SET US UP ABOUT FRANK AND
TRAINING CAN TAKE IT FROM THERE.
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>> FRANK HAD A NUMBER OF THINGS
GOING ON BEFORE WE MET WHEN HE
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CAME TO THE PROGRAM.
FRANK AND I FIRST MET WHEN HE
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CAME THROUGH THE DEPRESSION AND
ANXIETY RECOVERY PROGRAM NOT TOO
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LONG AGO. >>
FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR.
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>> ACTUALLY STARTS A TIME
BEFORE THAT AND THEN IT BUILDS.
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TELL US ABOUT SOME OF THE
ISSUES THAT BROUGHT YOU THERE.
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>> I HAD PROBABLY TWO BIG
ISSUES THAT I WAS DEALING WITH.
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ONE WAS AN ISSUE THAT OCCURRED
WHEN I WAS STATIONED OVERSEAS IN
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THE NAVY AND I HAD LOST A GOOD
FRIEND OF MINE, AND HAD SORT OF
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TAKEN RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT.
I HAD CARRIED THAT WITH ME FOR A
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LONG TIME. THE
OTHER WAS AN ISSUE OF
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CHRONIC PAIN. I HAD
BROKEN MY BACK AND NECK
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BACK IN THE '70S WHEN I WAS IN
THE SERVICE AND HAD TO DATE NOW
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ABOUT 15 OR 16 SPINAL
SURGERIES. MY BACK AND MY NECK.
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AND I THINK THAT WAS THE BIG
PART OF IT WAS PEOPLE IN CHRONIC
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PAIN HAVE TO DO ALL THE THINGS
THAT PEOPLE AREN'T IN CHRONIC
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HAVE TO DO. YOU RAISE
FAMILIES AND YOU WORK.
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YOU HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF ALL THE
DAILY THINGS BUT YOU HAVE TO DO
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IT IN PAIN ALL THE TIME.
SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIG
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ISSUES THAT I HAD AND JUST GETS
DISCOURAGING AFTER A WHILE AND
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MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO STAY
FOCUSSED ON WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
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>> I CAN'T IMAGINE DEALING
WITH PAIN EVERY SINGLE DAY.
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YOU HAVE PAIN
SOMETIMES. IT'S INTERMITTENTLY.
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BUT TO HAVE IT EVERY SINGLE
DAY AND HAVE TO DO THE NORMAL
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ACTIVITIES OF
LIFE BUT WITH PAIN.
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SO THE NATURAL
INCLINATION IS TO MEDICATE.
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TO DO SOMETHING.
SOMETHING TO GET RID OF THE
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PAIN. >> I HAD AN UNFORTUNATE
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BACKGROUND WITH DRUGS.
NOT NECESSARILY FOR THAT.
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I HAD SOCIAL ANXIETY ISSUES, AND
I MEDICATED FOR THAT MORE THAN I
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DID FOR THE PAIN. THE
PAIN I JUST DEALT WITH AS
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BEST AS I COULD. >> WAS
WAS YOUR CHILDHOOD LIKE.
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HOW DID YOU GROW UP? >>
IT WAS A BIT PROBLEMATIC.
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I HAD SOCIAL AND BEHAVIORAL
PROBLEMS GROW WILLING UP.
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MY PARENTS KEPT ME OFF THE
MEDICATIONS THAT A LOT OF THE
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KIDS ENDED UP BUT IT MADE
IT DIFFICULT FOR ME TO INTERACT
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WITH PEOPLE IN A HEALTHY
WAY. MY INTRODUCTION TO DRUG
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ADDICTION WAS THAT I FOUND THAT
I COULD BECOME A LITTLE MORE
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NORMAL SOCIALLY BUT
AFTER A WHILE THAT GOES AWAY.
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>> WHAT WAS YOUR DRUG OF
CHOICE >> I PREFER NOT TO SAY.
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IT WAS ALL DRUGS. I
DIDN'T DRINK BECAUSE I
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COULDN'T BUT
EVERYTHING ELSE WAS OPEN GAME.
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>> DID THAT EFFECT YOUR ABILITY
TO FUNCTION BESIDES THE LEGAL
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ISSUES AND TROUBLES, I
COULDN'T FUNCTION AS A FAMILY.
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I COULDN'T HOLD A JOB.
WORK THAT I SOUGHT AFTER,
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REQUIRES A GREAT DEAL OF
FOCUS AND I COULDN'T DO IT THEN.
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>> SO I JUST
BOUNCED A ROUND A LOT.
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>> I THINK THERE IS PROBABLY
A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE IN
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THAT SAME KIND OF SITUATION
WHERE THEY CAN'T FOCUS.
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I HAD GONE THROUGH DIVORCE AND
MY HOUSE HAD BURNED DOWN AND I
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END UP JOBLESS AND LIVING IN MY
VAN FOR -- I DON'T WANT TO TAKE
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AWAY FROM HOW TERRIBLE IT IS TO
BE HOMELESS FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE
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TRULY HOMELESS LONG TERM.
I WAS ONLY THERE FOR A SHORT
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PERIOD OF TIME. BUT
THINGS CAN GET OUT OF HAND.
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AND I THINK -- I'LL SAY BECAUSE
I REALLY WORKED WITH DON WITH
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SOME OF THE SPIRITUAL PARTS
OF THIS, BUT IT'S NOT THOSE
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INDIVIDUAL
ADDICTIONS THAT ARE THE PROBLEM.
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IT'S THE MORE WE SEPARATE FROM
GOD THOSE BECOME SYMPTOMS AND
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MANIFESTATIONS
OF THAT: I LEARNED
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>> HOW DID YOU BANS BOUNCE
BACK FROM THE HOMELESSNESS.
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>> IT WAS ONLY 6-8 MONTHS THAT
THAT WENT ON AND I JUST -- I WAS
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IN A PROGRAM OF RECOVERY.
I HAD A FAIRLY GOOD SUPPORT
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GROUP. I DIDN'T
DO IT BY MYSELF FOR
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SURE. >> I THINK
THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT
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TO CONSIDER THAT WHEN YOU'RE
GOING THROUGH THIS YOU NEED SOME
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SUPPORT. YOU NEED
PEOPLE AROUND YOU WHO
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ARE GOING TO CARE IF YOU DON'T
HAVE A SPIRITUAL ORIENTATION
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YOU'RE MISSING SO MUCH.
YOU CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT GOD.
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>>SY MEAN, YOU MIGHT MAKE SOME
LITTLE BEHAVIORAL MODIFICATIONS
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BUT YOU WON'T HAVE THAT GENUINE
TRANSFORMATION AND IT'S WHAT IS
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GOING TO LAST. >> I
THINK THAT'S WHY THE
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SUICIDE RATES ARE SO HIGH.
A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE
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THE RELATIONSHIP WITH CHRIST.
IF THIS IS ALL THERE IS, THIS IS
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IT, I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT.
HOW PEOPLE WOULD BECOME THAT
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DISCOURAGED THAT THEY
WOULD TAKE THEIR OWN LIVES.
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>> HOW DID YOU COME TO KNOW
GOD? >> SO I WAS BORN AND RAISED
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JEWISH AND FAIRLY ORTHODOX.
MY PARENTS WERE ORTHODOX.
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MY PARENTS WERE CONSERVATIVE
BUT I HAD MET SOMEBODY A YOUNG
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LADY -- THIS GOES BACK ABOUT 30
YEARS, 30 YEARS AGO, AND WE WERE
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HAVING A PRETTY
HEATED CONVERSATION.
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NOT HEATED BUT INTENSE
CONVERSATION ABOUT WHO JESUS
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CHRIST WAS AND IF HE
WAS REALLY THE SON OF GOD.
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HE SAID TO ME -- I REMEMBER
THIS, HE SAID YOU'RE A PRETTY
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SMART GUY SO I IMAGINE TO HAVE
THAT STRONG OF AN OPINION YOU
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PROBABLY READ THE
BIBLE SEVERAL TIMES.
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I WENT, WELL, NEVER ACTUALLY.
AND SHE GAVE ME A BIBLE AND I
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WENT HOME AND I SPENT THE NEXT
5 OR 6 HOURS I READ THROUGH THE
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GOSPEL AND I WAS
INSTANTLY CONVERTED.
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>> FROM READING THE GOSPEL,
MATTHEW, MARK, LUKE AND JOHN,
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THAT WAS IT NOR YOU? >>
IF YOU HAVE A LOGICAL MIND
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AND IF YOU'RE CRITICALLY
THINKING IT'S FAIRLY HARD TO
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MISS THAT POINT. IT'S
PRETTY WELL LAID OUT THERE
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IN A FAIRLY LOGICAL WAY AND I
DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW PEOPLE MISS
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IT NOW. MAYBE I'M
TOO FAR FROM THAT TIME
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NOW THAT I DON'T GET HOW DO YOU
MISS SOMETHING THAT THAT'S WELL
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STRUCTURED. >>
WORD OF THE LORD DOES
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CONVERT. >> IT'S A LIVING WORD.
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IT WAS JUST REDING THE
BIBLE THAT BROUGHT ME TO MY
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TRANSFORMED LIFE. >>
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>> SPEAKING OF WHICH, WHAT MADE
YOU WANT TO GO INTO THIS LINE OF
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WORK? >> WELL,
CHRIST WAS A HEALER.
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AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S A
WONDERFUL HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO
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BE INVOLVED IN HELPING AND BEING
HIS HANDS AND HIS FEET AND HIS
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VOICE AND HELPING OTHERS TO GET
TO THAT PATHWAY OF HEALING AND
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TRANSFORMATION. AND SO,
YEAH, THAT WAS CERTAINLY
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CHRIST MODEL AND
EXAMPLE IS MY MAIN REASON.
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ALTHOUGH MY FATHER MADE SOME
CHANGES IN HIS LIFE WHEN I WAS
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TEENAGER GROWING UP AND I SAW
A NEW FATHER EMERGE BEHAVIORALLY
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HE MADE CHANGES WITH DIET
AND EXERCISE AND THOSE TYPE OF
00:11:02.62\00:11:05.43
THINGS AND I SAW A NEW FATHER
EMERGE AND SO I KNEW THERE WAS A
00:11:05.43\00:11:09.33
LOT TO WHAT YOU PUT INTO YOUR
BODY AND WHAT YOU DO WITH YOUR
00:11:09.33\00:11:13.77
BODY IS CRUCIALLY IMPORTANT IN
REGARDS TO HOW HEALTHY AND EVEN
00:11:13.77\00:11:16.77
HOW HAPPY YOU'RE GOING TO BE.
SO I ALWAYS HAD AN INTEREST IN
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LIFESTYLE AND NUTRITION AND
MEDICINE AND I PAID ATTENTION TO
00:11:27.05\00:11:30.29
THOSE THINGS IN SPECIAL TRAINING
AND ENDED UP EMPHASIZING AND
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SEEING THE
POWERFUL IMPACT THAT MAKES.
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HOW DID THAT IMPACT YOUR JOURNEY
FARCE AS FAR AS THE ADDICTION
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AND DEPRESSION AND ALL THAT.
HOW DID FINDING JESUS IMPACT
00:11:53.58\00:12:02.08
YOUR LIFE? >> THE
ADDICTION HAD GONE AWAY A
00:12:02.08\00:12:09.69
GOOD PART OF IT. BUT
SOMETIMES OUR BEHAVIORS
00:12:09.69\00:12:16.40
DON'T NECESSARILY CHANGE
WE CARRY IT ON SOMETIMES.
00:12:16.40\00:12:29.48
IT WAS PROGRESSIVE. WE
HAD A VERY CONSERVATIVE
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PASTOR. I LOVE THE GUY.
00:12:34.75\00:12:35.72
HE WAS GREAT
ANDPY WAS STILL SMOKING.
00:12:35.72\00:12:42.42
I WENT TO HIM AND I
SAID I GOT TO GET BAPTIZED.
00:12:42.42\00:12:46.33
I SAID I JUST FEEL LIKE BEING
CHASED BY SATAN AND I GOT TO GET
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BAPTIZED. I MET A
PASTOR SEVERAL WEEKS AGO
00:12:51.57\00:12:54.47
BEFORE AND HE SAID SOMETIMES YOU
HAVE TO MAKE AT THE DECISION AND
00:12:54.47\00:12:56.77
THEN YOU LEARN TO LOVE
AND I THOUGHT THIS WAS GREAT.
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HE WAS TALKING
ABOUT ARRANGED MARRIAGES.
00:13:02.98\00:13:05.68
HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT.
>> HE SAID WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO
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QUIT SMOKING. I SAID
FRIDAY NIGHT BEFORE MY
00:13:14.56\00:13:18.33
BAPTIZING. HE SAID
WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO
00:13:18.33\00:13:20.43
TAKE YOUR ERR RING OUTSY
SAID FRIDAY NIGHT BEFORE I GET
00:13:20.43\00:13:41.05
BAPTIZED. EVERY
DAY NEW TRUTHS ARE
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REVEALED AND MY RELATIONSHIP
WITH CHRIST CONTINUES TO GROW.
00:13:43.72\00:13:48.09
BACK A STEP SOMETIMES AND
FORWARD A COUPLE OF STEPS.
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IT PROGRESSES QUICKLY AND THEN
THERE'S A LULL AND THEN TAKES ON
00:14:01.60\00:14:04.27
A LIFE OF ITS OWN. SHE
SAID I DON'T BLACK ABOUT
00:14:04.27\00:14:47.95
THIS TO MY FRIENDS
AND I SAID THAT'S FINE.
00:14:47.95\00:14:50.15
SHE SAID HOW ABOUT WE
NEVER TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN.
00:14:50.15\00:14:54.86
HONOR THY MOTHER AND FATHER.
SO I HAVE GONE THAT ROUTE WITH
00:14:54.86\00:15:00.66
THAT. >> YOU WENT
HE TO THE SOLUTIONS
00:15:00.66\00:15:03.70
PROGRAM. WHERE
WERE YOU AND IN TERMS OF
00:15:03.70\00:15:05.33
YOUR FUNCTIONING.
AND WHERE ARE YOU NOW.
00:15:05.33\00:15:07.87
>> WELL, CAN I TELL YOU THAT
I WAS I KNEW AND SHE HAS GOT A
00:15:07.87\00:15:39.50
GIFT OF DISCERNMENT I KNEW
IF SHE SAW THIS AND I DIDN'T IT
00:15:39.50\00:15:46.68
MUST BE REALLY BAD. THEY
PICKED ME UP AT THE AIRPORT
00:15:46.68\00:15:57.32
AND ONE OF MY BIGGEST ANXIETY IS
BEING AROUND A BUNCH OF PEOPLE I
00:15:57.32\00:16:01.09
DON'T KNOW AND
THIS IS AN GOOD START.
00:16:01.09\00:16:07.73
BUT I CAN TELL YOU THERE ARE
3 THINGS THEY FOCUSSED ON THE
00:16:07.73\00:16:11.77
MEANTLE AND
SPIRITUAL AND THE PHYSICAL.
00:16:11.77\00:16:23.65
I THOUGHT I WAS DOING A LOT
OF THINGS RIGHT BUT I WASN'T.
00:16:23.65\00:16:28.35
I JUST I CAN'T SAY HOW
GRATEFUL I AM THAT I WENT THERE.
00:16:28.35\00:16:33.02
GOD KNOWS NO HURRY AND DELAY.
HIS TIMING IS IMPECCABLE SO IT
00:16:33.02\00:16:39.46
HAPPENED EXACTLY AS IT WAS
SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN AS WELL.
00:16:39.46\00:16:41.73
IT WAS A STRUGGLE
BEFORE I WENT. WITHOUT A DOUBT.
00:16:41.73\00:16:44.90
>> THIS WITH 16 SAOP SURGERIES
ON HIS SPINE AS WELL, AND THE
00:16:44.90\00:16:52.27
PAIN AND ALL THAT, WE DON'T KNOW
UNTIL SOMEONE GOES THROUGH THE
00:16:52.27\00:16:56.01
PROGRAM HOW THAT'S GOING TO
BE. BUT I DIDN'T HAVE REAL HIGH
00:16:56.01\00:17:01.45
HOPES THAT THIS PAIN WOULD
REALLY GET ANY BETTER AS IT HAD
00:17:01.45\00:17:06.25
OVER MANY YEARS. BUT I
REMEMBER FRANK AS IT WAS
00:17:06.25\00:17:09.12
GETTING CLOSE TO THE END OF
THE PROGRAM, I BELIEVE THE FIRST
00:17:09.12\00:17:25.81
PAIN FREE DAY IN MY
ADULT LIFE OCCURRED THERE.
00:17:25.81\00:17:29.04
I REMEMBER
THAT. I REMEMBER THAT.
00:17:29.04\00:17:32.45
AND IT WAS THE CONTRAST BATHS.
AS A MATTER OF FACT WHEN I WENT
00:17:32.45\00:17:36.05
HOME I WENT TO RURAL KING AND I
BOUGHT 100 GALLON FEED TUB AND I
00:17:36.05\00:17:42.36
FILLED IT WITH WATER AND GOT 10
GALLONS OF WATER AND I PUT THEM
00:17:42.36\00:17:47.66
IN THE FREEZER AND I WOULD THROW
THEM THIS THAT TUB AND I GET IN
00:17:47.66\00:17:52.27
THE HOT TUB 5 MINUTES AND
JUMP IN THE COLD TUB AND MADE A
00:17:52.27\00:17:56.30
SIGNIFICANT -- THAT'S PROBABLY
ONE OF THE MOST BENEFICIAL AND
00:17:56.30\00:18:00.74
THAT AND SOME OF THE GUY
TERRI THINGS REALLY MADE A BIG
00:18:00.74\00:18:05.51
DIFFERENCE AS FAR AS THE
FOODS THAT CAUSE INFLAMMATION.
00:18:05.51\00:18:09.05
I'M STILL IN PAIN BUT THAT
PART OF IT WE TOOK CARE OF IT.
00:18:09.05\00:18:13.29
AND WORKING WITH DON AND
ST SPIRITUAL PART OF IT TOO.
00:18:13.29\00:18:17.26
WHAT HAPPENS IS, WE
EXAGGERATE THINGS, RIGHT?
00:18:17.26\00:18:21.40
I'M GOING TO HAVE TO
DEAL WITH THAT FOREVER.
00:18:21.40\00:18:23.40
BUT THAT'S NOT TRUE. I
ONLY HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT THE
00:18:23.40\00:18:26.30
REST OF MY LIFE
BUT THAT'S NOT FOREVER.
00:18:26.30\00:18:31.81
SO I CAN HANDLE IT THE END OF
THIS WIFE BECAUSE I KNOW I DON'T
00:18:31.81\00:18:34.61
HAVE TO TAKE IT
WITH ME INTO ETERNITY.
00:18:34.61\00:18:37.45
THAT WAS A BIG CHANGE FOR ME AS
FAR AS IF YOU CAN'T GET RID OF
00:18:37.45\00:18:41.12
IT YOU'LL HAVE TO
LEARN TO JUST EMBRACE IT.
00:18:41.12\00:18:43.65
AND THAT WAS A BIG PART OF IT.
HIS EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE WAS
00:18:43.65\00:19:10.81
GOING UP SIGNIFICANTLY AND
SOCIAL PART WITH SIGNIFICANT
00:19:10.81\00:19:15.55
CHANGES, AND AND HE SAYS, YOU
KNOW, I KNOW OTHERS ARE STAYING.
00:19:15.55\00:19:20.02
IS THERE A POSSIBILITY I
CAN STAY BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS
00:19:20.02\00:19:25.66
HELPING ME AND I THINK I'LL EVEN
GET BETTER IF I STAY LONGER.
00:19:25.66\00:19:33.70
HE STAYED AN EXTRA WEEK.
IT RAINED 15 OF THE 17 DAYS IF
00:19:33.70\00:19:40.24
YOU REMEMBER. EVERY SINGLE DAY.
00:19:40.24\00:19:51.35
MY FATHER PASSED AWAY
THE THIRD DAY OF THE PROGRAM.
00:19:51.35\00:19:54.09
I REMEMBER THAT. THAT WAS TOUGH.
00:19:54.09\00:19:59.26
BUT I WASN'T GOING HOME. I
KNEW IF I LEFT I WOULDN'T COME
00:19:59.26\00:20:08.27
BACK. BUT I'LL
TELL YOU THAT THE STAFF
00:20:08.27\00:20:10.27
WAS AMAZING. I NEVER
EXPERIENCED THAT KIND OF
00:20:10.27\00:20:15.51
A SOLIDARITY. THEY
CIRCLED THE WAGON AND SO I
00:20:15.51\00:20:18.51
WAS ABLE TO STAY SO
THAT. THAT'S BEAUTIFUL.
00:20:18.51\00:20:23.18
STACIE, WHAT ABOUT YOU?
YOU'VE BEEN SITTING THERE SO
00:20:23.18\00:20:27.29
QUIETLY. WAIT YOUR TURN.
00:20:27.29\00:20:28.29
WHAT ABOUT YOU, TELL
US ABOUT YOUR JOURNEY.
00:20:28.29\00:20:31.56
>> MY JOURNEY -- FROM I'D SAY
ABOUT COLLEGE IS WHEN I STARTED
00:20:31.56\00:20:38.33
NOTICING SIGNS OF
ANXIETY, DEPRESSION, MANIFESTING
00:20:38.33\00:20:44.07
THEMSELVES
THROUGH NURSING SCHOOL.
00:20:44.07\00:20:46.71
AND THAT WAS -- WHEN I FIRST
STARTED NOTICING SOME OF THE
00:20:46.71\00:20:54.95
WARNING SIGNS. MY
FRESHMAN YEAR I WAS PART OF A
00:20:54.95\00:21:03.36
GYMNASTICS TEAM
AND I HAD A FALL.
00:21:03.36\00:21:04.93
I WAS ONE OF THE FLIERS AND
I HAD A FALL THAT RESULTED IN A
00:21:04.93\00:21:11.23
PRETTY GOOD BREAK, ANKLE BREAK.
>> BY FLYING, THEIR WAY UP
00:21:11.23\00:21:19.57
THERE. THIS WAS
MORE OF A TOP OF A
00:21:19.57\00:21:22.68
PYRAMID TYPE. WE
DO SOME FLYING TOO.
00:21:22.68\00:21:28.72
THAT BREAK LEFT ME WITH INSTANT
ARTHRITIS AND SO AT THE AGE OF
00:21:28.72\00:21:34.52
19 I HAD NO CARTILAGE LEFT IN MY
ANKLE AND IT WAS -- IT WAS PAIN,
00:21:34.52\00:21:40.96
LOTS OF PAIN. >>
BROKE BOTH THE TIBIA AND THE
00:21:40.96\00:21:44.97
FIBULA. SO THOSE
ARE BOTH OF THOSE LOWER
00:21:44.97\00:21:51.27
LEG BONES THERE.
PART OF THE FOOT TOO.
00:21:51.27\00:22:03.25
>> THAT STARTED -- THAT CHANGES
YOUR LIFESTYLE A BIT WHEN YOU GO
00:22:03.25\00:22:08.96
FROM ACTIVE TO HAVING TO STOP
AND THINK IF I TAKE THIS LONG
00:22:08.96\00:22:13.03
WALK TODAY, I'M GOING TO BE
SORE THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS NOT
00:22:13.03\00:22:18.90
WALKING EFFICIENTLY. AND
I WILL BE IN A LOT OF PAIN.
00:22:18.90\00:22:27.48
I WAS ON PERCOCET JUST AFTER
MY SURGERY AND CAME OFF IT VERY
00:22:27.48\00:22:32.78
QUICKLY WITH MY PARENTS PUSHING
BECAUSE WE ALREADY KIND OF KNEW
00:22:32.78\00:22:41.49
FROM SEEING OTHERS GOING THROUGH
THEY FIND OTHER WAYS TO MANAGE
00:22:41.49\00:22:55.20
PAIN AND THAT'S
DECREASING YOUR LIFESTYLE.
00:22:55.20\00:23:01.88
BASICALLY FROM THERE JUST
IS LIFE AS I KNEW IT BEGAN TO
00:23:01.88\00:23:04.51
CHANGE. BUT I KEPT
GOING WITH -- I WAS
00:23:04.51\00:23:07.02
IN NURSING SCHOOL. I WAS
GOING TO BE A PROFESSIONAL
00:23:07.02\00:23:11.59
AND ON MY FEET A LOT BUT I
FELT THAT'S WHERE THE LORD WAS
00:23:11.59\00:23:15.26
LEADING ME. >> YOU
WERE A CHRISTIAN AT THIS
00:23:15.26\00:23:17.49
TIME? >> YES.
00:23:17.49\00:23:19.06
I WAS RAISED IN ANNDVENTIST
HOME. MY TRUE CONVERSION CAME
00:23:19.06\00:23:28.64
LATER IN LIFE BUT I HAD
THE FOUNDATION FROM CHILDHOOD.
00:23:28.64\00:23:34.84
THROUGH NURSING SCHOOL THERE
IS A LOT OF PRESSURE FOR EXAMS.
00:23:34.84\00:23:39.05
AND I BEGAN -- I THINK IT WAS
MY SENIOR YEAR WAS WHEN PANIC
00:23:39.05\00:23:47.56
ATTACKS BEGAN SETTING IN
THAT'S WHEN I WAS FIRST PUT ON
00:23:47.56\00:23:52.63
MEDICATIONS AND IN A FAIRLY I
GUESS VOLATILE RELATIONSHIP AT
00:23:52.63\00:23:56.60
THE TIME TOO AND NOT A
VERY HEALTHY RELATIONSHIP.
00:23:56.60\00:24:03.07
IT WAS PUT ALG LOT OF
PRESSURE AND A LOT OF STRESS.
00:24:03.07\00:24:11.71
THAT RELATIONSHIP
ACTUALLY BECAME AN ENGAGEMENT.
00:24:11.71\00:24:19.65
IT WAS A MONTH BEFORE THE
WEDDING THAT AN ARGUMENT LEAD TO
00:24:19.65\00:24:22.69
A PHYSICAL ENCOUNTER ON MYSELF.
AND IT TOOK -- I THINK IT TOOK
00:24:22.69\00:24:30.97
THAT TO KIND OF WAKE ME UP
AND HELP ME WALK AWAY FROM THIS
00:24:30.97\00:24:35.54
UNHEALTHY SITUATION I WAS IN.
BUT FROM THIS I KIND OF TOOK THE
00:24:35.54\00:24:38.91
APPROACH OF MOVING ON WITH LIFE
NOT DEALING WITH IT HEALTHFULLY.
00:24:38.91\00:24:45.95
I MOVED OUT TO LOW PHA LINDA AND
OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT FEW
00:24:45.95\00:24:51.35
YEARS I MET MY HUSBAND AND
WE WERE MARRIED I BELIEVE IT WAS
00:24:51.35\00:24:54.76
ALMOST 3 YEARS LATER.
WHEN WE LEFT LOMA LINDA AND
00:24:54.76\00:25:08.50
MOVED INTO OUR NEW HOME, I FELT
LIKE YOU KNOW, LIVING THE DREAM
00:25:08.50\00:25:13.31
I HAD A
WONDERFUL LOVING HUSBAND.
00:25:13.31\00:25:18.35
TWO BEAUTIFUL BOYS, HEALTHY AND
HAPPY AS CAN BE BUT YET THERE IS
00:25:18.35\00:25:22.88
THIS NAGGING UNHAPPINESS AND
THIS -- I COULDN'T REALLY PUT IT
00:25:22.88\00:25:27.89
INTO WORDS AND A FEW
OTHER EVENTS AROSE THAT STARTED
00:25:27.89\00:25:36.36
BRINGING UP FEELINGS THAT I
HAD BEEN SUPPRESSING OF WHEN YOU
00:25:36.36\00:25:42.77
THINK BACK ON A TRAUMATIC EVENT,
THINK OF THINGS THAT YOU COULD
00:25:42.77\00:25:46.78
HAVE DONE DIFFERENT. WHY
DIDN'T I FIGHT FOR MYSELF
00:25:46.78\00:25:48.91
HARDER AND HOW DID I GET LET IT
TO THIS POINT AND HOW DID I NOT
00:25:48.91\00:25:54.52
SEE THE RED FLAGS LEADING UP TO
HERE AND ONE THING COMPOUNDS ON
00:25:54.52\00:25:59.55
ANOTHER AND THE NEXT I'D SAY
COURSE OF A YEAR OR TWO IT KIND
00:25:59.55\00:26:05.06
OF CAME TO A HEAD. AND
I FOUND MYSELF BARELY ABLE
00:26:05.06\00:26:12.13
TO GET OUT OF BED, BARELY
FUNCTIONING AND MY CHILDREN GOT
00:26:12.13\00:26:20.94
TO BE -- THEY GOT THE FIRST HAND
ACCOUNT OF WHAT MOM WAS GOING
00:26:20.94\00:26:26.18
THROUGH. AND ON A
DAY-TO-DAY BASIS IF YOU
00:26:26.18\00:26:29.85
RAN INTO THE STREET THIS IS
WHAT YOU WOULD SEE IS A SMILE.
00:26:29.85\00:26:32.89
AND THAT'S A LOT OF TIMES WHAT
DEPRESSION CAN LOOK LIKE ON SOME
00:26:32.89\00:26:38.26
PEOPLE. YOU
LEARN TO PUT UP A HAPPY
00:26:38.26\00:26:41.40
FACE. TELL MEME
WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR
00:26:41.40\00:26:44.20
AND WHEN THEY DON'T KNOW
WHAT'S GOING ON THE INSIDE.
00:26:44.20\00:26:56.01
I CAN'T PINPOINT AN EXACT MOMENT
WHEN I REALIZED I NEED HELP BUT
00:26:56.01\00:27:02.58
IT WAS OVER A PERIOD OF TIME
FROM WERE DAYS I WOULD WAKE UP,
00:27:02.58\00:27:10.56
DON'T WANT TO GET OUT OF BED
THINKING LORD CAN YOU MAYBE LET
00:27:10.56\00:27:23.74
ME FALL ASLEEP TONIGHT AND MAYBE
NOT TO WAKE UP BECAUSE YOU START
00:27:23.74\00:27:28.48
TO BELIEVE THE LIE THAT YOU'RE
TELLING YOURSELF THAT YOUR
00:27:28.48\00:27:31.18
FAMILY WOULD BE
BETTER OFF WITHOUT YOU.
00:27:31.18\00:27:36.15
I NEVER CAME UP WITH A PLAN
OR PUT ANYTHING INTO ACTION, BUT
00:27:36.15\00:27:41.72
THOSE THOUGHTS BECAME SO
OVERWHELMING AND I REMEMBER
00:27:41.72\00:27:45.83
DRIVING ONE DAY AND LOOKING
IN MY REARVIEW MIRROR AND MY
00:27:45.83\00:27:51.77
CHILDREN AND THERE
ARE THOSE THOUGHTS AGAIN.
00:27:51.77\00:27:54.77
I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE SO QUICKLY
ASK THEY COULD HAVE THE MOTHER
00:27:54.77\00:27:59.44
THEY COULD DESERVE AND YOUR
HUSBAND COULD HAVE THE WIFE HE
00:27:59.44\00:28:02.91
DESERVES. BUT
THEN I SEE THEIR LITTLE
00:28:02.91\00:28:09.38
FACES AND GOD USED THOSE TWEET
SWEET LITTLE CHILDREN TO REMIND
00:28:09.38\00:28:16.79
ME THAT THEY NEED
YOU. YOUR FAMILY NEEDS YOU.
00:28:16.79\00:28:18.66
AND WE HAVE A PURPOSE FOR YOU.
I TALKED WITH MY HUSBAND THAT
00:28:18.66\00:28:28.24
NIGHT. HE HAD NO
IDEA WHERE I WAS AT
00:28:28.24\00:28:30.74
BECAUSE EVEN FROM HIM I WAS
HIDING THINGS SOMETIMES IT'S
00:28:30.74\00:28:39.38
HARDER TO SHARE WITH YOUR SPOUSE
BECAUSE IT'S OUT OF HIS CONTROL
00:28:39.38\00:28:42.28
AND HE CAN'T HEAL
AND TAKE AWAY IT'S HARD.
00:28:42.28\00:28:46.96
BUT THAT'S WHY GOD GAVE US
THAT SPECIAL PERSON IN OUR LIFE.
00:28:46.96\00:28:54.10
AND HE BECAME MY
STRONGEST SUPPORT.
00:28:54.10\00:28:57.73
AND WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT ARE WE
GOING TO DO FROM HERE.  DIDN'T
00:28:57.73\00:29:01.60
WANT TO GO BACK ON MEDICATION.
THAT WAS ONE THING I KNEW.
00:29:01.60\00:29:11.11
IT'S VERY COMMON YOU GO TO THE
DOCTOR AND HE GIVES YOU A PILL
00:29:11.11\00:29:14.62
AND I DIDN'T
WANT TO GET ANY PILL.
00:29:14.62\00:29:18.89
I KNEW ABOUT DR. NEDLEY'S
PROGRAM OF FAMILY MEMBERS WHO
00:29:18.89\00:29:22.06
HAD GONE THROUGH
THE COMMUNITY PROGRAM.
00:29:22.06\00:29:24.16
THEY HADN'T GONE OUT TO
CALIFORNIA THEMSELVES AND JUST
00:29:24.16\00:29:27.93
SEEING WHAT IT
DID IN THEIR LIVES.
00:29:27.93\00:29:31.10
COMING OFF MEDICATIONS
COMPLETELY AND BEING AT A SEVERE
00:29:31.10\00:29:39.01
LEVEL BEYOND WHERE
EVEN THOUGHT MYSELF TO BE.
00:29:39.01\00:29:52.85
SEEING HOW IT CHANGED THEIR
LIVES I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT I
00:29:52.85\00:29:54.86
WANTED TO DO. >> THE
LORD HAD HIS HAND ON YOU
00:29:54.86\00:29:57.59
THE WHOLE TIME. HE HAD
A PLAN FOR YOU TO GO TO
00:29:57.59\00:29:59.73
THIS PROGRAM TO GET HELP.
IT'S JUST SO -- AGAIN, YOU WATCH
00:29:59.73\00:30:05.60
HOW THE DEVIL JUST TRIES TO
TAKE YOU INTO THAT DARK PLACE.
00:30:05.60\00:30:10.21
AND YET, GOD HAS SUCH A
MARVELOUS LIGHT TO BRING YOU
00:30:10.21\00:30:15.14
INTO. AND SO, WAS
IT -- DID YOU HAVE
00:30:15.14\00:30:21.22
FLASHBACKS? WERE YOU
HAVING FLASHBACKS FROM
00:30:21.22\00:30:22.98
THE PREVIOUS
RELATIONSHIP? >> I WAS, YES.
00:30:22.98\00:30:26.42
THERE WERE SOME OTHER INSTANCES
THAT HAPPENED THAT BROUGHT WHAT
00:30:26.42\00:30:30.99
HAPPENED WITH ME BACK TO LIGHT
AND I WAS -- I GUESS IN HEARING
00:30:30.99\00:30:42.90
OTHER EVENTS WHICH TRANSPIRED,
STARTED BRINGING NIGHTMARES THAT
00:30:42.90\00:30:51.95
I USED TO HAVE. IT
WAS ALWAYS THE SAME THING
00:30:51.95\00:30:56.38
OVER AND OVER AND I WOULD HAVE
THAT NIGHTMARE MULTIPLE TIMES A
00:30:56.38\00:31:02.26
WEEK. WAKE UP.
00:31:02.26\00:31:04.06
CRYING OR SCREAMING AND MY
HUSBAND -- I KNOW MORE THAN ONCE
00:31:04.06\00:31:07.86
I WOKE HIM UP AND I WOULD JUST
SAY, SORRY, JUST A BAD DREAM.
00:31:07.86\00:31:12.00
AND GO BACK TO SLEEP.
IT GOT TO WHERE IF HE WAS
00:31:12.00\00:31:16.67
WORKING NIGHT SHIFT AT THE
HOSPITAL THEN I WOULD STAY UP
00:31:16.67\00:31:21.54
ALL NIGHT BECAUSE I'D CREATE
THESE SCENARIOS IN MY HEAD THAT
00:31:21.54\00:31:27.55
WEREN'T REALISTIC. THEY
HAVE NO BASIS OTHER THAN MY
00:31:27.55\00:31:33.82
MIND JUST IMAGING THE
SCENARIOS OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN.
00:31:33.82\00:31:54.41
>> WHAT HAPPENED
WHEN YOU WENT TO.
00:31:54.41\00:32:00.72
>> MANY THING. AS A
MOTHER NOT BEING ABLE TO
00:32:00.72\00:32:30.58
RUN ASK PLAY WITH MY CHILDREN
SIMPLE THINGS THAT IT ROBS OF
00:32:30.58\00:32:37.49
YOU OF. THE DOCTOR
ASKED IF I HAD HEARD
00:32:37.49\00:32:44.06
OF SOMETHING CALLED -- IT
HE'S A FRANKEN SENSE SENSE DER
00:32:44.06\00:33:00.78
RIVATIVE. I PUT ON A
SMILE AND WAS LIKE, OKAY.
00:33:00.78\00:33:03.18
I WAS VERY SKEPTICAL OF
IT. >> SHE COULDN'T EXER TO THE
00:33:03.18\00:33:47.69
LEVEL THAT WAS GOING TO BE
HELPFUL AND I KNEW IT WOULD BE A
00:33:47.69\00:33:50.43
MULTIFAST IT APPROACH THAT WAS
GOING TO PRODUCE THE BENEFIT.
00:33:50.43\00:33:54.46
SO I SAW THAT ANKLE MY HEART
WENT OUT TO HER AND I HEARD
00:33:54.46\00:33:57.93
THERE WAS NO CARTILAGE AS
WELL I THOUGHT, WELL, LET'S SEE.
00:33:57.93\00:34:03.27
SO, I WAS THINKING, OF COURSE
SHE WAS TELLING ME THE THINGS
00:34:03.27\00:34:06.64
SHE HAD TRIED, BUT LORD BROUGHT
THAT TO MIND AND WHAT HAPPENED?
00:34:06.64\00:34:15.62
>> IN THE MORNINGS I WOULD WAKE
UP AND SOME MORNINGS YOU CRAWL
00:34:15.62\00:34:19.59
OUT OF BED. YOU
HAVE TO STAND AND DO ALL
00:34:19.59\00:34:22.02
THESE EXERCISES TO GET MOVING.
AND I BELIEVE IT WAS DAY TWO
00:34:22.02\00:34:28.56
THAT I WOKE UP AND I GOT OUT OF
BED AND WALKED RIGHT ACROSS THE
00:34:28.56\00:34:31.73
ROOM WITHOUT THINKING ABOUT IT.
AND THIS IS AFTER -- WE WERE --
00:34:31.73\00:34:35.70
I WAS PUSHING MYSELF TO WALK TO
UNCOMFORTABLE LEVELS AT FIRST.
00:34:35.70\00:34:42.18
I REALLY WANTED TO GET
EVERYTHING OUT OF THIS PROGRAM.
00:34:42.18\00:34:45.35
SO I FULLY
EXPECTED TO NOT BE WALKING.
00:34:45.35\00:34:48.98
AND I JUST JUMPED OUT OF BED AND
STARTED WALKING ACROSS THE ROOM
00:34:48.98\00:34:52.35
AND THEN IT DAWNED
ON ME, I'M WALKING.
00:34:52.35\00:34:58.16
I DON'T HAVE PAIN. AND
IT JUST GOT BETTER FROM
00:34:58.16\00:35:01.66
THERE. AND THEN I
JUST -- I THINK EVERY
00:35:01.66\00:35:03.40
ONE THOUGHT I WAS REALLY
COMPETITIVE WITH WANTING TO WALK
00:35:03.40\00:35:07.24
AND OUTWALK EVERY ONE
ELSE. I THINK I WAS SECOND
00:35:07.24\00:35:17.31
>> DOES THE PWOZ WAIL I CAN'T
WORK ON THE INFLAMMATION AS WELL
00:35:17.31\00:35:21.32
AS REBUILDING THE CARTILAGE?
>> I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S
00:35:21.32\00:35:24.75
EVIDENCE THAT IT REBUILDS THE
CARTILAGE BUT IT TAKES CARE OF
00:35:24.75\00:35:31.29
THE INFLAMMATION. >>
SHE WENT FROM SOMEONE WHO
00:35:31.29\00:35:59.25
COULDN'T WALK WITHOUT LIMP
AND PAIN, BUT WITH THE DISCHARGE
00:35:59.25\00:36:04.56
RECOMMENDATIONS AND WHAT
WAS HAPPENING, I RECOMMENDED SHE
00:36:04.56\00:36:10.70
CONTINUE TO TRAIN. I DID
MY FIRST HALF MARATHON 13
00:36:10.70\00:36:44.70
WEEKS PREGNANT
TOO. ANOTHER BLESSING.
00:36:44.70\00:36:46.37
>> SHE WENT FROM BEING SO
PAINFUL TO WALK AND BARELY BEING
00:36:46.37\00:36:50.71
ABLE TO WALK TO WALKING A
HALF MARATHON 13 WEEKS PREGNANT.
00:36:50.71\00:36:55.64
>> RUNNING A HALF
MARATHON. >> RUNNING EXCUSE ME.
00:36:55.64\00:37:02.82
>> SO THE PROGRAM REALLY
ACTUALLY JUST TOTALLY TURN
00:37:02.82\00:37:18.40
THINGS AROUND FOR
YOU. BY THE GRACE OF GOD.
00:37:18.40\00:37:21.07
>> JUST -- OUR FAMILY LIFE
SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVED AND NOT
00:37:21.07\00:37:25.77
TO SAY WE DON'T STILL HAVE UPS
AND DOWNS AND ESPECIALLY THROUGH
00:37:25.77\00:37:30.78
THE PREGNANCY AND SINCE HAVING
THE BABY IT'S BEEN TOUGH BECAUSE
00:37:30.78\00:37:34.35
SLEEP IS A BIG PART OF BEING
ABLE TO KEEP ON TRACK AND HAVE
00:37:34.35\00:37:39.79
ENERGY SO IT'S BEEN TAKING WORK
TO GET BACK TO WHERE WE'RE AT.
00:37:39.79\00:37:52.90
THE PTSD I WAS MANIFESTING WOULD
COME EVERY YEAR WHEN I WAS DWELL
00:37:52.90\00:37:57.51
ON THAT DAY. AND
AFTER THE PROGRAM THEY CAME
00:37:57.51\00:38:01.01
AND WENT WITHOUT
ME THINKING ABOUT IT.
00:38:01.01\00:38:03.35
IT WAS JUST MY BEST FRIEND'S
BIRTHDAY AND NOTHING ELSE AND IT
00:38:03.35\00:38:07.32
WASN'T UNTIL WEEKS LATER I
REALIZED, HEY, I DIDN'T EVEN
00:38:07.32\00:38:10.99
THINK ABOUT
THAT. THANK YOU, LORD.
00:38:10.99\00:38:16.12
>> SOUNDS LIKE THE PROGRAM
REALLY GETS TO THE ROOT CAUSE AS
00:38:16.12\00:38:21.00
OPPOSE TO DO
MASKING THE SYMPTOMS.
00:38:21.00\00:38:25.07
>> EXACTLY. >> EXACTLY.
00:38:25.07\00:38:36.88
YOU CAN'T RID OF IT. BUT
IF WE GET TO THE ROOT CAUSES
00:38:36.88\00:38:41.42
AND WE REVERSE THOSE IT
ACTUALLY CAN BE ERADICATED.
00:38:41.42\00:38:48.59
IT DOESN'T MEAN IT DOESN'T COME
BACK IF YOU HAVE THE SAME THINGS
00:38:48.59\00:38:55.66
IN PLACE. YOU TALK
ABOUT THE 20 WEEKS.
00:38:55.66\00:39:19.39
WE GIVE THEM A
SERIES OF RECOMMENDATIONS.
00:39:19.39\00:39:40.78
IT MIGHT BE LIGHT THERAPY.
THERE ARE CERTAIN NUTRITIONAL
00:39:40.78\00:39:50.02
THINGS IN HER CASE THE ON TOP
OF THAT THEN WE TALK ABOUT THE
00:39:50.02\00:40:10.17
COGNITIVE OR THE THOUGHT
ASPECT. THOSE WITH PTSD HAVE THE
00:40:10.17\00:40:22.15
TENDENCY TO
HAVE A MENTAL FILTER.
00:40:22.15\00:40:33.76
THEY ATTEMPTED TO TAKE HER
LIFE. AND SO, AS A SIGNIFICANT
00:40:33.76\00:40:40.17
FORTUNATELY IT WAS
SOMEBODY ELSE CAME IN.
00:40:40.17\00:40:46.81
SHE MIGHT HAVE LOST
HER LIFE IN THE PROCESS.
00:40:46.81\00:41:06.16
IT HAS TO BE INTENTIONAL.
THERE IS READING MATERIAL
00:41:06.16\00:41:21.14
COMPLETED DURING THE 20 WEEKS
AND THEN ALSO THE SPIRITUAL PART
00:41:21.14\00:41:31.79
AND BEING ABLE TO ENHANCE THE
FRONTAL LOBE THROUGH DIFFERENT
00:41:31.79\00:41:37.39
WAYS OF FOCUSSING IN ON ASPECTS
OF THE WORD THAT CAN REALLY HELP
00:41:37.39\00:41:41.00
IN REGARDS TO THAT. OF
COURSE WE HAVE COUNSELORS IN
00:41:41.00\00:41:43.77
EACH ONE OF THOSE AREAS
THAT ARE THERE AT THE PROGRAM.
00:41:43.77\00:41:45.47
WE HAVE A SPIRITUAL PROGRAM
THAT SEES THEM ALL INDIVIDUALLY.
00:41:45.47\00:42:06.76
AND THEN OF COURSE WITH DEALING
WITH PHYSICAL, SO SHE WAS GOING
00:42:06.76\00:42:14.83
THROUGH THAT.
DURING THE 20 WEEKS.
00:42:14.83\00:42:18.73
SOME NEED NEED
MORE OF A SUPPORT.
00:42:18.73\00:42:26.34
THEY MEET WITH A THEY'RE
PIT EVERY WEEK BY SKYPE AND THEY
00:42:26.34\00:42:28.94
CONTINUE ON WITH THE 20 WEEKS.
PAEURPB SO, IT'S COMPREHENSIVE
00:42:28.94\00:42:49.83
APPROACH. IT'S AN
INVOLVED APPROACH BUT IT
00:42:49.83\00:42:51.80
IS WELL WORTH THE EFFORT.
>> LOOKING BACK OVER YOUR
00:42:51.80\00:43:04.68
EXPERIENCES AT THE PROGRAM, WHAT
WOULD BOTH OF YOU SAY HAVE BEEN
00:43:04.68\00:43:08.82
THE MOST VALUABLE
TAKEAWAYS FROM THE PROGRAM?
00:43:08.82\00:43:15.16
FRANK? >> I CAN'T
TAKE A SINGLE PART OF
00:43:15.16\00:43:17.96
IT. I MEAN, IT WORKS TOGETHER.
00:43:17.96\00:43:20.36
IT'S A PACKAGE DEAL. IF I
SPEND A LOT OF TIME REALLY
00:43:20.36\00:43:29.87
WORKING ON MY SPIRITUAL. IF
I FOCUS ON THE MENTAL AND THE
00:43:29.87\00:43:39.38
SPIRITUAL AND DON'T TAKE CARE
OF MY PHYSICAL, IN PROVING MY
00:43:39.38\00:43:55.60
NUTR NUTRITIONA
ALAN TAKE HAD A BIG
00:43:55.60\00:43:57.63
PART TO THINK MORE CLEARLY AND
I THINK THAT'S A BIG PART OF IT.
00:43:57.63\00:44:00.67
MY COGNITION. I'M
GOING THROUGH THE COGNITIVE
00:44:00.67\00:44:04.51
BEHAVIORAL THERAPY WAS IMPORTANT
IN ORDER TO SORT OF DISINFECT
00:44:04.51\00:44:13.28
THE LOGICAL PART PROCESSES THAT
WE FALL INTO BECAUSE WE DON'T
00:44:13.28\00:44:17.85
KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO AND YOU
KNOW, AND WORKING WITH DON ON
00:44:17.85\00:44:23.96
THE SPIRITUAL PART OF IT WAS
HUGELY IMPORTANT BECAUSE FROM
00:44:23.96\00:44:26.66
THAT I WAS ABLE TO GET
JUST ACTUALLY JUST A COUPLE OF
00:44:26.66\00:44:31.77
VERSUS. I MEAN I
READ THE BIBLE A FEW
00:44:31.77\00:44:34.40
TIMES BUT HE CAME UP WITH THESE
VERSUS THAT JUST SOLVE THAT
00:44:34.40\00:44:38.27
WHOLE PROBLEM
FOR ME IN AN INSTANT.
00:44:38.27\00:44:42.41
SO THE BEST PART ABOUT IT,
ACTUALLY IS BEING THERE ON SITE
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BECAUSE IT'S A
BOOTCAMP IS WHAT IT IS.
00:44:48.68\00:44:57.93
THERE'S A BENEFIT IN PARTICULAR
TO BE THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.
00:44:57.93\00:45:13.68
>> THERE IS A SAYING IN REGARDS
TO GOD'S LOVE THAT A LOT OF
00:45:13.68\00:45:16.44
PEOPLE DON'T LOOK AT
IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.
00:45:16.44\00:45:19.18
GO AHEAD, FRANK. >>
MINE IS THAT GOD LOVES ME SO
00:45:19.18\00:45:22.58
MUCH THAT HE ALLOWS ME TO
SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES OF MY
00:45:22.58\00:45:27.26
BEHAVIORS.
BECAUSE IF THERE WERE NO
00:45:27.26\00:45:29.22
CONSEQUENCES I
WOULDN'T HAVE CHANGED.
00:45:29.22\00:45:32.09
PART OF BEING A HUMAN WHEN
SOMETHING HURTS YOU MOVE AWAY
00:45:32.09\00:45:35.73
FROM IT. GOD ALLOWS
THAT PAIN TO COME IN
00:45:35.73\00:45:38.30
BECAUSE HE LOVES ME AND WANTS
ME -- HE CARES MORE ABOUT MY
00:45:38.30\00:45:44.44
SALVATION THAN HE
DOES MY DAY TO DAY.
00:45:44.44\00:45:47.84
MY WIFE WOULD SAY EVERYTHING
HAPPENS FOR A REASON BUT
00:45:47.84\00:45:49.58
SOMETIMES THE REASON IS
THAT I JUST MAKE POOR CHOICES.
00:45:49.58\00:45:55.88
>> GOD LOVES ME SO MUCH
THAT HE ALLOWS ME TO SUFFER THE
00:45:55.88\00:46:00.39
CONSEQUENCES OF MY ACTIONS
THAT BRINGS ME TO CHANGE.
00:46:00.39\00:46:04.76
>> YES. REALLY GOOD POINTS.
00:46:04.76\00:46:06.83
REALLY GOOD POINT.
WHAT ABOUT YOU, STACIE?
00:46:06.83\00:46:10.70
>> FOR ME, I'D SAY ONE OF THE
MOST BENEFICIAL THINGS THAT I
00:46:10.70\00:46:17.94
TOOK AWAY WAS
REFRAMING THOUGHTS.
00:46:17.94\00:46:20.11
IT'S EASY TO FOCUS THE BAD
THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN
00:46:20.11\00:46:24.81
LIFE, THE HARDSHIPS THAT YOU ARE
GIVEN AND IF YOU'RE FOCUSSING ON
00:46:24.81\00:46:28.62
THE NEGATIVE ASPECT OF IT
THEN YOU'RE MISSING ALL OF THE
00:46:28.62\00:46:32.95
POSITIVE THAT'S
BEHIND THAT AS WELL.
00:46:32.95\00:46:37.53
IT'S -- YOU CAN MAKE EXCUSES FOR
ONLY SO LONG AND YOU CAN SAY --
00:46:37.53\00:46:42.86
IT'S TOUGH TO HAVE
AN UNFORTUNATE PAST.
00:46:42.86\00:46:46.27
EVERYBODY HAS
SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS.
00:46:46.27\00:46:48.14
BUT YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE CHOICE
THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO LET
00:46:48.14\00:46:51.71
KEEP AFFECTING YOUR
FUTURE FROM THERE FORWARD.
00:46:51.71\00:46:56.11
THEY HELPED ME TO SEE THAT
AND TO REFRAME THOSE NEGATIVE
00:46:56.11\00:47:00.52
THOUGHTS INTO POSITIVES AND BE
ABLE TO SEE, YES, THIS HAPPENED,
00:47:00.52\00:47:05.65
BUT NOW LOOK AT WHAT ALL
CAME ABOUT BECAUSE OF IT.
00:47:05.65\00:47:09.89
AND GOING FORWARD IT EJUST
A COMPLETE NEW TAKE ON LIFE.
00:47:09.89\00:47:18.07
>> THAT SOUNDS LIKE THAT EVEN IF
I REMEMBER ON SOCIAL MEDIA AS WE
00:47:18.07\00:47:21.64
WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER, WITH
BEING -- I SAW A MEME OR JUST
00:47:21.64\00:47:28.84
SOME KIND OF QUOTE AND IT SAID,
SOMETHING ABOUT WE GOT TO GET
00:47:28.84\00:47:35.02
AWAY FROM THE WHAT IFS
AND GRAB HOLD OF THE EVEN IFS.
00:47:35.02\00:47:40.29
SO EVEN IF THIS HAPPENS
I'M TRUSTING IN THE LORD.
00:47:40.29\00:47:42.89
EVEN IF THIS HAPPENS,
I'M GOING TO SERVE THE LORD.
00:47:42.89\00:47:45.13
EVEN IF THIS HAPPENS I'M
GOING TO PRAISE THE LORD.
00:47:45.13\00:47:47.60
AND GET AWAY FROM THE WHAT
IF DOESN'T WORK OUT AND WHAT IF,
00:47:47.60\00:47:52.00
WHAT IF, WHAT IF, AND EVEN
IF. JUST LIKE YOU JUST SAID IT'S
00:47:52.00\00:47:59.71
THAT EVEN IF. >> THAT'S GOOD.
00:47:59.71\00:48:03.88
>> STACIE ALSO EMBODIES ONE OF
MY FAVORITE QUOTES AND IT'S KIND
00:48:03.88\00:48:07.82
OF ALSO THE BASIS OF THE PROGRAM
BECAUSE THESE ARE KIND OF WHAT
00:48:07.82\00:48:12.52
YOU'VE SEEN TODAY ARE
REALLY KIND OF MIRACLE STORIES.
00:48:12.52\00:48:17.16
EVERY PROGRAM SOMETIMES I'LL
SEE MAGAZINES THAT TALK ABOUT A
00:48:17.16\00:48:21.73
MIRACLE PROGRAM.
EVERY PROGRAM WE GET TO SEE
00:48:21.73\00:48:24.70
MIRACLE AFTER MIRACLE HAPPENING.
IN REGARDS TO HER ANKLE, I MUST
00:48:24.70\00:48:29.40
ADMIT I DIDN'T
KNOW HOW MUCH THE P
00:48:29.40\00:48:38.98
BOSS WAIL I CAN'T WOULD HELP.
THE QUOTE I LIKE, NATURAL MEANS
00:48:38.98\00:48:48.22
USED IN ACCORDANCE WITH GOD'S
WILL BRING ABOUT SUPERNATURAL
00:48:48.22\00:48:51.13
RESULTS. I THINK THERE WAS THE
00:48:51.13\00:49:12.65
SUPERNATURAL. >> MY
FAVORITE QUOTE IS JET J
00:49:12.65\00:49:19.29
GENETICS LOADS THE GUN AND
LIFESTYLE PULLS THE TRIGGER.
00:49:19.29\00:49:45.95
>> IS THIS WHAT YOU DO.
THERE ARE OTHER ASPECTS WE HAD
00:49:45.95\00:49:51.62
PEOPLE COME FOR GASTROENTEROLOGY
ISSUES AND CHRONIC PAIN IN THEIR
00:49:51.62\00:49:55.46
BELLY EVERY TIME THEY EAT OR
THEY CAN'T SEEM TO GAIN WEIGHT
00:49:55.46\00:49:58.23
OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
THERE'S USUALLY A MENTAL HEALTH
00:49:58.23\00:50:02.56
COMPONENT INVOLVED BUT IT MIGHT
BE MORE PHYSICAL THAN A MENTAL
00:50:02.56\00:51:05.93
ISSUE. QUO LOG
THIS IS ONE ENTITY AND
00:51:05.93\00:51:08.83
IF WE REALLY HELP THE PHYSICAL
WE CAN HELP THE BRAIN AS WELL.
00:51:08.83\00:51:17.37
IT'S REWARDING WORK. A
LOT OF ENJOYABLE THINGS IN
00:51:17.37\00:51:21.91
LIFE THAT I DO. BUT I
ALWAYS MENTION THE MOST
00:51:21.91\00:51:24.75
ENJOYABLE THING THAT I
DO. AT THE HIGHEST LEVELS OF
00:51:24.75\00:51:38.99
EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE WHERE
THEY'RE ABLE TO MANAGE THEIR
00:51:38.99\00:51:41.23
RELATIONSHIPS AND THEY'RE
ABLE TO HAVE VERY POSITIVE
00:51:41.23\00:51:44.47
RELATIONSHIPS AND THEY'LL ABLE
TO MANAGE THEIR EMOTIONS EVEN ON
00:51:44.47\00:51:47.50
DOWN DAYS AND WHEN BAD THINGS
HAPPEN TO THEM AND HAVE THE
00:51:47.50\00:51:50.37
PROPER MOTIVATION TO ACHIEVE
HIGH GOALS AND TO BEEN FULFILLED
00:51:50.37\00:51:54.18
IN LIFE. AND IT IS
EXCITING TO SEE PEOPLE
00:51:54.18\00:51:59.01
LIKE THE 3 THAT WE HAD HERE
TODAY DOING EXACTLY THOSE TYPES
00:51:59.01\00:52:07.36
OF THINGS. IS IT
DIDN'T SEEM TO BE POSSIBLE
00:52:07.36\00:52:09.19
EARLIER IN THE LIFE. >>
SOUNDS LIKE YOU FOUND YOUR
00:52:09.19\00:52:12.59
CALLING. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
00:52:12.59\00:52:16.00
>> ABSOLUTELY. >>
BEFORE WE GO, KIND OF IF YOU
00:52:16.00\00:52:18.77
WOULD WALK US THROUGH
A DAY AT THE NEDLEY HOME.
00:52:18.77\00:52:24.21
>> THEY MIGHT BE
BETTER AT DOING THAT.
00:52:24.21\00:52:26.07
>> WE HAVE A FEW MINUTES LEFT.
TELL US WHAT'S A TYPICAL DAY
00:52:26.07\00:52:31.95
LIKE? >> LET'S SEE.
00:52:31.95\00:52:34.28
THIS IS 0530 ON YOUR DOOR.
>> THEY DON'T WALK AWAY UNTIL
00:52:34.28\00:52:39.99
THEY SEE YOUR FACE. >>
SO THERE'S NO OKAY, I'M
00:52:39.99\00:52:43.16
GETTING UP. NONE OF THAT.
00:52:43.16\00:52:47.66
>> IF YOU DON'T GET THEM UP AND
YOU JUST LET THEM GET UP WHEN
00:52:47.66\00:52:50.47
THEY WANT TO GET UP THEY'RE NOT
GOING TO BE ABLE TO ALTER THEIR
00:52:50.47\00:52:57.24
BRAIN CHEMISTRY
IN A POSITIVE WAY.
00:52:57.24\00:52:59.01
>> SO GETTING UP EARLY --
>> EARLY TO BED AND EARLY TO
00:52:59.01\00:53:01.71
RISE IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
HELPS US WITH NEGATIVE THOUGHTS.
00:53:01.71\00:53:05.48
WE CHANGE THEM FROM LATE NIGHT
PEOPLE TO EARLY MORNING PEOPLE
00:53:05.48\00:53:09.22
NOT JUST BY KNOCKING ON THEIR
DOOR BUT RIGHT AFTER WE KNOCK ON
00:53:09.22\00:53:12.39
THE DOOR WHAT IS NEXT >>
30 MINUTES OF LIGHT THERAPY.
00:53:12.39\00:53:17.03
>> W DO LIGHT THERAPY
THAT SIMULATES THE BLUE SKY.
00:53:17.03\00:53:21.96
AFTER 7 DAYS THE
BODY CLOCK IS RESET.
00:53:21.96\00:53:24.07
NOW THEY'RE WAKING UP WITH
ENERGY IN THE MORNING AND IT'S
00:53:24.07\00:53:27.04
NOT DREDGERY AND THEY'RE READY
TO GO TO C SLEEP /* EARLY AT
00:53:27.04\00:53:34.48
NIGHT AND THEY HAVE
MUCH MORE EFFICIENT SLEEP.
00:53:34.48\00:53:36.38
>> I WAS ALWAYS A MORNING PERSON
BUT NOT THAT KIND OF MORNING.
00:53:36.38\00:53:39.95
>> NOT 5:30. >>
WELL, YEAH NOT THAT WAY.
00:53:39.95\00:53:47.12
I WOULD SAY THAT -- THERE'S NOT
A LOT OF FREE TIME BETWEEN 0530
00:53:47.12\00:53:56.36
AND 9:30 AT NIGHT.
AND THAT'S A GOOD THING.
00:53:56.36\00:53:59.63
I DIDN'T LIKE IT AT FIRST.
BECAUSE I WAS ONE OF THE OLDEST
00:53:59.63\00:54:05.04
GUYS THERE. I HAD
DIFFERENT HABITS HANDSOME
00:54:05.04\00:54:09.11
OF THE KIDS DID. >>
IT'S A STRUCTURED DAY.
00:54:09.11\00:54:17.32
>> YES. >> IT WAS TUBS.
00:54:17.32\00:54:19.75
>> EXERCISE AND BREAKFAST.
>> THE EXERCISE PRETTY
00:54:19.75\00:54:28.00
VIGOROUSLY BEFORE BREAKFAST.
>> AND THEN BREAKFAST.
00:54:28.00\00:54:30.07
AND IT'S A GOOD
NUTRITIOUS BREAKFAST.
00:54:30.07\00:54:37.11
SO THEY'RE
GETTING ALL THE OF THOS
00:54:37.11\00:54:43.68
NUTRIENTS THAT MAKE THEM GOOD
BRAIN KHEPBLSTRY AND OMEGA 3.
00:54:43.68\00:54:45.38
AND WE'RE LOADING THE BRAIN
AND HELPING IT TO BECOME MORE
00:54:45.38\00:54:49.45
RESILIENT THROUGH
NUTRITIONAL ASPECT.
00:54:49.45\00:54:51.09
>> GIVING IT WHAT IT NEEDS
IN ORDER TO WORK OPTIMALLY.
00:54:51.09\00:54:55.49
AND AND THEN WE HAVE OUR FIRST
MORNING SESSION AFTER THAT.
00:54:55.49\00:54:59.16
WHICH IS ACTUALLY MORE ON THE
REFLECTIVE MEDITATIVE SPIRITUAL
00:54:59.16\00:55:04.00
SIDE. AND THEN THE DAY IS PRETTY
00:55:04.00\00:55:05.70
DIFFERENT FROM ONE
PATIENT TO ANOTHER.
00:55:05.70\00:55:08.54
BUT THERE'S AN APPOINTMENTS
AND EXERCISE AND THERE'S HYDRO
00:55:08.54\00:55:13.07
THERAPY. HYDRO
THERAPY SESSIONS ARE
00:55:13.07\00:55:14.34
NORMALLY A
COUPLEFUL TIMES A DAY.
00:55:14.34\00:55:17.98
AND THEN THERE'S GROUP SESSIONS
AND THERE'S GROUP COACHING
00:55:17.98\00:55:24.22
SESSIONS. AND FRANK
EVEN DID WELL WITH THE
00:55:24.22\00:55:27.29
GROUP SESSIONS. [LAUGHTER]
00:55:27.29\00:55:30.56
>> IF YOU THOUGHT
SO, I DID A GOOD JOB.
00:55:30.56\00:55:36.06
>> SECOND WEEK, HE WENT TO A
HOMELESS SHELTER AND SHARED HIS
00:55:36.06\00:55:41.24
TESTIMONY. THIS
IS SOMETHING THAT HE
00:55:41.24\00:55:42.70
DOESN'T LIKE TO DO GETTING
OUT IN PUBLIC AND THINGS.
00:55:42.70\00:55:44.71
BUT I REALIZED HE WAS TO THE
POINT WHERE WE COULD DO THIS.
00:55:44.71\00:55:48.34
I DIDN'T GIVE HIM
MUCH ADVANCED NOTICE.
00:55:48.34\00:55:51.65
>> YOU TOLD ME -- I THINK
YOU TOLD ME WE LEFT AT 11:30.
00:55:51.65\00:55:57.65
>> AND NOW YOU'RE ON
A TELEVISION PROGRAM.
00:55:57.65\00:56:06.49
>> THINGS HAVEN'T CHANGED.
>> WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR
00:56:06.49\00:56:11.97
BEING WITH US. THIS
TIME WENT BY REALLY FAST.
00:56:11.97\00:56:14.70
WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR
TRANSPARENCY AND FOR SHARING.
00:56:14.70\00:56:19.44
FOR SHARING YOUR JOURNEY WITH
US AND WE THANK YOU, DR. NEDLEY,
00:56:19.44\00:56:23.28
FOR ALL THAT YOU'RE DOING
ON BEHALF OF FOLKS AROUND THE
00:56:23.28\00:56:27.25
WORLD. WE REALLY
APPRECIATE WHAT YOU
00:56:27.25\00:56:28.92
ARE DOING. >> TO
GOD BE THE GLORY.
00:56:28.92\00:56:31.35
>> AMEN. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
00:56:31.35\00:56:34.79
AND GIVE US YOUR WEBSITE.
>> DEPRESSION THE WAY OUT.COM.
00:56:34.79\00:56:41.76
>> THANK YOU SO
MUCH. GOD BLESS YOU.
00:56:41.76\00:56:43.40
THANK YOU JASON. BY
WAIT I HAVE TO MAKE SURE I
00:56:43.40\00:56:46.60
THANK MY COHOST. GOD BLESS YOU.
00:56:46.60\00:57:02.45