I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello, and welcome to
another 3ABN Today Live.
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My name is Jason Bradley,
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and I'm so happy that you
could join us this evening.
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We have a powerful
two hours planned for you
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where you'll get SALT update,
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as well as
we'll be talking about
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how Service Builds Character.
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SALT is no stranger to 3ABN.
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Perhaps you've seen
another interview with them,
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they have a very
powerful ministry.
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And so we'll be taking a
look at practical Christianity,
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as well as various other
aspects of their ministry.
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And tonight,
another exciting thing
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is the fact that you
get to be my co-host.
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And what do I mean by that?
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Well, we will be
taking questions.
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And we will ask
questions in the second hour.
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So we'll be
looking for your questions.
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You can send those
questions to live@3abn.tv
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or you can call (618) 627-4651.
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So we'll be taking those
questions in the second hour.
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Make sure you
send us your questions
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in regards to
the ministry of SALT
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in finding your purpose.
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All right, Eric Camarillo.
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We have Eric and
he's the president.
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And you also
added some more letters
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behind your name, Eric.
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Yeah. Yeah, I
have MNM after my name.
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Now I got my master's
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in nonprofit
management last Friday.
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Okay.
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Yeah, so I've
graduated now, no more homework.
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No more staying up till 3:00
in the morning doing papers,
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you know, that's all.
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It's all behind me now.
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So the President
of SALT Outreach,
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and then we have
Lo-Ammi Richardson,
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who is an Evangelist
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and Harvest
Director for SALT Outreach.
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Yes.
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You got to tell us about that?
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And what is
Harvest? What is that?
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Well, the title kind of,
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the name kind of
came up with Eric
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as he was kind of developing
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what we're gonna do
on the Spiritual Emphasis
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with the
organization and he's like, man,
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"Well, we sow a lot of
seeds throughout the community,
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we need to harvest them.
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Harvest Director and
that's how it kind of came up.
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So my job is to kind of focus
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on the spiritual element of SALT
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and create programs
to harvest the souls
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that we've been ministering
to in the city of Orlando.
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Nice, nice.
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And, Eric, what
does SALT stand for?
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Yeah, SALT's an acronym
for Service and Love Together.
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We actually have our
logo, updated logo, actually.
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And you see it's on a clock.
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And, you know, and, you know,
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I guess a plug here
is the SALTstore.org.
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Is a place we started
selling some SALT merchandise,
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but you see, there
that we added a slogan
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"At Your Service."
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Our vice president Esau
Vargas came up with that slogan
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and it's stuck ever since.
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He has millions ideas,
and this one actually stuck.
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I like, I love it
like so At Your Service,
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what can we do to serve?
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And better use of
SALT At Your Service.
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That is awesome. Right.
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That is awesome.
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So tell me a little
bit about your background
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and your upbringing?
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Were you always in the church?
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Yeah.
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So I was raised as a Catholic,
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you know, my parents,
you know, will go to church,
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every now and then on Sundays.
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And, you know, I
didn't really believe,
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I just kind of went
along with emotions.
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It wasn't until I was
going through a downtime.
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I had a Bible that
someone had bought me
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just a few months prior
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and I flipped
through and the words
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in red caught my attention.
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So I started reading
the Sermon on the Mount.
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After I started reading that,
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I started to feel this comfort
I hadn't felt before and,
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you know, I called up
some groups of friends
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and they were Christians
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and two of them happen
to be Seventh-day Adventist
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and other
nondenominational group.
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And, you know,
about three months later
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I was baptized in the
Seventh-day Adventist Church.
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Wow, that's awesome.
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What about you, Lo-Ammi?
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Well, mine was
quite the opposite.
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I kind of grew up in
the Adventist Church,
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you know, grew up
in a Christian home
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where you had
morning, evening devotions.
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If you ever
attended a black church,
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it's all day event,
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so I literally grew up
in the church seven days
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out of the week,
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Home Church and then Pathfinders
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and then AY and Choir
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and everything else in between.
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But just because you
go to church doesn't mean
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that you have a saving
relationship with Jesus.
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And so, at the time,
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I kind of drifted away from God
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and pursued a
career in basketball
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and got caught up in drugs
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and, you know,
violence, and fighting,
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and, you know,
everything else in between,
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and just was drawn to
the things of the world.
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And eventually,
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you know, my sister invited
me to a conference called GYC,
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Generation of Youth for Christ,
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which is a youth conference
that meets up once a year.
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And she said,
"You've been sponsored."
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Well, a little
bit I know, the person
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who sponsored me was my mother.
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She always was
laboring for my soul.
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And so... Yes.
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Long story short, you know,
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I went to that conference
and completely changed my life.
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And I've been in
full time evangelism
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and ministry ever since.
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Praise the Lord. Yeah.
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Yeah, I think it's always
nice to really get to know
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the people behind the ministry.
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You know, because
they see this side of you,
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but, you know, they
don't know the background.
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So that's always important.
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Right now, we're
gonna take a brief break
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and go to some music.
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Before we get
deeper into this interview,
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and we're going to be
blessed in song by Lake Jones,
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"How Deep The
Father's Love For Us."
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Well, that's the fun
thing with live TV, right?
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Yeah.
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Live television
sometimes a button gets pressed
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and it doesn't work,
but you role with it anyway.
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That's right.
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We could sing too,
but I don't know...
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I don't think
that's a good idea.
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Probably not a good idea.
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I don't think we're
called for different ministry.
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I think we
should talk about SALT.
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Okay, yeah, that's better.
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I like that. Yeah.
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We talk about SALT.
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So what are some of the things
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that you guys do
within the community?
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I know, you said
you're in Orlando.
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Yes.
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So what are some
things that you focus on?
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Yeah, so as far as
Outreach is concerned,
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we have our hospital outreach,
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we have groups of volunteers
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that go out room to
room in the hospital,
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they sing and
pray with patients.
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And, you know, we
have many testimonies
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that come out of that,
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you know, when
you lose your health,
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I mean, you're at the bottom,
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you know, and so
when volunteers come in,
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and they kind of offer hope,
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it really makes a
difference, you know,
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and so we have a good
volunteers to do that.
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We still have
our tutoring program,
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which we're in the
works of recruiting tutors
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still to hopefully
launch that soon officially.
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And then, we have
our homeless outreach,
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which is probably
our most known outreach,
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and most impactful, it's
our largest one right now.
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So we're working on a
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back to work
program for the homeless.
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Okay.
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As we build up to that,
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we're offering services
that would help the homeless
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in obtaining employment,
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that includes,
you know, haircuts,
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that includes clothing, showers,
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that includes
partnering with an organization,
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project ID that
helps with identification,
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you know, and various
other organizations come in
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and help the
homeless to get to that place.
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So... That is, that is huge.
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And that is a big part
of practical Christianity
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finding the
need, meeting the need,
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the interesting thing
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with being in the
community is that,
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you know, you have
the opportunity to have
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either an influence
over someone for good
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or an influence
over someone for bad.
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Lo-Ammi, you are
saying that you were out,
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you know, of the
church for a while.
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But then you came back
and you heard something at GYC
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that just transformed your life.
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Yeah, it was quite
amazing, actually because,
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you know, I grew up, you
know, Adventist all my life,
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understood the
culture of Adventism
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and just being a
Christian as a whole.
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And it was actually the messages
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like Sebastian Braxton
early in the morning that,
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you know, he
didn't grow up Adventist,
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and he was preaching with
such passion and intensity
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and just completely
convicted over the message.
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He was preaching and I
was thinking to myself,
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I'm like, "Man, this brother
is zealous over something
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that I grew up
hearing and understanding."
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It wasn't until, you know,
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I had an experience with Christ,
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that everything that, you know,
grew up learning and believing,
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actually made sense
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that I realize is far more than
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just studying my
Bible and praying.
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God has actually commissioned me
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to do much more
and do greater works
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than I had been
doing and so yeah,
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so it was in that
conversion experience
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that I realized
that God was calling me
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to something higher
and greater than myself.
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And so that's why I chose
to be in full-time ministry
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ever since.
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Amen. Amen.
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And, Eric, like,
what made you why SALT?
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Why are you so passionate
about helping other people?
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Right.
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Well, you know,
SALT started a year after
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I became a Christian,
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and, you know what?
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It just was something
that needed to happen,
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you know, in the
community in Orlando,
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you know, there's
tons of churches there.
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But there
needed to be a vehicle,
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not only to help create a
community of young adults,
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and not only a
community of young adults,
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but a community of
service among young adults.
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But also, an organization
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that help create
relationships with those
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that were
ministering to Christ method
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is to create
relationships with people,
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you know, that's
how meet their needs
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and create those relationships.
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That's what we're
called to do, you know.
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And why SALT?
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That's starts the
vehicle in which that
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I use to make that happen,
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you know, and lots of other
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all of our
volunteers are leadership,
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they're all on
board for the same reason,
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you know, to make an
impact in the community
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to reach other people.
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Which is quite interesting,
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actually a part
of your testimony,
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when you said you
was reading through the,
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you know, the letters in red.
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What was the verse that
actually stuck out to you?
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Yeah, you know
what? That's funny.
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I mean, Matthew
5:13-16, did stick out.
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And at that time, you
know, that was one of the first
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I mean, verses there in
the Sermon on the Mount.
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Somebody wanna read that? Yeah.
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Let's see, there's
nothing like going to the Word.
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That's right.
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Which is quite interesting
because we talked about,
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you know, our
personal experiences
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and our background.
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You know, we both,
you know, with Eric,
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having some
sort of understanding
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about Christianity
grew up a Catholic,
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for me growing up in
the Adventist Church.
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But like, before, you know,
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you got to Matthew 5:13,
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Jesus kind of, is
explaining the outward works
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that correlates from
a relationship with Him.
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So Jesus in the Beatitudes
is laying out the foundation
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as to what we need in
order for our experience
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and our
relationship with Him to grow.
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And then as a result,
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He says, "You're
supposed to infiltrate,
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you're supposed to be salt,
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you're supposed to be
a light to the world,"
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which is quite interesting
how Jesus lays that out.
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And that was the verse
that actually popped up,
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you know, for you.
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So Matthew 5:13, the Bible says,
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"You are the salt of the earth,
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but if the salt
loses its flavor,
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how shall it be seasoned?
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It is then good for
nothing but to be thrown out
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and trampled underfoot by men."
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So actually, our
experience should have flavor,
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our experience should
have something that is a value
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to the people that
we come in contact with.
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But the only way
that can, you know,
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you know, take places,
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the relationship
that you have personally
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with Christ is
understanding your need for Him
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praying and laboring and,
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you know, the
forgiveness and the power
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that God wants to give to you,
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that leads us to understand,
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man, God has
called me to actually
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make an impact in the
world that I'm living in.
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And so that's kind of
what's highlighted there
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in Matthew 5:13.
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Yeah, you know, it's...
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And maybe some people
might disagree with me on this,
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but I don't
believe it's ministry
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if you're not creating
relationships with the person,
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you know, if
you're just going out
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and giving food to the homeless,
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but you're not getting
to know their first names.
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You're not, you
know, giving them a hug.
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Yeah. Right?
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Or you're not just
hearing out their story,
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just listening to them.
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It's not ministry,
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you're just going
through some emotions.
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You know, that's why I believe.
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What's so funny
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because Jesus says
the same thing, right?
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Right.
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In verse 20, Jesus on
the Sermon on the Mount,
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He's preaching and breaking
down practical Christianity,
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He's showing the results of it.
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Then He says, you know,
everyone who's hearing this
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is so different from
what they've been hearing.
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You know, we've been
taught you go to church,
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you pay your tithe,
you do all these duties
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and these religious
components in your experience,
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but, you know, what
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there was
lacking was love, right?
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Yeah.
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Jesus says, "Don't think
that I came to change the law
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or the prophets I
didn't come to destroy,
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but to fulfill."
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Romans 13:10 says that
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"Love is a
fulfillment of that law."
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So this law that you
think I'm trampling under,
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actually is I'm exemplifying it.
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You know, as to what I
came to accomplish and fulfill.
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So in Matthew 5:20,
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you know, you're talking about
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that unless services are part
of our Christian experience.
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That's the same
message that Jesus was trying
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to emphasize in
this whole sermon.
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He says, "For I
say," Matthew 5:24,
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"it to you,
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that unless your righteousness
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exceeds that the
righteousness of the scribes
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and the Pharisees,
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you will by no means
enter the kingdom of heaven."
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That's kind of mind blowing.
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Think about
your favorite pastor,
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your favorite evangelist,
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who you look up to spiritually.
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And Jesus says,
unless your righteousness
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exceeds that of your
favorite evangelists or pastor,
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you can't enter into heaven.
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Think of the Mark Finleys
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or Doug Batchelors of the world,
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the people that we admire,
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and look up to it's like,
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man, I can never
be better than them.
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But this is a
key, Matthew 23:2-3.
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Here's how your righteousness
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can exceed that
of the Pharisees,
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which ties into
what you just said,
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"The scribes and
the Pharisees..."
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Matthew 23:2-3,
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"The scribes and the
Pharisees sit in Moses' seat.
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Therefore
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whatever they
tell you to observe,
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that observe and do,
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but do not do according
to their works for they say,
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and they do not do."
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So in other words,
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the problem with the Pharisees
was that they set a whole lot,
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but did very little.
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And that was the point that
Jesus was trying to emphasize.
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So basically, what you're saying
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is they're
professing Christianity,
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but they're not
practicing Christianity.
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So they're not exemplifying
practical Christianity.
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Exactly.
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Which leads to
what Eric was saying,
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unless you're
not doing servicing,
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you're not really experiencing
Christianity as a whole.
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Jesus emphasized that clearly
in the Beatitudes in Matthew 5.
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Right, you know,
the, the acronym for SALT,
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Service and Love Together.
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You know, it's
interesting 'cause, you know,
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some people
look at service like,
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"Oh, that is
love," you know, or, like,
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almost like, it's
always synonymous.
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And that in the
church, you know,
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when we're
ministering to others,
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it's possible to serve
others without love is possible.
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And it's possible to
"Love without service."
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And when I say that in,
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you know, quotations because,
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you know, you go like in James,
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it says, you
know, someone's hungry,
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they asked for food,
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say, go away and
be filled, right?
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And it's like,
that's supposed to be love,
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but that's not love,
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and that's not service
either, I mean, nothing.
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So service and love together,
it needs to be together.
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You know, that's what SALT is.
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Even looking in the Bible,
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you know, when we're looking at
what how Jesus described salt.
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That's what it is. Yeah.
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You know, it's combined. Yeah.
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And so that's actually love.
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Again, going back to
referencing Romans 13:10,
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"The love does no
harm to a neighbor."
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So how is it that
you can see somebody
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who needs and just sit there?
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Well, man, I'll be
praying for you hopefully, that,
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you know, hopefully, you
get some food in your stomach,
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as you have money
in your pocket to give,
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hopefully you find
a place to stay man,
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you know, tonight,
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when you have money
to give for that person
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to stay at a
place for the night.
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So love does no
harm to this neighbor.
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And in conclusion,
Paul says in Romans, right?
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Therefore, in conclusion,
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love is the fulfillment
of that very law, right?
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Everything hangs up on
our relationship with God,
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that ultimately response
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to the last six
how we treat humanity.
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So yeah, service and
love have to be combined
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and it's not service
'cause you can do service
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and get a tax
break and say, "Hey,
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you know, that's the
reason why I'm really serving."
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And people can say
love on the other end
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and not do anything.
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They have to go, you know,
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they have to go together,
they have to go hand in hand.
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Absolutely, it's just like
how faith without works is dead.
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Right. Right.
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If you have and
somebody is in need,
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and you're saying, "Well,
you know, I'll pray for them."
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They're freezing,
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they're freezing
outside, with no coat.
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You have 15
coats in your closet,
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and you're like, "Well,
you know, I'll pray for you."
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I hope I'll pray.
I hope you get warm.
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You pray for them, yes.
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But also give them that coat,
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you know, make
sure that you help them.
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There's a verse,
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there's a couple
verses in Matthew 2,
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and I don't remember
exactly where they are.
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But it was like,
Jesus was saying,
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you know, when I
was naked, you clothed?
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Matthew 25. Matthew 25.
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Yes. When I was
hungry, you fed me.
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When I was in
prison, you visited me,
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you know, like,
those are deep words,
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you know, 'cause it's like,
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"Well, when did
I do that to you?"
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You know, and so
yeah, that is key.
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Yeah.
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But on the flip side, in
that very chapter, right?
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When did we?
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Well, that's one group,
but the other groups says,
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"Well, you never
told us, when did you,
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you know, Lord,
Lord, didn't we?"
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And God says, "Yeah,
you said a whole lot,
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but you did very little,"
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you know, you
didn't get the bulletin,
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you know, you didn't get the
announcement in the bulletin.
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So that's the
reason why you didn't go,
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it wasn't
something that was a part
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of your everyday experience
to really go help out,
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you know, those who are in need.
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And so, at the end of the day,
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those who are
saved, those who are lost,
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the works
component doesn't save you.
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It's the connection
that you have with Christ
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that leads you to want to
do service for other people.
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And so this is why
God says, you know,
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"Depart from me those
who workers of iniquity."
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In other words you're
doing a whole lot of things
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where you're not really
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making a difference in
the lives of the people
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that you come in contact with.
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Yeah. Right.
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And that's how He separates
the sheep from the goats,
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those who did it out
of love for their master,
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and those who did it
out of mere obligation
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thinking they're gonna
get something in return.
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Yeah, like we can do good
things for the wrong motives.
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Right, right. Yeah.
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What's the root and
like you guys are saying,
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Matthew 25, really,
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it seems like in that section,
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that is the point when
we look at like the goats,
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for example, you
know, in Matthew 25,
00:20:02.36\00:20:06.74
starting in verse 44, right?
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The ones that are righteous say,
00:20:10.24\00:20:13.54
you know, oh, when did
we do this to you, right?
00:20:13.58\00:20:16.61
And they did it
almost naturally.
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It came so natural to them.
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Well, the people on, the goats,
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they said in verse 44
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"Then they also
will answer Him, saying,
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'Lord, when did we
see You hungry or thirsty
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or a stranger or
naked or sick or in prison,
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and did not minister to You?'
00:20:30.43\00:20:32.19
" So they also perform the
same works as the righteous,
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but the difference
was, what was the root?
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Was it out of love or not?
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For them, they were like,
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but wait a minute, we
did this every single time,
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when did we not do this?
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While the righteous were like,
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what, when did we do this?
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It was a part of the... It
was just so natural to them.
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It was second nature. Right.
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You know, Edgar E.
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Guest says that
I'd rather see a sermon
00:20:54.32\00:20:56.45
than hear on any day.
00:20:56.48\00:20:57.82
So these are the
people that actually practice
00:20:57.85\00:20:59.45
what they preach,
00:20:59.49\00:21:00.82
they actually did what
was in the hearts to do,
00:21:00.86\00:21:04.13
and as a whole
that was God's desire
00:21:04.16\00:21:06.29
for the people of Israel
00:21:06.33\00:21:07.73
was for you to be a
light to the Gentiles.
00:21:07.76\00:21:09.93
The people have a
misconception of who God is.
00:21:09.96\00:21:13.13
God is defined as love,
00:21:13.17\00:21:14.87
yet they only see you
as this group of people
00:21:14.90\00:21:17.71
who has a whole bunch of rules,
00:21:17.74\00:21:19.07
and regulations,
and restrictions.
00:21:19.11\00:21:21.01
I'm not a God like
that, I'm a God who liberates,
00:21:21.04\00:21:23.51
I'm a God who
gives freedom and joy,
00:21:23.55\00:21:25.98
and so I, my desire for
you in Isaiah Chapter 49,
00:21:26.01\00:21:29.42
I believe, God says,
00:21:29.45\00:21:30.79
"My desire for my
nation is to be the glory,
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to be the light to the Gentiles,
00:21:32.99\00:21:34.52
the non-believers
00:21:34.56\00:21:36.02
that ultimately I want your work
00:21:36.06\00:21:37.86
supersede the relationship
that I have with you.
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And that's when the people
00:21:40.36\00:21:41.70
who are non-believers
will actually believe
00:21:41.73\00:21:43.53
that I am the God of the Bible."
00:21:43.57\00:21:45.50
So... Yeah.
00:21:45.53\00:21:47.00
Yeah, so let me ask
you guys this question.
00:21:47.04\00:21:51.17
How has working in ministry,
00:21:51.21\00:21:53.44
how has being
heavily involved in SALT
00:21:53.48\00:21:59.01
transformed your lives?
00:21:59.05\00:22:01.85
You know, I honestly and
I've said this to some people
00:22:01.88\00:22:06.69
as well,
00:22:06.72\00:22:08.19
if it wasn't for SALT,
00:22:08.22\00:22:09.56
if God did not put
me where I am right now,
00:22:09.59\00:22:12.19
I believe He
placed me, you know,
00:22:12.23\00:22:13.80
I believe He had the vision.
00:22:13.83\00:22:15.30
This is His ministry.
00:22:15.33\00:22:16.97
He just, I'm
just trying to follow
00:22:17.00\00:22:19.43
in what He has for me.
00:22:19.47\00:22:21.27
And if it wasn't for
this, I don't know where I'd be,
00:22:21.30\00:22:24.21
you know, I want to say
00:22:24.24\00:22:28.74
like, I might be lost,
00:22:28.78\00:22:31.58
I might have been
lost, you know, I was so...
00:22:31.61\00:22:34.15
When I first came into...
00:22:34.18\00:22:36.22
You know this started a year
after I came into the church,
00:22:36.25\00:22:38.35
you know.
00:22:38.39\00:22:39.72
There was still so much
sin that was affecting my life
00:22:39.75\00:22:42.39
and that was still just taking
over my life at that time,
00:22:42.42\00:22:45.89
even after baptism.
00:22:45.93\00:22:47.26
'Cause everyone
thinks, oh, you got baptized,
00:22:47.30\00:22:49.06
you're perfect, you
guys up from the water,
00:22:49.10\00:22:51.57
you're ready for translation,
00:22:51.60\00:22:53.00
you know, but that's
not how it is, you know.
00:22:53.03\00:22:55.54
And so, when getting so
deeply involved in service
00:22:55.57\00:22:59.67
where it
literally takes up my mind,
00:22:59.71\00:23:01.88
like my mind space,
00:23:01.91\00:23:03.81
every moment, you know,
you're thinking about it,
00:23:03.85\00:23:06.82
it transforms your character.
00:23:06.85\00:23:10.05
You know, I believe
the Bible teaches that too,
00:23:10.09\00:23:13.15
you know, and
when it comes to that,
00:23:13.19\00:23:14.92
but yeah, it's
really has transformed me.
00:23:14.96\00:23:16.99
Yeah, and service is actually,
00:23:17.03\00:23:18.59
when God designed
00:23:18.63\00:23:20.13
and He talks about
us being a part of the,
00:23:20.16\00:23:23.43
of the great commission, right?
00:23:23.47\00:23:24.80
And being a part of
helping those who are in need.
00:23:24.83\00:23:28.20
Jesus says, you know,
00:23:28.24\00:23:29.70
"I designed this method not
as a way for you to be saved,
00:23:29.74\00:23:33.48
but a way for, you know,
00:23:33.51\00:23:34.84
to reveal truly
what's in your heart."
00:23:34.88\00:23:37.75
I can remember countless
times where we have events
00:23:37.78\00:23:40.28
or, you know,
whether I'm preaching
00:23:40.32\00:23:41.68
or, you know, just
doing community service,
00:23:41.72\00:23:44.09
and I don't want to be here,
00:23:44.12\00:23:45.45
it's hot, it's
annoying, I'm hungry.
00:23:45.49\00:23:47.22
And God reminds
you at that moment,
00:23:47.26\00:23:48.86
like you see
how selfish you are,
00:23:48.89\00:23:50.23
you see how self-centered,
00:23:50.26\00:23:51.59
even while you're doing service.
00:23:51.63\00:23:52.96
And so is it those
moments that I realized,
00:23:52.99\00:23:54.80
man, it's far more than just
this intellectual stimulation
00:23:54.83\00:23:58.60
that I'm getting
from my devotions
00:23:58.63\00:23:59.97
or just praying a prayer says,
00:24:00.00\00:24:01.34
"Lord, forgive me for my sins."
00:24:01.37\00:24:02.70
God says, "You become
so absorbed in yourself
00:24:02.74\00:24:05.54
that I've
designed service for you
00:24:05.57\00:24:06.91
to kind of
uproot the selfishness."
00:24:06.94\00:24:08.34
Because everything in
our Christian experience
00:24:08.38\00:24:11.48
should be
selflessness and not selfishness
00:24:11.51\00:24:13.88
and that's what
service is about.
00:24:13.92\00:24:15.25
So when Eric is talking about,
00:24:15.28\00:24:17.39
yeah, if it wasn't for ministry,
00:24:17.42\00:24:19.35
I'll be lost is the same thing.
00:24:19.39\00:24:20.79
If I wasn't involved
in evangelism or ministry,
00:24:20.82\00:24:23.43
I don't know what I'll
be doing with myself, right?
00:24:23.46\00:24:25.33
Because God is
constantly putting me
00:24:25.36\00:24:27.06
through the fire
of "tribulation."
00:24:27.10\00:24:30.07
And I say that to the sense of
00:24:30.10\00:24:31.87
God is constantly
revealing something about myself
00:24:31.90\00:24:33.87
that I would not have known
00:24:33.90\00:24:35.34
if I wasn't actively engaging
in some sort of ministry.
00:24:35.37\00:24:39.11
Yeah, you know,
when you were talking
00:24:39.14\00:24:41.44
it made me think
of John Chapter 6.
00:24:41.48\00:24:43.95
When, you know,
Jesus is talking about,
00:24:43.98\00:24:47.75
you know, eat My
flesh and drink My blood,
00:24:47.78\00:24:50.42
but He was talking
figuratively in those...
00:24:50.45\00:24:53.66
There are some
people following Him
00:24:53.69\00:24:55.02
that did not understand, right?
00:24:55.06\00:24:56.39
And then they ended up leaving.
00:24:56.42\00:24:58.56
And, you know,
00:24:58.59\00:25:01.13
He turns, I just
see it in my mind,
00:25:01.16\00:25:03.26
so I see Him turn to Peter.
00:25:03.30\00:25:05.40
And, you know, in that
chapter, He asked Peter,
00:25:05.43\00:25:08.60
"Basically, are
you gonna leave too?"
00:25:08.64\00:25:10.81
And Peter says,
"Where am I gonna go?"
00:25:10.84\00:25:14.74
You have the
words of eternal life,
00:25:14.78\00:25:16.31
where do I go?
00:25:16.34\00:25:17.68
You know, and
that's how I feel now,
00:25:17.71\00:25:19.18
you know, being so
engaged in ministry.
00:25:19.21\00:25:22.05
It's like,
00:25:22.08\00:25:23.42
if you're not doing
this, then what are you doing?
00:25:23.45\00:25:25.72
Yeah. You know, what do you...
00:25:25.75\00:25:27.62
You know, so that's just...
00:25:27.66\00:25:28.99
And that's kind of like
00:25:29.02\00:25:30.36
a reflection of
our church, right?
00:25:30.39\00:25:31.73
We go to prayer
meeting or Sabbath school
00:25:31.76\00:25:33.53
and we have these testimonies
is it's dry, drawn out.
00:25:33.56\00:25:36.87
Oh, I remember
back then, back when,
00:25:36.90\00:25:39.13
when God says, "My
experience with you
00:25:39.17\00:25:40.87
should have been 20 years ago,
00:25:40.90\00:25:42.24
it should be an experience
that you're having now".
00:25:42.27\00:25:44.87
And God says,
"Listen, greater works
00:25:44.91\00:25:47.11
I want to do in
you than I've done
00:25:47.14\00:25:48.64
while I was here on earth."
00:25:48.68\00:25:50.28
Well, how are we going
to be able to participate
00:25:50.31\00:25:52.61
or partake in those miracles,
00:25:52.65\00:25:54.55
if we're not
actively engaging, right?
00:25:54.58\00:25:56.58
God never called
us to play defense,
00:25:56.62\00:25:58.95
always called
us to play offense.
00:25:58.99\00:26:00.32
He wants us to go out,
00:26:00.36\00:26:01.69
go, go, go, go,
that's the command.
00:26:01.72\00:26:03.59
He never says preserve yourself
00:26:03.63\00:26:04.96
and the way that
you preserve yourself
00:26:04.99\00:26:06.93
is actually to go
00:26:06.96\00:26:08.30
and do what God has
commanded you to do.
00:26:08.33\00:26:09.90
And so that's kind of the theme
00:26:09.93\00:26:11.53
all throughout the
Old and the New Testament.
00:26:11.57\00:26:13.27
Jesus is constantly
reminding His people,
00:26:13.30\00:26:16.50
listen,
00:26:16.54\00:26:18.24
the way that you overcome sin,
00:26:18.27\00:26:19.61
the way that you
draw closer to Me
00:26:19.64\00:26:21.58
is actually feeding My
lambs, feeding My sheep,
00:26:21.61\00:26:24.71
going out and doing
what I asked you to do,
00:26:24.75\00:26:26.15
that's where
you're going to know
00:26:26.18\00:26:27.52
the true heart of humanity,
00:26:27.55\00:26:29.12
then you start
seeing what Jesus sees.
00:26:29.15\00:26:31.72
Man, Lord, like this person
is going through so much trials
00:26:31.75\00:26:35.36
yet they're rejoicing?
00:26:35.39\00:26:36.73
Why is it that I have everything
00:26:36.76\00:26:38.09
and I can't seem to be
happy in my experience?
00:26:38.13\00:26:39.69
Those are the little
things like Jesus says,
00:26:39.73\00:26:41.53
we may not look
at it as a miracle.
00:26:41.56\00:26:42.90
But for me, it's like, man,
00:26:42.93\00:26:44.27
Lord, I would have
never seen that if I didn't,
00:26:44.30\00:26:46.10
you know, have that
personal relationship with You
00:26:46.13\00:26:49.34
to actually go and
do what You said to do,
00:26:49.37\00:26:51.51
which in essence
is really what God is,
00:26:51.54\00:26:54.74
what desires and wants us to,
00:26:54.78\00:26:57.75
you know, to experience.
00:26:57.78\00:26:59.45
Right. That's really deep.
00:26:59.48\00:27:00.82
Because I mean, there
are a lot of people out there
00:27:00.85\00:27:02.45
that are searching,
you know, they're empty,
00:27:02.48\00:27:04.35
they feel that emptiness.
00:27:04.39\00:27:06.15
And, you know, some people think
00:27:06.19\00:27:07.72
that they can
replace it with things
00:27:07.76\00:27:09.62
or money is gonna
make the difference,
00:27:09.66\00:27:12.29
or, you know,
whatever the case may be,
00:27:12.33\00:27:15.30
but what I'm hearing
from you guys is that,
00:27:15.33\00:27:17.50
you know, you
found your purpose,
00:27:17.53\00:27:19.03
you found your calling in life,
00:27:19.07\00:27:21.00
and there's nothing else
that you would rather be doing.
00:27:21.04\00:27:23.51
There's nothing else
00:27:23.54\00:27:24.87
that you can even
envision yourself doing,
00:27:24.91\00:27:27.21
other than what
God's called you to do.
00:27:27.24\00:27:29.14
Right. That's powerful.
00:27:29.18\00:27:30.71
It's the most
hardest, difficult,
00:27:30.75\00:27:32.61
most fulfilling and rewarding,
00:27:32.65\00:27:35.42
the thing you can do
it in all seriousness,
00:27:35.45\00:27:37.19
you know, it's something that...
00:27:37.22\00:27:39.72
God is calling for something
greater than ourselves.
00:27:39.75\00:27:42.26
And yeah, man, if
it wasn't for ministry,
00:27:42.29\00:27:43.86
is it difficult?
00:27:43.89\00:27:45.23
Yeah. Is it easy to do?
00:27:45.26\00:27:46.59
Absolutely not, you know,
00:27:46.63\00:27:47.96
like, there's gonna be things
that you're gonna experience.
00:27:48.00\00:27:49.86
But at the end of the day,
00:27:49.90\00:27:51.27
it's the most
fulfilling and rewarding thing
00:27:51.30\00:27:53.23
that you can do.
00:27:53.27\00:27:54.60
And so I always
encourage people,
00:27:54.64\00:27:55.97
especially my appeals,
00:27:56.00\00:27:57.34
when I'm speaking to young
adults or just older alike,
00:27:57.37\00:28:00.78
go and do
something great for God,
00:28:00.81\00:28:02.84
and you're gonna see God perform
00:28:02.88\00:28:04.95
great and mighty
things in your life.
00:28:04.98\00:28:06.82
And that's how you're going
to draw close to the Christ
00:28:06.85\00:28:08.75
during those
moments where you're seeing
00:28:08.78\00:28:10.29
the need of the people and so,
00:28:10.32\00:28:12.12
yeah, nothing else,
00:28:12.15\00:28:13.99
what I rather be doing
than what I'm currently doing.
00:28:14.02\00:28:16.22
Absolutely.
00:28:16.26\00:28:17.59
How did you find
your purpose in life?
00:28:17.63\00:28:21.53
That's the question?
00:28:21.56\00:28:23.30
Yes, that's the...
00:28:23.33\00:28:24.67
As a young adult, you
know, you go to any retreat,
00:28:24.70\00:28:28.10
any conference,
00:28:28.14\00:28:30.01
you know, what is your purpose
00:28:30.04\00:28:31.37
that conference room is full.
00:28:31.41\00:28:34.94
No, but, you know, the way...
00:28:34.98\00:28:38.65
It's funny, the way
that it happened was.
00:28:38.68\00:28:41.02
I was studying and
it comes from the Word,
00:28:41.05\00:28:43.69
you know, at the end of
the day prayer and the Word.
00:28:43.72\00:28:45.95
God will tell you
what it is you have to do.
00:28:45.99\00:28:48.39
You know, I remember
when before SALT started,
00:28:48.42\00:28:51.59
I was studying John Chapter 4,
00:28:51.63\00:28:53.60
and, you know, you have
the woman at the well in that,
00:28:53.63\00:28:56.50
you know, in
that chapter and so,
00:28:56.53\00:28:59.83
you know, I
remember at that time,
00:28:59.87\00:29:01.20
God had just revealed to me that
00:29:01.24\00:29:02.87
I need to be a pastor,
00:29:02.90\00:29:04.81
you know, I needed to
lead His people, right?
00:29:04.84\00:29:07.38
And so, I'm
studying this chapter and,
00:29:07.41\00:29:09.61
you know, before
that I'm thinking,
00:29:09.64\00:29:10.98
man, when I graduate school,
00:29:11.01\00:29:12.38
I'm gonna go to school now
that God's confirmed that to me,
00:29:12.41\00:29:15.35
going to school, and
then after four years,
00:29:15.38\00:29:18.02
I'm gonna do these
great things for God, right?
00:29:18.05\00:29:20.32
And that was my mindset.
00:29:20.36\00:29:21.92
So I was studying John Chapter 4
00:29:21.96\00:29:23.83
and you look at
Jesus with the disciples.
00:29:23.86\00:29:26.90
Disciples went into the
city to buy food, right?
00:29:26.93\00:29:29.80
Then Jesus is
speaking to this woman,
00:29:29.83\00:29:32.20
the disciples come back
from the city bringing nothing,
00:29:32.23\00:29:34.70
they just had food with them,
which is what they went to get.
00:29:34.74\00:29:37.14
The woman goes into the city
00:29:37.17\00:29:38.51
brings the whole town to Christ.
00:29:38.54\00:29:41.44
And Christ looks at
the disciples and says,
00:29:41.48\00:29:43.88
"You think the
harvest is months from now.
00:29:43.91\00:29:46.61
No, the harvest is now."
00:29:46.65\00:29:48.28
And the reason why He said that
00:29:48.32\00:29:50.29
is because the disciples
were looking at a future time.
00:29:50.32\00:29:53.25
They were looking at the time
00:29:53.29\00:29:54.62
that Jesus
would be on the throne
00:29:54.66\00:29:56.42
and lead and oh,
man, when that time comes,
00:29:56.46\00:29:59.23
and when there's so many great
things for Christ so excited.
00:29:59.26\00:30:02.23
So their eyes were
fixed on this future time.
00:30:02.26\00:30:05.93
We have to stop that,
00:30:05.97\00:30:07.30
we have to stop
looking at this future time.
00:30:07.34\00:30:09.77
We need to look at now
00:30:09.80\00:30:11.37
and as we're looking at
now, now, God, what can I do?
00:30:11.41\00:30:14.91
We need to be in the
Word, we need to be in prayer,
00:30:14.94\00:30:17.45
we need to be
communicating with people,
00:30:17.48\00:30:19.11
talking to people,
God will reveal it.
00:30:19.15\00:30:21.78
I know He will,
00:30:21.82\00:30:23.15
but I think what
happens is us millennials
00:30:23.18\00:30:26.89
give up too soon.
00:30:26.92\00:30:28.29
We don't have much patience,
00:30:28.32\00:30:30.53
and so, you know, we
go a week or something
00:30:30.56\00:30:33.46
and we're like, oh,
man, like, you know,
00:30:33.50\00:30:35.70
God hasn't spoken to me yet.
00:30:35.73\00:30:37.27
No, we got to keep going.
00:30:37.30\00:30:38.73
Yeah, that persistence.
00:30:38.77\00:30:40.34
Yeah, exactly. Yes.
00:30:40.37\00:30:41.70
Exactly, until He answered.
00:30:41.74\00:30:43.17
So how did you recognize
that it was your purpose?
00:30:43.20\00:30:46.74
Like how, you know,
00:30:46.78\00:30:48.11
because there's
trying to figure out
00:30:48.14\00:30:50.08
what your purpose is,
00:30:50.11\00:30:51.61
but then you also have to listen
00:30:51.65\00:30:53.88
and see what God is telling you.
00:30:53.92\00:30:55.28
How did you recognize
that this was your purpose?
00:30:55.32\00:30:59.55
You know,
00:30:59.59\00:31:01.72
recognize that
it was my purpose.
00:31:01.76\00:31:03.43
I think I
recognized it being my purpose
00:31:03.46\00:31:07.00
when it consumed
all of my thoughts,
00:31:07.03\00:31:11.47
you know, it consumed everything
00:31:11.50\00:31:13.74
I did in my life.
00:31:13.77\00:31:15.10
The reason why I went
to school to get my masters
00:31:15.14\00:31:16.47
in non-profit management,
00:31:16.50\00:31:18.04
it wasn't to get a
job at a nonprofit,
00:31:18.07\00:31:20.18
it was to help better,
00:31:20.21\00:31:21.54
equip me to run
the nonprofit ministry
00:31:21.58\00:31:23.61
that God had
put me in charge of.
00:31:23.65\00:31:25.11
Yes. That's it.
00:31:25.15\00:31:26.48
It didn't, you know, a
lot of time we go to school,
00:31:26.51\00:31:28.25
'cause there's certain
career we have in mind.
00:31:28.28\00:31:30.49
This is for the ministry.
00:31:30.52\00:31:31.85
You know, I studied social work,
00:31:31.89\00:31:33.29
so I could
learn case management.
00:31:33.32\00:31:34.66
So we implement case
management in the nonprofit,
00:31:34.69\00:31:37.19
I know how to do that.
00:31:37.23\00:31:39.06
It consumes your life,
00:31:39.09\00:31:40.73
everything that
you do in your life
00:31:40.76\00:31:42.53
is the purpose is
for that's what...
00:31:42.56\00:31:49.10
Everything is
guided toward that purpose.
00:31:49.14\00:31:51.34
You know, what I mean,
00:31:51.37\00:31:52.74
and so that's,
that's how I know.
00:31:52.77\00:31:54.74
And I think, other people can
relate to that too, you know.
00:31:54.78\00:31:59.55
Yeah, and you know,
00:31:59.58\00:32:00.92
just to piggyback
off what Eric is saying,
00:32:00.95\00:32:02.28
I think it's the same
thing in my experience as well.
00:32:02.32\00:32:04.55
It wasn't, you know, you
kind of grew up in the church,
00:32:04.59\00:32:06.79
knowing what it means to
be a good Christian, right?
00:32:06.82\00:32:09.12
All of the things that
you need to do and don't do.
00:32:09.16\00:32:11.39
And so, you know,
00:32:11.43\00:32:12.83
early on in my life was
my passion was basketball,
00:32:12.86\00:32:15.06
my passion was music,
my passion was partying,
00:32:15.10\00:32:17.60
having a good
time getting money,
00:32:17.63\00:32:18.97
all of these other things.
00:32:19.00\00:32:20.34
And for the time
being, it was enjoyable,
00:32:20.37\00:32:22.54
but then you realize
there's this emptiness,
00:32:22.57\00:32:24.07
it doesn't matter how much more,
00:32:24.11\00:32:25.61
you do of this one thing,
00:32:25.64\00:32:26.98
you always find
yourself even more depressed,
00:32:27.01\00:32:29.64
even more lonely,
even more, you know,
00:32:29.68\00:32:32.11
a deeper desire
for something more.
00:32:32.15\00:32:34.28
And so even for myself
when I entered into ministry,
00:32:34.32\00:32:37.35
at first, it wasn't like,
oh, you had a clear cut answer,
00:32:37.39\00:32:39.45
yeah, God is
calling me to be a pastor,
00:32:39.49\00:32:40.86
or a chaplain,
or a Bible teacher.
00:32:40.89\00:32:42.92
You kind of just take a step
of, a leap of faith and saying,
00:32:42.96\00:32:45.59
all right, this is a
door that God is calling me
00:32:45.63\00:32:47.20
to go through.
00:32:47.23\00:32:48.73
And then you go
through it, you know,
00:32:48.76\00:32:50.13
faithfully and
as time progresses,
00:32:50.17\00:32:52.93
you realize this is
what God called me to do.
00:32:52.97\00:32:55.70
This is what God called.
00:32:55.74\00:32:57.21
Man, I want...
00:32:57.24\00:32:58.57
You know, now, that one thing
00:32:58.61\00:33:00.58
that you didn't
know was your purpose,
00:33:00.61\00:33:02.71
now becomes your purpose
00:33:02.74\00:33:04.08
and it literally
consumes you like to the point
00:33:04.11\00:33:06.11
that times we
don't go to bed on time,
00:33:06.15\00:33:08.25
we don't eat
properly, we just because
00:33:08.28\00:33:09.68
we're focusing so
much on how can we better
00:33:09.72\00:33:13.05
you know, the
calling and the purpose
00:33:13.09\00:33:15.22
that God has given me.
00:33:15.26\00:33:16.59
And so, you know,
there has to be balanced,
00:33:16.62\00:33:18.06
obviously, but
that's when you know,
00:33:18.09\00:33:20.80
if you wake up in the morning,
00:33:20.83\00:33:22.16
and you realize, I'm
willing to do this thing,
00:33:22.20\00:33:25.23
and not get one cent for it,
00:33:25.27\00:33:26.60
but it will give
me my fulfillment.
00:33:26.63\00:33:29.40
You know, you
found your calling,
00:33:29.44\00:33:30.77
you found your purpose in life.
00:33:30.81\00:33:32.14
Yeah, that's a good measurement.
00:33:32.17\00:33:33.51
Yeah, that is because I can
honestly say that about this.
00:33:33.54\00:33:36.51
I would do this for nothing.
00:33:36.54\00:33:37.95
Right. Yeah.
00:33:37.98\00:33:39.31
Nothing. Right.
00:33:39.35\00:33:40.82
You know, there
are a lot of people
00:33:40.85\00:33:42.18
who are looking for
that, who want that.
00:33:42.22\00:33:46.32
And I think the
key is, to first,
00:33:46.35\00:33:48.89
seek ye first
the kingdom of God.
00:33:48.92\00:33:51.19
You know, and all these
things shall be added unto you.
00:33:51.23\00:33:53.26
Right.
00:33:53.29\00:33:56.00
It's a blessing to like...
00:33:56.03\00:33:59.33
I remember when I
first met you guys, right?
00:33:59.37\00:34:03.30
And I was looking at your booth
00:34:03.34\00:34:06.68
'cause I think
we're at ASI or GYC.
00:34:06.71\00:34:08.58
GYC, I think, yeah.
00:34:08.61\00:34:10.21
And I was looking at your booth,
00:34:10.25\00:34:12.01
and I was looking
at the different cycles
00:34:12.05\00:34:14.55
and the practical Christianity
00:34:14.58\00:34:17.19
and how it ended in evangelism.
00:34:17.22\00:34:19.95
And I was just,
I was blown away.
00:34:19.99\00:34:21.99
I was like, okay, so
there's these young guys that,
00:34:22.02\00:34:26.19
you know, are allowing
the Lord to work through them
00:34:26.23\00:34:29.00
in such a mighty way.
00:34:29.03\00:34:31.90
What are some of the challenges
00:34:31.93\00:34:33.77
that you guys have
faced within ministry?
00:34:33.80\00:34:37.11
Well, I wanna kind of, you know,
00:34:37.14\00:34:39.14
continue with this line of,
00:34:39.17\00:34:40.64
you know, that line of
thought that you brought up.
00:34:40.68\00:34:42.64
Because when we did first meet,
00:34:42.68\00:34:44.35
we had like this
small little booth,
00:34:44.38\00:34:46.01
we had most of the stuff
was just kind of a vision
00:34:46.05\00:34:48.25
and idea as to
what we wanted to do.
00:34:48.28\00:34:50.95
And to see how God has opened up
00:34:50.99\00:34:52.69
so many doors and fulfilled
00:34:52.72\00:34:54.86
a lot of those
dreams that we had.
00:34:54.89\00:34:57.53
Two years later, were
just mind blown by like,
00:34:57.56\00:35:00.76
a vision now becomes a reality.
00:35:00.80\00:35:02.16
Oh, yeah.
00:35:02.20\00:35:03.53
And the
difficulty of it is that,
00:35:03.57\00:35:05.30
you know, there's no...
00:35:05.33\00:35:06.67
Sometimes we limit God
as to what He can do for us,
00:35:06.70\00:35:09.50
instead of realizing that
we serve a big and mighty God.
00:35:09.54\00:35:12.57
The difficulty is that
00:35:12.61\00:35:13.94
not everyone is
bought into that vision,
00:35:13.98\00:35:15.58
not everyone sees that.
00:35:15.61\00:35:17.35
The 80-20 thing is, you know,
00:35:17.38\00:35:18.91
80% of the work is being
done by 20% of the workers.
00:35:18.95\00:35:21.92
And so for us at
least without volunteers,
00:35:21.95\00:35:24.52
and leaders, you know,
00:35:24.55\00:35:26.12
as time progresses, you
know, people get married,
00:35:26.15\00:35:28.42
you know,
careers they move, and,
00:35:28.46\00:35:30.23
and so we always
have to like plug
00:35:30.26\00:35:32.36
new people into
those positions...
00:35:32.39\00:35:34.36
We constantly have
to recruit leaders.
00:35:34.40\00:35:35.96
Constantly. And so...
00:35:36.00\00:35:38.63
But the hard part,
at least for me, when,
00:35:38.67\00:35:40.30
you know, do week of
prayers and evangelism
00:35:40.34\00:35:42.57
and revival weekends, is this,
00:35:42.60\00:35:45.07
we've gotten comfortable.
00:35:45.11\00:35:47.04
Not just with the
young adults, but you know,
00:35:47.08\00:35:49.08
as church as a whole,
00:35:49.11\00:35:50.45
we just gotten
comfortable where we're at.
00:35:50.48\00:35:52.21
And we rather
have people come to us,
00:35:52.25\00:35:53.78
instead of doing
the hard work of really
00:35:53.82\00:35:55.95
getting to make and make
those connections and so.
00:35:55.98\00:35:58.59
At least for me, my
experience is saying,
00:35:58.62\00:36:00.12
man, you can
preach a powerful raw,
00:36:00.16\00:36:02.99
raw message and people
are like, yes, stirred up,
00:36:03.02\00:36:04.79
and then when it
actually comes down to do it,
00:36:04.83\00:36:07.53
there's no one there.
00:36:07.56\00:36:08.90
You know what I'm saying.
00:36:08.93\00:36:10.27
And so that's been, for me
the hardest part in saying,
00:36:10.30\00:36:12.57
Lord, there's so much
that needs to be done,
00:36:12.60\00:36:16.07
but You've even
said it Yourself,
00:36:16.10\00:36:18.07
that the laborers are so few.
00:36:18.11\00:36:20.11
And so, you know,
we want to inspire
00:36:20.14\00:36:22.61
as inspires many young people.
00:36:22.64\00:36:24.91
Even those that young
at heart just realize,
00:36:24.95\00:36:27.82
if you're engaged in this work
00:36:27.85\00:36:29.32
that God has commissioned us to,
00:36:29.35\00:36:30.92
you know, to be engaged in,
00:36:30.95\00:36:32.29
is not only
gonna change your life,
00:36:32.32\00:36:33.66
you're gonna see
miracles transformed,
00:36:33.69\00:36:35.02
but most importantly,
00:36:35.06\00:36:36.39
you fulfilling a greater mission
00:36:36.42\00:36:37.89
and purpose of what
God wants to establish.
00:36:37.93\00:36:39.89
And the end of the day,
00:36:39.93\00:36:41.26
He called us to
reflect His character.
00:36:41.30\00:36:44.20
And that's
something much greater
00:36:44.23\00:36:45.90
than we can ever imagine, right?
00:36:45.93\00:36:47.80
Like, little sinful Lo-Ammi is
00:36:47.84\00:36:50.17
going to develop a character
00:36:50.21\00:36:52.34
through my relationship with Him
00:36:52.37\00:36:53.71
and fulfilling His
desire of ministering to those.
00:36:53.74\00:36:57.85
He's gonna
develop something in me
00:36:57.88\00:37:00.08
that I can't even
see myself developing.
00:37:00.12\00:37:02.18
So that's for me, it
has on the spiritual element
00:37:02.22\00:37:04.89
been the most
difficult part with this or,
00:37:04.92\00:37:08.49
you know, with just
00:37:08.52\00:37:09.86
what we're trying to do is
just the lack of volunteers,
00:37:09.89\00:37:12.83
and, you know, the
ownership of saying,
00:37:12.86\00:37:14.36
yes, let's buy in
this, let's do it.
00:37:14.40\00:37:16.00
Yeah. And so on and so forth.
00:37:16.03\00:37:17.70
I will say, now,
if I can plug this in,
00:37:17.73\00:37:20.54
the leadership we have now,
00:37:20.57\00:37:24.71
you know, is our
dedicated, you know...
00:37:24.74\00:37:30.45
I can't even...
00:37:30.48\00:37:31.91
They're sold out.
00:37:31.95\00:37:33.28
You know, they're sold out.
00:37:33.31\00:37:35.75
You know, they all work jobs
00:37:35.78\00:37:37.12
and none of us
doing this full-time.
00:37:37.15\00:37:38.49
You know, they're all,
00:37:38.52\00:37:39.85
they're
students working or both,
00:37:39.89\00:37:41.22
you know, and they put
in that time, that effort,
00:37:41.26\00:37:44.39
you know, they inspire me.
00:37:44.43\00:37:45.79
You know, some of them are like,
00:37:45.83\00:37:47.46
you know, they're at work doing,
00:37:47.50\00:37:49.16
I'm getting, I'm at
work, and they're at work,
00:37:49.20\00:37:52.03
and they're
sending me texts, emails,
00:37:52.07\00:37:54.00
"Hey, what about
this? What about that?"
00:37:54.04\00:37:56.14
Talking about SALT, you know,
that's been such a blessing.
00:37:56.17\00:38:01.74
You know, the team we
have now is a strong team,
00:38:01.78\00:38:04.15
but we need more.
00:38:04.18\00:38:05.88
We need more people and,
00:38:05.91\00:38:08.32
you know, hopefully,
you know, as God continues.
00:38:08.35\00:38:11.09
Now that I'm out of school,
00:38:11.12\00:38:12.45
I'm really excited because
now my full evening is not,
00:38:12.49\00:38:15.32
you know, get off of work,
work on homework till midnight,
00:38:15.36\00:38:18.49
and then do SALT
things in between.
00:38:18.53\00:38:20.93
You know what I mean.
00:38:20.96\00:38:23.16
How my evening is going
to be, you know, at SALT.
00:38:23.20\00:38:25.27
So you notice how,
now that I have free time,
00:38:25.30\00:38:26.97
I'm gonna dedicate
even more time to SALT.
00:38:27.00\00:38:29.37
So this brother,
he's dedicated for sure.
00:38:29.40\00:38:32.11
But at the end of the day,
00:38:32.14\00:38:33.48
imagine that being
duplicated by 100 people,
00:38:33.51\00:38:35.84
by 300 people, 5,000 people.
00:38:35.88\00:38:39.18
We wouldn't be here,
like the work will be done.
00:38:39.21\00:38:41.38
So, you know...
00:38:41.42\00:38:43.28
Yeah, I was thinking maybe,
00:38:43.32\00:38:45.89
you know, one thing
as you mentioned that,
00:38:45.92\00:38:47.89
I was thinking about
the first time we came on.
00:38:47.92\00:38:50.33
Because that was around
the time we first met you.
00:38:50.36\00:38:52.39
A lot of that
stuff was a vision,
00:38:52.43\00:38:54.16
you know, and now
it's become reality.
00:38:54.20\00:38:56.46
We actually have
some pictures. Yeah.
00:38:56.50\00:38:58.17
That our show kind of
how it's progressed and,
00:38:58.20\00:39:00.40
you know, because
the viewers here at 3ABN,
00:39:00.44\00:39:03.97
they have donated.
00:39:04.01\00:39:05.54
Yeah.
00:39:05.57\00:39:06.91
They've caught on to the vision,
00:39:06.94\00:39:08.28
you know, and so many...
00:39:08.31\00:39:09.94
It doesn't matter
if it's a $5 donation,
00:39:09.98\00:39:12.51
or if it's, you know,
00:39:12.55\00:39:14.05
we had one
person donate $16,500.
00:39:14.08\00:39:16.65
If you were here on 3ABN 16,500
00:39:16.69\00:39:19.72
and, you know, but
combined they've helped so much,
00:39:19.75\00:39:23.12
they helped us get
the shower trailer.
00:39:23.16\00:39:24.49
Yes. A lot.
00:39:24.53\00:39:25.86
Most of the funds that came in
00:39:25.89\00:39:27.40
or at least half of
the funds that came in
00:39:27.43\00:39:29.43
for that shower
trailer was from 3ABN viewers,
00:39:29.46\00:39:31.40
so we're so thankful for
3ABN and the viewers of 3ABN.
00:39:31.43\00:39:35.47
But we can show them exactly
00:39:35.50\00:39:36.84
what's happened in
pictures right now.
00:39:36.87\00:39:39.07
Yeah, that's our food share,
00:39:39.11\00:39:41.14
that's our vice
president Esau Vargas there.
00:39:41.18\00:39:43.45
He's doing a
kind of a debriefing
00:39:43.48\00:39:44.95
to some of our homeless friends.
00:39:44.98\00:39:47.15
You know, that's our food
share we do it once a month.
00:39:47.18\00:39:50.09
And then we use
that as a platform
00:39:50.12\00:39:51.45
to create
relationships with them.
00:39:51.49\00:39:53.19
Then we have our
clothing trailer here,
00:39:53.22\00:39:54.69
so when a
homeless individual comes,
00:39:54.72\00:39:56.59
they register
00:39:56.62\00:39:58.26
and then they go to
our clothing trailer
00:39:58.29\00:39:59.63
to get clothing,
they get their towels,
00:39:59.66\00:40:01.63
their wash cloths,
their hygiene product.
00:40:01.66\00:40:04.17
And then after that,
00:40:04.20\00:40:06.63
you know, there's
that they're the showers.
00:40:06.67\00:40:09.70
And you see them
kind of lined up there.
00:40:09.74\00:40:11.34
That trailer right there is
a four bathroom shower trailer.
00:40:11.37\00:40:13.91
Each bathroom has a
sink, toilet and shower.
00:40:13.94\00:40:17.95
You know, and then
we have barbers too
00:40:17.98\00:40:19.55
that are on site
00:40:19.58\00:40:21.28
and these barbers,
00:40:21.32\00:40:22.78
oh, that's actually the
whole site there at the church
00:40:22.82\00:40:25.25
where we're doing the outreach.
00:40:25.29\00:40:27.49
So as they show in the pictures
is one of our volunteers
00:40:27.52\00:40:30.99
getting a haircut to one
of those people who needed it.
00:40:31.03\00:40:34.53
Homeless friends.
00:40:34.56\00:40:35.90
Yeah, homeless
friends, but you know,
00:40:35.93\00:40:37.27
it's interesting
because Christ's Object Lessons,
00:40:37.30\00:40:38.63
page 417 actually talks about
00:40:38.67\00:40:41.24
the very vision that
you're seeing in the pictures
00:40:41.27\00:40:43.17
that are being shown on
the screen that, you know.
00:40:43.20\00:40:46.54
What does a haircut
do to the individual?
00:40:46.57\00:40:49.01
It changes a lot, you
know, when you get a haircut,
00:40:49.04\00:40:51.11
you're much more confident.
00:40:51.15\00:40:52.58
When you've been
dirty for three months
00:40:52.61\00:40:53.98
and you take a shower,
you feel like a new man.
00:40:54.02\00:40:56.12
And it's so much
easier for somebody to say,
00:40:56.15\00:40:58.25
hey, at the end of the
day, I wanna pray for you.
00:40:58.29\00:41:00.29
Can I pray for you?
00:41:00.32\00:41:01.66
Is there any other
burdens that you may have?
00:41:01.69\00:41:03.36
And yeah,
absolutely. Please pray.
00:41:03.39\00:41:06.53
Is there any prayer requests?
00:41:06.56\00:41:08.26
You give them a Bible promise
00:41:08.30\00:41:09.63
and they're much more receptive
00:41:09.66\00:41:11.80
to what you have
to share spiritually
00:41:11.83\00:41:13.30
once you fulfill the
needs of that individual.
00:41:13.34\00:41:16.87
Christ's Object Lesson,
page 417, powerful quote.
00:41:16.91\00:41:20.18
It said, "It is ours to
aid in relieving and softening
00:41:20.21\00:41:26.01
life's hardship and misery."
00:41:26.05\00:41:27.85
Check this out,
because listen, we have
00:41:27.88\00:41:30.62
and there's nothing wrong
with what I'm about to say
00:41:30.65\00:41:32.45
because as an evangelist, right,
00:41:32.49\00:41:34.99
money is the key in order
to have successful campaigns
00:41:35.02\00:41:38.66
and successful,
you know, outreaches,
00:41:38.69\00:41:41.80
but this quotation kind of
puts everything in perspective
00:41:41.83\00:41:44.07
because it says practical work
00:41:44.10\00:41:46.30
will have far more
effect than mere sermonizing.
00:41:46.33\00:41:50.44
So what we're
doing in the community,
00:41:50.47\00:41:52.61
right, giving
haircuts, showering,
00:41:52.64\00:41:54.44
giving them clothes,
00:41:54.48\00:41:55.81
you know,
getting them their IDs,
00:41:55.84\00:41:57.18
giving them you
know, towels and,
00:41:57.21\00:42:00.22
you know, bath
soaps and everything,
00:42:00.25\00:42:02.12
it just to, you know,
put them back in a place
00:42:02.15\00:42:05.19
where they feel
good about themselves,
00:42:05.22\00:42:07.36
will have far more effect
in their lives than me saying,
00:42:07.39\00:42:10.96
"All right, come to church,
00:42:10.99\00:42:12.33
and I'm going to
preach you a sermon"
00:42:12.36\00:42:14.30
that has no practicality
in it but just theory.
00:42:14.33\00:42:17.33
And then the quotation actually,
00:42:17.37\00:42:20.54
you know, describes
what this practical work is.
00:42:20.57\00:42:23.00
We are to give
food to the hungry,
00:42:23.04\00:42:24.67
clothing to the naked
and shelter to the homeless.
00:42:24.71\00:42:27.81
Jason, imagine if we would,
00:42:27.84\00:42:29.91
if we utilize the funds
00:42:29.94\00:42:31.35
that we would use in
our evangelistic campaigns
00:42:31.38\00:42:34.12
to completely use that
to impact those individuals
00:42:34.15\00:42:37.29
in our community,
00:42:37.32\00:42:38.65
how much work do
you think will get done?
00:42:38.69\00:42:40.66
Because at the end of the day,
00:42:40.69\00:42:42.19
people say, man,
00:42:42.22\00:42:43.56
you care for me
when no one else cared.
00:42:43.59\00:42:45.23
Yes.
00:42:45.26\00:42:46.59
And once they see that,
00:42:46.63\00:42:47.96
you actually have your
best interest at heart,
00:42:48.00\00:42:49.53
to say, man, I wanna help
you to get back on your feet
00:42:49.56\00:42:52.57
and establish that confidence.
00:42:52.60\00:42:55.00
Anything I say after that,
00:42:55.04\00:42:57.11
they're much more attentive
to listen to what I had to say.
00:42:57.14\00:43:01.08
Can I pray for you?
00:43:01.11\00:43:02.44
Can I show you this Bible verse
that that impacted my life?
00:43:02.48\00:43:04.48
Absolutely.
00:43:04.51\00:43:05.85
And you'll be amazed that
most of our homeless friends
00:43:05.88\00:43:07.98
that we talked to
always share their testimony.
00:43:08.02\00:43:10.39
Man, I grew up in the church,
00:43:10.42\00:43:11.75
man my mom was a Christian
or I was a Christian at once.
00:43:11.79\00:43:14.32
And you guys really
showed the heart of God today.
00:43:14.36\00:43:17.03
Countless times we hear
those type of testimonies,
00:43:17.06\00:43:19.23
but it's not because
we sat there and say,
00:43:19.26\00:43:20.70
hey, you're going
to hear this word.
00:43:20.73\00:43:22.13
No, we actually
relieved and softening life
00:43:22.16\00:43:24.57
hardships and misery
00:43:24.60\00:43:25.93
that had far more greater effect
00:43:25.97\00:43:28.00
than just mere preaching.
00:43:28.04\00:43:29.37
And so, there,
00:43:29.40\00:43:31.14
yeah, so I just realized that,
00:43:31.17\00:43:32.61
that is the work that
God is calling us to do
00:43:32.64\00:43:34.61
because that is the work.
00:43:34.64\00:43:36.48
Because once that practicality
00:43:36.51\00:43:38.28
and the
sermonizing comes together,
00:43:38.31\00:43:40.75
you have the whole
picture of the gospel.
00:43:40.78\00:43:43.12
Yeah, that's
powerful, that is powerful.
00:43:43.15\00:43:46.55
What are some testimonies that
you can share of people's lives
00:43:46.59\00:43:49.66
that were transformed?
00:43:49.69\00:43:51.33
Yeah, you know,
there was one recently
00:43:51.36\00:43:55.60
a homeless friend of ours,
00:43:55.63\00:43:57.67
who would come
out to our events,
00:43:57.70\00:43:59.03
you know, we provided, you know,
00:43:59.07\00:44:01.24
we, right now we're not in
that employment program yet.
00:44:01.27\00:44:06.01
We're not doing that
case management system yet.
00:44:06.04\00:44:07.94
We still need to build capacity,
00:44:07.98\00:44:09.71
raise more funds to
run that during the week.
00:44:09.74\00:44:12.45
But we do it at least
two or three times a month,
00:44:12.48\00:44:15.68
where we run the whole outreach
center for the homeless.
00:44:15.72\00:44:18.75
So there was a guy that came
00:44:18.79\00:44:21.66
and he would come and he'd,
00:44:21.69\00:44:23.02
you know, go
through the motions,
00:44:23.06\00:44:24.39
get the clothing, the hygiene,
00:44:24.43\00:44:26.13
the showers and
we'd interact with him,
00:44:26.16\00:44:28.43
and was maybe a few,
00:44:28.46\00:44:31.27
maybe two events
ago or three events ago,
00:44:31.30\00:44:33.80
he came up to us.
00:44:33.84\00:44:35.40
He didn't go, he
didn't go to the showers,
00:44:35.44\00:44:37.21
he didn't go to
clothing trailer.
00:44:37.24\00:44:38.81
He just kind of,
he didn't register.
00:44:38.84\00:44:40.18
He just kind of came
00:44:40.21\00:44:42.11
and he came up to me
00:44:42.14\00:44:44.11
and he's like,
and he was crying.
00:44:44.15\00:44:46.58
And he's like, Eric,
00:44:46.61\00:44:49.32
it's because of you guys
that I have a job right now.
00:44:49.35\00:44:52.95
And he just walked away,
00:44:52.99\00:44:54.89
you know, and I hope
00:44:54.92\00:44:56.73
we're hoping that he comes back,
00:44:56.76\00:44:58.09
so we can talk to him more
and really engage him more,
00:44:58.13\00:45:00.63
maybe start some studies
with him that sort of thing.
00:45:00.66\00:45:03.67
But that's just an example of,
00:45:03.70\00:45:05.33
of a homeless individual
that we were able to impact
00:45:05.37\00:45:07.94
through the program.
00:45:07.97\00:45:09.30
I mean, there's
some other stories.
00:45:09.34\00:45:11.07
They become family
actually the last story
00:45:11.11\00:45:13.48
with one of our homeless friends
00:45:13.51\00:45:15.58
had invited us
to his graduation.
00:45:15.61\00:45:17.01
Yes, yeah, yeah. Oh, wow.
00:45:17.05\00:45:18.38
Yeah, so, you
know, I was able to...
00:45:18.41\00:45:19.91
I travel a lot and so
when I am not traveling,
00:45:19.95\00:45:22.98
and I can come to an
event, I come to the event
00:45:23.02\00:45:24.75
and so we just got
a 15 passenger van.
00:45:24.79\00:45:29.26
So which we'll talk
about that later in the end
00:45:29.29\00:45:31.69
as the segment continues,
00:45:31.73\00:45:33.06
but we want to use this van
00:45:33.09\00:45:34.43
to actually bring
in our homeless friends
00:45:34.46\00:45:36.73
from the outreaches
that we're implementing
00:45:36.77\00:45:39.27
and bring them to the
churches, to come to the,
00:45:39.30\00:45:41.60
you know, week of
prayers, revival weekends.
00:45:41.64\00:45:43.47
But anyway, so I
got the opportunity
00:45:43.51\00:45:44.84
to drive this van.
00:45:44.87\00:45:46.21
And so, just to
see their response,
00:45:46.24\00:45:48.88
you know, everyone
had their nickname.
00:45:48.91\00:45:50.28
There was one lady,
00:45:50.31\00:45:53.55
she was called
the spaghetti lady.
00:45:53.58\00:45:55.38
And so she had nothing
to do with our organization,
00:45:55.42\00:45:58.29
goes at the middle of the area
that we're in and she gives out
00:45:58.32\00:46:02.32
spaghetti meals
every single day.
00:46:02.36\00:46:04.03
So everyone in the
community knows spaghetti lady.
00:46:04.06\00:46:07.30
It's like man,
I want a nickname.
00:46:07.33\00:46:08.66
You know, he's like, I was like,
00:46:08.70\00:46:10.30
van man, like van man.
00:46:10.33\00:46:11.93
All right, Van man, could
you drop us off this location?
00:46:11.97\00:46:15.07
So one of the gentlemen,
00:46:15.10\00:46:16.87
and Eric can share
the story was saying,
00:46:16.91\00:46:19.27
man have Eric contact me, man,
00:46:19.31\00:46:20.98
I will really love for you
guys to come to my graduation.
00:46:21.01\00:46:24.48
He's like, man,
y'all the only family
00:46:24.51\00:46:25.88
that I have and I
would love for you to come.
00:46:25.91\00:46:27.35
I wasn't able to go,
00:46:27.38\00:46:28.72
but Eric can kind of
share a little bit more.
00:46:28.75\00:46:30.09
Yeah, me and some
of our other leaders
00:46:30.12\00:46:31.69
we went to his graduation
and basically it was a...
00:46:31.72\00:46:37.29
He went through this
program at the Salvation Army.
00:46:37.33\00:46:40.66
And we've been
in touch with him.
00:46:40.70\00:46:42.03
He's come out to
our events a few times.
00:46:42.06\00:46:43.40
We've gotten to know him
very, very humble, genuine guy,
00:46:43.43\00:46:46.77
you know, and he invite us over
00:46:46.80\00:46:50.21
and we went and afterward
went out to eat with him
00:46:50.24\00:46:53.68
and just spent
some time talking.
00:46:53.71\00:46:55.54
And we talked about the Word,
00:46:55.58\00:46:57.25
you know, his studies you know,
00:46:57.28\00:46:59.65
and he, and he said
he had $3,000 saved up,
00:46:59.68\00:47:02.42
he's, like, ready find a place,
00:47:02.45\00:47:04.29
you know, you guys
helped me find a place.
00:47:04.32\00:47:06.02
So we've been
going back and forth,
00:47:06.05\00:47:07.39
sending him some things
00:47:07.42\00:47:08.76
and trying to get
them in a place now and,
00:47:08.79\00:47:11.39
you know, it's exciting,
00:47:11.43\00:47:15.16
you know, to see people
grow and to see people and,
00:47:15.20\00:47:17.67
you know, there's another story,
00:47:17.70\00:47:19.23
we can't share too
much details on it.
00:47:19.27\00:47:21.00
But, you know,
00:47:21.04\00:47:22.54
someone who was
sick became homeless.
00:47:22.57\00:47:25.74
You know, now, you
know, he has a job working,
00:47:25.77\00:47:30.88
you know, and we're able...
00:47:30.91\00:47:32.25
Became a
Christian in the process.
00:47:32.28\00:47:33.62
Became a
Christian... Bible study.
00:47:33.65\00:47:34.98
Was identified as an atheist,
00:47:35.02\00:47:36.35
you know, now he
identifies as a Christian.
00:47:36.38\00:47:38.25
He says, man, yeah, he
identifies as a Christian.
00:47:38.29\00:47:40.39
He's like, man, I
wanna to get baptized.
00:47:40.42\00:47:42.42
And so, again, this is all
through the efforts of just
00:47:42.46\00:47:46.59
connecting with
people on a personal level
00:47:46.63\00:47:48.40
getting to know them.
00:47:48.43\00:47:49.76
A lot of the reasons
why we have developed,
00:47:49.80\00:47:51.73
you know, the shower
trailer, the clothing trailer
00:47:51.77\00:47:53.77
was actually
speaking to the people
00:47:53.80\00:47:55.24
that we're
reaching out to and say
00:47:55.27\00:47:56.60
what is it that you guys need
00:47:56.64\00:47:57.97
because we can easily think,
00:47:58.01\00:47:59.34
oh, I know what you need here.
00:47:59.37\00:48:00.81
Here's a, you know,
bag, lunch, or whatever.
00:48:00.84\00:48:02.91
And once you start
having personal relationships
00:48:02.94\00:48:04.55
and talking to
them, man, we need socks,
00:48:04.58\00:48:07.35
we need you know, undergarments,
00:48:07.38\00:48:08.85
we need, you know, backpacks,
we need all of these things.
00:48:08.88\00:48:11.49
And so, all right, well,
let's give them what they need.
00:48:11.52\00:48:14.59
And then once you
fulfill that need,
00:48:14.62\00:48:16.56
man, that relationship blossoms
00:48:16.59\00:48:18.13
and then you can have
those spiritual conversations,
00:48:18.16\00:48:19.79
you can do all those things.
00:48:19.83\00:48:21.16
And so at the end of the
day, you can have somebody
00:48:21.20\00:48:23.06
who was known as an atheist
to say, now, I'm a Christian.
00:48:23.10\00:48:25.43
Why?
00:48:25.47\00:48:26.80
Because these
people show me love,
00:48:26.84\00:48:28.17
you know, at the end of the day,
00:48:28.20\00:48:29.54
and I want to be what they are,
00:48:29.57\00:48:31.27
and that in of
itself is powerful.
00:48:31.31\00:48:33.61
That is powerful. You know.
00:48:33.64\00:48:35.08
And I know that,
00:48:35.11\00:48:36.58
a lot of people are going
to have questions for you.
00:48:36.61\00:48:38.51
So I am counting on you at
home to send in your questions.
00:48:38.55\00:48:44.25
You can call (618) 627-4651
00:48:44.29\00:48:49.09
and follow the
prompts to the call center,
00:48:49.12\00:48:51.39
which I believe is
just pressing the number two
00:48:51.43\00:48:53.86
when you hear the
automated message.
00:48:53.90\00:48:56.36
And you can also email
your questions to live@3abn.tv.
00:48:56.40\00:49:02.57
We're going to be answering
questions in the second hour.
00:49:02.60\00:49:05.41
And you are my co-host tonight.
00:49:05.44\00:49:08.14
So I'm looking to you
to send in those questions
00:49:08.18\00:49:10.91
for the second hour
00:49:10.95\00:49:12.28
that you would like
to ask Lo-Ammi and Eric.
00:49:12.31\00:49:15.82
You were about to
say something, Eric.
00:49:15.85\00:49:17.29
No, I was about to
say something, wasn't I?
00:49:17.32\00:49:21.72
Yeah, you're too young for that.
00:49:21.76\00:49:23.49
Yeah.
00:49:23.53\00:49:25.09
I'm getting old, once
you past 30 years old.
00:49:25.13\00:49:28.80
He didn't take a nap today.
00:49:28.83\00:49:32.27
No, I was gonna say that...
00:49:32.30\00:49:36.60
Actually, I'd lost it.
00:49:36.64\00:49:38.41
That's all right. I
lost, it will come back.
00:49:38.44\00:49:40.24
That happens for me too.
00:49:40.28\00:49:41.81
Now just we're piggybacking off
because at the end of the day,
00:49:41.84\00:49:43.88
we want to make
sure that as Christians,
00:49:43.91\00:49:45.85
we are connecting the message
that we grew up believing
00:49:45.88\00:49:50.59
and understanding
the three angels' message
00:49:50.62\00:49:52.09
of Revelation 14,
00:49:52.12\00:49:53.72
this gospel unto
all the world, right,
00:49:53.76\00:49:55.86
this gospel has to be seen.
00:49:55.89\00:49:57.53
That's what Jesus specifically
said in Matthew 24:14,
00:49:57.56\00:50:00.66
it's not
earthquake and pestilences
00:50:00.70\00:50:02.56
and all of these other things,
00:50:02.60\00:50:03.93
what puts an end to
all of the world's misery
00:50:03.97\00:50:07.34
is the gospel being seen.
00:50:07.37\00:50:10.37
That is the
emphasis of Revelation 14.
00:50:10.41\00:50:13.11
I wanna share one more quotation
00:50:13.14\00:50:14.64
because, you know,
00:50:14.68\00:50:16.18
when we're talking
about these relationships
00:50:16.21\00:50:18.31
that we're
building, and we're ultimately
00:50:18.35\00:50:21.42
having these
people believe in the God
00:50:21.45\00:50:23.42
that we're
claiming that we serve.
00:50:23.45\00:50:26.32
Christ's Object
Lessons, page 69 says,
00:50:26.35\00:50:28.12
"Christ is waiting
with a longing desire
00:50:28.16\00:50:31.76
for the manifestation
of self in the church."
00:50:31.79\00:50:34.40
So God's saying, "Listen,
00:50:34.43\00:50:35.76
My church claims to be
something that is really not."
00:50:35.80\00:50:38.47
And what Christ wants to see
00:50:38.50\00:50:40.54
is His church
reflect His character,
00:50:40.57\00:50:42.54
His character of love.
00:50:42.57\00:50:44.24
So it says, when
the character of Christ
00:50:44.27\00:50:46.07
shall be perfectly
reproduce in His people,
00:50:46.11\00:50:48.64
then He will come
to claim us as His own.
00:50:48.68\00:50:50.51
Now, I wanna premise by saying,
00:50:50.55\00:50:52.95
I never
understood what this meant,
00:50:52.98\00:50:55.05
when Christian perfection,
you know, Christ's character,
00:50:55.08\00:50:58.05
perfectly
reproduced in His people
00:50:58.09\00:50:59.42
He will claim it as His own.
00:50:59.45\00:51:00.86
Christ's Object Lessons, 384
00:51:00.89\00:51:02.42
actually emphasizes
what that looks like,
00:51:02.46\00:51:05.59
the completeness.
00:51:05.63\00:51:06.96
So being complete in Christ
00:51:07.00\00:51:08.96
of Christian
character is attained.
00:51:09.00\00:51:11.27
Check this out,
you'll like this, Eric,
00:51:11.30\00:51:12.73
is attained when the
impulse to help and bless others
00:51:12.77\00:51:17.01
springs constantly from within,
00:51:17.04\00:51:20.28
when the sunshine of
heaven fills the heart
00:51:20.31\00:51:23.24
and is revealed
in the continents.
00:51:23.28\00:51:25.18
In other words,
00:51:25.21\00:51:26.65
the only time that
Christ is going to come back
00:51:26.68\00:51:28.48
and claim His church as His own
00:51:28.52\00:51:30.42
is when the impulse
to want to serve others
00:51:30.45\00:51:33.09
is constantly there
00:51:33.12\00:51:34.62
and if the continent
shows that they enjoy doing it.
00:51:34.66\00:51:38.56
That's good.
00:51:38.59\00:51:39.93
Oh, I gotta go to outreach
today, you know, I got to...
00:51:39.96\00:51:42.96
Like it's a burden.
00:51:43.00\00:51:44.33
Yeah, no, it's supposed
to be seen in our content.
00:51:44.37\00:51:46.43
I want to do it. Yes.
00:51:46.47\00:51:47.80
I love doing it. Yeah.
00:51:47.84\00:51:49.17
Because at the end of the day,
00:51:49.20\00:51:50.54
Jesus done so much for me
that I want to do it for you.
00:51:50.57\00:51:52.41
Yeah.
00:51:52.44\00:51:53.78
And mostly people not
necessarily care about
00:51:53.81\00:51:56.88
the theology necessarily
because at the end of the day,
00:51:56.91\00:51:59.68
they're seeing that
00:51:59.71\00:52:02.22
what we are doing
00:52:02.25\00:52:03.59
and what we're
trying to implement
00:52:03.62\00:52:04.95
and serving and helping others
is a reflection of Christ.
00:52:04.99\00:52:08.32
And when they
have those questions,
00:52:08.36\00:52:10.03
guess what?
00:52:10.06\00:52:11.39
It's going to be
easier for them to receive it
00:52:11.43\00:52:12.76
because they're saying, man,
00:52:12.79\00:52:14.13
you guys really love
doing what you're doing
00:52:14.16\00:52:15.50
and then you guys are
young people on top of that.
00:52:15.53\00:52:16.87
Yes.
00:52:16.90\00:52:18.23
You know, one
gentleman, I remember
00:52:18.27\00:52:19.60
doing our outreach event.
00:52:19.63\00:52:20.97
He's like, man,
00:52:21.00\00:52:22.34
because we do a lot
of outreach downtown,
00:52:22.37\00:52:23.74
he's like, man, you young people
00:52:23.77\00:52:25.11
could easily be
going to the clubs
00:52:25.14\00:52:26.47
and bars and
partying, having a good time.
00:52:26.51\00:52:28.11
And you guys are
here on a Sunday.
00:52:28.14\00:52:30.48
Man, that for him
spoke great volumes.
00:52:30.51\00:52:33.62
And at the end of the
day, I tell any young person,
00:52:33.65\00:52:36.58
any, any viewer right now that
00:52:36.62\00:52:39.45
if you want to be
complete in Christ,
00:52:39.49\00:52:42.39
you have to engage in the work.
00:52:42.42\00:52:44.19
And as you do so,
00:52:44.23\00:52:45.56
you're gonna see the blessings
that God has in store for you
00:52:45.59\00:52:48.23
but more importantly,
00:52:48.26\00:52:49.60
people gonna see
Christ through you.
00:52:49.63\00:52:50.97
And that's going to be
such a greater witness.
00:52:51.00\00:52:53.47
Again, going
back, I was an atheist.
00:52:53.50\00:52:56.07
After a few months of
ministering to this brother,
00:52:56.10\00:52:59.04
identify as a
Christian, I want to be baptized
00:52:59.07\00:53:00.88
and I want to know, I want
Jesus as my personal Savior.
00:53:00.91\00:53:03.91
That has far
more greater impact,
00:53:03.95\00:53:05.28
because at the end of the day,
00:53:05.31\00:53:06.68
we wanted to
help this individual.
00:53:06.72\00:53:08.68
And you brought it up
earlier too, Matthew 25.
00:53:08.72\00:53:11.85
You know, when we look at that,
00:53:11.89\00:53:13.52
the ones that were
the sheep were the ones
00:53:13.56\00:53:16.42
that did all these works
without even realizing it.
00:53:16.46\00:53:19.86
You know, when we
look at that quote,
00:53:19.89\00:53:21.23
it springs
constantly from within,
00:53:21.26\00:53:23.16
it's a second
nature, you know, and yeah,
00:53:23.20\00:53:26.74
it goes hand in hand.
00:53:26.77\00:53:28.17
One final text
00:53:28.20\00:53:29.54
'cause now you got
my spirits moving now,
00:53:29.57\00:53:32.67
yeah, juices are flowing
now, I'm about to preach in.
00:53:32.71\00:53:34.94
But Isaiah 58 kind
of gives us a blueprint.
00:53:34.98\00:53:38.25
Isaiah 58 talks about,
00:53:38.28\00:53:40.12
you know, the
beginning of the chapter.
00:53:40.15\00:53:42.78
You know, God is calling
out the people of Israel.
00:53:42.82\00:53:44.89
He's saying, "Listen,
00:53:44.92\00:53:46.25
my people does one
thing and they do another
00:53:46.29\00:53:48.89
and we afflict
our souls and we fast
00:53:48.92\00:53:50.99
and we do all these things.
00:53:51.03\00:53:52.36
And, you know, we
go to prayer meetings,
00:53:52.39\00:53:53.73
we do great,
00:53:53.76\00:53:55.10
but is that what
I've called you to do?"
00:53:55.13\00:53:56.60
Then Jesus kind of outlines,
00:53:56.63\00:53:57.97
"Listen, the fast
that I have chosen
00:53:58.00\00:53:59.33
to loosen the
bands of wickedness,
00:53:59.37\00:54:00.70
to undo the heavy burdens,
to let the oppressed go free,
00:54:00.74\00:54:03.77
to share your
bread to the hungry,
00:54:03.81\00:54:05.24
to bring to the house, you know,
00:54:05.27\00:54:06.71
to bring to the house to poor,
00:54:06.74\00:54:08.34
who are cast out to see
the naked and cover him.
00:54:08.38\00:54:11.21
Like at the end of the day,
00:54:11.25\00:54:13.28
there's a works oriented
principle that God says,
00:54:13.31\00:54:15.98
"Stop saying one
thing and not doing it.
00:54:16.02\00:54:17.75
Go and do."
00:54:17.79\00:54:19.12
But here's the result
00:54:19.15\00:54:20.49
and I wanna kind of
conclude on this thought
00:54:20.52\00:54:21.86
in Isaiah Chapter 16 verse...
00:54:21.89\00:54:23.76
Let's read verse
1, for the context,
00:54:23.79\00:54:26.13
because we
actually saw this firsthand
00:54:26.16\00:54:28.70
'cause we always,
our evangelist campaigns.
00:54:28.73\00:54:31.70
Again, as a preacher,
00:54:31.73\00:54:33.07
I'm not gonna
knock it because I do it.
00:54:33.10\00:54:36.60
But, man, how are we
going to share this gospel
00:54:36.64\00:54:39.01
to the entire world?
00:54:39.04\00:54:41.28
Well, here it is, Isaiah 16:1,
00:54:41.31\00:54:43.35
"Arise, shine for your
light has come and the glory
00:54:43.38\00:54:46.85
which is the
character of the Lord
00:54:46.88\00:54:48.42
is risen upon you.
00:54:48.45\00:54:49.98
For behold, the
darkness shall cover the earth."
00:54:50.02\00:54:52.45
What is the darkness?
00:54:52.49\00:54:53.82
It's a misapprehension
of God's character.
00:54:53.86\00:54:56.06
People don't know who God is.
00:54:56.09\00:54:57.79
God is light, God is love.
00:54:57.83\00:54:59.59
So the world is in
darkness of who God is.
00:54:59.63\00:55:01.46
So check this out.
00:55:01.50\00:55:02.83
For behold, the
darkness shall cover the earth
00:55:02.86\00:55:04.60
and the deep
darkness of the people
00:55:04.63\00:55:06.03
but the Lord
will arise over you,
00:55:06.07\00:55:08.67
and His glory
will be seen upon you.
00:55:08.70\00:55:10.54
Check verse 3,
00:55:10.57\00:55:11.91
because we
experienced this, Eric,
00:55:11.94\00:55:13.34
"That Gentiles
shall come to your light
00:55:13.38\00:55:15.98
and the Kings to the
brightness of your rising."
00:55:16.01\00:55:18.71
Once we fulfill the commission
00:55:18.75\00:55:20.55
that God has
established us to do
00:55:20.58\00:55:21.98
to actually serve
those in the community,
00:55:22.02\00:55:24.45
Christ says, the
world will no longer have
00:55:24.49\00:55:27.39
a
misapprehension of My character.
00:55:27.42\00:55:29.72
That light is
going to be revealed
00:55:29.76\00:55:31.83
in a world full of darkness.
00:55:31.86\00:55:33.63
But the key is that Gentiles
shall come to your light.
00:55:33.66\00:55:37.43
In other words,
00:55:37.47\00:55:38.80
there's going to be
something that's taking place
00:55:38.83\00:55:41.07
that everyone is
attracted to that
00:55:41.10\00:55:42.54
they're going to end up coming.
00:55:42.57\00:55:44.14
And this
happened a few months ago
00:55:44.17\00:55:45.67
when the local news
station came and they did,
00:55:45.71\00:55:49.04
they wanted to do interviews,
like who's these young people,
00:55:49.08\00:55:51.45
this organization that's
doing work in the community.
00:55:51.48\00:55:55.15
And I saw this and after that,
00:55:55.18\00:55:56.89
they did a segment,
00:55:56.92\00:55:58.25
they broadcasted
at the local channel.
00:55:58.29\00:56:00.66
And exactly and it was verbatim,
00:56:00.69\00:56:02.62
I'm paraphrasing,
00:56:02.66\00:56:04.33
SALT Outreach,
00:56:04.36\00:56:05.89
doing community service
00:56:05.93\00:56:07.36
at the Central
Seventh-day Adventist Church.
00:56:07.40\00:56:10.00
And just like that,
00:56:10.03\00:56:11.37
thousands of people heard about
a Seventh-day Adventist Church
00:56:11.40\00:56:14.50
that's doing
work in the community
00:56:14.54\00:56:16.24
that is driven by young people,
00:56:16.27\00:56:18.01
and all of a sudden people
00:56:18.04\00:56:19.37
who are non Christians
are coming up to this,
00:56:19.41\00:56:21.64
you know, to our
events, asking is this where
00:56:21.68\00:56:24.05
the events happening
for the shower trailer?
00:56:24.08\00:56:25.45
I like to
volunteer my time. Yeah.
00:56:25.48\00:56:27.32
When we do the work
that God has called us to do?
00:56:27.35\00:56:30.09
He says, then your light shall
shine for the Gentiles to see.
00:56:30.12\00:56:33.05
We didn't have to
pass that one GLOW track,
00:56:33.09\00:56:34.52
we don't have to
pass, I'm not saying that
00:56:34.56\00:56:35.89
those things are
not important, mind you.
00:56:35.92\00:56:37.79
Handbills,
00:56:37.83\00:56:39.19
the world saw that we
were actually doing so good
00:56:39.23\00:56:42.26
that the world is so selfish
00:56:42.30\00:56:43.90
and so self centered
00:56:43.93\00:56:45.57
that young people are
doing something selfless.
00:56:45.60\00:56:47.94
We want to go to
where they're at.
00:56:47.97\00:56:49.80
And they broadcasted
00:56:49.84\00:56:51.17
the message of
hope to the entire world
00:56:51.21\00:56:53.44
and everybody is
coming to the church.
00:56:53.48\00:56:55.74
And just think about it,
00:56:55.78\00:56:57.28
where you're sitting right now,
00:56:57.31\00:56:58.65
we're broadcasting the
message around the world.
00:56:58.68\00:57:02.65
At 3ABN too.
00:57:02.68\00:57:04.02
Oh, yes, yeah.
It's going around.
00:57:04.05\00:57:06.12
And it's exciting to, you know,
00:57:06.15\00:57:08.22
see the steady
progression of the things
00:57:08.26\00:57:11.09
that you have needed,
God has been providing.
00:57:11.13\00:57:14.10
I can't believe
we're almost down
00:57:14.13\00:57:16.00
to the end of our first hour,
00:57:16.03\00:57:18.70
but we do have a
second hour coming up.
00:57:18.73\00:57:21.44
You know, people at home,
00:57:21.47\00:57:23.10
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00:57:23.14\00:57:25.21
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00:57:25.24\00:57:30.38
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00:57:38.59\00:57:40.79
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00:57:40.82\00:57:44.03
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00:57:44.06\00:57:47.66
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00:57:47.70\00:57:50.70
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00:57:50.73\00:57:54.80
I've been amazed with
what's going on with SALT,
00:57:54.84\00:57:57.94
and I'm sure you're too.
00:57:57.97\00:57:59.31
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