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want to hit the record button
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way across the board. Whether
you are a member, a pastor, what
you just got You've been in the
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church for a number of decades.
This is the ultimate call on
everyone's life. And
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you'll find out what I mean.
It's just a moment. As I
introduce my guests in just a
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moment. But I want to thank you
for your prayers and your
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worldwide ministry. As we
continue going and growing,
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awesome event of the ages. The
coming of chases 3ABN is
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programming. As our founder Good
friend of mine, Danny Shelton, a
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will counteract the counterfeit
and we are committed to
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evangelism. But tonight we're
talking about. >> Evangelism.
What is that? Is it relevant
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today want to find out and all
the answers to that. And I'm
going to let you know, my guess
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is after the song, we have some
beautiful music today. My good
friend Jamie George is going
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to bless us with a song. I know
it's going to to touch your
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Should Die. And right after
that, we'll dive into a
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powerful program. Stay with us.
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>> thank >> you so much, Jamie,
for that. Very well known song
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else. Should I a lot of our
lives. Thank you so much for
that. I think it lays the
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foundation wonderfully for what
we're talking about tonight. And
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without further ado, let me
introduce you to our guests
tonight, Pastor Cameron
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Division. Good to have you here.
Thank you so much. Good to be
here. Yes, I know. I'm just
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excited when I heard that.
You're going to be our guest
tonight. I thought, wow, I'm
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glad I was asked to host this
program because I've been
following you through the years.
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Understand your ministry have
seen caught using young,
powerful ways. But there's some
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people that are watching and
maybe listening by radio that
may not even know who you are.
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So just Yes. Just give us an
overview of you are, what you do
and it will be back on. And
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you're like, sure, I am
currently my position is the
director of Sabha school and
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personal ministries in the
Michigan Conference of 7 >> And
recently that has also
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come to include public
evangelism coordination for the
Michigan Conference. And
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so along with my associate
director Pastor Mark Howard,
who's also been here at the
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3ABN family from to time where
we the and his wife as our
secretary. Well, basically
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make the person mistress team
has responsibility for as in the
name implies Sabha school,
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which of course, is part of
every local church to try and
personal ministries, which
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should be part of every
individual members experience.
And now public evangelism. so
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basically most of what we do is
work with lay people and help
them to see that their
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job isn't just merely to be
members of the church, but to be
missionaries for Jesus
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Christ. Wow, it's like the
Ephesians 2.10, We liked by
Grace. Always safe to faith.
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It's a gift of God not of works,
but then ephesians 2.10, full.
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We are as workmanship created in
Christ. Jesus for good works
exactly when I say by good
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works. But we are safe for good
works. If that's wonderful. Now.
Let's get a little background
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Married yes, I am married to
Emily we have 3 children. Henry
Edward and Molly. Well,
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all of them just keep growing
when the 7, 9, 11 there 2 years
apart. And so we the 7,
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9.11 phase of life right now.
And it takes it's exciting.
Every day's a new day. It's
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it's frustrating. It's great for
all of our characters, but
Kerry. But we're very happy.
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Well, and thank you for your
ministry to. We've been blessed
here. 3 ABN. You've
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been here for a camp meetings
and having spoken a number of
occasions and we look forward
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to any future contacts with 3
ABN. Thank you, Pastor. Well, I
appreciate you guys in your
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ministry, too. You know, because
coming from the denominational
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side of Lake domination,
employment and supporting
ministries like 3ABN, there's
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the cooperation that that is
essential in the Lord has each
in its place. And I really
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appreciate the collaboration we
have and as pastors were in the
same union Union Lake Union,
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correct? Yes, and I'm also
because I mean Illinois,
confident, OK? All right. So in
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the same union, yes, indeed,
been here 19 years and so praise
the Lord for that. Except let me
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get back to you now because
Ellen just dive into this very
significant question because
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people say, okay, we're talking
about evangelism and we remind
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our viewers and listeners that
tonight for the second hour,
we're going to be taking
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questions. You may be a church
member that says our church does
not have evangelism. We don't
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even know what that is. We
haven't had for many, many
years. You may want to call and
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ask questions. Let me give you
that information tonight or you
may want to find out how
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you can be more involved in the
process evangelism. If you want
to send in a question by
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text, send it to 6, 1, 8,
228-3975, at 6, 1, 8, 2 to 8,
39. 75. That's how you text
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your question. But if you want
to e-mail those that's live at 3
ABN Dot TV. Now I ve at 3ABN
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OTT TV for any questions and
will take those in the second
hour. Don't don't be afraid to
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send the questions because we
just give you encouragement.
There is no such thing as a
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ridiculous question. If it
requires an answer. Very
quickly, pastor, what is
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evangelism? Well, that's it
really quickly. That's a huge
broad thing. But you look at
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the great commission, you look
at the book of Revelation, you
look at so many different
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passages of Scripture.
Evangelism. Is that work of
sharing the good news, the
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Gospel with others. So that by
God's grace, Jesus comes, we
won't be going home alone
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trying take people with us. And
so we want to be so winners. And
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that's what evangelism really is
that hope process of winning
souls giving the gospel the
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world by God's Grace, hastening
the coming of Jesus. So, yeah,
it's not just a thing. Some
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churches do or specialist might
take care of on occasion. It's
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supposed to be the driving focus
of every local church of every
conference of every individual
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member to not only be a part of
the body of Christ, but be an
active dynamic. So winner
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and his her, his or her own
right. You know, this woman put
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people think about evangelism
and think we'll have evangelist
come Help me with that. Well,
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even when you prompted just for
a second ago with those
questions, you know, people,
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people, the cape's of questions
you mentioned just kind of
euphemistically there are we
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hear a lot like we did
evangelism and the talk about 2,
3, years ago as though it
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were an event, right, or we got
an evangelist as though to
specialty and so we put those
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things together in a lot of
people have the misconception
that evangelism is a an event.
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And B, it's only done by
professionals like a pastor or
an evangelist proper when the
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reality is both of those things,
those 2 misconceptions. Probably
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a host of others to put those
particular too, are really.
Really detrimental to the work
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that the Lords called us to do
because we have to realize
number one, evangelism is not
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an event. It is a process. It is
an ongoing continuing cycle of
work that never has the
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start never has a finish now.
Public evangelism is typically
what people are thinking,
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right? When they say we did
evangelism or we're going to do
evangelist what they mean.
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Typically. On the calendar.
We're going to set a few weeks
apart and we're going to
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announce to the world that we've
got a special series of
meetings, Ryan, we by God's
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Grace. We'll see people attend
those meetings and then make
decisions for Jesus and have a
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harvest event. And all of those
elements are good. But when we
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come to think of evangelism in
its entirety is limited to just
that one idea. Well, no wonder
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we're having trouble with
evangelism these days because
that's not the way that
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scripture describes the work of.
So winning is a one off event by
specialist here and there. So we
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can get into some of that
tonight. But we were going to
trust some of those evangelism
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myths and misconceptions. I
think the Lord has good answers
for his word evangelism myths
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and misconceptions. it's really
good. It's a good way of looking
at it because there's
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some things that if you get rid
of the meth in the truth, if it
comes to the certainly
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the other thing about this. And
I think that one of the reasons
why let's talk about
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what is a minister and that's
another misconception, too,
because I many years somebody
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tell me visit came to the church
considers the minister in town.
Is that no, he's out
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of town. Sometimes people don't
see themselves as ministers
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absent. I don't I think
sometimes is is as probably
underselling it a little bit. I
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think that there's often times
that. Members see ministry as a
minister's job and it all the
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work of the church or most of it
or at least the past oral and
certainly the evangelistic
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labor of the church that is hit.
In fact, that's why we return
tides and we give to
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church budget. So quite lot of
times people think of it, quote,
unquote. That's what
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the thinking is right. And
oftentimes we think of either
foreign as mission work is
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foreign. An evangelist IQ work
is for professionals. And so the
members job must be to
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simply pray for and pay for
their good works as a very good
approach. But the reality
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is. We need we need to shift the
mind-set that every member has
to recognize that that
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great commission is for them to
try even if there wasn't a
global church, even if there
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wasn't a local church, even if
there wasn't a minister in the
picture, if I have a
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relationship with Jesus Christ,
I am not only 2 maintain it for
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myself, but I have a duty. I
have a God given burden to share
that truth with others and grow
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his kingdom. So this the we've
got deconstruct some of mental
obstacles. They're hindering
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the working on now in this
distracted world, we're living
in a society that 2030, 40
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years ago. The challenges world
quite a You know what the social
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media challenge, the mindset
that people can listen for more
than 20 minutes the fast moving
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television commercials. 4 things
on the screen at the same time.
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What's coming up? What's
playing? What's going to be next
TikTok Instagram, Twitter,
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Facebook and all the other. It.
>> Things that are out there
challenging. How do you
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maintain? I want to get to some
of these questions about the
church's focus on shared
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and isn't it? How do you
maintain evangelism in a
distracted society?
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>> Well, again, with when you
say maintain evangelism, are you
talking about maintain an
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audience for a series of
meetings? That's one aspect of
it. But what we really does
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route back into that
misconception of what evangelism
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even OK, it's OK, because I want
to start to the root of this a
little bit, OK, evangelism is
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process with multiple phases.
And Ken, too agriculture all
throughout scripture, especially
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in Christ Ministry, OK, you
know, he's always talking about
plants. Now he does mention
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fish in nets and coins here and
there. But his repeated motif
that he keeps employing
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is agriculture, U 2 seeds and
soil. And and corning grain crop
of harvest over and over.
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And the reason he's talking
about plants so much is yes, it
was an agrarian society and
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it's something related. Bull.
But there's a deeper truth in
that is that? A process akin
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to agriculture is how the Lord
intends his word to spread
throughout the So in, for
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instance, Isaiah chapter, 61 in
verse 11, he talks about how as
the soil causes, the
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things that are grown and it
took so. And as the earth
causes, the things that
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started to grow. So the Lord
will cause righteousness,
putting forth ball nations
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that there's this concept that
in the same way that a farmer so
seed and over time through
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working process gets a harvest.
The same things expected in the
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work of so many of vandalism.
And when we talk about public
evangelism, we're often times
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preaching clear straight
messages, doctrinal straight
from the Bible, calling for
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decisions, making commitments
and hopefully seeing some
baptisms to the glory of God.
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But that's only one phase. So if
if we were to extend the
metaphor a little farther? If
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you talk to a farmer and he
adjusts owed seed in his field.
Would you say he has
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now farmed? No, no, but he is
far meaning right? Right. And so
the same thing with tilling
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the soil, the same thing was
going to see the same thing with
cultivating watering
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weeding all of those difficult
things. All of that together is
farming, right? Right. In
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the same way that evangelism
starts not when the public
meetings begin in the fall of
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6 way back when we start making
friendships with people, we
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start building bridges and
building confidence in showing
sympathy for people meeting
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their needs and demonstrating
the character of Christ. And
then when we prepare the soil of
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a heart that we start to sow the
seed, which is the word of God
and we can cultivate it
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through ongoing Bible study for
preparation so that when we get
to the evangelist a
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campaign, it's actually a
harvest, right in softened
already. Exactly. And I think
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a lot of times we have
jettisoned all those essential
other components of the
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evangelism cycle. And focused
exclusively or at least
primarily on the public
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evangelist series. And we're
expecting in a few weeks time
for the soil to be prepared
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for the seed to be known for the
cultivation happen. If the
decision to call for people be
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ready for nominating committee 3
weeks. Notice it. It's just not
possible. It's not even on
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the radar and praise the Lord.
Not only is it not something
that works. It's not something
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we should be aiming for anyway.
We should have a more
comprehensive, holistic view
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of this work of evangelism, try
to help people understand what
it even entails. It's
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very, very good. Like first
Quentin Street for 6. You know,
Paul says I plan Apollo
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swatted, but God gave the
increase That's process. You're
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talking about a >> is the church
too focused on evangelism. Is
that something that could
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happen? I can. I can imagine
someone asking. >> Our church
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week or in our conference or
whatever their contacts for
churches. They let's say we just
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do so much all ever hear about
vandalism. This adventure that
we're too focused on the pages.
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First of all, if that's your
primary function, I don't know
how you can be too focused on
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it. I don't know. I don't know
that Nike ever complains about
too focused on shoes or Apple
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being too focused on iPhones and
MacBooks. You that's thing. The
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church is God's appointed agency
for the Salvation of souls. It
was established for this very
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work, right is great commission.
So to say that you guys are
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about our father's business too
much. There's no such thing
there. You could compare. So so
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when you start to think about it
that way. >> If the main thing,
the main commission we've been
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given as to give the gospel to
the world. Is there any way we
can accidently do it too much?
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No, I think most churches would
actually look if you to say what
we spend the most time on
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what we spend most money on.
Where are most of our people
focused on in our church? Is
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it, you know, sharing the gospel
is holding meetings giving
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Bible. Studies is calling for
decisions. Is it so winning
labor or is it ministry of
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important things, you know,
bullet to maintain maintenance,
all of which that's not to
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denigrate that write it's all
necessary. But is the
administration and continuance
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of programming and facilities.
Is that our number one priority
or is that supposed to be a
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vehicle for doing our number one
priority, which is giving the
gospel to the world?
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>> Well, I like the way you put
that in that comparison, Nike
iPhone, anything that
00:20:45.67\00:20:49.21
people, you know, and when we
look at the consumer market,
people are always looking for
00:20:49.21\00:20:52.75
something new. What's coming up
next was coming on and how
beautiful that would be. If we
00:20:52.75\00:20:56.69
had the same aspirations towards
Seoul. can we get next? Yeah.
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Always necks in you your past.
You know you when you look at
when you look at a visitor who
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is coming to the church are some
new person who's walked to the
door or an acquaintance or
00:21:08.26\00:21:10.93
friendship. >> You already
thinking? All right. I'm going
to test the soil where where are
00:21:10.93\00:21:16.34
they spear? Chile and what's the
next thing they need to? They
need an invitation to a to a
00:21:16.34\00:21:20.84
church services. They need a
Bible study. Did they need? Are
00:21:20.84\00:21:22.78
they ready for a commitment? You
know, and we need to start
viewing the world around us
00:21:22.78\00:21:28.52
through the lens of Christ and
his his perception of things and
say. You know, I'm not just in
00:21:28.52\00:21:35.79
church on Sabbath and then I go
about my other 6 days. I'm going
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to be a worker for Christ all
throughout my life and
evangelism becomes a lens
00:21:39.83\00:21:46.23
through which you view the world
and we need to have that. I said
of the Holy Spirit to start
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seeing the opportunities around
us as the Lord opens doors. I
didn't I mentioned earlier about
00:21:49.27\00:21:54.01
these different mediums. His
social media true. True
evangelism. Does it ignore those
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mediums that doesn't include
those me? >> Well, I wish I wish
we could just ignore. And
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throughout all the text of the
great. But that's just not the
reality. We're not going go
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and a famous bank robber was one
time interviewed by paper. They
asked this really probing
00:22:07.72\00:22:16.36
question. Why do you Rob Banks?
and his answer was simple. Well,
00:22:16.36\00:22:24.07
that's where the money is. Okay.
And I if they put it somewhere
else, I go there right? And I
00:22:24.07\00:22:29.44
don't believe that churches
should be chasing social media
presence just to be another.
00:22:29.44\00:22:32.65
You know, another noise on bank.
But if that's where the people
are, then we got to go
00:22:32.65\00:22:37.05
get it right. So if they're in
it. And so when we go to to
talking about advertising
00:22:37.05\00:22:41.86
offers for Bible study or
upcoming events are invitations
00:22:41.86\00:22:45.29
to whatever things were holding.
We need to yes, put up the
billboards into the mailers,
00:22:45.29\00:22:50.73
those kind of things. But social
media is part of that, too. But
the thing we're calling them to
00:22:50.73\00:22:56.84
is not just another like quick
little tick tock flick on the
screen. You know why we're
00:22:56.84\00:23:02.34
trying to use that and leverage
it to bring them into an
authentic. Genuine experience
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between them and the word of
God. And their creator who built
them for better than just a
00:23:07.05\00:23:14.16
passing blip on the screen. But
intentionality, yes, you've been
to Napa Valley before.
00:23:14.16\00:23:18.46
Probably, yes, okay. My life. I
lived in that area and that
message and that valley but
00:23:18.46\00:23:22.20
Northern California from that
area, you can look at the
intentionality with which the
00:23:22.20\00:23:26.74
venue to lined up. Yes. So let's
talk about the intentionality of
00:23:26.74\00:23:31.57
evangelists because a lot of
times people tell told I've even
been guilty of that. You know,
00:23:31.57\00:23:35.54
share your faith. Talk to some
of the about Christ Gibson
literature. It's like, you
00:23:35.54\00:23:42.95
know, get some seated. Just got
side 3rd in the vineyards and
just see what happens in 6
00:23:42.95\00:23:46.55
months. Talk about the
intentionality. Let us please do
Scituate tells us that
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success in any effort requires
Okay. And I'm I'm uses
referenced several times but
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people want to see things in
buzzwords and society. Organic
is one of those people love.
00:23:59.87\00:24:04.67
all just happened organically.
If you think about that means I
think that they're using
00:24:04.67\00:24:09.68
that as a substitute for
spontaneity. But if you look at
the plant, okay, and going
00:24:09.68\00:24:14.55
back to agriculture motif, the
reason it grow so well is
because of how it's organized.
00:24:14.55\00:24:21.69
It's got cellular structure and
it's got, you know, maybe you
know, there's there's that
00:24:21.69\00:24:26.26
the the photosynthesis process
and how interacts with the soil
and dirt. That's not an
00:24:26.26\00:24:30.87
accident. That's not
spontaneous. It's highly
organized to try. It leads to
00:24:30.87\00:24:34.77
organic growth in the same way.
I think that people think that.
Spirituality. Height is
00:24:34.77\00:24:42.34
spontaneous. And we'll talk
about that when we talk about
doing good deeds for others
00:24:42.34\00:24:47.22
will talk about random acts of
kindness, OK? Now I know that
not everybody's going to want
00:24:47.22\00:24:53.79
to hear this. I think we should
be kind to everyone. I think we
00:24:53.79\00:25:01.40
should But as an evangelistic
strategy, we should take out the
random. substitute with some
00:25:01.40\00:25:06.74
intentionality like if I have
a conversation with this person,
00:25:06.74\00:25:11.31
I'm trying to ascertain
something which will lead me to
the next things like what would
00:25:11.31\00:25:14.38
be the right response? How can I
draw something into this
conversation would be a
00:25:14.38\00:25:18.71
blessing to them and help them
to the next step. Right? And we
view the working of the
00:25:18.71\00:25:23.92
Gospel as a step by step
process. Much like a farmer
would view if he takes an open
00:25:23.92\00:25:30.49
field. What I have to do to
transfer this bare patch of
ground into a rich harvest. It
00:25:30.49\00:25:34.73
right. Will their steps. I can
take it. Prepare the soil of the
heart or the farmers case
00:25:34.73\00:25:39.43
is just the soil. The ground
right? And I so the right seed
and I got to. You know,
00:25:39.43\00:25:45.94
cultivated I got a wee bit water
and I got end it over time. And
then when you get a
00:25:45.94\00:25:50.98
harvest and then went to
Harvard, by the way, just
growing the vegetable, you've
00:25:50.98\00:25:53.62
got to do something with it. Got
to put it to use, right? So he's
00:25:53.62\00:25:57.22
got all of this in mind what he
sees a barren field. He's
imagining this step will lead to
00:25:57.22\00:26:01.39
this step to lead to the step.
And that's the harvest. Try when
Jesus looked people he referred
00:26:01.39\00:26:07.50
to the harvest. He looked the
harvest ready. Talk about sowing
seed in the different
00:26:07.50\00:26:12.17
conditions of the heart. She
viewed people as potential
citizens of his kingdom and
00:26:12.17\00:26:18.47
said that's the end goal. We're
going to get to how do we get
them? was a very good
00:26:18.47\00:26:23.21
point because people thought
about harvesting at a specific
time. He said you say there
00:26:23.21\00:26:27.98
yet 4 but I say the hardest. Why
that's a great harvest is look
all around. And we know
00:26:27.98\00:26:34.62
the example in the book
evangelism. I talked about this
going out into the venue
00:26:34.62\00:26:40.20
with a cart and people jumped
out of the car and went way into
the venue. She said,
00:26:40.20\00:26:42.33
wait, what about this? What
about the grapes right here
right next to the cart. And I
00:26:42.33\00:26:48.30
don't go back to what you said
initially because lot of times
people think evangelism for
00:26:48.30\00:26:52.41
the professionals and missionary
for only overseas. That's right.
00:26:52.41\00:26:57.58
So when missionaries come back,
we say, well, you know, when to
wherever we went to whatever
00:26:57.58\00:26:59.65
the country I want highlight any
particular country. But you hit
a nerve. When you said
00:26:59.65\00:27:04.79
we think of missions overseas.
To me as an American as a person
living here in North
00:27:04.79\00:27:11.53
America. This to me is one of
the largest mission field.
Absolutely. Because you either
00:27:11.53\00:27:17.40
a missionary for a part of the
mission field. That's so true.
So so that's advantage of. So
00:27:17.40\00:27:22.57
so when you talk about that, do
you motivate them by? >> How do
00:27:22.57\00:27:27.11
you most that? How do you
motivate them? Make them feel
Guild? What do you do to
00:27:27.11\00:27:32.11
motivate members to witness?
Well, let's say, first of all, I
don't want to guilt anybody
00:27:32.11\00:27:35.02
about anything, but if there is
a feeling of guilt and it's if
you know, you're supposed to be
00:27:35.02\00:27:38.19
doing something and you're
not doing it. >> I'm not kill to
00:27:38.19\00:27:42.42
you. The Holy Spirit might be
part of a heart and moving you
along and and I'm not going to
00:27:42.42\00:27:44.99
interfere with that. And I don't
want it. I don't want to add to
anyone's bad feelings. But the
00:27:44.99\00:27:48.90
same time if the Holy Spirit is
pricking your heart, I don't
want to soften that blow
00:27:48.90\00:27:52.53
and make someone not feel. So I
just want to lay out. Here's
what the Lord has said in his
00:27:52.53\00:27:57.21
word. And if we're doing what we
should be doing, praise look
kuz. then just once
00:27:57.21\00:28:02.78
rightly said, there's a direct
correlation between feeling
guilty and being guilty, OK, I
00:28:02.78\00:28:10.25
like a so. So if you're feeling
guilty about something, if
00:28:10.25\00:28:12.12
you're reading through God's
word and you're not keeping the
Sabbath is you should you're not
00:28:12.12\00:28:16.09
being whatever the thing is
right. You don't necessarily
need some outside of you.
00:28:16.09\00:28:21.80
Explain it. It's self evidently
clear between you and the holy
Spirit. You know this on that.
00:28:21.80\00:28:25.47
And when we talk about the work
of evangelism, when we get into
scripture, start to
00:28:25.47\00:28:27.50
see. Just all the examples in
all the encouragement and
counsel and instruction we've
00:28:27.50\00:28:33.58
been given about it to not be
about our father's business when
we know that's what he
00:28:33.58\00:28:38.35
wants us to be doing, comes with
a certain amount of guilt. But
00:28:38.35\00:28:41.65
your question is, how do we so I
want to wag the finger toe the
guilt. That's between you and
00:28:41.65\00:28:47.89
the Lord, right? Right. But I do
think that we can do some things
to help people see the blessings
00:28:47.89\00:28:53.80
of service for God, the
requirement of service for God
and the people's capacity for
00:28:53.80\00:28:59.40
service forgot. I think there's
a and a good number of people
out there who may not
00:28:59.40\00:29:02.74
even recognize they can do
anything. And so what am I
supposed to do, right? So, for
00:29:02.74\00:29:09.28
example, in Sabha school time
like to talk about, we've got to
put, by the way, mission
00:29:09.28\00:29:12.65
back in Sabha school. A lot
schools jump straight to this
study of this lesson. Praise
00:29:12.65\00:29:19.75
the Lord. It's always going to
be the big rock in the jar, but
we need a laser-like focus
00:29:19.75\00:29:22.79
on mission right. And if you
think about it like a funnel,
there's a global mission. What
00:29:22.79\00:29:27.66
they're doing over there.
There's the local mission of the
local church, a local
00:29:27.66\00:29:32.13
conference. And that's what
we're doing around here. And
there's that personal mission
00:29:32.13\00:29:35.70
of what am I doing here in my
son to me kind of thing. And so
as you start to be inspired
00:29:35.70\00:29:41.48
by the stories of the foreign
missionaries, you can
participate in some of the
00:29:41.48\00:29:46.78
corporate activities. The new
realizing that men, it's not
just for them and it's not
00:29:46.78\00:29:50.15
even just for us. Have a calling
on my life from the Lord himself
00:29:50.15\00:29:57.39
a burden he's laid on me to lead
souls into this precious
message. So that since comes
00:29:57.39\00:30:01.23
from the Lord, when you're in
the work, when you see it from
scripture, spite of those
00:30:01.23\00:30:05.63
testimonies, there's going to be
a natural, hopefully not guilt
but may be a motivating factor
00:30:05.63\00:30:11.11
to get out to participate in the
mission. But I want to come some
of significant question ship. It
00:30:11.11\00:30:15.68
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00:30:30.63\00:30:36.60
is what I've been waiting for. I
want to get involved. I want to
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00:30:36.60\00:30:41.44
learned involvement is something
that it's kind of like riding a
00:30:41.44\00:30:46.64
wave. If the if the Lourdes
impress you like past 2 just
said don't quiet that and you
00:30:46.64\00:30:50.88
might even be feeling well, I
need to do more. The law does
impress you to do that. We want
00:30:50.88\00:30:56.02
to just be able to answer some
of those questions. That may be
a roadblock or hindrance to
00:30:56.02\00:30:59.95
taking you to the ultimate level
that God has feel got as a God
has a plan for all of
00:30:59.95\00:31:05.29
our lives. And, you know, he
says that John tend to John, 10,
10, I've come to you might
00:31:05.29\00:31:09.26
have life and have more
abundantly. Fit evangelism into
that because I've said to
00:31:09.26\00:31:14.30
people before I want to take the
thunder here, but you'll be able
to build on this and
00:31:14.30\00:31:18.84
once you leave one person to
Christ and your life will never
be the same again. Talk
00:31:18.84\00:31:23.45
about that. Yeah. What you see
that person comes from.
Beginning to all that is was
00:31:23.45\00:31:27.88
like it does something to you.
It should do something to you.
If you're part your your co
00:31:27.88\00:31:32.95
labor with Jesus Christ. I know
he's the one who said we've been
given this Ministry
00:31:32.95\00:31:37.63
of Reconciliation that we Udders
for Christ and it's one thing
like you said to see it
00:31:37.63\00:31:42.66
on paper or even hear sermon
about it or even hear someone
else's testimony about it. But
00:31:42.66\00:31:47.14
when you're in the work yourself
and you see the results of the
00:31:47.14\00:31:50.17
labor and you can see the
working of the Holy Spirit in
someone else's life. It does
00:31:50.17\00:31:54.74
something for you. We know it
stirs life in you and there's
there's nothing so exciting as
00:31:54.74\00:32:00.05
your own story to tell. Right.
And so when. With someone else,
when someone comes into the
00:32:00.05\00:32:08.32
knowledge of the word of God and
the love for Jesus and takes a
stand for the truth.
00:32:08.32\00:32:12.39
And you've been a contributor to
that. Now there's that one test
move that person. But you
00:32:12.39\00:32:18.33
got a testimony to share too. So
you're excited about them.
You're excited with the Lord's
00:32:18.33\00:32:23.41
doing you and you can't wait to
get the next one. And so
evangelism has to be woven
00:32:23.41\00:32:29.18
into our lifestyle has to be
part of part and parcel of what
00:32:29.18\00:32:32.28
it means to be a Christian. If
we're going to be if we're going
to take that name of Christ, we
00:32:32.28\00:32:37.39
better be about the work of
Christ because we're like you
and winter before we were built
00:32:37.39\00:32:43.69
for good works that exactly.
What got to list is for called
00:32:43.69\00:32:47.96
going back to the intentionality
of evangelism let's talk about
it. There's a question here and
00:32:47.96\00:32:53.17
that ought to be out what about
people that say? Well, how much?
His evangelism going to cost
00:32:53.17\00:33:03.45
only just all right. I know a a
how much, you know, people
people put about this when you
00:33:03.45\00:33:08.52
might say it. It's too
expensive. Okay? I because that
that the sweet ways like no one
00:33:08.52\00:33:16.86
of the budget implications of
this new probe, what they're
really saying is, do we have to
00:33:16.86\00:33:19.23
spend this much money? There's
one way to look at, say of
inches and is free. Just you go
00:33:19.23\00:33:28.34
share your faith and that's what
and there's an element that even
if you had no money, no church
00:33:28.34\00:33:33.68
support, no nothing. You can
still go when sold right? Having
said that. The reason
00:33:33.68\00:33:39.78
we do have a corporate body of
crisis to do more than we could
if we were just on our
00:33:39.78\00:33:43.79
own. And so when we collaborate
together, there's a reason we
00:33:43.79\00:33:46.99
take up combined budget in the
local church and it's not just
to keep a collection is not to
00:33:46.99\00:33:52.73
maintain a nice bank accounts
were safe from a it's to be put
to use, right. So what is the
00:33:52.73\00:33:59.17
purpose of funs in the local
church once we pay off our
minimum necessity for the bills
00:33:59.17\00:34:03.57
in the, know, all the utilities
and what not. What is the church
All right. Well, as to
00:34:03.57\00:34:09.34
when souls that right. So if you
look at your church budget and
you realize, you know,
00:34:09.34\00:34:14.42
only 5% is actually going to do
like to go back to Nike again,
if only 5% was going
00:34:14.42\00:34:20.56
into a peril someone would have
to be called answer for it
right. And if we go to the
00:34:20.56\00:34:25.16
local church, what is it? We
spend our money on. Why do we
collect offerings? Why do we
00:34:25.16\00:34:30.87
hold events? Why do we do
anything? Well, those events are
going to cost, especially
00:34:30.87\00:34:35.10
if you look into advertising and
preparation. If you want to rent
00:34:35.10\00:34:38.97
a hall. So for instance, let's
take one handbills. Let's say
you want to mail out some handle
00:34:38.97\00:34:46.38
flyers to do some social media
advertising. Well, you can pay
some money for And people say,
00:34:46.38\00:34:52.29
well, we're only getting one
person to come to the meeting
for every 1000. So it's too
00:34:52.29\00:34:55.92
expensive. Let's cut back. But
my thing is, wait a minute. So
that means we need to invest
00:34:55.92\00:35:02.03
more. Let's get that up to to
listen now to 1000. Next time we
get a second person a day
00:35:02.03\00:35:06.67
so we can look at the cost say
it's too expensive. And I'm
saying regardless of the cost,
00:35:06.67\00:35:11.31
it's a duty we have to do so. If
again, if Nike found out that
this is how much you
00:35:11.31\00:35:19.05
know, shoelaces Costa, whatever
we got to do it because that's
00:35:19.05\00:35:21.75
where that's our mission
statement. That's what we're all
about. Okay. So so my intention
00:35:21.75\00:35:26.62
for the question and the kind of
threw it in a side question in
there about the evangelism comes
00:35:26.62\00:35:35.10
with a heavy costs. Yes,
something in Matthew 16, 24
because a lot of time does the
00:35:35.10\00:35:40.57
difference between a person
saying him him or herself as a
member? was a Now membership.
00:35:40.57\00:35:46.51
Is a mandatory thing. You join
the church to remember that
disciple ship is optional. If
00:35:46.51\00:35:52.45
anyone will be my disciple. I
think that and just so you talk
to this. Would it make a
00:35:52.45\00:35:59.52
difference? A person sees him or
herself as a disciple rather
just the church member
00:35:59.52\00:36:03.66
with it. But it changed their
attitude toward evangelism. I I
would have to imagine it
00:36:03.66\00:36:08.40
would. I think it's a it's a
challenging thing to say. You
can be a member but not a
00:36:08.40\00:36:15.80
disciple. Because by definition,
that's what we've been called to
00:36:15.80\00:36:22.88
do is go and make disciples
collecting members on paper or
even in the pews. That's not a
00:36:22.88\00:36:30.55
disciple of cipel. By
definition. As you're saying,
someone who chooses to follow
00:36:30.55\00:36:33.56
Jesus and it's going to cost
something right. You you have to
00:36:33.56\00:36:38.29
deny yourself and everything,
right. You and you're going to
not yourself take across part
00:36:38.29\00:36:42.03
it's I talked about there being
a large. She said it is evident
that all the sermons preached
00:36:42.03\00:36:48.47
have not produced a large class
of self denying workers. And
that's what a disciple is a new
00:36:48.47\00:36:54.01
look and cheeses. He denied
himself and he went to work and
then he says you can follow me
00:36:54.01\00:36:59.78
and I'll make you fishers of
men. The implication all make
you like me right? And so if
00:36:59.78\00:37:07.19
we're truly following Jesus as
the book of revelations as
following the land where ever
00:37:07.19\00:37:12.63
he going to go and he goes out
on mission work. How in the
world can we be a member of
00:37:12.63\00:37:15.93
the body of Christ? We're not
doing the work of Christ. Try
Santa so I would love to see
00:37:15.93\00:37:20.20
the gap. 2 nonexistence between
membership and disciple ship,
00:37:20.20\00:37:28.64
right. I love to see those terms
become synonymous in the 7 Devon
District that if you're a
00:37:28.64\00:37:32.25
member, that means your about
your father's business. You
understand what you're called
00:37:32.25\00:37:36.69
to do. You're doing it
diligently and faithfully. And
that is a 5th. That's a
00:37:36.69\00:37:41.19
mindset. I think that we have to
break is that there shouldn't be
00:37:41.19\00:37:44.56
a gap between membership in
disciple ship. We should all
simply be disciples of Jesus who
00:37:44.56\00:37:48.20
happen to be members of this
nomination, a body, you know,
sitting here thinking of the
00:37:48.20\00:37:51.83
way to merge those 2 words, you
know, D I S C and the N B this
sounded it. Although it
00:37:51.83\00:38:00.08
does start a you know that. it
is true. I think that a lot of
times this this comfort to
00:38:00.08\00:38:07.38
becoming a the excitement of the
Day Baptist, company covered up
00:38:07.38\00:38:11.12
becoming a member and not diving
into. Going to the next level,
finding out how I could be of
00:38:11.12\00:38:18.39
service and in a particular
local church. Well, and I would
if I may win it, people come to
00:38:18.39\00:38:21.86
the church. If you've ever met a
new 7 damaged O or maybe even
been But you know, those people
00:38:21.86\00:38:28.87
who've been for 6 weeks, they
just hawking excited. They're
trying to faith there over the
00:38:28.87\00:38:33.41
place right? People come up to
then work at the water cooler
and they want to talk about
00:38:33.41\00:38:37.51
the game. They like get the
game. Let me talk about the mark
of the beast in the
00:38:37.51\00:38:40.08
Sunday. Whatever the thing is
right. And maybe have to contain
00:38:40.08\00:38:45.55
that may be at the heart But
that's praise. The Lord that
desire is there. 6 months later.
00:38:45.55\00:38:50.19
There's there's still interest
in the good but gift kind of
calm down a little bit. 6 years
00:38:50.19\00:38:55.66
later. If they're still there at
all. They've learned. To be just
another member. This one even
00:38:55.66\00:39:03.20
talks about how she says if
members. Trained or taught at to
be useless, inefficient
00:39:03.20\00:39:12.88
members And that's how such a
harsh thing, but then and on
issues that they have to be
00:39:12.88\00:39:16.79
taught that good to be trained
to do that. It doesn't come
naturally to the. someone who
00:39:16.79\00:39:24.89
is new in their walk with
Christ. They just made that
commitment. Your your first
00:39:24.89\00:39:29.93
impulse is to go share with
someone else. Look at the woman
at the well, look at
00:39:29.93\00:39:33.84
anyone who's had a genuine
encounter with Jesus in. The
first thing they're doing is
00:39:33.84\00:39:37.24
telling people, in fact, there
were times Jesus told people now
don't mention who did.
00:39:37.24\00:39:39.91
They couldn't shut up but they
couldn't stop. We've got to
we've got to help people
00:39:39.91\00:39:47.05
understand, especially in those
earliest days. Put to use that
zeal for God and to
00:39:47.05\00:39:52.02
harness it for his glory. And so
we need to do more disciple ship
training after Baptist
00:39:52.02\00:39:59.09
because baptism shouldn't be the
ultimate goal disciple ship. You
00:39:59.09\00:40:05.40
know, taking that love of Christ
is sharing with someone else and
continuing that cycle. That's
00:40:05.40\00:40:08.00
where we've got to be a me I
want to I want to kind of dive
into the media side of the bench
00:40:08.00\00:40:12.27
isn't just a moment, let's
include some scriptures hid data
may come to your mind about.
00:40:12.27\00:40:19.11
Ways that evangelism. Has
propagated in and proliferated
throughout scripture. We know
00:40:19.11\00:40:26.92
some phenomenal stories I
mentioned before. You know, Paul
says I planted Alice,
00:40:26.92\00:40:33.90
what God gave the increase and
you have the Matthew 20
commission goal. And then, you
00:40:33.90\00:40:37.47
know, Shelton offices did 2
things in the works, come up to
me and then type of all
00:40:37.47\00:40:42.10
nations was the 2 words that
really come out. But sometimes
we take evangelism. Talk about
00:40:42.10\00:40:47.28
the tools now. Okay. Now and
remind our viewers, we're
looking for your questions in
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the second hour given
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3 ABN DOT TV live at TV. What I
want to get into is the
relevance of advertising, OK?
00:41:02.52\00:41:13.17
Because advertising. We have to
recognize and I know, you know,
as pastors are on the
00:41:13.17\00:41:19.51
frontline and as you can you
know, one of my functions here
not only pastor the church,
00:41:19.51\00:41:24.91
but director of the World
evangelism, OK? So you have to
kind of keep in mind. The the
00:41:24.91\00:41:31.25
the the Fisher heaters
efficient. On one side. The Lord
says the fish out there
00:41:31.25\00:41:37.83
put you on the wrong side of the
boat. How do we become? How do
we design our bait? For
00:41:37.83\00:41:46.10
this society, something we can
ignore. I think that there are
to go back to your point. You
00:41:46.10\00:41:53.44
know, if if social media is
where people at, I think we've
got to meet them on the media
00:41:53.44\00:41:57.78
where they are, I get that. So
if they're driving by put up a
billboard, if they're looking
00:41:57.78\00:42:02.22
at yard signs, look at yard
signs, bumper stickers, you
know, those kind of things are
00:42:02.22\00:42:04.29
out there. But I would push back
a little bit and say that this
00:42:04.29\00:42:10.99
generation needs something that
a previous generation didn't.
For instance, will have people
00:42:10.99\00:42:14.20
say, why are we always taking
prophetic images and like the
beasts there, too. Scary,
00:42:14.20\00:42:19.77
Well. For the first of all, like
the that imagery. No, there
wasn't a committee at a
00:42:19.77\00:42:27.58
church board somewhere said, you
know what? We need pictures of
00:42:27.58\00:42:31.78
beasts. We know. Where did those
images come? They come from the
word itself, right? Right. And
00:42:31.78\00:42:36.35
end. You look at the properties
of Daniel and revelation and
you're going to see those
00:42:36.35\00:42:39.02
things. And by the way, those
are the very parts of scripture
00:42:39.02\00:42:45.03
that most churches aren't
talking about, OK, and so there
they know what's in there. Yeah,
00:42:45.03\00:42:49.13
there's that last book of the
Bible that no one ever opens
because I mean, can you believe
00:42:49.13\00:42:52.27
there? There are people who
believe that to seal book,
right? You can't understand we
00:42:52.27\00:42:56.40
should that somehow God put in
his word something called the
revelation of Jesus Christ and
00:42:56.40\00:43:02.61
then close it up and said, oh,
look, of course, not right. But
there are people, you
00:43:02.61\00:43:08.25
know, you've heard of the mark
of the beast. You hear these
images. You hear that these
00:43:08.25\00:43:10.79
bases, it different, whatever
elements that Battle of
Armageddon, you name it. Well,
00:43:10.79\00:43:17.06
that imagery was put there not
by the church into the Bible. It
was God who inspired that.
00:43:17.06\00:43:22.60
And clearly it stirs something
in people's I hope that I'll be
able to come up with in a
00:43:22.60\00:43:28.14
second, but this is a it's just
wake Some fascinating council.
00:43:28.14\00:43:35.48
You'll find it. Manuscript
release is Volume 19 O K, She
talks about how. These messages,
00:43:35.48\00:43:41.75
you know, that were given to
especially in time messages of
Daniel Revelation, John, on
00:43:41.75\00:43:43.92
Patmos. She said. They contain
messages that will stir the
people that right in ways that
00:43:43.92\00:43:51.39
other with the she says the
messages that are preached by
most a preachers of other
00:43:51.39\00:43:55.33
denominations will not move them
right. But this is arresting
00:43:55.33\00:44:00.67
people's attention and you can
bear that out. We've had decades
now. Different varieties of
00:44:00.67\00:44:04.61
let's try something more more
wind. Some or let starling less
alarming. Let's OK, well,
00:44:04.61\00:44:13.58
friendship eventually whatever.
And by the way, I'm a big fan of
00:44:13.58\00:44:16.58
being friendly, right and
friendship leading to a bench. I
get that. But when it comes to
00:44:16.58\00:44:22.16
preaching the distinctive
messages, if we just say the
same thing, every other
00:44:22.16\00:44:26.06
denominations saying then why
are we even holding the meeting
right? But God has a present
00:44:26.06\00:44:31.90
truth message. Those precious 3
angels messages and all attached
to them that we have a
00:44:31.90\00:44:37.14
responsibility to share with the
world in the images in the
advertising for it. As we've
00:44:37.14\00:44:42.61
been talking about here is
derived directly from the word
out for. And so if God thought
00:44:42.61\00:44:45.98
it was wise enough to put it in
there, I'm not going to try to
out think God and say, well, I
00:44:45.98\00:44:51.12
think on this one all truck
Hughes, what he's given and see
how he blesses. Thank you for
00:44:51.12\00:44:54.66
bringing that point up because a
lot of times people think, well,
this generation doesn't need
00:44:54.66\00:44:58.93
those images God is way, way
ahead of all of us. And he put
them there for a particular
00:44:58.93\00:45:08.00
purpose. Absolute. I mean, if
you knew that a storm was
coming, you didn't tell anyone
00:45:08.00\00:45:11.97
that's able to meet you. The
meteorologists you knew that
this ferocious storms on the
00:45:11.97\00:45:16.44
way and you didn't tell anybody
because he didn't want to alarm
00:45:16.44\00:45:20.18
This ideology. And you speak to
this in a moment evangelism has
a number of functions. I think
00:45:20.18\00:45:26.76
one has to wake us up. Second is
to get a stop. And the 3rd one
is, as I've said, Cod works on
00:45:26.76\00:45:36.23
you that he works in you that he
works through So this world
needs to be awaken. And I
00:45:36.23\00:45:41.97
believe that revelation is the
book that awakens them. That's
why now we talk about these
00:45:41.97\00:45:45.17
images. Thank you for bringing
that out to the from forefront
because people say, you know,
00:45:45.17\00:45:49.84
when you see these bees in these
marks. That is in fact, what
tells them we need to go
00:45:49.84\00:45:55.82
in a different direction in the
world is actually leading them
to going. Yes. so the
00:45:55.82\00:46:01.52
advertising is not irrelevant,
but it's derived from cars were
absolutely in. So me in
00:46:01.52\00:46:05.36
people have tried other things.
But it doesn't bring out people
00:46:05.36\00:46:12.40
as much as those cutting present
truth, relevant messages, right?
It's the same way the signs of
00:46:12.40\00:46:14.74
the times are put in the
scriptures. You know, it used to
be difficult to preach the
00:46:14.74\00:46:18.64
signs of the times like, oh,
what about certain elements with
right now if you or get
00:46:18.64\00:46:24.51
up somewhere, talk about wars
and rumors of wars gay people's
00:46:24.51\00:46:27.82
attention or how about
pestilences people would be
tuned in. Right and God knew
00:46:27.82\00:46:34.82
ahead of time. He put it there
as the thing to beat. This is to
be relevant in the letter last
00:46:34.82\00:46:38.19
days of history. So for us to
turn our back on the very thing
you gave us for just such a time
00:46:38.19\00:46:41.46
as this would be folly. Pastor
Division, here's another one
because evangelism, we tend to
00:46:41.46\00:46:48.24
limit evangelists. And I want
talk about broadening
evangelism. >> Because there's
00:46:48.24\00:46:52.61
this misconception that people
that are very well off people
that have good means people that
00:46:52.61\00:46:54.98
the wealthy really don't pay
attention to evangelism or it's
not relevant to them.
00:46:54.98\00:47:01.68
Talk about how relevant and how
much more there sometimes need
for that in in the upper
00:47:01.68\00:47:06.15
echelon communities. something
just MOMA. >> I think it's even
00:47:06.15\00:47:10.66
the dialogue we're having right
We seem to categorize people,
it's like, well, you know how
00:47:10.66\00:47:16.00
young people are they different
approach you rich people are
00:47:16.00\00:47:19.87
they need a different Can you
know how poor? But they have a
different we need a different
00:47:19.87\00:47:23.51
message in a different method.
Not know if you notice something
00:47:23.51\00:47:28.38
in crisis story of the the
parable of the Sower, right,
right. He didn't have a
00:47:28.38\00:47:35.18
different so with a different
technique with a different bag,
a seat for each different type
00:47:35.18\00:47:38.39
of soil. But he had same sower,
same technique in the same seat.
But they were vastly different
00:47:38.39\00:47:43.59
outcomes. That right. The
difference that was the
difference in the outcome. Was
00:47:43.59\00:47:51.57
the condition of the soil
itself, which is a
representation of the heart
00:47:51.57\00:47:56.60
rate. And so whether you're
young or old, rich or poor, you
know, whatever your socio,
00:47:56.60\00:48:01.38
economic, racial, whatever your
background thing is. The one
thing you have in common is that
00:48:01.38\00:48:05.85
Christ method alone will bring
true success. That right. And
that means we need to walk
00:48:05.85\00:48:10.95
through. I don't think we've
done this year. So if you allow
me for just a minute, those
00:48:10.95\00:48:13.52
stats cycle evangelism. It
starts with Preparing the soil
of the heart. Okay. If you look
00:48:13.52\00:48:22.96
at the parable of the Sower we
just referenced, let's go to
that. Let's look 13 or let's
00:48:22.96\00:48:29.27
go to Matthew 30. We go to them
which one you would have what I
was headed for. Luke,
00:48:29.27\00:48:31.34
if want to go to Matthew, OK,
let's since you're the guest
that will go. Let's go to
00:48:31.34\00:48:34.54
live. I appreciate that. Thank
you very much. But it looked
after 8 starts in verse 4. He
00:48:34.54\00:48:43.32
says in verse for the spoke by a
parable and it says Verse So I
went out to so his seat and
00:48:43.32\00:48:48.79
as he sowed some fell by the
wayside and was trampled down.
And the bird to that aired
00:48:48.79\00:48:53.29
about it, some felon Rock. And
as soon as this spring up with a
way because it lacked
00:48:53.29\00:48:56.70
moisture and some fall among
foreigners in the foreign spring
up with it and choked
00:48:56.70\00:49:00.37
it. But others felon, good
ground. Spring up a new little
crop, a hundredfold and that's
00:49:00.37\00:49:04.97
essentially the into the parable
when he goes on to explain it
00:49:04.97\00:49:10.38
just a few verses later, 11
ISIS. Now the parable is this.
Now we should pay attention. Not
00:49:10.38\00:49:14.75
only the parables because
they're inherently good, but
when Christ Deciphers them and
00:49:14.75\00:49:18.02
says it is this, this is what it
is, what it is. The seed is the
word of God. Wow. So I
00:49:18.02\00:49:24.83
hear people say, no, we don't.
We just loved him in church or
they love music. That's great
00:49:24.83\00:49:28.60
for music is great for
fellowship, but everyone who
comes to knowledge of Jesus
00:49:28.60\00:49:34.77
Christ is one through the word
of God and Bible study where
that's public evangelist
00:49:34.77\00:49:39.77
preaching whether you're
watching on YouTube ever. But
00:49:39.77\00:49:45.08
you have to have. Confrontation,
if you will, with your. You are
sinful fallen self and the word
00:49:45.08\00:49:52.12
of God and be transformed into
his image like that. The word of
God is that seed the that
00:49:52.12\00:49:58.46
produces all the growth that's
going to come later. Powerful.
you know, the point you just
00:49:58.46\00:50:03.67
made, it won't just piggybacking
ate it is hate. Music is very
00:50:03.67\00:50:09.14
powerful and relevant
friendship. Evangelism, very
powerful and relevant, vital.
00:50:09.14\00:50:11.77
But you're not going to get. The
life that you're living. You
can't ignore. The. The living to
00:50:11.77\00:50:22.52
get it to have a relationship of
the living word. You cannot
ignore our relationship with
00:50:22.52\00:50:28.46
the written word. That's right.
OK, and by by holding to become
00:50:28.46\00:50:32.49
changed, right to look at this
word. See Jesus. So he says the
parables that the seat not
00:50:32.49\00:50:36.50
right. Verse 12, then those by
the wayside want to hear them.
The devil comes and takes away
00:50:36.50\00:50:41.37
the word out of their hearts
less they should believe in be
So they only here, but there's
00:50:41.37\00:50:46.01
no roof. No application is
essentially in one ear out the
next first 13. But the ones on
00:50:46.01\00:50:51.11
the rocks are those. When they
hear received the word with
Joyce right. And these have no
00:50:51.11\00:50:58.05
route who believe for a while.
And in time of temptation fall
away. So they have an I'm
00:50:58.05\00:51:01.72
excited. It's great. It's
exciting. And that's not to
discredit that. But it didn't go
00:51:01.72\00:51:05.99
anywhere else. And it when tough
times came out too verse 14. Now
the ones that fell among foreign
00:51:05.99\00:51:13.23
to those who when they heard go
out choked with cares, riches
and pleasures of life
00:51:13.23\00:51:17.41
and bring no fruit to maturity.
Not passing on the koam notice.
00:51:17.41\00:51:24.05
That's now the first ones didn't
have any route. Second once had
some route. But with the way,
00:51:24.05\00:51:26.08
hard times the next one.
Apparently had route, but no
fruit, right? So they? I would
00:51:26.08\00:51:34.12
dare say. But these folks are
members of the church in many
and look at all the categories
00:51:34.12\00:51:40.06
that challenge. But you notice
the one thing they're not doing
00:51:40.06\00:51:43.43
as being fruitful, they're not
being useful. Not doing anything
else to just exist. So I grew to
00:51:43.43\00:51:48.24
maturity, right? Very good. But
the ones first 15 that fell on
the good ground are those who
00:51:48.24\00:51:53.14
haven't heard the word with a
noble and good heart. So notice
the parallel, the condition, the
00:51:53.14\00:51:57.58
soil of the ground is the is the
condition of the heart rate.
Keep it and bear fruit
00:51:57.58\00:52:04.92
with patients. Now, roll out a
couple of lessons from this if
we could for just a moment.
00:52:04.92\00:52:08.99
Sure. First of all. People might
say, well, why don't get a lot
of return when I try to
00:52:08.99\00:52:14.13
get Bible study is not a lot of
people are interested. We
Angeles means not many people
00:52:14.13\00:52:17.17
came out. Look at what she
says is staying here. Therefore,
00:52:17.17\00:52:23.97
different soil types represented
and only one ended up bearing
fruit. That right, Jesus own
00:52:23.97\00:52:29.41
explanation of it. 75% didn't
yield a crop. That's right. And
that should be I don't know if
00:52:29.41\00:52:35.08
it's encouraging or not, but it
should be at least. We don't
have to have the pressure that
00:52:35.08\00:52:41.52
the one way we know works is if
everyone you talk to is going to
00:52:41.52\00:52:45.03
give their life to Jesus, just
not going to be the case in
Jesus. Didn't have that in his
00:52:45.03\00:52:47.60
own ministry. So we need to
recognize that. We can do
everything just right in still
00:52:47.60\00:52:54.67
people have their own choices to
make and they may not take the
word of God into their life and
00:52:54.67\00:52:58.71
become changed. That's on them.
So that's one lesson draw out
in. The second thing is, as I
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was alluding to earlier, you
have the same, see the same. So
the same technique, the only
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issue that makes any difference
here in the parable is the
condition of the heart, which
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should tell us. If I want to see
harvest crop. I need to start
working on the soil. And any
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goods. Any good farmer. It's
going to is the first thing
we're going to look at the
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condition of the soil. Is it to
Sandy? Is it to clay is a to
something we need to work
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that So it's ready for the seed,
right? And that's where in the
cycle of evangelism,
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the very first thing you do is
you start working on the soil by
by intentional, not random
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accident, but intentionally for
being friendly and sociable and
00:53:43.39\00:53:48.06
winning their confidence showing
sympathy for them. Right? But
this is that Christ method
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alone. The first steps of that
is to meet their need to start
to communicate with them,
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demonstrating the EU care for
them just as people but in
disinterested benevolence as
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we like. That's the word. And
that's a good phrase,
disinterested, not sensing
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debt. You're doing this with
some ulterior motive as people
can read that strength, a
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sense that you really genuinely
concerned about him and they
00:54:10.28\00:54:14.05
say, wow, you developing
relationships and that's the
planting Look, and that's what
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we're getting, too. Because.
Let's take that term
disinterested. You're absolute,
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right. I'm not doing this for
personal gain on not doing I
want money out of you or try to,
00:54:25.23\00:54:31.33
you know, try you know, leverage
our friendship for some other
benefit to me, right? I want you
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to have good things than I
praise the Lord that you're
blessed. Too often. I think
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we've taken disinterested the
Netherlands and assume that
means an interested, OK? All
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right. I am highly interested
not only in the temporal needs,
but their spiritual needs as
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well. And so it is not a bait
and switch to say like, oh, now
I bet you want me to study the
00:54:54.12\00:54:57.76
Bible. You're absolutely right.
I want study the Bible and I
want you to come. I want
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to be intentional about that
because I care for your soul.
Not because I care for my
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church growth. I want you to be
in the kingdom of God. So a lot
more than just this world.
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I want you the next world for
you, too. And so you move to the
next phase of like once of
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established that friendship
work, that friendship
evangelism, then you start to
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sow the seed. You look for
opportunities to invite to offer
Bible studies to share
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your personal testimony to
instant to, to, to weave in the
spiritual into that
00:55:25.02\00:55:30.56
temporal. You've got and look
for those responses of people
and say Lakeland, when you
00:55:30.56\00:55:35.10
offer some Bible study. They are
they interested? Would they like
to follow that with
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a light to come? Visit your
church is what start to
ascertain the spiritual aspect
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of their life. And you're moving
now from. Pairing the soil to
sowing the seed, which
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is the word of God that right.
And I have some significant
questions. Some of Nash in the
00:55:52.35\00:55:57.65
second hour. But I would just
reiterate to our viewers in our
listeners, evangelism. Has
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not the law has not rescinded
the commission. He didn't say
well, now things are
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different. Let's just try
different method because I love
that the word hasn't
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changed the The soil is the
condition of the human heart.
That varies from persons,
00:56:14.04\00:56:21.38
whether they have Cushman. So
and our life wherever they see
themselves, that's the could
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just condition of the human
heart. But we have to, as I
reiterate you that we have to
00:56:26.18\00:56:30.75
be intentional. Yes,
disinterested doesn't mean an
interested. So let's not look
00:56:30.75\00:56:38.33
at the 2. That means we're not
ulterior motive. From the word
go, we let the person know.
00:56:38.33\00:56:43.70
Hey, I'm your friend because I
just I genuinely want to be a
friend. But I do have a desire
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that your life becomes better.
Amen. >> And God works that
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process when we are intentional.
And the other thing about I love
which talked about the images
00:56:49.17\00:56:54.14
in the Bible. You know, when you
see Beeston dragons in sick,
sick, sick son, wars and
00:56:54.14\00:57:00.95
rumors of wars, these are images
put in the Bible by God self the
00:57:00.95\00:57:05.62
word of God accomplishes what
the seed. And that's a part of
the it's all winning our job.
00:57:05.62\00:57:16.43
Yes, Hot online. Yes, it's
everybody's job. Well, you know,
we have a lot more to cover the
00:57:16.43\00:57:19.87
second. I want to remind you
again, if you want to send your
questions in, send them into
00:57:19.87\00:57:25.17
618-228-3975. What techs those
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the second now we're going
00:57:25.17\00:57:30.78
to talk about a question. Is it
deceptive to hide our
denominational identity to be
00:57:30.78\00:57:40.16
successful in evangelism? Should
I tell people who I am? Come
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00:57:40.16\00:57:43.29
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