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Good Enough for God?

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00:14 [♪♪] [♪♪]
01:10 >> WELCOME TO 3ABN TOAY LIVE. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AS
01:14 YOU DO EACH AND EVERY DAY. I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS.
01:17 IT'S ALMOST GONE AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THANKSGIVING.
01:21 >> WHERE HAS THE TIME GONE? >> I DON'T KNOW.
01:23 >> DO YOU THINK THE OLDER WE GET THE FASTER TIME GOES?
01:27 >> I KNOW IT DOES. WHEN YOU'RE YOUNG SEEMS LIKE
01:32 YOU HAVE YOUR WHOLE LIFE IN FRONT OF YOU, THE WHOLE WORLD.
01:37 THEN, WAIT A MINUTE. MY BOTHER TOLD ME ONCE, I USED
01:41 TO BUY SHINGLES TO BUILD A HOUSE AND, HE SAID YOU WANT 10
01:46 YEAR, 20 YEAR, 30 YEAR. HE SAID 30.
01:52 >> I REALLY DON'T NEED ANY MORE THAN TEN YEARS.
01:55 HEY, IT'S A GREAT TIME TO BE ALIVE.
01:58 >> IT IS. >> WE ARE THANKFUL.
01:59 CAN YOU IMAGINE, OF ALL THE PEOPLE ON PLANET EARTH THAT
02:05 CHRISTIANS KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING.
02:07 ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS COMMIT OUR LIVES AND ASK FORGIVENESS
02:11 OF OUR SINS. HE IS FAITHFUL AND JUST TO
02:16 FORGIVE OUR SINCE AND ALL UNRIGHTEOUSNESS.
02:19 FROM THERE ON, WE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE.
02:22 CAN YOU IMAGINE LIVING IN THIS WORLD AND YOU CAME ON THE
02:28 TELEVISION, TEACHING THESE THINGS AND ALL OF THESE
02:31 POLITICIANS GOING BACK AND FORTH.
02:33 IT WOULD BE SO DISCOURAGING. NOW I CAN HAVE PEACE ABOUT IT.
02:37 HEY, WHATEVER GOES ON, WE READ THE BACK OF THE BOOK, WE SEE
02:41 ALL THE TOWBL, THE TRIALS. WE'RE GONNA HAVE A GREAT
02:47 PROGRAM TONIGHT. >> WE ARE.
02:49 I'M SO EXCITED. >> WHY IS THAT?
02:51 >> ONE OF MY ALL-TIME FAVORITE SPEAKERS IS HERE.
02:55 >> OH, OKAY. WHY DON'T YOU INTRODUCE HIM?
02:59 >> JOHN BRADSHAW, PRESIDENT OF IT IS WRITTEN.
03:03 >> THANKS FOR HAVING ME. >> GOOD TO HAVE YOU.
03:06 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH TO BE AT 3ABN.
03:12 WONDERFUL SEE YOU. BOTH OF YOU.
03:14 >> WE LOVE IT WHEN YOU'RE HERE.
03:16 WE'LL HAVE GREAT DISCUSSIONS. HOW DO I KNOW?
03:19 BECAUSE WE'VE HAD HIM BEFORE. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
03:21 >> WHY DON'T YOU TELL THE VIEWERS.
03:23 WE'LL ASK YOU BEFORE WE GET INTO IT.
03:26 WHAT IS IT THAT WE WANT OUR VIEWERS TO CENTER IN TONIGHT
03:29 AND WHAT IS IT ON YOUR HEART THAT YOU WANT TO GET ACROSS TO
03:32 THE VAST NUMBER OF PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD?
03:34 >> REGARDLESS OF THE TITLE, WE QUOTE "IS IT GOOD ENOUGHFO
03:40 GOD." ON ONE SIDE, YOU HAVE PEOPLE
03:44 JUST -- IT'S GOOD ENOUGH. ON THE OTHER SIDE, YOU HAVE
03:47 PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO SENSE OF SALVATION.
03:51 THEY FEEL LIKE THEY COULD NEVER BE GOOD ENOUGH FOR GOD.
03:54 IN FACT, THERE IS TRUTH TO THAT.
03:58 THEY DON'T SEEK PEACEFULLY. THEY DON'T HAVE A SPIRIT THAT
04:03 YOU WERE SPEAKING OF A MOMENT AGO BECAUSE THEY CAN NEVER BE
04:07 GOOD ENOUGH FOR GOD. THEY NEVER DO ENOUGH FOR GOD.
04:12 SO WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE ASSURANCE OF SALVATION.
04:17 >> THE SECOND HOUR, IF YOU HAVE TIME, WE'LL TAKE
04:21 QUESTIONS AND WE'LL PUT CHARLES ON THE HOTSHEET, WE
04:27 CALL IT. THEY WILL BRING THE CALLS OVER
04:31 AND IN THE SECOND HALF WE'LL GO FIRST COME, FIRST SERVED.
04:35 BEFORE WE GO TO THE MUSIC. WE HAVE A FREE OFFER.
04:38 >> WE DO. WHEN HE HAVE "WHEN THE LION
04:48 ROARS: OVERCOME TEMPTATION." OR E-MAIL US AT LIVE @3ABN.TV.
05:00 I LOVE FREE OFFERS. IS IT FREE?
05:08 >> IT IS, IT'S A FREE OFFER. >> NOT LIKE WHEN THEY -- YOU
05:15 SAID YOU CAN GET IT FREE. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
05:18 TELL US WHAT THIS IS ABOUT? >> IT'S ONE OF THE MOST
05:22 IMPORTANT, MANY PEOPLE COULD EVER READ.
05:23 WE LIVE IN THIS WORLD FILLED WITH SIN.
05:26 SIN GRABS A HOLD OF US. BUT JESUS DIDN'T COME TO SAVE
05:29 US IN OUR SIN. HE CAME TO FREE US FROM OUR
05:34 SIN. TEMPTATION IS AN ANIMAL.
05:36 IT'S A BEAST. IT'S LIKE A LION, AS A ROARING
05:42 LION GOES ABOUT SEEKING. HOW DO WE GET OUT FROM
05:47 TEMPTATION SO HOW CAN WE LIVE A VICTORIOUS LIFE WITHOUT
05:53 FALLING DOWN BUT STANDS UP IN THE STRENGTH OF JESUS.
05:55 THAT'S WHAT THAT LITTLE BOOK IS ABOUT.
05:57 >> ALL RIGHT. YOU CAN GET THIS BOOK FOR
06:00 FREE. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS CALL US
06:03 AT 618-627-4651 OR E-MAIL US AT --
06:10 >> GOOD JOB. SPEAKING OF GOOD JOBS.
06:13 SOMEONE WHO ALWAYS DOES A GOOD JOB IS PASTOR JOHN LOAM KANG.
06:32 LOAM LOAM. [♪♪]
06:47 AND IT FLOWS FROM DEEP WITHIN♪ ♪ THERE IS A FOUNTAIN♪
07:03 ♪ THAT FREES THE SOUL FROM WIN.
07:18 COME TO THIS WATER♪ ♪ THERE IS A VAST SUPPLY♪
07:31 ♪ THERE IS A RIVER♪ ♪ THAT NEVER SHALL RUN DRY♪
07:52 ♪ THERE WAS A THIRSTY WOMAN♪ ♪ WHO WAS DRAWING FROM A WELL♪
08:12 ♪ AND HER SOUL WAS BOUND FOR HELI.
08:39 HELL. OH, BUT THEN SHE MET THE
08:45 MASTER♪ ♪ AND HE TOLD ABOUT HER SIN♪
08:55 ♪ AND HE SAID IF YOU DRINK THIS WATER♪
09:02 ♪ YOU'LL NEVER THIRST AGAIN♪ ♪ OH, THERE IS A RIVER♪
09:24 ♪ AND IT FLOWS FROM DEEP WITHIN♪
09:34 ♪ THERE IS A FOUNTAIN♪ ♪ THAT FREES THE SOUL FROM
09:51 WIN♪ ♪ COME TO THIS WATER♪
10:02 ♪ FOR THERE IS A VAST SUPPLY♪ ♪ THERE IS A RIVER♪
10:23 ♪ THAT NEVER SHALL RUN DRY. [♪♪]
10:43 >> AMEN. THANK YOU, PASTOR JOHN.
10:46 WE WERE HARMONIZING WITH HIM. WE DIDN'T GET TO BE ON.
10:49 >> I KNOW! >> WE GOT TO DO HARMONY.
10:53 >> I WAS LISTENING. THAT'S THE PART I DO.
10:56 I LEAVE THE SINGING TO THE SINGERS.
10:57 SOMEONE HAS TO LISTEN. SOMEONE HAS TO APPRECIATE.
11:02 >> IT IS AN AMAZING GIFT OF GOD.
11:05 YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THE SONG THAT YOU MAY HERE IN THE
11:09 '70s, '80s THAT CAN COME RIGHT BACK TO YOU WHEN YOU'RE
11:12 NOT EVEN TRYING TO THINK OF THOSE THINGS.
11:15 GOOD OR BAD. IT'S AMAZING.
11:19 MUSIC IS A GREAT GIFT. >> YOU PUT IT IN SONG, YOU
11:22 NEVER FORGET. >> ONCE AGAIN IF YOU ARE JUST
11:27 JOINING US, PASTOR JOHN BRADSHAW IS PRESIDENT OF IT IS
11:33 WRITTEN. BEFORE WE GET TO THIS MAIN
11:35 TOPIC. YOU HAVE A BRAND NEW FACILITY.
11:37 I HEAR YOU HAD AN OPEN HOUSE TOMORROW.
11:41 >> WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT. >> DO IT YOU HAVE PICTURES AND
11:45 VIDEOS? >> WHY DON'T WE TAKE A LOOK.
11:48 >> THE FIRST PICTURE -- >> LOOK AT THAT.
11:53 >> THIS IS ABOUT 43, 43,000 SQUARE FEET.
11:58 >> COLLEGEVILLE? >> A MILE AND A HALF FROM
12:01 SOUTHERN UNIVERSITY. >> BEAUTIFUL.
12:05 >> IF YOU TOOK OUT THE WAREHOUSE.
12:08 THERE IS A WAREHOUSE. AND IF YOU TOOK OUT -- THERE
12:14 IS A STUDIO, OBVIOUSLY. THERE IS A STUDIO IN THERE.
12:26 THERE IS ROOM TO GROW. >> THE BIGGER THE BETTER.
12:31 WE HAVE THE CHURCH AND FACILITIES.
12:34 WE DO CAMP FOR 40 SOME THOUSAND.
12:37 35,000 SQUARE FEET. WE HAVE THE SOUND CENTER.
12:40 WE HAVE ALL OF THESE THINGS. HEY, 200,000 SQUARE FEET, THE
12:46 SCHOOL. >> WHERE WOULD YOU BE WITHOUT
12:48 IT? >> YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT.
12:50 THE STUDIOS HERE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR REMOTE TRUCK FOR THE
12:54 TELEVISION NETWORK. THE LORD BLESSES.
12:58 YOU'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING. YOU'RE STILL IN THE SAME
13:00 HOUSE. BUT IT'S OPENING DOORS FOR YOU
13:02 TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND ALL THESE YEARS.
13:06 STILL GROWING. THAT'S A GREAT SIGN.
13:09 >> A COUPLE MORE PICTURES HERE.
13:10 LET ME SEE WHAT WE HAVE. THERE IS THE ENTRY.
13:19 NEXT WE SEE -- THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ROOM.
13:21 THAT'S THE WORSHIP ROOM. THAT IS WHERE WE WORSHIP EVERY
13:25 DAY. THAT IS A BACKUP STUDIO IF WE
13:27 NEED TO. >> HOW MANY EMPLOYEES DO YOU
13:29 HAVE THERE? >> ON SITE, ABOUT 44 ON SITE.
13:33 THEN A COUPLE OFF SITE. WE HAVE THE WAREHOUSE THERE.
13:39 THAT LITTLE THING, THE RESOURCES THAT GO OUT AROUND
13:44 THE WORLD. THE RESOURCES THAT ARE A
13:46 LITTLE BIT OF THE INTERIOR OF THE BUILDING.
13:49 AND I THINK THE LAST PICTURE IS -- THAT'S JUST A WALL
13:56 BASICALLY. HERE IN THE STUDIO, WE ARE
14:00 USING THE STUDIOS NOW. ONCE YOU'RE IN YOU HAVE TO
14:06 RAMP UP. IT'S AN EXCITING TIME.
14:08 YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT. >> IT IS.
14:10 IT'S GREAT. >> HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN IN
14:13 YOUR NEW FACILITY? >> YOU KNOW WHAT, I SHOULD
14:17 KNOW THAT. BUT IT'S ABOUT TWO MONTHS.
14:20 >> OKAY. >> RIGHT ABOUT TWO MONTHS.
14:23 MAYBE A LITTLE LESS THAN TWO MONTHS.
14:24 MAYBE A LITTLE MORE. >> SO YOU'RE GETTING THE FEEL
14:28 FOR THE NEW ENVIRONMENT, RIGHT?
14:30 >> DO YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME INTERESTING DIFFERENCES.
14:33 WHEN WE WERE ALL TOGETHER LIKE SARDINES IN A CAN, THERE WERE
14:39 DOWNSIDES OF THAT. AT THE SAME TIME WE HAD A
14:41 BUNCH OF 20-SOMETHINGS SITTING LITERALLY ELBOW TO ELBOW
14:45 LOOKING AT THEIR SCREENS, DOING THEIR WORK.
14:49 THERE IS SOMETHING DYNAMIC ABOUT THAT.
14:51 THERE IS SOMETHING REALLY GOOD ABOUT THAT.
14:55 IN A REAL BUILDING, PUT THEM IN A CUBICAL.
15:04 NOW THERE ARE FOUR WALLS AROUND THEM.
15:07 THAT'S GOOD, BUT IT'S ALSO NOT SO GOOD.
15:11 YOU MOVE SOME OF THAT DYNAMISM AND THE INTERACTION AND THE
15:14 CREATIVITY. I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S A
15:16 PROBLEM. IT'S AN ADJUSTMENT.
15:18 BEFORE IF YOU WANTED TO SEE SOMEONE YOU WALK ADD FEW FEET.
15:21 NOW YOU HAVE TO PUT ON YOUR EXERCISE SHOES AND GO HIKING.
15:26 CAME A COMPASS AND CHANGE TIME ZONES ALONG THE WAY.
15:34 >> TELL US A LITTLE ABOUT WHEN IT IS WRITTEN WAS FOUNDED, WHO
15:38 STARTED IT AND A LITTLE HISTORY.
15:40 >> BACK IN 1966, A MAN WITH A DREAM, GEORGIA VANDEMAN
15:45 BELIEVED HE TO USE TELEVISION TO REACH THE WORLD OF JESUS.
15:52 >> 56? >> HE IS 63 YEARS OLD NOW.
15:58 WE'VE STUCK WITH THAT. IT IS WRITTEN WAS CONCEIVED AS
16:04 A MEDIA EVANGELISM. THAT IS WHERE WE'RE STAYING.
16:08 NOT ONLY IN ENGLISH, BUT IN ESPANOL.
16:13 WE HAVE PROGRAMS SEEN AROUND THE WORLD.
16:16 WE KEEP HEARING THAT FROM PEOPLE.
16:19 TOUCHED MY LIFE THROUGH IT IS WRITTEN.
16:22 I FOUND JESUS WATCHING IT IS WRITTEN.
16:25 WE HEAR THOSE STORIES. IT'S WHY WE DO WA WE DO.
16:28 >> MAYBE ONE YOU HAVEN'T HEARD BEFORE ABOUT GEORGE VANDEMAN.
16:34 WHEN WE STARTED 3ABN BACK IN NOVEMBER OF '84, BUT '85 WE
16:43 WERE OUT THERE LETTING PEOPLE KNOW.
16:46 GEORGE VANDEMAN, HE HAD THIS GREAT PROGRAMMING, IT IS
16:52 WRITTEN, A MEDIA CENTER THERE IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA.
16:56 YOU GO OUT THERE, YOU'RE JUST IN AWE OF ALL OF THIS.
17:00 SOMEBODY TOLD HIM ABOUT TWO CARPENTERS, TWO YOUNG MEN AND
17:06 TWO YOUNG CARPENTERS IN THEIR 30s BUILDING A TELEVISION
17:10 STATION TO REACH THE WORLD. THAT WAS THEIR GOAL.
17:14 HE HAD BEEN IN OVER 30 YEARS, ABOUT 30 YEARS MINISTRY.
17:21 ALMOST 30 YEARS. ALMOST AS LONG AS 3ABN HAS
17:26 BEEN AROUND. I WAS THINKING IF I HEARD
17:29 ABOUT TWO CARPENTERS, SOMEBODY BEEN IN 30 YEARS, I DON'T KNOW
17:34 THAT I WOULD HAVE SAID, AT THAT POINTS I DON'T KNOW HOW I
17:39 WOULD HAVE RESPONDED. WE WERE GOING TO HIM AND WE
17:45 MET HIM. I SAID WE'RE GOING TO GO AND
17:48 HE SAID SINCE YOU'RE BRAND NEW AND PEOPLE DON'T KNOW YOU, WE
17:51 NEED SOMEBODY IN THE MEDIA THAT WILL COME AND TALK TO YOU
17:56 AND THAT YOU CAN GET SUPPORT AND GET PEOPLE TO SUPPORT THIS
18:01 MINISTRY. I SAID WHO WOULD THAT BE?
18:03 HE SAID WHAT IF I CALL GEORGE VANDEMAN?
18:07 WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING, NO BUILDING.
18:10 WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING, JUST THE DREAM.
18:15 YOU DON'T HAVE TO FIGURE OUT, WAIT A MINUTE, WOULD THAT BE
18:18 PRUDENT FOR HIM? HE SAID I'LL TALK TO HIM.
18:24 HE CALLED US BACK A FEW DAYS LATER AND HE SAID ELDER
18:27 VANDEMAN WILL BE HERE. WE'LL ADVERTISE THAT ELDER
18:30 ADVANCED MAN WILL ATTEND OUR CHURCH.
18:33 WE SHOULD HAVE A FULL CHURCH. I WANT YOU TO TALK TO HIM.
18:36 TELL HIM WHAT YOUR DREAM WHAT YOUR VISION IT.
18:40 HE CAME AND THAT NIGHT WE RAISED -- WE HAD NOTHING.
18:43 WE RAISED, I BELIEVE, AROUND $40,000.
18:47 HE DID IT. THEY DIDN'T REALLY KNOW US.
18:50 I WAS ALWAYS GRATEFUL TO GEORGE VANDEMAN.
18:55 I MET HIM BEFORE THAT BUT WOULD HAVE NEVER ASKED HIM TO
18:59 COME. THAT WAS 1982 BEFORE 3ABN WAS
19:03 ON IT IS WRITTEN, THE PROGRAM. >> OH, YEAH.
19:07 >> THAT WAS BEFORE. SO IT WAS INTERESTING TO WATCH
19:09 ALL OF THAT. ELDER VANDEMAN CAME FOR 3ABN.
19:14 >> THAT IS GREAT. >> IT WAS BEFORE WE EVEN HAD
19:17 ONE BUILDING UP. WE WERE JUST STARTING TO
19:21 BUILD. HAD TWO ACRES OF PROPERTY.
19:23 WHEN I SHARED WITH HIM ALL OF THESE THINGS, AND I CALLED
19:27 HIM, DR. THOMPSON SAID WE SHOULD.
19:30 WE GOT TO BE FRIENDS. EVEN BACK BEFORE THAT, 1980
19:37 WORLD FAIR IN TENNESSEE. MELODY AND I THINK KAY AT THE
19:41 TIME. TIBIAL WAS 1980 WHEN IT WAS IN
19:45 CHATTANOOGA. SOMEONE WILL CORRECT ME, I'M
19:49 SURE. KNOXVILLE.
19:51 I THINK IT WAS 1980. ELDER VANDEMAN HAD MET US AND
19:56 HE SAID WILL YOU COME EVERY DAY FOR A FEW DAYS AT THE
20:00 FAIR. I HAD A BOOTH.
20:02 HE SAID I WANT YOU AND YOUR FAMILY TO COME.
20:06 I I HADN'T SEEN HIM IN A FEW YEARS.
20:10 YET THE IDEA OF HIM COMING. I THOUGHT HE WOULD NEVER DO
20:13 THAT AND HE DID. IT IS WRITTEN.
20:17 >> WE HAVE BEEN CONNECTED SINCE WAY BACK THEN.
20:20 >> YOU DIDN'T EVEN KNOW. >> WE NEEDED A BUILDING
20:24 BECAUSE THE BUILDING WHERE WE WERE RENTING IN SOUTHERN
20:28 CALIFORNIA, YOU MENTIONED IT, WAS PUT ON THE MARKET FOR
20:31 SALE. WE HAD TO GO SOMEWHERE.
20:33 WE GOT ON OUR KNEES. WE LOOKED UP AND PSALM THE
20:38 PILLAR OF CLOUD MOVING EAST AND HOVERING OVER THIS AREA.
20:44 WE DENT WANT TO BUILD MANSIONS AND PALACES AND CASTLES BUT WE
20:50 HAVE TO HAVE A HOME. WE HAVE BEEN BLESSED WITH A
20:54 NEW MINISTRY HOME. IT'S NOT ABOUT THE BUILDING,
20:56 IT'S ABOUT WHAT GOES ON INSIDE.
20:59 I AM PRAYERFUL AND I HOPE YOU WILL BE PRAYERFUL ABOUT WHAT
21:03 GOES ON INSIDE OF THE BUILDING FOR THE GLORY OF GOD.
21:06 >> ABSOLUTELY. TOMORROW, FRIDAY, SINCE THERE
21:11 ARE REPEATS, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY WILL BE WATCHING
21:16 NEXT WEEK IT WILL BE TOO LATE. BUT FROM NOON UNTIL 3:00.
21:25 >> AND IT WOULD BE GOOD TO BRING YOUR BREK BOOK, THAT
21:29 WOULDN'T UPSET YOU. >> I WOULDN'T BE UPSET ONE
21:32 LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. >> READY TO GET INTO THE
21:35 CONVERSATION? >> YES.
21:37 I'M READY TO HEAR IT. >> THIS WILL BE SOMETHING THAT
21:42 YOU REMEMBER. WE'LL START HERE.
21:45 I HOPE YOU'LL BE PATIENT AS WE BUILD.
21:48 LET'S GO TO THAT. LET'S START WITH 1988.
21:54 THE OLYMPIC GAMES WERE IN SEOUL, SOUTH KOREA.
22:00 MEN'S 100 METERS WAS WON BY A JAMAICAN RUNNING FOR CANADA.
22:05 HE MOVED TO CANADA AT THE AGE OF 14, BEN JOHNSON.
22:12 IT WAS HIM AND KARL LEWIS. KARL LEWIS WON MORE GOLD
22:19 MEDALS, ACCUMULATED MORE. THERE IS A PICTURE OF KARL
22:26 LOOKING TO THE SIDE WITH DISBELIEF ON HIS FACE THAT HE
22:31 IS GOING TO GET BEATEN BY BEN JOHNSON.
22:35 THEY PLAYED "O CANADA." AND THE MAPLE LEAF IS BLOWING
22:42 IN THE BREEZE AND IT ALL GOES WELL UNTIL THEY REALIZED HE
22:50 GOT BY WITH A LITTLE HELP FROM HIS FRIENDS.
22:53 HE WAS USING SOMETHING CALLED STEROIDS.
22:56 THE GAMES THAT I REMEMBERED IN 1976, AS A KID I KEPT A SCRAP
23:02 BOOK. THERE IS A SWIMMER THAT, HER
23:09 NAME IS SHIRLEY, SHE SWAM IN MEXICO CITY.
23:16 AND SHE WAS THE BIG FAVORITE TO WIN EVERYTHING IN MONTREAL,
23:22 CANADA. EXCEPT SHE CAME UP AGAINST THE
23:26 EAST GERMAN WOMEN'S SWIM TEAM. THREE OF FOUR, THEY WERE
23:32 NOTHING. YOU GET TO MONTREAL AND THEY
23:35 HELD EVERY WORLD RECORD AT OLYMPIC DISTANCES EXCEPT ONE.
23:40 WHAT HAD HAPPENED? SHIRLEY AND THE AMERICANS
23:45 SWAM. THEY WERE WON PRECIOUS LITTLE
23:47 GOLD. WHEN YOU HEAR THIS STORY, YOU
23:50 WILL WONDER HOW THAT WAS EVEN POSSIBLE.
23:53 BUT THEY GOT A LOT OF SILVER. CORNELIA WAS THE EAST GERMAN
24:00 SWIMMER. SHE HAD BEEN A TALL, SKINNY
24:02 GIRL WITH BLONDES HAIR AND BLUE EYES.
24:05 BY THE TIME MONTREAL SHE WAS TALL, SKINNY, BLUE EYED AND
24:09 NOT SKINNY. SHE THOUGHT IT WAS HARD
24:13 TRAINING AND VITAMINS. THE REASON THE EAST GERMANS
24:17 WERE DOING SO WELL IS BECAUSE OF STEROID 14.25 IT WAS
24:23 INSTITUTED BY THE EAST GERMAN GOVERNMENT.
24:25 THEY WERE GOING TO DEMONSTRATE THE SUPERIORITY OF EASTERN
24:29 EUROPEAN COMMUNISM. THEY WERE PUMP ATHLETES FULL
24:32 OF PERFORMANCE ENHANCING DRUGS.
24:37 >> UNBEKNOWNST. >> UNBEKNOWNST TO THE
24:39 ATHLETES. WHEN CORNELIA FOUND OUT THESE
24:42 WERE DRUGS SHE WAS TAKING. SHE SAID I WORKED, THEY SAID
24:46 YOU WILL NEVER SWIM FOR YOUR COUNTRY AGAIN.
24:49 SHE DIDN'T. AND SHE DIDN'T.
24:53 GOOD FOR HER. SHE WAS YESTERDAY'S NEWS EVEN
24:56 THOUGH SHE WON SO MANY GOLD MEDALS.
25:02 A FELLOW I MET, I'LL CALL HIM A FRIEND FOR PURPOSES OF THIS
25:06 STORY. SWAM FOR PENN STATE
25:08 UNIVERSITY. HE WAS A BIG-TIME SWIMMER.
25:10 HE DIDN'T SWIM FOR THE UNITED STATES BUT HIGH-LEVEL
25:13 COLLEGIATE. A FRIENDS OF HIS, MANY FRIENDS
25:16 OF HIS WERE ON THE SWIM TEAM AND ONE OF THEM TOLD THIS
25:20 STORY. THE AMERICAN WOMEN WERE IN THE
25:22 LOCKER ROOM IN MONTREAL WHEN THEY HEARD A DEEP VOICE COMING
25:28 FROM THE LOCKER ROOM. KWHATION IS THE WORLD CAN THAT
25:32 BE?" YOU GO AND CHECK.
25:34 NO, YOU, YOU. I'LL LOOK.
25:36 IT WAS THE EAST GERMAN WOMEN. ONE OF THE AMERICAN WOMEN, MY,
25:44 WHAT A DEP VOICE YOU HAVE. THEY SAID WE DIDN'T COME HERE
25:47 TO SING. THEY WERE THERE TO WIN.
25:52 AND THEY WERE WINNING, WEIGHT LIFTING, A GREAT WEIGHTLIFTER,
26:02 HE DIDN'T WIN WITH THE GOLD MEDAL BUT HE HAD ONE WORLD
26:06 RECORDS. HE IS KNOWN TO HAVE TAKEN MORE
26:08 PERFORMANCE ENHANCING DRUGS IN ONE YEAR THAN ANY HUMAN.
26:13 HE WAS PUT IN A WHEEMP AND DIED PREMATURELY.
26:19 A FARMER COULD HAVE FED UP A WHOLE STABLE OF CATTLE WITH
26:21 THE DRUGS THIS MAN TOOK. HERE IS THE QUESTION.
26:25 WHY DO THEY DO IT? WHY DO THEY DO IT IT?
26:33 LANCE ARMSTRONG, WON THE TOUR de FRANCE, SEVEN TIMES.
26:38 CAME BACK FROM WITH CANCER STRAIGHT TO HIS LUNGS AND HIS
26:45 BRAIN. I WANTED TO BELIEVE HE WAS A
26:47 DETERMINED COMPETITOR WHO BEAT THE ODDS.
26:49 WHY DID HE DO IT? HE WAS RIDING UP THE PIR KNEES
26:55 OR SOMETHING OR OTHER AT THE TOUR de FRANCE.
26:59 A CYCLIST WENT PAST HIM LIKE HE WAS GOING BACKWARDS.
27:03 HE GOT OFF HIS BIKE AND SAID WHAT IN THE WORLD WAS THAT?
27:08 THEY SAID, THEY EXPLAINED THAT GUY WAS USING PERFORMANCE
27:12 ENHANCING DRUGS. LANCE ARMSTRONG IF YOU CAN'T
27:15 BEAT 'EM -- >> JOIN.
27:18 >> AND HE DID. HE DIDN'T BECOME THE BEST
27:21 CYCLIST, HE BECAME THE BEST CHEAT IN THE WORLD.
27:24 HE FEELS POORLY ABOUT WHAT HE DID.
27:25 HE DID IT FOR THIS REASON. HE WAS NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
27:32 HIS BEST WAS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. IT'S ONLY SPORT.
27:35 DOESN'T REALLY MATTER AT ALL. FLIP THAT OVER TO SPIRITUAL
27:40 THINGS. HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE RUN THE
27:47 CHRISTIAN RACE AND CALLING IT A RACE, HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE
27:51 RUN THIS CHRISTIAN RACE AND REALIZED THEIR BEST IS NOT
27:55 GOOD ENOUGH. THE ANSWER SHOULD BE EVERYONE
28:00 DOES NOT. THE HONEST REALIZE THEIR BEST
28:04 IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. THE SELF-DELUDED ARE LYING AND
28:10 THEY SAY THEY ARE FINE AND THEY CAN DO IT.
28:14 FIRST CORINTHIANS, VERSE 24. THEY MUST RUN IN A RACE ALL
28:20 ALONE BUT ONE RECEIVES THE PRIZE.
28:23 SO RUN THAT YOU MAY OBTAIN. REALLY TALK ABOUT BEING
28:29 TEMPORARY IN ALL THINGS AND THEY ARE ONLY TRYING TO WIN A
28:33 CROWN. IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN, HE
28:36 SAID, RUN TO WIN. RUN TO WIN.
28:41 BUT SO MANY CHRISTIANS LINE UP ON THE STARTING LINE.
28:46 THE GUN FIRES. THEY GET OUT OF THE BLOCK.
28:49 NEXT MINUTE, THEY ARE DOWN. THEY FAIL.
28:52 THEY FALL. THEY STUMBLE.
28:54 HERE IS WHAT MOST PEOPLE DO. MOST PEOPLE SAY, "OKAY I'LL
29:00 GET UP AND I'LL TRY AGAIN." I'LL JUST TRY HARDER.
29:07 OR, I'LL FAST. I'LL PRAY MORE.
29:13 I'LL GO TO PRAYER MEETING. I'LL READ MORE OF MY BIBLE.
29:17 THESE ARE ALL GOOD THINGS. THESE ARE ALL GOOD THINGS.
29:19 WE MUSTN'T MAKE THE MISTAKE OF THINKING ANY OF THOSE THINGS,
29:27 WILL TURN SPIRITUAL FAILURE INTO A SPIRITUAL SUCCESS.
29:32 THIS IS NUANCED DISCUSSION. I'M GOING TO ASSUME THAT
29:39 ANYONE LISTENING WILL LISTEN CAREFULLY.
29:42 NOT LOOKING FOR THE FAULTS BUT LOOKING FOR THE LIGHT.
29:46 >> OKAY. >> BECAUSE JESUS -- FROM
29:53 OURSELF AND THAT'S TRUE. AND YET ALL OF US ARE IN A
29:59 WORLD FULL OF SIN WITH A HEART THAT IN VARIOUS STAGES OF
30:03 RECOVERY FROM THE POWER OF SIN.
30:05 WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THAT? HOW DO WE GET THE SHIP TO
30:10 FLOAT AND NOT SINK AND FLOAT AND SINK AND FLOAT AND SINK
30:14 AND FLOAT? TWO REAL EXPERIENCES THAT
30:22 INDICATE WHERE PEOPLE STRUGGLE OVER ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER.
30:28 YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN AND ONE CAME TO ME AND HE SAID I'D
30:32 LIKE TO GIVE YOU A COPY OF MY BOOK, PASTOR BRADSHAW.
30:37 I SAID THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
30:39 WHILE WE WERE CHATTING, I OPENED THE BOOK UP AND STARTED
30:42 LOOKING THROUGH THE CHAPTER TITLES.
30:45 I DON'T MUCH KNOW WHY. JUST TO GET AN IDEA.
30:49 ONE OF THEM CALLED MY EYE. I DON'T KNOW WHY.
30:51 I SAID WHAT IS THIS CHAPTER ABOUT?
30:53 AND HE SAID THIS IS THE CHAPTER IN WHICH WE TAKE ON --
31:01 WHAT DID HE TEACH? HE SAID HE THOUGHT THAT HE HAD
31:08 TO BE PERFECT. I ASKED WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE
31:12 A LOGICAL QUESTION. WHAT DID HE MEAN?
31:16 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE NOTICED THIS, BUT I HAVE.
31:19 YOU CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH SOMEBODY.
31:22 AND IT SEEMS LIKE YOU ARE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDES EVER THE
31:26 FENCE. YOU MAY ACTUALLY BE IN THE
31:28 SAME POSITION. BUT YOU ASCRIBE DIFFERENT
31:32 MEANINGS TO DIFFERENT THINGS. WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT
31:35 TENDENCIES AND PROPENSITIES AND PERFECT AND SEAMLESS.
31:40 YOU REALLY ASK THE QUESTION, JUST WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT?
31:43 WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? I SAID WHAT DID HE MEAN BY YOU
31:47 HAD TO BE PERFECT? THE MAN RESPONDED AND SAID, HE
31:51 SAID THAT YOU HAVE TO BE SINLESS.
31:56 I SAID OH. WHAT DID HE MEAN BY THAT?
32:01 HE SAID, WELL HE MEANT THAT YOU HAVE TO STOP SINNING.
32:06 AND I SAID, WELL I THOUGHT THAT WAS KIND OF THE IDEA.
32:11 I THOUGHT TAT WAS WHAT WE'RE IN THIS FOR.
32:15 AND HE SAID, . WHEN I BECAME A CHRISTIAN, I
32:23 GAVE UP THIS, THIS, THIS AND THIS.
32:26 BECAUSE JESUS GOT IN MY LIFE.-WHICH ONE OF THOSE FIVE THINGS WERE THE WRONG.
32:34 HE LOOKED. WHICH SHOULD I NOT HAVE GIVEN
32:37 UP? HE ANSWERED BY SAYING ALL OUR
32:43 RIGHTEOUSNESSES. I SAID NICE, BUT YOU JUST
32:48 PIVOTED. THAT WASN'T THE ANSWER TO THE
32:50 QUESTION. SO LET'S COME BACK.
32:53 WHICH ONE OF THESE THINGS SHOULD I NOT HAVE GIVEN UP?
32:59 HE STARTED TO GET A LITTLE HOSTILE.
33:01 THE LOVE WAS GONE. I SAID, IT'S BEEN NICE TALKING
33:06 TO YOU. GOOD WASTING EACH OTHER'S
33:09 TIME. HE SUCCUMBED DOWN A LITTLE
33:11 BIT. I SAID LET ME ASK YOU ANOTHER
33:15 QUESTION. A THIEF COMES TO FAITH IN
33:20 CHRIST CHOOSE TO STOP STEALING.
33:26 NO, HE SHOULD NOT. REALLY.
33:28 I SAID, OH, YOU MEAN THAT HE WILL WANT TO TRY BUT IN AND OF
33:36 HIMSELF HE DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY.
33:38 NO, HE DIDN'T MEAN THAT AT ALL.
33:40 MAN CANNOT STOP AND WILL NOT STOP.
33:45 I SAID, WELL, WHY IS THAT? HE WON'T BE ABLE TO.
33:55 >> THERE IS VICTORY. >> THE DEVIL MAKING SIN A
33:59 GREATER THAN JESUS' POWER TO BE A STAIN.
34:05 HAVE YOU QUIT SIN? WE'LL GET TO THAT.
34:12 I DON'T DIVULGE EVERYTHING. MAYBE I DON'T.
34:16 HE SAID THE MAN WILL WANT TO. BUT HE WON'T BE ABLE TO.
34:21 I SAID, WELL, YOU HAVE DROPPED THAT INTO THE MIDDLE OF
34:27 ROMAN'S CHAPTER 7. THE THINGS I DON'T WANT TO DO
34:30 I FIND MYSELF DOING. OH, WRETCHED MAN THAT I AM,
34:34 WHO WILL DELIVERY ME. PAUL GAVE AN ANSWER BUT HE WAS
34:38 GETTING NO ANSWER. HE IS STUCK IN SIN.
34:41 NO WAY OUT. GOD CAN'T CHANGE YOUR HEART.
34:45 JESUS CAN'T KEEP YOU FROM SINNING.
34:51 ROMANS 7 WOULD BE THE MOST DISCOURAGING, DEPRESSING
34:54 CHAPTER IN THE ENTIRE BIBLE, IF IT WASN'T FOR THE FACT THAT
34:58 PAUL CAME BACK AND ANSWERED HIS QUESTION.
35:02 WHO SHALL DELIVER ME? HE SAID I THANK GOD THROUGH
35:07 JESUS CHRIST BY LORD. THEN THE NEXT CHAPTER STARTS
35:10 SOME OF THE MOST PROFOUND WORDS OF ALL THE LITERATURE.
35:15 THERE IS THEREFORE NOW NO CONDEMNATION FOR THEM IN
35:22 CHRIST JESUS WHO WALK IN THE FLESH BUT -- SO THAT'S AN
35:29 EXTREME. YOU WILL FIND A LOT OF PEOPLE
35:32 WHO IF THEY ARE NOT ALL THE WAY THERE BUT HAVE THEIR FOOT
35:37 IN THAT CAMP. THEY USE IT TO EXCUSE THEIR
35:39 LOVE OF SIN. THEY USE IT TO EXCUSE THEIR
35:45 PREDILECTION FOR SIN AND THEY USE IT TO EXCUSE THE FACT THEY
35:47 HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT HOW TO LOOK TO JESUS.
35:51 IT'S AN EXCUSE FOR THEM. I'VE HEARD A MILLION TIMES.
35:59 WE'LL KEEP ON SINNING, THERE IS NOTHING ANYBODY CAN DO
36:02 ABOUT IT. I WAS DAMNED TO BE FOR THE
36:07 REST OF MY LIFE. THE SAME AS I WAS BEFORE I
36:10 CAME TO JESUS, I WOULD NEVER HAVE COME TO JESUS.
36:12 WHAT WOULD BE THE POINT OF THAT?
36:14 I WANTED A NEW HEART. I WANTED A NEW LIFE.
36:16 I FOUND THAT IN CHIEFT. HE WAS NOT ABLE TO GIVE THAT
36:20 TO ME T WOULD HAVE BEEN POINTLESS COMING TO JESUS AT
36:23 ALL. I READ WHERE THE GOSPEL
36:26 CONTEMPLATES OUR COMPLETE RECOVERY FROM THE POWER OF
36:29 SATAN. THAT IS A VERY POWERFUL
36:32 STATEMENT. BUT NOW LEST I HAVE GIVEN TOO
36:36 MUCH AMMUNITION TO PEOPLE WHO HUSE IT UNWISELY.
36:39 WE ARE TALKING A MAN WHO CAME TO ME AT THAT SAME CONVENTION.
36:43 HE COULD NOT HAVE BEEN MORE THAN 26.
36:47 YOUNGER. HE SAID, PASTOR, I REALLY NEED
36:55 TO TALK TO YOU. OH, WHAT ABOUT?
36:58 HE SAID, YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T BELIEVE THAT I'M GOING
37:03 TO BE SAVED AND GO TO HELL. I SAID E OH, MAN, WHY IS THAT?
37:08 HE SAID BECAUSE I FOUND THAT THERE IS SIN IN MY LIFE.
37:16 WELL, THAT MAKES YOU THE SAME AS THE REST OF US.
37:20 WHAT MAKES YOU SO DIFFERENT? HE SAID, WELL I'VE BEEN TOLD
37:25 THAT UNLESS I PUT EVERY LAST SIN OUT OF MY LIFE, LIVING A
37:34 PERFECT SINNER'S LIFE, THAT THERE IS NO WAY I CAN HAVE THE
37:37 ASSURANCE I WILL EVER BE SAVED.
37:39 I'VE GOT TO GET TO THAT LEVEL AND THEN I CAN HAVE ASSURANCE.
37:48 AND I SAID, PUT IT OUT OF YOUR MIND.
37:57 DON'T EVEN GO THERE. BECAUSE THERE IS A WAY OUT AND
38:02 WE'LL GET THERE PRETTY QUICKLY.
38:05 I HAD THE YOUNG MAN'S ATTENTION.
38:09 THERE IS SOMETHING THAT MANY, MANY PEOPLE FORGET.
38:14 AND I THINK I'LL READ IT. MARK 4.
38:22 JESUS, THESE PAIR PARABLES WEREN'T FOR NOTHING.
38:29 IT IS VERSE 26. THIS IS WHERE JESUS SAID SO IS
38:33 THE KINGDOM OF GOD AS IF IS MAN CAST A SEED INTO THE
38:39 GROUND. I PAUSE HERE.
38:41 WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY MAY WELL MAKE SOME SAY, I'M OKAY WITH
38:47 THAT. BECAUSE IT GIVES AN IMMENSE
38:51 AMOUNT OF HOPE TO SOME PEOPLE. SOME PEOPLE AREN'T ABLE TO
38:56 LOOK STRAIGHT BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS A BIT OF A BLUR,
38:59 A BIT AFTER A BIT OF A HAZE.
39:11 SOP IS THE KINGDOM OF GOD, AND NIGHT AND DAY AND THE SEED
39:21 SHOULD SPRING AND GROW UP. THEN JESUS SAID FOR THE EARTH
39:25 BRING IT FORTH FRUIT OF HERSELF.
39:28 FIRST THE BLADE, THEN THE EAR, THEN THE FULL CORN IN THE EAR.
39:35 BUT WHEN THE FRUIT IS BROUGHT FORTH, THE HARVEST HAS COME.
39:42 JESUS IS TALKING ABOUT SPIRITUAL GROWTH.
39:47 MONDAY, I WAS IN SANTA CRUZ, CALIFORNIA, JUST OUT OF SANTA
39:53 CRUZ. THE HENRY RED WOOD STATE PARK.
40:00 THEY REACH RIGHT UP AND SCRAPE THE CLOUDS.
40:03 YOU CAN'T HARDLY LOOK AT THE TREES IN YOUR BACKWARD, YOU
40:08 JUST SHAKE YOUR HEAD. THERE WAS A REDWOOD THAT HAD
40:16 FALLEN OVER. CAN YOU SEE THE RINGS AND THIS
40:20 HAD BEEN GROWING A COUPLE OF HUNDRED YEARS BEFORE JESUS WAS
40:24 BORN. BUT IN FRONT OF THEM AND THESE
40:30 WILL THIN OUT. LITERAL TEENAGERS.
40:36 SKINNY LITTLE GREEN THINGS. JESUS IS TALKING ABOUT GROWTH.
40:44 A REDWOOD TREE WILL START WITH A SEED OR A CONE, A SEED IN A
40:49 CONE. THAT SEED WILL GO INTO THE
40:52 GROUND. SOMETHING IS GOING TO POP UP
40:56 OUT OF THE GROUND. WHAT IS THAT THAT POPS UP OUT
41:00 OF THE GROUND. THAT IS A REDWOOD TREE.
41:04 COMPARE IT TO THIS THING HERE UP IN THE AIR THIS REDWOOD
41:10 TREE ISN'T MUCH. WHEN JESUS SPOKE TO NICODEMUS,
41:19 HE SAID -- HE SAID YOU HAVE TO BE HIKE THIS HERE.
41:27 NICODEMUS SAID, OH, HOW CAN THAT BE AND SO FORTH.
41:33 JESUS IS TALKING ABOUT SPIRITUAL GROWTH.
41:37 NO ONE IS BORN 37 YEARS OLD. NO ONE IS BORN WITH A LICENSE
41:42 TO DRIVE HEAVY EQUIPMENT. THEY ARE BORN AS BABIES.
41:48 THE SPIRITUALLY BORN ARE SPIRITUAL BABIES.
41:52 THAT'S JUST HOW IT ISEN I LIKE THEM, I REALLY DO LIKE THEM.
41:59 I LIKE MY OWN MORE THN MOST PEOPLE'S.
42:03 THEY ARE WONDERFUL. LET'S BE HONEST ABOUT BABIES.
42:07 WE HAVE ALL BROUGHT BABIES HOME FROM THE HOSPITAL.
42:12 THERE IS NOT MUCH THEY CAN DO. MOST WHAT THEY DO, THEY ARE
42:19 PRETTY ANTI-SOCIAL. THEY SCREAM IN THE NIGHT AND
42:22 THEY SMELL FUNNY, THEY SPIT UP ON YOU.
42:28 OFTEN, YOU PUT ON THAT POWDER OR LOTION, MMM, THAT ONLY
42:33 LASTS A SHORT TIME. THEN THEY ARE BACK.
42:38 THE BABY CANNOT FEED ITSELF. WHEN MY SON WAS TRYING TO FEED
42:45 HIMSELF, HE WOULD END UP WITH THE MARK OF DEFEAT.
42:52 CANNOT PUT THEIR SHOES ON. CANNOT DRESS THEMSELVES.
42:57 AT THAT AGE, THEY SAY, OKAY, NOW WE'LL HAVE A DEBATE ABOUT
43:07 THIS. DO I HAVE A SAY IN THIS
43:11 TRANSACTION. THEY CAN'T DRIVE A CAR OR
43:16 PILOT AN AIRCRAFT. THEY ARE NOT GOOD FOR MUCH.
43:20 JUST BE FRANK. EXCEPT THEY ARE GOOD FOR
43:25 LOVING AND GROWING. >> YES.
43:30 >> LOVING AND GROWING. ONE LITTLE REDWOOD, YOU WON'T
43:33 CUT THAT DOWN AND MAKE ANY FURNITURE OUT OF IT.
43:36 THAT WILL NEVER BE A BUILDING. CUT THEM DOWN, YOU CAN MAKE
43:51 STUFF OUT OF THEM, FINE. BUT WHEN THEY ARE A YEAR OLD,
43:55 THEY ARE NOT GOOD FOR ANYTHING.
43:57 IF YOU OWN A PINE PLANTATION, YOUR PINE TREES ARE ONE YEAR
44:02 OLD, THEY ARE NOT GOOD FOR ANYTHING, YOU WOULD SAY, HOLD
44:07 ON, THEY ARE VALUABLE THEY JUST HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO
44:11 MATURITY YET. YOU LOOK IN THE FIELD AND SAY
44:19 THERE IS NOTHING THERE. ONE DAY YOU DRIVE BY, I THINK
44:24 THERE IS SOMETHING THERE. YOU CAN SEE LITTLE GREEN.
44:29 YOU ALMOST CAN'T SEE. IT BEFORE LONG, THE BIG ONIONS
44:35 ARE READY TO HARVEST. >> YOU KNOW THERE IS NO SUCH
44:38 THING AS A SWEET ONION. THERE IS NO SUCH THING, MY
44:43 STOMACH TELLS ME. I WENT TO WALLA WALLA AND I
44:47 TOTALLY AGREE. I DO NOT EATON YOINS.
44:51 >> OH, BUT YOU WILL LAS VEGAS THESE.
44:54 I THOUGHT THERE WAS NO ONIONS IN IT.
45:00 THESE AREN'T REGULAR, THESE ARE WALL LAWALLA SWEETS.
45:06 >> THIS MAY BE A HUGE STATEMENT.
45:09 I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU SAY, THEY ARE NOT SWEET.
45:30 JESUS WASN'T TALKING ABOUT MONTERREY PINES.
45:33 HE IS TALKING ABOUT BELIEVERS. I WANTED TO SAY TO MY YOUNG
45:37 FRIENDS AT THE CONVENTION. YOU ARE PARTLY TO BLAME.
45:41 GET USED TO IT. THE INFANT THAT IS 2 YEARS OLD
45:45 SPENT TIME FALLING OVER. IT'S WHAT 2 YEARS OLD DO.
45:49 WHEN THEY ARE 5 THEY STILL TUMBLE FROM TIME TO TIME.
45:54 AT 15 THEY HAVE THE OCCASIONAL TRIP.
45:57 IT IS LESS AND LESS. SO YOU GOT TO GROW.
46:04 THIS I BELIEVE IS THE MISSING LINK IN THE CHRISTIAN
46:09 EXPERIENCE WHEN IT COMES TO THE SUBJECT OF RIGHTEOUSNESS
46:12 BY FAITH. BY THE WAY, THE AUTHOR THAT I
46:16 TOLD YOU ABOUT WAS A PASTOR. GOODNESS, WHERE IT'S GONE, I
46:24 HATE TO THINK. SO YOU START SMALL.
46:28 AND YOU GROW. THIS IS THE MISSING LINK IN
46:34 RIGHTEOUSNESS. MY BOOK-WRITING FRIEND HAS
46:36 PEOPLE SITTING, YOU CAN'T COUNT ON ANYTHING MORE, THAT'S
46:42 JUST HOW IT'S BE. THAT WOULD BE DISASTROUS.
46:46 BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE. THERE IS A TENDENCY THAT SAYS,
46:49 HOLD OWE A MINUTE. YOU DIDN'T EAT THE RIGHT
46:54 AMOUNT OF ALMONDS. I SAW A SNEAK A CHOCOLATE CHIP
46:58 COOKIE. YOU DID SOMETHING WRONG.
46:59 HOW CAN YOU CALL YOURSELF A CHRISTIAN.
47:02 EUROPE NOT PERFECT ENOUGH. BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT PERFECT,
47:06 THEN JESUS CAN'T COME BACK AND ALL THIS.
47:11 WE SAID EARLIER, THE PROBLEM WITH THESE CONVERSATIONS THERE
47:16 IS A MODICUM OF TRUTH. JESUS DOES WANTS US TO BE
47:21 SAVED. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT.
47:22 YOU TALK ABOUT THAT, YOU TAKE YOUR LIFE IN YOUR HANDS.
47:25 WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHERE PERFECTION COMES FROM AND WHAT
47:28 IT LOOKS LIKE. HE DOES WANT TO YOU HAVE THESE
47:30 THINGS. HOW DO WE GET FROM HERE TO
47:33 THERE. HOW CAN WE HAVE A VIBRANT
47:35 RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS AND HAVE ASSURANCES OF OUR
47:40 SALVATION WITH TREATING THE GOT PELL WITH INTEGRITY.
47:45 THE GOSPEL WITH INTEGRITY. JESUS WAS CLEAR.
47:49 FIRST THE BLADE. THEN THE EAR.
47:50 WHAT IS HE TALKING ABOUT? HE IS TALKING ABOUT THE
47:52 PROCESS OF GROWING. GROWTH.
47:57 I WOULDN'T LIE TO ANYBODY AND CLAIM I AM THE FINISHED
48:01 PRODUCT. I WOULDN'T WANT TO DO THAT.
48:04 I'M NOT. BUT MY EXPECTATION, I'M
48:11 GROWING AND CONTINUING TO GROW.
48:13 I THANK GOD I'M NOT WHAT I WAS WHEN I FIRST CAME TO CHRIST.
48:19 I'M A MILLION MILES FROM THERE.
48:24 NEVERTHELESS, I HAD SALVATION. I WASN'T DOING EVERYTHING
48:28 RIGHT. I WASN'T FOLLOWING ALL THE
48:30 RULES. I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND SOME OF
48:32 THE PRINCIPLES. SOME I DID UNDERSTAND BUT,
48:36 WHOO, NO WAY I CAN DO THAT IN MY LIFE.
48:38 I HAVE A LOT OF LEARNING TO DO.
48:40 THERE IS A CHALLENGE AND THE CHALLENGE IS MULTI-FACETED.
48:45 YOU TALK ABOUT PEOPLE COMING INTO THE CHURCH.
48:49 WE'LL SEGUE AWAY FROM IT. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DON'T
48:55 KNOW THEY HAVE SALVATION OR THEY DO NOT BELIEVE THEY HAVE
48:59 SALVATION BECAUSE I'M NOT DOING RIGHT WHAT HAPPENS IS
49:03 THIS. WE AS CHRISTIANS HAVE A
49:06 PROBLEM SEPARATING PERFORMANCE FROM SALVATION.
49:14 RIGHT? SEPARATING PERFORMANCE FROM
49:18 SALVATION. FOR EXAMPLE, I LOST MY TEMPER
49:20 THIS MORNING, SO I DON'T THINK I HAVE SALVATION.
49:24 YOU KNW, I LIKE TO EAT THE FOOD I SHOULDN'T EAT, I HAVE A
49:31 WEAKNESS. I HAVE A HANKERING.
49:33 ONCE IN A WHILE I WEAKEN, SO I DON'T HAVE SALVATION.
49:38 NONSENSE. WHAT YOU HAVE IS JESUS AND YOU
49:40 ARE GROWING. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE FACTOR
49:44 IN WHAT IS THE ATTITUDES OF YOUR HEART.
49:48 WHAT IS THE ATTITUDE OF YOUR HEART.
49:50 ARE YOU SINCERE? WE HAVE TO FACTOR THAT GROWTH
49:56 IN. WE HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE
49:57 ARE HAVING AN EXPERIENCE. WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SAY,
50:01 YES, I AM GROWING IN JESUS. I MAY HAVE MY WEAKNESSES BUT
50:06 I'M BRINGING THEM TO JESUS BUT HE IS GROWING ME.
50:09 A LITTLE PATIENCE WITH OURSELVES.
50:10 YOU DON'T WANT TO GET COMFORTABLE IN YOUR SIN.
50:13 THIS IDEA WE HAVE TO PULL OURSELVES BY OUR BOOT STRAPS
50:17 AND WE CANNOT HAVE THE ASSURANCE OF SALVATION UNTIL
50:20 WE REACH A CERTAIN LEVEL IS DEVASTATING.
50:25 IT DRIVES PEOPLE AWAY FROM JESUS.
50:28 >> I THINK WHAT IT DOES, THIS IS ONE OF HIS PLOYS AND THAT
50:35 IS TO DETRACT FROM THE TRUE CHARACTER OF GOD.
50:41 SO YOU THINK -- HE IS WAITING FOR YOU TO MESS UP SO THAT HE
50:48 CAN BLOCK YOUR NAME OUT OF THE BOOK OF LIFE.
50:51 THEN YOU HAVE A TOTALLY DISTORTED VIEW OF WHO GOD IS.
50:55 THAT'S WHAT SATAN WANTS TO YOU DO.
50:56 IT'S A JOURNEY. IT'S A PROCESS.
50:59 >> YES. >> IT'S NOT JUST THIS IS
51:01 THERE. IF THAT'S THE CASE WE WOULD
51:05 ALL BE -- >> THAT'S RIGHT.
51:07 >> WE NO MORE BECOME PERFECT BY OUR ACTIONS OR INACTIONS,
51:11 NOT DOING THIS, NOT DOING THAT, THAN WE CAN BECOME
51:15 PERFECT PHYSICALLY. INSTEAD OF GETTING OLDER AND
51:18 LOSING OUR HAIR AND TEETH, JUST SAY, LOOK, I'LL JUST BE
51:23 PERFECT. WE HAVE NO MORE CONTROL OF
51:25 THAT THAN THE OTHER. ONLY THROUGH CHRIST, I'VE BEEN
51:30 THERE. I'VE SEEN THEM.
51:35 YOU DIDN'T DO THIS, YOU DIDN'T DO THAT, HOW CAN YOU
51:40 POSSIBLY -- PEOPLE COME TO MY HOUSE, THEY WERE INTERESTED IN
51:44 THE MINISTRY, INVITE THEM OVER.
51:47 I'VE HAD PEOPLE GO THROUGH THE CABINET AND READ THE LAIBLESZ.
51:54 ANYTHING WITH A LABEL, YOU SHOULDN'T BE EATING IT.
52:00 I DIDN'T KNOW. I NOPE IT'S ONE THING THAT THE
52:03 PEOPLE WHO ARE SO LEGALISTIC, SO DO AND DON'T, ARE SOME OF
52:09 THE MOST UNHEALTHY PEOPLE. >> THEY DON'T HAVE THE JOY OF
52:17 SALVATION. NO, NO, NO.
52:20 WE'LL BE VERY, GOOD. WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE SIN.
52:24 JESUS IS AGAINST. IT BIBLE IS AGAINST IT.
52:28 WE WON'T GIVE ANYBODY A FREE PASS.
52:30 THE FOLKS THAT WANT THE LOWER THE BOOM ON YOU OR ON THEMSELF
52:34 THEY CANNOT HAVE JOY BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT
52:38 THE ASSURANCE OF SALVATION BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING
52:42 FOR STRIVING, HOPING, WISHING BUT THEY NEVER KNOW.
52:49 JOHN WROTE SO THAT YOU CAN KNOW THAT YOU HAVE ETERNAL
52:53 LIFE. TAKE A COUPLE OF MINUTES JUST
52:56 TO PIVOT -- I USED THAT WORD BEFORE.
52:59 SOME THINGS WE'LL COME BACK TO, I'M NOT DONE.
53:02 HERE IS WHERE IT BECOMES DEVASTATING IN THE CHURCH.
53:05 I'M LOOKING AT ME AND I'M SAYING I CAN'T BE GOOD ENOUGH
53:09 FOR GOOD. I CAN'T BE GOOD ENOUGH TO GO
53:11 TO HEAVEN. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I DID.
53:15 I GOT ANGRY WITH A GUY WHO CUT ME OFF IN TRAFFIC.
53:18 WHAT THAT TELLS YOU, YOU HAVE GROWING TO DO.
53:21 IT DOESN'T TELL YOU THAT YOU ARE LOST.
53:22 IT DOESN'T TELL YOU YOU ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN.
53:28 IF WE DON'T WRITE THE PRESCRIPTION FOR SOMEONE
53:31 ELSE'S SALVATION, WE HAVE TO TRUST.
53:34 THAT PERSON COMING IN YOUR CABINETS IS WANTING TO DRAG
53:38 YOU HIS OR HER WAY. HE DOESN'T TRUST YOUR
53:41 RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD THAT GOD CAN GUIDE YOU.
53:43 WE HAVE TO TRUST PEOPLE TO GROW WITH JESUS.
53:48 WHAT HAPPENS IS THIS. HE COMES TO THE CHURCH AND HE
54:00 HE -- I UNDERSTAND PARENTS WITH THEIR CHILDREN.
54:03 I GET THAT. THAT'S NOT A BAD THING.
54:08 THAT'S A TEACHING MOMENT. YOU KNOW EMILY, MOMMY DOESN'T
54:14 DRESS THAT WAY BUT WE LOVE PEOPLE WHO DO.
54:18 SOME PEOPLE DON'T SEE THE WAY WE DO.
54:21 YOU CAN EASILY USE THESE AS TEACHING MOMENTS.
54:24 WHAT HAPPENS IS, WHEN A MAN COMES IN, PEOPLE IN THE CHURCH
54:31 ARE SAYING THIS MAN ISN'T A REAL CHRISTIAN.
54:36 THIS MAN MAYBE -- MAYBE THERE IS SOMEONE IN IN THE CHURCH
54:43 AND THEY HAVE AN ANGER PROBLEM.
54:46 I'M NOT MINIMIZING THAT. NOW YOU ARE LOOKING DOWN YOUR
54:50 NOSE AT THAT PERSON, SAYING HE IS NOT A TRUE CHRISTIAN.
54:54 OR THIS PERSON DOESN'T KNOW EVERYTHING THAT I KNOW, HE IS
54:57 NOTE A TRUE CRIMP. THAT PERSON IS MORE THAN
55:01 LIKELY -- IT'S LIKE SAYING THIS ISN'T A TRUE REDWOOD
55:04 TREE. OF COURSE IT'S A TRUE REDWOOD
55:10 TREE. LET'S GET IN YOUR CORN PATCH
55:12 AND CUT IT ALL DOWN BECAUSE THAT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO
55:17 EAT. YOU'D SAY GET OUT OF MY CORN
55:21 PATCH. I'M ABOUT TO ADD NITROGEN AND
55:24 SOON I'LL HAVE THE BEST CORN IN THE COUNTY.
55:27 LET IT GROW. DON'T HURT T LET IT GROW.
55:30 KEEP THE PESTS AWAY SO IT CAN GROW.
55:32 KEEP THE BUGS OUT SO IT CAN GROW.
55:36 KEEP THE PESTS AWAY SOME OF THE CHRISTIANS, SOME OF THE
55:40 NEW BELIEVERS SO THEY CAN GROW.
55:42 IT'S AN IMPORTANT STAGE. IT'S MORE WISDOM THAN I'VE
55:50 GOT, THE WORK OF A LIFETIME. TALKING ABOUT GROWING.
55:53 AND WE GROW IN JESUS. WE JUST DON'T STOP GROWING.
56:00 ON THE OTHER SIDE. THERE IS A QUESTION I'M GOING
56:04 TO ASK. IT'S A PROVOCATIVE QUESTION.
56:08 >> WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A BREAK BUT TELL US WHAT IT WILL BE.
56:11 >> SOME PEOPLE WILL FALL FOR. IT EVERYBODY DOES.
56:14 I ASK A QUESTION. SHOULD A PERSON BE PERFECT,
56:19 DOES A PERSON HAVE TO BE PERFECT IN ORDER TO -- DON'T
56:24 ANSWER. DOES A PERSON HAVE TO BE
56:28 PERFECT IN ORDER TO BE BAPTIZED.
56:30 I'LL TELL YOU THAT THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS YES.
56:34 I'LL TELL YOU WHY. >> OH, OKAY.
56:37 >> FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER. >> I KNOW.
56:47 WE'VE HAD A GREAT TIME SO FAR. FOR THOSE OF YOU WE'LL TAKE A
56:50 BREAK, CALL IN FOR YOUR FREE OFFER.
56:55 ALSO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
56:58 I'LL TAKE THE LAST 30 MINUTES, WE WANT HIM TO WALK US THROUGH
57:02 THIS WHOLE TIME AND WHATEVER TIME LEFT WE'LL ASK THE FOLKS
57:06 TO BRING YOUR COMMENTS, YOUR QUESTIONS.
57:09 WE LOVE HEARING FROM YOU. WE'LL TAKE A BREAK IN JUST A
57:13 FEW MOMENTS. TELL US HOW WE CAN GET THIS.
57:16 >> CALL US AT 618-627-4651 OR E-MAIL US.
57:29 SOMETIMES HE BRINGS US, MOST OF THE TIME, THINGS WE DON'T
57:32 ALREADY KNOW. >> I LOVE THOSE.
57:36 >> THIS IS SO FREEING. >> IT WILL ONLY GET BETTER.
57:42 GOODER AND BETTER. DON'T GO AWAY, WE'LL BE BACK
57:46 IN JUST A MINUTE.


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