¤ I WANT TO SPEND MY
LIFE ¤ ¤ SPEND MY LIFE ¤
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¤ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ¤
¤ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ¤
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¤ REMOVING PAIN ¤ ¤
LORD, LET MY WORDS  ¤
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¤ LET MY WORDS ¤ ¤
HEAL UP HEARTS THAT HURT ¤
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¤ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE
¤ ¤ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ¤
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¤ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE
¤ ¤ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ¤
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>>> HELLO AND
WELCOME TO 3ABN "TODAY LIVE."
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I CAN'T BELIEVE IT, JASON.
THIS IS MY CO-HOST, MY SON --
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>> I KNOW IT. >> --
THE GENERAL MANAGER OF
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DARE TO DREAM
NETWORK. JASON BRADLEY.
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>> IT'S GOOD TO
BE HERE WITH YOU.
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>> I'M SO GLAD YOU
ARE HERE. >> I AM TOO.
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AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT WHAT
WE HAVE IN STORE THIS EVENING.
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>> I KNOW IT. FIRST
OF ALL, WE HAVE BEEN WITH
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OUR GUEST ALL WEEK -- >> UH-HUH.
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>> ALL WEEK. [ LAUGHTER ]
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>> BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN TAPING,
RECORDING OUR NEW SALVATION AND
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SYMBOLS AND
SIGNS SERIES ON DANIEL.
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>> UH-HUH. >> TELL
OUR VIEWERS HAS IT IS
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GOING. >> IT HAS BEEN ABSOLUTELY
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AMAZING.-SEEING THE BOOK OF
DANIEL IN A WHOLE NEW LIGHT, THE
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WAY THAT PASTER MEYERS AND
PASTOR RAFFERTY BREAK DOWN AND
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EXTRAPOLATE THE MEAT THAT IS
CONTAINED IN THE BOOK OF DANIEL
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IS ABSOLUTELY
PHENOMENAL. >> YES.
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>> AND IF YOU WANT TO LEARN HOW
TO STUDY THE BIBLE LIKE THAT,
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WELL, YOU TUNED
INTO THE RIGHT PROGRAM.
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>> THAT'S RIGHT. >>
BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO BE
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TALKING ABOUT HOW
TO STUDY THE BIBLE.
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>> WE ARE. WE ARE.
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I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN WATCHING,
BECAUSE WE GET EMAILS EVERY
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SINGLE DAY ON SALVATION AND
SYMBOLS AND SIGNS, AND WE NOW
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WANT KNOW HOW TO
STUDY GOD'S WORD.
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AND SO PASTOR IVOR
MYERS IS HERE THIS EVENING.
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WELCOME PASTOR IVOR MYERS.
>> GOOD TO BE HERE, GOOD TO BE
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HERE. YET AGAIN.
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YET AGAIN. WE HAVE
BEEN TOGETHER ALL WEEK.
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>> WE HAVE. >> ALL WEEK.
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>> FOR HOURS. >> FOR HOURS.
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[ LAUGHTER ] >> BUT
IT HAS BEEN GOING SO
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BEAUTIFULLY, AND WE ARE SO
GRATEFUL FOR THE INCITES THAT
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YOU AND PASTOR JAMES
RAFFERTY SHARE WITH US.
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JASON AND I ARE THE STUDENTS
OF THE PROGRAM, AND WE KIND
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OF -- YOU KNOW, KEEP
THEM ON -- INSTEAD OF BEING SO
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CEREBRAL, WHICH THEY ARE, BUT
WE KEEP THEM AT, LIKE, VIEWER
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LEVEL. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
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>> WE ASK QUESTIONS THAT WE
THINK YOU WOULD WANT TO KNOW.
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SO WE REALLY, REALLY
APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU DO.
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>> THANK YOU. >> YOU
THE FOUNDER OF POWER OF
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THE LAMB MINISTRIES. >> YES.
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>> AND YOU HAVE AN INTERESTING,
INTERESTING JOURNEY.
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AFTER OUR MUSIC FOR THIS
EVENING, WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR
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ABOUT YOUR JOURNEY. WE
HAVE STEPHANIE DAWN WITH US,
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AND SHE IS GOING TO SING AND
BE ACCOMPANIED BY DAN THORNTON.
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SHE IS GOING TO
SING "SPEECHLESS."
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¤ I'M SPEECHLESS OVERCOME BY JOY
THAT REACHES INTO MY HEART SO
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DEEPLY ¤ ¤ ALMOST
TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE ¤
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¤ IN THIS WONDER
OF YOUR KINDNESS ¤
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¤ I'M SPEECHLESS ¤ ¤
SILENCED BY HOW GOOD YOU ARE
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TO ME ¤ ¤ WHEN
THINGS HAVE BEEN SO
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SHATTERING ¤ ¤ I
COULD NOT USE WORDS ¤
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¤ THERE WAS
COMFORT IN THE KNOW ¤
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¤ THAT YOU WERE THERE ¤ ¤
BUT NOW IT'S ALL GRATITUDE I
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STRUGGLE TO EXPRESS ¤
¤ MY AMAZEMENT AT YOUR
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OVERWHELMING LOVE
AND FAITHFULNESS ¤
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¤ I'M SPEECHLESS ¤ ¤
OVERCOME BY JOY THAT REACHES
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INTO MY HEART SO DEEPLY ¤ ¤
ALMOST TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE ¤
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¤ IN THE QUIET
WONDER OF YOUR KINDNESS ¤
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¤ I'M SPEECHLESS ¤ ¤
SILENCED BY HOW GOOD YOU ARE ¤
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¤ TO ME ¤ ¤ WHEN I
COULD COMPARE WHAT I
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DESERVE TO HOW I
FEEL SO HOPELESS ¤
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¤ I'M IN AWE THAT
INSTEAD I FIND TENDERNESS ¤
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¤ I'M SPEECHLESS ¤
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¤ ¤ IN THIS
QUIET SILENT WONDER OF
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YOUR KINDNESS ¤
¤ I'M SPEECHLESS ¤
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¤ SILENCED BY HOW
GOOD YOU ARE TO ME ¤
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¤ I'M SPEECHLESS ¤ ¤
SILENCED BY HOW GOOD YOU ARE
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TO ME ¤
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>> "SPEECHLESS."
THANK YOU STEPHANIE DAWN FOR
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THAT -- THAT LOVELY
SONG. >> UH-HUH.-p>> LOVELY.
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PASTOR MEYERS LET'S GET TO
IT, AS DANNY SAY, LET'S CUT THIS
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MELON. [ LAUGHTER ]
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>> YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A JOURNEY
THAT -- IN A SENSE IS KIND OF
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SIMILAR TO MINE IN THAT WE
WERE BOTH IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY.
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TELL US ABOUT YOUR BEGINNINGS,
EVEN BEFORE YOU GOT INTO THE
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MUSIC INDUSTRY. DID
YOU GROW UP IN A CHRISTIAN
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HOME? WHAT WAS
YOUR HOME LIFE LIKE?
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>> SO I WAS BORN IN JAMAICA.
I DIDN'T GROW UP IN -- YOU KNOW,
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WE WEREN'T A RELIGIOUS FAMILY,
LIKE GOING TO CHURCH EVERY WEEK
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OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I MEAN WE
WENT TO CHURCH -SOMETIMES, BUT
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IT WAS -- MY PARENTS, YOU KNOW,
GOOD PEOPLE, CAUGHT US TO BE
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RESPECTFUL ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
SO WE GREW UP IN A GOOD HOME.
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MY INTERDIRECTION TO
CHRISTIANITY KIND OF CAME IN
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STAGES. BEGINNING
WITH WHEN I WAS AROUND
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12 YEARS OLD, I HAD, YOU KNOW,
AN EXPERIENCE WITH A COUSIN OF
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MINE WHO CAME OVER TO THE
STATES AND INTRODUCED ME TO THE
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BIBLE -- INTRODUCED ME TO THE
BOOK OF REVELATIONS AND REALLY
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SCARED ME TO DEATH. >>
THAT WAS YOUR INTRODUCTION TO
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THE BIBLE? THE
BOOK OF REVELATIONS.
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>> THAT WAS MY -- I DON'T KNOW
IF YOU WNT TO HEAR THE STORY,
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BUT -- >> YES, GO AHEAD.
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TELL IT. >> I WAS
12 -- NO, I WAS 11.
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I'M SORRY, I WAS 12, MY BROTHER
WAS 11, AND LIKE I SAY, WE
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DIDN'T GO TO CHURCH TOO OFTEN.
AND MY COUSIN CAME FROM ENGLAND.
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SHE IS ABOUT 14 YEARS OLD.
HER NAME IS SUSAN, AND SUSAN
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WOULD TALK TO
US ABOUT THE BIBLE.
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WE JUST FELL IN LOVE
WITH HER IMMEDIATELY.
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IT WAS OUR FIRST
TIME MEETING HER.
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AND BY THIS TIME,
WE WERE IN THE STATES.
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WE WERE IN AMERICA. SO
SUSAN WAS TALKING US TO ABOUT
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THE BIBLE ONE MORNING, BUT THIS
TIME SHE IS TALKING TO US ABOUT
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THIS THING CALLED THE MARK OF
BEAST, AND MY PARENTS WERE NOT
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HOME AT THE TIME.
AND IT WAS JUST ME AND MY
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BROTHER AND SUSAN AT HOME,
AND SHE'S TELLING US ABOUT THIS
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THING IN THE BOOK OF REVELATION
CALLED THE MARK OF THE BEAST,
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AND MY BROTHER AND I -- AS SHE'S
TALKING, MY BROTHER AND I ARE
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LIKE, NO, THIS
CAN'T BE HAPPENING.
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WHY? BECAUSE THAT
SUMMER WE HAD JUST
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WATCHED A MOVIE ABOUT A LITTLE
BOY WHO DISCOVERS HE IS THE
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ANTICHRIST. >> OH, NO.
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>> AND HE WAS FROM
ENGLAND, AS FAR AS I REMEMBER.
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>> OH, NO. >> AND HE
HAD 666 WRITTEN IN HIS
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FOREHEAD, SO ANYONE THAT
DISCOVERS HIS IDENTITY DIES A
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HORRENDOUS -- JUST PAINFUL,
LIKE, JUST CRAZY DEATH, LIKE
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GETTING HIT BY A TRUCK, AND THE
TRUCK DOESN'T KILL HIM, AND A
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CROW COMES OUT OF NOWHERE.
AND THEY WERE JUST LIKE -- AND
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THEIR DEATH WOLD
JUST BE SO HORRENDOUS.
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SO AFTER WE SAW THAT MOVIE, MY
BROTHER AND I DECIDED WE NEVER
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WANTED TO KNOW WHAT
THE MARK OF THE BEAST WAS.
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>> WOW, THAT WAS
YOUR INTRODUCTION.
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>> THAT WAS OUR INTRODUCTION.
MY COUSIN WAS LIKE, I KNO WHAT
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THE MARK OF THE BEAST IS.
DO YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE
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MARK OF THE BEAST IS? AND
WE WERE LIKE, WE'RE ABOUT TO
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DIE. AND THEN
SHE BEGINS TO TELL US
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THAT THERE IS A CERTAIN
COMPANY THAT PRODUCES SOAP.
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AND ON THEIR SOAP BOXES IS THIS
SYMBOL OF A CIRCLE AND A HALF
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MOON AND A MAN'S FACE. >>
I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING
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ABOUT. >> AND SHE
IS LIKE THAT IS THE
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MARK OF THE BEAST, AND I'M
THINKING, WE ARE ABOUT TO DIE,
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AND MY PARENTS AREN'T HOME.-AND
SHE WAS LIKE DO YOU HAVE A SOAP
BOX IN YOUR HOUSE?-AND I'M LIKE,
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YES, SUSAN. AND SHE IS LIKE,
WHERE IS IT? AND MY BROTHER AND
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I WERE LIKE IT'S IN THE
BASEMENT. AND SHE WAS LIKE LET'S
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GO. AND OFF WE GO DOWN
THE STEPS, AND THE STEPS ARE
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CREAKING, AND IN MY MIND I
HEAR THE HORROR MUSIC IN THE
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BACKGROUND. WE GET TO THE
BASEMENT AND WE POINT TO THE
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SOAP BOX, AND WE START BACKING
UP. SHE PICKS IT UP, TURNS IT,
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LOOKS AT US, AND THEN
SHE IS LIKE, THERE IT IS.
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MY BROTHER AND I SEE THE CIRCLE
WITH THE HALF MOON AND THE MAN'S
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FACE IN IT, WE RUN OUT THE
HOUSE SCREAMING IN OUR PAJAMAS.
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WE ARE STANDING IN THE MIDDLE OF
THE STREET -- NO LAUGHING ON THE
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SET, PLEASE -- WE ARE STANDING
IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET
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SCREAMING -- >> IN NEW YORK.
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>> THIS WAS IN LONG ISLAND.
WE ARE SCREAMING AND CRYING, AND
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MY COUSIN IS LAUGHING TO
DEATH. WE'RE LOOKING FOR CROWS.
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WE'RE LOOKING FOR HOUSES TO
-FALL. WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE
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EARTH TO OPEN UP.
AND AFTER FIVE MINUTES OF
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NOTHING HAPPENING, WE CALM DOWN,
AND THAT WAS MY INTRODUCTION TO
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THE BOOK OF
REVELATIONS AND THE BIBLE.
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>> IT'S FUNNY,
BUT IT'S NOT FUNNY.
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IT'S FUNNY IN THE
WAY YOU ARE TELLING IT.
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BUT IT'S NOT FUNNY BECAUSE IT
IS SUCH A DISTORTION OF WHAT THE
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TRUE MARK OF THE BASE IS.
AND THAT'S HOW MEDIA CAN JUST
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CHANGE HOW WE PERCEIVE THINGS.
>> IT PLANTED A SEED IN MY MIND.
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AFTERWARDS I WAS LIKE, WE'RE
STILL LIVE, IT HAPPENED, MAYBE
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YOU CAN KNOW WHAT THE
MARK OF THE BEAST IS AND LIVE.
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SO I REMEMBER A
SEED BEING PLANTED.
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AND IT WAS JUST LIKE A SEED WAS
PLANTED AND THEN I WENT ON AS
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USUAL, JUST LIVING
MY LIFE OR WHATEVER.
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>> UH-HUH. >> AND
SO AS A TEENAGER, MY
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BROTHER AND I GOT REALLY
INVOLVED IN THE HOP -- HIP HOP
00:15:11.37\00:15:17.88
INDUSTRY, BREAK DANCING AND THE
WHOLE CULTURE, AND BY THE TIME
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WE GOT TO HIGH SCHOOL, WE HAD
FORMED A FOUR-MAN HIP HOP GROUP.
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WE GRADUATED WENT TO COLLEGE,
AND IN MY SECOND YEAR OF
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COLLEGE, ENTERED A TALENT
SHOW AT HOWARD UNIVERSITY IN
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WASHINGTON, D.C. WE
CAME IN FIRST PLACE AND THAT
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LEAD TO A RECORDING CONTRACT
WITH EMI RECORDS IN 1993.
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THE NAME OF OUR GROUP
WAS THE BOOGIE MONSTERS.
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WE STARTED RECORDING. WE
RECORDED AN ALBUM, AND WHILE
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WE WERE RECORDING THAT FIRST
ALBUM, I WAS INTRODUCED TO THE
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GOSPEL, AND THAT'S WHERE MY
WHOLE LIFE JUST -- YOU KNOW,
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TOOK A TURN, AND I ENDED UP
LEAVING THE MUSIC INDUSTRY AS
00:16:02.79\00:16:06.76
WELL AS MY BROTHER WHO
WAS IN THE GROUP WITH US.
00:16:06.76\00:16:11.60
BOTH OF US LEFT THE INDUSTRY FOR
THE SAME REASON AND WENT INTO
00:16:11.60\00:16:16.14
MINISTRY. IT WAS
NOT MY INTENT TO GO INTO
00:16:16.14\00:16:19.81
MINISTRY. I JUT
LEFT THE GROUP, BECAUSE
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THE THINGS THAT I LEARNED SO
IMPACTED ME THAT I WAS WILLING
00:16:21.64\00:16:26.11
TO WALK AWAY FROM, YOU KNOW,
$800,000 CONTRACT, AND BASICALLY
00:16:26.11\00:16:30.75
WENT TO WORK AT TARGET, YOU
KNOW, MAKING LIKE MINIMUM WAGE.
00:16:30.75\00:16:36.09
>> YEAH. >> AND
HADN'T REALLY THOGHT
00:16:36.09\00:16:38.16
ABOUT BECOMING A PASTOR, JUST
KNEW THAT I COULD NOT CONTINUE
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DOING WHAT I WAS DOING, AND THEN
FROM THERE, THE LORD JUST BEGAN
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TO SHOW ME DIFFERENT THINGS AND
ONE THING LEAD TO ANOTHER, AND
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NOW HERE I AM. >> WOW.
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>> WOW. >> SO
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO
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YOUNG PEOPLE WHO FEEL AS THOUGH
THEY CAN LISTEN TO HIP HOP AND
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BE CHRISTIAN IN I MEAN
WHAT --WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT?
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>> YEAH. YOU
KNOW, I KNOW -- LIKE GOD
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USES DIFFERENT PEOPLE
IN DIFFERENT PLACES, RIGHT?
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SO WHEN I WAS GETTING MY
UNDERSTANDING OF THIS GOSPEL, OF
00:17:12.19\00:17:18.87
THIS TRUTH, IT'S -- YOU KNOW, WE
WERE -- WE WERE SO EXCITED ABOUT
00:17:18.87\00:17:24.41
WHAT WE WERE LEARNING, THAT
WE -- WE SAID WE'RE GOING TO
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TAKE THE THREE ANGELS' MESSAGES
AND PUT IT IN OUR HIP HOP MUSIC,
00:17:28.74\00:17:32.95
AND GO INTO CLUBS, AND WE'LL
BE PERFORMING AND PULL OUT "THE
00:17:32.95\00:17:41.36
GREAT CONTROVERSY"
BOOKS OUT OF OUR BACKPACKS.
00:17:41.36\00:17:45.39
WE WOULD BE LIKE WHO
WANTS TO KNOW WHAT SIN IS?
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PUT YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR.
THEY WOULD PUT THEIR HANDS UP
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AND WE WOULD THROW OUT
"THE GREAT CONTROVERSY" BOOKS.
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GOD USED AT US OUR -- THAT
LEVEL OF KNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAD.
00:17:56.77\00:18:01.54
AND HE USES DIFFERENT
PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT PLACES.
00:18:01.54\00:18:04.38
AND NOW WHEN YOU LISTEN TO THE
LYRICS OF A LOT OF THESE SONGS,
00:18:04.38\00:18:08.95
IT'S ROCK MUSIC -- IT'S ALL
KINDS OF DIFFERENT THINGS, AND I
00:18:08.95\00:18:12.85
THINK THE MORE YOU TRY TO GET
THE MIND OF CHRIST, THAT'S THE
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KEY THING. STRIVING
FOR THE MIND OF CHRIST
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WILL SHOW YOU HOW
CHRIST WANTS YOU TO WALK.
00:18:22.66\00:18:25.80
AND SO, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID,
THERE ARE DIFFERENT PEOPLE IN
00:18:25.80\00:18:29.04
DIFFERENT PLACES, BUT
LEARNING -- THAT'S WHAT I HAVE
00:18:29.04\00:18:31.77
LEARNED OVER MY YEARS OF BEING
A CHRISTIAN, SOMETIMES YOU CAN
00:18:31.77\00:18:34.64
POINT TO THINGS AND BE LIKE,
YOU SHOULDN'T DO THIS, OR YOU
00:18:34.64\00:18:39.08
SHOULDN'T DO THAT. BUT
THAT'S WHY MY PASSION HAS
00:18:39.08\00:18:41.98
REALLY BECOME STUDYING THE
BIBLE, BECAUSE I THINK ONCE
00:18:41.98\00:18:45.42
PEOPLE LEARN HOW TO FOCUS ON
CHRIST, ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS,
00:18:45.42\00:18:49.32
YOU KNOW, THAT WE TYPICALLY
LIKE -- YOU KNOW, ALL OF THOSE
00:18:49.32\00:18:53.29
THINGS BEGIN TO
BECOME SELF-EVIDENT.
00:18:53.29\00:18:55.96
AND SO THAT'S WHAT MY PASSION
HAS BECOME, REALLY TEACHING
00:18:55.96\00:18:59.13
PEOPLE HOW TO GET
INTO THE WORD OF GOD.
00:18:59.13\00:19:01.34
>> AND YOU HAVE
NAMED YOUR SYSTEM.
00:19:01.34\00:19:04.27
>> YES. IT'S
CALLED PHOTO-THEOLOGY.
00:19:04.27\00:19:06.74
AND THE MEANING BEHIND THAT NAME
IS BASIALLY THE STUDY OF GOD
00:19:06.74\00:19:10.81
THROUGH THE USE OF PICTURES.
AND WE'LL GET INTO THAT
00:19:10.81\00:19:14.78
DEFINITION A LITTLE BIT MORE,
BUT IT'S INTERESTING, BECAUSE,
00:19:14.78\00:19:19.75
YOU KNOW, WHEN I BECAME A
SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST, I DIDN'T
00:19:19.75\00:19:25.03
COME IN THROUGH AN
EVANGELISTIC SERIES.
00:19:25.03\00:19:27.66
I DIDN'T COME IN
THROUGH GOING TO SCHOOL.
00:19:27.66\00:19:30.63
IT WAS -- I WAS -- YOU KNOW,
A FRIEND OF A FRIEND OF MINE
00:19:30.63\00:19:35.47
BASICALLY ASKED US
A QUESTION ONE NIGHT.
00:19:35.47\00:19:38.24
VERY INTERESTING, HE ASKED
US WHAT DAY WE THINK THE SABBATH
00:19:38.24\00:19:42.88
IS. WE WERE ALL
-- LIKE 20 TO 30 OF
00:19:42.88\00:19:45.55
US WERE JUST HANGING OUT
THIS NIGHT TALKING AND ALL DREAD
00:19:45.55\00:19:49.38
LOCKED DOWN, AND SMOKING OUR
MARIJUANA, AND OUT OF THE BLUE
00:19:49.38\00:19:53.36
THIS GUY THAT WE NEVER MET
BEFORE ASKED US THIS QUESTION.
00:19:53.36\00:19:56.42
HE WAS A FRIEND OF A FRIEND OF
OURS, BUT WE DID NOT KNOW HIM.
00:19:56.42\00:20:00.26
AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT
SOMETHING -- I CAN'T REMEMBER.
00:20:00.26\00:20:04.27
AND HE -- IT WAS KIND OF ALONG
THE LINES OF SPIRITUAL THINGS,
00:20:04.27\00:20:09.30
AND AT THAT TIME WE WERE MIXING
SPIRITUAL THINGS LIKE -- YOU
00:20:09.30\00:20:12.84
KNOW, BEING ECLECTIC RAPPERS.
THE NEW ORDER THEY ARE OUT TO
00:20:12.84\00:20:19.21
GET YOU, MAN.
MARK OF THE BEAST, MAN.
00:20:19.21\00:20:22.72
WATCH OUT FOR THOSE
SOAP BOXES, YOU KNOW?
00:20:22.72\00:20:25.09
>> YEAH. YEAH.
00:20:25.09\00:20:26.15
>> YEAH. >> AND HE
ASKED US WHAT DAY DO
00:20:26.15\00:20:30.33
WE THINK THE SABBATH IS?
AND WE'RE LIKE THAT'S A SILLY
00:20:30.33\00:20:35.80
QUESTION. LIKE
EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT DAY IT
00:20:35.80\00:20:38.67
IS. IT'S SUNDAY.
00:20:38.67\00:20:39.70
AND FROM THAT ONE QUESTION, THIS
GUY BEGINS TO BREAK DOWN TO US,
00:20:39.70\00:20:44.27
DANIEL CHAPTER 2, DANIEL CHAPTER
7, AND THIS WHOLE CHANGE THAT
00:20:44.27\00:20:48.71
THE BIBLE SAID WAS
GOING TO HAPPEN, THAT REALLY
00:20:48.71\00:20:51.81
CHANGED -- IT WAS THAT NIGHT
THAT EVERYTHING CHANGED FOR US.
00:20:51.81\00:21:01.32
>> HUM. >> SO I
DIDN'T LEARN THROUGH AN
00:21:01.32\00:21:05.56
EVANGELISTIC SERIES. I
BASICALLY -- I DIDN'T EVEN
00:21:05.56\00:21:08.20
KNOW THE GUY WAS ADVENTIST.
YOU KNOW, FOR A WHILE, WE WERE
00:21:08.20\00:21:13.03
JUST LIKE, THERE IS NO ONE ON
THE PLANET THAT KNOWS THE BIBLE
00:21:13.03\00:21:16.87
AS GOD AS THIS GUY. RIGHT?
00:21:16.87\00:21:19.57
>> YEAH. >> AND A
COUPLE OF WEEKS LATER,
00:21:19.57\00:21:22.11
WE ARE LIKE WHAT ARE YOU?
HE IS LIKE I'M A SEVENTH-DAY
00:21:22.11\00:21:26.55
ADVENTIST. WE'RE
LIKE WHAT IS THAT?
00:21:26.55\00:21:28.42
SO WE ENDED GOING TO CHURCH
WITH HIM FOR THE FIRST TIME.
00:21:28.42\00:21:32.29
AND WE WENT INTO THAT
CHURCH -- AND IMAGINE LIKE 20 OF
00:21:32.29\00:21:37.96
US WALKING UP TO THIS LITTLE
CHURCH IN LAURELTON QUEENS.
00:21:37.96\00:21:44.30
IT WAS A LEBANON
SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH.
00:21:44.30\00:21:47.37
AND THE PEOPLE WERE JUST
LIKE -- WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE
00:21:47.37\00:21:50.77
WALKING UP INTO
OUR CHURCH, RIGHT?
00:21:50.77\00:21:54.14
WE'RE ALL IN
JEANS AND GUM CHEWING.
00:21:54.14\00:21:59.71
WHAT'S UP? AND AS
THE PASTER IS SPEAKING,
00:21:59.71\00:22:02.85
WE ARE LIKE LOSING
OUR MINDS. [ LAUGHTER ]
00:22:02.85\00:22:05.89
>> WE'RE LIKE WHAT? HE
DID JUST THAT JESUS IS THE
00:22:05.89\00:22:12.43
LORD! WHAT?
00:22:12.43\00:22:13.56
[ LAUGHTER ] >> AND
EVERYONE ELSE WAS SITTING
00:22:13.56\00:22:16.30
AROUND LIKE . . . [ LAUGHTER ]
00:22:16.30\00:22:18.67
>> YEAH. >> AND WE
WERE LIKE, HOLD ON.
00:22:18.67\00:22:23.71
HOLD ON. THEY MUST
NOT HAVE JUST HEARD
00:22:23.71\00:22:26.54
THAT THE PASTOR JUST SAID
THAT YOU HAVE TO PAY TITHE.
00:22:26.54\00:22:31.61
THEY MUST NOT HAVE HEARD THAT,
BECAUSE I HAVE NEVER HEARD THAT
00:22:31.61\00:22:35.35
TRUTH BEFORE. [ LAUGHTER ]
00:22:35.35\00:22:37.29
>> AND WE WOULD LOOK AROUND
LIKE, WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH
00:22:37.29\00:22:40.16
THESE PEOPLE. AND WE
JUST DIDN'T CARE, WE WERE
00:22:40.16\00:22:44.46
LIKE -- WE JUST LOST
IT. LITERALLY EVERYTHING THE
00:22:44.46\00:22:47.66
PREACHER SAID, AND SO THAT'S
WHERE -- LIKE, SOMETIMES PEOPLE
00:22:47.66\00:22:51.30
SEE MY PREACH AND HE
GETS EXCITED WHEN HE PREACHES.
00:22:51.30\00:22:56.57
>> YEAH. YEAH.
00:22:56.57\00:22:57.64
>> IT'S NOT MANUFACTURED, LIKE,
THAT'S HOW WE CAME INTO THE
00:22:57.64\00:23:02.51
CHURCH. AND WERE
SHOCKED TO LOOK AROUND
00:23:02.51\00:23:05.05
AND SEE PEOPLE LIKE . . . AND IT
HAS BEEN 24, 25 YEARS NOW -- YOU
00:23:05.05\00:23:11.79
KNOW, HOWEVER LONG IT HAS BEEN
SINCE I HAVE BEEN IN THE CHURCH,
00:23:11.79\00:23:14.76
AND IT IS STILL THE SAME
ISSUE, LIKE, I DON'T GET IT.
00:23:14.76\00:23:18.49
DO YOU
UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING?
00:23:18.49\00:23:20.63
>> I DO. >> HOW IS
IT THAT WE'RE NOT MORE
00:23:20.63\00:23:23.40
EXCITED ABOUT THE THINGS
THAT GOD HAS SHOWN US IN THE
00:23:23.40\00:23:27.40
SCRIPTURES. >> YES.
00:23:27.40\00:23:29.77
>> AND SO I -- THIS IS HOW
PHOTO-THEOLOGY FOR ME DEVELOPED.
00:23:29.77\00:23:34.54
BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, I DIDN'T GO
TO SCHOOL TO STUDY HOW TO STUDY
00:23:34.54\00:23:40.52
THE BIBLE. SO I WAS
LEARNING IN A WAY THAT
00:23:40.52\00:23:43.42
GOD WAS SPEAKING
TO ME. >> UH-HUH.
00:23:43.42\00:23:45.92
>> AND I DID
NOT EVEN REALIZE IT.
00:23:45.92\00:23:48.22
BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW THERE
IS A SYSTEM TO BIBLE STUDY.
00:23:48.22\00:23:51.96
I NEVER HAD ANY OF THAT.
SO AS A HIP HOP ARTIST, YOU
00:23:51.96\00:23:56.13
KNOW, THE TING ABOUT MUSICIANS,
AND YOU PROBABLY -- YOU KNOW
00:23:56.13\00:24:00.50
THIS, IS WE'RE
VERY ARTISTIC, RIGHT?
00:24:00.50\00:24:04.14
MUSIC IS A VERY CREATIVE THING.
IT TAKES A CREATIVE MIND TO BE A
00:24:04.14\00:24:10.21
MUSICIAN. SO
WHENEVER YOU WRITE RHYMES,
00:24:10.21\00:24:16.02
YOU DON'T WANT TO SAY ANYTHING
THAT SOMEONE ELSE HAS SAID.
00:24:16.02\00:24:23.19
SO YOU WANTED TO WRITE IN A TWHA
WAS UNIQUELY YOUR OWN STYLE.
00:24:23.19\00:24:27.93
SO WE WERE ALWAYS THINKING HOW
CAN I SEE THIS IN A DIFFERENT
00:24:27.93\00:24:32.03
WAY. SO WHEN IT
CAME TO STUDYING THE
00:24:32.03\00:24:34.64
BIBLE, I DIDN'T NECESSARILY
REALIZE THAT THAT WAS WHAT I WAS
00:24:34.64\00:24:38.11
DOING, BUT THAT'S
WHAT I WAS DOING, RIGHT?
00:24:38.11\00:24:40.18
AND IT WASN'T AN INTENTIONAL
THING, IT'S JUST OKAY, I'M
00:24:40.18\00:24:45.11
LOOKING AT THE WORDS IN THE
SCRIPTURE, AND I'M LIKE, THAT
00:24:45.11\00:24:48.92
WORD IS PRETTY INTERESTING.
AND I WOULD SEE THAT WORD LIKE
00:24:48.92\00:24:53.62
200 DIFFERENT WAYS, AND I WOULD
JUST GET LIKE, WOW, THAT IS
00:24:53.62\00:25:01.80
POWERFUL. SO
PHOTO-THEOLOGY IS BASICALLY
00:25:01.80\00:25:04.47
WHAT ENDED UP BECOMING THE
WAY THAT BIBLE TAUGHT ME HOW TO
00:25:04.47\00:25:08.20
STUDY THE BIBLE. >>
WHAT WAS IT LIKE WHEN THAT
00:25:08.20\00:25:10.91
FLIP HAPPENED WHEN YOU FOUND OUT
THAT THE SABBATH WAS SATURDAY?
00:25:10.91\00:25:15.51
>> IT WAS -- IT
WAS MIND BLOWING.
00:25:15.51\00:25:18.65
>> UH-HUH. >> YOU
KNOW, IT WAS -- I FELT
00:25:18.65\00:25:26.79
LIKE I WAS IN THE
TWILIGHT ZONE, RIGHT?
00:25:26.79\00:25:30.96
IN A SENSE IT WAS JUST LIKE,
HOLD ON, HOW CAN THIS BE TRUE.
00:25:30.96\00:25:35.46
AND REMEMBER AT THIS TIME,
I DIDN'T KNOW THERE IS A WHOLE
00:25:35.46\00:25:42.07
MOVEMENT CALLED ADVENTISM.
SO I'M THINKING HOW CAN EVERYONE
00:25:42.07\00:25:47.24
HAVE THIS WRONG. AND
FOR A LITTLE WHILE, I WAS
00:25:47.24\00:25:51.55
LIKE ME AND MY FRIENDS AND THIS
GUY ARE THE ONLY ONES ON THE
00:25:51.55\00:26:00.52
PLANET -- [ LAUGHTER ]
00:26:00.52\00:26:02.02
>> AND NOW IT IS UP TO
US. TO LET THE WORLD KNOW.
00:26:02.02\00:26:08.73
YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST FOR A
LITTLE WHILE, AND THEN I WAS
00:26:08.73\00:26:11.97
LIKE, OKAY,
THERE'S A WHOLE MOVEMENT.
00:26:11.97\00:26:14.90
OKAY. [ LAUGHTER ]
00:26:14.90\00:26:15.60
>> ISN'T IT AMAZING HOW MANY
TIMES YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU
00:26:15.60\00:26:20.31
HAVE THAT VOID. YOU
KNOW THAT SOMETHING IS
00:26:20.31\00:26:23.65
MISSING, OR MAYBE YOU ARE
JUST GOING THROUGH LIFE, AND YOU
00:26:23.65\00:26:26.92
DON'T REALLY REALIZE WHAT IS
MISSING UNTIL YOU GET IT, AND
00:26:26.92\00:26:30.15
THEN WHEN YOU GET IT, WHAT
AN AMAZING FEELING THAT IS.
00:26:30.15\00:26:33.92
LIKE HERE YOU ARE, JUST
ABSORBING ALL OF THE INFORMATION
00:26:33.92\00:26:37.09
LIKE A SPONGE, AND IT'S SO
EXCITING TO YOU, BECAUSE THIS IS
00:26:37.09\00:26:42.23
SOMETHING REALLY -- NEW FOR YOU.
YOU ARE IN CHURCH AND YOU ARE
00:26:42.23\00:26:47.74
HEARING ALL OF THE TRUTHS.
AND MANY TIME WE AS MEMBERS TAKE
00:26:47.74\00:26:51.97
THINGS FOR GRANTED. YOU
KNOW, YOU HEAR THINGS, AND
00:26:51.97\00:26:55.11
HEAR SERMONS, AND YOU
CAN TAKE IT FOR GRANTED.
00:26:55.11\00:27:00.28
YOU CAN TAKE THE TRUTHS FOR
GRANTED IF YOUR RELATIONSHIP
00:27:00.28\00:27:04.29
WITH THE LORD IS
NOT REMAINING FRESH.
00:27:04.29\00:27:06.86
>> YEAH. I'LL TELL
YOU, I HEARD -- BEFORE
00:27:06.86\00:27:09.69
I BECAME AN ADVENTIST, WHEN I
WAS GROWING UP AS A YOUNG PERSON
00:27:09.69\00:27:13.40
AND GETTING INTO COLLEGE, I
WOULD HEAR DIFFERENT RELIGIOUS
00:27:13.40\00:27:19.80
GROUPS -- WE HAD PEOPLE
COME TO OUR CAMPUS AND SPEAK.
00:27:19.80\00:27:25.54
AND I WAS ALWAYS LIKE
THAT MESSAGE SOUNDS STUPID.
00:27:25.54\00:27:29.51
I WAS IN A SENSE
SKEPTICAL OF RELIGION.
00:27:29.51\00:27:34.12
YOU KNOW, YOU SAY BE GOOD.
YOU SAY BE GOOD, SO WHY CHOOSE
00:27:34.12\00:27:38.52
ONE OVER THE OTHER, AND ALL OF
THIS IS JUST LIKE, YOU CAN NEVER
00:27:38.52\00:27:43.73
KNOW WHAT TRUTH IS. SO I
WAS SPECTACLE AGAINST ALL
00:27:43.73\00:27:49.30
RELIGIONS, BUT WHEN I HEARD
THIS, IT SCARED ME, BECAUSE IT
00:27:49.30\00:27:52.77
MADE SO MUCH SENSE. >> HUM.
00:27:52.77\00:27:57.77
>> AND I WAS LIKE
HOW DID THIS ESCAPE ME?
00:27:57.77\00:28:02.98
IT JUST HAD A RING OF TRUTH IT
TO THAT A SKEPTICAL MIND HEARING
00:28:02.98\00:28:08.92
IT, WAS LIKE, WOE,
THIS IS TRUE. THIS IS TRUE.
00:28:08.92\00:28:12.05
>> UH-HUH. >> AND
I'LL TELL YOU, YOU KNOW,
00:28:12.05\00:28:15.42
WHEN -- WHEN I STARTED
STUDYING, I WAS -- THE AMOUNT OF
00:28:15.42\00:28:20.20
INFORMATION I LEARNED IN ABOUT
THREE MONTH'S TIME, I WAS -- I
00:28:20.20\00:28:27.30
WAS TOTALLY BLOWN AWAY. >> HUM.
00:28:27.30\00:28:31.51
>> HUM. >> AND I
WAS LIKE I CANNOT
00:28:31.51\00:28:35.58
BELIEVE HOW MUCH I HAVE LEARNED
IN THREE MONTHS, SO WHEN I WOULD
00:28:35.58\00:28:38.75
GO TO CHURCH, I WOULD LOOK AT
OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAD BEEN IN THE
00:28:38.75\00:28:43.12
CHURCH FOR TEN YEARS, 20 YEARS,
AND I ALMOST WOULD WANT TO FALL
00:28:43.12\00:28:47.32
DOWN AND WORSHIP,
LIKE, WHAT MUST YOU KNOW?
00:28:47.32\00:28:50.73
BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN IN THE
CHURCH FOR A WHOLE TEN YEARS!
00:28:50.73\00:28:54.73
AND I WOULD JUST PASS OUT,
LIKE -- I WILL NEVER CATCH UP TO
00:28:54.73\00:29:00.97
THEM. I WILL NEVER.
00:29:00.97\00:29:01.70
BECAUSE WHAT I HAVE
LEARNED IN THREE MONTHS.
00:29:01.70\00:29:03.77
AND I'M JUST THINKING
EVERYBODY -- EVERYBODY IN THE
00:29:03.77\00:29:08.88
CHURCH IS JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW,
DON'T EVEN TRY TO TOUCH ON THAT.
00:29:08.88\00:29:14.35
THAT'S MY BOY HENRY OVER THERE.
HE HAS BEEN AN ADVENTIST FOR 20
00:29:14.35\00:29:21.49
YEARS. DON'T TOUCH HIM.
00:29:21.49\00:29:22.52
YOU CANNOT TOUCH HIM. >>
YOU WERE PASSIONATE ABOUT THE
00:29:22.52\00:29:27.46
GOSPEL FROM THE MOMENT
YOU FOUND OUT ABOUT IT.
00:29:27.46\00:29:29.53
>> FROM THE MOMENT.
FROM THE MOMENT, YEAH.
00:29:29.53\00:29:32.33
>> SO HOW DID YOU
BEGIN TO STUDY IT?
00:29:32.33\00:29:36.47
HOW DID YOU -- IN THREE MONTH'S
TIME YOU ARE I SAYING YOU KNEW
00:29:36.47\00:29:44.91
MORE THAN YOU
COULD HAVE IMAGINED.
00:29:44.91\00:29:46.58
HOW DID YOU -- DID
YOU HAVE A SYSTEM THEN?
00:29:46.58\00:29:49.95
WELL, LET ME GO
BACK FOR A SECOND.
00:29:49.95\00:29:53.36
WHEN YOU WERE IN
SCHOOL, WERE YOU A GOOD STUDENT?
00:29:53.36\00:29:56.52
>> I WAS A GOOD STUDENT.
THE THING IS MY -- I THINK MY
00:29:56.52\00:30:02.86
PASSION -- GROWING UP I
WANTED TO BE INTO PSYCHOLOGY.
00:30:02.86\00:30:06.63
I LIKED HOW THE
HUMAN MIND WORKED.
00:30:06.63\00:30:09.50
I WAS REALLY LIKE A THINKER.
I LIKED TO THINK ABOUT THE WAY
00:30:09.50\00:30:13.51
PEOPLE THINK AND HOW TO DISSECT
THE MIND AND THAT KIND OF THING,
00:30:13.51\00:30:17.25
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE'S
THOUGHTS OR WHATEVER.
00:30:17.25\00:30:20.05
AND SO THAT'S WHERE MY PASSION
WAS REALLY GROWING UP, LIKE,
00:30:20.05\00:30:24.12
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S WHAT I
WOULD LIKE TO DO, SO I THINK
00:30:24.12\00:30:27.76
THERE WAS ALWAYS A LEANING
TOWARDS JUST THAT CREATIVITY OF
00:30:27.76\00:30:33.56
THE MIND >> UH-HUH.
00:30:33.56\00:30:35.10
>> AND AS I SAID EARLIER,
WHEN -- WHEN I WAS WRITING
00:30:35.10\00:30:39.90
LYRICS, YOU KNOW, JUST
-- IF -- YOU HAVE TO BE
00:30:39.90\00:30:44.51
POETICAL, RIGHT? SO THE
WAY THAT I WOULD WRITE MY
00:30:44.51\00:30:47.08
MUSIC, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO FIND
DIFFERENT WAYS, CREATIVE WAYS TO
00:30:47.08\00:30:51.78
GET ACROSS A CERTAIN POINT.
WHEN IT CAME TO THE BIBLE, LIKE
00:30:51.78\00:30:55.28
I SAID, I DIDN'T HAVE A SYSTEM.
I DIDN'T KNOW THIS IS WHAT I WAS
00:30:55.28\00:31:00.49
DOING, BECAUSE MY
MIND JUST WORKED THAT WAY.
00:31:00.49\00:31:02.39
SO I WOULD READ A TEXT AND
SOMETHING WOULD JUMP OUT TO ME
00:31:02.39\00:31:05.36
THAT I WOULD BE
LIKE, WOE. LOOK AT THIS.
00:31:05.36\00:31:09.43
LIKE THERE'S -- BUT I
DIDN'T -- I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS
00:31:09.43\00:31:13.00
A NORMAL -- LIKE
EVERYONE SAW THIS.
00:31:13.00\00:31:15.27
>> RIGHT. >> UH-HUH.
00:31:15.27\00:31:16.44
>> SO WHEN I WOULD START SHARING
SOME OF THIS STUFF WITH OTHER
00:31:16.44\00:31:19.91
PEOPLE WHO ARE ADVENTISTS, THEY
WERE LIKE, OH, I NEVER SAW IT
00:31:19.91\00:31:24.31
THAT WAY BEFORE. AND I
WOULD LOOK AT THEM LIKE,
00:31:24.31\00:31:27.55
WHAT DO YOU MEAN? LIKE
-- YES, IT'S RIGHT THERE,
00:31:27.55\00:31:31.99
DON'T YOU SEE IT? NO, NO, NO.
00:31:31.99\00:31:34.76
I NEVER SAW THAT. I
STARTED STUDYING USING AMAZING
00:31:34.76\00:31:39.39
FACTS STUDY GUIDES -- ACTUALLY
IT WAS JOE CRUZ THOSE LITTLE
00:31:39.39\00:31:47.00
PAMPHLETS THAT HE WROTE.
AND I WOULD GET THOSE LITTLE
00:31:47.00\00:31:50.31
BOOKS AND READ AND
HIGHLIGHT MY BIBLE.
00:31:50.31\00:31:53.48
LIKE MY BIBLE WAS LIKE A
COLORING BOOK, AND THAT'S HOW I
00:31:53.48\00:31:57.58
LEARNED THE BASICS AS FAR
AS DOCTRINE, BUT LIKE I SAID, I
00:31:57.58\00:32:01.92
DIDN'T REALIZE THAT-- AT THAT
TIME -- IT'S ONLY AS I LOOKED
00:32:01.92\00:32:05.39
BACK THAT I SAW THAT I
WAS -- THAT I THINK THE LORD
00:32:05.39\00:32:10.36
CALLED ME IN A CERTAIN SENSE
BECAUSE I WAS COMING FROM THE
00:32:10.36\00:32:14.13
OUTSIDE -- >> UH-HUH.
00:32:14.13\00:32:16.63
>> -- BECAUSE I HAD MIND THAT
HAD NOT BEEN BROUGHT UP IN THE
00:32:16.63\00:32:19.87
CHURCH, IF YOU WILL, SO I WAS
GOING TO SEE THINGS DIFFERENTLY,
00:32:19.87\00:32:23.97
JUST NATURALLY. >> YES.
00:32:23.97\00:32:26.44
YES. >> AND HE
WOULD EVENTUALLY LEAD
00:32:26.44\00:32:30.21
ME TO DEVELOP
THAT INTO A SYSTEM.
00:32:30.21\00:32:31.88
>> UH-HUH. >> SO AS
I LOOK BACK, THAT'S HOW
00:32:31.88\00:32:35.15
I SEE THIS UNFOLDING.
IT'S LIKE I SAID I HAVE A NEW
00:32:35.15\00:32:40.72
SCHOOL OF THOUGHT.
THAT WAS JUST THE WAY I
00:32:40.72\00:32:44.03
APPROACHED THE SCRIPTURE, AND
I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST NORMAL.
00:32:44.03\00:32:47.23
>> YES.-BUT YOU HAVE
THE CLEAN SLATE. >> YES.
00:32:47.23\00:32:50.87
>> YOU CAME IN WITHOUT ANY
PRECONCEPTIONS, REALLY, YOU JUST
00:32:50.87\00:32:57.21
CAME IN AND --
LORD, JUST SHOW ME.
00:32:57.21\00:33:00.18
>> YEAH. >> -- AND HE DID.
00:33:00.18\00:33:04.15
SO I KNOW PEOPLE ARE PROBABLY
SAYING WHY ARE THEY TALKING
00:33:04.15\00:33:07.78
ABOUT THIS SYSTEM. SO
TELL US, HOW DO YOU START?
00:33:07.78\00:33:11.89
IF SOMEONE IS WATCHING RIGHT NOW
THAT HAS NEVER STUDIED THE BIBLE
00:33:11.89\00:33:19.03
BEFORE, WHERE DO YOU
START? >> I'LL SHARE SOMETHING
00:33:19.03\00:33:22.83
PRACTICAL RIGHT NOW. >> UH-HUH.
00:33:22.83\00:33:24.27
>> ONE OF THE THINGS THEY
USE RIGHT NOW, WHEN I STUDY THE
00:33:24.27\00:33:28.27
BIBLE -- AND I HAVE BEEN USING
IT FOR YEARS IS BIBLE SOFTWARE.
00:33:28.27\00:33:33.94
SOMETHING CALLED E-SORT.
IT'S A FREE SOFTWARE -- NOW
00:33:33.94\00:33:37.81
THERE ARE OTHER SOFTWARES OUT
THERE THAT YOU CAN PURCHASE, AND
00:33:37.81\00:33:42.98
THEY ARE QUITE EXPENSIVE.
SOME RUN LIKE THOUSANDS OF
00:33:42.98\00:33:47.12
DOLLARS, AND SO
IT'S PRETTY EXPENSIVE.
00:33:47.12\00:33:51.89
E-SORT IS PRETTY MUCH FREE.
I THINK AT SOME PLACES IT MIGHT
00:33:51.89\00:33:57.00
COST $10 OR $5 OR SOMETHING.
BUT IT'S A VERY POWERFUL TOOL
00:33:57.00\00:34:01.90
BECAUSE IT BASICALLY BRINGS
THE BIBLE, YOU KNOW, TO YOUR
00:34:01.90\00:34:05.61
FINGERTIPS, RIGHT?
YOU CAN HAV DIFFERENT
00:34:05.61\00:34:09.78
TRANSLATIONS, DIFFERENT
COMMENTARIES, DICTIONARIES.
00:34:09.78\00:34:13.21
YOU CAN LOOK UP A WORD IN
GREEK OR HEBREW, SO IT'S VERY
00:34:13.21\00:34:17.82
TECHNICAL, BUT IT'S SOMETHING
THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE REALLY
00:34:17.82\00:34:22.39
DON'T KNOW ABOUT. BACK
IN THE DAY, I WOULD STUDY
00:34:22.39\00:34:29.80
MY BIBLE WITH THE
BIBLE AND A CONCORDANCE.
00:34:29.80\00:34:35.07
AND IT WOULD TAKE HOURS.
AND YOU ARE TRYING TO FIND A
00:34:35.07\00:34:38.77
WORD THAT IS FOUND IN
SEVERAL DIFFERENT PLACES IN THE
00:34:38.77\00:34:43.01
SCRIPTURES. WELL, NOW
YOU CAN DO ALL OF THAT
00:34:43.01\00:34:45.31
RIGHT THERE AT YOUR
FINGERTIPS. >> YEAH.
00:34:45.31\00:34:48.48
YEAH. >> ON THE
TECHNICAL SIDE, I
00:34:48.48\00:34:52.69
WOULD SAY GET A GOOD SOFTWARE.
AGAIN, I USE E-SWORD, AND YOU
00:34:52.69\00:34:59.29
CAN DOWNLOAD IT
ON YOUR COMPUTER.
00:34:59.29\00:35:03.33
OR WHATEVER
SOFTWARE YOU CHOOSE, GET IT.
00:35:03.33\00:35:06.17
SO THAT IS THE TECHNICAL SIDE.
IT TAKES A WHILE TO LEARN HOW TO
00:35:06.17\00:35:10.07
USE IT, BUT ONCE YOU LEARN HOW
TO USE IT, IT REALLY AMPLIFIES
00:35:10.07\00:35:14.71
YOUR BIBLE STUDY
IN A POWERFUL WAY.
00:35:14.71\00:35:17.61
>> YES. >> SO
BEYOND THAT, WHAT YOU
00:35:17.61\00:35:24.22
NEED -- LET ME START THIS WAY.
SO I HAVE A MINISTRY -- ANOTHER
00:35:24.22\00:35:28.56
MINISTRY CALLED ARMY BIBLE CAMP.
AND ARMY BIBLE CAMP, I STARTED
00:35:28.56\00:35:32.89
IT PROBABLY ABOUT
TEN YEARS AGO NOW.
00:35:32.89\00:35:36.00
AND IT WAS BECAUSE PEOPLE KEPT
ASKING ME, PASTOR, HOW DO YOU
00:35:36.00\00:35:39.93
STUDY THE BIBLE?
HOW DID YOU SEE THAT?
00:35:39.93\00:35:42.17
>> UH-HUH. >>
HOW DID YOU GET THAT?
00:35:42.17\00:35:44.54
I HAVE READ THAT STORY
LIKE A HUNDRED TIMES --
00:35:44.54\00:35:47.38
>> WE HAVE HEARD
YOUR SERMONS, IS WE KNOW.
00:35:47.38\00:35:51.91
>> AND WE SAY THAT ON
SALVATION SYMBOLS AND SIGNS.
00:35:51.91\00:36:01.36
I HAVE READ THAT SAME SCRIPTURE
OVER AND OVER, AND HOW DID YOU
00:36:01.36\00:36:06.06
COME TO THAT? >>
YEAH, I NEVER HAD AN ANSWER
00:36:06.06\00:36:09.00
READY FOR PEOPLE. IT
WAS JUST LIKE, WELL, THAT'S
00:36:09.00\00:36:11.97
HOW I STUDY THE BIBLE.
AND WHEN PEOPLE STARTED ASKING
00:36:11.97\00:36:14.97
ME MORE AND MORE, I WAS LIKE,
I NEED TO THINK ABOUT WHAT I'M
00:36:14.97\00:36:19.47
DOING. LIKE, HOW
AM I GOING THROUGH
00:36:19.47\00:36:21.31
THIS PROCESS? AND
THIS IS THE PROCESS THAT
00:36:21.31\00:36:24.78
LEAD ME TO THIS
SYSTEM CALLED PHOTO-THEOLOGY.
00:36:24.78\00:36:28.82
THE STUDY OF THE WORD OF
GOD THROUGH THE USE OF PICTURES.
00:36:28.82\00:36:32.19
ONE OF THE -- AND THERE ARE MANY
DIFFERENT PRINCIPLES IN THIS
00:36:32.19\00:36:39.03
SYSTEM, BUT LET ME -- I'M GOING
TO SHARE A STATEMENT WITH YOU,
00:36:39.03\00:36:41.83
AND I'M GOING TO SEE WHAT
-- WHAT COMES TO YOUR MIND
00:36:41.83\00:36:45.93
WHEN I SHARE THIS STATEMENT.
SO IT'S TAKEN FROM [ INAUDIBLE ]
00:36:45.93\00:36:51.77
APRIL 16TH, 1889, AND IT SAYS
TAKE YOUR BIBLE, AND COMPARE
00:36:51.77\00:36:58.48
PASSAGE WITH PASSAGE AND VESE
WITH VERSE AND YOU WILL FIND THE
00:36:58.48\00:37:03.59
PRECIOUS JEWELS OF TRUTH.
YOU SHOULD PUT THE PRECIOUS GEMS
00:37:03.59\00:37:09.36
OF LIGHT IN A BEAUTIFUL SETTING
AND HANG THEM IN MEMORY'S HALL.
00:37:09.36\00:37:13.70
THAT'S A QUOTE. >> HUM.
00:37:13.70\00:37:16.23
>> WHAT CAME TO YOUR
MIND WHEN I READ THAT?
00:37:16.23\00:37:19.33
>> A PICTURE. >> OKAY.
00:37:19.33\00:37:21.00
WHAT KIND OF A PICTURE? >> UM --
00:37:21.00\00:37:24.37
>> HANG THEM IN
MEMORY'S HALL. >> MEMORY'S HALL.
00:37:24.37\00:37:29.18
YEAH. BUT THE ASSOCIATION.
00:37:29.18\00:37:31.11
>> UH-HUH. >> DID
YOU SEE -- I DON'T KNOW
00:37:31.11\00:37:34.02
ABOUT YOU, BUT I SEE
A HALL -- MEMORY'S HALL.
00:37:34.02\00:37:37.65
THAT BRINGS TO MY
MIND A PICTURE, RIGHT?
00:37:37.65\00:37:40.62
AND NOW I'M SEEING A HALL IN
MY MIND -- I'M A VISUAL PERSON.
00:37:40.62\00:37:47.03
I'M SEEING A HALL -- I'M A
PERSON THAT LIKES PICTURES,
00:37:47.03\00:37:50.73
RIGHT? SO I'M
SEEING A HALL IN MY MIND,
00:37:50.73\00:37:53.50
AND I'M BEING TOLD THAT I SHOULD
TAKE DIFFERENT TRUTHS, DIFFERENT
00:37:53.50\00:37:57.71
STORIES IN THE BIBLE AND
HANG THEM IN MEMORY'S HALL.
00:37:57.71\00:38:04.55
NOW, THIS SYSTEM OF --
OF BIBLE STUDY THAT I HAVE,
00:38:04.55\00:38:11.35
PHOTO-THEOLOGY, SO I'M NOW
TRAINING PEOPLE, THIS IS HOW
00:38:11.35\00:38:13.79
YOU -- YOU DO THIS, RIGHT?
SO -- LIKE I SAID, IT'S AN
00:38:13.79\00:38:19.79
ENTIRE SYSTM, AND ONE OF
THE FIRST THINGS I SHARE IS THIS
00:38:19.79\00:38:23.73
CONCEPT OF MEMORY'S HALL.
WHEN I WAS YOUNGER, THERE WAS A
00:38:23.73\00:38:26.97
CARD GAME I PLAYED
CALLED CONCENTRATION.
00:38:26.97\00:38:29.70
>> OH, YEAH. >> ALL
OF THE CARDS ARE FACING
00:38:29.70\00:38:32.84
DOWN, AND YOU TURN ONE CARD,
AND THEN YOU HAVE TO FIND THE
00:38:32.84\00:38:36.81
MATCHING CARD. YOU
HAVE TO REMEMBER, WHERE DID
00:38:36.81\00:38:39.58
I SEE THAT CARD BEFORE?
AND SO YOU FLIP, YOU FLIP,
00:38:39.58\00:38:44.75
THAT'S A MATCH. RIGHT?
00:38:44.75\00:38:46.62
>> YEAH. >> IN
ESSENCE THAT IS THE ART OF
00:38:46.62\00:38:52.53
PHOTO-THEOLOGY, SO
LET'S PLAY CONCENTRATION.
00:38:52.53\00:38:55.66
OKAY?-I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A
PICTURE. MOSES GOES ON TOP OF A
00:38:55.66\00:39:00.94
MOUNTAIN. HE TELLS JOSHUA,
YOU ARE MIGHTING THE MALI KITEDS
00:39:00.94\00:39:11.15
BELOW. I'M GOING TO GO UP TO
THE MOUNTAIN, AND WHEN I LIFT MY
00:39:11.15\00:39:14.02
HANDS WITH THE ROD -- WHEN I
LIFT MY HANDS -- WHEN I LIFT MY
00:39:14.02\00:39:18.29
HANDS WITH THE ROD IN MY HAND,
YOU ARE GOING TO EXPERIENCE
00:39:18.29\00:39:22.62
VICTORY. WHEN I
LIFT MY HANDS, WHEN I
00:39:22.62\00:39:25.93
LIFT MY HANDS. WHEN
MY HANDS ARE CONNECTED TO
00:39:25.93\00:39:29.76
WOOD, AND I
HAVE LIFTED MY HANDS.
00:39:29.76\00:39:32.40
>> OH, YES. >> YOU
ARE GOING TO EXPERIENCE
00:39:32.40\00:39:35.60
VICTORY. EVERY TIME
HIS HANDS COME DOWN,
00:39:35.60\00:39:37.91
NO VICTORY. EVERY
TIME HIS HANDS GO UP, BOTH
00:39:37.91\00:39:42.21
HANDS ARE CONNECTED TO THE
ROD, TO WOOD, THERE IS VICTORY.
00:39:42.21\00:39:46.72
>> WOE. >> YOU
ARE SAYING WOW, AND I
00:39:46.72\00:39:52.09
HAVEN'T SAID ANYTHING.
I'M JUST GIVING YOU THE STORY.
00:39:52.09\00:39:55.06
>> I HAVE A PICTURE. >>
AND NOW MOSES'S HANDS BEGIN
00:39:55.06\00:40:00.80
TO GET TIRED SO ERIN STANDS ON
ONE SIDE OF HIM, HARRAH HANDS ON
00:40:00.80\00:40:06.80
THE OTHER SIDE OF
HIM. MOSES IS ON A ROCK.
00:40:06.80\00:40:11.31
HIS HANDS ARE
EXTENDED HIS ARMS EXTENDED.
00:40:11.31\00:40:18.35
ON EITHER SIDE OF HIM IS ERIN
AND HERR AND THEY HOLD HIS HANDS
00:40:18.35\00:40:25.35
UP. ALL I HAVE
DONE IS GIVEN YOU A
00:40:25.35\00:40:27.62
PICTURE OF A
STORY YOU ALREADY KNOW.
00:40:27.62\00:40:30.59
BUT SOMETHING JUST HAPPENED.
BECAUSE AS I WAS EXPLAINING THAT
00:40:30.59\00:40:34.56
STORY, YOU WERE SAYING HOLD
ON HOLD ON WAIT A MINUTE, WAIT A
00:40:34.56\00:40:37.87
MINUTE, AND WHAT HAPPENED IS YOU
RAN DOWN MEMORY'S HALL AND YOU
00:40:37.87\00:40:41.87
WERE LIKE, I HAVE SEEN
THAT PICTURE SOMEPLACE ELSE.
00:40:41.87\00:40:45.27
>> COME ON. >> AND
YOU ARE LIKE HOLD ON,
00:40:45.27\00:40:48.71
WAIT A MINUTE. AND
WHAT ARE YOU THINKING?
00:40:48.71\00:40:52.25
WHY ARE YOU SMILING? >>
BECAUSE YOU SEE JESUS ON THE
00:40:52.25\00:40:55.85
CROSS WITH HIS
ARMS OUTSTRETCHED.
00:40:55.85\00:41:01.72
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >> YEP.
00:41:01.72\00:41:02.72
>> AND NOW WE KNOW BECAUSE OF
THOSE HANDS THAT WERE EXTENDED
00:41:02.72\00:41:06.36
ON THE CROSS, WE CAN
HAVE VICTORY IN OUR FIGHT.
00:41:06.36\00:41:10.20
>> OH, THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S GOOD.
00:41:10.20\00:41:14.44
>> WE CAN HAVE
VICTORY IN OUR FIGHT.
00:41:14.44\00:41:16.84
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >>
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE VICTORY IN
00:41:16.84\00:41:20.21
OUR BATTLE AGAINST THE FLESH
AND THE PRINCIPALITIES OF THIS
00:41:20.21\00:41:23.68
WORLD, BECAUSE OF WHAT CHRIST
DID ON THE CROSS, AND NOW I KNOW
00:41:23.68\00:41:27.08
SOMETHING ELSE
TOO FROM THIS STORY.
00:41:27.08\00:41:28.95
IT'S NOT THE NAILS
THAT HELD HIS HANDS UP --
00:41:28.95\00:41:31.72
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >> IT
WAS THE SINNER ON EITHER
00:41:31.72\00:41:35.32
SIDE OF HIM THAT
HELD HIS HANDS UP.
00:41:35.32\00:41:38.69
JUST AS AARON AND HERR STOOD
THERE TO HOLD UP MOSES'S HANDS,
00:41:38.69\00:41:43.10
IT WAS THE SINNER
ON EITHER SIDE OF HIM.
00:41:43.10\00:41:46.23
IN OTHER WORDS JESUS
DIED FOR THE WHOLE WORLD.
00:41:46.23\00:41:52.84
THOSE WHO WOULD ACCEPT HIM
AND THOSE WHO WOULD REJECT HIM.
00:41:52.84\00:41:56.21
SO WHAT HAVE WE JUST
DONE IN WE JUST PLAYED A GAME.
00:41:56.21\00:41:59.68
THE GAME IS
CALLED CONCENTRATION.
00:41:59.68\00:42:02.82
I SEE THIS STORY IN THE
BIBLE, AND I'M TRYING TO -- I'M
00:42:02.82\00:42:06.76
LEARNING HOW TO
THINK IN PICTURES.
00:42:06.76\00:42:08.69
>> UH-HUH? >>
THAT'S ALL WE JUST DID.
00:42:08.69\00:42:10.86
IF YOU HAD A SERMON TO PREACH
NOW, AND NO ONE EVER WATCHED
00:42:10.86\00:42:14.93
THIS, YOU COULD BE
LIKE, I'M GOING TO CREATE --
00:42:14.93\00:42:19.27
[ LAUGHTER ] >>
JASON, HOW DID YOU SEE THAT?
00:42:19.27\00:42:23.30
>> DON'T BE SURPRISED
IF HE GOES TO PREACH THAT.
00:42:23.30\00:42:27.88
>> I WON'T PREACH AT A
CHURCH WHERE YOU PREACH IT.
00:42:27.88\00:42:32.15
>> BUT PHOTO T-PHOTO-THEOLOGY.
IT'S THE SIMPLE ART OF HAVING
00:42:32.15\00:42:37.25
THESE PICTURES IN YOUR MIND AND
THEN LEARNING HOW TO CONNECT THE
00:42:37.25\00:42:42.09
PICTURES TO
REVEAL A STORY. >> HUM.
00:42:42.09\00:42:45.76
>> HUM. >> THAT IS ONE OF THE
00:42:45.76\00:42:50.20
PRINCIPLES, AND THAT'S
ACTUALLY A MAJOR PRINCIPLE.
00:42:50.20\00:42:53.50
BECAUSE THE MORE YOU
LEARN -- AND HERE IS THE
00:42:53.50\00:42:56.27
PROBLEM. A LOT OF
US -- YOU KNOW, IF YOU
00:42:56.27\00:42:58.64
DON'T HAVE PICTURES HANGING IN
MEMORY'S HALL, YOU ARE NOT GOING
00:42:58.64\00:43:03.18
TO BE ABLE TO
MAKE THESE CONNECTIONS.
00:43:03.18\00:43:05.48
>> RIGHT. >> UH-HUH.
00:43:05.48\00:43:06.78
>> AND THAT'S WHY ONE OF THE
FIRST THINGS YOU WANT TO DO IS
00:43:06.78\00:43:11.29
LEARN HOW TO HANG THIS
PICTURES IN YOUR HALL, RIGHT?
00:43:11.29\00:43:14.46
LOCK THEM IN YOUR MIND, BECAUSE
YOU MAY NOT EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT
00:43:14.46\00:43:17.53
THE PICTURE IS ABOUT RIGHT
NOW, BUT PUT IT THERE, BECAUSE
00:43:17.53\00:43:20.96
SOMETHING IS
GOING TO HAPPEN ONE DAY.
00:43:20.96\00:43:22.66
ONE DAY YOU ARE GOING TO MINDING
YOUR OWN BUSINESS, WASHING
00:43:22.66\00:43:26.20
DISHES OR SOMETHING, AND ALL OF
A SUDDEN A PICTURE IS GOING TO
00:43:26.20\00:43:29.64
COME TO YOUR MIND, AND YOU ARE
GOING TO BE LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE,
00:43:29.64\00:43:33.68
WAIT A MINUTE. THAT
PICTURE ADDS TO -- THAT
00:43:33.68\00:43:36.54
PICTURE MATCHES THIS PICTURE.
ONE OF MY FAVORITE PICTURES,
AND-I HAD THIS PICTURE HANGING
00:43:36.54\00:43:42.72
IN MY HALL FOR A LONG
TIME. AND NOW IT'S LIKE THAT'S A
00:43:42.72\00:43:47.66
MESSED UP STORY. IT
IS THE STORY OF DAVID AND
00:43:47.66\00:43:53.13
BATHSHEBA. AND
DAVID HAS BATHSHEBA'S
00:43:53.13\00:43:55.30
HUSBAND KILLED. WHY?
00:43:55.30\00:43:57.80
BECAUSE BATHSHEBA IS
PREGNANT WITH DAVID'S CHILD.
00:43:57.80\00:44:01.50
HE HAS HER HUSBAND KILLED SO
THAT HE COVERS IT UP, AND THEN
00:44:01.50\00:44:06.51
THE PROPHET NATHAN COMES TO HIM
AND GIVES HIM THIS WHOLE PARABLE
00:44:06.51\00:44:11.38
AND TELLS HIM YOU ARE THE MAN OF
THIS PARABLE, BASICALLY EXPOSING
00:44:11.38\00:44:17.25
DAVID. I KNOW
WHAT YOU HAVE DONE.
00:44:17.25\00:44:19.32
DAVID REPENTS, HE IS TOTALLY
SORRY, AND NATHAN SAYS, YOU WILL
00:44:19.32\00:44:25.33
LIVE. AND PRAISE GOD.
00:44:25.33\00:44:27.13
DAVID REPENTS AND GOD TELLS
NATHAN TO TELL DAVID THAT HE IS
00:44:27.13\00:44:37.37
GOING TO LIVE. BUT
THE CHILD OF BATHSHEBA IS
00:44:37.37\00:44:41.01
GOING TO DIE. AND I
HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT MESSED
00:44:41.01\00:44:43.41
UP STORY. SO I HAD
THAT PICTURE HANGING IN
00:44:43.41\00:44:47.25
MEMORY'S HALL FOR A LONG TIME.
AND ONE DAY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT
00:44:47.25\00:44:50.89
OR HOW, BUT I WAS LIKE, WAIT A
MINUTE, THAT CHILD DOESN'T HAVE
00:44:50.89\00:44:54.06
A NAME. WE DON'T
KNOW WHO THE CHILD IS.
00:44:54.06\00:44:57.46
THE ONLY THING WE KNOW IS THAT
IT WAS A MALE, SO THIS WOULD
00:44:57.46\00:45:01.36
HAVE BEEN THE
SON OF DAVID. >> HUM.
00:45:01.36\00:45:08.24
>> SO THE SON OF DAVID WAS
BROUGHT INTO THIS WORLD BECAUSE
00:45:08.24\00:45:14.91
OF SOMEBODY ELSE'S SIN, AND
THOUGH HE HAD DONE NO WRONG,
00:45:14.91\00:45:22.82
DIED WHILE DAVID
GOT TO LIVE. >> WOW.
00:45:22.82\00:45:26.76
>> ALL OF A
SUDDEN, I'M LIKE, WOE.
00:45:26.76\00:45:29.56
YOU MEAN THAT LITTLE BOY, WHO WE
DON'T KNOW -- WE DON'T KNOW HIS
00:45:29.56\00:45:34.10
NAME, WE DON'T -- THAT LITTLE
BOY WAS A TYPE OF THE VERY WORK
00:45:34.10\00:45:38.70
THAT JESUS WAS TO DO, BECAUSE
JESUS, WE KNOW IN THE NEW
00:45:38.70\00:45:43.67
TESTAMENT, WHAT IS HE CALLED?
HE IS CALLED THE SON OF DAVID.
00:45:43.67\00:45:47.61
HE WAS BROUGHT INTO THIS WORLD
BECAUSE OF OUR SIN, AND THOUGH
00:45:47.61\00:45:51.58
HE WAS INNOCENT ANDHAD DONE
NO WRONG, HE DIED THAT WE MIGHT
00:45:51.58\00:45:56.69
LIVE. >> WOW.
00:45:56.69\00:45:57.52
>> HUM. >> AND SO
YOU BEGIN TO SEE THESE
00:45:57.52\00:46:00.36
STORIES IN THE BIBLE THAT
ARE -- YOU KNOW, YOU THINK,
00:46:00.36\00:46:03.12
YEAH, THAT STORY DOESN'T MEAN
ANYTHING, YOU JUST THROW IT TO
00:46:03.12\00:46:07.03
THE SIDE, BUT
GOD WASTES NOTHING.
00:46:07.03\00:46:09.76
SO THESE STORIES IN THE
SCRIPTURES THAT WE TEND TO GLOSS
00:46:09.76\00:46:16.64
OVER, WHEN WE STOP AND BEGIN TO
THINK, OKAY, WHAT IS GOD TRYING
00:46:16.64\00:46:21.54
TO SHOW ME HERE? ONE
OF THE EXAMPLES I LIKE TO
00:46:21.54\00:46:25.48
GIVE IS THIS.
IMAGINE WE'RE IN A PRIMITIVE
00:46:25.48\00:46:30.55
SOCIETY, AND A CAMERA DROPS
RIGHT IN THE MIDST -- SOMEONE
00:46:30.55\00:46:36.09
SLIDES OVER AND DROPS A CAMERA
IN THE MIDST OF OUR SOCIETY.
00:46:36.09\00:46:40.06
AND WE'RE LIKE WHAT IS THAT?
WE HAVE NEVER SEEN IT BEFORE,
00:46:40.06\00:46:43.63
AND AFTER A FEW WEEKS OR MONTHS
SOMEONE GETS BOLD ENOUGH TOUCH
00:46:43.63\00:46:49.24
IT, AND IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING.
AND IT ISN'T GOING TO HURT US.
00:46:49.24\00:46:55.28
AND NOW THIS IS A THING
THAT WE ARE JUST IN AH OF.
00:46:55.28\00:47:03.18
IS THAT PRIMITIVE SOCIETY USING
THE CAMERA IN THE RIGHT WAY?
00:47:03.18\00:47:07.32
>> NO. >> WHAT IS
THE PURPOSE OF THE
00:47:07.32\00:47:11.06
CAMERA? >> TO TAKE PICTURES.
00:47:11.06\00:47:12.59
>> TO TAKE PICTURES.
THE STORIES OF THE BIBLE ARE
00:47:12.59\00:47:19.63
CAMERAS THAT REVEAL
THE PICTURE OF JESUS.
00:47:19.63\00:47:22.94
>> WOW. >> MOST
OF US APPROACH THESE
00:47:22.94\00:47:25.54
STORIES AND JUST
LOOK AT THE CAMERA.
00:47:25.54\00:47:29.68
WHAT A NEAT CAMERA. WOW,
THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL CAMERA.
00:47:29.68\00:47:33.82
HEY, LOOK AT THIS CAMERA.
MAN, THESE CAMERAS ARE GREAT.
00:47:33.82\00:47:37.65
NOT REALIZING THAT THESE CAMERAS
WERE DESIGNED TO SHOW US JESUS.
00:47:37.65\00:47:43.09
>> HUH. >> SO IN
ESSENCE, WE END UP
00:47:43.09\00:47:47.03
MISSING THE -- >> PICTURE.
00:47:47.03\00:47:48.30
>> PICTURE. >> WOW.
00:47:48.30\00:47:50.10
>> THAT'S WHAT
ENDS UP HAPPENING.
00:47:50.10\00:47:52.83
WE OFTEN READ THE BIBLE
AND MISS THE PICTURE OF JESUS.
00:47:52.83\00:47:58.14
LIKE, YOU GUYS REMEMBER -- AND
THIS IS ONE OF MY STRONG BELIEFS
00:47:58.14\00:48:02.01
WHEN IT COMES TO PHOTO-THEOLOGY.
PHOTO-THEOLOGY IS THE ART OF
00:48:02.01\00:48:06.58
LOOKING FOR JESUS.->> HUM.
>> IT'S THE ART OF LOOKING FOR
00:48:06.58\00:48:11.32
JESUS. SO ON THE
ROAD, DO YOU REMEMBER
00:48:11.32\00:48:13.46
THE DISCIPLES, THEY WERE HEART
BROKEN BECAUSE JESUS HAD JUST
00:48:13.46\00:48:19.53
DIED. >> RIGHT.
00:48:19.53\00:48:20.20
>> JESUS COMES TO THEM, BUT
THEY DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S HIM.
00:48:20.20\00:48:25.33
THEY CAN'T RECOGNIZE HIM.
AND HE BEGINS -- THEY BEGIN
00:48:25.33\00:48:29.60
TELLING HIM -- HE IS
LIKE, WHY ARE YOU SO SAD?
00:48:29.60\00:48:32.71
THEY BEGIN TELLING HIM ALL OF
THE REASONS WHY THEY ARE SAD AND
00:48:32.71\00:48:37.75
DISCOURAGED, AND THEN HE --
HE SAYS TO THEM BELIEVE ALL THAT
00:48:37.75\00:48:44.05
THE PROPHETS HAVE SAID, SHOULD
NOT THESE THINGS HAVE BEEN
00:48:44.05\00:48:48.19
FULFILLED. THE
BIBLE SAYS BEGINNING FROM
00:48:48.19\00:48:50.53
MOSES AND THE PRO PROPHETS HE
BEGAN TO PROFOUND TO HIMSELF IN
00:48:50.53\00:48:55.46
THE SCRIPTURES, ALL OF
THE THINGS CONCERNING HIMSELF.
00:48:55.46\00:48:58.93
HE IS GIVING THESE DISCOURAGED
DISCIPLES, A BIBLE STUDY.
00:48:58.93\00:49:04.37
THEY JUST LOST THE GUY
THEY THOUGHT WAS THE MESSIAH.
00:49:04.37\00:49:07.94
>> RIGHT. >> I
DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, AND
00:49:07.94\00:49:10.68
SOMEONE DIES THAT YOU ARE CLOSE
TO, YOU ARE PROBABLY NOT IN THE
00:49:10.68\00:49:14.35
MOOD -- YOU JUST WANT TO MOURN.
JESUS DECIDES TO PULL THEM OUT
00:49:14.35\00:49:18.59
OF THEIR MOURNING BY
GIVING THEM A BIBLE STUDY.
00:49:18.59\00:49:22.59
THAT BIBLE STUDY MUST HAVE BEEN
SO DEEP AND POWERFUL, BECAUSE IT
00:49:22.59\00:49:27.40
WAS BURN, THEY WERE
LIKE, DID NOT OUR HEARTS BURN.
00:49:27.40\00:49:34.20
>> YES. >> BECAUSE
JESUS BEGAN TO SHOW
00:49:34.20\00:49:36.84
THEM HIMSELF IN ALL OF THE
SCRIPTURES, BEGINNING AT MOSES
00:49:36.84\00:49:42.04
AND THE PROPHETS
THE EXPOUNDS HIMSELF.
00:49:42.04\00:49:46.15
THAT MEANS THAT JESUS IS
ALL OVER THE OLD TESTAMENT.
00:49:46.15\00:49:49.78
IT'S LIKE WALLDO. >> I
USED TO LOVE THOSE BOOKS.
00:49:49.78\00:49:59.69
>> YOU KNOW THAT
WALDO IS IN THERE SOMEWHERE.
00:49:59.69\00:50:03.26
SO WHEN I READ THE SCRIPTURE,
PHOTO-THEOLOGY IS THE ART OF
00:50:03.26\00:50:07.74
LOOKING FOR JESUS ON EVERY PAGE
OF THE SCRIPTURES, BEGINNING
00:50:07.74\00:50:10.74
FROM MOSES AND THE PROPHET.
IN GENESIS 1, GOD SAID LET THERE
00:50:10.74\00:50:17.48
BE LIGHT. JESUS IS LIGHT.
00:50:17.48\00:50:21.28
IN GENESIS 2, GOD
MAKES WATER PROMINENT.
00:50:21.28\00:50:27.39
I'M SORRY ON DAY 2. ON
DAY 3, THE BIBLE SAYS THAT
00:50:27.39\00:50:32.06
GOD BROUGHT THE
FRUITS FROM THE EARTH.
00:50:32.06\00:50:37.10
ON THE THIRD DAY,
THE FIRST FRUITS --
00:50:37.10\00:50:41.34
>> WOW. >> WOW, LOOK AT THAT.
00:50:41.34\00:50:46.04
YES. >> FROM THE GROUND.
00:50:46.04\00:50:47.34
THE THIRD DAY -- >> OH, MY.
00:50:47.34\00:50:49.51
[ LAUGHTER ] >>
ISN'T IT SOMETHING HOW YOU
00:50:49.51\00:50:51.38
CAN READ THAT AND
JUST NOT CONNECT THE DOTS.
00:50:51.38\00:50:55.62
>> UH-HUH. >>
BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT -- YOU
00:50:55.62\00:50:58.99
HAVE HEARD THE
SAYING A PICTURE IS WORTH --
00:50:58.99\00:51:01.79
>> A THOUSAND WORDS. >> UH-HUH.
00:51:01.79\00:51:04.66
>> GODS IS INTO PICTURES.
JUST LOOK AT THE BOOK OF
00:51:04.66\00:51:08.70
REVELATION. IT'S
ALL ABOUT IMAGES.
00:51:08.70\00:51:11.27
LOOK AT THE BOOK OF
DANIEL, GOD IS INTO PICTURES.
00:51:11.27\00:51:15.50
GOD IS CREATIVE BY NATURE,
AND SO OFTEN WE APPROACH THE
00:51:15.50\00:51:21.44
SCRIPTURES WITH THIS -- YOU
KNOW, NARROW -- HERE IS WHAT THE
00:51:21.44\00:51:26.55
TEXT SAYS, AND
WE STOP RIGHT THERE.
00:51:26.55\00:51:29.25
AND, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT -- IT
IS A CHALLENGE WHEN YOU APPROACH
00:51:29.25\00:51:32.92
THE SCRIPTURES, BECAUSE
YOU -- WHAT THE TEXT SAYS
00:51:32.92\00:51:37.13
ABSOLUTELY
IMPORTANT, OKAY? >> UH-HUH.
00:51:37.13\00:51:39.03
>> BUT THERE IS A
DIMENSION BEYOND THAT --
00:51:39.03\00:51:41.60
>> RIGHT. >> THAT
IS BEYOND ON THE INK ON
00:51:41.60\00:51:46.43
THE PAPER, RIGHT? SO
IT'S LIKE WHEN JESUS SAYS
00:51:46.43\00:51:51.21
EXCEPT YOU EAT MY
FLESH AND DRINK MY BLOOD.
00:51:51.21\00:51:54.68
THE JEWS ARE LIKE,
WHAT? HOW DARE YOU?
00:51:54.68\00:51:57.91
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
EATING FLESH AND DRINKING BLOOD?
00:51:57.91\00:52:02.98
ARE YOU CRAZY? THEY
COULD NOT UNDERSTAND THE
00:52:02.98\00:52:06.19
SPIRITUAL SIGNIFICANCE OF HIS
WORDS, SO THEY LOOK LITERALLY
00:52:06.19\00:52:10.06
WHAT HE MEANT TO BE
SPIRTUAL OR SYMBOLIC.
00:52:10.06\00:52:14.03
DESTROY THIS TEMPLE AND IN THREE
DAYS I'LL RAISE IT UP AGAIN.
00:52:14.03\00:52:19.00
YOU HEAR WHAT THIS GUY SAID?
HE SAID HE WOULD DESTROY THIS
00:52:19.00\00:52:27.24
TEMPLE IN THREE DAYS.
NOT REALIZING HE WAS TALKING
00:52:27.24\00:52:30.35
ABOUT HIS BODY. SO THE
WAY THAT JESUS APPROACHED
00:52:30.35\00:52:33.75
THE SCRIPTURES, HE APPROACHED IT
IN A VERY CREATIVE -- BECAUSE HE
00:52:33.75\00:52:38.19
IS THE CREATOR.
>> WITH A PARABLE.
00:52:38.19\00:52:42.09
>> WITH A PARABLE.
JESUS FAVORITE METHOD OF
00:52:42.09\00:52:48.70
TEACHING WAS
THROUGH OBJECT LESSONS.
00:52:48.70\00:52:55.04
WE NEED TO LEARN HOW TO SEE
THE BIBLE AS GOD SEES THE BIBLE,
00:52:55.04\00:52:59.11
RIGHT? HOW TO SEE
THE BIBLE AS JESUS
00:52:59.11\00:53:01.81
SEES THE BIBLE. A LOT
OF TIMES YOU HEAR THE TERM
00:53:01.81\00:53:08.05
EXO-JESUS. WHAT WAS
THE AUTHOR THINKING AS
00:53:08.05\00:53:09.78
HE WAS WRITING, RIGHT? SO
WHEN YOU ARE READING THE BOOK
00:53:09.78\00:53:15.86
OF DANIEL OR ISAIAH, YOU
ARE TRYING TO GET IN THE MIND OF
00:53:15.86\00:53:21.33
ISAIAH, AND WHEN HE WROTE
THS, WHO WAS THE LETTER TO?
00:53:21.33\00:53:24.50
AND WHAT DID HE MEAN BY -- YOU
ARE GETTING INTO THE MIND OF THE
00:53:24.50\00:53:28.74
AUTHOR, AND THAT'S
-- YOU KNOW, PRAISE GOD.
00:53:28.74\00:53:31.24
BUT GUESS WHAT, ISAIAH IS NOT
THE ULTIMATE AUTHOR OF THE BOOK
00:53:31.24\00:53:37.75
OF ISAIAH. WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT THE ULTIMATE
00:53:37.75\00:53:41.92
AUTHOR, WHICH IS
GOD HIMSELF. >> YOEP.
00:53:41.92\00:53:47.66
-- YEP. >> WHICH
IS JESUS HIMSELF.
00:53:47.66\00:53:51.69
SO I HAVE TO GET IN THE MIND
OF JESUS IF I WANT TO UNDERSTAND
00:53:51.69\00:53:55.43
THE FULL DEPTH OF THE
SCRIPTURES, AND WHAT BETTER WAY
00:53:55.43\00:53:59.23
TO HAVE THIS MIND BE IN
YOU, WHICH WAS IN CHRIST JESUS?
00:53:59.23\00:54:02.47
>> YES. >> THAT'S
WHY STUDYING THE BIBLE
00:54:02.47\00:54:06.01
HELPS US TO
RECEIVE THE MIND OF CHRIST.
00:54:06.01\00:54:08.91
ASK DANIEL IF HE UNDERSTOOD
HALF OF THE THINGS HE WROTE.
00:54:08.91\00:54:14.45
[ LAUGHTER ] >> I'M
GOING TO BE RIGHT WHERE
00:54:14.45\00:54:18.12
DANIEL WAS. I UNDERSTAND NOT.
00:54:18.12\00:54:20.66
RIGHT? >> YEAH.
00:54:20.66\00:54:21.56
>> SO THERE WAS ONE GREATER THAN
DANIEL WHO UNDERSTOOD, OKAY,
00:54:21.56\00:54:26.59
WHAT DID GOD INTEND WHEN HE WAS
TELLING DANIEL WHAT TO WRITE.
00:54:26.59\00:54:31.77
SO THAT'S WHERE -- YOU KNOW, I
REALLY SEE A NEED TO TRY TO GET
00:54:31.77\00:54:37.77
INTO THE MINE OF GOD, TO
GET INTO THE MIND OF CHRIST TO
00:54:37.77\00:54:41.64
UNDERSTAND THE SCRIPTURES.
THAT CAMERA, THAT BIBLE STORY,
00:54:41.64\00:54:47.22
THAT TEXT, WHERE IS
CHRIST IN THIS STORY?
00:54:47.22\00:54:50.22
>> UH-HUH. >> AND
THAT'S -- SO THAT WOULD
00:54:50.22\00:54:53.69
BE A JUICED DOWN VERSION
THUS FAR OF PHOTO-THEOLOGY.
00:54:53.69\00:54:57.83
>> THAT IS AMAZING. >> IT IS.
00:54:57.83\00:54:59.93
>> I MEAN, REALLY, WHEN YOU
ARE LOOKING FOR CHRIST ON EVERY
00:54:59.93\00:55:04.23
PAGE. I REMEMBER
YOU CAME AND DID A
00:55:04.23\00:55:07.40
3ABN CAMP MEETING, AND YOU
PREACHED A SERIES -- HEART BURN
00:55:07.40\00:55:12.47
AND YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, BUT
YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW TO
00:55:12.47\00:55:16.14
FIND JESUS ON EVERY PAGE,
AND YOU GAVE ILLUSTRATIONS
00:55:16.14\00:55:19.25
THROUGHOUT THE BIBLE,
A JUICED DOWN VERSION.
00:55:19.25\00:55:22.15
>> A JUICED-DOWN
VERSION. >> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
00:55:22.15\00:55:26.65
AND IT MAKES YOU LOOK AT
THE BIBLE IN A WHOLE NEW LIGHT.
00:55:26.65\00:55:30.46
>> YEAH. >> WELL,
I LIKE WHAT YOU SAID
00:55:30.46\00:55:33.76
ABOUT -- GOD
NEVER WASTES ANYTHING.
00:55:33.76\00:55:36.03
AND, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT.
WE KNOW THE WAY HE MOVES, HE
00:55:36.03\00:55:40.40
DOESN'T WASTE -- HE DOESN'T
JUST ACCOMPLISH ONE THING.
00:55:40.40\00:55:44.17
HE ACCOMPLISHES MANY
THINGS WITH ONE MOVE.
00:55:44.17\00:55:46.84
>> RIGHT. >> SO IT
BARES TO REASON THAT HE
00:55:46.84\00:55:50.15
WOULD HAVE THIS WHOLE
MULTI-DIMENSIONAL ASPECT IN THE
00:55:50.15\00:55:54.62
WORD. >> UH-HUH.
00:55:54.62\00:55:56.18
>> YOU DIDN'T JUST SAY
MULTI-DIMENSIONAL, DID YOU?
00:55:56.18\00:56:00.66
>> I DID. >> YOU DID, DIDN'T
YOU?->> OH, WAIT A MINUTE.
00:56:00.66\00:56:04.96
>> AND THAT'S NICE
THAT YOU SAID THAT.
00:56:04.96\00:56:07.66
BECAUSE THAT IS ONE OF
THE ASPECTS OF PHOTO-THEOLOGY.
00:56:07.66\00:56:13.47
IT'S ANOTHER PRINCIPLE I HAVE
CALLED FIVE-DIMENSIONAL BIBLE
00:56:13.47\00:56:19.11
STUDY. >> OH.
00:56:19.11\00:56:19.71
>> SO I DON'T KNOW IF
YOU WANT TO -- YOU LEAD.
00:56:19.71\00:56:23.04
>> OKAY. I DO WHEN WE COME
BACK.-BECAUSE -- YEAH, I DON'T
00:56:23.04\00:56:28.58
WANT TO START, AND THEN
WE TAKE OUR LITTLE BREAK --
00:56:28.58\00:56:30.69
>> YEAH. >> BUT WHEN YOU THINK
00:56:30.69\00:56:32.79
ABOUT -- WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT
GOD AND THE WAY THE BIBLE IS
00:56:32.79\00:56:36.86
WRITTEN, LIKE -- IN OUR
SALVATION AND SYMBOLS AND SIGNS,
00:56:36.86\00:56:42.23
IT'S AMAZING TO ME HOW THESE NEW
THOUGHTS -- THESE NEW ASPECTS OF
00:56:42.23\00:56:47.60
THE TEXT JUST
COME INTO YOUR MIND.
00:56:47.60\00:56:51.37
THE HOLY SPIRIT BRINGS YOU
A WHOLE NEW WAY TO LOOK AT THE
00:56:51.37\00:56:55.84
TEXT. >> I
REALLY -- IN THE SECOND
00:56:55.84\00:56:57.98
HOUR, I REALLY WANT YOU TO
GO OVER DANIEL, THE STATUE, THE
00:56:57.98\00:57:02.72
AMAZING POINT THAT YOU BROUGHT
OUT WHILE WE WERE RECORDING --
00:57:02.72\00:57:06.29
>> WHICH ONE DANIEL 2? >>
I BELIEVE IT WAS DANIEL 2.
00:57:06.29\00:57:11.03
YES, THAT STATUE, ABSOLUTELY.
>> WE WANT YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT
00:57:11.03\00:57:15.66
YOU CALL PEOPLE AND TELL
THEM TO TUNE INTO THIS PROGRAM.
00:57:15.66\00:57:18.47
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE FOUND
IS THAT WE ALL NEED TO STUDY THE
00:57:18.47\00:57:25.47
SCRIPTURES TO GET REALLY INTO
THE SCRIPTURES DEEPLY, AND MANY
00:57:25.47\00:57:29.98
TIMES WE DON'T
KNOW HOW TO DO THAT.
00:57:29.98\00:57:31.81
SO CALL YOUR FRIENDS -- AS DANNY
WOULD SAY -- CALL YOUR FRIENDS,
00:57:31.81\00:57:36.72
YOUR ENEMIES, EVERYBODY, AND
TELL THEM TO TUNE IN AND WATCH
00:57:36.72\00:57:40.19
THIS PROGRAM. STAY TUNED.
00:57:40.19\00:57:42.16
WE'RE GOING TO BE RIGHT BACK
WITH SOME MORE PRECIOUS INCITES.
00:57:42.16\00:57:45.33
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00:57:45.33\00:57:48.90