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00:04 ♪ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ♪ ♪ SPEND MY LIFE ♪
00:09 ♪ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ♪ ♪ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ♪ 00:17 ♪ REMOVING PAIN ♪ ♪ LORD, LET MY WORDS ♪ 00:26 ♪ LET MY WORDS ♪ ♪ HEAL UP HEARTS THAT HURT ♪ 00:35 ♪ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ♪ ♪ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ♪ 00:49 ♪ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ♪ ♪ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ♪ 01:08 >>> HELLO AND WELCOME TO 3ABN "TODAY LIVE." 01:13 I CAN'T BELIEVE IT, JASON. THIS IS MY CO-HOST, MY SON -- 01:18 >> I KNOW IT. >> -- THE GENERAL MANAGER OF 01:23 DARE TO DREAM NETWORK. JASON BRADLEY. 01:25 >> IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE WITH YOU. 01:27 >> I'M SO GLAD YOU ARE HERE. >> I AM TOO. 01:30 AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE IN STORE THIS EVENING. 01:34 >> I KNOW IT. FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE BEEN WITH 01:37 OUR GUEST ALL WEEK -- >> UH-HUH. 01:40 >> ALL WEEK. [ LAUGHTER ] 01:42 >> BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN TAPING, RECORDING OUR NEW SALVATION AND 01:46 SYMBOLS AND SIGNS SERIES ON DANIEL. 01:50 >> UH-HUH. >> TELL OUR VIEWERS HAS IT IS 01:54 GOING. >> IT HAS BEEN ABSOLUTELY 01:56 AMAZING.-SEEING THE BOOK OF DANIEL IN A WHOLE NEW LIGHT, THE WAY THAT 02:03 PASTER MEYERS AND PASTOR RAFFERTY BREAK DOWN AND 02:08 EXTRAPOLATE THE MEAT THAT IS CONTAINED IN THE BOOK OF DANIEL 02:11 IS ABSOLUTELY PHENOMENAL. >> YES. 02:13 >> AND IF YOU WANT TO LEARN HOW TO STUDY THE BIBLE LIKE THAT, 02:18 WELL, YOU TUNED INTO THE RIGHT PROGRAM. 02:21 >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO BE 02:23 TALKING ABOUT HOW TO STUDY THE BIBLE. 02:25 >> WE ARE. WE ARE. 02:27 I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN WATCHING, BECAUSE WE GET EMAILS EVERY 02:32 SINGLE DAY ON SALVATION AND SYMBOLS AND SIGNS, AND WE NOW 02:37 WANT KNOW HOW TO STUDY GOD'S WORD. 02:43 AND SO PASTOR IVOR MYERS IS HERE THIS EVENING. 02:46 WELCOME PASTOR IVOR MYERS. >> GOOD TO BE HERE, GOOD TO BE 02:51 HERE. YET AGAIN. 02:52 YET AGAIN. WE HAVE BEEN TOGETHER ALL WEEK. 02:54 >> WE HAVE. >> ALL WEEK. 02:56 >> FOR HOURS. >> FOR HOURS. 03:00 [ LAUGHTER ] >> BUT IT HAS BEEN GOING SO 03:03 BEAUTIFULLY, AND WE ARE SO GRATEFUL FOR THE INCITES THAT 03:07 YOU AND PASTOR JAMES RAFFERTY SHARE WITH US. 03:12 JASON AND I ARE THE STUDENTS OF THE PROGRAM, AND WE KIND 03:15 OF -- YOU KNOW, KEEP THEM ON -- INSTEAD OF BEING SO 03:20 CEREBRAL, WHICH THEY ARE, BUT WE KEEP THEM AT, LIKE, VIEWER 03:23 LEVEL. >> THAT'S RIGHT. 03:25 >> WE ASK QUESTIONS THAT WE THINK YOU WOULD WANT TO KNOW. 03:28 SO WE REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU DO. 03:31 >> THANK YOU. >> YOU THE FOUNDER OF POWER OF 03:37 THE LAMB MINISTRIES. >> YES. 03:38 >> AND YOU HAVE AN INTERESTING, INTERESTING JOURNEY. 03:42 AFTER OUR MUSIC FOR THIS EVENING, WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR 03:47 ABOUT YOUR JOURNEY. WE HAVE STEPHANIE DAWN WITH US, 03:50 AND SHE IS GOING TO SING AND BE ACCOMPANIED BY DAN THORNTON. 03:57 SHE IS GOING TO SING "SPEECHLESS." 04:40 ♪ I'M SPEECHLESS OVERCOME BY JOY THAT REACHES INTO MY HEART SO 04:52 DEEPLY ♪ ♪ ALMOST TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE ♪ 05:06 ♪ IN THIS WONDER OF YOUR KINDNESS ♪ 05:18 ♪ I'M SPEECHLESS ♪ ♪ SILENCED BY HOW GOOD YOU ARE 05:25 TO ME ♪ ♪ WHEN THINGS HAVE BEEN SO 05:42 SHATTERING ♪ ♪ I COULD NOT USE WORDS ♪ 05:47 ♪ THERE WAS COMFORT IN THE KNOW ♪ 05:53 ♪ THAT YOU WERE THERE ♪ ♪ BUT NOW IT'S ALL GRATITUDE I 06:06 STRUGGLE TO EXPRESS ♪ ♪ MY AMAZEMENT AT YOUR 06:15 OVERWHELMING LOVE AND FAITHFULNESS ♪ 06:19 ♪ I'M SPEECHLESS ♪ ♪ OVERCOME BY JOY THAT REACHES 06:32 INTO MY HEART SO DEEPLY ♪ ♪ ALMOST TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE ♪ 06:52 ♪ IN THE QUIET WONDER OF YOUR KINDNESS ♪ 07:04 ♪ I'M SPEECHLESS ♪ ♪ SILENCED BY HOW GOOD YOU ARE ♪ 07:13 ♪ TO ME ♪ ♪ WHEN I COULD COMPARE WHAT I 07:28 DESERVE TO HOW I FEEL SO HOPELESS ♪ 07:33 ♪ I'M IN AWE THAT INSTEAD I FIND TENDERNESS ♪ 07:44 ♪ I'M SPEECHLESS ♪ 07:57 ♪ ♪ IN THIS QUIET SILENT WONDER OF 08:25 YOUR KINDNESS ♪ ♪ I'M SPEECHLESS ♪ 08:32 ♪ SILENCED BY HOW GOOD YOU ARE TO ME ♪ 08:46 ♪ I'M SPEECHLESS ♪ ♪ SILENCED BY HOW GOOD YOU ARE 08:57 TO ME ♪ 09:10 >> "SPEECHLESS." THANK YOU STEPHANIE DAWN FOR 09:13 THAT -- THAT LOVELY SONG. >> UH-HUH.-p>> LOVELY. 09:18 PASTOR MEYERS LET'S GET TO IT, AS DANNY SAY, LET'S CUT THIS 09:24 MELON. [ LAUGHTER ] 09:25 >> YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A JOURNEY THAT -- IN A SENSE IS KIND OF 09:29 SIMILAR TO MINE IN THAT WE WERE BOTH IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY. 09:32 TELL US ABOUT YOUR BEGINNINGS, EVEN BEFORE YOU GOT INTO THE 09:36 MUSIC INDUSTRY. DID YOU GROW UP IN A CHRISTIAN 09:39 HOME? WHAT WAS YOUR HOME LIFE LIKE? 09:41 >> SO I WAS BORN IN JAMAICA. I DIDN'T GROW UP IN -- YOU KNOW, 09:47 WE WEREN'T A RELIGIOUS FAMILY, LIKE GOING TO CHURCH EVERY WEEK 09:51 OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I MEAN WE WENT TO CHURCH -SOMETIMES, BUT IT WAS -- MY 09:59 PARENTS, YOU KNOW, GOOD PEOPLE, CAUGHT US TO BE RESPECTFUL ALL 10:02 OF THOSE THINGS. SO WE GREW UP IN A GOOD HOME. 10:06 MY INTERDIRECTION TO CHRISTIANITY KIND OF CAME IN 10:11 STAGES. BEGINNING WITH WHEN I WAS AROUND 10:14 12 YEARS OLD, I HAD, YOU KNOW, AN EXPERIENCE WITH A COUSIN OF 10:19 MINE WHO CAME OVER TO THE STATES AND INTRODUCED ME TO THE 10:23 BIBLE -- INTRODUCED ME TO THE BOOK OF REVELATIONS AND REALLY 10:26 SCARED ME TO DEATH. >> THAT WAS YOUR INTRODUCTION TO 10:29 THE BIBLE? THE BOOK OF REVELATIONS. 10:32 >> THAT WAS MY -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WNT TO HEAR THE STORY, 10:35 BUT -- >> YES, GO AHEAD. 10:38 TELL IT. >> I WAS 12 -- NO, I WAS 11. 10:43 I'M SORRY, I WAS 12, MY BROTHER WAS 11, AND LIKE I SAY, WE 10:48 DIDN'T GO TO CHURCH TOO OFTEN. AND MY COUSIN CAME FROM ENGLAND. 10:52 SHE IS ABOUT 14 YEARS OLD. HER NAME IS SUSAN, AND SUSAN 10:57 WOULD TALK TO US ABOUT THE BIBLE. 10:59 WE JUST FELL IN LOVE WITH HER IMMEDIATELY. 11:02 IT WAS OUR FIRST TIME MEETING HER. 11:04 AND BY THIS TIME, WE WERE IN THE STATES. 11:07 WE WERE IN AMERICA. SO SUSAN WAS TALKING US TO ABOUT 11:11 THE BIBLE ONE MORNING, BUT THIS TIME SHE IS TALKING TO US ABOUT 11:14 THIS THING CALLED THE MARK OF BEAST, AND MY PARENTS WERE NOT 11:20 HOME AT THE TIME. AND IT WAS JUST ME AND MY 11:23 BROTHER AND SUSAN AT HOME, AND SHE'S TELLING US ABOUT THIS 11:26 THING IN THE BOOK OF REVELATION CALLED THE MARK OF THE BEAST, 11:29 AND MY BROTHER AND I -- AS SHE'S TALKING, MY BROTHER AND I ARE 11:35 LIKE, NO, THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING. 11:39 WHY? BECAUSE THAT SUMMER WE HAD JUST 11:41 WATCHED A MOVIE ABOUT A LITTLE BOY WHO DISCOVERS HE IS THE 11:46 ANTICHRIST. >> OH, NO. 11:47 >> AND HE WAS FROM ENGLAND, AS FAR AS I REMEMBER. 11:50 >> OH, NO. >> AND HE HAD 666 WRITTEN IN HIS 11:56 FOREHEAD, SO ANYONE THAT DISCOVERS HIS IDENTITY DIES A 12:04 HORRENDOUS -- JUST PAINFUL, LIKE, JUST CRAZY DEATH, LIKE 12:10 GETTING HIT BY A TRUCK, AND THE TRUCK DOESN'T KILL HIM, AND A 12:14 CROW COMES OUT OF NOWHERE. AND THEY WERE JUST LIKE -- AND 12:18 THEIR DEATH WOLD JUST BE SO HORRENDOUS. 12:21 SO AFTER WE SAW THAT MOVIE, MY BROTHER AND I DECIDED WE NEVER 12:25 WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THE MARK OF THE BEAST WAS. 12:28 >> WOW, THAT WAS YOUR INTRODUCTION. 12:31 >> THAT WAS OUR INTRODUCTION. MY COUSIN WAS LIKE, I KNO WHAT 12:34 THE MARK OF THE BEAST IS. DO YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE 12:38 MARK OF THE BEAST IS? AND WE WERE LIKE, WE'RE ABOUT TO 12:42 DIE. AND THEN SHE BEGINS TO TELL US 12:44 THAT THERE IS A CERTAIN COMPANY THAT PRODUCES SOAP. 12:47 AND ON THEIR SOAP BOXES IS THIS SYMBOL OF A CIRCLE AND A HALF 12:54 MOON AND A MAN'S FACE. >> I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING 12:58 ABOUT. >> AND SHE IS LIKE THAT IS THE 13:00 MARK OF THE BEAST, AND I'M THINKING, WE ARE ABOUT TO DIE, 13:04 AND MY PARENTS AREN'T HOME.-AND SHE WAS LIKE DO YOU HAVE A SOAP BOX IN YOUR HOUSE?-AND I'M LIKE, YES, SUSAN. 13:12 AND SHE IS LIKE, WHERE IS IT? AND MY BROTHER AND I WERE LIKE 13:17 IT'S IN THE BASEMENT. AND SHE WAS LIKE LET'S GO. 13:23 AND OFF WE GO DOWN THE STEPS, AND THE STEPS ARE CREAKING, AND 13:27 IN MY MIND I HEAR THE HORROR MUSIC IN THE BACKGROUND. 13:31 WE GET TO THE BASEMENT AND WE POINT TO THE SOAP BOX, AND WE 13:35 START BACKING UP. SHE PICKS IT UP, TURNS IT, LOOKS 13:39 AT US, AND THEN SHE IS LIKE, THERE IT IS. 13:42 MY BROTHER AND I SEE THE CIRCLE WITH THE HALF MOON AND THE MAN'S 13:47 FACE IN IT, WE RUN OUT THE HOUSE SCREAMING IN OUR PAJAMAS. 13:53 WE ARE STANDING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET -- NO LAUGHING ON THE 13:58 SET, PLEASE -- WE ARE STANDING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET 14:02 SCREAMING -- >> IN NEW YORK. 14:04 >> THIS WAS IN LONG ISLAND. WE ARE SCREAMING AND CRYING, AND 14:08 MY COUSIN IS LAUGHING TO DEATH. WE'RE LOOKING FOR CROWS. 14:14 WE'RE LOOKING FOR HOUSES TO -FALL. WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE EARTH TO 14:18 OPEN UP. AND AFTER FIVE MINUTES OF 14:21 NOTHING HAPPENING, WE CALM DOWN, AND THAT WAS MY INTRODUCTION TO 14:24 THE BOOK OF REVELATIONS AND THE BIBLE. 14:27 >> IT'S FUNNY, BUT IT'S NOT FUNNY. 14:31 IT'S FUNNY IN THE WAY YOU ARE TELLING IT. 14:34 BUT IT'S NOT FUNNY BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A DISTORTION OF WHAT THE 14:39 TRUE MARK OF THE BASE IS. AND THAT'S HOW MEDIA CAN JUST 14:44 CHANGE HOW WE PERCEIVE THINGS. >> IT PLANTED A SEED IN MY MIND. 14:48 AFTERWARDS I WAS LIKE, WE'RE STILL LIVE, IT HAPPENED, MAYBE 14:53 YOU CAN KNOW WHAT THE MARK OF THE BEAST IS AND LIVE. 14:56 SO I REMEMBER A SEED BEING PLANTED. 14:59 AND IT WAS JUST LIKE A SEED WAS PLANTED AND THEN I WENT ON AS 15:04 USUAL, JUST LIVING MY LIFE OR WHATEVER. 15:06 >> UH-HUH. >> AND SO AS A TEENAGER, MY 15:11 BROTHER AND I GOT REALLY INVOLVED IN THE HOP -- HIP HOP 15:17 INDUSTRY, BREAK DANCING AND THE WHOLE CULTURE, AND BY THE TIME 15:20 WE GOT TO HIGH SCHOOL, WE HAD FORMED A FOUR-MAN HIP HOP GROUP. 15:25 WE GRADUATED WENT TO COLLEGE, AND IN MY SECOND YEAR OF 15:29 COLLEGE, ENTERED A TALENT SHOW AT HOWARD UNIVERSITY IN 15:38 WASHINGTON, D.C. WE CAME IN FIRST PLACE AND THAT 15:40 LEAD TO A RECORDING CONTRACT WITH EMI RECORDS IN 1993. 15:45 THE NAME OF OUR GROUP WAS THE BOOGIE MONSTERS. 15:50 WE STARTED RECORDING. WE RECORDED AN ALBUM, AND WHILE 15:55 WE WERE RECORDING THAT FIRST ALBUM, I WAS INTRODUCED TO THE 15:59 GOSPEL, AND THAT'S WHERE MY WHOLE LIFE JUST -- YOU KNOW, 16:02 TOOK A TURN, AND I ENDED UP LEAVING THE MUSIC INDUSTRY AS 16:06 WELL AS MY BROTHER WHO WAS IN THE GROUP WITH US. 16:11 BOTH OF US LEFT THE INDUSTRY FOR THE SAME REASON AND WENT INTO 16:16 MINISTRY. IT WAS NOT MY INTENT TO GO INTO 16:19 MINISTRY. I JUT LEFT THE GROUP, BECAUSE 16:21 THE THINGS THAT I LEARNED SO IMPACTED ME THAT I WAS WILLING 16:26 TO WALK AWAY FROM, YOU KNOW, $800,000 CONTRACT, AND BASICALLY 16:30 WENT TO WORK AT TARGET, YOU KNOW, MAKING LIKE MINIMUM WAGE. 16:36 >> YEAH. >> AND HADN'T REALLY THOGHT 16:38 ABOUT BECOMING A PASTOR, JUST KNEW THAT I COULD NOT CONTINUE 16:41 DOING WHAT I WAS DOING, AND THEN FROM THERE, THE LORD JUST BEGAN 16:46 TO SHOW ME DIFFERENT THINGS AND ONE THING LEAD TO ANOTHER, AND 16:50 NOW HERE I AM. >> WOW. 16:52 >> WOW. >> SO WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO 16:54 YOUNG PEOPLE WHO FEEL AS THOUGH THEY CAN LISTEN TO HIP HOP AND 17:00 BE CHRISTIAN IN I MEAN WHAT --WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT? 17:06 >> YEAH. YOU KNOW, I KNOW -- LIKE GOD 17:10 USES DIFFERENT PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT PLACES, RIGHT? 17:12 SO WHEN I WAS GETTING MY UNDERSTANDING OF THIS GOSPEL, OF 17:18 THIS TRUTH, IT'S -- YOU KNOW, WE WERE -- WE WERE SO EXCITED ABOUT 17:24 WHAT WE WERE LEARNING, THAT WE -- WE SAID WE'RE GOING TO 17:28 TAKE THE THREE ANGELS' MESSAGES AND PUT IT IN OUR HIP HOP MUSIC, 17:32 AND GO INTO CLUBS, AND WE'LL BE PERFORMING AND PULL OUT "THE 17:41 GREAT CONTROVERSY" BOOKS OUT OF OUR BACKPACKS. 17:45 WE WOULD BE LIKE WHO WANTS TO KNOW WHAT SIN IS? 17:49 PUT YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR. THEY WOULD PUT THEIR HANDS UP 17:53 AND WE WOULD THROW OUT "THE GREAT CONTROVERSY" BOOKS. 17:56 GOD USED AT US OUR -- THAT LEVEL OF KNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAD. 18:01 AND HE USES DIFFERENT PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT PLACES. 18:04 AND NOW WHEN YOU LISTEN TO THE LYRICS OF A LOT OF THESE SONGS, 18:08 IT'S ROCK MUSIC -- IT'S ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT THINGS, AND I 18:12 THINK THE MORE YOU TRY TO GET THE MIND OF CHRIST, THAT'S THE 18:16 KEY THING. STRIVING FOR THE MIND OF CHRIST 18:22 WILL SHOW YOU HOW CHRIST WANTS YOU TO WALK. 18:25 AND SO, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THERE ARE DIFFERENT PEOPLE IN 18:29 DIFFERENT PLACES, BUT LEARNING -- THAT'S WHAT I HAVE 18:31 LEARNED OVER MY YEARS OF BEING A CHRISTIAN, SOMETIMES YOU CAN 18:34 POINT TO THINGS AND BE LIKE, YOU SHOULDN'T DO THIS, OR YOU 18:39 SHOULDN'T DO THAT. BUT THAT'S WHY MY PASSION HAS 18:41 REALLY BECOME STUDYING THE BIBLE, BECAUSE I THINK ONCE 18:45 PEOPLE LEARN HOW TO FOCUS ON CHRIST, ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS, 18:49 YOU KNOW, THAT WE TYPICALLY LIKE -- YOU KNOW, ALL OF THOSE 18:53 THINGS BEGIN TO BECOME SELF-EVIDENT. 18:55 AND SO THAT'S WHAT MY PASSION HAS BECOME, REALLY TEACHING 18:59 PEOPLE HOW TO GET INTO THE WORD OF GOD. 19:01 >> AND YOU HAVE NAMED YOUR SYSTEM. 19:04 >> YES. IT'S CALLED PHOTO-THEOLOGY. 19:06 AND THE MEANING BEHIND THAT NAME IS BASIALLY THE STUDY OF GOD 19:10 THROUGH THE USE OF PICTURES. AND WE'LL GET INTO THAT 19:14 DEFINITION A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT IT'S INTERESTING, BECAUSE, 19:19 YOU KNOW, WHEN I BECAME A SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST, I DIDN'T 19:25 COME IN THROUGH AN EVANGELISTIC SERIES. 19:27 I DIDN'T COME IN THROUGH GOING TO SCHOOL. 19:30 IT WAS -- I WAS -- YOU KNOW, A FRIEND OF A FRIEND OF MINE 19:35 BASICALLY ASKED US A QUESTION ONE NIGHT. 19:38 VERY INTERESTING, HE ASKED US WHAT DAY WE THINK THE SABBATH 19:42 IS. WE WERE ALL -- LIKE 20 TO 30 OF 19:45 US WERE JUST HANGING OUT THIS NIGHT TALKING AND ALL DREAD 19:49 LOCKED DOWN, AND SMOKING OUR MARIJUANA, AND OUT OF THE BLUE 19:53 THIS GUY THAT WE NEVER MET BEFORE ASKED US THIS QUESTION. 19:56 HE WAS A FRIEND OF A FRIEND OF OURS, BUT WE DID NOT KNOW HIM. 20:00 AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING -- I CAN'T REMEMBER. 20:04 AND HE -- IT WAS KIND OF ALONG THE LINES OF SPIRITUAL THINGS, 20:09 AND AT THAT TIME WE WERE MIXING SPIRITUAL THINGS LIKE -- YOU 20:12 KNOW, BEING ECLECTIC RAPPERS. THE NEW ORDER THEY ARE OUT TO 20:19 GET YOU, MAN. MARK OF THE BEAST, MAN. 20:22 WATCH OUT FOR THOSE SOAP BOXES, YOU KNOW? 20:25 >> YEAH. YEAH. 20:26 >> YEAH. >> AND HE ASKED US WHAT DAY DO 20:30 WE THINK THE SABBATH IS? AND WE'RE LIKE THAT'S A SILLY 20:35 QUESTION. LIKE EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT DAY IT 20:38 IS. IT'S SUNDAY. 20:39 AND FROM THAT ONE QUESTION, THIS GUY BEGINS TO BREAK DOWN TO US, 20:44 DANIEL CHAPTER 2, DANIEL CHAPTER 7, AND THIS WHOLE CHANGE THAT 20:48 THE BIBLE SAID WAS GOING TO HAPPEN, THAT REALLY 20:51 CHANGED -- IT WAS THAT NIGHT THAT EVERYTHING CHANGED FOR US. 21:01 >> HUM. >> SO I DIDN'T LEARN THROUGH AN 21:05 EVANGELISTIC SERIES. I BASICALLY -- I DIDN'T EVEN 21:08 KNOW THE GUY WAS ADVENTIST. YOU KNOW, FOR A WHILE, WE WERE 21:13 JUST LIKE, THERE IS NO ONE ON THE PLANET THAT KNOWS THE BIBLE 21:16 AS GOD AS THIS GUY. RIGHT? 21:19 >> YEAH. >> AND A COUPLE OF WEEKS LATER, 21:22 WE ARE LIKE WHAT ARE YOU? HE IS LIKE I'M A SEVENTH-DAY 21:26 ADVENTIST. WE'RE LIKE WHAT IS THAT? 21:28 SO WE ENDED GOING TO CHURCH WITH HIM FOR THE FIRST TIME. 21:32 AND WE WENT INTO THAT CHURCH -- AND IMAGINE LIKE 20 OF 21:37 US WALKING UP TO THIS LITTLE CHURCH IN LAURELTON QUEENS. 21:44 IT WAS A LEBANON SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH. 21:47 AND THE PEOPLE WERE JUST LIKE -- WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE 21:50 WALKING UP INTO OUR CHURCH, RIGHT? 21:54 WE'RE ALL IN JEANS AND GUM CHEWING. 21:59 WHAT'S UP? AND AS THE PASTER IS SPEAKING, 22:02 WE ARE LIKE LOSING OUR MINDS. [ LAUGHTER ] 22:05 >> WE'RE LIKE WHAT? HE DID JUST THAT JESUS IS THE 22:12 LORD! WHAT? 22:13 [ LAUGHTER ] >> AND EVERYONE ELSE WAS SITTING 22:16 AROUND LIKE . . . [ LAUGHTER ] 22:18 >> YEAH. >> AND WE WERE LIKE, HOLD ON. 22:23 HOLD ON. THEY MUST NOT HAVE JUST HEARD 22:26 THAT THE PASTOR JUST SAID THAT YOU HAVE TO PAY TITHE. 22:31 THEY MUST NOT HAVE HEARD THAT, BECAUSE I HAVE NEVER HEARD THAT 22:35 TRUTH BEFORE. [ LAUGHTER ] 22:37 >> AND WE WOULD LOOK AROUND LIKE, WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH 22:40 THESE PEOPLE. AND WE JUST DIDN'T CARE, WE WERE 22:44 LIKE -- WE JUST LOST IT. LITERALLY EVERYTHING THE 22:47 PREACHER SAID, AND SO THAT'S WHERE -- LIKE, SOMETIMES PEOPLE 22:51 SEE MY PREACH AND HE GETS EXCITED WHEN HE PREACHES. 22:56 >> YEAH. YEAH. 22:57 >> IT'S NOT MANUFACTURED, LIKE, THAT'S HOW WE CAME INTO THE 23:02 CHURCH. AND WERE SHOCKED TO LOOK AROUND 23:05 AND SEE PEOPLE LIKE . . . AND IT HAS BEEN 24, 25 YEARS NOW -- YOU 23:11 KNOW, HOWEVER LONG IT HAS BEEN SINCE I HAVE BEEN IN THE CHURCH, 23:14 AND IT IS STILL THE SAME ISSUE, LIKE, I DON'T GET IT. 23:18 DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? 23:20 >> I DO. >> HOW IS IT THAT WE'RE NOT MORE 23:23 EXCITED ABOUT THE THINGS THAT GOD HAS SHOWN US IN THE 23:27 SCRIPTURES. >> YES. 23:29 >> AND SO I -- THIS IS HOW PHOTO-THEOLOGY FOR ME DEVELOPED. 23:34 BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, I DIDN'T GO TO SCHOOL TO STUDY HOW TO STUDY 23:40 THE BIBLE. SO I WAS LEARNING IN A WAY THAT 23:43 GOD WAS SPEAKING TO ME. >> UH-HUH. 23:45 >> AND I DID NOT EVEN REALIZE IT. 23:48 BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW THERE IS A SYSTEM TO BIBLE STUDY. 23:51 I NEVER HAD ANY OF THAT. SO AS A HIP HOP ARTIST, YOU 23:56 KNOW, THE TING ABOUT MUSICIANS, AND YOU PROBABLY -- YOU KNOW 24:00 THIS, IS WE'RE VERY ARTISTIC, RIGHT? 24:04 MUSIC IS A VERY CREATIVE THING. IT TAKES A CREATIVE MIND TO BE A 24:10 MUSICIAN. SO WHENEVER YOU WRITE RHYMES, 24:16 YOU DON'T WANT TO SAY ANYTHING THAT SOMEONE ELSE HAS SAID. 24:23 SO YOU WANTED TO WRITE IN A TWHA WAS UNIQUELY YOUR OWN STYLE. 24:27 SO WE WERE ALWAYS THINKING HOW CAN I SEE THIS IN A DIFFERENT 24:32 WAY. SO WHEN IT CAME TO STUDYING THE 24:34 BIBLE, I DIDN'T NECESSARILY REALIZE THAT THAT WAS WHAT I WAS 24:38 DOING, BUT THAT'S WHAT I WAS DOING, RIGHT? 24:40 AND IT WASN'T AN INTENTIONAL THING, IT'S JUST OKAY, I'M 24:45 LOOKING AT THE WORDS IN THE SCRIPTURE, AND I'M LIKE, THAT 24:48 WORD IS PRETTY INTERESTING. AND I WOULD SEE THAT WORD LIKE 24:53 200 DIFFERENT WAYS, AND I WOULD JUST GET LIKE, WOW, THAT IS 25:01 POWERFUL. SO PHOTO-THEOLOGY IS BASICALLY 25:04 WHAT ENDED UP BECOMING THE WAY THAT BIBLE TAUGHT ME HOW TO 25:08 STUDY THE BIBLE. >> WHAT WAS IT LIKE WHEN THAT 25:10 FLIP HAPPENED WHEN YOU FOUND OUT THAT THE SABBATH WAS SATURDAY? 25:15 >> IT WAS -- IT WAS MIND BLOWING. 25:18 >> UH-HUH. >> YOU KNOW, IT WAS -- I FELT 25:26 LIKE I WAS IN THE TWILIGHT ZONE, RIGHT? 25:30 IN A SENSE IT WAS JUST LIKE, HOLD ON, HOW CAN THIS BE TRUE. 25:35 AND REMEMBER AT THIS TIME, I DIDN'T KNOW THERE IS A WHOLE 25:42 MOVEMENT CALLED ADVENTISM. SO I'M THINKING HOW CAN EVERYONE 25:47 HAVE THIS WRONG. AND FOR A LITTLE WHILE, I WAS 25:51 LIKE ME AND MY FRIENDS AND THIS GUY ARE THE ONLY ONES ON THE 26:00 PLANET -- [ LAUGHTER ] 26:02 >> AND NOW IT IS UP TO US. TO LET THE WORLD KNOW. 26:08 YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST FOR A LITTLE WHILE, AND THEN I WAS 26:11 LIKE, OKAY, THERE'S A WHOLE MOVEMENT. 26:14 OKAY. [ LAUGHTER ] 26:15 >> ISN'T IT AMAZING HOW MANY TIMES YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU 26:20 HAVE THAT VOID. YOU KNOW THAT SOMETHING IS 26:23 MISSING, OR MAYBE YOU ARE JUST GOING THROUGH LIFE, AND YOU 26:26 DON'T REALLY REALIZE WHAT IS MISSING UNTIL YOU GET IT, AND 26:30 THEN WHEN YOU GET IT, WHAT AN AMAZING FEELING THAT IS. 26:33 LIKE HERE YOU ARE, JUST ABSORBING ALL OF THE INFORMATION 26:37 LIKE A SPONGE, AND IT'S SO EXCITING TO YOU, BECAUSE THIS IS 26:42 SOMETHING REALLY -- NEW FOR YOU. YOU ARE IN CHURCH AND YOU ARE 26:47 HEARING ALL OF THE TRUTHS. AND MANY TIME WE AS MEMBERS TAKE 26:51 THINGS FOR GRANTED. YOU KNOW, YOU HEAR THINGS, AND 26:55 HEAR SERMONS, AND YOU CAN TAKE IT FOR GRANTED. 27:00 YOU CAN TAKE THE TRUTHS FOR GRANTED IF YOUR RELATIONSHIP 27:04 WITH THE LORD IS NOT REMAINING FRESH. 27:06 >> YEAH. I'LL TELL YOU, I HEARD -- BEFORE 27:09 I BECAME AN ADVENTIST, WHEN I WAS GROWING UP AS A YOUNG PERSON 27:13 AND GETTING INTO COLLEGE, I WOULD HEAR DIFFERENT RELIGIOUS 27:19 GROUPS -- WE HAD PEOPLE COME TO OUR CAMPUS AND SPEAK. 27:25 AND I WAS ALWAYS LIKE THAT MESSAGE SOUNDS STUPID. 27:29 I WAS IN A SENSE SKEPTICAL OF RELIGION. 27:34 YOU KNOW, YOU SAY BE GOOD. YOU SAY BE GOOD, SO WHY CHOOSE 27:38 ONE OVER THE OTHER, AND ALL OF THIS IS JUST LIKE, YOU CAN NEVER 27:43 KNOW WHAT TRUTH IS. SO I WAS SPECTACLE AGAINST ALL 27:49 RELIGIONS, BUT WHEN I HEARD THIS, IT SCARED ME, BECAUSE IT 27:52 MADE SO MUCH SENSE. >> HUM. 27:57 >> AND I WAS LIKE HOW DID THIS ESCAPE ME? 28:02 IT JUST HAD A RING OF TRUTH IT TO THAT A SKEPTICAL MIND HEARING 28:08 IT, WAS LIKE, WOE, THIS IS TRUE. THIS IS TRUE. 28:12 >> UH-HUH. >> AND I'LL TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, 28:15 WHEN -- WHEN I STARTED STUDYING, I WAS -- THE AMOUNT OF 28:20 INFORMATION I LEARNED IN ABOUT THREE MONTH'S TIME, I WAS -- I 28:27 WAS TOTALLY BLOWN AWAY. >> HUM. 28:31 >> HUM. >> AND I WAS LIKE I CANNOT 28:35 BELIEVE HOW MUCH I HAVE LEARNED IN THREE MONTHS, SO WHEN I WOULD 28:38 GO TO CHURCH, I WOULD LOOK AT OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAD BEEN IN THE 28:43 CHURCH FOR TEN YEARS, 20 YEARS, AND I ALMOST WOULD WANT TO FALL 28:47 DOWN AND WORSHIP, LIKE, WHAT MUST YOU KNOW? 28:50 BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN IN THE CHURCH FOR A WHOLE TEN YEARS! 28:54 AND I WOULD JUST PASS OUT, LIKE -- I WILL NEVER CATCH UP TO 29:00 THEM. I WILL NEVER. 29:01 BECAUSE WHAT I HAVE LEARNED IN THREE MONTHS. 29:03 AND I'M JUST THINKING EVERYBODY -- EVERYBODY IN THE 29:08 CHURCH IS JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, DON'T EVEN TRY TO TOUCH ON THAT. 29:14 THAT'S MY BOY HENRY OVER THERE. HE HAS BEEN AN ADVENTIST FOR 20 29:21 YEARS. DON'T TOUCH HIM. 29:22 YOU CANNOT TOUCH HIM. >> YOU WERE PASSIONATE ABOUT THE 29:27 GOSPEL FROM THE MOMENT YOU FOUND OUT ABOUT IT. 29:29 >> FROM THE MOMENT. FROM THE MOMENT, YEAH. 29:32 >> SO HOW DID YOU BEGIN TO STUDY IT? 29:36 HOW DID YOU -- IN THREE MONTH'S TIME YOU ARE I SAYING YOU KNEW 29:44 MORE THAN YOU COULD HAVE IMAGINED. 29:46 HOW DID YOU -- DID YOU HAVE A SYSTEM THEN? 29:49 WELL, LET ME GO BACK FOR A SECOND. 29:53 WHEN YOU WERE IN SCHOOL, WERE YOU A GOOD STUDENT? 29:56 >> I WAS A GOOD STUDENT. THE THING IS MY -- I THINK MY 30:02 PASSION -- GROWING UP I WANTED TO BE INTO PSYCHOLOGY. 30:06 I LIKED HOW THE HUMAN MIND WORKED. 30:09 I WAS REALLY LIKE A THINKER. I LIKED TO THINK ABOUT THE WAY 30:13 PEOPLE THINK AND HOW TO DISSECT THE MIND AND THAT KIND OF THING, 30:17 YOU KNOW, PEOPLE'S THOUGHTS OR WHATEVER. 30:20 AND SO THAT'S WHERE MY PASSION WAS REALLY GROWING UP, LIKE, 30:24 YEAH, I THINK THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, SO I THINK 30:27 THERE WAS ALWAYS A LEANING TOWARDS JUST THAT CREATIVITY OF 30:33 THE MIND >> UH-HUH. 30:35 >> AND AS I SAID EARLIER, WHEN -- WHEN I WAS WRITING 30:39 LYRICS, YOU KNOW, JUST -- IF -- YOU HAVE TO BE 30:44 POETICAL, RIGHT? SO THE WAY THAT I WOULD WRITE MY 30:47 MUSIC, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO FIND DIFFERENT WAYS, CREATIVE WAYS TO 30:51 GET ACROSS A CERTAIN POINT. WHEN IT CAME TO THE BIBLE, LIKE 30:55 I SAID, I DIDN'T HAVE A SYSTEM. I DIDN'T KNOW THIS IS WHAT I WAS 31:00 DOING, BECAUSE MY MIND JUST WORKED THAT WAY. 31:02 SO I WOULD READ A TEXT AND SOMETHING WOULD JUMP OUT TO ME 31:05 THAT I WOULD BE LIKE, WOE. LOOK AT THIS. 31:09 LIKE THERE'S -- BUT I DIDN'T -- I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS 31:13 A NORMAL -- LIKE EVERYONE SAW THIS. 31:15 >> RIGHT. >> UH-HUH. 31:16 >> SO WHEN I WOULD START SHARING SOME OF THIS STUFF WITH OTHER 31:19 PEOPLE WHO ARE ADVENTISTS, THEY WERE LIKE, OH, I NEVER SAW IT 31:24 THAT WAY BEFORE. AND I WOULD LOOK AT THEM LIKE, 31:27 WHAT DO YOU MEAN? LIKE -- YES, IT'S RIGHT THERE, 31:31 DON'T YOU SEE IT? NO, NO, NO. 31:34 I NEVER SAW THAT. I STARTED STUDYING USING AMAZING 31:39 FACTS STUDY GUIDES -- ACTUALLY IT WAS JOE CRUZ THOSE LITTLE 31:47 PAMPHLETS THAT HE WROTE. AND I WOULD GET THOSE LITTLE 31:50 BOOKS AND READ AND HIGHLIGHT MY BIBLE. 31:53 LIKE MY BIBLE WAS LIKE A COLORING BOOK, AND THAT'S HOW I 31:57 LEARNED THE BASICS AS FAR AS DOCTRINE, BUT LIKE I SAID, I 32:01 DIDN'T REALIZE THAT-- AT THAT TIME -- IT'S ONLY AS I LOOKED 32:05 BACK THAT I SAW THAT I WAS -- THAT I THINK THE LORD 32:10 CALLED ME IN A CERTAIN SENSE BECAUSE I WAS COMING FROM THE 32:14 OUTSIDE -- >> UH-HUH. 32:16 >> -- BECAUSE I HAD MIND THAT HAD NOT BEEN BROUGHT UP IN THE 32:19 CHURCH, IF YOU WILL, SO I WAS GOING TO SEE THINGS DIFFERENTLY, 32:23 JUST NATURALLY. >> YES. 32:26 YES. >> AND HE WOULD EVENTUALLY LEAD 32:30 ME TO DEVELOP THAT INTO A SYSTEM. 32:31 >> UH-HUH. >> SO AS I LOOK BACK, THAT'S HOW 32:35 I SEE THIS UNFOLDING. IT'S LIKE I SAID I HAVE A NEW 32:40 SCHOOL OF THOUGHT. THAT WAS JUST THE WAY I 32:44 APPROACHED THE SCRIPTURE, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST NORMAL. 32:47 >> YES.-BUT YOU HAVE THE CLEAN SLATE. >> YES. 32:50 >> YOU CAME IN WITHOUT ANY PRECONCEPTIONS, REALLY, YOU JUST 32:57 CAME IN AND -- LORD, JUST SHOW ME. 33:00 >> YEAH. >> -- AND HE DID. 33:04 SO I KNOW PEOPLE ARE PROBABLY SAYING WHY ARE THEY TALKING 33:07 ABOUT THIS SYSTEM. SO TELL US, HOW DO YOU START? 33:11 IF SOMEONE IS WATCHING RIGHT NOW THAT HAS NEVER STUDIED THE BIBLE 33:19 BEFORE, WHERE DO YOU START? >> I'LL SHARE SOMETHING 33:22 PRACTICAL RIGHT NOW. >> UH-HUH. 33:24 >> ONE OF THE THINGS THEY USE RIGHT NOW, WHEN I STUDY THE 33:28 BIBLE -- AND I HAVE BEEN USING IT FOR YEARS IS BIBLE SOFTWARE. 33:33 SOMETHING CALLED E-SORT. IT'S A FREE SOFTWARE -- NOW 33:37 THERE ARE OTHER SOFTWARES OUT THERE THAT YOU CAN PURCHASE, AND 33:42 THEY ARE QUITE EXPENSIVE. SOME RUN LIKE THOUSANDS OF 33:47 DOLLARS, AND SO IT'S PRETTY EXPENSIVE. 33:51 E-SORT IS PRETTY MUCH FREE. I THINK AT SOME PLACES IT MIGHT 33:57 COST $10 OR $5 OR SOMETHING. BUT IT'S A VERY POWERFUL TOOL 34:01 BECAUSE IT BASICALLY BRINGS THE BIBLE, YOU KNOW, TO YOUR 34:05 FINGERTIPS, RIGHT? YOU CAN HAV DIFFERENT 34:09 TRANSLATIONS, DIFFERENT COMMENTARIES, DICTIONARIES. 34:13 YOU CAN LOOK UP A WORD IN GREEK OR HEBREW, SO IT'S VERY 34:17 TECHNICAL, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE REALLY 34:22 DON'T KNOW ABOUT. BACK IN THE DAY, I WOULD STUDY 34:29 MY BIBLE WITH THE BIBLE AND A CONCORDANCE. 34:35 AND IT WOULD TAKE HOURS. AND YOU ARE TRYING TO FIND A 34:38 WORD THAT IS FOUND IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT PLACES IN THE 34:43 SCRIPTURES. WELL, NOW YOU CAN DO ALL OF THAT 34:45 RIGHT THERE AT YOUR FINGERTIPS. >> YEAH. 34:48 YEAH. >> ON THE TECHNICAL SIDE, I 34:52 WOULD SAY GET A GOOD SOFTWARE. AGAIN, I USE E-SWORD, AND YOU 34:59 CAN DOWNLOAD IT ON YOUR COMPUTER. 35:03 OR WHATEVER SOFTWARE YOU CHOOSE, GET IT. 35:06 SO THAT IS THE TECHNICAL SIDE. IT TAKES A WHILE TO LEARN HOW TO 35:10 USE IT, BUT ONCE YOU LEARN HOW TO USE IT, IT REALLY AMPLIFIES 35:14 YOUR BIBLE STUDY IN A POWERFUL WAY. 35:17 >> YES. >> SO BEYOND THAT, WHAT YOU 35:24 NEED -- LET ME START THIS WAY. SO I HAVE A MINISTRY -- ANOTHER 35:28 MINISTRY CALLED ARMY BIBLE CAMP. AND ARMY BIBLE CAMP, I STARTED 35:32 IT PROBABLY ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO NOW. 35:36 AND IT WAS BECAUSE PEOPLE KEPT ASKING ME, PASTOR, HOW DO YOU 35:39 STUDY THE BIBLE? HOW DID YOU SEE THAT? 35:42 >> UH-HUH. >> HOW DID YOU GET THAT? 35:44 I HAVE READ THAT STORY LIKE A HUNDRED TIMES -- 35:47 >> WE HAVE HEARD YOUR SERMONS, IS WE KNOW. 35:51 >> AND WE SAY THAT ON SALVATION SYMBOLS AND SIGNS. 36:01 I HAVE READ THAT SAME SCRIPTURE OVER AND OVER, AND HOW DID YOU 36:06 COME TO THAT? >> YEAH, I NEVER HAD AN ANSWER 36:09 READY FOR PEOPLE. IT WAS JUST LIKE, WELL, THAT'S 36:11 HOW I STUDY THE BIBLE. AND WHEN PEOPLE STARTED ASKING 36:14 ME MORE AND MORE, I WAS LIKE, I NEED TO THINK ABOUT WHAT I'M 36:19 DOING. LIKE, HOW AM I GOING THROUGH 36:21 THIS PROCESS? AND THIS IS THE PROCESS THAT 36:24 LEAD ME TO THIS SYSTEM CALLED PHOTO-THEOLOGY. 36:28 THE STUDY OF THE WORD OF GOD THROUGH THE USE OF PICTURES. 36:32 ONE OF THE -- AND THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT PRINCIPLES IN THIS 36:39 SYSTEM, BUT LET ME -- I'M GOING TO SHARE A STATEMENT WITH YOU, 36:41 AND I'M GOING TO SEE WHAT -- WHAT COMES TO YOUR MIND 36:45 WHEN I SHARE THIS STATEMENT. SO IT'S TAKEN FROM [ INAUDIBLE ] 36:51 APRIL 16TH, 1889, AND IT SAYS TAKE YOUR BIBLE, AND COMPARE 36:58 PASSAGE WITH PASSAGE AND VESE WITH VERSE AND YOU WILL FIND THE 37:03 PRECIOUS JEWELS OF TRUTH. YOU SHOULD PUT THE PRECIOUS GEMS 37:09 OF LIGHT IN A BEAUTIFUL SETTING AND HANG THEM IN MEMORY'S HALL. 37:13 THAT'S A QUOTE. >> HUM. 37:16 >> WHAT CAME TO YOUR MIND WHEN I READ THAT? 37:19 >> A PICTURE. >> OKAY. 37:21 WHAT KIND OF A PICTURE? >> UM -- 37:24 >> HANG THEM IN MEMORY'S HALL. >> MEMORY'S HALL. 37:29 YEAH. BUT THE ASSOCIATION. 37:31 >> UH-HUH. >> DID YOU SEE -- I DON'T KNOW 37:34 ABOUT YOU, BUT I SEE A HALL -- MEMORY'S HALL. 37:37 THAT BRINGS TO MY MIND A PICTURE, RIGHT? 37:40 AND NOW I'M SEEING A HALL IN MY MIND -- I'M A VISUAL PERSON. 37:47 I'M SEEING A HALL -- I'M A PERSON THAT LIKES PICTURES, 37:50 RIGHT? SO I'M SEEING A HALL IN MY MIND, 37:53 AND I'M BEING TOLD THAT I SHOULD TAKE DIFFERENT TRUTHS, DIFFERENT 37:57 STORIES IN THE BIBLE AND HANG THEM IN MEMORY'S HALL. 38:04 NOW, THIS SYSTEM OF -- OF BIBLE STUDY THAT I HAVE, 38:11 PHOTO-THEOLOGY, SO I'M NOW TRAINING PEOPLE, THIS IS HOW 38:13 YOU -- YOU DO THIS, RIGHT? SO -- LIKE I SAID, IT'S AN 38:19 ENTIRE SYSTM, AND ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I SHARE IS THIS 38:23 CONCEPT OF MEMORY'S HALL. WHEN I WAS YOUNGER, THERE WAS A 38:26 CARD GAME I PLAYED CALLED CONCENTRATION. 38:29 >> OH, YEAH. >> ALL OF THE CARDS ARE FACING 38:32 DOWN, AND YOU TURN ONE CARD, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO FIND THE 38:36 MATCHING CARD. YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER, WHERE DID 38:39 I SEE THAT CARD BEFORE? AND SO YOU FLIP, YOU FLIP, 38:44 THAT'S A MATCH. RIGHT? 38:46 >> YEAH. >> IN ESSENCE THAT IS THE ART OF 38:52 PHOTO-THEOLOGY, SO LET'S PLAY CONCENTRATION. 38:55 OKAY?-I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A PICTURE. MOSES GOES ON TOP OF A MOUNTAIN. 39:00 HE TELLS JOSHUA, YOU ARE MIGHTING THE MALI KITEDS BELOW. 39:11 I'M GOING TO GO UP TO THE MOUNTAIN, AND WHEN I LIFT MY 39:14 HANDS WITH THE ROD -- WHEN I LIFT MY HANDS -- WHEN I LIFT MY 39:18 HANDS WITH THE ROD IN MY HAND, YOU ARE GOING TO EXPERIENCE 39:22 VICTORY. WHEN I LIFT MY HANDS, WHEN I 39:25 LIFT MY HANDS. WHEN MY HANDS ARE CONNECTED TO 39:29 WOOD, AND I HAVE LIFTED MY HANDS. 39:32 >> OH, YES. >> YOU ARE GOING TO EXPERIENCE 39:35 VICTORY. EVERY TIME HIS HANDS COME DOWN, 39:37 NO VICTORY. EVERY TIME HIS HANDS GO UP, BOTH 39:42 HANDS ARE CONNECTED TO THE ROD, TO WOOD, THERE IS VICTORY. 39:46 >> WOE. >> YOU ARE SAYING WOW, AND I 39:52 HAVEN'T SAID ANYTHING. I'M JUST GIVING YOU THE STORY. 39:55 >> I HAVE A PICTURE. >> AND NOW MOSES'S HANDS BEGIN 40:00 TO GET TIRED SO ERIN STANDS ON ONE SIDE OF HIM, HARRAH HANDS ON 40:06 THE OTHER SIDE OF HIM. MOSES IS ON A ROCK. 40:11 HIS HANDS ARE EXTENDED HIS ARMS EXTENDED. 40:18 ON EITHER SIDE OF HIM IS ERIN AND HERR AND THEY HOLD HIS HANDS 40:25 UP. ALL I HAVE DONE IS GIVEN YOU A 40:27 PICTURE OF A STORY YOU ALREADY KNOW. 40:30 BUT SOMETHING JUST HAPPENED. BECAUSE AS I WAS EXPLAINING THAT 40:34 STORY, YOU WERE SAYING HOLD ON HOLD ON WAIT A MINUTE, WAIT A 40:37 MINUTE, AND WHAT HAPPENED IS YOU RAN DOWN MEMORY'S HALL AND YOU 40:41 WERE LIKE, I HAVE SEEN THAT PICTURE SOMEPLACE ELSE. 40:45 >> COME ON. >> AND YOU ARE LIKE HOLD ON, 40:48 WAIT A MINUTE. AND WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? 40:52 WHY ARE YOU SMILING? >> BECAUSE YOU SEE JESUS ON THE 40:55 CROSS WITH HIS ARMS OUTSTRETCHED. 41:01 >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> YEP. 41:02 >> AND NOW WE KNOW BECAUSE OF THOSE HANDS THAT WERE EXTENDED 41:06 ON THE CROSS, WE CAN HAVE VICTORY IN OUR FIGHT. 41:10 >> OH, THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S GOOD. 41:14 >> WE CAN HAVE VICTORY IN OUR FIGHT. 41:16 >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> THAT'S WHY WE HAVE VICTORY IN 41:20 OUR BATTLE AGAINST THE FLESH AND THE PRINCIPALITIES OF THIS 41:23 WORLD, BECAUSE OF WHAT CHRIST DID ON THE CROSS, AND NOW I KNOW 41:27 SOMETHING ELSE TOO FROM THIS STORY. 41:28 IT'S NOT THE NAILS THAT HELD HIS HANDS UP -- 41:31 >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> IT WAS THE SINNER ON EITHER 41:35 SIDE OF HIM THAT HELD HIS HANDS UP. 41:38 JUST AS AARON AND HERR STOOD THERE TO HOLD UP MOSES'S HANDS, 41:43 IT WAS THE SINNER ON EITHER SIDE OF HIM. 41:46 IN OTHER WORDS JESUS DIED FOR THE WHOLE WORLD. 41:52 THOSE WHO WOULD ACCEPT HIM AND THOSE WHO WOULD REJECT HIM. 41:56 SO WHAT HAVE WE JUST DONE IN WE JUST PLAYED A GAME. 41:59 THE GAME IS CALLED CONCENTRATION. 42:02 I SEE THIS STORY IN THE BIBLE, AND I'M TRYING TO -- I'M 42:06 LEARNING HOW TO THINK IN PICTURES. 42:08 >> UH-HUH? >> THAT'S ALL WE JUST DID. 42:10 IF YOU HAD A SERMON TO PREACH NOW, AND NO ONE EVER WATCHED 42:14 THIS, YOU COULD BE LIKE, I'M GOING TO CREATE -- 42:19 [ LAUGHTER ] >> JASON, HOW DID YOU SEE THAT? 42:23 >> DON'T BE SURPRISED IF HE GOES TO PREACH THAT. 42:27 >> I WON'T PREACH AT A CHURCH WHERE YOU PREACH IT. 42:32 >> BUT PHOTO T-PHOTO-THEOLOGY. IT'S THE SIMPLE ART OF HAVING 42:37 THESE PICTURES IN YOUR MIND AND THEN LEARNING HOW TO CONNECT THE 42:42 PICTURES TO REVEAL A STORY. >> HUM. 42:45 >> HUM. >> THAT IS ONE OF THE 42:50 PRINCIPLES, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY A MAJOR PRINCIPLE. 42:53 BECAUSE THE MORE YOU LEARN -- AND HERE IS THE 42:56 PROBLEM. A LOT OF US -- YOU KNOW, IF YOU 42:58 DON'T HAVE PICTURES HANGING IN MEMORY'S HALL, YOU ARE NOT GOING 43:03 TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THESE CONNECTIONS. 43:05 >> RIGHT. >> UH-HUH. 43:06 >> AND THAT'S WHY ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS YOU WANT TO DO IS 43:11 LEARN HOW TO HANG THIS PICTURES IN YOUR HALL, RIGHT? 43:14 LOCK THEM IN YOUR MIND, BECAUSE YOU MAY NOT EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT 43:17 THE PICTURE IS ABOUT RIGHT NOW, BUT PUT IT THERE, BECAUSE 43:20 SOMETHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN ONE DAY. 43:22 ONE DAY YOU ARE GOING TO MINDING YOUR OWN BUSINESS, WASHING 43:26 DISHES OR SOMETHING, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN A PICTURE IS GOING TO 43:29 COME TO YOUR MIND, AND YOU ARE GOING TO BE LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE, 43:33 WAIT A MINUTE. THAT PICTURE ADDS TO -- THAT 43:36 PICTURE MATCHES THIS PICTURE. ONE OF MY FAVORITE PICTURES, AND-I HAD THIS PICTURE HANGING IN MY 43:42 HALL FOR A LONG TIME. AND NOW IT'S LIKE THAT'S A 43:47 MESSED UP STORY. IT IS THE STORY OF DAVID AND 43:53 BATHSHEBA. AND DAVID HAS BATHSHEBA'S 43:55 HUSBAND KILLED. WHY? 43:57 BECAUSE BATHSHEBA IS PREGNANT WITH DAVID'S CHILD. 44:01 HE HAS HER HUSBAND KILLED SO THAT HE COVERS IT UP, AND THEN 44:06 THE PROPHET NATHAN COMES TO HIM AND GIVES HIM THIS WHOLE PARABLE 44:11 AND TELLS HIM YOU ARE THE MAN OF THIS PARABLE, BASICALLY EXPOSING 44:17 DAVID. I KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE DONE. 44:19 DAVID REPENTS, HE IS TOTALLY SORRY, AND NATHAN SAYS, YOU WILL 44:25 LIVE. AND PRAISE GOD. 44:27 DAVID REPENTS AND GOD TELLS NATHAN TO TELL DAVID THAT HE IS 44:37 GOING TO LIVE. BUT THE CHILD OF BATHSHEBA IS 44:41 GOING TO DIE. AND I HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT MESSED 44:43 UP STORY. SO I HAD THAT PICTURE HANGING IN 44:47 MEMORY'S HALL FOR A LONG TIME. AND ONE DAY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT 44:50 OR HOW, BUT I WAS LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE, THAT CHILD DOESN'T HAVE 44:54 A NAME. WE DON'T KNOW WHO THE CHILD IS. 44:57 THE ONLY THING WE KNOW IS THAT IT WAS A MALE, SO THIS WOULD 45:01 HAVE BEEN THE SON OF DAVID. >> HUM. 45:08 >> SO THE SON OF DAVID WAS BROUGHT INTO THIS WORLD BECAUSE 45:14 OF SOMEBODY ELSE'S SIN, AND THOUGH HE HAD DONE NO WRONG, 45:22 DIED WHILE DAVID GOT TO LIVE. >> WOW. 45:26 >> ALL OF A SUDDEN, I'M LIKE, WOE. 45:29 YOU MEAN THAT LITTLE BOY, WHO WE DON'T KNOW -- WE DON'T KNOW HIS 45:34 NAME, WE DON'T -- THAT LITTLE BOY WAS A TYPE OF THE VERY WORK 45:38 THAT JESUS WAS TO DO, BECAUSE JESUS, WE KNOW IN THE NEW 45:43 TESTAMENT, WHAT IS HE CALLED? HE IS CALLED THE SON OF DAVID. 45:47 HE WAS BROUGHT INTO THIS WORLD BECAUSE OF OUR SIN, AND THOUGH 45:51 HE WAS INNOCENT ANDHAD DONE NO WRONG, HE DIED THAT WE MIGHT 45:56 LIVE. >> WOW. 45:57 >> HUM. >> AND SO YOU BEGIN TO SEE THESE 46:00 STORIES IN THE BIBLE THAT ARE -- YOU KNOW, YOU THINK, 46:03 YEAH, THAT STORY DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING, YOU JUST THROW IT TO 46:07 THE SIDE, BUT GOD WASTES NOTHING. 46:09 SO THESE STORIES IN THE SCRIPTURES THAT WE TEND TO GLOSS 46:16 OVER, WHEN WE STOP AND BEGIN TO THINK, OKAY, WHAT IS GOD TRYING 46:21 TO SHOW ME HERE? ONE OF THE EXAMPLES I LIKE TO 46:25 GIVE IS THIS. IMAGINE WE'RE IN A PRIMITIVE 46:30 SOCIETY, AND A CAMERA DROPS RIGHT IN THE MIDST -- SOMEONE 46:36 SLIDES OVER AND DROPS A CAMERA IN THE MIDST OF OUR SOCIETY. 46:40 AND WE'RE LIKE WHAT IS THAT? WE HAVE NEVER SEEN IT BEFORE, 46:43 AND AFTER A FEW WEEKS OR MONTHS SOMEONE GETS BOLD ENOUGH TOUCH 46:49 IT, AND IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING. AND IT ISN'T GOING TO HURT US. 46:55 AND NOW THIS IS A THING THAT WE ARE JUST IN AH OF. 47:03 IS THAT PRIMITIVE SOCIETY USING THE CAMERA IN THE RIGHT WAY? 47:07 >> NO. >> WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE 47:11 CAMERA? >> TO TAKE PICTURES. 47:12 >> TO TAKE PICTURES. THE STORIES OF THE BIBLE ARE 47:19 CAMERAS THAT REVEAL THE PICTURE OF JESUS. 47:22 >> WOW. >> MOST OF US APPROACH THESE 47:25 STORIES AND JUST LOOK AT THE CAMERA. 47:29 WHAT A NEAT CAMERA. WOW, THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL CAMERA. 47:33 HEY, LOOK AT THIS CAMERA. MAN, THESE CAMERAS ARE GREAT. 47:37 NOT REALIZING THAT THESE CAMERAS WERE DESIGNED TO SHOW US JESUS. 47:43 >> HUH. >> SO IN ESSENCE, WE END UP 47:47 MISSING THE -- >> PICTURE. 47:48 >> PICTURE. >> WOW. 47:50 >> THAT'S WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING. 47:52 WE OFTEN READ THE BIBLE AND MISS THE PICTURE OF JESUS. 47:58 LIKE, YOU GUYS REMEMBER -- AND THIS IS ONE OF MY STRONG BELIEFS 48:02 WHEN IT COMES TO PHOTO-THEOLOGY. PHOTO-THEOLOGY IS THE ART OF 48:06 LOOKING FOR JESUS.->> HUM. >> IT'S THE ART OF LOOKING FOR 48:11 JESUS. SO ON THE ROAD, DO YOU REMEMBER 48:13 THE DISCIPLES, THEY WERE HEART BROKEN BECAUSE JESUS HAD JUST 48:19 DIED. >> RIGHT. 48:20 >> JESUS COMES TO THEM, BUT THEY DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S HIM. 48:25 THEY CAN'T RECOGNIZE HIM. AND HE BEGINS -- THEY BEGIN 48:29 TELLING HIM -- HE IS LIKE, WHY ARE YOU SO SAD? 48:32 THEY BEGIN TELLING HIM ALL OF THE REASONS WHY THEY ARE SAD AND 48:37 DISCOURAGED, AND THEN HE -- HE SAYS TO THEM BELIEVE ALL THAT 48:44 THE PROPHETS HAVE SAID, SHOULD NOT THESE THINGS HAVE BEEN 48:48 FULFILLED. THE BIBLE SAYS BEGINNING FROM 48:50 MOSES AND THE PRO PROPHETS HE BEGAN TO PROFOUND TO HIMSELF IN 48:55 THE SCRIPTURES, ALL OF THE THINGS CONCERNING HIMSELF. 48:58 HE IS GIVING THESE DISCOURAGED DISCIPLES, A BIBLE STUDY. 49:04 THEY JUST LOST THE GUY THEY THOUGHT WAS THE MESSIAH. 49:07 >> RIGHT. >> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, AND 49:10 SOMEONE DIES THAT YOU ARE CLOSE TO, YOU ARE PROBABLY NOT IN THE 49:14 MOOD -- YOU JUST WANT TO MOURN. JESUS DECIDES TO PULL THEM OUT 49:18 OF THEIR MOURNING BY GIVING THEM A BIBLE STUDY. 49:22 THAT BIBLE STUDY MUST HAVE BEEN SO DEEP AND POWERFUL, BECAUSE IT 49:27 WAS BURN, THEY WERE LIKE, DID NOT OUR HEARTS BURN. 49:34 >> YES. >> BECAUSE JESUS BEGAN TO SHOW 49:36 THEM HIMSELF IN ALL OF THE SCRIPTURES, BEGINNING AT MOSES 49:42 AND THE PROPHETS THE EXPOUNDS HIMSELF. 49:46 THAT MEANS THAT JESUS IS ALL OVER THE OLD TESTAMENT. 49:49 IT'S LIKE WALLDO. >> I USED TO LOVE THOSE BOOKS. 49:59 >> YOU KNOW THAT WALDO IS IN THERE SOMEWHERE. 50:03 SO WHEN I READ THE SCRIPTURE, PHOTO-THEOLOGY IS THE ART OF 50:07 LOOKING FOR JESUS ON EVERY PAGE OF THE SCRIPTURES, BEGINNING 50:10 FROM MOSES AND THE PROPHET. IN GENESIS 1, GOD SAID LET THERE 50:17 BE LIGHT. JESUS IS LIGHT. 50:21 IN GENESIS 2, GOD MAKES WATER PROMINENT. 50:27 I'M SORRY ON DAY 2. ON DAY 3, THE BIBLE SAYS THAT 50:32 GOD BROUGHT THE FRUITS FROM THE EARTH. 50:37 ON THE THIRD DAY, THE FIRST FRUITS -- 50:41 >> WOW. >> WOW, LOOK AT THAT. 50:46 YES. >> FROM THE GROUND. 50:47 THE THIRD DAY -- >> OH, MY. 50:49 [ LAUGHTER ] >> ISN'T IT SOMETHING HOW YOU 50:51 CAN READ THAT AND JUST NOT CONNECT THE DOTS. 50:55 >> UH-HUH. >> BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT -- YOU 50:58 HAVE HEARD THE SAYING A PICTURE IS WORTH -- 51:01 >> A THOUSAND WORDS. >> UH-HUH. 51:04 >> GODS IS INTO PICTURES. JUST LOOK AT THE BOOK OF 51:08 REVELATION. IT'S ALL ABOUT IMAGES. 51:11 LOOK AT THE BOOK OF DANIEL, GOD IS INTO PICTURES. 51:15 GOD IS CREATIVE BY NATURE, AND SO OFTEN WE APPROACH THE 51:21 SCRIPTURES WITH THIS -- YOU KNOW, NARROW -- HERE IS WHAT THE 51:26 TEXT SAYS, AND WE STOP RIGHT THERE. 51:29 AND, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT -- IT IS A CHALLENGE WHEN YOU APPROACH 51:32 THE SCRIPTURES, BECAUSE YOU -- WHAT THE TEXT SAYS 51:37 ABSOLUTELY IMPORTANT, OKAY? >> UH-HUH. 51:39 >> BUT THERE IS A DIMENSION BEYOND THAT -- 51:41 >> RIGHT. >> THAT IS BEYOND ON THE INK ON 51:46 THE PAPER, RIGHT? SO IT'S LIKE WHEN JESUS SAYS 51:51 EXCEPT YOU EAT MY FLESH AND DRINK MY BLOOD. 51:54 THE JEWS ARE LIKE, WHAT? HOW DARE YOU? 51:57 WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT EATING FLESH AND DRINKING BLOOD? 52:02 ARE YOU CRAZY? THEY COULD NOT UNDERSTAND THE 52:06 SPIRITUAL SIGNIFICANCE OF HIS WORDS, SO THEY LOOK LITERALLY 52:10 WHAT HE MEANT TO BE SPIRTUAL OR SYMBOLIC. 52:14 DESTROY THIS TEMPLE AND IN THREE DAYS I'LL RAISE IT UP AGAIN. 52:19 YOU HEAR WHAT THIS GUY SAID? HE SAID HE WOULD DESTROY THIS 52:27 TEMPLE IN THREE DAYS. NOT REALIZING HE WAS TALKING 52:30 ABOUT HIS BODY. SO THE WAY THAT JESUS APPROACHED 52:33 THE SCRIPTURES, HE APPROACHED IT IN A VERY CREATIVE -- BECAUSE HE 52:38 IS THE CREATOR. >> WITH A PARABLE. 52:42 >> WITH A PARABLE. JESUS FAVORITE METHOD OF 52:48 TEACHING WAS THROUGH OBJECT LESSONS. 52:55 WE NEED TO LEARN HOW TO SEE THE BIBLE AS GOD SEES THE BIBLE, 52:59 RIGHT? HOW TO SEE THE BIBLE AS JESUS 53:01 SEES THE BIBLE. A LOT OF TIMES YOU HEAR THE TERM 53:08 EXO-JESUS. WHAT WAS THE AUTHOR THINKING AS 53:09 HE WAS WRITING, RIGHT? SO WHEN YOU ARE READING THE BOOK 53:15 OF DANIEL OR ISAIAH, YOU ARE TRYING TO GET IN THE MIND OF 53:21 ISAIAH, AND WHEN HE WROTE THS, WHO WAS THE LETTER TO? 53:24 AND WHAT DID HE MEAN BY -- YOU ARE GETTING INTO THE MIND OF THE 53:28 AUTHOR, AND THAT'S -- YOU KNOW, PRAISE GOD. 53:31 BUT GUESS WHAT, ISAIAH IS NOT THE ULTIMATE AUTHOR OF THE BOOK 53:37 OF ISAIAH. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ULTIMATE 53:41 AUTHOR, WHICH IS GOD HIMSELF. >> YOEP. 53:47 -- YEP. >> WHICH IS JESUS HIMSELF. 53:51 SO I HAVE TO GET IN THE MIND OF JESUS IF I WANT TO UNDERSTAND 53:55 THE FULL DEPTH OF THE SCRIPTURES, AND WHAT BETTER WAY 53:59 TO HAVE THIS MIND BE IN YOU, WHICH WAS IN CHRIST JESUS? 54:02 >> YES. >> THAT'S WHY STUDYING THE BIBLE 54:06 HELPS US TO RECEIVE THE MIND OF CHRIST. 54:08 ASK DANIEL IF HE UNDERSTOOD HALF OF THE THINGS HE WROTE. 54:14 [ LAUGHTER ] >> I'M GOING TO BE RIGHT WHERE 54:18 DANIEL WAS. I UNDERSTAND NOT. 54:20 RIGHT? >> YEAH. 54:21 >> SO THERE WAS ONE GREATER THAN DANIEL WHO UNDERSTOOD, OKAY, 54:26 WHAT DID GOD INTEND WHEN HE WAS TELLING DANIEL WHAT TO WRITE. 54:31 SO THAT'S WHERE -- YOU KNOW, I REALLY SEE A NEED TO TRY TO GET 54:37 INTO THE MINE OF GOD, TO GET INTO THE MIND OF CHRIST TO 54:41 UNDERSTAND THE SCRIPTURES. THAT CAMERA, THAT BIBLE STORY, 54:47 THAT TEXT, WHERE IS CHRIST IN THIS STORY? 54:50 >> UH-HUH. >> AND THAT'S -- SO THAT WOULD 54:53 BE A JUICED DOWN VERSION THUS FAR OF PHOTO-THEOLOGY. 54:57 >> THAT IS AMAZING. >> IT IS. 54:59 >> I MEAN, REALLY, WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING FOR CHRIST ON EVERY 55:04 PAGE. I REMEMBER YOU CAME AND DID A 55:07 3ABN CAMP MEETING, AND YOU PREACHED A SERIES -- HEART BURN 55:12 AND YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, BUT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW TO 55:16 FIND JESUS ON EVERY PAGE, AND YOU GAVE ILLUSTRATIONS 55:19 THROUGHOUT THE BIBLE, A JUICED DOWN VERSION. 55:22 >> A JUICED-DOWN VERSION. >> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 55:26 AND IT MAKES YOU LOOK AT THE BIBLE IN A WHOLE NEW LIGHT. 55:30 >> YEAH. >> WELL, I LIKE WHAT YOU SAID 55:33 ABOUT -- GOD NEVER WASTES ANYTHING. 55:36 AND, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT. WE KNOW THE WAY HE MOVES, HE 55:40 DOESN'T WASTE -- HE DOESN'T JUST ACCOMPLISH ONE THING. 55:44 HE ACCOMPLISHES MANY THINGS WITH ONE MOVE. 55:46 >> RIGHT. >> SO IT BARES TO REASON THAT HE 55:50 WOULD HAVE THIS WHOLE MULTI-DIMENSIONAL ASPECT IN THE 55:54 WORD. >> UH-HUH. 55:56 >> YOU DIDN'T JUST SAY MULTI-DIMENSIONAL, DID YOU? 56:00 >> I DID. >> YOU DID, DIDN'T YOU?->> OH, WAIT A MINUTE. 56:04 >> AND THAT'S NICE THAT YOU SAID THAT. 56:07 BECAUSE THAT IS ONE OF THE ASPECTS OF PHOTO-THEOLOGY. 56:13 IT'S ANOTHER PRINCIPLE I HAVE CALLED FIVE-DIMENSIONAL BIBLE 56:19 STUDY. >> OH. 56:19 >> SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO -- YOU LEAD. 56:23 >> OKAY. I DO WHEN WE COME BACK.-BECAUSE -- YEAH, I DON'T WANT TO 56:28 START, AND THEN WE TAKE OUR LITTLE BREAK -- 56:30 >> YEAH. >> BUT WHEN YOU THINK 56:32 ABOUT -- WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT GOD AND THE WAY THE BIBLE IS 56:36 WRITTEN, LIKE -- IN OUR SALVATION AND SYMBOLS AND SIGNS, 56:42 IT'S AMAZING TO ME HOW THESE NEW THOUGHTS -- THESE NEW ASPECTS OF 56:47 THE TEXT JUST COME INTO YOUR MIND. 56:51 THE HOLY SPIRIT BRINGS YOU A WHOLE NEW WAY TO LOOK AT THE 56:55 TEXT. >> I REALLY -- IN THE SECOND 56:57 HOUR, I REALLY WANT YOU TO GO OVER DANIEL, THE STATUE, THE 57:02 AMAZING POINT THAT YOU BROUGHT OUT WHILE WE WERE RECORDING -- 57:06 >> WHICH ONE DANIEL 2? >> I BELIEVE IT WAS DANIEL 2. 57:11 YES, THAT STATUE, ABSOLUTELY. >> WE WANT YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT 57:15 YOU CALL PEOPLE AND TELL THEM TO TUNE INTO THIS PROGRAM. 57:18 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE FOUND IS THAT WE ALL NEED TO STUDY THE 57:25 SCRIPTURES TO GET REALLY INTO THE SCRIPTURES DEEPLY, AND MANY 57:29 TIMES WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT. 57:31 SO CALL YOUR FRIENDS -- AS DANNY WOULD SAY -- CALL YOUR FRIENDS, 57:36 YOUR ENEMIES, EVERYBODY, AND TELL THEM TO TUNE IN AND WATCH 57:40 THIS PROGRAM. STAY TUNED. 57:42 WE'RE GOING TO BE RIGHT BACK WITH SOME MORE PRECIOUS INCITES. 57:45 ♪ |
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