Welcome back to the second hour.
We have John, Sean and That's
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OK, my grandfather called me
John. He was an immigrant who
couldn't say she. She. And so I
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was John But let you borrow
that, He's the same mean the
same thing. Yeah. Same same
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route means God is gracious, I
think our you're you've got the
English, John. I've got the
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Irish on. >> This chant, British
in their version of cloud. And
I'm Angela. have my ah. One
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repeats a by Grace all my life.
I've been blessed with an angel
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praise after that. talking about
spiritual isn't I'm laying some
of the foundation of it in the
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first hour talking about how it
goes back to Egypt, not like the
fact this idea of the serpent
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teen series you working on just
couldn't touch down a little bit
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Ivy. Join. Why did you choose
the word 17? That's a question
by some civilized nation that
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predated the flood lost their
way because they listen to the
circuit bows of the old records.
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>> Whether we go down conspiracy
nut job sort of stories about
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Atlanta. Somewhat heavy is one
thing. But Plato and the Greek
philosopher spoke about a real
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place. They called Atlantis.
They just said it's west of us
somewhere here. Maybe the Horn
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of Africa. We don't know where
it was. They lost their way.
They died in the flood because
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they listen to the serpent. A
supreme being shows up to this
ancient Egyptian philosopher
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named thought Hermes Justice
Hermes, the thrice blast, the
messenger, philosopher, who
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becomes a God. He says I've
learned the real nature of the
universe are not supposed to
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be in physical body's response
to float away into Nirvana.
Rejoined the mind of God and
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the law just do a mind meld out
there in the universe and just
all become one. learned
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it from a character. He called
Andriese the Great Serpent, the
Dragon, the Greeks top the
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stories, the Roman stop, the
stories that the serpent brought
death to this world.
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They called him Saturday is the
limit or he he he was a serpent
encircled the solar
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system and kept it the creator
from creating. They said in
brought death to this world
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and it's serpent serpent's or
but serpent, although it the
Egyptian symbol, they borrows
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the snake eating its tail.
That's what that's a symbol of,
OK, physical limits were
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brought to this world. The
Greeks told the story about a
girl by the name of first
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happened for Stephanie for
Stephanie is a daughter of the
gods. And she's really, really
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pretty. She's out picking
flowers in Sicily. There are 3
primary guys. You know,
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Jupiter, Zeus, he gets he gets
the good part, gets the world
the way it is. Poseidon has to
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go out in the sea and he's over
the Atlanta INS and and Haiti's
gets younger world.
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He's not too happy about Like
really, I I drew the short
straw. Get the underworld.
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Yeah. And this is a hideous old
guy and he goes down the
underworld and one day he gets
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to come out. Once you're on the
the old myth goes, that is
right. Mister Cherry around
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and you see Spur. Stephanie,
thanks our wow. You know, she is
pretty but that zoo says
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daughter. I got to ask
permission marry this girl and
never mind the fact that in
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these ancient Pagan, Mister all
relating to get married, it's
just a big old So he goes
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to zoos and he says, hey, I'd
like to marry your daughter.
That's a big problem because
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he's hideous. Tunneled per
Stephanie doesn't want to marry
him. And Zeus wants to
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honor his brother doesn't tariff
and his brother. So he wants to
say yes, but he knows
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his wife damage or percent for
these mother is going to get
furious if he marries off
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their daughter to the God of the
underworld. So he says now in
the end, Haiti's of so many
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kidnaps are taken to the
underworld. Now follow this
story. They go into the
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underworld. To rescue her. They
send Mercury Hermes. Let's go.
Get her back. Go get
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her back from the underworld.
The beloved bride is now dying.
She's in the world of
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death for decades to come from.
Other bride has gone to the
world of death. We got to
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save her to go down there. They
work out a deal. Look, she
belongs up top. Are moms
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really mad? Bring her back.
can't live down here in the
shadowy world of flames.
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That's a bit of a contradiction.
role the flames. I guess you
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cast shadows when you're cooking
and toasting and Greek Haiti's.
We've got to get her
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out of here. She's got to come
out and they work out a deal,
OK? She can leave. As long as
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she hasn't eaten of the fruit,
then shocking go. That's the way
the Greeks told this
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story. Beautiful girl and
everybody knows she can go.
She's hasn't another fruit.
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She steps on Hermes chariot to
leave in somebody calls out.
Wait a minute. Sorry,
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pomegranate. That's their
version. Sorry at the
pomegranate. She has to stay.
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She has to stay motorists so
mad. The mama so mad that she
brings a famine to the whole
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world. Everybody is dying and
everybody goes to Susan says,
you've got to get that girl a
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lot of and this is disaster. All
going to die of starvation. So
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they cut a deal. This is the way
that the common everyday Greeks
and Romans learn the story. They
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cut a deal per Stephanie can
come back to the surface half of
the year. Summer and
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spring. Then she has to leave
and that's when De Madrid gets
mad. You get fall and winter,
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nothing gross. That's the story
they said that explains the
seasons. That's what the
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top the rank and file in the
mystery schools were. Plato
taught another stop this. And
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here's the real meaning that
story. When per Stephanie went
to the underworld. That was
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all of us getting trapped in a
physical body and it's not
supposed to be that way. We're
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supposed to be spirit every
story. And if there's a serpent
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lurking underneath every one of
these stories in the background
of everyone of these tales,
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hence the serpent prophecy. But
also because same story shows up
in Genesis where this is
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anchored, God creates us and
said this is very good. Real
woman, real man in a garden
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picking fruit eating, enjoying
life, made him. I am edge. A
servant comes along as his room.
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That's not how it's supposed to
be. It's not supposed to be. You
can be like the gots.
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It's the same story in
mythology. But it's been handed
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down through oral tradition and
passed on from generation to
generation. It's the same story
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that's in here. It's been
warped, but it's all anchored in
the same reality. That's why
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it's called Serpentine
Prophesied. Okay. And then the
Bible as a prediction. But what
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happens to the surface? And
we'll let you watch the series
to get that for the for. Yeah,
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because that is a question had a
couple times why serpent a every
culture has a serpent in
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South America. Quite a total.
This feathered serpent. God,
every single one of them. He's
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always telling the same stories.
>> And it turns out there's 2
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systems of belief in this world.
This book and everything else
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that right to try that it has
set. We were walking through.
Yeah. This goes back to endorse
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Correct? Saul which event door
and we ended that verse for
Samuel Chapter. verse Chapter.
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28, I think we ended with First
10. Is that right We're intent.
So yes. So so so Saul has gone
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to see heat. He asked his his
people to find him a medium. >>
He had formerly asked them
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all to leave the land. But he
asked his people to find a
medium and they found this
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woman and and or who is
underground. And so now he goes
to her to see her and he
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assures her that no harm will
come to her, even though she's
essentially functioning
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breaking his law that he laid
down. So let's pick it up again
in Verse 11. Then the
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woman said, who shall I bring up
for? You know what down up for
you right? And he said,
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bring up Samuel for story. This
is she'll of the canaanite and
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the Egyptians and the
Phoenicians and >> Babylonians.
This is not this is God showing
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the other side of the coin. This
is not God saying here's how
things are now. It's got pulling
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back the drapes saying here's
what's going on out there. That
right? Because the Hebrew
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she'll is fine. Shield is simply
the grays, just the great. But
but in the Egypt in
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the egyptology aspect of it,
right business under world trade
by still hanging out
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there, waiting for judgment down
there in the listen. Fields or
just stay there, but
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it's not great. It's not great.
Either way. And they're all just
down there floating
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around. And this story has them
saying bring the sand you from
there. Has the story in
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the Bible, right? And that's why
later on we got a revelation to
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see Haiti's real. Place of
destruction, right? Not a place
of people hanging out known.
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It's restored to what it
actually really is. It's a place
of destruction is not a meeting
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place for the departed will have
that right in the serpentine.
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We'll talk about that. Jesus is
wait a minute on the one who the
key to that? That's right. I
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think he'd right shoe. taking on
the role Yeah. Okay. Okay. So
first the levites and bring
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are up. Bring him Bring Samuel
for So verse 12 when the woman
saw Samuel. So she sees Samuel
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and then interesting. Yeah,
it's all doesn't. >> Right.
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>> She cried out with a loud
voice and the woman spoke to us
all saying why have you
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deceived me for you? Our Saul.
>> So when Sean and I are
looking at this recent, it's
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iced. I said I read your nice
away way stops. How does she
know Bennett Stahl, what
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happened at this point that
suddenly the witch of Endor
knows that? I think like
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Pastor Law McCain, you're very
tall. Unlike me. I think even if
you are disguised, if you
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are walking around 3ABN, I
probably figure out exactly. And
Saul was very tough, too.
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And so I head above everybody.
Maybe that's why she figured it
out. But I wasn't I was
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intrigued. So I dug a little bit
deeper and I found something but
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call patriarchs and prophets.
All right. If I share with you
here is to there's some
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beautiful and site here. And she
wrote the woman's first words
under the spell of her
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incantation have been addressed
to the King. >> Why Hast Thou
deceived me for Thaobh are saw.
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That's the first act of the evil
spirit which person aided the
profit was to communicate
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secretly with this wicked woman
to warn her of the deception
that have been practiced upon
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The message to saw from the
pretended profit was why Hast
Thou disquieted me to bring me
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up. Doesn't that fascinated that
communication that happens in
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the spirit world crashing this.
This woman on the shoulder, the
medium saying, hey,
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>> it's all that's right. >> All
right. I read this at first that
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God do. This doesn't seem so no.
>> It seems like the principal
Asians here fallen Angels and
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they're going, hey, guess who
this is just who you got in the
case here to try. Yeah. So
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I'd like to this right here
because Im Pei chest pockets
also paid 6.35. in my from
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Bible because there is an
alliance going on here. >> This
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is those who set themselves
against the government of God.
Entered into an alliance with
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the arch State and he will
exercise his power and cunning
to captivate the senses and
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mislead the understanding he
will cause everything to appear
in the false And that's what was
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happening here. And you want to
say something? Yeah, there was a
a statement you made
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about. >> The one notifying all
which has said I write because I
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I know I know people policy but
missed by 80 miles an hour,
right? Right. Right. And they
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may be distracting. Shaun
alluded back to it. >> He asked
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who was notifying her, right?
All the sudden, God say to you
not know that this is saw. No,
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no, no. Here. I told myself out
of this a long time ago, I'm not
even involved in this. This this
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like, yeah, I'm not even there
yet. And she saw yeah. >> Yes,
says that's very first
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act of the evil spirit, which
the profit was to communicate
secretly with this wicked
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woman to warn her of the
deception that had been
practiced upon her. Is that
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the part you are rough? Same
spirit that that's making her.
>> That's making Samuel up
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here. That's not Samuel Wright
saying wait a minute, that same
evil spirit perpetrating
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that. That's why the jet on the
Deuteronomy cause it from
million spirits right? It's
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the one warning her that this is
all so evil spirit and evil
spirit is warning her. That
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this is the king that's here.
You're in trouble. Watch. We
have men us. He's manipulating
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you. But we know who he is.
yeah. Because he put us out. >>
They know him better even
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Saul realizes because he's in
their camp at this point, right?
Yeah, right. Yeah. And
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I've always wondered where you
tipping her off like this. What
what are you gaining at
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this point? Are you laughing
about this whole thing? See what
I got here. I got the
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king of Israel. I got you got.
Or it's a warning like why
warning was a warning. What I
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yeah. >> And you can
see in just a moment how Dr.
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>> very want to go there yet
because it's really amazing.
Once again, we have to keep in
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my God is not in this
conference. No, no, And the
funny thing has grown up as a
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kid. I heard people preach ACC
sometimes got bends the rules
and he sents annual down Chat.
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>> That is not at all. What the
story says. No, and it's very
clear. Saul never sees.
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>> Samuel, no, he doesn't know.
She sees somebody coming up. She
she says what did you
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see is I see something. I'll
bring up spirits What did you
see? What is it verse? 13 for
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us to write in the King Center
do not be afraid. What did you
see? The woman said I saw
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Spirit is sending out of the
Earth. Wears that story. Come
from, OK? That's a pagan
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story. >> was coming back up
out of the earth. That is not a
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Bible story. What's in the
Bible? But, you know, I mean,
it's not us a biblical point of
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view. There's only 2 religions.
Okay. Okay. So just make that
point. You just why
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it hasn't snowed in the Bible.
That powerful. When Saul asked
that question, what is what
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was he asking asking the which
to be his ice? Wow was asking
even of 5. He was we wanted
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to. She says Saul is asking a to
be his highs, right? This is the
king of as own. And
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don't forget that he is so
desperate at this point. He
knows he's got to go to war
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and got his left and he knows
he's on the wrong side of
history. Now he knows he's
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done the wrong thing. He's so
desperate that she see something
he doesn't know. He
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doesn't know quite what it is,
but he leaps to it. That's got
to be Samuel. He wants to
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believe it wants to believe it,
but he wants to because that's
his right. So to speak
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is out, right? Because it's not
speaking to me. The Samuel is.
So here it is Versed 14.
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So he said to her, what is his
form? You can't see anything
right. And she said, oh, man
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is coming up as cover to the
Mantle and Saul perceived that
it doesn't say he saw, hey,
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that's annual He's received of
us and the stooped with his face
to the ground about down.
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Now we've got a problem. owing
Dow found There's a few
instances. You know, you're
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there's a couple problems solve
persie's. Its amulet doesn't say
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it was. It only starts talking
about him like he is Samuel.
After this point. Really right
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in the story. Thinks its annual.
The other problem is he bows
down in front of it. If this is
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the prophet of God, I'm reminded
of what happened when John Bows
down to the Angel. In
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Revelation, 19 in the ad says,
hey, what do you by it and don't
get up off the ground by
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and your fellow servant gone. Do
this. Samuel, it's quite happy
that there's no. Hey,
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hey, what are you doing? just
who wants worship Satan to write
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home? >> And they had a real
life until Samuel passed away.
Of course, Samuel and Saul had a
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real life relationship. Fall
would not have down to San or if
you tried, Samuel would
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have stopped him. had no right
or you want this story. The more
messed up it gets. This
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is not God acting in Samuels
life. This is Samuel taken
matters in his own hands and
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going over the other side. So
I'm not I'm Samuels. Good.
annual died in the lords to
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get call. Mister Now he's vowing
to an evil spirit, right? Yeah.
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That accepts his worship. His
office worship. I will be like
the most high, right, right.
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It's been fulfilled right there.
President I got the king of his.
Imagine this. The King of
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Israel got covenants. He's
right, somebody. It's not
David's time yet, but somebody
00:16:48.57\00:16:51.67
in that King line from David's
line later is going to be
00:16:51.67\00:16:57.01
Messiah. >> And now we've got a
spirit having the first king of
Israel bow down to him as
00:16:57.01\00:17:00.92
probably his idea in the first
place to get a king in Israel.
And now the leader of God's
00:17:00.92\00:17:04.75
covenant people is bowing >>
That is powerful. Wow, I'm
getting in door open. I'm in.
00:17:04.75\00:17:11.36
Yeah. >> It just over here. just
shows the state. I'm not only
00:17:11.36\00:17:18.30
kingship of Israel but of the
state of the nation of his with.
We're looking at the
00:17:18.30\00:17:25.24
state of the leader. Yeah,
difficult time she keep going.
Oh, This could go in the first
00:17:25.24\00:17:31.31
15 them. You will set us all. >>
Now perceived Samuel set to saw,
right? Why have you
00:17:31.31\00:17:38.25
disturb me by bringing me and
saw answered? I am deeply
distressed for the Philistines
00:17:38.25\00:17:44.56
make war against Man got has
departed from me and does not
answer me anymore. Neither by
00:17:44.56\00:17:49.00
profits. Nearby dreams.
Therefore, I have called you
that you may reveal to me what
00:17:49.00\00:17:54.50
I should do, right? He just said
God won't speak to me through
profits. So I'm coming
00:17:54.50\00:18:01.54
to you. >> Yeah, I want to Sam.
You're supposed to be profit
00:18:01.54\00:18:04.75
fright. But so this is not
Samuel. It can't be Samuel cost.
It can't be Samuel, the language
00:18:04.75\00:18:10.59
of the story says that Sauls
gone over to the other side to
the Egyptian school of thought
00:18:10.59\00:18:13.56
it's not And God's about shows
what happens when you walk that
right? So this this punch
00:18:13.56\00:18:22.23
this into that right now, you
know, that that law punch card.
But this whole idea that
00:18:22.23\00:18:27.37
punch card, everybody that looks
like a prophet of God is not a
prophet of God. does
00:18:27.37\00:18:36.24
Jesus warning for the last speed
whereof all false prophets write
00:18:36.24\00:18:43.22
comes to you in sheep's
clothing, but inwardly. ravenous
So watch out for the extreme
00:18:43.22\00:18:46.69
watch out for what you see.
That's a lot of people. You
know, that's why the eyes not
00:18:46.69\00:18:51.33
always the reliable. Source to
conclude that what I'm seeing is
actually true because what is
00:18:51.33\00:18:59.20
the only test Brown? All right.
We often point Christians love
00:18:59.20\00:19:03.47
to point to miracles as proof
that God just did something. And
does that happen? Sometimes
00:19:03.47\00:19:07.68
absolutely. seen. >> But is that
where you rest your faith? The
00:19:07.68\00:19:13.28
answer is no, it can't be in the
last days. Revelation makes it
very clear that what happens in
00:19:13.28\00:19:20.32
the last days as all the
miracles are in the wrong
places. There's fire coming down
00:19:20.32\00:19:24.89
from heaven in the sight of men
on this Earth was doing that.
Not got no, it's not right.
00:19:24.89\00:19:30.60
Unclean spirits like frogs
coming out of the mouth of that
and working signs and no nation
00:19:30.60\00:19:34.37
16, the miracles happen in all
the wrong places. At the end,
you can't rely on the
00:19:34.37\00:19:40.74
miraculous or the spectacular as
evidence that God is at work. If
00:19:40.74\00:19:47.58
you did this story means God's
work and you've got is
underlining I am not at work
00:19:47.58\00:19:52.12
here. This is not me watch When
I say something. I mean it and
you take that to the bank and I
00:19:52.12\00:19:56.19
don't even need to verify that
with a miracle. You trust my
word. So just like you shared
00:19:56.19\00:20:03.00
with us real earlier, Angela,
it's actually the opposite that
00:20:03.00\00:20:07.24
we need God's. >> Yes, guiding
her eyes. We need right in eyes.
Yeah. They had a which guide in
00:20:07.24\00:20:16.04
really a demon. which became his
eyes. Yeah, right? Great
thought, right? Which became
00:20:16.04\00:20:20.42
eyes. I can see anymore. Aligned
home. Plus the evidence
departure from spirituality. I'm
00:20:20.42\00:20:28.92
blind. I said and I don't even
know Richard Misreport blind in
a kid. You don't even know that
00:20:28.92\00:20:33.80
is blind and he doesn't even
know he's looking for something.
00:20:33.80\00:20:35.73
But you can't see it because
he's bought his plight. Skip
back to the store. Yeah. Asks,
00:20:35.73\00:20:42.17
did we for 66 69? Then Samuel
said. >> So why do you ask me
saying the Lord has departed
00:20:42.17\00:20:47.84
from you? And has become your
enemy? >> this is deep. This
00:20:47.84\00:20:56.55
God's work. Yeah, no. All. Okay.
I want to just kind of turned
audience. If you listen, if
00:20:56.55\00:20:59.89
you're watching the program,
I've got to ask you this
question. I'm hoping you're
00:20:59.89\00:21:03.36
grabbing this because the spirit
has. So it is so engaging Saul
00:21:03.36\00:21:10.90
now. Yeah, he's actually mocking
him. right is actually at the
point where he's mocking a man
00:21:10.90\00:21:17.64
of God. Former more merman, a
form who God is no longer
talking to the spirit of the
00:21:17.64\00:21:21.44
Lord has departed from. And you
saying I'm so since the Lord has
departed from the as is this
00:21:21.44\00:21:32.52
the alternative? We're friends
now so-called friends. you've
come to me since the Lord
00:21:32.52\00:21:37.86
departed from you. Yeah. How
could the Lord apart from you
and still use his prophet to
00:21:37.86\00:21:44.60
speak to Yeah, it's not possible
now. I've got you now. Look what
00:21:44.60\00:21:49.24
you've done. What I love is in
the next 2 verse and I the devil
tells the true sometimes. Yeah,
00:21:49.24\00:21:52.91
he's the father of lies, but he
tells the truth on occasion.
Yeah. Listen to this for 17
00:21:52.91\00:21:57.81
Lord is done for himself as he
spoke by me. Well, that our to
the lords toward the kingdom
00:21:57.81\00:22:00.98
out of your hand. >> And given
it to your neighbor, David, did
00:22:00.98\00:22:06.49
you just tell the because you
did not obey the voice of the
Lord or execute is fierce wrath
00:22:06.49\00:22:09.96
on amalek there for the Lord has
done this thing to you this day.
That's all true. Reminded
00:22:09.96\00:22:16.03
of that scene and Zechariah 3
with Joshua and the Angel and
and the devil is standing
00:22:16.03\00:22:21.70
there saying he's fit filthy.
Tell the truth. Yeah. double
says, Sean, you are for Phil
00:22:21.70\00:22:31.85
fees. You tell he absolutely is.
Yes, you did these things. Yes,
use and do you deserve
00:22:31.85\00:22:35.35
death? Yes, I do. He's telling
the truth there. Yeah, he's
gloating. This is the world I
00:22:35.35\00:22:42.19
Here's what I find interesting.
You never notice in that scene
00:22:42.19\00:22:44.59
in job Chapter one. All the sons
of God gather and who shows up
in place of Adam. Lucifer shows
00:22:44.59\00:22:53.27
up. Satan comes Gotzis Hayward.
You've been he I've been walking
00:22:53.27\00:23:00.48
to and from here. He is not
saying I'm going for it. I went
for a stroll down there on that
00:23:00.48\00:23:04.85
world. Now in the ancient world,
the foot as a symbol of
ownership, you can only walk on
00:23:04.85\00:23:08.15
what you own it see saying
that's my land. Now trust people
may near image. Gave it to me.
00:23:08.15\00:23:15.19
God says to Abraham in Genesis
13, hey, go for a walk. Every
foot touches. That's for you.
00:23:15.19\00:23:19.89
that's why Jesus when he comes
for his church, we meet him in
the air when the judgment is
00:23:19.89\00:23:23.10
done. And we've gone through the
books and we saying just ensure
that way. So king of
00:23:23.10\00:23:28.44
Saint, he comes down in his
foot, touches the Mount of
Olives and the son of man
00:23:28.44\00:23:33.61
claims that you're But in the
meantime. This is the song the
Devil sings. I own this place,
00:23:33.61\00:23:39.25
right? And I owe you look at the
next year in say you're in my
kingdom now. And you know,
00:23:39.25\00:23:46.15
and even when Satan tempted the
Lord in the wilderness, he >> I
on the slant its him and
00:23:46.15\00:23:52.76
just been given to me that his
dominion, he said Adam gave it
to me, right? Right. So that
00:23:52.76\00:23:58.40
Satan will. Get you in trouble
as it gets you in trouble. And
he'll tell on you, on you
00:23:58.40\00:24:08.38
right? But he does look that he
did. Does this dissenters,
right? This doesn't have to be
00:24:08.38\00:24:12.88
the end for you when the devil
says see what you have done.
It's hopeless. You've offended
00:24:12.88\00:24:16.89
your family. You've lost
your job. >> You're back on the
00:24:16.89\00:24:21.66
alcohol. You're back on Back on
that. You lied again. What a
mess you made news. We're are
00:24:21.66\00:24:27.30
filthy and see you. Didn't you
walked away from God and now
he's upset with you. Yeah,
00:24:27.30\00:24:31.87
it's all done in Iowa. New now
and there's no yeah. There's
always hope with Saleh has to
00:24:31.87\00:24:36.14
end badly here with you, NAFTA.
doesn't have to end Oh, you can
still take this point
00:24:36.14\00:24:43.58
and say, yeah, you know what?
That's true. And that's what
God's waiting for you to say.
00:24:43.58\00:24:48.68
It's all true. I do all that and
I need Jesus and then and in and
00:24:48.68\00:24:54.22
God says. >> If you confess your
sins, is faithful and just sat
right, forgive our sins and
00:24:54.22\00:24:58.59
cleanse us from all you up.
Alright, justice that's the
first John one verse 9
00:24:58.59\00:25:05.37
justice, maybe verse 10 says
unless you've got 2 assailants
in your life, no, not at all.
00:25:05.37\00:25:11.47
You might have gone down this
road. I don't know who you are
watching. I suspect a few of
00:25:11.47\00:25:15.34
you have gone down this road and
you've been told it's all done
now. No, that's not on
00:25:15.34\00:25:19.65
Now. All Unrighteousness God can
pull you out of this, too. He
00:25:19.65\00:25:25.99
knows you've been negotiating
with a liar and he knows how to
do it. You don't your stock. I
00:25:25.99\00:25:30.76
know you're stuck. And, you
know, I have to be start. No,
you don't have to be stuck. He's
00:25:30.76\00:25:34.30
a liar. And the King of Truth
will and do right. You to thank
you for that. But very true.
00:25:34.30\00:25:43.94
Well, >> Yes and well. Sorry.
And and God wasn't done with the
nation of Israel, you know,
00:25:43.94\00:25:47.98
>> And and as >> skewed as the
situation and time for Saul is
00:25:47.98\00:25:54.02
the current king of Israel.
That's about to end. He's got to
die and God had a good plan, a
00:25:54.02\00:26:02.46
good king. He had David coming
next. And Davis already ready.
And he's waiting in the wings
00:26:02.46\00:26:06.03
and got prepared him and Messiah
comes eventually from the line
00:26:06.03\00:26:11.87
of David. So just like in this
dark situation seems hopeless.
got still had a plan for his
00:26:11.87\00:26:19.01
people, his children, his plan
for us all way. And that right.
00:26:19.01\00:26:25.01
I love that. >> All right. We've
got 19 the line scene. >>
Moreover, the just says my
00:26:25.01\00:26:32.55
whole point, I just makers are
over. The Lord will also deliver
Israel with you into
00:26:32.55\00:26:37.89
the hand of the Phyllis Tines
and tomorrow you and your sons
will be with me pause. just
00:26:37.89\00:26:44.53
said with me, you're going
to die. >> And so often that's
00:26:44.53\00:26:49.94
exactly where this pathway
leads. The Egyptian school of
thought ends in death. That's
00:26:49.94\00:26:52.74
right. Every single time. And
now you dabble in the stuff
tomorrow going to be with me.
00:26:52.74\00:26:57.95
But what's interesting if this
is really Samuel? Yeah, really
simple. If the stories I was
00:26:57.95\00:27:04.12
told as a kid are true and this
is Sammy Lee came down from
heaven. He saying they
00:27:04.12\00:27:07.16
saw you're really messed up.
It's completely last year. A
last man and tomorrow you're
00:27:07.16\00:27:10.73
going to be with me. I was
taught as a kid Samuel's
floating around up there and
00:27:10.73\00:27:19.03
God's going to bring this wicked
King who just did a seance. To
00:27:19.03\00:27:22.90
be was Samuel and having. No,
no, this is a pagan story.
You're going to the underworld.
00:27:22.90\00:27:27.34
Yes, or you're gone. That's
right. On down there with me. He
didn't say you're going to going
00:27:27.34\00:27:31.08
to have a nice weekend. And I
yeah, right. >> And be with me.
00:27:31.08\00:27:35.12
Sam, go to the same place? No,
because I with Kate and one is
Russia's unless the same places
00:27:35.12\00:27:39.19
the grave. All right, Yeah. And
that is the same lie told about
00:27:39.19\00:27:48.20
the rich man and Lazarus.
They're able to communicate
their invisible distance of each
00:27:48.20\00:27:52.37
other Yeah, great off between
but they can hear each other.
Going over there in heaven.
00:27:52.37\00:27:56.10
Really good. How about over
there and help? It's kind of
hot. You know, it's like the
00:27:56.10\00:28:02.51
whole story is ridiculous.
What's interesting is the
pharisees believed a story like
00:28:02.51\00:28:05.91
that. Why? Because in the
schools of Alexandria, the
mistress, schools were top
00:28:05.91\00:28:10.59
Playdoh just trust justice to
her medical all taught
Alexandria. >> Jewish
00:28:10.59\00:28:15.79
philosophers were trying to
impress the Greeks purchased a
sophisticated as you and they
00:28:15.79\00:28:18.83
begin to blend the stories. And
by the time Jesus comes around
the first these were telling a
00:28:18.83\00:28:22.76
story just like the rich man and
Lazarus. Yes. And and so Jesus
is quoting a story very using.
00:28:22.76\00:28:29.34
To demonstrate their spiritual
position. Fascinating. God means
people exactly where
00:28:29.34\00:28:34.91
they are. That story we could
pound pack for 2 hours because I
think Jesus saying something
00:28:34.91\00:28:39.28
very specific to them in that
story. And that's why when he
completely debunked their
00:28:39.28\00:28:44.65
belief, they said he's got to
tie they said his death, they
they focus sharpened their
00:28:44.65\00:28:51.43
pencils to pursue his death.
Yeah. When he raised last Russ.
Yeah, this is this is
00:28:51.43\00:28:57.57
upsetting our whole belief
system, right? Right here.
Here's the I think the key
00:28:57.57\00:29:02.67
point want to underline in this
story. People say is it possible
to speak to the dead?
00:29:02.67\00:29:08.14
God forbid. now now now driving
that can't happen. We know in
scripture, God says.
00:29:08.14\00:29:14.58
That dad do well was that
expertise as his night was 5.
And yeah, it's a Estes. 9
00:29:14.58\00:29:19.55
versus 5, 6, living and dead. If
parish Nevermore where they have
a shared anything the
00:29:19.55\00:29:23.29
sun. That right. So I can go
spend the night 100 room.
They're not coming back. No,
00:29:23.29\00:29:28.13
can't, right. They should never
return to their house job 7
versus 9.10 and cannot
00:29:28.13\00:29:33.50
come back to their house if some
shows up in your house, it is
not your loved ones.
00:29:33.50\00:29:38.24
It's the devil playing a cruel
game. I try and be your loved
ones. It's possible to
00:29:38.24\00:29:43.45
communicate with them. The
Bible's very clear about that.
They don't come back. They
00:29:43.45\00:29:47.22
don't come back to their house.
That was the best news ever.
When I finally stumbled
00:29:47.22\00:29:49.82
across as a kid, they that. Like
every time family member die. I
was pretty a little
00:29:49.82\00:29:57.49
boy. I should behave right now
because I don't claim well, he's
probably watching me
00:29:57.49\00:30:04.20
right now. I'm going to report
me to God. I mean, what a silly
perspective. pretty sure
00:30:04.20\00:30:09.87
guy can see me anyway, but not
bad this week because now he's
watching you. Hugh Madgen, how
00:30:09.87\00:30:12.94
great it was to to find out.
Wait a minute. They don't ever
come back to their house.
00:30:12.94\00:30:17.55
That's right, period. >> Ever.
And it's not. Samuel coming back
00:30:17.55\00:30:22.88
for a visit. No, no, it's not.
Who you think it is coming to
visit you in the night? It's
00:30:22.88\00:30:26.89
not. No, it's not be very
careful. >> The same person,
plain cruel with Seoul's
00:30:26.89\00:30:31.89
desperation play. Screw with
your pain. I screw with your
pain and he will do what it
00:30:31.89\00:30:38.70
takes to make you convinced that
you're talking to God when you
probably are not. You know
00:30:38.70\00:30:40.60
that right? >> You know, I grew
up and you grow up too, though.
00:30:40.60\00:30:46.94
And if I never actually haha
radically corrupt and Grew up in
a faith tradition. Nowhere. I
00:30:46.94\00:30:57.25
did believe that my grandmother
was watching over us. She is
watching over the family and
00:30:57.25\00:31:02.36
>> there was some comfort to
But, you know, as as I I thought
about it more and as I
00:31:02.36\00:31:08.56
learned more and stay scripture
are as I got older, I realized
that maybe that was
00:31:08.56\00:31:13.67
a little bit comforting to me.
But in a way that's kind of. A
selfish belief to her because
00:31:13.67\00:31:19.37
if in deed she could watch over
my life. How painful? But it for
her to see. The pain
00:31:19.37\00:31:28.48
and the of spin and hardship on
on me, my family and other
people she cared about. So in
00:31:28.48\00:31:32.89
a way. The comfort part. I
understand. But at the way, I
believe and think of it now, I
00:31:32.89\00:31:40.73
think it's kind of liberating to
to those who are at peace. Yeah,
they're not affected by
00:31:40.73\00:31:45.93
the sand and the chaos of their
loved ones lives. How to cope
with that. The tips are
00:31:45.93\00:31:52.77
in heaven. EU. Be miserable.
Yeah, yeah. You know, know that
pain got think about
00:31:52.77\00:31:57.48
that. I'm glad there's no
communication between. >> I
think really so let's hit
00:31:57.48\00:32:02.85
by a bus tonight. >> And on the
way out of here, Jeanne
survives. Yeah. And she
00:32:02.85\00:32:09.76
she finds a guy in there and
watch a case could be happy
trying to guide us. Wait a
00:32:09.76\00:32:12.99
minute. Wait a minute. He's
better looking than me. and both
of us. He did the same
00:32:12.99\00:32:21.94
like he's got a Got money. And
this isn't having any more
manic. What is going on down
00:32:21.94\00:32:31.65
dream boat actually taking this.
What? >> And then and then what
00:32:31.65\00:32:34.85
happens later? 2 years later, I
take a peek and now he's hitting
00:32:34.85\00:32:38.09
her. >> Right? Yeah. And Mister
Lay. for that. That no. Yeah.
That's the pagan concept. And
00:32:38.09\00:32:48.83
the pay can concept as you
feeding angry gods for the rest
of your life. It's not
00:32:48.83\00:32:53.67
have That's why it is not
somebody just actually early
this week asked me. So what do
00:32:53.67\00:32:58.01
you do? You have a relative
that. >> Has this belief and
00:32:58.01\00:33:02.38
someone in the family has just I
said, well, timing is everything
transfer Senate. But the
00:33:02.38\00:33:09.05
funeral say Mama side and
haven't stopped line at the
00:33:09.05\00:33:13.59
funeral. Don't be embarrassing.
This kind of really defeat the
whole ideology of communicating.
00:33:13.59\00:33:16.73
But I said I've had situations
where asset. But if I told you
way better plan that. So what
00:33:16.73\00:33:22.30
could be better than that? I
said, let's just follow. You
thought all the way through.
00:33:22.30\00:33:26.67
And you just made that point.
Okay to say in your own
understanding that your dearly
00:33:26.67\00:33:33.38
departed is now in heaven,
looking down how much joy could
that be? When they're
00:33:33.38\00:33:39.21
seeing all the pain and
heartache you go through and as
00:33:39.21\00:33:43.28
you just use this illustration,
well, my wife is remarried. Take
eyes just hit my wife and I want
00:33:43.28\00:33:50.19
to be a spiritual moment.
Actually. I want to have a
national 5th so you can go back
00:33:50.19\00:33:55.86
be heaven will be a basement
apartment. It said. >> So I said
00:33:55.86\00:33:59.00
that the person just tell them
God's plan is that you and your
mother go to have been taken I
00:33:59.00\00:34:07.18
not. We shall be caught it
together right to meet him in
the air. You saw it defeats all
00:34:07.18\00:34:12.01
invest persistently for first 13
to 18. We shall be caught up
together. 10 meet him in the
00:34:12.01\00:34:17.45
air. So Liberace is not up
there. Playing piano Dave
Martin, Sammy Davis Junior and
00:34:17.45\00:34:22.16
Frank Sinatra not up there.
Playing piano, you know,
Liberace is not playing piano.
00:34:22.16\00:34:26.96
The New York Yankees that tie
the knot up there playing
baseball. These would be to us
00:34:26.96\00:34:29.93
ideologies. Michael Jackson is
not moonwalking in heaven. All
these said the funerals. And
00:34:29.93\00:34:37.94
people somehow believe are the
sole this concept of the sold to
consummate the. So are you
00:34:37.94\00:34:42.44
going to talk about that in the
17 a little a little bit that
the prophecy is set up to
00:34:42.44\00:34:46.85
explore one question. >> Do the
dead talk to us? To the dead and
00:34:46.85\00:34:53.66
we've already given or handle a
little bit. All right, Ryan, who
is it? But Ryan, who is it? And
00:34:53.66\00:35:02.36
what does happen when we die?
And that will be the study that
comes out of the other end of
00:35:02.36\00:35:07.00
that. What does the Bible
actually second tease a little
bit? I mean, it's pretty clear
00:35:07.00\00:35:09.10
when Lazarus dies. Jesus talks
to. His sister Mary. He says
your brother is going to rise
00:35:09.10\00:35:17.81
again. Oh, yeah. Rise again.
Martha I know he's going to rise
00:35:17.81\00:35:27.92
again. At the resurrection in
the last day. And then she's
clear. I read that and I
00:35:27.92\00:35:31.26
thought, wait a minute. That's
not what I was told. Why doesn't
Martha Salmon and join him?
00:35:31.26\00:35:40.40
mentioned a moment ago the Jews
were trying to impress people in
in Alexandria. The same thing
00:35:40.40\00:35:44.44
happened with the Christians
later. We have church fathers.
You're trying to impress him
00:35:44.44\00:35:47.71
and they blended the Gnostic.
Started reading the They adopted
00:35:47.71\00:35:54.28
it. And then this story came
into Christianity in bout the
medieval period where you can
00:35:54.28\00:35:58.95
contact the dead. And that was
all the hermetic. It was all
Egyptian thought. Moses walked
00:35:58.95\00:36:04.29
away from Egypt. At the end, he
says I don't care how wealthy
and how fabulous that is on
00:36:04.29\00:36:07.03
with the God of of Abraham,
Isaac and Jacob. And he's going
he promises a better
00:36:07.03\00:36:14.84
city. That's what the book if
you tried it's a real place. And
at the end, the holy city
00:36:14.84\00:36:20.71
comes down to a real world and
the son of man takes human form
forever and lives among
00:36:20.71\00:36:23.81
us. This way. I tried this way
and the debtor raised at the
end. It's such a simple
00:36:23.81\00:36:31.25
statement. I'm not going to see
him again at the resurrection.
00:36:31.25\00:36:36.89
At the last day, right Not prior
to that. But how did this get
00:36:36.89\00:36:42.73
into Christianity? >> That's the
long, long story. And we've got
a couple of hours all in the
00:36:42.73\00:36:48.24
hope. And then Alexandria,
Egypt, in the center of learning
in the earliest centuries of of
00:36:48.24\00:36:52.44
the church. I mean, the
scriptures their earlier years
were translated into Greek. The
00:36:52.44\00:36:57.35
sophisticated language. That was
a good development, this up to
agents. Nice to read and
00:36:57.35\00:36:59.48
so on. >> But the blending
happen there and the blending
00:36:59.48\00:37:03.72
continued. And then in the Roman
empire in western Christianity,
00:37:03.72\00:37:08.62
suddenly we asked the Roman
emperor to start solving the
disputes inside the church. And
00:37:08.62\00:37:12.49
he set up a system where he
baptized all of it. >> The Roman
00:37:12.49\00:37:19.53
empire under the veneer of
Christianity. But people hung on
to the old Pagan beliefs anyway.
00:37:19.53\00:37:22.64
Yeah. I started saying we can do
both. We can do both. I mean, we
can worship Jesus, but we can
00:37:22.64\00:37:28.34
still contact the spirit world
and we can still float away when
we die. And it was a
00:37:28.34\00:37:32.11
blending that happened in the
4 century. I have another 5 part
00:37:32.11\00:37:35.22
series on how that started. But
but it was when we baptize when
we asked the Roman emperor to
00:37:35.22\00:37:42.86
take over the church the same
way Israel soul to come in as a
king. When God didn't want that,
00:37:42.86\00:37:48.03
we did the same thing just prior
at the end of antiquity going
into the medieval period. We
00:37:48.03\00:37:50.70
said we want to King too. We've
got to pay in King to try and
they bring all their
00:37:50.70\00:37:54.57
bad and that's where it that's
where all the teaching of
Alexandria goes mainstream. At
00:37:54.57\00:37:59.67
that point and >> a question.
Here's a question for Hope it's
00:37:59.67\00:38:05.85
hard because genes ready. That's
in Spiritualism. There are many
people that believe the dead
00:38:05.85\00:38:13.09
family members go straight to
heaven. How to swan. Let them
know that the family members
00:38:13.09\00:38:19.33
are asleep. Now this is surely
from Wyoming. Depends again, I
think Tester limiting you had
00:38:19.33\00:38:24.00
the time in question. Yeah,
they're ready to hear that. But
you have to ask yourself
00:38:24.00\00:38:27.20
is what 2 people hope. It's
true. That's what I always ask
myself. And somebody raises a
00:38:27.20\00:38:32.84
point, I know isn't typical. And
they disagree. What want to I
want conversation to
00:38:32.84\00:38:37.28
continue long enough that it
keeps going. And after and what
are they hope? It's true.
00:38:37.28\00:38:42.25
They hope death is not the end.
Can we agree on that? Yes, we
00:38:42.25\00:38:47.59
can. I I know the Bible teaches
Jesus. Ed Lazarus is asleep. It
calls its deficit leap 70.
00:38:47.59\00:38:52.16
Sometimes I know that's true.
But what are both of us hoping
it wasn't the end? Both going to
00:38:52.16\00:38:57.77
see grandma again. You can agree
first. I would agree first. You
00:38:57.77\00:39:02.07
know what isn't it nice that we
know in Jesus that you will get
to see your grandma again,
00:39:02.07\00:39:07.08
especially if it's right after
that, you know, and they have
carried her yesterday. I would
00:39:07.08\00:39:10.81
start there and you wait for
people to ask questions and see
where God is leading their mind
00:39:10.81\00:39:15.78
instead of shoving on them
because they're going to push
back. Why are they finding
00:39:15.78\00:39:19.85
emotional comfort in that? You
have to ask yourself and then
you go to the scriptures and
00:39:19.85\00:39:22.19
show how like what you said.
There's even more comforted that
therefore comfort one
00:39:22.19\00:39:28.03
another. With these words, he
says first, this loan is for
what words Jesus will come the
00:39:28.03\00:39:31.07
wake. Everybody up. But its
timing. Timing is big-time is
huge well, remember from a a
00:39:31.07\00:39:40.78
my brother's wife who passed
away 30 36, 30 thanks. Just 34
34 years old. I'm having the
00:39:40.78\00:39:50.15
belief system that she was
raised in. I want to mention the
church, but she asked you,
00:39:50.15\00:39:55.69
why do you go to church? And
Saturday was church believe. And
I told us that. I've had
00:39:55.69\00:39:59.33
to tell you it's going to
destroy everything you believe.
00:39:59.33\00:40:03.03
She says I could handle it. she
did. timing. And when I left,
you came home. We have families
00:40:03.03\00:40:09.84
in the version eyes and
sometimes I came home and she
called she said, I want to know
00:40:09.84\00:40:12.61
why women don't want to know
more. >> When she passed away, I
will tell that to the details
00:40:12.61\00:40:18.11
she said I want. I want at my
funeral for you to presentation
00:40:18.11\00:40:25.22
on what happened your tie. Wow.
That was her party. That was her
dying And her family said this
00:40:25.22\00:40:32.09
is what they want. They want
that their whole faith didn't
believe what she embraced. At
00:40:32.09\00:40:37.80
the funeral there. I am home. I
slide projector screen giving a
00:40:37.80\00:40:42.24
full schedule presentation at at
her request. Yeah, please, my my
family needs to know what
00:40:42.24\00:40:47.64
happens. High and she ended her.
It's an amazing story I'll tell
00:40:47.64\00:40:55.98
you after the program, but I'm
that was the whole point. So you
have to wait for the timing of
00:40:55.98\00:41:01.19
right now. You can't force, you
know, he pushed Okay. The other
one. Yes. One. bodies
00:41:01.19\00:41:09.70
girl ill. >> Old and die because
we do not have the tree, which
00:41:09.70\00:41:14.87
is the food of life. So we shall
not show the die if we believe
in Jesus. No other way. Then
00:41:14.87\00:41:23.21
we will live. And then you have
us where we once again will be
with our create a god
00:41:23.21\00:41:32.25
and each of the tree of life and
love question, is that right?
00:41:32.25\00:41:40.16
Terry in Ohio. >> But as that's
a long question. But here's what
I'm watching In the Garden of
00:41:40.16\00:41:46.90
Eden. When God removes Adam and
Eve. Send them outside the
garden. That's it. We do not
00:41:46.90\00:41:52.84
want them to eat from the tree
of life less. They live forever.
The wages of sin is
00:41:52.84\00:41:58.85
is death Now that we're in this
miserable condition guy's not
going to let you just keep
00:41:58.85\00:42:03.62
going forever life's hard
enough. If you get 90 100 and
I'm getting older stuff hurt
00:42:03.62\00:42:11.99
and decide, do I really want to
go on 300 years like this?
Probably not not of the
00:42:11.99\00:42:15.33
deterioration. And not only that
if we are to live for ever
imagine the wickedness we
00:42:15.33\00:42:21.40
could The trouble I've gotten
into in 57 years is bad enough.
What would it be like
00:42:21.40\00:42:26.34
1000 years, especially without
the Lord. badly this world, but
you wouldn't get any
00:42:26.34\00:42:30.48
sleep? I would get out death is
asleep. The Bible says I'm
looking forward to cash and
00:42:30.48\00:42:35.85
but but God leads them out of
the garden in. Here's the
interesting thing. Here's the
00:42:35.85\00:42:41.92
interesting thing. It doesn't
say got cut them off of the tree
of life. It's not quite
00:42:41.92\00:42:44.43
the way that its worded. All
right. It says in Genesis 3.24,
he drove out the man he
00:42:44.43\00:42:49.16
placed chair a bit least of the
Garden of Eden. Pretty find
cherub and all through
00:42:49.16\00:42:56.71
the Bible. God is the one who
dwells between the chair God
dwells between the chair of
00:42:56.71\00:43:01.24
There were chair on the Ark of
the Covenant with the presence
of God came down above that
00:43:01.24\00:43:04.15
arc chair of him represent the
throne of God. They stand right
next. Turn of God and
00:43:04.15\00:43:09.38
the in a flaming sword which
turned every way there's a
flaming sword. This flaming
00:43:09.38\00:43:14.86
presence between 2 chairman
who's at the Gates of Eden.
There's an old Scottish
00:43:14.86\00:43:19.46
commentator from early 18. 100's
named Hugh Martin says this is
the first sanctuary
00:43:19.46\00:43:25.57
service right God is saying
there's a way back and the are
there not to bar the way to
00:43:25.57\00:43:30.87
the tree of life. It's carefully
worded guard. It. It's not gone
00:43:30.87\00:43:37.75
forever. No, you can't eat from
it right now. Not now, but I'm
going to open this up Open these
00:43:37.75\00:43:41.75
gates again. And the truth is we
get over to revelation at this
point. The ground is cursed.
00:43:41.75\00:43:46.09
We're going to die. There's pain
and suffering. And at the end,
God wipes away our tears
00:43:46.09\00:43:51.13
list. The curse off the ground
puts the tree of life back and
because Jesus is now the head
00:43:51.13\00:43:54.10
of the human race, the son of
man, he lives here with us and
you go straight back into the
00:43:54.10\00:43:58.90
garden. You can starting from
that tree again, then this
mortal Shell put on
00:43:58.90\00:44:04.51
immortality. First, 15 I answer
the question. >> Get your go on
00:44:04.51\00:44:13.88
about the chair up and you know,
has so many components here it
has so many components here and
00:44:13.88\00:44:17.95
I think that was adequate. Oh,
good. Yeah. Yeah. Now as we as
we look down the pathway of
00:44:17.95\00:44:23.32
understanding. All the aspects
of how blessed that it is to
know. The truth is this is
00:44:23.32\00:44:30.03
what I want to kind of as we 10,
15 on a set of the program. Talk
00:44:30.03\00:44:37.71
about how important it is to
facts rather than getting tied
00:44:37.71\00:44:49.05
up in the fiction. >> You moment
ago in a reference to the fact
that all the miracles happen in
00:44:49.05\00:44:51.05
the wrong place in the end.
don't know how many people out
there are sensing that it's not
00:44:51.05\00:44:55.79
business as usual on this planet
anymore. But it's not something
00:44:55.79\00:45:01.70
is changing. And we're getting
the sense that we're pulling
into a lot of the things now
00:45:01.70\00:45:04.70
that we were told are going to
happen. And at that moment, the
miracles happen in all the wrong
00:45:04.70\00:45:12.04
places. How important would it
be to know? That the dead can
contact you? What if they did?
00:45:12.04\00:45:20.25
What they did contact you. They
telling you the truth at that
point. Or they're going
00:45:20.25\00:45:27.89
to lie to you like the saw? what
do you do? Want to know the
truth from the world's
00:45:27.89\00:45:32.63
falling apart? You want to know
the truth when you hurt, you
want to know the truth.
00:45:32.63\00:45:38.27
>> When your family is falling
to pieces when your sins are
catching up with you and you
00:45:38.27\00:45:41.04
lay awake at 2 o'clock in the
morning over what has happened
in your life in the Bible says
00:45:41.04\00:45:43.64
the wages of is death. You want
know the truth? Here's an
interesting thing. In the
00:45:43.64\00:45:49.74
1950's Oscar Coleman. Lutheran
Theologian is speaking at
Princeton University and gets
00:45:49.74\00:45:56.92
up pieces discovered something
fascinating. Bible does not
teach. The dead. Can talk to
00:45:56.92\00:46:02.46
us that they're out there,
communicate all of us. He was
thrown out for this. Thrown
00:46:02.46\00:46:08.63
out and they just pardon. But
Oscar Coleman's book is piece of
brilliance. 1950's. I think
00:46:08.63\00:46:13.40
58 maybe Princeton and he ends
with the story says let's talk.
00:46:13.40\00:46:18.51
Let me tell you 2 stories. Let
me tell you 2 stories. One of
Socrates has been condemned to
00:46:18.51\00:46:23.08
die for corrupting the youth in
the city of Athens and they put
him in prison and they give
00:46:23.08\00:46:26.11
them a cup of poison hemlock and
he has to drink because you've
corrupted the youth in
00:46:26.11\00:46:29.42
his students gather around.
Weeping and they're crying and
they're saying how can we lose
00:46:29.42\00:46:35.42
our masterpieces, which you
relax. This is what philosophers
00:46:35.42\00:46:39.46
long for and find the going to
have real knowledge of when to
leave this physical prison. I'm
00:46:39.46\00:46:42.66
in and float off to the great
mind in the sky and I will be
enlightened and Lyft. Come on,
00:46:42.66\00:46:46.90
man, rejoice with me. This is a
party going tricked and down. It
goes well. That's one
00:46:46.90\00:46:52.17
story. Coleman said No. Let me
tell you another one. The son of
God is in the garden of
00:46:52.17\00:46:56.88
Gethsemane and there's great
drops like blood falling off of
his forehead and he turns
00:46:56.88\00:47:02.25
to his heavenly father. And he
says let this cup ash from Which
one of these 2 men do
00:47:02.25\00:47:07.42
you think was telling the truth
about is it important yet?
Because we all lose
00:47:07.42\00:47:15.06
people. Is an important yet
because I'm on this. If if the
war doesn't come before my
00:47:15.06\00:47:20.57
time runs out, I'm on the same
people mover that the rest of
your all on its going to dump
00:47:20.57\00:47:26.04
into a casket at the end. And I
want to know, I want to know
what happens when I go there.
00:47:26.04\00:47:30.15
We're all headed there. I want
to know. I know. You know, I
know you all are going to be
00:47:30.15\00:47:34.45
nice to have a funeral for me.
And then when the funeral is
done, you can go back to the
00:47:34.45\00:47:39.02
church and have a potluck. And
even those casseroles or tater
tots and cream of mushroom
00:47:39.02\00:47:42.19
soup and all that stuff. it
called the health message about
10 minutes into that
00:47:42.19\00:47:45.63
Castro. You're going have a
conversation about what you're
doing work tomorrow, but I'm
00:47:45.63\00:47:49.70
going to be in that box in the
hole. And I want to know before
that moment, what's
00:47:49.70\00:47:55.40
true? Yes, what So That's Yes.
>> That that is really are the
apex of it. All because people
00:47:55.40\00:48:02.64
really don't want to die. They
don't do it when when you you
Douglas Adams's Douglas Adams
00:48:02.64\00:48:12.69
wrote the Hitchhiker's Guide to
the Galaxy and he was a nihilist
00:48:12.69\00:48:16.69
and >> he had a computer in this
story that works for 5 million
ears to answer the question of
00:48:16.69\00:48:19.89
life. What does life mean? What
is the meaning of the universe
life and everything?
00:48:19.89\00:48:25.30
5 million years later, the
computer spits out the answer in
his novel and it says 42 my
00:48:25.30\00:48:29.57
42 well good as answers any
nothing means anything. So he
died tragically at cancer
00:48:29.57\00:48:33.84
died. Young think it was cancer
that took him in my buddy Cliff
00:48:33.84\00:48:37.78
because he says you go watch his
funeral on the BBC. I don't
watch funeral atheist runners of
00:48:37.78\00:48:42.72
the saddest thing in the world.
What do you do? Just later, you
know, like and Richard Dawkins
00:48:42.72\00:48:45.82
is speaking. General Got to
watch that. atheist still pretty
said. And he struggles. And
00:48:45.82\00:48:54.66
Dawkins says he was taken from
us young. This isn't right. And
if understand right and
00:48:54.66\00:49:02.04
one of the services they planted
a tree. In Douglas Adams honor.
00:49:02.04\00:49:10.65
Because when you stand a grave,
every fiber of your being is
screaming. This is wrong. It's
00:49:10.65\00:49:15.58
not supposed to be like this.
God says I put the turn of the
in your heart. Uniquely Zs just
00:49:15.58\00:49:20.36
reverse 11. I don't care how
much your brain tells you. We're
going to die and that's it. And
00:49:20.36\00:49:24.69
the lights go out. I know that's
what your brain tells you. But
why does our hearts scream at
00:49:24.69\00:49:27.40
every grade side this is wrong.
What tells you that what tells
you that she turned
00:49:27.40\00:49:33.84
in the human heart? God left
just enough behind This doesn't
have to be the end. I
00:49:33.84\00:49:37.54
know how to undo this. And this
is wrong. This is wrong. Why is
it important to know
00:49:37.54\00:49:41.31
this? Because we all scream
inside when people die and we
all know are headed there. And
00:49:41.31\00:49:49.88
we all I've seen the panic on
people's faces at the end
because they don't know Jesus
00:49:49.88\00:49:53.86
yet. Don't know what to expect.
What is in German the summers.
00:49:53.86\00:50:00.86
>> Harvest this past isn't
stating that that to me is the
saddest Texan, the I've had
00:50:00.86\00:50:07.34
all this time and I'm not saying
it. This is the biggest
question, isn't it? What does
00:50:07.34\00:50:15.04
life mean and what happens when
I punch out? Why was I here?
What comes next? Is
00:50:15.04\00:50:19.21
there something next? Do I learn
my whole life and then just
punch the clock at the
00:50:19.21\00:50:23.99
end, it all goes away. Do I
invest in people to invest in
relationships to I take
00:50:23.99\00:50:29.46
courses to a study and then
lights out, gone. What sense
00:50:29.46\00:50:35.00
does that make? >> It doesn't
make sense. It doesn't sit right
with any of us. No one, right,
00:50:35.00\00:50:39.53
right? Yeah. >> So if you're
somebody willing to cash in on
00:50:39.53\00:50:41.10
our deepest pain and lie to us,
yes, and that's why it's
important to know. That's
00:50:41.10\00:50:43.44
right. What about absent from
the body? My words that we got
left. have come from the body
00:50:43.44\00:50:56.99
greeted president. Yeah, yes.
Read it carefully. I highlight
this in my Bible with 3
00:50:56.99\00:51:00.99
different colors because talking
about 3 different things. read
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the whole thing from verse one.
We've got what, 5 minutes. This
is This is in Second Corinthians
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5. We can do this in 5 minutes.
5 minute Bible study. We could
do. know that there are 3
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conditions being described in
this story and you got to ask
yourself, which is which? For
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we know that if our earthly
house, this tensions destroyed,
what would that be?
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This by the I got now that's
falling to We have a building
from got a house not made with
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hands. Eternal in the Okay.
What's that? That would be
resurrection. yeah, I'm out of
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the grave with the body just
like Jesus chapter 3. Just like
his glorified body. This
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mortal shell put on immortality.
This corruptible should put
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Incorruption First Corinthians
15. So now we've got this body
falling to pieces in the new one
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that I get. Yeah. When Jesus
comes to a man. Get up, it's
time to go. Brand new body first
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to for in this we ground which
one that's broken body earnestly
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desire to be close with our
habitation, which is from
haven't. That's the new body.
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Newark right? Notice so far
they're both real bodies. He's
like I got this bad one. And
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when to get a good one, I got a
bad one. I'm going to get a good
one. First tonight, if indeed
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having been called, we shall not
be found, make it. There's the
3rd state. It's nothing. I got.
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Nobody doesn't mean that I'm
somewhere floating are thinking
now there's nothing.
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For we who are in this tent
grown this roughly being bird.
Not because we want to be an
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close. We don't want to be debt
is all that right. But further
club, I want my new
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body. I don't want to I don't
want the in between. That's
dead. That's right. Yes,
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there's another one out of may
be swallowed up by allies. Say
that one more time. want to
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know that he that mortality
maybe swallowed up by life, OK,
now this that crux of the
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issue, what are we? A lot of
right? Only got half the
mortality. First Timothy
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Chapter 6. Exact only got it
right. We are not naturally him
more. Now he was prepared
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us for this very thing is God
was also given us. The spirit is
a So we're always confident
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knowing that while we're at home
in the body, we are absent from
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the Lord with somebody with
deputies. This I'm not in Jesus
physical presence right now. Now
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he's in my feet were in his
presence or the spirit, but
physical presence. Jesus took
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physical form. Yes, were absent
from him right now to try we
walk by faith, not by
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sight, verse 8. We're confident.
Yes, well, please, rather to be
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absent from the body to be
present with the Lord. Absent
from this broken body. Yeah. And
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in my new one, I know ghost in
this story anywhere and
therefore we make it rain.
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Whether president absent to be
well-pleasing to him, there's no
ghost 3 conditions by the
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groaning busted body
resurrection, body or naked. And
by the way, the word death is
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never mentioned once. That's
interesting. And was never
mentioned and never mentioned
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die and present with the Lord
because it's just not in But we
read this with the lands of
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Alexandria and the philosopher's
and the Romans on and we see
yeah. After she'll know that it
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wouldn't even make sense. Chills
down there somewhere. And the
national of this is the trials
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of this life. Who who can wait.
>> How many of you cannot wait
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until the trials of the slide
for over you on the weather
trials of this life over.
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resting like Jesus told Mary and
Martha. Yes, and your brother
will rise again in the
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resurrection of the last day. So
that's the good news, Joe, all
the I appointed service, I
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will wait. But I was see my
Redeemer. Yeah. Stand on the
earth. I will see him in my
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flash right in my flesh that you
just you just whisper something.
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I want you to stay >> The
resurrection has been omitted in
Christianity. It's gone.
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>> Anyone's go the what Megan Go
to heaven. What there is no
resurrection went to the
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catacombs in Rome with the good
priest friend Jean and I met one
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Nice to see that great. That
great, big box. You know what so
big whole family wanted to be
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buried together. You know, I you
know why he said because for
hundreds of years, Christians
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understood that they would sleep
together to Jesus coming be
raised from the dead. They
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wanted to be together in a box
happened I said That's right. I
said are you are you telling
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me? They thought they would
sleep? Here to Jesus came, he
says for hundreds of years as
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that Christianity and the chap
in the Bible, he was 11. They
look forward to a better
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right? And the gravestones. And
the gravestones for the last
war. Goodbye But the but
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the Christians that see you in
the moment morning in the
morning. So I tell you, I want
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you to be able to give our
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That's right. Well, we have so
appreciate having you both
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here. Salute and a gene, we're
going to send a needed to this.
Not a suggestion, not a
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request. They said any addict.
>> Lock him out of his Handa
ties fee to the Betsy at like
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8 hours complete one day my
little foot will slip Haha. I
could. I Thank you so much
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think that program this program,
opened up some doors that need
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to be open to. So that's later
on. As you talk about a 17
prophecy, those tours could be
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clearly understood. An audience
is my root of it it would have
lot you. Thank you for that for
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listening on radio and watching
on television. We pray that the
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Lord will be the person that you
allowed to guide your life and
as a pass to Sean from history
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and his wife, Jean said when
that moment comes, you want
another truth. Well, this the
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network that promises to share
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