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00:01 ♪ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ♪ ♪ SPEND MY LIFE ♪
00:07 ♪ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ♪ ♪ I WANTED TO SPEND MY LIFE ♪ 00:19 ♪ REMOVING PAIN ♪ ♪ LORD, LET MY WORDS ♪ 00:26 ♪ LET MY WORDS ♪ ♪ HEAL UP HEARTS THAT HURT ♪ 00:34 ♪ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ♪ ♪ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ♪ 00:45 ♪ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ♪ ♪ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ♪ 01:07 >> HELLO AND WELCOME TO 3ABN "TODAY LIVE." 01:11 WE ARE EXCITED THAT YOU COULD JOIN US THIS EVENING. 01:14 WE HAVE A POWERFUL, POWERFUL PROGRAM PLANNED FOR YOU TONIGHT, 01:19 AND I'M HERE WITH MY WONDERFUL BROTHER, PASTOR RYAN DAY. 01:24 >> YES, SIR. IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE MAN. 01:26 >> YES, SIR. IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE. 01:30 THE TOPIC IS GOING TO BE JESUS ON PROPHECY. 01:32 >> AMEN. >> JESUS ON PROPHECY. 01:37 RYAN WHY DON'T YOU INTRODUCE OUR GUESTS. 01:39 >> YEAH, WE HAVE THE DIRECTOR OF EVANGELISM AND ASSOCIATE 01:44 MINISTERIAL DIRECTOR OF THE MICHIGAN CONFERENCE, PASTOR WES 01:48 PEPPER. AND SITTING TO HIS RIGHT IS 01:51 ELDER ROYCE SNYMAN, WHO IS THE MINISTERIAL DIRECTOR FOR THE 01:55 MICHIGAN CONFERENCE, AND WE HAVE PASTOR DARRYL BENTLEY WHO IS THE 01:59 PASTOR OF THE METROPOLITAN SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH IN 02:05 DETROIT, MICHIGAN. IT'S A PLEASURE TO HAVE ALL OF 02:11 YOU. >> IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE. 02:14 >> BEFORE WE JUMP INTO JESUS ON PROPHECY. 02:20 WE HAVE A SONG BY PAM LISTER. IT IS ENTITLED "ROCK OF AGES." 02:36 ♪ ROCK OF AGES ♪ ♪ KEPT FOR ME ♪ 02:47 ♪ LET THE WATER IN THE GLASS ♪ ♪ 03:42 ♪ >> WOW, WHAT A WONDERFUL SONG. 04:39 >> PRAISE THE LORD. >> BEAUTIFUL SONG. 04:43 PASTOR BENTLEY, I WAS AT YOUR CHURCH -- 04:46 >> YES. . 04:47 >> -- ONE TIME IN MICHIGAN WITH MY GIRLFRIEND, AND YOU TOLD A 04:53 CHILDREN'S STORY THAT REALY BLEW ME -- A CHILDREN'S STORY 04:56 THAT BLEW ME AWAY. >> YEAH. 04:58 >> AND SINCE WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT EVANGELISM AND ALL 05:02 OF THAT STUFF, CHILDREN AREN'T EXCLUDED FOR BEING -- SHARING 05:06 THE GOSPEL WITH THEM. CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT 05:10 ABOUT THAT CHILDREN'S STORY? GIVE US A DEMONSTRATION? 05:13 >> WELL, SINCE YOU ASKED, I'M HAPPY TO SHARE WITH YOU. 05:17 I LOVE DOING CHILDREN'S STORY. I LOVE BEING ABLE TO CONNECT 05:21 WITH OUR YOUNG PEOPLE. AND MY FATHER-IN-LAW IS A 05:26 PROLIFIC STORY TELLER, AND I'M ALWAYS TRYING TO MINE HIM FOR 05:30 NEW STORIES. AND THEY CAME TO VISIT ONE TIME, 05:36 AND HE SAID I HAVE A NEW STORY. AND HE SAID THE PREMISE OF THE 05:41 STORY IS ASKING THE YOUNG PEOPLE, DO YOU WANT TO GO ON A 05:45 JOURNEY? AND THE ULTIMATE JOURNEY WE CAN 05:48 GO ON AS CHRISTIANS THAT JOURNEY TO HEAVEN. 05:51 SO YOU ASK THE KIDS, HOW DO I GET TO HEAVEN? 05:55 SO YOU USE THE PIECE OF PAPER AND START FOLDING. 05:59 AND THE FIRST FOLDING IS TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT SOMEWHAT 06:04 RESEMBLES A SAILBOAT. AND ASK THE CHILDREN, CAN YOU 06:08 USE A SAILBOAT TO GET TO HEAVEN? OH, NO. 06:13 WHY NOT? SAILBOATS DON'T FLY. 06:16 OH, THAT'S A GREAT POINT. SO SINCE SAILBOATS DON'T FLY, 06:21 WHY DON'T WE USE SOMETHING THAT DOES FLY. 06:27 SO WE MAKE ANOTHER FOLD, AND YOU CREATE SOMETHING THAT SOMEWHAT 06:32 RESEMBLES AN AIRPLANE. AND YOU SAY CAN I NOW USE THIS 06:37 SAILBOAT TO FLY TO HEAVEN, TO GET TO WHERE JESUS IS. 06:40 OH, NO, YOU CAN'T USE AN AIR 06:46 AIRPLANE. WELL WHY NOT? 06:49 AIRPLANES DON'T FLY HIGH ENOUGH. OH, THAT'S A GREAT POINT. 06:53 SO THEN THE FINAL THING I LIKE TO SHOW THEM IS WELL, MAYBE WE 07:01 CAN USE A ROCKET SHIP. SO NOW WE HAVE A ROCKET SHIP 07:05 KIND OF. WILL A ROCKET SHIP GET ME TO 07:12 HEAVEN? AND THE ANSWER IS NO. 07:17 BECAUSE REALLY THE ONLY WAY THAT I WILL FIND MY WAY TO HEAVEN -- 07:20 >> OH, WOW. >> IS THROUGH THE CROSS OF JESUS 07:26 CHRIST. >> PRAISE THE LORD. 07:28 >> SO IF YOU WANT THAT JOURNEY TO HEAVEN, THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE-JESUS AND YOU HAVE TO FIND 07:33 YOURSELF AT THE FOOT OF THE CROSS. 07:36 SO THAT'S MY LITTLE STORY. >> PRAISE THE LORD. 07:39 THAT STORY BLEW ME AWAY. PASTOR WES IS EVANGELISM 07:44 IMPORTANT? >> I BELIEVE IT IS. 07:46 WE IN MICHIGAN BELIEVE JESUS IS COMING SOON, AND IF A PERSON IS 07:51 A SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST THEY HAVE TO HAVE THAT CONVICTION IN 07:53 THEIR HEARTS. AND WE SEE ALL OF THE PROPHECIES 07:58 POINTING TO THE TIMES WE'RE LIVING IN NOW. 08:02 AND WE REALIZE THAT CHRIST IS THE PERSON, THE TRUTH, AND THE 08:05 WAY TO HEAVEN -- >> RIGHT. 08:08 >> -- BUT ULTIMATELY THAT CHRIST IS THE SOON-COMING KING. 08:14 HE IS COMING AGAIN VERY SOON AS CONCURRING KING, SO IN MICHIGAN 08:20 IT'S OUR MISSION TO TELL MICHIGAN AND THE WORLD THAT 08:23 JESUS DIED FOR THEM, BUT ALSO THAT HE IS COMING BACK. 08:27 >> ABSOLUTELY. >> AMEN. 08:30 >> DO YOU THINK THAT EVANGELISM STILL WORKS? 08:32 >> YOU HEAR THAT QUESTION ALL THE TIME. 08:34 WOE DON'T SEE THE RESULTS THAT WE USED TO SEE. 08:37 WE DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE COMING TO OUR MEETINGS 08:41 AND SO FORTH. AND I ALWAYS LIKE TO SAY 08:43 EVANGELISM WORKS IF YOU WORK IT. >> THAT'S RIGHT. 08:46 >> AND I THINK THAT MANY TIMES PEOPLE AREN'T SEEING THE RESULTS 08:49 BECAUSE WE'RE NOT AS DEDICATED AND LABORING FOR SOULS LIKE THE 08:57 CHURCH ONCE DID. JUST A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WE -pDID A CONFERENCE-WIDE EVANGELISM 09:04 SERIES CALLED UNLOCK REVELATION. AND OUR DIRECTOR WAS REALLY THE 09:09 ONE THAT ORCHESTRATED THAT. BUT I THINK WE ACTUALLY HAVE A 09:13 GRAPHIC THAT SHOWS WHAT OUR HAND BILL LOOKED LIKE, AND OUR BILL 09:19 BOARD, AND SO FORTH. BUT WE DID THIS STATEWIDE. 09:24 AND WE ACTUALLY HAD ON OPENING WEEKEND, OVER 5,000 09:30 NON-SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISTS THAT CAME THOSE MEETINGS. 09:32 >> WOW. >> AND WE HAD 10,000 MEMBERS 09:40 THAT ATTENDED. WE HAD OVER -- BETWEEN THE TWO 09:43 TIMES THAT WE DID IT, OVER 150 LAY PEOPLE THAT PREACHED. 09:49 WE HAD 150 SITES THAT WERE HOSTING AN UNLOCK REVELATIONS 09:56 SITE, SO IT WAS REALLY PROFOUND, AND I FELT LIKE THAT WAS A HUGE 10:02 DEMONSTRATION THAT EVANGELISM STILL WORKS. 10:04 AND WE HAD SEVERAL HUNDRED FOLKS THAT GAVE THEIR LIVES TO THE 10:07 LORD AND CAME INTO THE CHURCH THROUGH THAT. 10:09 SO I WANTED TO SHARE A STORY ABOUT ONE PARTICULAR MAN THAT 10:14 CAME TO THE SITE. HIS NAME IS MAN. 10:18 AND WE HAVE A PICTURE OF HIM. HE ATTENDED THE SERIES BECAUSE 10:23 OF A FIRE -- FLIER THAT CAME TO HIS HOUSE. 10:28 AND WHEN THE GOT THAT FLIER, WE HUSBAND DEPRESSED, SAD, HE WS 10:35 ADDICTED TO ALCOHOL AND A NUMBER OF TRAGEDIES AND ADDICTIONS IN 10:38 HIS LIFE. AND HE CAME TO THE MEETING 10:41 SAYING I AM LOOKING FOR HOPE. HE GREW UP IN ANOTHER 10:47 DENOMINATION, BUT HE DECIDED TO ATTEND MEETINGS. 10:53 HE CAME EVERY NIGHT. AND THE FIRST TIME I VISITED 10:58 DAN -- HE DIDN'T KNOW I WAS COMING. 11:01 WE OFTEN DO THAT, RIGHT? >> RIGHT. 11:04 >> SO I SHOWED UP AT HIS HOUSE. AND HIS ROOMMATE SAID YOU CAN 11:08 FIND HIM OUT BACK. SO I WENT OUT BACK, AND DAN WAS 11:13 SITTING THERE WITH A BEER IN HIS HAND, AND SEVERAL EMPTY BOTTLES, 11:18 AND HE BEGAN TO SHARE WITH ME THE BROKENNESS HE FACED IN HIS 11:23 LIFE, AND THE ADDICTION IN HIS LIFE, AND HE SAW NO RAY OF 11:29 SUNSHINE THAT COULD FREE HIM FROM THOSE THINGS, SO WE BEGAN 11:31 TO TALK ABOUT THE POWER OF CHRIST, AND HOW HE CAN TRANSFORM 11:35 THE HEART. AND I TOLD DAN IF YOU WILL GIVE 11:40 YOURSELF FULLY TO HIM, THE LORD JESUS CAN SET YOU FREE. 11:44 AND SO I MADE THAT APPEAL TO HIM, AND DAN BEGAN TO WEEP, AND 11:48 EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, HE HAD DRUNK ONE OR TWO ALCOHOL DRINKS, 11:57 STILL THE POWER OF THE GOSPEL BEGAN TO CONVICT HIS HEART. 12:02 AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE HE GAVE HIS LIFE TO CHRIST. 12:05 AND A COUPLE OF MONTHS LATER THE LORD BEGAN TO CLEAN UP HIS LIFE. 12:11 HE GOT VICTORY OVER ALCOHOL AND THE OTHER ADDICTIONS. 12:14 AND NOW HE GOES TO PRAYER -MEETING. HE PARTICIPATES EVERY SABBATH IN 12:19 CHURCH. HE IS BEGINNING TO HELP AND BE 12:22 INVOLVED, AND THE CHURCH IS PLANNING FOR ANOTHER OUTREACH AS 12:25 WELL, EVANGELISM SERIES, AND DAN IS GOING TO BE A PART OF THAT. 12:29 HE IS GOING TO BE WORKING TO TELL OTHERS ABOUT CHRIST. 12:32 SO I BELIEVE TODAY THAT EVANGELISM STILL WORKS, AND WE 12:36 SEE THE RESULTS ALL THE TIME. WE SEE PEOPLE'S LIVING BEING 12:41 TRANSFORMED BY THE PUBLIC PROCLAMATION OF THE GOSPEL. 12:44 AND I THINK YOU HAVE A STORY AS WELL ABOUT A YOUNG LADY. 12:48 >> WELL, ONE OF OUR EVANGELISTS IN MICHIGAN, DAN TOWER HAD HELD 12:53 A SERIES OF MEETINGS JUST BEFORE I GOT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE 12:58 SERIES, AND SO JUST A FEW MONTHS BEFORE, SHE MADE A 13:04 DECISION -- HER NAME IS KRISTEN. SHE HAS TWO YOUNG DAUGHTERS, AND 13:09 SHE IS JUST THAT PERSONALITY THAT IS JUST EXCITED AND WANTS 13:13 TO SHARE WITH OTHER PEOPLE AND PARTICIPATE. 13:15 AND WHEN I GOT THERE TO HOLD THE MEETING, SHE WAS ONE OF THOSE 13:19 INDIVIDUALS HELPING OUT IN MEETINGS. 13:23 SO SHE GOES FROM AN INDIVIDUAL THAT DOESN'T HAVE THAT 13:26 INFORMATION, THAT KNOWLEDGE, THAT CONNECTION WITH THE LORD, 13:28 AND SHE IS NOW EXCITED ABOUT HELPING TO SHARE. 13:32 AND THIS IS IN A CHURCH -- IT'S NOT A CHURCH YET AT THAT 13:35 PARTICULAR POINT, AND SHE WANTS TO SEE IT BECOME A CHURCH. 13:39 SHE IS READY TO DO HER PART. PEOPLE COME OUT THOSE MEETINGS, 13:43 AND IT'S THAT TRANSITION. IT'S THAT GROWTH PROCESS. 13:48 SHE IS SHARING WITH OTHER INDIVIDUALS. 13:50 ONE OF THE OTHER LADIES THAT CAME THERE, HER NAME IS KATE, 13:55 SHE CAME TO ME ONE DAY AND SAID I KNOW I FOUND THE TRUTH. 13:59 AND YOU SEE THAT LIGHT IN PEOPLE'S LIVES, AND YOU COULD 14:04 JUST TELL, YOU SEE THESE CHANGES IN PEOPLE'S LIVES FROM ONE PHASE 14:07 TO ANOTHER, AND ONE IS CONVERTED AND THEN SHE IS LEADING OTHER 14:10 PEOPLE AND HELPING OTHERS ALONG THE WAY. 14:14 IT'S EXCITING TO SEE. >> PASTOR, I THINK YOU HAD 14:19 SOMEONE TO SHARE ABOUT AS WELL. >> I DID. 14:23 YOU GUYS ASKED ABOUT ADVERTISING, AND WE'LL TALK MORE 14:26 ABOUT THAT LATER, BUT THERE IS POWER IN ADVERTISING, IN HAVING 14:30 BRAND RECOGNITION, AND SO WE STARTED UNLOCKING REVELATION 14:33 BACK IN THE DETROIT AREA, AND OF COURSE WHEN OUR LOCAL PASTOR, 14:37 WHO USED TO BE AT THE METRO CHURCH WHERE I AM NOW, WENT TO 14:41 THE CONFERENCE AND THEN BECAME UNLOCK REVELATION, WE'RE USING 14:45 THAT BRANDING SEVERAL TIMES OVER, AND SO A SIMILAR HAND BILL 14:49 CAME TO A PARTICULAR LADY'S HOUSE, HER NAME IS DEBBIE, 14:54 MULTIPLE TIMES. SO SHE SAW IT THE FIRST TIME, 14:57 KIND OF DISCARDED IT. SECOND TIME FELT INCLINED TO 15:02 COME AND CAME TO ONE MEETING. MANAGED TO SIT IN THE 15:06 BACKGROUND, WASN'T REAL NOTICED, IF YOU WILL. 15:10 BUT BY THE THIRD TIME SHE SEES THE HAND BILL, SHE COMES AND IS 15:15 AT A POINT IN HER LIFE OF FEELING DOWN, SOMEWHAT 15:19 DEPRESSED, LOOKING AND WONDERING IS THERE MORE TO LIFE? 15:23 IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE FOR ME? AND SHE CAME. 15:26 AND SHE STAYED IN THE MEETINGS FAITHFULLY. 15:30 PRAISE GOD THE LOCAL FOLKS CONNECTED WITH HER, MADE FRIENDS 15:34 WITH HER, MADE SURE SHE FELT IMPORTANT AS EVERY SOUL IS, AND 15:41 PRAISE GOD SHE MADE A DECISION FOR BAPTISM. 15:44 HE IS TOOK HER THROUGH A DISCIPLESHIP PROCESS, AND SHE 15:50 FAITHFULLY ATTENDS CHURCH EVERY SABBATH, EVEN TO THE POINT WHEN 15:56 SHOW WAS CHALLENGED ABOUT WORKING ON SABBATH, SHE STOOD UP 16:02 TO HER EMPLOYER AND SAID I WOULD RATHER LOSE MY JOB. 16:06 >> I JUT WANT TO ATTEST TO THAT, BECAUSE I'M JUST HEARING 16:09 THE THREE OF YOU, WHETHER IT'S AN INVITATION, HANDBILL, OR I 16:15 HAVES ACCUSATION, YOU HAD TO GO TO THESE PEOPLE AND EXTEND AN 16:18 INVITATION. AND THAT'S POWERFUL IN AND OF 16:21 ITSELF, BECAUSE PEOPLE'S LIVES CAN'T BE TRANSFORMED BY THE 16:25 GOSPEL UNTIL WE GO TO THEM AND SHARE JESUS WITH THEM. 16:29 AND THAT'S JUST, EVANGELISM IN THAT SENSE ALONE IS WORTH IT, 16:34 BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE PEOPLE COME TO YOU WITH THEIR PROBLEMS AND 16:38 STRUGGLES, AND THE ADVERSITY THEY MIGHT BE DEALING WITH IN 16:44 THEIR LIVES. >> THAT'S RIGHT. 16:46 >> AND ONE OTHER THING, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANOTHER AVENUE INTO 16:50 HER HOME EXCEPT THAT HAND BILL. NO KNOCKING ON HER DOOR WOULD 16:55 HAVE WORKED. NOBODY WORKED CLOSE TO HER. 16:58 NOBODY HAD A SPHERE OF INFLUENCE THAT CONNECTED WITH HER. 17:01 OUR HAND BILL WAS THE ONLY AVENUE THAT BROUGHT US INTO 17:04 CONTACT WITH HER. >> WOW. 17:05 >> AND YOU KNOW, GUYS, IN ADDITION TO THAT -- WE'RE GOING 17:09 TO TALK A LITTLE BIT HERE ABOUT THE POWER OF THE -- THE COMBINED 17:14 EFFORT OF PERSONAL AND PUBLIC EVANGELISM, BUT IT TAKES ALL OF 17:18 IT. AND I THINK THAT SOMETIMES 17:19 PEOPLE DON'T SEE THE RESULTS THEY WANT TO, BECAUSE THEY ARE 17:22 JUST DOING ONE OR THE OTHER. BUT I WANTED TO MENTION ANOTHER 17:28 STORY ABOUT A LITTLE CHURCH THAT I DID A SET OF MEETINGS FOR, AND 17:31 THIS CHURCH HAD THREE ATTENDING MEMBERS. 17:34 IT WAS ON THE VERGE OF CLOSING DOWN. 17:37 >> WOW. >> AND THEY ASKED ME TO COME TO 17:40 MEETING, AND I SAID, YEAH, I'LL HELP YOU, BECAUSE I WANTED TO BE 17:45 FAITHFUL. AND I PRAYED ABOUT IT, AND THE 17:47 LORD IMPRESSED ME. IT IS JUST A LITTLE BIT EAST OF 17:52 LANCING, MICHIGAN. SO WHEN I CAME INTO THE 17:55 CONFERENCE, THEY ASKED ME TO THE MEETINGS AND I SAID SURE. 17:59 AND SO I WENT THERE, AND WHEN YOU HAVE THREE ATTENDING 18:02 MEMBERS, THERE ARE CERTAIN AREAS YOU HAVE TO COVER. 18:06 REGISTRATION, GREETING, AND YOU REALLY WANT AT LEAST ONE PERSON 18:10 IN THE CHURCH WHEN PEOPLE COME IN, SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID. 18:13 WE HAD A COUPLE OF OTHER MEMBERS FROM OTHER CHURCHES THAT CAME 18:16 AND HELPED, BUT THIS LITTLE CHURCH WAS ABOUT TO CLOSE, AND I 18:21 BEGAN TO PRAY AND SAY, LORD, WE DON'T WANT TO CLOSE. 18:25 WE WANT TO STAY OPEN AND WHAT DO WE DO IN AND THEY DID SOME 18:29 OTHER THINGS AHEAD OF TIME, MINISTRY AND OUTREACHES AND SO 18:34 FORTH. BUT THEN IT CAME TIME FOR THE 18:36 MEETING. WHEN THE MEETING CAME, WE HAD 18:38 ALMOST 30 CHURCHES THAT FILLED THAT CHURCH. 18:41 SO WE WENT THROUGH THE SERIES, AND THERE WERE A NUMBER OF FOLKS 18:45 THAT MADE DECISIONS, AND THERE HAVE BEEN SOME BAPTISMS SINCE 18:49 THAT TIME, ABOUT FIVE BAPTISMS. >> WOW. 18:52 >> SO THE LITTLE CHURCH IS NOT WITHOUT STRUGGLES, EVERY LITTLE 18:56 CHURCH HAS THAT. BUT THEY ARE GROWING, AND THEY 18:59 ARE ON THE MOVE AND GOD HAS DONE SOMETHING FOR THEM. 19:05 IN FACT, WE HAVE AN INTERESTING STATEMENT FROM THE TESTIMONIES 19:07 THAT I WOULD LIKE TO READ. AND I BELIEVE WE THAT UP THERE. 19:11 IT TALKS ABOUT THE POWER OF PUBLIC EVANGELISM. 19:16 AND IT READS THIS: 19:54 SO THERE WE SEE THAT EVEN PUBLIC EVANGELISM WILL BE GOING ON 19:59 UNTIL JESUS COMES, THAT THE PUBLIC PROCLAMATION OF THE WORD 20:04 IS SO IMPORTANT IN THESE LAST DAYS THAT NOTHING ELSE 20:07 IS -- SHOULD BE ABSORBING OUR ATTENTION AS SEVENTH-DAY 20:10 ADVENTISTS. SO I THINK THAT'S KEY IN 20:13 UNDERSTANDING EVANGELISM IS GOD'S METHOD AT THE END OF TIME. 20:16 >> AMEN. >> ABSOLUTELY.-AMEN. 20:18 >> LET ME ASK YOU THIS, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ONLY PASTORS THAT 20:22 ARE TO TAKE THE GOSPEL TO THE WORLD. 20:25 >> THAT'S EXACTLY CORRECT. >> YOU NEED ALL OF THE MEMBERS 20:28 TO GET INVOLVED. >> YES. 20:30 IN TIMES PAST -- AND OUR CHURCH HAS DEVELOPED THIS MENTALITY, 20:33 THAT IT'S THE PASTOR'S JOB TO DO ALL OF THAT, BUT WHEN YOU REALLY 20:38 STUDY THE BIBLE, AND THE WRITINGS OF THE SPIRIT OF 20:42 PROPHECY, YOU SEE VERY CLEARLY THAT THE GREATER WORK IS TO BE 20:46 DONE BY THE LOCAL MEMBERS, NOT SIMPLY THE PASTOR OR A STAR 20:51 EVANGELIST COMING TO TOWN, BUT THAT GOD HAS A PERSONAL MINISTRY 20:55 FOR EVERY PERSON. >> AMEN. 20:57 >> SO IF THAT WORK IS GOING TO BE AS POWERFUL AS IT CAN BE, IT 21:01 IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE THE LAY PEOPLE RISING UP. 21:03 AND IN MICHIGAN WE HAVE SOMETHING CALLED THE TRAINING 21:07 CENTER CHURCH MODEL, WHERE WE EMPHASIZE JUST THAT. 21:10 AND MAYBE YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THAT FOR JUST A MINUTE. 21:13 >> WELL, WE ARE ANXIOUS TO FOLLOW THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY 21:25 AND THE WORD OF GOD THAT WE ARE ALL DISCIPLES. 21:30 AND ELLEN WHITE REMINDS US THAT EVERY CHURCH IS A TRAINING 21:34 CENTER. >> ABSOLUTELY. 21:35 >> THAT MEANS THAT THE CHURCH IS A SCHOOL, AND -- SHE ACTUALLY 21:39 USES THE WORD TRAINING SCHOOL, AND THE CHAPTER IS ENTITLED 21:43 TRAINING CENTERS, AND IT'S THE PLACE WHERE ALL OF OUR MEMBERS 21:48 ARE TO LEARN TO BE GIVERS OF THE TRUTH TO THE PEOPLE IN THE 21:52 COMMUNITY. AND THAT MEANS EVERYBODY -- IT 21:54 MEANS THE ELDER, THE DEACON, THE DEACONIST, EVERYBODY IS A 22:01 DISCIPLE FIRST, AND THEN THEY HAVE THE OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES. 22:04 AND THAT'S A MAJOR FOCUS FOR US IN MICHIGAN RIGHT NOW. 22:08 AND I KNOW ALL OF THE CHURCHES AROUND THE COUNTRY ARE WANTING 22:13 TO DO THE SAME THING. >> SURE. 22:16 >> OUR CHURCH IS SO BEAUTIFULLY SET UP, THAT THE STRUCTURE OF 22:19 THE CHURCH IS ALREADY GIVEN TO US FROM THE LORD -- THE 22:22 SCRIPTURE AND THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY, BUT ALSO THE CHURCH 22:32 MANUAL. SO OUR CHURCHES -- YOU KNOW, IN 22:34 OUR CHURCHES WE WANT OUR ELDERS TO BE TRAINED TO OVERSEE THE 22:39 WORK THAT GOING ON THERE. WE WANT OUR DEPARTMENTAL LEADERS 22:43 TO BE TRAINED. THAT THEY ARE NOT JUST THERE TO 22:47 NUTURE THE CHURCH, BUT THEY ARE EVERY DEPARTMENT OF THE CHURCH, 22:50 WHETHER IT'S WOMEN'S MINISTRIES OR PATH FINDERS OR WHOEVER, THAT 22:56 EVERY AREA AND DEPARTMENT OF THE CHURCH NEEDS TO HAVE A 23:00 SOUL-WINNING UNIT -- IT NEEDS TO BE A SOUL-WINNING UNIT, AND A 23:05 SOUL-WINNING COMPONENT IT TO, SO THAT EVERY MEMBER IN EVERY 23:09 DEPARTMENT IS REACHING OUT TO SOULS AROUND THEM. 23:12 AND WE ARE THEN COMING TOGETHER AS A CHURCH -- 23:14 >> RIGHT. >> TO DO THAT PUBLIC 23:18 PROCLAMATION OF THE GOSPEL. AND IT TAKES EVERY MEMBER OF THE 23:22 CHURCH TO MAKE THAT SUCCESSFUL. >> AND I FEEL LIKE THAT IS 23:27 SOMETHING THE MICHIGAN CONFERENCE DOES VERY WELL. 23:29 I HAPPENED TO HAVE AN INSIDE SCOOP IN THE MICHIGAN 23:34 CONFERENCE. AND SHE TELLS ME ABOUT THE 23:36 DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON, AND HOW EVERYBODY IS GETTING 23:41 INVOLVED. >> YES. 23:41 >> JUST A QUICK OBSERVATION, IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE EVERYBODY 23:45 INVOLVED BECAUSE EVANGELISM IS NOT JUST ONE EVENT. 23:48 IT'S A WHOLE PROCESS. >> ABSOLUTELY. 23:52 >> BUT THAT'S WHY EVERYBODY IS INVOLVED. 23:54 >> RIGHT. >> AND -- AND WHEN WE BEGIN TO 23:56 SEE THAT PROCESS EVOLVE IN THE LOCAL CHURCH, WE SEE MORE PEOPLE 24:02 REACH FOR THE GOSPEL. >> ABSOLUTELY. 24:04 I'M THINKING OF -- YOU MENTIONED WE AS SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISTS, I 24:08 KNOW THIS VERY NETWORK, THE THREE ANGELS BROADCASTING 24:18 NETWORK, WE ARE TO SPREAD THE GOSPEL ACROSS THE GLOBE. 24:24 AND MY QUESTION IS MINISTERIAL WISE AND PASTORAL WISE, YOU DEAL 24:30 WITH SOMETIMES THAT MENTALITY OF WE WOULD LIKE TO DO EVANGELISM, 24:35 BUT IT DOESN'T WORK ANYMORE. BUT WE KNOW WE NEED EVANGELISM, 24:40 SO FROM A MINISTERIAL PERSPECTIVE, HOW DO YOU GET 24:44 EVERYONE INVOLVED? WHAT MEASURES DO YOU TAKE IN 24:48 THIS PARTICULAR -- >> I'M GOING TO LET OUR DIRECTOR 24:51 TALK ABOUT THAT. [ LAUGHTER ] 24:52 >> I'LL TAG IN THERE. >> WELL, IT'S -- IT'S A MATTER 24:56 OF HELPING OUR PASTORS, FIRST OF ALL, TO BE REMINDED THAT IT'S 25:01 NOT JUST THEIR JOB. >> SURE. 25:03 >> THEY GET THAT. THEY UNDERSTAND THAT. 25:05 BUT WE WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT WE BELIEVE THAT AS THE LEADERSHIP 25:09 LEVEL, AND THEN TO SHARE WITH THE CHURCH MEMBERS AS WELL. 25:13 DON'T HAVE TIME TODAY TO TALK ABOUT A WHOLE OTHER PROJECT 25:16 WE'RE WORKING ON AT HOME -- >> YEAH. 25:18 >> BUT WE HAVE BROKEN INTO GEOGRAPHICAL DISTRICTS IN 25:23 MICHIGAN, AND ONE OF OUR DISTRICTS -- ESPECIALLY, WE'RE 25:29 GOING TO EVERY SINGLE CHURCH AND MEETING WITH THEM AND THEIR 25:33 BOARDS, AND SPENDING THE WHOLE YEAR REMINDING THEM OF THOSE 25:37 VERY FACT FACTS, JASON, AND I'M SEEING LIGHTS COME ON IN ELDER'S 25:43 EYES, AD MEMBERS EYES, AS THEY BEGIN TO REALIZE THEY ARE A PART 25:49 OF THIS WHOLE PROCESS, AND THEN I THINK THAT HELPS THE PROCESS. 25:53 AND ONE DAY WE'LL GET DOWN TO YOUR AREA, BROTER. 25:57 >> HAPPY TO HAVE YOU. [ LAUGHTER ] 25:59 >> IS IF THERE IS ONE THING WE COULD TAG INTO THAT. 26:03 I THINK ABOUT -- WE HAS PASTORS MOVE.-WE ARE A TRANSIENT GROUP BY JUST 26:08 THE NATURE OF MINISTRY. AND ONE THING I REALLY 26:11 APPRECIATE IS WHEN I LOOK AT MY MINISTERIAL TEAM, THAT'S 26:21 CONTINUITY FOR THE CHURCH. I MAY COME AND GO AT SOME 26:25 POINT -- LET ME KNOW WHEN THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN, I DON'T LIKE 26:28 SURPRISES -- BUT THAT CONTINUITY OF THETURE. 26:33 IN MISSION IS OURS. THIS ISN'T JUST THE LATEST 26:37 MANDATE OR PROGRAM TO BE HANDED DOWN FROM THE CONFERENCE OR, 26:40 WELL, THIS PASTOR WANTS THIS, AND THE NEXT PASTOR THAT COMES 26:44 ALONG IS GOING TO WANT THIS. IT GIVES THEM THAT CONTINUITY 26:50 THAT THIS MISSION OF SOUL WINNING IS WHY WE EXIST, SO I 26:54 APPRECIATE THAT AS A PASTOR THAT MY MINISTERIAL DEPARTMENT IS 26:58 PRESSING THAT. >> AMEN. 27:00 >> OUR EVANGELISM COORDINATOR DOES SO MUCH TRAINING WITH LAY 27:05 PEOPLE. >> I KNOW WE'RE LEADWAYING INTO 27:07 THIS, BUT EVANGELISM IS A PROCESS. 27:10 WE KNOW THAT. SO THERE IS A PARTICULAR 27:13 APPROPRIATE CYCLE THAT -- THAT SHOULD BE APPROACHED 27:15 WHEN -- WHEN YOU ARE DEALING WITH EVANGELISM. 27:17 I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO SAY 27:21 ABOUT THAT, OR -- >> YES, THERE IS. 27:23 I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE OTHER COMMENT BEFORE THAT. 27:28 WHEN THE LAY PEOPLE THINK ABOUT THE LOCAL PASTOR OR CHURCH, THEY 27:32 ASSUME THAT THAT PASTOR BELONGS TO THE CHURCH. 27:34 BUT REALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CHURCH MANUAL, THE PASTOR IS A 27:38 REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CONFERENCE THERE. 27:40 SO THE PASTOR IS NOT THERE TO DO THE WORK OF THE CHURCH. 27:44 IT IS THERE TO ORGANIZE THE WORK OF THE CHURCH. 27:47 AND IT HAS BEEN -- IT IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE THE WORK OF THE 27:51 LOCAL CHURCH TO PLAN THEIR -- THEIR -- THE OUTREACH 27:53 INTO THE COMMUNITY AND THEIR EVANGELISM, SO WE DON'T 27:58 WANT -- YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT THE PASTOR GOING IN THERE LAYING 28:02 PLANS. WE WANT THE PATOR TO GUIDE THE 28:04 PLANS THAT THE CHURCH MAKES, THAT WAY IF THAT PASTOR DOES 28:09 MOVE OR GOES TO ANOTHER PLACE, THE WORK OF THE CHURCH CAN CARRY 28:14 ON, BECAUSE THE HAVE THE PLAN THAT THEY HAVE MADE AND THE LORD 28:17 HAS GIVEN THEM. >> AND DO YOU THINK THAT HELP 28:20 WITH THE LEVEL OF COMMITMENT? >> YES, ABSOLUTELY. 28:24 ABSOLUTELY. >> THERE'S NO QUESTION. 28:25 >> SO IN THIS PROJECT THAT I WAS GOING TO MENTION, WE'RE SEEING 28:29 THE CHURCH BEGIN TO REALIZE THIS, THE ROLE OF THE PASTOR, 28:32 THE ROLE OF THE MEMBER, BECAUSE WE LIVE IN KIND OF A SPECIALIST 28:36 WORLD WHERE I HAVE A DOCTOR THAT TAKES CARE OF MY HEALTH NEEDS, A 28:42 DENTIST THAT TAKES CARE OF MY TEETH, AND THEN I HAVE THE 28:45 PASTOR THAT TAKES CARE OF THE SPIRITUAL PIECE. 28:48 WE WANT THE PEOPLE TO SEE THAT WE'RE ALL MINISTERS. 28:51 THAT WE'RE ALL PRIESTS, THAT GOD WANTS US -- NOT THE ROLE OF 28:56 PASTORS, BUT EVERY PERSON IS CALLED TO THE LABOR OF THE LORD. 29:00 SO IT'S A PROCESS THAT JESUS CAVE IN THE BIBLE, THE 29:04 EVANGELISM CYCLE, WHERE WE HAVE FIVE PHASES TO THE CYCLE, AND HE 29:09 USES THE AGRICULTURAL MODEL TO DO THAT. 29:12 SO THOSE FIVE PHASES -- I BELIEVE WE HAVE A GRAPHIC ON 29:16 THAT, BUT THE FIVE PHASES ARE PREPARING THE SOIL. 29:21 ANY TIME YOU WANT TO PLANT, YOU WANT TO PREPARE THE SOIL. 29:24 THEN YOU WANT TO PLANT THE SEED, AND YOU WANT ALSO TO CULTIVATE 29:29 THAT SPEED ONCE IT SPROUTS, AND THEN AS IT GROWS, EVENTUALLY 29:37 THERE IS FRUIT, AND YOU ARE GOING TO HARVEST THAT AND AFTER 29:41 YOU HARVEST, YOU WANT TO PRESERVE IT. 29:43 AND THERE ARE A LOT OF CHURCHES THAT ARE BUSY, AND REALLY, THIS 29:47 GROW MODEL WAS INITIATED IN MICHIGAN, BUT IT HAS NOW GROWN 29:51 TO A WORLD CONFERENCE INITIATIVE. 29:54 JIM HOWARD IS NOW AT THE GENERAL CONFERENCE, AND HE IS THE 29:59 PERSONAL ASSOCIATE IN PERSONAL MINISTRIES THERE, AND HE IS 30:02 DOING IT. AND THERE IS A WEBSITE, 30:09 GROW.ADVENTIST.ORG THAT PEOPLE CAN GO TO. 30:11 SO THESE FIVE PHASES ARE CRUCIAL IF A CHURCH WANT TOSS BE 30:16 SUCCESSFUL. IF YOU ARE JUST PLANTING SEEDS 30:19 WITHOUT PREPARING THE SOIL, THEN YOU ARE GOING TO GET A LOT OF 30:24 STUFF YOU DON'T WANT. YOU CAN ALSO GO OUT THERE AND 30:28 JUST PLOW ALL DAY LONG, AND YOU CAN KEEP PLOWING OVER AND OVER 30:32 AGAIN AND NEVER PLANT SEEDS. SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES OF 30:38 MINISTRY. >> RIGHT. 30:38 >> CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF MINISTRY THAT 30:42 GOES ALONG WITH EACH PHASE. >> IN PREPARING THE SOIL, 30:47 OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE GOT TO DO SOMETHING THAT REACHES PEOPLE, 30:49 AND BEGINS TO CONNECT WITH THEM. IT MAY BE HEALTH EVENT, OR A 30:55 VACATION BIBLE SCHOOL. SO MANY TIMES WE DO VACATION 30:59 BIBLE SCHOOL AS AN EVENT, AND THEN DON'T FOLLOW UP WITH IT, 31:03 BUT WE HAVE PLANTED SEED, AND THAT IS THE NEXT PHASE OF IT. 31:07 YOU HAVE GOT THE PEOPLE THERE, YOU PREPARED THE SOIL ENOUGH TO 31:10 GET THEM THERE, THEN YOU BEGIN TO PLANT THE SEED AND TEACHING 31:15 THEM TRUTH. AT A HEALTH CLASS THEY MAY LEARN 31:19 ABOUT PHYSICAL HEALTH AND SPIRITUAL COMPONENTS, AND THEN 31:24 YOU FIGURE OUT HOW TO CONNECT WITH THEM. 31:27 BACK TO THE VACATION BIBLE SCHOOL PROGRAM, YOU CAN FOLLOW 31:32 UP WITH A STORY HOUR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 31:36 NOW YOU ARE CULTIVATING THAT RELATIONSHIP, DEVELOPING THAT 31:39 SEED AND IT BEGINS TO GERMINATE AND GROW. 31:42 THROUGH THE KIDS YOU ARE REACHING THE PARENTS. 31:44 THE PARENTS ARE GETTING CONNECTED WITH THIS ALL. 31:49 AND WHETHER IT'S A HEALTH CLASS OR WHATEVER THAT WE ARE 31:54 CONTINUING THIS CULTIVATION, AND THEN WE GET INTO HARVESTING. 31:57 AND HARVESTING IS THAT OUTREACH EVENT, MAYBE IT'S JESUS ON 32:01 PROPHECY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND THAT EVENTUALLY LEADS US 32:05 TO -- ONCE WE HAVE HARVESTED, NOW WE WANT TO BEGIN TO 32:11 REDEVELOP THAT CYCLE. WE WANT TO PRESERVE THE HARVEST 32:15 BY DISCIPLING THOSE NEW MEMBERS, AND THAT LEADS US INTO A 32:20 DISCIPLESHIP PHASE, YOU CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THAT IN A MOMENT. 32:26 BUT THAT'S THAT FULL CYCLE WHERE WE SIT DOWN AND START TEACHING 32:29 THEM INDIVIDUALLY HOW TO BE A DISCIPLE THEMSELVES. 32:32 >> I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU GUYS TO TOUCH ON THE PRESERVATION ASPECT 32:36 OF IT. BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF TIMES 32:39 WHAT HAPPENS IS PEOPLE GO OUT. THEY WIN SOULS FOR CHRIST. 32:43 THEY GET THEM INTO THE CHURCH, BUT THEN SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T 32:48 EMBRACE THEM AS THEY COME IN. A VISITOR CAN COME, AND NOBODY 32:52 EVEN CAME UP TO THEM. SO TOUCH ON THE PRESERVATION 32:56 PIECE, AND WHY THAT'S THAT IS SO IMPORTANT. 32:58 >> THAT PERSONAL MENTORSHIP IS SO IMPORTANT AFTER A PERSON IS 33:02 BAPTIZED. THEY COME INTO THE CHURCH, AND 33:04 THEY ARE THINKING, I HAVE HEARD ALL OF THESE WONDERFUL TRUTHS. 33:08 I HAVE GIVEN MY LIFE TO CHRIST. I HAVE BEEN APP -- BAPTIZED, BUT 33:16 NOW WHAT? A LOT OF TIMES THERE IS A LOT OF 33:20 EFFORT BRINGING A PERSON INTO THE CHURCH, BUT ONCE THEY ARE 33:25 BAPTIZED, THEN THEY LEAVE THEM ALONE. 33:27 NOW YOU ARE A CHURCH MEMBER SO YOU SHOULD KNOW EVERYBODY THAT 33:30 YOU NEED TO DO NOW, AND OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT THE CASE. 33:34 ANYONE THAT HA COME INTO THE CHURCH UNDERSTANDS THAT THERE IS 33:37 A LOT OF GROWTH THAT TAKES PLACE AFTER BAPTISM, SO THAT 33:42 MENTORSHIP IS SO IMPORTANT, THAT THE PERSON HAS SPIRITUAL -FRIENDS. 33:46 THEY HAVE A MENTOR. NOW IN MICHIGAN, AND I -- YOU 33:49 KNOW, I -- I WAS SOMEWHAT A PART OF THIS PROCESS, BUT THERE WAS A 33:54 COMMITTEE THAT DEVELOPED A DISCIPLESHIP HANDBOOK AND HAS 33:59 THE A MENTOR'S GUIDE WITH IT, AND IT GOES THROUGH, BASICALLY, 34:04 EVERY WEEK THAT MENTOR AND THAT NEW MEMBER HAVE A MEETING 34:07 TOGETHER. >> RIGHT. 34:08 >> AND THEY WILL VISIT TOGETHER. THEY HAVE A CHAPTER THAT THEY 34:12 READ A THEN THEY -- THEY TALK ABOUT THAT CHAPTER, AND THERE 34:16 ARE SPECIFIC GOALS FOR THAT PERSON EVERY WEEK, AND THE 34:19 MENTOR HAS A JOB TO, LIKE, CONNECT THAT PERSON WITH A 34:24 FAMILY IN THE CHURCH, MAYBE FOR A SABBATH DINNER OR WALK OR 34:29 THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, AND IT'S A REALLY POWERFUL PROCESS. 34:34 AND THAT IS NOW A GENERAL CONFERENCE RESOURCE. 34:36 AND PEOPLE CAN GET THAT THROUGH THE GENERAL CONFERENCE. 34:40 IT'S AVAILABLE AT THE ABC, ANYBODY CAN GET IT. 34:44 BUT IT'S VERY POWERFUL. SO WE HAVE DEVELOPED THAT WE ARE 34:47 SOURCE THAT IS VERY, VERY, I THINK, SPECIFIC IN HELPING THAT 34:52 PERSON GROW AS A NEW MEMBER. HELPING THEM UNDERSTAND THEIR 34:57 ROLE AS A NEW MEMBER. ACTUALLY BECOMING A MISSIONARY 35:01 THEMSELVES, AND TALKS ABOUT JANUARY -- EVANGELISM, AND 35:09 CHURCH HISTORY. >> I LOVE THAT GOAL-ORIENTED 35:13 APPROACH. >> AMEN. 35:14 >> I JUST WANT TO TAG ON THAT. AT -- ONE OF THOSE KEY 35:19 COMPONENTS THERE, AND YOU JUST ALLUDEDED IT TO, IS THAT 35:25 PERSONAL DEVOTIONAL DEVICE. PEOPLE WILL STAY WHEN THEY ARE 35:29 CONNECTED WITH CHRIST. AND TOGETHER WITH ALL OF THOSE 35:33 COMPONENTS, THEY BECOME REAL DISCIPLES. 35:36 THAT'S THE PRESERVATION. >> AND ELDER JIM HOWARD WAS THE 35:40 PRIMARY AUTHOR, ELDER RINGSTAFF, ELDER [ INAUDIBLE ] IS OUR 35:47 PERSONAL MINISTRIES DIRECTOR NOW, AND OUR EXECUTIVE 35:52 CONFERENCE SECRETARY, AND THERE WERE OTHERS INVOLVED, BUT THOSE 35:58 GUYS REALLY DROVE THAT, AND IT'S A BEAUTIFUL THING. 36:01 >> AMEN. PASTOR BENTLEY, I HAVE HAD MANY 36:05 PHONE CALLS FROM PASTORS CALL ME UP AS AN EVANGELIST AND SAY, 36:09 HEY, WE'RE RIPE AND READY FOR AN EVANGELISTIC SERIES. 36:15 IT'S ABOUT TIME TO DO THAT AGAIN, AND, YOU KNOW, AS I BEGIN 36:19 TO TALK WITH THEM AND ASK QUESTIONS, I FIND THAT -- YOU 36:23 KNOW, NOT ALL -- BUT MANY -- MANY CHURCHES -- IT'S 36:26 KIND OF LIKE AN EXPECTATION. LIKE THIS IS JUST WHAT WE'RE 36:30 SUPPOSED TO DO, BUT THEY SKIP STEP ONE, TWO, AND THREE. 36:34 THERE IS NO PREPARATION, PLANTING, OR CULTIVATING, BUT 36:38 THEY ARE RIPE AND READY TO ACCEPT THAT HARVEST, AND AS A 36:42 PASTOR, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU DO TO GET THE LOCAL CHURCH INVOLVED 36:46 IN AND HOW DO YOU ENCOURAGE THEM? 36:48 I KNOW THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES AS 36:52 PASTOR? >> IT CERTAINLY IS. 36:53 AND THE CHALLENGE IS, IT'S NOT AN EASY ANSWER OR SHORT ANSWER. 36:57 BUT I THINK JUST RECOGNIZING THAT EVERYBODY CAN DO SOMETHING. 37:00 >> RIGHT. >> RIGHT? 37:01 AND NOT MAKING THE ASSUMPTION -- YOU KNOW, JUST AS 37:05 YOU I THINK ABOUT THE BODY. THE EAR DOESN'T DO THE SAME 37:09 THING AS A FOOT. RIGHT? 37:12 SO RECOGNIZING THAT EVERYBODY CAN DO SOMETHING -- 37:14 >> ABSOLUTELY. >> -- AND THEN WORKING WITH THE 37:18 CONGREGATION, WORKING WITH THE MEMBERS, BUILDING THOSE 37:21 RELATIONSHIPS, AS A PASTOR, JUST LIKE THE SHEPHERD WITH THE 37:28 SHEEP, IF I DON'T SPEND TIME WITH THEM, THEY DON'T KNOW THAT 37:32 I LOVE THEM. SO MY APPROACH, AND I THINK MANY 37:35 OTHERS PROBABLY DO THE SAME THING. 37:37 GET TO KNOW YOUR PEOPLE, AND FIND WAYS FOR THEM TO SERVE. 37:41 ONE LADY THAT IS JUST INCREDIBLE TO ME AT OUR METRO CHURCH, SHE 37:46 HAS JUST A BURNING PASSION TO PASS OUT GLOW TRACKS. 37:50 AND WE ALL KNOW THAT GLOW TRACKS -- IT'S NOT HARD TO 37:54 CARRY. ESPECIALLY SOME OF THE CARRY ON 37:58 LUGGAGE THAT MANY LADIES HAVE WITH THEM AT ALL TIMES, THEY 38:03 HAVE PLENTY OF ROOM FOR GLOW TRACKS. 38:07 THIS LADY AND HER HUSBAND HAVE PASSED OUT OVER 30,000 GLOW 38:12 TRACKS. ANN DOESN'T DRIVE, SO SHE MAKES 38:14 HER DAD DRIVE HER AROUND, AND THEY GO ALL OVER THE METRO 38:19 DETROIT AREA, AND THEY -- YOU CAN'T STOP THEM. 38:23 AND I KNOW WHEN WE ARE GETTING LOW. 38:26 BECAUSE SHE WILL CALL ME. WE'RE LOW ON THIS GLOW TRACK. 38:29 WHEN ARE YOU GETTING THIS GLOW TRACK? 38:32 AND I'M LIKE, CALL OUR COORDINATOR. 38:35 SO PRAISE GOD. >> YEAH. 38:37 >> FIND SOMETHING FOR EVERYBODY. AND THAT'S HER THING, AND SHE 38:41 DOES IT WELL, AND GOD BLESS HER SOUL. 38:43 >> AND I KNOW EVEN FROM A CONFERENCE PERSPECTIVE, GOD HAS 38:48 BLESSED OUR CHURCH WITH THE FUNDS AND THE ABILITY TO DO THIS 38:51 PUBLIC EVANGELISM, AND IT IS -- IT COSTS MONEY, AND IT'S 38:54 NOT CHEAP, YOU KNOW, TO DO THESE TYPE OF EFFORTS. 38:57 I JUST RECENTLY HEARD OF A CONFERENCE THAT I HAVE DONE MANY 39:02 EVANGELISTIC SERIES IN, THEY HAVE TAKEN A MORE DIRECT 39:06 APPROACH OF BEFORE THEY LEND THE FUNDS, THEY MAKE SURE THAT EACH 39:11 CHURCH HAS AN EVANGELIST PLAN A YEAR IN ADVANCE BEFORE THEY 39:15 START HANDING OUT MONEY. AND I WAS REALLY APPRECIATIVE TO 39:19 HEAR THAT. AND I'M EXCITED FOR WHAT IS 39:21 HAPPENING IN THE MICHIGAN CONFERENCE. 39:24 >> PRAISE THE LORD. >> WE BELIEVE IN PUBLIC 39:27 EVANGELISM, BUT WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT IS JUST ONE OF 39:30 THE FIVE PHASE OF AN OVERALL CYCLE. 39:33 >> THAT'S TRUE. >> AND WE HAVE THIS MOTTO, GROW 39:37 MICHIGAN, AND THAT'S OUR EVANGELISM CYCLE, THE FIVE 39:41 PHASES. >> AMEN. 39:42 >> AND WE HAVE PHASES THAT WE IMPLEMENT IN EACH ONE. 39:48 AND ONE OF THOSE IS BIBLESTUDYOFFER.COM. 39:55 AND PEOPLE CAN GO ONLINE AND REQUEST BIBLE STUDIES, AND WE 39:59 HAVE LITERATURE THAT WE PASS OUT TO PEOPLE, AND THEN THEY GO 40:03 ONLINE TO SIGN UP FOR BIBLE STUDIES. 40:06 WE HAVE HAD -- IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS OR SO, WE HAVE HAD OVER 40:10 7,000 REQUESTS FOR BIBLE STUDIES. 40:13 >> PRAISE GOD. >> AND MANY OF THOSE ARE ACTIVE 40:15 NOW. SOME FALL AWAY, BUT WE HAVE HAD 40:18 A NUMBER OF BAPTISMS FROM THAT, AND WE HAVE HAD SO MANY PEOPLE 40:22 REQUESTING, AND THERE ARE SEVERAL THOUSAND RIGHT NOW THAT 40:25 ARE STILL ACTIVE IN BIBLE STUDY. SO THAT'S PART OF THAT 40:30 CULTIVATING PHASE. AND WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE 40:32 HARVESTING PHASE, BUT WE HAVE HAD UNLOCK REVELATION AND NOW 40:36 WE'RE BEGINNING TO LAUNCH THAT OTHER ONE, SO WE REALLY WANT TO 40:41 SEE ELDER BENTLEY TALK ABOUT THE LITERATURE AND THE BIBLE 40:45 STUDIES, BUT REALLY THE SUCCESS COMES WHEN YOU TAKE BOTH 40:48 PERSONAL AND PUBLIC EVANGELISM AND BLESS -- PUT THOSE TOGETHER. 40:52 THAT'S REALLY KIND OF THE TWO WINGS OF EVANGELISTIC SUCCESS, 40:57 AND MANY CHURCHES ARE NOT -- AGAIN, SOMETIMES FINDING 41:00 THAT SUCCESS, BECAUSE THEY ARE NEGLECTING ONE OR THE OTHER, AND 41:05 SO -- BUT WHEN WE PUT THEM TOGETHER, EVANGELISM REALLY DOES 41:09 STILL WORK. >> SO IF SOMEBODY IS WANTING TO 41:13 GIVE SOMEBODY A BIBLE STUDY, IF SOMEBODY IS WANTING TO STUDY THE 41:17 WORD OF GOD WITH AN INDIVIDUAL, WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND? 41:20 WHERE SHOULD THEY START? >> SURE. 41:22 THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. YOU KNOW, I -- I ALWAYS START 41:25 WITH THAT RELATIONSHIP, AND I WILL USUALLY -- FOR ME I WILL 41:29 TEAR MY TESTIMONY WITH THAT PERSON, AND THEN I JUST ASK 41:33 THEM, HEY, WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN STUDYING THE 41:36 BIBLE? AND THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE 41:38 TODAY THAT ARE ASKING SPIRITUAL QUESTIONS. 41:40 >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> A LOT OF TIME PEOPLE WILL ASK 41:44 YOU A QUESION. AND I ALWAYS SAY, HEY, I HAVE A 41:48 GREAT SET OF BIBLE STUDIES THAT GO RIGHT OVER THOSE QUESTIONS 41:52 YOU ARE ASKING ME. WHY DON'T WE GET TOGETHER AND 41:56 STUDY? AND VERY FEW PEOPLE SAY NO. 41:58 AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF LESSONS OUT THERE. 42:01 WE USE THE IT IS WRITTEN BIBLE STUDY GUIDES. 42:05 WE ALWAYS USE AMAZING FACTS, THOSE ARE THE TWO WE USE, BUT 42:09 THERE ARE A LOT OF GREAT BIBLE STUDIES OUT THERE. 42:14 SO PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS SEARCHING, AND IF WE'RE NOT IN TUNE WITH 42:18 THE LORD OURSELVES, WE CAN WALK RIGHT PAST THAT OPPORTUNITY, BUT 42:22 IF WE'RE IN TUN, GOD WILL BRING THOSE DIVINE APPOINTMENTS. 42:27 >> ABSOLUTELY. AND SOME PEOPLE TRY TO FILL THAT 42:30 VOID WITH ALCOHOL. SOME PEOPLE TRY TO FILL THE VOID 42:34 WITH MONEY. SOME PEOPLE TRY TO FILL THAT 42:36 VOID WITH A WOMAN OR A MAN, OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. 42:40 PEOPLE ARE SEARCHING TO FILL THAT EMPTINESS, BUT THE ONLY ONE 42:48 THAT CAN FILL THAT EMPTINESS IS JESUS CHRIST. 42:50 >> ABSOLUTELY. >> DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? 42:53 >> NO. >> OH, SO BY THE GRACE OF GOD 42:57 WE'RE STRIVING TO PROVIDE RESOURCES AND MINISTRIES IN ALL 43:01 FIVE PHASES, SO THAT WAY OUR SUCCESS CAN BE FROM THE LORD AND-HE CAN PROSPER THAT. 43:07 SO, YOU KNOW, WE -- AS WE WERE LOOKING AT OUR MISSION, WE HAD 43:10 ALL OF THESE THINGS IN LINE, AND WE SAID, YOU KNOW, REALLY, 43:14 MESSAGE DRIVES MISSION. AND WE RECOGNIZED THAT. 43:19 IT'S GOING TO MESSAGE -- WHEN WE UNDERSTAND -- PEOPLE TODAY ARE 43:23 TALKING ABOUT, LET'S DO MISSION. LET'S DO MISSION. 43:26 LET'S DO MISSION. AND YOU THINK ABOUT IT. 43:29 AND YOU SAY, OKAY, BUT WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU SHARING IN YOUR 43:33 MISSION? SO THE BIBLE GIVES US A -- A 43:36 MANDATE FOR MISSION. >> RIGHT. 43:38 >> BUT IT ALSO GIVES US THE MESSAGE THAT WE MUST BE SHARING. 43:42 >> UH-HUH. >> AND SO AS WE STUDY THROUGH 43:47 THAT, WE UNDERSTAND OUR FUNDAMENTAL BELIEF AS 43:49 CHRISTIANS, AS SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISTS, THE THREE ANGELS' 43:54 MESSAGES, ET CETERA, ALL OF THOSE THINGS PROVIDE THE MESSAGE 43:58 WE ARE TO SHARE WITH THE WORLD. SO IN MICHIGAN WE BEGAN TO SAY, 44:02 WE WANT TO STUDY THIS MESSAGE AGAIN. 44:04 SO WE AS A CONFERENCE BEGAN TO COME TOGETHER. 44:09 WE MADE IT VOLUNTARY, BUT TWICE A YEAR WE HAD WHAT WE CALLED 44:12 PRAYER AND FASTING, AND WE WOULD INVITE OUR PASTORS TO COME FOR A 44:17 COUPLE OF SOMEDAYS, AND THEY WOULD FAST HOWEVER THEY WANTED 44:22 TO, BUT WE CAME TOGETHER AND WE WOULD SPEND DAYS AND JUST LOCK 44:25 OURSELVES UP IN OUR CAMP, AND WE WOULD SPEND DAYS JUST PRAYING 44:31 TOGETHER AND FASTING TOGETHER AND STUDYING THE BIBLE TOGETHER. 44:34 AND THEN THERE WAS AN EMPHASIS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT ON 44:39 RIGHTEOUSNESS BY FAITH, AND REALLY FEELING A BURDEN AND 44:44 CONVICTION TO UNDERSTAND THAT MORE DEEPLY. 44:46 >> ABSOLUTELY. >> ELDER, MAYBE YOU WANT TO ADD 44:49 TO THAT. >> YES, THANK YOU, ELDER 44:52 PEPPERS, IN THAT ENVIRONMENT OF PRAYER AND FASTING, WE'RE 44:57 REMINDED THAT ALL OF THESE BROTHERS AND SISTERS STEPS ARE 45:01 ALL INVLUABLE AND IMPORTANT TO DO, BUT OF NO VALUE IF YOU DON'T 45:05 HAVE JESUS CHRIST AT THE CENTER, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE SPIRIT OF 45:09 GOD WORKING. WE'RE ALL PRAYING FOR REVIVAL 45:15 AND REFORMATION THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT. 45:26 AND AS WE WERE DOING THIS TIME OF FASTING AND PRAYER AND -- AND 45:29 THE REMINDER FROM THE SPIRIT OF GOD THAT RIGHTEOUSNESS IS BY 45:34 FAITH AND NOT BY OUR WORKS, WE WANTED TO SAY, WAIT A MINUTE, 45:40 UNDERSTANDING THAT IS -- IS OUR MESSAGE THAT DRIVES OUR MISSION 45:44 CLEARLY CENTERED ON JESUS CHRIST? 45:46 >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> AND SO WE HAD TO GO BACK 45:49 AND -- AND REALLY LOOK BACK AT THAT, AND ELDER PEPPERS, I 45:54 REMEMBER, TIMES WHEN YOU AND I HAVE SAT DOWN AND OUR PASTORS 45:57 TOGETHER AND WE ARE SAYING HOW -- HOW DO WE DO THIS? 46:02 THE WAY WE HAVE BEEN DOING IT ISN'T THE WAY IT NEEDS TO BE 46:06 DONE. >> ABSOLUTELY. 46:07 >> TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW WE BEGAN TO HAVE TO SAY, 46:11 LET'S LOOK AT THIS CAREFULLY AND NOW WHAT? 46:13 >> YEAH, AS WE STUDIED IT, WE WEREN'T SURE WHERE IT WAS GOING 46:17 TO GO. >> SURE. 46:19 >> BUT WE HAD THIS CONVICTION THAT -- WE ALWAYS PREACHED 46:23 CHRIST IN OUR EVANGELISM. WE HEAR PEOPLE SAY I GO TO 46:28 EVANGELISTIC MEETINGS, AND I DON'T HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT JESUS. 46:31 AND I WOULD HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH THAT. 46:34 >> SURE. >> BUT W THOUGHT, ARE WE 46:37 PUTTING CHRIST AS THE GREATEST FOCAL POINT, AS THE GREATEST 46:41 CENTERPIECE OF OUR MESSAGE? AND AR WE PREACHING HIM IN THE 46:45 FULLNESS THAT WE COULD? >> UH-HUH. 46:47 >> AND AS WE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT, AND AS WE PRAYED ABOUT THAT, I 46:51 THINK WE CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT GOD WAS LEADING US TO THE 46:55 PLACE WHERE SOMETHING NEDED TO CHANGE, AND WE REALIZED I DON'T 47:00 THINK WE ARE PREACHING HIM AS FULLY AS GOD DESIRES. 47:05 WE THE FOURTH ANGEL COMING DOWN AND LIGHTING THE WORLD WITH THE 47:09 GLORY OF GOD, AND WE SAID, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE GOT TO PUT CHRIST 47:15 AS -- MORE AS THE CENTER. >> SURE. 47:17 >> NOW SOME PEOPLE THINK IN THEIR MIND THAT -- WHAT THAT 47:21 MEANS IS IF YOU ARE GOING TO PREACH RIGHTEOUSNESS BY FAITH, 47:25 THAT YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE JESUS-ONLY, AND THAT MEANS WE'RE NOT GOING TO PREACH ANY DOCTRINE OR 47:33 PROPHECY, AND THAT'S NOT WHAT IT MEANS AT ALL. 47:40 JESUS ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT GOD. >> OH, ABSOLUTELY. 47:43 >> JESUS IS THE AUTHOR OF DOCTRINE, THE AUTHOR OF 47:48 PROPHECY, SO TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO PREACH JESUS WITHOUT THOSE 47:53 LIMITS, THAT'S A MISTAKE AS WELL. 47:55 SO WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT PERFECT BLEND, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE 48:00 STRIVING TO DO BY THE GRACE OF GOD. 48:02 SO WE DEVELOPED, YOU KNOW, A -- A COMMITTEE THAT WE'RE 48:06 GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT LATER, THAT CAME TOGETHER 48:09 AND STARTED PRAYING AND SAYING WHAT DO WE DO NOW? 48:12 HOW DOES THIS IMPACT OUR EVANGELISM?-pBECAUSE WE HAVE A CONFERENCE 48:16 WIDE SERIES THAT IS COMING UP SOON IN THE NEXT YEAR OR SO, AND 48:21 WE DON'T WANT TO DO THINGS -- WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM 48:24 WHAT WE HAVE DONE, BUT WE WANT TO ADD IT TO. 48:28 WE WANT IT TO BE THE FULLEST THAT IT CAN BE. 48:32 AND SO WE BEGAN TO PRAY AND THE LORD LEAD US TO SOMETHING, AND 48:37 THE TITLE WE'RE USING IN OUR SERIES IS JESUS ON PROPHECY. 48:42 AND SOME PEOPLE SAY WHAT DO YOU MEAN, JESUS ON PROPHECY? 48:47 WHY WOULDN'T YOU SAY JESUS IN PROPHECY. 48:50 >> W-- I WONDERED THAT TOO. >> WELL, YOU HAVE DIFFERENT 48:58 EXPERTS THAT SPEAK ON TOPICS. YOU MIGHT HAVE A PHYSICIAN THAT 49:04 SPEAKS ON DIABETES OR A BUSINESS PERSON THAT SPEAKS ON FINANCE. 49:07 >> SURE. >> WELL, THE THOUGHT BEHIND 49:10 JESUS ON PROPHECY IS WE WANT JESUS TO SPEAK ON THAT SUBJECT. 49:14 >> THERE YOU GO. >> SO OPENING THE WORD, LETTING 49:18 CHRIST SPEAK ON THAT SUBJECT, AND HE IS THE AUTHOR OF IT, SO 49:22 HE IS THE ONE THAT IS GOING TO SPEAK TO US THROUGH HIS WORD. 49:26 >> THAT'S GENIUS. >> THAT'S RIGHT. 49:28 >> THAT'S GENIUS. >> WELL, IT WAS THE LORD'S IDEA. 49:32 >> IT'S BIBLICAL, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK BACK TO MATTHEW 28, AND 49:38 WHAT DOES HE SAY IN VERSE 18. ALL AUTHORITY HAS BEEN GIVEN TO 49:42 WHOM? TO ME IN HEAVEN AND IN EARTH. 49:45 SO, REALLY, I LOVE YOUR -- I LOVE THE POINT, AND WE GOT 49:49 EXCITED ABOUT IT, BECAUSE THERE WAS ANOTHER NAME FOR THE SERIES, 49:54 INITIALLY. WE STARTED WITHOUT A DIFFERENT 49:55 NAME, BUT I REMEMBER WHEN HE LEFT ONE OF OUR MINISTERIAL 49:59 MEETINGS AFTER STUDYING AND PRAYING TOGETHER, I SENT PASTOR 50:08 WES A TEXT AND SAID WE CAN'T KEEP DOING WHAT WE HAVE BEEN 50:12 DOING. AND HE SAID I AGREE. 50:14 SO IT REALLY COMES BACK DOWN TO, WHO IS THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY ON 50:19 SPIRITUAL THINGS? AND THAT'S JESUS. 50:22 SO WHY NOT HEAR THAT OVERALL -- OVERARCHING 50:26 NARRATIVE, WHY NOT HEAR FROM HIM. 50:27 >> ABSOLUTELY. I THINK I CAN SPEAK ON BEHALF OF 50:30 YOU GUYS WHEN YOU SAY THIS, YOU ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT 50:39 NECESSARILY REINVENTING OR CHANGING THE MESSAGE, BUT YOU 50:43 ARE COMING AT IT FROM A DIFFERENT ANGLE FROM A BIBLICAL 50:47 PERSPECTIVE, AND I LIKE THAT. >> LISTENING TO THIS REMINDS ME 50:51 OF ONE PIECE I WANT TO SHARE HERE. 50:53 AS WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS -- YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WHEN 50:57 YOU REALIZE HOW OTHER PEOPLE HAVE PREACHED, YOU GO BACK AND 51:01 SAY, WAIT A MINUTE, WHAT DID THEY SAY? 51:03 AND YOU KNOW HOW WE GET THAT AS PREACHERS. 51:08 WELL, ONE DAY WE WERE LOOKING AT SOME SERMONS THAT WERE PREACHED 51:13 BACK ABOUT 1894 I BELIEVE, AND WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO 51:16 UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CONTENT -- HOW DO YOU -- HOW DO 51:20 YOU MAKE THIS MORE CHRIST CENTERED? 51:23 CAME ACROSS SOME SERMONS DONE BY WW PRESCOTT IN AUSTRALIA, ELLEN 51:31 WHITE WAS RIGHT THERE AT THE TIME. 51:33 SHE LISTENED TO THE SERMON. IT WAS AN EVANGELISTIC OUTREACH 51:37 INTO THE COMMUNITY THROUGH A CAMP MEETING, AND THEY STARTED 51:41 OUT WITH JUST ADVENISTS, AND THEN THEY START TOAD DRAW THE 51:44 PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY, WHERE IT GREW INTO LIKE 2,000 PEOPLE, 51:49 AND STARTED READING THESE SERMONS THAT WERE JUST SO 51:53 ENDORSED BY ELLEN WHITE AS THE MESSAGE, AND I STARTED READING 51:58 THEM, AND AS I WENT THROUGH THEM, I SAID, I GET IT. 52:01 AND HE WOULD TALK ABOUT JESUS, AND WHAT JESUS HAD TO SAY ON 52:05 THIS PARTICULAR SUBJECT. WHAT DID JESUS SAY ABOUT THE 52:11 SABBATH OR THE STATE OF THE DEATH? 52:13 WELL IF JESUS SAID THAT, THEN MAYBE WE SHOULD BE DOING THAT, 52:17 AND JUST TURN ON A LIGHT ON ALL OF US, AS WE BEGAN TO LOOK AT 52:21 THAT, AND SEE WHAT GOD HAS DONE THERE. 52:23 I HAD SEEN SOMETHING I HAD NEVER SEEN BEFORE. 52:26 IT MADE A DIFFERENCE IN MY LIFE, MY PREACHING. 52:30 >> THIS ELEMENT ALSO BEGAN TO SPREAD AMONGST OUR PASTORS, AND 52:34 THEY WERE PREACHING THESE MESSAGES IN THEIR CHURCHES, AND -THE MEMBERS WERE BEGINNING TO 52:39 SAY, WOW, YOUR PREACHING IS GETTING BETTER, GETTING DEEPER. 52:46 IT'S MORE CHRIST FOCUSED. THERE IS A POWER THERE THAT 52:49 WASN'T THERE BEFORE. AND WE SAID, LORD, THIS HAS TO 52:53 TRANSFER OVER TO OUR EVANGELISM. WHEN PEOPLE COME TO OUR 52:56 MEETINGS, THEY HAVE TO SEE CHRIST -- THEY HAVE TO KNOW THE 53:00 MESSAGE, BUT THEY HAVE TO SEE CHRIST HIGH AND LIFTED UP. 53:03 THEY HAVE TO KNOW THAT HE IS THE SOURCE OF ALL LIFE, THAT HIS 53:07 POWER TO TRANSFORM THEIR LIFE HAS TO BE EXPERIENCED. 53:10 >> ABSOLUTELY. >> THEY CAN'T JUST HEAR IT. 53:13 THEY HAVE TO EXPERIENCE IT. SO REALLY, THIS IS WHERE ALL IS 53:21 BIRTHED OUT OF AND THAT CONVICTION THAT SOMETHING HAS TO 53:25 CHANGE. AND WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT 53:26 IN THE SECOND HOUR, BUT THE LORD HAS BEEN GRACIOUS TO US. 53:31 WHEN WE CAME TO THE TABLE, ALL WE HAD WAS CONVICTION, AND WE 53:36 SAID, LORD, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HELP US, AND LITTLE BY 53:41 LITTLE AS WE GOT ON OUR KNEES AND PRAYED, THE LORD WOULD OPEN 53:46 UP A NEW IDEA OR NEW THOUGHT. AND EVEN THE GRAPHIC THAT WE 53:50 USED, WE HAVE THE PROPHETIC THEME IN THERE. 53:55 THE BEAST AND WHAT NOT. PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW THE 53:59 PROPHECIES OF REVELATION, BUT CHRIST IS THERE AS THE 54:02 CENTERPIECE. HE IS THERE AS THE FOCUS, AND 54:04 FROM THE GRAPHIC TO THE MESSAGES TO THE POWERPOINTS TO EVERY 54:08 PIECE OF THAT SERIES, WE WANT IT TO BE CHRIST CENTERED AND CHRIST 54:13 FOCUSED. >> AND THAT IS CRUCIAL, AND I 54:15 LIKE THE RELATIONSHIP ASPECT OF IT AS WELL, BECAUSE WHY WOULD I 54:20 KEEP A DOCTRINE FOR SOMEBODY THAT I DON'T EVEN KNOW? 54:22 >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> WHY WOULD I DO SOMETHING FOR 54:25 SOMEBODY THEY DON'T KNOW, BUT YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE TIME TO GET 54:30 TO KNOW CHRIS, AND WHEN YOU REALLY LOOK AT HIS LIFE AND WHAT 54:33 HE HAS DONE FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US -- 54:36 >> ABSOLUTELY. >> HOW COULD YOU NOT? 54:40 >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> PASTOR [ INAUDIBLE ] DOES A 54:43 SERIES THAT IS MORE FOCUSED ON REVIVAL OF THE CHURCH, BUT THEN 54:48 YOU APPLY THAT SAME MENTALITY AND PERSPECTIVE TO YOUR 54:54 OUTREACH. IT'S NOT ABOUT WHAT YOU DO, IT'S 54:57 WHO YOU KNOW, AND WHO YOU KNOW CHANGES WHAT YOU DO. 55:01 HE IS NOT SAYING THROW AWAY THE DOCTRINES, BUT HE IS SAYING THEY 55:08 ARE NOT GOING TO BE AS POWERFUL AS THEY SHOULD BE, IF YOU DON'T 55:12 FIRST GO TO THE RULER OF THE SABBATH. 55:16 SO I SO APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING. 55:20 >> AND WE DON'T WANT TO DIMINISH THE CONCEPT OF THE LAW, BUT THAT 55:24 THE LAW AND THE GOSPEL PERFECTLY SIT TOGETHER. 55:29 AND WHEN YOU UPLIFT CHRIST, YOU UPLIFT THE LAW EVEN HIGHER, 55:34 BECAUSE IT OPENS UP TO US A DEEPER REVELATION OF CHRIST, AND 55:38 HIS TRUH, AND THAT BRINGS US TO THE CONVICTION THAT, MAN, 55:44 THERE'S NO WAY I CAN GIVE LIKE CHRIS, UNLESS CHRIST IS LIVING 55:48 IN ME. AND THAT'S THE KEY. 55:51 IS THAT, WE WANT PEOPLE TO SEE THE STANDARD THAT CHRIST IS L 55:55 KAING THEM TO, WHICH IS HIS LIFE, AND WE -- WE COME TO THAT 56:00 REALIZATION THAT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE WITHOUT A TRANSFORMATION OF MY 56:06 HEART, AND ONLY HE HAS THE POWER TO DO IT. 56:09 AND THAT'S BELIEVING THAT HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS CAN BE MINE IF I 56:14 PUT MY TOTAL FAITH, TRUST, AND CONFIDENCE IN HIM. 56:17 >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS PEOPLE 56:22 BECOME EMPOWERED TO LIVE TO THAT CALLING THAT GOD HAS FOR THEM. 56:29 >> AMEN. >> AND THE LAW IS A 56:32 TRANSCRIPTION OF HIS CHARACTER. YOU CAN'T SEPARATE IT. 56:36 >> THINKING OF RIGHTEOUSNESS BY FAITH. 56:39 SOMETIMES THAT FAITH ASPECT IT COMES BY FAITH, AND I ALWAYS 56:41 THINK THINK OF THE ENDING OF THE THIRD 56:48 ANGEL'S MESSAGE. KEEP THE FAITH OF JESUS. 56:51 SO NOT ONLY DO WE WANT THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF CHRIST TO BE 56:55 MADE MANIFEST IN YOUR LIFE, BUT IT COMES THROUGH PRACTICING THE 56:59 SAME FAITH THAT CHRIST PRACTICED HERE ON EARTH. 57:01 >> ABSOLUTELY. >> I LOVE HOW JESUS 57:06 HIMSELF -- JOHN 14:15, RIGHT? IF YOU LOVE ME, YOU'LL KEEP MY 57:11 COMMANDMENTS. CHRIST IS THE ONE THAT TIED 57:13 THESE THINGS TOGETHER, AND IF YOU TAKE ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER, 57:16 YOU ARE LEAVING OUT A VERY IMPORTANT PIECE. 57:19 >> ABSOLUTELY. I CAN'T BELIEVE WE'RE DOWN TO 57:21 THEN OF OUR FIRST HOUR. I HAVE GOT A QUESTION THAT I 57:24 WANT TO ASK YOU GUYS, BU I'LL HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE SECOND 57:28 HOUR. WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK. 57:30 DON'T GO ANYWHERE. ♪ |
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