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I'm Sheli Quinn. I'm
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Jake. Well and we welcome you to
use 3 A B life. And now have an
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incredible program tonight. It
is not only compelling, but it
is cautionary. We're going to be
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talking about counterfeit
reality and how to escape. The
counterfeit reality. Our
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special guest, you want to
introduce? >> Yes, this is a
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blot. Most call Scott Scott Ris
a month, right? ripped them up.
And if you spell it, it's just
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the way that you pronounce it. I
was working on that rehearsing
and, you know, I got that.
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>> Haha. >> Scott is one of the
smart young man. There's just
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fun to be around. You know, it
seems like you really been
paying attention for the last 20
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years anyway, 15 years. Yeah.
About >> Well, I'll tell you
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what I think is exciting. You
have to dinosaurs from the sick
with you. And that's what I'll
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call a says, the But then we
have this man who is the speaker
director from Built of Truth
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Ministries. He's also a 3, a
bean. glamour. He hosts a
program called digital but
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we're going to get into. Look at
what happened to Scott Spring.
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He has more information. I could
just push the button and letting
go. He has studied how Satan
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manipulates the media, the
social media and everything
that's going on. And what is
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happening not just to but as he
has a particular passion. What's
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happening with her children and
how they're being drawn into
this Think where no one knows
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what is truth, what's reality or
not? So we'll be addressing all
of that. I just really want to
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recommend that you get Pan Pace
paper. He's going to have
fascinating statistics. Great
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instruction for all of us, but
particularly for parents and
grandparents. How you can
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protect your children. And this
is something that very relevant
to our day. We see so
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much going on. But Scott, just
again, thank you for being here.
Thanks for having me.
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It's a blessing to be back at
3ABN. >> And what a joy to sit
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down and talk about some of the
most important things there are
to talk about. And that is
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our children, their future and
God's plan for them. >> Amen.
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>> Think what I like about Scott
is it seems like in your studies
because you initially
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were a teacher, yes, right? Yes.
And so paying attention at that
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at that particular age, you have
in your children that you really
love. You were able to pay
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attention and start connecting
dots. >> And he is and and
fresh. Well, whatever you can
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connect dots, you like to be
kind of person because most of
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us have questions. >> But were
either not wired a certain way,
but we don't really know. Well,
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how come how calm? And we really
don't want to take that energy
to find out how calm. But you're
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one of those who came along that
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magical fingers and she's going
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so much. E T this
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is a woman who is for its She's
got a passion for listening to
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God it doing. She responds very
quickly and got directs its
amazing, beautiful song. Thank
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you so much. We're so glad that
you have to us for tonight. We
have a ferry. Interesting
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inspiring. And as I said,
compelling cautionary tale
tonight. How about escaping
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counterfeit reality. Our is
speaker director tells the Truth
Ministry Scott rips a month. And
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Scott, before we kick this off.
I would like it if we could go
back into the past. Talk a
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little bit about you're growing
up how you can us a child when
it became real for you. Your
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passion for Jesus and the
truth and just kind of give us a
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little background. >> You know,
like I had the privilege of
growing up in a Christian home,
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we were in church every week.
And in fact, not just in church.
I sometimes when I speak at
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churches now I have to jab out
on the Adam a little bit and
say, you know, this idea of
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coming to it 10, 50 service at
11, 15 or 11, we were in church
5 minutes early every
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Sunday. we weren't there early
or late. And so there was there
was much yet to learn.
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And but I do value that early
introduction. 2, who Jesus is
and that there's a creator,
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God that Jesus is coming again.
I grew up understanding and
believing that the clouds
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of heaven will part and he will
come So there's so much to the
value there it became
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problematic a bit as I do
proceeded into the teen years
and the world was alluring
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like so many young people. >>
You know, the things of mom and
dad and church and the
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Christian school teacher. >> And
cut doesn't compare Dow cool.
This band is or how fun
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this violent video game is R The
Hollywood movies and it all
starts captivating. I
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think probably many people of
your viewers have had that
experience and I I would not
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say that I was walking with the
Lord during those teen years and
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got so actually immersed in in
the music. The worldly music
began playing at got a bass
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guitar, started a band with some
friends and we were just rocking
out to our ears were bashed in
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head, banging and everything in
the 1990's with the alternative
rock in the punk rock and
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listening to every form of on
thing you can imagine and then
playing and performing at 10
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the oh. So you know, that's a
that's a detour from the Lord's
plan where, you know,
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you think that that's going to
bring to have to fulfil. You
know, that's going to bring
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joy when in the end, I remember
when I was, you know, sneaking
out and doing things
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I shouldn't do I go to bed at
night and I'm 15 years old. 16
years old and I would feel
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pangs of conscience. I would
feel, you know, when numbing it
with doing all that
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worldliness, you don't think
about it in in the moment. But
those quiet moments. The Holy
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Spirit is speaking. >> Well,
because you had had seeds of
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Exum, good seed planted. And so
holy Spirit could to
remembrance. What you've heard.
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That's the Bible truth. And it
will not return. And you know, I
had some theological
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misunderstandings, though, at
that time. I thought as long as
I went to bed after saying your
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God, please forgive me for my
son's name and go to sleep. Get
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up the next day. >> With no
intention to do anything
different. Then I had the day
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before. It's not a true
conversion from self and
self-seeking to the glory of
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God. So I I actually thought
that during those rebellious
teen years, I thought that I'm
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in a safe condition because
after I deliberately willfully
rebel against God daily. I ask
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forgiveness at the end of the
day. And so we're good, right?
Is that is that the Christian
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theology that it's going to give
the itching, ears what it wants
to hear. So, you know, it really
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a dramatic turning that I guess
what what the word repentance
really means is to turn turning
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from the old ways and the old
life and having a different
identity surrender to God and
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for young people brought that
about. >> From. You know, for me
is when the Bible really started
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to come alive. And it's, you
know, sometimes I think we
tempts our young people into
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worldliness when we present the
bible in a way where it's where
it's dry and the adults
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in your life aren't really that
enthusiastic about their face
witnessing wasn't isn't
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happening so much an. When I
discovered incredible things
about Bible history, about
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Bible prophecy. You start to
say, wow, this is very, very
credible. And I voice like to
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think about things from an
analytical and historical
perspective. I get that from
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my mom. She's always been a a
bit of an unconventional
thinker. And my grandpa was a
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a late historian, basically. And
so when that when I started
seeing wow, the Bible
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is really action. Actually an
amazing book. I gave it a
chance. I had never really
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studied it wait a minute. Hit
the pause. But could you just
painted this picture of this
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head banging? >> Yeah. Rocking
kit. Haven't got get your
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attention to get you into the
Bible. Was someone a teacher?
Did someone come along who
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introduced the streets to you in
a buy Opel way. >> Yeah, it was
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a number of steps. I'm one of
them was just being out in
nature. That was the first
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domino to fall and it was in a
youth camp setting being out in
God's creation. The music is
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left at home. And, you know, we
talk about this when we get into
the media about nature being
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antidote for so much of And it
was the conviction was not
something that could continue
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to be swept away where you just
go back and forth to the please
forgive me. I'm a rebel
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again anyway. And it was I'm
surrendering all and I'm not
listening to that music
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anymore. I'm not participating
with that worldliness anymore
because I just really sense
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that the Lord was near and
leading me and asking me to do
that. And there's nothing I
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can too, but say yes to that.
And then subsequent to that it
was growing up into that with
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the Bible coming alive and truly
walking into that. So it's not a
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momentary no emotional thing. It
was a real depth of the
scriptures. As you mentioned,
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somebody teaching and leading. I
listen to prophecy meetings. I
listen to. But Bible studies in
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sermons about the history of the
Bible times. And those kinds of
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things were really what captured
me to personally pursuant study
the Bible personally want to
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actually teach these things
because I was training to be a
teacher at the time. This is now
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up on into the early college
years. And I was studying
history as majoring in history
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at the time. And I learned a
little bit about the the 4th
commandment and the change
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from the first day of the week
to the 7th day of the week that
transpired in early
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Christianity would be get a set
of commitments Remember the
Sabbath day to keep it
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holy. And when I when I was
introduced to me as a as a part
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of this process, I thought
there's no way you know that
that all of Christianity just
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got that wrong. When did it
change? Where did it change? Why
did it change? How did it
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change? Who changed it? And so
that pursuit of that history. I
stayed one night. I don't
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recommend this, but I was so
intrigued to dig into this. I
stayed up all night one night
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and was reading through this
history, trying to understand
the nature of that site. It
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was it was engrossing. I
couldn't put it down. And that
with that was part of it. The
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history of this out of the
history of prophecy. And then
what's coming next. And that
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really lays a responsibility on
our laps that God is asking us
to prepare people for his
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soon coming that these are
urgent and sober times. And the
Bible says that now is
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says in Romans chapter 13, that
now is the time to awake and out
of sleep awake and out
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of our stupor. For his coming is
nearer than when we first
believed the men. So you had
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the >> Hart Awakening. When
you are at a Christian cam. Yes.
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And you decided you were going
to Now you are studying. Yeah.
You mentioned that you are
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going to church every Sunday.
At what point is God is leading.
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You. We've been showing the 7th
Day Adventist Church. >> You
know, that was a number
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of years later. Actually, I was
understanding the 7th Day
Sabbath, just as a doctor and
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Bible teaching not being
associated with a denominational
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affiliation at that time. But it
was really I was it was human
pride at that point. It was a
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you know, I kind of want to do
what I want to do on the 7th.
They sure I won't go to work.
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And I want study my homework.
But I'll go do whatever I wanted
to. I didn't know about the
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Isaiah Passage that says seeking
your own pleasure on his holy
day. And so that's what I was
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doing. Taking my own pleasure
holy Day. So there was some
steps yet to take. And that
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was few years really went by
before before the Lord revealed
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to me what's in revelation, 12
14 and 13 relation 13 talks
about what the mark of the beast
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crisis is going to be. And so
these issues about worship in
God's law are going to take
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center stage and are very
important. And then you see the
3 Angels messages in revelation,
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14 and you see the identity of
the remnant Church of Bible
prophecy and revelation 12. So
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in that all finally came
together, that would be around
2008 is when my wife and I
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were married and I was now
married at this point. And we we
we continued our journey
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with the Lord Jesus into the 7th
Day Adventists movement after,
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you know, it's so interesting.
she a white person? Yes. So
you've got to why people? Yes,
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exact. I'm a white person. Yeah,
everything has to you know, I'm
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and I'm a linear. >> When you
talk about connecting the dots,
I have to connect all the dots.
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When I studied. And it's
interesting because, you know, I
was the 7th keeper for 2 years
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before ever. Became a 7th day
Adventists. Yeah. As frankly, I
thought they were cope. I
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didn't know anything about them.
And I was investigating. But God
called me to full-time
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ministry and he told me to
forecast what I thought. I knew
that he would teach me
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when I went to the Bible and
began studying and realize
commitments the cross, no, God
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brought me and I'm out teaching
these things kind of like you
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said. But I didn't know about it
in a straight line. And all the
truce that got us me come to
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find out was something that the
ad thinnest also taught. So you
and look and let me interject
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something right here because
this is a teachable moment right
now. >> Was racing the cell to
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Got a white person. I'm not a
white person. Should have been
but I was witnessing she was
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she was searching since I was in
a white person. I have no idea
why. parents. We're so
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did costs without So please,
parents, listen to this teach
your children. You know, don't
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get upset. Want when you have a
child says, well, why? Well,
why? You know, there are
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independent thinkers, others
they just follow along. It's
this is really kind of ironic.
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Yeah, but not here. You've got
to want people. >> And God. that
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is, you know, I always tell
people I was the 7th and minutes
before ever talk to the 7th. And
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then as before or during the
church. >> So the same for some
So now you go when you first
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started get teaching in the 7th
and the new school. Tell >> What
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how catapulted you from being a
I teacher in 2 a preacher Oh,
There's a there's a few steps on
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that journey and we were talking
earlier was like it was like
Lily pad says what JD said.
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>> Leaping from here to here.
And I guess, you know that the
frog analogy is a good one
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because we're all under under
God is working on a strike. We
go from from swimming in the
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water and you've got the legs
and a tail and then you move on
up and you're leaping as a
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frog. And so that's something
God wants to do in each one of
our lives. What is he going to
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do with you That's always the
question we need to be asking.
And at the time that I came
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into these understandings of
prophecy and Bible Truth, 7th
Day, Adventists truth. I was
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teaching history and government
and economics and I had been for
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4 and a number of years. I had
taught in public schools and
charter schools in in Christian
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schools that are non
denominational. at when I was
teaching these things, it was it
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was quite something to be
involved with. My fellow
teachers as they were seeing.
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Okay. What is Scott into not?
What is he talking about? Check
this out. You know, that kind of
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thing. And there was a moment
where I was transitioning out of
teaching. The last school was at
00:23:36.64\00:23:40.85
a charter school. So its public
schools where you're not
supposed to talk religion in
00:23:40.85\00:23:43.92
the classroom, but I would teach
world history. And so I would
teach the history of the
00:23:43.92\00:23:47.92
reformation and, you know,
histories that are objective and
factual untrue. Students
00:23:47.92\00:23:52.13
began asking me questions. They
come at lunch. What is what is
teacher reformer, a
00:23:52.13\00:23:58.67
teach? How is different in this
in my friend as of this and what
does that mean? So we
00:23:58.67\00:24:00.54
have to start having these
lunchtime, voluntary Bible
studies basically looking at
00:24:00.54\00:24:06.07
history and looking at the
different movements of truth in
the development of truth
00:24:06.07\00:24:09.98
over time through the
reformation and on through
history. And then a tragedy
00:24:09.98\00:24:13.15
happened at that school, a
student. It was a small school,
00:24:13.15\00:24:18.02
but a student is killed in a car
accident going into her senior
year. It was something that I
00:24:18.02\00:24:21.29
was not prepared for because I
was so wet behind the ears, if
you will, as far as witnessing.
00:24:21.29\00:24:29.23
They that I was I was there at
school in the summer in the
morning when the news came in.
00:24:29.23\00:24:33.74
And everybody who was there was
grieving for this girl who had
been killed for her
00:24:33.74\00:24:37.17
family. Her mother was the
secretary of the school. >> And
00:24:37.17\00:24:42.74
>> we're going, oh, wow, that
must be what they are going
through. I came in. Imagine.
00:24:42.74\00:24:47.98
She comes stumbling into the
school the next morning. She
hasn't slept all She's coming
00:24:47.98\00:24:51.39
to work. This is summer school.
Hardly anybody. Is there. The
assistant principal
00:24:51.39\00:24:57.03
comes and grabs me. She says so.
And so is here. You need to go
talk to her. She needs
00:24:57.03\00:25:02.96
spiritual counsel because I had
wanted on my sleeve that I was a
Christian. So she's
00:25:02.96\00:25:07.87
like, where's a Christian? She's
going to need somebody's of
faith. And when I went into
00:25:07.87\00:25:13.84
that room with a couple of the
staff of the school, it was it
was it. It was a moment where
00:25:13.84\00:25:21.68
I realized that witnessing in
ministering to souls is of
higher value. Then all the
00:25:21.68\00:25:28.19
interesting academic pursuits
and teaching said I can do in
economics and whatever,
00:25:28.19\00:25:34.30
because she looked at me with
the most pain in anybody's eyes
have ever imagined and
00:25:34.30\00:25:37.93
said why Scott, why did God do
this and what would you say that
guess you want to give a
00:25:37.93\00:25:48.08
whole Bible study on the origin
of evil and that an enemy has
done this and it's a
00:25:48.08\00:25:53.35
ton to sow the seeds of
destruction in the parable of
the weeds and wheat that we
00:25:53.35\00:25:58.85
tears. I'm not really the time
to do an intellectual
philosophical treatise on why
00:25:58.85\00:26:03.26
there's evil in pain and
suffering universe God is all
powerful and all loving it.
00:26:03.26\00:26:09.70
These are these are questions
that take some time to study
through. So I simply shared
00:26:09.70\00:26:13.47
with her. I say a 63 verse 9.
And I said. In our affliction,
God is afflicted. I'd sit in
00:26:13.47\00:26:20.98
your affliction. I was afflicted
the men. And so he's right here
00:26:20.98\00:26:26.75
with you and the pain of this
moment. And they had that was as
far as we went at that time. But
00:26:26.75\00:26:31.39
subsequently to that students
had questions. What's going on
with how do we understand
00:26:31.39\00:26:37.16
this? So they started meeting. I
asked the administration, can I
meet with them Kiper
00:26:37.16\00:26:42.60
mission to meet with them when
they said we can't do it at the
school, we open up our
00:26:42.60\00:26:45.20
house. My wife and I cleared out
the furniture in the living room
00:26:45.20\00:26:48.10
because we got flooded with
sizable portion of the school
coming over to listen. A Bible
00:26:48.10\00:26:54.21
studies on the full teaching of
what his got character. How do
we understand evil pain and
00:26:54.21\00:26:58.55
suffering? We did weekly Bible
studies and then that led to
wanting to do evangelism
00:26:58.55\00:27:03.69
preach. The prophecies are local
pastor said you'd like an
opportunity to preach these
00:27:03.69\00:27:09.62
things. So I got to do
evangelists to meetings and then
a Bible teaching position
00:27:09.62\00:27:12.33
opened up at the local have been
a stuck at me and I said, hey,
can I throw my hat in the
00:27:12.33\00:27:16.36
ring for that? Because I'm
loving this stuff. they said,
well, you have a Bible degree.
00:27:16.36\00:27:21.87
No, I've history and master's in
social sciences and well, no,
you can't teach 5 of them,
00:27:21.87\00:27:27.68
OK? Well, then they get back to
me. Actually, we've got an
exception. We're going to move
00:27:27.68\00:27:32.41
you toward a Bible. A
certificate. Just got to start
your studying now with them.
00:27:32.41\00:27:34.12
And we're going to interview for
the position. I was able to
teach Bible they now for a
00:27:34.12\00:27:37.72
few years, which is just a great
joy. Yeah, but now you had.
00:27:37.72\00:27:42.62
>> Even in Christian schools,
you're beginning to notice. In
00:27:42.62\00:27:51.23
Merced. >> Our new generations
are yes, in media, social media.
Games and all of this. Tell us
00:27:51.23\00:28:00.24
about the effect you are seeing
on your student. >> So that was
00:28:00.24\00:28:03.45
a shock because a lot of times
when you get fired up about
prophecy in your likes the
00:28:03.45\00:28:07.82
remnant Church of Bible
prophecy. And you get this
elevated view and then you
00:28:07.82\00:28:12.02
forgot to read revelation,
Chapter 3, which talks about and
how we are really struggling. We
00:28:12.02\00:28:14.79
need to wake up. Call it. We all
need a wake-up call that I saw
my students really struggling
00:28:14.79\00:28:19.96
with temptation that allure to
the world. media like I had
struggled with and frankly,
00:28:19.96\00:28:24.47
media consumption that was
happening was no different from
the public schools and
00:28:24.47\00:28:28.94
other schools. Tonight tot at.
And so it was really a desire.
>> So out, I want and I want
00:28:28.94\00:28:34.41
to underline that put
exclamation point just because
you are sending your child 2
00:28:34.41\00:28:41.52
for Christian education, which
we believe is so important.
don't think that they are to
00:28:41.52\00:28:50.79
the influences that are
happening too. Their age group
to the World Cup. Yes, so
00:28:50.79\00:28:58.37
true. And so I wanted to kind
of put a mirror up against their
00:28:58.37\00:29:02.17
own. >> Use of time. And I did a
survey an anonymous survey. I
asked them how much time are
00:29:02.17\00:29:05.44
you spending on, you know,
worldly media and I just to find
that like you said as
00:29:05.44\00:29:10.15
video games, violent video games
only and Hollywood
entertainment. It's a very
00:29:10.15\00:29:13.98
narrow definition of media
consumption. But estimate how
many hours a week this past
00:29:13.98\00:29:18.55
week you spent on violent video
games and Hollywood
entertainment and then also
00:29:18.55\00:29:24.76
take inventory of how much time
he spent in God's word are other
00:29:24.76\00:29:29.10
spiritual books or any why
definition of spiritual pursuits
going for a walk in nature
00:29:29.10\00:29:32.50
prayer, you name it. Qualify
that. And we're going to compare
the 2 and I collected the data
00:29:32.50\00:29:40.58
anonymously. This is not a witch
hunt. We had a great
relationship through this, it
00:29:40.58\00:29:43.31
was a 25 to one ratio for every
one hour that they were in the
word. 25 hours in the
00:29:43.31\00:29:49.35
world. Wow. That was a shock to
me to them. I think they don't
realize they didn't
00:29:49.35\00:29:54.59
realize how deep that really was
until those numbers came in. And
so that actually led
00:29:54.59\00:29:59.19
to me teaching on media to my
own students to help them
understand the effects of
00:29:59.19\00:30:03.53
these things. >> And then
you began industry you had a
00:30:03.53\00:30:07.47
question great questions about
his spell truth Ministries. >>
Well, I was what reporters
00:30:07.47\00:30:12.17
have come from, what I know
where it comes from, you know,
but I mean, or did it come
00:30:12.17\00:30:13.94
from how to fit into where you
were at that particular time?
But we know the armor of God.
00:30:13.94\00:30:20.52
And we put on the full armor of
God and one of those implements
00:30:20.52\00:30:23.89
one of those emblems on the
armor of God is the belt. >>
Turning up the loins with
00:30:23.89\00:30:28.16
the truth. And the belt is
actually a key part of the armor
of God in the ancient
00:30:28.16\00:30:33.09
Roman regalia that their
military gear, you might think a
belt. Isn't that important?
00:30:33.09\00:30:36.13
Like let me pick a cooler one
like a sword. But the belt is
where the sword would would
00:30:36.13\00:30:40.24
hang where the breastplate would
be linked in to where it was. It
was kind of the center
00:30:40.24\00:30:43.67
point for it. All. And isn't
that who Jesus is? He is the way
the truth and the life.
00:30:43.67\00:30:49.41
Hey. So that's that's kind of
the meaning behind the concept,
but that there's more
00:30:49.41\00:30:53.98
to the story as well as we as we
go forward. You bet and help.
Here's here's the deal.
00:30:53.98\00:30:59.02
And >> Is when Scott made that
transition and started belting
00:30:59.02\00:31:05.39
Truth. Ministry said, you know
what? I don't. I think you are
just still brand new and
00:31:05.39\00:31:11.17
somebody sent me the whole media
on the brain. Wasn't that your
first series? I was
00:31:11.17\00:31:16.17
the one may on the brain makes
it. You got Here's this guy. So
you really have got a lot
00:31:16.17\00:31:22.31
of research. You are putting it
out there. It is a fascinating
00:31:22.31\00:31:29.95
study of media on the brain
that's available still available
well as relevant as ever.
00:31:29.95\00:31:34.26
Really. I mean, you think these
things are becoming chance, but
we're dealing with media now
00:31:34.26\00:31:36.06
more than ever. >> Now. Let's
transition because we promised
00:31:36.06\00:31:41.36
on this wonderful, compelling
information tonight. >> Here's
00:31:41.36\00:31:45.97
my thought. In revelation, 13
verse 8. John, the revelator
rights also dwell on the Earth
00:31:45.97\00:31:54.68
says revelation 13 per se also
well on the earth. All. Well
worship. Can the beast whose
00:31:54.68\00:32:04.29
names have not been written in
the book of Life of the Dam.
That was slain from the
00:32:04.29\00:32:09.76
foundation of the world. >> He's
talking about the based and he's
00:32:09.76\00:32:16.40
talking about those who don't
know the truth, how they are
going to be DC does Jesus said
00:32:16.40\00:32:21.50
in Matthew. 24. Do not be
deceived. There's going to be
false profits. There's going
00:32:21.50\00:32:27.28
to be people who walk around
like they are counterfeiting.
Message. And then here's the
00:32:27.28\00:32:35.92
interesting thing. Satan. The
Bible says. Our enemy is like a
lion. All right. line who
00:32:35.92\00:32:49.20
seeks to the May devour? You
know what? I think it's talking
00:32:49.20\00:32:55.44
about his appetite because that
is much more subtle in his
approach to us. And he's always
00:32:55.44\00:33:00.68
use deception from the beginning
when he deceived But how do you
when you think of a counterfeit
00:33:00.68\00:33:07.65
you can't be does seedbed if you
know what the real McCoy is, a
man. But the deception and
00:33:07.65\00:33:15.42
people who are deceived don't
know their deceit because what
say does is he takes 85% truth
00:33:15.42\00:33:23.50
and many billions in 15 person
air. So talk to us about your
seminars, Bible prophecy.
00:33:23.50\00:33:31.31
Let's just get going on.
Tonight's top. >> You know, it's
00:33:31.31\00:33:35.84
a media on the brain was the
first foray into speaking in
churches and doing seminars for
00:33:35.84\00:33:41.28
those very reasons because we
want to unmask the enemy's
deceptions and how he will use
00:33:41.28\00:33:45.62
Hollywood, how he will use the
entertainment industry, how he
will use even big tech and all
00:33:45.62\00:33:49.59
sorts of media avenues to
deceive the masses and prepare
the world for his final
00:33:49.59\00:33:54.00
deception. But, you know, really
the hope and the truth. As you
00:33:54.00\00:33:58.17
mentioned, we are settled into
the truth. I like talking about
other things like to education,
00:33:58.17\00:34:06.21
parenting nature, exposure in
these positive things, some of
which we get into in digital
00:34:06.21\00:34:10.05
disconnect. So, you know, when
we are naming the ministry Belt
of Truth, Hey, should we
00:34:10.05\00:34:14.98
call the ministry media on the
brink? Because that was the
first seminar. And that's all
00:34:14.98\00:34:17.42
we had at that point. Well, you
know, I don't really want to be
just only on that topic
00:34:17.42\00:34:22.69
only so always call it something
about truth. Yes, melt of truth
00:34:22.69\00:34:26.43
because then that can open
things wind up in wherever the
Lord's word wants to speak to
00:34:26.43\00:34:33.00
our present times and our and
our areas where we need to hear
his voice. We can go there. So,
00:34:33.00\00:34:38.37
yeah, that's kind of odd that
the beginning Sarah media on the
brain was was to help
00:34:38.37\00:34:42.14
people awaken to the nature of
the deceptions that are
happening so that we can be
00:34:42.14\00:34:46.31
settled into Bible truth. >> But
let's talk about the term think
00:34:46.31\00:34:52.55
because the scripture says that
all, you know, who are not
written in the name. The in the
00:34:52.55\00:34:58.76
Lamb's book Life. All. Follow
after the space talk about
group. Think, yeah, you know,
00:34:58.76\00:35:08.27
and subsequently in Chapter 13,
a says the whole world's
wondered after the BBC can
00:35:08.27\00:35:12.14
kind of imagine this like a
hypnotized masses. >> Why is
00:35:12.14\00:35:14.71
everybody so drawn to a
deception when the truth is so
clear. So from a historical
00:35:14.71\00:35:21.52
perspective, actually, there
have been mass formation,
events, mass psychosis, if you
00:35:21.52\00:35:25.09
will. There have been
developments of cults. There
have been developments of of
00:35:25.09\00:35:28.66
tyrannies like an Adolf Hitler's
Germany. And so you see in
prophecy that there's going to
00:35:28.66\00:35:34.13
be a global formation of a
deception. And can we learn a
little bit from history and
00:35:34.13\00:35:39.83
can we see how media have been
the founders of modern media
have admitted that they are
00:35:39.83\00:35:43.87
actually set about to do those
very things like take Edward
Bernays, for example, Edward
00:35:43.87\00:35:49.81
Bernays, the founder of Modern
Public Relations. He's the guy
in the 1920's that was forming
00:35:49.81\00:35:53.45
the mass popular culture and how
everything would be
standardized. The advertising
00:35:53.45\00:35:59.59
industry has borne the popular
stars of the day would be given
their script and told
00:35:59.59\00:36:03.79
what to put out there and then
the masses would follow. And
that big that gave us the last
00:36:03.79\00:36:08.60
century of popular culture. Will
Edward Bernays stated in his
book propaganda. He said
00:36:08.60\00:36:14.27
we're the ones that pulled the
wires that control the public
mind. And he said if we
00:36:14.27\00:36:19.14
understand how the public mind
works, we can control the group
mind and they won't even
00:36:19.14\00:36:22.84
know about it. So that's
groupthink. And groupthink is a
term from psychology. And I
00:36:22.84\00:36:29.05
remember learning about that as
a senior in high school, my
sociology class, and we're
00:36:29.05\00:36:32.62
studying group thinking how
Colts work and how those those
type authoritarian societies
00:36:32.62\00:36:38.29
have become so captive to a
nominate leader. And, you know,
God wants to set us free
00:36:38.29\00:36:45.27
from the being captive to man.
It says in cautions to it says
don't be taken captive by
00:36:45.27\00:36:51.91
Halloween deceptive
philosophies. So their agendas
out there seeking to take us
00:36:51.91\00:36:54.74
captive. We will control the
group mind and they won't even
know about it. And Edward
00:36:54.74\00:36:58.31
Bernays also said that our ideas
are suggested our tastes are
formed. Our thoughts are
00:36:58.31\00:37:05.15
implanted in our minds largely
by men. We have never heard of
who he called the invisible
00:37:05.15\00:37:08.22
government. Now that kind of
sounds ominous. That sounds like
some sort of script for
00:37:08.22\00:37:12.09
some, you know, sci-fi thing.
But that's reality. Like
prophecy indicates a truth
00:37:12.09\00:37:16.60
that is stranger than fiction. A
reality that is more intriguing.
00:37:16.60\00:37:22.57
Interesting historically
relevant and presently
prophetic. Then sci-fi scripts
00:37:22.57\00:37:28.18
you could come up with. So
that's one of the things we want
to do is help people come to
00:37:28.18\00:37:32.65
terms with the nature of the
deception and how how how
widespread it can be and how
00:37:32.65\00:37:38.75
easy it can be for the masses to
become taken by it. We don't
even realize you're a part of
00:37:38.75\00:37:43.86
it. You eat your along with the
flow and the current and not
even knowing has ever been a
00:37:43.86\00:37:47.23
set. So kind of take us through
and how jump in and any time.
But >> we're thinking when you
00:37:47.23\00:37:51.77
were talking, I was thinking of
Jim Jones. And formed the call
00:37:51.77\00:37:58.91
to end. They all committed mass
suicide and there are some very
intelligent people. All right.
00:37:58.91\00:38:02.48
What are some of the steps? 2
people What someone wants them
without question. I that's a
00:38:02.48\00:38:13.99
very good question. Scholars
have looked at this and they
they put out certain criteria
00:38:13.99\00:38:17.66
of the immediate context and
scenario that make someone more
00:38:17.66\00:38:22.73
susceptible. >> But one thing
that I really want to bring to
the table from historical
00:38:22.73\00:38:27.17
perspective is the life's
training that leads up to and
mass formation type of event. In
00:38:27.17\00:38:33.61
other words, what kind of media
are we exposed to as children?
What is our educational
00:38:33.61\00:38:38.58
philosophy in the schools? Are
we teaching our children to be
thinkers or mere reflectors of
00:38:38.58\00:38:43.08
other men's thoughts. So when
you look at the Edward Bernays
of the world and you see that
00:38:43.08\00:38:46.09
the media has been full for a
century preparing society in
priming us for falling prey to
00:38:46.09\00:38:53.50
such types of cold events as
that or more widespread global
ones like we read about in
00:38:53.50\00:38:58.60
prophecy. But also the founders
of industrial era Schooling, if
00:38:58.60\00:39:03.64
you will, the modern world. The
schooling philosophy was similar
to what Edward Bernays was just
00:39:03.64\00:39:06.27
saying there when I was
paraphrasing him, we're the ones
that poll the wires that control
00:39:06.27\00:39:10.55
the public mind, the founders of
the schooling philosophy that
emerged around the turn of the
00:39:10.55\00:39:14.95
century. Turn of the night in
the 1900's where is admitting
and saying in their
00:39:14.95\00:39:20.89
publications that what we're
funding here and founding here
is to tots. That's that's
00:39:20.89\00:39:25.96
their words. I've got seminars
on this where you can see all
the quotes. I have to take my
00:39:25.96\00:39:28.83
word for it now. 99 students out
of 100 will be will become
automatons. They will be das.
00:39:28.83\00:39:37.31
find to some people at home.
robots. Yeah, careful to walk in
the prescribed path. The
00:39:37.31\00:39:43.81
quote says careful to follow
prescribed custom. And we want
to be careful to obey God, but
00:39:43.81\00:39:48.82
because we're choosing him
intelligently our children to
obey their parents, but also
00:39:48.82\00:39:54.02
to become thinkers. And that's
what we were getting on to
earlier about us. Really
00:39:54.02\00:39:58.16
understanding the truth that
we're taught as children really
probing and asking the
00:39:58.16\00:40:02.23
tough questions and
understanding the whole biblical
Fiala G behind what
00:40:02.23\00:40:04.97
it is. We believe not just
because I was born into this or
whatever I want to be born
00:40:04.97\00:40:09.54
again. And that involves
accepting the truth for myself.
So those founders of
00:40:09.54\00:40:12.71
modern public schooling and
that's not to impugn any public
school teacher, ice to
00:40:12.71\00:40:18.45
be a public school teacher. And
I would share these quotes with
my students. So they're
00:40:18.45\00:40:20.25
good people in that system. But
they would say things like, you
00:40:20.25\00:40:26.82
know, we want to have the
children collected from private
households and we will shape
00:40:26.82\00:40:30.49
them on the social meeting board
and we will have their there
will be yielding themselves with
00:40:30.49\00:40:35.33
perfect aucilla t to our molding
hands and we don't want them to
become thinkers and scientists
00:40:35.33\00:40:41.30
and and doctors and lawyers and
all these great things. We
simply want them to be das.
00:40:41.30\00:40:47.11
I'll thoughtless and contented.
Those are all quotes like word
00:40:47.11\00:40:48.74
for word. And you think they
actually would say these things
out. They wrote these things.
00:40:48.74\00:40:53.15
This goes back to oppression,
style schooling 100 years before
it came to America and the
00:40:53.15\00:40:58.62
founder, oppression schooling,
Johann Gottlieb said. The goal
here is we will destroy free.
00:40:58.62\00:41:03.56
Well, so they were just come out
and say it little more honest,
maybe back then. But
00:41:03.56\00:41:07.30
some were still dealing with the
legacy of that because when you
00:41:07.30\00:41:10.53
have an education system and of
worldly media system that is
indoctrinating the minds of the
00:41:10.53\00:41:15.67
masses for generations. Then the
final deceptions com or a
societal crisis comes that
00:41:15.67\00:41:24.01
precedes that one particular
called scenario like the Jim
Jones or pick your example
00:41:24.01\00:41:30.72
through history. People are
ready and primed to not have
that individual critical
00:41:30.72\00:41:35.22
thinking capacity to not have
the courage and the 42 to stand
up against and say this is wrong
00:41:35.22\00:41:41.36
because I know from the word of
God, I stand alone on the word
of God. Let me see if I
00:41:41.36\00:41:45.50
can kind of summarize courts
coming to my mind. >> Is that
00:41:45.50\00:41:50.17
what you're saying is the people
who pulling streaks. trying to
make Tama towns are well pots at
00:41:50.17\00:41:58.95
They're trying to conform you.
Yes, and you know, because it
just occurred to me that you may
00:41:58.95\00:42:04.12
be watching said you Christians
are the one who had group-think
00:42:04.12\00:42:11.23
because you're all saying the
same thing. But the point is God
gave us free will a man. What a
00:42:11.23\00:42:20.84
God is so interested in and
detail of your life. But he will
never for shoe and what God
00:42:20.84\00:42:29.28
offers is not conformity. It's
not about conforming to diet or
lifestyle. What got offers is
00:42:29.28\00:42:40.49
a putting a new heart in us
giving us by free will the
choice to walk into dance that
00:42:40.49\00:42:47.83
choice 2 to receive his lab in
their way hit back. So. What
you're saying is it's
00:42:47.83\00:42:58.54
critically important for parents
to understand what they're being
00:42:58.54\00:43:02.24
taught at best for their
children to be being taught it
in public schools are Christian
00:43:02.24\00:43:08.22
schools where ever they need to
learn to become thinkers for
themself to receive got street.
00:43:08.22\00:43:14.46
>> A man and that's Romans. 12
ERs to use alluded to it there.
And if that's do not
00:43:14.46\00:43:19.06
become formed to this world, a
man transformed by the renewing
00:43:19.06\00:43:22.93
of your mind. God wants us to
have an individual might. They
can choose him and serve him and
00:43:22.93\00:43:28.57
fend off the deceptions of the
last days and not get s*****
into those types of events. That
00:43:28.57\00:43:32.74
are so common throughout
history. And we know
prophetically are coming
00:43:32.74\00:43:35.28
globally and it's coming soon.
You know, we see events heating
up a heightening and we know
00:43:35.28\00:43:39.31
that we want to be settled with
with settled into the truth.
Both intellectually and
00:43:39.31\00:43:45.12
spiritually, that we cannot be
moved the price point to the
forehead as the seal deal got.
00:43:45.12\00:43:50.59
>> I think it's very important
that you're bringing out these
points because there's a lot
00:43:50.59\00:43:52.46
of people they probably always
they may be 90. Not even their
thinking and thing called
00:43:52.46\00:44:01.57
really there's not somebody out
there that's really. You know,
part of the strange
00:44:01.57\00:44:07.41
never think really work like
that because, you know, we hear
00:44:07.41\00:44:12.51
and brother, big government,
whether it be in in corporate
world wherever it is. You know,
00:44:12.51\00:44:18.99
that there's oh, well, you know,
there's always a system out
there. >> advertising agencies
00:44:18.99\00:44:24.86
handed down pat down you. See
how they introduced things on
ads that not only become
00:44:24.86\00:44:31.10
accepted, they become popular
and we're seeing some really
interesting ads, but I just was
00:44:31.10\00:44:40.11
thinking tonight we're talking
about escaping the counterfeit.
You win when you doing your
00:44:40.11\00:44:46.98
series digital disconnect, which
by the way airs on 3ABN Sundays
at 05:00AM Tuesday said one PM
00:44:46.98\00:44:56.46
and Wednesdays at 09:30PM, and
working fabulous responses too.
Your messages on digital
00:44:56.46\00:45:02.63
disconnect? You used a
counterfeit reality. I think
that's a fascinating. It's a
00:45:02.63\00:45:15.28
sounds like an oxymoron. us
what, what does that term
counterfeit reality me.
00:45:15.28\00:45:23.69
>> Those who studied the origins
of evil. This great controversy
00:45:23.69\00:45:27.66
between crisis saying are aware
of the fact that he attempted to
be in the position of God in
00:45:27.66\00:45:32.43
heaven. I will. I will ascend. I
will be above the other Angels
eyes. Isaiah 14. I will be like
00:45:32.43\00:45:37.20
the most high. So he wanted to
be got the suffered. It you
can't be because he is a created
00:45:37.20\00:45:44.77
being. So that was a non-starter
from the beginning. God just
00:45:44.77\00:45:49.64
because and I created suffers a
created. He cannot be got. >>
God speaks this world into
00:45:49.64\00:45:53.75
existence in 6 days. You can
imagine how Satan is feeling at
that moment like. I claimed
00:45:53.75\00:46:01.16
I could be in that position. I
can't do. That is his angels are
looking on like sir, can
00:46:01.16\00:46:04.76
you do No, I can't. He could
never create reality. God can
speak the universe into
00:46:04.76\00:46:14.47
existence Galaxy's into
existence this world. Our
consciousness are our breath
00:46:14.47\00:46:17.34
in our Long's our love. He can
create a living Soul. Satan
can't even make matter. He
00:46:17.34\00:46:23.75
can't do any of that. So how are
you going to be a creator? He
can't be. So he set about
00:46:23.75\00:46:29.65
for the next 6,000 years to are
the creation that God made to
mess it up to try to
00:46:29.65\00:46:35.86
destroy the image of God and
man, particularly. And you did
00:46:35.86\00:46:43.60
so by destroying. >> What man
believes anyone in the midst of
what got you got is, you know,
00:46:43.60\00:46:49.47
and what his personality. >>
Yeah. So you create a false con
conception of God in the
00:46:49.47\00:46:51.04
minds of people. We adopt a
false picture of God that
disrupts our relationship with
00:46:51.04\00:46:56.98
God that the severe relationship
of trust and then the cross
00:46:56.98\00:47:01.15
bridges that gap again because
we're saved by faith through the
name of blood of Jesus Christ.
00:47:01.15\00:47:05.32
Well, here we are now at that
final end of this controversy.
According to Daniel 8.14, you
00:47:05.32\00:47:13.26
know, we're in the and now as of
just years ago. Now, here we are
in the final event.
00:47:13.26\00:47:19.83
He's gotten out technological
capacities. To s*** people in to
experience online. Whether
00:47:19.83\00:47:25.87
that be the online video game
portal where there's a whole
narrative and there's a whole
00:47:25.87\00:47:32.58
identity you adopt and you are
in there with your clan in your
Gildan, you're s***** in
00:47:32.58\00:47:36.48
your living there. You're on a
quest. You have purpose to gain
victory over the enemies
00:47:36.48\00:47:40.42
of such and such round and some
fake thing right which he's
always been able to weave
00:47:40.42\00:47:45.59
a dream in people's minds
through fiction novels and
fantasy novels and things like
00:47:45.59\00:47:49.56
that. But when it's visual, it's
captivating the video game or
goes in there and it's
00:47:49.56\00:47:53.90
a counterfeit reality or take
social media, you might say,
well, that's real people.
00:47:53.90\00:47:58.87
You're interacting with real
plane. It's not pretend like
video games are. But what if
00:47:58.87\00:48:03.68
your persona? And there is not
you and you're putting on a
false pretense of an image you
00:48:03.68\00:48:08.78
want to portray to the world and
you see that false image and
others. And what if that
00:48:08.78\00:48:13.66
becomes then heightened by
merging into this thing that's
coming that they're saying is
00:48:13.66\00:48:19.09
the metaverse instead of just
typing and texting things on
social media, you go in there
00:48:19.09\00:48:24.03
visually and you'll be looking
at people's avatar interacting
in there. So it's a digital
00:48:24.03\00:48:27.60
plane of existence that replaces
the three-dimensional actual
world God made. This is
00:48:27.60\00:48:34.81
reality where we see each other
talk to each other and Satan
says, well, what if I
00:48:34.81\00:48:39.18
just get you living online and
not hugging your children
anymore. Not petting your dog
00:48:39.18\00:48:45.52
anymore. Not climbing that
regionally. Majority of 11 year
olds in the UK have never
00:48:45.52\00:48:47.99
climbed a tree at some point. So
so it's it's a counterfeit
reality of virtual plane of
00:48:47.99\00:48:54.20
existence. Now we want to be
careful because these are tools
that can be utilized.
00:48:54.20\00:48:58.37
You go online. You look
something up. Put something
online. Watch a video. You
00:48:58.37\00:49:03.20
know, so not to get too extreme
with our understanding of it.
But if it's our new
00:49:03.20\00:49:06.21
place, we live and our new
identity and it's a false
identity. Then it is a
00:49:06.21\00:49:11.95
counterfeit reality. And Satan
has succeeded in creating a
world to subsume the human
00:49:11.95\00:49:17.19
consciousness into where we
become divorce. That from God's
plan and will for our
00:49:17.19\00:49:20.19
lives, which is just pure joy.
God wants us to be happy. These
things. That's a key
00:49:20.19\00:49:24.06
win. Don't fulfill. And you ask
anybody who's come out of that
or he was honest and is
00:49:24.06\00:49:29.90
currently a an addict to video
games are online pornography or
whatever. The counterfeit
00:49:29.90\00:49:34.70
maybe it's not a place of joy
and fulfillment and freedom.
It's it's chains that bind a
00:49:34.70\00:49:41.58
virtual prison. >> Don't forget.
I want to come back to that
00:49:41.58\00:49:45.41
word. do you recall? Oh, this is
4 years ago, probably Weaver in
Dallas for Christmas. We were
00:49:45.41\00:49:51.19
all week been shopping all day
long we said are we saw sat down
for a little while and we
00:49:51.19\00:49:58.13
saw 3 girls, probably 16. They
passed by us. And laughing and
having the best time.
00:49:58.13\00:50:06.57
>> And the other little girl
walking along with France, but
she's texting. as about an
00:50:06.57\00:50:14.58
hour passed by, I think we're
going to something. We see the
same 3 little girls.
00:50:14.58\00:50:20.82
>> 2 of haven't out wonderful.
>> Social interchange exchange.
Social exchange and
00:50:20.82\00:50:27.62
the other little girl is And I
told Katie, she's artificially
connected death feeling like
00:50:27.62\00:50:38.03
she's having social interaction.
She was missing all the fun with
00:50:38.03\00:50:44.47
her friends. But I want you to
speak to before it was only got
about 6 minutes left in this
00:50:44.47\00:50:51.55
hour. Speak to D*** teeth
nature. And it's not just
violent video games. You've
00:50:51.55\00:51:00.52
heard about these potato chip
companies that put something in
it so that you don't just
00:51:00.52\00:51:04.89
can't just eat one. Well, these
games are good. Now out. But
playing scientist people
00:51:04.89\00:51:14.10
no. How to hook you when you
think all I'm just going to play
a couple of games of
00:51:14.10\00:51:20.28
this. And the next thing, you
know, you've spent an hour doing
that, but there actually
00:51:20.28\00:51:26.38
young people, probably middle
aged people that you hearing.
00:51:26.38\00:51:31.22
are staying up. >> All night
long. >> Playing these games in
this counterfeit reality. Speak
00:51:31.22\00:51:38.83
to the >> If that sounded hard
to believe, by the way, I've
00:51:38.83\00:51:44.90
talked to many, many people in
doing this ministry who've
literally stayed up all night
00:51:44.90\00:51:47.77
long playing video games. In
fact, doing that Friday night
doing that again Saturday
00:51:47.77\00:51:52.64
night. Maybe catch a couple
hours of sleep Saturday night
doing it again Sunday night.
00:51:52.64\00:51:57.58
Maybe catch a couple hours of
sleep Sunday night. But you go.
You're playing all weekend
00:51:57.58\00:52:02.25
from Friday afternoon till
Monday morning and then go back
to work that how do you
00:52:02.25\00:52:09.92
even do that? I mean, that
sounds like somebody who's doing
enormous amounts of hard
00:52:09.92\00:52:13.40
drugs, doesn't it? Because it's
a digital drug, its digital
doping. Me. I'm the
00:52:13.40\00:52:17.57
author of the book Glow Kids.
Nicholas Carr, Doris is his
name. He's treated located
00:52:17.57\00:52:22.70
below kids. Yeah, I'm like the
glow of the of the screen on the
face. He stated he's
00:52:22.70\00:52:30.35
treated hundreds of heroin
addicts in his practice and also
has now treated also
00:52:30.35\00:52:36.85
screen addicts, media and he
says it is easier to treat a
heroin addict. Then a true
00:52:36.85\00:52:43.39
screen addict. Wow. So the fact
that it's an addiction is not
just hyperbole. It's not
00:52:43.39\00:52:49.53
rhetoric. It's not a word we use
to describe something in more
fuss way. Clinically the
00:52:49.53\00:52:54.00
American Psychiatric Association
diagnosis video game addictions
00:52:54.00\00:52:59.84
definitely lost addictions
online pornography addictions.
These are very real quantifiable
00:52:59.84\00:53:05.51
addictions even before they
started embracing that in the
diagnostic and Statistic
00:53:05.51\00:53:10.12
Manual of Mental Disorders.
And even before it was official.
00:53:10.12\00:53:13.79
There was a survey done by
George Barna and he asked
Americans across the board
00:53:13.79\00:53:22.60
widespread survey. You know how
we are, how we are dealing with
our media habits, the things we
00:53:22.60\00:53:27.77
can't help. But do you know the
things that just give us that
pleasure hit? And specifically
00:53:27.77\00:53:32.94
he took the 7 question survey
that the American Psychiatric
Association uses to diagnose
00:53:32.94\00:53:37.98
addictions. Any set of asking
people those questions about
alcohol consumption, which is
00:53:37.98\00:53:42.15
an addiction or other
physiological addictions. He
asked those same 7 questions.
00:53:42.15\00:53:48.89
The diagnose, whether you're
addicted or not. He applied
those 2. Your video games here
00:53:48.89\00:53:53.53
watching Hollywood movies, you
name it and he found the
majority of Americans actually
00:53:53.53\00:53:58.73
qualify for an addiction. 2
media literacy and those have
been questions. You know, do
00:53:58.73\00:54:05.41
you have withdrawal symptoms
when you when you can't, when
you can't have do your example
00:54:05.41\00:54:09.78
they just somebody at home, if
you leave the house and you get
a 5 blocks away and
00:54:09.78\00:54:16.75
realize you left your cell
phone >> what do you do? Okay?
00:54:16.75\00:54:22.09
>> Yeah. You know, irritability
rises >> Do you do you hide the
00:54:22.09\00:54:26.80
quantity of time that you're
doing and lie about it? You
know, it's it's the same kind
00:54:26.80\00:54:30.53
of questions. People asked for
a gambling addict. In fact, it's
00:54:30.53\00:54:36.04
the very same neurological
sequences happening with video
game addiction and gambling
00:54:36.04\00:54:38.27
addiction. It's hitting the
nucleus accumbens of the brain
in the exact same way that
00:54:38.27\00:54:42.78
drugs too video games do that.
These other things I've
mentioned in other times a
00:54:42.78\00:54:47.02
number of times, just like
gambling. And so you might think
what can be an addiction
00:54:47.02\00:54:50.75
because it's not a substance.
The psychiatry profession begs
to differ and very much as an
00:54:50.75\00:54:56.19
addiction. And so to immerse our
children in that we would never
give our children drugs.
00:54:56.19\00:55:00.76
And, you know, I've gotten a
little bit more strong in my
advocacy for children on
00:55:00.76\00:55:04.27
behalf of children in the years
of doing this to the point
where, you know, it's an
00:55:04.27\00:55:09.70
innocent game, you know, car
Doris says that even a game like
mine craft, he says your
00:55:09.70\00:55:15.14
kid's brain on my craft looks
like a brain on drugs. So it's
not just the violent video
00:55:15.14\00:55:18.68
games that we're dealing with
there. Everybody's got their own
hang up. It's not just a
00:55:18.68\00:55:22.92
video game. Some people can be
addicted to social media and the
exact same way. It's very
00:55:22.92\00:55:26.52
much a tool and can be used in a
positive way as well. But some
becoming harder and
00:55:26.52\00:55:30.03
harder these days to navigate
that counterfeit reality and
maintain your individuality
00:55:30.03\00:55:36.23
and independents and grip
reality. >> And then, you know,
00:55:36.23\00:55:40.00
I'm just sitting here thinking
about sometimes I feel you
remember Pavel off the
00:55:40.00\00:55:46.21
scientist and his experiment. I
feel like dog my my up to. >> In
week. A lot of work. You
00:55:46.21\00:55:55.92
know, I mean, I love my
smartphone because >> it gives
00:55:55.92\00:56:02.09
people the ability to text me a
quick question that somebody
needs an answer. It working.
00:56:02.09\00:56:05.93
>> It's time saving. Thanks. But
how deep into doing something
00:56:05.93\00:56:11.60
and working on my computer and
my phone is sitting by my side.
And it goes buzzer goes off
00:56:11.60\00:56:18.01
vibrates or 8 games. I'll tell
you, I'm like path off stump.
I'm like, oh, and you stop and
00:56:18.01\00:56:27.82
you pick it up to see what the
notification was A text message
that's coming in. It
00:56:27.82\00:56:35.22
makes me efficient. People like
that. I answer their texts right
00:56:35.22\00:56:39.63
away in that sense. But it
totally destroys your heart.
Ability to concentrate and stay
00:56:39.63\00:56:48.17
focused. It's And so what
happens is on 7 S I'm beginning
to put my phone away because it
00:56:48.17\00:56:55.61
even interrupts my Bible study.
got a lot more. Scott, like I
said, I could push that. let
00:56:55.61\00:57:04.49
him go. He's got so many facts
and figures statistics in his
hip. But when we come back. We
00:57:04.49\00:57:10.56
will be discussing how do we
this counterfeit reality? How do
we of quote, unquote, that
00:57:10.56\00:57:23.91
trapped. How do we let God
confessed? Transform us rather
than being conformed. 2, this
00:57:23.91\00:57:33.48
current world.
right back. Please ¤
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