>> As you're well aware, we're
living in unprecedented times.
Join us now for today's
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Thursday night LIVE here at 3, a
B. And you know, it's going to
be all the way live because
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we have an exciting program. And
some on fire. Yes, I just really
want to say that we're
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on 5 people. >> I am so excited
about tonight's program going to
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be the last. We'll be talking
about spiritualism, but it's not
what you think is going to
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be is it? That's why there
isn't. There's a twist coming,
but you're not seeing. the
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more spiritual some slicing want
to talk about love. Well, love
is dimensional that the
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question is love of love him and
love of money. Most spiritualism
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is the very same way that
tonight. I don't want to hold
them in suspense to down. And I
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just want to first thank you for
your and your financial support
of this network as we continue
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going and growing, getting ready
for the coming of the Lord. You
know, this couple, honey has
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been a ministry for good while.
And why didn't you go ahead and
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introduced Emma, just have them
say little about themselves so
that our music. right. Let's do
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that. >> Well, I have Sean
Welcome. Thank you. And his
beautiful wife team. Thank
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Welcome. Thank you. Not tell us.
How long have you been married?
>> really, long 29 years, 20
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years. 28. And somewhere OK, you
have 2 to yes, our oldest
daughter got married a few
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months And our youngest is that
college on the West Coast. So we
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have now 2 daughters and a
asked. >> and more time on your
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hands. >> And you can walk
around your boxer shorts. He at
home at home. Yeah. Well, you
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know, it's been a pandemic for 2
years and the kids are gone.
Kind of get that he you know,
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Sean, give us an overview >>
praise the Lord for marriages.
We've seen you both
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do a lot of things even with
well, child impact, which was
we've and we do see that that
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wonderful piece. You do. You
kind of walk through the door
and in lunch in the kitchen,
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then you want. I was reading
that thing, but just give us
kind of a little background
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here. Some people watching this,
it can shown in Chamberlain
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struck. Other people are saying
who are they? that's most of Are
they? The sheriff knows and
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we're going a quick >> Jeanne, I
working at the voice of prophecy
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on the speaker. Director Gene is
the associate speaker for the
boys prophecy. And then
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therefore it's going on a deck,
a turret that wow there that
been in public ministry for 30
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years. This coming years, 30
years on the Sawdust Trail as an
evangelist and I'm Jeanne is
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now director of the Global
Children's Ministry, Discovery
Mountain radio drama for Kids.
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You know, that's what we are
yeah, and if I owe you money,
I'm not Oui, oui playboy. Some
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profits out for radio TV and
and a voice prophecy. Discovery
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Mountain Week. >> So blessed to
have voiced prophecy on 3ABN,
radio around the world to try to
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try it. >> And, Jeanne, when
anything to that? >> No, I think
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where it's exciting to be here.
Thank you for inviting It's
wonderful to share and
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fellowship in the ministry that
we do. And, you know, there are
a lot of things we do at voice
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of prophecy, but they all tied
together to evangelism. That's
really the heart and soul of
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what we do is a ministry that,
you know, it's amazing what it's
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amazing how people remember you.
>> A lot of people say, oh, I
know Sean Bunting, he's one
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that preaches with the shoes
off. due its is like. >> You
know what everybody
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tries to guess Why do you do
what you do that and >> I've
kept my mouth shut for
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years. Why? Why do that? And the
ladies always notice first in
every it not. Normally guys
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don't know this for like a week,
right? women like what he's done
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in his sock feet. And so most of
them guess and I wish this was
the truth. You guys, I wish this
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was the truth. They guess is it
because like you take them off
right when you praise because
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now it's ground taken, man. That
would have been a great thing to
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say because that would have
sanctified response. Now, really
3 reasons. Number one, I'm
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terrified of public speaking. I
can. 30 years and I think I'm
going to throw up every
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time. It's time to hold
evangelist. Maybe I can't get up
front. I don't even like
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birthday parties where everybody
turns and looks at you and start
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singing. Happy birthday. I am
really taking your shoes off.
Makes you feel a little more
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like you're in your own home.
Yes. Just like, okay, relax.
These are friends. reason one
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reason too? I got 2 different
sized feet was a 9 and a half
wins and 11. And I'm to chase
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areas. Yeah, yeah, I would. You
know if this wasn't polite
television and 3 of the and I
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put my feet up on the table and
prove it to you. But wow, maybe
we have a Kick the shoes
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off later and I'll show you 9
and a half and 11, 9 and socks.
I make them 2 different
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sizes. Yeah. Just latest on the
right. Because like I know, like
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I think it's because I wrecked
when a piece of equipment
college and work, some are
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building and who knows? Who
knows it's messed up. But I'm
too cheap to buy. Touche pairs
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of shoes. Okay. So what do you
buy? If you're 9 and a half and
11, you buy a 10 everywhere.
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That's what you You kick them
our first chance you get the 3rd
one clumsy. So I like feeling
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with my toes. Where's the edge
of the stage? Because ago? I was
speaking at these meetings and I
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was quoting the verse. Thy word
is a lamp. And to my I never got
to work feet out. And I fell
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right off the platform the
audience. And that's just like
stumbled via word is a lamp.
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It I mean, like the Saints not
like that. That text of all town
hall pass right in funny.
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It's like my angel probably
showed me thinking this is going
good. Just like that is
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show you're going to wipe out
right there and the Saints from
and you did that on
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purpose, right? No, no, it
really hurt. purpose. So now
because I like to get close to
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people when I talk because I'm
nervous. But if I can see your
eyes, your friends. So I get
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there and I one toe around the
edge and with your shoes off, I
know where edges. That makes
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sense. More sensitivity to where
you are. I'm glad you explained
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that because for years I always
thought it was a act of sanctity
and not time India when we went
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to the Hindu temple in India,
you have you have to take your
shoes off, even admonition.
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But I want to the end of church
is taking choose a path that I
said what they just But
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that's up to him to temper
the set. >> If you can take your
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shoes off or fall, Scott's
you've got to take him off of
that. In India, the first time I
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experienced at I thought this is
my tribe. They're all coming
off. The shoes are all
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coming right. Praise the Lord.
This is what havenots. No more
shoes. Yeah. There in Sri
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Lanka, they did the same thing
Thailand. Same thing and they
have an outside when you come
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to church, this all the shells
in the foyer where everybody
just put to use and they're
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there when you leave church.
Yeah, that's beautiful. I like
it. But put put that all
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aside. We have enjoyed. Tell us
something about some of the
programs you do because you
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have a really unique Syria's use
that, well, we've got a bunch of
unique series. You're
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talking about my Fen ticker. The
often. offended. Yeah. I kind of
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remade this. I thought, you know
what years ago I took over a
media ministry for somebody and
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then you kind of follow in their
footsteps and was it working?
Great? Yeah. But authentic is
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a new show. There's here on 3
ABN. Yes. See it right here. I
think Saturday night. And what
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we do is we take real questions
that people actually struggle
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with the kinds of questions
across every cultural barrier,
every generational barrier.
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>> Who am I? Why am I here? Does
life mean something? Why do I
suffer? Why is their
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pain? The existential questions?
But then instead of doing it as
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a, you know, a college
philosophy we do it for the guy
called Joe Six-pack comes home
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from work to stay with us.
Expect and he wrestles with
these things and maybe doesn't
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know if how to define those
issues. But he listens and
hitting. Look, I'm talking to
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the people that I grew up with.
I I'm not I'm a recovering
haven. I sat in those classes. I
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took those philosophy classes. I
drank it. Those fountains and I
thought these people are
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looking for answers and they
won't give this a chance because
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they've been told what's in
there. They think they know
what's in there. When we compare
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notes between like played on the
Bible and Aristotle and the
Bible and Emanuel Cont in the
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Bible and leave that's in the
Bible and need Che and the Bible
in Iran and the And that's what
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we're doing at the big, deep
questions and all the
philosopher said the dead and
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they're all struggling with the
same questions. And then I dare
the audience to read the
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Bible and it's really taken off.
Its people are writing in going,
okay. This is a little
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different and we even admit
we're Christians mess up. So
again, it's completely true.
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Medieval church was a disaster.
You're completely right about
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that. Let's give him credit
where credit's due. They
criticize it and they're not
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wrong about what we did. All
right. So admit it. It's time
for Christians to admit what we
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did, repent of it and then say,
you know, what we should have
been doing is reading this and
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maybe try reading this right.
And it's it seems to be working
pretty good. Wow, that's really,
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really good. But we're going to
dive into a program. And I just
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want to remind our viewers in
our listeners. >> We're going to
take some questions tonight the
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phone there for us. >> And
Jeanne will be answering the
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hard >> you can text your
questions into 6, 1, 8, 2, 2, 8,
3, 9, 7, 5, Well, you can e-mail
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us at LIVE at 3 ABN Dot Org TV.
Sorry. Let me say it again live
at 3 ABN DOT TV to try
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those. We e-mailed questions and
>> you might not know what you
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want to e-mail questions about
that in a moment. I know that
we're going to turn on the
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stow boy right after this news
we don't want chance to think
about because the topic
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spiritualism and by no means
that we'll be able to cover all
the corners of spirituals
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and but when allow Shawn and
chain tonight to really Cheney
tonight to really massage the
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topic and kind of tease us to
what's coming down the line
because it's very interesting
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things in the work and voice a
prophecy that we are privy to
we're not going to ask him to
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reveal all that tonight, but I
can guarantee you that your
appetite is going to be wet
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and you can have questions going
around in your mind. And as Sean
just said, some of the
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practical things of life that
you may have always wanted an
answer to and have heard
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philosophically, but we may talk
about it from the point of the
Bible tonight to bring
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some clarification. >> Well, we
got to share some wonderful
music with us. Well,
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Tim part is going to share a
wonderful rendition of this
power in the Blood.
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10. I was actually in my mind
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singing along with him tonight
to a lot of things together. And
he is a blessed man. He
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used his kids for the glory of
God. Absolutely. Thank you so
much for that. And this a
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perfect segue. We have problem
because when you when you dive
into spirituals and you've got
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to have how in the Yeah, well, I
mean, this is a topic that it's
a hot, hot topic because
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I want to have you just start
out, Sean, by diving into how
this topic of spiritualism
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caught your attention. Yeah. It
took you down the road that
you've gone down just kind of.
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>> I don't know if I can. You
know, I don't know if I can pick
one right on ramp to
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this. Most of these topics, we
create a new sort of mini series
documentary, a Voice, a
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prophecy every year and some of
them I work on for 2 years. Some
of them 20, this one's
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2025 years have been digging and
reading and I hated history. Is
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that even I mean, it's just like
what's the point? They're all
good. How are you going to
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change your mind about anything
and its Canadian history to book
and its That's the most boring
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history on Earth. I hated
history because like they're so
polite, they don't have
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revolutions. They don't do
anything. They apologize for
everything. It's like a hate
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history. Then it became a
Christian. And I start to
realize. That everything you
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find in this book and the Bible,
doesn't matter who wrote the
other history books
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will verify this and it enough.
I don't. How many volumes we've
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gotten house jeans. The history
Yeah. you to yesterday. Ally.
Try to >> I like to read primary
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sources. I like let's go back
let's see what these people were
saying in the times.
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Let's quit rate. I mean, don't
quit reading your college
textbooks but free go back
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read the original sources. And
saw how money is collected for
5,000 history books. It and I
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don't we try and way through 2
or 3 of those every week. Now my
and I you know, I quit
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sleeping years ago, I think,
right? Yeah, I just come to bed
for an hour. And I think,
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you know, I think you're like
this know I enjoy seeing I
finally but way to turn over
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big researcher. Yeah. I yeah.
How do you turn it off, man? >>
I literally decided How to
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turn it off. I work hard, sleep
hard and and I play hard. My
wife and I believe I
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shunning our do anything. But,
you know, but that's important
gives you a longer battery
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life. Yeah, I have heard average
about 4, 5 hours a night. That's
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it. I go into my study. I can't
help to interesting. But this
one I started collecting stuff
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years ago. I I and I wasn't in
it in the church. >> But
something bothered me
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about. Secret society. I know
that and we're going to name
them. I'm just trying say is
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one of the it was a no call
group. And at that site and for
some reason, I decided to
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engage the debate and I'm only
in my teen years and then I
started digging and we're in
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the world. Are they coming up
with this stuff? Lucifer is the
God of Light the jealous
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God that we're in the world to
begin the stuff up. And I
started digging all the way
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back to ancient Egypt. And read
original sources. And I
discovered there's this thing
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that there's this thread that
ties every system of belief in
the world together, there's
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only 2 religions in the world
period. One thread you find in
the Abraham face the in the
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scriptures to jail. Christian.
Perspective on who people are.
What is the nature of a human
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being? And then there's an
entire system that feeds every
other belief system that
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exists anywhere on the face of
the planet and they're all
linked together. So 20 years
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of reading that stuff. And now
we've put together a brand-new
series, The Voice of Process
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putting out here in a couple of
months, April called The You can
you can find out about
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It's called the serpent teen
prophecy. And we're going to
start in the oldest used
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archives on the planet and a
write-down of modern day and
asked the question, you know
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what, what Plato and Hitler have
in common. What Where did where
did all these idea that
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there everybody turns out is
drinking from the same found and
in the look and feel of
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this. Well, we have some good on
that or we let's do You here's
here's a little trip.
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Let's let's run that beautiful
trailer footage. This is what
does certainty props. It kind
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of looks and feels like and then
we'll unpack it a little bit.
OK? Sounds Thank you.
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forces. ¤ ¤
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>> they trying to take us?
¤ >> The prophecy. This story
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you weren't
supposed to hear. ¤ ¤
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>> I a coming to a theater near
you. guy who read that for us
does do those movie
00:20:45.77\00:20:53.01
trailers and all He's kind of
latched on to the voice of
prophecy and kind of likes us.
00:20:53.01\00:20:56.69
praise the Lord. Yeah, that is
ferry. Put it this way. It's the
bait. We'll get the
00:20:56.69\00:21:05.03
audience who may be for this.
yeah. oversell the right. The
creative team made that look
00:21:05.03\00:21:09.10
really, really good. And then
I'm going to walk out and but
00:21:09.10\00:21:19.57
no. >> Its documentary style
District, 4 episodes here and
you can find it. You go to the
00:21:19.57\00:21:23.31
serpent prophecy dot com.
This is going to air across the
00:21:23.31\00:21:27.42
country. >> Probably in an
auditorium near you. So property
dot com in April. And there are
00:21:27.42\00:21:33.29
study materials that go with it.
You can dig in a group setting
along as it for it runs 4
00:21:33.29\00:21:37.36
episodes, OK, 4 episodes. Yeah.
Length of general length of an
episode. The episodes
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are 30 minutes and then there's
a discussion group for another
30 45 minutes after
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that. So the whole thing's an
hour hour and 15 minutes and
will be for 4 episodes. I
00:21:46.43\00:21:51.11
think you'll be glad that you
went to this course are punting
prophecy dot com free.
00:21:51.11\00:21:58.18
it wasn't free to make, but it's
and that the issue behind that
is well, not the issue
00:21:58.18\00:22:01.95
behind it, but a lot of the
backdrop of that is what you
have been learning right?
00:22:01.95\00:22:06.35
Thank you for. converted him
back to his. I think it has paid
off. Well, hasn't Yes.
00:22:06.35\00:22:17.17
the backdrop is this whole
ideology. >> That you discovered
00:22:17.17\00:22:21.60
in your research and tell us a
little about that. And you know
that the what's the biggest
00:22:21.60\00:22:24.07
question in the world? >> What
is the biggest question? The
00:22:24.07\00:22:28.48
world for most people and you're
asking but authentic. I kind of
Dilly dallying that. What are
00:22:28.48\00:22:31.75
we? What are we? What is this?
Why am I here? What's a human
being? And if you go to the
00:22:31.75\00:22:37.99
scriptures, you find a
surprising there that some
people like it describes a
00:22:37.99\00:22:41.62
real physical existence. And
most of the world for most of
history hasn't believe that
00:22:41.62\00:22:45.89
about us. I think we're
something other than just a real
physical existence. And I
00:22:45.89\00:22:50.10
found fascinating that Jesus,
when he comes. It says he comes
in the flash. He's a
00:22:50.10\00:22:57.91
real person. That right? sleep.
Some breezes are real person as
00:22:57.91\00:23:00.88
it seems like made this way in
the beginning in in Eden. The
Bible tells a story we were
00:23:00.88\00:23:07.85
made. Touch things with our
hands it to taste food and to
see debris. This is it. This is
00:23:07.85\00:23:12.09
what God intended. And then
within floater. But and I
started to get in. There's only
00:23:12.09\00:23:17.19
one other perspective. When
other perspective is Pagan world
view. And that's what we're
00:23:17.19\00:23:20.53
going pack a little bit in the
serpent in prophecy. And when
you when you look at the pagan
00:23:20.53\00:23:24.87
world view, that teaching pretty
simple. I took a look at that.
That's profits or you
00:23:24.87\00:23:28.27
see that the you take your
glasses. like And a friend in
college. He used to have no
00:23:28.27\00:23:34.54
glass in his glasses, but he
used to where I'm just so we
could take them off during a I
00:23:34.54\00:23:39.38
know you do >> the other
perspective is that we all
00:23:39.38\00:23:45.92
struggle with this idea where we
come from and we have trouble
believing the materialist view
00:23:45.92\00:23:48.82
that we're taught today that the
list, if you were taught to days
somehow Adams bouncing around
00:23:48.82\00:23:52.39
in space hit each other. And
here I am a conscious human
being self-aware of my own
00:23:52.39\00:23:56.93
existence and I can contemplate
the meaning of my life. It
happened by accident.
00:23:56.93\00:24:01.44
No, no, no. We all know mind
must have come before matter.
Somebody was thinking before
00:24:01.44\00:24:06.24
the universe is made. It doesn't
work any other way. Right up a
gun said that's all
00:24:06.24\00:24:09.44
there was was a great big cloud
out there in space have missed
the mind of God and the
00:24:09.44\00:24:16.02
mine started to congeal and
became a giant plant and filled
the universe. And then
00:24:16.02\00:24:20.02
it became in vegetable matter
than animal. And then >> it
became man. But that was
00:24:20.02\00:24:24.36
a big mistake. Becoming physical
was a big, big mistake and it
00:24:24.36\00:24:29.66
happened because they said
Saturn, the God of death, who's
the last planet in the solar
00:24:29.66\00:24:34.47
system. He's what the pagans
were called limit her. The
serpent that that stopped
00:24:34.47\00:24:40.54
creation from happening in
expanding and getting more
beautiful. And he brings death
00:24:40.54\00:24:45.51
to the world. The ancient pagan
is used to portray Saturday as
the Grim Reaper. With the side
00:24:45.51\00:24:49.48
the hood and the whole thing and
and as a serpent that brought
death to this world
00:24:49.48\00:24:56.59
bashing murder. That story stem
from, you know, where the
paintings pick that little
00:24:56.59\00:24:58.96
thread up right? So we were
supposed to, but death brings us
into a material existence
00:24:58.96\00:25:04.20
and now we're trapped in these
physical. Bodies. Where did that
idea come from? A lot of
00:25:04.20\00:25:08.77
people still okay for plate. No.
Plato's allegory of the cave.
Remember taking that one
00:25:08.77\00:25:15.58
in college? nothing is real.
Right? trapped in a cave were
staring at the showers in the
00:25:15.58\00:25:20.18
wall. The realities behind
us and all we could see as the
00:25:20.18\00:25:23.08
shadows. >> What he's saying is
physically existence isn't real.
That's the pagan world
00:25:23.08\00:25:27.39
It's not real. This isn't real.
This is not perfect. Somebody
messed up when they
00:25:27.39\00:25:30.39
made a physical world. They call
them the Demi urge. God wouldn't
have done this. Some
00:25:30.39\00:25:35.60
lesser being made a mess out of
this and I'm trapped in a
physical body. And when I die,
00:25:35.60\00:25:40.77
I'm going to rejoin the great
mind in the universe. Like a
spark going back to the
00:25:40.77\00:25:44.17
original flame, which is why
Socrates when he's condemned to
death. Any sitting with the
00:25:44.17\00:25:49.18
young people in prison, they're
all crying are great. Teachers
can and I don't know.
00:25:49.18\00:25:52.65
Drink. Drink the poison. Hemlock
ISIS. You kidding testing. So
00:25:52.65\00:25:56.48
we're going to happen in the
philosopher. I'm gonna leave
this body finally in float
00:25:56.48\00:26:00.36
around the universe. Go back to
the divine mind. Kind of like
Nirvana, right? It's not right.
00:26:00.36\00:26:07.03
As such an old teaching and play
too. If you dig in, if you get
past what sign in college, he
00:26:07.03\00:26:10.37
starts telling the story of
where he learned stuff. And he
says this was fascinating.
00:26:10.37\00:26:16.07
Ready, put the tin foil hat on
because this the story gets a
little bit where we can put on
00:26:16.07\00:26:19.94
the tin foil in his book.
Christians. Plato says there was
once a civilized out of
00:26:19.94\00:26:25.61
the book. Again, Christian CRI
Tia probably pronounced Can a
that we all played a was a
00:26:25.61\00:26:33.36
Canadian had to be right must.
That's boss trillion. >> He
makes an admission. We
00:26:33.36\00:26:44.20
give him credit. He came up with
this idea Dualistic universe
00:26:44.20\00:26:48.37
perfection disembodied an
imperfection is in body. And we
give him credit. He says no, no,
00:26:48.37\00:26:52.71
no. I went to school in Egypt.
So that by factors so that
everybody all earned it, and
00:26:52.71\00:26:59.55
my great uncle. Great, great,
great uncle. So lawn used to
tell us the story when a way
00:26:59.55\00:27:04.22
back when that there was this
other civilization that attacked
00:27:04.22\00:27:07.86
after this is what Plato said.
Yeah, he writes, this increases.
He says there is a civilization
00:27:07.86\00:27:12.36
that existed. He calls them.
Atlanta sits where the whole
story of Atlantis comes from.
00:27:12.36\00:27:16.26
All the conspiracy theorists are
drinking at that found. Making
it weird. But he speaks
00:27:16.26\00:27:20.84
about this was a real place.
They attacked us and they all
used to live moral lives and
00:27:20.84\00:27:27.34
follow the will of God they live
follow. God's moral law says
essentially what he says.
00:27:27.34\00:27:33.35
>> He says then they listen to
the serpent. And they became
corrupted and they were
00:27:33.35\00:27:37.42
destroyed in a flood. So he's
talking about a pre flood,
civilized nation and no wonder
00:27:37.42\00:27:44.86
where they got that from. Where
did you get that from OK? Some
00:27:44.86\00:27:46.86
of them fled. They brought their
ideas to Egypt and the Greek
philosopher said we've been down
00:27:46.86\00:27:52.77
underneath the temple's. We've
been down in the holes. They
tell this old story. We used to
00:27:52.77\00:27:55.37
be the missed God and we became
plans unmanned. Then they had
this philosopher in Egypt. His
00:27:55.37\00:28:01.44
name was far off. Yeah. It's
like Tha t the packets of coffee
00:28:01.44\00:28:12.25
get Taco Bell. >> FOX was a real
teacher or real philosopher and
he's credited for giving the
00:28:12.25\00:28:15.56
Egyptians the gift of learning
and writing and the great
teacher, the sage when he
00:28:15.56\00:28:21.63
dies, he so revered that they
deify him when he becomes the
got off the one with the I
00:28:21.63\00:28:24.80
know you're into the Egyptian.
We're not into the Egyptian
rights letters misstated that.
00:28:24.80\00:28:31.37
But you know, you're Egyptian
gods. He storm with the ibis
head on. He's defied the
00:28:31.37\00:28:34.71
Greeks, get their learn about
this guy. And what did he learn?
Well, far off road. I
00:28:34.71\00:28:40.78
was visited by the Great Dragon
point injuries and and Reece
00:28:40.78\00:28:45.92
taught me that the universe is
once and missed and we're not
supposed to be in physical
00:28:45.92\00:28:48.49
bodies and were supposed to
float away. One day. It says it.
The Greeks learn they love them
00:28:48.49\00:28:53.16
so much. They rename him Hermes,
Hermes trust, not just The
messenger And from there, he
00:28:53.16\00:29:00.24
wrote a volume called the
hermetic. It's still for sale in
called bookstores. Don't
00:29:00.24\00:29:04.07
recommend getting it. Don't
called books, but it's still for
sale to this day and that
00:29:04.07\00:29:07.98
becomes the source book for
Greek philosophy for Babylonian
religion, for the schools in
00:29:07.98\00:29:14.18
Alexandria, for all the
alchemists in Egypt for Madame
Le Vot Ski and stuffy that she
00:29:14.18\00:29:20.22
that was her textbook. It's
obvious when you read lavazza,
Ken, you shouldn't read But
00:29:20.22\00:29:24.26
when you read below lot ski,
she's quoting from her Medica.
Alright tells a story.
00:29:24.26\00:29:29.80
Atlantis was only the 4th race
in this world. The 4 full route
grace. She says there's
00:29:29.80\00:29:34.64
going to be 7 in the next one is
going to be the areas. They're
symbols, the swastika.
00:29:34.64\00:29:38.77
She's reading this in the 18.
Germany in the meantime, is
going through a revival of
00:29:38.77\00:29:41.61
seance is and so on. do you
think they got the idea that the
area and should be the
00:29:41.61\00:29:46.82
master It wasn't through
pseudoscience. Even it was. It's
a on says it was called
00:29:46.82\00:29:52.15
studies. They sent a delegation
to do that. Looking for looking
00:29:52.15\00:30:00.03
for these masters that were left
over apparently from Atlantis
who they thought were hiding in
00:30:00.03\00:30:02.90
the mountains of Tibet. All the
people who learn us the
Bulldogs. He went to India to
00:30:02.90\00:30:08.57
learn that she thought she was
finding the ascendant mass
troops on It all comes down to.
00:30:08.57\00:30:14.21
2 schools of thought. There's
one school that says we're not
supposed to be in physical
00:30:14.21\00:30:17.41
bodies. All right. Something's
wrong with this world. The right
about that. I suffered must be
00:30:17.41\00:30:21.85
something wrong with this world.
The Pagan said, well, maybe got
messed up. Because I
00:30:21.85\00:30:28.69
suffer. You know, I got in
perfection. So I got one foot
bigger the other creation. Is
00:30:28.69\00:30:32.23
I must be something better than
that. Something Des embodied and
00:30:32.23\00:30:42.90
then we've got the biblical
worldview or Jesus comes a real
flesh and blood human being. He
00:30:42.90\00:30:46.01
leaves this world. As a real
flesh and blood human being
could not touch me guys. I'm not
00:30:46.01\00:30:52.51
right. eat some fission. Has
some honey come have meal for
the road. Doesn't drop He's
00:30:52.51\00:30:59.52
he'll write Israel and he goes
to heaven real. And then the
angel saying next, chapter
00:30:59.52\00:31:03.56
one, the same. Jesus is coming
back again, real physical yet
he's the son of man. What is
00:31:03.56\00:31:08.80
happening? isn't revelation
takes up home with us here. We
were always supposed to be
00:31:08.80\00:31:13.00
like this is only 2 schools of
thought. The Bible says this is
what God designed. We've
00:31:13.00\00:31:16.57
messed it up. Look at that sign.
Take a school of thought says.
This is a big mistake.
00:31:16.57\00:31:26.31
Creationism mistake. Who would
be saying creation is a big
mistake. We're supposed to be
00:31:26.31\00:31:29.72
Spirit Day. Stripping. So. My
goodness in this, we're going to
pack. It start in ancient
00:31:29.72\00:31:37.49
Egypt. We're going to go all the
way down through time through
Greece. We're going to
00:31:37.49\00:31:39.56
look at some Greek myths and
show that they're not telling
what the story people think.
00:31:39.56\00:31:46.00
They're A lot of them are
stories about how we're trapped
in physical bodies.
00:31:46.00\00:31:50.24
Not really about God's on
Olympus to didn't believe the
regatta on Olympus, their Alec
00:31:50.24\00:31:54.21
arising. All these stories from
the hermetic, a and they're
teaching what today is
00:31:54.21\00:31:59.91
still taught. They taught in the
mystery schools and today secret
society still teach it
00:31:59.91\00:32:03.79
and he's all out of the same
textbook. Only 2 systems of
belief in this world. So
00:32:03.79\00:32:07.66
that's kind of where we're going
with We get all the original
sources. We're going
00:32:07.66\00:32:11.79
to impact this in detail. Show
how Hitler got involved in this.
How involved in this,
00:32:11.79\00:32:16.60
how the medieval alchemists were
involved in it. It's been we've
been drinking from the
00:32:16.60\00:32:20.14
fountain for a really, really
long time. Certain rip the
band-aid off. And then at the
00:32:20.14\00:32:23.51
end of the program. I'm going to
spend the night in the most
haunted room in America and
00:32:23.51\00:32:31.15
see if the goes really can come
visit you. They're going to ask
the question, can the
00:32:31.15\00:32:33.88
dead speak to us and the dead
speak to us because the pagan
say yes. What does the Bible
00:32:33.88\00:32:37.32
say? That's right. Brought up
that that that that what you
just said over the last 7, 10,
00:32:37.32\00:32:47.00
15 Go on for hours. Haha. But
here's the point. Here's the
point. A lot of people.
00:32:47.00\00:32:50.77
>> You caught the attention of
some of the people that
understand that and other
00:32:50.77\00:32:55.37
people have that dog whistle
head Yeah. So if you were to
distill that to the guy that
00:32:55.37\00:33:02.88
says, OK, I created by God,
right? Help me understand the
other side of that because,
00:33:02.88\00:33:06.88
you know, there's even an avenue
with this school of thought
00:33:06.88\00:33:12.19
permeates Christianity, right,
Okay. That's where the it comes
to the brass tacks. We still
00:33:12.19\00:33:18.66
hear it today. Mom in heaven,
papas and looking down on us.
They're angels them. Michael,
00:33:18.66\00:33:22.63
talk to the dead people. People
talk to the dead Friday Distil
that down to the common
00:33:22.63\00:33:28.30
Kai was just going to church
feelings cars with gas once a
week. Yeah, I know. And that
00:33:28.30\00:33:33.07
was One point, Jim. The question
is what did God make? And when
he stepped back and
00:33:33.07\00:33:40.58
said it is very good. What what
do you say that about? Many
Asian? He said that about
00:33:40.58\00:33:46.15
a real man, real woman. That's
right. The real thing we were
made to live real lives. It
00:33:46.15\00:33:51.26
was a big light bulb moment from
a site. It's meant to be real.
And when Jesus wanted to
00:33:51.26\00:33:55.30
identify with us, he became
real. Person. Try stays that
way. He comes back. And if you
00:33:55.30\00:34:03.20
read revelation, talks about a
new earth and we're planting
gardens and we're doing things
00:34:03.20\00:34:06.64
and >> I know, but you
guys, I want to float around the
00:34:06.64\00:34:09.91
cloud. I just don't know you
know, thanks. That's like that
whole line. as you're putting
00:34:09.91\00:34:14.78
this together and you're looking
at the different angles of it.
00:34:14.78\00:34:19.05
>> People task those. Elementary
questions so are you saying that
00:34:19.05\00:34:26.76
we should have been a spirit? We
ended up in the body. That's
what the pagans to chest. The
00:34:26.76\00:34:34.20
Pagan said it was a mistake,
physical bodies for a mistake.
>> They taught that the real
00:34:34.20\00:34:39.14
God would never do anything as
dirty your low down as creating
00:34:39.14\00:34:46.28
a physical limit. chance to
Yeah, why would God do And
that's the pagans with say that.
00:34:46.28\00:34:50.69
And so they don't even give
creation to the almighty God.
They call him the Demi urge.
00:34:50.69\00:34:54.09
This one being that came out of
God emanated from him and he
messed up creation and botched
00:34:54.09\00:35:00.70
it. The pagans will even tell
you some of them, depending on
their tradition. If you talk
00:35:00.70\00:35:02.76
about Americans sort of Mystics
Mike Manley p hall, some of
these guys right? They'll tell
00:35:02.76\00:35:11.01
you that that was actually just
over the botched. Lucifer comes
here to fix it. Was the
00:35:11.01\00:35:15.91
God of light who will really
shoot back to higher forms of
knowledge. And you can be like
00:35:15.91\00:35:19.68
the gods, which is what he said
to even that are exactly right.
You will exalt to a
00:35:19.68\00:35:25.69
higher level. follow my plan.
Home message is somehow got in
the state. This isn't what
00:35:25.69\00:35:29.49
you're supposed to be. >> This
is what we're supposed to pay.
00:35:29.49\00:35:32.96
All right. This is what we're
supposed to be. And I want to
give too much away because I
00:35:32.96\00:35:39.03
want people to watch prophecy.
one of the things I thought we
could do tonight is maybe a
00:35:39.03\00:35:45.11
Bible study. he's a little bit.
Do we have time for a oh, yes,
we know we now and I want remind
00:35:45.11\00:35:48.08
our listeners and viewers, he
was a phone number again, OK? It
00:35:48.08\00:35:55.95
618-228-3975. >> 6, 1, 8, 2, 2,
8, 3, 9, 75 try e-mail live at 3
ABN DOT TV. Now what? What a
00:35:55.95\00:36:05.63
show that questions in. That's
where the questions are to be
sent as he gave a tease of 4 to
00:36:05.63\00:36:12.87
17, were often see this
four-part series and the
research that goes behind it. We
00:36:12.87\00:36:17.67
want to let you also know that
on the on Deb local level, there
are a lot of questions that
00:36:17.67\00:36:26.31
we're going to go. We're going
to dive to AL with one of the
stories in the Bible. That
00:36:26.31\00:36:28.32
seems to be. Wrapped in some of
this mystical ideology. And I
want you to take us there to
00:36:28.32\00:36:39.26
which Yeah, Samuel White Walkers
are because this is one of the
stories that people
00:36:39.26\00:36:42.66
try to refer to to verify some
of the ideologies that, hey,
we're not. All right. Human
00:36:42.66\00:36:47.34
rights form. Yeah. The big
question we're going to ask
Mister Putin is kinda did
00:36:47.34\00:36:51.67
speak to you. >> One in 6
American says yes, they've heard
00:36:51.67\00:36:55.34
from the dead one in 6 right
now. You know, the question is,
how does that work? In? One of
00:36:55.34\00:37:04.39
the things we're going look at
first saying the 20 because
you're right, this most
00:37:04.39\00:37:06.76
confusing stories in the entire
Bible. Sean, as you know what's
going on and seems like God
00:37:06.76\00:37:13.70
condones all this stuff. You say
often that chapter and say I was
a big in America in the 19th
00:37:13.70\00:37:17.87
century. Everybody want to it.
Darwin went to one Lincoln went
to one. Yeah, I was to
00:37:17.87\00:37:24.17
Carly house Crowley, went to
quite a is a library card punch
quite a few times. the
00:37:24.17\00:37:35.08
B, 6, 6, 6 Allister Crowley,
man. What a fought. The father
of Mott Modern Spiritualism.
00:37:35.08\00:37:42.19
Absolutely. >> Absolutely. Every
Satanism and it's deeper than
00:37:42.19\00:37:45.99
It's deeper than that. Here is
what we want to do. I want to
look at this story and we just
00:37:45.99\00:37:51.13
described the pagan world view.
Yes, right? >> The pagan world
00:37:51.13\00:37:55.00
view. The mystical God. Yeah.
Did mist in the universe?
Nothing's real. We're not
00:37:55.00\00:38:00.54
supposed to be physical. And I
want to ask one question, right.
And 1, 1, thing we should
00:38:00.54\00:38:05.51
probably set the table with and
then we'll look at the story
together. Is the pagan concept
00:38:05.51\00:38:12.55
of the universe where the gods
are above us in the heavens. We
live here on this physical
00:38:12.55\00:38:15.79
plane trapped here and down
underneath the earth. Is the
underworld. And when you die,
00:38:15.79\00:38:22.43
that's where you go to the
underworld as a ghost. And some
of, you know, the stories
00:38:22.43\00:38:27.77
that we're talking high school
and stuff. You got a crisscross
the river, Styx and
00:38:27.77\00:38:30.77
you go into the underworld after
the coin on your stuff. That's
it. And they call that
00:38:30.77\00:38:33.38
under were she'll that's the
underworld. She that's the pagan
concept. She'll it was
00:38:33.38\00:38:41.08
called Sh well, when you
translate on days for ICE. Yeah,
that's that's exact on
00:38:41.08\00:38:45.85
was taking out of her medical.
You're OK? He borrowed straight
out of that textbook.
00:38:45.85\00:38:50.19
You can almost see him
plagiarizing. shield the
underworld. To the canaanite
00:38:50.19\00:38:57.67
to the phoenicians. They call
it. She'll it's the shadowy
world of the dead. They go
00:38:57.67\00:39:01.37
down there and knows what goes
on down. There is just shadowy
and weird. The keepers also
00:39:01.37\00:39:04.87
use the word she'll. But to the
you, Bruce, it's a grave that
means how do I know? Job
00:39:04.87\00:39:15.02
when he suffering says man, I
wish I could go she'll. think
what you mean. We should go.
00:39:15.02\00:39:18.49
She'll to that place of torment
for the shadowy underworld of
00:39:18.49\00:39:21.99
the dead. Like why would you
want to the tormented morning?
He just in his concept, the
00:39:21.99\00:39:26.80
Hebrew concept of shield is just
the grave. Jacob says when he's
dying, I'm about to go to
00:39:26.80\00:39:33.10
she'll Jacob is real good about
to go to shadowy world of the
and no, no, no. They
00:39:33.10\00:39:37.97
just meant the grave. And that's
the setting. We need to ask
ourselves when we get into
00:39:37.97\00:39:40.71
the story of the Witch of
Indoor. What is the story? Is
this an Abraham story? Is this
00:39:40.71\00:39:46.92
a Bible stories? This God
telling a story or is this God
showing us somebody else's
00:39:46.92\00:39:52.09
perspective? Who are these
people and what do they believe?
Are they in the pagan
00:39:52.09\00:39:56.22
camper than Abrahams camp?
That's the could setting. I like
the way you set that up
00:39:56.22\00:40:01.60
because there are a lot of
stories told in Scripture which
00:40:01.60\00:40:05.60
we miss. >> The other speaking
to the understanding of the
people of that day so they could
00:40:05.60\00:40:10.71
grab. And yeah, so such a rich
man and sitting Richmond last
recess that they knew what he
00:40:10.71\00:40:16.34
was saying. Then they do that
today. We put it in a different
00:40:16.34\00:40:19.95
context. Amiss the bridge that
he built between to
understanding the mindset and
00:40:19.95\00:40:24.95
what he was actually using as an
object lesson to really drive
home. A solid point. Yeah, he
00:40:24.95\00:40:29.29
was using the language in the
understanding understanding of
their day and this one of the
00:40:29.29\00:40:33.50
stories that also brings that in
absolutely. So first we go in
for Sam Neill over 28 chapter.
00:40:33.50\00:40:39.03
28, saw with what for >> Oath.
3 Yeah. Kick the ball downfield.
00:40:39.03\00:40:46.51
Alright, alright Bible stuff. So
maybe we should just set the
historical context of where this
00:40:46.51\00:40:49.68
this story is happening. Of we
all. >> You know, we're familiar
with Samuel, the profit and
00:40:49.68\00:40:56.92
with the first king of Israel,
that's that's all. And so here
we're at the point of time
00:40:56.92\00:41:03.32
coming toward the end of Saul's
David has already been and we we
00:41:03.32\00:41:11.13
understand that he is to be the
next king. And so here we have
this this time now, Samuel has
00:41:11.13\00:41:18.91
actually died and we pick up the
story and that's how the verse
begins. Verse 3. Now, Samuel had
00:41:18.91\00:41:21.61
died and all Israel have
lamented for him and buried him
in drama in his own city and saw
00:41:21.61\00:41:28.35
had put the mediums and the
spirit out of the land. So it's
interesting set up to
00:41:28.35\00:41:34.12
that that that that the king had
actually made that decision to
00:41:34.12\00:41:42.73
send away the and the spirit.
The spirit just your test. The
spirit a Why? Yeah, yeah. Of
00:41:42.73\00:41:48.80
course. That I mean that was
biblical for him to do that. God
said now kick them And this not
00:41:48.80\00:41:53.64
the way we do things. They have
to go silent. Getting Saul said.
>> be on the gun. Go right.
00:41:53.64\00:42:01.18
Right. Know there is good
Deuteronomy 18 Leviticus. 19 got
Drive him out of the land.
00:42:01.18\00:42:05.49
Get rid of them. This is
dangerous. why would that
dangerous? That's the question
00:42:05.49\00:42:09.76
that I'd go into the story with
winds at dangerous. As a matter
00:42:09.76\00:42:15.23
of fact. >> 20's, what we always
like the coast we can monitor
yet. But first, 19 is the Yeah.
00:42:15.23\00:42:20.74
Sure that people seek the debt
on behalf of the live event
right? That's the key. So we
00:42:20.74\00:42:24.71
we could I say a 22 launches has
gone. It was that was a test to
make sure they are not
00:42:24.71\00:42:31.65
spirit. Is there not medium
stand, not sorceress right was
not just about the command.
00:42:31.65\00:42:35.92
Now that said I've had a lot of
mediums. Tell me, hey, Sean,
what we do lines up with
00:42:35.92\00:42:39.02
the scriptures. This is just God
speaking through another avenue.
00:42:39.02\00:42:44.73
Oh, no. Oh, no, my friend. No,
no, no, no, God. Shut this down.
a chance. Why would the dead and
00:42:44.73\00:42:48.73
the living go to the debt? >>
There's a warning here already.
00:42:48.73\00:42:54.10
There's something dangerous
here. Don't I messed with this,
right? Right. This isn't what
00:42:54.10\00:42:57.97
you think it is. And the way its
record it that way in scripture.
You know, it's sort of like it's
00:42:57.97\00:43:02.21
served like a warning to us as
we read the story. Hey, you're
about to read of an event that
00:43:02.21\00:43:07.02
that really happened. But keep
in mind, the contacts and the
biblical, you know, setting of
00:43:07.02\00:43:11.65
these >> yeah, she keep going.
Let's go to All right. For
00:43:11.65\00:43:17.93
sport. Then the Philae Stein's
gathered together and came and
encamped at showing them so
00:43:17.93\00:43:23.00
saw gathered all Israel together
and they encamped in Gilboa when
00:43:23.00\00:43:27.84
saw saw the army of the
Philistines. He was afraid and
his heart trembled greatly. So
00:43:27.84\00:43:35.14
that again sets the context for
us of, you know, why I saw the
king was heat rumbling, great
00:43:35.14\00:43:40.58
ways you know, God was not with
them in this in this situation
anymore. And, you know, God is
00:43:40.58\00:43:45.25
really not was fall and more
number 6 in one saw inquired of
the Lord. The Lord did not
00:43:45.25\00:43:52.76
answer him. So he's ghost to got
to ask him about this situation
00:43:52.76\00:43:56.40
with Phil Science. The Lord
answer him either by dreams or
buy, are by the profits.
00:43:56.40\00:44:04.97
question there. God will not
speak to us all through the
appointed means. That's right.
00:44:04.97\00:44:11.81
Right? That's shut down your in
unfaithful case. You're
completely unfaithful.
00:44:11.81\00:44:14.12
>> I'm not talking to you
anymore. You've gone off the
tracks. Well, if he's not in
00:44:14.12\00:44:18.95
the camp of God, there's only
really 2 systems of belief he's
moved into. The other one
00:44:18.95\00:44:21.96
they got we're not talking
anymore. And I'll have people
say, you know, Sean, in this
00:44:21.96\00:44:26.43
story, though, there's a
communication and it's pretty
convincing. And I think God
00:44:26.43\00:44:30.63
used this to to to send a
signal. This is God doing this.
00:44:30.63\00:44:34.50
Somehow she got sometimes does
this. The question we have to
answer and ask is if God forbid
00:44:34.50\00:44:40.68
it. Any one of them all driven
out of the won't talk to us all.
What are the odds? He's going to
00:44:40.68\00:44:43.61
do it through a sales. Right?
Right. A side note. Do know we
shut this down? No, right.
00:44:43.61\00:44:52.69
He's panicking because he knows
he's in big trouble. He's lost
God. And now we have
00:44:52.69\00:44:54.72
to solve his own problems. And
so it goes knocking on another
00:44:54.72\00:45:02.76
Yeah. So. >> Yeah, he's he's
faced with this enemy. Yeah. And
and he's afraid he's afraid. And
00:45:02.76\00:45:06.43
then what he does next I think
is what we often have a human
tendency to do. Unfortunately,
00:45:06.43\00:45:11.01
is we want we don't hear from
God. Why fix it We have our own
human ideas of how things
00:45:11.01\00:45:16.68
should proceed next. But just
like it doesn't go well for us.
Typically when we choose
00:45:16.68\00:45:22.65
that path, it's not going to go
well for us all And yeah, when
when you get scared. You
00:45:22.65\00:45:27.16
go anywhere. Go anywhere. We'll
try anything sometimes looking
for which I've got a
00:45:27.16\00:45:36.46
grating. Keep on. Yeah. Sure. I
was okay. Then Saul said to his
servants, find me a woman
00:45:36.46\00:45:41.54
who is a medium that I may go to
her and inquire of her. >> And
his servants said to
00:45:41.54\00:45:46.61
him, in fact, there is a woman
who is a medium at end or and of
course, he'd already
00:45:46.61\00:45:52.28
actually sent them out of line.
But there was still one there.
00:45:52.28\00:45:54.65
So she was clearly working
underground. Well, yeah. >> You
00:45:54.65\00:45:58.22
never notice when George Lucas
released the Star Wars films and
I was in the Christian at the
00:45:58.22\00:46:04.26
time, of course, I watch those
back in the 70's and >> and at
the very sand to the
00:46:04.26\00:46:09.33
scene, they they're there with
the e walks and suddenly the
ghost of Obi Wan Kenobi shows
00:46:09.33\00:46:12.30
up at the party. He's dressed in
a mantle and they're all on the
moon of indoor. You stink.
00:46:12.30\00:46:19.84
if you get that from, that's
right. And also what's going to
be do that is that they're
00:46:19.84\00:46:27.88
to Andorra was the wasn't door.
And I saw that's right. And the
00:46:27.88\00:46:35.79
door, make a cute little nose
quickly. but also the mediums
are another phrase for mediums
00:46:35.79\00:46:44.23
nowadays is. >> A fortune
tellers of today, psychics,
true. They're still doing. It
00:46:44.23\00:46:51.04
big on They look so good, don't
they? I addressed that in this
topic on suspicions of the
00:46:51.04\00:46:52.97
Knesset, hip, different together
yet what the devil is doing
there's a phrase that time
00:46:52.97\00:46:56.68
I've heard before. He has
converted after the modern order
things he always seeks
00:46:56.68\00:47:03.55
to redress and all lie. And new
car garments to to access a new
audience. And that's
00:47:03.55\00:47:10.33
what's happening Yeah, what I
find it should you say that and
00:47:10.33\00:47:13.36
hear here is an interesting
thing that I've noticed. >> And
you know that in the
00:47:13.36\00:47:18.43
1800 seance were huge in America
in huge, huge, huge. And you
00:47:18.43\00:47:22.74
start reading what people of the
spirits told us this. And they
told us that told us that since
00:47:22.74\00:47:26.81
about the 1950, 60 70's. Pay
attention to what you dock to
say that the aliens told them.
00:47:26.81\00:47:34.32
It's word for word exactly the
same as in the South is you're
right. It's just it's
00:47:34.32\00:47:37.55
spiritualism redress for the
tech. A vet, the end then. >>
Time life actually does. A
00:47:37.55\00:47:41.79
7 book series called The
Unexplained. Yeah. And that was
another door. We had a a
00:47:41.79\00:47:46.83
person that have that Cook said
in their house and they all
kinds of spirit, a list
00:47:46.83\00:47:53.23
things happening in the home.
The daughter was seeing. People
in their house and I
00:47:53.23\00:47:56.37
said to them. Just something in
door open a new house somewhere
00:47:56.37\00:48:03.24
at door when they when they come
into those books that all the
unexplained, the afterlife,
00:48:03.24\00:48:06.21
the phenomenal and once again.
Repackaging it. It's an ally
sure. It's all the same.
00:48:06.21\00:48:15.19
>> I mean, every one of them
takes us out of the same
textbook. It's all out of the
00:48:15.19\00:48:17.96
one book and one philosopher and
he got it from the dragon. He
said from the great servant
00:48:17.96\00:48:24.17
and what it published, his
initial lie, you shall not
surely die. You will not
00:48:24.17\00:48:28.70
really die. But same same Same
story. Moon of Endor. Yeah, look
at it. Looks just like
00:48:28.70\00:48:33.58
Samuel, I can't help but notice
that in retrospect just like why
would you bring into
00:48:33.58\00:48:37.48
Star Wars on the moon of oh, I
see what you're doing. Yeah.
Same story when eyes are
00:48:37.48\00:48:45.29
trained to see it. to most.
Hollywood blockbusters are
written by out of the
00:48:45.29\00:48:52.26
hermetic, a almost all the
Wizard of So the storyline, yes,
come out of there. The
00:48:52.26\00:48:57.67
Wizard of Oz, one of the 3
people with Dorothy going go
find a wizard. Well, we've got
00:48:57.67\00:49:01.47
the strong man that's the
vegetable man. The very
beginning. We were plants
00:49:01.47\00:49:07.18
first. Then we got the cowardly
Lyon. That's and we became
animals next. And then
00:49:07.18\00:49:13.25
we have a 10 man with no heart
were trapped in a physical body.
It's a prison. It was
00:49:13.25\00:49:18.22
written other medical Pinocchio
run out of their Medica. Same
00:49:18.22\00:49:22.69
thing. He doesn't he doesn't
really begin to get his great
awakening and lightning until he
00:49:22.69\00:49:26.29
goes into the belly of this
fire-breathing whale. That's no
whales, a fire-breathing.
00:49:26.29\00:49:30.20
Well, come on. He goes down into
the underworld into what is it
called that it's not
00:49:30.20\00:49:34.27
never-never land. That's another
story. But and also Peter Pan is
00:49:34.27\00:49:40.18
this is the child's version of
Pan it's exactly right. Just
dressed up for the It's the same
00:49:40.18\00:49:46.48
plot over and over and over
again. And what's interesting if
you come open their medical, you
00:49:46.48\00:49:50.55
go home here it is bullet points
on how to write these It's it's
fascinating. Only 2
00:49:50.55\00:49:56.16
religions in this world. All
right. Let's get back to first
fight. Yeah. Verse 8, 8, have
00:49:56.16\00:50:03.90
my bifocals, but I can't >> So
Saul disguised himself and put
on other clothes and
00:50:03.90\00:50:09.94
he went and 2 men with him. >>
And they came to the woman by
night and he said, please
00:50:09.94\00:50:16.64
conduct a seance for me and
bring up for me. The one I shall
00:50:16.64\00:50:23.28
name to you. >> Stop there for
sure. You noticed there is the
added. all know in advance.
00:50:23.28\00:50:28.12
>> If you haven't read the story
out here comes a spoiler alert,
Samuel. He wants to
00:50:28.12\00:50:33.03
talk to Samuel the dead profit.
Alright, prof of con wrath of
00:50:33.03\00:50:36.56
God. What does he expect him to
come from here? Oh, What some
he's looking for him to come
00:50:36.56\00:50:43.64
from beneath 2 not worded. The
cane and Knights who were
supposed to leave the land
00:50:43.64\00:50:46.27
believe the dead are above.
Well, no, the canaanites oh,
Dolly below and she'll in the
00:50:46.27\00:50:53.65
shadowy underworld. Yes, I saw
was gone to the other system.
But bring the Samuel he's down
00:50:53.65\00:50:58.79
You know, he's down there. And
this is a canaanite story. This
is not an Abraham next
00:50:58.79\00:51:05.69
story. This is not a biblical
story. This is God showing what
happens on the other side
00:51:05.69\00:51:09.70
of the coin. So he shows up with
that world view. And with that
00:51:09.70\00:51:13.50
expectations, he's already moved
over to the Egyptian position.
>> The King of Israel bring
00:51:13.50\00:51:18.94
him up. If this is a prophet of
God and he's out there
somewhere, where would wreath
00:51:18.94\00:51:24.21
if if that's the way it worked
anybody to be the not to bring
them up, bring them up.
00:51:24.21\00:51:32.09
>> Yeah. But the reality is just
to just to put the pen and for
00:51:32.09\00:51:34.06
those who may not understand the
full picture. >> When the
prophet died, he was buried. He
00:51:34.06\00:51:40.13
was not any one location and a
conscious existence. Now he's
been playing this. Y'all believe
00:51:40.13\00:51:45.43
the great, but he was in the
Hebrew Shield. A grade. Okay.
Yeah. But bring them up. Okay.
00:51:45.43\00:51:51.24
Keep going first night. Okay.
Verse 9. >> Then the woman said
00:51:51.24\00:51:55.34
to him, look, you know, what saw
has done how he is cut off the
mediums and the Spirit S from
00:51:55.34\00:52:00.95
the land. Why then do latest now
from my life to cause me to die?
00:52:00.95\00:52:06.79
You know any she's working
underground. She's fully aware
of what's happening.
00:52:06.79\00:52:09.52
>> Fastening somebody tapped her
on the shoulder and says, hey,
man. Something's wrong
00:52:09.52\00:52:13.66
here. Even she know something's
wrong. You know? Yeah. Can you
00:52:13.66\00:52:19.27
imagine a witch who who knows?
I'm in trouble here. This is not
right, right. But the man who
00:52:19.27\00:52:22.47
made the edict to put her out of
town has disguised himself so
she can't even see. And I was
00:52:22.47\00:52:28.44
always said that one of the
first indications we have moved
away from light as we
00:52:28.44\00:52:34.62
are, we change our identity and
that was the thing. Sits all
tied into changed new
00:52:34.62\00:52:38.69
comments yesterday put on his
clothes. Yeah. He disguised his
00:52:38.69\00:52:46.59
true identity that concealed
himself to be someone completely
00:52:46.59\00:52:50.50
different. But >> 10's to be the
same in the next as you say,
thats all swore to her by the
00:52:50.50\00:52:56.17
Lord. That's way But it's all
caps. If you've got an English
00:52:56.17\00:53:00.11
Bible. >> All catch. He's
appealing to the one true
creator. God made the heavens
00:53:00.11\00:53:03.01
ear at the scene. The fountains
of waters. So also order by the
Lord. Jehovah saying, as you
00:53:03.01\00:53:08.18
know, we always Jehovah lives.
No punishment come upon you for
this thing now is line in
00:53:08.18\00:53:13.32
the name of the >> And fall, of
course is the first king. He's
00:53:13.32\00:53:18.79
also the first king of Israel.
And so he's there the spiritual
capacity in a legal capacity
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and all these capacities as saw
and he's >> we're talking about
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this year the night you're Sen
Israel first asked for a king.
God didn't want that. No post
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report to and they were so they
were essentially rejected God.
Yes, asking for Human
00:53:35.74\00:53:40.55
Cain. yeah. And then we see this
human king rejecting God and
swearing by God's name
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that you're doing okay here,
which this is fine. Yeah. Yeah.
I got you covered in
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cotton eye in this together. So
you know, K which tells me
something, yeah, you can be so
00:53:50.79\00:53:56.46
wrong about God, if you know
stand what he says. If you go by
gut instinct, you could be
00:53:56.46\00:53:59.90
so wrong that you're taking
God's name in vain and you're
using him in context. He said.
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>> Don't go. We can deceive
ourselves into thinking we're
just fine with what we're
00:54:04.77\00:54:07.58
doing because we don't compare
it to the word. That's why it's
troubling. When I hear
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people say, well, India trying
to show them the truth of God's
word. You're trying to
00:54:10.58\00:54:15.05
show them things that offer
they're good and they say, no, I
don't need that God and I
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have an understanding, right?
That's what the Sala saying
right here. The very same
00:54:19.45\00:54:23.39
thing got and I have an
understanding with be there
00:54:23.39\00:54:28.76
credibly deceived. >> Because he
knows a moment ago, guys not
answering him. So how can you
00:54:28.76\00:54:31.53
give a message from God to this?
This medium? He's that deceived
or he's lying to get what he
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wants here. Either either way
that he this is a huge mess and
we do the same thing. We get
00:54:37.84\00:54:42.51
desperate. We let go of God. We
start doing things our way and
then we want God to bless
00:54:42.51\00:54:47.52
>> And we can even deceive
ourself enough that we start to
believe the lies. It almost
00:54:47.52\00:54:52.65
feels like fall. Saul thinks
he's doing the right thing. I
mean, he knew better. He knew
00:54:52.65\00:55:00.33
he doing the right thing here.
But he's so deceived even
himself in this process.
00:55:00.33\00:55:06.60
>> Now he has also we have about
2.38. So that he's in there for
00:55:06.60\00:55:10.17
those on the other side because
going to keep them packing this.
And by the way, as you as you
00:55:10.17\00:55:13.41
joining us, we're talking about
some of the roots of spiritual
zones. And this story, as Sean
00:55:13.41\00:55:19.81
ingenious pointed out, he's one
of those where the Lord is using
this example to show
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that Paul that's all had
departed from the Hebrew
understanding of shield to the
00:55:25.85\00:55:30.16
Egyptian understanding of it.
And he's now communicating with
all the language and
00:55:30.16\00:55:35.03
imagery that is disconnected him
from the Lord and his believing
00:55:35.03\00:55:40.84
this and getting endorsement to
the which event some might say
we're fine. You'll be just okay.
00:55:40.84\00:55:43.81
You do ask you to do and no harm
will come to you in the name of
00:55:43.81\00:55:49.21
the Lord. >> Not exactly. He's
bringing God into the question
now, the question that will
00:55:49.21\00:55:53.62
probably want to address in the
next segment is is pretty
simple. Did this happen anywhere
00:55:53.62\00:55:59.62
else in the faith of Abraham,
Isaac and did this happen in
Israel did happen in
00:55:59.62\00:56:06.19
Christianity? Were some of our
ideas come from? Have we baptize
paganism in the name of the Lord
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sometimes. And that's kind of I
think we can tease with that
because did this happening
00:56:11.20\00:56:15.54
again, OK, those are questions
that people are going to be
asking. Wish they sent a text
00:56:15.54\00:56:18.81
me. >> 2, 6, 1, 8, 2, 2,
8, 3, 9, 7, 5, Send your tax
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videos, music books. >> And
30 seconds. Just tell us whereas
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some of the places that
spirituals and is hiding itself
today to do I dare say what I'm
00:56:48.57\00:56:55.74
about to say. All right.
Sometimes in the heart of
Christianity and we'll talk
00:56:55.74\00:56:59.38
about coming up. Pretty quick
here as to how did it sneak in?
>> Why do we think it's real
00:56:59.38\00:57:03.85
and why are we accepting it? >>
It's amazing how this fallen
angel has found his way
00:57:03.85\00:57:10.99
into the very place where he
claimed. The very declaration of
spirituals. And I will be
00:57:10.99\00:57:18.40
like the most and today and you
shall not. Surely die. Said time
00:57:18.40\00:57:23.10
you shall not. Shirley died. The
biggest lie that is followed
today. While so stay tuned with
00:57:23.10\00:57:29.64
us. We're going to be back into
second. and please send those
questions and common sense
00:57:29.64\00:57:33.11
because I know Sean and Jhene
you're here and they want to be
able to respond in any way
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that we'll be suitable to
respond questions, but don't go
away on the other side.
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Yeah, I got grace
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