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¤ ¤ >> Hello,
friends. My name is
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Ryan Day and you're watching 3 A
B and Thursday night live and we
want to welcome you.
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That's right. This program is
live. We're coming to you live
from Thomson Illinois, West
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Frankfort, Illinois. We've got
to say that because we're 3
bands literally in the middle
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of a cornfield. As you guys
know. And now in the middle of
nowhere between the small
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towns of West Frankfort and
Thomson Illinois. But I promise
you, the spirit of God
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is in this place. We're excited
about what we're going to be
discussed tonight. We've
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got salt outreach in the Yeah.
So we've got we've got Eric.
We've got will. And we've got
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Jennifer here and we're going to
be introducing Bill in just a
few moments and we're going
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to be talking about the amazing
things that God is doing through
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saw outreach ministries. and I
just I love this minister,
brother. I'm excited about what
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God is doing through you guys.
And we're going to talk in depth
about this tonight. We've got
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2 hours with these brothers. And
so I just want you guys to know
get your family's around.
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Gather the crew gathered, the
enemy's your friends,
co-workers, anybody that gets
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around, you're not going to miss
this because tonight I'm just
going to tell you tonight
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we're going to be looking into
what it truly means to be a
servant of the Lord. What it
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truly means to serve your
neighbor and to fulfill the
gospel commission that God has
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commissioned each and every one
of us to do. And if you want to
know what that really
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looks like from a biblical
perspective and a truly see it
on display will be talking
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about that tonight. So that
being said, we are said to be
going to be so blessed right
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now with some incredible music.
This being brought to us by my
good friends, Vanessa
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of Donna and been Jenkins and of
course, my good friend Tim
Pardon. It's going to be at
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the piano as well. And there in
the house and we're excited that
they're going to be
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bringing us one of my favorite
songs, your grace still amazes
me. So let's go to that right
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now.
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>> and >> eyes >> I know
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>> Praise the Lord. Praise the
Lord. My brother Danny Shelton
would say that's a 2 and are
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right I love the music. Thank
you, Vanessa and bin. A good
front him for bringing us that
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beautiful, beautiful song. Your
gray still amazes me. Where
would we be without the
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grace of God and man and
certainly not sitting here
tonight right but to praise
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the Lord that we want to thank
you at home again for joining
us. If you're just now tuning
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in, you're watching 3 A B in
Thursday night live. And we have
solved outreach in the
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building with us tonight were so
excited about having these
brothers joining us because
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we're going to be talking about
what God is doing through their
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ministry. And you know what I
know for a fact. Let me tell you
something. And we have a lot
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of interviewers here and
interviewees and all we have a
lot of interviews will just
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say that an and we have a lot of
incredible ministries and we're
so thankful to have all
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of our guests that come through
here to 3ABN. But just have same
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in salt hold a special place in
my heart because I have of
watched you guys and see what
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you guys have done over the
years. And I tonight, we're just
going to scratch the surface
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really as to what God is doing
through them and what he has
done through this incredible
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ministry. But let me formally
introduce we have Eric saying
that Want to make And you are
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the president and CEO of Salt
out regions, right? I'm going to
come back to you in just a
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moment introduce to the 2 guys
going come back in and let you
guys, you know, tell us little
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bit about yourself where you're
from and we're going to get into
the details of salt.
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>> But next to you, we have will
month alittle month. Alittle,
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too. That's their right to all
The Lord, it's a blessing to
have you here. My brother and
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we've got Jeffrey Saint Hilaire.
Yes, you're with us as well. And
it's a it's a blessing to have
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you, my brother. And so what I'd
like to do with this moment our
guests may not know you
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guys and Eric, you've been here.
Kuz is this is your tooth for
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first time ever here. But this
is what have you You have been
here before. Really? I'm I'm I'm
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a little yeah, Rick, I know
you've been here several times.
So tell us a little bit about
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where you're from, who you are
for the guests who may not have
ever seen before. Yeah, yeah.
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you know, was born Raised You
know, we ended allows. >> Held
at gunpoint. One time
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walking home from school. So my
family was like, you know, we've
got to get a Chicago.
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was just in. Chicago owns the
craziest thing. saw this like
banner I had like year to
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date. How many murders there
have It's it's getting it's
getting worse and worse. but
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but yes, you know, my family's
like let's move to Florida. You
know, I haven't had an
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uncle here and there in Florida
and then I spent the rest of my
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my life there 15 and became a
Christian. When I >> 2022. I
opened up a 5, 1, day is going
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through a down time. My So I had
bought me a Bible for Christmas
prior and about a month or 2
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layers like January of 2010, I I
was flipping through and the
Bible had uses words and read
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right? I had the most right. I
saw was at the sermon on the you
go. I started to read the
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sermon on the Mount and it
starts to give me a sense of
peace, a purpose it that that
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feeling of emptiness that I felt
just just was melting and then
from there, I just I
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couldn't put the Bible down and
my mom thought it was going
crazy for a second. You
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know, I wouldn't or drink. I was
just in my bed reading and and
then, you know. I called
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up 3 groups of friends that were
Christian an to add to the
group's happened in 7th
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avenues Christians another group
of my close friends were, you
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know, on another denomination.
And so just learning from the
different schools of thought the
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avenues truth just just click. 2
just made sense. Took the whole
Bible into context. A look at
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the Hebrew in creek and on. And
I'm like, you know, I knew from
church so cool. The
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church I walked into the church.
And so the first person I saw, I
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said, I want to be baptized.
walking past a >> And he's like
what happening here. And and I
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remember, you know, I just
thought like I was reading the
book of acts and this happens
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all the time. You know that as
we have a normal thing for But
yeah, anyway, he called the
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pastor a star Bible studies with
him month later, this is now in
May of 20 tunnels. Bow
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ties. >> Yeah. Praise the
Lord praises or rather. That's
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that's a powerful, powerful,
powerful testimony. We're going
to back just a moment
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and talk about >> salt in
general. But I want to get onto
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my brother will here will tell
us who you are, where you're
from a little bit about
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yourself. And mom with But the
one that will float >> All
right. Puerto Rican families
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with Puerto and >> was was one
of 4 a lot of the Florida. But
we moved to Massachusetts when I
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was like one. Well, and we moved
to City Colin, a very bad
growing up. There was a lot of
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like gang no or very
drug-infested game, right?
Right. my my brothers were just
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And you know, something happened
drastically to one of my
brothers likely still life.
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Yeah, it was the wake up for my
mother to be like, hey, we need
to with 4. Very similar
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to wow. I so that we need to. We
need to, you know, move. And so,
you know, we took a
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vacation to Florida. All right.
That's right. You know, and so
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while we were in Disney, they
were looking for a home, right?
And so when we, >> you know,
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move back. Are we go back to
Massachusetts to like they were
moving as we move down to
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Florida at the time going >> My
my grandfather was a pastor of
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church in Puerto Rico. But my
father comic did his own thing.
Okay. And he brought back. You
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know, that moment to the church,
you know, the lord one of my
uncles and one day he was
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like, hey. This is an advantage
home. Now, you know, haha but
phrase, he's got got
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And although the cautionary. >>
The caution, you know the is
just make sure you're
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raising your household in Christ
and not just in church. That's
him, brother. Yes, you
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know, love as I what happened. I
was raised in church but not in
Christ. a lot of it was
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kind of like. You know, a
checklist going through the
motions going through
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lifestyle, the rules. But you
knew the rules. But you didn't
know the ruler with play. And
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so I eventually says not knowing
the ruler just knowing the
rules. I like the rules.
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so I kind of just ventured out
into mound and star living, you
know, just just while now
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is the other right I was like,
is they just living that life,
right? You know, the night
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life doing what I wanted and
eventually akin to a point where
it was like man, like,
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is this life is this all that
has to offer? Because it does?
It kind of s****. Kind of see
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pass, OK, are you here? Would
doing these things here? What's
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the purpose of the right, right,
And just everything I did just
left me empty until one day. I
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was at work one of my brothers
have 4 brothers and working
with. One of them and he just
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acts like do you? You want to
what having? was like, you with
the sun beating my eyes. I look
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at him and I was like, that's a
dumb question, of But then
again, you I that moment I
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didn't feel like. Number one, if
haven't existed right? Would I
even be there? Right?
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Because I know I'm living, you
know, but that one question
really sparks just the Word of
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God. You know, I don't know
where you begin to remember
stories about island this
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time. And, you know, to Sampson,
you know, it was, you know, he's
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pretty games, you these things
and, you know, just like it,
then I start to feel like a
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hunger. All right. For like
knowing the word of God. So the
Holy Spirit was working on your
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own either. That seed was
planted another holy spirit
moving said, okay, this is the
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opportunity deaf. And that's
that's that's the mystery of the
work of the spirit of God you is
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that, you know, we're in one
place in our life. And and it
always working on us. But then
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>> just the slightest little
change, something happened. And
then it's like this is
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moment. And it's it's it's a
mystery how the Holy Spirit
works sometimes. But
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definitely when you got your
just because my mother had given
me a Bible. That tossed
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aside, you know, a couple years
back and I went right back to
it. I opened it. She
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actually wrote in it. I thought
about to this is rough
conditions used but said the
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symbol of SUV when was just
like. And this is like I know in
time. You'll come back.
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when you do, >> You have this
brother and and has it's been a
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journey, says them. And after
that, literally one day I want
to bow ties and they're like,
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but pray column. I've gotten
praise God God bow was able to
go. Then venture off. But Iran
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Thomas? Eric, we talk about as
around the same time that April
days you guys know each
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other that I know not that Time
and then maybe like by the end
of that year or the
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following year. And they're
going to oak with the miss to
fuel a Jeep Rase And this has
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been a journey since So that's
awesome. And that's a miracle
story, brother. I mean,
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because a lot of people share
that similar story, but they
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don't. >> They don't have that
happy ending. You know, they
stay trapped in the in that
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prison. Yeah, you know. And and
wow, man, praise the Lord.
Jeffrey Moment. Yeah. Yeah. All
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right. So it's a little bit
about yourself where you it will
take a little differently.
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Both of their did they learn it?
So my middle name is actually
job for you. And I go
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by that for the most part, first
Girard. Okay. So I've I had that
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kind of Jacob experience OK
through the years you're on a
not a certain had this kind of
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wrestling with God and the Times
going get a name now. But just
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to take it back to the I was
born in Brooklyn, New York. Kind
of raise. They're a little bit.
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my family's from Trinidad and
Tobago and like me, shot out to
our friends in Trinidad and
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Tobago. We've got we've we've
got some some some good people.
They're oh, actually a
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man out there. Ministry of 3ABN.
>> very strong treated at a
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and is already mean interruption
Like many of. >> A few fun. I
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like the Caribbean island. Stuff
like Brooklyn is like a I guess
a hub, So we were there at some
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aunts, uncles, cousins, whatever
kind of grew up Brooklyn
Brooklyn's Brooklyn
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>> That what I look back, I I I
look back on >> And I saw a lot
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during those few years. Strum.
But my mom had some health
ailments. So we ended up moving
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to Florida. Where does this
place for you? in the Florida
and on South Florida? All so
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kind of grew up there. And, you
know, through the years grew
very nominally, you know,
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nominal Venice. Sure, I'm
Christian. You know, I'm like
you're saying earlier about
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knowing the rules, not You have
to keep the Sabbath, but you
didn't know the Lord of the
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7th. You I got you. Wasn't
wasn't a hard work type of
thing. down. All that kind of
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leads into. Me, I guess going
off, course, a little bit not
that I was ever on You're not,
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know, but we end up moving into
this place called Palm Bay
Florida, which is like a
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small. A small area. I'm not a
city like South Florida. Answer.
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So when you're in smaller
cities, there's not a lot to do,
So my sister and I were just
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kind of on ourselves doing
things that we like never did in
the city, which is weird because
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like the city has more, I guess,
vices, if you will, by closer to
you, right? I don't get it like
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it was Smaller plays are doing
all this stuff like Church
people. yes, so that just
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follows me, you know, partying
all that type of into so much so
that and joining like a
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fraternity while I was an OK
college. Yeah. All right. Ended
up almost losing my
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life. pledging hazing
Do that. Haha. >> Yeah.
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>> You know, you just you just
so captured by the enemy and all
of his good any streets
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that you don't really,
spiritual, you know, you're you
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to the holy Spirit calling, you
know, yeah, you don't consider
the things that you I guess
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you've grown up and you know,
thank God for those church
mothers. you know, my parents to
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family, all those people that
have just, you know, spraying
full helps you connect Praying
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for kids through a threat of
prayer. You know, haha. So yeah.
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Even through that experience
alone, almost lose my while in
at a public you know, I still
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decided to comma go back into
the devil's playground. And the
crazy thing is that.
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>> Like how God, I think kind of
reach to was really interesting
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because so on public campuses,
you know, there are there are
groups that you'll find, you
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where you might find people.
They're like, you so at least at
some of the schools we have like
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a Foreign Minister, Kristian
polishing, right? whatever we
call it 7. Same thing.
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>> Basically advantage people in
his public and the front, you
so. You know, even though
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we would meet together and still
do our thing that I might go out
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on Saturday night to the party,
whatever, But on Friday night I
was there. You know, action so
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that the crazy kind of one leg
and in the involved in the year,
you know, leg in the in the
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world, right time Friday was
like the norm. Right so I had
gotten into some things on
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campus. So I got issue. I lost
like everything. One moment a
man lost like my housing price.
00:21:56.54\00:22:04.59
>> Everything you know, is that
all these activities involving
00:22:04.59\00:22:08.09
all these organizations and I
just had to get out of those.
So. I ended up living on some
00:22:08.09\00:22:13.50
staying in my car for a little
bit thin state and some buddies.
00:22:13.50\00:22:16.06
They're someone's couch. You
know, happening some frat
brothers in the crazy things
00:22:16.06\00:22:20.87
that like, hey, man, let's get
away party weekend, right? So we
went to the other town. It's a
00:22:20.87\00:22:28.74
party at the University of
Florida. There have like a party
weekend for the FA turned out.
00:22:28.74\00:22:31.81
Wasn't right. But, you know, I
can get all that Friday night
Friday to go out to a Vesper
00:22:31.81\00:22:40.02
De And so I wanted to I want to
get to this like the kid, the
campus avenue over there
00:22:40.02\00:22:44.63
with like the fraternity letters
on his fraternities on college
campuses. For those on
00:22:44.63\00:22:49.66
it's a big like a Absolutely.
You >> So I walk into the air
00:22:49.66\00:22:53.20
and like this guy walks up to me
and he gives me like the secret
00:22:53.20\00:22:57.04
handshake for the fraternity
that I wasn't. And he was like,
I'm not with anyone and with
00:22:57.04\00:23:05.35
anymore. I was like, We'll talk
after. I don't know. But I just
know that we had a discussion
00:23:05.35\00:23:10.15
after. Looking back at that
moment. We were just sitting
there saying that there was a
00:23:10.15\00:23:15.39
beam of light missed. They have.
That was saying his is my
moment. that right.
00:23:15.39\00:23:22.63
>> From that point it was just
as rerouting, you know, raise
Cobra that had been Blau. We
00:23:22.63\00:23:30.27
spread. It is staying in. You
know, ups and downs, valleys
hill. Since no, I've been God
00:23:30.27\00:23:38.08
Scott's hand, you know, since
that moment. So and then I think
thank And so you have.
00:23:38.08\00:23:41.85
>> You know, this is what we've
been doing up to this point is
here in these guys,
00:23:41.85\00:23:45.75
the story that might mean be a
little different than what we
normally do. We have a
00:23:45.75\00:23:49.79
ministry like this small as a
powerful. Yeah, because what
we're getting to know, you
00:23:49.79\00:23:52.93
guys and we're about to get into
salt and what salt is doing with
00:23:52.93\00:23:54.93
salt has been doing. And I've
got as guys but to hear your
individual testimonies to see
00:23:54.93\00:24:00.77
where God has brought you from
and to see where you are now.
That's a miracle. miracle of
00:24:00.77\00:24:05.91
salvation powerful. greatest
miracle of God is a change like
00:24:05.91\00:24:11.01
yes, yes, yeah. Absolutely. So
now you guys with salt come back
to 2, too willing offer in just
00:24:11.01\00:24:14.68
a moment regards to your your
involvement in salt. But I want
to come back to Eric.
00:24:14.68\00:24:19.75
You're Eric. Tell us what in the
world of soccer we've been
saying that I know someone
00:24:19.75\00:24:24.66
homes like, OK, salt is what I
use when I when I eat my dinner,
my breakfast or might
00:24:24.66\00:24:28.63
you know, it's a little bit of
something I put on my on my
food. in this case.
00:24:28.63\00:24:33.54
>> Salt outreach. Tell us a
little bit about what it's all
the background history, how
00:24:33.54\00:24:35.80
you got involved and then we'll
get we'll go from there. Yeah.
So salt is an acronym
00:24:35.80\00:24:41.21
for service and love together.
We're on a mobile drop-in center
for people experiencing
00:24:41.21\00:24:47.92
homelessness. So normally
drop-in centers are buildings
where people someone
00:24:47.92\00:24:51.69
experiencing homelessness might
go to to get a shower case.
Management, laundry
00:24:51.69\00:24:54.99
storage mail, whatever. So we've
been able to create that model.
But on wheels which has
00:24:54.99\00:25:02.63
been able to get past a lot of
red tape in local a government
sent in in the and so right
00:25:02.63\00:25:10.11
now we're operating 5 days a
week in downtown Orlando. We're
serving upwards to 200
00:25:10.11\00:25:13.78
people per day. With 12
different So and a lot of our
services we offer mobile form
00:25:13.78\00:25:20.92
actually have a video. I can we
can play just kind of get yes,
you are as a visual of
00:25:20.92\00:25:26.39
what it looks like. You can kind
of keep going from there, OK,
OK? So let's go to that
00:25:26.39\00:25:30.79
video right now. We'll come back
and talk about this a little bit
00:25:30.79\00:25:34.40
more. >> I this sell-off has ¤ ¤
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¤ >> Praise kind. I can get down
with that kind of you need to
00:27:55.60\00:28:10.39
share with love it. I love it.
So explain to us a little bit
more in detail what we just
00:28:10.39\00:28:14.52
saw on that video and what you
guys are doing. Yeah, yeah. So
so you know, that was actually
00:28:14.52\00:28:20.40
a video of a friend. Richie was
experiencing homelessness right
now at the moment. But
00:28:20.40\00:28:23.33
he he agreed to be in this video
to kind of walk through the
different services that we
00:28:23.33\00:28:29.14
offer. and and it didn't all
start that way. If it grew
gradually over time. And
00:28:29.14\00:28:33.44
that's that's kind of. You know,
3 ABN. We've been here, you
know, from the beginning.
00:28:33.44\00:28:40.82
Sure. And and and and as we've
come on. >> Every year, every 6
00:28:40.82\00:28:43.85
months, Scott is doing something
different. Yes, and like right
now, I mean, we have, you
00:28:43.85\00:28:51.79
know, 35 you know, we're serving
200 people day 5 days a week. I
00:28:51.79\00:28:55.36
mean, it's it's grown a lot, but
it started with 2 people feeding
10 to 15 people Dench and in
00:28:55.36\00:29:03.30
downtown Orlando. And he's a
lawyer and that was back in 2011
and the 2011. And I'm really
00:29:03.30\00:29:10.41
what helped grow this
organization and make it become
what it is is God inspiring the
00:29:10.41\00:29:15.68
idea to do surveys with our
friends because we you know, I
think when people experiencing
00:29:15.68\00:29:20.39
homelessness a lot of the time,
we like to assume what they need
right now. Ye, we're
00:29:20.39\00:29:26.06
like, oh, well, they don't have
anything, this and that, you
know. But but we really
00:29:26.06\00:29:28.06
just need to ask, you know, and
so we did surveys and went. And
00:29:28.06\00:29:33.40
so we started, you know, it grew
to hundreds of people feeding 2
to 300 people on a biweekly
00:29:33.40\00:29:38.21
basis. And by 2013, by 2016, our
survey showed that clothing and
hygiene was a big need so we
00:29:38.21\00:29:45.28
raise to 4,000 were for clothing
trailer. would call changed. We
00:29:45.28\00:29:50.52
distribute from there. We
continue the surveys and found
out that over half of the people
00:29:50.52\00:29:54.69
are serving. We're actively
looking for work. But those same
people haven't showered in 3 to
00:29:54.69\00:29:58.06
7 days. Some of them had a
shower in 3 months. It was a
guy. I remember him. I would I
00:29:58.06\00:30:04.77
would I was getting to know. And
every time I go out there, we're
doing the food share
00:30:04.77\00:30:08.84
every other week high and he'd
be like Erica got another. And
if you know, pray for me, I'm
00:30:08.84\00:30:13.34
like I got pray and then the 2
weeks later head and get that
one by got another one. When I
00:30:13.34\00:30:17.15
did his survey, he was one of
the guys had showers over 3
months. And and it's like no
00:30:17.15\00:30:22.32
wonder the skies and getting a
job. He can't. There's no place
to shop you. Now. And so
00:30:22.32\00:30:27.46
that was 2018 or watch the
shower trailer and at that time,
that's when we launched
00:30:27.46\00:30:32.26
really the concept of a mobile
drop-in center. But we're only
offering 5 services at that
00:30:32.26\00:30:36.16
time showers, clothing, hygiene,
haircuts, and food. And and so,
00:30:36.16\00:30:42.14
you know, we're doing that just
once a month. And then 2019 was
twice a month in 2021. To 3
00:30:42.14\00:30:47.68
times a month. Then COVID hit
when COVID hit. That was when
there was a huge growth spurt. I
00:30:47.68\00:30:55.88
guess you could say, you know,
God really just infused some
some funding and things like
00:30:55.88\00:31:02.62
that. And because at that time,
all the organization serving the
00:31:02.62\00:31:06.49
unsheltered stopped operating,
you know, they either where you
know? And it's because the
00:31:06.49\00:31:12.27
answer to the virus. So it sort
of makes sense, you know, but
we're much young people weren't
00:31:12.27\00:31:19.64
outside operation. And in March
came, we prayed and we're like,
00:31:19.64\00:31:22.91
you know what we just we've got
to keep going. We can't leave
them. There are no services, you
00:31:22.91\00:31:27.08
know, for that. And so because
we did the city of Orlando
actually gave us a grant of that
00:31:27.08\00:31:33.19
you that year. They give us
about $200,000. And then we had
raised about 160,000 or so hit
00:31:33.19\00:31:40.53
the post. But just interrupt,
you, visit the bomb. But this is
powerful because I've had
00:31:40.53\00:31:44.23
so many people ask me over the
years, especially when I'm done.
00:31:44.23\00:31:47.87
>> Evangelistic training because
I travel sometimes to different
churches. Invite me
00:31:47.87\00:31:50.27
out and I'll do an evangelist to
training on how to help churches
adopt and evangelism
00:31:50.27\00:31:57.91
cycle in their church. But the
idea is often the concept is it
would become so Bible
00:31:57.91\00:32:01.45
study, Central or Bible study
focused, which is great. We got
to have the Bible studies.
00:32:01.45\00:32:07.69
I often tell people do you start
with war now? What do we start
go to the people in your
00:32:07.69\00:32:13.63
go to your mayor. Go to your
you, though, the leaders of your
community and ask what it
00:32:13.63\00:32:19.57
is they need. And I love that
you guys are doing that because
00:32:19.57\00:32:22.40
now you've got the city behind
you, bro. Yeah, it is to sit
those power. The crazy thing is
00:32:22.40\00:32:25.97
we start a relationship with
them back in the end of 2018. >>
And so going to the mayor
00:32:25.97\00:32:32.15
going to their Yeah. Beating
with Creating relationship an
and by that time when COVID
00:32:32.15\00:32:37.62
hit because so in 2019, we
actually had put out some
proposals were like, look,
00:32:37.62\00:32:43.49
we're operating twice a month,
but we believe in God has put on
a heart that we need to
00:32:43.49\00:32:46.33
operate at least 3 days a week.
Meet this need. And so we put
00:32:46.33\00:32:51.90
our proposals for $100,000 to
the city into other areas. And
every time we get to that one
00:32:51.90\00:32:57.14
level, present. They're like,
OK, we go to the next place next
place. But we get to the top.
00:32:57.14\00:33:02.71
It never get. Didn't get
approved So when COVID hit and
we're continuing to operate,
00:33:02.71\00:33:07.88
those people were present. The 2
were like, hey, let's revisit
that proposal. Wow.
00:33:07.88\00:33:13.22
And and and so and that the
crazy thing about it is even
though we were denied in 2019,
00:33:13.22\00:33:18.46
we knew it was still in a heart,
you know. And so we said we're
going to keep going
00:33:18.46\00:33:22.56
because even if we can't get the
funding immediately right away.
Got is put on our heart
00:33:22.56\00:33:27.04
somehow he's going to help us
grow. To the point we can do
this. That's powerful because
00:33:27.04\00:33:30.74
a lot of people would would that
door would close and many people
get discouraged. So,
00:33:30.74\00:33:37.55
you right, right? Dogs 9 behind
isn't. So, you know, maybe we
should just let it go
00:33:37.55\00:33:41.32
and figure out to do something
else. But you guys said no. >>
This is, you know, we're
00:33:41.32\00:33:45.09
commission to do this. It's very
clear in God's word that this is
what we're supposed to
00:33:45.09\00:33:47.99
be doing And so, you know, we're
going to pressing for that dorm
out of clothes. But
00:33:47.99\00:33:52.43
God is going make a late and got
up there smiling, like, you
know, what? Yeah, going
00:33:52.43\00:33:56.00
because I've got a plan next
year. Something coming. Yes,
system you know, the story of
00:33:56.00\00:34:01.57
Jesus when he's like to all the
teachers, how to pray. And he's
like, well, there's a guy
00:34:01.57\00:34:04.01
who's a home. kids sleeping.
Midnight guy comes looking for
like I can sugar or something.
00:34:04.01\00:34:14.22
So you maybe but he's knocking
on the door. That's right. He's
like, did he get up
00:34:14.22\00:34:16.62
because he's good friends
because the guys purses is not
yeah. He's like that. He's
00:34:16.62\00:34:21.89
like knock. It will be open to
Noah and actually it's in the
original Greek right? There's
00:34:21.89\00:34:26.09
a map 7, 0, knock and it
actually says in the original
Greek keep Keep asking, Yeah,
00:34:26.09\00:34:35.34
keeps sinking because that
persistence, it opens up a world
of of of greatness that
00:34:35.34\00:34:39.64
God can do through you if you
persist and may not be his time
at the moment keep going
00:34:39.64\00:34:44.61
because that time will show up
and he will work a marvelous
working it you know, it's it's
00:34:44.61\00:34:48.45
mind blowing to me because if we
did not continue to to move
forward in faith, even though
00:34:48.45\00:34:53.52
we didn't know how we're just
going to gradually build up, you
know, when and where to 2
00:34:53.52\00:34:56.29
times a month of 2019, raise a
little more mind with OK, let's
go to 3 times a month in
00:34:56.29\00:35:02.20
2020 and then at and in February
of 2020, we said, OK, well, want
00:35:02.20\00:35:07.14
to go to once a week now. So we
need to hire 2 part-time staff.
People. >> So we start to build
00:35:07.14\00:35:11.31
the infrastructure to to be able
to have staff right and get all
the insurance we need and
00:35:11.31\00:35:15.11
all all that played out and then
March COVID hit and, you know,
we get this influx of
00:35:15.11\00:35:21.25
funding. If we did not build the
infrastructure before that we
would not have been able to
00:35:21.25\00:35:26.52
take that grant and we would not
be where we are today we would
00:35:26.52\00:35:30.53
have had to stop operating. Wow.
And so if we because we continue
to move forward in faith, that's
00:35:30.53\00:35:36.63
right. Got we open the capacity
for got to be able to blast in
that way. And and he
00:35:36.63\00:35:41.87
did it, you know, and
unfortunately, obviously it was
a it was a earth changing
00:35:41.87\00:35:48.41
as a pandemic. It was new was
a horrible experience, you know,
00:35:48.41\00:35:53.48
but but God, God definitely use
that experience to to to help us
to be able to help the community
00:35:53.48\00:35:59.25
even more, you know, coming at
us. >> That is amazing. That is
that some parents and put
00:35:59.25\00:36:03.89
incredible so let's talk
about it. >> We're so since so
00:36:03.89\00:36:10.20
obviously. >> What were
some of the What are some of the
00:36:10.20\00:36:16.77
challenges during COVID that you
guys experience during that time
because I know they had to be
00:36:16.77\00:36:19.71
tough when you're doing during
such a time, it seemed like
maybe everyone was flocking
00:36:19.71\00:36:24.91
toward you guys since you were
the only ministry. Did you see a
an increase or we remain the
00:36:24.91\00:36:31.29
same kind of die off. What was
your experience that we are an
increase before that 2019?
00:36:31.29\00:36:35.69
We're serving about 50 people
in the event >> and it will end
00:36:35.69\00:36:40.40
when COVID hit were offering 3
days a week. Now. So, you know,
3 times a month to 3 days a week
00:36:40.40\00:36:45.47
and now we're serving 80 to 100
people a day. And so we have to
00:36:45.47\00:36:52.74
include we hand washing station
masks sanitizers. You know,
things like that. It was it was
00:36:52.74\00:36:55.31
difficult. I mean, we we made
the decision to pay hazard pay
to our you because they're out
00:36:55.31\00:37:03.85
there and you know, they could
potentially get sick. And still
there's uncertainty
00:37:03.85\00:37:09.16
there. Sure. you know, we even I
remember one night, my wife and
I were so worried about.
00:37:09.16\00:37:14.56
You know, our staff being out
there. And and, you know, some
of them have vulnerable family
00:37:14.56\00:37:17.87
members in the beginning. So one
night we just felt the strong
impression and I know
00:37:17.87\00:37:22.70
it's the spirit sane, the
message, the Hilton At 12, 30 at
12, 30 minute like 12, 30
00:37:22.70\00:37:34.58
at night. >> I send the message
the Hilton might look, we have
00:37:34.58\00:37:38.72
this is what we're doing. We
have staff out there. They're
having to go home to their
00:37:38.72\00:37:42.12
family immediately after this
outreach. >> They don't know if
00:37:42.12\00:37:44.83
that the virus or not their
frayed. Can the Hilton support?
You know? And for 3 or 4 days
00:37:44.83\00:37:53.10
later, they message back. got a
call. We get on a call there
like air. The weirdest thing is
00:37:53.10\00:37:57.84
we're actually housing the
National Guard here to do all
the testing. So we actually
00:37:57.84\00:38:02.91
have extra rooms that we can put
your staff. They gave us up to.
00:38:02.91\00:38:10.79
They gave us up to $100,000
worth over over area. So 2 of
our staff members were able to
00:38:10.79\00:38:14.96
go there and and after their
shower. >> Clean up. If they
want to go home, it could or
00:38:14.96\00:38:18.43
they could stay there to make
sure if they had it. They have
to go home. Don't don't tell me
00:38:18.43\00:38:22.93
there's not a Yeah, I mean,
because again, this is no
disrespect. Praise God for all
00:38:22.93\00:38:28.50
the different. >> Types of of
amenities out their regards to
00:38:28.50\00:38:31.91
hotels, motels, things like
that. But you know, it could
have been like in and get no
00:38:31.91\00:38:37.25
disrespect here, but it could
have been like, you know, motel
6 days in, right for some, you
00:38:37.25\00:38:43.25
know, for lack of a better term.
Some broken down old place down
the road. God said call
00:38:43.25\00:38:47.79
Hilton. The last person in the
world last place in the World
Youth something like that up
00:38:47.79\00:38:54.60
to Alton, which is one of the
facility. Ennis. >> Yeah. And I
00:38:54.60\00:39:01.67
drive like world, course there.
Yeah. And you know, one of one
of the people staying there was
00:39:01.67\00:39:07.54
one of our friends ex was
experiencing homelessness. Name
is Pat he was a he was
00:39:07.54\00:39:12.11
someone. We met him in 2019. you
know, in 2019, you know, he he
was so grateful for the
00:39:12.11\00:39:18.55
shower, want to clean the
shower. After each person, the
showers were yeah, let's do
00:39:18.55\00:39:22.89
that. You know, became part of
the family. 29 and when tweet
hearts that more staff in 2020
00:39:22.89\00:39:28.20
because of the funding were like
okay, let's hire Pat. You know,
so we hard path. But in
00:39:28.20\00:39:34.50
the end, he when we we ended his
homelessness immediately because
we're able to get into
00:39:34.50\00:39:37.57
the Hilton OEM. And so he was
staying in the Hilton for 3, 4,
months, but AF after about
00:39:37.57\00:39:42.51
the 3rd Monte start to lend.
when he was limping, you know,
we're like, hey, go get that
00:39:42.51\00:39:48.45
checked out. He's like, I'm
good. I'm good, you know? But
eventually the pain became too
00:39:48.45\00:39:53.82
much so low. They tweet to the
hospital. the doctor told him he
only had a a few weeks to
00:39:53.82\00:39:58.26
live. Only few weeks to live
heat. He was diagnosed with
stage 4 lung cancer had
00:39:58.26\00:40:05.23
metastasized and spread to his
hip. That's why he was And so we
brought them to instead
00:40:05.23\00:40:11.24
we're going to move into a home
after this period at the Hilton
were saving up some
00:40:11.24\00:40:14.41
money for him. you know, instead
we use that money to get in the
00:40:14.41\00:40:20.35
hotel downtown, seek a stay by
his friends. He didn't want to
stay in the hospital because of
00:40:20.35\00:40:22.95
COVID restrictions. So we went
to a hotel room. He knew his
last request was to be baptized.
00:40:22.95\00:40:30.06
So we've got a pastor over and
and we're able to baptize him in
the bathtub of that room
00:40:30.06\00:40:34.63
next weekend with the hospice.
My wife and I went there. We pay
within. Talked with him in
00:40:34.63\00:40:36.90
the next morning. He passed
away. But, you know, I one is
I'm excited that we're going
00:40:36.90\00:40:43.91
to see him again and have and I
with a brand new body health his
right arm and the other.
00:40:43.91\00:40:48.48
The other thing is God had his
last few months on this area in
the Hilton. Yeah. It was
00:40:48.48\00:40:55.55
experiencing homelessness,
homelessness to the heel to the
Hill, the Hill to and he's
00:40:55.55\00:40:59.55
his last last month. And and,
you know, I feel like there's so
many ways got tie this all
00:40:59.55\00:41:03.19
in together. You know I'm saying
even more importantly. >> God
used Salt Ministry to
00:41:03.19\00:41:09.60
minister to their brothers needs
to bring him to Jesus. And then
that's powerful. then
00:41:09.60\00:41:17.67
Oakland thought about something
about following through on the
00:41:17.67\00:41:20.51
prompting of the Holy and why
sometimes it can seem scary. And
you can see why God, are you
00:41:20.51\00:41:24.18
sure that you want me to do
that? Because if he didn't
follow through on that 12, 30,
00:41:24.18\00:41:29.32
our brother might not have able
to experience, you know, kind of
a luxurious sweet ending to
00:41:29.32\00:41:37.79
his time here and, you know, on
Earth. So well, it's just this
is interesting. Sometimes
00:41:37.79\00:41:43.47
when we get those prompting some
who know. Absolutely. Yeah, I
have to ask you going
00:41:43.47\00:41:47.64
back here because I'm just
curious has as yet talking about
the surveys. So when you
00:41:47.64\00:41:51.61
guys decided to do the surveys
like how did you conduct Alec,
why did you did you just go up
00:41:51.61\00:41:56.51
to random homeless people on the
street or did you only do it for
the people that were
00:41:56.51\00:42:00.45
responding in coming to you?
Yes, so we were doing food chain
is bringing 2 to 300
00:42:00.45\00:42:04.59
people. So every other week. So
we just got some volunteers. We
00:42:04.59\00:42:08.29
may like a little. >> survey
on the phone because you're made
00:42:08.29\00:42:12.99
out of a SurveyMonkey. Kind of.
Okay. Yeah. And they were just
on the phone, ask the questions
00:42:12.99\00:42:16.16
and submit it and then we were
able to analyze it later. So
that's awesome. That's a great
00:42:16.16\00:42:20.24
way. A lot of people ask, you
know, how can I how can I reach
00:42:20.24\00:42:23.87
the people in my community? How
do I know what they need last
them? And that's one way to do a
00:42:23.87\00:42:27.51
survey. Everyone. I was at APCO.
That was a thing before we would
ever go out and give a bible
00:42:27.51\00:42:32.61
study or or or even approached
them with that trying to get a
Bible study with first
00:42:32.61\00:42:37.55
minister to their needs are
asked them what it is that they
needed. Which brings me.
00:42:37.55\00:42:40.09
I got to share this real quick
and we're going to get back to
00:42:40.09\00:42:43.19
you here. >> This is powerful
because what you're saying, what
you guys are doing, what Salt
00:42:43.19\00:42:45.53
Ministry is doing as you are
fulfilling what is called cry
Smith it alone. And in fact,
00:42:45.53\00:42:51.77
let me read this is comes from a
Ministry of Healing Page one.
43. And this is a famous
00:42:51.77\00:42:57.61
quote with many of us, many of
our viewers have probably heard
this before. But there's
00:42:57.61\00:43:01.28
someone out there that probably
has never heard this before at
00:43:01.28\00:43:03.68
one sharing it because this is
called cry Smith alone. this was
written in the book of Ministry
00:43:03.68\00:43:08.38
of Pitch one. 43. And this is
what it says. This is Christ
method alone will give a true
00:43:08.38\00:43:17.03
success. Paused Kriseman what?
What's going only bring true
success. Price method alone.
00:43:17.03\00:43:21.10
Everybody's got their ideas to
how they're going to reach
someone that I think he should
00:43:21.10\00:43:24.67
be. or I've got my theory should
be this way or this way. This
00:43:24.67\00:43:28.07
way. >> All of us can have
theory or own ideas on
perspective as to how to reach
00:43:28.07\00:43:32.24
the human heart and draw them
Christ the right here. It says
Christmas Only that one works.
00:43:32.24\00:43:37.81
Yeah. And so here it is. Christ
method alone will give true
success in reaching the people.
00:43:37.81\00:43:41.92
Here it is. Tell me if it sounds
familiar with what we're talking
about here, the savior
00:43:41.92\00:43:46.92
mingled with people as one who
desire to their good. Okay. He
showed sympathy for them
00:43:46.92\00:43:52.89
minister to their needs and one,
their confidence that we're in
the Bible study at on
00:43:52.89\00:43:59.77
it's in this latter part. It
says after he won the
confidence, then he invited
00:43:59.77\00:44:06.41
them. Follow That follow me.
Part you know, follow me in to
do its part to the scripture.
00:44:06.41\00:44:12.31
Bible study. This is just a key
because I love the reason love
Salt Ministry as you guys
00:44:12.31\00:44:17.42
are fewer fulfilling Chris Smith
a time now to talk to you about
00:44:17.42\00:44:19.59
ministering, you know, bringing
about the spiritual. yes, I
know. That's exactly what you
00:44:19.59\00:44:22.96
guys are ultimately getting it.
But just not a cure out there in
the street. You know, good-bye
00:44:22.96\00:44:28.73
a study and those are great
deals. There are some people out
there like me, if you
00:44:28.73\00:44:30.87
would have been one of those
come knock on my door years ago
and said, hey, you want to
00:44:30.87\00:44:35.67
Bible studies. I you for me, it
didn't really miss necessarily
00:44:35.67\00:44:40.51
need the ministering to my need
part but, you know, that's just
where I was in my life at that
00:44:40.51\00:44:42.78
time. But I knew I wanted the
Bible 90% of the be we're going
to reach out to they
00:44:42.78\00:44:51.55
need that personal evangelism
perspective. They need you to
connect with them on a
00:44:51.55\00:44:55.72
personal level could create a
friendship minister to their
need and win their confidence
00:44:55.72\00:44:59.73
because people aren't going to,
you know, trust you give them
the truth God's word if
00:44:59.73\00:45:03.67
they don't know you. Yeah. And
that's what salt is doing. I
love this ministry because
00:45:03.67\00:45:06.84
they're out there in the
community with the people
ministering to their needs
00:45:06.84\00:45:10.71
mingling with the people gaming
the people's confidence and then
comes the spiritual
00:45:10.71\00:45:13.74
need actual so talk to us about
the spiritual need. What are you
guys doing to question
00:45:13.74\00:45:21.45
ministering to these people's
need? You've got these, you
know, these mobile units out
00:45:21.45\00:45:24.72
there and helping their physical
need. But then now you got
DeJesus. How do you go
00:45:24.72\00:45:28.06
about doing that? So go ahead.
No to fast-forward. It was
because it's crazy. When you
00:45:28.06\00:45:34.00
read that, quote. >> The
progression. Yes, right? Yeah,
00:45:34.00\00:45:41.00
we we to fast forward. You know,
after COVID that those 2020
2021, we launched a case
00:45:41.00\00:45:43.81
management program January and
then in March, when we watch
spiritual care program and this
00:45:43.81\00:45:50.11
diesel with you know, Wilfredo
and Joffrey represent here
because we wanted to make sure I
00:45:50.11\00:45:54.85
think a lot of times the
organizations that are could get
so bogged down with that
00:45:54.85\00:46:00.82
the spiritual needs to kind of
takes a back burner, maybe not
on purpose, right? Right. But
00:46:00.82\00:46:02.99
but it it happened. So we felt
impressed to start bringing in
some people back in spearhead
00:46:02.99\00:46:09.00
the spiritual need. And so and
that's what they're doing here.
So, yeah, definitely on
00:46:09.00\00:46:15.74
my let them kind of share
exactly Cisco you. So let's talk
about how you got in, you
00:46:15.74\00:46:18.31
know, involved with salt you
personally and then we'll get
into how how does it you go
00:46:18.31\00:46:24.41
about developing that spiritual
relationship? Introducing on the
00:46:24.41\00:46:28.85
cross man I got involved with
salts >> when it was first
starting, I don't really back in
00:46:28.85\00:46:36.16
the 2011 when they're doing like
a preacher's club and you know
the feeding stuff like that.
00:46:36.16\00:46:40.76
But then I kind of went my way.
I quid, studied. And then after
Oakwood, I like the
00:46:40.76\00:46:49.57
next. Yeah. Those those 10 years
a Qantas was traveling, right?
You know. And and and
00:46:49.57\00:46:54.21
working in construction working
with family along the way. My my
00:46:54.21\00:46:59.31
mother was a. Dealing with
cancer. Breast cancer. And so
like come and then to the
00:46:59.31\00:47:06.72
treatments and all way and they
do come back and every time my
family at the time was working
00:47:06.72\00:47:15.43
in construction and there are
moving pretty much following the
jobs right there. Moving
00:47:15.43\00:47:19.30
further west. So along one of
those Eric, it's me up and he's
like a man like I you
00:47:19.30\00:47:23.41
know, just an idea. Maybe she
like, you know, ever come back
to Orlando, you know, work
00:47:23.41\00:47:28.54
with salt and, you know, I'm
just like at on like, yeah, you
know, and it was it was
00:47:28.54\00:47:38.95
interesting because it was
always at a time where I was
like in a transition right?
00:47:38.95\00:47:40.99
>> He'll bring it up. I couldn't
talk to them because you remain
00:47:40.99\00:47:46.13
friends always, you're And so
we'll be talking in transition,
man about to like do this. And
00:47:46.13\00:47:49.50
he's like, well. You know, just
pay If you want to come back to
Orlando, you know, this to
00:47:49.50\00:47:56.37
every time I asked them to move
to one state you talk I And then
in California towards
00:47:56.37\00:48:11.22
the end of so I started minister
in California it just happened
to be the year 2020
00:48:11.22\00:48:17.13
right. And so I am stepping in,
you know, don't know anything
00:48:17.13\00:48:22.73
about California. going to pass
you pass position and the world
down. trying to like figure out
00:48:22.73\00:48:28.14
how to do all the things. But
towards the end of that year,
the cancer came back from a
00:48:28.14\00:48:32.07
mother. and they pretty much let
us know like a this is timing of
this is we don't we
00:48:32.07\00:48:40.05
could. And it's up prayer now,
And so I was able to spend the
last part of December with my
00:48:40.05\00:48:50.89
mother in the 1st half of she
passed 26 of 2021 and that shift
in my world completely.
00:48:50.89\00:49:00.50
like, yeah, completely like I
had plans and ideas. I never was
in the comeback Tour I
00:49:00.50\00:49:07.48
just I never imagined back in
Orlando, or not. And so I had
certain jobs lined up. That
00:49:07.48\00:49:14.72
would pretty much like, hey,
man, you're set for like the
next 10 years. You and the
00:49:14.72\00:49:19.75
moment that, you know, you you
feel that it changes everything.
00:49:19.75\00:49:27.30
It changed everything can
relate. The change. They lost my
mother the beginning of 2019 and
00:49:27.30\00:49:34.80
it's changed. >> Everything.
Yeah, I like yes. I know what
00:49:34.80\00:49:37.94
you mean. sorry. For the last
known same back to you. All know
that. I know the feeling feels
00:49:37.94\00:49:41.78
like yeah, man. And so I was
like I think when you go back
home, you so we we decided to to
00:49:41.78\00:49:47.08
bear in Florida, even though
we're in Utah right? we as in
you and your family, I mean,
00:49:47.08\00:49:54.09
my we so we went to Utah and
then we went after the funeral
be back in Orlando. That man
00:49:54.09\00:50:00.06
like this is nice. I realize I
had a lot of support in as to
the other places I was going
00:50:00.06\00:50:07.07
to go to where I would be
financially said I wouldn't be
emotionally. And taking a
00:50:07.07\00:50:16.18
drive by 3 times from Utah to
Florida. You know, a month, I'm
really gave me time to
00:50:16.18\00:50:21.42
think. and with those most I can
someone back to Orlando well,
join salt. All right.
00:50:21.42\00:50:27.32
I'll join salt and >> we finally
got one of the biggest things
00:50:27.32\00:50:35.90
about it, though, is the fact
that Eric was there through the
whole process? Yes, you know, he
00:50:35.90\00:50:41.40
was a friend first and foremost.
And, you know, he was there
praying with me in those
00:50:41.40\00:50:45.04
moments, you know, and all these
things. And so I'm a I'm working
with someone that's
00:50:45.04\00:50:49.04
actually like my brother. cares
for me. And so coming back, a
member of I come down.
00:50:49.04\00:50:54.92
I drove through the night. And I
got in March, it was like a
Saturday night Live 02:03AM,
00:50:54.92\00:51:04.69
in the morning and then Sunday
at like 7 8. I was at Salt, OK?
So it was a first-time
00:51:04.69\00:51:09.53
head of preaching. All right. So
that this year or 2020, 21, 21
of last to preach we work
00:51:09.53\00:51:19.11
with We've got away with a lot
of churches. You know, one of
them has been really
00:51:19.11\00:51:24.15
consistent as a light house, OK,
community church they came out.
They have portable stage,
00:51:24.15\00:51:29.15
you know, get up and I
began to preach and there was no
00:51:29.15\00:51:36.29
connection. >> At Oh, And so one
of things, Eric and I discussed.
>> Now moving into how he
00:51:36.29\00:51:42.63
minister is that we are doing
the Christmas. We're yes,
dealing with the Ps, you know,
00:51:42.63\00:51:47.90
is you know, incarnation all
ministries like I'm here, type
things. You know, let's remove
00:51:47.90\00:51:55.28
the desk as we move soon. I'm
here the first encounter that we
have we started to was just
00:51:55.28\00:52:03.55
like let's start implementing in
this pastoral position in the
special care is that we
00:52:03.55\00:52:06.22
are involved in outreach. Yes.
cleaning showers. Yes, cleaning
toilets, you get your
00:52:06.22\00:52:13.70
hands. Dirty air in there. Yes,
you know, we're doing the
laundry. You know, we're
00:52:13.70\00:52:18.50
outside. You we're not in a
desk, right? You know, where
dress when you have the shirts
00:52:18.50\00:52:22.47
with some sneakers on pants, you
know, and we're out there and
for a good portion of that
00:52:22.47\00:52:29.51
first month. You know, they saw
a few timing for each. I'm
pretty sure they forgot. But I
00:52:29.51\00:52:33.85
didn't even mention I was a
pastor. Wright. I was there. And
in interaction of getting
00:52:33.85\00:52:40.69
things ready for it to meet
their needs. I'll talk to them,
you know, get to know
00:52:40.69\00:52:45.23
that to that it? And then like I
do know, is on old bass and I
having a couple times. I
00:52:45.23\00:52:51.80
don't have any humans have a
couple toward the beginning.
Part with the like your
00:52:51.80\00:52:56.00
pastor. like, yeah. And they're
like, you know, look like one.
00:52:56.00\00:53:02.21
>> What church is that? What
which passed? And I'm like right
00:53:02.21\00:53:05.28
here. >> And then just like what
was like, am I right here about
mic on? it's right here your
00:53:05.28\00:53:11.09
Yeah, you and it's really
redefined with a passer. Looks
like not just for them, but
00:53:11.09\00:53:16.76
also for me, not to say that
Jesus, Jesus property like a
like a You know, their idea of
00:53:16.76\00:53:21.46
a spiritual leader backed it was
a fair C guard from head to toe
in all of the bullying.
00:53:21.46\00:53:27.47
All the you know that, you know,
the fancy clothes and that they
were. But Jesus was
00:53:27.47\00:53:30.17
just an ordinary looking guy.
Yeah, but but, you know, the son
of God and in their midst
00:53:30.17\00:53:34.64
and and so that you're stuck in
your following, that example
getting out there and
00:53:34.64\00:53:40.45
>> he might not have looked the
part but had to following
following the 2 players.
00:53:40.45\00:53:42.45
Absolutely never playing the And
so we started with that and and
that begin to shift I
00:53:42.45\00:53:48.52
because in the next month, you
know what? want preach. It was
very engaging. Very right to
00:53:48.52\00:53:56.10
the point where all our number
one of my friends that's, you
know, done a lot like
00:53:56.10\00:54:00.44
ministry, like preaching to our
home about friends. He's like
I've never seen that
00:54:00.44\00:54:07.38
level of engagement. Yes, no.
And the reason is those that I
know their names. That's
00:54:07.38\00:54:11.38
right. They know say you're not
some stranger. Just given a
Bible to extract telling
00:54:11.38\00:54:14.98
them what do with their If you
happen to in the my proximity
with MPs and I know your name,
00:54:14.98\00:54:21.69
I'm calling you out. It's almost
like, you know it, you such
looking you know, my
00:54:21.69\00:54:27.40
name. Also start to build that
relationship and that's
important you. Got it. got a
00:54:27.40\00:54:31.00
hammer that for a moment because
>> the idea that we often have
00:54:31.00\00:54:35.07
especially in the churches that
we got here, just find some rain
00:54:35.07\00:54:37.11
will be able to do Bible
studies. We have. Is it possible
to find that? Yes, I would have
00:54:37.11\00:54:41.44
been one of those because I just
love truth. All of the Bible.
But again, the mud, vast
00:54:41.44\00:54:44.65
majority of the people you're
ministering to, they're not
going to trust you to 2 and even
00:54:44.65\00:54:49.22
take you series if they don't
have a personal connection, a
personal relationship with you.
00:54:49.22\00:54:53.76
What you guys are doing is
you're getting know them. You
out there ministering to them.
00:54:53.76\00:54:57.76
You're getting to meet them them
on a daily basis. Have a
conversation and you're
00:54:57.76\00:55:02.00
building that confidence in them
so that so their confidence in
00:55:02.00\00:55:06.90
you so that when you get up now
that the word of God, they're
going to take you seriously,
00:55:06.90\00:55:09.70
they're going to be more
Definitely. It's awesome.
Because low they see is OK, you
00:55:09.70\00:55:14.11
preach here. But I see you
preach more with your actions.
Yes, yes, I see moon. I see you
00:55:14.11\00:55:18.95
working, you know, and so we
started to that plan like, okay.
Well, this doing Bible studies.
00:55:18.95\00:55:22.48
Well, so for the one so we can
see, you know how it goes and
started once a week. And we did
00:55:22.48\00:55:28.59
that for a few months. And begin
to grow. I kind of fluctuates,
right? It is because like 20
00:55:28.59\00:55:36.70
people write people the next day
like 20 that they feel like for
like 17. So the main
00:55:36.70\00:55:42.04
thing that we understood was we
need to be You know, yes, with a
consistent yeah. They
00:55:42.04\00:55:49.68
need to see that. We're always
always a representation here.
One day. Get about studies.
00:55:49.68\00:55:56.05
They're like, hey, can we do
every day? And we're like, oh,
yeah, let's let's see. You
00:55:56.05\00:56:01.62
know, let's do to 2 times a Yes,
you and so when he came to times
a week, you know, and
00:56:01.62\00:56:07.86
then a cap be more consistent,
starting a little bit more
people coming for, you know,
00:56:07.86\00:56:13.84
they can we do every day again,
come up again. So where again
meeting the needs were
00:56:13.84\00:56:19.14
not saying like, hey, I think we
should do every day for them.
It's more like they are
00:56:19.14\00:56:25.58
requesting payment. Blessed are
those who hunger and thirst for
00:56:25.58\00:56:29.75
righteousness. Yeah. When they
see Christ in you, they see what
you the scene, the righteousness
00:56:29.75\00:56:34.29
of God in you. Then they're
going to hunger for that which
And that's what you guys are And
00:56:34.29\00:56:39.26
just that's exciting. And 6, I
we have about a minute before
going to take a break in just
00:56:39.26\00:56:42.76
a few moments. If you just now
tuning in, my man, we've got
salt outreach here. If you
00:56:42.76\00:56:48.87
just now tuning in, you've
missed an incredible blessing of
00:56:48.87\00:56:53.81
the last hour. the blessings not
finished because we have a whole
nother. Our with these brothers
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were going to go a little deeper
effect. When we come back, we're
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going to finish. >> Up with And
we're going to over here that a
job for talk about that
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spiritual need. What God doing
through you, my brother. But,
you know, just got us a minute.
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This is this is so encouraging
because oftentimes even as a
minister, you know, who plays a
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different role in ministry,
often find myself, you hungering
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and thirsting for that
experience. You know, that
personal experience, one thing
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to be able to preach to a group
of people or 2 to get out there
and in say certain things in
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relation to the word of God. But
when you are serving people,
that's where true happiness
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comes from. And that's what you
guys are feeling. Salt Ministry
doing it right, folks. We're
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going to take a quick break.
Don't go anywhere. Okay. an
Illinois you may tempted to go
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to bed. Don't go to bed just yet
where you are. We're going take
a short break. We'll be right
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back in just a minute to
continue our conversation. >>
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