>>> WELCOME BACK TO THE
SECOND HOUR OF THE PROGRM.
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IF YOU WATCHED THE FIRST HOUR,
YOU WERE PROBABLY SAYING, GET TO
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THE TOPIC. [ LAUGHTER ]
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>> WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE LIZZIE
CHAMBWA WHO IS THE FOUNDER OF
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HARRISON'S REFERRAL SERVICES,
AND HAS SUCH A MINISTRY IN ST.
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LOUIS, MISSOURI. IF
YOU WERE PART OF THE FIRST
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HOUR, YOU SAW THE
15-MINUTE VIDEO, WHICH WAS VERY
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INFORMATIVE. >> AND
AS LIZZIE SAID, THEY ARE
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LIKE FAMILY TO HER. THEY GO OUT.
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AND, YOU KNOW, SHE HAS A
RELATIONSHIP WITH THOSE LADIES.
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IT'S MORE THAN
JUST AN ACQUAINTANCE.
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IT'S A RELATIONSHIP. >>
AND THEN -- AND THEN ALSO,
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THE SEVEN FACES OF ABUSE,
WE TALKED ABOUT JUST ONE, AND I
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DON'T KNOW -- WE'RE GOING
TO DRIVE RIGHT BACK INTO THE
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PROGRAM, RATHER THAN GOING TO
MUSIC, BECAUSE WE FEEL THAT WHAT
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GOD HAS OPENED THE DOOR
FOR YOU TO SAY IS OF SUCH GREAT
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IMPORTANCE, BUT IF ANYTHING
WE TALK ABOUT IN THE SECOND HOUR
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OPENS THE DOOR FOR YOU, YOU CAN
CALL 618-627-4651, OR YOU CAN
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SEND THOSE, I BELIEVE TO
-pABN.TV. YOU SAID IT EFFECTS
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THE WHOLE HOME STRUCTURE?
>> YES, BECAUSE IF THERE ARE
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CHILDREN INVOLVED IN THE HOME,
IT'S NOT ONLY THE ADULT THAT
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ENDURES THE ABUSE, IT
GOES DOWN TO THE CHILDREN.
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AND WHEN THE CHILDREN ENDURE IT,
IT'S A LOT MORE HARD -- THERE'S
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A LOT MORE CHILDREN COMMITTING
SUICIDE BECAUSE OF THE BULLYING
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AT SCHOOL. A LOT OF
TIMES WE WONDER -- WOW,
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IT TOOK THAT MUCH AT SCHOOL FOR
A CHILD TO DO THAT, BUT A LOT OF
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TIMES, WE DON'T UNDERSTAND THE
BULLYING IS NOT JUST AT SCHOOL,
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IT'S AT HOME. THEY
ARE GETTING IT AT BOTH
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ENDS. AND YOU CAN
ONLY ENDURE SO MUCH,
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UNTIL YOU START TO BELIEVE
WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING TO YOU.
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YOU START TO BELIEVE WHAT
THE ABUSER SAYS ABOUT YOU.
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AND IT TAKES ON A
WHOLE PERSONALITY.
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A LOT OF PEOPLE TALK
ABOUT IDENTITY THEM, I BELIEVE
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DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS A
FORM OF IDENTITY THEFT.
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>> WOW. >> THAT'S TRUE.
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>> YOU LOSE WHO YOU
ARE. >> YOU LOSE WHO YOU ARE.
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>> IT STEALS YOU
AWAY FROM YOURSELF.
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>> AND THE BULLYING IS TERRIBLE.
AND THE ADULT BULLYING, WE
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SHOULD NOT CALL EACH OTHER
NAMES AND PUT EACH OTHER DOWN.
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>> AMEN. >> WE ARE
GOD'S PEOPLE, WE ARE
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THE TEMPLE OF GOD, AND WHEN
YOU ABUSE GOD'S TEMPLE, IT'S NOT
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RIGHT, IT IS? >> AND
IF YOU GREW UP IN A HOME
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WITH VERBAL ABUSE, AND I'M SURE
SOME OF OUR LISTENERS MAY HAVE
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BEEN IN HOMES LIKE THAT, ARE
IN HOMES LIKE THAT NOW, AND WHEN
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YOU GROW UP, YOU SOMETIMES FIND
YOURSELF BENG VERBALLY ABUSIVE,
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BECAUSE THAT'S ALL YOU KNOW.
NOBODY EVER SPOKE ANY ENERGY
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INTO YOU. IT HAS
ALWAYS BEEN REJECTION AND
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ANGER, AND, YOU KNOW, MISERY.
HOW CAN YOU GIVE SOMEBODY
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SOMETHING YOU NEVER HAD. >>
LIKE THAT SAYING, STICKS AND
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STONES MAY BREAK MY BONES,
BUT WORDS WILL NEVER HURT ME.
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>> BUT IT REALLY DOES HURT.
I THINK EVEN AS PEOPLE -- EVEN
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AS CHRISTIAN OR NON-CHRISTIANS,
WE HAVE TO BE REALLY CAREFUL HOW
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WE TREAT PEOPLE. TAKE
TIME TO BE PRAYERFUL ABOUT
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THE THINGS THAT YOU SAY, EVEN
WHEN YOU ARE SAYING, I DON'T
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LOVE. AND I HAD TO LEARN THAT
TOO, -BECAUSE GOING THROUGH AN
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ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP, I HAD
TO FIND OUT WHEN I WOULD ADDRESS
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AND SPEAK TO PEOPLE, THAT
WHAT I'M SAYING IS OUT OF LOVE.
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NOW I MAKE SURE I'M VERY
PRAYERFUL ABOUT -- GOD, YOU TELL
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ME WHAT TO SAY. THEY
SHOULD BE SEASONED WIH
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YOUR LOVE AND GRACE, BECAUSE IF
I DO IT OUT OF MY OWN WILL, IT
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MIGHT NOT COME OUT THE
WAY THE PERSON RECEIVES IT.
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AND WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL.
>> THE BIBLE SAYS YOU HAVE DONE
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IT UNTO THE LEAST OF
THE, YOU HAVE DONE IT UNTO ME.
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>> WHEN YOU ABUSE PEOPLE, YOU
ARE IN ESSENCE -- THE LORD IS
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RECEIVING THAT SAME ABUSE,
BECAUSE WE ARE HIS CHILDREN.
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I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER TEXT
THAT SAYS IT'S A BETTER THAT A
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MILL STONE BE PUT AROUND YOUR
NECK AND YOU BE CAST INTO THE
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SEA THAN TO
OFFEND THESE LITTLE ONES.
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AND YOU WERE
LOOKING UP TECHNOLOGY ABUSE.
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>> YEAH. >> THEY
ARE GETTING THESE
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ABUSIVE MESSAGES
THROUGH THEIR TEXTS.
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>> IT IS SO TRUE, AND THAT'S WHY
FAMILIES NEED TO SPEND MORE TIME
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TOGETHER. WE DON'T
EAT DINNER TOGETHER.
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WE DON'T ASK HOW WAS YOUR DAY IN
WE DON'T GO TO WALKS TOGETHER.
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AND I FIND MY SON TUGS AT ME,
AND I HAVE TO TELL MYSELF YOU
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HAVE TO PUT THE
TABLET DOWN. >> YES.
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>> JUST TO GIVE HIM THAT TIME
THAT HE NEEDS, EVEN THOUGH I
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KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT TO HIM,
I HAVE TO MAKE SURE I GIVE HIM
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THAT TIME HE NEEDS, AND HE FEELS
REALLY GOOD ABOUT IT WHEN I POUR
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MY ENERGY INTO HIM, BECAUSE
I SPEND MOST OF MY TIME IN THE
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COMMUNITY WITH OTHER PEOPLE, BUT
WHEN I'M AT HOME I SPEND TIME
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WITH MY HUSBAND, THINK
CHILDREN, MY GRANDCHILDREN.
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I STILL GO OUT ON
DATES WITH MY SON.
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HE IS 19 YEARS OLD.
WE HANG OUT TOGETHER.
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HE LOVES HIS MOMMA. HE
TELLS ME HOW MUCH HE MISSES
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MY FOOD. BUT I
SPEND TIME WITH EACH ONE
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OF MY CHILDREN AND MY
GRANDCHILDREN, AND I SPEND TIME
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WITH EVERY INDIVIDUAL PERSON.
>> THAT'S POWER -- THAT'S
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EMPOWERING. >> IT IS.
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>> I WAS THINKING HOW AM I GOING
TO GET SOMETHING POSITIVE OUT OF
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BULLYING AND VERBAL ABUSE,
AND YOU ARE SHOWING THE OPPOSITE
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SIDE OF IT. I'M
LEARNING AS YOU TALK,
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BECAUSE WE ALL -- WE ARE SHAPED
BY THE HOME WE ARE RAISED IN.
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I WAS ABANDONED AT 3 MONTHS OLD,
AND WAS RAISED BY AN ADVENTIST
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WOMAN. AND HER HUSBAND WAS NOT A
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CHRISTIAN, BUT HE WAS LOUD.
BUT THEN YOU HAVE THE OTHER SIDE
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OF -- THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT
WHERE SOME PEOPLE HAVE HOMES
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WHERE THEIR CHILDREN ARE ALWAYS
IN ADULTS BUSINESS, AND THEY
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GROW UP WITH DISRESPECT, SO
YOU ARE FINDING A WAY TO BALANCE
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THAT. I LOVE THAT.
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SHOW YOUR SON AT
19, HE LOVES HIS MOM.
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TAKE TIME FOR YOUR
SON, PUT THE TABLET DOWN.
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>> [ INAUDIBLE ]
MY LOVE CUP IS EMPTY.
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[ LAUGHTER ] >> AND
I'M LISTENING TO YOU, AND
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A LOT OF YOUR PARALLELS
PARALLEL THE LIFE OF A PASTOR.
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>> YES. >> BE IN
MINISTRY, POURING
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YOURSELF OUT ON PEOPLE,
AND I KNOW THAT, BECAUSE MY
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WIFE -- SOMETIMES SHE
SAYS MY LOVE CUP IS EMPTY.
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SO WE HAVE A NIGHT -- WE --
WE SECURE THAT NIGHT FOR US.
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IT'S USUALLY THURSDAY
NIGHT, BUT WE'RE TOGETHER.
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>> WE'RE
TOGETHER. SO THAT'S OKAY.
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>> AMEN. >> BUT WE
ALSO MAKE SURE WE GO
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OUT TOGETHER, WE
GO SHOPPING TOGETHER.
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>> WE HAVE DINNER TOGETHER.
>> WE ALWAYS EAT DINNER TOGETHER
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EVERY NIGHT. >> THAT
IS A BEAUTIFUL THING,
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AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ENCOURAGE
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THAT -- IN FAMILY LIFE MINISTRY,
ENCOURAGE THAT IN MINISTRY,
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FAMILY, FAMILY IS THE
KEY. THAT'S WHAT EVERYTHING WAS
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FOUNDED UPON. WHEN
GOD, YOU KNOW, CREATED ADAM
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AND EVE HE HAD THEM COME
TOGETHER TO MAKE A FAMILY.
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HE SAID BE
FRUITFUL AND MULTIPLY.
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IT WAS JUST ABOUT THE HUSBAND
AND THE WIFE, THEN THE WORLD
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WOULD BE BORING. BUT
GOD GAVE US CHILDREN.
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HE WANTED US TO RAISE THEM
UP AND TO NOURISH THEM SO WE CAN
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GIVE OUR CHILDREN THE
SAME LOVE THAT GOD GIVES US.
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>> THAT'S RIGHT. >>
WHEN GOD LOVES ON US, WE CAN
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LOVE ON YOUR CHILDREN, SO IF WE
DON'T SPEND TIME WITH GOD, HOW
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ARE WE GOING TO
LOVE OUR CHILDREN?
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WE WOULDN'T KNOW
HOW TO TREAT THEM?
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HOW TO LOVE THEM. WE
HAVE TO FIRST BECOME THOSE
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PEOPLE IN ORDER FOR US TO BE
ABLE TO RAISE OUR CHILDREN TO
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BECOME THE PEOPLE
THAT GOD WANTS THEM TO BE.
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WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR
LIVES. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
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>> AND THAT'S WHEN WE
TALK ABOUT MENTAL ABUSE --
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>> THE SEC ONE IS MENTAL ABUSE.
>> YEAH, THE MENTAL ABUSE IS
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WHEN A PERSON TRIES TO MAKE YOU
FEEL LIKE YOU ARE CRAZY, OR YOU
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DON'T KNOW WHAT
YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
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OR YOU NEED HELP. YOU
NEED TO SEE A DOCTOR, YOU
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KNOW, BUT IT ALL TIES IN WITH
THE PSYCHOLOGICAL PART OF ABUSE
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AS WELL. I KNOW
I'M JUMPING THE GUN A
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LITTLE BIT. BUT
THE MENTAL AND THE
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PSYCHOLOGICAL COMBINES TOGETHER,
BECAUSE IT PLAYS ON THE MIND.
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AND IF A PERSON CAN MAKE YOU
FEEL INCOMPETENT, AND MAYBE IT
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IS MY FAULT.
MAYBE I MADE HER ANGRY.
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MAYBE I MADE HIM ANGRY.
THAT'S WHY HE IS HITTING ME.
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THAT'S A LOT OF TIME WHY WE
STAY IN AN ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP,
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BECAUSE THE GUILT COMES UPON
YOU, AND THE ABUSER MAKES YOU
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FEEL LIKE IT'S ALL YOUR
FAULT, SO THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE TO
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ENDURE, BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING
THAT YOU HAVE DONE TO CAUSE THE
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SITUATION. >> WOW.
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>> AND THAT'S WHY IT
IS SO HARD TO BELIEVE.
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>> RIGHT. BECAUSE
YOU TAKE THE BLAME.
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>> BECAUSE YOUR MIND -- THE
PSYCHOLOGICAL PART OF THE ABUSE
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HAS MADE US FEEL LIKE
EVERYTHING IS OUR PART.
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>> AND RATHER THAN YOU -- RATHER
THAN YOU REJECTING THAT, IT
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BECOMES A PART OF
HOW YOU THINK. >> UH-HUH.
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>> YES, IT DOES. AND
THE THING ABOUT IT IS, WE
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HAVE TO GIVE OUR
MINDS OVER TO GOD.
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WE HAVE TO GIVE OUR
MINES OVER TO PRAYER.
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WE HAVE TO GIVE OUR
MINES OVER TO EVERYTHING.
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THAT'S WHY GOD TALKED ABOUT WHAT
WE EAT AND WHAT WE WEAR, AND HOW
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WE DRESS, HOW WE SPEAK.
EVERYTHING WE DO PLAYS A PART ON
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OUR BEING AND WHO WE REALLY ARE.
AND SOMETIMES YOUR ABUSER CAN
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SEE THAT ENERGY.
SOMETIMES PEOPLE CAN SEE
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SOMETHING IN YOU THAT THEY DON'T
HAVE, AND THEY WANT TO TAKE IT.
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THEY WANT TO STEAL IT.
INSTEAD OF GETTING ON THEIR
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KNEES TO PRAY TO GOD TO ASK FOR
THAT SAME ENERGY AND POWER, AND
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SAY HOW WOULD YOU GET LIKE
THIS? THEY WANT TO TAKE IT.
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THEY WANT TO STEAL IT FROM YOU.
AND WHEN THEY DO IT, IT'S IN
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PAIN. THEY WANT
TO HURT YOU, BECAUSE
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THEY WANT TO BRING YOU DOWN
HERE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THEY
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ARE AT. THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE.
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>> THAT'S SO TRUE. >>
YOU KNOW, SO WE HAVE TO BE
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REALLY CAREFUL ON
HOW WE APPROACH PEOPLE.
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>> YES. >> YOU
KNOW, OUR CHARACTER, YOU
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KNOW, WE'RE SAYING WE ARE
CHRISTIAN, AND WE LOVE GOD, AND
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WE ARE
REPRESENTING THE KINGDOM OF GOD.
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PEOPLE WILL BE LOOKING FOR THEIR
REPRESENTATION IN US AT ALL
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TIMES. SOME
PEOPLE ARE SO USED TO BE
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PUT DOWN, AND ABUSED, THEY ARE
EXPECTING THE SAME THING WITH
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YOU. AND IT'S
REALLY HARD TO GET THEM
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TO TRUST AGAIN. AND
THAT'S WHERE THAT WALL
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COMES. ONCE YOU
HAVE BEEN ABUSED -- I
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HAD A WALL. IT'S A PROTECTION.
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BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO
GO THROUGH THAT ANYMORE, SO YOU
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THINK EVERYBODY THAT YOU COME
TO, YOU START TO ANALYZE, AND
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THIS RADAR GOES UP. AND
THE LORD SAID TEST EVERY
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SPIRIT, OH, MY GOODNESS, I WAS
TESTING SPIRIT, BODY LANGUAGE,
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YOU KNOW,
EVERYTHING. I JUST LOST IT.
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IT WAS A WAY TO PROTECT ME, BUT
THEN GOD SAYS, JUST COME DOWN A
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NOTCH, BECAUSE I
WANT YOU TO LOVE AGAIN.
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>> I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU,
HOW DID YOU RECOVER FROM THAT?
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BECAUSE I'M LISTENING TO YOU AN
I'M LEARNING AS I'M LISTENING TO
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YOU, BECAUSE YOU SAID SOMETHING
A MOMENT AGO THAT I WANT TO GO
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BACK TO AND HIGHLIGHT.
YOU SAID ABUSE HAPPENS -- IT'S
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CRAZY -- NOT USE THE WORD
CRAZY -- IT'S VEALING THE WAY
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YOU SAID IT.
SOMETIMES PEOPLE SEE WHAT YOU
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HAVE, THEY WANT
TO BRING YOU DOWN.
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AND THEN OTHER TIMES, THERE ARE
PEOPLE WHO SEE WHERE YOU ARE,
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AND THEY WANT TO
KEEP YOU DOWN. >> YES.
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>> THAT -- I NEVER
THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.
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>> YOU KNOW, AND EVEN -- YOU
KNOW, JUST GROWING UP IN CHRIST,
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AND I'M STILL GROWING UP IN
CHRIST, AND I LIKE THE FACT THAT
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I CAN COME TO GOD LIKE A LITTLE
CHILD EVERY DAY, BECAUSE I AM
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HIS CHILD. I AM
LEARNING SOMETHING NEW
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EVERY DAY, AND EVEN JUST BEING
IN MINISTRY, AND A WOMAN IN
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MINISTRY, HAS NOT
BEEN EASY ME EITHER.
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I HAVE ENDURED ABUSE AS WELL IN
MINISTRY, BECAUSE I AM A WOMAN.
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>> IT'S TRUE. >>
BECAUSE OF WHO I AM AND WHAT
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I HAVE BEEN THROUGH, AND WHEN I
STAND UP FOR MYSELF -- OR I WILL
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SAY STAND UP FOR GOD, THEN
PEOPLE SAY, OH, YOU HAVE BEEN
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THROUGH ABUSE,
YOU HAVE GOT ISSUES.
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SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH YOU.
I STILL GET THAT FROM PEOPLE.
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YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU DO THIS
AND DO THAT, THAT DOESN'T MEAN
00:14:23.76\00:14:28.16
THAT YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, OVERRIDE
THIS AND DO WHATEVER YOU WANT.
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YOUR PLACE IS OVER HERE AND YOUR
PLACE IS OVER THERE, AND WHO
00:14:31.53\00:14:35.44
GAVE YOU AUTHORITY
TO PREACH THE GOSPEL?
00:14:35.44\00:14:37.94
WHO GAVE YOU THE
AUTHORITY TO DO THIS AND THAT?
00:14:37.94\00:14:40.94
GOD HAS GIVEN ME
AUTHORITY. >> AMEN.
00:14:40.94\00:14:43.85
AMEN. THAT'S RIGHT.
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>> GOD HAS GIVEN EACH AND EVERY
ONE OF US AUTHORITY TO TRAMPLE
00:14:44.95\00:14:53.72
ON SERPENTS.
AND I KNOW THIS NOW.
00:14:53.72\00:14:56.46
I WAS ABLE TO LOVE AGAIN,
BECAUSE I WANTED TO SPEND TIME
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BY MYSELF TO KNOW WHO I
WAS. SO WHEN I GOT INTO A NEW
00:15:00.26\00:15:05.20
RELATIONSHIP, I DIDN'T WANT
TO BRING IT BACK INTO THE OLD
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RELATIONSHIP, SO I
STAYED SINGLE FOR SEVEN YEARS.
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AND I GOT TRAINED IN MINISTRY.
A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW, I'M
00:15:12.97\00:15:17.01
AN ELDER, BUT I DON'T TALK ABOUT
IT -- BUT I'M AN ELDER.-I HAVE
BEEN A MINISTRY LEADER.
00:15:17.01\00:15:25.49
A DEACONIST.-pI HAVE BEEN A DOOR
KEEPER. I WORKED IN THE KITCHEN,
00:15:25.49\00:15:36.93
I HAVE DONE IT ALL.
BECAUSE I WANT TO SERVE.
00:15:36.93\00:15:39.83
AND SPENDING TIME BY MYSELF GAVE
ME TIME TO HEAL, BECAUSE THE NEW
00:15:39.83\00:15:44.11
MAN THAT GOT PUT IN MY LIFE,
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE HE DIDN'T
00:15:44.11\00:15:48.14
HAVE TO PAY FOR
WHAT MY ABUSER DID TO ME.
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>> THAT'S IMPORTANT.
>> IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
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>> I TELL PEOPLE DON'T JUMP FROM
ONE RELATIONSHIP TO THE NEXT.
00:15:56.02\00:15:59.52
YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO
GIVE TOTAL OF YOURSELF WHAT THAT
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NEW RELATIONSHIP NEEDS.
>> AND DON'T EXPECT THE NEW
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RELATIONSHIP TO
HEAL THE OLD ONE.
00:16:12.90\00:16:14.70
>> EXACTLY. AND
SOMETIMES WE USE THEM AS --
00:16:14.70\00:16:17.54
>> AS A PHYSICIAN --
>> YOU KNOW, AS -- WE
00:16:17.54\00:16:21.21
USE -- SOMETIMES WE
USE NEW RELATIONSHIPS AS A
00:16:21.21\00:16:25.98
STEPPING-STONE TO GET
OVER THE LAST RELATIONSHIP.
00:16:25.98\00:16:29.08
AND WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE
COUNSELING WE NEEDED OR THE
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SPIRITUAL HEALING.
BEFORE YOU CAN BE ABLE TO GIVE
00:16:33.15\00:16:41.36
YOURSELF INTO A RELATIONSHIP,
YOU HAVE TO FORGIVE, YOU HAVE TO
00:16:41.36\00:16:46.94
HAVE A CLEAN HEART.
HOW CAN YOU ASK A CHRISTIAN
00:16:46.94\00:16:51.27
WOMAN OR CHRISTIAN MAN,
IF YOU ARE NOT THAT PERSON.
00:16:51.27\00:16:55.11
YOU HAVE TO BECOME
WHAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR.
00:16:55.11\00:16:58.05
>> VERY GOOD POINT.
THAT'S A GOOD SEGUE -- ARE WE ON
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PSYCHOLOGICAL. >> I
WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE
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ECONOMIC. >> OKAY.
00:17:06.02\00:17:06.72
>> THE ECONOMIC IS
CONTROLLING THE MONEY.
00:17:06.72\00:17:09.59
A LOT OF TIMES IF THEY ARE THE
BREADWINNER OF THE HOME -- IT
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CAN BE A WOMAN OR A MAN, IT'S
NOT JUST WOMEN AND CHILDREN WHO
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ARE BEING ABUSED. WE
HAVE MEN THAT ARE VICTIMS OF
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DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. I
HAVE A FEW MEN THAT I TALK TO
00:17:23.71\00:17:25.81
AS WELL, BUT WE HAVE TO
UNDERSTAND THAT ECONOMIC ABUSE
00:17:25.81\00:17:28.78
IS CONTROLLING THE FINANCES,
CONTROLLING THE MONEY, SAYING
00:17:28.78\00:17:33.11
YOU CAN'T HAVE A
JOB -- YOU CAN'T WORK.
00:17:33.11\00:17:39.25
>> WELL, WHERE IS
YOUR PAYCHECK? >> EXACTLY.
00:17:39.25\00:17:44.63
AND THEY WILL ISOLATE YOU FROM
YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS FROM YOUR
00:17:44.63\00:17:47.96
JOB, FROM YOUR CAREER, ISOLATE
YOU FROM ANYTHING JUST TO SERVE
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THEM. >> WAIT A
MINUTE, SO I WANT TO
00:17:52.20\00:17:54.84
DIVE INTO THAT, BECAUSE --
WOW, THAT CROSSES ALL ECONOMIC
00:17:54.84\00:17:58.34
LEVELS. >> UH-HUH.
00:17:58.34\00:17:59.77
>> BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE ARE VERY
WELL OFF, AND THEY WILL SAY, YOU
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DON'T HAVE TO WORK.
I'LL TAKE CARE OF ALL OF YOUR
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NEEDS. AND IT
FALLS APART RELATIONALLY,
00:18:07.18\00:18:11.92
THEN THAT PERSON IS NOT MAKING
MONEY, AND ABLE TO SUSTAIN
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THEMSELVES, BECAUSE I KNOW SOME
STAY AT HOME DADS, AND SOME STAY
00:18:16.86\00:18:22.00
AT HOME MOMS.
YOU KNOW THE MR. MOM.
00:18:22.00\00:18:25.03
>> YOU HAVE A
COUSIN THAT IS A MR. MOM.
00:18:25.03\00:18:28.24
>> YES, HE IS VERY WELL
EDUCATED, BUT HE IS A MR. MOM.
00:18:28.24\00:18:37.31
SO THAT'S WHY IT'S GOOD TO HAVE
PEOPLE -- TO BE OUT IN PUBLIC,
00:18:37.31\00:18:41.25
TO BE FUNCTIONING ON YOUR
OWN LEVEL, TO HAVE YOUR OWN
00:18:41.25\00:18:45.95
IDENTITY. >> JUST
TO HAVE YOUR OWN -- AND
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ANOTHER THING I WANTED TO SHARE,
YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE
00:18:47.56\00:18:50.83
MARRIED OR IF YOU ARE
MARRIED -- IF YOU ARE LISTENING
00:18:50.83\00:18:54.50
AND YOU ARE MARRIED, EVEN THOUGH
GOD BRINGS YOU TOGETHER AS ONE,
00:18:54.50\00:18:58.00
YOU ARE STILL ONE, BUT AT
THE SAME TIME YOU ARE STILL AN
00:18:58.00\00:19:02.24
INDIVIDUAL. >> THANK YOU.
00:19:02.24\00:19:03.07
>> AMEN. >> YOU
HAVE A RIGHT TO DO WHAT
00:19:03.07\00:19:06.11
YOU LIKE TO DO, TO BE YOUR
OWN PERSON, TO HAVE YOUR OWN
00:19:06.11\00:19:10.98
MINISTRY. YOU HAVE
A RIGHT TO DO WHATEVER
00:19:10.98\00:19:12.81
YOU LIKE TO DO, AND YOUR HUSBAND
HAS A RIGHT TO DO WHATEVER HE
00:19:12.81\00:19:16.45
LIKES TO DO, AND THEN YOU ALL
COME TOGETHER AND DO SOMETHING
00:19:16.45\00:19:20.19
TOGETHER. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
00:19:20.19\00:19:21.36
>> AND THAT'S THE BEAUTIFUL
PART OF THE RELATIONSHIP.
00:19:21.36\00:19:29.70
EVEN THOUGH WE'RE ONE.-I'M NOT
TAKING YOUR IDENTITY, AND YOU
ARE NOT TAKING MINE.
00:19:29.70\00:19:36.64
WE SUPPORT EACH OTHER
AND WE SUPPORT OURS TOGETHER.
00:19:36.64\00:19:41.64
THAT'S THE FOUNDATION WE NEED.
AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT ANYMORE.
00:19:41.64\00:19:44.85
WE NEED TO EDUCATE OUR YOUNG
PEOPLE ON HOW TO LOVE, HOW TO BE
00:19:44.85\00:19:52.39
IN A RELATIONSHIP.
HELP THEM COPE WITH THE PAST
00:19:52.39\00:19:56.99
PAIN, AND SAY NOW
I'M READY TO BE A WIFE.
00:19:56.99\00:19:59.66
NOW I'M READY TO BE A HUSBAND.
NOW I'M READY TO GIVE OF MYSELF.
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>> SOMEBODY ONCE
SAID A MARRIAGE IS 50/50.
00:20:05.33\00:20:08.20
I SAID IF YOU THINK MARRIAGE IS
50/50, YOU DON'T KNOW WOMEN AND
00:20:08.20\00:20:13.84
YOU DON'T KNOW MATH. I
DON'T GIVE HER 50% AND SHE
00:20:13.84\00:20:18.71
GIVES ME 50%. THAT
MEANS I'M KEEPING HALF OF
00:20:18.71\00:20:22.65
MYSELF BACK AND SHE IS
KEEPING HALF OF HERSELF BACK.
00:20:22.65\00:20:26.49
WE TRAVEL ALL OVER THE
WORLD TOGETHER.-WE WERE INVITED
00:20:26.49\00:20:33.40
SOMEPLACE AND SOMEBODY WROTE AND
SAID WHAT IS YOUR WIFE GOING TO
00:20:33.40\00:20:37.63
DO? AND I SAID SHE IS GOING
TO BE MY WIFE, I WANT HER TO BE
00:20:37.63\00:20:42.34
WITH ME. THEY SAID WELL, HOW
CAN WE JUSTIFY THE EXPERIENCE?
00:20:42.34\00:20:45.57
I SAID IF -- EITHER YOU JUSTIFY
THE EXPERIENCE OR YOU CANCEL ME,
00:20:45.57\00:20:50.61
BECAUSE WE ARE ONE. >>
AND THAT'S POWERFUL, AND
00:20:50.61\00:20:53.72
THAT'S HOW -- YOU KNOW, THE
FOUNDATION OF A FAMILY SHOULD
00:20:53.72\00:20:57.12
BE. I CALL THAT A ROCK.
00:20:57.12\00:21:00.06
YOU KNOW -- YOU KNOW, YOU CAN
BE OVER HERE AND OVER THERE, BUT
00:21:00.06\00:21:02.62
YOU COME TOGETHER. YOU
ARE A ROCK NOBODY CAN MOVE
00:21:02.62\00:21:06.93
THAT. WHEN THEY
SEE YOU AS A COUPLE,
00:21:06.93\00:21:09.56
THEY KNOW THAT NOBODY CAN GET
IN THE MIDST OF ANYTHING YOU ARE
00:21:09.56\00:21:14.20
DOING TOGETHER. THEY
KNOW WHEN THEY SEE JOHN,
00:21:14.20\00:21:17.84
THEY ARE GOING TO SEE ANGIE.
AND THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL THING.
00:21:17.84\00:21:21.34
AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE SEVEN
FACES OF ABUSE, WE'RE TALKING
00:21:21.34\00:21:25.38
ABOUT VERBAL ABUSE, EMOTIONAL
ABUSE, PHYSICAL ABUSE, ECONOMIC
00:21:25.38\00:21:31.42
ABUSE, AND SPIRITUAL. LET
ME TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
00:21:31.42\00:21:34.42
THE SPIRITUAL
ABUSE REALLY QUICKLY.
00:21:34.42\00:21:36.69
BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WHEN
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT YOU ARE IN
00:21:36.69\00:21:39.93
THE LORD OR YOU ARE IN
CHURCH, WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO USE
00:21:39.93\00:21:44.53
SCRIPTURES TO CONTROL YOU WITH.
AND THAT'S WHERE I'M TALKING
00:21:44.53\00:21:52.27
ABOUT LEADERSHIP. EVERY
DAY WHEN YOU HAVE ELDERS
00:21:52.27\00:21:55.01
OR LEADERSHIP IN THE
CHURCH -- IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT
00:21:55.01\00:22:00.85
CHURCH YOU ARE IN,
ABUSERS ARE EVERYWHERE.
00:22:00.85\00:22:04.32
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >> AND
THEY THRIVE IN THE HOUSE
00:22:04.32\00:22:07.02
OF GO. THEY
THRIVE BECAUSE THEY ARE
00:22:07.02\00:22:09.56
HIDING BEHIND THE -- THE
LEADERSHIP, YOU KNOW, POSITION
00:22:09.56\00:22:16.40
NOBODY WOULD EVER THINK AN ELLER
WOULD GO HOME AND ABUSE HIS
00:22:16.40\00:22:21.44
WIFE, OR A WIFE WOULD GO
HOME AND ABUSE HER HUSBAND.
00:22:21.44\00:22:25.77
THEY CAN GIVE THE BEST SERMON IN
THE WORLD, AND THEN GO WALK OUT
00:22:25.77\00:22:35.92
OF THE CHURCH AND
ABUSE THAT SAME SOUL.
00:22:35.92\00:22:41.49
>> SHE IS RIGHT IN
CHURCH. >> OH, MAN --
00:22:41.49\00:22:44.43
>> AN ELDER IN OUR CHURCH
WAS ABUSIVE TO ALL OF THE WOMEN.
00:22:44.43\00:22:54.84
AND WHAT WAS THE REASON?
BECAUSE HE HAD A CONTROLLING AND
00:22:54.84\00:23:00.51
ABUSIVE WIFE. >> HE
DIDN'T HAVE ANY AUTHORITY
00:23:00.51\00:23:02.68
IN HIS HOME, AND HIS
WIFE WOULD ABUSE HIM PUBLICLY.
00:23:02.68\00:23:06.38
SO HIS FRUSTRATIONS WERE TAKEN
OUT ON OTHER WOMEN, BECAUSE HE
00:23:06.38\00:23:10.49
COULDN'T TELL HER
HOW HE FELT. >> YEAH.
00:23:10.49\00:23:14.16
>> AND -- BUT IT WAS NOT JUST
WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN HIS HOME,
00:23:14.16\00:23:17.93
BUT HE WAS BEING VERBALLY
ABUSED PUBLICLY, SO ALL OF THIS
00:23:17.93\00:23:22.90
FRUSTRATION WAS COMING OUT
IN HIS POSITION AS A LEADER.
00:23:22.90\00:23:26.13
>> YEAH. >> AND
HE WAS JUST HATING ON
00:23:26.13\00:23:29.27
PEOPLE -- USING THAT POSITION
OF AUTHORITY, AND SAYING WELL,
00:23:29.27\00:23:33.31
I'M -- AND THEY WOULD STATE
THEIR POSITION -- AND SAY, WELL,
00:23:33.31\00:23:36.61
YOU LISTEN,
BECAUSE I AM AN ELDER.
00:23:36.61\00:23:39.11
I'M THE DEACON,
I'LL TELL YOU WHAT TO DO.
00:23:39.11\00:23:42.15
SO INSTEAD OF BEING
MINISTERING -- WE ARE CALLED TO
00:23:42.15\00:23:48.42
MINISTRY, NOT TO
DOMINATION. >> AND ABUSE.
00:23:48.42\00:23:52.49
>> AND CONTROL. AND USE
THAT POWER AND AUTHORITY
00:23:52.49\00:23:56.10
TO OVERRIDE, AND, YOU KNOW, ONE
THING I REALIZE AND UNDERSTAND
00:23:56.10\00:24:01.47
TOO IS THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO
UNDERSTAND THAT WE WILL STILL BE
00:24:01.47\00:24:06.51
HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR EVERYTHING
THAT WE THINK AND DO, ESPECIALLY
00:24:06.51\00:24:09.58
IF IT IS OUTSIDE OF
CHRIST. WE WILL STILL PAY FOR
00:24:09.58\00:24:13.25
EVERYTHING, EVEN
IF IT'S GOO ORE BAD.
00:24:13.25\00:24:15.38
I TELL PEOPLE EVERY DAY WHEN YOU
WAKE UP, THOSE SAME TWO ROADS
00:24:15.38\00:24:21.49
ARE FACING YOU EVER DAY.
EVERY DAY YOU HAVE TO MAKE A
00:24:21.49\00:24:25.13
DECISION. AM I
GOING TO BE A GIVER OR A
00:24:25.13\00:24:28.50
TAKER? AM I
GOING TO FOLLOW CHRIST?
00:24:28.50\00:24:30.37
AM I GOING TO FOLLOW
THE ENEMY. >> ERE DAY.
00:24:30.37\00:24:34.64
>> EVERY DAY THOSE SAME
ROADS ARE THERE, AND YOU HAVE TO
00:24:34.64\00:24:37.24
CHOOSE EVERY DAY. >> EVERY DAY.
00:24:37.24\00:24:39.67
>> IT NEVER CHANGES. >>
CHOOSE THIS DAY WHOM YOU WILL
00:24:39.67\00:24:45.65
SERVE. >> WHOM YOU WILL SERVE.
00:24:45.65\00:24:47.55
SO I LIKE THE FACT THAT WE
HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EDUCATE
00:24:47.55\00:24:51.89
EVERYONE. WE HAVE
A SUPPORT GROUP EVERY
00:24:51.89\00:24:54.86
WEDNESDAY FROM 6:30
TO 8:00 PM? ST. LOUIS.
00:24:54.86\00:24:58.83
SO IF YOU ARE OUT THERE, WE HAVE
A SUPPORT EVERY WEDNESDAY NIGHT.
00:24:58.83\00:25:03.26
WE COME TOGETHER.
WE HAVE BIBLE STUDY.
00:25:03.26\00:25:05.90
WE PRAY. WE GO
OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.
00:25:05.90\00:25:09.20
I WANTED TO ACTUALLY SHARE
MY T-SHIRT, I LEFT IT IN MY
00:25:09.20\00:25:14.71
ROOM -- >> WHAT DOES IT SAY?
00:25:14.71\00:25:16.91
>> IT TALKS ABOUT HARRISON'S
REFERRAL SERVICES, AND THERE'S A
00:25:16.91\00:25:22.35
HEART. AND WE GO
OUT AND WE DO MINISTRY
00:25:22.35\00:25:24.85
WORK TOGETHER. WE
FEED THE HOMELESS.
00:25:24.85\00:25:27.09
WE GO OUT AND HELP PEOPLE.
SOME OF THOSE LADIES THAT CAME
00:25:27.09\00:25:32.29
THROUGH HARRISON'S REFERRAL
SERVICES, THEY ARE OVER IN MY
00:25:32.29\00:25:37.07
MINISTRIES. >> AMEN.
00:25:37.07\00:25:38.33
>> REALLY? >> NOW
THEY ARE HEALING AND
00:25:38.33\00:25:41.50
HELPING OTHER PEOPLE
IN THEIR BROKEN PLACES.
00:25:41.50\00:25:43.91
>> YES. SO NOW I
HAVE THEM TO LEAD OUT
00:25:43.91\00:25:47.74
IN THE FOOD PANTRY -- WE HAVE
NEW LADIES NOW, BUT MOST OF THE
00:25:47.74\00:25:53.75
LADIES I HAVE BEEN HELPING FOR
YEARS, I HAVE THEM INVOLVED IN
00:25:53.75\00:26:00.39
THE MINISTRIES. YOU
KNOW, THEY ARE INVOLVED,
00:26:00.39\00:26:03.16
BECAUSE IT CONTINUES TO HELP
THEM GROW AND FEEL GOOD ABOUT
00:26:03.16\00:26:06.80
THEMSELVES, TO GET THEM
BACK OUT INTO THE WORKFORCE.
00:26:06.80\00:26:09.46
WE MAKE SURE WHEN WE COME
TOGETHER WE DO NATURE WALKS
00:26:09.46\00:26:14.34
TOGETHER. WE HAVE
CAFE NIGHT TOGETHER, AND
00:26:14.34\00:26:18.84
BOWLING NIGHT TOGETHER. AND
THE UPPER ROOM OF THE CHURCH
00:26:18.84\00:26:21.91
THAT WE'RE IN, THEY EVEN
GAVE US A PRAY ROOM UPSTAIRS.
00:26:21.91\00:26:26.35
THEY GAVE ME A WAR
ROOM FOR ME AND MY LADIES.
00:26:26.35\00:26:31.89
AND WE PRAY AND
ASK GOD TO HELP US.
00:26:31.89\00:26:33.79
AND WE'RE GOING TO START A NEW
BIBLE STUDY IN ST. LOUIS WITH
00:26:33.79\00:26:38.53
NEW LADIES AND THEIR
FAMILIES THAT ARE COMING IN.
00:26:38.53\00:26:45.07
OUR GROUP IS MULTI-ETHNIC.
SO WE JUST GOT -- I WOULD SAY
00:26:45.07\00:26:51.41
SEVEN SPANISH FAMILIES.
AND THEIR CHILDREN ARE COMING.
00:26:51.41\00:26:55.64
I DO COOKING DEMONSTRATIONS.
>> AND YOU DO INDCATERING.
00:26:55.64\00:27:07.22
>> I'M A CATERER ON THE SIDE.
IF YOU ARE GETTING MARRIED.
00:27:07.22\00:27:16.13
>> I WILL TRAVEL TO DO THAT.-I'M
ON FACEBOOK. HARRISON'S REFERRAL
00:27:16.13\00:27:22.87
SERVICES IS ALSO ON FACEBOOK
AS WELL. I LOVE EVANGELISM.
00:27:22.87\00:27:26.47
I LOVE PREACHING AND
TEACHING -- >> I CAN HEAR IT.
00:27:26.47\00:27:28.84
>> YES. >> I WAS
TRAINED AS A BIBLE
00:27:28.84\00:27:31.75
WORKER FOR ABOUT TEN YEARS.
I DO IN-HOME BIBLE STUDIES.
00:27:31.75\00:27:36.92
AND I'LL COME AND SIT WITH
YOU. IF YOU WANT TO SIT OUT IN
00:27:36.92\00:27:45.53
NATURE, I'LL DO THAT.
THAT'S WHAT I DO FULL-TIME IN
00:27:45.53\00:27:49.93
THE DAY. IN
THENNING I'M WITH MY FAMILY.
00:27:49.93\00:27:55.34
WE HAVE A CONFERENCE CALL
LINE. WE TALK ABOUT OUR UPCOMING
00:27:55.34\00:28:00.54
EVENTS WE GOT
COMING UP THROUGH THE YEAR.
00:28:00.54\00:28:03.28
SOME OF THE LADIES ARE ACTUALLY
VIGILANT HERE THIS WEEKEND TO
00:28:03.28\00:28:08.08
COME, SO WE CAN GET AWAY FROM
THE CITY, TO RENEW THEIR MINES,
00:28:08.08\00:28:12.15
AND REFRESH THEIR MINDS. I
WANT THEM TO GET AWAY FROM THE
00:28:12.15\00:28:17.39
CITY, JUST TO CONNECT WITH
GOD SO WE CAN PRAY TOGETHER.
00:28:17.39\00:28:20.76
SO WHEN WE LEAVE THIS PLACE,
WE KNOW WHAT GOD NEEDS US TO DO.
00:28:20.76\00:28:25.87
WE WANT TO BE OWN
FIRE FOR GOD ALL THE TIME.
00:28:25.87\00:28:29.14
>> HOW IS THIS FINANCED?
>> WELL, HONESTLY, WE NEED ALL
00:28:29.14\00:28:32.67
OF THE HELP WE CAN
GET. I HAVE BEEN PRAYING.
00:28:32.67\00:28:37.31
I HAVE BEEN ON
MY NEEDS EVERY DAY.
00:28:37.31\00:28:40.65
WE DON'T HAVE MONEY. I
JUST TRY TO RAISE MONEY BY
00:28:40.65\00:28:45.12
SELLING BASKETS. AND
I DO THE CATERING TO BUY
00:28:45.12\00:28:49.72
THINGS FOR THE MINISTRY,
BUT IT'S A VERY HEAVY FINANCIAL
00:28:49.72\00:28:54.00
BURDEN, SO WE NEED ALL
OF THE HELP WE CAN GET.
00:28:54.00\00:28:58.07
MY DREAM IS TO
HAVE MY OWN BILLING.
00:28:58.07\00:29:01.10
I HAVE BEEN PRAYING AND ASKING
GOD, AND HE SAYS CHILD BE STILL.
00:29:01.10\00:29:06.78
PLEASE STOP
ASKING ME. I HEAR YOU.
00:29:06.78\00:29:09.68
BUT THAT IS MY DREAM SO I CAN
HAVE MY OWN BUILDING AND HAVE
00:29:09.68\00:29:15.82
EVERYTHING IN JUST ONE LOCATION.
I WISH I HAD A VAN OR A TRUCK OR
00:29:15.82\00:29:20.12
SOMETHING WHERE I
CAN PICK THE LADIES UP.
00:29:20.12\00:29:24.96
SOMETIMES I LEAVE HOME A LITTLE
EARLY TO GO GET OTHER WOMEN
00:29:24.96\00:29:28.43
BEFORE I TEACH THE CLASS
JUST SO THEY CAN GET THERE.
00:29:28.43\00:29:31.60
AND SOMETIMES I HAVE 5 OR $6 IN
MY POCKET AND GIVE IT TO SOMONE
00:29:31.60\00:29:36.34
AND SAY, HEY, CAN
YOU PICK THIS SISTER UP.
00:29:36.34\00:29:39.87
SO THIS HAS BEEN FINANCED
OUT OF MY OWN POCKET FOR YEARS.
00:29:39.87\00:29:49.32
YOU WON'T BELIEVE HOW GOD
TOOK $25 AND STRETCHED IT.
00:29:49.32\00:29:53.29
>> I WOULD BELIEVE IT. BUT
I WANT TO DIVE INTO SOME OF
00:29:53.29\00:29:58.96
THESE QUESTIONS. BUT
WE ARE DEFINITELY GOING TO
00:29:58.96\00:30:01.70
REACH OUT TO THOSE WHO ARE
WATCHING AND LISTENING TO THE
00:30:01.70\00:30:04.50
PROGRAM, BECAUSE I AM SITTING
HERE -- I'M BEING BATHED -- YOU
00:30:04.50\00:30:07.74
KNOW, I'M A PASTOR. I
HAVE A WONDERFUL MARRIAGE, BUT
00:30:07.74\00:30:12.11
I'M LEARNING THINGS TONIGHT.
I'M LEARNING FROM A PERSON THAT
00:30:12.11\00:30:15.68
GOD HAS ANOINTED. THAT
GOD HAS GIVEN UNDERSTANDING
00:30:15.68\00:30:19.28
TO. THAT GOD HAS GIVEN VISION
00:30:19.28\00:30:21.68
AND -- AND CONNECTION TO.
WE CAN ALWAYS LEARN, BECAUSE NO
00:30:21.68\00:30:25.99
TWO PEOPLE ARE ALIKE. >> NO.
00:30:25.99\00:30:27.92
>> NO. >> AND FOR
GOD TO GIVE YOU THIS
00:30:27.92\00:30:33.40
DEEP LOVE TO NOT JUST COME
THROUGH YOUR OWN CHALLENGES, BUT
00:30:33.40\00:30:36.40
TO HELP PEOPLE COME THROUGH
THEIRS, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT
00:30:36.40\00:30:39.63
YOU HAVE TO REALLY STEP OUT OF
YOURSELF, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME
00:30:39.63\00:30:43.27
PEOPLE -- THERE IS A QUESTION
IN THE BIBLE THAT THE LORD ASKED
00:30:43.27\00:30:48.58
THE MAN, HE SAID DO
YOU WANT TO BE MADE WHOLE?
00:30:48.58\00:30:52.15
>> YES. >> AND
WHEN THAT -- I WAS
00:30:52.15\00:30:54.62
HEARING THAT TONIGHT WHEN I
WAS LISTENING TO YOUR TESTIMONY.
00:30:54.62\00:30:56.79
DO YOU WANT TO BE MADE WHOLE?
THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT LIVE
00:30:56.79\00:31:01.46
THEIR WHOLE LIVES AND
THEY LIVE IN THAT WAR STORY.
00:31:01.46\00:31:04.66
THEY HAVE NOT BE ABLE TO BE
RESCUED FROM THEIR WAR STORIES.
00:31:04.66\00:31:11.23
THEY HAVE NOT GOTTEN PAST
IT. THAT'S THEIR IDENTITY.
00:31:11.23\00:31:15.34
BUT THE LORD TOLD THEM,
PICK UP YOUR BED AND GO HOME.
00:31:15.34\00:31:19.97
AND PEOPLE SAID IS THAT THE
SOMETIME GUY THAT HAS BEEN BY
00:31:19.97\00:31:25.41
THE POOL ALL OF THOSE YEARS ]
AND WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY IS
00:31:25.41\00:31:30.29
YOU HAVE MET PEOPLE BY THE POOL,
YOU WERE BY THE POOL, BUT YOU
00:31:30.29\00:31:33.99
ARE NOT ANYMORE. THE
LORD SAID DO YOU WANT TO BE
00:31:33.99\00:31:38.06
MADE WHOLE? AND YOU SAID YES.
00:31:38.06\00:31:39.86
AND HE BROUGHT YOU THROUGH THAT.
AND THE PEOPLE WHO KNEW THAT
00:31:39.86\00:31:44.40
THEY ARE NOT THE PERSON THAT
THEY ARE, WHERE THEY WERE, AND
00:31:44.40\00:31:48.00
NOW YOU ARE ABLE TO
TAKE PEOPLE BY THEIR POOL.
00:31:48.00\00:31:50.94
>> AND IT'S SUCH A BLESSING,
BECAUSE PEOPLE ASK ME, WELL, HOW
00:31:50.94\00:31:54.64
DO YOU SURVIVE? DO
YOU GET PAID FOR THIS?
00:31:54.64\00:31:58.88
NO, FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS, IT
-pHAS BEEN ALL VOLUNTEER. I USE
00:31:58.88\00:32:05.39
MY OWN GAS, MY OWN PERSONAL
VEHICLES AT HOME. I THANK GOD
00:32:05.39\00:32:08.49
FOR MY HUSBAND. HE WORKS AND
PAYS THE BILLS. BUT EVERYTHING
00:32:08.49\00:32:12.93
IS OUT OF OUR OWN POCKET.
NOBODY IS HELPING US, AND WE
00:32:12.93\00:32:15.16
HAVE BEEN PRAYING FOR A
FINANCIAL BLESSING -- I NEED
00:32:15.16\00:32:19.67
DIAPERS,
TOILETRIES, PERSONAL ITEMS.
00:32:19.67\00:32:23.27
AND EVEN THOUGH IT IS JUST A
FEW OF US, IF SOMEONE CAN'T PAY
00:32:23.27\00:32:28.54
THEIR LIGHT BILL OR GAS BILL,
WE GET TOGETHER AND TRY TO HELP
00:32:28.54\00:32:36.15
EACH OTHER. >> YOU
JUST DEAL WITH THESE
00:32:36.15\00:32:39.62
ISSUES AS THEY COME. >>
DEAL WITH THEM AS THEY COME,
00:32:39.62\00:32:42.62
AND I SAY LORD, THIS PERSON
NEEDS THIS OR THAT, AND I'LL
00:32:42.62\00:32:47.40
JUST COLLECT THINGS AND
ASK CAN YOU DONATE SOMETHING?
00:32:47.40\00:32:51.47
AND GOD WILL SAY, I'M
GOING TO TAKE CARE OF IT.
00:32:51.47\00:32:54.64
SO IF YOU ARE OUT THERE AND YOU
ARE ABLE TO -- YOU KNOW, PLEASE,
00:32:54.64\00:32:59.94
PRAYER IS WHAT WE REALLY NEED.
BUT IF YOU ARE OUT THERE, YOU
00:32:59.94\00:33:04.08
KNOW, AND YOU CAN HELP IN ANY
KIND OF WAY, THERE'S MORE WOMEN
00:33:04.08\00:33:08.48
AND FAMILIES COMING IN
EVERY WEEK, EVERY WEEK.
00:33:08.48\00:33:12.85
YOU KNOW, WE'RE NEVER
WITHOUT SOMEONE TO HELP.
00:33:12.85\00:33:15.96
I GET DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
CALLS ALL THROUGH THE NIGHT.
00:33:15.96\00:33:19.96
I HAVE A CASE RIGHT NOW
THAT I'M DEALING WITH HERE.
00:33:19.96\00:33:22.70
WE HAVE CHANGED IDENTITIES.
I TRY TO HELP MEN AND WOMEN GET
00:33:22.70\00:33:29.67
DO -- TO DIFFERENT CITIES AND
00:33:29.67\00:33:31.77
STATES. SOME OF
THESE PEOPLE IDENTITIES
00:33:31.77\00:33:33.17
HAVE TO BE CHANGED. WE
DON'T HAVE FUNDS FOR THAT.
00:33:33.17\00:33:36.41
AND I GO IN MY OWN POCKET -- I
MIGHT HAVE 40 BUCKS IN MY POCKET
00:33:36.41\00:33:41.52
AND I'LL TAKE THAT, AND SAY,
HERE, THIS CAN GO TOWARDS YOUR
00:33:41.52\00:33:49.32
TICKET, BECAUSE
GOD WILL PROVIDE.
00:33:49.32\00:33:51.56
>> WOW. WE'RE
GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
00:33:51.56\00:33:54.36
SOMEBODY LISTENING TO THE
PROGRAM, YOU ARE SAYING, WOW,
00:33:54.36\00:33:58.27
THIS IS THE KIND OF
PASSION THAT GOD HAS GIVEN ME.
00:33:58.27\00:34:01.57
I WANT TO REACH
OUT AND CHANGE LIVES.
00:34:01.57\00:34:04.17
I DON'T HAVE THE GIFT THAT
SISTER LIZZIE CHAMBWA HAS, BUT
00:34:04.17\00:34:09.31
WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT HOW
YOU CAN GET INVOLVED IN A VERY
00:34:09.31\00:34:14.42
REAL WAY.
FINANCIALLY, AS WELL WAS PRAYER.
00:34:14.42\00:34:20.16
WE HAD A QUESTION. >>
WELL, THIS IS A FEW COMMENTS.
00:34:20.16\00:34:25.09
THIS IS FROM DEBRA, SHE SAYS,
WOW, WHAT A RIVETING STORY, AND
00:34:25.09\00:34:34.60
AN EXCELLENT PROGRAM.
ONE OF THE BEST AND RELEVANT
00:34:34.60\00:34:38.14
PROGRAMS THAT HAS BEEN
ON 3ABN IN RECENT TIMES.
00:34:38.14\00:34:42.61
WHAT A MINISTRY. I
WANT TO ENCOURAGE MS. LIZZIE
00:34:42.61\00:34:50.15
IN HER MINISTRY.
THANK YOU, DEBBIE.
00:34:50.15\00:34:52.95
>> AMEN. THANK YOU.
00:34:52.95\00:34:54.49
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> HERE IS ANOTHER ONE.
00:34:54.49\00:34:59.39
JUDY IN NORTH DAKOTA.
SHE SAYS PRAYING FOR A MAJOR
00:34:59.39\00:35:02.83
BREAK THROUGH IN
HER PERSONAL LIFE.
00:35:02.83\00:35:05.07
SHE WANTS TO GET MARRIED AND
BE STABLE AGAIN FINANCIALLY, AND
00:35:05.07\00:35:10.71
THAT THE LORD WILL REMOVE THE
DEVIL INFLUENCES IN AND ASH OUR
00:35:10.71\00:35:18.01
LIFE. >> WHAT ABOUT THAT?
00:35:18.01\00:35:20.28
THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE
THESE INFLUENCES AROUND THEM.
00:35:20.28\00:35:27.66
SOMETIMES IT'S
THEIR OWN ENVIRONMENT.
00:35:27.66\00:35:29.92
>> YEAH, AND THAT'S WHY WE TALK
ABOUT THE SEVEN FACES OF ABUSE,
00:35:29.92\00:35:34.23
AND HOW YOU CAN BREAK
FREE. THERE IS FREEDOM.
00:35:34.23\00:35:37.27
YOU CAN GET OUT. YOU
KNOW, WE TRY TO TEACH THEM
00:35:37.27\00:35:40.50
AND SHOW THEM LOVE AND
SUPPORT TO LET THEM KNOW THERE'S
00:35:40.50\00:35:45.27
AGENCIES, THERE'S PHONE
NUMBERS, THE HOT LINE NUMBERS.
00:35:45.27\00:35:48.98
THERE'S RESOURCES. YOU
CAN BREAK FREE FROM THIS
00:35:48.98\00:35:52.95
ABUSE. YOU JUST
HAVE TO STAY STRONG AND
00:35:52.95\00:35:54.72
ASK GOD TO GIVE
YOU THAT FIRST STEP.
00:35:54.72\00:35:56.92
IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO
LEAVE, CALL US -- CALL ME.
00:35:56.92\00:36:00.69
I'LL TALK TO YOU.
I'LL TELL YOU A SAFE WAY TO
00:36:00.69\00:36:06.09
LEAVE, THE BEST WAY TO LEAVE.
WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO LOSE
00:36:06.09\00:36:10.00
THEIR LIFE. BUT
THERE'S A WAY TO LEAVE, AND
00:36:10.00\00:36:13.47
THERE'S -- YOU KNOW, THERE'S
FREEDOM FOR YOU TO LIVE THAT
00:36:13.47\00:36:16.00
LIFE THAT YOU
REALLY WANT TO LIVE.
00:36:16.00\00:36:17.81
IF YOU STAY IN THAT ENVIRONMENT,
IT'S JUST GOING TO BRING YOU
00:36:17.81\00:36:22.24
DOWN. I HAVE
PEOPLE WHO HAVE COMMITTED
00:36:22.24\00:36:25.75
SUICIDE. I HAVE
HAD CALLS COME IN FROM
00:36:25.75\00:36:27.82
DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE WORLD.
THIS ONE LADY TOLD ME ONE TIME,
00:36:27.82\00:36:31.79
SHE SAYS, I'M
WATCHING YOUR PROGRAM ON 3ABN.
00:36:31.79\00:36:35.56
SHE IS FROM THE ISLANDS, AND SHE
SAID I HAD A BOTTLE -- SHE SAID
00:36:35.56\00:36:42.13
I HAD A SINAI PILL IN MY HAND,
AND I WAS GETTING READY TO KILL
00:36:42.13\00:36:50.24
MYSELF, AND YOUR
TESTIMONY POPPED UP ON 3ABN.
00:36:50.24\00:36:52.97
AND SHE SAID, I WAS GOING
TO KILL MYSELF, BUT I SAW YOUR
00:36:52.97\00:36:57.65
PROGRAM ON 3ABN, AND -- >> WOW.
00:36:57.65\00:37:00.98
>> -- I DECIDED NOT
TO DO IT. >> PRAISE GOD.
00:37:00.98\00:37:05.22
>> PRAISE GOD. >> AND
SHE WAS INVOLVED IN NOT
00:37:05.22\00:37:07.99
ONLY THE ABUSE, BUT THE
WITCHCRAFT AND THE DEMONIC
00:37:07.99\00:37:13.53
SPIRITS AND THE STRONG HOLD.
SO SOME PEOPLE HAVE DEMONS.
00:37:13.53\00:37:17.20
IT'S A DEMONIC SPIRIT THAT
IS CONTROLLING YOU, BUT GOD SAYS
00:37:17.20\00:37:21.77
YOU CAN BREAK FREE FROM
IT. YOU HAVE TO MAKE THAT FIRST
00:37:21.77\00:37:25.37
STEP. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
00:37:25.37\00:37:26.14
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >>
JUST TAKE THAT FIRST STEP.
00:37:26.14\00:37:29.14
STEP OUT ON FAITH. I
DIDN'T KNOW WHERE I WAS GOING
00:37:29.14\00:37:35.88
OR WHAT WAS HAPPENING.
I LEFT MY CHILDREN AT HOME
00:37:35.88\00:37:39.89
BECAUSE I KNEW THEY
WOULD BE SAFE THERE.
00:37:39.89\00:37:41.96
I STILL WENT TO WORK EVERY DAY,
I KEPT MONEY IN MY POCKET, BUT I
00:37:41.96\00:37:47.40
WAS WATCHING MY
BACK EVERYWHERE I WENT.
00:37:47.40\00:37:50.07
SOMETIMES I WAS DRIVING IN
TRAFFIC, AND I SAW MY ABUSER.
00:37:50.07\00:37:56.17
AND GOD SAID LOOK IN
YOUR REARVIEW MIRROR.
00:37:56.17\00:38:01.61
AND HE CORNERED ME IN.
AND THIS MAN -- HE WAS LOOKING
00:38:01.61\00:38:05.61
AT ME IN TRAFFIC, AND I WAS
SO AFRAID -- I KNEW IT WAS GOD.
00:38:05.61\00:38:11.82
HE GAVE ME THIS NOD. I
NODDED AT HIM, AND HE CUT IN
00:38:11.82\00:38:15.42
FRONT OF MY HUSBAND AT THE TIME,
JUST SO I WOULD BACK OUT AND
00:38:15.42\00:38:20.96
LEAVE. I'LL NEVER FORGET THAT.
00:38:20.96\00:38:23.33
THAT MAN SAVED MY LIFE. AND
I GET EMOTIONAL EVERY TIME I
00:38:23.33\00:38:27.14
THINK ABOUT IT, BUT THE LORD IS
SO GOOD TO KNOW THAT I WAS ONCE
00:38:27.14\00:38:30.94
A VICTIM OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE,
BUT NOW I'M A SURVIVOR.
00:38:30.94\00:38:34.41
I'M FREE -- I' FREE TO
PREACH. I'M FREE TO SHARE THE
00:38:34.41\00:38:38.28
TESTIMONIES OF GOD. I'M
FREE TO TELL PEOPLE THAT YOU
00:38:38.28\00:38:40.98
CAN MAKE IT. I'M ALIVE.
00:38:40.98\00:38:44.42
I'M FREE. YES, I
HAVE SCARS, BUT THAT'S
00:38:44.42\00:38:49.62
OKAY. I'M ALIVE.
00:38:49.62\00:38:52.56
I'M FREE. >> AMEN.
00:38:52.56\00:38:54.76
>> THAT'S BEAUTIFUL. THIS
LADY SAYS -- SHE WAS RAISED
00:38:54.76\00:38:58.30
IN AN ABUSIVE HOME, AND HAS FOUR
ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIPS THAT ARE
00:38:58.30\00:39:07.08
ABUSIVE. HOW CAN
GOD FORGIVE HER, SHE
00:39:07.08\00:39:10.98
WANTS TO KNOW. HOW
CAN GOT FORGIVE HER?
00:39:10.98\00:39:15.75
>> THAT'S UNUSUAL --
SHE MAY THINK IT'S HER.
00:39:15.75\00:39:20.22
>> WE TALKED ABOUT
THAT. IT'S THAT MENTAL ABUSE.
00:39:20.22\00:39:24.16
SHE IS GOING
THROUGH THAT GUILT SYNDROME.
00:39:24.16\00:39:27.30
>> YES. >>
BECAUSE NOBODY -- THEE'S
00:39:27.30\00:39:29.73
NOTHING THAT ANYBODY CAN
EVER DESERVE TO BE ABUSED.
00:39:29.73\00:39:33.67
A PERSON WILL ABUSE USE, BECAUSE
THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH
00:39:33.67\00:39:36.71
THE ABUSER. I CALL
IT REVERSE PSYCHOLOGY.
00:39:36.71\00:39:40.08
>> LOOK AT THIS
CAMERA AND TELL THAT --
00:39:40.08\00:39:43.31
>> TALK TO THE CAMERA.
>> IF YOU ARE THERE AND
00:39:43.31\00:39:47.68
LISTENING, YOU CAN
BREAK FREE. YOU CAN BE FREE.
00:39:47.68\00:39:50.92
YOU JUST HAVE TO
TAKE THAT FIRST STEP.
00:39:50.92\00:39:53.92
STEP OUT ON FAITH AND BELIEVE.
THAT'S HOW GOD LET ME KNOW THAT
00:39:53.92\00:40:01.50
I CAN BELIEVE. JUST
HOLD ON TO GOD AND BELIEVE
00:40:01.50\00:40:05.03
THAT YOU CAN DO IT. GOD
HAS ALREADY FORGIVEN YOU.
00:40:05.03\00:40:14.28
FORGIVE YOURSELF FIRST FOR
ALLOWING YOURSELF TO STAY IN AN
00:40:14.28\00:40:17.98
ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP.
FORGIVE YOURSELF FIRST AND THEN
00:40:17.98\00:40:21.62
IT WILL GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY
TO BE FREE TO FORGIVE YOUR
00:40:21.62\00:40:26.62
ABUSER. THE ABUSER NEEDS HELP.
00:40:26.62\00:40:30.33
THOUGH PERSON IS SICK
MENTALLY, PSYCHOLOGICAL.
00:40:30.33\00:40:35.46
AND THAT PERSON NEEDS HELP.
THEY HAVE TO ALSO GET HELP TOO
00:40:35.46\00:40:40.50
AS WELL. YOU NEED
TO GET THE HELP THAT
00:40:40.50\00:40:42.84
YOU NEED,
BECAUSE YOU NEED TO HEAL.
00:40:42.84\00:40:45.51
AND THAT ABUSER HAS TO GET
THE HELP IF THEY NEED TO HEAL.
00:40:45.51\00:40:49.38
AND I WANT TO MAKE A CLEAR POINT
TOO -- ONE YOUNG LADY WAS SAYING
00:40:49.38\00:40:58.29
SOMETHING ABOUT SHE WANTS TO
GET-MARRIED. SOMETIMES BEFORE WE
00:40:58.29\00:41:02.76
GET MARRIED YOU SEE THE ABUSE,
AND WE'LL LOOK OVER THAT --
00:41:02.76\00:41:05.43
>> ALL OF THE FLAGS. >>
ALL OF THESE RED FLAGS ARE
00:41:05.43\00:41:10.03
THERE, AND WE'LL STILL GET
MARRIED ANYWAY, THINKING THE
00:41:10.03\00:41:14.27
PERSON WILL CHANGE.
IT WON'T BE DIFFERENT.
00:41:14.27\00:41:16.14
THE PERSON IS
SHOWING YOU WHO THEY ARE NOW.
00:41:16.14\00:41:18.94
THAT IS THE RED FLAGS.
THOSE ARE THOSE THINGS THAT GOD
00:41:18.94\00:41:23.41
WANTS YOU TO SEE, BECAUSE THAT'S
NOT THE PERSON THAT GOD WANTS
00:41:23.41\00:41:27.15
YOU TO BE WITH. >> NO.
00:41:27.15\00:41:29.32
>> I BELIEVE WE JUST
TAKE OUR TIME AND TRUST GOD.
00:41:29.32\00:41:33.05
ALLOW HIM TO PICK OUR SOULMATE
FOR US, AND ALLOW HIM TO LEAD
00:41:33.05\00:41:39.86
US, THEN WE WILL HAVE
WHAT GOD WANTS US TO HAVE.
00:41:39.86\00:41:44.37
THE BIBLE SAYS SEEK THREE FIRST
THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN AND ALL OF
00:41:44.37\00:41:48.77
ITS RIGHTEOUSNESS, AND THEN
ALL OTHER THINGS WILL BE ADDED.
00:41:48.77\00:41:53.27
AND THAT MEANS YOUR SPOUSE WILL
BE ADDED TO YOU, YOUR JOB WILL
00:41:53.27\00:41:57.68
BE ADDED TO YOU, YOUR HEALTH
WILL BE ADDED TO YOU, YOUR
00:41:57.68\00:42:02.05
FAMILY WILL BE ADDED TO YOU.
A LOT OF TIMES WE WANT TO SEEK
00:42:02.05\00:42:05.85
THE THINGS OF THE WORLD FIRST
AND PUT GOD LAST, BUT THEN WHEN
00:42:05.85\00:42:10.59
WE GO THROUGH THE TRIALS AND
TRIBULATIONS, THEN WE WANT TO
00:42:10.59\00:42:18.43
SEE GOD IN THE
MIDST OF OUR AGONY.
00:42:18.43\00:42:22.80
BUT GOD SAYS SEEK THE KINGDOM
FIRST, AND THEN LOOK FOR THAT
00:42:22.80\00:42:33.42
SPOUSE. >> THERE
IS A POINT, IF YOU SEE
00:42:33.42\00:42:37.32
THE RED FLAGS,
DON'T IGNORE THEM.
00:42:37.32\00:42:40.52
>> THEY ARE RED FOR A PERSON.
>> AND THE OTHER THING IS DON'T
00:42:40.52\00:42:44.29
THINK YOU CAN
CHANGE THAT PERSON.
00:42:44.29\00:42:46.59
AND DON'T THINK BY MARRYING OR
GETTING INTO THAT RELATIONSHIP,
00:42:46.59\00:42:49.90
YOU ARE GOING TO
HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT.
00:42:49.90\00:42:53.80
SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE ENTERED
RELATIONSHIPS AND TAKEN ON THE
00:42:53.80\00:42:57.94
ROLE OF A COUNSELOR.
I CAN FIX HIM OR HER.
00:42:57.94\00:43:01.98
AND INSTEAD OF FIXING
THAT PERSON, THEY GOT BROKEN.
00:43:01.98\00:43:06.78
>> YES. >> YOU
CAN'T FIX SOMEBODY.
00:43:06.78\00:43:09.38
>> NO. >> THE LORD
IS THE ONLY ONE THAT
00:43:09.38\00:43:11.59
CAN DO THAT. >>
IT'S BECAUSE WE LOVE THE
00:43:11.59\00:43:14.69
PERSON. WE WANT
THE BEST FOR THEM.
00:43:14.69\00:43:16.52
WE WANT TO BE WITH THEM.
WE WANT TO SPEND OUR LIFE WITH
00:43:16.52\00:43:20.76
THEM, SO WE THINK,
MAYBE I CAN FIX IT.
00:43:20.76\00:43:24.37
BUT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND
THAT WE'RE BROKEN PEOPLE TOO.
00:43:24.37\00:43:27.20
>> EXACTLY. >> HOW
WITH YOU FIX SOMEBODY
00:43:27.20\00:43:30.04
THAT IS BROKEN
WHEN YOU ARE BROKEN.
00:43:30.04\00:43:32.51
>> GOOD POINT. >>
THAT'S A HOME RUN RIGHT
00:43:32.51\00:43:35.91
THERE. >> HOW CAN
YOU LEAD SOMEONE TO
00:43:35.91\00:43:37.45
CHRIST WHEN YOU ARE
NOT WILLING TO BE LEAD.
00:43:37.45\00:43:40.48
I BELIEVE -- >> SAY
THAT AGAIN -- HOW CAN YOU
00:43:40.48\00:43:44.75
LEAD SOMEONE TO BE IN CHRIST
WHEN YOU ARE NOT IN CHRIST.
00:43:44.75\00:43:47.86
>> YOU CAN'T. >> YOU CAN'T.
00:43:47.86\00:43:49.42
THERE'S NO POSSIBLE WAY.
THE ONLY WAY WE CAN BE THE
00:43:49.42\00:43:54.23
VESSELS THAT GOD WANTS US TO BE
IS WE HAVE TO LET GOD CONTROL.
00:43:54.23\00:44:00.67
MY PRAYER EVERY DAY
IS GOD, I KNOW I'M HUMAN.
00:44:00.67\00:44:04.41
YOU KNOW ME MORE
THAN I KNOW MYSELF.
00:44:04.41\00:44:08.61
YOU KNOW HOW ANXIOUS I
GET. I WANT TO BE WHERE YOU ARE.
00:44:08.61\00:44:12.45
I CAN NEVER GO WRONG IF
I'M WHERE GOD WANTS ME TO BE.
00:44:12.45\00:44:16.45
AND THAT HAS BEEN MY
PRAYER. THIS IS ABOUT YOU, GOD.
00:44:16.45\00:44:22.96
THIS PROGRAM IS NOT
ABOUT ME. IT'S ABOUT GOD.
00:44:22.96\00:44:26.49
IT'S ABOUT DRAWING PEOPLE TO
-- YOU KNOW, TO THE HEALER OF
00:44:26.49\00:44:30.60
WHATEVER YOU ARE GOING THROUGH.
GOD IS THE HEALER FOR EVERY
00:44:30.60\00:44:35.60
AILMENT IN OUR
LIFE, INCLUDING ABUSE.
00:44:35.60\00:44:38.21
>> WOW. YOU ARE
GOING TO READ THIS
00:44:38.21\00:44:39.91
QUESTION AND THEN I
WANT TO SHARE SOMETHING.
00:44:39.91\00:44:41.78
>> YOU SURE? >> YEAH.
00:44:41.78\00:44:43.01
>> OKAY. THIS
PERSON -- DO NOT MENTION MY
00:44:43.01\00:44:48.18
NAME THEY SAID, MY HUSBAND HAS
LEFT MARRIAGE, BUT HASN'T MOVED
00:44:48.18\00:44:53.09
OUT OF THE HOUSE, BECAUSE
IT'S NOT CONVENIENT FOR HIM YET.
00:44:53.09\00:44:57.93
I'M TRYING TO BE
PATIENT AND HEAR GOD'S GUIDANCE.
00:44:57.93\00:45:02.60
PSYCHOLOGICAL ABUSE IS
WHAT HURTS THE MOST IN THIS
00:45:02.60\00:45:05.33
SITUATION. WHAT
WOULD YOU RECOMMEND?
00:45:05.33\00:45:07.80
AND SHE SAID GOD BLESS YOU
FOR YOUR POWERFUL MINISTRY.
00:45:07.80\00:45:13.91
>> I WOULD RECOMMEND, FIRST
OF ALL TO CONTINUE TO PRAY.
00:45:13.91\00:45:18.35
AND IF THE SITUATION IS SO
UNBEARABLE WHERE IT'S GOING TO
00:45:18.35\00:45:22.02
CAUSE YOU TO BUILD UP HATE IN
YOUR HEART, SOMETIMES IT'S BEST
00:45:22.02\00:45:27.26
THAT YOU LEAVE. THE
ABUSER LIKES THE CONTROL.
00:45:27.26\00:45:30.76
YES, I'M LETTING YOU KNOW I'M
LEAVING.-I'M LETTING YOU KNOW I
00:45:30.76\00:45:36.10
DON'T WANT TO BE WITH YOU
ANYMORE. BUT I'M NOT GOING TO GO
00:45:36.10\00:45:39.97
ANYWHERE UNTIL I FEEL LIKE
LEAVING. ELSE THAT STILL A FRM
00:45:39.97\00:45:43.17
OF CONTROL OF ABUSE. SO
SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO TAKE
00:45:43.17\00:45:45.57
THE INITIATIVE AND SAY IF THIS
PERSON IS NOT GOING TO LEAVE, I
00:45:45.57\00:45:50.38
NEED MY PEACE, THEN IT'S BEST
THAT YOU LEAVE THE ENVIRONMENT.
00:45:50.38\00:45:55.15
>> THAT'S VERY INSIGHTFUL.
AND YOU WERE THERE, SO YOU KNOW.
00:45:55.15\00:45:59.62
ONE PERSON SAYS I'M NOT LEAVING
UNTIL I'M READY TO LEAVE.
00:45:59.62\00:46:03.63
THEY DON'T WANT YOU, BUT THEY
ARE STILL GOING TO CONTROL YOUR
00:46:03.63\00:46:07.03
SPACE. >> YES.
00:46:07.03\00:46:07.66
>> THAT'S DEEP. >> I
EXPERIENCED THAT AS WELL.
00:46:07.66\00:46:11.03
I HAD TO LEARN THAT A WELL.
AND I SAID, GOD, I DON'T WANT TO
00:46:11.03\00:46:14.87
BE ANGRY. I DON'T
WANT TO BE UNFORGIVING.
00:46:14.87\00:46:18.44
I DON'T WANT TO HOLD HATRED IN
MY HEART, BECAUSE THAT SEPARATES
00:46:18.44\00:46:23.24
ME FROM YOU. THIS
SITUATION IS KEEPING ME
00:46:23.24\00:46:25.65
AWAY FROM YOU. IT'S
DESTROYING MY RELATIONSHIP
00:46:25.65\00:46:28.22
WITH YOU, WHICH IS THE ULTIMATE
RELATIONSHIP THAT WE CAN EVER
00:46:28.22\00:46:33.49
HAVE. WE CAN BE MARRIED AND HAVE
00:46:33.49\00:46:35.86
RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR FAMILY,
OUR SPOUSES, BUT THE ULTIMATE
00:46:35.86\00:46:40.70
RELATIONSHIP IS A
RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD.
00:46:40.70\00:46:42.86
AND IF THIS RELATIONSHIP IS
CAUSING YOU TO BE DEPRESSED, SO
00:46:42.86\00:46:49.24
STRIP YOU OF YOUR IDENTITY,
TO TAKE YOU FROM WHO YOU ARE AS
00:46:49.24\00:46:55.18
PERSON, AND CAUSE YOU TO BE
BITTER OR ANGRY, AND IT MIGHT
00:46:55.18\00:46:59.21
LEAD YOU TO BE VIOLENT. I
WOULD SUGGEST YOU LEAVE THE
00:46:59.21\00:47:02.92
ENVIRONMENT. ALLOW
THE ABUSER TO MAINTAIN THE
00:47:02.92\00:47:05.85
HOME. YOU LEAVE THE ATMOSPHERE.
00:47:05.85\00:47:07.59
>> BECAUSE YOU CHOSE TO DO
THAT. YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT.
00:47:07.59\00:47:11.46
YOU LEFT AND WENT IN DIFFERENT
PARTS OF YOUR COMMUNITY.
00:47:11.46\00:47:14.76
>> BECAUSE AS LONG AS I WAS
THERE, HE WASN'T GOING TO LEAVE.
00:47:14.76\00:47:18.23
I WORKED TWO JOBS
AT THE TIME -- >> WOW.
00:47:18.23\00:47:23.84
>> AND, YOU KNOW, AT THE TIME
I MADE MORE MONEY, BUT HE STILL
00:47:23.84\00:47:29.14
HAD THAT CONTROL, YOU KNOW,
BECAUSE HE WAS THE HEAD OF THE
00:47:29.14\00:47:31.31
HOME -- HE WAS THE HEAD OF THE
HOUSEHOLD, AND I JUST FELT LIKE
00:47:31.31\00:47:35.48
IF I SEPARATED FROM HIM -- EVEN
THOUGH I WAS GOING THROUGH THE
00:47:35.48\00:47:39.42
ABUSE, I FELT LIKE, HOW
AM I GOING TO TAKE CARE OF MY
00:47:39.42\00:47:44.69
CHILDREN AND MAINTAIN THE BILLS,
AND THAT'S WHAT MADE ME STAY SO
00:47:44.69\00:47:49.16
LONG. BUT ONCE I
WAS OUTSIDE OF THE
00:47:49.16\00:47:51.43
HOME, AND WAS ABLE TO SPEND TIME
WITH GOD, AND UNDERSTAND YOU
00:47:51.43\00:47:55.20
HAVE TO DO THIS.
YOU HAVE TO BE STRONG.
00:47:55.20\00:47:58.51
AND WHEN I REALIZED THAT I CAN
TAKE CARE OF MY CHILDREN ON MY
00:47:58.51\00:48:03.91
OWN, I REALIZED, I COULD
MAINTAIN, I FELT BETTER FREE
00:48:03.91\00:48:09.42
FROM MY ABUSER IN AN ABUSER-FREE
HOME -- ABUSIVE-FREE HOME,
00:48:09.42\00:48:15.69
INSTEAD OF BEING IN A
RELATIONSHIP WITH MY ABUSER,
00:48:15.69\00:48:20.73
WORRYING ABOUT HOW THE
BILLS WAS GOING TO GET PAID.
00:48:20.73\00:48:23.83
I WOULD RATHER BE
HOMELESS ON THE STREETS, FREE.
00:48:23.83\00:48:27.20
>> I LIKE THAT. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
00:48:27.20\00:48:29.50
>> THAN TO B IN A HOME WHERE
THE BILLS ARE PAID, AND YOU
00:48:29.50\00:48:32.87
MIGHT HAVE A LOT OF MONEY
-- >> BUT YOU ARE IN PRISON.
00:48:32.87\00:48:36.18
>> EXACTLY. A LOT OF
PEOPLE THINK ABUSE IS
00:48:36.18\00:48:39.78
JUST IN
LOW-POVERTY AREAS, YOU KNOW --
00:48:39.78\00:48:47.52
>> SOCIOECONOMIC -- >>
EXACTLY.-BUT ABUSERS CAN BE
00:48:47.52\00:48:53.70
EVERYWHERE. YOU CAN HAVE ALL
OF THE MONEY IN THE WORLD, THE
00:48:53.70\00:48:57.20
YACHTS AND EVERYTHING, IT
DOESN'T MATTER, YOU ARE STILL --
00:48:57.20\00:49:02.20
YOU KNOW, AT A POINT
WHERE YOU CANSTILL BE ABUSED.
00:49:02.20\00:49:04.77
AND I LIKE TO DRAW A POINT HERE
REALLY QUICKLY IS THIS IS NOT
00:49:04.77\00:49:09.01
JUST ABOUT IF YOU ARE AMERICAN.
THIS ABUSE IS ALL OVER THE
00:49:09.01\00:49:14.05
WORLD. >> WORLD WIDE.
00:49:14.05\00:49:15.25
>> THERE IS WOMEN AND MEN FROM
EVERY COUNTY, EVERY NATIONALITY,
00:49:15.25\00:49:20.22
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE
YOU LIVE, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
00:49:20.22\00:49:23.22
HAS -- DOES NOT HAVE A
FACE -- IT HAS A FACE, BUT AT
00:49:23.22\00:49:28.03
THE SAME TIME, IT DOESN'T MATTER
WHO YOU ARE -- I WANT TO REACH
00:49:28.03\00:49:32.77
OUT TO MY SISTER AND BROTHERS
FROM OTHER COUNTRIES TO LET YOU
00:49:32.77\00:49:37.77
KNOW THAT HARRISON'S REFERRAL
SERVICES -- WE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE
00:49:37.77\00:49:39.97
TO REACH YOU, BUT
WE'RE PRAYING FOR YOU.
00:49:39.97\00:49:42.91
YOU CAN CALL US, AND WE CAN PRAY
WITH YOU, BUT FINE SOMEONE IN
00:49:42.91\00:49:48.58
YOUR COUNTRY THAT CAN HELP YOU.
FIND A PLACE A PLACE OF SAFETY.
00:49:48.58\00:49:54.29
WE CALL IT THE ARC OF SAFETY,
FIND A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT YOU
00:49:54.29\00:49:59.83
CAN CONNECT WITH. I WISH
I COULD HAVE THE FINANCES
00:49:59.83\00:50:04.93
TO DO IT. I WISH
I COULD TAKE THIS
00:50:04.93\00:50:08.37
MINISTRY ALL AROUND THE
WORLD -- I WISH I COULD GET INTO
00:50:08.37\00:50:13.34
CHURCHES. IF YOU
ARE OUT THERE, I'M A
00:50:13.34\00:50:15.88
KEYNOTE SPEAKER, A
MOTIVATIONAL SPEAKER.
00:50:15.88\00:50:18.51
I WANT TO REACH OUT TO OUR YOUNG
PEOPLE AT THE AGE OF DATING,
00:50:18.51\00:50:24.12
CONTEMPLATING DATING, HIGH
SCHOOL, COLLEGE, WE NEED TO
00:50:24.12\00:50:27.52
EDUCATE OUR YOUNG PEOPLE.
>> YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT.
00:50:27.52\00:50:31.73
THERE ARE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT WE
ARE GOING TO -- THAT -- LIZZIE
00:50:31.73\00:50:35.23
CHAMBWA -- SHE SAYS ONE OF HER
DESIRES IN THE FUTURE IS TO TALK
00:50:35.23\00:50:39.03
TO YOUNG GIRLS AND BOYS BEFORE
THEY BECOME THE ABUSER OR THE
00:50:39.03\00:50:43.64
ABUSED. EDUCATE THEM.
00:50:43.64\00:50:44.61
>> EXACTLY. >> I
WANT TO TAKE THE TIME WE
00:50:44.61\00:50:47.51
HAVE HERE, AND MAKE
SURE THAT I GOT ALL SEVEN.
00:50:47.51\00:50:52.28
VERBAL, MENTAL, PSYCHOLOGICAL,
PHYSICAL ABUSE, SPIRITUAL ABUSE.
00:50:52.28\00:51:02.12
DID I MISS ONE? >> EMOTIONAL.
00:51:02.12\00:51:07.76
>> OKAY. I COULD
TELL FROM MY OWN SENSE
00:51:07.76\00:51:10.70
OF WHAT GOD IS DOING IN YOUR
LIFE, THERE ARE THOSE OF YOU
00:51:10.70\00:51:14.14
WATCHING THE PROGRAM THAT
SAY, WELL, I KNOW OF SOMEONE.
00:51:14.14\00:51:17.11
I MAY BE THAT
PERSON. >> IT'S RUE.
00:51:17.11\00:51:19.54
>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, BUT
WE WANT TO GIVE YOU INFORMATION
00:51:19.54\00:51:22.24
IN JUST A MOMENT HERE, ON
HOW YOU CAN GET IN TOUCH WITH
00:51:22.24\00:51:28.22
HARRISON'S REFERRAL SERVICES.
AND ALSO HOW TO GET IN TOUCH
00:51:28.22\00:51:30.45
WITH LIZZIE CHAMBWA, BECAUSE AS
-SHE HAS MENTIONED, SHE HAS BEEN
INVITED PLACES TO TALK TO
00:51:30.45\00:51:36.29
GROUPS, AND HOW MANY YEARS
NOW THE MINISTRY HAS BEEN --
00:51:36.29\00:51:39.43
>> ABOUT 15 YEARS. >> 15 YEARS.
00:51:39.43\00:51:42.20
>> PROVIDENTIAL,
NOT COINCIDENTAL.
00:51:42.20\00:51:51.61
AND YOU HAVE -- >>
YEAH, OUR SEVENTH-DAY
00:51:51.61\00:51:54.41
ADVENTIST CHURCH, IT IS CALLED
END IT NOW, SAY NO TO VIOLENCE.
00:51:54.41\00:51:58.91
IT'S AN
INITIATIVE TO STOP VIOLENT.
00:51:58.91\00:52:02.02
>> ON THEIR PAGE THEY HAVE NOT
ONLY A PICTURE OF A WOMAN, BUT A
00:52:02.02\00:52:06.02
PICTURE OF A MAN, AND A CHILD.
>> THERE'S CHILD ABUSE.-THERE'S
00:52:06.02\00:52:11.49
ELDERLY ABUSE. THERE ARE SO MANY
TYPES. >> AND EVEN THOUGH WE
00:52:11.49\00:52:14.36
TALKED ABOUT THE
SEVEN FACES, THERE IS MORE.
00:52:14.36\00:52:16.93
THE ELDER ABUSE AS WELL.
AND PEOPLE UNDERSTAND -- WE HAVE
00:52:16.93\00:52:21.40
A BANQUET EVERY YEAR.
IT'S CALLED HARRISON'S REFERRAL
00:52:21.40\00:52:25.14
SERVICES VICTORY
BANQUET. >> WHEN IS THAT?
00:52:25.14\00:52:27.08
>> IT'S GOING TO BE IN AUGUST.
IF YOU WANT TO COME TO ST. LOUIS
00:52:27.08\00:52:31.91
AND BE A PART OF IT, YOU CAN
CALL ME AND GET IN CONTACT WITH
00:52:31.91\00:52:37.19
ME. BUT IT'S OUR TENTH YEAR, AND
00:52:37.19\00:52:39.92
IT'S AN ELEGANT EVENT. THE
FLOORS OPEN THE WHOLE NIGHT
00:52:39.92\00:52:45.46
FOR TESTIMONIES, SO YOU CAN JUST
COME UP AND SHARE WHAT GOD HAS
00:52:45.46\00:52:50.07
BROUGHT YOU THROUGH -- >>
WE MISSED THE LAST ONE, BUT I
00:52:50.07\00:52:53.13
DON'T WANT TO MISS
THE NEXT ONE. >> YES.
00:52:53.13\00:52:55.77
THERE WILL BE TICKETS THAT
WILL BE SOLD, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO
00:52:55.77\00:52:59.81
RAISE FUNDS. THIS IS
A WAY I CAN HELP RAISE
00:52:59.81\00:53:03.18
MONEY SO I CAN CONTINUE TO
HELP GIVE THE LADIES WHAT THEY
00:53:03.18\00:53:07.22
NEED -- AND GET SUPPLIES
AND EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED.
00:53:07.22\00:53:11.32
SO IF YOU ARE OUT THERE
AND WOULD LIKE TO DONATE TO OUR
00:53:11.32\00:53:15.82
MINISTRY, OR AT
TEN OUR VICTORY BAN
00:53:15.82\00:53:24.27
BANQUET. >> ST. LOUIS COOING.
00:53:24.27\00:53:25.13
>> YES. AND YOU
ARE GOING TO TASTE THE
00:53:25.13\00:53:28.74
CATERING FOOD, BECAUSE
I DO ALL OF THE CATERING.
00:53:28.74\00:53:31.94
IF YOU ARE VEGAN OR VEGETARIAN,
THAT'S THE MEAL YOU ARE GOING TO
00:53:31.94\00:53:35.84
GET. BUT WE HAVE
A WONDERFUL TIME.
00:53:35.84\00:53:39.21
IT'S AWESOME. AND IT
GIVES ALL HONOR AND GLORY
00:53:39.21\00:53:44.29
TO GOD ABOUT WHAT HE
HAS BROUGHT YOU THROUGH.
00:53:44.29\00:53:46.76
AND I JUST WANT TO THANK
GOD, AND YOU GUYS FOR LISTENING.
00:53:46.76\00:53:52.53
THOSE WHO WANT TO BE EDUCATED,
EVEN IF YOU ARE NOT ABUSE OR
00:53:52.53\00:53:56.63
HAVE NEVER BEEN ABUSED, THIS IS
A GOOD WAY OF GETTING EDUCATED
00:53:56.63\00:54:02.67
ON HOW YOU CAN HELP SOMEONE IN
YOUR FAMILY THAT MIGHT BE GOING
00:54:02.67\00:54:07.48
THROUGH ABUSE. >> I
DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN TELL,
00:54:07.48\00:54:10.25
BUT THIS WOMAN IS ON FIRE.
NOT HER OWN FIRE, BUT THE LORD
00:54:10.25\00:54:16.12
HAS IGNITED A FLAME IN HER LIFE.
AND SOME OF THE REASON THE LORD
00:54:16.12\00:54:23.19
ALLOWS US TO GO THROUGH SOME OF
THE THINGS WE HAVE GONE THROUGH
00:54:23.19\00:54:27.30
IS TO EQUIP US. IF
YOU ARE LISTENING AND
00:54:27.30\00:54:30.20
WATCHING THE PROGRAM, YOU HEARD
LIZZIE CHAMBWA TALK ABOUT THE
00:54:30.20\00:54:35.04
ENABLING OF THIS MINISTRY.
THIS MINISTRY, HARRISON'S
00:54:35.04\00:54:37.77
REFERRAL SERVICES IS A MINISTRY
THAT COULD DO BETTER IF I HAD
00:54:37.77\00:54:41.61
MORE RESOURCES. AND I
HAVE HAD TO KIND OF PULL
00:54:41.61\00:54:45.18
THAT OUT OF HER
-- SHE IS SO HUMBLE.
00:54:45.18\00:54:48.08
>> I KNOW. >> BUT
SHE IS SKIMPING HERE AND
00:54:48.08\00:54:52.35
THERE. IF THE LORD
HAS IMPRESSED YOU AT
00:54:52.35\00:54:55.26
ALL, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO
BRING THAT INFORMATION UP ON THE
00:54:55.26\00:54:58.99
SCREEN, SO WE
CAN SHOW THE WEBSITE.
00:54:58.99\00:55:03.30
HARRISONSREFERRALSERVICES.COM.
THAT WEBSITE IS GOING TO BE
00:55:03.30\00:55:06.07
ACTIVE IN ABOUT A
WEEK. CHECK THAT OUT.
00:55:06.07\00:55:09.87
AND ALSO A PHONE NUMER -- WELL,
YOU CAN CONTACT US HERE AT 3ABN
00:55:09.87\00:55:15.61
TO FIND OUT. THE PHONE NUMBER IS
00:55:15.61\00:55:29.62
314-482-2594. AND
IT MAY IMPRESS YOU TO
00:55:29.62\00:55:32.09
PROVIDE A VAN OR A TRUCK
-- >> TO PICK UP THE LADIES.
00:55:32.09\00:55:35.86
>> AND A BUILDING.-p>> A
BUILDING. SHE TALKED ABOUT HOW
00:55:35.86\00:55:41.04
WONDERFUL AND POWERFUL WOULD IT
BE TO HAVE HARRISON'S REFERRAL
00:55:41.04\00:55:48.08
SERVICES BE RUN OUT OF A
BUILDING. SO IF THE LORD IS
00:55:48.08\00:55:52.21
SPEAKING TO YOU TONIGHT.
THE INFORMATION -- IF YOU MISSED
00:55:52.21\00:55:56.05
IT, WE CAN GET IT TO
YOU IF YOU CONTACT 3ABN.
00:55:56.05\00:56:00.06
AND YOU TALKED ABOUT MATTHEW 28,
GO AND TEACH ALL NATIONS, BUT I
00:56:00.06\00:56:04.19
BELIEVE THE ONE THAT STICKS IN
MY MIND RIGHT NOW, HONEY IS WHEN
00:56:04.19\00:56:08.23
I WAS HUNGRY, WHEN I WAS ABUSED,
WHEN WAS I ON STREETS, WHEN I
00:56:08.23\00:56:19.11
WAS BROKEN DOWN,
AND DID YOU HELP ME OUT?
00:56:19.11\00:56:23.48
THE LORD BROUGHT SISTER LIZZIE
CHAMBWA FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS.
00:56:23.48\00:56:31.65
AND WE WANT TO THANK YOU
FOR COMING TO BE AT 3ABN.
00:56:31.65\00:56:36.16
HONEY, OUR TIME WENT
BY SO AMAZINGLY FAST.
00:56:36.16\00:56:39.36
>> YEAH, AND ABUSE IS
AWFUL. IT'S NOT FROM GOD.
00:56:39.36\00:56:42.63
IT'S A FROM THE ENEMY. AND
AS OUR CHURCH SAYS, WE WANT
00:56:42.63\00:56:45.87
TO END IT NOW.
AND IT IS WORLDWIDE.
00:56:45.87\00:56:48.77
SO LIZZIE, YOU HAVE BEEN A
BLESSING TO US ON 3ABN RADIO.
00:56:48.77\00:56:52.64
>> THANK YOU. >> AS
WELL AS HERE AT 3ABN.
00:56:52.64\00:56:56.34
>> AND FRIENDS, OUR TIME HAS
COME AND GONE SO AMAZINGLY FAST.
00:56:56.34\00:57:01.32
I CAN'T BELIEVE IT. BUT
UNTIL WE SEE YOU AGAIN MAY
00:57:01.32\00:57:04.65
THE LORD'S BLESSINGS BE ON YOU
AND ON YOUR FAMILY, AND ON YOUR
00:57:04.65\00:57:10.79
MARRIAGE. GOD BLESS
YOU UNTIL WE SEE YOU
00:57:10.79\00:57:12.29
AGAIN. ¤
00:57:12.29\00:57:15.16