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00:50 >> want to ♪ ♪ 01:08 >> Hello, friends. Welcome to 3. A B in today tonight here and West Frankfort at the 3ABN 01:17 Production Center. And my name is McCain. If you're in the car, I'm saying that because 01:21 you don't know who's You may know my voice. And with me is my lovely wife and 2 along the 01:25 king. Always good to have you on my right side. >> Always good to be here. We 01:30 blast. We are to be able to be a part of carrying the gospel various facets. Tonight going 01:37 to see how the Gospel is not just biblical, but the Gospels also spiritual, physical, 01:41 social and mental. And one of the things I want to talk about today was going to be 01:46 coming for the next 2 hours. If you want some encouraging information about how you can 01:54 activate your life and be different physically and spiritual leader says the 01:59 program because we're going to talk to problem. Call fast, 8 fast Pace. 8 and we'll find 02:07 out what that means. Why 8 Find out what that means in a moment. But in America, there 02:12 are issues health issues. Yes, they are. It's around the world that America is in 02:16 trouble. Honey, big trouble. It's worse than everywhere else in the world. we have 02:23 some are going to talk about which I guess going to reveal why important to look at your 02:27 life. Not only from the scope of your career, but from the scope of your health to what 02:33 can you do about it? And the good news is you can do something about it. So we want 02:37 to thank you for that. but also into thank you for your prayers and your financial 02:44 support of the network has been continue going and growing, getting ready for the 02:47 coming of the Lord. What makes you excited about talking about health? All there's a 02:53 lot to do with health. I want to be in health. The Bible talks about LG and could 02:56 possibly be in good health. And I'm show you want to be in good health to try it. Now, 03:02 health is wealth, isn't it? And don't assume because like me that you in good health. an 03:09 assumption because I want to be a better health to a you may be in good, you know, 03:15 physically outside. You look great. But inside, you could be tired. And you or not 03:19 function correctly tonight. I think you get a lot of answers and the good news we have the 03:25 op opportunity tonight. Are you calling questions? You can send in questions one u haul. 03:30 You could write you can e-mail those attacks. Those in give the e-mail that's live at TV 03:38 live at 3 ABN DOT TV. What's the phone number on 6, 1, 8, 228-3975. That's where the 03:46 Texas White. That's where questions you going to ask questions that I know you are 03:50 and nowadays with texting, that's a good thing to do. But before we introduce our 03:53 guests, we have some music firms. Stephanie, Dawn good friend of She's one of the 04:01 minister of Music Woman Un her sing a song, wonderful Merciful savior. That right. 04:05 And we've been blessed by that. Yes, but that's not the song. But that we're gonna be 04:10 used in tonight that they're going to be singing tonight after the song will come back 04:13 and introduce you to our guests and then will be off and running. We can find out 04:17 how you can be an optimum health with fast 8 right? 04:42 >> To >> to be. >> know. 05:00 ♪ ♪ ♪ 05:16 ♪ >> To >> I 05:28 >> will kill ♪ >> know, 05:57 ♪ ♪ ♪ 06:19 >> To >> I will kill ♪ 06:33 ♪ ♪ >> You find E news. 06:56 >> to. ♪ >> to 07:15 >> the >> know. ♪ 07:30 ♪ ♪ >> o 07:42 ♪ >> To >> needy. 07:53 >> I will kill ♪ ♪ 08:12 ♪ ♪ >> I 08:21 >> will kill ♪ ♪ 08:33 ♪ >> To need. ♪ 08:47 >> Thank you for that to me, which is, in fact, an answer or response, actually an 08:54 invitation to come unto me. All you who are weary and heavy laden. And I will give 08:58 you rest and everybody needs to have someone to come to do better than Jesus. 09:05 >> Yes. Well, honey, why don't you introduce a cause for us tonight? 09:08 >> Shore talked to David and Sony Rose Welcome. Good to be with you and both doctor hear 09:13 that, right? >> Both docked us. But you also pastor and not you. 09:19 >> That's true. We have the privilege of being up in Fort Wayne, Indiana and past ring 09:24 up there. Also seeing this ministry, timeless healing insights, Grosso. We partner 09:28 with you on. Your airwaves, sharing some of the messages that we're presenting from the 09:34 pope and in Fort Wayne, Indiana. >> Wow. And you only have one 09:39 church, one church, OK? That's good. But with all you do, I think one is sufficient. Yes. 09:45 But for those who may not know you, somebody might be tuning in, say. I don't know. The 09:48 couple is. Kind of give us a little background family chills. Sure. Sure. So the 09:56 Lord called the so called Me First and the ministry and medicine. 09:59 >> So I'm a board certified specialist in internal medicine and preventive 10:03 medicine. They had the privilege of working with the many ministries here in the 10:06 United States and partner with people overseas over the years, doing a lot of really 10:12 practical cheeses spent a lot of his time healing see that it's a privilege that we have 10:19 of being involved in that profession. But the Lord has also called the to be a 10:25 teacher, OK? I've taught in both secular and Christian college campuses over the 10:29 years and also to pastors. So doing a mix of those things, have a lot of gracious people 10:36 usually working around me who realize you can't do justice to any of those things. When 10:39 you're running in multiple directions. But we're part of the body of Christ who were 10:44 losing So, you know, I have been together for over 30 years as a team. So you wait a 10:48 little bit background or their family, OK? So. >> I also went to medical 10:56 school on. That's where we met a okay and to. And we have a family. We have 3 children. 11:04 They're all grown To a daughter and 2 sons and the 2 oldest are married and the 11:11 youngest just got engaged. So he'll be getting married in October and so we we minister 11:17 together, as he mentioned in Fort Wayne, Indiana. I also work part time still as a 11:24 physician out in California, actually in a rural health clinic that say a clinic, for 11:29 federally funded government clinic for the underserved. So we mainly see people who are 11:35 on public assistance and it's a real minister area, real ministry being able to. Work 11:42 with these people. So you fly the caliphs or fly out every other month for about a week 11:47 or so. And then I do telehealth one day. Plus a week in between depending on 11:51 how many people need to see. >> So you lives have been dedicated to spiritual and 11:57 physical healing and that's It's true. It's true. >> You know, I like about 12:01 every time you every time you hear, you know, you come in Tuesday, S taken may just give 12:07 us some insights and we get 2 hours of free medical and And for those of you that are 12:13 watching and listening to the program. >> That is to this. The only 12:15 time you get 2 hours of free medical insights from roses. so you may want to hit record 12:26 guns once again, the phone number for those texting questions. 12:30 >> Yes, 618-228-3975. Text. Your question in for the second hour to try and 12:37 whatever may be or email that live at 3 ABN DOT TV. That's where you send the email. No 12:44 phone calls tonight and but we'll be able to take those 2 Matheson. Almost everybody has 12:49 a phone nowadays. I know which have access to email. Yeah, we're trying to a little 12:54 taking here 3 again and we have the curve. That's how you can get in touch with us. But 12:57 give us a little insight behind timeless Healing Insights Ministries. 13:04 >> Well, timeless healing insights has been something that's been kind of going over 13:07 the course of really a couple of decades. But really just formulated really is only 13:12 taking shape in a real concrete when the last year or so. And so it's this whole 13:17 idea that, you know, Jesus gives us time list insights, but it's not just spiritual 13:21 insights. Its for whole person, healing. And so as we've looked the work, we've 13:28 done in teaching and medicine and also preaching, we realize that these things come 13:32 together in the Bible is really filled with information that not only deals with their 13:36 spiritual health but deals with those other realms of h***. So time was healing. 13:40 Insights is really a preaching show. But we drawing a lot of health information. So the 13:45 first series that aired on 3ABN, another network throughout the world dealing 13:51 with timeless keys to resilience, looking at things that can help us bounce back 13:54 with the Bible has to say about that and drawing from the the medical literature, 13:57 the psychological literature. We've got some programming coming up on weight loss that 14:03 will be airing on 3 ABN here shortly. And then we've got programs that are coming up on 14:07 the Gospel of mark with a systematically go through the Gospel of mark and really see 14:11 how imbedded in the gospel stories or practical healing insights, mental and physical 14:17 as well as spiritual okay. >> A lot of people refer to the book of Luke because was a 14:24 doctor. But Mark has some insights. Also, Marcus, fascinating so fan. What's so 14:29 fascinating to me about the Gospel of Mark is mark with someone who really was the 14:33 product of social Division. If you think about it, he was instrumental in that first 14:38 missionary team that went out to Paul and Barnabas and then division comes to to pioneer 14:46 Gospel mission areas over John Marks likely experienced a lot You know, people speaking 14:54 behind his back. I mean, here's the guy that broke up this powerful missionary team. 14:58 But as we read about Mark's life, he again is of value to Paul in the closing days of 15:04 Paul's ministry that I was so close to Peter and his gospel is full of things that are so 15:07 practical when it comes to healing and it's in the book, you know, as pastors, it's a 15:11 new book where and we even in her early ministry column, Martin got along. Well, but as 15:17 Paul got older and wiser says bring Mark is profitable is good as good? And also let's 15:24 get you thinking about. >> excited about today's program, whether we what is 15:29 the gist of the problem? Well, that just actually goes back to kind of a burden that a 15:35 number of us have both in medical circles as spiritual circles. 15:38 >> One of the conditions that has really been, I would say even the Christian world not 15:43 treated equally. It. And that is carrying extra weight. Yes. And so we're speaking about, 15:51 you know, in ministry, we've seen all kinds of prayer requests. You know, prayer 15:55 meetings. But as we were talking about it. It's almost unheard of for someone pray 16:01 about someone who struggles with their weight. we did a recent interview. I have a 16:08 weekly radio show with a a leading psychologist in fields. Name is Jason Willis 16:15 and Jason was talking about the stigma in our culture song about about overweight. Just 16:19 give us that a nutshell. >> He was saying how. People who are overweight. Ares often 16:29 made fun of look down on people. I think you must you obviously doing something 16:36 wrong. You're you're You know, it's OK to he people say it's OK to make fun of people or 2. 16:45 You know, criticize them to just be rude to them because they're overweight and I was 16:50 rather shocked when I heard that. I mean, to me, you're nice to you should be nice to 16:53 everybody. I don't care what ate. >> You know, look like or act 16:58 like we should be nice to them as Christians. But I was really amazed to hear that. 17:04 And I know a friend of mine was sharing with me shoes. She has struggled of late over the 17:09 years and has actually lost like 90 pounds over the last 2 or 3 years. Wow. And she was 17:13 saying how? People treat heard better now. Yeah, that she's weighs less even though she's 17:21 me still overweight. But she weighs a lot less than she did. And she said how people 17:25 treat her you know, more respectfully now than they used to. She said, I should 17:29 just be walking down the street to go for a walk and people would be yeah, Saying 17:36 heckling her making mean comments. You know, it just. Unbelievable to me. And that's 17:43 not my. We have thinking about things, but it's pretty. Prevalent out there. 17:47 Apparently, okay. >> Perhaps the craziest part about it feel as we're talking 17:51 to doctor little us about this is that a lot of people think they're helping the person by 17:58 being critical. This is going to motivate them. You know, they're they're they're 18:00 telling him that straight. Another. >> That was fascinating to me. 18:04 He said he shared that actually did a study on that where they showed. A video. To 18:08 people who are of normal weight and people who are overweight and the video was 18:15 remind me it was something about eating. >> Actually, actually was 18:19 people overweight in a bad. Let's write putting something they watch this video of 18:23 overweight people being made fun of or whatever I. >> And then they then 18:28 afterwards they had a spread of food for these people to watch the video. The people 18:33 who were of normal weight, 8, the norm, same amount they would have at any other time. 18:38 The people who are overweight, 8, 3, times the amount of food after watching that video of 18:44 all, they're overweight. People being made fun of 3 times 3 times. And I know I've 18:52 had people tell me to the same that they're doing what they said when people would make 18:55 fun of me or to, you know, say you need to lose weight. She's it would just drive them to go 18:59 and eat more. It's like a boomerang >> into Instead of responding 19:08 affirmatively this one, show you. It's not the way to help with the negativity and some 19:12 other people say it's, you know, it's a stress response. So many people eat, you know, 19:15 lot of stress. So the lot of explanations for it. But but this background has really 19:20 gonna saying will, as a Christian community, what are we doing? That's in the way of 19:26 compassionate. Karen, help for people who are overweight. And that's the background for this 19:29 fast a program. So it's a new program that we're launching try to take a different angle 19:34 on weight control. Actually looking at biblical principles that have a bearing on help is 19:40 not just optimized. Weight but optimize our health overall. And it's actually a weight 19:45 loss program. We're not telling people you're going to lose 50 or 100 pounds and a 19:49 few weeks and not that anyone would say that. But the point is, if you change your outlook 19:55 and the folks in the secular research community like Jason Lewis, they they call this 20:00 approach to treatment acceptance and commitment therapy act. What they're 20:06 trying to help people do is to beat themselves, as we would say as Christians. We're 20:12 trying to treat other people that you read through their their research to the talking 20:16 about loving kindness, how people should treat themselves with loving kindness. And 20:21 that's the scariest thing. All the societal things they get programmed into people who are 20:25 carrying extra weight. They start looking in the mirror and say why am I so bad? I'm 20:29 disgusting. I'm no good. trying to change that whole narrative and give people some 20:36 practical help. And so one of the questions I want to bring up the slate very briefly that 20:40 highlights the program and we're going to talk about tonight Fast 8 because he's 20:44 something of an audience to do. >> To be able to track along 20:48 with a strong dollar. when that graphic up for me, it will show us some the overall 20:52 picture here it is, if you could, if you go to a timeless healing insights Dot org. And 21:02 that's if you listening. But if you can see it on the on the on the television screen, 21:04 time healing insights, Dot org and notice the steps. Sign up for free. The free program 21:10 handouts and free virtual program support beginning February 4, 2023, you could 21:16 download the outline. I did it. So I have in front of me. We're going to be gone along 21:20 with that and that will give you some not just saying say I miss that. You say, well, 21:26 let's look at this particular part of the program. So that's your outline for the program 21:31 tonight. We're going to follow along. If you're driving. Pull up before you do that Don't 21:37 try to download anything while you're driving. But what I'm hearing you say is. They've 21:43 noticed that this negative shaming, if I could use that term is also done by 21:51 Christians. Unfortunately, even in school kids tease him. >> With this is a fascinating 21:58 Angela kids as young as 5 years of age when they actually research it. They 22:03 have a preference. 4, piers, that are, quote, Finner. So there's already a presence 22:10 that were imparting this societal e and then on top of this, our society, our culture 22:15 that we're in today is really geared to help people gain weight. I mean, it's a real 22:20 crazy environment. And if you look at, you know, the food industry, if you look at the, 22:25 you know, accessibility of calories, if you look at all the labor saving devices, you 22:31 know, so we don't have to do the work that our forefathers did. Write my son, like one of 22:37 my pet peeves that told us my wife. >> Why would anybody put a 22:42 motor on a bicycle >> Just get a moped or get a scooter. But bicycles, which I 22:49 was being raised. They quite heavily. >> Nowadays, you can buy a 22:55 bike that has a battery that go 30 miles 60 miles. It's tense to defeat the purpose. 23:00 And I let you said a lot of but the cause energy saving devices or labor say they were 23:07 out whatever. But you know, that's exactly the point. It so. 23:09 >> So really we're in this environment were the majority of Americans are overweight or 23:13 obese by about but a 2 thirds. And so the issue becomes this is not abnormal. This is 23:22 actually normal. So why are we stigmatizing something that our culture is fostering and 23:27 why are we giving this messaging? But at the same time, there's physical 23:32 complications. We see a lot of people in our practices that likely wouldn't be there 23:37 wouldn't have the problems to the extent they do it. If they could even lose a little bit 23:39 of weight, they don't have to have this magic number. We want to throw out the weight 23:45 charts right now. We can talk about that. The program, if you want, but there's a lot to 23:47 talk about. >> Well, why should Christian churches be motivated to 2 23:56 have will help those in the community that have weight issues, challenges. We know 24:00 it's interesting where we're talking about let me just turn my Isaiah 58, you know, with 24:05 the program's called fast State. And John, you kind of set the stage for this. But 24:10 the reason we call fast 8 is because it's 8 different fasts. They have a biblical 24:17 basis. and those fast I should mention this people think a fast and it's a fast over 8 24:21 weeks. And that's what the program is about. And I tell people I'm introducing you 24:26 think going to be really bad. One fast is bad enough. And it keeps adding a fast once a 24:32 week for 8 weeks. I'm going to be What doesn't work that way? Because I see a 58 with so 24:37 fascinating. Speaking about fasting, it's not speaking about just what you do or 24:41 don't do with your diet. Isaiah 58 fascinate with Jews. They're fasting, having just 24:49 pick it up. and Isaiah 58 >> Verso let's start first 3. Okay. Okay. Why have we 25:00 fasted? >> They say and you've not seen their complaining to God, 25:04 why have we afflicted our souls and you take no notice instead of God, then the rest 25:09 of this chapter saying, well, here you needed to leave off a more of this or you need to 25:14 eat more of this? No, it has nothing to do with that. He's talking about how what they 25:19 were doing while they were called as they were exploiting others. They were they were 25:25 mistreating others. So at that at the high heart of Isaiah 58 in this this biblical chapters 25:30 where the pinnacle chapters and fasting is it. We've got to be concerned about. Others 25:34 are going to be ministering to others. And I say it was a Christian We have all these 25:38 people that are suffering with weight related issues. Our society has fed the shame. The 25:47 guilt. And as a church, we have something to say So when we say something, we've made 25:51 it really easy. It's a virtual program we're launching at this weekend. And if he can 25:55 jump on, no one's got to see you doesn't matter whether you're 600 pounds, like some 25:58 of my patients have it well with working people over 600 pounds, I could come into 26:03 churches and say you're all fan. You know, I can tell by looking at you, none of, you 26:07 know, even tips the scale. And, you know, 500, I'm like an I bond and say But it's 26:13 just it's just a message that I think the Christian Church needs to embrace and try to 26:16 support people on this jury. And because if you look versus 1, 5, the talks about, you 26:23 know, just mentions fasting in in a way so you can break down. 26:25 >> Those 8 as we go along. That's a church. We have the health message. 26:32 >> Yet we have so many overweight people, including me. 26:36 >> But this so many overweight people obese, I would say. >> But here's the first place 26:41 to started. Remember, I mentioned throwing out you know, the body composition 26:46 charts throwing out the New Year. This toy supposed to weigh this amount. And the 26:48 reason I say that. So, you know, I work with so many people over the years. could 26:55 be doing great. I mean, they may have lost 100 pounds 200 pounds with the people of lost 26:59 lots of weight and they may still be, quote, overweight. If we put these arbitrary 27:04 ideas on what you have to weigh up, it's just unattainable for some people. 27:09 One of the things we've been looking at recently talk a little bit about some of the 27:12 research on prenatal influences, just bad it is. >> Yeah, that is amazing. How 27:18 they've done research that shows that if. When your mother was pregnant with you, 27:24 for instance, if she had diabetes or just station UL diabetes. Fat. Predisposes the 27:34 baby actually predetermine is basically that the baby is going to have weight issues 27:37 when they get older because and some of the background of why that is if someone has 27:46 diabetes, as you well know, their blood sugar levels tend to be higher rating. The 27:51 blood, the sugar in the blood passes through the placenta into the baby. So the baby's 27:57 blood is is high getting high blood sugar as well. But insulin from the mother cannot 28:04 pass through the placenta into the baby. And so the babys own pancreas house to overwork 28:09 make more insulin. To take care of the blood sugar that the babies being exposed to. 28:16 And that predisposes the baby actually to being overweight later in life late in the the 28:25 teen years. I mean, it was some huge percentage. >> Yeah, it's not like the 28:30 difference between being normal weight and up to 35 BMI of up to 35 instead of, you 28:35 know, normal 25 or something. It's just amazing. The influences this has and then 28:40 the on the flip side, babies who are very small, too small for their gestational age. 28:48 >> Born very tiny. Not because of maybe their parents were very petite. And they're just, 28:54 you know, on genetically small. But because of lack of good nutrition. When the 29:00 mothers pregnant. The babies who survive, they also will tend to be overweight because 29:08 and they they think it has to do with a thrifty. Gene. So that when the babies, you 29:13 know, when the fetus is being exposed to if they have this thrifty gene, that makes their 29:20 body. Conserve energy and store energy better then when they're older, they tend to be 29:29 overweight. So it's pretty think they may even be a small way in the mother's womb. And 29:35 >> now to small. Yeah, all. But then it boomer. It just goes into them to being 29:41 overweight. And the whole reason for talking about all this is what did you have to 29:43 do with? Life in your mother's through. >> And it reminds me of John 29:49 9, you know, we know that story where the disciples they see this guy, he was blind 29:55 from birth, OK? And just like our culture, we tend to blame the victims through. Okay. 29:59 They were doing the same thing. They said who sent, you know, was that this guy? Yeah, 30:05 or as parents, you know, and was not neither. You know it. It got is going to work 30:11 through this for his glory. I wish we had the same attitude with weight. The God is going 30:16 to work through these things for his glory and it doesn't mean at the end of the day 30:19 that everyone's going to look the same. >> I like that. I want to 30:23 bring that up because we we were reading through your wonderful outline. and I was 30:27 thinking, well, this is great sermon material, but isn't this program on health? And I 30:32 get the connection now and I saw that in there. How you outline says we tend to blame 30:35 people for their condition and a lot right away says it wasn't his fault. It wasn't as 30:40 parents fault. You know, but the glory of God might be in the field. Yeah. So what I'm 30:47 hearing you say then make the connection just my passes. My coming in. Now you're saying 30:52 that people are sometimes in the predispose position, but it's not. It's not possibility 30:58 for God. I could do some amazing things in the situation in okay. This one. 31:02 Is that Yeah, definitely. >> And again, but the outcome, the outcome, the end point is 31:08 not necessarily what we would like. So let me just illustrate this way. So years 31:12 ago, I was the medical director of a large hospital based weight loss program. And 31:17 I see these people do great. I mean, they're losing weight. They're trimming down, but 31:21 they had some artificial idea of what they should wait maybe with their sister weight. 31:26 Maybe as with they way when they were 12. I don't know what it was, but they have 31:29 this idea that although I'm starting at 300 pounds, I need to get down to one 40 and they 31:34 get down to one 80. They've lost 120 pounds. Yes, but they can't get rid of those last 40 31:39 pounds in the end up throwing in the towel. All they say what and people are still 31:44 telling them. Well, you look good, but if you just losing a little bit more weight, you're 31:47 doing great with Ake. Can't because whatever's on with their metabolism. What a great 31:52 way for them is one, 80. That's an ideal weight by ICE. Yeah. And we do. And as a 31:58 society, we have trouble with that. And we've told people that's not OK if you don't 32:02 look a certain way, that's not okay. You can be healthy and fit and decrease all your risk 32:10 of disease. Instead, these people were kicking him off to the side of the road. They're 32:13 getting discouraged and giving up the site. My brother, went on this weight loss program on 32:16 television. Often he package meals and everything. And he lost good. What on 40 pounds. 32:24 he's on his to lose. >> Another 20? >> I think if run great, many 32:31 of you right? Very good point. And he did because he actually he looked a little too thin. 32:40 Haha. But he looked, you know, he wanted to lose more your body says no, that's enough 32:46 threat. Yeah. I mean, for his age to 60 plus years old, I mean, so I see what you're 32:51 saying. >> But also hear you saying I think this is something that I 32:56 want to do. Viewers and listeners to grab don't allow society to determine the 33:01 optimal fully online yet. And that's usually, you know, movies and the Internet had 33:06 and the billboards and just society, period. We tend come press people into a 33:12 pre-determined mold. >> It's a almost quiet. You know, as you know, when you 33:19 get there and then we have these charts because I've seen you mentioned BMI body mass 33:24 index is proper direct. I've seen these charts and he said that from country to country, 33:30 BMI, ferries. So the question is, it says it is it something that one country's genetic 8 33:36 exposed to that another one isn't or somebody different. Why do we have these variables 33:40 have enough to something you looked into? >> It's an interesting 33:44 question it brings back another point and that is not only are there these early 33:49 life history factors, both intrauterine and But also this genetic factors. There's body 33:55 frame factors. There are societal factors. I mean, the kind of ethnic differences in 33:59 foods dietary, this is it. It's all these things. Our determinants of our weight and 34:06 many of these determinants are not based on personal choice. So we can't just look at 34:13 someone size and say you're not a good Christian unit, you know, using good will power. 34:17 We met one of the thing and you can this relates to question. I've had multiple 34:21 people who wanted to be involved in health ministry in their communities, their 34:23 societies, they've they've come to me and they said, well, I can't do this because 34:26 they weigh too much. And my message is always been just go ahead and do it. K because the 34:35 problem is none of us are going to be perfect in every respect, OK, so if we have a 34:41 desire to minister minister and part of ministry, sometimes the Lord has us on 34:45 that journey to bring other people with us and to bless us as well. I that wow. 34:52 >> Tell us about this online program called Fast 8. What is that? That's an interesting 34:59 one. Interesting title past 8. So it's. >> It's an 8 week program 35:04 involving 8 different fast soon. As we mentioned earlier, it's not just that we're going 35:10 to say, well, each week you got to eat less and less of, you know, fast more from this. 35:14 And so the first one is actually the first the first fast is a what we call the 35:24 leaf stem and flower and there's another option we'll talk about as well. first of 35:31 all. We want to describe what leaf stem and flowers, vegetables are on. So leaf. le 35:42 flour leaf vegetables, anything that's a leaf spinach. Callers, kale, let us 35:54 anything like that stem vegetables, celery, broccoli, of course, would be a stem and 35:58 a flower or vegetable asparagus. And then flour, of course, like broccoli 36:04 cauliflower. That kind of thing. So the from that? No, those are those vegetables are 36:10 some of the highest. Density nutrition. Wise with the lowest calories. Very, very 36:18 healthy for you. And we're encouraging people to at least one day. One meal of each day. 36:28 I like to start their meal with at least one serving of the are a vegetable. 36:34 >> Yeah. And the interesting thing is this this is this program is designed so that no 36:37 one fails the program. Yeah. So we talk about what a serving is. You can look 36:44 online and on a serving. Some people says that, you know, cup of this match to baller or 36:48 a half cup some Ivan, someone sources the 2 cups, but we see a serving as whatever you 36:53 decide to So if you want to just take a bite of celery and that's going to you're serving 36:59 that someone well into it, you know what kind what kind of difference is economic. But 37:02 what we're trying to do is we're trying to make a program where people do it's not 37:06 onerous. It's not so hard that you're going to fail and we're working with people. And this 37:10 is the first thing that we introduced the first week. Is using this more flour if as we 37:16 have several other options of people said, just can't eat vegetables some other options 37:19 that we've got for them. But everybody can do something. We say the only people they're 37:25 not successful are the ones who drop out of the 8 week program. Okay. We just want 37:28 people to stick with the program. I'm Anna. We're going to work with them and you're 37:31 you sign. I signed couple Stuart. I. >> And I like what you said 37:36 also about what I read. You can fast for him, greasy foods fried foods by that coming up 37:47 this what doctors want you just mentioned. And if you if you download that, if you 37:50 download the program, I'm looking at the table here. >> It is outlined in the 8 37:55 sections Table. One 2023 program overview and as the beginning date of program 38:02 week. So if you look at February 5. So this is a live program today is for a second. 38:10 So you've got 3 more days to start this And unlike what you just said, the encouraging 38:14 thing is the only people that don't succeed are those who drop prop out. So I'm not 38:19 talking about lowering my body index. You might be surprised. I stepped on the scale one to 38:24 nothing. So my with And I thought since I stopped being very, very active, I play 38:31 basketball in Hawaii, which is something I really did high energy. Yeah. And I thought of 38:33 getting a little, you know. Not to check and started getting I was that I like 38:38 that. And I said, I don't like show. Judge, I showed you get becoming a man. I want to 38:48 haha. No secrets in >> It is lot like something good. funny. So you don't have 38:58 to be. >> I well, this tells you don't have to according to the 39:03 world stands. If you just want to improve yourself right? So leave stem and flour fast. If 39:09 you download that, you see it right in front of the end. I don't know if we we will. 39:14 >> haven't mentioned this yet. I'm sure it may come out later, but I just wanted to 39:16 mention is too, as far as this program. And this is introducing several different 39:24 things that you can choose to do. You may not choose to do you know, just stick with all 39:29 8 of these things for the rest of your life. But its introduction, we want you to 39:34 pick at least one or 2 things that you will stay with for the rest of your life. Optimum 39:42 weight loss actually comes one week shoes, a program that we can live with that we it's not 39:49 just a crash diet that you go on for 6 weeks or 8 weeks or whatever. And then all I can't 39:54 live with this, right? So you lose weight. If you don't stay with that, then pretty soon 40:01 you gain the weight Where is this is something we're wanting you to find lifestyle 40:05 changes that you can make that you're happy to live with the rest of your life. Mike and 40:10 and then as it is, you work that into your lifestyle and you work with okay with that. 40:15 Well, then you may say, hey, you know what, I could do another one of those. Now, you 40:19 know it. You implement another one in and it's not a a quick fix. It's a lifestyle change. 40:27 Over time that really adds up. And it's something you stick with. End and you can really 40:35 become successful. >> You know, that sounds more sustainable, then buying food 40:38 is pre package, but he's not going to pre packaged food for rest of your Nutley. Okay. Let 40:45 least them and I know Chad in parenthesis there, herbal Jello option. Oh, yeah. 40:54 >> Yes. So for those people that are determined not to eat vegetables, that mouthful of a 40:58 seller, that plate of solar is too much. We do have an herbal This is something that we 41:02 worked with in one of our at Venice lifestyle centers some years ago. It was using to 41:09 sizable plant, fibers, choir gum and cilium seed husks. I know this is just sounding 41:16 mouth watering and But both of these compounds actually help to stabilize blood sugar. 41:19 We're using it in patients with diabetes, but also has a set. Heidi inducing helps you 41:25 to feel more full. You can eat this at the beginning of the meal instead of the one 41:30 serving of of least m in flour vegetable. If you can stomach the bench. 41:35 >> is it too soon to You you know, you can one day you can have the vegetables and on the 41:40 day at the Karnes City. And Joe, we have one recipe in there. There's other recipes 41:43 that have been used. >> And my wife is saying we may want to refine that. Think 41:47 this recipe many this tweaking. This is a work in progress, OK? They've worked 41:53 with management issues for over 30 years, but we've never used this particular approach. 42:00 It's a new approaches. 8 fasting model, OK? And so we're we've been inviting 42:03 people to join this program that starts the weekend of February 4th and 5th. That's 42:08 this coming weekend and that we're doing a live video presentation Saturday night at 42:12 07:00PM Eastern Time folks can jump on for that. That program. It's all the 42:18 information is right there. Through that time was healing insights website and then 42:22 also. Handout. We're going to continue to update. So there you go through what we're 42:28 trying to get your feedback. People going through the program to say, well, this is 42:31 not clear when was looking at some of it saying, you know, we've got this is the best 42:36 recipe. Don't give a better recipe that got another one, too. So anyway, we're going to 42:41 it's interactive and we're we're rolling this out both for people who need it, but 42:47 also because we want to work together with people go on this journey together, not 42:50 just cost free. Absolutely Foley for all. I think that So so can I put that on my credit 42:59 card? You actually speaking your credit card. timeless healing insights geared to 43:05 putting up free resources. But you guys know ministry. we do appreciate people who support 43:10 us because people who were taking out their credit cards and making donations to time 43:15 was healing insights. I wouldn't be here, you know, honestly, so, but but it's 43:21 free. We don't expect anything. But we are glad that people are partnering with his 43:25 finance a man. We're going to encourage that before system. But just before you asked the 43:29 question. >> You know, I I came up with the thought I had on my mind a 43:32 moment ago. Yeah, OK, the program, the fast 8. Why did you choose a in not 9, 4, not 43:44 7. >> it's an interesting question. kidding with my wife 43:47 here. You know, the last time we around we're talking about we've got a number of 30 day 43:51 programs ounces or about 4 week programs. And that's when I was in a week wrote say the 43:56 next time they call us up there, they might get worried. They're going to come out with 43:59 a 16 week program, OK, doubling it. No. But the reason for 8 weeks, you know, 44:05 we've done many programs over the years. Community programs and for many people, it seems 44:09 like the magic program like the summer between 4 and 8 weeks. As far as what you can 44:15 get people to commit to say this is a, you know, definable block of time. It's not like 44:21 forever, but I could do this, but it's got to be long enough to make some significant 44:24 progress Cent. For we programs. These intensive programs for diabetes for high 44:30 blood pressure with weight loss. And some of the things that we're exploring like 44:34 Sonia said, we wanted to expose people to a number of different fasting techniques 44:37 over a period of time and then say at the end of 8 weeks, which of these things can you 44:43 stick with? We want you to try to stick with at least one or 2. That's the goal see an to 44:51 the talks you know, >> actually from an experience of a a someone we know came to 44:58 a came to you. David in is asking advice on. Lifestyle and weight loss and everything 45:07 in. They had previously tried. Going on a, you know, total vegan diet from from just 45:15 late. The regular American. Diane, just totally jumping in full but not. When people do 45:25 that, you may be successful for a while, but unless you have support and a lot of 45:27 stuff. Help oftentimes people don't stick with it because it's too overwhelming. There's 45:34 too many changes and they don't know how to deal with it. Yeah. And she said she's 45:37 told me this several times. She said your husband told me. Don't try to be vegan. Don't 45:42 be vegan. Just make one change. That you can stick with for the rest of your life 45:47 and start there. And she's like I can do that. And so she picked one thing. That she 45:56 could decide to live with the rest of her life for us. She said it was a switching from 46:02 cow's milk to a plant based milk. I'm just so I can do that. And she did that. And 46:09 then eventually she started making other changes once that was part of her last ounce 46:13 like, you know, I would could do something else. And you know it today. She is 46:18 centrally. I'm totally plant based has lost. Like I said, like 90 pounds in the last you 46:25 know, too, lest little over 2 years. to post almost like a Daniel Diet high. 46:29 >> Well, the Daniel tight as one of the fans from this program. So we do have the 46:32 Daniel Fast and so different get. But it's it's these are options. So someone may not be 46:38 ready for Daniel Fast, we give them. This is the last fast that we introduced in the 46:43 program. So this is a, you know, total plant based diet. The Daniel Fast, just water 46:47 and plant based diet. Some folks are not ready for it. So we say at least to the Daniel 46:52 Fast, that annual did all his life and some Christians say what was the Daniel Fast? He 46:58 did all He excluded the unclean food to some level cause on clean foods. So we 47:00 talk about that in the program. So that's a little bit more manageable for folks 47:06 who don't take away their their red meat in there. And there's some of their fish and 47:09 things like Some people they get mad. They 2 rows. Why you're doing this is not the 47:15 ideal diet. You have to meet people where they're at true and we're trying to help 47:19 people do things like Sonia said that they can embrace and stick with and they may end 47:23 up. At the very place you are. I think they should have been all along, but they may not. 47:30 And that's OK, it's a journey. >> Yeah, it is. But can fast and keep the weight off. 47:36 >> It can fast. They were talking about not fasting, that you're doing some kind of 47:41 extreme caloric restriction. Yeah, but you can stick with for the rest of your life. 47:44 We're talking about fasting techniques that you can do long term. So all these 8 47:50 fasting techniques can actually be done long-term. We're not do it. I've done 47:53 things with water only fastened on this. This fasting regimen doesn't use that. We 47:56 don't use any of those medically supervised faster things we're looking at 48:03 fasting techniques that you can use long term. This would all faster. What about someone 48:06 with diabetes? That is one of the caveats, right? Sonia? Yes. 48:15 >> Especially with the any kind health issue, as a good example, we encourage you to 48:21 work with your physician anytime you're making any significant lifestyle changes. 48:24 Because when you do that, it's going to affect your blood sugar levels and your need to 48:29 work with your physician to perhaps change in medication, dosages center. 48:35 >> Now, before we go to the next question of the next week, when remind our viewers, 48:38 you can send your questions in. You can e-mail those to lies at TV or text them to 6, 48:48 1, 8, 2, 2, 8, 39. 75. Send your medical questions and maybe about what you've heard 48:53 so far a week one, we have 7 more weeks to cover, which I know we're going to cover this 48:56 said either in not in this first hour, but definitely in the second hour. But I'm I'm 49:03 really excited about the fact that it body can be involved in the fasting. I just want to 49:07 point this out. You mean fasting? Are you reading this that we meals? That is one of 49:14 the fast. So we roll that out. >> That's actually fast that fast. Number 2. Okay. Well, 49:22 no, I take that back. That's fast. That's coming later fast. Number 2 is I don't want 49:25 to go in order or whatever, but fasting at the end at the end of that, so fast. Number 2 49:33 is fasting at the so is fasting at the end of your meals. But it's what he's 49:37 talking about. His not overeating. So quitting when you have had enough rather 49:42 than continuing to sit there and eat little nibble. Nibble nibble. And you know, which is 49:46 easy to do, especially if you're mindlessly eating and if say you're watching a 49:55 something. you know, and you just continue to sit there and eat and eat. And before you 50:00 realize it, you've eaten way too much and you you know, I too much. That's not that's 50:06 not healthy. And of course, it's adding extra calories that you don't need. So being 50:12 conscious of what you're eating being aware when you're. When you've had 50:18 enough, some of the things that can help with that one is to not be too fast as if week 50:23 inhaler food, so to speak. We it's easy to eat way too many calories before we realize 50:30 that we're even falls. So that's one thing that can help. And the other thing that 50:36 can make a big difference is if we still stay well hydrated, if you're drinking 50:39 enough water between meals. It helps you not to overeat at meals. Because your body 50:47 misinterprets first as hunger. So if you're dehydrated, you will tend to eat more. 50:54 >> want to grab that, OK, if you if you're not hydrated in on that, your body tends to 51:01 interpret that as as hunger. I need to treat water. I've been telling 51:10 >> Has opposed water. I mean, do you drink your water? >> You know, water always 51:14 teams going 03:00PM program. >> Maybe I should be in the Senate. Want to treat walking. 51:19 Just kidding with that. But no, really, you don't think about it until because the one 51:24 with sitting on the said just kind of give you a program. here that is that's my 51:30 terminology. I can't get up and walk over refrigerated pickup juice or so to. Yeah. 51:36 For some the lemonade or something like that. So you it tends to just satisfy when 51:42 it's right in front of us. I really the finish that the finish that. And that's why we 51:48 recommend at least we and we always try to practice. >> If we're going out. Away 51:52 from home, we take water with us. Because you can't get enough water to satisfy your 51:59 thirst from a high school drinking fountain. And furthermore, it usually 52:03 doesn't taste good because foreign aid water so get filtered water. Have a filter 52:08 in your house or get the reverse osmosis refills from Wal-Mart or whatever. A lot of 52:13 Wal-Mart stores have Ro filter stations where you can get very reasonably. Take your 52:17 water with you. So that you can get and you know, stay well, hydrated. You know, so 52:25 what does the Bible bases for fasting when we talk about fasting is so many ways you 52:28 can do it. Yeah. Yeah. There's multiple Bible, rational for fast and we've mentioned the 52:33 Daniel Fast. That's Daniel Chapter one. in Daniel Chapter one, the most Bible students 52:38 still the background to be Daniel. >> And his friends were taken 52:41 captive to Babylon and they're basically put into a situation where their offer, the 52:47 so-called best food that can be offered to its food from the king's table right. Daniel 52:51 realizes that this is not the best diet. He's been enlightened by guide the eye. 52:58 And so he says, you know, I'm not going eat this food and he fully appeals to get a 53:06 different died in that diet has been identified as the first clinical trial dietary 53:10 clinical trial in history. There's a debate in the New England Journal of Medicine 53:14 with journals years ago. talking about what was the first clinical trial and these 53:21 experts came to the conclusion it was Daniel Chapter one. But were Daniel went on This plant 53:26 based diet and water didn't have the wind and the fine. That's Delicacies as the King 53:33 of Babylon and at the end of those 10 days. His health with superior, that was the 53:40 assessment. So, yeah, so there's all kinds of things that lay the foundation for 53:43 fasting and there's other scriptures that we sometimes go through and in Proverbs and 53:47 other places speaking about, I would put it this way. The basic message that we're 53:54 emphasizing his message of true temperance. We were talking with people about this 53:58 whole idea of avoiding things that are harmful and doing things that are good in 54:03 moderation. And I tell him the good news is God has promised us as one of the gifts of the 54:08 spirit in Galatians 5. The temperance is one of those gifts on like we're calling 54:12 you to do something that God hasn't already provided to give you success in 54:20 Temperance. like that. mean, I'm I'm thinking about that. That's really good 54:23 application. >> The Daniel Diet and he just did it for 10 days. right. And 54:29 it was another low cost program. That's what if I do this for 10 days and see how 54:33 it's going. >> I think I keep going for the rest of the time finance 54:39 and Daniel did, too. I mean, he didn't didn't just he didn't stop. After 10 days. 54:46 can, too. But they can see the difference in 10 days. >> So you know, we didn't get 54:51 the rest of the story because the Bible doesn't include that. But I could imagine. 54:54 >> Some of the other people in the courts that. Could you give us what he had because 55:00 they are very wise. He was smarter, healthier looking Farrah and when the virus is 55:04 fatter and the King, James version healthy, look how look radiant and they were wiser 55:09 and wisdom. And when you think about it, the way that communicates to us, his he 55:14 communicates through this organ that he created, which includes on mine. If your 55:18 blood pressure is too high. I'm talking to to talk to see what happens when your blood 55:25 pressure is on a lat. so that's good. good. What happens if you over talks 55:31 talking with toxic Texas? It >> I mean, all these things so huge. And we don't make these 55:35 connections often. But the brain, like you mentioned, that's the medium of 55:40 communication. You know, holy spirit speaking to us through our brains, which are part of 55:44 our physical body. You know, brands are physically okay. And so if your blood pressure 55:49 is high, we know that increases your likelihood, having dementia carrying extra 55:54 weight, especially if combined with diabetes may increase risk of dementia, fourfold and 55:58 that range. So we're talking about things that affect the clarity of our mind, which is 56:03 directly impacting our spiritual walk that is interesting. I mean, that a 56:10 we've the leave stem in flower. Oh, yeah. And that's week notice into week one. 56:17 It's have a quick question for this as fast at the end of the meals. No snacks, huh? 56:22 >> Well, we to that a little That was where we you know, maybe we need to reword that 56:25 one. But that's where we're thinking of not overeating, being careful not to continue 56:30 to eat after you've had enough at the meal. Okay. over 8, but in those next week is the fast 56:35 and firm snacking. Okay? That yes. And that's really important, too. It's a really 56:43 good one to choose, perhaps if you want to pick it up. One of these things to stick with for 56:48 your, you know, for the rest of your life, snacking between meals and it's our whole 56:53 society is built around food. you go to a function, there's food. You have a birthday 56:59 party. There's food. >> What little kid falls. Excuse mom gives some piece of 57:05 candy or some, you know, mean? The its its just ingrained in our society. But 57:12 unfortunately, it's not a healthy option. Calories and up so quickly. You know, 6 or 57:21 7 ships make 100 calories. Typically all do you know 100 extra calories a day adds up 57:26 to 10 pounds in a year. >> Wow. Hold on to that thought. that I'm about to 57:32 come down to first hour a we don't want to kill our chips completely, but we want to get 57:38 healthy. Don't go away. We have some amazing insights coming back in the second 57:43 Timeless. >> Healing insights will be light. 57:47 ♪ ♪ |
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