I think that 23:39 >> I I I'm going to this is beautiful. And I want people to 23:42 know that this concept will save your life. And but because 23:47 Brian mentioned Polish staircase, if you want to look 23:50 at contrasts 23:52 between what the 18 88 messages with teaching and Ellen White 23:56 as well with teaching compared to, you know, most religions, 24:02 it was palace to kiss is a good example. Contracting to the 24:07 Shepard who's reaching down for sheep that is lost. So in 24:11 Polish tickets, they're climbing, trying to reach to 24:14 God, 24:15 whereas with the sheep that is lost, that can't do anything to 24:18 save itself with the ship and looking for the sheep and does 24:21 not give up until he finds it. And that's what's important 24:24 about Gore's initiative. But it did what every something 24:28 this is. My JB thought that Shelley was excited top. 24:34 This is a psychic soaking. So so in terms of the 24:37 initiative and this is one area, I think that really does 24:40 need to be clear fact. I think it's such amazing news. The 24:43 Gospel is better than we think it is. It's because God is out 24:46 looking for. So just looking well matched up to 5. Brian 24:49 read 6, 8, in 10 about 24:53 being without strengthen gardening. Without strength 24:55 means you can't do anything. You set your helpless. 24:59 But there's something in and show us about justification. 25:02 And the question is, and this is where 25:06 possible you possibility for some confusion. And it is what 25:10 is it exactly that Christ did for us? So in verse 12, it 25:15 simply says this. They're full justice through one man, 25:20 Tion entered the loot and U.S. death spread too. All men, 25:24 your Romans, 5 most up to 5 was 12 because all sent the stops 25:29 and thinks about it for a while. Then has a several texts 25:32 of prevent. This is the other words. He explains it, but it 25:37 doesn't get back to Bush 12 until this 18. So let's just 25:41 look at this 18. The NAFTA was 18 and they look at look at the 25:45 17th and I want to read something that wag and talked 25:47 about. 25:50 So that's 12 says that off all mend the deaths pecked on that 25:54 because all cent and then in verse 18, he says their full at 25:58 the end of the Perth. This at the end of the parenthesis. 26:00 That's right front at the end of the threat, this their full 26:03 as through one man's offense, judgment came to all men 26:09 resulting in 26:11 condemnation, even so through one man's right, just act. 26:16 And that right just act is the cross of Christ to one man is 26:21 right. Just act 26:25 to all men and my publicist all meant to all men resulting in. 26:32 I can skip one with to avoid confusion, which is a result in 26:35 life. 26:36 The Bible does say resulted in justification of life. So the 26:40 question is, what does that mean? Does that mean everyone 26:42 is going to have an Lou? 26:44 It doesn't mean everyone is going to heaven. So let me just 26:47 being wagged into commenting on these 2 buses. 26:52 He says the condom mission, that death passed up on all 26:56 men. That's what he said and judgment came upon all meant to 27:00 condemnation. Then he addresses the idea of justification of 27:05 life. And he says by the righteousness of one of the 27:09 free gift, it came up on all men and 2 justification of 27:14 life. He quotes that then he says this. There is no 27:17 exception here 27:20 as the condemnation came upon all. So the justification comes 27:25 upon all Christ has tasted death for every man he's given 27:30 himself for all ne. He's given himself to every meant the free 27:35 gift has come up on all the fact that it is a free gift is 27:39 evidence that there is no exception. It is effect if a 27:44 plan to get it in the Bible that the gift of right just as 27:47 Nest and life in Christ has come to every minute. The 27:51 there's not the slightest reason why every man that has 27:54 ever lived should not be saved on to turn left except 27:57 that they would not have it so many. She's been the gift so 28:01 offered freely. So that's why the 17 Paul says for it by one 28:06 man's offense, death reigned through the one much all those 28:10 who receive the abundance of grace and if the gift of 28:14 righteousness or rain through life. So 28:17 the gift is come 28:19 everybody now so many spoon it. We fuse it. But if you receive 28:24 it. 28:25 >> You'll have eternal life. So let me break it down. 28:27 Just something a little simpler to understand it home. 28:34 Our creator, God 28:37 humbled himself to become a man he took on their flesh to 28:41 become the son of man in the covenant son of God 28:46 was obedient to the point. If death on the cross when 28:49 Christ died on the cross, 28:53 we say the word justify this is a legal word that a heavenly 28:59 judge 29:00 either is going to pronounce s guilty or not guilty. Justified 29:07 condemned. So if we are come dammed, that means we did not 29:13 receive the freakin. Yes, this way, if we are justified debt 29:17 means the blood of Christ cover star stance and God, it's he 29:21 looks down. There's no forensic evidence because we've accepted 29:25 this freak. If that's offered to all and just to be justified 29:30 means 29:32 to be declared not guilty. You're acquitted a fierce and 29:37 so justification by righteousness, the 29:42 righteousness 29:44 by faith in Christ. 29:47 Yeah. And it is a failed bill to off. Yes, but you look so P 29:51 and C. 29:53 >> No, I was just going to comment. Lynn White articulate 29:55 this in a couple different ways. But one that's meant a 29:57 lot to me is where she says with his own blood. Jesus 30:01 Christ signed the Emancipation Papers and she does not have 30:05 the believer only but of the race we need to essentially at 30:08 the cross with his own. But he didn't just sign the Freedom 30:11 Papers, the legal freedom for the believe only but for the 30:13 whole race. That's something we don't think about a lot as we 30:16 think about what God has done for the believer. We don't 30:18 appreciate what God has done for the whole world. The place 30:21 she says it this way. Never one saint or sinner. It's his daily 30:26 bread, but he is nourished by the body and blood of Christ on 30:29 the Cross of Christ is stamped on every water. Spring is 30:32 manifested in every loaf of bread. What she's saying there 30:35 she saying every single person on this planet 30:38 saint or sinner believer, Unbeliever atheist or theorist, 30:42 but Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, any religious world, they're 30:46 all benefiting from the cross of Christ. So are evangelists 30:50 to pitch an isn't just if you do this, if you do this, 30:54 then God will do for you to our evangelism is got has already 30:58 done all of this for you. Believe it. Appreciate it. 31:02 Received a very different motivational realities right in 31:05 the first one. I'm grasping for something for my own security 31:08 in the other one. I'm expressing appreciation to got 31:11 40's already done for me. I think that's a critical 31:14 difference that when we realize what price with their you're 31:18 quoting a sense, Ali Philippians 2 as Jesus. Yes, 31:20 up down these steps. 31:22 >> Down to the point of death, even the death of a crossed. 31:25 Yeah. So we realize what Jesus went through in the cross. 31:28 It will melt your heart that we will see what it costume to 31:32 justify the whole rest. And at that point we respond are her 31:37 is united with his when we express justification by faith, 31:40 a man that is an experience that transforms our life. 31:43 It's not just a little step. It is actually a transformation 31:47 of my mind or I only reconciled to God who has already been 31:51 reconciled is and it is. 31:53 >> Paul says the Fusion's to you were good in your 31:56 transgressed transgressions. I I say it this way. Grace 32:01 wrote the check faith. It takes it to the bank. So guys are the 32:06 root the chest and he's handing it to you just like to yes, 32:09 if you will, just received this gift, didn't un be will be 32:15 transferred into his kingdom and you are justified by faith. 32:21 And then you know what's a quick thought here 32:25 when we study what happened in the Garden of Eden 32:30 as soon as Adam and Eve sand, there was the Scott came in and 32:34 made the announcement of the everlasting gospel and he's 32:38 saying to the serpent, I am going to put immunity pin you 32:42 in the woman you're seen in her seat. 32:46 We'll peruse your head. You're going to see seal. He's talking 32:49 about them aside. Yes, but immediately this is what just 32:54 blows. My mind 32:56 got immediately opened the pathway to restore 33:00 righteousness by faith and through this substitution Arie 33:04 sacrificial system. Yes, that pointed to Jesus Christ. 33:08 So when we're talking about Christ's death on the cross, 33:11 it was for all ages, all the world, all the people, all 33:16 Testament Saints or saviors, looking forward to the coming 33:21 messiah or save looking back and looking at the humid side 33:25 pretty. And there's a sense in which even the whole universe 33:28 is secure because of what Christian. 33:30 >> And I bring this out real quick because this is a live 33:33 program and this is exciting and some of you may have some 33:38 questions. 33:40 What are they talking about? Our I thought this or I thought 33:43 that. So there's 2 ways of getting your questions in here 33:48 and look at the bottom of the screen. If you want to text 33:51 than at 618-228-3975, r if you want to e-mail or them. Well, 33:58 that's live at 3 ABN DOT TV place those questions. And 34:03 because 34:04 you've got some people here that the know their bottled 34:07 heard well Euclid. 34:11 >> It's exciting. So what are some of the of the unique 34:13 points of the 18 88 message? 34:16 >> Well, another one that sort of flows from this is that 34:19 God's love is so influential and so powerful. It actually 34:22 makes it hard for us to be lost and easier to be safe. And that 34:26 sounds like a counter intuitive radical statement, right? 34:30 But remember in Matthew Chapter 11, Jesus says to us, take my 34:34 yoke upon. You talk to you must be hard to take my yoke upon 34:37 you and learn of me for my yoke is easy, not heavy and 34:42 burdensome. It's so terrible to be a Christian are so many 34:45 birds. As now my yoke is easy 34:48 and my burden is light on. So go find rest for your so you 34:51 find rest for your souls. Yes, rather. And Satan paint 34:54 this picture that it's, you know, so hard. It's such a 34:57 difficult thing. It's so burdensome to be a Christian to 35:00 say no, no, no, no. Being a Christian is the easier path 35:04 when your life. I agree when when Paul was on the road to 35:08 Damascus and Jesus came to present himself to him and he's 35:12 in talks with out there, who are you again and says I'm 35:14 Jesus from the persecuted and then uses this interesting. 35:17 70 says it's hard for you to kick against the press. Yeah. 35:21 You're you're doing that hard road. Paul resisting my Holy 35:25 Spirit. Resisting your conscience. That's the hard 35:27 road. 35:28 >> Yeah. Explain that for somebody that too, is some some 35:30 say kicking some translations you're making against the 35:34 preclude some kick. He gives the go. It was explained that 35:37 so people knows what that particular phrase means does 35:42 all jumped in when with had animals to keep the animals, 35:47 the oxen going forward. They had a chain with the ball on 35:52 it. The had all these little metal p***** and it just would 35:56 gently 35:57 bump them and keep them going. But if they kick against the 36:01 p*****, they were going to get one done. And that's what it is 36:04 for us when we 36:06 >> ignore the Holy Spirit. Let's put this in context with 36:09 Paul Paul Paul. When he was saw he 36:12 he had to have times when he was confronted by something 36:16 that challenge him when he's holding the coat so that people 36:19 could stone, Stephen, he had to be looking at Stevens thinking, 36:22 what is it that motivates him to be praying, father, forgive 36:26 them and move ahead to be wearing on him a little by 36:29 little by little these things are prodding him prodding and 36:32 prodding him toward the point where he can have this 36:34 experience. Even. Yeah, his Bible verses the but we don't 36:38 get the son of emphasis. 36:39 >> Where Senate bounds, he said yeah, more much more out there. 36:44 So if we're processing Christian experience from that 36:46 perspective, if we're processing, I failed, I fallen. 36:50 This crisp is difficult not to know. 36:52 We're sitting abounds. Grace does much more about if we 36:56 process that process that never thinking our whole religious 36:59 framework changes grace is more powerful than the holy spirit 37:04 is more powerful than the flash. So enrollments 5 times 37:08 Galatians 5 talks about the flash lasting into the spirit 37:12 and you can't do the things you want to do. A lot of people 37:15 read that. They say all I can do the good things they want to 37:17 because of pressure so strong was no, no, no, no. The holy 37:20 spirit is so strong that your flash can do it. It's one of 37:23 the day the flesh is stronger than the spirit. And so we can 37:26 say with confidence. What in the Christian experience that 37:31 when we understand and believe the gospel, it's easier to be 37:33 safe than it is to be lost and God is grace has made it hard 37:36 for the headless were people that it's because salvation is 37:39 a gift that we say this to you at home. 37:42 >> Adam and Eve with mace. And when cent penetrated God's 37:47 spirit of righteousness, 37:49 there was nothing. They they lost their spiritual innocent 37:53 movie. And once that spiritual innocence, it's just like if we 37:57 lose our physical and since there's no way man can be 38:00 stored and that's why God instituted this substitution 38:04 Arie sacrificial system. He had this planned before the 38:08 World Bank and the Lamb who was slain from the foundation of 38:11 the world. So the point is there's absolutely nothing. 38:16 I say 64 6 is that 38:19 you invest x your best righteousness is like filthy 38:23 rags before the Lord. I used to work so hard trying to be 38:27 perfect for God. And I felt like I had to perform. 38:30 Do I do? 38:32 But when I understood salvation by grace righteousness, my fate 38:37 when I understood it was Scott could work in me, too. Willing 38:40 to do is good pleasure. It was a gift. 38:44 A totally different is OK. 38:46 >> And and and Jesus, you know, when when he was in judge up to 38:50 12, 38:51 he was so sure that that his work would be so compelling 38:57 that he said, 38:59 and I if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all 39:03 peoples to myself when I'm 39:06 and when that when he was on the cross and they would Jerry 39:09 at him, we had at this evidence of the 2 groups to do one 39:13 kicking against the goats and the other one yielding and 39:16 submitting to the love of God. The 2 thieves on the cross. 39:19 The one thief accepted the gift in Christ and the other one 39:23 just kept swearing in and so forth. So but I think the Jesus 39:29 on the cross demonstrated why it is hard to be lost if we 39:33 surrender ourselves, that to the 39:37 condescension. 39:39 >> That he went through. I think it's easy to be safe. 39:42 Kind of a little medical illustration here. Some of us 39:45 have probably had something called an MRI stands for 39:47 magnetic resonance imaging. When you get an MRI, they make 39:50 you take off every single metallic object on your body 39:53 because if you don't, that magnet is so strong. You have a 39:56 pen in your pocket, a little flatter your pocket going to 39:59 the magnitude. If you've got to watch a little actually pull 40:01 your arm into the magnet. God's love is like MRI Mag. 40:06 Yeah. Yeah. You have to resist his love in order to not be 40:10 saved is God's drawing. You will see the Holy Spirit with 40:14 the revelation of his love. His character's goodness to 40:16 drive you to himself. He's like that in my magnet. You have to 40:19 resist that force and we're going to be lost. And that was 40:22 that was with Jones and Wagner were emphasizing to us as a 40:25 church. God's love has made it hard for people to be lost. 40:29 >> And and there's a quote that Ellen White House, I didn't 40:32 bring it. I know you guys know. You know what I want to you is 40:36 the one about 40:37 the last link. The service. The Angels are concerned. 40:41 The last link of some link of sympathy that the Angels had 40:46 first for for loose of food was broken at the crossing. It's 40:49 that powerful. The last link and it was for everyone from 40:54 the hearts of the Angels was erased. Any lawyer to what so 40:57 ever too. 40:58 >> Just to save the world is waiting for the last week of 41:01 sympathy to be broken arms. Yeah, we haven't gotten the 41:04 crosses that powerful move. But 41:06 >> see the thing that people forget sometimes when Jesus 41:09 took on our flash, yes. Did you know that he took that 41:12 flashback to heaven? Yes, it was glorified, but now he sits 41:18 in heaven as the last. Adam, a new representative of mankind 41:25 is our high priest. He says limited himself to yes from 41:31 being on the present except through the Holy Spirit. 41:35 Ephesians 3.17, says he lives in our hearts and by faith 41:39 through the Holy Spirit, but 41:42 not only humiliated himself for a short time like this on 41:46 earth. He's going to have a way. Yes, that's our creative. 41:51 Yes, it's Monday. And was it when you think of that kind of, 41:55 you know, all of us stand and only women on? Yeah, he did. 41:59 And the SA must, you know, in some chipped to 8 my favorite 42:02 sums, he says. 42:05 >> When I consider the heavens the the work a few hands, 42:08 the creation of the thing made. What is meant that you mindful 42:11 of him in on the set of mad that you visit him and that 42:15 visit 42:16 was the incarnation of Jesus Christ do. And his whole 42:20 ministry thought his life and the cross. He was the 42:23 sovereign of the universe, the creator the Almighty created, 42:28 and he humbled himself to come down here and tabernacle with 42:32 human beings who has just in Bloom David's mind as he 42:36 thought about that, and then we should blow our minds to. 42:40 >> All right. As keep going forward here, we've got a 42:42 couple of questions that of men that sneak in here in a minute. 42:45 But 42:46 let's talk about 42:48 the I think the reason that people we checked got slump. 42:53 Well, first, there's a pitiful teaching on Hale who, you know, 42:57 God doesn't want anyone to separate the second death. 43:01 You know, he is not going to I just got to doing certain on 43:04 that today. Every morning, his servant. What does the Bible 43:07 say about how God is is crying out to us? 43:13 Turn turn from their wicked ways. Why should you die 43:17 Tuesday says that, no, you know, God doesn't want anyone 43:21 to be lost as well as Peter. But here's the point. 43:25 I do have a point somewhere. If we don't understand his 43:33 slot, there are people who believe that God is partial. 43:35 Yeah, yeah. The Bible says just the office and per show if we 43:39 don't understand he died 43:42 for you, 43:44 you you are worth nothing less than the price he paid for you 43:48 with his was she a slight lead. That's the value God puts on 43:52 your life. 43:53 So if you don't understand, that's what people reject. 43:57 They think. Oh, I'm not good enough. Not all of us are good. 44:00 And that, yeah, I mean, with none of this, make it 44:05 talk about this, 44:07 the idea of Harper it repentance, because here's the 44:12 question that came and everybody. 44:16 Well, let's go. Let's go through these 3 questions. 44:18 Real quick. If Jesus is the savior of the whole world, 44:21 does that mean everyone will be safe? 44:25 >> No, and I think that's a good question because these 2 44:28 statements are in Congress. Jesus can be right now the 44:31 savior of the world, right? Everyone is living today 44:35 because of what Jesus has done. He is that you mentioned 44:37 Genesis Chapter 3, right? Jesus doesn't intervene at that 44:41 point. The human race, the system is just bad. I'm 44:43 experienced a consequence. The center right away. The 44:46 humor is not here. So in that instant, when when the land was 44:49 slain from the foundation of the world, Jesus literally save 44:52 the world. So we can all every single person that humans can 44:55 say Jesus as my savior today. Now because God is a gentleman 44:59 he loves and cares about us and for and love is based on 45:02 freedom will hope he gives us the freedom to to not want to 45:05 spend eternity with him. So every doesn't end up in 45:08 heaven. Not because God didn't do enough to save them because 45:11 they reject that they'd rather cease to exist fraternity the 45:14 fraternity with God. 45:16 >> But that the decision was entirely upon them. God has 45:20 made it clear that he has done everything possible to save 45:23 everyone of us. Yes. 45:24 >> Here, here's the way. I'd say he got as they come in 45:26 and making covenant keeping God. He makes all the promises. 45:31 He keeps help the process. 45:33 He invites us. Like I said, Grace wrote the check. Faith 45:38 takes it to the bank. He invites us to enter into 45:41 covenant with him and if we refuse, if we reject his left 45:46 eye, I don't want to be and gotten it with you. 45:49 >> I would like to say it is the reason peaceably won't be 45:52 in heaven is not because God won't let the Mets right. 45:54 It's because they don't want to be there. What is it this way? 45:57 She says the wickets exclusion from heaven is voluntary with 46:01 themselves. Yes, and they want to be and have instead chosen. 46:04 Pat Milton says in Paradise Lost Satan speaking. Satan says 46:08 I'd rather be a king and held in a servant in Heaven. Yeah, 46:12 people are lost. Don't want to serve other people in God's 46:15 kingdom forever. They'd rather cease to exist and have to 46:17 serve other people for the people serve got fraternity. 46:20 >> I think like we said, you know, the majority spend a 46:24 gift. God has given us an incredible gift. But let me 46:27 just read first on 5. So first on up to 5, I'll just give us 46:32 10 movie to this 11. 46:36 What was 12 he who believes in the son of God has the witness 46:42 in himself. 46:43 He who does not believe God has made him a liar because he is 46:48 not believe the testimony that God has given of the sun. 46:53 And this is the testimony that God has given us eternal life. 46:58 Who's the U.S. and this life is in his son. 47:03 He was the son has life. 47:05 He who does not have the sun does not have life. 47:09 I think this is where we have the idea that, you know, 47:12 the testimonies God has given us eternal life. That's the 47:15 fact of the matter. But this eternal life is innocent. 47:18 If you have the same kind of like got the sun, if you have 47:22 sun, you have life. If you don't have the sun, you don't 47:24 have to like the whole council of true for many of the got 47:28 milk commercial, Yahoo. 47:29 >> Yeah. If you look at this and you've got a life and 47:32 you've got to get this, if you missed the question behind of 47:34 goes in there. But the mask does the righteousness of 47:37 Christ in our position in him proceed or depend on our faith 47:41 in Christ. It seems to me genuine faith is only possible 47:46 if God first makes known to me my position in Christ. 47:50 >> Yeah, that's a really good question. So even as subtly we 47:55 can turn righteousness by faith into my faith, doing something 47:59 to change gods attitude toward me. And so 48:04 there's the concept of the faith of Jesus in Sumter, 48:07 Bible, translations of the modern translations translate 48:10 the as faith 48:12 in Jesus, which is putting the emphasis on us, putting our 48:16 faith in Jesus. But the King James has translated that 48:20 correctly when it says it's the faith of Jesus and Jesus lived 48:23 by faith. He is the author of Faith. It was a it was by faith 48:28 that he went to the cross. He could not see through the 48:31 portals of the 2 in yet he decided it made a decision that 48:35 he would trust his father, even though that did not look like 48:38 he would ever exist again. He was one to make that 48:42 sacrifice by faith by faith he saw. So if my faith, my 48:48 salvation and my righteousness depends upon my faith, which is 48:52 weak, it fails, 48:55 that becomes legal isn't in itself, but of my salvation. 48:59 And my righteousness depends upon his fame in because of his 49:03 faith. That causes a heartfelt appreciation to my heart. 49:07 And that response to that day by faith that he gives me that 49:11 that's a perfect faith. That is the faith of Jesus lived out in 49:14 my life. And that's a faith that has never failed. 49:16 >> And that's that's the 30 inches message that this is 49:20 something that you don't to wait or talked about a lot of 49:23 Jesus. And we should have been more emphasis on this because 49:25 it's actually the end of the 3rd Angels message, right 49:28 relation 14 to all says. Here's the patience of the 49:30 Saints here. Are they who keep the Commandments of God and the 49:34 faith? Oh, Jesus. Yeah. Not merely faith in Jesus but they 49:39 keep the faith of you in critical distinction. Yes. 49:42 >> I'm a bit of text. Haha. Sure. And it's galatians 49:47 shifted to was 20 because this concept White says there are 49:50 several quotes up. But White says that we have talked about 49:54 the Commandments of God, but the faith of Jesus has been 49:57 left in a strange land collected. Yes, this neglect, 50:01 but it is up powerful concept and the only way that we can 50:04 live. So Paul says into the place, he says it also and 50:07 Philip inched up to 3 was 89, but English is tempted to those 50:11 20. He says, I have been crucified with Christ. And so I 50:15 think 50:16 first of all, one of the most difficult things we can do is 50:20 to reach to surrender ourselves to Christ crucified with Christ 50:25 deputies. 50:26 You know, we're not in control of arts stuff anymore. So he 50:30 says I've been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who 50:33 live, 50:34 but Christ lives in May and the life which I now live in the 50:38 flesh. I live by the faith of the son of God who loved me and 50:43 give himself for me. So Paula, saying 50:47 the only way I can live is by the faith of the son of God, 50:51 my faith will fail me, but his faith will not. And and faith 50:55 is something he gives to us his faith he gives to us and that 50:59 faith 51:00 is what is alleged to be to be 51:04 to be transformed. 51:06 >> Yeah, yes, I was praying this weekend and I've been 51:10 reading in Daniel all work if need faith. Daniel who was off 51:16 say Daniel had it 51:18 and all of the said. Nice hit. 51:21 >> No hard. The man who greatest day. Yeah. Yeah. 51:26 Earth was the man Christ. Yeah. Or give? Maybe yeah of. 51:32 Yeah, yes, yes. And so that helps put it in perspective. 51:37 Perhaps that 51:39 what we're asking God for us working us. Help us to develop 51:45 that every step of the way. He's yeah. Yeah. Yeahs a faith 51:49 that has never felt yes. Even though it's going through 51:52 the crucible of the worst test that could never be imaginable. 51:56 He has been an Ellen Weiss says. 51:58 >> In the reserve is that by Faith? Weis was the victim. 52:02 Yes, and you don't you don't recognize in gets some money. 52:05 Yes, the the what does she say? The fate of the entire world 52:10 was hanging in the balance is the only by faith whose quest 52:13 was clear to the ground asking to let the cup pass from him 52:17 and heat. If you look at some, 22, he had to recall 52:23 how his father had let him in the past. He grabs hold of 52:26 that. And by face he said, okay, I was surrounded by self 52:31 is so good. But by faith you was the boys said that and 52:34 that's why he pushed up to 12 tells us you have not done 52:37 anything. Christ was striving onto blood. That's the faith of 52:41 Jesus. And then that's the faith he wants to gift us. 52:44 Yeah, and in function. 52:46 >> Here's a question that you hear once in a while. Why are 52:50 we still hear the U.S. is finished the work on the cross? 52:54 >> And that's a great question. Haha, because it's not just to 52:58 work for us. It's a work in the U.S. will. 53:01 >> And then in Windy City finish when he cried out, 53:04 they just finished. He's talking about this plan for the 53:08 for the sacrifice. But as you said, then there is he's 53:14 continuing his ministry 10 in that the crime, yes keepers to 53:19 says he became just like us. He purrs forces. He's 53:22 ministering as our high priest. He invites us to come before 53:27 he's thrown and grace. Go ahead. 53:30 >> What we mentioned earlier that at the cross young-looking 53:37 universe 53:38 had no sympathy whatsoever any longer for the double team. 53:43 But there are many of us here today that still have sympathy. 53:46 Yes, that in in Areva toast, understanding of prophecy. 53:50 We understand that at the very time of the end that we see on 53:54 a 2,300 days, which is an 18. 44, that because the time of 53:57 the end, when Christ does something with his last day, 54:02 people to hold up the character of Christ before the world in 54:05 such a way, the that chain that link will be broken so that we 54:10 won't have sympathy either. And at that point, 54:13 >> they can come to an end. This brings up another 54:15 important point safety message which gets to our motivation. 54:18 You know, why are we doing Christianity? What is it this 54:22 way? It is not the fear of punishment where the hope of 54:25 ever lasting reward Elisa Disciples of Christ. A fellow 54:28 man to hear the saviors voices manifested from manger in 54:32 Bethlehem to coverage cross the hear his voice, the side of him 54:35 tracks through the years. Why should they follow him? 54:37 Yes. And and so so God has made claims about us, right? That 54:43 says they will serve me not just because we're going to get 54:45 a reward for benefits because they love me. They look like 54:48 him. I love my principles. And Satan says no, no, no, 54:51 no. Just like Joe, they're serving you just because what 54:54 they get effect. Jane is saying they're serving you because of 54:57 what they get out of it there surfing for selfish reasons. 55:00 So they're actually doing religion based on my principles 55:05 and God says no, the gospel is so powerful or elation across 55:09 as so powerful. They will serve me and love not their lives to 55:12 the death and its relation to 12. So so the the to minister 55:16 to the Gulf is meant to shift our motivational paradigms for 55:19 one of self-interest and self-preservation to concern 55:23 for God's reputation contents and for those around us. 55:26 And as as Moses said, even if it yet, you know, you I can be 55:30 kept out of God's kingdom if these people can be saved. 55:33 Yes, let me out of the blue. Yeah, I'm a chapter 9, Paula 55:36 said says I'll be a curse for my brother and cries for 55:39 Christ's sake. Yes. So so these are examples throughout 55:42 biblical history where people actually have their motivation 55:45 and if the pain the concern was and for their salvation but for 55:48 God's honor and salvation round, that's what got Jen and 55:51 Ben, what it okay. So we'll have to there's, of course we 55:54 need to share with you because I think the question all these 55:57 aspects of so important. 55:59 >> And in addition to it, this question brings up a very vital 56:03 issue. And that is, is this just reformation theology or is 56:08 it something different? Does it is it Christ our righteousness 56:12 in in time setting? And we have, quote, that would 56:15 demonstrate that that the goal of salvation, the goal of of 56:20 God's work in our lives, it not just to forgive us, but it is a 56:24 clear interest of our righteousness. So what we see 56:28 the reformation with a certain a certain distance. But then 56:32 the message that was given to Ellen White joins in Wagner 56:35 joined that Ruth about justification by faith 56:39 retrospect, 5th Crystal Wright just missed with the end time 56:42 cleansing of the central message. And as we look at 56:44 that, quote, We see how that was join together. So he 56:47 doesn't just want forgiveness center of the pen and he 56:51 watched righteousness to rein in our lives. He wants to rid 56:55 our hearts and minds of any intent or desire to sun. 56:58 And that's what's going on in this hostage. Does that. 57:01 >> Those whole plan is to re store or right, Jess? Yes, 57:07 I can tell that this is Sydney picks up the healthy, Rick's 57:11 getting excited to that. It is a live. You can send us 57:14 your questions at 6, 1, 8, 2, 2, 8, 3, 9, 7, 5, or you can 57:22 email us at. 57:23 >> At live at the AB and that TV once again, text 57:28 618-228-3975, to get some more questions here or I live at 3, 57:36 a B in TV. We're going to take just a short break. We'll be 57:40 right back. 57:41 [MUSIC] 57:46 [MUSIC] 57:51 [MUSIC] 57:56 [MUSIC] |
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