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Series Code: TDYL
Program Code: TDYL190011B
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00:12 >>> WELCOME BACK TO THE SECOND HOUR OF THE PROGRM.
00:17 IF YOU WATCHED THE FIRST HOUR, YOU WERE PROBABLY SAYING, GET TO 00:22 THE TOPIC. [ LAUGHTER ] 00:24 >> WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE LIZZIE CHAMBWA WHO IS THE FOUNDER OF 00:28 HARRISON'S REFERRAL SERVICES, AND HAS SUCH A MINISTRY IN ST. 00:31 LOUIS, MISSOURI. IF YOU WERE PART OF THE FIRST 00:35 HOUR, YOU SAW THE 15-MINUTE VIDEO, WHICH WAS VERY 00:38 INFORMATIVE. >> AND AS LIZZIE SAID, THEY ARE 00:40 LIKE FAMILY TO HER. THEY GO OUT. 00:43 AND, YOU KNOW, SHE HAS A RELATIONSHIP WITH THOSE LADIES. 00:46 IT'S MORE THAN JUST AN ACQUAINTANCE. 00:49 IT'S A RELATIONSHIP. >> AND THEN -- AND THEN ALSO, 00:52 THE SEVEN FACES OF ABUSE, WE TALKED ABOUT JUST ONE, AND I 00:56 DON'T KNOW -- WE'RE GOING TO DRIVE RIGHT BACK INTO THE 01:00 PROGRAM, RATHER THAN GOING TO MUSIC, BECAUSE WE FEEL THAT WHAT 01:03 GOD HAS OPENED THE DOOR FOR YOU TO SAY IS OF SUCH GREAT 01:07 IMPORTANCE, BUT IF ANYTHING WE TALK ABOUT IN THE SECOND HOUR 01:11 OPENS THE DOOR FOR YOU, YOU CAN CALL 618-627-4651, OR YOU CAN 01:19 SEND THOSE, I BELIEVE TO -pABN.TV. YOU SAID IT EFFECTS THE WHOLE 01:43 HOME STRUCTURE? >> YES, BECAUSE IF THERE ARE 01:46 CHILDREN INVOLVED IN THE HOME, IT'S NOT ONLY THE ADULT THAT 01:51 ENDURES THE ABUSE, IT GOES DOWN TO THE CHILDREN. 01:54 AND WHEN THE CHILDREN ENDURE IT, IT'S A LOT MORE HARD -- THERE'S 02:00 A LOT MORE CHILDREN COMMITTING SUICIDE BECAUSE OF THE BULLYING 02:04 AT SCHOOL. A LOT OF TIMES WE WONDER -- WOW, 02:07 IT TOOK THAT MUCH AT SCHOOL FOR A CHILD TO DO THAT, BUT A LOT OF 02:14 TIMES, WE DON'T UNDERSTAND THE BULLYING IS NOT JUST AT SCHOOL, 02:18 IT'S AT HOME. THEY ARE GETTING IT AT BOTH 02:22 ENDS. AND YOU CAN ONLY ENDURE SO MUCH, 02:25 UNTIL YOU START TO BELIEVE WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING TO YOU. 02:28 YOU START TO BELIEVE WHAT THE ABUSER SAYS ABOUT YOU. 02:32 AND IT TAKES ON A WHOLE PERSONALITY. 02:34 A LOT OF PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IDENTITY THEM, I BELIEVE 02:38 DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS A FORM OF IDENTITY THEFT. 02:41 >> WOW. >> THAT'S TRUE. 02:43 >> YOU LOSE WHO YOU ARE. >> YOU LOSE WHO YOU ARE. 02:47 >> IT STEALS YOU AWAY FROM YOURSELF. 02:50 >> AND THE BULLYING IS TERRIBLE. AND THE ADULT BULLYING, WE 02:54 SHOULD NOT CALL EACH OTHER NAMES AND PUT EACH OTHER DOWN. 02:57 >> AMEN. >> WE ARE GOD'S PEOPLE, WE ARE 03:00 THE TEMPLE OF GOD, AND WHEN YOU ABUSE GOD'S TEMPLE, IT'S NOT 03:05 RIGHT, IT IS? >> AND IF YOU GREW UP IN A HOME 03:09 WITH VERBAL ABUSE, AND I'M SURE SOME OF OUR LISTENERS MAY HAVE 03:15 BEEN IN HOMES LIKE THAT, ARE IN HOMES LIKE THAT NOW, AND WHEN 03:21 YOU GROW UP, YOU SOMETIMES FIND YOURSELF BENG VERBALLY ABUSIVE, 03:25 BECAUSE THAT'S ALL YOU KNOW. NOBODY EVER SPOKE ANY ENERGY 03:31 INTO YOU. IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN REJECTION AND 03:35 ANGER, AND, YOU KNOW, MISERY. HOW CAN YOU GIVE SOMEBODY 03:42 SOMETHING YOU NEVER HAD. >> LIKE THAT SAYING, STICKS AND 03:50 STONES MAY BREAK MY BONES, BUT WORDS WILL NEVER HURT ME. 03:55 >> BUT IT REALLY DOES HURT. I THINK EVEN AS PEOPLE -- EVEN 04:00 AS CHRISTIAN OR NON-CHRISTIANS, WE HAVE TO BE REALLY CAREFUL HOW 04:06 WE TREAT PEOPLE. TAKE TIME TO BE PRAYERFUL ABOUT 04:09 THE THINGS THAT YOU SAY, EVEN WHEN YOU ARE SAYING, I DON'T 04:17 LOVE. AND I HAD TO LEARN THAT TOO, -BECAUSE GOING THROUGH AN ABUSIVE 04:21 RELATIONSHIP, I HAD TO FIND OUT WHEN I WOULD ADDRESS AND SPEAK 04:25 TO PEOPLE, THAT WHAT I'M SAYING IS OUT OF LOVE. 04:28 NOW I MAKE SURE I'M VERY PRAYERFUL ABOUT -- GOD, YOU TELL 04:33 ME WHAT TO SAY. THEY SHOULD BE SEASONED WIH 04:36 YOUR LOVE AND GRACE, BECAUSE IF I DO IT OUT OF MY OWN WILL, IT 04:42 MIGHT NOT COME OUT THE WAY THE PERSON RECEIVES IT. 04:48 AND WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL. >> THE BIBLE SAYS YOU HAVE DONE 04:54 IT UNTO THE LEAST OF THE, YOU HAVE DONE IT UNTO ME. 04:59 >> WHEN YOU ABUSE PEOPLE, YOU ARE IN ESSENCE -- THE LORD IS 05:04 RECEIVING THAT SAME ABUSE, BECAUSE WE ARE HIS CHILDREN. 05:08 I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER TEXT THAT SAYS IT'S A BETTER THAT A 05:14 MILL STONE BE PUT AROUND YOUR NECK AND YOU BE CAST INTO THE 05:17 SEA THAN TO OFFEND THESE LITTLE ONES. 05:24 AND YOU WERE LOOKING UP TECHNOLOGY ABUSE. 05:27 >> YEAH. >> THEY ARE GETTING THESE 05:31 ABUSIVE MESSAGES THROUGH THEIR TEXTS. 05:34 >> IT IS SO TRUE, AND THAT'S WHY FAMILIES NEED TO SPEND MORE TIME 05:41 TOGETHER. WE DON'T EAT DINNER TOGETHER. 05:45 WE DON'T ASK HOW WAS YOUR DAY IN WE DON'T GO TO WALKS TOGETHER. 05:53 AND I FIND MY SON TUGS AT ME, AND I HAVE TO TELL MYSELF YOU 05:57 HAVE TO PUT THE TABLET DOWN. >> YES. 06:00 >> JUST TO GIVE HIM THAT TIME THAT HE NEEDS, EVEN THOUGH I 06:05 KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT TO HIM, I HAVE TO MAKE SURE I GIVE HIM 06:09 THAT TIME HE NEEDS, AND HE FEELS REALLY GOOD ABOUT IT WHEN I POUR 06:13 MY ENERGY INTO HIM, BECAUSE I SPEND MOST OF MY TIME IN THE 06:18 COMMUNITY WITH OTHER PEOPLE, BUT WHEN I'M AT HOME I SPEND TIME 06:21 WITH MY HUSBAND, THINK CHILDREN, MY GRANDCHILDREN. 06:24 I STILL GO OUT ON DATES WITH MY SON. 06:26 HE IS 19 YEARS OLD. WE HANG OUT TOGETHER. 06:29 HE LOVES HIS MOMMA. HE TELLS ME HOW MUCH HE MISSES 06:34 MY FOOD. BUT I SPEND TIME WITH EACH ONE 06:37 OF MY CHILDREN AND MY GRANDCHILDREN, AND I SPEND TIME 06:41 WITH EVERY INDIVIDUAL PERSON. >> THAT'S POWER -- THAT'S 06:45 EMPOWERING. >> IT IS. 06:46 >> I WAS THINKING HOW AM I GOING TO GET SOMETHING POSITIVE OUT OF 06:51 BULLYING AND VERBAL ABUSE, AND YOU ARE SHOWING THE OPPOSITE 06:55 SIDE OF IT. I'M LEARNING AS YOU TALK, 06:59 BECAUSE WE ALL -- WE ARE SHAPED BY THE HOME WE ARE RAISED IN. 07:07 I WAS ABANDONED AT 3 MONTHS OLD, AND WAS RAISED BY AN ADVENTIST 07:22 WOMAN. AND HER HUSBAND WAS NOT A 07:25 CHRISTIAN, BUT HE WAS LOUD. BUT THEN YOU HAVE THE OTHER SIDE 07:30 OF -- THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT WHERE SOME PEOPLE HAVE HOMES 07:33 WHERE THEIR CHILDREN ARE ALWAYS IN ADULTS BUSINESS, AND THEY 07:37 GROW UP WITH DISRESPECT, SO YOU ARE FINDING A WAY TO BALANCE 07:41 THAT. I LOVE THAT. 07:43 SHOW YOUR SON AT 19, HE LOVES HIS MOM. 07:46 TAKE TIME FOR YOUR SON, PUT THE TABLET DOWN. 07:51 >> [ INAUDIBLE ] MY LOVE CUP IS EMPTY. 07:53 [ LAUGHTER ] >> AND I'M LISTENING TO YOU, AND 07:55 A LOT OF YOUR PARALLELS PARALLEL THE LIFE OF A PASTOR. 08:01 >> YES. >> BE IN MINISTRY, POURING 08:03 YOURSELF OUT ON PEOPLE, AND I KNOW THAT, BECAUSE MY 08:06 WIFE -- SOMETIMES SHE SAYS MY LOVE CUP IS EMPTY. 08:10 SO WE HAVE A NIGHT -- WE -- WE SECURE THAT NIGHT FOR US. 08:14 IT'S USUALLY THURSDAY NIGHT, BUT WE'RE TOGETHER. 08:16 >> WE'RE TOGETHER. SO THAT'S OKAY. 08:19 >> AMEN. >> BUT WE ALSO MAKE SURE WE GO 08:23 OUT TOGETHER, WE GO SHOPPING TOGETHER. 08:25 >> WE HAVE DINNER TOGETHER. >> WE ALWAYS EAT DINNER TOGETHER 08:29 EVERY NIGHT. >> THAT IS A BEAUTIFUL THING, 08:31 AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ENCOURAGE 08:35 THAT -- IN FAMILY LIFE MINISTRY, ENCOURAGE THAT IN MINISTRY, 08:40 FAMILY, FAMILY IS THE KEY. THAT'S WHAT EVERYTHING WAS 08:44 FOUNDED UPON. WHEN GOD, YOU KNOW, CREATED ADAM 08:48 AND EVE HE HAD THEM COME TOGETHER TO MAKE A FAMILY. 08:53 HE SAID BE FRUITFUL AND MULTIPLY. 08:56 IT WAS JUST ABOUT THE HUSBAND AND THE WIFE, THEN THE WORLD 09:01 WOULD BE BORING. BUT GOD GAVE US CHILDREN. 09:04 HE WANTED US TO RAISE THEM UP AND TO NOURISH THEM SO WE CAN 09:08 GIVE OUR CHILDREN THE SAME LOVE THAT GOD GIVES US. 09:11 >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> WHEN GOD LOVES ON US, WE CAN 09:15 LOVE ON YOUR CHILDREN, SO IF WE DON'T SPEND TIME WITH GOD, HOW 09:19 ARE WE GOING TO LOVE OUR CHILDREN? 09:21 WE WOULDN'T KNOW HOW TO TREAT THEM? 09:25 HOW TO LOVE THEM. WE HAVE TO FIRST BECOME THOSE 09:30 PEOPLE IN ORDER FOR US TO BE ABLE TO RAISE OUR CHILDREN TO 09:33 BECOME THE PEOPLE THAT GOD WANTS THEM TO BE. 09:38 WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR LIVES. >> THAT'S RIGHT. 09:41 >> AND THAT'S WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MENTAL ABUSE -- 09:44 >> THE SEC ONE IS MENTAL ABUSE. >> YEAH, THE MENTAL ABUSE IS 09:47 WHEN A PERSON TRIES TO MAKE YOU FEEL LIKE YOU ARE CRAZY, OR YOU 09:51 DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. 09:53 OR YOU NEED HELP. YOU NEED TO SEE A DOCTOR, YOU 09:56 KNOW, BUT IT ALL TIES IN WITH THE PSYCHOLOGICAL PART OF ABUSE 10:00 AS WELL. I KNOW I'M JUMPING THE GUN A 10:04 LITTLE BIT. BUT THE MENTAL AND THE 10:06 PSYCHOLOGICAL COMBINES TOGETHER, BECAUSE IT PLAYS ON THE MIND. 10:13 AND IF A PERSON CAN MAKE YOU FEEL INCOMPETENT, AND MAYBE IT 10:20 IS MY FAULT. MAYBE I MADE HER ANGRY. 10:23 MAYBE I MADE HIM ANGRY. THAT'S WHY HE IS HITTING ME. 10:28 THAT'S A LOT OF TIME WHY WE STAY IN AN ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP, 10:34 BECAUSE THE GUILT COMES UPON YOU, AND THE ABUSER MAKES YOU 10:38 FEEL LIKE IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT, SO THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE TO 10:41 ENDURE, BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE DONE TO CAUSE THE 10:44 SITUATION. >> WOW. 10:45 >> AND THAT'S WHY IT IS SO HARD TO BELIEVE. 10:48 >> RIGHT. BECAUSE YOU TAKE THE BLAME. 10:51 >> BECAUSE YOUR MIND -- THE PSYCHOLOGICAL PART OF THE ABUSE 10:55 HAS MADE US FEEL LIKE EVERYTHING IS OUR PART. 10:57 >> AND RATHER THAN YOU -- RATHER THAN YOU REJECTING THAT, IT 11:02 BECOMES A PART OF HOW YOU THINK. >> UH-HUH. 11:04 >> YES, IT DOES. AND THE THING ABOUT IT IS, WE 11:08 HAVE TO GIVE OUR MINDS OVER TO GOD. 11:10 WE HAVE TO GIVE OUR MINES OVER TO PRAYER. 11:12 WE HAVE TO GIVE OUR MINES OVER TO EVERYTHING. 11:15 THAT'S WHY GOD TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE EAT AND WHAT WE WEAR, AND HOW 11:19 WE DRESS, HOW WE SPEAK. EVERYTHING WE DO PLAYS A PART ON 11:23 OUR BEING AND WHO WE REALLY ARE. AND SOMETIMES YOUR ABUSER CAN 11:27 SEE THAT ENERGY. SOMETIMES PEOPLE CAN SEE 11:29 SOMETHING IN YOU THAT THEY DON'T HAVE, AND THEY WANT TO TAKE IT. 11:33 THEY WANT TO STEAL IT. INSTEAD OF GETTING ON THEIR 11:36 KNEES TO PRAY TO GOD TO ASK FOR THAT SAME ENERGY AND POWER, AND 11:41 SAY HOW WOULD YOU GET LIKE THIS? THEY WANT TO TAKE IT. 11:45 THEY WANT TO STEAL IT FROM YOU. AND WHEN THEY DO IT, IT'S IN 11:49 PAIN. THEY WANT TO HURT YOU, BECAUSE 11:50 THEY WANT TO BRING YOU DOWN HERE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THEY 11:53 ARE AT. THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE. 11:55 >> THAT'S SO TRUE. >> YOU KNOW, SO WE HAVE TO BE 11:59 REALLY CAREFUL ON HOW WE APPROACH PEOPLE. 12:01 >> YES. >> YOU KNOW, OUR CHARACTER, YOU 12:05 KNOW, WE'RE SAYING WE ARE CHRISTIAN, AND WE LOVE GOD, AND 12:09 WE ARE REPRESENTING THE KINGDOM OF GOD. 12:12 PEOPLE WILL BE LOOKING FOR THEIR REPRESENTATION IN US AT ALL 12:17 TIMES. SOME PEOPLE ARE SO USED TO BE 12:21 PUT DOWN, AND ABUSED, THEY ARE EXPECTING THE SAME THING WITH 12:25 YOU. AND IT'S REALLY HARD TO GET THEM 12:28 TO TRUST AGAIN. AND THAT'S WHERE THAT WALL 12:30 COMES. ONCE YOU HAVE BEEN ABUSED -- I 12:33 HAD A WALL. IT'S A PROTECTION. 12:35 BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH THAT ANYMORE, SO YOU 12:38 THINK EVERYBODY THAT YOU COME TO, YOU START TO ANALYZE, AND 12:41 THIS RADAR GOES UP. AND THE LORD SAID TEST EVERY 12:45 SPIRIT, OH, MY GOODNESS, I WAS TESTING SPIRIT, BODY LANGUAGE, 12:51 YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING. I JUST LOST IT. 12:55 IT WAS A WAY TO PROTECT ME, BUT THEN GOD SAYS, JUST COME DOWN A 13:00 NOTCH, BECAUSE I WANT YOU TO LOVE AGAIN. 13:02 >> I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU, HOW DID YOU RECOVER FROM THAT? 13:06 BECAUSE I'M LISTENING TO YOU AN I'M LEARNING AS I'M LISTENING TO 13:11 YOU, BECAUSE YOU SAID SOMETHING A MOMENT AGO THAT I WANT TO GO 13:14 BACK TO AND HIGHLIGHT. YOU SAID ABUSE HAPPENS -- IT'S 13:19 CRAZY -- NOT USE THE WORD CRAZY -- IT'S VEALING THE WAY 13:23 YOU SAID IT. SOMETIMES PEOPLE SEE WHAT YOU 13:26 HAVE, THEY WANT TO BRING YOU DOWN. 13:28 AND THEN OTHER TIMES, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO SEE WHERE YOU ARE, 13:32 AND THEY WANT TO KEEP YOU DOWN. >> YES. 13:37 >> THAT -- I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. 13:40 >> YOU KNOW, AND EVEN -- YOU KNOW, JUST GROWING UP IN CHRIST, 13:42 AND I'M STILL GROWING UP IN CHRIST, AND I LIKE THE FACT THAT 13:46 I CAN COME TO GOD LIKE A LITTLE CHILD EVERY DAY, BECAUSE I AM 13:50 HIS CHILD. I AM LEARNING SOMETHING NEW 13:52 EVERY DAY, AND EVEN JUST BEING IN MINISTRY, AND A WOMAN IN 13:56 MINISTRY, HAS NOT BEEN EASY ME EITHER. 14:00 I HAVE ENDURED ABUSE AS WELL IN MINISTRY, BECAUSE I AM A WOMAN. 14:04 >> IT'S TRUE. >> BECAUSE OF WHO I AM AND WHAT 14:08 I HAVE BEEN THROUGH, AND WHEN I STAND UP FOR MYSELF -- OR I WILL 14:13 SAY STAND UP FOR GOD, THEN PEOPLE SAY, OH, YOU HAVE BEEN 14:18 THROUGH ABUSE, YOU HAVE GOT ISSUES. 14:20 SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH YOU. I STILL GET THAT FROM PEOPLE. 14:23 YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU DO THIS AND DO THAT, THAT DOESN'T MEAN 14:28 THAT YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, OVERRIDE THIS AND DO WHATEVER YOU WANT. 14:31 YOUR PLACE IS OVER HERE AND YOUR PLACE IS OVER THERE, AND WHO 14:35 GAVE YOU AUTHORITY TO PREACH THE GOSPEL? 14:37 WHO GAVE YOU THE AUTHORITY TO DO THIS AND THAT? 14:40 GOD HAS GIVEN ME AUTHORITY. >> AMEN. 14:43 AMEN. THAT'S RIGHT. 14:44 >> GOD HAS GIVEN EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US AUTHORITY TO TRAMPLE 14:53 ON SERPENTS. AND I KNOW THIS NOW. 14:56 I WAS ABLE TO LOVE AGAIN, BECAUSE I WANTED TO SPEND TIME 15:00 BY MYSELF TO KNOW WHO I WAS. SO WHEN I GOT INTO A NEW 15:05 RELATIONSHIP, I DIDN'T WANT TO BRING IT BACK INTO THE OLD 15:09 RELATIONSHIP, SO I STAYED SINGLE FOR SEVEN YEARS. 15:12 AND I GOT TRAINED IN MINISTRY. A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW, I'M 15:17 AN ELDER, BUT I DON'T TALK ABOUT IT -- BUT I'M AN ELDER.-I HAVE BEEN A MINISTRY LEADER. 15:25 A DEACONIST.-pI HAVE BEEN A DOOR KEEPER. I WORKED IN THE KITCHEN, I HAVE 15:36 DONE IT ALL. BECAUSE I WANT TO SERVE. 15:39 AND SPENDING TIME BY MYSELF GAVE ME TIME TO HEAL, BECAUSE THE NEW 15:44 MAN THAT GOT PUT IN MY LIFE, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE HE DIDN'T 15:48 HAVE TO PAY FOR WHAT MY ABUSER DID TO ME. 15:51 >> THAT'S IMPORTANT. >> IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. 15:56 >> I TELL PEOPLE DON'T JUMP FROM ONE RELATIONSHIP TO THE NEXT. 15:59 YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GIVE TOTAL OF YOURSELF WHAT THAT 16:05 NEW RELATIONSHIP NEEDS. >> AND DON'T EXPECT THE NEW 16:12 RELATIONSHIP TO HEAL THE OLD ONE. 16:14 >> EXACTLY. AND SOMETIMES WE USE THEM AS -- 16:17 >> AS A PHYSICIAN -- >> YOU KNOW, AS -- WE 16:21 USE -- SOMETIMES WE USE NEW RELATIONSHIPS AS A 16:25 STEPPING-STONE TO GET OVER THE LAST RELATIONSHIP. 16:29 AND WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE COUNSELING WE NEEDED OR THE 16:33 SPIRITUAL HEALING. BEFORE YOU CAN BE ABLE TO GIVE 16:41 YOURSELF INTO A RELATIONSHIP, YOU HAVE TO FORGIVE, YOU HAVE TO 16:46 HAVE A CLEAN HEART. HOW CAN YOU ASK A CHRISTIAN 16:51 WOMAN OR CHRISTIAN MAN, IF YOU ARE NOT THAT PERSON. 16:55 YOU HAVE TO BECOME WHAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR. 16:58 >> VERY GOOD POINT. THAT'S A GOOD SEGUE -- ARE WE ON 17:03 PSYCHOLOGICAL. >> I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE 17:06 ECONOMIC. >> OKAY. 17:06 >> THE ECONOMIC IS CONTROLLING THE MONEY. 17:09 A LOT OF TIMES IF THEY ARE THE BREADWINNER OF THE HOME -- IT 17:13 CAN BE A WOMAN OR A MAN, IT'S NOT JUST WOMEN AND CHILDREN WHO 17:19 ARE BEING ABUSED. WE HAVE MEN THAT ARE VICTIMS OF 17:23 DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. I HAVE A FEW MEN THAT I TALK TO 17:25 AS WELL, BUT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT ECONOMIC ABUSE 17:28 IS CONTROLLING THE FINANCES, CONTROLLING THE MONEY, SAYING 17:33 YOU CAN'T HAVE A JOB -- YOU CAN'T WORK. 17:39 >> WELL, WHERE IS YOUR PAYCHECK? >> EXACTLY. 17:44 AND THEY WILL ISOLATE YOU FROM YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS FROM YOUR 17:47 JOB, FROM YOUR CAREER, ISOLATE YOU FROM ANYTHING JUST TO SERVE 17:52 THEM. >> WAIT A MINUTE, SO I WANT TO 17:54 DIVE INTO THAT, BECAUSE -- WOW, THAT CROSSES ALL ECONOMIC 17:58 LEVELS. >> UH-HUH. 17:59 >> BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE ARE VERY WELL OFF, AND THEY WILL SAY, YOU 18:03 DON'T HAVE TO WORK. I'LL TAKE CARE OF ALL OF YOUR 18:07 NEEDS. AND IT FALLS APART RELATIONALLY, 18:11 THEN THAT PERSON IS NOT MAKING MONEY, AND ABLE TO SUSTAIN 18:16 THEMSELVES, BECAUSE I KNOW SOME STAY AT HOME DADS, AND SOME STAY 18:22 AT HOME MOMS. YOU KNOW THE MR. MOM. 18:25 >> YOU HAVE A COUSIN THAT IS A MR. MOM. 18:28 >> YES, HE IS VERY WELL EDUCATED, BUT HE IS A MR. MOM. 18:37 SO THAT'S WHY IT'S GOOD TO HAVE PEOPLE -- TO BE OUT IN PUBLIC, 18:41 TO BE FUNCTIONING ON YOUR OWN LEVEL, TO HAVE YOUR OWN 18:45 IDENTITY. >> JUST TO HAVE YOUR OWN -- AND 18:47 ANOTHER THING I WANTED TO SHARE, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE 18:50 MARRIED OR IF YOU ARE MARRIED -- IF YOU ARE LISTENING 18:54 AND YOU ARE MARRIED, EVEN THOUGH GOD BRINGS YOU TOGETHER AS ONE, 18:58 YOU ARE STILL ONE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME YOU ARE STILL AN 19:02 INDIVIDUAL. >> THANK YOU. 19:03 >> AMEN. >> YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO DO WHAT 19:06 YOU LIKE TO DO, TO BE YOUR OWN PERSON, TO HAVE YOUR OWN 19:10 MINISTRY. YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO DO WHATEVER 19:12 YOU LIKE TO DO, AND YOUR HUSBAND HAS A RIGHT TO DO WHATEVER HE 19:16 LIKES TO DO, AND THEN YOU ALL COME TOGETHER AND DO SOMETHING 19:20 TOGETHER. >> THAT'S RIGHT. 19:21 >> AND THAT'S THE BEAUTIFUL PART OF THE RELATIONSHIP. 19:29 EVEN THOUGH WE'RE ONE.-I'M NOT TAKING YOUR IDENTITY, AND YOU ARE NOT TAKING MINE. 19:36 WE SUPPORT EACH OTHER AND WE SUPPORT OURS TOGETHER. 19:41 THAT'S THE FOUNDATION WE NEED. AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT ANYMORE. 19:44 WE NEED TO EDUCATE OUR YOUNG PEOPLE ON HOW TO LOVE, HOW TO BE 19:52 IN A RELATIONSHIP. HELP THEM COPE WITH THE PAST 19:56 PAIN, AND SAY NOW I'M READY TO BE A WIFE. 19:59 NOW I'M READY TO BE A HUSBAND. NOW I'M READY TO GIVE OF MYSELF. 20:05 >> SOMEBODY ONCE SAID A MARRIAGE IS 50/50. 20:08 I SAID IF YOU THINK MARRIAGE IS 50/50, YOU DON'T KNOW WOMEN AND 20:13 YOU DON'T KNOW MATH. I DON'T GIVE HER 50% AND SHE 20:18 GIVES ME 50%. THAT MEANS I'M KEEPING HALF OF 20:22 MYSELF BACK AND SHE IS KEEPING HALF OF HERSELF BACK. 20:26 WE TRAVEL ALL OVER THE WORLD TOGETHER.-WE WERE INVITED SOMEPLACE AND 20:33 SOMEBODY WROTE AND SAID WHAT IS YOUR WIFE GOING TO DO? 20:37 AND I SAID SHE IS GOING TO BE MY WIFE, I WANT HER TO BE WITH ME. 20:42 THEY SAID WELL, HOW CAN WE JUSTIFY THE EXPERIENCE? 20:45 I SAID IF -- EITHER YOU JUSTIFY THE EXPERIENCE OR YOU CANCEL ME, 20:50 BECAUSE WE ARE ONE. >> AND THAT'S POWERFUL, AND 20:53 THAT'S HOW -- YOU KNOW, THE FOUNDATION OF A FAMILY SHOULD 20:57 BE. I CALL THAT A ROCK. 21:00 YOU KNOW -- YOU KNOW, YOU CAN BE OVER HERE AND OVER THERE, BUT 21:02 YOU COME TOGETHER. YOU ARE A ROCK NOBODY CAN MOVE 21:06 THAT. WHEN THEY SEE YOU AS A COUPLE, 21:09 THEY KNOW THAT NOBODY CAN GET IN THE MIDST OF ANYTHING YOU ARE 21:14 DOING TOGETHER. THEY KNOW WHEN THEY SEE JOHN, 21:17 THEY ARE GOING TO SEE ANGIE. AND THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL THING. 21:21 AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE SEVEN FACES OF ABUSE, WE'RE TALKING 21:25 ABOUT VERBAL ABUSE, EMOTIONAL ABUSE, PHYSICAL ABUSE, ECONOMIC 21:31 ABUSE, AND SPIRITUAL. LET ME TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ABOUT 21:34 THE SPIRITUAL ABUSE REALLY QUICKLY. 21:36 BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT YOU ARE IN 21:39 THE LORD OR YOU ARE IN CHURCH, WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO USE 21:44 SCRIPTURES TO CONTROL YOU WITH. AND THAT'S WHERE I'M TALKING 21:52 ABOUT LEADERSHIP. EVERY DAY WHEN YOU HAVE ELDERS 21:55 OR LEADERSHIP IN THE CHURCH -- IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT 22:00 CHURCH YOU ARE IN, ABUSERS ARE EVERYWHERE. 22:04 >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> AND THEY THRIVE IN THE HOUSE 22:07 OF GO. THEY THRIVE BECAUSE THEY ARE 22:09 HIDING BEHIND THE -- THE LEADERSHIP, YOU KNOW, POSITION 22:16 NOBODY WOULD EVER THINK AN ELLER WOULD GO HOME AND ABUSE HIS 22:21 WIFE, OR A WIFE WOULD GO HOME AND ABUSE HER HUSBAND. 22:25 THEY CAN GIVE THE BEST SERMON IN THE WORLD, AND THEN GO WALK OUT 22:35 OF THE CHURCH AND ABUSE THAT SAME SOUL. 22:41 >> SHE IS RIGHT IN CHURCH. >> OH, MAN -- 22:44 >> AN ELDER IN OUR CHURCH WAS ABUSIVE TO ALL OF THE WOMEN. 22:54 AND WHAT WAS THE REASON? BECAUSE HE HAD A CONTROLLING AND 23:00 ABUSIVE WIFE. >> HE DIDN'T HAVE ANY AUTHORITY 23:02 IN HIS HOME, AND HIS WIFE WOULD ABUSE HIM PUBLICLY. 23:06 SO HIS FRUSTRATIONS WERE TAKEN OUT ON OTHER WOMEN, BECAUSE HE 23:10 COULDN'T TELL HER HOW HE FELT. >> YEAH. 23:14 >> AND -- BUT IT WAS NOT JUST WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN HIS HOME, 23:17 BUT HE WAS BEING VERBALLY ABUSED PUBLICLY, SO ALL OF THIS 23:22 FRUSTRATION WAS COMING OUT IN HIS POSITION AS A LEADER. 23:26 >> YEAH. >> AND HE WAS JUST HATING ON 23:29 PEOPLE -- USING THAT POSITION OF AUTHORITY, AND SAYING WELL, 23:33 I'M -- AND THEY WOULD STATE THEIR POSITION -- AND SAY, WELL, 23:36 YOU LISTEN, BECAUSE I AM AN ELDER. 23:39 I'M THE DEACON, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT TO DO. 23:42 SO INSTEAD OF BEING MINISTERING -- WE ARE CALLED TO 23:48 MINISTRY, NOT TO DOMINATION. >> AND ABUSE. 23:52 >> AND CONTROL. AND USE THAT POWER AND AUTHORITY 23:56 TO OVERRIDE, AND, YOU KNOW, ONE THING I REALIZE AND UNDERSTAND 24:01 TOO IS THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE WILL STILL BE 24:06 HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR EVERYTHING THAT WE THINK AND DO, ESPECIALLY 24:09 IF IT IS OUTSIDE OF CHRIST. WE WILL STILL PAY FOR 24:13 EVERYTHING, EVEN IF IT'S GOO ORE BAD. 24:15 I TELL PEOPLE EVERY DAY WHEN YOU WAKE UP, THOSE SAME TWO ROADS 24:21 ARE FACING YOU EVER DAY. EVERY DAY YOU HAVE TO MAKE A 24:25 DECISION. AM I GOING TO BE A GIVER OR A 24:28 TAKER? AM I GOING TO FOLLOW CHRIST? 24:30 AM I GOING TO FOLLOW THE ENEMY. >> ERE DAY. 24:34 >> EVERY DAY THOSE SAME ROADS ARE THERE, AND YOU HAVE TO 24:37 CHOOSE EVERY DAY. >> EVERY DAY. 24:39 >> IT NEVER CHANGES. >> CHOOSE THIS DAY WHOM YOU WILL 24:45 SERVE. >> WHOM YOU WILL SERVE. 24:47 SO I LIKE THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EDUCATE 24:51 EVERYONE. WE HAVE A SUPPORT GROUP EVERY 24:54 WEDNESDAY FROM 6:30 TO 8:00 PM? ST. LOUIS. 24:58 SO IF YOU ARE OUT THERE, WE HAVE A SUPPORT EVERY WEDNESDAY NIGHT. 25:03 WE COME TOGETHER. WE HAVE BIBLE STUDY. 25:05 WE PRAY. WE GO OUT IN THE COMMUNITY. 25:09 I WANTED TO ACTUALLY SHARE MY T-SHIRT, I LEFT IT IN MY 25:14 ROOM -- >> WHAT DOES IT SAY? 25:16 >> IT TALKS ABOUT HARRISON'S REFERRAL SERVICES, AND THERE'S A 25:22 HEART. AND WE GO OUT AND WE DO MINISTRY 25:24 WORK TOGETHER. WE FEED THE HOMELESS. 25:27 WE GO OUT AND HELP PEOPLE. SOME OF THOSE LADIES THAT CAME 25:32 THROUGH HARRISON'S REFERRAL SERVICES, THEY ARE OVER IN MY 25:37 MINISTRIES. >> AMEN. 25:38 >> REALLY? >> NOW THEY ARE HEALING AND 25:41 HELPING OTHER PEOPLE IN THEIR BROKEN PLACES. 25:43 >> YES. SO NOW I HAVE THEM TO LEAD OUT 25:47 IN THE FOOD PANTRY -- WE HAVE NEW LADIES NOW, BUT MOST OF THE 25:53 LADIES I HAVE BEEN HELPING FOR YEARS, I HAVE THEM INVOLVED IN 26:00 THE MINISTRIES. YOU KNOW, THEY ARE INVOLVED, 26:03 BECAUSE IT CONTINUES TO HELP THEM GROW AND FEEL GOOD ABOUT 26:06 THEMSELVES, TO GET THEM BACK OUT INTO THE WORKFORCE. 26:09 WE MAKE SURE WHEN WE COME TOGETHER WE DO NATURE WALKS 26:14 TOGETHER. WE HAVE CAFE NIGHT TOGETHER, AND 26:18 BOWLING NIGHT TOGETHER. AND THE UPPER ROOM OF THE CHURCH 26:21 THAT WE'RE IN, THEY EVEN GAVE US A PRAY ROOM UPSTAIRS. 26:26 THEY GAVE ME A WAR ROOM FOR ME AND MY LADIES. 26:31 AND WE PRAY AND ASK GOD TO HELP US. 26:33 AND WE'RE GOING TO START A NEW BIBLE STUDY IN ST. LOUIS WITH 26:38 NEW LADIES AND THEIR FAMILIES THAT ARE COMING IN. 26:45 OUR GROUP IS MULTI-ETHNIC. SO WE JUST GOT -- I WOULD SAY 26:51 SEVEN SPANISH FAMILIES. AND THEIR CHILDREN ARE COMING. 26:55 I DO COOKING DEMONSTRATIONS. >> AND YOU DO INDCATERING. 27:07 >> I'M A CATERER ON THE SIDE. IF YOU ARE GETTING MARRIED. 27:16 >> I WILL TRAVEL TO DO THAT.-I'M ON FACEBOOK. HARRISON'S REFERRAL SERVICES IS 27:22 ALSO ON FACEBOOK AS WELL. I LOVE EVANGELISM. 27:26 I LOVE PREACHING AND TEACHING -- >> I CAN HEAR IT. 27:28 >> YES. >> I WAS TRAINED AS A BIBLE 27:31 WORKER FOR ABOUT TEN YEARS. I DO IN-HOME BIBLE STUDIES. 27:36 AND I'LL COME AND SIT WITH YOU. IF YOU WANT TO SIT OUT IN 27:45 NATURE, I'LL DO THAT. THAT'S WHAT I DO FULL-TIME IN 27:49 THE DAY. IN THENNING I'M WITH MY FAMILY. 27:55 WE HAVE A CONFERENCE CALL LINE. WE TALK ABOUT OUR UPCOMING 28:00 EVENTS WE GOT COMING UP THROUGH THE YEAR. 28:03 SOME OF THE LADIES ARE ACTUALLY VIGILANT HERE THIS WEEKEND TO 28:08 COME, SO WE CAN GET AWAY FROM THE CITY, TO RENEW THEIR MINES, 28:12 AND REFRESH THEIR MINDS. I WANT THEM TO GET AWAY FROM THE 28:17 CITY, JUST TO CONNECT WITH GOD SO WE CAN PRAY TOGETHER. 28:20 SO WHEN WE LEAVE THIS PLACE, WE KNOW WHAT GOD NEEDS US TO DO. 28:25 WE WANT TO BE OWN FIRE FOR GOD ALL THE TIME. 28:29 >> HOW IS THIS FINANCED? >> WELL, HONESTLY, WE NEED ALL 28:32 OF THE HELP WE CAN GET. I HAVE BEEN PRAYING. 28:37 I HAVE BEEN ON MY NEEDS EVERY DAY. 28:40 WE DON'T HAVE MONEY. I JUST TRY TO RAISE MONEY BY 28:45 SELLING BASKETS. AND I DO THE CATERING TO BUY 28:49 THINGS FOR THE MINISTRY, BUT IT'S A VERY HEAVY FINANCIAL 28:54 BURDEN, SO WE NEED ALL OF THE HELP WE CAN GET. 28:58 MY DREAM IS TO HAVE MY OWN BILLING. 29:01 I HAVE BEEN PRAYING AND ASKING GOD, AND HE SAYS CHILD BE STILL. 29:06 PLEASE STOP ASKING ME. I HEAR YOU. 29:09 BUT THAT IS MY DREAM SO I CAN HAVE MY OWN BUILDING AND HAVE 29:15 EVERYTHING IN JUST ONE LOCATION. I WISH I HAD A VAN OR A TRUCK OR 29:20 SOMETHING WHERE I CAN PICK THE LADIES UP. 29:24 SOMETIMES I LEAVE HOME A LITTLE EARLY TO GO GET OTHER WOMEN 29:28 BEFORE I TEACH THE CLASS JUST SO THEY CAN GET THERE. 29:31 AND SOMETIMES I HAVE 5 OR $6 IN MY POCKET AND GIVE IT TO SOMONE 29:36 AND SAY, HEY, CAN YOU PICK THIS SISTER UP. 29:39 SO THIS HAS BEEN FINANCED OUT OF MY OWN POCKET FOR YEARS. 29:49 YOU WON'T BELIEVE HOW GOD TOOK $25 AND STRETCHED IT. 29:53 >> I WOULD BELIEVE IT. BUT I WANT TO DIVE INTO SOME OF 29:58 THESE QUESTIONS. BUT WE ARE DEFINITELY GOING TO 30:01 REACH OUT TO THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING AND LISTENING TO THE 30:04 PROGRAM, BECAUSE I AM SITTING HERE -- I'M BEING BATHED -- YOU 30:07 KNOW, I'M A PASTOR. I HAVE A WONDERFUL MARRIAGE, BUT 30:12 I'M LEARNING THINGS TONIGHT. I'M LEARNING FROM A PERSON THAT 30:15 GOD HAS ANOINTED. THAT GOD HAS GIVEN UNDERSTANDING 30:19 TO. THAT GOD HAS GIVEN VISION 30:21 AND -- AND CONNECTION TO. WE CAN ALWAYS LEARN, BECAUSE NO 30:25 TWO PEOPLE ARE ALIKE. >> NO. 30:27 >> NO. >> AND FOR GOD TO GIVE YOU THIS 30:33 DEEP LOVE TO NOT JUST COME THROUGH YOUR OWN CHALLENGES, BUT 30:36 TO HELP PEOPLE COME THROUGH THEIRS, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT 30:39 YOU HAVE TO REALLY STEP OUT OF YOURSELF, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME 30:43 PEOPLE -- THERE IS A QUESTION IN THE BIBLE THAT THE LORD ASKED 30:48 THE MAN, HE SAID DO YOU WANT TO BE MADE WHOLE? 30:52 >> YES. >> AND WHEN THAT -- I WAS 30:54 HEARING THAT TONIGHT WHEN I WAS LISTENING TO YOUR TESTIMONY. 30:56 DO YOU WANT TO BE MADE WHOLE? THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT LIVE 31:01 THEIR WHOLE LIVES AND THEY LIVE IN THAT WAR STORY. 31:04 THEY HAVE NOT BE ABLE TO BE RESCUED FROM THEIR WAR STORIES. 31:11 THEY HAVE NOT GOTTEN PAST IT. THAT'S THEIR IDENTITY. 31:15 BUT THE LORD TOLD THEM, PICK UP YOUR BED AND GO HOME. 31:19 AND PEOPLE SAID IS THAT THE SOMETIME GUY THAT HAS BEEN BY 31:25 THE POOL ALL OF THOSE YEARS ] AND WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY IS 31:30 YOU HAVE MET PEOPLE BY THE POOL, YOU WERE BY THE POOL, BUT YOU 31:33 ARE NOT ANYMORE. THE LORD SAID DO YOU WANT TO BE 31:38 MADE WHOLE? AND YOU SAID YES. 31:39 AND HE BROUGHT YOU THROUGH THAT. AND THE PEOPLE WHO KNEW THAT 31:44 THEY ARE NOT THE PERSON THAT THEY ARE, WHERE THEY WERE, AND 31:48 NOW YOU ARE ABLE TO TAKE PEOPLE BY THEIR POOL. 31:50 >> AND IT'S SUCH A BLESSING, BECAUSE PEOPLE ASK ME, WELL, HOW 31:54 DO YOU SURVIVE? DO YOU GET PAID FOR THIS? 31:58 NO, FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS, IT -pHAS BEEN ALL VOLUNTEER. I USE MY OWN GAS, MY OWN 32:05 PERSONAL VEHICLES AT HOME. I THANK GOD FOR MY HUSBAND. 32:08 HE WORKS AND PAYS THE BILLS. BUT EVERYTHING IS OUT OF OUR OWN 32:12 POCKET. NOBODY IS HELPING US, AND WE 32:15 HAVE BEEN PRAYING FOR A FINANCIAL BLESSING -- I NEED 32:19 DIAPERS, TOILETRIES, PERSONAL ITEMS. 32:23 AND EVEN THOUGH IT IS JUST A FEW OF US, IF SOMEONE CAN'T PAY 32:28 THEIR LIGHT BILL OR GAS BILL, WE GET TOGETHER AND TRY TO HELP 32:36 EACH OTHER. >> YOU JUST DEAL WITH THESE 32:39 ISSUES AS THEY COME. >> DEAL WITH THEM AS THEY COME, 32:42 AND I SAY LORD, THIS PERSON NEEDS THIS OR THAT, AND I'LL 32:47 JUST COLLECT THINGS AND ASK CAN YOU DONATE SOMETHING? 32:51 AND GOD WILL SAY, I'M GOING TO TAKE CARE OF IT. 32:54 SO IF YOU ARE OUT THERE AND YOU ARE ABLE TO -- YOU KNOW, PLEASE, 32:59 PRAYER IS WHAT WE REALLY NEED. BUT IF YOU ARE OUT THERE, YOU 33:04 KNOW, AND YOU CAN HELP IN ANY KIND OF WAY, THERE'S MORE WOMEN 33:08 AND FAMILIES COMING IN EVERY WEEK, EVERY WEEK. 33:12 YOU KNOW, WE'RE NEVER WITHOUT SOMEONE TO HELP. 33:15 I GET DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CALLS ALL THROUGH THE NIGHT. 33:19 I HAVE A CASE RIGHT NOW THAT I'M DEALING WITH HERE. 33:22 WE HAVE CHANGED IDENTITIES. I TRY TO HELP MEN AND WOMEN GET 33:29 DO -- TO DIFFERENT CITIES AND 33:31 STATES. SOME OF THESE PEOPLE IDENTITIES 33:33 HAVE TO BE CHANGED. WE DON'T HAVE FUNDS FOR THAT. 33:36 AND I GO IN MY OWN POCKET -- I MIGHT HAVE 40 BUCKS IN MY POCKET 33:41 AND I'LL TAKE THAT, AND SAY, HERE, THIS CAN GO TOWARDS YOUR 33:49 TICKET, BECAUSE GOD WILL PROVIDE. 33:51 >> WOW. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT. 33:54 SOMEBODY LISTENING TO THE PROGRAM, YOU ARE SAYING, WOW, 33:58 THIS IS THE KIND OF PASSION THAT GOD HAS GIVEN ME. 34:01 I WANT TO REACH OUT AND CHANGE LIVES. 34:04 I DON'T HAVE THE GIFT THAT SISTER LIZZIE CHAMBWA HAS, BUT 34:09 WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT HOW YOU CAN GET INVOLVED IN A VERY 34:14 REAL WAY. FINANCIALLY, AS WELL WAS PRAYER. 34:20 WE HAD A QUESTION. >> WELL, THIS IS A FEW COMMENTS. 34:25 THIS IS FROM DEBRA, SHE SAYS, WOW, WHAT A RIVETING STORY, AND 34:34 AN EXCELLENT PROGRAM. ONE OF THE BEST AND RELEVANT 34:38 PROGRAMS THAT HAS BEEN ON 3ABN IN RECENT TIMES. 34:42 WHAT A MINISTRY. I WANT TO ENCOURAGE MS. LIZZIE 34:50 IN HER MINISTRY. THANK YOU, DEBBIE. 34:52 >> AMEN. THANK YOU. 34:54 THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> HERE IS ANOTHER ONE. 34:59 JUDY IN NORTH DAKOTA. SHE SAYS PRAYING FOR A MAJOR 35:02 BREAK THROUGH IN HER PERSONAL LIFE. 35:05 SHE WANTS TO GET MARRIED AND BE STABLE AGAIN FINANCIALLY, AND 35:10 THAT THE LORD WILL REMOVE THE DEVIL INFLUENCES IN AND ASH OUR 35:18 LIFE. >> WHAT ABOUT THAT? 35:20 THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE THESE INFLUENCES AROUND THEM. 35:27 SOMETIMES IT'S THEIR OWN ENVIRONMENT. 35:29 >> YEAH, AND THAT'S WHY WE TALK ABOUT THE SEVEN FACES OF ABUSE, 35:34 AND HOW YOU CAN BREAK FREE. THERE IS FREEDOM. 35:37 YOU CAN GET OUT. YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO TEACH THEM 35:40 AND SHOW THEM LOVE AND SUPPORT TO LET THEM KNOW THERE'S 35:45 AGENCIES, THERE'S PHONE NUMBERS, THE HOT LINE NUMBERS. 35:48 THERE'S RESOURCES. YOU CAN BREAK FREE FROM THIS 35:52 ABUSE. YOU JUST HAVE TO STAY STRONG AND 35:54 ASK GOD TO GIVE YOU THAT FIRST STEP. 35:56 IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO LEAVE, CALL US -- CALL ME. 36:00 I'LL TALK TO YOU. I'LL TELL YOU A SAFE WAY TO 36:06 LEAVE, THE BEST WAY TO LEAVE. WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO LOSE 36:10 THEIR LIFE. BUT THERE'S A WAY TO LEAVE, AND 36:13 THERE'S -- YOU KNOW, THERE'S FREEDOM FOR YOU TO LIVE THAT 36:16 LIFE THAT YOU REALLY WANT TO LIVE. 36:17 IF YOU STAY IN THAT ENVIRONMENT, IT'S JUST GOING TO BRING YOU 36:22 DOWN. I HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE COMMITTED 36:25 SUICIDE. I HAVE HAD CALLS COME IN FROM 36:27 DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE WORLD. THIS ONE LADY TOLD ME ONE TIME, 36:31 SHE SAYS, I'M WATCHING YOUR PROGRAM ON 3ABN. 36:35 SHE IS FROM THE ISLANDS, AND SHE SAID I HAD A BOTTLE -- SHE SAID 36:42 I HAD A SINAI PILL IN MY HAND, AND I WAS GETTING READY TO KILL 36:50 MYSELF, AND YOUR TESTIMONY POPPED UP ON 3ABN. 36:52 AND SHE SAID, I WAS GOING TO KILL MYSELF, BUT I SAW YOUR 36:57 PROGRAM ON 3ABN, AND -- >> WOW. 37:00 >> -- I DECIDED NOT TO DO IT. >> PRAISE GOD. 37:05 >> PRAISE GOD. >> AND SHE WAS INVOLVED IN NOT 37:07 ONLY THE ABUSE, BUT THE WITCHCRAFT AND THE DEMONIC 37:13 SPIRITS AND THE STRONG HOLD. SO SOME PEOPLE HAVE DEMONS. 37:17 IT'S A DEMONIC SPIRIT THAT IS CONTROLLING YOU, BUT GOD SAYS 37:21 YOU CAN BREAK FREE FROM IT. YOU HAVE TO MAKE THAT FIRST 37:25 STEP. >> THAT'S RIGHT. 37:26 >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> JUST TAKE THAT FIRST STEP. 37:29 STEP OUT ON FAITH. I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE I WAS GOING 37:35 OR WHAT WAS HAPPENING. I LEFT MY CHILDREN AT HOME 37:39 BECAUSE I KNEW THEY WOULD BE SAFE THERE. 37:41 I STILL WENT TO WORK EVERY DAY, I KEPT MONEY IN MY POCKET, BUT I 37:47 WAS WATCHING MY BACK EVERYWHERE I WENT. 37:50 SOMETIMES I WAS DRIVING IN TRAFFIC, AND I SAW MY ABUSER. 37:56 AND GOD SAID LOOK IN YOUR REARVIEW MIRROR. 38:01 AND HE CORNERED ME IN. AND THIS MAN -- HE WAS LOOKING 38:05 AT ME IN TRAFFIC, AND I WAS SO AFRAID -- I KNEW IT WAS GOD. 38:11 HE GAVE ME THIS NOD. I NODDED AT HIM, AND HE CUT IN 38:15 FRONT OF MY HUSBAND AT THE TIME, JUST SO I WOULD BACK OUT AND 38:20 LEAVE. I'LL NEVER FORGET THAT. 38:23 THAT MAN SAVED MY LIFE. AND I GET EMOTIONAL EVERY TIME I 38:27 THINK ABOUT IT, BUT THE LORD IS SO GOOD TO KNOW THAT I WAS ONCE 38:30 A VICTIM OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, BUT NOW I'M A SURVIVOR. 38:34 I'M FREE -- I' FREE TO PREACH. I'M FREE TO SHARE THE 38:38 TESTIMONIES OF GOD. I'M FREE TO TELL PEOPLE THAT YOU 38:40 CAN MAKE IT. I'M ALIVE. 38:44 I'M FREE. YES, I HAVE SCARS, BUT THAT'S 38:49 OKAY. I'M ALIVE. 38:52 I'M FREE. >> AMEN. 38:54 >> THAT'S BEAUTIFUL. THIS LADY SAYS -- SHE WAS RAISED 38:58 IN AN ABUSIVE HOME, AND HAS FOUR ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIPS THAT ARE 39:07 ABUSIVE. HOW CAN GOD FORGIVE HER, SHE 39:10 WANTS TO KNOW. HOW CAN GOT FORGIVE HER? 39:15 >> THAT'S UNUSUAL -- SHE MAY THINK IT'S HER. 39:20 >> WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. IT'S THAT MENTAL ABUSE. 39:24 SHE IS GOING THROUGH THAT GUILT SYNDROME. 39:27 >> YES. >> BECAUSE NOBODY -- THEE'S 39:29 NOTHING THAT ANYBODY CAN EVER DESERVE TO BE ABUSED. 39:33 A PERSON WILL ABUSE USE, BECAUSE THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH 39:36 THE ABUSER. I CALL IT REVERSE PSYCHOLOGY. 39:40 >> LOOK AT THIS CAMERA AND TELL THAT -- 39:43 >> TALK TO THE CAMERA. >> IF YOU ARE THERE AND 39:47 LISTENING, YOU CAN BREAK FREE. YOU CAN BE FREE. 39:50 YOU JUST HAVE TO TAKE THAT FIRST STEP. 39:53 STEP OUT ON FAITH AND BELIEVE. THAT'S HOW GOD LET ME KNOW THAT 40:01 I CAN BELIEVE. JUST HOLD ON TO GOD AND BELIEVE 40:05 THAT YOU CAN DO IT. GOD HAS ALREADY FORGIVEN YOU. 40:14 FORGIVE YOURSELF FIRST FOR ALLOWING YOURSELF TO STAY IN AN 40:17 ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP. FORGIVE YOURSELF FIRST AND THEN 40:21 IT WILL GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE FREE TO FORGIVE YOUR 40:26 ABUSER. THE ABUSER NEEDS HELP. 40:30 THOUGH PERSON IS SICK MENTALLY, PSYCHOLOGICAL. 40:35 AND THAT PERSON NEEDS HELP. THEY HAVE TO ALSO GET HELP TOO 40:40 AS WELL. YOU NEED TO GET THE HELP THAT 40:42 YOU NEED, BECAUSE YOU NEED TO HEAL. 40:45 AND THAT ABUSER HAS TO GET THE HELP IF THEY NEED TO HEAL. 40:49 AND I WANT TO MAKE A CLEAR POINT TOO -- ONE YOUNG LADY WAS SAYING 40:58 SOMETHING ABOUT SHE WANTS TO GET-MARRIED. SOMETIMES BEFORE WE GET MARRIED 41:02 YOU SEE THE ABUSE, AND WE'LL LOOK OVER THAT -- 41:05 >> ALL OF THE FLAGS. >> ALL OF THESE RED FLAGS ARE 41:10 THERE, AND WE'LL STILL GET MARRIED ANYWAY, THINKING THE 41:14 PERSON WILL CHANGE. IT WON'T BE DIFFERENT. 41:16 THE PERSON IS SHOWING YOU WHO THEY ARE NOW. 41:18 THAT IS THE RED FLAGS. THOSE ARE THOSE THINGS THAT GOD 41:23 WANTS YOU TO SEE, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE PERSON THAT GOD WANTS 41:27 YOU TO BE WITH. >> NO. 41:29 >> I BELIEVE WE JUST TAKE OUR TIME AND TRUST GOD. 41:33 ALLOW HIM TO PICK OUR SOULMATE FOR US, AND ALLOW HIM TO LEAD 41:39 US, THEN WE WILL HAVE WHAT GOD WANTS US TO HAVE. 41:44 THE BIBLE SAYS SEEK THREE FIRST THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN AND ALL OF 41:48 ITS RIGHTEOUSNESS, AND THEN ALL OTHER THINGS WILL BE ADDED. 41:53 AND THAT MEANS YOUR SPOUSE WILL BE ADDED TO YOU, YOUR JOB WILL 41:57 BE ADDED TO YOU, YOUR HEALTH WILL BE ADDED TO YOU, YOUR 42:02 FAMILY WILL BE ADDED TO YOU. A LOT OF TIMES WE WANT TO SEEK 42:05 THE THINGS OF THE WORLD FIRST AND PUT GOD LAST, BUT THEN WHEN 42:10 WE GO THROUGH THE TRIALS AND TRIBULATIONS, THEN WE WANT TO 42:18 SEE GOD IN THE MIDST OF OUR AGONY. 42:22 BUT GOD SAYS SEEK THE KINGDOM FIRST, AND THEN LOOK FOR THAT 42:33 SPOUSE. >> THERE IS A POINT, IF YOU SEE 42:37 THE RED FLAGS, DON'T IGNORE THEM. 42:40 >> THEY ARE RED FOR A PERSON. >> AND THE OTHER THING IS DON'T 42:44 THINK YOU CAN CHANGE THAT PERSON. 42:46 AND DON'T THINK BY MARRYING OR GETTING INTO THAT RELATIONSHIP, 42:49 YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT. 42:53 SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE ENTERED RELATIONSHIPS AND TAKEN ON THE 42:57 ROLE OF A COUNSELOR. I CAN FIX HIM OR HER. 43:01 AND INSTEAD OF FIXING THAT PERSON, THEY GOT BROKEN. 43:06 >> YES. >> YOU CAN'T FIX SOMEBODY. 43:09 >> NO. >> THE LORD IS THE ONLY ONE THAT 43:11 CAN DO THAT. >> IT'S BECAUSE WE LOVE THE 43:14 PERSON. WE WANT THE BEST FOR THEM. 43:16 WE WANT TO BE WITH THEM. WE WANT TO SPEND OUR LIFE WITH 43:20 THEM, SO WE THINK, MAYBE I CAN FIX IT. 43:24 BUT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE BROKEN PEOPLE TOO. 43:27 >> EXACTLY. >> HOW WITH YOU FIX SOMEBODY 43:30 THAT IS BROKEN WHEN YOU ARE BROKEN. 43:32 >> GOOD POINT. >> THAT'S A HOME RUN RIGHT 43:35 THERE. >> HOW CAN YOU LEAD SOMEONE TO 43:37 CHRIST WHEN YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO BE LEAD. 43:40 I BELIEVE -- >> SAY THAT AGAIN -- HOW CAN YOU 43:44 LEAD SOMEONE TO BE IN CHRIST WHEN YOU ARE NOT IN CHRIST. 43:47 >> YOU CAN'T. >> YOU CAN'T. 43:49 THERE'S NO POSSIBLE WAY. THE ONLY WAY WE CAN BE THE 43:54 VESSELS THAT GOD WANTS US TO BE IS WE HAVE TO LET GOD CONTROL. 44:00 MY PRAYER EVERY DAY IS GOD, I KNOW I'M HUMAN. 44:04 YOU KNOW ME MORE THAN I KNOW MYSELF. 44:08 YOU KNOW HOW ANXIOUS I GET. I WANT TO BE WHERE YOU ARE. 44:12 I CAN NEVER GO WRONG IF I'M WHERE GOD WANTS ME TO BE. 44:16 AND THAT HAS BEEN MY PRAYER. THIS IS ABOUT YOU, GOD. 44:22 THIS PROGRAM IS NOT ABOUT ME. IT'S ABOUT GOD. 44:26 IT'S ABOUT DRAWING PEOPLE TO -- YOU KNOW, TO THE HEALER OF 44:30 WHATEVER YOU ARE GOING THROUGH. GOD IS THE HEALER FOR EVERY 44:35 AILMENT IN OUR LIFE, INCLUDING ABUSE. 44:38 >> WOW. YOU ARE GOING TO READ THIS 44:39 QUESTION AND THEN I WANT TO SHARE SOMETHING. 44:41 >> YOU SURE? >> YEAH. 44:43 >> OKAY. THIS PERSON -- DO NOT MENTION MY 44:48 NAME THEY SAID, MY HUSBAND HAS LEFT MARRIAGE, BUT HASN'T MOVED 44:53 OUT OF THE HOUSE, BECAUSE IT'S NOT CONVENIENT FOR HIM YET. 44:57 I'M TRYING TO BE PATIENT AND HEAR GOD'S GUIDANCE. 45:02 PSYCHOLOGICAL ABUSE IS WHAT HURTS THE MOST IN THIS 45:05 SITUATION. WHAT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND? 45:07 AND SHE SAID GOD BLESS YOU FOR YOUR POWERFUL MINISTRY. 45:13 >> I WOULD RECOMMEND, FIRST OF ALL TO CONTINUE TO PRAY. 45:18 AND IF THE SITUATION IS SO UNBEARABLE WHERE IT'S GOING TO 45:22 CAUSE YOU TO BUILD UP HATE IN YOUR HEART, SOMETIMES IT'S BEST 45:27 THAT YOU LEAVE. THE ABUSER LIKES THE CONTROL. 45:30 YES, I'M LETTING YOU KNOW I'M LEAVING.-I'M LETTING YOU KNOW I DON'T 45:36 WANT TO BE WITH YOU ANYMORE. BUT I'M NOT GOING TO GO ANYWHERE 45:39 UNTIL I FEEL LIKE LEAVING. ELSE THAT STILL A FRM OF 45:43 CONTROL OF ABUSE. SO SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO TAKE 45:45 THE INITIATIVE AND SAY IF THIS PERSON IS NOT GOING TO LEAVE, I 45:50 NEED MY PEACE, THEN IT'S BEST THAT YOU LEAVE THE ENVIRONMENT. 45:55 >> THAT'S VERY INSIGHTFUL. AND YOU WERE THERE, SO YOU KNOW. 45:59 ONE PERSON SAYS I'M NOT LEAVING UNTIL I'M READY TO LEAVE. 46:03 THEY DON'T WANT YOU, BUT THEY ARE STILL GOING TO CONTROL YOUR 46:07 SPACE. >> YES. 46:07 >> THAT'S DEEP. >> I EXPERIENCED THAT AS WELL. 46:11 I HAD TO LEARN THAT A WELL. AND I SAID, GOD, I DON'T WANT TO 46:14 BE ANGRY. I DON'T WANT TO BE UNFORGIVING. 46:18 I DON'T WANT TO HOLD HATRED IN MY HEART, BECAUSE THAT SEPARATES 46:23 ME FROM YOU. THIS SITUATION IS KEEPING ME 46:25 AWAY FROM YOU. IT'S DESTROYING MY RELATIONSHIP 46:28 WITH YOU, WHICH IS THE ULTIMATE RELATIONSHIP THAT WE CAN EVER 46:33 HAVE. WE CAN BE MARRIED AND HAVE 46:35 RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR FAMILY, OUR SPOUSES, BUT THE ULTIMATE 46:40 RELATIONSHIP IS A RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD. 46:42 AND IF THIS RELATIONSHIP IS CAUSING YOU TO BE DEPRESSED, SO 46:49 STRIP YOU OF YOUR IDENTITY, TO TAKE YOU FROM WHO YOU ARE AS 46:55 PERSON, AND CAUSE YOU TO BE BITTER OR ANGRY, AND IT MIGHT 46:59 LEAD YOU TO BE VIOLENT. I WOULD SUGGEST YOU LEAVE THE 47:02 ENVIRONMENT. ALLOW THE ABUSER TO MAINTAIN THE 47:05 HOME. YOU LEAVE THE ATMOSPHERE. 47:07 >> BECAUSE YOU CHOSE TO DO THAT. YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT. 47:11 YOU LEFT AND WENT IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF YOUR COMMUNITY. 47:14 >> BECAUSE AS LONG AS I WAS THERE, HE WASN'T GOING TO LEAVE. 47:18 I WORKED TWO JOBS AT THE TIME -- >> WOW. 47:23 >> AND, YOU KNOW, AT THE TIME I MADE MORE MONEY, BUT HE STILL 47:29 HAD THAT CONTROL, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE HE WAS THE HEAD OF THE 47:31 HOME -- HE WAS THE HEAD OF THE HOUSEHOLD, AND I JUST FELT LIKE 47:35 IF I SEPARATED FROM HIM -- EVEN THOUGH I WAS GOING THROUGH THE 47:39 ABUSE, I FELT LIKE, HOW AM I GOING TO TAKE CARE OF MY 47:44 CHILDREN AND MAINTAIN THE BILLS, AND THAT'S WHAT MADE ME STAY SO 47:49 LONG. BUT ONCE I WAS OUTSIDE OF THE 47:51 HOME, AND WAS ABLE TO SPEND TIME WITH GOD, AND UNDERSTAND YOU 47:55 HAVE TO DO THIS. YOU HAVE TO BE STRONG. 47:58 AND WHEN I REALIZED THAT I CAN TAKE CARE OF MY CHILDREN ON MY 48:03 OWN, I REALIZED, I COULD MAINTAIN, I FELT BETTER FREE 48:09 FROM MY ABUSER IN AN ABUSER-FREE HOME -- ABUSIVE-FREE HOME, 48:15 INSTEAD OF BEING IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH MY ABUSER, 48:20 WORRYING ABOUT HOW THE BILLS WAS GOING TO GET PAID. 48:23 I WOULD RATHER BE HOMELESS ON THE STREETS, FREE. 48:27 >> I LIKE THAT. >> THAT'S RIGHT. 48:29 >> THAN TO B IN A HOME WHERE THE BILLS ARE PAID, AND YOU 48:32 MIGHT HAVE A LOT OF MONEY -- >> BUT YOU ARE IN PRISON. 48:36 >> EXACTLY. A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK ABUSE IS 48:39 JUST IN LOW-POVERTY AREAS, YOU KNOW -- 48:47 >> SOCIOECONOMIC -- >> EXACTLY.-BUT ABUSERS CAN BE EVERYWHERE. 48:53 YOU CAN HAVE ALL OF THE MONEY IN THE WORLD, THE YACHTS AND 48:57 EVERYTHING, IT DOESN'T MATTER, YOU ARE STILL -- YOU KNOW, AT A 49:02 POINT WHERE YOU CANSTILL BE ABUSED. 49:04 AND I LIKE TO DRAW A POINT HERE REALLY QUICKLY IS THIS IS NOT 49:09 JUST ABOUT IF YOU ARE AMERICAN. THIS ABUSE IS ALL OVER THE 49:14 WORLD. >> WORLD WIDE. 49:15 >> THERE IS WOMEN AND MEN FROM EVERY COUNTY, EVERY NATIONALITY, 49:20 IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE YOU LIVE, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE 49:23 HAS -- DOES NOT HAVE A FACE -- IT HAS A FACE, BUT AT 49:28 THE SAME TIME, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE -- I WANT TO REACH 49:32 OUT TO MY SISTER AND BROTHERS FROM OTHER COUNTRIES TO LET YOU 49:37 KNOW THAT HARRISON'S REFERRAL SERVICES -- WE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE 49:39 TO REACH YOU, BUT WE'RE PRAYING FOR YOU. 49:42 YOU CAN CALL US, AND WE CAN PRAY WITH YOU, BUT FINE SOMEONE IN 49:48 YOUR COUNTRY THAT CAN HELP YOU. FIND A PLACE A PLACE OF SAFETY. 49:54 WE CALL IT THE ARC OF SAFETY, FIND A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT YOU 49:59 CAN CONNECT WITH. I WISH I COULD HAVE THE FINANCES 50:04 TO DO IT. I WISH I COULD TAKE THIS 50:08 MINISTRY ALL AROUND THE WORLD -- I WISH I COULD GET INTO 50:13 CHURCHES. IF YOU ARE OUT THERE, I'M A 50:15 KEYNOTE SPEAKER, A MOTIVATIONAL SPEAKER. 50:18 I WANT TO REACH OUT TO OUR YOUNG PEOPLE AT THE AGE OF DATING, 50:24 CONTEMPLATING DATING, HIGH SCHOOL, COLLEGE, WE NEED TO 50:27 EDUCATE OUR YOUNG PEOPLE. >> YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT. 50:31 THERE ARE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT WE ARE GOING TO -- THAT -- LIZZIE 50:35 CHAMBWA -- SHE SAYS ONE OF HER DESIRES IN THE FUTURE IS TO TALK 50:39 TO YOUNG GIRLS AND BOYS BEFORE THEY BECOME THE ABUSER OR THE 50:43 ABUSED. EDUCATE THEM. 50:44 >> EXACTLY. >> I WANT TO TAKE THE TIME WE 50:47 HAVE HERE, AND MAKE SURE THAT I GOT ALL SEVEN. 50:52 VERBAL, MENTAL, PSYCHOLOGICAL, PHYSICAL ABUSE, SPIRITUAL ABUSE. 51:02 DID I MISS ONE? >> EMOTIONAL. 51:07 >> OKAY. I COULD TELL FROM MY OWN SENSE 51:10 OF WHAT GOD IS DOING IN YOUR LIFE, THERE ARE THOSE OF YOU 51:14 WATCHING THE PROGRAM THAT SAY, WELL, I KNOW OF SOMEONE. 51:17 I MAY BE THAT PERSON. >> IT'S RUE. 51:19 >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, BUT WE WANT TO GIVE YOU INFORMATION 51:22 IN JUST A MOMENT HERE, ON HOW YOU CAN GET IN TOUCH WITH 51:28 HARRISON'S REFERRAL SERVICES. AND ALSO HOW TO GET IN TOUCH 51:30 WITH LIZZIE CHAMBWA, BECAUSE AS -SHE HAS MENTIONED, SHE HAS BEEN INVITED PLACES TO TALK TO 51:36 GROUPS, AND HOW MANY YEARS NOW THE MINISTRY HAS BEEN -- 51:39 >> ABOUT 15 YEARS. >> 15 YEARS. 51:42 >> PROVIDENTIAL, NOT COINCIDENTAL. 51:51 AND YOU HAVE -- >> YEAH, OUR SEVENTH-DAY 51:54 ADVENTIST CHURCH, IT IS CALLED END IT NOW, SAY NO TO VIOLENCE. 51:58 IT'S AN INITIATIVE TO STOP VIOLENT. 52:02 >> ON THEIR PAGE THEY HAVE NOT ONLY A PICTURE OF A WOMAN, BUT A 52:06 PICTURE OF A MAN, AND A CHILD. >> THERE'S CHILD ABUSE.-THERE'S ELDERLY ABUSE. 52:11 THERE ARE SO MANY TYPES. >> AND EVEN THOUGH WE TALKED 52:14 ABOUT THE SEVEN FACES, THERE IS MORE. 52:16 THE ELDER ABUSE AS WELL. AND PEOPLE UNDERSTAND -- WE HAVE 52:21 A BANQUET EVERY YEAR. IT'S CALLED HARRISON'S REFERRAL 52:25 SERVICES VICTORY BANQUET. >> WHEN IS THAT? 52:27 >> IT'S GOING TO BE IN AUGUST. IF YOU WANT TO COME TO ST. LOUIS 52:31 AND BE A PART OF IT, YOU CAN CALL ME AND GET IN CONTACT WITH 52:37 ME. BUT IT'S OUR TENTH YEAR, AND 52:39 IT'S AN ELEGANT EVENT. THE FLOORS OPEN THE WHOLE NIGHT 52:45 FOR TESTIMONIES, SO YOU CAN JUST COME UP AND SHARE WHAT GOD HAS 52:50 BROUGHT YOU THROUGH -- >> WE MISSED THE LAST ONE, BUT I 52:53 DON'T WANT TO MISS THE NEXT ONE. >> YES. 52:55 THERE WILL BE TICKETS THAT WILL BE SOLD, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO 52:59 RAISE FUNDS. THIS IS A WAY I CAN HELP RAISE 53:03 MONEY SO I CAN CONTINUE TO HELP GIVE THE LADIES WHAT THEY 53:07 NEED -- AND GET SUPPLIES AND EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED. 53:11 SO IF YOU ARE OUT THERE AND WOULD LIKE TO DONATE TO OUR 53:15 MINISTRY, OR AT TEN OUR VICTORY BAN 53:24 BANQUET. >> ST. LOUIS COOING. 53:25 >> YES. AND YOU ARE GOING TO TASTE THE 53:28 CATERING FOOD, BECAUSE I DO ALL OF THE CATERING. 53:31 IF YOU ARE VEGAN OR VEGETARIAN, THAT'S THE MEAL YOU ARE GOING TO 53:35 GET. BUT WE HAVE A WONDERFUL TIME. 53:39 IT'S AWESOME. AND IT GIVES ALL HONOR AND GLORY 53:44 TO GOD ABOUT WHAT HE HAS BROUGHT YOU THROUGH. 53:46 AND I JUST WANT TO THANK GOD, AND YOU GUYS FOR LISTENING. 53:52 THOSE WHO WANT TO BE EDUCATED, EVEN IF YOU ARE NOT ABUSE OR 53:56 HAVE NEVER BEEN ABUSED, THIS IS A GOOD WAY OF GETTING EDUCATED 54:02 ON HOW YOU CAN HELP SOMEONE IN YOUR FAMILY THAT MIGHT BE GOING 54:07 THROUGH ABUSE. >> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN TELL, 54:10 BUT THIS WOMAN IS ON FIRE. NOT HER OWN FIRE, BUT THE LORD 54:16 HAS IGNITED A FLAME IN HER LIFE. AND SOME OF THE REASON THE LORD 54:23 ALLOWS US TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THE THINGS WE HAVE GONE THROUGH 54:27 IS TO EQUIP US. IF YOU ARE LISTENING AND 54:30 WATCHING THE PROGRAM, YOU HEARD LIZZIE CHAMBWA TALK ABOUT THE 54:35 ENABLING OF THIS MINISTRY. THIS MINISTRY, HARRISON'S 54:37 REFERRAL SERVICES IS A MINISTRY THAT COULD DO BETTER IF I HAD 54:41 MORE RESOURCES. AND I HAVE HAD TO KIND OF PULL 54:45 THAT OUT OF HER -- SHE IS SO HUMBLE. 54:48 >> I KNOW. >> BUT SHE IS SKIMPING HERE AND 54:52 THERE. IF THE LORD HAS IMPRESSED YOU AT 54:55 ALL, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO BRING THAT INFORMATION UP ON THE 54:58 SCREEN, SO WE CAN SHOW THE WEBSITE. 55:03 HARRISONSREFERRALSERVICES.COM. THAT WEBSITE IS GOING TO BE 55:06 ACTIVE IN ABOUT A WEEK. CHECK THAT OUT. 55:09 AND ALSO A PHONE NUMER -- WELL, YOU CAN CONTACT US HERE AT 3ABN 55:15 TO FIND OUT. THE PHONE NUMBER IS 55:29 314-482-2594. AND IT MAY IMPRESS YOU TO 55:32 PROVIDE A VAN OR A TRUCK -- >> TO PICK UP THE LADIES. 55:35 >> AND A BUILDING.-p>> A BUILDING. SHE TALKED ABOUT HOW WONDERFUL 55:41 AND POWERFUL WOULD IT BE TO HAVE HARRISON'S REFERRAL SERVICES BE 55:48 RUN OUT OF A BUILDING. SO IF THE LORD IS SPEAKING TO 55:52 YOU TONIGHT. THE INFORMATION -- IF YOU MISSED 55:56 IT, WE CAN GET IT TO YOU IF YOU CONTACT 3ABN. 56:00 AND YOU TALKED ABOUT MATTHEW 28, GO AND TEACH ALL NATIONS, BUT I 56:04 BELIEVE THE ONE THAT STICKS IN MY MIND RIGHT NOW, HONEY IS WHEN 56:08 I WAS HUNGRY, WHEN I WAS ABUSED, WHEN WAS I ON STREETS, WHEN I 56:19 WAS BROKEN DOWN, AND DID YOU HELP ME OUT? 56:23 THE LORD BROUGHT SISTER LIZZIE CHAMBWA FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS. 56:31 AND WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR COMING TO BE AT 3ABN. 56:36 HONEY, OUR TIME WENT BY SO AMAZINGLY FAST. 56:39 >> YEAH, AND ABUSE IS AWFUL. IT'S NOT FROM GOD. 56:42 IT'S A FROM THE ENEMY. AND AS OUR CHURCH SAYS, WE WANT 56:45 TO END IT NOW. AND IT IS WORLDWIDE. 56:48 SO LIZZIE, YOU HAVE BEEN A BLESSING TO US ON 3ABN RADIO. 56:52 >> THANK YOU. >> AS WELL AS HERE AT 3ABN. 56:56 >> AND FRIENDS, OUR TIME HAS COME AND GONE SO AMAZINGLY FAST. 57:01 I CAN'T BELIEVE IT. BUT UNTIL WE SEE YOU AGAIN MAY 57:04 THE LORD'S BLESSINGS BE ON YOU AND ON YOUR FAMILY, AND ON YOUR 57:10 MARRIAGE. GOD BLESS YOU UNTIL WE SEE YOU 57:12 AGAIN. ♪ |
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