>> Welcome back to the second
now of a program that I believe
is most relevant for
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the growth and the >> health of
the Christian Church evangelism.
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One word that on which the
salvation of all of humanity is
hinged. We've had past the
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camera division is going to
continue. Thank you for what you
talk about in the first hour. I
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think your side, I don't know. I
get that impression. But thank
you for your passion and
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your commitment to evangelism
and what you do for the cause of
Christ. And some of the
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myths and misconceptions of the
evangelists. And if you're just
joining us, you may have
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missed the first out. But we're
going to continue and maybe
reiterate some of those
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things. But what I want to start
and buy diving into is giving
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our viewers and listeners the
information that they would
need. We are taking questions in
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this hour. And if you have any
questions about evangelism, you
could be about budget. So
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whatever the method, whatever
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those in before this hour's
open, which are past division
will try to answer those. one
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of the questions I exit out
with. And I like to come back in
to that is it deceptive to
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hide our denominational identity
to do it. Public evangelism, I
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would say it a definitive no. It
is not deceptive it. Now, let's
walk through a little bit now.
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This concept is I think deeply
rooted like what we need to tell
people that like you put
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out an advertisement, it should
say brought to you by the 7th
Avenue Church. teach
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about that. >> And we we feel
probably a good feeling. We want
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to make sure you get everything
out on the table. So there's no
questions at all. But if you
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look at the Ministry of Jesus,
for example, OK, many times that
he tell people and don't
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tell people who did this. Don't
when Peters confession of
Christ, he said knots, keep
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this to yourself essentially,
right? People he'll be 6. Don't
go tell the precinct
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what was going on. The
quintessential example, in my
estimation, is the road to Why
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Luke Chapter? 24 Jesus, his, you
know, walking along with these
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disciples. But he purposefully
disguises right? And so it's not
deceptive. He didn't call
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himself another name but heat.
He limited their exposure to
information to what they could
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handle at the time. Right. And
so why does he do? And he's
walking along the and the the
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interaction. If you've never of
the story you've 24 in fastest
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of is one of my favorites. I
think great. I preached a sermon
in the Spanish country not
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called it. Agua hot water, hot
water because you know the word
emails means hot water. How
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about week, OK, Andrew Cement
peace. So they were leaving
Jerusalem. The city of peace
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going downhill 7 miles on their
way to hot water, hot water when
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they met Jesus and of that
identity. So >> let's go to
that. I love areas. Just
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instrumental. Look, ye and in
take a look at it and says he
had to. 24 is overturning
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exactly. It says here, let's go
down to let's go to first 15 K
so was while they conversed in
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reason to these are these
disappointed disciples right
after the they didn't know the
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resurrection of Jesus happen
that Jesus himself drew near and
went with them to try. And
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that's all we had They should
be. So your choice for their
walking with Jesus. But an
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expert says. >> But their eyes
were restrained so that they did
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not know him. He didn't identify
the purposely their eyes were
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strain. So he was still the same
person. But made sure they
didn't recognize him. That
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right. And then he starts going
through the motions of this.
What kind of conversation is why
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are downtrodden and they start
to love this correcting Jesus,
teaching Jesus or you're the
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only one who doesn't know what
went Then where have you been
these? Then? He without
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revealing his identity right? It
says here, then in 25 foolish
ones and slow of hard
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to believe in all that the
profits have spoken. not the
Christ who have suffered these
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things and to enter into his
glory and notice 27 and
beginning at Moses, of course,
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is the first author of
Scriptures. That could be the
book of Genesis itself right?
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Moses and all the profits he
expounded to them in all the
scriptures, the things
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concerning himself. He was
teaching them about himself
without revealing himself.
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That right. So why did he do it
in this? Wouldn't the simplest
way to reveal himself
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be high? But he didn't do that.
Why? Because he wanted to walk
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them through an understanding of
God's word so that when they did
have the recognition of who was
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it wasn't based on a fleeting
feeling or some sort of like
something else that could be
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blown away by some other wind of
Dist. They would have an
established faith on the word
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of God. Now, as the story
continues at CES. He goes on.
They constrained him a verse.
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29 saying abide with us for just
toward evening. The day is far
spent. First 30 now
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when it came to pass as he sat
at the table with them that he
took bread, blessed and broke
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it and gave it to them. Then
their eyes were open to try and
they knew him. now I like
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to read into this just a little
bit. He's sitting at table with
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them and now he extends himself
to give them the bread, right?
That's right. Dimon, opens up
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those hands and for him brief
moment. Their eyes are
completely unveiled, right?
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And they know exactly who he is.
And then it says and he vanished
from their site. So
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far, only a brief moment that
they see Jesus face to face. It
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had to be the most exhilarating
like. Flood of light dawning on
them. They like, oh, and I have
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to imagine that Jesus maybe
smiled and winked or something
as he left, you know, but
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regardless he vanishes and what
was their And they said to one
another verse. 32, it
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did not. Our heartburn with in
us while he talked with us on
the road. And while he what
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open the scriptures open the
switch. They looked back and
said. The power of this moment
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wasn't just seeing Jesus in
person. It was understanding
Jesus from the scripture
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itself. Now we have a faith that
even if Jesus is not here
personally in our present, we
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have a knowledge of who he is.
That is as solid as scripture
itself. So the method Jesus
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use was he was scriptural before
he became personal. Well,
exactly, especially in
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primary and this story exactly
when you think about it. If we
were to start off by saying
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we're 7th Avenue, we believe in
and mortality. So we believe in
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the second coming is not. It's
too much right? It's over. It's
over killed, right? It is not
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being as wise as serpents and
harmless as doves, which by the
way, Jesus gave that in the
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context of soul winning
evangelist, he says I'm sending
you out and you need to be wise
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as serpents witches. You know,
the serpent is a representation
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of Satan, but Florida, Satan.
But pure is Christ right. And so
we have the example of crisis
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see how to apply that in the
work of so winning an evangelist
sister. What makes an
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interesting comment on this? 2
of 2, brother who's headed out
on a missionary in Denver. You
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can find this in testimony to
Southern Africa Page 17. She
says this to this missionary.
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Do not feel that you're bound
and duty. The first thing to
tell the people we're 7 Davin
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us. We believe the 7th is a
Sabbath. We believe in the
mortality, the soul.
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>> And thus direct, most
formidable barriers between you
and those who wish to
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reach. And she explains how do
not feel as an honest man that
you must tell all that you do
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believe at the very onset. So
it's not at all deceptive to say
we're going to be looking
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at prophecies from the word of
God and we're going to open our
bibles and see what his
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for truth is for today. And we
look at the signs of the end.
We're going to look at
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prophetic images. That's exactly
what we're going to be doing it
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right. And so it's not at all
disingenuous. We don't start off
with the state of the dead or
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that secret rapture or the mark
of the beast. We're going to get
there as people walk through
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scripture. And when we get to
the rim that church well start
to say, well, OK, what I'm
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looking for, these identifying
characteristics who keep the
Commandments of God that the
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testimony of Jesus who preach
the 3 Angels message? Well,
there's only one option left
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trying, right? So it's not at
all bait and switch. It's
exactly the method that Christ
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used to help people see and see
the truth as it is in Jesus and
build their faith on
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something solid. That's very
good because a lot of times.
Being a involved in media past
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with the evidence church for 35
years now seeing the storms
because sometimes people tend
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to pigeonhole. To nominations
based on their miske
understanding of the
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nominating. >> And that's
not unusual. I've often said to
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people, if you want to find out
what we believe is people don't
go to you to come to us because
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you to vote. I think that
explains it all for sure if
YouTube universe, but it's also
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very skew toward the person
that's making the presentation.
And some people say, well, you
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know, they hide their identity,
didn't want you to know anything
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they want to sneak up on you and
kind of just draw all u N. But
if you look at the scriptures
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data's, not exactly what that's
not at all. What being done. You
follow the method of crisis as
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in first. 35. He was known to
them in the breaking of Wait a
minute. That was a seven-mile
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journey. Why did he reveal
himself in the first What about
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the Second did you forget in the
3rd Miley could have said to him
on the Christ couldn't taken the
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opportunity when when they were
saying are you the only one in
Jerusalem that didn't know what
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happened? You could is that,
hey, it happened to me like I
know. First, I know first he
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could have done in the 4th mile.
Why not? The 5th smile? I mean,
surely you welcome 6
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miles and nothing happens. You
about to walk right past my
house and you would not have
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come in unless we invited you
in. You wait to the last moment
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to the breaking of bread. It was
him all along. So here's the
point that you made and I really
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like this. Let the focal point
not be you. God's word. Yes. And
when the focal point is God's
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word, you'll find Christ. Amen.
That's exactly what I get in
first. 35. He was known to
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them in the breaking of bread.
It's not about us. It's about
him. But the revelation of
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Jesus, which is a book of
revelation, be the focal point.
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So so it's not deceptive. Then
to not at the very outset say,
hey, guys, here's who we are.
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That's what we've been doing for
the last 135 years. no, just
say, well, hey, we want to share
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with you what God's word says,
absent you'll discover God in
the process, if you again, did
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the best exemplar of this is
Jesus himself. You look at the
woman at the way you look at
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every interaction he meets them
where they are and starts there,
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you know, and just works with
them. From that perspective and
guides them on to what they can
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it handle. And it's exactly the
method of Jesus. He. You hit
another example, the woman at
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the well, he said when he was.
Pulling that slowly out that
evangelistic through, think is
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that, hey, by the way, when you
get some water, let me let me
take care that water. Come
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on up. But he that to me. I call
that the reciprocal because lot
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of times we think that Jesus
just once something from us. So
at that, we want something from
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But that's the first time I saw
script of what he wants.
Something from us. Get me to
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drink. He wants us to quench his
thirst. Also. But let's go back
to this here because some
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questions have come in. Okay
that I want castaway and we
have, by the way, have quite a
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bit to cover. We'll try to get
this in before the album just
10. Some of these questions. I
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think this is a common and the
answer. The question. Church
needs a Bible worker that will
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do Bible work. Letitia
evangelism, untrained eye
members, adult and youth in
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that work. Had little success in
finding one. How do we find one?
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Well, that's a challenging
question if you're looking for
by the worker. But the first
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thing I would say because I'm
not a specialist and I don't
have a whole stack of Bible
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workers. I can deploy out there,
you know, ministries that
trained by the workers for that
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very cause. But I will tell you
that. >> Employment of Bible
workers as a vocation has gone
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down tremendously in the last
decade or so. You know it his
reasons for unemployment in
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conference in church is stipends
and all kinds of structural
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things have been dent in that. I
would say that if there was no
such thing as a Bible worker. By
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the work should still go forward
and the ultimate goal would be
the have the minister not only
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be an evangelist in his
own right, but trainer of
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Evangelists in the congregation
so that church members
themselves would be out there
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giving Bible studies finding
leads an interest in doing the
work of evangelists in the full
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cycle, partnering with pastor
the public phase and all the
different things that go into
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it. That Situates says that
every church should be a
training school for Christian
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workers tried and that the
member should be taught how to
get Bible studies, how to get
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how to teach at a school
classes, how to help the poor
and how to work for the
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unconverted. And so we
oftentimes have a model. Right
now where and, you know, an
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average church might have 100
members and they're watching one
man work. When the reality is
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his job is to help them to get
to do their job. Watch that. We
have 101 workers in the church.
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And so, yes, he's still going to
his individual labor. But his
other job is to help. In fact,
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let's take a look at this in a
fusion is with you, OK?
Ephesians chapter for one of
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the day. Powerful things we find
in scripture is this division of
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Duty, if you will, in the body
of Christ in fees Chapter 4
verse 11, it says and he gave he
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himself, gave some to be
apostles. Some profits, some
evangelists and some pastors and
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teachers. Let's pause right
there. The fact that says some
strongly implies that is not all
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but some are right. Some are
pastors. And what's the purpose
of these positions in
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the church for the equipping of
the Saints? Exactly work of
minutes, right for equipping
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the Saints to do work of
ministry. Right? And if you skip
down to the end, he talks
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about how the whole body joining
together. But I want everyone
Pfizer, 16, exactly
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when every part doesn't share
causes growth of the body price.
Right? So sometimes
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people like if we only had a
pastor or a trainer or teacher
or an evangelist, then the
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work we go forward. But the
Bible tells us that the role of
the pastor, they've
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Angeles, the teacher is to
equip the members for missionary
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service. So while it can be a
benefit and there are occasions
when you can have a Bible worker
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praise the Lord, but I like
their emphasis. If you're
bringing them in, they shouldn't
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be just there to do the work. It
should be helping us to know how
to do the work. So that by
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God's grace, we'll all be
workers in the cause I didn't
actually mention that in the
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early part of the problem. The
ephesians 2.10, Aspen, but we
are as workmanship. that's our
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employment to do. Work. Here's
why God calls us. you know, it's
like saying a I keep
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going back to the Apple example.
You know, we need somebody to
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cell phones. Don't you work for
Apple in the Apple Store? What
do you do? Well? I believe in
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the product, but I'm not. Train
to cell So are you technician?
No. But I work for Apple, but
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so what do you do? Well? I love
their product like, well, I'm a
little boy by Apple, but
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each one of us has something to
do so shoe sometimes it falls on
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the shoulder of us has passed
us. What if I have no church
support for evangelism? They
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either don't have the budget. do
not want to help evangelize. Do
I try to find his church? Well,
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let's not jump to that right
away. But let's assume that it's
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not for you know. Malevolent
reasons that they're not against
you. They just can't afford it
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right now where they just never
thought about it or maybe
they're just it's it's it's not
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on their radar screen or
something like, OK, but you have
this burden for winning souls.
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Yeah. The first thing I would
say is go in fact, I don't say
that Jesus is the Lord has
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laid on you right? And so one of
the best things you can do to
help a church grow is start
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doing the work yourself and
start being an example. And if
you start showing up to stuff
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and always having something to
share and maybe have a visitor
with you or start talking
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about how in my interaction this
week I've been giving this Bible
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say people are going to start to
notice that they're going to ask
him questions and it's going to
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start too, you know, a stir
Scripture says Love and good
works. And I love that
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imagery, by the way, from the
book of Hebrews were talks
stirring up loving, good
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works. It implies that love and
good works are in there
somewhere to try that in the
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anyone who has ever had an
encounter with Christ. It did.
And they might have a callus
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over that to s**** soft spot,
you know, but in their heart of
hearts, they know the fears
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a stirring that there's a
capacity there. There's a
longing for more. But
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sometimes those settle down to
the bottom and the love and good
works gets separated out
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like a like a good jar. Peanut
butter. You know, the healthy
stuff kind of stir it up And
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so if I were in a local church,
in fact, not if I was a local
church since that kind
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of the conference office. Choose
where to be member of church. I
was in the sine, the
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pastor to church as the pastor.
And so. Where do you go? Well, I
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wanted to place right? Be of
service. I want to be helpful
and, you know, for awhile there,
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I didn't have any local office,
by the way. Now on the person
Ministries leader for our
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local church in this at a school
teacher, too. But regardless, if
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I ever had an office where
gather given a budget or had a
title, I don't care. I'm going
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to still be working for souls in
this church help move this
church and grow it for God's
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grace, even on my own. If no one
else helps me to try and that
individual commitment this
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contagious and other people will
start to question and asking,
how can I be part of
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this, too? And what's different
about you and it will by God's
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grace, grow up into a benefit.
Wow. That's that's good. Going
back to the personal and both of
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these questions right away
addressed an issue that I'm so
glad you're here for take us a
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lot of times. Take off the tee
off from the word worker. Hend
Bible work is something all of
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us each one of us should be
involved in and it goes back to
the Fusion's, for get to
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training people so they could
find a level of comfort. Let's
talk about the fear factor.
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Okay. That's a lot of times.
Fear plays a major role on 2
levels sometimes we're fearful
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of their fear. That's great. It
then our fear of their fear has
created in their Our fear
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of their fear is greater than
their fear. >> You know, like a
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people's ala. So fear probably
comes in various forms for
different people. Some people
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might be afraid. >> That they're
going to be rejection like they
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go door to door. of the main
reason people go door to door is
because they're afraid of the
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door being slammed right Other
people might be up for it. I
think that you're right about
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that that I've had far more pop,
positive interactions, the
negative. I mean, on a
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scale of 100 to one, probably I
can think of a very few times
someone has been just
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vulgar, rude and just that
horrible to me at door. I I
guess it can happen from time
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to time. But somehow this
character is out there that if I
step forward in it's going
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to be the I honestly believe the
phantom some time. Yeah, it is
in. So there it is a
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false fear that can be
alleviated just by going out and
seeing that is not true.
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Come along with me, will go door
to door and find people are
nice. You know, it's OK,
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the pen. There's another fear
that it might be more
legitimate. It's not so much a
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fear. People saying no. I think
is a fear. People saying yes.
Would you like to study
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the Bible? You like? Absolutely.
I've been praying. Can we start
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right now? I wasn't. I was I was
geared up for the no. I was
bracing for the slammed door
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right? But I don't know to do in
someone's actually eager and
interested. And so there's a
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lack of preparation. I don't
know what I would do. I don't
know how it fit my schedule. I
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don't know what resource to use.
So that lack of familiarity and
training and preparation can
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lead to a can lead to some fears
on the moment on their own. That
can be alleviated by
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preparation in practice. And I
love this one. It kind of ties
to the spiritual gift. I'm
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afraid it's not my spiritual
gift. don't feel it's my
spiritual gift. Well, I don't
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know where we got this idea that
spiritual gifts are just the
things we're all ready
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automatically interested in or
the things we're naturally
interested in or have a
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passion for something like this.
But nowhere in scripture. Do we
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find witnessing as a spiritual
gift? Now, no sharing your faith
is not an option for
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that. Is your light shine? It's
let your light shine. It could
be part and parcel who
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you are as a follower of Jesus
Christ. And so. When people say
things like it's not my
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gift to I'm not that good at it.
All right. You that you might
not be good at it. You
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might stumble. You might not
know what to do, OK? But I would
lay this out there. If
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you are in a car crash. And your
leg were mangled and had to be
repaired and you had to
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be laid up in hospital bed and
for from while there's apparatus
and rods and Cass is
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a mess right? But over time it
starts to Hugh up in the day
comes you can start taking all
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that apparatus often. You cut
off the cast and and that the
physician comes in. So let's
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take a look at you. Well, first
of all, is that Legan look
different on the other
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one. Sure it's going to be at
your feet. Abed is going to be.
It's probably have little
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discolored. Maybe it you may be
even smelly. And so problems
with that, had that
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personal experience. You have,
you know, that area. But if you
are than to hop out of bed
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and start, I was doing some
jumping jacks or running. You
fall over said no. And that
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physical therapist is not going
to come and say, oh, it's clear
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you don't have the gift of
mobility. Of course, not love
they're going to say, well, of
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course, you're not ready to run
yet, but they're not going to
rest. And they're not going to
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say let's just schedule
amputation. No, I'm going to say
is let's start small us to some
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stretching a little bit of
flexing some weightless work on
a range of motion and they were.
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Let me put it this way being bad
at something or unfamiliar with
something is not evidence. You
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need to do it less. It's
evidence you need to do it more.
Save that one more time.
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Right? Being bad at something
are being unfamiliar with
something is not evidence. You
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need to do it less its evidence.
You need to do more now when it
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comes to sharing your faith. How
many people in our churches have
never given a Bible study.
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They've never invited someone to
their church service. They've
never gone door to door to talk
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about an upcoming meeting.
They've never sat with someone
and and walked through the
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scripture with them in lead to
those convicting moments and in
decisions for Jesus. That's
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so true. And if they ever do,
they might be squeamish. They
might be fearful. They might
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be hesitant. They might, in
fact, closing at it. And they
could look back and say off
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the I'm not prepared or I it's
not my gift. And let me tell you
something. Friends that
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snow were found in scripture
being that it's something we're
being unfamiliar is not
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evidence. Utilizes evidence. You
need to do it more. And I
believe that the Lord wants us
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to get active in our faith. And
but sister White says this, our
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capabilities will increase by
use right capabilities will
increase by as you may not be
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that good right now. But you're
next was going to be a little
better to try. And it's just
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we're doing at this idea that
spiritual things have to go from
0 to 100 and that telling notes
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from God, no, no, put it in
practice and let the Lord grow
you in his work, right? The
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Bible use the phrase that grow
by Hughes, thanks the growth of
use. Yeah. I mean, that
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example is just so clear to me
because just use a short story
with your wife came when we
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came to 3 P in 19 years ago. The
for least thing my wife ever
think to do. She's so
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good at it now better than I am.
As an audio I couldn't get it to
look at a wave file
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affect my wife's definition for
way. File we are good. But a
look at this file. My audio
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editor. That was a way file. But
now. Amazed by how God has
developed her. And once again,
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the fact that something on
familiar with, it doesn't mean
that you need to do a less
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means. You need to do it more.
That's right. And that's how the
gift has developed a.
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>> I would just look at the
camera, just maybe if you're
driving, don't don't pull off
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them if you You don't just
listen carefully. If you're not
comfortable doing it, if
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you're fearful of doing if you
don't know how to do it, that's
an indication you need
00:25:38.17\00:25:42.57
to do it more so that you can
game the skill and develop that
skill because people that
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are eventually better at what
they do because practice doesn't
00:25:47.91\00:25:53.05
make perfect. Make sure that it
and what you But it means you
have to put some action into
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that and say, OK? First time
using Photoshop. I don't have a
clue what these tools 30 years
00:25:57.85\00:26:03.73
later, 10 years, 2 Wow. Now
you're telling other people that
means it's all about training.
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But I think that what we need to
do is Christians need to get
that mindset. That what
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works in the world around them.
Hes also a play couple to
developing these Christians
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killed. It's not always just
this is your gift try to get the
gift no. What is your
00:26:19.91\00:26:24.58
interest? That is not a bad
thing. What are you interested I
to learn how to evangelism a
00:26:24.58\00:26:31.49
minute, OK, talk about that. Or
you could even say what is my
interest? I enjoy these
00:26:31.49\00:26:36.52
hobbies. Will how can they use
that in evangelism right now? So
00:26:36.52\00:26:42.13
the point is that. >> If
evangelism and that soul winning
that personal labor, whatever
00:26:42.13\00:26:46.80
you want to call it is an
expectation of every church
member, OK, well, then I have to
00:26:46.80\00:26:52.27
say, well, how it how can I go
about doing this is not an if.
How, and when. What tools
00:26:52.27\00:26:58.45
continues. Right? So now we've
taken the option of not doing it
off the table. Then how do I
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start getting engaged with it?
Well. First of all, like you
talk about practice. I don't
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know why it is. couldn't you
take us out of the afternoon and
get together with your own
00:27:08.92\00:27:13.86
people who aren't, you know,
prospective members or new
interests or or strangers down
00:27:13.86\00:27:17.03
the road and just get together
and say, let's practice, let's
iron sharpening iron. Let's
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give Bible studies to each other
right? First of all, you're
going to be blessed by
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studying the Bible, but you're
going to do it in a way that you
can prepare to share it
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with someone else and they can
give you feedback. And so I
don't know why we don't do
00:27:29.98\00:27:33.08
that kind of training in
churches and maybe there's a lot
of churches to do. But
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when Cisse, why go back to that
statement? She said every church
should be a training
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school for Christian workers. We
have to get in the mindset that
church, at least in part,
00:27:40.46\00:27:45.89
is supposed to be school, right?
I'm supposed to come to church,
not just to receive
00:27:45.89\00:27:52.37
but be trained, equipped,
inspired, resourced, whatever to
go out and share. I'm going
00:27:52.37\00:27:57.17
to be turned into a just like
Jesus said, come follow me. I'll
make you become fishers
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of men. So that when when those
disciples put down the Nets left
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the money box, right, and follow
Jesus. They were just going to
watch him work. He was going to
00:28:08.25\00:28:14.86
train them to be If you read to
the Gospel record, that's what
Jesus is doing over and over
00:28:14.86\00:28:21.00
again with its baptizing are
helping feed the 5,000 or
working with the groups.
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Whatever was he was doing, he
intentionally trained them in
it. So by the time we get to
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Luke Chapter 9, he can send them
out and give them authority over
00:28:31.07\00:28:34.94
these things. Just like he had
done. You're going to start
working these lines, too. And
00:28:34.94\00:28:39.58
that's what our churches should
be. They should be centers not
only for inspiration, but also
00:28:39.58\00:28:43.05
for practical instruction and
practice in training and
equipping. So that. As a body
00:28:43.05\00:28:50.29
of Christ, we don't have
non-functioning members reichen
00:28:50.29\00:28:56.43
body is working together and you
mentioned we would. The Bible
describes the church as body
00:28:56.43\00:29:03.14
with many moving parts. Anything
that's not working. Is
dysfunctional. right kind of
00:29:03.14\00:29:09.88
medical help in that respect.
And that is that's what the
spirit help. So you answer the
00:29:09.88\00:29:13.58
question. How does someone
overcome the fear sharing their
faith? What steps can I take to
00:29:13.58\00:29:16.45
start sharing my faith? You just
answer that are there more ways
to witness then other
00:29:16.45\00:29:21.79
than singing or preaching? What
a more specific, somewhat
specific ways people can tell
00:29:21.79\00:29:28.60
others about Christ. Let's talk
about that for just a minute.
00:29:28.60\00:29:34.90
OK, right then. I don't know. I
mean, obviously in the context
of a public, an evangelistic
00:29:34.90\00:29:39.64
series where worship service is
going to be singing. But I don't
know a lot of people who go
00:29:39.64\00:29:41.71
around just in the grocery store
or, you know that the you know,
Secretary of state's office or
00:29:41.71\00:29:46.08
something just singing bursting
out in the song or preaching a
00:29:46.08\00:29:51.22
Big Most interactions with
people are not in those formal
settings, right? So so the real
00:29:51.22\00:29:55.76
question is how can I without
having to be have all the, you
know, platform invitations in
00:29:55.76\00:30:01.53
the big, you know, structure
there. How can I be useful in
Seoul, winning and started
00:30:01.53\00:30:07.27
again spiritual traction with
people in my own experience. One
of the things we talk
00:30:07.27\00:30:12.87
about is when you talk about
preparing the soil,
transitioning from prep, 2
00:30:12.87\00:30:16.38
seed sowing, OK? A lot of times.
We like to talk about. Taking a
soil sample or sewing
00:30:16.38\00:30:25.19
test scenes. Okay. So what you
can do is if you've got an
established friendship or
00:30:25.19\00:30:31.96
you've been working on something
and it's like how a transition
from the secular to
00:30:31.96\00:30:35.10
the spiritual, how do I make
that leap and see if there's an
interest there right? You
00:30:35.10\00:30:37.37
don't go from, you know, raking
the neighbor's yard to an appeal
for her baptism. You
00:30:37.37\00:30:43.47
don't go from one nothing like
that. You start gauging their
spiritual interest and how do
00:30:43.47\00:30:47.84
you do it? Well, you just
so some tests eat, if you will,
00:30:47.84\00:30:53.95
throw out into the conversation.
Some spiritual terminologies or
if they stalk about, I mean, you
00:30:53.95\00:30:57.82
can turn it. Especially now if
you're talking about current
events, you know, war in Europe.
00:30:57.82\00:31:05.76
Pandemic fears. You can just
mentioned how you know, I agree
with you. This is it's
00:31:05.76\00:31:13.80
alarming what's going on. And
it's and staff because the Bible
actually spoke about
00:31:13.80\00:31:15.97
that. Or our pastor this week
was talk about that very thing.
And you don't have to
00:31:15.97\00:31:21.91
say like brother, are you ready
to give you're not a nice to,
you know, making an
00:31:21.91\00:31:25.55
appeal. But you're just
mentioning the flow of
conversation our church was
00:31:25.55\00:31:28.58
just talking about In fact, we
have these meetings coming up
and you're sewing seeds now.
00:31:28.58\00:31:32.69
Did you ruin the friendship if
they're not interested, though,
they're fine. But you
00:31:32.69\00:31:38.43
recognize their soil may not be
ready yet for that next step of
appeal. But I want to
00:31:38.43\00:31:43.43
keep throwing out tests eaten,
laying the groundwork for
spiritual interest being
00:31:43.43\00:31:45.97
developed over time. Now, what
might happen when they say I
heard CERN about this or work,
00:31:45.97\00:31:53.27
we've got a set of meetings
coming up in the case that tell
me that. You think that
00:31:53.27\00:31:56.91
this virus was in prophecy?
Well, the Bible talks about
that. And I'm I'm excited
00:31:56.91\00:32:02.82
about learning and myself want
to come with it. And all of a
sudden you are being a vehicle
00:32:02.82\00:32:08.19
for the very message of this
present truth and this and so if
you're looking for once,
00:32:08.19\00:32:15.23
you've established those
friendship, things and it
doesn't take 10 years to make
00:32:15.23\00:32:19.10
a front, you can do it in an
afternoon sometime sometime,
right? Right. So this idea
00:32:19.10\00:32:23.00
that like, oh, my God, I can't I
can't. So now it's too early to
know the structure.
00:32:23.00\00:32:29.28
Scripture is so beside all
water, so much anytime you have
the opportunity. If the
00:32:29.28\00:32:32.65
Lord is leading you and you have
the moment, put that in that
right. And even if they
00:32:32.65\00:32:35.85
don't respond favorably, not all
is lost. Come back and revisit
00:32:35.85\00:32:41.22
it. But you're starting to work
around that cycle towards let's
say that they. You built a
00:32:41.22\00:32:48.23
friendship of confidence by
demonstrating your Christ like
sympathy for the right. So a
00:32:48.23\00:32:52.77
little feet. And they say, you
know what, I have it. It's
interesting. You mention church.
00:32:52.77\00:32:57.87
I I used to go to church, knows
a kid. I haven't gone church and
how long it's been. You've just
00:32:57.87\00:33:06.82
notice there's an opening to
spiritual things. Is late and
something in their right to
00:33:06.82\00:33:09.58
look and you can go to the It's
like, you know, I tell you what,
which would you like
00:33:09.58\00:33:14.86
to come to church or want to
what we study the bible maybe
going to church is a little
00:33:14.86\00:33:16.93
too intimidating. But I how
about this one? I've been taking
a course of my in my
00:33:16.93\00:33:20.96
church. And they've been
challenging us to go get Bible
studies and I've never given a
00:33:20.96\00:33:26.23
Bible study to somebody. I'd
love to give one. It sounds like
you'd like to study Bible
00:33:26.23\00:33:31.27
and we stay the Bible together.
And you prepare that. And then
00:33:31.27\00:33:37.08
over time, you can start growing
because the Bible says that as
newborn babes of should desired
00:33:37.08\00:33:41.88
the pure milk of the word that
we will grow, thereby right? As
we watch that happen as we're
00:33:41.88\00:33:49.59
partners with Christ Co labors
with him, it will buoy our
spirits. It will be an
00:33:49.59\00:33:53.26
encouragement to them. And by
God's grace, they will come to
the point to say, like, you
00:33:53.26\00:33:58.20
know what I need to I need to
commit any dish, a Angeles or
that pastor or maybe you in
00:33:58.20\00:34:03.41
the small group and that person
studies going make the
invitation, they can get their
00:34:03.41\00:34:07.81
life to Jesus. But you've walked
through that process as Christ
outlined in scripture.
00:34:07.81\00:34:12.85
There's nothing more exciting.
Let's throw another one in there
sometimes people think
00:34:12.85\00:34:17.72
of it as a roadblock to 2 things
that people think of roadblocks
and just some tends
00:34:17.72\00:34:22.42
to be this paradigm ideology and
approaching evangelists. And
some people say, well, if
00:34:22.42\00:34:27.13
I only talk about Jesus will
meet on the common level. >> But
00:34:27.13\00:34:31.53
the moment I say auction a
prophecy, I might lose them.
Talk about that. >> Well, let's
00:34:31.53\00:34:36.34
talk about First of all. Jesus
is a doctrine. So means teaching
it means truth, right. And Jesus
00:34:36.34\00:34:47.58
said I am the way the truth and
the life no man comes a father,
but by me. So if we're
00:34:47.58\00:34:51.55
talking, it's like saying, I
don't want to talk Bible. I just
want to talk about Jesus.
00:34:51.55\00:34:55.69
Well, friends, these are they
which testify of me? That's
right. That's right. So
00:34:55.69\00:35:00.86
there's I don't know how it's
crept into our church
conversation, but we need to
00:35:00.86\00:35:05.17
user minds of some of these
misunderstandings that you can
somehow teach Jesus without
00:35:05.17\00:35:08.64
talking about, like I want to
teach the living the living word
without the written word.
00:35:08.64\00:35:13.44
And those 2 things aren't
supposed to be separated the
yeah. I think it came in with
00:35:13.44\00:35:17.51
his ideology because this just
boom on the back the 20 or so
years ago. But he would say we
00:35:17.51\00:35:21.85
don't teach toxins in our
church. We just talk about Jesus
and we nondenominational
00:35:21.85\00:35:25.79
whatever the top titles that are
given to that. >> You know, it
00:35:25.79\00:35:29.26
almost played on the ideology.
This is and we could talk about
this an almost played on the
00:35:29.26\00:35:34.46
ideology that if you come here,
quote, You don't have to give up
anything. You'll find just the
00:35:34.46\00:35:38.40
way you are. You know, we love
the way you are with him, but it
lead the way you are sure
00:35:38.40\00:35:44.54
this is fear of change. And I
think a lot of times people
think the moment doctrines and
00:35:44.54\00:35:47.18
to a prophecy enters. I had to
give up something and somehow
this ideology you speak to
00:35:47.18\00:35:54.02
this. Why do people tend to
think of there are any changes
that my life has to make. It's
00:35:54.02\00:35:59.42
going to go downhill rather than
a pill. I don't know where
that's another thing I
00:35:59.42\00:36:05.76
know is come into like, man, I'd
love to follow Jesus, but I want
my life to be good.
00:36:05.76\00:36:10.63
>> what's better with Jesus? The
other stuff as the bad stuff?
Jesus is the good part,
00:36:10.63\00:36:15.27
right? Right. And so it's the
same thing with doctors like
Let's say we only preach Jesus
00:36:15.27\00:36:20.18
then. My next question is, well,
what about Jesus? Well, what
does Jesus teach about
00:36:20.18\00:36:24.58
this? What is Jesus say about
prophecy? By the way, when Jesus
preached, what did he
00:36:24.58\00:36:28.32
talk about? Very opens his
mouth. talked about the time is
at hand the scriptures to
00:36:28.32\00:36:33.76
fulfill. He talks about in
prophetic Linger. Expect Desire
Bay just page to 33.
00:36:33.76\00:36:37.96
Talks about the Ministry of
Jesus and how he preached. All
right. Thus, the gospel
00:36:37.96\00:36:44.37
message has given by the savior
himself was based on the
prophecies. She writes,
00:36:44.37\00:36:48.97
you look at all the New
Testament authors, whether
she's, of course, the word
00:36:48.97\00:36:53.14
with those who profit talked
about Jesus, the Apostle Paul,
you talk about PD talk about
00:36:53.14\00:36:55.94
John, the revelator prophecy is
all part of this message right?
And so what? Let's talk
00:36:55.94\00:37:03.25
for a minute about prophecy in
Doctor. Okay. Prophecy. Let's
start with that. taunt
00:37:03.25\00:37:07.62
prophecy instead of Well, first
of all, it's the revelation of
00:37:07.62\00:37:14.03
Jesus Christ. So it reveals to
us Jesus in a way that other
things may not try a now. Why is
00:37:14.03\00:37:20.30
that? When we talk about
prophecy, we talk about
especially time prophecy. We
00:37:20.30\00:37:24.44
look at the great prophecies of
Daniel revelation. We look at
that mental image, you know,
00:37:24.44\00:37:27.41
from Babylon on down to end of
time. And we think a seven-day
having this woman familiar
00:37:27.41\00:37:32.78
with that imagery, we're just
talk about Daniel. But when
people have never had an
00:37:32.78\00:37:39.25
encounter, they've heard of
Jesus in a cultural context,
one, maybe even in a or to
00:37:39.25\00:37:45.03
contact only small-minded simple
backwards on scientific and
light. You go down the
00:37:45.03\00:37:49.00
list right? Right. But now all
of a sudden. God has
demonstrated himself as one
00:37:49.00\00:37:57.94
who can see something before it
happens. Call it out and sit
back and watch it unfold
00:37:57.94\00:38:02.74
and we think we're talking about
metal and images and, you know,
00:38:02.74\00:38:08.12
being them some peace with it.
People are realizing have never
been exposed to Bible prophecy.
00:38:08.12\00:38:12.89
That you tell me the stuff is
real. That there is a God who
can say from the beginning,
00:38:12.89\00:38:20.30
what's going to happen in the
end? I can see when they start
to see that those images an
00:38:20.30\00:38:25.10
for unveiling before their eyes,
it prophecies trustworthy, that
00:38:25.10\00:38:29.34
the signs of the times are
exactly what I see on my Google
news feet that this thing is
00:38:29.34\00:38:34.38
relevant. It's practical. And
not only is it real, the
dominoes start to then falls
00:38:34.38\00:38:38.85
like if there's a God in his
word is true. Then I'm
accountable. It. It also done
00:38:38.85\00:38:46.29
the you don't have to draw the
lines of application. Holy
Spirit is going to take that
00:38:46.29\00:38:50.53
convincing and turn it into
convicting a life that I like
that domino effect. Could it
00:38:50.53\00:38:56.13
that it's all done And we're
thinking, oh, man, they're
hearing about me to Persia and
00:38:56.13\00:39:00.44
Greece their past that. And
they're hearing about there's a
God who's alive, who's real, who
00:39:00.44\00:39:05.67
was then and will be and I'm
going to be answered. like all
00:39:05.67\00:39:09.81
of a sudden. >> There's a whole
lot going on inside of a person
that we may with familiarity.
00:39:09.81\00:39:15.08
>> Not realize the power of but
somebody is having an encounter
with the living God
00:39:15.08\00:39:19.49
through Bible prophecy,
powerful. Wonderfully said some
city. smiling about it
00:39:19.49\00:39:25.59
because the fact of the matter
is when you get into Bible
prophecy, it automatically in
00:39:25.59\00:39:32.17
a short period of time
eliminates the idea that this is
00:39:32.17\00:39:37.94
speculation. >> Absolute
eliminates the idea that God
does not exist because there's
00:39:37.94\00:39:41.61
no And when you look at Jesus,
you can separate Jesus from
doctor because Jesus didn't
00:39:41.61\00:39:47.98
separate Jesus from doctrine in
Jesus didn't separate himself
from prophecy. Well, he says and
00:39:47.98\00:39:54.22
they knew or should be teaching
in not runs the Commandments of
00:39:54.22\00:39:57.56
men. You put the commands of God
by your traditions. So heat,
heat, heat heat. He says ear
00:39:57.56\00:40:03.23
that in. So Matthew, 24 look, 16
13 office. See? Yes. To that
point. Let's talk about that
00:40:03.23\00:40:11.04
little because inside because
people say, well, that's
prophecy, but we talk about
00:40:11.04\00:40:13.04
doctrine. But if you notice one
of the key things in prophecy
when prophecy about
00:40:13.04\00:40:18.71
true thing cast down to the
ground. Yes, right. And how
babylon's fall. And now
00:40:18.71\00:40:22.58
there's truth in. There's a
message that's going up. >> So
00:40:22.58\00:40:27.09
when we preach the distinctive
understood by the 7th avenues,
churches taught by scripture,
00:40:27.09\00:40:32.03
we're not doing something
outside of prophecy, know,
actually being fulfillment of
00:40:32.03\00:40:35.93
prophecy when they're seeing
babble on fall right before
their very eyes, the confusion
00:40:35.93\00:40:41.80
falls away and the truth like a
laser beam is hitting into their
mind is reaching down to their
00:40:41.80\00:40:44.51
very arrow in their bones right?
That when we understand Jesus is
alive and well, he's coming
00:40:44.51\00:40:51.55
back soon. And by the way, it's
not going to be a secret. The 7
day by the way, is not
00:40:51.55\00:40:58.09
going to be a secret. Exactly.
Like thing like use putting all
these into your starting
00:40:58.09\00:41:02.36
to unravel some of the things
you might have seen before and
you're getting the truth as it
00:41:02.36\00:41:06.29
is in Jesus as as seen in
fulfill prophecy, you can't take
Jesus and prophecy in
00:41:06.29\00:41:14.84
doctrine and separate them is
different things. They all go
together and that's what the
00:41:14.84\00:41:17.44
Pats have. The word is written
and when it's preached in that
way, people have an encounter
00:41:17.44\00:41:21.24
with the living. God. That's
right. That's it. That's
relevant. Very relevant. And
00:41:21.24\00:41:26.08
by the way, going back to my
initial questions about
Facebook, Twitter and Sudan
00:41:26.08\00:41:32.29
snapped at all those social
platforms. They lose relevance
when. At the component, we all
00:41:32.29\00:41:38.16
live in a very real world where
tomorrow might somebody might
say on whatever news
00:41:38.16\00:41:42.56
network. What we predicted about
the stock market yesterday was
00:41:42.56\00:41:50.77
crash today. What would happen
in the world? If people were
able to know. Prediction. With
00:41:50.77\00:41:58.51
the stock market is going to be
5 years from now. Descriptions
of saying. That's less
00:41:58.51\00:42:05.89
relevant. The knowing where the
world is going to be 5 years
from That's so we're
00:42:05.89\00:42:12.59
looking at a not an
unpredictable approach.
Evangelism and I just want it
00:42:12.59\00:42:17.50
put this together as I've taken
from you. Evangelism is not an
unpredictable art. It
00:42:17.50\00:42:23.30
is the it is the gift of
revealing to people what the
Lord has already said. It's
00:42:23.30\00:42:28.28
going to happen. Yes. It's
absolutely true. And when people
see again, I'll come
00:42:28.28\00:42:33.55
back to that when they see that
because the reason we always
start with Daniel too,
00:42:33.55\00:42:36.82
but there's a reason we talk
about the signs of the end
because the answer to the
00:42:36.82\00:42:40.82
question what does the Bible say
about filling the blank really
doesn't matter if you
00:42:40.82\00:42:47.46
have an established faith in the
Bible itself. All right. But
when you start to Bible
00:42:47.46\00:42:52.23
prophecy is uniquely suited to
address the lingering question,
00:42:52.23\00:42:57.41
how do I even know this thing is
trustworthy? How do we know this
is real at all? And once you've
00:42:57.41\00:43:01.71
established the trustworthiness
of scripture from Bible
00:43:01.71\00:43:06.35
prophecy, but then you start to
see that means that Jesus was
real. That means his life was
00:43:06.35\00:43:11.49
real. His death was real. It had
something to do with me. And in
response, I need to like
00:43:11.49\00:43:16.22
all of those connective dot
start to come together. Once you
build on that framework of
00:43:16.22\00:43:21.16
this Bible is trustworthy and
I've seen it for myself by
prophecy revealed. That's
00:43:21.16\00:43:26.17
right. And it's not separating
Matthew. 24 is not incidental.
It's not just a byproduct
00:43:26.17\00:43:33.71
between 23 and 25 right. put it
there for a reason. So we as
John says. Jesus said, I've
00:43:33.71\00:43:39.05
told you these beforehand so
that when it comes to pass, he
will exact. I am he there it
00:43:39.05\00:43:43.85
is. These things happening.
Leads to you believing that I
am. He came in the word of
00:43:43.85\00:43:49.46
God, as you point out. Here's
another question that came to
us. How can a presenter keep
00:43:49.46\00:43:58.87
the members of his family
engaged in evangelism? When they
00:43:58.87\00:44:05.94
have heard the presentations
before and the children are at
the age, they don't enjoy
00:44:05.94\00:44:08.91
traveling anymore. This seems to
be the site on the travel
expense of their many home
00:44:08.91\00:44:14.78
responsibilities to pull to
spouses into different
directions that also causes
00:44:14.78\00:44:19.45
tension is him fight. The enemy
is trying to distract by
bringing in controversy. This
00:44:19.45\00:44:23.63
seems like a big picture. Then
evangelism. Yeah, there's a lot
in UK-wide sure where we're
00:44:23.63\00:44:27.23
headed there with that. But it
sounds like a church worker who
might be engaged in active
00:44:27.23\00:44:31.93
ministry is being pulled in
different directions,
interaction, that kind of thing.
00:44:31.93\00:44:35.80
But here's the question that I
think is very relevant, even
though they addressed to me. But
00:44:35.80\00:44:38.24
I want to broaden it to use
pastor. John, you mentioned how
God works in you and on you and
00:44:38.24\00:44:44.51
through you. How do you know if
it is God or yourself? They got
as leading you and God is
00:44:44.51\00:44:52.05
working in you? Kuzma on you
that I mentioned he worked on
me. He works in me. Then he
00:44:52.05\00:45:00.40
walks through me. Okay, as
pastor, how do we know that
that's happening? obviously,
00:45:00.40\00:45:04.03
if the Lord is doing something,
it needs to match up with what
00:45:04.03\00:45:09.04
he's already revealed in his
word, try, OK? So if if there's
something going in your life,
00:45:09.04\00:45:13.51
that's leading you in a
direction. But it's in variance
with his word. You can know that
00:45:13.51\00:45:16.58
that is not faith. That is
presumption. That's right. That
you're leading in the
00:45:16.58\00:45:20.55
Lord. Okay. So clearly the word
of God is given to us for just
such a thing that we
00:45:20.55\00:45:25.89
won't be tossed back and forth
by every when the doctor that
comes along right? The first
00:45:25.89\00:45:31.73
thing I ever say to anyone if
they're trying to ascertain the
will of God in the leading
00:45:31.73\00:45:35.70
of God is compare it to
scripture, right? Does anything
00:45:35.70\00:45:39.90
in your plan that you're feeling
compelled or lead to do violate
the scriptures? Is it out of
00:45:39.90\00:45:44.91
harming with guys revealed word
there. Okay. Furthermore. Will
it help the cause of God
00:45:44.91\00:45:51.11
with what I'm doing or is it?
I'm just for my own benefit. And
00:45:51.11\00:45:56.58
to be clear, not everything. You
know, I don't know where we get
this idea that the most
00:45:56.58\00:46:01.19
miserable thing must be the
thing God wants me to whatever
the lowest paying job isn't the
00:46:01.19\00:46:07.50
worst geography or whatever. I
don't think that's the case
either. So there's nothing wrong
00:46:07.50\00:46:10.47
with evaluating OK, if this is
not out of harmony with God's
word. It can be a benefit to
00:46:10.47\00:46:16.71
my family. Those things are not
necessarily, you know, at odds.
In fact, I believe that
00:46:16.71\00:46:21.78
more times than not because got
his promise to you live. How
about a life and have it
00:46:21.78\00:46:25.65
more abundantly that he wants
what's in our best interest for
us. So we shouldn't always
00:46:25.65\00:46:30.62
be second guessing. The seams 2
nights. I better not take it. is
the first of all. Does
00:46:30.62\00:46:33.96
it comport with the word of God?
If there's no contradiction with
00:46:33.96\00:46:38.66
the word of God and what you're
feeling led to believe, OK, the
night stay put for. But if it's
00:46:38.66\00:46:42.50
a call to ministry or something,
I wouldn't say sell the farm and
disco show up to the
00:46:42.50\00:46:46.67
conference office door like the
Lord has led here. I am. That's
the system. talk about
00:46:46.67\00:46:50.31
a self set man right? You want
to do is put into practice kind
of like the other thing
00:46:50.31\00:46:54.24
is just start saying, well, let
me let me start giving some
Bible studies. We start
00:46:54.24\00:46:58.81
doing some work with the church
a little bit more. Maybe
preaching sermons, maybe
00:46:58.81\00:47:02.32
take some more responsibilities
in the in the local sphere,
00:47:02.32\00:47:05.85
which I mean right now and just
start to see and build some
evidence of the lords leading is
00:47:05.85\00:47:11.33
is he going to sift through
those and start to leave me in a
certain way? is probably a lot
00:47:11.33\00:47:14.30
there when he calls me. And the
other thing I want to bring out
00:47:14.30\00:47:18.33
now that because you've actively
involved yourself one who isn't
often person ministry says have
00:47:18.33\00:47:24.01
a school as well as evangelism.
Not only in the Michigan
Conference, but talk about
00:47:24.01\00:47:28.48
growth had been a stout org and
then days evangelism frequently
00:47:28.48\00:47:32.41
asked questions. Video came into
the kind of she had some of
these that are available. I want
00:47:32.41\00:47:38.25
to direct you our viewers
several websites. Okay. At least
a couple. First of all, the
00:47:38.25\00:47:43.26
general conference at a school
in person, Ministry's Department
00:47:43.26\00:47:46.53
has a website called Grow Dot
Adventist Dot org, OK, and there
you're going to talk about what
00:47:46.53\00:47:51.80
we call the growth cycle of
evangelism all the way from
preparing the soil of heart to
00:47:51.80\00:47:57.61
sowing the seed to cultivating
to harvesting and by God's
grace, preserving the crop so
00:47:57.61\00:48:01.28
that they in turn will become
disciple makers in their own
00:48:01.28\00:48:03.91
right. So >> if you go to grow,
dot, Adventists, dot org and you
can see the picture on the
00:48:03.91\00:48:09.22
screen there is looking at that
cycle of evangelism and all the
different pieces in
00:48:09.22\00:48:12.92
phases of it and you'll find
inspiration and equipping
training resources, tools for
00:48:12.92\00:48:19.76
the different phases of the work
there says a great resource from
00:48:19.76\00:48:24.10
the General Conference that was
going person minister's
Department grow, dot, admin
00:48:24.10\00:48:27.87
That's number one. Okay. Now.
Local 7 school person, Mister
Department of Michigan,
00:48:27.87\00:48:35.78
partnered with the General
Conference to produce a video
series called Evangelism F a Q
00:48:35.78\00:48:40.55
which of fake. You means
frequently asked questions. Okay
Jim Howard, his brother Pastor
00:48:40.55\00:48:44.99
Mark Howerton myself a series of
presentations. I think there's
00:48:44.99\00:48:52.09
25, 6, 7 of them, something like
that over 2 dozen different
frequently asked questions like
00:48:52.09\00:48:56.43
some of the ones we've had on
tonight. What if witnessing is
my spiritual gift or isn't that
00:48:56.43\00:49:02.14
the pastor's job or doesn't cost
too much money are we just did
evangelism? Are we to
00:49:02.14\00:49:04.81
focus you name it. All of those
are addressed and in a simple 5
minute or less video
00:49:04.81\00:49:12.91
you can show you can learn for
yourself or share them with your
friends or even use them
00:49:12.91\00:49:18.82
in your local church contacts,
especially as you're starting to
stir up love and good
00:49:18.82\00:49:22.22
works. You could have a training
series so you can show them and
00:49:22.22\00:49:26.63
you were sub service a part of
Saturday school or a special
event outside of church service.
00:49:26.63\00:49:32.17
But those resources were put
together, not only the videos,
by the way, but also
00:49:32.17\00:49:36.04
accompanying study guides that
go with them so that you can do
training in your own church
00:49:36.04\00:49:40.11
to address those common
frequently asked questions. You
can find that series. some
00:49:40.11\00:49:44.98
point. It's going to be on the
grow site, too. But right now
you can find it at Michigan ES
00:49:44.98\00:49:49.82
S PM Dot org or says page of
Michigan S S P ES S PM DOT org
which stands for Michigan all
00:49:49.82\00:49:57.59
spelled out and then SS for
07:00PM for PERSON MINISTRIES,
Michigan S S PM DOT org and on
00:49:57.59\00:50:06.20
the resources page, you'll find
that series frequently asked
questions, Evangelism F
00:50:06.20\00:50:12.11
a Q and that's the video as the
videos and the company study
guides to go with them.
00:50:12.11\00:50:16.18
Now to bring up that graphic one
more time and grow your church
or this is a beautiful
00:50:16.18\00:50:18.25
graphic. I was just a out the
benefit of that. The U.S. if you
notice the 5 areas,
00:50:18.25\00:50:23.82
they're just touch on those 5
areas. Very quickly because I
love the growth. It's put it
00:50:23.82\00:50:28.39
together in a cycle. Yes, and
that's that that core concept of
evangelism being a full
00:50:28.39\00:50:32.79
cycle. We want to get that head
on right. So that blue icon on
top there. That's the
00:50:32.79\00:50:37.67
preparing the soil. And if you
look on the side of prepare tab
there, yeah. If you were
00:50:37.67\00:50:42.07
to click on that, it will have a
drop-down menu and it will sail
little blurb about what
00:50:42.07\00:50:46.27
that means to prepare and the
resources that you can use to,
you know, go through that
00:50:46.27\00:50:49.51
ministry in your own spear of
influence personally and your
local church and the same
00:50:49.51\00:50:54.88
thing for sowing the see the
little brown icon there or the
land Green, one for plant for
00:50:54.88\00:50:58.49
cultivating the crop with Bible
study. How do you start a Bible
study ministry? What
00:50:58.49\00:51:03.29
resources you need, what
training is available and so
every phase of the the next
00:51:03.29\00:51:08.56
one being the harvest pays the
yellow. Their public evangelism
is essential to the
00:51:08.56\00:51:13.34
work of evangelism. Obviously.
And then finally, disciple ship
training. You know,
00:51:13.34\00:51:17.97
preserving preserving the crop
because it think about the
farmer again, that even the
00:51:17.97\00:51:23.68
backyard gardener, if you have a
great crop of tomatoes and he's
I look at them. They grew
00:51:23.68\00:51:30.19
a man. Well, they're going to
rot on the vine, right? You got
to take him in. What
00:51:30.19\00:51:33.09
you're looking for is you want
seed for the next and canning
for food for yourself. The
00:51:33.09\00:51:37.29
Bible talks about how the the so
we'll have seeds for sowing and
bred for eating right. And
00:51:37.29\00:51:44.73
I'm so glad it I actually have
the website in front of me and
I'm Ted touching on the
00:51:44.73\00:51:47.64
different By the way, that
picture that you also see in the
00:51:47.64\00:51:51.34
cycle. >> Of the 5 pictures in
the grow your church circle.
Each one of those are active
00:51:51.34\00:51:56.48
leaks 2. Yes, they're very faces
beautifully put together past
are coming to Beijing as we
00:51:56.48\00:52:01.18
have 5 minutes so. Let's tell
that. Pulled us back to the
summary is evangelism still
00:52:01.18\00:52:08.32
relevant today? 100% more than
ever before. A K a we're living
00:52:08.32\00:52:13.33
in the very tail toenails of
time. You know, the very the the
the culminating event of the
00:52:13.33\00:52:17.53
world are a bit. >> Being more
and more clearly evidence all
00:52:17.53\00:52:23.77
the time. And if there was ever
a time to preach our message,
it's right now, you know, used
00:52:23.77\00:52:27.41
to I talked about this earlier,
but it used to be even in my
preaching talk the signs of
00:52:27.41\00:52:35.02
the times. You have to recommend
it. When was the last time there
00:52:35.02\00:52:37.39
is a big you know this or a
World War, friends that day is
going easier than ever before to
00:52:37.39\00:52:44.43
preach the prophecies and say
just open your eyes but look
around. In fact, many of the
00:52:44.43\00:52:48.73
people there because they're
seeing the sign, right? And
they're looking for answers
00:52:48.73\00:52:51.37
right? So people are coming.
There is a deep unsettling in
people souls as they have,
00:52:51.37\00:52:59.61
whether it's economic or
military medical, whatever the
issues are, societal issues
00:52:59.61\00:53:04.85
writ large are driving. People
think something isn't right in
the world. And this is the
00:53:04.85\00:53:10.45
prime time to strike. When the
iron is hot. They're already
thinking along those lines. We
00:53:10.45\00:53:13.92
might as well if they're asking
the questions, we might as well
get answers from God's
00:53:13.92\00:53:17.39
word, right? We don't have to
worry about what's next when the
Bible reveals what's name
00:53:17.39\00:53:22.60
in in the specificity of it is
just the evidence that the Bible
is the inspired book.
00:53:22.60\00:53:26.27
>> Linked to a living what about
those who But the second thing
is likely with audience.
00:53:26.27\00:53:32.67
First of all, the evangelism
still relevant. Second thing can
everybody Can everybody
00:53:32.67\00:53:39.21
involved? Everybody needs to get
involved. need everybody. It's
not just OK, but it's
00:53:39.21\00:53:44.12
expected. It's a it's a dire
need. We need more frontline
workers. You know, and you
00:53:44.12\00:53:48.92
know, it talks about in the
reference in First Corinthians
chapter 12 to the body of
00:53:48.92\00:53:54.46
Christ and illustrations. Always
a hand or foot or the eye. Those
00:53:54.46\00:53:56.97
are visible, prominent pieces,
but, you a couple years ago, I
had a spontaneous pneumothorax,
00:53:56.97\00:54:03.07
which is the collapsing along
just on its own. And I didn't
ever think about my long too
00:54:03.07\00:54:08.34
much until one working. And was
like, man, I need this thing to
work real quick and
00:54:08.34\00:54:13.25
they put it, you faith but a
line right through my rib cage
and expanding my long back on
00:54:13.25\00:54:17.02
boy hurt. But, you know, in
First Corinthians 12, 22 it
talks about how those pieces
00:54:17.02\00:54:24.69
of the body, those parts that
we think are weaker are actually
00:54:24.69\00:54:31.33
vital. They're the church has
plenty of evangelist and
front-line workers and paid
00:54:31.33\00:54:35.40
employees. And if God is calling
the full-time ministry, praise
the Lord, I don't want to
00:54:35.40\00:54:38.57
diminish that at all. But we
have to disabuse our mind of the
idea that if I'm not a hand foot
00:54:38.57\00:54:45.35
or we're fine, not an
evangelist, a minister or
teacher, then I'm not do friends
00:54:45.35\00:54:51.89
everyone. And that he sought
from scripture. The purpose of
having those positions in the
00:54:51.89\00:54:54.52
church is to help all of us do
our work. That is an expectation
00:54:54.52\00:55:00.70
and a privilege that every one
of us has to be Co labors with
Christ and giving this message
00:55:00.70\00:55:04.33
to the world. So that their
question to what wrap it up
should evangelism be public, a
00:55:04.33\00:55:09.37
personal or public and personal.
Yes, the question is should
eventually be personal
00:55:09.37\00:55:14.61
or public. And answer is, yes,
it should be every all points in
between. We should have
00:55:14.61\00:55:20.08
individual labors out there
winning souls, talking their
friends, building those
00:55:20.08\00:55:23.42
relationships, offering the
Bible studies inviting the
church means and we need good
00:55:23.42\00:55:28.09
public evangelists and good
quality advertisements in good
meetings that spend good money
00:55:28.09\00:55:30.56
on these things. So that all of
it when a sister wife talked
about when both are
00:55:30.56\00:55:35.80
more thorough work may be
wrought. Okay. And what I don't
think I asked during the
00:55:35.80\00:55:39.20
night, but as a possible to get
a Bible study. If you don't ask
someone to study the
00:55:39.20\00:55:45.67
Bible, I'm sure the Lord can do
something right by but not often
that you see him lift
00:55:45.67\00:55:51.58
the Philip in the Ethiopian
thing. Go take over that chariot
00:55:51.58\00:55:56.02
right? But great miracle is just
ask, just start talking to
people start stirring the pot of
00:55:56.02\00:56:01.66
interest. There and the Lord
will give opportunity if you ask
him, say Lord, I'm willing to
00:56:01.66\00:56:08.06
go. I don't think he's going to
disappoint on the other end by
giving you plenty of
00:56:08.06\00:56:10.70
opportunity. And if you ask,
people will be surprised. House
receptive. They are to
00:56:10.70\00:56:16.77
present truth. Well, I want to
let our audience and he was
known. Thank you, Pastor
00:56:16.77\00:56:19.61
Camera coming tonight and bless
you. In the Michigan Conference,
00:56:19.61\00:56:24.08
you guys are doing a tremendous
work working along not only with
the union and vandalism in
00:56:24.08\00:56:28.15
general, but the church at
margin. Thank you for the work
and your dedication to it. And
00:56:28.15\00:56:34.39
and evangelism friends is alive
and well and God is calling on
you. Come and then he says go
00:56:34.39\00:56:40.66
and don't forget, these Web
sites grow, Dot, Adventists, Dot
org, go there and click on
00:56:40.66\00:56:47.44
those tabs is evangelism
relevant. Yes, is the coming of
Jesus relevant? He more. So
00:56:47.44\00:56:53.71
yes, you can be involved when
you go in the power of Christ,
many souls will calm and the
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kingdom will be filled with
people that have found Christ.
>> Through God bless you until
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we see again. ¤ ¤
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