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another Thursday night live
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know, so fungible to join you as
part of our 3ABN, family. We
just want to say thank you
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for your prayers and financial
support for the ministry for
your Ministry. 3ABN, of
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course, Jesus Christ is the
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through this world. That seems
like there's so much chaos. So
much hurt so much uncertainty.
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We can always look to Jesus
Christ in the midst of the
storm. I tell you what a
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blessing to be alive. And this
moment and Earth's history is
incredible privilege. I think
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about the challenges that are
happening around the world may
be in your own home. We live
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could be very personal issues
going on. Jesus Christ cares for
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you. And so such a blessing
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Phone calls it blessing and just
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Plus 3ABN, plus, what's
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so special about it? Well, you
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what's really neat is that you
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really cool about that video on
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previously on 3ABN. You can play
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pretty neat video on demand.
Will this person who contacted
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But we feel that was divine
Providence, 3 ABN on YouTube.
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is an incredible network. They
found are 3 ABN plus app and
just so excited. They said we
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hope we never run out of videos
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found the truth and
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the word of God. So that's what
it's all about right? No matter
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ABN, whatever the Holy Spirit
is, impressing you to give or
donate toward the ministry of
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3 ABN. It's making a difference
the prayers that prey to the
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father in heaven. He hears them
and he's answering them
according to his well as making
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a difference in the world. But
what a privilege to be a life
outside about tonight's
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program, too. >> I am too. I was
just thinking about Fabian Plaza
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is over. 2500 videos right now
on Demand. Wow. Which means
2,500 videos. You can watch any
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time or listen to any time of 2
point Greg mentioned tonight's
program. We have a wonderful
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friend. We were trying to
discuss before this program, how
long we have known or
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special guests. And I don't know
if I should tell you, because
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then that makes me feel a little
older. But it is 25 years that
we've haha, I think has heading
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toward 30. I think it is. Yes,
we We have doctor David Shun
with us. It is privilege to have
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you with us here, doctor, Shin
and we knew each other in
college. So it's been a few
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years since that time. And
currently you are president of
Washington Hills College there
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and Amity, Arkansas. And we're
just so glad you're here
tonight. >> Yes, thank you. It's
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always a privilege to be here. 3
ABN and to see how the lords
working near lines. A surreal,
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isn't it, too? It is. Look back
to the mid-nineties when we were
in college. I mean, we
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started when we were like 5, you
know, Rod and Just regular
people. Yeah, yeah. It's so
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what that? >> That era. And
we thought the Lord was coming.
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Yeah. We said why 2000 there
around that time. Here we are 20
plus years later and just
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inspired by your ministry year 3
and then see how the lords
leading. And it's just an
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honor to be back here and
to share about. >> Learning for
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eternity. And we recently my
family recently moved from.
Anchorage, Alaska, Home life to
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Amity, Arkansas, a to a dramatic
change in temperature and and
time zones and so forth. But the
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Lord calls you got to go. And
it's been a wonderful experience
to be working with young minds
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and educating fraternity and a
wonderful experience. And so I'm
glad to share about how
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our education is not just.
>> School. >> Typically when we
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think of education were like,
oh, you know, when I get out of
college are getting my
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masters, I'm done, but we want
to talk about biblical education
and how are learning
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process really transcends a
standard education process. And
we're actually going to be
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learning in this life and the
life to come. So this is a I'm
really excited about tonight.
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Study to skip scripture and see
the philosophy of what a
biblical learning experience
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really can be by the grace of
God. >> So this is good because
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someone may be watching and we
do have many of you some of your
over 100 years of age,
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don't turn off the television
like, oh, I'm all passed the
education aspect, right? Yeah,
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because it's programs for
everybody. As they say, well, I
don't have any children or
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the education aspects all behind
me. Yeah, this is a daily
process. That's right.
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That's right. Because because
that's what makes heaven
dynamic, OK? Because some
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people think, oh, I'm going go
to heaven and like, what am I
going to do forever? Well,
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thing is we're going to be
learning. Yeah, Fergie turn for
ever and have been and
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will will never really arrived
here because the infinite mind
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of God in every >> day will be a
wow And for those of you that
don't like school. Well, heaven
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is going to be a school where
you are never tired of learning.
And yet the greatest teacher in
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the world. and that's what makes
life the zest of life is when
you're always crawling.
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You're always learning always
striving but never arriving. And
every day to be like.
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blows my mind. is amazing. This
is amazing. And this wonderful,
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creative work. So that's what's
going to make eternity. So
beautiful. We can never come to
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the place even and have been
what we say either. I've
arrived. Just that's the
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beautiful thing. So learning for
return, team is going to be a a
wonderful experience you can
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start now. That's a start. So
matter if you're 5, 10, 15, 40,
our 105, yeah. 100 This this
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study is for all of unmanned is
for all of us by the grace of
God. >> Want to just mention
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here, too, far as we want before
you dive into the program here.
And I just say that the Lord
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has given you want to say guys
getting a tremendous gift, built
the Bible and go to
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break it down. You know, bill to
explain it and easy to
understand language
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applications. This is powerful,
tremendous talent. >> We used to
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be on the traveling choir you
say when the parts of the choir
and the EU would give the little
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like devotional ended way
through the end. And I was just
a little college student there
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and and I was always amaze, you
know, the illustrations and
stuff. So it's a blessing.
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You've been a part of 3ABN form
and 20 years doing program
chapels, a first-half.
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Yes, when I started, yes, oh,
wow. And then battled of play
those anymore. Shaha to know
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it's yeah. Thank you so much for
And God use you for being a
vessel the guy can pour
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through and now you're also
ministering to college students
is to many others as
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well. I want to also say to
Doctor David Shinn is also the
newest one of the newest
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members of the 3ABN board of
directors. Here we a good board
of directors here, very
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blessed. Our chairman of the
board Mister Bruce Farley. And
we have other board members.
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But thank you. Also for serving
as a 3ABN board member are
privileged to have you
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part of part of the team. Let's
talk about your family, though,
to be his last time.
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You're here. We're talking about
a baby, Hudson, your wife to
kneel because everyone
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doing how old is the babys?
Yeah, baby. Yeah. A little
background. Okay. We we
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weren't going to have kids came
foster something like that and
and then we went to
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Alaska and surprise. Surprise.
My wife's, like I think I'm
pregnant. I said, oh, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no. >> I said
we were planning on this and I
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said, where are these pregnancy
tests? And waited for like an
eternity team like in thing your
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brain and >> So reading up on
this and yeah, wouldn't wouldn't
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change it for the world. We love
Hudson, he their firstborn and
then of course you get one.
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And then you're like, OK, well,
let's have another one. So he's
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not by himself a playmate. Yeah.
And so we have Boy-girl Hudson
in Clara and an old are they son
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is now going on 5 this year. How
unclear is going on, too? So
very cute. You know, here I am
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in my mid 40's and changing
diapers. And so for the
wonderful experience. But I'm
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like I can see why they have
their kids younger. but I like
to see a Sam a little bit
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wiser now. So, you know, it's a
tradeoff. You may not have the
energy, perhaps I'm a
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little bit can contribute a
little bit more to the parenting
but they've been an
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absolute joy and her experience
and we're just enjoying and
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relishing every moment with
them. And and we we named our
sun. No high aspirations that
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all we named our Sun Hudson
after Hudson Michael, after my
dad and in shin, of course, and
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the initials just happened to be
H and M no. That's Richard.
That's Richard senior. The
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great. >> A foundering speaker
for the voice of prophecy. And
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so no pressure, no pressure We
and we loved Clara Kuz after
Clara Barton, the great
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American Red Cross and so forth.
So anyways, we're just we're
just thrilled to be
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parents. It's it's been tiring.
It sometimes. But but the joy,
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what a blessing. blessing. You
know their precious your kids
are so keen owns is wonderful
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wife some time and give them
are greedy. Yes, will. >> I know
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we're going to to some music and
we would jump into our topic
tonight. I'm very excited about
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learning for eternity. I'm just
taking a look at some of the
questions you're going to
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receive answers to 10. I am
about the connection between
salvation in education and
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salvation in the sanctuary and
the 144,000 and true education
and what is true education, as
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we discussed learning for
eternity. But before we jump
into that, we Lady Love Smith
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with us tonight. Good, wonderful
friends of the ministry.
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Incredible and the song they
will be ministering is I will
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¤ >> Amen. Thank you so
very much. Reggie and Lady Love
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Smith. An incredible couple.
Love the Lord. What amazing
song. I will serve thee and
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that should be the prayer of
each one of us. They may want to
be servants of the Lord
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Jesus Christ. And what's
incredible to me is that you can
do that no matter if
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you're house pound, can't get
out. Maybe you've got a big
position in the world. We
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don't know. But the Lord knows,
you know, we can serve the Lord
wherever we're at to
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praise God. >> Speaking of
serving the Lord, we can learn
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for eternity. our topic for
tonight learning for eternity.
Our special guest, if you're
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just joining us is Doctor David
Shinn, who is the president of
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Washtenaw Hills College. And
let's jump right into our topic.
Yes. What is the philosophy of
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biblical an education? >> Yes,
there's there's a fascinating by
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Ellen White called Education.
Yes, and I encourage people, you
can get it online if you just
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Google, Ellen, White education,
it pulls up in. There's there's
one chapter that everyone
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should read and it's chapter
one. And chapter one indicates
that our vision of education
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is to narrow. It needs to be
broader. And she indicates that
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needs to take into
consideration. The total
possible potential for the
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existence of man. In other
words, education is not just K
through 12 and then college and
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grad school education is not
only for this life but for
eternal life. Yeah. And
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typically when we think of
education were like, okay, I'm
going to get a nice job. Get a
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career and the education is is
specifically tailored for that
career in. It's going to prepare
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you for forgetting nights. Nest
egg for one k that you start
putting into you, you marry that
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individual. That dream has been
that dream wife. You have your
SUV. He had the white
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picket fence and you have your
golden retriever and then you
have your 2.5 children just a
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statistic. Anyway, you have
swimming pool in going have an
RV and you go and travel
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around and then and then. >> You
retire and then you die. So so
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that's basically like the
existence and secular education
today. >> Is tailored for that
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vision. for a 70, 80, 90 maybe
100 year existence. And so it's
prepared for that. But
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biblical education takes
into consideration. The total
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possible. >> Period of existence
that that man can live. In other
words, eternity. now here's
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the thing. Here's the thing. it
Bill Gates come see you and is
like a. If you give me $10.
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A wire into your bank account.
With Swift. Swift. I know there
any way get into all
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that weight with swiftness and
loaded nowadays are whipped a
wind. Your bank account a
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billion dollars. How many of us
would would be willing to take
that risk? I Yeah. I a
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lot less today, as you can
imagine with inflation and so
forth. But Bill Gates did
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that, I'd be like I give him
$100. You can you know, I even
if you didn't come through,
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I'd be willing to take the risk.
Right? And here it is. God says,
look. Give me. Trust
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me. With your 70, 80, 90 100
years of existence. And I'll
keep you. He turned the
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turkey. turned. That is
powerful. He turn now. What is
he turned me? You can live for
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a trillion years. And that's not
even. Scratch the just the
beginning. That's just the
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beginning. And so many times
were like, you know, with our
$10 were like, whoa, I lowered
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like this thing. I mean, this
has been with me for a few years
now. I just this. I just
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ask you a little too much. Yeah.
And and we hold on to it when
guys like look, trust
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Trust me. And so when it comes
to our learning experience, God
is saying, look, don't
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just trust me with your
finances. Don't just trust me.
Wiz with your health. And and
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with resources, whatever it may
be. Trust me with the education.
Stress me, with the
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edge, you can trust me with your
learning process because God's
method of education as
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we'll find out in our study
today as many times and
conventional in the were in
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the in the prospectus yeah. >>
So are you saying that biblical
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education involves surrender?
absolutely. Because look, when
you have the world saying this
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is the way you need to educate.
This is the standard protocol
and then the Bible is present in
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quite a different picture. It
takes faith to say Lord. I'm
gonna go with the biblical model
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because many times the world.
You're crazy. Ukraine's look at
the education of Jesus.
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Look at the education of Jesus,
Jesus. Unconventional, go to
schools of the rabbi's.
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Same with John the Baptist and
these world changers may change
the world. Yes, look at
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the type of education. I mean,
it became a stigma even later on
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when if he was homeschooled.
Okay. he was homeschooled. I'm
not saying, you know, either
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way, but but let's just call it
what it is. And he was home. He
was home-schooled by his mom.
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And then he didn't go to the
school, the rabbis and later on
when he's teaching, they
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said, how does this bring these
biblical truth when he didn't go
to our schools? And
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so there's a associated with it
and look at the end, what Jesus
did it to 12 men. These
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quote, unquote. He educated and
turned the world upside down. He
changed the so we can
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see that takes faith. It takes
renter 2 to step out and say
Lord. I'm going to be educated
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by the Lord Jesus. And like I
say, I'm not just talking about
conventional education.
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All of a school contacts, but
even beyond this, of of what?
The potential impact of
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interaction, interaction with
the mind of the Infinite God,
infinite got now there was a
00:22:24.91\00:22:31.71
there. There was before the
pandemic every year. Warren
Buffett would auction off on
00:22:31.71\00:22:36.85
E-bay an opportunity to have
lunch with him. And the
beginning on E-bay. The first
00:22:36.85\00:22:42.49
one went for $25,000. And that's
an expensive lunch blunt. The
00:22:42.49\00:22:47.73
most recent one prior to
pandemic. 2019 set the record.
It was 4.6 million dollars
00:22:47.73\00:22:57.64
million, 4.6 million dollars.
And I'm not sure how the lunch
was made out. How long? Maybe 2
00:22:57.64\00:23:02.41
hours, Max, a few. But his 4.6
million dollars. the question is
after every time they do Yes,
00:23:02.41\00:23:07.22
Kate, is it worth is worth? And
you know, they all say.
Absolutely they'll see it was
00:23:07.22\00:23:14.86
worth it to engage the most
brilliant mind in finances,
arguably Warren Buffett, it was
00:23:14.86\00:23:21.86
worth Now, how much have a
conversation with the infinite
mind of God. Yeah, it's good and
00:23:21.86\00:23:34.78
it's free. The book education
brings out. Communion with God.
Is the highest form of education
00:23:34.78\00:23:45.15
a quaint. Now thy self with him.
So so when you open your Bible
morning devotions, you're
00:23:45.15\00:23:50.86
receiving an education from the
infinite mind of got and this is
00:23:50.86\00:23:57.00
not Harvard, Yale, Princeton,
these Ivy League schools. This
trend sense, even that
00:23:57.00\00:24:00.50
experience the mind of man.
Brought into conversation with
the mind of God. This is this is
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this is what you education is.
And this education continues on
beyond this life. Even to
00:24:08.44\00:24:14.12
eternity. I mean, a zing thought
when you think about this
process and that's what
00:24:14.12\00:24:17.82
Adam and Eve had before the
fall. Adam and in Big education
00:24:17.82\00:24:21.96
brings out the Garden of Eden.
Was the school God Jesus Christ
himself was the teacher and Adam
00:24:21.96\00:24:29.53
and Eve where the pupils on a
dayto-day basis they would
receive communion face to face
00:24:29.53\00:24:37.07
communion with the King of Kings
and Lord of load boards. And so
00:24:37.07\00:24:41.51
that that was the dynamic
experience. I mean, can you
imagine having a conversation
00:24:41.51\00:24:50.02
with Jesus Christ face to face
They made the and the impact
that that would have. And we're
00:24:50.02\00:24:55.02
told that after the fall that
face to face encounter was no
longer possible. They were they
00:24:55.02\00:25:01.83
were let out of that. Even
school. And even though God
wanted that relationship, that
00:25:01.83\00:25:07.17
conversation, by the way,
conversation is the
relationship. Now. There was a
00:25:07.17\00:25:09.57
husband wife couple. The husband
was always. A little miffed at
his wife because the
00:25:09.57\00:25:16.68
wife was I will always want to
talk about the relationship.
It's like, why do we need talk
00:25:16.68\00:25:22.38
about the relationship where in
relation we always need to talk
about? It? He's going to
00:25:22.38\00:25:25.09
his day and said the ended up if
any, he's like the conversation
00:25:25.09\00:25:29.89
is the relationship. Yeah. And
our lives change slowly then
dramatically. One conversation
00:25:29.89\00:25:37.60
at a time. And so when you think
about this, we talk about a
relationship with God.
00:25:37.60\00:25:40.44
What is that is the
conversation. It's convenient
and that's what Adam Eve had
00:25:40.44\00:25:44.17
before the fall. And after the
fall, that face to face
encounter was no longer
00:25:44.17\00:25:51.95
possible. And you can see that
with Moses. Moses asked to see
the face of God and got to
00:25:51.95\00:25:55.32
that. You can't see my face
and lips. So there's a dramatic
00:25:55.32\00:25:58.75
change. God wants this
relationship, but because of
sin, I mean, if you've reveals
00:25:58.75\00:26:03.56
himself, we would be consumed.
So so got has to accommodate
this and the educational process
00:26:03.56\00:26:08.80
has to change. And you can see
the attempt by God in a form of
condescension in a form of
00:26:08.80\00:26:16.77
accommodation, even in the
burning Bush even accommodate in
the interaction with Moses
00:26:16.77\00:26:20.91
by being in a Bush. Alright,
playing Bush. Yeah. Bush any but
but he shows you divine
00:26:20.91\00:26:31.85
accommodation. And then in the
sanctuary got is like, look. >>
Let them build me a
00:26:31.85\00:26:36.46
sanctuary that I mean, well,
among them so that she kind of
glory came all the way down.
00:26:36.46\00:26:39.73
There was no floor in the
sanctuary. It was encompassed by
a veil. But in order for
00:26:39.73\00:26:44.00
got to do well among his people,
it had to be enshrouded had to
00:26:44.00\00:26:49.87
be can taste. And so God then
had to condescend and the
ultimate the ultimate form of
00:26:49.87\00:26:58.51
condescension, of course, is in
Jesus Christ. As I was just the
word became in John, he
00:26:58.51\00:27:06.02
says and tabernacle with us and
says and we be held his glory.
So in other words, when
00:27:06.02\00:27:11.99
you look at the face of Jesus.
You're now able to look at that
pace guide. Yeah, it's
00:27:11.99\00:27:17.57
divinity. That has been shrouded
or covered by humanity. And
00:27:17.57\00:27:23.57
that's how we receive our
education is the Bible says that
the light, the knowledge of the
00:27:23.57\00:27:30.68
glory of God is found in the
face of Jesus Christ. So God
came in human form through Jesus
00:27:30.68\00:27:39.02
Christ to reveal God to not only
men but 2 Angels. It's a
beautiful thought. When you
00:27:39.02\00:27:44.53
think about this education
process, beautiful >> So doctor
00:27:44.53\00:27:49.76
Shin, then some of you watching
tonight and it's too late for I
mean, there's no way my life's
00:27:49.76\00:27:53.97
been a mess. I'm a wreck. I'm up
in age or maybe young person.
But it's there's no way there's
00:27:53.97\00:28:01.44
no way I can correct ways and
have this to education finding
God. Is it possible?
00:28:01.44\00:28:06.41
Absolutely. Always possible is
always hope is. You know,
there's one quote, This is our
00:28:06.41\00:28:11.49
lives may seem a but as we give
our lives to the great master
worker, he will bring
00:28:11.49\00:28:17.19
out a form and character that
will be to his glory. So so when
when an individual feels
00:28:17.19\00:28:20.10
like there's no hope. >> We
serve a God. That can do You can
do the impossible. if
00:28:20.10\00:28:27.50
he can become a human being.
Like you and me and and lived
this life and it shows you the
00:28:27.50\00:28:35.08
lengths the gun is willing to go
to save us. And so it's not it's
never too late. It's
00:28:35.08\00:28:40.65
never too late. As long as you
know, some in this kind of goes
along the lines of like
00:28:40.65\00:28:44.75
the and carnival since some
people maybe a community
Carnival said. And I tell
00:28:44.75\00:28:48.12
people if you're afraid that you
come into part of the you have
it because the one part
00:28:48.12\00:28:53.43
of Wilson released a searing of
the conscience of the place
where you don't care anymore.
00:28:53.43\00:28:56.97
You can't even hear the Holy
Spirit's prompting Ys. So as
long as you have a desire or
00:28:56.97\00:29:01.57
you even concern. then it shows
you that the Holy Spirit is
working on your heart and
00:29:01.57\00:29:08.48
to be attitudes is really a
ladder. Blessed are the poor in
spirit and goes on up the
00:29:08.48\00:29:13.68
ladder ground 0 is look poor in
spirit means knows that
recognize or spiritual
00:29:13.68\00:29:19.59
poverty. It's few cents. You're
an Don't dwell on it. But look,
00:29:19.59\00:29:26.86
recognize that the Holy Spirit
is causing you to realize your
own worthiness and that's going.
00:29:26.86\00:29:33.37
And that's the Holy Spirit
drawing you to Jesus. Look, if
you never thirst, you don't feel
00:29:33.37\00:29:38.71
your neck and soil. First is a
good thing and a good thing. So
if you feel you need if you feel
00:29:38.71\00:29:41.84
unworthy, it is not a time for
like just focusing on self, but
that that awareness cause
00:29:41.84\00:29:48.48
us to look at the And that's the
thing about education. Is that
it's impossible to teach
00:29:48.48\00:29:53.32
someone that thinks they know it
I have you met a few people like
that. Yeah, I met haha.
00:29:53.32\00:30:07.87
look, I have been humbled and
I've been an experience where I
felt like I knew it all. He
00:30:07.87\00:30:12.01
had the Lord in us. Mercy allows
me to eat some humble pie.
00:30:12.01\00:30:16.51
>> I'm like, oh, well, always
me. And the lords like all
right, David, you need to
00:30:16.51\00:30:21.78
realize. >> You have a big
need. And when you're up to this
00:30:21.78\00:30:25.79
source, it's good that and
that's the beauty of the gospel,
the beauty of the Gospel is
00:30:25.79\00:30:28.59
that. Education. Israeli,
Salvation. >> Yeah, that's
that's what that's that's the
00:30:28.59\00:30:37.50
theme that we're going with.
Your yeah. the book, education
indicates. >> That in the
00:30:37.50\00:30:40.67
highest sense the work of
education and the work of
redemption, our our won. So in
00:30:40.67\00:30:47.74
other words, your education with
Jesus Christ not talking about
school. All right. I'm talking
00:30:47.74\00:30:51.65
about beyond. >> Our parochial
education of a formal education.
00:30:51.65\00:30:56.42
We should be learning for
eternity. And and in reality,
our education should lead to our
00:30:56.42\00:31:02.62
salvation. And I would say if
you are in a formal education
and your educational endeavor is
00:31:02.62\00:31:08.26
causing you to lose your relish
for spiritual things. Now I'm
talking to the young
00:31:08.26\00:31:11.63
people in particular for even
young adults. If your education
00:31:11.63\00:31:17.67
is causing you to have a disdain
or a reverence for the Godly for
Ford, for Scripture or are
00:31:17.67\00:31:24.51
causing you to to lose your
spirituality is not true.
Education in the high sense your
00:31:24.51\00:31:34.86
education should need teachers.
Outpatient. Yeah. Wow. That in
the highest your work and
00:31:34.86\00:31:36.79
education in the work of
redemption or want and it's not
worth it. have to sell
00:31:36.79\00:31:41.76
your soul in order to get a
career. It's not worth it. And
what does it profit? A person
00:31:41.76\00:31:46.20
to gain the whole world? And yet
lose his own soul. And so this
is a radical idea that
00:31:46.20\00:31:53.24
we're talking about here when
the Bible talks about education,
it is talking about
00:31:53.24\00:31:58.08
something more than just a
formal education. it's talking
about your salvation. And any
00:31:58.08\00:32:03.79
turn a tea. And it's to bring
us. Yeah. That face to face
communion that Adam and Eve
00:32:03.79\00:32:11.69
had before the fall that face to
face encounter our education
should be leading us
00:32:11.69\00:32:17.70
2 that face to face encounter.
Now, look remember one time I? I
was using a public restroom.
00:32:17.70\00:32:27.01
And I opened the door to the
public restroom and there was a
famous Let's say I'm not
00:32:27.01\00:32:31.35
going to tell you who it was
because it's going to be
distracting. but there he was
00:32:31.35\00:32:34.58
in the flash like. it was it was
the most awkward thing because I
00:32:34.58\00:32:44.53
felt like I knew him. Thank you.
Didn't know you get this. The
big problem. He didn't know me.
00:32:44.53\00:32:52.37
And so it's like, oh, hi. And I
just kind of went around him and
I he was. And it was just And
00:32:52.37\00:32:57.51
then I go to people you know,
you know what, you know, I
didn't really meet him, but
00:32:57.51\00:33:01.91
coming out public matching
bathroom and so forth. >> Well,
here's the thing. In
00:33:01.91\00:33:05.61
revelation, Chapter 6 indicates
that when Jesus come second
time, yeah, there's
00:33:05.61\00:33:10.05
going to be a whole host of
people that call for the
mountains and rocks to item
00:33:10.05\00:33:13.82
from face Jesus. Tragic, tragic
case. And I ask people like,
look what? Would be your
00:33:13.82\00:33:21.03
emotional reaction. Let's say
writing studio right now. Jesus
walked into this room.
00:33:21.03\00:33:25.37
Boby Would it be like hi. I know
>> awkward. You know, like you
00:33:25.37\00:33:33.98
would that be your interaction
or would it be like? I know you
more importantly, you know
00:33:33.98\00:33:40.92
me, you know, of course he knows
this. But you know I'm talking
about in relation of
00:33:40.92\00:33:43.35
dynamic. >> And and look, one
day we're going to get to see
00:33:43.35\00:33:47.06
God face to face. And how do we
ensure? Now when we see God in
the flesh, it's not like
00:33:47.06\00:33:59.53
>> I don't really know. You and
water education should do is
that when we meet that
00:33:59.53\00:34:04.54
person because we have
interacted with him to the word.
Our picks up right where
00:34:04.54\00:34:13.58
we left off. And that's why the
Bible says that there's going to
be a group of people,
00:34:13.58\00:34:17.52
a generation that says this is
our God. We have waited for him
and he will save us. I
00:34:17.52\00:34:23.36
want to be in that grow. Yes.
On group. Yeah. That's powerful.
00:34:23.36\00:34:27.66
>> I love Let's switch gears
just a moment. We've been
talking about what is biblical
00:34:27.66\00:34:34.30
education and the connection
between education and
redemption, education in
00:34:34.30\00:34:38.27
celebration. >> Let's
talk about the impact.
00:34:38.27\00:34:42.61
>> Of biblical education.
education. Your life? Yes. Or
examples from the word of God
00:34:42.61\00:34:46.38
or yeah, free. Yes. tell
you what I. >> Grew up in the
00:34:46.38\00:34:54.52
church, but at a very nominal
experience. And and the Lord led
me to a school. Ironically, it's
00:34:54.52\00:35:04.10
cool that I'm the privilege of
being president of right now. He
said do not need. Yeah,
00:35:04.10\00:35:08.94
except it was the academy. There
was no college at the time. And
this is in 1990, for
00:35:08.94\00:35:12.27
my junior year in high school
before went to the school that
we went together I went there
00:35:12.27\00:35:19.38
and I plucked from the brand by
my parents, told me, look at We
don't like the direction
00:35:19.38\00:35:22.55
you're going in your life. So
forth. And they said, look,
either give Bible studies to
00:35:22.55\00:35:28.06
your friends. We're going to
send you this school on the
middle of nowhere. And I said,
00:35:28.06\00:35:31.56
what's the name of school?
Because I was like, no way of
saying have you seen my
00:35:31.56\00:35:37.13
friends? You think I'm going to
Michael said he said them. It's
like no way the name of
00:35:37.13\00:35:41.17
the school. So they went with a
70 to one school. I lasted there
for about a semester.
00:35:41.17\00:35:43.24
Then that I went to this other
school >> watched as academy.
00:35:43.24\00:35:49.44
And that and I'm president of
Washington Hills College. 25
years later. But anyways, I
00:35:49.44\00:35:52.91
arrived there and even though
from an external standpoint, I
was not. People tell me that
00:35:52.91\00:36:01.92
when I arrived on campus, a
member at one board tell me that
board member. Tell me
00:36:01.92\00:36:05.86
David, we thought that you when
you arrived. We made a mistake
00:36:05.86\00:36:12.30
state because of externals
demand at the time is long here
on long. You're down here. Your
00:36:12.30\00:36:17.61
pants to fit properly. Is this a
baggy jeans? Thing of the 90's?
And so for us, I ride on campus
00:36:17.61\00:36:22.11
and a little chip on my shoulder
to I will meant. But inside I
was searching and it
00:36:22.11\00:36:25.95
was there. I started canvassing
and the staff there revealed to
00:36:25.95\00:36:32.89
me love of God. And a year
later, I was kneeling down after
camps in program gave Marc Lore
00:36:32.89\00:36:36.99
came back on campus. My senior
year and dramatic that the Lord.
So for me, going to that school
00:36:36.99\00:36:45.47
was was redemptive and accepted
the Lord Jesus as my savior and
00:36:45.47\00:36:51.64
I accepted the minister will
call call the ministry. And it's
been a it's been a a wonderful
00:36:51.64\00:36:59.41
experience following him and the
and the seminal moment was was
an educational process and where
00:36:59.41\00:37:05.25
the educational system was a
biblical education in which
education and redemption. one
00:37:05.25\00:37:12.53
it led me to Christ. So that's
that up powerful moment. In my
experience. And going back to
00:37:12.53\00:37:18.10
this idea of the impact of
education. You think about.
Every revolution in history
00:37:18.10\00:37:23.41
has been linked education. And
that's people have said that's
excellent. If you want to
00:37:23.41\00:37:28.84
change the world, change the
university change the university
00:37:28.84\00:37:35.42
and you change the world. You
think what Jesus did on the
search traveled in a little area
00:37:35.42\00:37:41.29
in Palestine, took 12 men. Said
follow me and for 3 and a half
years. They had the greatest
00:37:41.29\00:37:49.63
teacher the world has ever
known. And you think just 3 and
a half years. But this wasn't
00:37:49.63\00:37:54.77
just 9 to 5, 3 days a week for a
degree. This was. 24 7. Yeah,
right? Yeah. 7 days a week.
00:37:54.77\00:38:02.31
They ate with them. They slept
with him. You know, you know, I
mean all these things, you
00:38:02.31\00:38:06.45
they they they roomed with him.
All the time and they they they
00:38:06.45\00:38:08.42
they heard and teach. >> And and
and by his example and the and
00:38:08.42\00:38:14.82
the modeling that he had for 3
and a half years. And then you
look at the book of Acts when
00:38:14.82\00:38:18.26
Peter John, our before the run.
They took note of them that they
had been with Jesus. So that's
00:38:18.26\00:38:27.37
the transformation that took
place. Jesus took those 12 man.
00:38:27.37\00:38:29.30
>> And change the world and
change the world. Dramatic
dramatic change when we think
00:38:29.30\00:38:34.58
about education and the
processes that that can take
This there's a few other
00:38:34.58\00:38:39.85
examples that I want to
highlight here. And one of them
is a spending a little
00:38:39.85\00:38:45.45
bit of time on will be called
the counter reformation. The
counter reformation is one of
00:38:45.45\00:38:49.62
those things that that can
really it's a cause for pause.
And and I just want to read a
00:38:49.62\00:38:56.90
few quotes in regards to the
counter reformation this is at
the 5 100th anniversary of the
00:38:56.90\00:39:04.47
count of the reformation in
2017. It was it was a, you know,
500 years prior to 2017
00:39:04.47\00:39:12.48
15, 17 Martin Luther Neil be 95
his pieces on the door. The
Wittenberg Chapel. And here we
00:39:12.48\00:39:18.72
are today. Protestant
Reformation, America, Protestant
00:39:18.72\00:39:21.86
country. And there's a quote
here that I want to read. It
says somewhere in Pope Francis's
00:39:21.86\00:39:27.96
office is a document that could
alter the course of Christian
history. It declares
00:39:27.96\00:39:32.60
an end to the hostilities
between Catholics and
evangelicals and says that the
00:39:32.60\00:39:36.94
2 traditions are now united in
mission because we had to
clearing the same gospel. The
00:39:36.94\00:39:41.84
Holy father is thinking of
signing the techs in 2017, the 5
100th anniversary of the
00:39:41.84\00:39:47.25
reformation alongside
evangelical leaders representing
00:39:47.25\00:39:51.22
one in 4 Christians in the world
today. And here's a sentence I
want to highlight. Wow, Francis
00:39:51.22\00:39:55.46
is convinced that the
reformation is already over. >>
00:39:55.46\00:40:03.23
Wow. >> I mean it he says is I
mean, this is a remarkable
statement. remarkable
00:40:03.23\00:40:06.90
statement at the 5 100th
anniversary. This pope says it's
over. It's over when you
00:40:06.90\00:40:11.91
see think an end. He says right
here. He believes it ended in
00:40:11.91\00:40:16.61
1999. The year the Catholic
Church and the Lutheran World
Federation issued a joint
00:40:16.61\00:40:22.58
declaration on justification.
The doctrine at the heart of
Luther's protests. Wow.
00:40:22.58\00:40:28.62
>> So this is outlook. Pope
Francis is the first Jesuit
Pope. Is the first Jesuit
00:40:28.62\00:40:34.83
Pope. And I know there's a lot
of conspiracy theories around
there about Jesuits and so
00:40:34.83\00:40:42.00
forth. But but it is it is an
order of the Catholic Church is
called the Society of
00:40:42.00\00:40:46.98
Jesus. And now this is
significant. I'll come back to
this moment. But but but look,
00:40:46.98\00:40:49.51
look at the implications of
this. The Protestant reformation
00:40:49.51\00:40:55.32
is over, according to him now to
to some degree, I agree with his
assessment. I I believe that by
00:40:55.32\00:41:00.29
and large, the mainline
Protestant churches have gone
00:41:00.29\00:41:06.29
back to Rob. >> see that you can
see by the ecumenical movement
00:41:06.29\00:41:10.93
and so forth. >> It used to be
even in the 1960's when JFK was
running for president. It was a
00:41:10.93\00:41:15.94
big deal. Was Cali a rise and
yet to meet with the evangelical
pastors and be like, alright.
00:41:15.94\00:41:20.68
>> You keep the Constitution.
Are you going syndrome? And this
is a big deal. Now in
00:41:20.68\00:41:25.61
2022, it seems like everybody is
Catholic or it's not a big deal
and and so forth. So and
00:41:25.61\00:41:33.46
and as a side note here, this is
not saying that Catholics can't
be saved the economy.
00:41:33.46\00:41:39.59
What we're talking about systems
here, I believe that there's
00:41:39.59\00:41:42.53
Catholics and Protestants and
people that in of different face
that are for walking in the
00:41:42.53\00:41:49.80
light that they have correct and
and have a relationship with
God. And in our in our striving
00:41:49.80\00:41:55.44
and end of the issue is is light
and not not the heart. So that's
an important point. We we we
00:41:55.44\00:41:59.68
need to make as we talk about
all this and and the thing is
how are they able to do it? How
00:41:59.68\00:42:06.55
were they able to bring
Protestantism back? And the
answer is. Education. The
00:42:06.55\00:42:12.99
answer is education. Wow. The
Jesuits were teachers where
teachers friend. Let me just
00:42:12.99\00:42:19.73
read a few other quotes here in
terms of the the impact that the
Roman Catholic Church
00:42:19.73\00:42:29.58
had to the society of Jesus and
the the system death. The
Jesuits brought in, OK, I'll
00:42:29.58\00:42:36.55
go here. Painter. The history of
education. Listen to this. The
Jesuit system of Education
00:42:36.55\00:42:44.99
was intended to meet the active
influence of Protestantism in
00:42:44.99\00:42:50.93
education. It was remarkably
successful and for a century
following 15, 80 84, nearly all
00:42:50.93\00:42:57.11
the foremost man of Christendom
came from Jesuit schools rely in
17, 10 day at 600. Listen to
00:42:57.11\00:43:06.15
this. 612 colleges, 157 normal
schools. 24 universities. And in
the men's number of lower
00:43:06.15\00:43:14.16
schools. So so you can see that
the of >> of what they did. How
00:43:14.16\00:43:20.60
did they bring process into
the back? The Jesuit order said
00:43:20.60\00:43:26.07
look, the children
Protestantism. I'm going to go
to our schools. So if you change
00:43:26.07\00:43:29.94
the university, you change the
world, the world. And there's
another book. I have my called
00:43:29.94\00:43:36.54
from Dawn to decadence and is
from brilliant historian. And he
indicates that the the way
00:43:36.54\00:43:44.95
that the Jesuits brought
president isn't back is again,
education out now I want to
00:43:44.95\00:43:50.29
read this quote from dawn to
decadence page. 42, meanwhile,
by Karen, thoughtful, continue
00:43:50.29\00:43:54.63
revise methods. The Jesuit shown
as school Masters unsurpassed in
00:43:54.63\00:44:00.64
the history of education. Their
success was due to the most
efficient form of teacher
00:44:00.64\00:44:06.01
training ever seen. They knew
that born teachers are scarce is
true poets and that the next
00:44:06.01\00:44:10.31
best thing cannot be made cash
Ali, out of in different
materials. So they devised a
00:44:10.31\00:44:15.15
preparation that included
exhausted learning and severe.
We're doing of the unfit from
00:44:15.15\00:44:20.62
every phase of long
apprenticeship. In other words.
If you're half a teacher, you
00:44:20.62\00:44:29.60
were cut. They were serious
about the training of of their
teachers and the Jesuit set up
00:44:29.60\00:44:34.44
schools by this Gore in the mid
17th century in Europe, there
are more schools and pupils than
00:44:34.44\00:44:39.57
the mid 19th century. Indeed,
there was soon complained of too
many schools for the
00:44:39.57\00:44:44.61
population all likely use rich
or poor would given means to
attend and the merits of the
00:44:44.61\00:44:49.18
system. We're sure the scene in
the Galaxy a brilliant minds
that it produced. Listen
00:44:49.18\00:44:53.62
to this from Descartes to
Voltaire. Wow and beyond and a
good many philosophers and
00:44:53.62\00:44:59.56
scientists were educated. Bye.
The Jesuits. So you can see how
they did this. They
00:44:59.56\00:45:06.37
brought it back and it's an
irony. That the 5 100th
anniversary of the first
00:45:06.37\00:45:11.14
Jesuit pope in history says the
reformation another. What is
interesting, we did We
00:45:11.14\00:45:16.95
brought the daughters back to
the mother church. So this is
where we're at. So this is the
00:45:16.95\00:45:22.92
impact of education. It is
powerful. It is powerful and you
can see how in the counter
00:45:22.92\00:45:28.42
reformation this is how they
were able to turn the tide
Protestantism back as
00:45:28.42\00:45:35.16
recognize that it wasn't just a
theological idea. The
reformation represented up
00:45:35.16\00:45:39.87
power shift in Western Europe
because prior to that, it was
all on the domination of
00:45:39.87\00:45:44.71
Catholicism. But after the
reformation, Germany took its
stand and prostitutes of
00:45:44.71\00:45:53.45
Scandinavian countries. I mean,
these are big powerhouses in
00:45:53.45\00:45:55.55
Europe. And so this this was the
shift to bring everyone back and
the power of education. Now
00:45:55.55\00:46:03.22
that's powerful. I know we're
going through quite a study. I'm
here this evening. And again,
00:46:03.22\00:46:08.86
we're talking about 3 ABN plus
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and things are being
00:46:08.86\00:46:12.17
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00:46:35.79\00:46:40.50
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you've been mention a number
00:46:40.50\00:46:44.07
of quotes this evening. Maybe
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00:46:44.07\00:46:46.10
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00:46:46.10\00:46:52.57
>> I want to flip it. What you
talk about the impact of
education in a negative said,
00:46:52.57\00:46:57.68
the Jesuit on a reformation.
Yes. What about says putting on
the spot here? What about
00:46:57.68\00:47:03.62
the impact of education for the
reformation? I'm thinking of the
00:47:03.62\00:47:06.55
Walden sees yeah. Outage and CVS
others who are involved in that
Yes. So you can see this line of
00:47:06.55\00:47:15.33
of what we call the invisible
church. >> So during the dark
ages, we had a visible church,
00:47:15.33\00:47:20.74
which was the papacy. And you
had this invisible. >> Church,
00:47:20.74\00:47:26.21
it's not like they were
literally invisible, but they
didn't have a church structure
00:47:26.21\00:47:31.08
were. And and the church,
according to book of Revelation,
goes into hiding for 1260 years
00:47:31.08\00:47:35.48
during that type of high time of
hiding where there was no
visible church, he had groups
00:47:35.48\00:47:42.06
like the outage and the Walden
season and like you said, they
took the education of the young
00:47:42.06\00:47:47.76
people seriously. And at the
center of that education, what's
the word of God? They
00:47:47.76\00:47:51.70
preserve the word of God. They
they taught them in the country
and the all of these
00:47:51.70\00:47:59.57
things. And it was it was
responsible for the preserving
of the legacy of true. So so
00:47:59.57\00:48:04.98
you have this lineage, you know,
the limited lineage from from
Jesus Christ to the
00:48:04.98\00:48:13.89
apostles in the first century
and then and then around the 3rd
or 4th century, you can
00:48:13.89\00:48:18.76
see that there's a compromise
that takes place. And then the
emergence of the bishop of
00:48:18.76\00:48:24.57
Rome and the and then the
papacy. But during that time you
have the church and hiding
00:48:24.57\00:48:29.37
and you're absolutely right.
Those educational process that
preserved. But then the Bible
00:48:29.37\00:48:33.31
indicates that after 17, 98,
when the deadly wounded, that
the the church would become
00:48:33.31\00:48:42.05
visible again and couldn't and
would be called the remnants
which have the testimony of
00:48:42.05\00:48:46.45
Jesus keep the Commandments of
God and so forth and and that
the church would be visible
00:48:46.45\00:48:51.16
again, not believe court my
study of scripture that it is
the Bible Church of, you know,
00:48:51.16\00:48:56.83
the biblical Church of Bible
prophecy that keep all 10 of
God's commandment, including
00:48:56.83\00:49:00.84
the Bible Sabbath. And so And
and it's interesting that the 7
day having a church in
00:49:00.84\00:49:06.64
prostitution today has the
largest. Formal educational
system in the world in the
00:49:06.64\00:49:14.05
world and see the Roman Catholic
Church system of education and
00:49:14.05\00:49:18.62
then you had the avenues church
as well. And and you can see
that the the power of education
00:49:18.62\00:49:26.86
ease is something that that
really helps us to preserve the
legacy. Now, look, I'll be
00:49:26.86\00:49:31.03
I'll be upfront with you.
Education. It takes a long time.
00:49:31.03\00:49:40.61
In terms of the investment. I
mean, you think about our bright
for years. In college where I
00:49:40.61\00:49:47.98
believe it was an institutional
striving to follow you can't
microwave it, right, right. I
00:49:47.98\00:49:56.52
mean, it took and Lord knows I
needed to for years, not
everyone. But I mean, I have
00:49:56.52\00:49:58.93
with issues. I mean, I lord help
me. And so for me to, you know,
but, you know, I needed that. I
00:49:58.93\00:50:05.73
needed that. And became
foundation of those those
building blocks became
00:50:05.73\00:50:12.67
foundational. >> for form where
where we are today by the grace
of God. >> Where we are today.
00:50:12.67\00:50:17.38
And so it's a it's an
investment. It takes time. It
takes energy. I'm sure Jesus
00:50:17.38\00:50:23.69
faced certain frustrations with
his 12 disciples. You can see
the nuances of that. It's like
00:50:23.69\00:50:27.22
how many times I've to tell you
know, to me. But but the
patients of that and when you
00:50:27.22\00:50:32.39
pour your life into somebody
else and you essentially
duplicate yourself. But even
00:50:32.39\00:50:38.00
beyond that, they enhance it and
they grow and they really build
on it and they take it
00:50:38.00\00:50:41.97
to levels that you would never
dreamed about. That's the power
of education to change
00:50:41.97\00:50:46.64
the world. And I believe that
there is going to be a
generation and that is
00:50:46.64\00:50:53.15
translated without seeing that
are going to be a product. It
may not even be formal but a
00:50:53.15\00:50:59.22
product of a communion with God
that it can prepare them for
that moment. There's
00:50:59.22\00:51:04.03
really good. Prepare them for
that moment by the grace of Yes.
00:51:04.03\00:51:07.40
>> So I know we've got a few
more minutes here and they have
to purchase or into the
00:51:07.40\00:51:10.00
second hour. But I'm Pastor
David, about someone right now,
this is I don't have the
00:51:10.00\00:51:15.04
opportunity to attend avenues,
formal education institution. My
only option is public
00:51:15.04\00:51:21.48
school. Yes, what do I do
because you mentioned earlier
about if your education is
00:51:21.48\00:51:25.51
kind of pointing the wrong
direction will in some schools,
00:51:25.51\00:51:29.25
I even had to say that some
Christian schools can also put
the wrong way to. So what would
00:51:29.25\00:51:32.89
someone do? What would you
council be to them? You know, we
have a story. In the book of
00:51:32.89\00:51:42.26
Daniel. Of Daniel Granule was in
the University of Write you more
babylonian than that right at
00:51:42.26\00:51:49.67
the University of Avalon. If you
talk about come out of
Babylon's, Daniel when in
00:51:49.67\00:51:55.98
doubt a lot. All right. he was
put there and >> and he took a
00:51:55.98\00:51:59.78
stand. It took a stand. So God
may be calling you to be a
Daniel in whatever institution
00:51:59.78\00:52:06.92
that you're in and not just an
for the right, though, the
heavens fall. Now looking at it,
00:52:06.92\00:52:11.69
he went to the babylonian
captive cafeteria. And it's
Michelin-star chefs Yeah,
00:52:11.69\00:52:19.47
right. And they're all tossing
in things like that. And it's
just like every type of thing
00:52:19.47\00:52:22.90
from the King's table. And he
says that is not going in my
body. Yeah, because my body is
00:52:22.90\00:52:27.91
temple of God. So you need to
cooperate with God. Yeah, you
can't compromise or Prince
00:52:27.91\00:52:33.72
case. He could have said look,
when in Babylon DUIs, the
Babylonians do and how this
00:52:33.72\00:52:40.16
played high. Well, there will be
no book of Daniel. The reason is
the book of Daniel.
00:52:40.16\00:52:44.13
Yeah, is there's no Daniel
Chapter one. There's no rest of
the book of Daniel other
00:52:44.13\00:52:50.70
Jewish people there as well from
from Jerusalem. And so I would
say to young person,
00:52:50.70\00:52:54.67
look, it's going to be hard. In
a different environment, but
it's not impossible. But
00:52:54.67\00:52:59.84
Daniel. And you cannot
compromise in order to get I
sometimes I think like we
00:52:59.84\00:53:09.38
believe in God. Until we open
our checkbook, we become
agnostic, you know, maybe
00:53:09.38\00:53:17.53
atheist. You know, it's like
believe in God, believe that we
open our checkbook and we
00:53:17.53\00:53:20.90
operate like we don't believe in
God anymore is that we believe
00:53:20.90\00:53:22.80
in miracles. We believe in the
tiny principle. >> It's the same
thing with educational system or
00:53:22.80\00:53:28.30
our educational endeavors. We
think like, oh, I believe in God
until my textbook or let's
00:53:28.30\00:53:33.04
say, I need to study. When I
should really be in church and
more. I study instead of
00:53:33.04\00:53:40.58
having my morning devotions man
and this is why we need to, like
you said, surrender
00:53:40.58\00:53:46.82
our education to the Lord Jesus
and be like Lord, I'm going to
00:53:46.82\00:53:49.92
I'm gonna step out and face. I'm
going to dedicate my life to the
Lord Jesus and I'm not going to
00:53:49.92\00:53:56.33
compromise. I'm not going to
take a test on a day that the
got declared Holy right take a
00:53:56.33\00:54:01.60
stand for this. I'm not going
compromise my moral convictions
00:54:01.60\00:54:06.61
in the social arena of the
foolishness that takes place
sometimes on campuses. And I'm
00:54:06.61\00:54:10.21
not going to compromise in order
to get a career, you can be like
Daniels. He like Lord, I would
00:54:10.21\00:54:16.28
trust you and take a stand.
Bible says in a chapter one and
the Lord gave Daniel
00:54:16.28\00:54:22.19
understanding, you know, the
teacher and he says, and he
Daniel and understanding in
00:54:22.19\00:54:26.83
all visions and dreams. And so
these guys came out Magna coup
00:54:26.83\00:54:32.47
plot. >> came out like on top. I
mean, they went to Princeton and
Harvard and Yale and came
00:54:32.47\00:54:36.10
out on top because they put God
first. And so that's what I
would tell that young person
00:54:36.10\00:54:43.11
that's good says I call, you
know, I can't go to a Christian
school. Will gun may
00:54:43.11\00:54:45.11
be calling you to be a Daniel
and I think a stand but regained
chapter one. Read the
00:54:45.11\00:54:49.95
whole book of Daniel and
recognize that if the Lord is
going to bless you, you've got
00:54:49.95\00:54:54.16
to got to cooperate with them.
It's got to be bilateral. That's
good. Not unilateral.
00:54:54.16\00:54:59.83
Yeah. You know, it takes to fix,
too. So got takes a step. You
respond and then got
00:54:59.83\00:55:03.80
initiate your response. >> And
then, yeah. What about the loss
00:55:03.80\00:55:11.57
philosophical underpinning,
though, of the babylonian
educational system? So Daniel
00:55:11.57\00:55:15.01
stood for truth isn't I'm not
going to file my body I'm going
to stand like and then you want.
00:55:15.01\00:55:19.85
Yes. But what about? And clearly
he was taught the understanding.
he learned all the trees, right?
00:55:19.85\00:55:27.32
Yeah. It's all a tree and
other thing. Yeah. >> How do you
00:55:27.32\00:55:29.89
handle that? >> You know. Daniel
didn't apply for the University
of Babylon. He was put there so
00:55:29.89\00:55:40.64
you can make sure that like some
people say I have no other
options. You really have
00:55:40.64\00:55:42.67
no other options. All right. And
you need to be a call. So Daniel
was yeah. Put there.
00:55:42.67\00:55:48.68
And so I wouldn't say. If you
have a better option and can get
a Christian education, I
00:55:48.68\00:55:55.05
would I would do it because
Daniel stood strong, but we need
to be very, very careful.
00:55:55.05\00:56:03.32
That we're not letting. The
philosophies impinge on
scripture. I believe the
00:56:03.32\00:56:11.03
Daniel spending a lot of time in
You can filter out the into the
ideology is that was in
00:56:11.03\00:56:18.34
consistent with the word of God
and this needs to be your
filter. Now it's tell a person
00:56:18.34\00:56:21.18
that they feel called to. >> Do
it to an institution that
doesn't hold up Christian
00:56:21.18\00:56:25.95
beliefs. You need to spend a
whole lot more time in here. So
this becomes your framework
00:56:25.95\00:56:30.39
of understanding biblical truth
and then be able to filter
filter down. So Daniel.
00:56:30.39\00:56:36.93
Yeah, he was able to do it >>
but I'll tell you the same time
you place an 18 year-old
00:56:36.93\00:56:43.83
at the feet of an intellectual.
And many times. I'll be honest.
00:56:43.83\00:56:51.54
no chance. I even students. Mike
last look, I mean, look like I'm
18, but I'm not. he is like,
00:56:51.54\00:56:57.55
professor, look, look. >> I've
gone through these things. A
00:56:57.55\00:57:03.69
million times. All right. For
the past 20 years and I sit
there and I stacked the deck. I
00:57:03.69\00:57:06.86
lay out that, you know, I lay
out the cards and I leave them
down. And then they're like, oh,
00:57:06.86\00:57:12.09
yeah, that's the logic.
Occlusion watches. Set you up.
You know, not intentionally
00:57:12.09\00:57:15.03
because I believe it's biblical
truth, right? But you have other
individuals that can do the
00:57:15.03\00:57:17.97
same Absolutely. >> There's so
much more to come. We have one
00:57:17.97\00:57:23.54
more hour as we talk about
learning for eternity. What a
gift. What up France? The
00:57:23.54\00:57:30.25
lunches hours to spend time at
the feet Jesus. Learning from
the master teacher to know
00:57:30.25\00:57:37.42
whether you are in school right
now or not, you can have an
education for Don't go away.
00:57:37.42\00:57:44.66
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