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>> Hello and welcome to 3 again
today live. We're so glad that
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you joined us this evening.
One of the reasons we enjoy
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spending these 2 hours with
use because you're part of the
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3ABN, families. And we just
want to say thank you for your
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prayers and financial
support for this ministry
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because because of you, we're
able to reach the entire world
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for Jesus Christ, right?
And that's with Reagan is all
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about is about spreading the
gospel, especially in these end
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times. But tonight's two-hour
special live program is going
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to be really
fun, isn't it tonight?
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>> It is indeed because we
have an incredible document too
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early to talk about and share
that came from the Adventist
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Review Media team.
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>> Wait, you said we're going
to watch the documentary night.
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Oh, wow. That is
unusual for today. Life program.
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>> Siad this story and the
testimony of a changed life and
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how that life is changing and
influencing and impacting his
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community and the world for
Christ. So we want to introduce
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to you our family around
the table tonight. Elder bill,
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not we have known and loved
you for many years. He is the
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executive editor of 73
View Ministries and it is a
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privilege to have you here.
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>> It is a delight to finally
get to be here to talk with you
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about this, this product that
we're really pleased to share
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with the theme. You know, thank
you so much for your support.
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Also 3, again, through the
years and like Joe mentioned,
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your friend to us personally,
but also to the ministry 3.
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Then you're all about
supporting ministries in the
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course of work for the obvious
church for many, many years.
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But your heart is in evangelism.
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>> Well, you know, you see
what God is doing. I had the
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privilege of doing this around
the world. And you think that's
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a story that just has to
be told somewhere else. Other
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people are going to be changed
or moved by it. And that's been
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the privilege to be able
to pick those stories and help
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introduce them through friends
and other media opportunities
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and then.
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>> So for those that don't know
you, you have a wife to start
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your kids, grandkids, and how
long you've been in ministry.
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>> But in ministry, 43 years,
wow, and pastored for about 18
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of those years. And for the
last 25 years, I've been that
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they had been a
street view. And in the last
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2 thirds of that time, 16 years
as the executive editor it it,
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I have grown up a long in
the tooth is the and actually it
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surprises me every now and
again, when I look around and
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realize just the span and
how my own life it's changed.
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My wife, Debbie, is that
systems as a manager in General
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Conference, human Resources
Department file and heavily
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engaged between it and
human resources. I have 2 sons.
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One is a pastor and
communication director of the
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Chesapeake Conference. Evan and
his wife live just 20 minutes
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from us. My other son Brady is
a physical therapist and he and
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his wife and our 2 krantz.
It's a way as well. So it's a
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wonderful time in our lives
to be close to them and to to
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really enjoy what God has given
us as a as an extended family.
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And then
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>> you notice how he said and
2 friends. So I did notice that
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the grand kids family again, it
is priced alert for that coming
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around the table here. We
have Gabriel Bagel, who is the
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director of digital platforms
for adding to its review
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ministries. And we have gotten
to know you more recently,
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of course, an elder not
but Gabriel as well is a man of
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God. And so appreciate not
only your creativity and skill,
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but your heart for people.
It's right. Thank you for being
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here tonight.
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>> Thank you for having me.
It's a pleasure. So tell us a
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little bit of what you've done
and your family as well because
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you've been a media
probably since you were a baby.
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>> One that's true. Up in the
in the house of an evangelist
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okay in South America. So
my dad and mom have, you know,
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the cable shows Shannon's,
he's, you know, as a child.
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So, yeah, it's been a that
experience and also throughout
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college when I was studying
theology, you know, help,
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you know, in production, but
not the end. More recently more
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formally put a conference
Hearst and then they work for a
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channel for Dickey allowed
in and how the privilege is for
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for years now. This working
together with with Bill not
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I've been through ministries.
Families have small family.
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My wife, Annie have been
married for 14 years. Wow.
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And a half to, you know, long
waiting period. God blessed us
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with that with a little girl
that is for you for your soul.
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Now the 2 and a U.S. change our
life. Haha. So, yeah, you know,
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people confuse that
little kid with, you know, our
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granddaughter,
but it's not that.
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>> Had the privilege of meeting
her a few months ago. Leach to
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cute adorable thing.
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>> Good. So before we jump into
the documentary, tell us just a
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little bit older, not about the
umbrella of Atlanta's to review
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ministries and
what that's all that.
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>> The name is probably the
best to recognize. Brandon had
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been to some some surveys show
that a few years ago. And for
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most people, that means a
magazine to print journal they
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grew up with when I came to the
ministry. That's what it meant.
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It. I've I've thought that
God must have a great sense of
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humor to bring a historian who
loves paper in print in to lead
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into the digital age of the
magazine because it's not my
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custom to world. It's not the
world I would choose. I when I
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want to read something, I don't
go online and I want to curl up
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in the corner and read
something hard copy. And so the
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irony of my coming to the
Ministry of the moment of just
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explosive growth in the media
generally and specifically the
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development of digital
platforms for administrative
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you, including making
documentaries that something I
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can't even pretend I saw on the
horizon. It might be tempting
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to say yes, this is part
of some big strategic vision.
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No, the Lord brought us people
like Gabriel who have a vision
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for non print story. Tele
digital storytelling showing us
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in ways that connect
better with younger generations.
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Matricula early how to convey
the same truths in beautiful
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new ways. And the timeless
story of God's redemption in
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people's lives is really the
purpose that made us move as a
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whole ministry and in this case
toward telling the story in a
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documentary. Yeah.
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>> And then I want to
just touch on the aspect of the
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atmosphere. You review
your talking about print. Yeah,
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and you're talking about
digital which doesn't mean that
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the Evers evidence review is
just on your cell phone in your
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talking. Actually video
audio evidence review and doing
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documentaries. But you
also have avenues for our TV.
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Tell us a little bit about
that, too, because some of you
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say, well, there's more
than just documentaries.
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>> Evidence review TV is really
in part the creation of Gabriel
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and several others on the team
who brought together an idea
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that we could have is an
on-demand platform. Each are
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the best of Adventists
programming and creating a
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place that's family friendly
where individuals can go in
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search. But Harry Uhl's by
category. You want to watch a
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nature video with your family
on Friday night. You've got
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many choices. You want to
have a children's programming.
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Many choices. You want to
look at the theological content
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where you want to look at
mission will content. We're
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giving people giving are
viewers choices is really what
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we've learned is the future
of our ministry. When print will
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always be a core component,
correct. And we do that in vast
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quantities. But in the last 7
years, particularly has helped
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us branch out, particularly
evidence. Review TV is probably
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one of our best known products
now because it has hundreds of
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pieces of content that reach
across all kinds of topics.
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So how does somebody go there
and find this content for the
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Web site?
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>> Yeah, they just go to live
in to review that TV in this
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case, the o*** with big them
to our main Web site. But if you
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do that TV, then they can come
to our media platform. Logan is
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free, of course, and then
consume the content perhaps to
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only add a little bit to what
you said, Bill, hard to up to
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that that the the the emphases
that were placing even though
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moving forward is that we want
to have the same for season 2,
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it quit paying. That's how his
case to members to go and make
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disciples as well. So that's
an infancy sets and love that.
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That's the historic mission
of the ministry from 18. 49,
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not simply too.
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>> To help people feel
comfortable in being at Venice,
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but to help them feel
comfortable in sharing that
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data. And the the focus that
is particularly coming in the
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months ahead will align
our content with that equipping
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side even more
directly. I'm very good.
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>> We're going to be going
to the documentary which we're
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talking about. So want to
set that up for us because we're
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going to do this
evening. It's about a one-hour
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documentary. We're going to
talk about a little bit of set
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it up. Watch about 30 minutes
of it. Go to the break and come
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back. Watch the next 30 minutes
or so and then close this this
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2 hours but set the story of
force because this is a really
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powerful story. Joe and I have
the opportunity of seeing the
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did debut mayor say was
that about 3 years ago move just
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almost exactly 3 years ago.
Yes, it's powerful testament to
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set this up for us.
We're getting ready to see.
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>> Sometimes as a said, the
Lord brings a story you didn't
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expect and and shows you
something you never knew was
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coming. I was in Europe on
several items related to the
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business of having a street
view and was asked to make a
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visit on a very financially
successful. Dennis does miss
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and to see if he would be
interested in investing in a
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film production. I had never
met him. I got directions to
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the tiny little farm town.
He lives in outside of Prague.
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And in the summer of 2008, he
made my way out there. Not only
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did he agree to help invest in
the film. He started telling me
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a bit about his life, walked me
around the town and they began
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realizing what this man had
contributed to his community.
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His own personal story was so
compelling. I thought I said to
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him,
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the team has
anyone told your story.
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I've told him that a few of
Angeles tick meetings, but no
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one else was sure that I said
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we will do that game. And
and so it took us a year to get
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everything organized, to
get the film crew to get our own
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team ready to go and to
get into his schedule. It takes
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months to get into this very
busy man schedule. So in the
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summer of 2019, good Gabriel
and the team that include crew
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from Ukrainian Hope Media
Center. They drove from the
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Ukraine down to be with us in
the Czech Republic. Here we are
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all gathered in this this tiny
little farm town where he lives
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and
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you begin to understand us.
His story unfolds that God has
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been at work in this man's life
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since he was a
child. Well, much of it in
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careful, slow developmental
ways. Until finally, he was
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ready to make a
decision for faith,
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even in the midst of some
very difficult life stirs.
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>> That's what I was going
to ask is why his story. There's
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many people with many powerful
stories. We know that he went
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from sweeping the streets
yesterday to owning this yet.
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So he's wealthy. He's a
businessman. He gives back.
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But why specifically his story?
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>> I have never
met anyone who uses
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the wealth. God has blessed
him with quite as easily meaning
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his his sense of I must return
this to the people around me.
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If you look at it, the
community he's helped to build
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in his little farm town.
If you look at what he's done
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in his business park in Prague,
you begin to get a sense that
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here's a man who believes that
what God has blessed me with
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Imus to return to bless
the lives of others so that if
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they're the one out sweeping
the streets today, God may have
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a future for them that
they haven't even envisioned.
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That's powerful.
But you get real.
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>> You're involved with
this documentary. You're the
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producer, correct? And we
tried, you know, one thing that
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the bill has some really
one of the things he's at.
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And can you just mentioned that
we try to work with teams and
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people around the world
that are willing to, you know,
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to see the vision and go
for it. So in this case, yeah,
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we produced it. We helped on
that in the assembled a team in
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this case, this young team
from the Ukraine came to help us
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drove was a way to Czech
Republic. It was amazing to see
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18 year-old drone operator
do the same. But just because
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you're going to see another
view is that, you know, your
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audience is going to see now
these beautiful shots. So the
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young vibrant team and we
had Rico, he'll do it the film.
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So he did an amazing job
of that. And of course, having
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bill, not the storyteller and
you know, that sealed the deal
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in a in a cope. The move us how
can can, you know, see how this
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story unfolds. This
is a beautiful stuff.
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>> You know, and also one
thing that's impressed us, too,
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is that he's very much mention
of businessmen, but he's a
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member of a U.S. I would you
at home are very few moves as it
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has been involved as side
for a long, long time. This man
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believes the spreading
the gospel in his sphere of
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influence, which his sphere
of influence is huge. But it
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didn't start out that way.
And that's where we're getting
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ready here this evening.
This wonderful story, what God
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has done and redeem pastors,
pastors life. So let's go to
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the beginning of this
documentary right now.
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[MUSIC]
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[MUSIC]
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>> I really have to see it for
myself. Man described as having
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it all.
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Super sports cars. The
Cayenne featured in young men's
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fantasies,
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[MUSIC]
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the dream home with a
lovely Christian family.
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[MUSIC]
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With all that, why would anyone
spend time money and so much
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effort to make sure that others
know that Jesus Hooper, him has
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become savior
and Lord of Everett.
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I've traveled to Prague in
the Czech Republic to learn
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firsthand the story
of good being passed.
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[MUSIC]
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[MUSIC]
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He's a man who's triumphed over
personal tragedy, trials and
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setbacks to be used by
God in the most unusual ways.
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[MUSIC]
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[MUSIC]
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I'm bill down
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and the journalist in
me loves a good story.
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[MUSIC]
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Redeem lives
just outside Prague.
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This historic city often
referred to as beautiful Prague
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is one of the word of
mouth favorites for seasoned
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travelers and
those who love history.
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I've read about redeems wealth.
It would be hard to ignore the
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way his name shows up
on business and real estate
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websites that
feature development. You're
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[MUSIC]
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[MUSIC]
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I've even read descriptions of
his missionary work around the
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world and his affection for
the little town step could get
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sick.
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He rebuilt key parts of this
old farming village added value
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to it in ways that enrich the
residents lives. It's a town of
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less than 300 people.
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It's a place where redeem
has built a unique relationship
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with his neighbors
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[MUSIC]
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[MUSIC]
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in the Bible. Jesus says that
it's easier for a camel to go
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through the eye of a needle
than for a rich man to enter
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heaven. We're going to see
if that's true in this case.
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[MUSIC]
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[MUSIC]
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>> This is my life. But about a
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[MUSIC]
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we've met in 2012 on
the later, some was born
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[MUSIC]
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2015. And then
there's some Benjamin was born
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[MUSIC]
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and the amount
that was born in 2018.
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[MUSIC]
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[MUSIC]
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[MUSIC]
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>> It's very
apparent. It takes both.
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>> Mother and father to raise
3 active boys. What's it like to
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try to raise 3 sons
who are all very active?
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>> Every to go to court
to. So it's it's a good rule of
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law. Need to thank should have
been as one of them. Did you
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come to my mind? The local
to so can say you'll need that
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gets a little bit ala this
image of him. He should be fun,
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but its addiction is
that that can make a run.
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>> Redeem how do
you balance a very
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busy corporate career with a
commitment to 3 boys under the
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age of 6?
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>> You have 2 bombs, of course,
every day that their time I
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have. So the big portions
of its gross, my business,
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it's my ministry. It's my
family. Sometimes you have
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folks from their stronghold
east, but in the end to its
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really important to spend your
time with their kids because
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it's one of the best investment
you can do. The commission
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parents. It's that
important to so kits for Jesus.
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>> It was worshipped eye to
eye 100 game's oldest son redeem
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junior, joined them sitting
with redeem and reflecting on
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his little ones. I found myself
thinking about how redeem sons
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are near perfect replicas
of him when he was their age.
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Redeem pastor was born in 1963.
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just 5 years before
the remarkable flowering of
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democracy known
as the Prague Spring,
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[MUSIC]
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a brief moment of
hope that was squashed,
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which echoes of kit was invaded
by the Soviet Union and several
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Warsaw pact nations.
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>> You grew up at a time
that was very difficult in this
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country. In fact, in your book,
you refer to this era as the
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building of Socialism
era. What was it like being a
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teenager at the time
of communist dominance in
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Czechoslovakia?
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>> Because the main issue for
most of the people also local
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freedom, my
childhood full squad.
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But the in my teenage H I could
still more and more one B of a
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and both of you a lack of
freedom and our come to an end
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to it the most encouragement.
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>> By August 1968, Soviet
and Warsaw pact armies invaded
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Czechoslovakia and restored
normalization. Postponing your
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hopes that some day
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you might really be free
as God created you to be.
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>> For a man whose life is very
different now, how do you look
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back at that time?
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>> Of course, the life growth
in this first show isn't worth
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substantially lower than today.
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>> Did you ever have any idea
that you might someday have a
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life like this?
The time for sure, not.
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>> In the late 1970's,
there were many ways up and out
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toward freedom. But one of
them was sports during his teen
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years. Redeem knew
exactly what he wanted to be
00:21:45.20\00:21:49.60
a professional soccer player.
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>> Many young boys the to be
the best soccer player in the
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world. The same with me.
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[MUSIC]
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[MUSIC]
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I was 11. I started to play for
the legal team would hit me and
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Brown. I was quite the
talent. It and I like to do.
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>> Nice things with the ball
and scored 2 goals. The things
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is a lot of school and I knew
and I met in the first guy I
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want to behind him and he is
Chatham after that to be shared
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at able to get to go to that.
It was an excellent football,
00:22:25.94\00:22:29.94
right? He would always
play would be pulled out of that
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feet are 40 years older than
him. And he was really good for
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about 15 years. You will
receive those about to vote.
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>> When I was 18 and I started
to play the Juno, the you know,
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come to I get a
little bit crazy.
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[MUSIC]
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>> Yeah, that was a moment
where they're at and, you know,
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some parties from become
second. So that's when he
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changed most of that ring
out the whole I started to small
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and it really didn't help.
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>> But prices could go
to the next 6 years off.
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>> Growth to put in my life.
You wrote very candidly in your
00:23:06.48\00:23:10.32
autobiography about visiting
bars and clubs and casual
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relationships. In fact, one
friend advised a young woman be
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very careful over the he's
a womanizer. Unfortunately,
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it was this true.
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>> But after my high
school dignity, I have 2 options
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long to go for 2 years for the
communist Army. And the second
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option food will come to
know it's that in the universe.
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So I truth to come to know
where to start it. But the I I
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wasn't good student.
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>> You weren't able to finish
that degree and that by the
00:23:43.69\00:23:48.02
time you are in your
early 20's, you actually found
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yourself
00:23:51.93\00:23:53.03
working as a street sweeper.
Yes, it was always too good.
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>> Some money. I'm going to
the pop for both my parents.
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I didn't want to help
me with my b*** lifestyle.
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When I was 24, I understood I
destroyed my life. I spoke with
00:24:07.84\00:24:13.18
my friends today. I commend
it to me to start that something
00:24:13.18\00:24:18.19
in the gym, Floyd and off to
run the year with some positive
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progress. I quit smoking.
I went back to my team and
00:24:22.32\00:24:27.76
soaker better shortly after my
knee injury came so I couldn't
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play on the top level on the
Czech German got it from a real
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estate office coming to
work for him and spring golf.
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9 thing he cited a chicken
in public was just to buy the
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report. This I helped him
to find a suitable properties
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which were potential for
buying. I've got some good to
00:24:48.25\00:24:51.35
put the nation from the
banks and when I started my own
00:24:51.35\00:24:55.19
business the and go
from 90 on banks trusted.
00:24:55.19\00:24:59.29
>> My first
impression of him last.
00:24:59.29\00:25:02.23
Wow. This is thing. You
saw the check and a grandmother
00:25:02.23\00:25:06.74
and he was trying to be very
honest from the beginning in
00:25:06.74\00:25:11.97
the 90's there given the ticker
publicly leaf and a little bit
00:25:11.97\00:25:19.38
too wild to rest at the
beginning. We just just bored.
00:25:19.38\00:25:24.02
>> From the parties and off
to quite a short time, the fold.
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>> The game, the Bushnell says
really brain a poll that they
00:25:27.99\00:25:33.03
cause. He think I'm
like the best in people.
00:25:33.03\00:25:38.07
I'm a specialist in real estate
finance in the 90's. We stopped
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it to finance the first awfully
schools and shopping center.
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Send industry properties
interest rates at the time.
00:25:46.27\00:25:51.01
Checking the public will spread
to high. It was impossible to
00:25:51.01\00:25:54.12
keep the real estate for a
long time. So Mister Fossa came
00:25:54.12\00:25:58.12
late. Varied big Moe. The upper
house put them older in the
00:25:58.12\00:26:04.43
middle of the table. And and
of the people tried to persuade
00:26:04.43\00:26:08.40
the banks here and she took
it public to finance the forest
00:26:08.40\00:26:11.97
offices here.
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[MUSIC]
00:26:17.14\00:26:22.14
[MUSIC]
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[MUSIC]
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[MUSIC]
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>> New winds were beginning
to blow in Czechoslovakia. And
00:26:32.49\00:26:35.32
some of those were the result
of the creative work of box
00:26:35.32\00:26:38.26
office haul. One of
eastern Europe's most talented
00:26:38.26\00:26:41.13
playwrights and authors hobbles
influence accelerated with the
00:26:41.13\00:26:45.27
rise of Mikhail Gorbachev.
As first secretary of the
00:26:45.27\00:26:48.40
Soviet Communist Party. What
Gorbachev had hoped would give
00:26:48.40\00:26:51.97
legitimacy to the communist
system. I actually brought it
00:26:51.97\00:26:55.31
to a crashing halt. What
began as a trickle of student
00:26:55.31\00:26:59.25
protesters became a nationwide
movement to peacefully
00:26:59.25\00:27:02.88
overthrow the one party state.
Underwood's Czechs and Slovaks
00:27:02.88\00:27:06.76
had lived for more than 40.
There's 500,000 people swelled
00:27:06.76\00:27:12.16
the streets of Prague to them
and the lifting of restrictions
00:27:12.16\00:27:15.30
on speech culture, religion.
00:27:15.30\00:27:18.07
[MUSIC]
00:27:18.07\00:27:22.07
>> Shortly after a robot
that will shun, I meant to go
00:27:22.07\00:27:24.84
findings who became my life and
the gentleman to see I hit my
00:27:24.84\00:27:30.25
marriage.
00:27:30.25\00:27:31.88
>> I knew he survive very well.
She leaves in my building 2 for
00:27:31.88\00:27:35.65
us down.
00:27:35.65\00:27:36.89
>> You are at a point when your
business career was taking off,
00:27:36.89\00:27:40.62
your company was fairly new
and growing rapidly. You would
00:27:40.62\00:27:44.79
recently got married after 4
years. Your wife is expecting
00:27:44.79\00:27:50.00
your first child must have been
a moment initially that seemed
00:27:50.00\00:27:53.23
very, very hopeful
to absolutely tools.
00:27:53.23\00:27:56.30
>> Meaning of my
life to have some
00:27:56.30\00:27:59.71
and to hand over one day, my
successful family business to
00:27:59.71\00:28:04.88
him. I will set the 5
that will still put my
00:28:04.88\00:28:08.48
but official and personal life
doing the first building could
00:28:08.48\00:28:11.59
be sent to us. Sexist
foot, finished and policed.
00:28:11.59\00:28:16.42
But you I was much more
00:28:16.42\00:28:18.76
happier because of our for some.
00:28:18.76\00:28:21.40
The name makes of a squad that
is showing no family. My father
00:28:21.40\00:28:25.70
was makes my grandfather and
my get in get in father. It was
00:28:25.70\00:28:29.90
quite this soon. Ain't so.
My father was so happy about
00:28:29.90\00:28:33.38
that early on.
00:28:33.38\00:28:34.88
>> Things looked quite stable
for the little boy. You called
00:28:34.88\00:28:38.11
little Mak's Sixweek City.
00:28:38.11\00:28:40.08
>> We thought we
have healthy boy,
00:28:40.08\00:28:43.69
a healthy baby boy in our
home and after 6 weeks, my wife
00:28:43.69\00:28:48.26
notice he's not. You think
so? Well, as the short so things
00:28:48.26\00:28:52.53
they be visit the hospital
00:28:52.53\00:28:54.73
and even death known, he's sick
and his brain and he has to go
00:28:54.73\00:28:59.17
some surgery makes the at
6 weeks. Yes, 6 weeks old.
00:28:59.17\00:29:05.31
So to have been too well, but
the doctors needed to know what
00:29:05.31\00:29:11.15
was the reason for the
center. So you have to go on the
00:29:11.15\00:29:15.92
monument to call Arizonans.
Yes, no, or is old Wilson
00:29:15.92\00:29:20.59
really because of the forest
because he had a tumor in his
00:29:20.59\00:29:24.66
head and he had no chance
to sit with that for the first
00:29:24.66\00:29:28.53
time in my life,
my and slit my life.
00:29:28.53\00:29:34.44
I would like to change myself
00:29:34.44\00:29:36.74
because she called me
got long to sell something
00:29:36.74\00:29:41.48
and he started to pray.
00:29:41.48\00:29:43.21
>> I hadn't really
been praying people before.
00:29:43.21\00:29:46.61
>> Definitely not me. I started
to pray for you and I didn't
00:29:46.61\00:29:50.85
know how and the the believe
that little monks will be here
00:29:50.85\00:29:57.39
because of God's grace. But
in the end, it didn't happen.
00:29:57.39\00:30:02.00
You die. You will
see a mix. So that also
00:30:02.00\00:30:07.80
I want to worst part of my life.
00:30:07.80\00:30:12.91
>> Could anything good come out
of this tragedy? Would a loving
00:30:12.91\00:30:16.48
God be able to bring something
to redeem his life that could
00:30:16.48\00:30:19.71
have happened in no other way.
00:30:19.71\00:30:21.85
>> I was
00:30:21.85\00:30:23.85
I'm no Ressam who was living
00:30:23.85\00:30:27.36
coding will of God. I knew it.
00:30:27.36\00:30:31.16
I want to let the months to
be raised. But the person that I
00:30:31.16\00:30:35.20
was about a mile Knowles,
00:30:35.20\00:30:37.90
no chance to change it.
00:30:37.90\00:30:39.97
>> Everything was going so well
for a team that I didn't know
00:30:39.97\00:30:43.54
it was going to work out the
moment this happened the Mac.
00:30:43.54\00:30:46.74
So it was really, really
hard to accept a little bit.
00:30:46.74\00:30:49.28
>> One of the first the
00:30:49.28\00:30:52.91
interest to the stun from Bible
as well as help them off the
00:30:52.91\00:30:57.15
debt. But what
does that little Max?
00:30:57.15\00:31:00.86
Because I grew up in a
couple of families. So that is
00:31:00.86\00:31:06.09
the chain about a MARTA
bus. Oh, yes. And to my first,
00:31:06.09\00:31:11.50
my first impression was going
every day through the center
00:31:11.50\00:31:15.47
and talk a little
marks. I've got to but is soon
00:31:15.47\00:31:19.94
information from the Bible.
Thanks to our friends. There is
00:31:19.94\00:31:26.51
some other solution, though,
does not think of the death and
00:31:26.51\00:31:30.45
the it wasn't easy
for me to understand that.
00:31:30.45\00:31:33.99
>> One of them that IBM's x of
ice on go happened to be and a
00:31:33.99\00:31:37.16
dentist and she
asked him to pray for them.
00:31:37.16\00:31:40.20
>> But close enough, my life
Simona she will. Some of the
00:31:40.20\00:31:43.87
event is the time
00:31:43.87\00:31:45.47
she spoke
00:31:45.47\00:31:46.57
with my life. But it often
about a Bible and my life felt
00:31:46.57\00:31:50.51
that her cousin gold hair
00:31:50.51\00:31:53.68
biblical. True. But she knew
that the rules not possible to
00:31:53.68\00:31:58.81
go with me about it. Before
sickness of little mix by then
00:31:58.81\00:32:04.62
things change. And I was
ready to list some voice of God.
00:32:04.62\00:32:09.52
>> In 1998, the Global 7th
Day Adventist Church turned its
00:32:09.52\00:32:13.53
attention to net night
here. And in turn National
00:32:13.53\00:32:16.33
Evangelistic event hosted
by Dwight Nelson, the pastor of
00:32:16.33\00:32:19.70
the Pioneer Memorial Church,
men and women in dozens of
00:32:19.70\00:32:23.30
countries heard the word of God
that brought fresh hope to tens
00:32:23.30\00:32:27.84
of thousands who are struggling
to know what to do with their
00:32:27.84\00:32:31.08
newfound freedom.
00:32:31.08\00:32:32.28
[MUSIC]
00:32:32.28\00:32:34.62
>> During this time, he
also started studying the Bible
00:32:34.62\00:32:39.85
and other inspired writings
to learn more as fast as you
00:32:39.85\00:32:44.93
could. This was a
00:32:44.93\00:32:46.93
a real growth time in your
life, even though it's been a
00:32:46.93\00:32:49.50
time of loss.
00:32:49.50\00:32:50.63
>> Because what would you
mind? It's nice that I deem bus
00:32:50.63\00:32:53.17
Senate in 1994. Out of French
was strictly business. 4 years
00:32:53.17\00:32:58.51
later, we made this personal
friends at MIT. 98 howdy to
00:32:58.51\00:33:03.11
integrate what you are learning.
00:33:03.11\00:33:04.98
>> From the Bible, about the
future, with your own plans for
00:33:04.98\00:33:09.45
the future as a businessman.
00:33:09.45\00:33:10.95
>> When I first met that ID,
we were at one of the Mitt 98
00:33:10.95\00:33:15.29
meetings. I so them what you
need a vga and that I deem and
00:33:15.29\00:33:19.19
his wife showed up with that
live in jackets and groups like
00:33:19.19\00:33:22.66
like this. This and I knew
months possibly to his vice
00:33:22.66\00:33:26.57
president. She eventually
charge every loss in the vile
00:33:26.57\00:33:29.60
and that we share the same
fate is about to be denied the
00:33:29.60\00:33:32.37
aisles ration. He was looking
for something that could guide
00:33:32.37\00:33:35.48
him something that could even
fate to move forward. And I'm
00:33:35.48\00:33:39.65
not sure.
00:33:39.65\00:33:40.98
>> Every day, right? He made
time to come to the meetings.
00:33:40.98\00:33:43.02
So he came to the bus to the
timing. Call for off perfect.
00:33:43.02\00:33:47.06
So I visited with
my wife all 27 m a.
00:33:47.06\00:33:50.69
>> Like all 27 leaders in a row.
00:33:50.69\00:33:53.50
>> It's all from doing Fleming
for him because it's within
00:33:53.50\00:33:56.87
that time I started on this
than bible. Of course, purposes
00:33:56.87\00:34:01.27
this work. I really
makes your fate deeper.
00:34:01.27\00:34:07.08
>> Somehow the Bible truth
about death and resurrection
00:34:07.08\00:34:12.35
was a great
comfort, then wasn't.
00:34:12.35\00:34:14.65
>> It's both for all of
this. Some encouragement for me
00:34:14.65\00:34:17.55
because I learned, OK,
small babies, likely the mikes
00:34:17.55\00:34:22.52
couldn't take any decision for
or against guys, one of like a
00:34:22.52\00:34:26.66
sofa. Can I personally do
something to be with him again
00:34:26.66\00:34:33.64
and so Jesus?
00:34:33.64\00:34:35.40
>> With this possible when
couples go through a loss like
00:34:35.40\00:34:39.47
that, many of them
struggle in their relationship,
00:34:39.47\00:34:43.78
was that also true?
00:34:43.78\00:34:45.31
>> For you and your way?
Not really. Because the both
00:34:45.31\00:34:48.85
had the same desire.
00:34:48.85\00:34:51.22
We live our lives with Jesus
00:34:51.22\00:34:54.62
and the United U.S.. The
decided often that 98 could be
00:34:54.62\00:35:00.33
baptized in the some
of the event is to it.
00:35:00.33\00:35:03.26
We were sure the would
like to be part of this church.
00:35:03.26\00:35:07.90
>> I've seen a video clip
00:35:07.90\00:35:09.84
of an unusual baptism by
immersion. Yeah. Under the
00:35:09.84\00:35:13.58
water. Both of you at once
that isn't done very often.
00:35:13.58\00:35:17.55
>> He spoke with Boston about
the facilities so far about
00:35:17.55\00:35:21.22
this. And he he said just that
us it can be to how we can be
00:35:21.22\00:35:26.69
both the U.S. and to be
like that to understand, too.
00:35:26.69\00:35:31.39
You can have and to have
00:35:31.39\00:35:34.03
your small baby
00:35:34.03\00:35:36.67
and they do. And they fear
00:35:36.67\00:35:39.27
that opened the
pain. You can raise him.
00:35:39.27\00:35:44.44
They're frank
environment to have it,
00:35:44.44\00:35:47.34
which I think it'll be amazing
for any Christians who lost
00:35:47.34\00:35:53.98
their child.
00:35:53.98\00:35:55.05
[MUSIC]
00:35:55.05\00:35:58.65
>> When you are
in that growth time,
00:35:58.65\00:36:01.42
how do the people
around you respond?
00:36:01.42\00:36:04.06
>> People are responded to
befriend play. Some of them.
00:36:04.06\00:36:07.86
They sold. I'm
a little bit crazy
00:36:07.86\00:36:11.40
who became a believer because
some night some some others
00:36:11.40\00:36:16.84
just like that.
00:36:16.84\00:36:18.97
If it's just short, something
short them alt or if it's only
00:36:18.97\00:36:23.51
for the whole life, some people
told me you are booked. Eyes is
00:36:23.51\00:36:27.68
the maybe board as they cut the
leak. So why would you like to
00:36:27.68\00:36:32.15
be? But that's the game.
And the girl, some people spoke
00:36:32.15\00:36:35.92
about slow, not nice things
00:36:35.92\00:36:39.09
because if people don't on this
than some think it's very easy
00:36:39.09\00:36:43.10
to judge the people that.
00:36:43.10\00:36:45.03
>> Shortly after your baptism,
00:36:45.03\00:36:47.17
this terrible loss, this time
of great personal discovery,
00:36:47.17\00:36:52.11
some colleagues
00:36:52.11\00:36:53.94
proved not to be so loyal.
00:36:53.94\00:36:55.54
>> One year after losing Corey
La Mike's City, Michael's this
00:36:55.54\00:36:59.65
goalie made a good team in
together and still my compass.
00:36:59.65\00:37:03.15
Still the company. Yes.
00:37:03.15\00:37:05.12
One year after losing KMOX,
00:37:05.12\00:37:07.59
he didn't have any baby and
I hadn't even even the company
00:37:07.59\00:37:13.13
city people tied to hire some
short the from Russia to kill
00:37:13.13\00:37:17.87
him. He was the second step off
the they veteran sexy to feel
00:37:17.87\00:37:24.51
my company.
00:37:24.51\00:37:26.51
Thanks to the Lord. Jesus gave
me strength to forgive them,
00:37:26.51\00:37:31.48
OK, you don't know if they
didn't the interest in. That
00:37:31.48\00:37:35.58
was also the hopeful to me
personally because I didn't
00:37:35.58\00:37:39.99
feel any hate in my
heart. After 3 months I've got a
00:37:39.99\00:37:44.49
company back. They've got a
little bit more Travis, more
00:37:44.49\00:37:48.16
equity. Yes, I was grateful
to God at the end because the
00:37:48.16\00:37:51.60
company Rose just before
big deals. Thanks to God.
00:37:51.60\00:37:56.54
Thanks to this people. They did
it. I could hire a new team of
00:37:56.54\00:38:00.71
people. I did it with my lord
because I pray it will be able
00:38:00.71\00:38:05.31
to get, you know,
company, the right people
00:38:05.31\00:38:08.85
professionally and more of it.
00:38:08.85\00:38:11.42
>> And even Jesus Rosin in
Ryan's life. I don't think that
00:38:11.42\00:38:14.96
these bees knees with a grown
because everything was brought
00:38:14.96\00:38:17.73
down these horrible experiences.
00:38:17.73\00:38:20.50
>> With the majority of
the shares of stock now in the
00:38:20.50\00:38:23.40
hands of his former friends
who had wrested control of his
00:38:23.40\00:38:27.07
company from him, redeem began
to rebuild his organization
00:38:27.07\00:38:31.14
this time with employees whose
integrity he knew he could rely
00:38:31.14\00:38:36.11
starting with a small group
of trusted colleagues. Redeem
00:38:36.11\00:38:39.68
positioned his company to take
advantage of the boom in real
00:38:39.68\00:38:43.25
estate development that hit
Eastern Europe in the first 5
00:38:43.25\00:38:46.62
years of the 21st century.
00:38:46.62\00:38:48.96
Within a short while, what had
been his minority share of his
00:38:48.96\00:38:52.79
company had become multiples
of what he once controlled as he
00:38:52.79\00:38:56.73
focused on personal
and business integrity.
00:38:56.73\00:39:01.44
Jobe says
00:39:01.44\00:39:02.90
even though he takes my life.
00:39:02.90\00:39:05.67
>> I will trust this.
00:39:05.67\00:39:08.14
That's something you found
that you could begin to say.
00:39:08.14\00:39:11.18
>> I don't don't compare
myself. It's such a good person
00:39:11.18\00:39:15.38
like Joe. They buy
day my trust in got
00:39:15.38\00:39:19.12
we'll see. Improving and
improving. I dedicate it to him
00:39:19.12\00:39:23.16
ever sink,
including my business.
00:39:23.16\00:39:25.96
There was one thing we didn't
that okay to do God's hands
00:39:25.96\00:39:29.33
completely. And it also
00:39:29.33\00:39:32.20
desire to have another baby
00:39:32.20\00:39:34.87
more than 2 years after losing
flu marks the and thus to this
00:39:34.87\00:39:39.37
necessarily prove that, okay,
this 4 of the most important
00:39:39.37\00:39:44.01
life issue complete with 2
hands. So got the better for
00:39:44.01\00:39:47.38
the pair to accept Bill O God,
even though the we don't have
00:39:47.38\00:39:53.66
and the other baby in our
life. But Glenn, the did it
00:39:53.66\00:39:58.83
after 3 months of my life lost.
But I can on the game, it will
00:39:58.83\00:40:04.03
still run over the nicest
experience with the got in my
00:40:04.03\00:40:07.67
life coming.
00:40:07.67\00:40:08.97
>> That sort of full circle.
00:40:08.97\00:40:10.91
And I believe he
carries your name.
00:40:10.91\00:40:12.47
>> Yes, because marks most the
for some. And he spoke with my
00:40:12.47\00:40:19.61
life even before Max was born.
00:40:19.61\00:40:22.88
If we would have won the and
other some, he would be that I
00:40:22.88\00:40:26.99
get to know.
00:40:26.99\00:40:28.32
>> I can imagine every day
when you see the Dean junior,
00:40:28.32\00:40:33.36
some part of you thinks
00:40:33.36\00:40:35.30
of him as gods gift
to the time of real loss.
00:40:35.30\00:40:40.20
>> Yes,
00:40:40.20\00:40:41.20
I remember we came
back from the hospital
00:40:41.20\00:40:44.41
and
00:40:44.41\00:40:45.74
played him to the baby. Kate
00:40:45.74\00:40:49.18
kneel down
00:40:49.18\00:40:50.65
and the ticket that won
him both to God's hands.
00:40:50.65\00:40:54.25
And that will see one of the
day at this moment in my life.
00:40:54.25\00:40:57.79
[MUSIC]
00:40:57.79\00:41:00.62
>> We as later I had
serious car accident.
00:41:00.62\00:41:04.29
[MUSIC]
00:41:04.29\00:41:06.36
>> We've got Makar was slit
saved my life. I was the only
00:41:06.36\00:41:10.30
person who was involved in the
accident. I will say it is Lee
00:41:10.30\00:41:13.44
in Jordan. My head I'm I've
got safe my life and he complete
00:41:13.44\00:41:19.11
played the opening on the
lake to. I've got to know that
00:41:19.11\00:41:22.44
notice some of the nation
should get to my wife and some
00:41:22.44\00:41:25.38
of them. And so it will set
up an for situation. With 1007,
00:41:25.38\00:41:29.82
the divorced
00:41:29.82\00:41:30.82
[MUSIC]
00:41:30.82\00:41:34.99
got a good use
to anybody who owns
00:41:34.99\00:41:40.16
forgiveness. I need it.
00:41:40.16\00:41:43.26
A local forgiveness to compete
there. Trump, the Steelers,
00:41:43.26\00:41:47.20
9 bathrooms, every
single person or anything
00:41:47.20\00:41:51.54
to be in the Nets kingdom.
He should do the same shortly
00:41:51.54\00:41:55.68
after the boyfriend of my life.
00:41:55.68\00:41:58.81
>> Going back to me and ask
for forgiveness. So we met. I
00:41:58.81\00:42:03.02
talked to him where I
am. If God forgave me for the
00:42:03.02\00:42:06.96
field, it was one of the
nicest expensive, the guy that
00:42:06.96\00:42:11.03
everybody does. Most of
them really they matter and the
00:42:11.03\00:42:14.46
great experiences well to be
as if people do, when do we stay
00:42:14.46\00:42:19.40
calm
00:42:19.40\00:42:20.50
that can income I this throwing
person alive? I couldn't
00:42:20.50\00:42:25.47
imagine I would be accept
that my only son that time and I
00:42:25.47\00:42:29.18
think, you know,
would be raised by him.
00:42:29.18\00:42:32.01
>> We spoke to off the
sometime. I'm the school mice
00:42:32.01\00:42:36.22
mice.
00:42:36.22\00:42:37.35
I like him. So it means the
economy is such a big first we
00:42:37.35\00:42:41.72
go. And and today I I'm
really grateful to God he corpse
00:42:41.72\00:42:48.26
locally to start.
00:42:48.26\00:42:49.73
>> And I do believe the video,
different lifestyle and how
00:42:49.73\00:42:52.73
he's leaving now used to
box the laws and the moment he
00:42:52.73\00:42:56.30
changed his lifestyle led him
back to tease business world in
00:42:56.30\00:43:00.81
a positive way.
00:43:00.81\00:43:03.48
>> A man that's an income
double start to the document.
00:43:03.48\00:43:07.58
Harry redeemed. The
cinematography is amazing and I
00:43:07.58\00:43:12.72
love the video. I love the way
you put that together. But to
00:43:12.72\00:43:16.32
me, the heart of this is the
story. Yes, that is the heart
00:43:16.32\00:43:20.73
in the change in to think
of what really impacted me was
00:43:20.73\00:43:25.10
that intimate portion part
way through where reading talked
00:43:25.10\00:43:29.07
about the death of little mass.
Yeah. And the pain that he went
00:43:29.07\00:43:33.07
through. But yet in the midst
of that difficulty, how God
00:43:33.07\00:43:36.85
brought transformation
and healing, that's powerful.
00:43:36.85\00:43:40.85
>> When I first heard the
outlines of that stirring a
00:43:40.85\00:43:44.19
year previous to
our crew going there,
00:43:44.19\00:43:46.69
I was caught by the
vulnerability that the Dean
00:43:46.69\00:43:49.46
demonstrated many
individuals who succeeded in the
00:43:49.46\00:43:52.99
professional world find ways
of sort of smoothing over the
00:43:52.99\00:43:56.67
awkward and painful parts of
their past. He's chosen not to
00:43:56.67\00:44:00.64
his chosen to
remember it and to tell it
00:44:00.64\00:44:03.67
and knowing that the power of
the gospel in them in the mind
00:44:03.67\00:44:08.21
of those who hear his
story will remind them of the
00:44:08.21\00:44:11.45
possibilities of change
and transformation in their own
00:44:11.45\00:44:14.12
lives.
00:44:14.12\00:44:15.28
I found it deeply emotional
for me to sit there and hear him
00:44:15.28\00:44:21.52
tell the story in full a
year after his goal. Instead,
00:44:21.52\00:44:24.96
I didn't hold many of
the details until the second
00:44:24.96\00:44:28.30
opportunity with the crew.
00:44:28.30\00:44:30.37
And as he talked,
00:44:30.37\00:44:32.03
I began to get the sense that
this was going to be the part
00:44:32.03\00:44:35.84
that was most memorable of
the of the first portion of this
00:44:35.84\00:44:40.91
film because
00:44:40.91\00:44:42.48
so many people have a story
like this, difficulty pain,
00:44:42.48\00:44:48.08
challenge Voss and get God uses
those to achieve a moment of of
00:44:48.08\00:44:54.86
of joy of transformation in
their life. And they can begin
00:44:54.86\00:44:58.79
to understand that all things
to work together for good for
00:44:58.79\00:45:03.60
those who love God, we don't
see that in one week or one
00:45:03.60\00:45:06.94
month or even sometimes one
year. Sure. But the long arc of
00:45:06.94\00:45:10.57
what God is doing becomes
visible in lives and redeem
00:45:10.57\00:45:14.44
very
00:45:14.44\00:45:15.51
boldly puts that story
have front. That's what made it
00:45:15.51\00:45:19.15
compelling. What
makes a compelling video?
00:45:19.15\00:45:21.88
>> Yeah, absolutely. You
know his conversion experience.
00:45:21.88\00:45:24.35
Yeah, powerful. You know, he's
he's obviously a very wealthy
00:45:24.35\00:45:27.96
man, right? Very,
very successful, know, very
00:45:27.96\00:45:31.43
successful. But yet he
was still missing something.
00:45:31.43\00:45:34.73
And it's interesting because
I like how you guys I got the
00:45:34.73\00:45:37.37
story from like co-workers are
business people or some that do
00:45:37.37\00:45:41.04
the work for him. And they're
talking about the change that
00:45:41.04\00:45:43.64
they noticed that took place
we need except to Christ and not
00:45:43.64\00:45:47.41
all of those individuals
are persons of faith.
00:45:47.41\00:45:50.05
>> And they were in her
interview there. Some of them
00:45:50.05\00:45:51.91
are our colleagues who have
never made a faith commitment
00:45:51.91\00:45:54.42
or certainly not an
administrate commitment.
00:45:54.42\00:45:56.75
And yet they're telling us
about the changes they've seen
00:45:56.75\00:45:59.59
in his life because they've
known him for 30 years, just
00:45:59.59\00:46:02.29
watched him go through this
process of both a touring in
00:46:02.29\00:46:07.20
his own faith and being
very public about inviting other
00:46:07.20\00:46:10.83
people to share.
00:46:10.83\00:46:12.77
>> Good to me. When I was
watching it, there's 2 pivotal
00:46:12.77\00:46:15.74
moments. Now, of course, he
will put it together you with
00:46:15.74\00:46:18.11
off and probably say
there's different ones. But one,
00:46:18.11\00:46:20.34
of course, is the death
of little Max. That's a given
00:46:20.34\00:46:22.88
moment. And then him studying
the Bible except in Christ,
00:46:22.88\00:46:26.82
in the midst of grief and
pain, seen that transformation.
00:46:26.82\00:46:30.39
But the other pivotal moment
he's with his ex-wife and him.
00:46:30.39\00:46:34.99
Forgive me. That's so powerful.
A point because so many times,
00:46:34.99\00:46:41.46
OK, we accept Christ and
things are going well and
00:46:41.46\00:46:44.70
then another crisis occurs
and then to actually for kieff
00:46:44.70\00:46:48.67
someone that's huge.
00:46:48.67\00:46:50.71
>> He said that that, you know,
the whole crew when we heard
00:46:50.71\00:46:54.34
the story was most touched by
it. You know, this man again in
00:46:54.34\00:46:59.41
that he's so wealthy and would
not be in school board or a
00:46:59.41\00:47:02.22
bull in telling the stories.
But we've got to see his heart
00:47:02.22\00:47:05.82
and how got transformed him
from a person that will go to
00:47:05.82\00:47:09.86
parties. And, you know,
and then, you know, the world,
00:47:09.86\00:47:12.69
these kinds of things to up
the person that I can understand
00:47:12.69\00:47:15.83
the grace of God, that to
the extent that he can forgive,
00:47:15.83\00:47:19.20
yes, something that, you
know, many concealed this chest
00:47:19.20\00:47:21.84
height recent. How can you
for keep something like these?
00:47:21.84\00:47:24.87
And he, you know, heap
showed us how. And that's that's
00:47:24.87\00:47:28.58
amazing. Of course, he creates
a door. But we, you know,
00:47:28.58\00:47:32.21
the that the calendar of
got nice life was just amazing.
00:47:32.21\00:47:36.85
How got moved him from, you
know, these place of not even
00:47:36.85\00:47:41.09
knowing Christ.
00:47:41.09\00:47:42.62
Do you know the extension of
that scrase into someone else's
00:47:42.62\00:47:46.43
life?
00:47:46.43\00:47:47.50
>> The remarkable experience
that we had hearing him talk
00:47:47.50\00:47:51.27
about how his ex-wife
and her new husband are both
00:47:51.27\00:47:58.04
re baptized and are back in
the Adventist faith again after
00:47:58.04\00:48:03.48
what many people would consider
an irreconcilable rupture.
00:48:03.48\00:48:07.52
Now they all relate as friends.
They see each other on social
00:48:07.52\00:48:13.05
things. Obviously,
the Sharon raising a son,
00:48:13.05\00:48:16.06
the sad that we were in
the area that I was attending a
00:48:16.06\00:48:20.90
outdoor evangelistic
series that redeem preaching
00:48:20.90\00:48:24.40
his ex-wife is they're singing
in the front row. I'm thinking
00:48:24.40\00:48:28.27
board. How do you do this?
How do you how do you mend a
00:48:28.27\00:48:31.37
broken people this well, how
do you go? That's how do you did
00:48:31.37\00:48:34.44
and how do you connect people
who thought they would never
00:48:34.44\00:48:38.55
speak with these individuals
again and bring them back where
00:48:38.55\00:48:41.72
they can say in the family of
God, we're still engaged in our
00:48:41.72\00:48:46.65
commitments to care for each
other, even though our personal
00:48:46.65\00:48:49.59
lives are going to parking.
00:48:49.59\00:48:51.49
>> You know, how do you
go ahead? You're going to say
00:48:51.49\00:48:53.03
something. Oh, no, just the you
know, something that happened
00:48:53.03\00:48:55.16
behind the scenes. If you are
talking till about that moment
00:48:55.16\00:48:58.23
when when that intimate
conversation happened right
00:48:58.23\00:49:01.20
after that. But being himself
00:49:01.20\00:49:03.94
grabs, you know, put in a
prawn and serves a meal. Yeah,
00:49:03.94\00:49:08.54
for the whole crew, we have
made the stage for you and you
00:49:08.54\00:49:12.05
know it. It's it's a typical
chick. We have made that up.
00:49:12.05\00:49:15.62
And we know that area. And so,
you know, just just so people
00:49:15.62\00:49:18.42
can can see how a person
this wealthy can be so close and
00:49:18.42\00:49:23.19
have, you know, its feet on that
00:49:23.19\00:49:26.23
he actually serve the
whole team. And one just to
00:49:26.23\00:49:30.77
experience that everybody,
you know, I will really paid
00:49:30.77\00:49:34.47
attention to the ice of those
parts of the younger, you know,
00:49:34.47\00:49:37.91
portion of the team, the the
test could not believe in even
00:49:37.91\00:49:41.58
then
00:49:41.58\00:49:42.71
with these very simple things.
So he'd be ready, managed to
00:49:42.71\00:49:47.68
minister to them and say,
you know, so, you know, we will
00:49:47.68\00:49:50.32
come in have people that serve
you. And I know that the least,
00:49:50.32\00:49:53.76
you know, you know, I want
you to build comfortable and
00:49:53.76\00:49:56.22
welcoming might my house.
00:49:56.22\00:49:58.29
>> I was struck for the first
time I met him that he has not
00:49:58.29\00:50:02.10
used his great commercial
success to distance himself
00:50:02.10\00:50:05.57
from other people. He's
actually used it as a way to
00:50:05.57\00:50:08.44
move in and say
my life was broken.
00:50:08.44\00:50:12.01
God changed me. God can do
things for you that you haven't
00:50:12.01\00:50:16.44
even imagined. When you when
you hear that from someone who
00:50:16.44\00:50:20.22
has gone from, as you said,
sweeping the streets, still
00:50:20.22\00:50:22.75
owning them, you realize
the transforming power of God.
00:50:22.75\00:50:26.82
Is that part of the
gospel? We as ad business has
00:50:26.82\00:50:30.06
historically underlined.
Yes, God is saving us through
00:50:30.06\00:50:34.23
the grace of Jesus Christ.
And we see celebrate that.
00:50:34.23\00:50:37.20
We tell you the world about
that. And we also say that that
00:50:37.20\00:50:41.14
Greece transforms us over time
more and the likeness of Jesus
00:50:41.14\00:50:45.57
so that we can forgive people
who've heard us deeply. We can
00:50:45.57\00:50:51.01
build successful reconciled
relationships with people who
00:50:51.01\00:50:54.88
have been treated as well.
That illustrates the power of
00:50:54.88\00:50:58.29
the gospel that the apostle
Paul writes about all the time.
00:50:58.29\00:51:01.32
It's not just the fact of
salvation. It's the experience
00:51:01.32\00:51:05.13
of living alongside people
got invites us to think of his
00:51:05.13\00:51:08.66
brothers and sisters. And and
00:51:08.66\00:51:11.10
>> at the beginning of
the documentary is really good
00:51:11.10\00:51:14.67
year. It talks about
00:51:14.67\00:51:17.11
Matthew and about how
it's easier for a camel to go
00:51:17.11\00:51:21.28
through the eye of a
needle Richmond to enter heaven,
00:51:21.28\00:51:23.95
right? You talk about that the
very beginning. So just comment
00:51:23.95\00:51:26.88
on that because I know that
he's a very humble man. Yeah,
00:51:26.88\00:51:29.92
you get the same time. He's
very successful. So how do you
00:51:29.92\00:51:34.19
then portray who he is without?
You know, I know he doesn't
00:51:34.19\00:51:37.63
want to be like, oh, look
what I've done, getting all the
00:51:37.63\00:51:40.33
stuff that's very that's
that can be challenging, right?
00:51:40.33\00:51:44.23
But many people tend to put.
00:51:44.23\00:51:47.17
>> Those who have commercial
success or welfare is in a
00:51:47.17\00:51:50.57
category that assumes these
can't the people of deep faith.
00:51:50.57\00:51:55.01
It's a false assumption,
but nonetheless, it's common.
00:51:55.01\00:51:58.98
And so we we knew that
that question was going to be in
00:51:58.98\00:52:02.18
line to viewers when you walk
through the gates of his home
00:52:02.18\00:52:06.86
in this small village and
you see the 2 got these parts in
00:52:06.86\00:52:12.46
his garage and the Bentley and
the receive these bins. And you
00:52:12.46\00:52:16.20
realize that he has many of the
symbols of wealth and success
00:52:16.20\00:52:21.24
and achievement.
00:52:21.24\00:52:22.60
It can be tempting to say,
well, then he must somehow be
00:52:22.60\00:52:26.34
kind of hiding his face, just
the opposite. In fact, the more
00:52:26.34\00:52:30.41
time you spend with them and
the more you realize that these
00:52:30.41\00:52:35.15
are simply as he says, the
blessings of God in my life,
00:52:35.15\00:52:38.69
they aren't mine. I don't own
them, got his put these in my
00:52:38.69\00:52:42.49
hands so that I can bless
and help other people. And, you
00:52:42.49\00:52:45.79
know, I was surprised as I
we listened to talked with that
00:52:45.79\00:52:50.97
people who've known him
for years and the people in the
00:52:50.97\00:52:53.30
community who where he has built
00:52:53.30\00:52:56.27
town buildings and playgrounds
for the children in this tiny
00:52:56.27\00:53:00.14
little village.
00:53:00.14\00:53:01.41
They all think of him
as someone who's gospel
00:53:01.41\00:53:05.61
transformed life is changing
their community. Au that to me
00:53:05.61\00:53:10.32
is our full is the best uses of
the wealth to puts in people's
00:53:10.32\00:53:13.99
hands a man.
00:53:13.99\00:53:15.29
>> And by now the viewers have
seen and we have all seen the
00:53:15.29\00:53:18.33
part of of he said the
the secret for him that daily
00:53:18.33\00:53:24.30
time with Christ in the whole
family holding hands, Portia
00:53:24.30\00:53:27.87
singing hymns, reading
scripture and having up a life
00:53:27.87\00:53:31.97
of prayer each day so that,
you know, he made the point.
00:53:31.97\00:53:37.05
That's the most
important commitment they have.
00:53:37.05\00:53:40.02
>> On a daily basis. Thank
you for bringing that up because
00:53:40.02\00:53:43.05
you mentioned it takes
about 12 months to get in the
00:53:43.05\00:53:45.79
appointment with him. But
he's made this time every day.
00:53:45.79\00:53:49.62
Every day is now, which is that
every day he's a man who the of
00:53:49.62\00:53:53.70
>> of significant disciplines
in the way he orders his life.
00:53:53.70\00:53:56.80
But the one that is primary
to him is the commitment to that
00:53:56.80\00:54:00.07
family, those children to his
wife. And you watch that in the
00:54:00.07\00:54:03.77
easiness with which they all
move together and you see the
00:54:03.77\00:54:07.18
naturalness of the way
faith lives in that household.
00:54:07.18\00:54:11.11
It isn't decorative. It's
not put on because the cameras
00:54:11.11\00:54:14.38
running its in transit to
the way this family lives. And
00:54:14.38\00:54:17.85
that's part of the fun. But we
all look for authentic people.
00:54:17.85\00:54:21.79
Yeah. And as we mentioned,
sometimes we doubt that those
00:54:21.79\00:54:24.76
with significant wealth or high
positions are really authentic.
00:54:24.76\00:54:30.00
Write the story of redeem is
the story of authenticity all
00:54:30.00\00:54:33.70
the way through. And in
case you have you, Lucia INS,
00:54:33.70\00:54:36.40
we'll bring you right back to
reality. What like the title of
00:54:36.40\00:54:39.97
the documentary redeem? Because
I think about redeemed, right?
00:54:39.97\00:54:42.91
He was reading the book so to
speak. Yeah, it and he he tells
00:54:42.91\00:54:47.42
his story as we try
to illustrate here in the
00:54:47.42\00:54:50.12
documentary
00:54:50.12\00:54:51.29
from the point of View honoring
the God who did not his own
00:54:51.29\00:54:56.12
commercial genius or his own
in wise investing or the good
00:54:56.12\00:55:00.46
partnerships he formed.
Actually, he has a multi volume
00:55:00.46\00:55:04.10
autobiography that I've worked
through most of and thus that
00:55:04.10\00:55:08.30
the commercial setbacks he's
experienced are have been at
00:55:08.30\00:55:11.47
times nearly as painful as
the personal ones. It's not been
00:55:11.47\00:55:15.01
some climbing lying the whole
time. And yet God has put more
00:55:15.01\00:55:19.78
success in his hands as
he's committed himself to giving
00:55:19.78\00:55:23.28
back to his his immediate
community and to the business
00:55:23.28\00:55:27.79
park that he's developed in the
center of Prague, which is the
00:55:27.79\00:55:31.56
most remarkable center of
influence we use that term
00:55:31.56\00:55:35.63
often these days I have
ever seen it is on a scale.
00:55:35.63\00:55:40.04
We know the rest of us could
barely dream, but now we're
00:55:40.04\00:55:43.37
getting ready to
go the second hour.
00:55:43.37\00:55:44.71
>> We are indeed. Talk to us
just a moment about the center
00:55:44.71\00:55:47.38
of influence. You know, we're
going to see that in the next
00:55:47.38\00:55:50.18
hour. But let's tease to
that just a moment. What is the
00:55:50.18\00:55:53.31
center of influence that
he's developing and building?
00:55:53.31\00:55:56.42
>> Whoever wants to beginning
on something like right now,
00:55:56.42\00:55:59.72
I guess it would be. 25
years ago, he began investing in
00:55:59.72\00:56:03.76
building a business park
in what was a very sort of run
00:56:03.76\00:56:08.30
down dilapidated portion of the
city. He recognized that this
00:56:08.30\00:56:12.80
was a strategically a wise spot
that commercial traffic will
00:56:12.80\00:56:16.87
begin moving this way. And he
began building a portions of a
00:56:16.87\00:56:21.28
business park that
today employees in the various
00:56:21.28\00:56:25.45
businesses, 14,000 people in
its final phase. It will employ
00:56:25.45\00:56:30.19
20,000 people who work
in the buildings there.
00:56:30.19\00:56:34.06
It's a massive complex
of buildings and many of the
00:56:34.06\00:56:38.49
largest corporations in Europe
and the world rent spaces in
00:56:38.49\00:56:43.10
his buildings because for
the these are namesake play
00:56:43.10\00:56:47.94
companies. Microsoft and I
think Google is there. If I'm
00:56:47.94\00:56:52.94
not mistaken, rose and IBM,
IBM, IBM was there in the and
00:56:52.94\00:56:56.18
major banking institutions,
insurance companies they want
00:56:56.18\00:56:59.71
to be in this place because it
is a kind of environment where
00:56:59.71\00:57:04.55
people find homeless, the
confined tranquility, that
00:57:04.55\00:57:07.79
confined improvements for
life all because one man has a
00:57:07.79\00:57:10.93
vision of making life different.
00:57:10.93\00:57:12.79
>> It's amazing. We have a full
second hour coming up. I was
00:57:12.79\00:57:16.30
just thinking as you're talking
about him of Luke for you know,
00:57:16.30\00:57:19.33
when Jesus stood up in Nazareth
with that Messianic mission,
00:57:19.33\00:57:22.67
that is what we're doing
now. He is lifting up the
00:57:22.67\00:57:25.51
downtrodden. He is living
out the gospel. He's helping to
00:57:25.51\00:57:29.84
break those bands and to set
the oppressed free, not through
00:57:29.84\00:57:32.88
him, but the Lord Jesus working
in and through him. This is a
00:57:32.88\00:57:37.29
man whose life has been
transformed by the Gospel.
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Stay with us. We have the 2nd
half coming up just after that.
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