¤ I WANT TO SPEND MY
LIFE ¤ ¤ SPEND MY LIFE ¤
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¤ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ¤
¤ I WANTED TO SPEND MY LIFE ¤
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¤ REMOVING PAIN ¤ ¤
LORD, LET MY WORDS ¤
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¤ LET MY WORDS ¤ ¤
HEAL UP HEARTS THAT HURT ¤
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¤ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE
¤ ¤ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ¤
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¤ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE
¤ ¤ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ¤
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>> HELLO AND WELCOME
TO 3ABN "TODAY LIVE."
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WE ARE EXCITED THAT YOU
COULD JOIN US THIS EVENING.
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WE HAVE A POWERFUL, POWERFUL
PROGRAM PLANNED FOR YOU TONIGHT,
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AND I'M HERE WITH MY WONDERFUL
BROTHER, PASTOR RYAN DAY.
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>> YES, SIR. IT'S
GOOD TO BE HERE MAN.
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>> YES, SIR. IT'S
GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.
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THE TOPIC IS GOING
TO BE JESUS ON PROPHECY.
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>> AMEN. >> JESUS ON PROPHECY.
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RYAN WHY DON'T YOU
INTRODUCE OUR GUESTS.
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>> YEAH, WE HAVE THE DIRECTOR
OF EVANGELISM AND ASSOCIATE
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MINISTERIAL DIRECTOR OF THE
MICHIGAN CONFERENCE, PASTOR WES
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PEPPER. AND
SITTING TO HIS RIGHT IS
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ELDER ROYCE SNYMAN, WHO IS
THE MINISTERIAL DIRECTOR FOR THE
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MICHIGAN CONFERENCE, AND WE HAVE
PASTOR DARRYL BENTLEY WHO IS THE
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PASTOR OF THE METROPOLITAN
SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH IN
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DETROIT, MICHIGAN. IT'S
A PLEASURE TO HAVE ALL OF
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YOU. >> IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE.
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>> BEFORE WE JUMP
INTO JESUS ON PROPHECY.
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WE HAVE A SONG BY PAM LISTER.
IT IS ENTITLED "ROCK OF AGES."
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¤ ROCK OF AGES ¤ ¤ KEPT FOR ME ¤
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¤ LET THE WATER IN THE GLASS ¤ ¤
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¤ >> WOW, WHAT A WONDERFUL SONG.
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>> PRAISE THE
LORD. >> BEAUTIFUL SONG.
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PASTOR BENTLEY, I
WAS AT YOUR CHURCH --
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>> YES. .
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>> -- ONE TIME IN MICHIGAN WITH
MY GIRLFRIEND, AND YOU TOLD A
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CHILDREN'S STORY THAT REALY
BLEW ME -- A CHILDREN'S STORY
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THAT BLEW ME AWAY. >> YEAH.
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>> AND SINCE WE'RE GOING TO BE
TALKING ABOUT EVANGELISM AND ALL
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OF THAT STUFF, CHILDREN AREN'T
EXCLUDED FOR BEING -- SHARING
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THE GOSPEL WITH THEM.
CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT
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ABOUT THAT CHILDREN'S
STORY? GIVE US A DEMONSTRATION?
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>> WELL, SINCE YOU ASKED,
I'M HAPPY TO SHARE WITH YOU.
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I LOVE DOING CHILDREN'S STORY.
I LOVE BEING ABLE TO CONNECT
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WITH OUR YOUNG PEOPLE.
AND MY FATHER-IN-LAW IS A
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PROLIFIC STORY TELLER, AND I'M
ALWAYS TRYING TO MINE HIM FOR
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NEW STORIES. AND THEY
CAME TO VISIT ONE TIME,
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AND HE SAID I HAVE A NEW STORY.
AND HE SAID THE PREMISE OF THE
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STORY IS ASKING THE YOUNG
PEOPLE, DO YOU WANT TO GO ON A
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JOURNEY? AND THE
ULTIMATE JOURNEY WE CAN
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GO ON AS CHRISTIANS
THAT JOURNEY TO HEAVEN.
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SO YOU ASK THE KIDS,
HOW DO I GET TO HEAVEN?
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SO YOU USE THE PIECE OF
PAPER AND START FOLDING.
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AND THE FIRST FOLDING IS TO
CREATE SOMETHING THAT SOMEWHAT
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RESEMBLES A SAILBOAT.
AND ASK THE CHILDREN, CAN YOU
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USE A SAILBOAT TO
GET TO HEAVEN? OH, NO.
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WHY NOT? SAILBOATS DON'T FLY.
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OH, THAT'S A GREAT POINT.
SO SINCE SAILBOATS DON'T FLY,
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WHY DON'T WE USE
SOMETHING THAT DOES FLY.
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SO WE MAKE ANOTHER FOLD, AND YOU
CREATE SOMETHING THAT SOMEWHAT
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RESEMBLES AN AIRPLANE.
AND YOU SAY CAN I NOW USE THIS
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SAILBOAT TO FLY TO HEAVEN,
TO GET TO WHERE JESUS IS.
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OH, NO, YOU CAN'T USE AN AIR
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AIRPLANE. WELL WHY NOT?
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AIRPLANES DON'T FLY HIGH ENOUGH.
OH, THAT'S A GREAT POINT.
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SO THEN THE FINAL THING I LIKE
TO SHOW THEM IS WELL, MAYBE WE
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CAN USE A ROCKET SHIP.
SO NOW WE HAVE A ROCKET SHIP
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KIND OF. WILL A
ROCKET SHIP GET ME TO
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HEAVEN? AND THE ANSWER IS NO.
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BECAUSE REALLY THE ONLY WAY THAT
I WILL FIND MY WAY TO HEAVEN --
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>> OH, WOW. >> IS
THROUGH THE CROSS OF JESUS
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CHRIST. >> PRAISE THE LORD.
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>> SO IF YOU WANT THAT JOURNEY
TO HEAVEN, THEN YOU HAVE TO
HAVE-JESUS AND YOU HAVE TO FIND
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YOURSELF AT THE
FOOT OF THE CROSS.
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SO THAT'S MY LITTLE
STORY. >> PRAISE THE LORD.
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THAT STORY BLEW ME
AWAY. PASTOR WES IS EVANGELISM
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IMPORTANT? >> I BELIEVE IT IS.
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WE IN MICHIGAN BELIEVE JESUS IS
COMING SOON, AND IF A PERSON IS
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A SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST THEY
HAVE TO HAVE THAT CONVICTION IN
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THEIR HEARTS. AND WE
SEE ALL OF THE PROPHECIES
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POINTING TO THE
TIMES WE'RE LIVING IN NOW.
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AND WE REALIZE THAT CHRIST IS
THE PERSON, THE TRUTH, AND THE
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WAY TO HEAVEN -- >> RIGHT.
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>> -- BUT ULTIMATELY THAT
CHRIST IS THE SOON-COMING KING.
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HE IS COMING AGAIN VERY SOON AS
CONCURRING KING, SO IN MICHIGAN
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IT'S OUR MISSION TO TELL
MICHIGAN AND THE WORLD THAT
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JESUS DIED FOR THEM, BUT
ALSO THAT HE IS COMING BACK.
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>> ABSOLUTELY. >> AMEN.
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>> DO YOU THINK THAT
EVANGELISM STILL WORKS?
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>> YOU HEAR THAT
QUESTION ALL THE TIME.
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WOE DON'T SEE THE
RESULTS THAT WE USED TO SEE.
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WE DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS OF
PEOPLE COMING TO OUR MEETINGS
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AND SO FORTH. AND
I ALWAYS LIKE TO SAY
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EVANGELISM WORKS IF YOU
WORK IT. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
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>> AND I THINK THAT MANY TIMES
PEOPLE AREN'T SEEING THE RESULTS
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BECAUSE WE'RE NOT AS DEDICATED
AND LABORING FOR SOULS LIKE THE
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CHURCH ONCE DID. JUST A COUPLE
OF YEARS AGO WE -pDID A
CONFERENCE-WIDE EVANGELISM
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SERIES CALLED UNLOCK REVELATION.
AND OUR DIRECTOR WAS REALLY THE
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ONE THAT ORCHESTRATED THAT.
BUT I THINK WE ACTUALLY HAVE A
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GRAPHIC THAT SHOWS WHAT OUR HAND
BILL LOOKED LIKE, AND OUR BILL
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BOARD, AND SO FORTH.
BUT WE DID THIS STATEWIDE.
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AND WE ACTUALLY HAD ON
OPENING WEEKEND, OVER 5,000
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NON-SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISTS
THAT CAME THOSE MEETINGS.
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>> WOW. >> AND WE
HAD 10,000 MEMBERS
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THAT ATTENDED. WE HAD
OVER -- BETWEEN THE TWO
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TIMES THAT WE DID IT, OVER
150 LAY PEOPLE THAT PREACHED.
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WE HAD 150 SITES THAT WERE
HOSTING AN UNLOCK REVELATIONS
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SITE, SO IT WAS REALLY PROFOUND,
AND I FELT LIKE THAT WAS A HUGE
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DEMONSTRATION THAT
EVANGELISM STILL WORKS.
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AND WE HAD SEVERAL HUNDRED FOLKS
THAT GAVE THEIR LIVES TO THE
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LORD AND CAME INTO
THE CHURCH THROUGH THAT.
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SO I WANTED TO SHARE A STORY
ABOUT ONE PARTICULAR MAN THAT
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CAME TO THE
SITE. HIS NAME IS MAN.
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AND WE HAVE A PICTURE OF HIM.
HE ATTENDED THE SERIES BECAUSE
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OF A FIRE -- FLIER
THAT CAME TO HIS HOUSE.
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AND WHEN THE GOT THAT FLIER,
WE HUSBAND DEPRESSED, SAD, HE WS
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ADDICTED TO ALCOHOL AND A NUMBER
OF TRAGEDIES AND ADDICTIONS IN
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HIS LIFE. AND HE
CAME TO THE MEETING
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SAYING I AM LOOKING FOR
HOPE. HE GREW UP IN ANOTHER
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DENOMINATION, BUT HE
DECIDED TO ATTEND MEETINGS.
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HE CAME EVERY NIGHT.
AND THE FIRST TIME I VISITED
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DAN -- HE DIDN'T
KNOW I WAS COMING.
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WE OFTEN DO
THAT, RIGHT? >> RIGHT.
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>> SO I SHOWED UP AT HIS HOUSE.
AND HIS ROOMMATE SAID YOU CAN
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FIND HIM OUT BACK. SO I
WENT OUT BACK, AND DAN WAS
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SITTING THERE WITH A BEER IN HIS
HAND, AND SEVERAL EMPTY BOTTLES,
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AND HE BEGAN TO SHARE WITH ME
THE BROKENNESS HE FACED IN HIS
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LIFE, AND THE ADDICTION IN
HIS LIFE, AND HE SAW NO RAY OF
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SUNSHINE THAT COULD FREE HIM
FROM THOSE THINGS, SO WE BEGAN
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TO TALK ABOUT THE POWER OF
CHRIST, AND HOW HE CAN TRANSFORM
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THE HEART. AND I
TOLD DAN IF YOU WILL GIVE
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YOURSELF FULLY TO HIM, THE
LORD JESUS CAN SET YOU FREE.
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AND SO I MADE THAT APPEAL TO
HIM, AND DAN BEGAN TO WEEP, AND
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EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, HE HAD
DRUNK ONE OR TWO ALCOHOL DRINKS,
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STILL THE POWER OF THE GOSPEL
BEGAN TO CONVICT HIS HEART.
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AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE
HE GAVE HIS LIFE TO CHRIST.
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AND A COUPLE OF MONTHS LATER THE
LORD BEGAN TO CLEAN UP HIS LIFE.
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HE GOT VICTORY OVER ALCOHOL
AND THE OTHER ADDICTIONS.
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AND NOW HE GOES TO PRAYER
-MEETING. HE PARTICIPATES EVERY
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SABBATH IN CHURCH. HE
IS BEGINNING TO HELP AND BE
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INVOLVED, AND THE CHURCH IS
PLANNING FOR ANOTHER OUTREACH AS
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WELL, EVANGELISM SERIES, AND DAN
IS GOING TO BE A PART OF THAT.
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HE IS GOING TO BE WORKING
TO TELL OTHERS ABOUT CHRIST.
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SO I BELIEVE TODAY THAT
EVANGELISM STILL WORKS, AND WE
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SEE THE RESULTS ALL THE TIME.
WE SEE PEOPLE'S LIVING BEING
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TRANSFORMED BY THE PUBLIC
PROCLAMATION OF THE GOSPEL.
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AND I THINK YOU HAVE A STORY
AS WELL ABOUT A YOUNG LADY.
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>> WELL, ONE OF OUR EVANGELISTS
IN MICHIGAN, DAN TOWER HAD HELD
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A SERIES OF MEETINGS JUST BEFORE
I GOT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE
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SERIES, AND SO JUST A
FEW MONTHS BEFORE, SHE MADE A
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DECISION -- HER NAME IS KRISTEN.
SHE HAS TWO YOUNG DAUGHTERS, AND
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SHE IS JUST THAT PERSONALITY
THAT IS JUST EXCITED AND WANTS
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TO SHARE WITH OTHER
PEOPLE AND PARTICIPATE.
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AND WHEN I GOT THERE TO HOLD THE
MEETING, SHE WAS ONE OF THOSE
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INDIVIDUALS
HELPING OUT IN MEETINGS.
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SO SHE GOES FROM AN INDIVIDUAL
THAT DOESN'T HAVE THAT
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INFORMATION, THAT KNOWLEDGE,
THAT CONNECTION WITH THE LORD,
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AND SHE IS NOW EXCITED
ABOUT HELPING TO SHARE.
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AND THIS IS IN A CHURCH --
IT'S NOT A CHURCH YET AT THAT
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PARTICULAR POINT, AND SHE
WANTS TO SEE IT BECOME A CHURCH.
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SHE IS READY TO DO HER PART.
PEOPLE COME OUT THOSE MEETINGS,
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AND IT'S THAT TRANSITION.
IT'S THAT GROWTH PROCESS.
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SHE IS SHARING
WITH OTHER INDIVIDUALS.
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ONE OF THE OTHER LADIES THAT
CAME THERE, HER NAME IS KATE,
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SHE CAME TO ME ONE DAY AND
SAID I KNOW I FOUND THE TRUTH.
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AND YOU SEE THAT LIGHT IN
PEOPLE'S LIVES, AND YOU COULD
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JUST TELL, YOU SEE THESE CHANGES
IN PEOPLE'S LIVES FROM ONE PHASE
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TO ANOTHER, AND ONE IS CONVERTED
AND THEN SHE IS LEADING OTHER
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PEOPLE AND HELPING
OTHERS ALONG THE WAY.
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IT'S EXCITING TO SEE.
>> PASTOR, I THINK YOU HAD
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SOMEONE TO SHARE
ABOUT AS WELL. >> I DID.
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YOU GUYS ASKED ABOUT
ADVERTISING, AND WE'LL TALK MORE
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ABOUT THAT LATER, BUT THERE IS
POWER IN ADVERTISING, IN HAVING
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BRAND RECOGNITION, AND SO
WE STARTED UNLOCKING REVELATION
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BACK IN THE DETROIT AREA, AND
OF COURSE WHEN OUR LOCAL PASTOR,
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WHO USED TO BE AT THE METRO
CHURCH WHERE I AM NOW, WENT TO
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THE CONFERENCE AND THEN BECAME
UNLOCK REVELATION, WE'RE USING
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THAT BRANDING SEVERAL TIMES
OVER, AND SO A SIMILAR HAND BILL
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CAME TO A PARTICULAR LADY'S
HOUSE, HER NAME IS DEBBIE,
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MULTIPLE TIMES. SO
SHE SAW IT THE FIRST TIME,
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KIND OF DISCARDED IT.
SECOND TIME FELT INCLINED TO
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COME AND CAME TO ONE
MEETING. MANAGED TO SIT IN THE
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BACKGROUND, WASN'T
REAL NOTICED, IF YOU WILL.
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BUT BY THE THIRD TIME SHE SEES
THE HAND BILL, SHE COMES AND IS
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AT A POINT IN HER LIFE
OF FEELING DOWN, SOMEWHAT
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DEPRESSED, LOOKING AND
WONDERING IS THERE MORE TO LIFE?
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IS THERE SOMETHING
ELSE FOR ME? AND SHE CAME.
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AND SHE STAYED IN
THE MEETINGS FAITHFULLY.
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PRAISE GOD THE LOCAL FOLKS
CONNECTED WITH HER, MADE FRIENDS
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WITH HER, MADE SURE SHE FELT
IMPORTANT AS EVERY SOUL IS, AND
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PRAISE GOD SHE MADE
A DECISION FOR BAPTISM.
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HE IS TOOK HER THROUGH A
DISCIPLESHIP PROCESS, AND SHE
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FAITHFULLY ATTENDS CHURCH EVERY
SABBATH, EVEN TO THE POINT WHEN
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SHOW WAS CHALLENGED ABOUT
WORKING ON SABBATH, SHE STOOD UP
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TO HER EMPLOYER AND SAID
I WOULD RATHER LOSE MY JOB.
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>> I JUT WANT TO ATTEST TO
THAT, BECAUSE I'M JUST HEARING
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THE THREE OF YOU, WHETHER IT'S
AN INVITATION, HANDBILL, OR I
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HAVES ACCUSATION, YOU HAD TO
GO TO THESE PEOPLE AND EXTEND AN
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INVITATION. AND
THAT'S POWERFUL IN AND OF
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ITSELF, BECAUSE PEOPLE'S LIVES
CAN'T BE TRANSFORMED BY THE
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GOSPEL UNTIL WE GO TO
THEM AND SHARE JESUS WITH THEM.
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AND THAT'S JUST, EVANGELISM
IN THAT SENSE ALONE IS WORTH IT,
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BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE PEOPLE COME
TO YOU WITH THEIR PROBLEMS AND
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STRUGGLES, AND THE ADVERSITY
THEY MIGHT BE DEALING WITH IN
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THEIR LIVES. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
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>> AND ONE OTHER THING, WE
DIDN'T HAVE ANOTHER AVENUE INTO
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HER HOME EXCEPT THAT HAND BILL.
NO KNOCKING ON HER DOOR WOULD
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HAVE WORKED. NOBODY
WORKED CLOSE TO HER.
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NOBODY HAD A SPHERE OF INFLUENCE
THAT CONNECTED WITH HER.
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OUR HAND BILL WAS THE ONLY
AVENUE THAT BROUGHT US INTO
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CONTACT WITH HER. >> WOW.
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>> AND YOU KNOW, GUYS, IN
ADDITION TO THAT -- WE'RE GOING
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TO TALK A LITTLE BIT HERE ABOUT
THE POWER OF THE -- THE COMBINED
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EFFORT OF PERSONAL AND PUBLIC
EVANGELISM, BUT IT TAKES ALL OF
00:17:14.10\00:17:18.20
IT. AND I THINK THAT SOMETIMES
00:17:18.20\00:17:19.67
PEOPLE DON'T SEE THE RESULTS
THEY WANT TO, BECAUSE THEY ARE
00:17:19.67\00:17:22.44
JUST DOING ONE OR THE OTHER.
BUT I WANTED TO MENTION ANOTHER
00:17:22.44\00:17:28.01
STORY ABOUT A LITTLE CHURCH THAT
I DID A SET OF MEETINGS FOR, AND
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THIS CHURCH HAD
THREE ATTENDING MEMBERS.
00:17:31.78\00:17:34.18
IT WAS ON THE
VERGE OF CLOSING DOWN.
00:17:34.18\00:17:37.29
>> WOW. >> AND
THEY ASKED ME TO COME TO
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MEETING, AND I SAID, YEAH, I'LL
HELP YOU, BECAUSE I WANTED TO BE
00:17:40.69\00:17:45.39
FAITHFUL. AND I
PRAYED ABOUT IT, AND THE
00:17:45.39\00:17:47.93
LORD IMPRESSED ME. IT IS
JUST A LITTLE BIT EAST OF
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LANCING, MICHIGAN.
SO WHEN I CAME INTO THE
00:17:52.70\00:17:55.84
CONFERENCE, THEY ASKED ME TO
THE MEETINGS AND I SAID SURE.
00:17:55.84\00:17:59.57
AND SO I WENT THERE, AND
WHEN YOU HAVE THREE ATTENDING
00:17:59.57\00:18:02.98
MEMBERS, THERE ARE
CERTAIN AREAS YOU HAVE TO COVER.
00:18:02.98\00:18:06.95
REGISTRATION, GREETING, AND YOU
REALLY WANT AT LEAST ONE PERSON
00:18:06.95\00:18:10.49
IN THE CHURCH WHEN PEOPLE
COME IN, SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID.
00:18:10.49\00:18:13.92
WE HAD A COUPLE OF OTHER MEMBERS
FROM OTHER CHURCHES THAT CAME
00:18:13.92\00:18:16.86
AND HELPED, BUT THIS LITTLE
CHURCH WAS ABOUT TO CLOSE, AND I
00:18:16.86\00:18:21.46
BEGAN TO PRAY AND SAY,
LORD, WE DON'T WANT TO CLOSE.
00:18:21.46\00:18:25.17
WE WANT TO STAY OPEN AND WHAT
DO WE DO IN AND THEY DID SOME
00:18:25.17\00:18:29.54
OTHER THINGS AHEAD OF TIME,
MINISTRY AND OUTREACHES AND SO
00:18:29.54\00:18:34.01
FORTH. BUT THEN
IT CAME TIME FOR THE
00:18:34.01\00:18:36.34
MEETING. WHEN THE
MEETING CAME, WE HAD
00:18:36.34\00:18:38.51
ALMOST 30 CHURCHES
THAT FILLED THAT CHURCH.
00:18:38.51\00:18:41.62
SO WE WENT THROUGH THE SERIES,
AND THERE WERE A NUMBER OF FOLKS
00:18:41.62\00:18:45.32
THAT MADE DECISIONS, AND THERE
HAVE BEEN SOME BAPTISMS SINCE
00:18:45.32\00:18:49.66
THAT TIME, ABOUT
FIVE BAPTISMS. >> WOW.
00:18:49.66\00:18:52.13
>> SO THE LITTLE CHURCH IS NOT
WITHOUT STRUGGLES, EVERY LITTLE
00:18:52.13\00:18:56.56
CHURCH HAS THAT. BUT
THEY ARE GROWING, AND THEY
00:18:56.56\00:18:59.67
ARE ON THE MOVE AND GOD
HAS DONE SOMETHING FOR THEM.
00:18:59.67\00:19:05.17
IN FACT, WE HAVE AN INTERESTING
STATEMENT FROM THE TESTIMONIES
00:19:05.17\00:19:07.78
THAT I WOULD LIKE TO READ.
AND I BELIEVE WE THAT UP THERE.
00:19:07.78\00:19:11.18
IT TALKS ABOUT THE
POWER OF PUBLIC EVANGELISM.
00:19:11.18\00:19:16.45
AND IT READS THIS:
00:19:16.45\00:19:18.89
SO THERE WE SEE THAT EVEN PUBLIC
EVANGELISM WILL BE GOING ON
00:19:54.82\00:19:59.59
UNTIL JESUS COMES, THAT THE
PUBLIC PROCLAMATION OF THE WORD
00:19:59.59\00:20:04.53
IS SO IMPORTANT IN THESE
LAST DAYS THAT NOTHING ELSE
00:20:04.53\00:20:07.17
IS -- SHOULD BE ABSORBING
OUR ATTENTION AS SEVENTH-DAY
00:20:07.17\00:20:10.54
ADVENTISTS. SO I
THINK THAT'S KEY IN
00:20:10.54\00:20:13.21
UNDERSTANDING EVANGELISM IS
GOD'S METHOD AT THE END OF TIME.
00:20:13.21\00:20:16.14
>> AMEN. >> ABSOLUTELY.-AMEN.
00:20:16.14\00:20:18.65
>> LET ME ASK YOU THIS, YOU
KNOW, IT'S NOT ONLY PASTORS THAT
00:20:18.65\00:20:22.92
ARE TO TAKE THE
GOSPEL TO THE WORLD.
00:20:22.92\00:20:25.55
>> THAT'S EXACTLY CORRECT.
>> YOU NEED ALL OF THE MEMBERS
00:20:25.55\00:20:28.36
TO GET INVOLVED. >> YES.
00:20:28.36\00:20:30.09
IN TIMES PAST -- AND OUR CHURCH
HAS DEVELOPED THIS MENTALITY,
00:20:30.09\00:20:33.90
THAT IT'S THE PASTOR'S JOB TO DO
ALL OF THAT, BUT WHEN YOU REALLY
00:20:33.90\00:20:38.17
STUDY THE BIBLE, AND THE
WRITINGS OF THE SPIRIT OF
00:20:38.17\00:20:42.17
PROPHECY, YOU SEE VERY CLEARLY
THAT THE GREATER WORK IS TO BE
00:20:42.17\00:20:46.61
DONE BY THE LOCAL MEMBERS,
NOT SIMPLY THE PASTOR OR A STAR
00:20:46.61\00:20:51.45
EVANGELIST COMING TO TOWN, BUT
THAT GOD HAS A PERSONAL MINISTRY
00:20:51.45\00:20:55.58
FOR EVERY PERSON. >> AMEN.
00:20:55.58\00:20:57.15
>> SO IF THAT WORK IS GOING TO
BE AS POWERFUL AS IT CAN BE, IT
00:20:57.15\00:21:01.02
IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE
THE LAY PEOPLE RISING UP.
00:21:01.02\00:21:03.79
AND IN MICHIGAN WE HAVE
SOMETHING CALLED THE TRAINING
00:21:03.79\00:21:07.13
CENTER CHURCH MODEL,
WHERE WE EMPHASIZE JUST THAT.
00:21:07.13\00:21:10.37
AND MAYBE YOU CAN TALK
ABOUT THAT FOR JUST A MINUTE.
00:21:10.37\00:21:13.77
>> WELL, WE ARE ANXIOUS TO
FOLLOW THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY
00:21:13.77\00:21:25.21
AND THE WORD OF GOD
THAT WE ARE ALL DISCIPLES.
00:21:25.21\00:21:30.02
AND ELLEN WHITE REMINDS US
THAT EVERY CHURCH IS A TRAINING
00:21:30.02\00:21:34.46
CENTER. >> ABSOLUTELY.
00:21:34.46\00:21:35.22
>> THAT MEANS THAT THE CHURCH
IS A SCHOOL, AND -- SHE ACTUALLY
00:21:35.22\00:21:39.53
USES THE WORD TRAINING SCHOOL,
AND THE CHAPTER IS ENTITLED
00:21:39.53\00:21:43.43
TRAINING CENTERS, AND IT'S THE
PLACE WHERE ALL OF OUR MEMBERS
00:21:43.43\00:21:48.90
ARE TO LEARN TO BE GIVERS OF
THE TRUTH TO THE PEOPLE IN THE
00:21:48.90\00:21:52.64
COMMUNITY. AND THAT
MEANS EVERYBODY -- IT
00:21:52.64\00:21:54.64
MEANS THE ELDER, THE DEACON,
THE DEACONIST, EVERYBODY IS A
00:21:54.64\00:22:01.15
DISCIPLE FIRST, AND THEN THEY
HAVE THE OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES.
00:22:01.15\00:22:04.99
AND THAT'S A MAJOR FOCUS
FOR US IN MICHIGAN RIGHT NOW.
00:22:04.99\00:22:08.59
AND I KNOW ALL OF THE CHURCHES
AROUND THE COUNTRY ARE WANTING
00:22:08.59\00:22:13.36
TO DO THE SAME THING. >> SURE.
00:22:13.36\00:22:16.03
>> OUR CHURCH IS SO BEAUTIFULLY
SET UP, THAT THE STRUCTURE OF
00:22:16.03\00:22:19.33
THE CHURCH IS ALREADY
GIVEN TO US FROM THE LORD -- THE
00:22:19.33\00:22:22.84
SCRIPTURE AND THE SPIRIT OF
PROPHECY, BUT ALSO THE CHURCH
00:22:22.84\00:22:32.08
MANUAL. SO OUR
CHURCHES -- YOU KNOW, IN
00:22:32.08\00:22:34.72
OUR CHURCHES WE WANT OUR ELDERS
TO BE TRAINED TO OVERSEE THE
00:22:34.72\00:22:39.62
WORK THAT GOING ON THERE. WE
WANT OUR DEPARTMENTAL LEADERS
00:22:39.62\00:22:43.83
TO BE TRAINED. THAT
THEY ARE NOT JUST THERE TO
00:22:43.83\00:22:47.36
NUTURE THE CHURCH, BUT THEY ARE
EVERY DEPARTMENT OF THE CHURCH,
00:22:47.36\00:22:50.43
WHETHER IT'S WOMEN'S MINISTRIES
OR PATH FINDERS OR WHOEVER, THAT
00:22:50.43\00:22:56.60
EVERY AREA AND DEPARTMENT
OF THE CHURCH NEEDS TO HAVE A
00:22:56.60\00:23:00.31
SOUL-WINNING UNIT -- IT NEEDS
TO BE A SOUL-WINNING UNIT, AND A
00:23:00.31\00:23:05.51
SOUL-WINNING COMPONENT IT TO,
SO THAT EVERY MEMBER IN EVERY
00:23:05.51\00:23:09.05
DEPARTMENT IS REACHING
OUT TO SOULS AROUND THEM.
00:23:09.05\00:23:12.02
AND WE ARE THEN COMING
TOGETHER AS A CHURCH --
00:23:12.02\00:23:14.69
>> RIGHT. >> TO DO THAT PUBLIC
00:23:14.69\00:23:18.53
PROCLAMATION OF THE GOSPEL.
AND IT TAKES EVERY MEMBER OF THE
00:23:18.53\00:23:22.33
CHURCH TO MAKE THAT SUCCESSFUL.
>> AND I FEEL LIKE THAT IS
00:23:22.33\00:23:27.34
SOMETHING THE MICHIGAN
CONFERENCE DOES VERY WELL.
00:23:27.34\00:23:29.40
I HAPPENED TO HAVE AN
INSIDE SCOOP IN THE MICHIGAN
00:23:29.40\00:23:34.88
CONFERENCE. AND
SHE TELLS ME ABOUT THE
00:23:34.88\00:23:36.85
DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE GOING
ON, AND HOW EVERYBODY IS GETTING
00:23:36.85\00:23:41.28
INVOLVED. >> YES.
00:23:41.28\00:23:41.98
>> JUST A QUICK OBSERVATION,
IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE EVERYBODY
00:23:41.98\00:23:45.85
INVOLVED BECAUSE EVANGELISM
IS NOT JUST ONE EVENT.
00:23:45.85\00:23:48.72
IT'S A WHOLE
PROCESS. >> ABSOLUTELY.
00:23:48.72\00:23:52.03
>> BUT THAT'S WHY
EVERYBODY IS INVOLVED.
00:23:52.03\00:23:54.36
>> RIGHT. >> AND --
AND WHEN WE BEGIN TO
00:23:54.36\00:23:56.90
SEE THAT PROCESS EVOLVE IN THE
LOCAL CHURCH, WE SEE MORE PEOPLE
00:23:56.90\00:24:02.27
REACH FOR THE
GOSPEL. >> ABSOLUTELY.
00:24:02.27\00:24:04.54
I'M THINKING OF -- YOU MENTIONED
WE AS SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISTS, I
00:24:04.54\00:24:08.48
KNOW THIS VERY NETWORK,
THE THREE ANGELS BROADCASTING
00:24:08.48\00:24:18.95
NETWORK, WE ARE TO SPREAD
THE GOSPEL ACROSS THE GLOBE.
00:24:18.95\00:24:24.36
AND MY QUESTION IS MINISTERIAL
WISE AND PASTORAL WISE, YOU DEAL
00:24:24.36\00:24:30.73
WITH SOMETIMES THAT MENTALITY OF
WE WOULD LIKE TO DO EVANGELISM,
00:24:30.73\00:24:35.60
BUT IT DOESN'T WORK ANYMORE.
BUT WE KNOW WE NEED EVANGELISM,
00:24:35.60\00:24:40.01
SO FROM A MINISTERIAL
PERSPECTIVE, HOW DO YOU GET
00:24:40.01\00:24:44.21
EVERYONE INVOLVED?
WHAT MEASURES DO YOU TAKE IN
00:24:44.21\00:24:48.22
THIS PARTICULAR -- >>
I'M GOING TO LET OUR DIRECTOR
00:24:48.22\00:24:51.45
TALK ABOUT THAT. [ LAUGHTER ]
00:24:51.45\00:24:52.95
>> I'LL TAG IN THERE. >>
WELL, IT'S -- IT'S A MATTER
00:24:52.95\00:24:56.59
OF HELPING OUR PASTORS, FIRST
OF ALL, TO BE REMINDED THAT IT'S
00:24:56.59\00:25:01.60
NOT JUST THEIR JOB. >> SURE.
00:25:01.60\00:25:03.30
>> THEY GET THAT.
THEY UNDERSTAND THAT.
00:25:03.30\00:25:05.17
BUT WE WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT WE
BELIEVE THAT AS THE LEADERSHIP
00:25:05.17\00:25:09.84
LEVEL, AND THEN TO SHARE
WITH THE CHURCH MEMBERS AS WELL.
00:25:09.84\00:25:13.04
DON'T HAVE TIME TODAY TO
TALK ABOUT A WHOLE OTHER PROJECT
00:25:13.04\00:25:16.44
WE'RE WORKING ON
AT HOME -- >> YEAH.
00:25:16.44\00:25:18.88
>> BUT WE HAVE BROKEN
INTO GEOGRAPHICAL DISTRICTS IN
00:25:18.88\00:25:23.28
MICHIGAN, AND ONE OF OUR
DISTRICTS -- ESPECIALLY, WE'RE
00:25:23.28\00:25:29.66
GOING TO EVERY SINGLE CHURCH
AND MEETING WITH THEM AND THEIR
00:25:29.66\00:25:33.13
BOARDS, AND SPENDING THE WHOLE
YEAR REMINDING THEM OF THOSE
00:25:33.13\00:25:37.90
VERY FACT FACTS, JASON, AND I'M
SEEING LIGHTS COME ON IN ELDER'S
00:25:37.90\00:25:43.67
EYES, AD MEMBERS EYES, AS THEY
BEGIN TO REALIZE THEY ARE A PART
00:25:43.67\00:25:49.74
OF THIS WHOLE PROCESS, AND THEN
I THINK THAT HELPS THE PROCESS.
00:25:49.74\00:25:53.85
AND ONE DAY WE'LL GET
DOWN TO YOUR AREA, BROTER.
00:25:53.85\00:25:57.45
>> HAPPY TO HAVE
YOU. [ LAUGHTER ]
00:25:57.45\00:25:59.42
>> IS IF THERE IS ONE
THING WE COULD TAG INTO THAT.
00:25:59.42\00:26:03.02
I THINK ABOUT -- WE HAS PASTORS
MOVE.-WE ARE A TRANSIENT GROUP
00:26:03.02\00:26:08.53
BY JUST THE NATURE OF
MINISTRY. AND ONE THING I REALLY
00:26:08.53\00:26:11.90
APPRECIATE IS WHEN I LOOK
AT MY MINISTERIAL TEAM, THAT'S
00:26:11.90\00:26:21.01
CONTINUITY FOR THE CHURCH.
I MAY COME AND GO AT SOME
00:26:21.01\00:26:25.18
POINT -- LET ME KNOW WHEN THAT
IS GOING TO HAPPEN, I DON'T LIKE
00:26:25.18\00:26:28.95
SURPRISES -- BUT THAT
CONTINUITY OF THETURE.
00:26:28.95\00:26:33.52
IN MISSION IS OURS.
THIS ISN'T JUST THE LATEST
00:26:33.52\00:26:37.03
MANDATE OR PROGRAM TO BE HANDED
DOWN FROM THE CONFERENCE OR,
00:26:37.03\00:26:40.36
WELL, THIS PASTOR WANTS THIS,
AND THE NEXT PASTOR THAT COMES
00:26:40.36\00:26:44.70
ALONG IS GOING TO WANT THIS.
IT GIVES THEM THAT CONTINUITY
00:26:44.70\00:26:50.64
THAT THIS MISSION OF SOUL
WINNING IS WHY WE EXIST, SO I
00:26:50.64\00:26:54.58
APPRECIATE THAT AS A PASTOR THAT
MY MINISTERIAL DEPARTMENT IS
00:26:54.58\00:26:58.98
PRESSING THAT. >> AMEN.
00:26:58.98\00:27:00.58
>> OUR EVANGELISM COORDINATOR
DOES SO MUCH TRAINING WITH LAY
00:27:00.58\00:27:05.65
PEOPLE. >> I KNOW
WE'RE LEADWAYING INTO
00:27:05.65\00:27:07.89
THIS, BUT
EVANGELISM IS A PROCESS.
00:27:07.89\00:27:10.53
WE KNOW THAT. SO
THERE IS A PARTICULAR
00:27:10.53\00:27:13.19
APPROPRIATE CYCLE THAT
-- THAT SHOULD BE APPROACHED
00:27:13.19\00:27:15.36
WHEN -- WHEN YOU ARE
DEALING WITH EVANGELISM.
00:27:15.36\00:27:17.60
I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS
SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO SAY
00:27:17.60\00:27:21.44
ABOUT THAT, OR
-- >> YES, THERE IS.
00:27:21.44\00:27:23.74
I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE
OTHER COMMENT BEFORE THAT.
00:27:23.74\00:27:28.38
WHEN THE LAY PEOPLE THINK ABOUT
THE LOCAL PASTOR OR CHURCH, THEY
00:27:28.38\00:27:32.45
ASSUME THAT THAT
PASTOR BELONGS TO THE CHURCH.
00:27:32.45\00:27:34.92
BUT REALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
CHURCH MANUAL, THE PASTOR IS A
00:27:34.92\00:27:38.85
REPRESENTATIVE OF
THE CONFERENCE THERE.
00:27:38.85\00:27:40.76
SO THE PASTOR IS NOT THERE
TO DO THE WORK OF THE CHURCH.
00:27:40.76\00:27:44.19
IT IS THERE TO
ORGANIZE THE WORK OF THE CHURCH.
00:27:44.19\00:27:47.13
AND IT HAS BEEN -- IT IS, AND
ALWAYS WILL BE THE WORK OF THE
00:27:47.13\00:27:51.53
LOCAL CHURCH TO PLAN
THEIR -- THEIR -- THE OUTREACH
00:27:51.53\00:27:53.97
INTO THE COMMUNITY AND
THEIR EVANGELISM, SO WE DON'T
00:27:53.97\00:27:58.04
WANT -- YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT
THE PASTOR GOING IN THERE LAYING
00:27:58.04\00:28:02.71
PLANS. WE WANT
THE PATOR TO GUIDE THE
00:28:02.71\00:28:04.71
PLANS THAT THE CHURCH MAKES,
THAT WAY IF THAT PASTOR DOES
00:28:04.71\00:28:09.35
MOVE OR GOES TO ANOTHER PLACE,
THE WORK OF THE CHURCH CAN CARRY
00:28:09.35\00:28:14.66
ON, BECAUSE THE HAVE THE PLAN
THAT THEY HAVE MADE AND THE LORD
00:28:14.66\00:28:17.53
HAS GIVEN THEM. >>
AND DO YOU THINK THAT HELP
00:28:17.53\00:28:20.50
WITH THE LEVEL OF
COMMITMENT? >> YES, ABSOLUTELY.
00:28:20.50\00:28:24.13
ABSOLUTELY. >>
THERE'S NO QUESTION.
00:28:24.13\00:28:25.60
>> SO IN THIS PROJECT THAT I WAS
GOING TO MENTION, WE'RE SEEING
00:28:25.60\00:28:29.30
THE CHURCH BEGIN TO REALIZE
THIS, THE ROLE OF THE PASTOR,
00:28:29.30\00:28:32.67
THE ROLE OF THE MEMBER, BECAUSE
WE LIVE IN KIND OF A SPECIALIST
00:28:32.67\00:28:36.64
WORLD WHERE I HAVE A DOCTOR THAT
TAKES CARE OF MY HEALTH NEEDS, A
00:28:36.64\00:28:42.12
DENTIST THAT TAKES CARE OF
MY TEETH, AND THEN I HAVE THE
00:28:42.12\00:28:45.92
PASTOR THAT TAKES CARE
OF THE SPIRITUAL PIECE.
00:28:45.92\00:28:48.26
WE WANT THE PEOPLE TO
SEE THAT WE'RE ALL MINISTERS.
00:28:48.26\00:28:51.19
THAT WE'RE ALL PRIESTS, THAT
GOD WANTS US -- NOT THE ROLE OF
00:28:51.19\00:28:56.67
PASTORS, BUT EVERY PERSON IS
CALLED TO THE LABOR OF THE LORD.
00:28:56.67\00:29:00.67
SO IT'S A PROCESS THAT
JESUS CAVE IN THE BIBLE, THE
00:29:00.67\00:29:04.57
EVANGELISM CYCLE, WHERE WE HAVE
FIVE PHASES TO THE CYCLE, AND HE
00:29:04.57\00:29:09.64
USES THE
AGRICULTURAL MODEL TO DO THAT.
00:29:09.64\00:29:12.68
SO THOSE FIVE PHASES -- I
BELIEVE WE HAVE A GRAPHIC ON
00:29:12.68\00:29:16.48
THAT, BUT THE FIVE
PHASES ARE PREPARING THE SOIL.
00:29:16.48\00:29:21.52
ANY TIME YOU WANT TO PLANT,
YOU WANT TO PREPARE THE SOIL.
00:29:21.52\00:29:24.86
THEN YOU WANT TO PLANT THE SEED,
AND YOU WANT ALSO TO CULTIVATE
00:29:24.86\00:29:29.56
THAT SPEED ONCE IT SPROUTS,
AND THEN AS IT GROWS, EVENTUALLY
00:29:29.56\00:29:37.57
THERE IS FRUIT, AND YOU ARE
GOING TO HARVEST THAT AND AFTER
00:29:37.57\00:29:41.11
YOU HARVEST, YOU
WANT TO PRESERVE IT.
00:29:41.11\00:29:43.65
AND THERE ARE A LOT OF CHURCHES
THAT ARE BUSY, AND REALLY, THIS
00:29:43.65\00:29:47.32
GROW MODEL WAS INITIATED IN
MICHIGAN, BUT IT HAS NOW GROWN
00:29:47.32\00:29:51.85
TO A WORLD
CONFERENCE INITIATIVE.
00:29:51.85\00:29:54.59
JIM HOWARD IS NOW AT THE GENERAL
CONFERENCE, AND HE IS THE
00:29:54.59\00:29:59.19
PERSONAL ASSOCIATE IN PERSONAL
MINISTRIES THERE, AND HE IS
00:29:59.19\00:30:02.23
DOING IT. AND
THERE IS A WEBSITE,
00:30:02.23\00:30:09.47
GROW.ADVENTIST.ORG
THAT PEOPLE CAN GO TO.
00:30:09.47\00:30:11.74
SO THESE FIVE PHASES ARE
CRUCIAL IF A CHURCH WANT TOSS BE
00:30:11.74\00:30:16.51
SUCCESSFUL. IF YOU
ARE JUST PLANTING SEEDS
00:30:16.51\00:30:19.48
WITHOUT PREPARING THE SOIL, THEN
YOU ARE GOING TO GET A LOT OF
00:30:19.48\00:30:24.55
STUFF YOU DON'T WANT.
YOU CAN ALSO GO OUT THERE AND
00:30:24.55\00:30:28.32
JUST PLOW ALL DAY LONG, AND YOU
CAN KEEP PLOWING OVER AND OVER
00:30:28.32\00:30:32.96
AGAIN AND NEVER PLANT SEEDS.
SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES OF
00:30:32.96\00:30:38.07
MINISTRY. >> RIGHT.
00:30:38.07\00:30:38.80
>> CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE
DIFFERENT TYPES OF MINISTRY THAT
00:30:38.80\00:30:42.64
GOES ALONG WITH EACH
PHASE. >> IN PREPARING THE SOIL,
00:30:42.64\00:30:47.21
OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE GOT TO DO
SOMETHING THAT REACHES PEOPLE,
00:30:47.21\00:30:49.61
AND BEGINS TO CONNECT WITH THEM.
IT MAY BE HEALTH EVENT, OR A
00:30:49.61\00:30:55.58
VACATION BIBLE SCHOOL.
SO MANY TIMES WE DO VACATION
00:30:55.58\00:30:59.49
BIBLE SCHOOL AS AN EVENT, AND
THEN DON'T FOLLOW UP WITH IT,
00:30:59.49\00:31:03.86
BUT WE HAVE PLANTED SEED, AND
THAT IS THE NEXT PHASE OF IT.
00:31:03.86\00:31:07.10
YOU HAVE GOT THE PEOPLE THERE,
YOU PREPARED THE SOIL ENOUGH TO
00:31:07.10\00:31:10.80
GET THEM THERE, THEN YOU BEGIN
TO PLANT THE SEED AND TEACHING
00:31:10.80\00:31:15.50
THEM TRUTH. AT A
HEALTH CLASS THEY MAY LEARN
00:31:15.50\00:31:19.07
ABOUT PHYSICAL HEALTH AND
SPIRITUAL COMPONENTS, AND THEN
00:31:19.07\00:31:24.65
YOU FIGURE OUT HOW
TO CONNECT WITH THEM.
00:31:24.65\00:31:27.72
BACK TO THE VACATION BIBLE
SCHOOL PROGRAM, YOU CAN FOLLOW
00:31:27.72\00:31:32.42
UP WITH A STORY HOUR
OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
00:31:32.42\00:31:36.32
NOW YOU ARE CULTIVATING THAT
RELATIONSHIP, DEVELOPING THAT
00:31:36.32\00:31:39.93
SEED AND IT BEGINS
TO GERMINATE AND GROW.
00:31:39.93\00:31:42.33
THROUGH THE KIDS YOU
ARE REACHING THE PARENTS.
00:31:42.33\00:31:44.57
THE PARENTS ARE GETTING
CONNECTED WITH THIS ALL.
00:31:44.57\00:31:49.00
AND WHETHER IT'S A HEALTH
CLASS OR WHATEVER THAT WE ARE
00:31:49.00\00:31:54.14
CONTINUING THIS CULTIVATION,
AND THEN WE GET INTO HARVESTING.
00:31:54.14\00:31:57.88
AND HARVESTING IS THAT OUTREACH
EVENT, MAYBE IT'S JESUS ON
00:31:57.88\00:32:01.95
PROPHECY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT,
AND THAT EVENTUALLY LEADS US
00:32:01.95\00:32:05.85
TO -- ONCE WE HAVE HARVESTED,
NOW WE WANT TO BEGIN TO
00:32:05.85\00:32:11.33
REDEVELOP THAT CYCLE. WE
WANT TO PRESERVE THE HARVEST
00:32:11.33\00:32:15.26
BY DISCIPLING THOSE NEW MEMBERS,
AND THAT LEADS US INTO A
00:32:15.26\00:32:20.54
DISCIPLESHIP PHASE, YOU CAN TALK
MORE ABOUT THAT IN A MOMENT.
00:32:20.54\00:32:26.41
BUT THAT'S THAT FULL CYCLE WHERE
WE SIT DOWN AND START TEACHING
00:32:26.41\00:32:29.74
THEM INDIVIDUALLY HOW TO
BE A DISCIPLE THEMSELVES.
00:32:29.74\00:32:32.75
>> I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU GUYS TO
TOUCH ON THE PRESERVATION ASPECT
00:32:32.75\00:32:36.92
OF IT. BECAUSE I
THINK A LOT OF TIMES
00:32:36.92\00:32:39.92
WHAT HAPPENS IS PEOPLE GO
OUT. THEY WIN SOULS FOR CHRIST.
00:32:39.92\00:32:43.69
THEY GET THEM INTO THE CHURCH,
BUT THEN SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T
00:32:43.69\00:32:48.60
EMBRACE THEM AS THEY COME IN.
A VISITOR CAN COME, AND NOBODY
00:32:48.60\00:32:52.23
EVEN CAME UP TO THEM. SO
TOUCH ON THE PRESERVATION
00:32:52.23\00:32:56.27
PIECE, AND WHY
THAT'S THAT IS SO IMPORTANT.
00:32:56.27\00:32:58.77
>> THAT PERSONAL MENTORSHIP IS
SO IMPORTANT AFTER A PERSON IS
00:32:58.77\00:33:02.71
BAPTIZED. THEY COME
INTO THE CHURCH, AND
00:33:02.71\00:33:04.58
THEY ARE THINKING, I HAVE HEARD
ALL OF THESE WONDERFUL TRUTHS.
00:33:04.58\00:33:08.95
I HAVE GIVEN MY LIFE TO CHRIST.
I HAVE BEEN APP -- BAPTIZED, BUT
00:33:08.95\00:33:16.46
NOW WHAT? A LOT OF
TIMES THERE IS A LOT OF
00:33:16.46\00:33:20.80
EFFORT BRINGING A PERSON INTO
THE CHURCH, BUT ONCE THEY ARE
00:33:20.80\00:33:25.77
BAPTIZED, THEN
THEY LEAVE THEM ALONE.
00:33:25.77\00:33:27.37
NOW YOU ARE A CHURCH MEMBER SO
YOU SHOULD KNOW EVERYBODY THAT
00:33:27.37\00:33:30.21
YOU NEED TO DO NOW, AND
OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
00:33:30.21\00:33:34.28
ANYONE THAT HA COME INTO THE
CHURCH UNDERSTANDS THAT THERE IS
00:33:34.28\00:33:37.11
A LOT OF GROWTH THAT TAKES
PLACE AFTER BAPTISM, SO THAT
00:33:37.11\00:33:42.22
MENTORSHIP IS SO IMPORTANT,
THAT THE PERSON HAS SPIRITUAL
00:33:42.22\00:33:46.19
-FRIENDS. THEY HAVE A MENTOR.
NOW IN MICHIGAN, AND I -- YOU
00:33:46.19\00:33:49.26
KNOW, I -- I WAS SOMEWHAT A PART
OF THIS PROCESS, BUT THERE WAS A
00:33:49.26\00:33:54.66
COMMITTEE THAT DEVELOPED A
DISCIPLESHIP HANDBOOK AND HAS
00:33:54.66\00:33:59.37
THE A MENTOR'S GUIDE WITH IT,
AND IT GOES THROUGH, BASICALLY,
00:33:59.37\00:34:04.01
EVERY WEEK THAT MENTOR AND
THAT NEW MEMBER HAVE A MEETING
00:34:04.01\00:34:07.58
TOGETHER. >> RIGHT.
00:34:07.58\00:34:08.31
>> AND THEY WILL VISIT TOGETHER.
THEY HAVE A CHAPTER THAT THEY
00:34:08.31\00:34:12.18
READ A THEN THEY -- THEY TALK
ABOUT THAT CHAPTER, AND THERE
00:34:12.18\00:34:16.12
ARE SPECIFIC GOALS FOR
THAT PERSON EVERY WEEK, AND THE
00:34:16.12\00:34:19.79
MENTOR HAS A JOB TO,
LIKE, CONNECT THAT PERSON WITH A
00:34:19.79\00:34:24.43
FAMILY IN THE CHURCH, MAYBE
FOR A SABBATH DINNER OR WALK OR
00:34:24.43\00:34:29.23
THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, AND
IT'S A REALLY POWERFUL PROCESS.
00:34:29.23\00:34:34.10
AND THAT IS NOW A
GENERAL CONFERENCE RESOURCE.
00:34:34.10\00:34:36.81
AND PEOPLE CAN GET THAT
THROUGH THE GENERAL CONFERENCE.
00:34:36.81\00:34:40.61
IT'S AVAILABLE AT THE
ABC, ANYBODY CAN GET IT.
00:34:40.61\00:34:44.31
BUT IT'S VERY POWERFUL. SO
WE HAVE DEVELOPED THAT WE ARE
00:34:44.31\00:34:47.78
SOURCE THAT IS VERY, VERY, I
THINK, SPECIFIC IN HELPING THAT
00:34:47.78\00:34:52.92
PERSON GROW AS A NEW MEMBER.
HELPING THEM UNDERSTAND THEIR
00:34:52.92\00:34:57.13
ROLE AS A NEW MEMBER.
ACTUALLY BECOMING A MISSIONARY
00:34:57.13\00:35:01.86
THEMSELVES, AND TALKS
ABOUT JANUARY -- EVANGELISM, AND
00:35:01.86\00:35:09.10
CHURCH HISTORY. >> I
LOVE THAT GOAL-ORIENTED
00:35:09.10\00:35:13.14
APPROACH. >> AMEN.
00:35:13.14\00:35:14.04
>> I JUST WANT TO TAG ON
THAT. AT -- ONE OF THOSE KEY
00:35:14.04\00:35:19.01
COMPONENTS THERE, AND YOU
JUST ALLUDEDED IT TO, IS THAT
00:35:19.01\00:35:25.09
PERSONAL DEVOTIONAL DEVICE.
PEOPLE WILL STAY WHEN THEY ARE
00:35:25.09\00:35:29.29
CONNECTED WITH CHRIST.
AND TOGETHER WITH ALL OF THOSE
00:35:29.29\00:35:33.36
COMPONENTS, THEY
BECOME REAL DISCIPLES.
00:35:33.36\00:35:36.36
THAT'S THE PRESERVATION. >>
AND ELDER JIM HOWARD WAS THE
00:35:36.36\00:35:40.74
PRIMARY AUTHOR, ELDER RINGSTAFF,
ELDER [ INAUDIBLE ] IS OUR
00:35:40.74\00:35:47.81
PERSONAL MINISTRIES
DIRECTOR NOW, AND OUR EXECUTIVE
00:35:47.81\00:35:52.65
CONFERENCE SECRETARY, AND THERE
WERE OTHERS INVOLVED, BUT THOSE
00:35:52.65\00:35:58.02
GUYS REALLY DROVE THAT,
AND IT'S A BEAUTIFUL THING.
00:35:58.02\00:36:01.12
>> AMEN. PASTOR
BENTLEY, I HAVE HAD MANY
00:36:01.12\00:36:05.53
PHONE CALLS FROM PASTORS CALL
ME UP AS AN EVANGELIST AND SAY,
00:36:05.53\00:36:09.80
HEY, WE'RE RIPE AND READY
FOR AN EVANGELISTIC SERIES.
00:36:09.80\00:36:15.27
IT'S ABOUT TIME TO DO THAT
AGAIN, AND, YOU KNOW, AS I BEGIN
00:36:15.27\00:36:19.21
TO TALK WITH THEM AND ASK
QUESTIONS, I FIND THAT -- YOU
00:36:19.21\00:36:23.01
KNOW, NOT ALL -- BUT
MANY -- MANY CHURCHES -- IT'S
00:36:23.01\00:36:26.75
KIND OF LIKE AN EXPECTATION.
LIKE THIS IS JUST WHAT WE'RE
00:36:26.75\00:36:30.59
SUPPOSED TO DO, BUT THEY
SKIP STEP ONE, TWO, AND THREE.
00:36:30.59\00:36:34.26
THERE IS NO PREPARATION,
PLANTING, OR CULTIVATING, BUT
00:36:34.26\00:36:38.73
THEY ARE RIPE AND READY TO
ACCEPT THAT HARVEST, AND AS A
00:36:38.73\00:36:42.50
PASTOR, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU DO
TO GET THE LOCAL CHURCH INVOLVED
00:36:42.50\00:36:46.27
IN AND HOW DO
YOU ENCOURAGE THEM?
00:36:46.27\00:36:48.47
I KNOW THAT'S PROBABLY ONE
OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES AS
00:36:48.47\00:36:52.44
PASTOR? >> IT CERTAINLY IS.
00:36:52.44\00:36:53.81
AND THE CHALLENGE IS, IT'S NOT
AN EASY ANSWER OR SHORT ANSWER.
00:36:53.81\00:36:57.61
BUT I THINK JUST RECOGNIZING
THAT EVERYBODY CAN DO SOMETHING.
00:36:57.61\00:37:00.48
>> RIGHT. >> RIGHT?
00:37:00.48\00:37:01.78
AND NOT MAKING THE
ASSUMPTION -- YOU KNOW, JUST AS
00:37:01.78\00:37:05.25
YOU I THINK ABOUT THE BODY.
THE EAR DOESN'T DO THE SAME
00:37:05.25\00:37:09.39
THING AS A FOOT. RIGHT?
00:37:09.39\00:37:12.76
SO RECOGNIZING THAT
EVERYBODY CAN DO SOMETHING --
00:37:12.76\00:37:14.93
>> ABSOLUTELY. >> --
AND THEN WORKING WITH THE
00:37:14.93\00:37:18.67
CONGREGATION, WORKING WITH
THE MEMBERS, BUILDING THOSE
00:37:18.67\00:37:21.97
RELATIONSHIPS, AS A PASTOR,
JUST LIKE THE SHEPHERD WITH THE
00:37:21.97\00:37:28.78
SHEEP, IF I DON'T SPEND TIME
WITH THEM, THEY DON'T KNOW THAT
00:37:28.78\00:37:32.28
I LOVE THEM. SO MY
APPROACH, AND I THINK MANY
00:37:32.28\00:37:35.55
OTHERS PROBABLY
DO THE SAME THING.
00:37:35.55\00:37:37.59
GET TO KNOW YOUR PEOPLE,
AND FIND WAYS FOR THEM TO SERVE.
00:37:37.59\00:37:41.16
ONE LADY THAT IS JUST INCREDIBLE
TO ME AT OUR METRO CHURCH, SHE
00:37:41.16\00:37:46.06
HAS JUST A BURNING
PASSION TO PASS OUT GLOW TRACKS.
00:37:46.06\00:37:50.50
AND WE ALL KNOW THAT GLOW
TRACKS -- IT'S NOT HARD TO
00:37:50.50\00:37:54.07
CARRY. ESPECIALLY
SOME OF THE CARRY ON
00:37:54.07\00:37:58.21
LUGGAGE THAT MANY LADIES HAVE
WITH THEM AT ALL TIMES, THEY
00:37:58.21\00:38:03.98
HAVE PLENTY OF
ROOM FOR GLOW TRACKS.
00:38:03.98\00:38:07.55
THIS LADY AND HER HUSBAND
HAVE PASSED OUT OVER 30,000 GLOW
00:38:07.55\00:38:12.09
TRACKS. ANN
DOESN'T DRIVE, SO SHE MAKES
00:38:12.09\00:38:14.86
HER DAD DRIVE HER AROUND,
AND THEY GO ALL OVER THE METRO
00:38:14.86\00:38:19.13
DETROIT AREA, AND THEY
-- YOU CAN'T STOP THEM.
00:38:19.13\00:38:23.67
AND I KNOW WHEN
WE ARE GETTING LOW.
00:38:23.67\00:38:26.23
BECAUSE SHE WILL CALL ME.
WE'RE LOW ON THIS GLOW TRACK.
00:38:26.23\00:38:29.64
WHEN ARE YOU
GETTING THIS GLOW TRACK?
00:38:29.64\00:38:32.37
AND I'M LIKE,
CALL OUR COORDINATOR.
00:38:32.37\00:38:35.94
SO PRAISE GOD. >> YEAH.
00:38:35.94\00:38:37.51
>> FIND SOMETHING FOR EVERYBODY.
AND THAT'S HER THING, AND SHE
00:38:37.51\00:38:41.02
DOES IT WELL, AND
GOD BLESS HER SOUL.
00:38:41.02\00:38:43.85
>> AND I KNOW EVEN FROM A
CONFERENCE PERSPECTIVE, GOD HAS
00:38:43.85\00:38:48.09
BLESSED OUR CHURCH WITH THE
FUNDS AND THE ABILITY TO DO THIS
00:38:48.09\00:38:51.23
PUBLIC EVANGELISM, AND IT
IS -- IT COSTS MONEY, AND IT'S
00:38:51.23\00:38:54.83
NOT CHEAP, YOU KNOW, TO
DO THESE TYPE OF EFFORTS.
00:38:54.83\00:38:57.67
I JUST RECENTLY HEARD OF A
CONFERENCE THAT I HAVE DONE MANY
00:38:57.67\00:39:02.57
EVANGELISTIC SERIES IN,
THEY HAVE TAKEN A MORE DIRECT
00:39:02.57\00:39:06.51
APPROACH OF BEFORE THEY LEND THE
FUNDS, THEY MAKE SURE THAT EACH
00:39:06.51\00:39:11.25
CHURCH HAS AN EVANGELIST PLAN
A YEAR IN ADVANCE BEFORE THEY
00:39:11.25\00:39:15.55
START HANDING OUT MONEY.
AND I WAS REALLY APPRECIATIVE TO
00:39:15.55\00:39:19.69
HEAR THAT. AND I'M
EXCITED FOR WHAT IS
00:39:19.69\00:39:21.99
HAPPENING IN THE
MICHIGAN CONFERENCE.
00:39:21.99\00:39:24.39
>> PRAISE THE LORD.
>> WE BELIEVE IN PUBLIC
00:39:24.39\00:39:27.76
EVANGELISM, BUT WE ALSO
UNDERSTAND THAT IS JUST ONE OF
00:39:27.76\00:39:30.87
THE FIVE PHASE
OF AN OVERALL CYCLE.
00:39:30.87\00:39:33.67
>> THAT'S TRUE. >> AND
WE HAVE THIS MOTTO, GROW
00:39:33.67\00:39:37.94
MICHIGAN, AND THAT'S OUR
EVANGELISM CYCLE, THE FIVE
00:39:37.94\00:39:41.34
PHASES. >> AMEN.
00:39:41.34\00:39:42.31
>> AND WE HAVE PHASES
THAT WE IMPLEMENT IN EACH ONE.
00:39:42.31\00:39:48.32
AND ONE OF THOSE IS
BIBLESTUDYOFFER.COM.
00:39:48.32\00:39:55.82
AND PEOPLE CAN GO ONLINE AND
REQUEST BIBLE STUDIES, AND WE
00:39:55.82\00:39:59.19
HAVE LITERATURE THAT WE PASS
OUT TO PEOPLE, AND THEN THEY GO
00:39:59.19\00:40:03.80
ONLINE TO SIGN UP
FOR BIBLE STUDIES.
00:40:03.80\00:40:06.23
WE HAVE HAD -- IN THE LAST FIVE
YEARS OR SO, WE HAVE HAD OVER
00:40:06.23\00:40:10.87
7,000 REQUESTS
FOR BIBLE STUDIES.
00:40:10.87\00:40:13.01
>> PRAISE GOD. >> AND
MANY OF THOSE ARE ACTIVE
00:40:13.01\00:40:15.54
NOW. SOME FALL
AWAY, BUT WE HAVE HAD
00:40:15.54\00:40:18.21
A NUMBER OF BAPTISMS FROM THAT,
AND WE HAVE HAD SO MANY PEOPLE
00:40:18.21\00:40:22.72
REQUESTING, AND THERE ARE
SEVERAL THOUSAND RIGHT NOW THAT
00:40:22.72\00:40:25.62
ARE STILL ACTIVE IN BIBLE
STUDY. SO THAT'S PART OF THAT
00:40:25.62\00:40:30.06
CULTIVATING PHASE. AND
WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE
00:40:30.06\00:40:32.89
HARVESTING PHASE, BUT WE HAVE
HAD UNLOCK REVELATION AND NOW
00:40:32.89\00:40:36.50
WE'RE BEGINNING TO LAUNCH THAT
OTHER ONE, SO WE REALLY WANT TO
00:40:36.50\00:40:41.34
SEE ELDER BENTLEY TALK ABOUT
THE LITERATURE AND THE BIBLE
00:40:41.34\00:40:45.01
STUDIES, BUT REALLY THE
SUCCESS COMES WHEN YOU TAKE BOTH
00:40:45.01\00:40:48.44
PERSONAL AND PUBLIC EVANGELISM
AND BLESS -- PUT THOSE TOGETHER.
00:40:48.44\00:40:52.75
THAT'S REALLY KIND OF THE TWO
WINGS OF EVANGELISTIC SUCCESS,
00:40:52.75\00:40:57.32
AND MANY CHURCHES ARE NOT
-- AGAIN, SOMETIMES FINDING
00:40:57.32\00:41:00.39
THAT SUCCESS, BECAUSE THEY ARE
NEGLECTING ONE OR THE OTHER, AND
00:41:00.39\00:41:05.93
SO -- BUT WHEN WE PUT THEM
TOGETHER, EVANGELISM REALLY DOES
00:41:05.93\00:41:09.93
STILL WORK. >> SO IF
SOMEBODY IS WANTING TO
00:41:09.93\00:41:13.10
GIVE SOMEBODY A BIBLE STUDY, IF
SOMEBODY IS WANTING TO STUDY THE
00:41:13.10\00:41:17.04
WORD OF GOD WITH AN INDIVIDUAL,
WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND?
00:41:17.04\00:41:20.04
WHERE SHOULD
THEY START? >> SURE.
00:41:20.04\00:41:22.11
THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
YOU KNOW, I -- I ALWAYS START
00:41:22.11\00:41:25.58
WITH THAT RELATIONSHIP, AND
I WILL USUALLY -- FOR ME I WILL
00:41:25.58\00:41:29.65
TEAR MY TESTIMONY WITH
THAT PERSON, AND THEN I JUST ASK
00:41:29.65\00:41:33.22
THEM, HEY, WOULD YOU BE
INTERESTED IN STUDYING THE
00:41:33.22\00:41:36.69
BIBLE? AND THERE
ARE SO MANY PEOPLE
00:41:36.69\00:41:38.29
TODAY THAT ARE
ASKING SPIRITUAL QUESTIONS.
00:41:38.29\00:41:40.90
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >> A
LOT OF TIME PEOPLE WILL ASK
00:41:40.90\00:41:44.57
YOU A QUESION. AND I
ALWAYS SAY, HEY, I HAVE A
00:41:44.57\00:41:48.84
GREAT SET OF BIBLE STUDIES THAT
GO RIGHT OVER THOSE QUESTIONS
00:41:48.84\00:41:52.07
YOU ARE ASKING ME. WHY
DON'T WE GET TOGETHER AND
00:41:52.07\00:41:56.71
STUDY? AND VERY
FEW PEOPLE SAY NO.
00:41:56.71\00:41:58.55
AND THERE ARE A
NUMBER OF LESSONS OUT THERE.
00:41:58.55\00:42:01.55
WE USE THE IT IS
WRITTEN BIBLE STUDY GUIDES.
00:42:01.55\00:42:05.12
WE ALWAYS USE AMAZING FACTS,
THOSE ARE THE TWO WE USE, BUT
00:42:05.12\00:42:09.66
THERE ARE A LOT OF
GREAT BIBLE STUDIES OUT THERE.
00:42:09.66\00:42:14.46
SO PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS SEARCHING,
AND IF WE'RE NOT IN TUNE WITH
00:42:14.46\00:42:18.03
THE LORD OURSELVES, WE CAN WALK
RIGHT PAST THAT OPPORTUNITY, BUT
00:42:18.03\00:42:22.50
IF WE'RE IN TUN, GOD WILL
BRING THOSE DIVINE APPOINTMENTS.
00:42:22.50\00:42:27.21
>> ABSOLUTELY. AND
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO FILL THAT
00:42:27.21\00:42:30.91
VOID WITH ALCOHOL. SOME
PEOPLE TRY TO FILL THE VOID
00:42:30.91\00:42:34.35
WITH MONEY. SOME
PEOPLE TRY TO FILL THAT
00:42:34.35\00:42:36.58
VOID WITH A WOMAN OR A MAN,
OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
00:42:36.58\00:42:40.56
PEOPLE ARE SEARCHING TO FILL
THAT EMPTINESS, BUT THE ONLY ONE
00:42:40.56\00:42:48.10
THAT CAN FILL THAT
EMPTINESS IS JESUS CHRIST.
00:42:48.10\00:42:50.93
>> ABSOLUTELY. >>
DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING?
00:42:50.93\00:42:53.10
>> NO. >> OH, SO
BY THE GRACE OF GOD
00:42:53.10\00:42:57.01
WE'RE STRIVING TO PROVIDE
RESOURCES AND MINISTRIES IN ALL
00:42:57.01\00:43:01.11
FIVE PHASES, SO THAT WAY OUR
SUCCESS CAN BE FROM THE LORD
AND-HE CAN PROSPER THAT.
00:43:01.11\00:43:07.22
SO, YOU KNOW, WE -- AS WE WERE
LOOKING AT OUR MISSION, WE HAD
00:43:07.22\00:43:10.05
ALL OF THESE THINGS IN LINE,
AND WE SAID, YOU KNOW, REALLY,
00:43:10.05\00:43:14.16
MESSAGE DRIVES
MISSION. AND WE RECOGNIZED THAT.
00:43:14.16\00:43:19.26
IT'S GOING TO MESSAGE -- WHEN WE
UNDERSTAND -- PEOPLE TODAY ARE
00:43:19.26\00:43:23.13
TALKING ABOUT, LET'S DO
MISSION. LET'S DO MISSION.
00:43:23.13\00:43:26.33
LET'S DO MISSION.
AND YOU THINK ABOUT IT.
00:43:26.33\00:43:29.24
AND YOU SAY, OKAY, BUT WHAT
EXACTLY ARE YOU SHARING IN YOUR
00:43:29.24\00:43:33.58
MISSION? SO THE
BIBLE GIVES US A -- A
00:43:33.58\00:43:36.61
MANDATE FOR MISSION. >> RIGHT.
00:43:36.61\00:43:38.11
>> BUT IT ALSO GIVES US THE
MESSAGE THAT WE MUST BE SHARING.
00:43:38.11\00:43:42.72
>> UH-HUH. >> AND
SO AS WE STUDY THROUGH
00:43:42.72\00:43:47.22
THAT, WE UNDERSTAND
OUR FUNDAMENTAL BELIEF AS
00:43:47.22\00:43:49.86
CHRISTIANS, AS SEVENTH-DAY
ADVENTISTS, THE THREE ANGELS'
00:43:49.86\00:43:54.56
MESSAGES, ET CETERA, ALL OF
THOSE THINGS PROVIDE THE MESSAGE
00:43:54.56\00:43:58.37
WE ARE TO SHARE WITH THE WORLD.
SO IN MICHIGAN WE BEGAN TO SAY,
00:43:58.37\00:44:02.70
WE WANT TO STUDY
THIS MESSAGE AGAIN.
00:44:02.70\00:44:04.71
SO WE AS A CONFERENCE
BEGAN TO COME TOGETHER.
00:44:04.71\00:44:09.18
WE MADE IT VOLUNTARY, BUT TWICE
A YEAR WE HAD WHAT WE CALLED
00:44:09.18\00:44:12.98
PRAYER AND FASTING, AND WE WOULD
INVITE OUR PASTORS TO COME FOR A
00:44:12.98\00:44:17.79
COUPLE OF SOMEDAYS, AND THEY
WOULD FAST HOWEVER THEY WANTED
00:44:17.79\00:44:22.16
TO, BUT WE CAME TOGETHER AND WE
WOULD SPEND DAYS AND JUST LOCK
00:44:22.16\00:44:25.66
OURSELVES UP IN OUR CAMP, AND
WE WOULD SPEND DAYS JUST PRAYING
00:44:25.66\00:44:31.07
TOGETHER AND FASTING TOGETHER
AND STUDYING THE BIBLE TOGETHER.
00:44:31.07\00:44:34.70
AND THEN THERE WAS AN EMPHASIS
THAT CAME OUT OF THAT ON
00:44:34.70\00:44:39.17
RIGHTEOUSNESS BY FAITH,
AND REALLY FEELING A BURDEN AND
00:44:39.17\00:44:44.35
CONVICTION TO
UNDERSTAND THAT MORE DEEPLY.
00:44:44.35\00:44:46.15
>> ABSOLUTELY. >>
ELDER, MAYBE YOU WANT TO ADD
00:44:46.15\00:44:49.32
TO THAT. >>
YES, THANK YOU, ELDER
00:44:49.32\00:44:52.99
PEPPERS, IN THAT ENVIRONMENT
OF PRAYER AND FASTING, WE'RE
00:44:52.99\00:44:57.56
REMINDED THAT ALL OF THESE
BROTHERS AND SISTERS STEPS ARE
00:44:57.56\00:45:01.76
ALL INVLUABLE AND IMPORTANT TO
DO, BUT OF NO VALUE IF YOU DON'T
00:45:01.76\00:45:05.33
HAVE JESUS CHRIST AT THE CENTER,
IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE SPIRIT OF
00:45:05.33\00:45:09.84
GOD WORKING. WE'RE
ALL PRAYING FOR REVIVAL
00:45:09.84\00:45:15.58
AND REFORMATION
THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT.
00:45:15.58\00:45:26.19
AND AS WE WERE DOING THIS TIME
OF FASTING AND PRAYER AND -- AND
00:45:26.19\00:45:29.69
THE REMINDER FROM THE SPIRIT
OF GOD THAT RIGHTEOUSNESS IS BY
00:45:29.69\00:45:34.40
FAITH AND NOT BY OUR WORKS,
WE WANTED TO SAY, WAIT A MINUTE,
00:45:34.40\00:45:40.20
UNDERSTANDING THAT IS -- IS OUR
MESSAGE THAT DRIVES OUR MISSION
00:45:40.20\00:45:44.51
CLEARLY
CENTERED ON JESUS CHRIST?
00:45:44.51\00:45:46.61
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >>
AND SO WE HAD TO GO BACK
00:45:46.61\00:45:49.44
AND -- AND REALLY LOOK BACK
AT THAT, AND ELDER PEPPERS, I
00:45:49.44\00:45:54.05
REMEMBER, TIMES WHEN YOU AND
I HAVE SAT DOWN AND OUR PASTORS
00:45:54.05\00:45:57.95
TOGETHER AND WE ARE
SAYING HOW -- HOW DO WE DO THIS?
00:45:57.95\00:46:02.26
THE WAY WE HAVE BEEN DOING
IT ISN'T THE WAY IT NEEDS TO BE
00:46:02.26\00:46:06.46
DONE. >> ABSOLUTELY.
00:46:06.46\00:46:07.56
>> TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
HOW WE BEGAN TO HAVE TO SAY,
00:46:07.56\00:46:11.13
LET'S LOOK AT THIS
CAREFULLY AND NOW WHAT?
00:46:11.13\00:46:13.87
>> YEAH, AS WE STUDIED IT, WE
WEREN'T SURE WHERE IT WAS GOING
00:46:13.87\00:46:17.44
TO GO. >> SURE.
00:46:17.44\00:46:19.31
>> BUT WE HAD THIS CONVICTION
THAT -- WE ALWAYS PREACHED
00:46:19.31\00:46:23.95
CHRIST IN OUR EVANGELISM.
WE HEAR PEOPLE SAY I GO TO
00:46:23.95\00:46:28.52
EVANGELISTIC MEETINGS, AND I
DON'T HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT JESUS.
00:46:28.52\00:46:31.59
AND I WOULD HAVE
TO DISAGREE WITH THAT.
00:46:31.59\00:46:34.82
>> SURE. >> BUT
W THOUGHT, ARE WE
00:46:34.82\00:46:37.39
PUTTING CHRIST AS THE GREATEST
FOCAL POINT, AS THE GREATEST
00:46:37.39\00:46:41.73
CENTERPIECE OF OUR MESSAGE?
AND AR WE PREACHING HIM IN THE
00:46:41.73\00:46:45.03
FULLNESS THAT WE
COULD? >> UH-HUH.
00:46:45.03\00:46:47.17
>> AND AS WE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT,
AND AS WE PRAYED ABOUT THAT, I
00:46:47.17\00:46:51.14
THINK WE CAME TO THE CONCLUSION
THAT GOD WAS LEADING US TO THE
00:46:51.14\00:46:55.21
PLACE WHERE SOMETHING NEDED TO
CHANGE, AND WE REALIZED I DON'T
00:46:55.21\00:47:00.75
THINK WE ARE PREACHING
HIM AS FULLY AS GOD DESIRES.
00:47:00.75\00:47:05.82
WE THE FOURTH ANGEL COMING DOWN
AND LIGHTING THE WORLD WITH THE
00:47:05.82\00:47:09.56
GLORY OF GOD, AND WE SAID, YOU
KNOW, WE HAVE GOT TO PUT CHRIST
00:47:09.56\00:47:15.46
AS -- MORE AS
THE CENTER. >> SURE.
00:47:15.46\00:47:17.93
>> NOW SOME PEOPLE THINK IN
THEIR MIND THAT -- WHAT THAT
00:47:17.93\00:47:21.04
MEANS IS IF YOU ARE GOING TO
PREACH RIGHTEOUSNESS BY FAITH,
00:47:21.04\00:47:25.71
THAT YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE
JESUS-ONLY, AND THAT MEANS WE'RE
NOT GOING TO PREACH ANY DOCTRINE
00:47:25.71\00:47:33.52
OR PROPHECY, AND THAT'S
NOT WHAT IT MEANS AT ALL.
00:47:33.52\00:47:40.69
JESUS ALWAYS TALKED
ABOUT GOD. >> OH, ABSOLUTELY.
00:47:40.69\00:47:43.59
>> JESUS IS THE AUTHOR
OF DOCTRINE, THE AUTHOR OF
00:47:43.59\00:47:48.13
PROPHECY, SO TO SAY WE'RE GOING
TO PREACH JESUS WITHOUT THOSE
00:47:48.13\00:47:53.44
LIMITS, THAT'S
A MISTAKE AS WELL.
00:47:53.44\00:47:55.47
SO WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT PERFECT
BLEND, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE
00:47:55.47\00:48:00.21
STRIVING TO DO
BY THE GRACE OF GOD.
00:48:00.21\00:48:02.81
SO WE DEVELOPED, YOU KNOW,
A -- A COMMITTEE THAT WE'RE
00:48:02.81\00:48:06.35
GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE
ABOUT LATER, THAT CAME TOGETHER
00:48:06.35\00:48:09.62
AND STARTED PRAYING AND
SAYING WHAT DO WE DO NOW?
00:48:09.62\00:48:12.85
HOW DOES THIS IMPACT OUR
EVANGELISM?-pBECAUSE WE HAVE A
00:48:12.85\00:48:16.99
CONFERENCE WIDE SERIES THAT IS
COMING UP SOON IN THE NEXT YEAR
00:48:16.99\00:48:21.46
OR SO, AND WE DON'T WANT TO DO
THINGS -- WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE
00:48:21.46\00:48:24.97
AWAY FROM WHAT WE HAVE
DONE, BUT WE WANT TO ADD IT TO.
00:48:24.97\00:48:28.94
WE WANT IT TO BE THE
FULLEST THAT IT CAN BE.
00:48:28.94\00:48:32.31
AND SO WE BEGAN TO PRAY AND THE
LORD LEAD US TO SOMETHING, AND
00:48:32.31\00:48:37.85
THE TITLE WE'RE USING IN
OUR SERIES IS JESUS ON PROPHECY.
00:48:37.85\00:48:42.58
AND SOME PEOPLE SAY WHAT DO
YOU MEAN, JESUS ON PROPHECY?
00:48:42.58\00:48:47.29
WHY WOULDN'T YOU
SAY JESUS IN PROPHECY.
00:48:47.29\00:48:50.53
>> W-- I WONDERED THAT
TOO. >> WELL, YOU HAVE DIFFERENT
00:48:50.53\00:48:58.97
EXPERTS THAT SPEAK ON TOPICS.
YOU MIGHT HAVE A PHYSICIAN THAT
00:48:58.97\00:49:04.34
SPEAKS ON DIABETES OR A BUSINESS
PERSON THAT SPEAKS ON FINANCE.
00:49:04.34\00:49:07.54
>> SURE. >> WELL,
THE THOUGHT BEHIND
00:49:07.54\00:49:10.75
JESUS ON PROPHECY IS WE WANT
JESUS TO SPEAK ON THAT SUBJECT.
00:49:10.75\00:49:14.42
>> THERE YOU GO. >> SO
OPENING THE WORD, LETTING
00:49:14.42\00:49:18.19
CHRIST SPEAK ON THAT SUBJECT,
AND HE IS THE AUTHOR OF IT, SO
00:49:18.19\00:49:22.92
HE IS THE ONE THAT IS GOING
TO SPEAK TO US THROUGH HIS WORD.
00:49:22.92\00:49:26.83
>> THAT'S
GENIUS. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
00:49:26.83\00:49:28.80
>> THAT'S GENIUS. >>
WELL, IT WAS THE LORD'S IDEA.
00:49:28.80\00:49:32.20
>> IT'S BIBLICAL, BECAUSE IF
YOU LOOK BACK TO MATTHEW 28, AND
00:49:32.20\00:49:38.44
WHAT DOES HE SAY IN VERSE 18.
ALL AUTHORITY HAS BEEN GIVEN TO
00:49:38.44\00:49:42.68
WHOM? TO ME IN
HEAVEN AND IN EARTH.
00:49:42.68\00:49:45.45
SO, REALLY, I LOVE YOUR --
I LOVE THE POINT, AND WE GOT
00:49:45.45\00:49:49.35
EXCITED ABOUT IT, BECAUSE THERE
WAS ANOTHER NAME FOR THE SERIES,
00:49:49.35\00:49:54.09
INITIALLY. WE
STARTED WITHOUT A DIFFERENT
00:49:54.09\00:49:55.72
NAME, BUT I REMEMBER WHEN
HE LEFT ONE OF OUR MINISTERIAL
00:49:55.72\00:49:59.96
MEETINGS AFTER STUDYING AND
PRAYING TOGETHER, I SENT PASTOR
00:49:59.96\00:50:08.34
WES A TEXT AND SAID WE CAN'T
KEEP DOING WHAT WE HAVE BEEN
00:50:08.34\00:50:12.44
DOING. AND HE SAID I AGREE.
00:50:12.44\00:50:14.61
SO IT REALLY COMES BACK DOWN TO,
WHO IS THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY ON
00:50:14.61\00:50:19.31
SPIRITUAL
THINGS? AND THAT'S JESUS.
00:50:19.31\00:50:22.08
SO WHY NOT HEAR THAT
OVERALL -- OVERARCHING
00:50:22.08\00:50:26.02
NARRATIVE, WHY
NOT HEAR FROM HIM.
00:50:26.02\00:50:27.69
>> ABSOLUTELY. I THINK
I CAN SPEAK ON BEHALF OF
00:50:27.69\00:50:30.16
YOU GUYS WHEN YOU SAY
THIS, YOU ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT
00:50:30.16\00:50:39.30
NECESSARILY REINVENTING OR
CHANGING THE MESSAGE, BUT YOU
00:50:39.30\00:50:43.27
ARE COMING AT IT FROM A
DIFFERENT ANGLE FROM A BIBLICAL
00:50:43.27\00:50:47.64
PERSPECTIVE, AND I LIKE THAT.
>> LISTENING TO THIS REMINDS ME
00:50:47.64\00:50:51.45
OF ONE PIECE I
WANT TO SHARE HERE.
00:50:51.45\00:50:53.45
AS WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS
-- YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WHEN
00:50:53.45\00:50:57.69
YOU REALIZE HOW OTHER PEOPLE
HAVE PREACHED, YOU GO BACK AND
00:50:57.69\00:51:01.02
SAY, WAIT A
MINUTE, WHAT DID THEY SAY?
00:51:01.02\00:51:03.16
AND YOU KNOW HOW WE
GET THAT AS PREACHERS.
00:51:03.16\00:51:08.26
WELL, ONE DAY WE WERE LOOKING AT
SOME SERMONS THAT WERE PREACHED
00:51:08.26\00:51:13.07
BACK ABOUT 1894 I BELIEVE,
AND WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO
00:51:13.07\00:51:16.60
UNDERSTAND WHAT THE
CONTENT -- HOW DO YOU -- HOW DO
00:51:16.60\00:51:20.31
YOU MAKE THIS
MORE CHRIST CENTERED?
00:51:20.31\00:51:23.48
CAME ACROSS SOME SERMONS DONE BY
WW PRESCOTT IN AUSTRALIA, ELLEN
00:51:23.48\00:51:31.92
WHITE WAS RIGHT
THERE AT THE TIME.
00:51:31.92\00:51:33.99
SHE LISTENED TO THE SERMON.
IT WAS AN EVANGELISTIC OUTREACH
00:51:33.99\00:51:37.73
INTO THE COMMUNITY THROUGH A
CAMP MEETING, AND THEY STARTED
00:51:37.73\00:51:41.63
OUT WITH JUST ADVENISTS, AND
THEN THEY START TOAD DRAW THE
00:51:41.63\00:51:44.77
PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY, WHERE
IT GREW INTO LIKE 2,000 PEOPLE,
00:51:44.77\00:51:49.94
AND STARTED READING
THESE SERMONS THAT WERE JUST SO
00:51:49.94\00:51:53.91
ENDORSED BY ELLEN WHITE AS THE
MESSAGE, AND I STARTED READING
00:51:53.91\00:51:58.21
THEM, AND AS I WENT
THROUGH THEM, I SAID, I GET IT.
00:51:58.21\00:52:01.52
AND HE WOULD TALK ABOUT JESUS,
AND WHAT JESUS HAD TO SAY ON
00:52:01.52\00:52:05.32
THIS PARTICULAR SUBJECT.
WHAT DID JESUS SAY ABOUT THE
00:52:05.32\00:52:11.39
SABBATH OR THE
STATE OF THE DEATH?
00:52:11.39\00:52:13.63
WELL IF JESUS SAID THAT, THEN
MAYBE WE SHOULD BE DOING THAT,
00:52:13.63\00:52:17.40
AND JUST TURN ON A LIGHT ON ALL
OF US, AS WE BEGAN TO LOOK AT
00:52:17.40\00:52:21.77
THAT, AND SEE WHAT
GOD HAS DONE THERE.
00:52:21.77\00:52:23.64
I HAD SEEN SOMETHING
I HAD NEVER SEEN BEFORE.
00:52:23.64\00:52:26.27
IT MADE A DIFFERENCE
IN MY LIFE, MY PREACHING.
00:52:26.27\00:52:30.58
>> THIS ELEMENT ALSO BEGAN TO
SPREAD AMONGST OUR PASTORS, AND
00:52:30.58\00:52:34.62
THEY WERE PREACHING THESE
MESSAGES IN THEIR CHURCHES, AND
-THE MEMBERS WERE BEGINNING TO
00:52:34.62\00:52:39.85
SAY, WOW, YOUR PREACHING IS
GETTING BETTER, GETTING DEEPER.
00:52:39.85\00:52:46.06
IT'S MORE CHRIST FOCUSED.
THERE IS A POWER THERE THAT
00:52:46.06\00:52:49.23
WASN'T THERE BEFORE. AND
WE SAID, LORD, THIS HAS TO
00:52:49.23\00:52:53.23
TRANSFER OVER TO OUR EVANGELISM.
WHEN PEOPLE COME TO OUR
00:52:53.23\00:52:56.71
MEETINGS, THEY HAVE TO SEE
CHRIST -- THEY HAVE TO KNOW THE
00:52:56.71\00:53:00.21
MESSAGE, BUT THEY HAVE TO
SEE CHRIST HIGH AND LIFTED UP.
00:53:00.21\00:53:03.55
THEY HAVE TO KNOW THAT HE IS
THE SOURCE OF ALL LIFE, THAT HIS
00:53:03.55\00:53:07.98
POWER TO TRANSFORM THEIR
LIFE HAS TO BE EXPERIENCED.
00:53:07.98\00:53:10.65
>> ABSOLUTELY. >>
THEY CAN'T JUST HEAR IT.
00:53:10.65\00:53:13.15
THEY HAVE TO EXPERIENCE IT.
SO REALLY, THIS IS WHERE ALL IS
00:53:13.15\00:53:21.23
BIRTHED OUT OF AND THAT
CONVICTION THAT SOMETHING HAS TO
00:53:21.23\00:53:25.43
CHANGE. AND WE'LL
TALK MORE ABOUT THAT
00:53:25.43\00:53:26.97
IN THE SECOND HOUR, BUT THE
LORD HAS BEEN GRACIOUS TO US.
00:53:26.97\00:53:31.77
WHEN WE CAME TO THE TABLE, ALL
WE HAD WAS CONVICTION, AND WE
00:53:31.77\00:53:36.14
SAID, LORD, YOU ARE GOING TO
HAVE TO HELP US, AND LITTLE BY
00:53:36.14\00:53:41.15
LITTLE AS WE GOT ON OUR KNEES
AND PRAYED, THE LORD WOULD OPEN
00:53:41.15\00:53:46.12
UP A NEW IDEA OR NEW THOUGHT.
AND EVEN THE GRAPHIC THAT WE
00:53:46.12\00:53:50.99
USED, WE HAVE THE
PROPHETIC THEME IN THERE.
00:53:50.99\00:53:55.56
THE BEAST AND WHAT
NOT. PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW THE
00:53:55.56\00:53:59.27
PROPHECIES OF REVELATION,
BUT CHRIST IS THERE AS THE
00:53:59.27\00:54:02.24
CENTERPIECE. HE IS
THERE AS THE FOCUS, AND
00:54:02.24\00:54:04.27
FROM THE GRAPHIC TO THE MESSAGES
TO THE POWERPOINTS TO EVERY
00:54:04.27\00:54:08.31
PIECE OF THAT SERIES, WE WANT IT
TO BE CHRIST CENTERED AND CHRIST
00:54:08.31\00:54:13.42
FOCUSED. >> AND
THAT IS CRUCIAL, AND I
00:54:13.42\00:54:15.28
LIKE THE RELATIONSHIP ASPECT OF
IT AS WELL, BECAUSE WHY WOULD I
00:54:15.28\00:54:20.06
KEEP A DOCTRINE FOR
SOMEBODY THAT I DON'T EVEN KNOW?
00:54:20.06\00:54:22.82
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >> WHY
WOULD I DO SOMETHING FOR
00:54:22.82\00:54:25.73
SOMEBODY THEY DON'T KNOW, BUT
YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE TIME TO GET
00:54:25.73\00:54:30.00
TO KNOW CHRIS, AND WHEN YOU
REALLY LOOK AT HIS LIFE AND WHAT
00:54:30.00\00:54:33.67
HE HAS DONE FOR EACH
AND EVERY ONE OF US --
00:54:33.67\00:54:36.20
>> ABSOLUTELY. >>
HOW COULD YOU NOT?
00:54:36.20\00:54:40.11
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >>
PASTOR [ INAUDIBLE ] DOES A
00:54:40.11\00:54:43.91
SERIES THAT IS MORE FOCUSED ON
REVIVAL OF THE CHURCH, BUT THEN
00:54:43.91\00:54:48.58
YOU APPLY THAT SAME MENTALITY
AND PERSPECTIVE TO YOUR
00:54:48.58\00:54:54.99
OUTREACH. IT'S NOT
ABOUT WHAT YOU DO, IT'S
00:54:54.99\00:54:57.53
WHO YOU KNOW, AND WHO
YOU KNOW CHANGES WHAT YOU DO.
00:54:57.53\00:55:01.86
HE IS NOT SAYING THROW AWAY THE
DOCTRINES, BUT HE IS SAYING THEY
00:55:01.86\00:55:08.87
ARE NOT GOING TO BE AS POWERFUL
AS THEY SHOULD BE, IF YOU DON'T
00:55:08.87\00:55:12.94
FIRST GO TO THE
RULER OF THE SABBATH.
00:55:12.94\00:55:16.54
SO I SO APPRECIATE
WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING.
00:55:16.54\00:55:20.05
>> AND WE DON'T WANT TO DIMINISH
THE CONCEPT OF THE LAW, BUT THAT
00:55:20.05\00:55:24.39
THE LAW AND THE GOSPEL
PERFECTLY SIT TOGETHER.
00:55:24.39\00:55:29.66
AND WHEN YOU UPLIFT CHRIST,
YOU UPLIFT THE LAW EVEN HIGHER,
00:55:29.66\00:55:34.56
BECAUSE IT OPENS UP TO US A
DEEPER REVELATION OF CHRIST, AND
00:55:34.56\00:55:38.90
HIS TRUH, AND THAT BRINGS
US TO THE CONVICTION THAT, MAN,
00:55:38.90\00:55:44.31
THERE'S NO WAY I CAN GIVE LIKE
CHRIS, UNLESS CHRIST IS LIVING
00:55:44.31\00:55:48.58
IN ME. AND THAT'S THE KEY.
00:55:48.58\00:55:51.25
IS THAT, WE WANT PEOPLE TO SEE
THE STANDARD THAT CHRIST IS L
00:55:51.25\00:55:55.25
KAING THEM TO, WHICH IS HIS
LIFE, AND WE -- WE COME TO THAT
00:55:55.25\00:56:00.32
REALIZATION THAT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE
WITHOUT A TRANSFORMATION OF MY
00:56:00.32\00:56:06.16
HEART, AND ONLY HE
HAS THE POWER TO DO IT.
00:56:06.16\00:56:09.30
AND THAT'S BELIEVING THAT HIS
RIGHTEOUSNESS CAN BE MINE IF I
00:56:09.30\00:56:14.30
PUT MY TOTAL FAITH,
TRUST, AND CONFIDENCE IN HIM.
00:56:14.30\00:56:17.84
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >> AND
WHEN THAT HAPPENS PEOPLE
00:56:17.84\00:56:22.01
BECOME EMPOWERED TO LIVE TO THAT
CALLING THAT GOD HAS FOR THEM.
00:56:22.01\00:56:29.18
>> AMEN. >> AND THE LAW IS A
00:56:29.18\00:56:32.25
TRANSCRIPTION OF HIS CHARACTER.
YOU CAN'T SEPARATE IT.
00:56:32.25\00:56:36.09
>> THINKING OF
RIGHTEOUSNESS BY FAITH.
00:56:36.09\00:56:39.16
SOMETIMES THAT FAITH ASPECT
IT COMES BY FAITH, AND I ALWAYS
00:56:39.16\00:56:41.76
THINK THINK OF THE
ENDING OF THE THIRD
00:56:41.76\00:56:48.67
ANGEL'S MESSAGE.
KEEP THE FAITH OF JESUS.
00:56:48.67\00:56:51.21
SO NOT ONLY DO WE WANT THE
RIGHTEOUSNESS OF CHRIST TO BE
00:56:51.21\00:56:55.44
MADE MANIFEST IN YOUR LIFE, BUT
IT COMES THROUGH PRACTICING THE
00:56:55.44\00:56:59.28
SAME FAITH THAT CHRIST
PRACTICED HERE ON EARTH.
00:56:59.28\00:57:01.98
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> I LOVE HOW JESUS
00:57:01.98\00:57:06.25
HIMSELF -- JOHN 14:15, RIGHT?
IF YOU LOVE ME, YOU'LL KEEP MY
00:57:06.25\00:57:11.66
COMMANDMENTS.
CHRIST IS THE ONE THAT TIED
00:57:11.66\00:57:13.53
THESE THINGS TOGETHER, AND IF
YOU TAKE ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER,
00:57:13.53\00:57:16.73
YOU ARE LEAVING OUT
A VERY IMPORTANT PIECE.
00:57:16.73\00:57:19.23
>> ABSOLUTELY. I
CAN'T BELIEVE WE'RE DOWN TO
00:57:19.23\00:57:21.70
THEN OF OUR FIRST HOUR. I
HAVE GOT A QUESTION THAT I
00:57:21.70\00:57:24.77
WANT TO ASK YOU GUYS, BU
I'LL HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE SECOND
00:57:24.77\00:57:28.48
HOUR. WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK.
00:57:28.48\00:57:30.11
DON'T GO ANYWHERE. ¤
00:57:30.11\00:57:32.11