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>> Hello and welcome to
another 3 ABN Today Live special
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program. We're so glad to
be in your living room or maybe
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you're driving your car listing
to 3ABN radio. We always look
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forward to spending these 2
hours with you. One reason is
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because you're part of
the 3 ABN family. And and Joe,
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we've been looking forward
to this program for a while this
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evening.
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>> We have indeed we have,
of course, Danielle Van Shelton
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with us coasting with us. I
lied about that. But we also
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have some special guest
joining us via Skype. They're
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incredibly busy and could
not be here in studio with us
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tonight. But if you saw on
the wide shot, you saw there
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joining us virtually that
is the advantage of technology.
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And we have heard we
have with us tonight.
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>> We have a general conference
president of 7 to having us and
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the elder. Ted Wilson,
of course, is a lovely wife.
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Nancy, with us this evening
and many times, Mister Danny
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Doctor, Yvonne, they've
been able to join us here on the
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set. Yes evening. They haven't
were not able to but praise the
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Lord for Technology
Nest. There it is. Great.
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>> And elder Wilson and
sister Nancy. I was talking to
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Catholic friend of mine just a
couple days ago on it said what
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your schedule this weekend
as one of the things will be
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interviewing the president of
the General Conference and he's
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like, well, how would that
be related? That's it's kind of
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like you're pope. So he's
not up but is the head of our
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church. Haha, that's right.
We'll make that clear. He said,
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oh, I understand that. Now
I understand as well, weird.
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You know, so, but anyway, I
thought does little humorous.
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But the truth is that is
a privilege to have you as a
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world leader. We've been
supportive 3 a ban of you and
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your work for many, many years.
And sister Nancy, for what you
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guys do for the cause of God,
God has called you for such an
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hour's this really a B and 100%
or more of possible behind you.
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We pray for you and support
you and we believe God has you
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exactly where he wants you in
these closing moments of verses
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strict. Thank you for both
of you for what you do for the
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cause and got then.
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>> It's a great, great
privilege to be with you,
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Greg in jail and Danny and the
van. Just wonderful to be able
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to talk about
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last day events and what
God is doing all over the world
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and how things are wrapping up
quickly and what an opportunity
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for 7th. They add that this is
stand up and be great defenders
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of God's truth. We're going
to get into all that. But I just
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want to say what a privilege
it is to be with you and the
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strong support that 3 ABN gives
not only to the church itself
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but to the message,
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the Bible message that God has
entrusted to us. Thank you so
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much as lore.
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>> Amen. It's an incredible
privilege for us to spend these
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2 hours with you just talking
together. We believe, as you
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mentioned in them message
that's founded the word of God
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that was believed by 7th Day
Adventists. And we do. We pray
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for you both, Greg and I
pray for you many times. We know
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that your responsibilities are
large, but the Lord says Steyn
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view. So I just want to mention
Nancy tell we mentioned on a
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roll since title is president
of the General Conference of
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7th they have in us and
sister Nancy, you are protocol
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consultant. I want to know what
that means. But I also think
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another title could be
Manna has a very nice. I don't a
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little bit about what protocol
consultant means and also by
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family.
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>> Well,
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I don't know where to start a
protocol specialists. They were
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trying to figure out how to
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describe what I do.
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>> I do a lot with
people who are coming in.
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>> 2 more care
for the first time
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and we open our home
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and it's very traumatic. I
think when you we have many
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people from overseas
and even if you are from
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America, it's
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when you come to a place this
large, it can you can feel lost
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and like you're not part of a
family. So we do everything we
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can to help them settle in
to learn their way around and to
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feel like we are a family. So
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it was tough during COVID
because we couldn't socialize,
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but we're very happy that
we can get together now and
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just enjoy each other's
company. It's it's usually the
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wives to come because they
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they may wear care, but they
may not. And so they need the
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socialization. They
get to know each other.
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And so it's it
has a lot to do with
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helping people from outside
who are coming in to feel
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comfortable to feel like they
belong and they are part of our
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family.
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So and when we do have them
show, I tell them what your job
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is. Time and well, one of my
hat, Tad is the Butler. Haha.
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And he wears a white shirt
and a black tie and he has this
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white cloth over his arm to
it. He serves the ladies and
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it's then love it. He helps
clean up the kitchen. He is.
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He's on duty as the butler.
Whenever he's in town and we do
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this so
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we will enjoy it.
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But we have 3 daughters and 3
sons in law who have given us.
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We now have 10 grandchildren, 5
grandsons and 5 grand daughters
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and life is so
interesting and wonderful.
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>> They make the world go
round and we we learn from our
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children and our
grandchildren and we love.
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We love being Manny and Poppy.
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>> Yeah, yeah.
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All right. But they're
growing up really fast.
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>> It's so beautiful because
really what you're both saying
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is that you're involved in
service and that's what the law
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that would have us to do
to serve others. And you are,
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you know, here that the
president and first lady and
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you still serving. And I
just think that that is so
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beautiful. That is what Jesus
did. That is what we're to do.
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So we just we we really
appreciate that. We see that
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sense of service in
you and we appreciate that.
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>> Yeah, it's a powerful storm.
You know, it's great to build a
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stand-up in front of people
and preach a sermon. But there's
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also a sermon in shoes.
All right. So do the serve. As
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you're mentioning. You know,
that's beautiful. You know,
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your real, real genuine people.
I've had the opportunity from
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time to time to get to talk
with you as you've been here 3
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than we've been in other
events. We just appreciate your
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genuine this, your love of
people, your love of God in
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your heart for evangelism
and has been mentioned already.
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Again, we support you and
the efforts that you're doing.
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And again, we pray for you
many, many times and there were
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so thankful for what you're
doing and God is called the for
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such a time as this and
to Wilson. I know that we're
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living in some amazing times
right now. You can kind of see
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things wrapping up. Want to
talk to us about that in the in
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the global vision of
the 7th avenues church.
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>> Well, thank you, Greg.
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It is a real privilege to serve
as has been already indicated.
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We don't just live
in a kind of a bubble
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that kind of
bureaucratic setting.
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We live in a real world
and it's just a privilege to be
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able to see what God is doing
to help and assist where we
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can.
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One of the
challenges that we see is that
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some people
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are very aware of
the urgency of time,
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the times in which
we're living. Others
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seem to be maybe
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annoyed or concerned about
certain things because it's not
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moving the way they would like
it, but they don't understand
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why things are happening.
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And one of the biggest things
that that we are noticing as we
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travel the world and and maybe
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later on in the
program, we'll get into
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recent trip that we took a 3
and a half week trip, which was
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a grueling trip, probably one
of the most grueling trips we
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have taken, not from the
standpoint of difficult places
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to stay and lack of food
and all that. But time lies.
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Just one appointment
after another, you know, getting
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sleep 5, 6, hours a night if
that which is not good health
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reform, but this was in
Africa and we'll get into that.
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But when we when we see things
happening all around the world,
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we see that
there is in some people
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the appropriate sense of urgency
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that we are living in the
very end of time. And I mean,
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all of us, he just
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look at juror
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your own news feed that you
prefer each morning or during
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the day and you will see
everything around this world.
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I mean, just about everything
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this integrated getting
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worst, getting frayed at
the edges. Things are not solid.
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I mean, even the most
recent situations regarding bank
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difficulties and fame years,
I mean, you know, you just don't
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know what's going to come
around the corner in the next
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day. And so the urgency of
the times is something that
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we are really
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trying to focus upon and
encourage our church members to
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understand.
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>> The prophecies in Daniel in
revelation are so appropriate.
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So current so
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contemporary
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that they ought to be paying
attention to these prophetic
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messages. And then, you know,
Matthew, 24, which is Christ's
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amazing indication of
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the last days and what to
expect. I mean, you could make
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15 sermons out of just that
one chapter. I mean, it's just
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incredible. But when you see
that in Matthew, 24 in verse 5,
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it says people are going
to come saying I'm the Christ,
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I will try and help you out.
Well, they're going to deceive
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many people who don't know the
word of God. And that's another
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area that we really need
to emphasize is the accuracy,
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the absolute voracity, the U.S.
14 of the word of God, the word
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of God, as it reads, being able
to understand God's word and
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saying that's what
he is wanting us to do
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this misinterpretation of
this or that? Well, you know,
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you have to come from it
in this context. You don't
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understand what it was like
then. You know, now we're in a
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different age and on and on.
We can get into that as well.
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What my real point in beginning
our conversation here today is
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that the sense of urgency
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we see on the part of many
members around the world who
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have become so enthralled with
the pressure is good news that
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Jesus Christ has
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save does through his power is
justifying righteousness and he
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is sanctified right, just
and so that every day and we're
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learning to be more and
more like Christ. We are all
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centers. We all need to come
to the foot of the cross every
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day. But his righteousness is
there, too, to pull us through
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and to cover us and also
to help us to become more like
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him. And this sense of urgency
is something which I think we
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are seeing more and more of
in many people and less and less
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in others. So there is this
this divide that is developing
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and it all comes down in my
opinion, 2 year relationship
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with Christ
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and his word Christ is
the living word. This is his
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written word and
mom that hangs so much.
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>> Of how we interpret the
world. Our world view so its
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7th Day
Adventists. And I'm hoping
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all 7th Day Adventists,
although there are those who
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have different ideas, very
different ideas. But Scripture
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says, you know, people are
going to come saying I'm the
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Christ and they're going to
deceive people. If you don't
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know what this word says
and they're going to be wars and
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rumors of wars, you know, our
our hearts go out to our dear
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people in Eastern Europe
and Ukraine, the the things that
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are developing in such a
dramatic way. I just want a
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little vignette about Ukraine.
We just had the interview with
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the Ukrainian
officers yesterday.
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>> And they lost about well
over 8 1000 of our members left
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for other parts of the
world when the war began.
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But you want to know something
interesting about 8,000 people
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are now taking their
place, their places in churches,
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not all of them members yet.
So that churches on Sabbath in
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Ukraine are absolutely packed
packed with people. I mean,
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and God is doing amazing
things through our people there.
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I suppose. I mean, I can just
keep on going talking to the
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next 2 hours, but
we need the dialogue,
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the sense of urgency in the
sense of understanding Matthew,
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24 and going to be earthquakes
and famines and false prophets
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deception.
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I tell you today there is
so much deception, especially
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about what the word of God
actually says. And we'll get
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into that and a little bit
as we addressed some of these
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things. But first, 24
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tells us false crisis and false
prophets will arise and show
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great signs and wonders to
deceive if possible. Even the
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elect. Even the people who say,
well, I know Christ, I know the
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Bible, even those people
will be deceived if they are not
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constantly, depending on the
lord in everything. And then he
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says in verse. 25, this is
all Jesus speaking says, see,
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I have told you before hand.
So the sense of urgency needs
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to come out of our
understanding of what Christ
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has already told us and how he
is leading us today. I'm going
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to stop there because it we
could go on and on. And we will
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as we get into other subjects.
But I'm just so excited about
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the sense of urgency that
we see in so many people around
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the world.
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>> Amen. That's so exciting to
see that urgency and see people
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catch the vision that Jesus is
coming soon. As we look at the
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text you just referenced there
in Matthew. 24, you think about
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the deception that was sweeps
the world at the end of time,
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you think about the world
we live in of relativism and no
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absolutes and that
there is no biblical standard.
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How do we get people whether
their 7th day Adventists or non
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7th, they happen to us to
accept the validity and the
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voracity of the word of God.
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>> The the word of God can
be shown to be true in many
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different ways. First of all.
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>> Prophetic
utterances, prophecies that have
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been shared, especially
let's take one that one of my
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favorite topics is Daniel
Chapter 2 and the progression
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of Kingdoms, which can
be absolutely verified.
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Historically,
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you know, some people say,
oh, well, this was written after
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all of those events as somehow
Daniel's name got on there.
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But, you know, this is I mean,
people rationalize all kinds of
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things. But when you really
look scripture and understand
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the historical aspects,
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you can absolutely count on
these amazing prophecies that
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are that are so true. I'm
going to have the opportunity of
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preaching again, an
evangelistic meeting in the
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month of May. Nancy will be
joining me. She's going to do
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that health part and that
he has her own thoughts on
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biblical aspects. And I hope
she will share here in terms of
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how do we get people to
understand the authority of
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scripture.
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But let me just say that it
also comes about when we allow
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the word
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to be interpreted by itself.
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So in other words, we say
verse upon verse line upon line,
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let precept upon precept, let
the Bible interpret itself and
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through the power of the Holy
Spirit. We understand what the
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Bible is saying.
Too many people today
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want to say,
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and this is the historical
critical method coming into
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full blossom because 7th
Day Adventists believe in the
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historical grammatical or it's
also called historical biblical
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way of interpretation. When
you allow verse upon verse line
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upon line, when you allow
the the word of God to interpret
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itself, then you understand
better what God is saying when
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you take the historical
critical method and it is
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becoming
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I'm very sorry to say this,
but it is becoming much more
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prevalent even in the 7th
they have this church. When you
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allow the historical
critical method to take
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ascendancy,
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you then become the determiner
of what is truth and what is
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not truth. It's almost
like you are like one of our
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illustrious, the presidents
of the United States, the 3rd
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President, Thomas
Jefferson. He was a deist
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and he didn't believe in
all the miracles much. And so he
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had his own Bible and clipped
out portions which didn't seem
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to be logical to him. I
mean, he's a great man. I'm not
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diminishing him as an
individual, but he didn't
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understand the word of God.
Today people are choosing to
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mis interpreted.
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I'm saying this in turn, Brent,
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they're taking the advantage
to say, oh, no, we have all the
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resources today. Those poor
people back then they didn't
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understand things. We're
much more well informed today.
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Therefore, we can interpret
what the Bible says according
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to what we think it ought to
say. And they will take tax and
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turned the tax on their heads
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complete be disregarding what
the actual word says and we'll
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get into that in a few moments.
But I think that he has her
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convictions on this, too.
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>> I think one way to share
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our own personal testimony.
I think there's nothing as
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powerful as a personal testimony
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and many people are fearful
right now because they don't
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understand what's
happening around us.
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And that's the
beauty of scripture because
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truth never changes
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truth. Is that the same
from the beginning of time until
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now? And we
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we are at peace knowing
that God is still in control.
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I find it of people.
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I would just read and
understand that God is such a
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personal God.
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And scripture
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is very portable for today and
how we live our lives because
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Jesus
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loves us so much that he wants
us to have the abundant life to
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be happy to be
joyful, to have peace.
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And we can do that only as
we embrace our personal God,
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whom we trust
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and we know wants
only the best for us.
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So I think if people would even,
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you know, they may they may
be skeptics that if they would
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just say
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God, if you're there, I want
to believe in you prove yourself
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and in open the book and read
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with an open mind can see
all of those verses that just
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exude with Christ's love for us
and that he has a plan for our
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life.
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There's something practical
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versus, you know, God says a
man plans his way, but it's the
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lord to Tareq says steps,
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you know, they're on my
list or your personal messages.
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>> And is it that somebody
will give the libel chance the
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Bible?
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Well, it's just, you know, it's
it's writings, OK, it's it's
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it's on paper. It's it's
electronic or whatever. But it
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is really the representation of
the living word, Jesus Christ.
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And he's speaking
to us in a way that
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will change lives. So if people
will give a chance the chance
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to the Bible in reading it
and understanding it will change
00:23:09.25\00:23:13.66
your life
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for the better.
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And that's another great proof
as to the power of the word of
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God as being truthful, the
voracity of the Bible, the the
00:23:21.63\00:23:28.20
need to accept the Bible as it
reads, because there's so much
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hope and promise in there
and instruction instruction that
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may not be easy to take, but
the Holy spirit can help us to
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understand this is going
to change my life through the
00:23:41.32\00:23:44.65
power or of God in the word and
the Holy spirit working in our
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lives.
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>> And then I'd like to ask
you another question about the
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spirit of prophecy. It's a
unique to the 7th Day Adventist
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Church in the sense that one
of the identifying marks of the
00:23:59.83\00:24:04.71
remnant church as the spirit
of prophecy. Yet a lot of people
00:24:04.71\00:24:09.28
today even within the church
say, well, that was a lot of
00:24:09.28\00:24:12.58
that stuff threaten 150 years
ago. It's not relevant today.
00:24:12.58\00:24:16.22
What about the violent
viability and importance of the
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spirit of
prophecy in today's world?
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>> Yeah, good. I
was just going to say
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when I read the
spirit of prophecy
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some many times, I think
it's like Ellen White sent me an
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email this morning.
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It is. So it is so relevant to
what is going on in our world.
00:24:35.90\00:24:42.31
I'm thinking she releases 100
years ago or more, but it is so
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uplift Abul. So
00:24:47.95\00:24:50.15
it's
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it's just it's a miracle,
really. I mean, it's such a
00:24:52.72\00:24:56.22
gift
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and it just is in sync
with scripture. But we know the
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Bible comes first. But one
as we read her, we are drawn to
00:25:02.16\00:25:05.90
scripture.
00:25:05.90\00:25:07.37
And when we read
them together is just
00:25:07.37\00:25:10.67
it's the it's the
richest experience possible.
00:25:10.67\00:25:15.11
>> For those who are members
of the 7th day of this church,
00:25:15.11\00:25:19.18
they know about the spirit
of prophecy in the writings of
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Ellen White that we believe
she was inspired. The spirit of
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prophecy is not to take the
place of the Bible. It is not
00:25:27.46\00:25:30.89
the Bible, but it is inspired
just as those prophets of old
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were inspired by the same
inspiration by and messages
00:25:37.67\00:25:42.34
from the throne of Heaven.
So I believe that the spirit of
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prophecy that we have and
the volumes of material, our
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instructions that come directly
from the throne room of God and
00:25:50.41\00:25:53.85
one of the greatest gifts
given to the 7th, they have this
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church and all who will read
them. We're having a week of
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prayer here at the
General Conference headquarters,
00:26:01.19\00:26:04.56
a debt that bachelor Pastor
Bachelor of Amazing Facts is
00:26:04.56\00:26:08.36
presenting the Week of Prayer.
And he even made reference this
00:26:08.36\00:26:13.80
morning because I introduced
him. And then later on in his
00:26:13.80\00:26:17.47
presentation was a wonderful
presentation. The whole theme
00:26:17.47\00:26:21.91
is.
00:26:21.91\00:26:22.74
>> Come.
00:26:22.74\00:26:24.01
>> 2 to God, come to the father
come to Christ and the Holy
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Spirit so that we can go.
In other words, we're going to
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be filled and
then we have a mission.
00:26:31.89\00:26:34.26
But he was making reference
to the fact that and some of you
00:26:34.26\00:26:38.69
who know Pastor Bachelor, he
was anything but base. But it
00:26:38.69\00:26:43.03
wasn't anything. But a
Christian really was living in
00:26:43.03\00:26:45.47
a cave. He was
searching for truth
00:26:45.47\00:26:48.90
and he read
00:26:48.90\00:26:50.71
the great controversy which was
written by Ellen White inspired
00:26:50.71\00:26:56.88
by haven't
00:26:56.88\00:26:58.11
it changed his life. He read
many other books, prophets and
00:26:58.11\00:27:01.88
kings patriarchs and prophets
acts of the apostles. These
00:27:01.88\00:27:05.85
things changed his life and
drew him to full Bible truth.
00:27:05.85\00:27:11.33
Now, a lot of people who
00:27:11.33\00:27:13.43
are familiar with the spirit
of prophecy and maybe have a
00:27:13.43\00:27:17.47
negative impression about it.
00:27:17.47\00:27:20.27
I would dare say it's been
a long time since they have
00:27:20.27\00:27:23.97
actually read it.
00:27:23.97\00:27:26.34
And when you read it.
00:27:26.34\00:27:28.31
>> You are so inspired.
You are so in foods about the
00:27:28.31\00:27:33.58
instructions given
I just give you one
00:27:33.58\00:27:37.55
one sentence here
00:27:37.55\00:27:39.85
from a book called Welfare
Ministry. I'm reading through
00:27:39.85\00:27:43.09
that and getting
close to the end of it.
00:27:43.09\00:27:45.49
>> And reading and a number
of books from the spirit of
00:27:45.49\00:27:49.26
prophecy. But this one focused
on. And here's one on page 250
00:27:49.26\00:27:56.30
and it says here,
and it's talking about
00:27:56.30\00:27:58.94
gathering people in being
ministering to their needs and
00:27:58.94\00:28:02.88
helping them
drawing them to Christ.
00:28:02.88\00:28:06.15
>> But this sentence typifies
00:28:06.15\00:28:09.75
the Ministry of Christ
and our ministry one sentence,
00:28:09.75\00:28:14.16
it says here on
Page 2.50, he Christ
00:28:14.16\00:28:18.86
ever worked.
00:28:18.86\00:28:20.66
2 number one, relieve suffering
00:28:20.66\00:28:25.17
and number 2,
00:28:25.17\00:28:26.97
teach righteousness
00:28:26.97\00:28:29.77
what you there. You have
the Ministry of Christ. You have
00:28:29.77\00:28:32.44
look for 18 19
00:28:32.44\00:28:35.08
being compassionate, helping
people meeting their needs.
00:28:35.08\00:28:38.71
Community service is outreach
to people, comprehensive health
00:28:38.71\00:28:42.65
ministry, all kinds of ways
to attract people and help them.
00:28:42.65\00:28:48.06
You don't leave it there.
00:28:48.06\00:28:49.72
Jesus then taught
righteousness. He drew them to
00:28:49.72\00:28:54.36
something. The turtle
00:28:54.36\00:28:56.43
that one sentence is perhaps
00:28:56.43\00:28:59.20
the most
00:28:59.20\00:29:00.37
a beautiful explanation of
Jesus ministry that I've seen
00:29:00.37\00:29:05.44
in a long time.
00:29:05.44\00:29:06.78
He ever lived to
relieve suffering,
00:29:06.78\00:29:11.08
teach righteousness
00:29:11.08\00:29:13.35
what a magnificent model for
us. I mean, these kinds of gems
00:29:13.35\00:29:17.92
come only when you actually dig
into them as you dig into the
00:29:17.92\00:29:21.56
word of God as well,
which is our foundation.
00:29:21.56\00:29:26.09
But when you read these
things, you you become inspired,
00:29:26.09\00:29:28.86
you say
00:29:28.86\00:29:31.50
simple and yet, so profound.
So spirit of prophecy not only
00:29:31.50\00:29:36.20
tells us about
00:29:36.20\00:29:38.41
things of future activity, like
the great controversy which we
00:29:38.41\00:29:42.64
now have as our missionary
book for this year. And for next
00:29:42.64\00:29:45.98
year, millions of copies being
distributed, the full volume of
00:29:45.98\00:29:51.19
great controversy and whatever
people have of the great
00:29:51.19\00:29:55.49
Connors controversy
to share with people,
00:29:55.49\00:29:58.59
but many other things that
the spirit of problems, yes,
00:29:58.59\00:30:02.86
Practical Council for families,
for finance, for outreach,
00:30:02.86\00:30:07.74
4 different ministries within
the church for helping us to
00:30:07.74\00:30:12.21
understand our role in these
last days of Earth's history.
00:30:12.21\00:30:16.71
And as he said, it's like
00:30:16.71\00:30:18.71
getting an email. It's
contemporary, just read it and
00:30:18.71\00:30:23.85
God will bless your reading.
00:30:23.85\00:30:27.22
>> You know, you mentioned
the righteousness of Christ over
00:30:27.22\00:30:30.36
Wilson and
00:30:30.36\00:30:31.86
one of the things that many
people have the misconception
00:30:31.86\00:30:37.17
that Adventists are legal
us and that it's about our own
00:30:37.17\00:30:41.64
righteousness and our own right
doing. Would you talk a bit
00:30:41.64\00:30:45.11
about righteousness by
faith and the importance of us
00:30:45.11\00:30:49.11
looking to Christ where
his righteousness and realizing
00:30:49.11\00:30:52.25
that we don't have a home?
00:30:52.25\00:30:55.55
>> Well, that's a magnificent
subject, Doctor, Yvonne,
00:30:55.55\00:30:58.72
and it's it's a hat actually
the very basis. We talk about
00:30:58.72\00:31:04.86
the 3 Angels messages of
revelation 14. And this is a
00:31:04.86\00:31:09.20
special commission given
to Gaza last 8 people to point
00:31:09.20\00:31:13.87
people to the true worship of
God to understanding that he is
00:31:13.87\00:31:19.04
the creator that he is the one
to be worshiped and 2, we are
00:31:19.04\00:31:24.21
to give honor to him. And
that second Angel of Babel in is
00:31:24.21\00:31:29.68
fallen that there is confusion
in the world regarding how to
00:31:29.68\00:31:35.92
worship God and that so much
00:31:35.92\00:31:38.93
personal,
00:31:38.93\00:31:40.50
salvation by works has entered
into the picture and that is
00:31:40.50\00:31:46.57
confusion. That's what babble
and is all about. And then too
00:31:46.57\00:31:51.37
stay away from those areas and
those influences that are going
00:31:51.37\00:31:56.44
to lead you into a compromising
situation where you will
00:31:56.44\00:32:01.18
receive the mark of the beast
as opposed to receiving the
00:32:01.18\00:32:04.69
sea. Love God. And we know that
the seal of God is the keeping
00:32:04.69\00:32:08.99
of the 7th Day Sabbath.
The devil hates the Sabbath.
00:32:08.99\00:32:14.00
That's why he's introduced
Sunday worship aberrations
00:32:14.00\00:32:17.97
because he can't stand what the
Sabbath represents. It is God's
00:32:17.97\00:32:22.97
special seal. It is the
commemoration of God's powerful
00:32:22.97\00:32:28.51
ability to create. It is
an indication of his Supremes
00:32:28.51\00:32:34.22
sovereignty and the devil hates
that. So he wants to bring in
00:32:34.22\00:32:38.12
everything possible. But
the very core of the 3 Angels
00:32:38.12\00:32:42.69
messages of revelation, 14,
we are told is the righteousness
00:32:42.69\00:32:47.66
of Jesus Christ that
it is through his grace
00:32:47.66\00:32:52.23
that we are justified made as
if we had never sent his robot.
00:32:52.23\00:32:58.11
Righteousness covers us.
That is a daily experience.
00:32:58.11\00:33:03.11
But beyond that,
00:33:03.11\00:33:04.71
the righteousness of
Christ includes Sanctification,
00:33:04.71\00:33:09.28
which is again, power coming
from heaven, but working in the
00:33:09.28\00:33:14.19
life so that the life can be
changed. You know, you have a
00:33:14.19\00:33:17.99
lot of people today saying, oh,
no, you can't change your just
00:33:17.99\00:33:22.06
who you are. And
that's just the way it is and
00:33:22.06\00:33:25.40
might as well, just thank
the Lord that he saved you, but
00:33:25.40\00:33:28.70
just keep on doing whatever
you're doing. And that is not
00:33:28.70\00:33:33.51
what the Bible teaches. The
Bible teaches. Jesus teaches
00:33:33.51\00:33:37.81
that you can overcome sin
through his power. Otherwise,
00:33:37.81\00:33:43.69
what what's the point? What's
the point of the whole gospel
00:33:43.69\00:33:47.66
message? You're just say that
as some kind of center which we
00:33:47.66\00:33:53.23
are, but then
there's no improvement.
00:33:53.23\00:33:56.36
I mean, that's why
00:33:56.36\00:33:58.53
drunkards become sober. That's
why cheating people become
00:33:58.53\00:34:02.90
honest.
00:34:02.90\00:34:04.11
That's why people who
are confused about truth have
00:34:04.11\00:34:09.31
clarity of mind. The holy
spirit changes you. This is a
00:34:09.31\00:34:14.38
supernatural change that takes
place. Now you become more and
00:34:14.38\00:34:18.69
more like Christ. Philippians
2 says a look at this mine be in
00:34:18.69\00:34:23.53
you. That was in Christ Jesus.
The only way to do that is to
00:34:23.53\00:34:27.96
be in Christ through his power
and then allow the Holy spirit
00:34:27.96\00:34:32.60
to change you. All of this
has to do with Christ justifying
00:34:32.60\00:34:37.21
and sank, defying
righteousness, praise God for
00:34:37.21\00:34:41.41
his righteousness and his
grace, which is the core of the
00:34:41.41\00:34:46.45
3 Angels messages. It is an
amazing aspect. Also for us as
00:34:46.45\00:34:52.09
we come to the end of
time to be able to share this
00:34:52.09\00:34:56.62
liberating understanding that
00:34:56.62\00:34:59.89
in Christ he can
provide us victory
00:34:59.89\00:35:04.03
in his name and then Amen.
00:35:04.03\00:35:06.57
>> Isn't isn't the fact
that some people believe? Well,
00:35:06.57\00:35:11.14
you look, you look at
00:35:11.14\00:35:16.64
a lot of religions, they think
they have to earn their way to
00:35:16.64\00:35:20.78
heaven. And that's the
foundation of all false
00:35:20.78\00:35:24.79
religions is that we have
to up. He's got we have to earn
00:35:24.79\00:35:29.49
our way.
00:35:29.49\00:35:30.83
But
00:35:30.83\00:35:31.99
right, just this by faith comes
when we understand the major
00:35:31.99\00:35:37.27
rubble gift and
the major bull love
00:35:37.27\00:35:40.80
and who God really is
00:35:40.80\00:35:42.94
that he begins to transform us.
We can't we can't do anything
00:35:42.94\00:35:47.78
without
00:35:47.78\00:35:48.88
without God we
we I can do nothing.
00:35:48.88\00:35:52.41
But with him, all things
are possible and it's that
00:35:52.41\00:35:55.78
recognition of his
00:35:55.78\00:35:59.02
unconditional longing
for us and love for us
00:35:59.02\00:36:04.46
that
00:36:04.46\00:36:08.60
that works in us to do his
well. It's not us trying to win
00:36:08.60\00:36:12.10
his favor and then a man.
00:36:12.10\00:36:16.24
>> Yeah. And then you
know what? To me, it's a very
00:36:16.24\00:36:18.94
powerful, very encouraging
messes to share with people.
00:36:18.94\00:36:23.38
You know, it's not like
pulling myself up with my own
00:36:23.38\00:36:25.78
bootstraps, as they say,
but relying upon God to work to
00:36:25.78\00:36:29.72
solve a shun him. And
what a great message. You know,
00:36:29.72\00:36:32.75
we know you all a pretty well.
And we know that you're bout
00:36:32.75\00:36:35.89
evangelism to talk about this
message and everything that we
00:36:35.89\00:36:38.46
have to share. And you all talk
about evangelism. We know it's
00:36:38.46\00:36:41.63
near and dear to your heart,
00:36:41.63\00:36:44.40
but you don't just talk about
it. You actually put your boots
00:36:44.40\00:36:47.04
on the ground as you can
actually go out there and
00:36:47.04\00:36:49.27
evangelism yourself. You're
just talking about this long
00:36:49.27\00:36:52.07
trip that you all just
took going around visiting other
00:36:52.07\00:36:56.38
countries. But I know you also
do evangelistic series and I
00:36:56.38\00:36:59.31
know the initiative of the 7th
Avenue Church is I will go so
00:36:59.31\00:37:03.82
talk to us about evangelism
personally and also for the
00:37:03.82\00:37:06.62
World Church.
00:37:06.62\00:37:08.76
>> Well, we could do that for
the next 3 hours. Have a hour
00:37:08.76\00:37:12.89
and a half.
00:37:12.89\00:37:15.06
>> Nancy and I will be holding
an evangelist, a meeting in the
00:37:15.06\00:37:19.23
city of Prague
00:37:19.23\00:37:21.07
and the Czech Republic
00:37:21.07\00:37:23.37
in the month of May.
And it's part of a larger.
00:37:23.37\00:37:27.18
>> Emphasis for Europe
called Christ for Europe.
00:37:27.18\00:37:31.45
Many places throughout Europe
00:37:31.45\00:37:34.62
are going to be
holding evangelistic public
00:37:34.62\00:37:38.05
evangelistic meetings
and outreach activities
00:37:38.05\00:37:42.06
contextualized to their
setting. We know that Europe is
00:37:42.06\00:37:46.39
an incredibly sophisticated
and difficult place to do with
00:37:46.39\00:37:51.50
Angeles because of
secularization of the society.
00:37:51.50\00:37:57.21
And some people are hesitant
to even do anything. They say,
00:37:57.21\00:38:00.51
well, you know, and people
are going to listen. They're not
00:38:00.51\00:38:03.24
going to come.
00:38:03.24\00:38:04.75
The challenge is today to
remember we are not in charge
00:38:04.75\00:38:11.19
of that conviction
00:38:11.19\00:38:14.29
that takes place in people's
hearts. We are the messengers
00:38:14.29\00:38:18.29
in order to attract people's
attention. They must here
00:38:18.29\00:38:23.77
exactly what God has in store
for them. You know, I draw your
00:38:23.77\00:38:28.70
attention to a very wonderful
passage. An Romans chapter 10
00:38:28.70\00:38:34.14
and Paul is developing at
there. And he says in verse 13,
00:38:34.14\00:38:40.92
whoever calls on the name of
the Lord shall be saved first
00:38:40.92\00:38:44.42
14.
00:38:44.42\00:38:45.52
>> How then show they call
on him in whom they have not
00:38:45.52\00:38:49.49
believed and how shell
they believe in him of whom they
00:38:49.49\00:38:55.70
have not
00:38:55.70\00:38:57.07
>> heard and how show they hear
without a preacher. So in order
00:38:57.07\00:39:02.50
for people to
00:39:02.50\00:39:04.31
to call in the name of the Lord
and to believe then and all of
00:39:04.31\00:39:07.71
that, they have to hear.
And that's why everyone is
00:39:07.71\00:39:12.05
involved with what we
call total member involvement.
00:39:12.05\00:39:16.42
Everybody doing something
for Jesus. Everyone allowing the
00:39:16.42\00:39:20.69
Holy spirit to speak through
them and like Isaiah to say,
00:39:20.69\00:39:25.59
yes, Lord, here I am send me.
I will go. That's a theme that
00:39:25.59\00:39:32.33
is being taken up all over the
7th Day Adventists world around
00:39:32.33\00:39:39.01
this globe. Everywhere we go,
people are excited about that
00:39:39.01\00:39:43.68
strategic plan that we
have reached the world.
00:39:43.68\00:39:47.85
I will go.
00:39:47.85\00:39:50.45
Yes, Lord, I will be
part of it. Let me be involved
00:39:50.45\00:39:56.29
it. You know, there are
only a few things that seem too
00:39:56.29\00:40:01.96
seem to kind of be captured
by people all over the globe.
00:40:01.96\00:40:07.30
One is revival and reformation,
which is biblical. It's from
00:40:07.30\00:40:12.11
the spirit of prophecy that
each of us need to be revived
00:40:12.11\00:40:15.38
every day mission to the
cities, which is again, that
00:40:15.38\00:40:19.05
concept from Scripture.
You Nick was one of the first
00:40:19.05\00:40:23.52
missionaries to 2 big cities.
He went into the city. Then he
00:40:23.52\00:40:28.19
would go out into the
countryside and pray and ask
00:40:28.19\00:40:31.36
God to help him go back into
the city. There's a beautiful
00:40:31.36\00:40:34.36
model for U.S.
00:40:34.36\00:40:35.66
comprehensive Health Ministry
or medical missionary work
00:40:35.66\00:40:38.97
doing things in the name of
Christ, helping people where
00:40:38.97\00:40:42.60
they are. All of these things
have caught on around the world
00:40:42.60\00:40:47.51
but total member involvement.
Everybody being involved has
00:40:47.51\00:40:52.28
galvanized our church members
in so many places and the term
00:40:52.28\00:40:57.29
I will go, Lord, what can
you do through me? I'll go. I'm
00:40:57.29\00:41:01.72
prepared. It's just
amazing. As nancy-ann. I travel
00:41:01.72\00:41:06.26
to see people with T-shirts.
And, you know, I will go up.
00:41:06.26\00:41:09.93
People talking about I will go.
And of course, some people want
00:41:09.93\00:41:13.60
to debate. Well, why do
you say I will go that so
00:41:13.60\00:41:16.44
individualistic? We should we
should all go. We should all go
00:41:16.44\00:41:19.91
together. Well, I don't have
any argument with that. That's
00:41:19.91\00:41:24.11
great. Everybody go together.
That's fine. But it comes down
00:41:24.11\00:41:28.88
to a personal commitment.
I don't care what society
00:41:28.88\00:41:33.29
you're in around the world
and different cultures react in
00:41:33.29\00:41:36.76
different ways that some do
have a group mentality where
00:41:36.76\00:41:40.53
they are part of something
that's that's powerful. But it
00:41:40.53\00:41:44.20
really comes down to an
individual choice. We will not
00:41:44.20\00:41:48.57
be saved and get to heaven
because our parents or our
00:41:48.57\00:41:53.84
particular town or our church
that we belong to happened to
00:41:53.84\00:42:00.28
direct this in a particular
way. And we just kind of hope
00:42:00.28\00:42:03.32
can do it. We're all safe.
Know your saved individually.
00:42:03.32\00:42:08.02
So that's why an individual
needs to say, Lord, thank you
00:42:08.02\00:42:12.16
for what you've done. Thank
you for Salvation. Thank you for
00:42:12.16\00:42:15.36
the power in my life.
00:42:15.36\00:42:17.13
And Lord use me
00:42:17.13\00:42:19.70
in this mission to
tell somebody else about the
00:42:19.70\00:42:22.70
powerful truth that I
have understood from scripture.
00:42:22.70\00:42:27.48
I will go. I'll be part of it,
00:42:27.48\00:42:31.75
folks. We're just seeing so
many people around the world
00:42:31.75\00:42:36.48
who are so involved.
00:42:36.48\00:42:38.65
I don't know, Nancy, maybe we
should tell him about our trip
00:42:38.65\00:42:41.56
in Africa at this point.
Oh, yea, absolutely. Because it
00:42:41.56\00:42:47.23
was so thrilling 3 and a half
weeks. As I mentioned before,
00:42:47.23\00:42:52.47
a grueling schedule.
00:42:52.47\00:42:54.90
Just boom, boom, boom,
boom. Talking with our church
00:42:54.90\00:42:58.87
members, talking with
government officials, meeting
00:42:58.87\00:43:02.11
heads of state, all
kinds of individuals.
00:43:02.11\00:43:06.58
And yet the thing that
struck me the most we were in
00:43:06.58\00:43:11.15
in Zambia,
00:43:11.15\00:43:13.12
Kenya, Tanzania,
00:43:13.12\00:43:15.79
Democratic Republic
of Congo, South Africa,
00:43:15.79\00:43:20.83
a SWAT team. That's the new
new name for Swazi land, a SWAT
00:43:20.83\00:43:27.60
team. Let's to and Namibia.
00:43:27.60\00:43:31.47
And in these in these countries
we saw our church members on
00:43:31.47\00:43:37.48
fire for the Lord. I want
to tell you that God is doing
00:43:37.48\00:43:41.38
something amazing in Africa.
00:43:41.38\00:43:45.25
It's it's like people have
just gravitated to total member
00:43:45.25\00:43:51.59
involvement and being part
of this movement, not talking
00:43:51.59\00:43:55.16
about
00:43:55.16\00:43:56.26
leaders on late. I'm talking
about church members and the
00:43:56.26\00:44:00.40
amazing thing is in Africa
and children. The movement is
00:44:00.40\00:44:04.24
young. People know there are
hundreds of thousands of young
00:44:04.24\00:44:08.91
people involved and they're
so excited about the message.
00:44:08.91\00:44:13.38
So excited to be part of this.
They just can't wait to tell
00:44:13.38\00:44:18.15
somebody else about it.
00:44:18.15\00:44:19.99
And the the amazing
thing in Africa is we have many
00:44:19.99\00:44:23.73
countries, number of countries
now that have a million or
00:44:23.73\00:44:27.03
approximately a million
members are over a million.
00:44:27.03\00:44:30.63
And when you get this critical
mass in a population, let's say
00:44:30.63\00:44:35.47
of 20 million people in a
particular country and you get
00:44:35.47\00:44:39.17
a million members,
00:44:39.17\00:44:41.68
it does something unbelievable
to the witness and to the
00:44:41.68\00:44:47.12
acceptance of the church
00:44:47.12\00:44:50.22
because you have so many
people in places of government,
00:44:50.22\00:44:54.96
business and civic activity,
whatever it is, Adventists are
00:44:54.96\00:45:00.10
known and they are known to
be honest people, careful people
00:45:00.10\00:45:05.10
loving people that people
who share and who care not just
00:45:05.10\00:45:10.67
legal. Let's stick. People who
are, you know, often a corner.
00:45:10.67\00:45:14.58
No, they're just part of the
dynamics of what's happening.
00:45:14.58\00:45:19.88
I mean, to me, it's just a
thrilling thing to see what God
00:45:19.88\00:45:24.59
is doing on the continent of
Africa. And it's happening in
00:45:24.59\00:45:28.36
other places around the
world to we have one division,
00:45:28.36\00:45:32.79
the the Central Africa
Division, which is now our
00:45:32.79\00:45:36.56
largest division. They
have about 5 million members
00:45:36.56\00:45:43.57
last last November. They voted
00:45:43.57\00:45:47.64
to double their membership
by God's grace by the next G C
00:45:47.64\00:45:52.48
session, which is
only in like 2 plus years.
00:45:52.48\00:45:56.55
How are they going to do that?
Well, everybody is involved.
00:45:56.55\00:46:01.16
Everybody's excited. And these
young people are just on fire.
00:46:01.16\00:46:05.79
That's because they know
the word they know Christ. They
00:46:05.79\00:46:09.76
know the prophecies. They
understand where where we are
00:46:09.76\00:46:13.57
and they're so urgent about it.
I guess I could keep on going
00:46:13.57\00:46:17.14
on and on and on about
it. But Nancy, what was your
00:46:17.14\00:46:19.51
impression?
00:46:19.51\00:46:21.28
>> It was the same. But I was
I was drawn to the children and
00:46:21.28\00:46:27.35
they're just so
precious. Just us.
00:46:27.35\00:46:31.09
So so sweet. And
00:46:31.09\00:46:34.32
I love talking to
them. And I think one message
00:46:34.32\00:46:37.76
that we need to tell
not only our children,
00:46:37.76\00:46:41.13
but
00:46:41.13\00:46:42.40
people of all ages
00:46:42.40\00:46:44.67
that regardless of what
choices you may be making. Now,
00:46:44.67\00:46:48.80
regardless of what
your life looks like,
00:46:48.80\00:46:51.77
our God, our heavenly
father Longs to hear from us.
00:46:51.77\00:46:57.48
And when I talk to the
children, I said, you know,
00:46:57.48\00:47:00.42
you may think, you
know, your best friend is,
00:47:00.42\00:47:04.35
but I'm going to tell you
your best friend really is.
00:47:04.35\00:47:09.02
You can tell him.
00:47:09.02\00:47:11.23
>> Anything that's on your
heart. Even if you're angry,
00:47:11.23\00:47:15.43
if you're if you're not be,
if you're doing horrible things,
00:47:15.43\00:47:19.87
she says
00:47:19.87\00:47:21.60
your heavenly Father, Jesus and
and got they want to hear from
00:47:21.60\00:47:26.04
us.
00:47:26.04\00:47:27.14
You can tell them anything.
And they're the only one who
00:47:27.14\00:47:30.21
will never share your secrets.
00:47:30.21\00:47:35.75
God only wants you to be happy.
00:47:35.75\00:47:39.35
And he's the our only
source of your joy and peace.
00:47:39.35\00:47:44.06
He has great plans for you
00:47:44.06\00:47:46.86
and he longs for
you to talk to him
00:47:46.86\00:47:50.30
regardless
00:47:50.30\00:47:53.74
of what your situation is.
It doesn't matter if you're a
00:47:53.74\00:47:57.34
drug addict,
00:47:57.34\00:47:58.84
if you're drunk,
00:47:58.84\00:48:00.44
if you are
00:48:00.44\00:48:02.58
doing naughty
things all the time,
00:48:02.58\00:48:05.55
he's thrilled to hear from you.
00:48:05.55\00:48:08.12
And I think if if
00:48:08.12\00:48:10.69
if God became so personal to
people they would feel free to
00:48:10.69\00:48:16.39
talk to him more. They don't
have to get cleaned up and put
00:48:16.39\00:48:19.63
a suit on to go pray to God.
00:48:19.63\00:48:22.80
>> Another thing that I just
want to draw on this and you
00:48:22.80\00:48:26.53
may want to move
to another subject.
00:48:26.53\00:48:28.37
>> After this, but
00:48:28.37\00:48:32.17
we met all kinds of
government officials,
00:48:32.17\00:48:37.01
people, vice president, the
system, prime minister on and
00:48:37.01\00:48:41.85
not vice
00:48:41.85\00:48:43.18
vice prime minister, etcetera,
a different people. And we met
00:48:43.18\00:48:48.52
3 heads of state.
00:48:48.52\00:48:50.36
>> The?
00:48:50.36\00:48:51.79
>> The President, his
Excellency president, he chill
00:48:51.79\00:48:57.53
them of
00:48:57.53\00:48:59.37
Zambia
00:48:59.37\00:49:00.94
and his wonderful
wife would take that.
00:49:00.94\00:49:04.67
>> They are
00:49:04.67\00:49:07.54
dedicated,
00:49:07.54\00:49:09.48
committed faithful, 7th
Day Adventists members. The
00:49:09.48\00:49:14.25
president of Zambia.
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We met the president of Kenya
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is excellent. See
President William Ruto,
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wonderful gentleman, a
Christian gentleman who is well
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acquainted with 7th the Mets
and has had been to this in his
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higher echelon of of assistance
and workers within his
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administration.
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We had the privilege a meeting,
the president of the Democratic
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Republic of Congo in Kinshasa,
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His Excellency, the president,
she to Candy and his his wife
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and haha. It was amazing on
that Sabbath. We were holding
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the meetings on the
steps of the National Assembly
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of the country with about
15,007. They had been to this
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and the president and his wife
were there. The prime minister
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was there. The president
of the National Assembly, the
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president of the Senate cabinet
members and many government
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officials, they were
there. And, you know, I had the
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privilege of preaching to these
people and thousands of our
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members. And, you know, the
Bible says that preach the word
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in season and out of the
season. Regardless of what it
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is where you are preach
the word 2 sabbaths in a row.
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I was preaching
to 2 heads of state.
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Now people might say, oh,
you know that why do we have to
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meet these people? Why do
you are you paying India to?
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Let me tell you,
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it is so important
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to pray for the
leaders of your country
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to pray for people who are
in responsibility to show them
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that you are there
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to support spiritually. We're
not talking about political
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involvement. We're
talking about spiritual support.
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And, you know, some people
might say, well, those people,
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they meet these people in
there, not so good, the ones
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they meet them. Why the U.S.
and let me tell you, it is so
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important to minister to
people in high positions, low
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positions, every position to
be able to draw them, too. The
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Bible. And I usually ask and
they usually give me permission
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when I meet some of
these government people.
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Can I read that
something to encourage you?
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May I pray for you and the
country and almost invariably
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they will say yes.
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And let me tell you something,
those of you who are watching
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you have no idea
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what people Arsene in you
and how you are affecting their
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lives.
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You have a huge
responsibility to share
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troops with people through your
actions and through your words
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and those of you watching on
the screen, you might say all
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nobody pays any attention
to me. Everybody. People are
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watching you. They're watching
me. They're watching each of us
00:52:27.48\00:52:31.91
to see if our
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actions measure up
to what we're saying.
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The impact of one life
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is so powerful
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and God is asking for us
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wherever we are to be able
to touch lives, whether they are
00:52:46.39\00:52:50.33
in government, whether they
are in business, whether they're
00:52:50.33\00:52:52.97
and civic activity in
education, in health care,
00:52:52.97\00:52:56.91
whatever it is, wherever you are
00:52:56.91\00:52:59.74
be a witness for the Lord
be part of personal and public
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evangelism and say yes, Lord,
I will go. I'll be part of total
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member involvement.
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>> And praise the Lord. Yeah.
For sure. They're encouraged.
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It is for sure. You know,
evangelism. We've been talking
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about that here. And when you
think about advances, another
00:53:19.16\00:53:22.36
Wilson misses Wilson.
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It's really a lifestyle.
It's not like total member
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involvement for 5 years, 10
years, 15, maybe 20 know this
00:53:26.77\00:53:30.97
is what we're pushing for is
actually evangelism lifestyle.
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That's who you are. Your
advantage list all the time.
00:53:34.38\00:53:36.98
You're talking to that person
home and saying, oh, yeah,
00:53:36.98\00:53:39.58
I know you have an influence.
You make a difference for those
00:53:39.58\00:53:42.12
around you, your sphere of
influence. So thank you so very
00:53:42.12\00:53:45.72
much for this initiative.
And it's very encouraging to
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hear about the work that's
happening in the 7th avenues
00:53:48.26\00:53:50.76
church at the heads of state.
They're excited they know of
00:53:50.76\00:53:53.19
7th Day Adventists and the
work that is happening. There
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>> is absolutely incredible.
Jill, you're going to say
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something, too. I would just
going to say we're getting to
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the end of this hour. We're
going to take a 2 minute break
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and just a couple minutes and
we'll come back with many more
00:54:02.94\00:54:05.64
stories and
information the second hour.
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>> But before we do, what if
someone wants to get involved
00:54:07.88\00:54:10.21
in total member involvement
there watching tonight right
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now and they say, yes, I
want to go, I want to become
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involved. Is there a Web site?
People can go to our how can
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they find out where the
next initiative isn't? Can they
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become involved? Of course,
we can all pray for that. But is
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there any other way practically
that church members can become
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involved?
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>> Certainly they can go to the
General Conference website that
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will have all kinds of
information about total member
00:54:35.84\00:54:39.07
involvement.
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>> Are
00:54:40.28\00:54:42.24
director a coordinator for
that pestered Wayne McKee who is
00:54:42.24\00:54:47.82
president of that business
where radio is very much
00:54:47.82\00:54:51.45
involved. He and he and the
staff are willing to share all
00:54:51.45\00:54:56.06
kinds of resources and
materials. You can go to the
00:54:56.06\00:55:02.73
General Conference website.
You can look in there find
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total member
involvement. You can go to a W R
00:55:07.17\00:55:10.91
to their website. Find
about total member involvement.
00:55:10.91\00:55:15.48
They're also a R many other
Web sites. We have to assistant
00:55:15.48\00:55:21.98
directors for total member
involvement, a r***, Ramon
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Canals, who's in charge of
our Ministerial Association.
00:55:26.29\00:55:29.96
And Jim Howard is in charge of
R 7 school personal ministries
00:55:29.96\00:55:33.60
outreach. You can go to
those Web sites as well and find
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information about how you,
especially at your local level
00:55:37.53\00:55:42.14
are able to be part of total
member involvement. This is not
00:55:42.14\00:55:47.04
just something for over there.
It's something for right where
00:55:47.04\00:55:50.48
you are and how can God Hughes
you in doing things locally in
00:55:50.48\00:55:57.62
your own church.
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>> And so you have something,
yes, I was just thinking
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you don't really need
a website. If you just
00:56:03.09\00:56:06.36
pray and look
around your neighborhood,
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your neighbors, your family,
the post office, you go to
00:56:09.16\00:56:13.47
where you buy your groceries,
00:56:13.47\00:56:15.57
make friendships with
these people and ask God to open
00:56:15.57\00:56:19.51
doors and give you
00:56:19.51\00:56:21.54
an opportunity to speak
a word of encouragement.
00:56:21.54\00:56:25.28
We have no idea what
that personal contact we'll do
00:56:25.28\00:56:29.95
if yours neighbors said, you
know, take some soup over you.
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We have opportunities every
day. If we will just ask the
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Lord to open our eyes
00:56:37.49\00:56:40.23
to speak a word to encourage
or to help those who are right
00:56:40.23\00:56:45.23
around us.
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>> Can hardly believe the first
hour is just about gone already
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the blessing of God. We found a
long time ago in this ministry.
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The blessing of God is on the
go. So I will go. So thank you
00:56:56.14\00:57:00.35
so much, a man for what you're
doing, the vision that you
00:57:00.35\00:57:03.55
place and our hearts and minds.
I'm ready to go now somewhere,
00:57:03.55\00:57:06.89
right? I know I'm going to go
because the blessing of God is
00:57:06.89\00:57:11.39
on the go on. I know that
you want to be a part of those
00:57:11.39\00:57:14.36
watching around the world
listening. You want to be a
00:57:14.36\00:57:17.03
part of this. Jesus said,
go you and all the world and we
00:57:17.03\00:57:20.70
can do it. And sister Nancy
just said it may not always be,
00:57:20.70\00:57:24.57
you know, you don't even need
to Web site. She said just go
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to your neighbors. It's true.
Our churches were looking for
00:57:27.34\00:57:30.28
people to witness to.
What about our neighbors right
00:57:30.28\00:57:32.48
around all around us. What
do they think about is what they
00:57:32.48\00:57:35.65
learned about 7th Day
Adventists Christians? Well,
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hey, look, we're going to
have to take just a short break.
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>> Don't go away. We'll
be back to this moment and
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