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>> Hello, friends. Welcome to 3.
A B in today tonight here and
West Frankfort at the 3ABN
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Production Center. And my name
is McCain. If you're in the car,
I'm saying that because
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you don't know who's You may
know my voice. And with me is my
lovely wife and 2 along the
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king. Always good to have you on
my right side. >> Always good to
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be here. We blast. We are to be
able to be a part of carrying
the gospel various facets.
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Tonight going to see how the
Gospel is not just biblical, but
the Gospels also spiritual,
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physical, social and mental. And
one of the things I want to talk
about today was going to be
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coming for the next 2 hours. If
you want some encouraging
information about how you can
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activate your life and be
different physically and
spiritual leader says the
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program because we're going to
talk to problem. Call fast, 8
fast Pace. 8 and we'll find
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out what that means. Why 8 Find
out what that means in a moment.
But in America, there
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are issues health issues. Yes,
they are. It's around the world
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that America is in trouble.
Honey, big trouble. It's worse
than everywhere else in the
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world. we have some are going to
talk about which I guess going
to reveal why important to look
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at your life. Not only from the
scope of your career, but from
the scope of your health to what
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can you do about it? And the
good news is you can do
something about it. So we want
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to thank you for that. but also
into thank you for your prayers
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and your financial support of
the network has been continue
going and growing, getting ready
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for the coming of the Lord. What
makes you excited about talking
about health? All there's a
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lot to do with health. I want
to be in health. The Bible talks
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about LG and could possibly be
in good health. And I'm show you
want to be in good health to try
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it. Now, health is wealth, isn't
it? And don't assume because
like me that you in good health.
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an assumption because I want to
be a better health to a you may
be in good, you know,
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physically outside. You look
great. But inside, you could be
tired. And you or not
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function correctly tonight. I
think you get a lot of answers
and the good news we have the
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op opportunity tonight. Are you
calling questions? You can send
in questions one u haul.
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You could write you can e-mail
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Texas White. That's where
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and nowadays with texting,
that's a good thing to do. But
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guests, we have some music
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minister of Music Woman Un her
sing a song, wonderful Merciful
savior. That right.
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And we've been blessed by that.
Yes, but that's not the song.
But that we're gonna be
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used in tonight that they're
going to be singing tonight
after the song will come back
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and introduce you to our guests
and then will be off and
running. We can find out
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how you can be an optimum
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>> Thank you for that to me,
which is, in fact, an answer or
response, actually an
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invitation to come unto me. All
you who are weary and heavy
laden. And I will give
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you rest and everybody needs
to have someone to come to do
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better than Jesus. >> Yes. Well,
honey, why don't you introduce a
cause for us tonight?
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>> Shore talked to David and
Sony Rose Welcome. Good to be
with you and both doctor hear
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that, right? >> Both docked us.
But you also pastor and not you.
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>> That's true. We have the
privilege of being up in Fort
Wayne, Indiana and past ring
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up there. Also seeing this
ministry, timeless healing
insights, Grosso. We partner
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with you on. Your airwaves,
sharing some of the messages
that we're presenting from the
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pope and in Fort Wayne, Indiana.
>> Wow. And you only have one
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church, one church, OK? That's
good. But with all you do, I
think one is sufficient. Yes.
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But for those who may not know
you, somebody might be tuning
in, say. I don't know. The
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couple is. Kind of give us a
little background family chills.
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Sure. Sure. So the Lord called
the so called Me First and the
ministry and medicine.
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>> So I'm a board certified
specialist in internal medicine
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and preventive medicine. They
had the privilege of working
with the many ministries here in
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the United States and partner
with people overseas over the
years, doing a lot of really
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practical cheeses spent a lot of
his time healing see that it's a
privilege that we have
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of being involved in that
profession. But the Lord has
also called the to be a
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teacher, OK? I've taught in both
secular and Christian college
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campuses over the years and also
to pastors. So doing a mix of
those things, have a lot of
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gracious people usually working
around me who realize you can't
do justice to any of those
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things. When you're running in
multiple directions. But we're
part of the body of Christ who
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were losing So, you know, I have
been together for over 30 years
as a team. So you wait a
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little bit background or their
family, OK? So. >> I also went
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to medical school on. That's
where we met a okay and to. And
we have a family. We have 3
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children. They're all grown To a
daughter and 2 sons and the 2
oldest are married and the
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youngest just got engaged. So
he'll be getting married in
October and so we we minister
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together, as he mentioned in
Fort Wayne, Indiana. I also work
part time still as a
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physician out in California,
actually in a rural health
clinic that say a clinic, for
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federally funded government
clinic for the underserved. So
we mainly see people who are
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on public assistance and it's a
real minister area, real
ministry being able to. Work
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with these people. So you fly
the caliphs or fly out every
other month for about a week
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or so. And then I do telehealth
one day. Plus a week in between
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depending on how many people
need to see. >> So you lives
have been dedicated to spiritual
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and physical healing and that's
It's true. It's true. >> You
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know, I like about every time
you every time you hear, you
know, you come in Tuesday, S
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taken may just give us some
insights and we get 2 hours of
free medical and And for those
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of you that are watching and
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That is to this. The only
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guns once again, the
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questions. >> Yes, 618-228-3975.
Text. Your question in for the
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whatever may be or email that
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phone calls tonight and but
we'll be able to take those 2
Matheson. Almost everybody has
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a phone nowadays. I know which
have access to email. Yeah,
we're trying to a little
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taking here 3 again and we have
the curve. That's how you can
get in touch with us. But
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give us a little insight
behind timeless Healing Insights
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Ministries. >> Well, timeless
healing insights has been
something that's been kind of
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going over the course of really
a couple of decades. But really
just formulated really is only
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taking shape in a real concrete
when the last year or so. And so
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it's this whole idea that, you
know, Jesus gives us time list
insights, but it's not just
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spiritual insights. Its for
whole person, healing. And so as
we've looked the work, we've
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done in teaching and medicine
and also preaching, we realize
that these things come
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together in the Bible is really
filled with information that not
only deals with their
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spiritual health but deals with
those other realms of h***. So
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time was healing. Insights is
really a preaching show. But we
drawing a lot of health
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information. So the first series
that aired on 3ABN, another
network throughout the world
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dealing with timeless keys to
resilience, looking at things
that can help us bounce back
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with the Bible has to say about
that and drawing from the the
medical literature,
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the psychological literature.
We've got some programming
coming up on weight loss that
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will be airing on 3 ABN here
shortly. And then we've got
programs that are coming up on
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the Gospel of mark with a
systematically go through the
Gospel of mark and really see
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how imbedded in the gospel
stories or practical healing
insights, mental and physical
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as well as spiritual okay. >> A
lot of people refer to the book
of Luke because was a
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doctor. But Mark has some
insights. Also, Marcus,
fascinating so fan. What's so
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fascinating to me about the
Gospel of Mark is mark with
someone who really was the
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product of social Division. If
you think about it, he was
instrumental in that first
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missionary team that went out to
Paul and Barnabas and then
division comes to to pioneer
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Gospel mission areas over John
Marks likely experienced a lot
You know, people speaking
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behind his back. I mean, here's
the guy that broke up this
powerful missionary team.
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But as we read about Mark's
life, he again is of value to
Paul in the closing days of
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Paul's ministry that I was so
close to Peter and his gospel is
full of things that are so
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practical when it comes to
healing and it's in the book,
you know, as pastors, it's a
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new book where and we even in
her early ministry column,
Martin got along. Well, but as
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Paul got older and wiser says
bring Mark is profitable is good
as good? And also let's
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get you thinking about. >>
excited about today's program,
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whether we what is the gist of
the problem? Well, that just
actually goes back to kind of a
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burden that a number of us
have both in medical circles as
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spiritual circles. >> One of the
conditions that has really been,
I would say even the Christian
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world not treated equally. It.
And that is carrying extra
weight. Yes. And so we're
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speaking about, you know, in
ministry, we've seen all kinds
of prayer requests. You know,
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prayer meetings. But as we were
talking about it. It's almost
unheard of for someone pray
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about someone who struggles with
their weight. we did a recent
interview. I have a
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weekly radio show with a a
leading psychologist in fields.
Name is Jason Willis
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and Jason was talking about the
stigma in our culture song about
about overweight. Just
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give us that a nutshell. >> He
was saying how. People who are
overweight. Ares often
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made fun of look down on people.
I think you must you obviously
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doing something wrong. You're
you're You know, it's OK to he
people say it's OK to make fun
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of people or 2. You know,
criticize them to just be rude
to them because they're
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overweight and I was rather
shocked when I heard that. I
mean, to me, you're nice to you
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should be nice to everybody. I
don't care what ate. >> You
know, look like or act
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like we should be nice to them
as Christians. But I was really
amazed to hear that.
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And I know a friend of mine was
sharing with me shoes. She has
struggled of late over the
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years and has actually lost like
90 pounds over the last 2 or 3
years. Wow. And she was
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saying how? People treat heard
better now. Yeah, that she's
weighs less even though she's
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me still overweight. But she
weighs a lot less than she did.
And she said how people
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treat her you know, more
respectfully now than they used
to. She said, I should
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just be walking down the street
to go for a walk and people
would be yeah, Saying
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heckling her making mean
comments. You know, it just.
Unbelievable to me. And that's
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not my. We have thinking about
things, but it's pretty.
Prevalent out there.
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Apparently, okay. >> Perhaps the
craziest part about it feel as
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we're talking to doctor little
us about this is that a lot of
people think they're helping the
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person by being critical. This
is going to motivate them. You
know, they're they're they're
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telling him that straight.
Another. >> That was fascinating
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to me. He said he shared that
actually did a study on that
where they showed. A video. To
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people who are of normal weight
and people who are overweight
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and the video was remind me it
was something about eating. >>
Actually, actually was
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people overweight in a bad.
Let's write putting something
they watch this video of
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overweight people being made fun
of or whatever I. >> And then
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they then afterwards they had a
spread of food for these people
to watch the video. The people
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who were of normal weight, 8,
the norm, same amount they would
have at any other time.
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The people who are overweight,
8, 3, times the amount of food
after watching that video of
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all, they're overweight. People
being made fun of 3 times 3
times. And I know I've
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had people tell me to the same
that they're doing what they
said when people would make
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fun of me or to, you know, say
you need to lose weight. She's
it would just drive them to go
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and eat more. It's like a
boomerang >> into Instead of
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responding affirmatively this
one, show you. It's not the way
to help with the negativity and
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some other people say it's, you
know, it's a stress response. So
many people eat, you know,
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lot of stress. So the lot of
explanations for it. But but
this background has really
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gonna saying will, as a
Christian community, what are we
doing? That's in the way of
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compassionate. Karen, help for
people who are overweight. And
that's the background for this
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fast a program. So it's a new
program that we're launching try
to take a different angle
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on weight control. Actually
looking at biblical principles
that have a bearing on help is
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not just optimized. Weight but
optimize our health overall. And
it's actually a weight
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loss program. We're not telling
people you're going to lose 50
or 100 pounds and a
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few weeks and not that anyone
would say that. But the point
is, if you change your outlook
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and the folks in the secular
research community like Jason
Lewis, they they call this
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approach to treatment acceptance
and commitment therapy act. What
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they're trying to help people do
is to beat themselves, as we
would say as Christians. We're
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trying to treat other people
that you read through their
their research to the talking
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about loving kindness, how
people should treat themselves
with loving kindness. And
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that's the scariest thing. All
the societal things they get
programmed into people who are
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carrying extra weight. They
start looking in the mirror and
say why am I so bad? I'm
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disgusting. I'm no good. trying
to change that whole narrative
and give people some
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practical help. And so one of
the questions I want to bring up
the slate very briefly that
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highlights the program and we're
going to talk about tonight Fast
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8 because he's something of an
audience to do. >> To be able to
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track along with a strong
dollar. when that graphic up for
me, it will show us some the
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overall picture here it is, if
you could, if you go to a
timeless healing insights Dot
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org. And that's if you
listening. But if you can see it
on the on the on the television
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screen, time healing insights,
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Sign up for free. The free
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beginning February 4, 2023, you
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could download the outline. I
did it. So I have in front of
me. We're going to be gone along
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with that and that will give you
some not just saying say I miss
that. You say, well,
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let's look at this particular
part of the program. So that's
your outline for the program
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tonight. We're going to follow
along. If you're driving. Pull
up before you do that Don't
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try to download anything while
you're driving. But what I'm
hearing you say is. They've
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noticed that this negative
shaming, if I could use that
term is also done by
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Christians. Unfortunately, even
in school kids tease him. >>
With this is a fascinating
00:21:51.54\00:21:58.85
Angela kids as young as 5
years of age when they actually
00:21:58.85\00:22:03.15
research it. They have a
preference. 4, piers, that are,
quote, Finner. So there's
00:22:03.15\00:22:10.49
already a presence that were
imparting this societal e and
then on top of this, our
00:22:10.49\00:22:15.46
society, our culture that we're
in today is really geared to
help people gain weight. I mean,
00:22:15.46\00:22:20.47
it's a real crazy environment.
And if you look at, you know,
the food industry, if you look
00:22:20.47\00:22:25.27
at the, you know, accessibility
of calories, if you look at all
the labor saving devices, you
00:22:25.27\00:22:31.55
know, so we don't have to do the
work that our forefathers did.
Write my son, like one of
00:22:31.55\00:22:37.79
my pet peeves that told us my
wife. >> Why would anybody put a
00:22:37.79\00:22:42.82
motor on a bicycle >> Just get
a moped or get a scooter. But
00:22:42.82\00:22:49.63
bicycles, which I was being
raised. They quite heavily. >>
Nowadays, you can buy a
00:22:49.63\00:22:55.70
bike that has a battery that go
30 miles 60 miles. It's tense to
defeat the purpose.
00:22:55.70\00:23:00.91
And I let you said a lot of but
the cause energy saving devices
or labor say they were
00:23:00.91\00:23:07.18
out whatever. But you know,
that's exactly the point. It so.
00:23:07.18\00:23:09.52
>> So really we're in this
environment were the majority of
Americans are overweight or
00:23:09.52\00:23:13.49
obese by about but a 2 thirds.
And so the issue becomes this is
not abnormal. This is
00:23:13.49\00:23:22.26
actually normal. So why are we
stigmatizing something that our
culture is fostering and
00:23:22.26\00:23:27.40
why are we giving this
messaging? But at the same time,
00:23:27.40\00:23:32.71
there's physical complications.
We see a lot of people in our
practices that likely wouldn't
00:23:32.71\00:23:37.15
be there wouldn't have the
problems to the extent they do
it. If they could even lose a
00:23:37.15\00:23:39.75
little bit of weight, they don't
have to have this magic number.
We want to throw out the weight
00:23:39.75\00:23:45.39
charts right now. We can talk
about that. The program, if you
want, but there's a lot to
00:23:45.39\00:23:47.62
talk about. >> Well, why should
Christian churches be motivated
00:23:47.62\00:23:56.33
to 2 have will help those in the
community that have weight
issues, challenges. We know
00:23:56.33\00:24:00.37
it's interesting where we're
talking about let me just turn
my Isaiah 58, you know, with
00:24:00.37\00:24:05.91
the program's called fast State.
And John, you kind of set the
stage for this. But
00:24:05.91\00:24:10.15
the reason we call fast 8 is
because it's 8 different fasts.
They have a biblical
00:24:10.15\00:24:17.49
basis. and those fast I should
mention this people think a fast
and it's a fast over 8
00:24:17.49\00:24:21.82
weeks. And that's what the
program is about. And I tell
people I'm introducing you
00:24:21.82\00:24:26.73
think going to be really bad.
One fast is bad enough. And it
keeps adding a fast once a
00:24:26.73\00:24:32.73
week for 8 weeks. I'm going to
be What doesn't work that way?
Because I see a 58 with so
00:24:32.73\00:24:37.04
fascinating. Speaking about
fasting, it's not speaking about
just what you do or
00:24:37.04\00:24:41.58
don't do with your diet. Isaiah
58 fascinate with Jews. They're
fasting, having just
00:24:41.58\00:24:49.42
pick it up. and Isaiah 58 >>
Verso let's start first 3. Okay.
00:24:49.42\00:25:00.86
Okay. Why have we fasted? >>
They say and you've not seen
their complaining to God,
00:25:00.86\00:25:04.47
why have we afflicted our souls
and you take no notice instead
of God, then the rest
00:25:04.47\00:25:09.47
of this chapter saying, well,
here you needed to leave off a
more of this or you need to
00:25:09.47\00:25:14.78
eat more of this? No, it has
nothing to do with that. He's
talking about how what they
00:25:14.78\00:25:19.98
were doing while they were
called as they were exploiting
others. They were they were
00:25:19.98\00:25:25.39
mistreating others. So at that
at the high heart of Isaiah 58
in this this biblical chapters
00:25:25.39\00:25:30.53
where the pinnacle chapters and
fasting is it. We've got to be
concerned about. Others
00:25:30.53\00:25:34.30
are going to be ministering to
others. And I say it was a
Christian We have all these
00:25:34.30\00:25:38.97
people that are suffering with
weight related issues. Our
society has fed the shame. The
00:25:38.97\00:25:47.28
guilt. And as a church, we have
something to say So when we say
something, we've made
00:25:47.28\00:25:51.91
it really easy. It's a virtual
program we're launching at this
weekend. And if he can
00:25:51.91\00:25:55.12
jump on, no one's got to see you
doesn't matter whether you're
600 pounds, like some
00:25:55.12\00:25:58.79
of my patients have it well with
working people over 600 pounds,
00:25:58.79\00:26:03.19
I could come into churches and
say you're all fan. You know, I
can tell by looking at you, none
00:26:03.19\00:26:07.20
of, you know, even tips the
scale. And, you know, 500, I'm
like an I bond and say But it's
00:26:07.20\00:26:13.70
just it's just a message that I
think the Christian Church needs
to embrace and try to
00:26:13.70\00:26:16.77
support people on this jury. And
because if you look versus 1, 5,
the talks about, you
00:26:16.77\00:26:23.08
know, just mentions fasting in
in a way so you can break down.
00:26:23.08\00:26:25.75
>> Those 8 as we go along.
That's a church. We have the
00:26:25.75\00:26:32.25
health message. >> Yet we
have so many overweight people,
00:26:32.25\00:26:36.59
including me. >> But this so
many overweight people obese, I
would say. >> But here's the
00:26:36.59\00:26:41.40
first place to started.
Remember, I mentioned throwing
out you know, the body
00:26:41.40\00:26:46.27
composition charts throwing out
the New Year. This toy supposed
to weigh this amount. And the
00:26:46.27\00:26:48.37
reason I say that. So, you know,
I work with so many people over
00:26:48.37\00:26:55.31
the years. could be doing great.
I mean, they may have lost 100
pounds 200 pounds with the
00:26:55.31\00:26:59.05
people of lost lots of weight
and they may still be, quote,
overweight. If we put these
00:26:59.05\00:27:04.05
arbitrary ideas on what you have
to weigh up, it's just
unattainable for some people.
00:27:04.05\00:27:09.32
One of the things we've been
looking at recently talk a
little bit about some of the
00:27:09.32\00:27:12.39
research on prenatal influences,
just bad it is. >> Yeah, that is
00:27:12.39\00:27:18.40
amazing. How they've done
research that shows that if.
When your mother was pregnant
00:27:18.40\00:27:24.41
with you, for instance, if she
had diabetes or just station UL
diabetes. Fat. Predisposes the
00:27:24.41\00:27:34.28
baby actually predetermine is
basically that the baby is going
to have weight issues
00:27:34.28\00:27:37.65
when they get older because and
some of the background of why
that is if someone has
00:27:37.65\00:27:46.59
diabetes, as you well know,
their blood sugar levels tend to
be higher rating. The
00:27:46.59\00:27:51.73
blood, the sugar in the blood
passes through the placenta into
the baby. So the baby's
00:27:51.73\00:27:57.91
blood is is high getting high
blood sugar as well. But insulin
from the mother cannot
00:27:57.91\00:28:04.35
pass through the placenta into
the baby. And so the babys own
pancreas house to overwork
00:28:04.35\00:28:09.65
make more insulin. To take care
of the blood sugar that the
babies being exposed to.
00:28:09.65\00:28:16.59
And that predisposes the baby
actually to being overweight
later in life late in the the
00:28:16.59\00:28:25.07
teen years. I mean, it was some
huge percentage. >> Yeah, it's
00:28:25.07\00:28:30.51
not like the difference between
being normal weight and up to 35
BMI of up to 35 instead of, you
00:28:30.51\00:28:35.74
know, normal 25 or something.
It's just amazing. The
influences this has and then
00:28:35.74\00:28:40.82
the on the flip side, babies who
are very small, too small for
their gestational age.
00:28:40.82\00:28:48.96
>> Born very tiny. Not because
of maybe their parents were very
petite. And they're just,
00:28:48.96\00:28:54.86
you know, on genetically small.
But because of lack of good
nutrition. When the
00:28:54.86\00:29:00.67
mothers pregnant. The babies who
survive, they also will tend to
be overweight because
00:29:00.67\00:29:08.18
and they they think it has to do
with a thrifty. Gene. So that
when the babies, you
00:29:08.18\00:29:13.82
know, when the fetus is being
exposed to if they have this
thrifty gene, that makes their
00:29:13.82\00:29:20.92
body. Conserve energy and store
energy better then when they're
older, they tend to be
00:29:20.92\00:29:29.30
overweight. So it's pretty think
they may even be a small way in
the mother's womb. And
00:29:29.30\00:29:35.67
>> now to small. Yeah, all.
But then it boomer. It just goes
00:29:35.67\00:29:41.21
into them to being overweight.
And the whole reason for talking
about all this is what did you
00:29:41.21\00:29:43.45
have to do with? Life in
your mother's through. >> And it
00:29:43.45\00:29:49.45
reminds me of John 9, you know,
we know that story where the
disciples they see this guy, he
00:29:49.45\00:29:55.56
was blind from birth, OK? And
just like our culture, we tend
to blame the victims through.
00:29:55.56\00:29:59.29
Okay. They were doing the same
thing. They said who sent, you
know, was that this guy? Yeah,
00:29:59.29\00:30:05.23
or as parents, you know, and was
not neither. You know it. It got
00:30:05.23\00:30:11.74
is going to work through this
for his glory. I wish we had the
same attitude with weight. The
00:30:11.74\00:30:16.58
God is going to work through
these things for his glory and
it doesn't mean at the end of
00:30:16.58\00:30:19.11
the day that everyone's going to
look the same. >> I like that. I
00:30:19.11\00:30:23.39
want to bring that up because we
we were reading through your
wonderful outline. and I was
00:30:23.39\00:30:27.26
thinking, well, this is great
sermon material, but isn't this
program on health? And I
00:30:27.26\00:30:32.03
get the connection now and I saw
that in there. How you outline
says we tend to blame
00:30:32.03\00:30:35.40
people for their condition and a
lot right away says it wasn't
his fault. It wasn't as
00:30:35.40\00:30:40.57
parents fault. You know, but the
glory of God might be in the
field. Yeah. So what I'm
00:30:40.57\00:30:47.28
hearing you say then make the
connection just my passes. My
coming in. Now you're saying
00:30:47.28\00:30:52.35
that people are sometimes in the
predispose position, but it's
not. It's not possibility
00:30:52.35\00:30:58.25
for God. I could do some amazing
things in the situation in okay.
00:30:58.25\00:31:02.82
This one. Is that Yeah,
definitely. >> And again, but
the outcome, the outcome, the
00:31:02.82\00:31:08.26
end point is not necessarily
what we would like. So let me
just illustrate this way. So
00:31:08.26\00:31:12.97
years ago, I was the medical
director of a large hospital
based weight loss program. And
00:31:12.97\00:31:17.27
I see these people do great. I
mean, they're losing weight.
They're trimming down, but
00:31:17.27\00:31:21.34
they had some artificial idea of
what they should wait maybe with
their sister weight.
00:31:21.34\00:31:26.51
Maybe as with they way when they
were 12. I don't know what it
00:31:26.51\00:31:29.25
was, but they have this idea
that although I'm starting at
300 pounds, I need to get down
00:31:29.25\00:31:34.59
to one 40 and they get down to
one 80. They've lost 120 pounds.
Yes, but they can't get rid of
00:31:34.59\00:31:39.63
those last 40 pounds in the end
up throwing in the towel. All
they say what and people are
00:31:39.63\00:31:44.47
still telling them. Well, you
look good, but if you just
losing a little bit more weight,
00:31:44.47\00:31:47.00
you're doing great with Ake.
Can't because whatever's on with
their metabolism. What a great
00:31:47.00\00:31:52.51
way for them is one, 80. That's
an ideal weight by ICE. Yeah.
And we do. And as a
00:31:52.51\00:31:58.01
society, we have trouble with
that. And we've told people
that's not OK if you don't
00:31:58.01\00:32:02.65
look a certain way, that's not
okay. You can be healthy and fit
and decrease all your risk
00:32:02.65\00:32:10.83
of disease. Instead, these
people were kicking him off to
the side of the road. They're
00:32:10.83\00:32:13.13
getting discouraged and giving
up the site. My brother, went on
this weight loss program on
00:32:13.13\00:32:16.36
television. Often he package
meals and everything. And he
lost good. What on 40 pounds.
00:32:16.36\00:32:24.94
he's on his to lose. >> Another
20? >> I think if run great,
00:32:24.94\00:32:31.78
many of you right? Very good
point. And he did because he
actually he looked a little too
00:32:31.78\00:32:40.52
thin. Haha. But he looked, you
know, he wanted to lose more
your body says no, that's enough
00:32:40.52\00:32:46.43
threat. Yeah. I mean, for his
age to 60 plus years old, I
mean, so I see what you're
00:32:46.43\00:32:51.17
saying. >> But also hear you
saying I think this is something
00:32:51.17\00:32:56.40
that I want to do. Viewers and
listeners to grab don't allow
society to determine the
00:32:56.40\00:33:01.14
optimal fully online yet. And
that's usually, you know, movies
and the Internet had
00:33:01.14\00:33:06.58
and the billboards and just
society, period. We tend come
press people into a
00:33:06.58\00:33:12.65
pre-determined mold. >> It's
a almost quiet. You know, as you
00:33:12.65\00:33:19.53
know, when you get there and
then we have these charts
because I've seen you mentioned
00:33:19.53\00:33:24.93
BMI body mass index is proper
direct. I've seen these charts
and he said that from country to
00:33:24.93\00:33:30.37
country, BMI, ferries. So the
question is, it says it is it
something that one country's
00:33:30.37\00:33:36.08
genetic 8 exposed to that
another one isn't or somebody
different. Why do we have these
00:33:36.08\00:33:40.22
variables have enough to
something you looked into? >>
It's an interesting
00:33:40.22\00:33:44.52
question it brings back another
point and that is not only are
00:33:44.52\00:33:49.66
there these early life history
factors, both intrauterine and
But also this genetic factors.
00:33:49.66\00:33:55.63
There's body frame factors.
There are societal factors. I
mean, the kind of ethnic
00:33:55.63\00:33:59.53
differences in foods dietary,
this is it. It's all these
things. Our determinants of our
00:33:59.53\00:34:06.74
weight and many of these
determinants are not based on
personal choice. So we can't
00:34:06.74\00:34:13.92
just look at someone size and
say you're not a good Christian
unit, you know, using good will
00:34:13.92\00:34:17.72
power. We met one of the thing
and you can this relates to
question. I've had multiple
00:34:17.72\00:34:21.32
people who wanted to be involved
in health ministry in their
00:34:21.32\00:34:23.39
communities, their societies,
they've they've come to me and
they said, well, I can't do this
00:34:23.39\00:34:26.73
because they weigh too much. And
my message is always been just
go ahead and do it. K because
00:34:26.73\00:34:35.64
the problem is none of us are
going to be perfect in every
respect, OK, so if we have a
00:34:35.64\00:34:41.04
desire to minister minister and
part of ministry, sometimes the
00:34:41.04\00:34:45.38
Lord has us on that journey to
bring other people with us and
to bless us as well. I that wow.
00:34:45.38\00:34:52.75
>> Tell us about this online
program called Fast 8. What is
that? That's an interesting
00:34:52.75\00:34:59.76
one. Interesting title past
8. So it's. >> It's an 8 week
00:34:59.76\00:35:04.90
program involving 8 different
fast soon. As we mentioned
earlier, it's not just that
00:35:04.90\00:35:10.51
we're going to say, well, each
week you got to eat less and
less of, you know, fast more
00:35:10.51\00:35:14.08
from this. And so the first one
is actually the first the first
fast is a what we call the
00:35:14.08\00:35:24.09
leaf stem and flower and there's
another option we'll talk about
00:35:24.09\00:35:31.13
as well. first of all. We want
to describe what leaf stem and
flowers, vegetables are on. So
00:35:31.13\00:35:42.37
leaf. le flour leaf vegetables,
anything that's a leaf spinach.
Callers, kale, let us
00:35:42.37\00:35:54.05
anything like that stem
vegetables, celery, broccoli, of
course, would be a stem and
00:35:54.05\00:35:58.79
a flower or vegetable asparagus.
And then flour, of course, like
00:35:58.79\00:36:04.69
broccoli cauliflower. That kind
of thing. So the from that? No,
those are those vegetables are
00:36:04.69\00:36:10.33
some of the highest. Density
nutrition. Wise with the lowest
calories. Very, very
00:36:10.33\00:36:18.91
healthy for you. And we're
encouraging people to at least
one day. One meal of each day.
00:36:18.91\00:36:28.08
I like to start their meal with
at least one serving of the are
00:36:28.08\00:36:34.62
a vegetable. >> Yeah. And the
interesting thing is this this
is this program is designed so
00:36:34.62\00:36:37.46
that no one fails the program.
Yeah. So we talk about what a
serving is. You can look
00:36:37.46\00:36:44.20
online and on a serving. Some
people says that, you know, cup
of this match to baller or
00:36:44.20\00:36:48.94
a half cup some Ivan, someone
sources the 2 cups, but we see a
serving as whatever you
00:36:48.94\00:36:53.78
decide to So if you want to just
take a bite of celery and that's
going to you're serving
00:36:53.78\00:36:59.38
that someone well into it, you
know what kind what kind of
difference is economic. But
00:36:59.38\00:37:02.58
what we're trying to do is we're
trying to make a program where
00:37:02.58\00:37:06.92
people do it's not onerous. It's
not so hard that you're going to
fail and we're working with
00:37:06.92\00:37:10.93
people. And this is the first
thing that we introduced the
first week. Is using this more
00:37:10.93\00:37:16.33
flour if as we have several
other options of people said,
just can't eat vegetables some
00:37:16.33\00:37:19.03
other options that we've got for
them. But everybody can do
something. We say the only
00:37:19.03\00:37:25.14
people they're not successful
are the ones who drop out of the
8 week program. Okay. We just
00:37:25.14\00:37:28.94
want people to stick with the
program. I'm Anna. We're going
to work with them and you're
00:37:28.94\00:37:31.78
you sign. I signed couple
Stuart. I. >> And I like what
00:37:31.78\00:37:36.12
you said also about what I read.
You can fast for him, greasy
foods fried foods by that coming
00:37:36.12\00:37:47.30
up this what doctors want you
just mentioned. And if you if
you download that, if you
00:37:47.30\00:37:50.57
download the program, I'm
looking at the table here. >> It
is outlined in the 8
00:37:50.57\00:37:55.54
sections Table. One 2023 program
overview and as the beginning
00:37:55.54\00:38:02.74
date of program week. So if you
look at February 5. So this is a
live program today is for a
00:38:02.74\00:38:10.99
second. So you've got 3 more
days to start this And unlike
what you just said, the
00:38:10.99\00:38:14.12
encouraging thing is the only
people that don't succeed are
those who drop prop out. So I'm
00:38:14.12\00:38:19.09
not talking about lowering my
body index. You might be
surprised. I stepped on the
00:38:19.09\00:38:24.70
scale one to nothing. So my with
And I thought since I stopped
being very, very active, I play
00:38:24.70\00:38:31.74
basketball in Hawaii, which is
something I really did high
energy. Yeah. And I thought of
00:38:31.74\00:38:33.94
getting a little, you know. Not
to check and started getting I
00:38:33.94\00:38:38.78
was that I like that. And I
said, I don't like show. Judge,
I showed you get becoming a man.
00:38:38.78\00:38:48.69
I want to haha. No secrets in >>
It is lot like something good.
funny. So you don't have
00:38:48.69\00:38:58.13
to be. >> I well, this tells you
don't have to according to the
00:38:58.13\00:39:03.04
world stands. If you just want
to improve yourself right? So
leave stem and flour fast. If
00:39:03.04\00:39:09.34
you download that, you see it
right in front of the end. I
don't know if we we will.
00:39:09.34\00:39:14.42
>> haven't mentioned this yet.
I'm sure it may come out later,
but I just wanted to
00:39:14.42\00:39:16.28
mention is too, as far as this
program. And this is introducing
00:39:16.28\00:39:24.33
several different things that
you can choose to do. You may
not choose to do you know, just
00:39:24.33\00:39:29.83
stick with all 8 of these things
for the rest of your life. But
its introduction, we want you to
00:39:29.83\00:39:34.94
pick at least one or 2 things
that you will stay with for the
rest of your life. Optimum
00:39:34.94\00:39:42.28
weight loss actually comes one
week shoes, a program that we
can live with that we it's not
00:39:42.28\00:39:49.78
just a crash diet that you go on
for 6 weeks or 8 weeks or
whatever. And then all I can't
00:39:49.78\00:39:54.69
live with this, right? So you
lose weight. If you don't stay
with that, then pretty soon
00:39:54.69\00:40:01.16
you gain the weight Where is
this is something we're wanting
you to find lifestyle
00:40:01.16\00:40:05.47
changes that you can make that
you're happy to live with the
rest of your life. Mike and
00:40:05.47\00:40:10.34
and then as it is, you work that
into your lifestyle and you work
with okay with that.
00:40:10.34\00:40:15.38
Well, then you may say, hey, you
know what, I could do another
one of those. Now, you
00:40:15.38\00:40:19.61
know it. You implement another
one in and it's not a a quick
fix. It's a lifestyle change.
00:40:19.61\00:40:27.66
Over time that really adds up.
And it's something you stick
with. End and you can really
00:40:27.66\00:40:35.70
become successful. >> You know,
that sounds more sustainable,
00:40:35.70\00:40:38.13
then buying food is pre package,
but he's not going to pre
packaged food for rest of your
00:40:38.13\00:40:45.67
Nutley. Okay. Let least them and
I know Chad in parenthesis
there, herbal Jello option. Oh,
00:40:45.67\00:40:54.28
yeah. >> Yes. So for those
people that are determined not
to eat vegetables, that mouthful
00:40:54.28\00:40:58.39
of a seller, that plate of solar
is too much. We do have an
herbal This is something that we
00:40:58.39\00:41:02.96
worked with in one of our at
Venice lifestyle centers some
years ago. It was using to
00:41:02.96\00:41:09.43
sizable plant, fibers, choir gum
and cilium seed husks. I know
this is just sounding
00:41:09.43\00:41:16.24
mouth watering and But both of
these compounds actually help to
stabilize blood sugar.
00:41:16.24\00:41:19.77
We're using it in patients with
diabetes, but also has a set.
Heidi inducing helps you
00:41:19.77\00:41:25.28
to feel more full. You can eat
this at the beginning of the
meal instead of the one
00:41:25.28\00:41:30.82
serving of of least m in flour
vegetable. If you can stomach
00:41:30.82\00:41:35.26
the bench. >> is it too soon to
You you know, you can one day
you can have the vegetables and
00:41:35.26\00:41:40.70
on the day at the Karnes City.
And Joe, we have one recipe in
there. There's other recipes
00:41:40.70\00:41:43.23
that have been used. >> And
my wife is saying we may want to
00:41:43.23\00:41:47.64
refine that. Think this recipe
many this tweaking. This is a
work in progress, OK? They've
00:41:47.64\00:41:53.34
worked with management issues
for over 30 years, but we've
never used this particular
00:41:53.34\00:42:00.88
approach. It's a new approaches.
8 fasting model, OK? And so
we're we've been inviting
00:42:00.88\00:42:03.75
people to join this program that
starts the weekend of February
4th and 5th. That's
00:42:03.75\00:42:08.62
this coming weekend and that
we're doing a live video
presentation Saturday night at
00:42:08.62\00:42:12.43
07:00PM Eastern Time folks can
jump on for that. That program.
00:42:12.43\00:42:18.93
It's all the information is
right there. Through that time
was healing insights website and
00:42:18.93\00:42:22.00
then also. Handout. We're going
to continue to update. So there
you go through what we're
00:42:22.00\00:42:28.24
trying to get your feedback.
People going through the program
to say, well, this is
00:42:28.24\00:42:31.35
not clear when was looking at
some of it saying, you know,
we've got this is the best
00:42:31.35\00:42:36.75
recipe. Don't give a better
recipe that got another one,
too. So anyway, we're going to
00:42:36.75\00:42:41.26
it's interactive and we're we're
rolling this out both for people
00:42:41.26\00:42:47.23
who need it, but also because we
want to work together with
people go on this journey
00:42:47.23\00:42:50.50
together, not just cost free.
Absolutely Foley for all. I
think that So so can I put that
00:42:50.50\00:42:59.54
on my credit card? You actually
speaking your credit card.
timeless healing insights geared
00:42:59.54\00:43:05.38
to putting up free resources.
But you guys know ministry. we
do appreciate people who support
00:43:05.38\00:43:10.75
us because people who were
taking out their credit cards
and making donations to time
00:43:10.75\00:43:15.49
was healing insights. I wouldn't
be here, you know, honestly, so,
00:43:15.49\00:43:21.06
but but it's free. We don't
expect anything. But we are glad
that people are partnering with
00:43:21.06\00:43:25.87
his finance a man. We're going
to encourage that before system.
But just before you asked the
00:43:25.87\00:43:29.80
question. >> You know, I I came
up with the thought I had on my
00:43:29.80\00:43:32.71
mind a moment ago. Yeah, OK, the
program, the fast 8. Why did you
choose a in not 9, 4, not
00:43:32.71\00:43:44.75
7. >> it's an interesting
question. kidding with my wife
00:43:44.75\00:43:47.32
here. You know, the last time we
around we're talking about we've
got a number of 30 day
00:43:47.32\00:43:51.43
programs ounces or about 4 week
programs. And that's when I was
in a week wrote say the
00:43:51.43\00:43:56.83
next time they call us up there,
they might get worried. They're
going to come out with
00:43:56.83\00:43:59.63
a 16 week program, OK, doubling
it. No. But the reason for 8
00:43:59.63\00:44:05.34
weeks, you know, we've done many
programs over the years.
Community programs and for many
00:44:05.34\00:44:09.91
people, it seems like the magic
program like the summer between
4 and 8 weeks. As far as what
00:44:09.91\00:44:15.58
you can get people to commit to
say this is a, you know,
definable block of time. It's
00:44:15.58\00:44:21.32
not like forever, but I could do
this, but it's got to be long
enough to make some significant
00:44:21.32\00:44:24.79
progress Cent. For we programs.
These intensive programs for
00:44:24.79\00:44:30.43
diabetes for high blood pressure
with weight loss. And some of
the things that we're exploring
00:44:30.43\00:44:34.54
like Sonia said, we wanted to
expose people to a number of
different fasting techniques
00:44:34.54\00:44:37.91
over a period of time and then
say at the end of 8 weeks, which
of these things can you
00:44:37.91\00:44:43.78
stick with? We want you to try
to stick with at least one or 2.
That's the goal see an to
00:44:43.78\00:44:51.85
the talks you know, >> actually
from an experience of a a
someone we know came to
00:44:51.85\00:44:58.63
a came to you. David in is
asking advice on. Lifestyle and
weight loss and everything
00:44:58.63\00:45:07.14
in. They had previously tried.
Going on a, you know, total
vegan diet from from just
00:45:07.14\00:45:15.71
late. The regular American.
Diane, just totally jumping in
full but not. When people do
00:45:15.71\00:45:25.32
that, you may be successful for
a while, but unless you have
support and a lot of
00:45:25.32\00:45:27.59
stuff. Help oftentimes people
don't stick with it because it's
too overwhelming. There's
00:45:27.59\00:45:34.60
too many changes and they don't
know how to deal with it. Yeah.
00:45:34.60\00:45:37.87
And she said she's told me this
several times. She said your
husband told me. Don't try to be
00:45:37.87\00:45:42.40
vegan. Don't be vegan. Just make
one change. That you can stick
with for the rest of your life
00:45:42.40\00:45:47.28
and start there. And she's like
I can do that. And so she picked
one thing. That she
00:45:47.28\00:45:56.32
could decide to live with the
rest of her life for us. She
said it was a switching from
00:45:56.32\00:46:02.26
cow's milk to a plant based
milk. I'm just so I can do that.
And she did that. And
00:46:02.26\00:46:09.30
then eventually she started
making other changes once that
was part of her last ounce
00:46:09.30\00:46:13.70
like, you know, I would could do
something else. And you know it
00:46:13.70\00:46:18.07
today. She is centrally. I'm
totally plant based has lost.
Like I said, like 90 pounds in
00:46:18.07\00:46:25.38
the last you know, too, lest
little over 2 years. to post
almost like a Daniel Diet high.
00:46:25.38\00:46:29.72
>> Well, the Daniel tight as one
of the fans from this program.
00:46:29.72\00:46:32.45
So we do have the Daniel Fast
and so different get. But it's
it's these are options. So
00:46:32.45\00:46:38.59
someone may not be ready for
Daniel Fast, we give them. This
is the last fast that we
00:46:38.59\00:46:43.43
introduced in the program. So
this is a, you know, total plant
based diet. The Daniel Fast,
00:46:43.43\00:46:47.17
just water and plant based diet.
Some folks are not ready for it.
So we say at least to the Daniel
00:46:47.17\00:46:52.27
Fast, that annual did all his
life and some Christians say
what was the Daniel Fast? He
00:46:52.27\00:46:58.28
did all He excluded the unclean
food to some level cause on
00:46:58.28\00:47:00.68
clean foods. So we talk about
that in the program. So that's a
little bit more manageable for
00:47:00.68\00:47:06.15
folks who don't take away their
their red meat in there. And
there's some of their fish and
00:47:06.15\00:47:09.52
things like Some people they get
mad. They 2 rows. Why you're
doing this is not the
00:47:09.52\00:47:15.90
ideal diet. You have to meet
people where they're at true and
we're trying to help
00:47:15.90\00:47:19.77
people do things like Sonia said
that they can embrace and stick
with and they may end
00:47:19.77\00:47:23.41
up. At the very place you are. I
think they should have been all
along, but they may not.
00:47:23.41\00:47:30.11
And that's OK, it's a journey.
>> Yeah, it is. But can fast and
keep the weight off.
00:47:30.11\00:47:36.25
>> It can fast. They were
talking about not fasting, that
you're doing some kind of
00:47:36.25\00:47:41.56
extreme caloric restriction.
Yeah, but you can stick with for
the rest of your life.
00:47:41.56\00:47:44.79
We're talking about fasting
techniques that you can do long
term. So all these 8
00:47:44.79\00:47:50.50
fasting techniques can actually
be done long-term. We're not do
00:47:50.50\00:47:53.50
it. I've done things with water
only fastened on this. This
fasting regimen doesn't use
00:47:53.50\00:47:56.97
that. We don't use any of those
medically supervised faster
things we're looking at
00:47:56.97\00:48:03.14
fasting techniques that you can
use long term. This would all
faster. What about someone
00:48:03.14\00:48:06.31
with diabetes? That is one of
the caveats, right? Sonia? Yes.
00:48:06.31\00:48:15.56
>> Especially with the any kind
health issue, as a good example,
we encourage you to
00:48:15.56\00:48:21.10
work with your physician anytime
you're making any significant
00:48:21.10\00:48:24.73
lifestyle changes. Because when
you do that, it's going to
affect your blood sugar levels
00:48:24.73\00:48:29.47
and your need to work with your
physician to perhaps change in
medication, dosages center.
00:48:29.47\00:48:35.51
>> Now, before we go to the next
question of the next week, when
remind our viewers,
00:48:35.51\00:48:38.41
you can send your questions in.
You can e-mail those to lies at
TV or text them to 6,
00:48:38.41\00:48:48.32
1, 8, 2, 2, 8, 39. 75. Send your
medical questions and maybe
about what you've heard
00:48:48.32\00:48:53.46
so far a week one, we have 7
more weeks to cover, which I
know we're going to cover this
00:48:53.46\00:48:56.87
said either in not in this first
hour, but definitely in the
second hour. But I'm I'm
00:48:56.87\00:49:03.37
really excited about the fact
that it body can be involved in
the fasting. I just want to
00:49:03.37\00:49:07.41
point this out. You mean
fasting? Are you reading this
that we meals? That is one of
00:49:07.41\00:49:14.08
the fast. So we roll that out.
>> That's actually fast that
fast. Number 2. Okay. Well,
00:49:14.08\00:49:22.56
no, I take that back. That's
fast. That's coming later fast.
Number 2 is I don't want
00:49:22.56\00:49:25.43
to go in order or whatever, but
fasting at the end at the end of
that, so fast. Number 2
00:49:25.43\00:49:33.34
is fasting at the so is fasting
at the end of your meals. But
00:49:33.34\00:49:37.11
it's what he's talking about.
His not overeating. So quitting
when you have had enough rather
00:49:37.11\00:49:42.34
than continuing to sit there and
eat little nibble. Nibble
nibble. And you know, which is
00:49:42.34\00:49:46.95
easy to do, especially if you're
mindlessly eating and if say
00:49:46.95\00:49:55.39
you're watching a something. you
know, and you just continue to
sit there and eat and eat. And
00:49:55.39\00:50:00.80
before you realize it, you've
eaten way too much and you you
know, I too much. That's not
00:50:00.80\00:50:06.23
that's not healthy. And of
course, it's adding extra
calories that you don't need. So
00:50:06.23\00:50:12.24
being conscious of what you're
eating being aware when you're.
00:50:12.24\00:50:18.75
When you've had enough, some of
the things that can help with
that one is to not be too fast
00:50:18.75\00:50:23.99
as if week inhaler food, so to
speak. We it's easy to eat way
too many calories before we
00:50:23.99\00:50:30.83
realize that we're even falls.
So that's one thing that can
help. And the other thing that
00:50:30.83\00:50:36.70
can make a big difference is if
we still stay well hydrated, if
00:50:36.70\00:50:39.80
you're drinking enough water
between meals. It helps you not
to overeat at meals. Because
00:50:39.80\00:50:47.41
your body misinterprets first as
hunger. So if you're dehydrated,
you will tend to eat more.
00:50:47.41\00:50:54.18
>> want to grab that, OK, if you
if you're not hydrated in on
that, your body tends to
00:50:54.18\00:51:01.22
interpret that as as hunger.
I need to treat water. I've been
00:51:01.22\00:51:10.90
telling >> Has opposed water. I
mean, do you drink your water?
>> You know, water always
00:51:10.90\00:51:14.14
teams going 03:00PM program. >>
Maybe I should be in the Senate.
Want to treat walking.
00:51:14.14\00:51:19.57
Just kidding with that. But no,
really, you don't think about it
until because the one
00:51:19.57\00:51:24.98
with sitting on the said just
kind of give you a program. here
00:51:24.98\00:51:30.29
that is that's my terminology. I
can't get up and walk over
refrigerated pickup juice or so
00:51:30.29\00:51:36.32
to. Yeah. For some the lemonade
or something like that. So you
it tends to just satisfy when
00:51:36.32\00:51:42.83
it's right in front of us. I
really the finish that the
finish that. And that's why we
00:51:42.83\00:51:48.14
recommend at least we and we
always try to practice. >> If
we're going out. Away
00:51:48.14\00:51:52.84
from home, we take water with
us. Because you can't get enough
water to satisfy your
00:51:52.84\00:51:59.85
thirst from a high school
drinking fountain. And
furthermore, it usually
00:51:59.85\00:52:03.35
doesn't taste good because
foreign aid water so get
filtered water. Have a filter
00:52:03.35\00:52:08.42
in your house or get the reverse
osmosis refills from Wal-Mart or
00:52:08.42\00:52:13.96
whatever. A lot of Wal-Mart
stores have Ro filter stations
where you can get very
00:52:13.96\00:52:17.63
reasonably. Take your water with
you. So that you can get and you
know, stay well, hydrated. You
00:52:17.63\00:52:25.17
know, so what does the Bible
bases for fasting when we talk
about fasting is so many ways
00:52:25.17\00:52:28.44
you can do it. Yeah. Yeah.
There's multiple Bible, rational
for fast and we've mentioned the
00:52:28.44\00:52:33.52
Daniel Fast. That's Daniel
Chapter one. in Daniel Chapter
one, the most Bible students
00:52:33.52\00:52:38.05
still the background to be
Daniel. >> And his friends were
00:52:38.05\00:52:41.09
taken captive to Babylon and
they're basically put into a
situation where their offer, the
00:52:41.09\00:52:47.50
so-called best food that can be
offered to its food from the
king's table right. Daniel
00:52:47.50\00:52:51.87
realizes that this is not the
best diet. He's been enlightened
00:52:51.87\00:52:58.24
by guide the eye. And so he
says, you know, I'm not going
eat this food and he fully
00:52:58.24\00:53:06.65
appeals to get a different died
in that diet has been identified
as the first clinical trial
00:53:06.65\00:53:10.82
dietary clinical trial in
history. There's a debate in the
New England Journal of Medicine
00:53:10.82\00:53:14.76
with journals years ago. talking
about what was the first
clinical trial and these
00:53:14.76\00:53:21.96
experts came to the conclusion
it was Daniel Chapter one. But
were Daniel went on This plant
00:53:21.96\00:53:26.77
based diet and water didn't have
the wind and the fine. That's
Delicacies as the King
00:53:26.77\00:53:33.54
of Babylon and at the end of
those 10 days. His health with
superior, that was the
00:53:33.54\00:53:40.18
assessment. So, yeah, so there's
all kinds of things that lay the
00:53:40.18\00:53:43.62
foundation for fasting and
there's other scriptures that we
sometimes go through and in
00:53:43.62\00:53:47.96
Proverbs and other places
speaking about, I would put it
this way. The basic message that
00:53:47.96\00:53:54.46
we're emphasizing his message of
true temperance. We were talking
with people about this
00:53:54.46\00:53:58.50
whole idea of avoiding things
that are harmful and doing
things that are good in
00:53:58.50\00:54:03.30
moderation. And I tell him the
good news is God has promised us
as one of the gifts of the
00:54:03.30\00:54:08.58
spirit in Galatians 5. The
temperance is one of those gifts
on like we're calling
00:54:08.58\00:54:12.35
you to do something that God
hasn't already provided to give
00:54:12.35\00:54:20.16
you success in Temperance. like
that. mean, I'm I'm thinking
about that. That's really good
00:54:20.16\00:54:23.93
application. >> The Daniel Diet
and he just did it for 10 days.
00:54:23.93\00:54:29.53
right. And it was another low
cost program. That's what if I
do this for 10 days and see how
00:54:29.53\00:54:33.90
it's going. >> I think I keep
going for the rest of the time
00:54:33.90\00:54:39.81
finance and Daniel did, too. I
mean, he didn't didn't just he
didn't stop. After 10 days.
00:54:39.81\00:54:46.08
can, too. But they can see the
difference in 10 days. >> So you
know, we didn't get
00:54:46.08\00:54:51.22
the rest of the story because
the Bible doesn't include that.
But I could imagine.
00:54:51.22\00:54:54.42
>> Some of the other people in
the courts that. Could you give
us what he had because
00:54:54.42\00:55:00.90
they are very wise. He was
smarter, healthier looking
Farrah and when the virus is
00:55:00.90\00:55:04.97
fatter and the King, James
version healthy, look how look
radiant and they were wiser
00:55:04.97\00:55:09.77
and wisdom. And when you think
about it, the way that
communicates to us, his he
00:55:09.77\00:55:14.98
communicates through this organ
that he created, which includes
00:55:14.98\00:55:18.41
on mine. If your blood pressure
is too high. I'm talking to to
talk to see what happens when
00:55:18.41\00:55:25.79
your blood pressure is on a lat.
so that's good. good. What
happens if you over talks
00:55:25.79\00:55:31.03
talking with toxic Texas? It >>
I mean, all these things so
huge. And we don't make these
00:55:31.03\00:55:35.86
connections often. But the
brain, like you mentioned,
that's the medium of
00:55:35.86\00:55:40.50
communication. You know, holy
spirit speaking to us through
our brains, which are part of
00:55:40.50\00:55:44.34
our physical body. You know,
brands are physically okay. And
so if your blood pressure
00:55:44.34\00:55:49.44
is high, we know that increases
your likelihood, having dementia
00:55:49.44\00:55:54.65
carrying extra weight,
especially if combined with
diabetes may increase risk of
00:55:54.65\00:55:58.75
dementia, fourfold and that
range. So we're talking about
things that affect the clarity
00:55:58.75\00:56:03.49
of our mind, which is directly
impacting our spiritual walk
that is interesting. I mean,
00:56:03.49\00:56:10.90
that a we've the leave stem in
flower. Oh, yeah. And that's
week notice into week one.
00:56:10.90\00:56:17.34
It's have a quick question for
this as fast at the end of the
meals. No snacks, huh?
00:56:17.34\00:56:22.41
>> Well, we to that a little
That was where we you know,
maybe we need to reword that
00:56:22.41\00:56:25.71
one. But that's where we're
thinking of not overeating,
being careful not to continue
00:56:25.71\00:56:30.02
to eat after you've had enough
at the meal. Okay. over 8, but
in those next week is the fast
00:56:30.02\00:56:35.49
and firm snacking. Okay? That
yes. And that's really
important, too. It's a really
00:56:35.49\00:56:43.60
good one to choose, perhaps if
you want to pick it up. One of
these things to stick with for
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your, you know, for the rest of
your life, snacking between
meals and it's our whole
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society is built around food.
you go to a function, there's
food. You have a birthday
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party. There's food. >> What
little kid falls. Excuse mom
gives some piece of
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candy or some, you know, mean?
The its its just ingrained in
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our society. But unfortunately,
it's not a healthy option.
Calories and up so quickly. You
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know, 6 or 7 ships make 100
calories. Typically all do you
know 100 extra calories a day
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adds up to 10 pounds in a year.
>> Wow. Hold on to that thought.
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that I'm about to come down to
first hour a we don't want to
kill our chips completely, but
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we want to get healthy. Don't go
away. We have some amazing
insights coming back in the
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second Timeless. >>
Healing insights will be light.
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