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Series Code: TDYL
Program Code: TDYL190032A
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01:09 HELLO AND WELCOME TO 3ABN TODAY. LIVE. 01:12 WE ARE SO HAPPY TO BE WITH YOU THIS EVENING. 01:16 I HAVE MY COHOST, MY SON. >> GOOD BE TO HERE WITH YOU. 01:22 >> GENTLEMAN I SON IS THE GENERAL MANAGER OF 3ABN'S DARE 01:27 TO DREAM NETWORK AND DOING AN OUT STANDING JOB. 01:29 PRAISE THE LORD. >> WE OFTEN SAY THE SAME 01:36 THINGS -- >> AT THE SAME TIME WITH THE 01:37 SAME TONE IT'S LITTLE SCARY. WE ARE SO SCARY YOU HAVE TAKEN 01:41 THE TIME OUT TO JOIN US THIS EVENING BECAUSE WE HAVE A 01:45 PROGRAM THAT IS GOING TO BE SO HELPFUL TO YOU, SO ENLIGHTNING 01:50 AND TO INFORMATIVE, AND JUST A BLESSING. 01:52 SO, ARE YOU EXCITED ABOUT THIS? >> I'M EXCITED I CAN'T WAIT TO 01:57 HEAR ALL THESE WONDERFUL TESTIMONIES 01:58 >> ME TOO. AND SO BEFORE WE INTRODUCE OUR 02:02 GUESTS LET'S GO TO THE MUSIC FOR THE EVENING AND THEN WE'LL 02:05 INTRODUCE THE GUESTS. WE'RE GOING TO KEEP YOU ON PINS 02:08 AND NEEDLES FOR A FEW MINUTES. OUR MUSIC IS COMING FROM MESSAGE 02:12 OF MERCY. AND IT'S WHISPERS TO YOUR HEART. 02:21 ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ 03:06 ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ 04:07 ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ 06:01 ♪ ♪ >> HOW LOVELY. 07:01 THAT WHAT LOVELY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. 07:04 WE REALLY APPRECIATE MESSAGE OF MERCY, THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH 07:08 US. ALL RIGHT. 07:11 JAY? WE HAVE SPECIAL GUESTS WITH US 07:13 THIS EVENING. >> WE DO. 07:15 WE DO. >> DR. KNEEL NEDLEY IS WITH US 07:20 AND I'VE TOLD DR. NEDLEY THAT HE IS ONE OF MY LIFESTYLE MEDICINE 07:27 HEROS. YEARS AGO I BOUGHT PROOF 07:30 POSITIVE, AND IT IS JUST AN OUTSTANDING BOOK. 07:35 SO, WELCOME DR. NEDLEY. >> THANK YOU. 07:37 >> WE'RE SO GLAD -- WITH YOU WE HAVE KELY GREEN. 07:41 AND KELY IS GOING TO SHARE HER TESTIMONY AND WE HAVE SOME OTHER 07:46 GUESTS AS WELL THAT ARE GOING TO BE ON IN THE LATTER PART OF THE 07:50 PROGRAM. SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO WANT TO 07:51 MISS ANY OF THIS PROGRAM TONIGHT. 07:54 SO DR. NEDLEY TELL US WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN DOING RECENTLY. 08:00 WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN -- WHAT IS THIS PROGRAM ABOUT? 08:03 >> WELL, REALLY THE PROGRAM IS ABOUT HEALTH OF OUR BRAIN. 08:09 AND WE DO CONDUCT DEPRESSION AND ANXIETY RECOVERY PROGRAMS AND 08:14 OPTIMIZE YOUR BRAIN PROGRAMS. AND ENHANCING IQ AND ALSO EQ 08:20 EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE BUT MOSTLY KNOWN AT LEAST OVER THE 08:24 LAST 15 YEARS IN OUR EMPHASIS OUR MENTAL HEALTH, ANXIETY 08:30 DISORDERS, DEPRESSION, ALL FORMS OF ANXIETY AND DEPRESSION, AS 08:35 WELL AS THINGS THAT ARE RELATED TO THAT, LIKE OBSESSIVE COME 08:43 PU PULL SHIV DISORDER OR PHOBIAS OR 08:45 PANIC DISORDER OR THOSE SORTS OF THINGS AND BIPOLAR DEPRESSION AS 08:49 WELL. SO WE HAVE OUTPAEURBGT PROGRAMS 08:53 AND ALSO RESIDENTIAL PROGRAMS WHERE WE 10:17 ANXIETY. WHEN I WAS GOING TO COLLEGE IT 10:20 WAS 5%. SO IT IS MAJORITY OF THEM ARE 10:25 HAVING SIGNIFICANT MENTAL HEALTH CHALLENGES. 10:27 >> WHAT WOULD YOU SAY THE CAUSE OF THE INCREASE? 10:30 >> WELL, THE CAUSE IS MULTIPLE CAUSES, BUT ONE OF THE BIG 10:36 CAUSES IS ACTUALLY THE ADDICTIONS TO SCREEN AND I 10:42 PHONES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 10:44 PEOPLE ARE NOT RELATING TO SOCIETY SO MUCH AND REGULAR 10:48 SOCIAL INTERACTIONS LIKE WE'RE HAVING HERE. THEY ARE DOING IT 10:54 OFF OF A SCREEN WHICH IS KIND OF A FALSE SOCIAL EXPERIENCE. 11:01 IT'S NOT A REAL SOCIAL EXPERIENCE AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO 11:05 DRIVEN TO DISTRACTION WITH THESE DEVICES. 11:06 SO THEY GET ON THEIR DEVICE TO DO SOMETHING USEFUL BUT WITHIN 5 11:09 MINUTES THEY'RE NO LONGER DOING ANYTHING USEFUL. 11:13 THEY GOT A PUSH NOTIFICATION AND THEY GOT A SNAPCHAT. 11:16 THEY GOT A NEWS NOTIFICATION. AND THEY JUST GO OFF AND OF 11:21 COURSE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN CHARGE OF THE INTERNET AND THE 11:27 ONES WHO ARE REALLY TRYING TO CAPITALIZE ON THIS, TRY TO FIND 11:31 OUT WHAT IT IS THAT ALL OF US LIKE, AND SO WE'RE IN THERE 11:36 TRYING TO DO SOMETHING USEFUL AND THEN THERE'S THIS LITTLE 11:40 NOTIFICATION ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE INTERESTED IN THAT 11:42 ALL OF A SUDDEN PASSES THE SCREEN AND THEN OUR MIND IS AWAY 11:47 FROM AN AREA. AND THE AREA OF OUR BRAIN THAT 11:50 REQUIRES FOCUS ATTENTION IS IDENTICAL TO THE AREA OF OUR 11:55 BRAIN THAT MANAGES DISTRESSING EMOTION. 12:01 IF WE CAN'T FOCUS CAN HE CAN'T MANAGE OUR EMOTIONS. 12:04 THIS AREA OF THE BRAIN IS ACTUALLY SHRINKING IN PEOPLE 12:07 BECAUSE THEY'RE CONSTANTLY SHIFTING THEIR ATTENTION AND 12:10 THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO ACTUALLY FOCUS ON SOMETHING FOR MOON 10 12:15 MINUTES >> AN EXCESS LEVEL OF STIMULI. 12:18 >> EXACTLY, YES. >> THAT'S FASCINATING TO ME ON 12:23 SO MANY DIFFERENT LEVELS BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL, YOU HAVE THE 12:28 SCREEN ADDICTION WHERE YOU KNOW YOUNG PEOPLE ARE JUST ALWAYS ON 12:31 THEIR SCREENS. AND NOT JUST YOUNG PEOPLE. 12:37 SOMETIMES MY HUSBAND WILL SAY TO ME, DID YOU GET DISTRACTED 12:40 BECAUSE I'LL START OUT DOING ONE THING AND THEN I'LL GET 12:43 DISTRACTED TO DO ANOTHER. SO I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING 12:46 ABOUT. BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THAT IT IS A 12:50 CAUSE OF MENTAL ILLNESS. >> YES. 12:52 >> THIS IS REALLY -- MAYBE THAT'S WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME. 12:55 NO, I'M JUST TEASING. >> WHEN STEVE JOBS CAME OUT WITH 12:59 THE DEVICE HE LIMITED HIS OWN KIDS AND THEIR ACCESS TO THEM. 13:04 HE RECOGNIZED THERE COULD BE COMPLICATIONS. 13:06 YOU KNOW, WE ONLY LOOKED AT THE BENEFITS. 13:09 WE DIDN'T LOOK AT THE RISKS. AND YOU KNOW, IMAGINE A DRUG 13:12 COMPANY COMING OUT WITH A DRUG THAT ONLY LOOKED AT THE BENEFITS 13:15 BUT NOT THE RISKS? WE WOULD TALK ABOUT HOW GREEDTY 13:20 THEY ARE AND UNETHICAL BUT THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE 13:25 DEVICES. WE WERE SO GULLIBLE TO SAY THAT 13:28 EVERY CHILD SHOULD HAVE ONE OF THESE. 13:31 THERE SHOULD BE NO SCHOOL LEFT BEHIND AND WE THOUGHT WE WERE 13:33 GOING TO ENTER INTO A WHOLE NEW SPHERE OF POSITIVE EDUCATION. 13:39 BUT IT TURNS OUT THE OPPOSITE HAS OCCURRED. 13:42 THE WAY OUR DEVICES ARE NORMALLY UTILIZED IS ACTUALLY IMPAIRING 13:47 OUR BRAINS. AND ACTUALLY IMPAIRING OUR 13:52 ABILITY TO MANAGE OUR EMOTIONS OR REMEMBER THINGS. 13:56 WE'RE SEEING MEMORIES AT AN ALL TIME LOW. 13:59 >> DIGITAL DEMEID DEMENTIA. DIAGNOSED IN PEOPLE IN THEIR 14:11 20'S AND 30'S. THEY JUST CAN'T REMEMBER THINGS. 14:13 >> I HAD NO IDEA IT'S SO UBIQUITOUS AND EFFECTING OUR 14:19 YOUNG PEOPLE AT THIS HUGE RATE. I'M BACK ON THE 60%. 14:25 THAT'S JUST APPALLING TO ME. >> IT REALLY MAKES SENSE WHEN 14:29 YOU THINK ABOUT IT. BECAUSE TECHNOLOGY YOU THINK 14:33 IT'S GOING TO ENHANCE THINGS BUT IT REALLY CRIPPLES YOU IN THE 14:37 SENSE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO REMEMBER ANYBODY'S NUMBER, THEIR 14:40 PHONE NUMBER OR ANYTHING. YOU CAN ASK THESE SMART DEVICES, 14:45 JUST TALK TO IT, AND IT WILL PULL UP WHATEVER YOU NEED. 14:49 SO THAT'S INTERESTING. >> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 14:55 THIS IS ONE OF THE OBVIOUS REASONS. 14:57 THE IPHONE CAME OUT IN 2007, SO IN THE LAST 12 YEARS WE'VE SEEN 15:03 THIS EXPONENTIAL GROWTH IN MENTAL ILLNESS AND ALL TIME LOWS 15:06 IN EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE. IT'S A MOST GULLIBLE GENERATION 15:10 AS WELL. THEY DON'T HAVE FACTS STOCKED IN 15:14 THEIR HEAD. WHEN SOMEONE COMES UP WITH 15:18 SOMETHING WE RECOGNIZE THAT IF THIS TRUE AND IF THAT'S TRUE 15:22 THEN THIS CANNOT BE TRUE. BUT WITH THIS GENERATION SINCE 15:26 THEY DON'T HAVE ANY REAL TRUTHS THAT ARE SOLIDIFIED IN THEIR 15:32 BRAIN, WHEN SOMEONE COMES UP WITH SOMETHING THAT'S PRETTY FAR 15:35 OUT THERE AND IT SEEMS ATTRACTIVE, THEY'LL ACTUALLY 15:39 START GOING THAT DIRECTION AND IT'S KIND OF ALMOST LUDICROUS 15:45 FOR A PREVIOUS GENERATION TO GO THAT WAY. 15:49 THAT IS WHY THE WHOLE GULL ABILITY CRISIS IN FAKE NEWS HAS 15:54 BECOME A BIG THING. BEFORE THE WORLD WAR II 15:57 GENERATION NEVER WOULD HAVE -- FAKE NEWS WOULD HAVE GONE 16:01 NOWHERE WITH THEM BECAUSE THEY HAD FACTS STOCKED IN THEIR HEAD 16:05 AND RECOGNIZED WHAT WAS TRUE AND WHAT WASN'T MUCH MORE READILY. 16:09 BUT THIS PRESENT GENERATION ALSO NOT BEING VERY SOCIAL BECAUSE 16:14 THEY TEND TO UTILIZE THEIR DEVICES IN ISOLATION, THEY ARE 16:20 MORE GULLIBLE AND THEY'RE ALSO MUCH MORE ANXIOUS WHEN IT COMES 16:25 TO REAL LIFE SOCIAL INTERACTIONS BECAUSE THAT'S TOO MUCH FOR 16:28 THEM. THERE IS A LOT GOING ON THAT 16:30 GOES ON. THERE IS FACIAL ACCOUNTING AND 16:34 ALL DIFFERENT ASPECTS AND THEY GET FEARFUL OF THAT. 16:39 THEY DON'T REALLY LIKE TO GO OUT IN PUBLIC AS MUCH AND ISOLATION 16:44 WILL LEAD TO SIGNIFICANT SADNESS. 16:49 THE PUNISHMENT THAT THE MOST SEVERE PUNISHMENT WE CAN GIVE A 16:53 PRISONER IS SOLITARY CONFINEMENT. 16:55 ANY OF OUR KIDS TODAY ARE COLORADO T -- SOLITARILY CONFINED 17:04 TO 4 WALLS WITH THEIR TWICE IT HAS THE SIMILAR EFFECTS THAT 17:12 REGULAR SOLITARY CONE FINEMENT IS BECAUSE THIS IS NOT A 17:15 REASONABLE PERSON. BUT THEY TREAT IT IN A MUCH MORE 17:19 TREASURABLE MANNER THAN THEY D THEIR BROTHER OR SISTER OR 17:23 FATHER OR MOTHER. IF THE BROTHER OR SISTER LEAVES 17:26 NO BIG DEAL. BUT YOU TAKE MY DEVICE, WHOA. 17:29 >> THERE IS MAJOR SEPARATION ANXIETY FOR SURE. 17:32 >> I THINK YOU'RE DEALING WITH THE FALSE SENSE OF REALITY. 17:35 BEAU WHEN YOU GO TO INSTAGRAM AND FACEBOOK AND SOME OF THESE 17:39 OTHER SOCIAL MEDIA SITES PEOPLE ARE PAINTING THE BEST PICTURE OF 17:42 THEMSELVES AND SHOWING ALL THESE THINGS THEY DON'T SHOW YOU THEIR 17:47 STRUGGLES AND THEY DON'T SHOW YOU DEPRESSION AND THOSE THINGS 17:49 THAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH. >> IT'S A VERY FALSE WORLD. 17:52 AND WE'RE ONLY SEEING ONE LITTLE GLIMPSE AND ASPECT. 17:57 THE BIBLE SAYS COMPARE AMONG OURSELVES. 18:01 AND THAT'S WHAT SOCIAL MEDIA DOES. 18:02 WE'RE ATTRACTED TO IT BECAUSE WE CAN CONNECT. 18:04 BUT IT TURNS OUT AFTER WE CONNECT, WE END UP COMPARING 18:08 MUCH MORE THAN WE'RE CONNECTING. WE'RE COMPARING OURSELVES AMONG 18:15 OURSELVES. I CAN TELL YOU MOST OF SOCIETY 18:18 TODAY THAT REVERES HOLLYWOOD STARS OR REVERES WHOEVER THEY'RE 18:22 REVERING AND THINKING THEY'RE GREAT PEOPLE, IF THEY ACTUALLY 18:26 SAW WHAT THEIR DAILY LIVES WOULD BE THEY WOULDN'T BE A BIT 18:30 ENVIOUS. >> THAT IS TRUE. 18:32 >> BECAUSE THEY'RE PROJECTING THIS FALSEHOOD. 18:34 >> THAT IS VERY TRUE. >> IN REGARDS TO THEM. 18:37 THEY THINK, BOY, WHY ISN'T MY LIFE LIKE THIS AND WHY AM I NOT 18:41 DOING THIS? IT'S KIND OF LIKE, YOU'RE ONLY 18:43 SEEING LESS THAN 1% OF THAT PERSON'S LIFE. 18:47 >> ABSOLUTELY. >> AND IF THEY COULD SEE A 18:50 TYPICAL CHRISTIAN'S LIFE WHO IS IN THE LORD, THEY WOULD GET SO 18:53 MUCH MORE ATTRACTED TO THAT. >> YES. 18:56 >> BUT THE DEVIL DOESN'T WANT THEM TO SEE THAT. 19:00 HE JUST WANTS THEM TO SEE THAT 1% OF SOMEONE WHO WILL SUCK THEM 19:04 INTO SOMETHING THAT'S A DECEPTION AND WIND UP RUINING 19:09 THEM. >> YES, YES FOR SURE. 19:11 AMAZING. KELY, YOU JUST HAVE BEEN SITTING 19:16 HERE. YOU HAVE A VERY FASCINATING STORY. 19:20 DR. NEDLEY, WOULD YOU GIVE US SOME BACKGROUND. 19:25 >> YOU TALKED ABOUT REASONS FOR IN CREASED MENTAL ILLNESS BUT 19:30 NOT JUST DEVICES BUT THE USE OF SUBSTANCES HAS INCREASED. 19:35 IN THE LAST THREE YEARS LONGEVITY IS A REMARKABLY 19:40 DECREASING IN THE DECREASING IN THE UNITED STATES. 19:42 THIS IS FIRST TIME SINCE WORLD WAR I WHEN THE FLU EPIDEMIC AND 19:46 A WORLD WAR WAS GOING ON THAT LONGEVITY HAS DECREASED. 19:50 SO THAT'S BACK ALL THE WAY FROM 1916. 19:55 AND THIS NEXT YEAR THEY THINK IT'S GOING TO GO DOWN SOME MORE. 19:58 WHY IS IT GOING DOWN? IT'S NOT BECAUSE CANCER IS 20:01 INCREASING AND HEART DECEASE. THOSE ARE THINGS WERE ON THE 20:05 RIDES BEFORE BUT ACTUALLY DUE TO WHAT'S CALLED DEATHS OF DESPAIR. 20:11 WE ARE SEEING A MARKED INCREASE IN ALCOHOL-RELATED DEATHS. 20:16 A MARKED INCREASE IN OPIOID-RELATED DEATHS AND DRUG 20:22 OVERDOSES AND A MARK INCREASE IN SUICIDE. 20:26 SUICIDE HAS ACTUALLY BEEN INCREASING EVEN WHEN THE ECONOMY 20:28 IS GOING UP. WHICH IS NOT HAPPENED BEFORE. 20:31 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE HISTORY, NORMALLY WHEN THE ECONOMY GOES 20:37 UP SUICIDE RATES GO DOWN. WHEN THE ECONOMY GOES DOWN 20:41 SUICIDE RATES GO UP. NOT LONG AGO WE HAD THE BEST 20:44 ECONOMY FROM THE 1950S AND SIXTIES BUT YET SUICIDE RATES 20:48 ARE HIGHER. WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN THE 20:50 ECONOMY GOES DOWN AGAIN. YOU KNOW IT'S GOING TO GET EVEN 20:54 WORSE. AND SO, KELY ACTUALLY 'EMULATES 21:04 THE TYPICAL PERSON IN TODAY THAT HAD SOME STRUGGLES. 21:07 SHE GREW UP WITH SOME STRUGGLES AND LED HER INTO SOME SUB 21:14 SUBSTANCES. ALL 3 OF THOSE DEATH OF DESPAIR 21:16 ASPECTS WERE KNOCKING ON HER DOOR RIGHT RIGHT AFTER THE OTHER 21:20 AND NOW SHE HAS TOTALLY OVERCOME AND HAS A FULFILLED AND HAPPY 21:25 EXISTENCE. SO, KELY, YOU MIGHT MENTION WHAT 21:30 WAS YOUR CHILDHOOD LIKE AND WHAT MIGHT HAVE LEAD YOU INTO SOME OF 21:33 THESE THINGS? >> WELL, MY PARENTS WERE 21:36 DIVORCED WHEN I WAS 2. AND THEN BOTH OF MY PARENTS 21:44 REMARRIED BUT IT WAS STILL A SPLIT HOME AND I LIVED WITH MY 21:49 MOTHER AND STEPFATHER. AND THAT HOUSEHOLD THEY DID THE 21:56 BEST THEY COULD. IT WAS A VERY VIOLENT HOUSEHOLD. 22:01 PHYSICALLY AND VERBALLY. >> SO YOU WERE WATCHING -- YOU 22:07 SAW ALL THAT? >> I SAW A LOT. 22:09 I EXPERIENCED A LOT. I ALSO PLAYED A PART IN IT. 22:17 SO, I WAS EXPOSED TO BAD BEHAVIOR, YOU KNOW, FAIRLY YOUNG 22:30 AND IT SHAPED ME INTO A VERY FEARFUL AND TIMID AND EASILY 22:37 SWAYED. I WAS JUST SEARCHING FOR I GUESS 22:41 LOVE AND ACCEPTANCE. >> WHAT WERE YOUR TEENAGE YEARS 22:47 LIKE? >> I DID VERY POOR IN SCHOOL. 22:52 I HAD A CORE GROUP OF FRIENDS THAT WERE ACTUALLY A GOOD 22:57 INFLUENCE ON ME, BUT THEN I ALSO HAD ANOTHER GROUP OF FRIENDS 23:04 THAT I COULD DO WHAT I WANTED WITH AND THEY DIDN'T CARE ABOUT 23:12 ME. SO, I WAS VERY CONFUSED AS A 23:17 TEENAGER. I DIDN'T HAVE ANY DIRECTION, AND 23:21 I DIDN'T HAVE -- I DIDN'T TRUST ANY ADULTS. 23:31 >> YOU MENTIONED EVEN TODAY AT AGE 10 YOU STARTED WITH 23:34 SUBSTANCES. >> YES. 23:36 I FOUND -- WELL, I WAS WITH SOME GIRLFRIEND OF MINE AND WE STOLE 23:43 OUR PARENTS 'CIGARETTES AND WE SMOKED CIGARETTES. 23:47 >> AT 10 YEARS OLD. SO THAT KIND OF OPENED THE DOOR 23:52 TO A NEW PATTERN. >> UH-HUH. 23:53 >> OF BEHAVIOR. >> YES. 23:56 >> AND SO, YOU STARTED WITH TOBACCO AT 10. 24:08 DID THIS BEGIN A PATTERN. >> THIS BEGAN A PATTERN. 24:13 THE GATES OPENED AND LOOKING BACK I CAN SEE HOW REALLY THE 24:21 DEVIL JUST TOOK A HOLD AND DID NOT LET ME GO. 24:26 >> SO AFTER TOBACCO WHAT WAS IT THEN? 24:30 >> AND THEN IT WAS ALCOHOL AT 15. 24:32 AND SHORTLY AFTER THAT IT WAS MARIJUANA AND THEN I STAYED IN 24:41 BETWEEN MARIJUANA, ALCOHOL AND TOBACCO FOR YEARS. 24:45 >> DID YOUR PARENTS HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT WAS GOING ON? 24:49 >> THEY KNEW ABOUT THE CIGARETTES. 24:53 THEY COULD SMELL IT BUT THEY NEVER -- I MEAN, MY MOM SAID, 24:57 YOU SHOULDN'T SMOKE. BUT IT WASN'T -- IT WAS VERY 25:01 ODD. THEY PUNISHED ME FOR REALLY 25:05 RIDICULOUS THINGS BUT THEY DIDN'T PUNISH ME FOR SMOKING 25:07 SIGNIFICCIGARETTES OR STEALING ALCOHOL. >> SO THEY KNEW YOU WERE 25:13 DRINKING TOO. >> YEAH. 25:15 >> DO YOU THINK THAT HAVING TWO SETS OF FRIENDS KIND OF CAUSED A 25:21 DOUBLE-MINDED -- >> DEFINITELY -- 25:24 >> -- SITUATION. >> YEAH, I WAS BASICALLY HALFWAY 25:27 IN AND HALFWAY OUT. >> WHAT WAS THE SPIRITUAL 25:30 CLIMATE IN YOUR HOME AT THAT TIME? 25:33 OR WAS THERE ANY KIND OF SPUR WITNESSALITY AT ALL? 25:38 >> THERE WASN'T. WE -- I MEAN, WE MIGHT HAVE GONE 25:44 TO CHURCH A COUPLE SABBATHS GROWING UP. 26:02 MY GRAND PARENTS ARE THE ONES FOR BRINGING ME BACK TO THE 26:08 LORD. >> I WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THAT. 26:09 I HAVE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GET INTO THAT. 26:13 AFTER YOU DEALT WITH THE MARIJUANA, DID YOU GO INTO 26:15 ANYTHING HEAVIER AND WHAT WAS THAT? 26:19 >> YEAH. I STAYED WITH MARIJUANA FOR 26:25 YEARS, AND THEN I ENDED UP PREGNANT. 26:30 I WAS 6 MONTHS PREGNANT AND I GOT A KIDNEY STONE AND I WAS 26:39 WORKING FOR A PHYSICIAN AND THEY ADMITTED ME INTO THE HOSPITAL 26:43 AND THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR ME, BUT 26:47 THAT'S WHAT I WAS INTRODUCED -- BECAUSE OF THE PAIN, I WAS PUT 26:52 ON PA PUMP OF DELL HROD IED AND GIVEN ORAL PERCOCET FOR A WEEK 27:04 STRAIGHT. AND THAT REALLY OPENED THE FLOOD 27:09 GATES. THAT MEDICATION, I BELIEVE, IS 27:16 JUST PEER EVIL. IT ASO INTERESTING TO ME HOW 27:48 SATAN JUST -- HE DOESN'T DO EVERYTHING ALL AT ONCE. 27:51 HE GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT HERE AND STARTS YOU WITH THE 27:54 CIGARETTES AND THEN YOU TAKES INTO THE ALCOHOL AND THE 27:57 MARIJUANA AND THEN TAKES YOU INTO THE OPIOIDS. 28:02 I MEAN EVERYTHING -- YOU KNOW, THERE'S A STRATEGY, HE HAS A 28:06 STRATEGY JUST LIKE GOD HAS A STRATEGY. 28:09 THE ENEMY HAS A STRATEGY AND HIS WHOLE THING IS TO DESTROY, TO 28:15 TAKE US ON THIS DOWNWARD SPIRAL AND DESTROY US. 28:20 AND IT'S JUST AMAZING TO ME HOW HE WORKS, AND YOU CAN SEE IT 28:26 OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. HIS PLAN IS TO DESTROY US. 28:31 AND GOD HAS A BETTER PLAN. >> AMEN. 28:33 >> HE HAS A BETTER PLAN. HOW LONG WERE YOU INVOLVED IN 28:39 THIS WHOLE DOWNWARD SPIRAL? >> IT DIDN'T TAKE LONG, PROBABLY 28:46 5 YEARS I WAS ADDICTED TO OPIATES. 28:50 >> 5 YEARS. >> HOW BAD WAS YOUR HABIT 28:57 >> THE LAST YEAR OF ME USING I WAS TAKING A RIDICULOUS AMOUNT. 29:02 IT WAS UP TO 300 MILLIGRAMS IN A 24 HOUR PERIOD OF PURE 29:14 OXYCONTIN. >> NORMALLY 20 MILLION GRAMS IS 29:16 ENOUGH TO LAST A LONG TIME AND PUT SOMEONE WHO IS NOT USED TO 29:21 NARCOTICS IN A STOOPER AND WANT TO SLEEP. 29:25 SO OXYCONTIN IS A POTENT NARCOTIC. 29:28 AND SHE WAS ON 300 MILLION GLAMS A DAY. 29:34 >> I KNOW THAT WASN'T CHEAP EITHER. 29:40 >> I'M SO EMBARRASSED TO EVEN SAY IT, AND I KIND OF DON'T WANT 29:45 TO BECAUSE AT THIS POINT I FEEL LIKE I NEED TO PROTECT SOME OF 29:50 THE PEOPLE THAT WERE INVOLVED. BUT IT WAS READILY AND EASILY 29:59 AVAILABLE TO ME. >> BUT IT DID COST. 30:04 >> DID COST. AND I'M PAYING THAT BACK. 30:12 NOW. >> THE BEAUTY OF THIS IS THAT 30:15 THAT WAS THE DEAD PERSON, THAT PERSON IS DEAD. 30:18 THAT PERSON NO LONGER EXISTS. >> THAT'S RIGHT. 30:21 >> YOU ARE A NEW CREATURE. >> THAT'S RIGHT. 30:25 AMEN. >> SO ALL THE FORMER THINGS 30:28 PASSED AWAY AND WHAT YOU HAVE NOW IS A HOW I GOT OVER, HOW I 30:33 GOT THROUGH TESTIMONY. BY THE GRACE OF GOD. 30:38 >> IT WAS ONLY GOD. I HAD NOTHING TO -- I WAS JUST 30:40 THE BODY. >> YOUR WHOLE COUNT NANCE IS 30:47 LIKE AALIVE IN CHRIST. HOW DID YOU GO FROM ABJECT 31:05 DESPAIR -- BECAUSE I'M SURE YOU HAD TO KEEP IT GOING, PHYSICAL 31:09 DEPENDANCE AND EMOTIONAL DEPENDANCE AND EVERYTHING THAT 31:12 GOES WITH ADDICTION. IT'S A NIGHTMARE. 31:19 I THINK PEOPLE TEND TO THINK, W 31:23 WELL, I HAVE THIS ADDICTION BUT NOT THAT ADDICTION. 31:27 SO I'M NOT ON HEROIN BUT I'M ON PRESCRIPTION DRUGS. 31:31 WHATEVER IT IS IT IS AN ADDICTION. 31:33 THE DYNAMICS ARE THE SAME. SO, IT'S LIKE GOD CAN DELIVER 31:41 YOU FROM WHATEVER HOLDS YOU IN BONDAGE. 31:43 >> AMEN. >> THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. 31:45 TELL US HOW IT HAPPENED. >> SO, MARCH 22ND, 2017 I WAS 31:56 DONE. I WAS DONE WITH ABUSING MY BODY. 32:00 I WAS DONE WITH ALLOWING OTHERS TO ABUSE ME. 32:03 I WAS JUST DONE, AND I GOT ON MY KNEES AND WHICH I DON'T -- I 32:11 JUST DON'T DO OR I DIDN'T DO -- AND I CRIED OUT. 32:16 I WAS IN TEARS. I WAS BAWLING AND I WAS YELLING, 32:20 I SAID "LORD YOU HAVE TO HELP ME GET OFF THIS BECAUSE I CANNOT DO 32:24 IT ON MY OWN." AND IT WAS LIKE, BOOM, I HAD A 32:30 PLAN. I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS BUT I 32:32 MADE A PHONE CALL AND THEN I MADE ANOTHER PHONE CALL, AND 32:36 THEN YOU KNOW, MY PARENTS -- AS -- I MEAN, AS TORMENTED AS WE 32:47 WERE GROWING UP THEY WERE STILL THERE FOR ME, AND I ASKED 32:50 THEM -- BECAUSE I AM A NURSE, IF -- I FELT LIKE IF I WERE TO 32:57 ASK FOR HELP IN THE MEDICAL PROFESSION THAT IT MAY -- I MAY 33:06 HAVE SOME OTHER THINGS I MIGHT HAVE TO GET THROUGH OR GET IN 33:11 MORE TROUBLE. SO I ASKED IF I COULD DO A 33:19 WITHDRAWAL AT THEIR HOME. >> COLD TURKEY? 33:21 >> COLD TURKEY. >> FROM THEY HUNDRED MILLIGRAMS? 33:24 >> UH-HUH. >> WHAT WAS THAT LIKE? 33:26 >> AWFUL. I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND THAT. 33:32 IT'S VERY SCARY. >> ONE POINT TO CONSIDER HERE 33:38 THOUGH. OUR COUNTRY IS DEALING WITH 33:42 OPIOIDS. MORE PEOPLE DIE FROM OPIOIDS 33:44 THAN AUTOMOBILE ACCIDENTS AND THERE'S LIKE CLOSE TO 200 PEOPLE 33:48 A DAY THAT ARE DYING FROM OPIOID OVERDOSE AND WAS VERY, VERY 33:56 CLOSE THAT THIS AND ALCOHOL PRIOR TO THAT SHE COULD TELL YOU 33:59 MORE ABOUT THE ALCOHOL AND WHAT THAT DID. 34:02 BUT THEN FROM ALCOHOL TO OPIOIDS. 34:07 OPIOIDS DO NOT CAUSE DEATH UPON WITHDRAWAL. 34:11 IT'S NOT LIKE -- EVEN ALCOHOL YOU CAN HAVE DT'S OR BENZO'S YOU 34:21 CAN HAVE SEIZURES YOU DON'T SEES FROM OPIOIDS. 34:24 IN FACT OPIOIDS CAN CAUSE SEIZURES. 34:28 YOU'RE MORE RESISTANT. IT'S EXTREME DYSPHORIA. 34:33 SO A TERRIBLE EXPERIENCE BUT ONE ONE THAT YOU'LL ACTUALLY DIE 34:36 FROM OPIOID WITHDRAWAL. NOW YOU CAN HAVE -- WELL, SHE'LL 34:42 EXPLAIN. TELL US ABOUT SOME OF THE 34:43 SYMPTOMS THAT YOU HAD. >> IN THE VERY BEGINNING, I 34:51 PROBABLY COULD NOT FORMULATE A FULL SENTENCE. 34:55 I HAD RACING THOUGHTS AND JUST RAMBLING ON. 35:03 THEN THE LETHARGY SET IN AND I HAD NO ENERGY AND ABOUT 48 HOURS 35:14 I WAS THROWING UP NON STOP. PROBABLY EVERY 15 MINUTES. 35:20 >> WERE YOU REPLACING FLUIDS OR ANYTHING? 35:24 >> YES, YES. I WAS TRYING TO, BUT ANY TIME I 35:28 PUT ANYTHING IN MY BODY IT WOULD COME RIGHT BACK UP. 35:32 SO, I DID WHAT I COULD DO. I SUCKED ON A LOT OF ICE DURING 35:36 THAT TIME. I TRIED TO DRINK WATER. 35:41 IT WOULD NOT STAY DOWN. I GOT IN THE SHOWER A LOT. 35:46 >> WAS ANYBODY WITH YOU KIND OF WALKING YOU THROUGH THIS 35:49 PROCESS? >> MY PARENTS WERE KIND OF 35:51 LISTENING IN THE BACKGROUND BUT I WAS ON MY OWN. 35:59 >> BECAUSE OPIOIDS CAUSE CON CON INSTAGRAM PAYINGS IT CAUSES 36:16 DIARRHEA: DEHYDRATION CAN KILL YOU BUT CAN BE TREATED. 36:38 >> THEY WANTED TO GET ME OUT OF THE WITHDRAWAL. 36:41 THEY WANTED TO GIVE ME MORE OEUP OWEDS. 36:44 >> BUT SHE REFUSED. THAT'S WHY GOD WAS INVOLVED. 36:46 SHE SAID WHATEVER YOU DO, DON'T GIVE ME OPIOIDS. 36:50 I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK ON THEM. SO THEY HYDRATED HER UP WITH 36:55 I.V.'SAND GAVE HER ANTI-MEDICS AND DISCHARGED HER FROM THE ER 36:59 >> BECAUSE I HAD NO INSURANCE. >> THAT WILL GET YOU OUT OF 37:04 THERE QUICK. [LAUGHTER] 37:19 >> IT WAS 30 DAYS BEFORE I STARTED TO FEEL NORMAL OR NOT 37:24 REALLY NORMAL, JUST THAT I COULD ACTUALLY GO UP A FLIGHT OF 37:28 STAIRS WITHOUT HAVING TO STOP IN THE MIDDLE AND CATCH MY BREATH 37:34 OR -- IT TOOK THE ENERGY OUT. >> TOOK A PRETTY BIG CHUNK OUT 37:39 OF YOUR LIFE TOO, RIGHT? YOU WEREN'T ABLE TO FUNCTION. 37:41 YOU WEREN'T -- YOU DIDN'T HAVE A JOB AT THE TIME. 37:45 >> NO. I QUIT MY JOB TWO YEARS PRIOR TO 37:50 MY SOBER DATE BECAUSE I COULDN'T FUNCTION. 38:01 >> HOW LONG WAS THE TOTAL TIME ADDICTION FOR YOU? 38:05 >> I WOULD SAY FROM 10 YEARS ON FROM THAT FIRST CIGARETTE. 38:13 >> WOW. >> GO AHEAD. 38:15 >> AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SAY YOUR AGE ON MARCH 22. 38:26 >> 38. THAT MEANS 28 YEARS OF 38:30 ADDICTION. FROM AGE 10 TO 38. 38:33 BUT THEN THE STORY DOESN'T END. WHEN THE OEPIOIDS ARE DONE. 38:41 BECAUSE MANY TIMES PEOPLE IN A UTILIZE SUBSTANCES THEY'RE 38:46 SELF-MEDICATING BECAUSE THERE'S EMOTIONAL PAIN 39:05 >> I BECAME SUICIDAL. I WAS THINKING ABOUT SUICIDE A 39:10 LOT BECAUSE I JUST COULD NOT DEAL WITH THAT EMOTIONAL PAIN. 39:16 >> IN A WAY THIS IS WHERE PEOPLE FEEL TRAPPED BECAUSE THEY KNOW I 39:21 CAN'T GO BACK TO THE OPIOIDS BECAUSE THAT WAS TERRIBLE AND I 39:23 CAN'T GO BACK TO THE KHOL BECAUSE THAT'S A TERRIBLE LIFE. 39:26 SO MY WAYS OF SELF-MEDICATING AREN'T WORKING BUT YET I HAVE 39:32 THIS SEVERE DEPRESSION TO THE POINT WHERE WHAT IS THE POINT OF 39:36 LIFE, AND MAYBE I SHOULD JUST -- I'D BE BETTER OFF DEAD. 39:42 SO WITH THAT FEELING OF TRAPPED AND THE FEELING DOWN, SHE 39:46 STARTED TO GET INTO THE HOPELESSNESS. 39:50 >> AND I STARTED MAKING PLANS. >> THIS IS WHERE GOD WAS 39:58 INVOLVED AGAIN. WHEN I WENT TO MY PARENTS' HOUSE 40:18 TO WITHDRAWAL I ALSO BROUGHT MY GUN, AND I BROUGHT BULLETS. 40:24 I DON'T KNOW WHY I JUST DID. AND WHEN I WAS THAT DESPERATE, 40:31 WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THE EMOTIONS AND I WAS SOBER, I JUST 40:35 COULDN'T TAKE IT AND I WENT UP TO MY BEDROOM AND I PULLED THE 40:39 GUN OUT AND I WENT TO PUT THE BULLETS IN AND I GRABBED THE 40:44 WRONG ONES. THEY WOULDN'T FIT. 40:48 BUT THEN I WAS LIKE, OKAY, WELL, IF I CAN'T DO IT THIS WAY, I'M 40:52 JUST GOING TO GO OUT AND I'M GOING TO JUMP IN FRONT OF A CAR. 40:58 AND I DID IT IMMEDIATELY WITHOUT A SECOND THOUGHT AND I WENT DOWN 41:01 TO THAT BUSY INTERSECTION AND I WAS JUST WAITING FOR THE RIGHT 41:08 CAR AND A CHILDHOOD FRIEND WAS AT THE CORNER AT A STOP SIGN IN 41:15 A CAR AND CALLED OUT MY NAME. AND I LOOKED OVER AT HER AND SHE 41:21 LOOKED AT ME AND SHE SAID, ARE YOU OKAY? 41:24 AND I WAS LIKE, NO. I AM NOT OKAY. 41:30 AND SO SHE TOLD ME TO GET IN HER CAR AND I TOLD HER WHAT WAS 41:37 GOING ON AND SHE GOT ME TO MY FIRST AA MEETING. 41:42 I NEEDED SOMETHING. THAT STARTED MY SUPPORT GROUP. 41:49 >> GOD HAD HER RIGHT THERE. RIGHT ON TIME. 41:56 >> YES. >> AT A BUSY INTERSECTION. 42:02 >> LOOK AT GOD. >> WERE THE SUICIDE IDEATIONS 42:19 WERE A RESULT OF THE CHEMICAL IMBALANCE THAT WAS A RESULT OF 42:23 THE OPIOID ADDICTION YOU THINK. COULD THIS BE A PHYSIOLOGICAL 42:33 BASIS FOR THE DEPRESSION. >> YEAH. 42:36 THAT'S WHY SHE WAS SELF-MEDICATING WITH OPIOIDS AS 42:40 WELL. SHE WOULD FEEL BA AND TAKE THAT 42:41 AND SINCE IT'S A FRONT OF LOBE SUPPRESSANT IT'S NOT LIKE SHE 42:45 COULD ANALYZE HER LIFE ON A DAY-BY-DAY BASIS ON HOW WELL IS 42:50 THIS WORKING. SHE LOST HER JOB WITHOUT 42:52 EMPLOYMENT FOR TWO YEARS AND FINALLY CAME TO A MOMENT OF SOEB 42:56 SITE WHERE SHE REALIZED I NEED TO GET RID OF ALL THIS STUFF. 43:01 BUT YET SHE DIDN'T REALIZE WHAT LIFE WAS GOING TO BE LIKE 43:08 WITHOUT THAT. EVEN UNRESOLVED THINGS FROM 43:12 CHILDHOOD AND YES SOME BRAIN CHEMICAL CHANGES GOING ON IN HER 43:18 AND THEN NOT HAVING ANY SENSE OF FULFILLMENT AND OF COURSE 43:22 THERE'S BEEN OTHER STRESSORS OF LIFE THAT WE HAVEN'T MENTIONED. 43:25 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO MENTION SOME OF THE OTHER ONES 43:28 THAT ARE PRETTY BIG THAT SHE WAS COVERING UP WITH ALL THIS. 43:45 >> >> I OF A DAUGHTER WHO IS 10 43:48 YEARS OLD AND BECAUSE OF MY CHOICES SHE LIVES WITH HER 43:53 GRANDPARENTS AND HER FATHER. >> THAT'S ALSO SO HARD I'M SURE. 43:59 >> IT'S VERY DIFFICULT. AND NOW THAT YOUR CHOICES ARE SO 44:05 DIFFERENT, CAN THAT BE REVERSED IN ANY WAY? 44:09 >> THERE'S ALWAYS HOPE. AND I HAVE TO GIVE IT TO THE 44:17 LORD BECAUSE I AM POWERLESS OVER THAT SITUATION. 44:20 >> BUT THERE'S NO ONE TO GIVE IT TO YOU. 44:22 >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> THE OMNIPOTENT WHERE WE ARE 44:29 POWERLESS HE'S OMNIPOTENT. >> HE'S THE ONE UP FOR THE 44:34 CHALLENGE. >> HOW DID YOU COME TO TURN 44:37 EVERYTHING OVER TO HIM. LET'S TALK ABOUT THE REVERSAL. 44:40 HOW DID YOU COME TO REVERSES? >> MY GRANDPARENTS THEY BOTH GOT 44:52 SICK AND I WAS ABOUT 6 MONTHS SOBER AND STILL MISERABLE, YOU 45:00 KNOW. AND THOSE SUICIDAL THOUGHTS WERE 45:05 COMING BACK AND I JUST WASN'T BEING HONEST ABOUT IT. 45:10 AND MY GRANDMOTHER CALLED AND JUST SAID, WE REALLY NEED YOUR 45:15 HELP. JUST COME DOWN HERE AND YOU CAN 45:17 TAKE CARE OF US AND WE'LL TAKE CARE OF YOU. 45:20 AND WE'LL GET THROUGH THIS. PLEASE GET DOWN HERE. SO 45:25 THEY'RE IN FLORIDA AND I DROVE FROM VIRGINIA TO FLORIDA. 45:37 I THOUGHT THINGS WERE GOING TO BE GREAT THERE. 45:39 THEY WERE FOR ABOUT A COUPLE WEEKS, BUT THEN THE THOUGHTS 45:45 WERE COMING BACK AND I WAS ISOLATING A LOT, AND FOOD NOW 45:51 BECAME MY ADDICTION. I PROBABLY GAINED ABOUT 40 45:54 POUNDS WHEN I WHAT YOU THERE. I WAS SNEAK EATING AT NIGHT AND 46:01 I WAS PRETTY MISERABLE AND THEN I WAS DEFINITELY PLANNING 46:11 ANOTHER ATTEMPT. AND MY GRANDMOTHER WHO HAS BEEN 46:18 MY NUMBER ONE FAN AND A VERY LOYAL DAUGHTER OF GOD PICKED UP 46:27 ON IT. AND I HEARD HER ON THE PHONE 46:30 WITH MY FATHER SAYING, SHE IS GOING TO DIE IF WE DON'T DO 46:36 SOMETHING. AND I JUST REMEMBER THINKING, 46:38 I'M NOT GOING TO DIE. AND THEN I WAS LIKE, OH, WAIT, 46:43 HOW DOES SHE KNOW? SHE MUST KNOW, GOD'S TELLING HER 46:51 SOMETHING. AND SHE WAS THE ONE WHO 46:57 SUGGESTED THAT I CALL THE NEDLEY HILLS SOLUTIONS. 47:03 AND SET UP MY APPOINTMENT TO GO TO THE DEPRESSION RECOVERY 47:09 PROGRAM. AND GRANDMA'S REALLY THE ONLY 47:11 ONE THAT I LISTEN TO. SO WHEN GRANDMA SAYS SOMETHING 47:14 YOU DO IT. >> SHOULD WHAT WAS IT LIKE WHEN 47:17 YOU WENT TO THE PROGRAM? >> OH, MAN. 47:19 IT WAS SO BEAUTIFUL. IT WAS LIKE A VACATION BUT IT 47:28 WAS LIKE SELF-HELP VACATION. I LEARNED HOW TO DEAL WITH THOSE 47:38 UNTRUE NEGATIVE THOUGHT THAT I HAD BEEN TELLING MYSELF BEFORE I 47:46 WAS 10 YEARS OLD. I LEARNED HOW TO BE EASY ON 47:53 MYSELF AND HOW TO START A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE LORD AND 47:57 THE LORD IS NOT MY EARTHLY FATHER, HE'S MY HEAVENLY FATHER 47:59 AND THERE IS A DISTINCTION, HUGE DISTINCTION. 48:06 AND YOU KNOW, I LOOK TO HIM FOR GUIDANCE NOW. 48:23 EVEN WITH THEM KNOWING HOW BAD MY LIFE HAD BECOME, YOU KNOW, 48:29 THAT I WAS THE ONE THAT CAUSED MOST OF THOSE PROBLEMS, IF NOT 48:37 ALL OF THEM, AND I LEARNED THAT I CAN ALSO FORGIVE; THAT I CAN 48:45 DO IT ABOUT BOUNDARIES. IN ORDER TO ORDER TO FORGIVE I 49:06 HAVE TO LET IT GO AND TO TRULY BE HAPPY YOU REALLY JUST HAVE TO 49:13 FORGIVE AND LET IT GO. YOU CAN'T HANG ON TO IT BECAUSE 49:21 IT'S NOT REALLY -- THAT'S NOT GOD EITHER. 49:25 THAT'S NOT WHAT GOD WANTS US TO DO. 49:28 >> SHE WENT THROUGH A LOT OF BEHAVIORAL CHANGES TOO. 49:32 >> SUCH AS? >> THE THOUGHT PART I'M GLAD YOU 49:35 CENTERED IN ON THAT BECAUSE THE PROGRAM STARTS OUT WITH MORE 49:39 BEHAVIORAL CHANGES. PHYSICAL EXERCISE. 49:43 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU EXERCISED OR NOT BEFORE. 49:46 >> NO. >> BEFORE COMING TO THE PROGRAM. 49:48 THE HYDRO THERAPY AND CONTRAST BATHS AND -- 49:51 >> THE DIET CHANGE. >> THE DIET. 49:54 IN FACT, WERE YOU THE BIGGEST LOSER IN THE PROGRAM -- 49:59 >> IS I WAS CLOSE TO IT. I LIKED THE FOOD TOO MUCH. 50:04 I WOULD HAVE LOST MORE BUT THERE WAS A BREAD BAR. 50:10 >> HOW MUCH DID YOU LOSE DURING? >> IN THE PROGRAM I LOST -- IN 50:17 10 DAYS I LOST 12 POUNDS AND THAT WAS LIKE KIND OF OVEREATING 50:23 WITH EXERCISE. IT WAS GREAT. 50:27 BUT IN ALL ACTUALITY, LET ME DO THE MATH. 50:31 I JUST GOT ON THE SCALE THE OTHER DAY. 50:33 I DON'T WANT TO GIVE MY WEIGHT AWAY. 50:41 I'VE LOST 60 POUNDS. >> THAT'S INCREDIBLE. 50:46 >> HOW DID THE PHYSICAL CHANGES IMPACT THE MENTAL? 50:50 >> WOW. I MEAN, THEY GO HAND IN HAND. 50:57 IF I DON'T EXERCISE, I FEEL IF. MAYBE NOT THE NEXT DAY OR MAYBE 51:03 NOT THAT DAY, BUT IN A COUPLE OF DAYS, I'LL FEEL IT. 51:09 MY MOOD -- I'LL BE SHORT TEMPERED OR A LITTLE ANGRY FOR 51:13 NO REASON OR IT WILL JUST BE LIKE -- IT WILL CATCH ME OFF 51:20 GUARD. AND THEN I'M LIKE, OH, I GET TO 51:25 GET MY EXERCISE. I HAD CHEESE. 51:42 >> I JUST HAVE A GLOW ABOUT YOU AND A REAL PEACE IN YOUR 51:47 CONTINENCE, AMEN. GOD CAN DO AMAZING THINGS. 51:53 LET ME SHARE THIS ONE SCRIPTURE. FILL LEAPIANS 4:6 FROM THE NEW 52:00 KING JAMES IT SAYS BE ANXIOUS FOR NOTHING BUT IN EVERYTHING 52:04 WITH THANKSGIVING LET YOUR REQUEST BE MADE KNOWN TO GOD AND 52:08 IS THE PEACE OF GOD WHICH SURPASSES ALL UNDERSTANDING WILL 52:11 GUARD YOUR HEARTS AND MIND THROUGH CHRIST JESUS. 52:14 AND THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE DONE. YOU'VE GONE TO GOD AND YOU'VE 52:19 PLACED YOUR REQUEST AT HIS FEET AND THANKED HIM FOR HIS ANSWERS 52:23 AND HE'S GIVEN YOU HIS PEACE. AND THAT IS A BEAUTIFUL THING. 52:29 >> SHE'S WORKING AGAIN AND SHE IS NOW ACTUALLY GOING TO BIB 52:34 BIBLE STUDIES WITH OTHERS. >> DOES YOUR PROGRAM DEAL WITH 52:49 NICOTINE TOBACCO ADDICTION? >> ABSOLUTELY. 52:52 YEAH. >> REALLY? 52:53 >> YEAH. INTERESTING THING WE KEEP DATA 52:56 ON ALL OUR PROGRAMS BUT EVEN OUR COMMUNITY PROGRAM BECAUSE WE 52:58 HAVE A RESIDENTIAL BUT WE HAVE AN OUT PATIENT COMMUNITY 53:02 PROGRAM. OUR DATA ON 6,000 PEOPLE SHOWS 53:05 THAT WHEN THEY COME TO A DEPRESSION AND ANXIETY RECOVERY 53:09 PROGRAM, THEY'RE ACTUALLY MORE LIKELY TO GIVE UP THEIR 53:12 ADDICTIONS THAN IF THEY GO TO A PROGRAM THAT JUST CENTERS IN ON 53:16 THEIR ADDICTION. AND I THINK IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE 53:19 DEALING WITH THE UNDERLYING BRAIN CHEMISTRY ISSUES AS WELL 53:22 AS THE THOUGHT ISSUES BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE DO GET GET SOBER 53:27 EVEN IN AA THEY'LL FEATURE YOUR WORST YEAR OF LIFE WILL TEND TO 53:32 BE YOUR FIRST YEAR OF SOEB SITE BUT IT WON'T BE THAT WAY IF WE 53:36 CAN HELP THE BRAIN CHEMICAL ISSUES AS WELL AS HELP GET RID 53:39 OF WHAT UNCLE BOB AND AA CLLS THE STINKIN' THINKIN' WHICH IS 53:47 THE NEGATIVE AUTOMATIC THOUGHTS THAT ARE NOT TRUE OR AT LEAST 53:51 PARTIALLY NOT TRUE AND THAT'S WHAT SHE HAD GOTTEN INTO WAS 53:57 THIS STINKIN' THINKIN' WHEN SHE COULDN'T STOP THE THOUGHTS ALL 54:01 TOGETHER -- YOU HAVE TO STOP THEM WITH THE DRUGS AND NOW YOU 54:04 HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE THOUGHTS AND HOW HEALTHFULLY SHE'S 54:08 DEALING WITH THEM NOW. >> YES, YES. 54:11 >> SO YOU FIND THAT IF YOU WERE TO SUMMARIZE WHERE YOU ARE NOW 54:16 IN THE LORD AND JUST EMOTIONALLY, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY? 54:23 >> I WOULDN'T EVEN RECOGNIZE MYSELF IF I WAS IN THE WORLD, I 54:32 WOULD NOT RECOGNIZE WHO I AM TODAY. 54:37 AND I DON'T RECOGNIZE THE GIRL IN PICTURES FROM A COUPLE OF 54:43 YEARS AGO. IT JUST BAFFLES ME. 54:48 I WOULD SAY THAT MY RELATIONSHIP WITH THE LORD IS GROWING EVERY 54:55 DAY AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE LITTLE MIRACLES AND THE 55:01 RESPONSES THAT I GET FROM HIM. AS SUBTLE AS THEY ARE. 55:08 THEY'RE HUGE. SOMETIMES I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY 55:11 MEAN, BUT IT'S NOT FOR ME TO KNOW. 55:15 I GUESS. HE'S THE ONE IN CHARGE. 55:19 I'M JUST THE BODY. >> HE GAVE YOU A HUGE HUG WHEN 55:23 HE HAD THAT FRIEND STTING ON THAT CORNER. 55:26 HE GAVE YOU A HUGE HUG THEN. >> AMEN. 55:33 >> MOST OF YOUR PATIENTS AT THE FACILITY HAVE AMAZING 55:39 TESTIMONIES I WOULD IMAGINE BY THE END OF THEIR TIME THERE. 55:42 HOW LONG IS THE TREATMENT PROGRAM? 55:45 >> THE TREATMENT PROGRAM IS 10 DAY PROGRAM. 55:47 THIS IS ALL DONE IN 10 DAYS. SO NOT EVERY ONE DO WE RECOMMEND 55:54 THEY GO HOME IN 10 DAYS BUT KELY ENDORSED EVERYTHING. 55:59 PARTLY DUE TO THE FACT SHE WAS ALREADY SOBER. 56:01 SOME PEOPLE COME AND THEY'RE ON THESE DRUGS AND WE'RE HAVING TO 56:06 TAKE THEM OFF AND THEN THEY START HAVING THE STINKIN' 56:11 THINKIN' EVEN WHILE PART OF THE PROGRAM AND MAY NEED MORE THAN 56:13 10 DAYS. BUT SINCE SHE WAS ALREADY OFF 56:16 THE DRUGS WHEN SHE CAME THROUGH THE PROGRAM SHE COMPLIED WITH 56:20 EVERY ASPECT OF THE PROGRAM. AS A RESULT AS SEVERE AS HER 56:26 DEPRESSION WAS, SUICIDAL DEPRESSION SHE LEFT WITH NO 56:36 DEPRESSION. IT TAKES 20 WEEKS TO SOLIDIFY 56:41 THIS PROCESS. >> 20 WEEKS? 56:42 >> WE GAVE HER A DISCHARGE PLAN TO CONTINUE ON FOR 20 WEEKS, AND 56:50 SHE DID THE PLAN. >> I STUCK TO IT. 56:53 BUT I HAD HELP. >> WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR 57:01 SHARING YOUR TESTIMONY WITH US, KELY. 57:03 IT'S BEAUTIFUL AND WE KNOW TAT GOD HAS GREAT PLANS FOR YOU 57:07 >> THANK YOU. >> YOU JUST HAVE TO HOLD ON AND 57:10 CONTINUE WALKING WITH HIM. AND THANK YOU, TOO, DR. NEDLEY. 57:15 DON'T GO ANYWHERE AND DON'T YOU GO ANYWHERE. 57:18 WE'RE SO BLESSED TO HAVE THESE TERMS THIS EVENING. 57:27 BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE GOING THROUGH DEPRESSION AND 57:31 ANXIETY AND OCD AND ALL KINDS OF ISSUES THAT ARE EFFECTING OUR 57:36 BEHAVIOR. SO STAY TUNED. 57:39 DON'T GO ANYWHERE. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. |
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