I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello and welcome to
another 3ABN Today Live program.
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Thank you for joining us
as you do each and every day.
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I'm happy to be co-hosted
here by my wife, Yvonne.
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I'm happy to be here.
You're looking spiffy today.
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Well, thank you. And, all right.
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Good answer.
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Speaking of spiffy,
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we have a lot of folks
looking good here today.
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We do. Would you introduce them?
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We do.
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We have our dear
sister Shelley Quinn.
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All right.
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We have our dear
Pastor John Lomacang.
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Oh, good, good.
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Dear Pastor Ryan Day,
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and our dear brother
and Pastor Kenny Shelton.
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Wow, this is great.
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Thank you all
for joining us today.
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And we got a program
that you don't want to miss.
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You want to call your
friends, your enemies, everybody
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and tell them to
tune in to 3ABN tonight
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because we're going to
be talking about something
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that affects each
and every one of you.
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I promise you,
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every person that
watches this program,
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this is for you tonight.
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Am I telling the truth?
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That's right. It is.
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Pastor, John, how we're going...
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Thinking of a name for this,
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how would you
introduce this program tonight?
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Well, the big question
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I would ask everyone
watching and listening
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is how do we
know that sin exists?
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That's the big question tonight.
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How do we know that sin exists?
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Because in a world today,
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where so many things that
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used to be wrong are now right,
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things that used to be right
are now being defined as wrong.
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Things that God
created are being rejected,
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and things that
God didn't create
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are being embraced.
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The lines are not
black and white any longer,
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they are becoming grey,
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and we are descending
into a corrupt society
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that people are saying,
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"Well, how do you
know it's corrupt?
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Why is my opinion not
as good as your opinion?
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And when does it
cease to be an opinion?
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Are there any guidelines?
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Or do we just all decide
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what's right and what's wrong?
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So when we ask the question,
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how do we know that sin exists?
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You've got to
come to some standard
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so that I can say,
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"Well, you're going north
when you should be going south,
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or you're going south
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when you should be going north."
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So the very same laws we live by
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when it comes to traffic,
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are there any
laws that we live by
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when it comes to
our moral society?
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Amen.
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In paying taxes and whatever.
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Yeah, we do that for sure.
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This is going to
be a great program
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because when you...
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Who would have thought even,
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I'd say 10 or 15 years ago,
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it'd be necessary to
have a program defining sin
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because almost everybody,
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this is sin, that sin and...
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But today, it's
almost as you said,
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everybody has their own opinion.
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Well, this is not
sin or that's sin,
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and usually it's sin
if it's not us, you know.
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What somebody else's
doing sin, what we do,
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well, we have a right
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for whatever, we
make excuses for.
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So we want to give you a
thus saith the Lord tonight.
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We're going to
go back and find out
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what first define what sin is
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and then hopefully
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each and every one of us,
the time this program is over,
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we will see the
importance of the law of God.
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And because without God's law,
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I mean, there's no
sin and there's no love.
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God set up a law
for us to live by,
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it's the law of love.
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That's what I like to say
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because it's a way that
if we follow this roadmap,
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He's promised us eternal life.
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Yes. That's absolutely amazing.
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It's so protective, you know,
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I talk to people sometimes
and there's this trend now,
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that's happening,
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people are going toward
atheism a lot in society.
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In American society
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there is this
trend toward atheism,
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where I have my
truth, you have your truth,
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I'm not going to judge
you, you know, and all that.
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And it's like, what is...
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There has to be a standard,
everybody can't be right.
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There has to be some standard
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against which we can be judged.
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And so this program,
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I think, is going to
be very enlightening.
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All right, great.
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Well, I know our
folks love music.
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And we have some
musicians and singers here.
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Yes, we do.
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But tonight we're
blessed, we have Jaime Jorge,
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and he's going to be
doing a medley for us.
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Amen. What a great way
to start a program, huh?
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That gave me chills.
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We have to get a little
water and throw on the strings,
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make sure they don't burn out.
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It was sizzling. Yeah.
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He gives his all,
doesn't he? He does.
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My Dad used to
say "Whatever you do,
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boys do it with all
your might, remember that?
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So that's what
Jaime does when he plays.
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So thank you so much,
Jaime, we appreciate it.
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All hail the
power of Jesus name,
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I mean, great way to
start giving honor and glory
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and praise to the Lord.
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What I'd like to do...
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We had a prayer earlier,
but I think for our viewers,
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tonight's such
an important topic
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that we want to
start out with a prayer.
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I'm going to ask Brother
Kenny, if you would just...
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We're just going
to maybe join hands
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with the one next to you there
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and let's just
those of you at home,
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if you're with
someone join hands,
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if you're not reach out
and join hands with us on this,
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but we want to go
to the Lord in prayer.
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We want truth tonight.
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And we want Jesus to shine,
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not what we have
say but we want to hear
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what the Word of God has to say
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on this very important
topic of the law of God,
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sin, the Ten Commandments.
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And, Lord, You have your way.
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Amen. All right, let's pray.
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Loving Father in heaven, truly,
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it's a privilege
to come before Thee.
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Lord, we come in
the name of Jesus,
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our Lord and our Savior,
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we uplift Jesus Christ,
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we uplift the cross of Calvary.
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We're thankful for that
blood that flows so freely,
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that we may have eternal
life and forgiveness of sin.
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Lord, tonight you know
that we need Your help.
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We need the power
of Thy Holy Spirit.
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We pray as Thy
Spirit now descends upon
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each and every one of us,
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our hearts, our
minds will be open.
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We may hear heaven speak,
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and then we may take those words
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and we read them
from the Word of God.
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And people can certainly say
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"Oh, it's been good
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to be in the house
of the Lord together.
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"And so, Father, we pray
in a very special way now
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that not our
will, but Thine be done,
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open up the avenues,
open up the ears, the hearts
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and the minds of Your children
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everywhere around the world.
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May they be receptive,
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may they want to
know what truth is,
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may they be asking the questions
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even right now.
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May they be answered by
the power of the Holy Spirit
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which we thank you
for, in Jesus name, amen.
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Amen. Amen.
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Maybe we should start out.
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I'm glad we got a
bunch of Bible scholars here
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'cause we can just
ask anything we want,
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we know they're
gonna come up with it.
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But let's start out about sin,
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what sin is,
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and when did it begin?
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Maybe if y'all want to jump in.
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I'll jump in here and I
know that Pastor Lomacang
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and Pastor Kenny and Shelley
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and you guys are gonna
add to this really well.
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I just want to kind of
start at the origin, okay,
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where did sin, this sin began.
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I think of Ezekiel Chapter 28,
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it's probably a
great place to start,
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because it kind of
points us to the origin
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back in eternity past
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before there
really wasn't a heaven
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or an earth, or
an Adam or an Eve,
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a world that had been
created at this point.
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Ezekiel 28:14,
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this is God addressing
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one of His highest angels
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at the particular time,
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of course we know
this angel to be Lucifer
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and this particular scene
is not yet on earth, okay?
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This is still in the
heavenly courts above.
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And so Isaiah, excuse me,
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Ezekiel Chapter 28,
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I'm going to
begin with verse 14.
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Notice the Bible
says and then we'll go,
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and this is God
speaking to Lucifer,
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whom He is going to
call a covering cherub.
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He says, "You were the
anointed cherub who covers,
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I established you."
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So right there,
that's sanctuary language
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we're talking about.
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Lucifer was one of
two covering cherubs
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right in the midst of
the very throne of God.
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He was one of the closer
beings to the throne of God
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in the heavenly courts above.
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He says, "I established you."
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And I want to pause
there and just clear the air,
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many people want
to automatically say,
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"Well, God created a devil."
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We know that God
did not create a devil,
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He created a
beautiful angel of light.
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That's right.
His name was Lucifer.
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That's right.
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And, of course,
Lucifer would become a devil
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because of this sin
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that we're
talking about tonight.
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He goes on to say, "You were
on the holy mountain of God,
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you walked back and forth
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in the midst of
the fiery stones."
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Notice this, notice
verse 15, this is key,
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"You were perfect in your ways
from the day you were created,
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till iniquity was found in you."
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And I usually
ask people, you know,
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"What made Lucifer
perfect in the eyes of God?"
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Well, the answer is given
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I think implied in
this particular text.
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What made him
perfect is that at one point,
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he was without sin.
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But, of course,
he was perfect until,
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as the text says,
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"Until iniquity
was found in you."
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Now the word iniquity here
simply another word for sin.
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Another text that comes
to my mind is prophetically
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so notice we just
started in the beginning,
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now I want to kind of take
us down to the end, future,
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Christ is speaking prophetically
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in Matthew 24:12,
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speaking of the end
time, speaking of the last days
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before He would
return to the earth,
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He says, "And because..."
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And I'm reading from the
New King James Version here,
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it says "And because lawlessness
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will abound,
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the love of
many will grow cold."
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Now if you read
the King James Version,
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that word iniquity that
we just read in Ezekiel 28
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and the Septuagint, same word,
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iniquity, lawlessness,
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it's a correlation there
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because iniquity is lawlessness.
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Now why would I launch us
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in to a talk
about being lawless?
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You go over to 1 John 3:4.
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1 John 3:4,
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notice what the Bible tells us.
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This is one of those
popular texts, in fact,
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1 John 3
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is one of those
texts that you very rarely
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ever hear a pastor preach on,
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because it is
addressing the seriousness
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of this little
three red letter word
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that we call sin.
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1 John 3:4, notice
what the Bible says,
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"Whoever commits
sin also commits..."
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There's that word, lawlessness,
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"And sin is lawlessness."
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And of course, the
King James Version,
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I just read from
the New King James,
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King James Version is
simply going to address that
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as transgressing the law of God.
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So the question is,
you know, does sin exists?
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We know it exists.
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Where was its origin?
How did it come about?
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And what is sin?
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I'm gonna let these
brothers unpack it now.
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Okay, all right.
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There's one quick text
here if you don't mind,
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It's in Luke 19:10
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which establishes what
we are talking about here,
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you know, why
did Jesus come here?
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Right.
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What was the
purpose of the cross?
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What was the
purpose of His life?
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And Luke 19:10 said,
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"For the Son of man came to seek
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and to save that
which," was what?
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"That which was lost."
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Seek and save
that which was lost.
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So there, you have a sin issue,
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we're challenged by that.
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God must give us something
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so we can
understand what sin is.
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Sin is the
transgression of the law.
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Must give us something
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that we can look at to define
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that which is good
and that which is evil.
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But He came here for a reason,
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to seek and to save
that which was lost.
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So somehow the other
man got off the track
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and he sinned, he fell short.
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And Jesus said,
"I'm going to come
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and to win them back."
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Praise God for that,
for the cross of Calvary.
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You know what
thought occurred to me
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when you said why did sin exist,
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is what James says,
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this little
passage in James Chapter 1
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is the science of sin.
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Listen to this, what he says,
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I'll begin in James 1:13,
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"Let no one say
when he is tempted,
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I am tempted by God,
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for God cannot
be tempted by evil,
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nor does He
himself tempt anyone,
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but each one is tempted,
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when he is drawn away," by what?
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"His own desires, and enticed.
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Then when desire
has conceived..."
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So you can see now, this is,
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here we're going down this road,
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"When desire has conceived,
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it gives birth to sin, and sin,
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when it is full grown,
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gives birth or
brings forth death."
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So we can see that
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what sin is, is selfishness,
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which is just the
opposite of who God is,
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because God is self giving,
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self sacrificing love.
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And the interesting thing is
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when it brings forth death,
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that means that sin
had to be imputed, right?
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Roman 5:13 says,
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Paul says, or let
me begin with verse 12,
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it says, "Therefore
just as through one man
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sin entered the world..."
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We know that the
devil tempted Adam and Eve.
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"Death through sin,
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and thus sin spread to all men,
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because all sinned."
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And then
parenthetically, he says,
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"For until the law
was in the world..."
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"Until the law,
sin was in the world,
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but sin is not imputed
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where there is no law."
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So without the law,
there can't be any sin.
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Absolutely. Yes.
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I wanna come at
from a completely
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different angle,
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because there's
somebody watching the program
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that might say, "I
appreciate your Bible text,
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but I'm not even a Christian."
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Matter of fact, they
might even be an atheist,
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they might not even
believe in God at all,
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they may have never
mentioned the name Jesus.
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But there is something that...
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If that's in fact the case,
if you're driving or listening
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and you might say,
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"There are those
Christians go again,
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talking about the Bible text,
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and I don't even
believe in Bible,
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I don't even owe one,
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I don't believe
in Jesus, never have.
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But there's something
about you that's true,
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about all of us.
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I'm sure if you're
listening to the program
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or watching that,
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in your family
somebody has died.
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In every family
somebody has died
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and the question is, why?
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We cannot deny the fact
that all around the planet
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that there is murder everywhere.
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There's crime everywhere,
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there's theft, there's adultery,
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there's
violence, there's robbery.
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And that's just
to name a few crimes,
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and all of a sudden
in our society today,
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something is
happening in our world today
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that didn't happen
20 or 30 years ago.
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And crimes are being redefined
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and things that we thought
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had a clear
black and white meaning
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are all of a
sudden becoming gray.
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For example, marriage, Danny,
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the Bible, those of us
who believe in the Bible,
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the Bible described marriage
is between a man and a woman.
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It's been redefined today.
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Why is it being
redefined? Watch this.
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Why does it need to be redefined
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if there is no
definition for it?
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Okay.
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There you go. Oh, it's good.
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Why is marriage being redefined
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if there is no
definition for it?
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There has to be a definition.
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If there is a definition,
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somebody had to
give that definition.
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That's right.
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Somebody had to
establish that standard.
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Why is crime, crime?
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Why are people in
non-Christian countries
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in jail?
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What says in their society
they've done something wrong?
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For them to say this is wrong,
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there has to be a standard
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by which that action
is described as wrong
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or determined to be wrong.
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So there has to be a right.
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If there is a
wrong, there is a right.
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In America there
are prisons abounding.
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Illinois is a state
that's prolific in prisons.
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We have a
wonderful prison ministry.
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But here's a point,
we're gonna go back to this,
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we're gonna
take baby steps back.
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We're gonna
start with the crime,
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with the death, with the murder,
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with the robbery,
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with the thing that
everybody knows is wrong
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and everyone watching
or listing to the program
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has experienced the
loss of some loved one.
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Why do people even die?
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Well, now let me
give you my definition.
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And if you have one
that's different from this,
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we welcome your response.
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But everyone dies
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because as Ryan and Shelley
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and Pastor Kenny
made it so clear,
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something had to cause death.
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And the third law
of Newton which is...
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It says here, "For every action
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there is an equal
and opposite reaction."
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Well that was
true before Newton,
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he just put it in a definition.
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He put it in a formula. Right.
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For every action
there is an equal
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and opposite reaction.
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So what causes death?
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Something has to cause it.
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What causes,
what makes an action
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being defined as wrong?
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Something has to
categorize as wrong.
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So here's my point.
There has to be a standard.
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So whether you are
a Christian or not,
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there has to be a standard.
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Whether Jesus is
that standard or not,
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what happens in your country
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or where you live
happens in American.
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Everybody dies,
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everybody gets ill.
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Everybody lives in a community
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where some kind of
crime has been committed.
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And lets to make it very simple,
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whether you are a driver or not,
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there are laws
that govern the way
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we behave in traffic.
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So let's begin...
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There has to be a law giver
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to make that law
for the traffic, right?
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Okay, so now let's go back.
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Where there is no death,
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there's nothing to cause it.
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But the Bible says,
"The wages of sin is death."
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Okay, Roman 6:23.
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Okay, where there is no
death, what cause death?
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Where there is no
sin, there is no death.
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The Bible says, "All have sinned
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and fallen short of the glory.
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The wage of sin is death."
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So watch this,
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no law, no sin,
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no sin, no death.
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So we have to
come to the conclusion
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that there is a law
that categorizes everything
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that I've just talked about,
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murder, robbery, theft,
adultery, violence, crime.
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There has to be
a law to define it,
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so that what's experiencing,
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what's an
experience in your country
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where Jesus may not
have ever been mentioned
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is also true in our country.
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There has to be a standard
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by which all these things
happen to every one of us.
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I'll let you guys loosen,
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then I'll come back
with some Bible text.
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No, I just wanna kind of feed
of what you were talking about,
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I was...
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We were talking a little
bit before the program began
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and I was describing
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a Christian apologist by
the name of Ravi Zacharias,
00:23:04.45\00:23:06.65
he's very popular
Christian apologist.
00:23:06.68\00:23:09.25
And he tells a
story, and you can actually
00:23:09.28\00:23:10.62
go on online to YouTube
00:23:10.65\00:23:12.45
and you can watch this
video where he is engaged,
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he goes all over the
nation, all over the world
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to these very
sophisticated college campuses.
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And, of course,
thousands of students
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and staff and people come
00:23:21.90\00:23:23.40
and they basically
put him to the test,
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they put his faith on a line
00:23:25.73\00:23:27.34
by asking him these
difficult questions.
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And so one young man
steps up to the plate,
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he steps up to
the mike and says,
00:23:32.37\00:23:34.41
"You know what?
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I'm a devout atheist, I
don't really believe in God,
00:23:35.81\00:23:38.18
and one of the reason
why, and here's my question.
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He says, "Why
would I wanna serve a God
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that allow so much evil."
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And, of course,
00:23:46.42\00:23:48.06
Ravi Zacharias kind of
turns the tide of the debate
00:23:48.09\00:23:51.23
and he says, "I don't think
that's really your question."
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He says, "In fact, I think
00:23:53.46\00:23:54.80
you need to
redefine your question
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because the fact that
you are acknowledging that
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there is evil,
00:23:58.47\00:23:59.80
means that you
also have to acknowledge
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that there is good."
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So there's good
and there's evil, okay?
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And I just have to
pause for a moment.
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I've ran into a lot of,
00:24:06.47\00:24:08.18
you know, gay, lesbians,
00:24:08.21\00:24:09.58
transgender people
out there in the world
00:24:09.61\00:24:11.25
and not all of them,
00:24:11.28\00:24:12.61
but most of them are
either agnostic or atheist.
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And so they come
with this approach that,
00:24:15.82\00:24:17.75
you know, that they
believe that there's evil,
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in fact they will
call certain things evil.
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The fact that you're trying
to identify me as something
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that I don't wanna be
identified as, well, that evil,
00:24:24.26\00:24:26.63
you're being
disrespectful of me.
00:24:26.66\00:24:29.06
The fact that, you know,
they acknowledge of the fact
00:24:29.10\00:24:31.83
that people are
being sold into slavery
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or, you know, sex trafficking
whatever, that stuff is evil.
00:24:33.74\00:24:36.97
And so back to
the story, he says,
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"The fact that
you are acknowledging
00:24:39.11\00:24:40.44
that there's evil,
00:24:40.48\00:24:41.81
you're also
acknowledging that there's good.
00:24:41.84\00:24:43.71
And if you're acknowledging
00:24:43.75\00:24:45.15
there's a difference
between good and evil,
00:24:45.18\00:24:47.15
then you also have
to acknowledge the fact
00:24:47.18\00:24:49.15
that there has to be a law
that defines that which is good
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and that which is evil."
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And then he says,
"Where there is a law,
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there has to be a law giver."
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Okay?
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So right back to
that question of law.
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If there is law giver,
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and he has a law
and sin is the...
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As 1 John 3:4, again this
is the King James Version.
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I read the new King
James Version earlier.
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The King James
Version says in 1 John 3:4,
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"Whosoever committed sin
00:25:15.54\00:25:18.98
transgresseth also the law..."
00:25:19.01\00:25:21.55
And it says here,
00:25:21.58\00:25:22.92
"For sin is the
transgression of the law."
00:25:22.95\00:25:25.65
So perhaps maybe...
00:25:25.69\00:25:27.02
Transgression means what?
00:25:27.06\00:25:28.39
Transgression basically
means that you're violating,
00:25:28.42\00:25:30.99
you go into a situation knowing
00:25:31.03\00:25:33.63
to do good and you do it not.
00:25:33.66\00:25:35.06
In other words James Chapter...
00:25:35.10\00:25:36.43
If I go at 80 and
the policemen stops me,
00:25:36.46\00:25:39.10
speed limit is 70, I transgress?
00:25:39.13\00:25:41.30
You can't say,
"Oh I didn't know."
00:25:41.34\00:25:42.67
You know, exactly.
00:25:42.70\00:25:44.04
All right, all right
simple term, I broke the law.
00:25:44.07\00:25:46.37
So the
principle of transgression
00:25:46.41\00:25:48.14
is clearly established
in James 4:17 which is,
00:25:48.18\00:25:51.15
"He that knows to do good
00:25:51.18\00:25:52.51
and does it not,
to him it is sin."
00:25:52.55\00:25:54.28
And so to transgress the
law means you knew better,
00:25:54.32\00:25:56.62
but you're
rebelling against that
00:25:56.65\00:25:58.49
which God has set in place.
00:25:58.52\00:26:00.39
And so that particular verse
00:26:00.42\00:26:02.52
there perhaps at no other point
in the Bible is there a better,
00:26:02.56\00:26:05.96
more clear definition
of sin than 1 John 3:4.
00:26:05.99\00:26:08.70
Brother Kenny...
00:26:08.73\00:26:10.07
Yeah, I mean that's good
00:26:10.10\00:26:11.43
because you're
talking about good and evil.
00:26:11.47\00:26:12.80
Right.
00:26:12.83\00:26:14.17
I mean how far
does that go back?
00:26:14.20\00:26:15.54
That goes back to
the Garden of Eden.
00:26:15.57\00:26:16.91
Right.
00:26:16.94\00:26:18.27
The tree that was forbidden.
00:26:18.31\00:26:19.64
The tree of
knowledge of good and what?
00:26:19.67\00:26:21.61
Good and evil.
00:26:21.64\00:26:22.98
It goes all the way back there,
00:26:23.01\00:26:24.35
so definitely
there's going to be good,
00:26:24.38\00:26:25.71
there's going to be
evil, their eyes were opened,
00:26:25.75\00:26:27.12
they know nothing but
good, now evil's come on.
00:26:27.15\00:26:29.88
And the knowledge,
00:26:29.92\00:26:32.05
Romans 3:20, what?
00:26:32.09\00:26:33.82
The law has a function.
00:26:33.86\00:26:35.19
What is the function of the law?
00:26:35.22\00:26:38.76
Knowledge of sin.
00:26:38.79\00:26:40.13
So we have to have a
knowledge, what is sin.
00:26:40.16\00:26:43.23
So God's given us something
00:26:43.26\00:26:44.60
to give us a
knowledge of that which is good
00:26:44.63\00:26:47.77
or that which is not good
for us to make it very simple.
00:26:47.80\00:26:50.91
He couldn't have
made it anymore simple
00:26:50.94\00:26:52.27
than put 10 things down...
00:26:52.31\00:26:54.68
I forget how many
several millions of laws
00:26:54.71\00:26:58.28
that are on the books
00:26:58.31\00:27:00.02
and still the
country is out of control.
00:27:00.05\00:27:02.95
We're getting worst.
00:27:02.98\00:27:04.32
God just gave us
a simple little ten.
00:27:04.35\00:27:07.22
But to me one of the reasons is,
00:27:07.26\00:27:08.99
if we look at scripture,
00:27:09.02\00:27:10.36
it talks about in Romans 8:7,
00:27:10.39\00:27:11.83
it talks about the carnal
mind, you know, the carnal mind.
00:27:11.86\00:27:14.90
Before we know Jesus
Christ, the carnal mind is what?
00:27:14.93\00:27:17.97
Is enmity in it,
enmity against God,
00:27:18.00\00:27:20.30
for it is not
subject to the law of God
00:27:20.34\00:27:23.67
and neither indeed can it be.
00:27:23.71\00:27:25.31
I thought how
interesting that word subject,
00:27:25.34\00:27:28.04
it's not willing
to submit itself.
00:27:28.08\00:27:29.68
That's right.
00:27:29.71\00:27:31.05
The carnal mind, for born again
00:27:31.08\00:27:33.05
we are not willing to
submit it to Jesus Christ,
00:27:33.08\00:27:36.02
we're not willing to obey it.
00:27:36.05\00:27:37.95
But when Jesus comes
into our hearts and our lives,
00:27:37.99\00:27:41.22
our attitude changes,
00:27:41.26\00:27:42.59
we're willing to be
obedient to obey God.
00:27:42.62\00:27:45.49
And then, by this we look at it.
00:27:45.53\00:27:47.66
Now we know good
and now we know evil.
00:27:47.70\00:27:51.27
I think Pastor John
mentioned a while ago,
00:27:51.30\00:27:53.20
if we don't know those
two, we're not accountable.
00:27:53.23\00:27:55.37
In the time of
ignorance, God does what?
00:27:55.40\00:27:56.74
Winks.
00:27:56.77\00:27:58.11
He winks at it in
time of ignorance.
00:27:58.14\00:27:59.47
Now I wonder how many of
us can plead that case today
00:27:59.51\00:28:02.51
that we're
ignorant of certain things,
00:28:02.54\00:28:04.55
you know, that sometime I think,
00:28:04.58\00:28:06.21
you know, we're growing
00:28:06.25\00:28:07.58
and we realize that God is
revealing new truths to us.
00:28:07.62\00:28:10.45
But praise God, He
is making it known,
00:28:10.49\00:28:12.22
these programs helps
making it known of that
00:28:12.25\00:28:15.06
which is good and
that which is evil,
00:28:15.09\00:28:17.23
so we can do the right thing,
00:28:17.26\00:28:19.33
so we can pray for
the coming of Jesus.
00:28:19.36\00:28:20.86
Absolutely. Amen.
00:28:20.90\00:28:22.23
You said something in
the beginning of the program
00:28:22.26\00:28:23.93
that was to me is
really, really hit me.
00:28:23.97\00:28:26.80
You said, "Why did Christ die?"
00:28:26.84\00:28:30.47
He tried to take away
the sins of the world.
00:28:30.51\00:28:34.74
Amen. Absolutely.
00:28:34.78\00:28:36.11
So the sin of the world.
00:28:36.14\00:28:37.48
So Christ came to
take away the sin,
00:28:37.51\00:28:40.52
so sin is very important.
So we can't write it off today.
00:28:40.55\00:28:44.09
People's like,
"Well, it's really just in
00:28:44.12\00:28:46.29
how you feel."
00:28:46.32\00:28:47.66
In other words it's up
to me individually, Shelley,
00:28:47.69\00:28:49.92
if I can do this if I choose
00:28:49.96\00:28:52.76
because I don't see
anything wrong with it.
00:28:52.79\00:28:54.63
My conscience doesn't bother me.
00:28:54.66\00:28:56.63
That's not what,
00:28:56.67\00:28:58.00
Christ didn't die
for our conscience,
00:28:58.03\00:28:59.37
what our conscience said, right?
00:28:59.40\00:29:01.37
He died to take away the sin.
00:29:01.40\00:29:03.00
Sin is what you all are saying,
00:29:03.04\00:29:05.57
the transgression or
the breaking of the law.
00:29:05.61\00:29:07.71
Yes.
00:29:07.74\00:29:09.08
But we need to
talk a little bit about
00:29:09.11\00:29:11.58
rebellion versus mistakes.
00:29:11.61\00:29:14.15
Other words, everybody in here,
00:29:14.18\00:29:15.72
we all have sinned.
00:29:15.75\00:29:17.09
The Bible says, "We all sinned
00:29:17.12\00:29:18.59
and come short of
the glory of God."
00:29:18.62\00:29:19.95
If we leave it
there, then we say,
00:29:19.99\00:29:22.02
the wages of sin is death.
00:29:22.06\00:29:23.39
No one would be saved. Right?
00:29:23.43\00:29:25.69
So can we talk a
little bit about that?
00:29:25.73\00:29:28.93
Okay, John.
00:29:28.96\00:29:30.30
Well, I'm glad
you brought that up
00:29:30.33\00:29:31.83
because what I
mentioned a moment ago
00:29:31.87\00:29:34.40
was everybody dies.
00:29:34.44\00:29:36.30
But that's the bad news.
00:29:36.34\00:29:38.37
But Jesus came to
take away that very thing
00:29:38.41\00:29:40.61
that will condemn us
all to eternal death.
00:29:40.64\00:29:44.58
He would not have had to die
if the law could be abandoned,
00:29:44.61\00:29:49.22
if the law could be
removed He wouldn't have to die.
00:29:49.25\00:29:52.99
You know, case in
point, let's use an example,
00:29:53.02\00:29:55.29
that's why many
people today that,
00:29:55.32\00:29:56.93
I'll talk about the
Christian population
00:29:56.96\00:29:58.36
that may be
watching the program.
00:29:58.39\00:30:00.20
There are so many
Christians say that,
00:30:00.23\00:30:01.56
"We're not under the
law, but we're under grace."
00:30:01.60\00:30:03.06
I'm speaking of
the Christian now,
00:30:03.10\00:30:04.43
"We're not under the
law, but under grace."
00:30:04.47\00:30:06.07
Well, then why do you need grace
00:30:06.10\00:30:07.44
if there is no law?
00:30:07.47\00:30:08.80
That's right. You
really wouldn't need it.
00:30:08.84\00:30:10.17
If the police
officer, you used the example
00:30:10.21\00:30:11.54
a moment ago, if you
drive 80 mile an hour
00:30:11.57\00:30:12.97
and you get pulled over
00:30:13.01\00:30:14.44
and the police officer says
which happened to me before...
00:30:14.48\00:30:17.48
Well.
00:30:17.51\00:30:18.85
Going my way to New York City,
00:30:18.88\00:30:20.92
on my way to New
York City in 2006.
00:30:20.95\00:30:22.95
Yeah, which time?
00:30:22.98\00:30:25.22
I could tell you, in 2006
00:30:25.25\00:30:27.69
I was on my way
to New York City,
00:30:27.72\00:30:29.06
my dad had passed away.
00:30:29.09\00:30:30.43
My wife and I
were going to clear out
00:30:30.46\00:30:31.79
his apartment in New York.
00:30:31.83\00:30:33.16
And I was going through Indiana
that was before I bought a GPS,
00:30:33.19\00:30:35.56
I was using my laptop,
00:30:35.60\00:30:37.40
and those cheap
first time things
00:30:37.43\00:30:39.13
we hang that
dongle out the window
00:30:39.17\00:30:40.77
to pick a satellite.
00:30:40.80\00:30:42.14
So I'm watching
my car on the thing
00:30:42.17\00:30:43.71
and I'm really fascinated,
00:30:43.74\00:30:45.34
and I'm looking at this thing
and I'm up to 87 miles an hour.
00:30:45.37\00:30:48.58
Mercy.
00:30:48.61\00:30:49.94
But there's a
trailer truck to my right,
00:30:49.98\00:30:51.51
blocking the curve,
00:30:51.55\00:30:52.95
and when I got around the curve,
00:30:52.98\00:30:55.52
there was a
black highway patrolman
00:30:55.55\00:30:57.82
and his lights
went on immediately
00:30:57.85\00:30:59.19
and I said "Slow
down, he caught me."
00:30:59.22\00:31:01.46
And I didn't try to race away,
00:31:01.49\00:31:02.82
I pulled over at the
side and waited for him,
00:31:02.86\00:31:05.13
and he said to me,
00:31:05.16\00:31:07.83
"Could you tell me
why you were speeding?"
00:31:07.86\00:31:10.80
I said, "Honestly officer,
00:31:10.83\00:31:12.27
I was looking at
my screen, on my GPS,
00:31:12.30\00:31:16.04
I really didn't see it."
00:31:16.07\00:31:17.41
He said, "I clocked
you at 87 miles an hour.
00:31:17.44\00:31:20.71
License and
registration, please?"
00:31:20.74\00:31:23.14
What was I? Was I
an innocent or guilty?
00:31:23.18\00:31:25.25
Guilty. I was guilty.
00:31:25.28\00:31:26.61
He went back,
00:31:26.65\00:31:27.98
so I couldn't find the
registration right away.
00:31:28.02\00:31:29.35
He said, "Give me
your license." I went back.
00:31:29.38\00:31:30.72
He said, "When you
went back," he said,
00:31:30.75\00:31:32.09
"I want your
registration and insurance."
00:31:32.12\00:31:33.46
He came back and he said,
"Why were you in such a hurry?"
00:31:33.49\00:31:36.42
I said, "I'm going to New York,
00:31:36.46\00:31:38.03
there's no excuse
for going that fast."
00:31:38.06\00:31:39.39
He said, "I tell you what?
00:31:39.43\00:31:42.10
Why don't you slow it
down and just called it a day."
00:31:42.13\00:31:45.37
Well.
00:31:45.40\00:31:46.94
I said, "My dad had died,
I was in my way to New York."
00:31:46.97\00:31:49.74
He gave me grace.
00:31:49.77\00:31:51.91
He didn't say get
back on the highway,
00:31:51.94\00:31:54.41
the speed limit
has been canceled
00:31:54.44\00:31:56.38
just because you want to speed.
00:31:56.41\00:31:57.98
No.
00:31:58.01\00:31:59.35
And by the way, we
don't break the law,
00:31:59.38\00:32:01.22
we violate it.
00:32:01.25\00:32:02.58
I was glad, you
could never break the law,
00:32:02.62\00:32:04.72
because it's gonna apply
00:32:04.75\00:32:06.09
the moment you get
back out there, it's in set.
00:32:06.12\00:32:07.86
We can't break
law, we violate it.
00:32:07.89\00:32:10.46
So the violation
causes the death.
00:32:10.49\00:32:15.16
It's the violation of
the commandments of God
00:32:15.20\00:32:17.37
that brings about the result.
00:32:17.40\00:32:18.83
Death,
incarceration, violence, crime.
00:32:18.87\00:32:21.40
The violation brings it about.
00:32:21.44\00:32:22.77
So when the
Bible says, Roman 3:23,
00:32:22.80\00:32:25.41
"All have sinned and fall
short of the glory of God."
00:32:25.44\00:32:27.91
Every one of you
watching the program
00:32:27.94\00:32:29.84
at one point or
another, and why do we all sin?
00:32:29.88\00:32:32.45
Because every one of us...
00:32:32.48\00:32:33.82
And Ryan did a good job,
00:32:33.85\00:32:35.18
he talked about
the ancient of sin,
00:32:35.22\00:32:36.55
how Lucifer
rebelled, became Satan,
00:32:36.58\00:32:39.82
but it didn't
yet entered the world
00:32:39.85\00:32:41.32
until Adam
decided to transgress.
00:32:41.36\00:32:43.89
Romans 5:12,
"Through one man sin entered."
00:32:43.93\00:32:46.73
And since we are His children,
every one of us were born
00:32:46.76\00:32:50.83
with the seed
of rebellion in us.
00:32:50.87\00:32:52.27
Yes. Okay.
00:32:52.30\00:32:53.64
But when you rebel
instead of stumble,
00:32:53.67\00:32:56.37
there's a
difference all together.
00:32:56.40\00:32:58.01
I'll give Miss
Shelley a chance here.
00:32:58.04\00:33:00.24
I just wanted to say that
00:33:00.28\00:33:02.04
what I love about
Romans Chapter 5 is,
00:33:02.08\00:33:05.28
it lets us know that
00:33:05.31\00:33:07.42
we have an enemy
out there, don't we?
00:33:07.45\00:33:10.25
Satan is roaming around
00:33:10.29\00:33:13.02
like a roaring lion
00:33:13.05\00:33:15.12
seeking whom he can devour.
00:33:15.16\00:33:17.36
Who can he bring over to
transgress the law of God?
00:33:17.39\00:33:21.36
But the beautiful thing about it
00:33:21.40\00:33:23.16
is Romans Chapter 5 says,
00:33:23.20\00:33:25.23
"Sin came into the world
00:33:25.27\00:33:27.44
thorough the one man Adam.
00:33:27.47\00:33:29.27
But we've got a
Savior who came..."
00:33:29.30\00:33:32.61
And, you know, it says that,
00:33:32.64\00:33:34.11
"Were sin abounded,
00:33:34.14\00:33:35.84
grace abounded much more."
00:33:35.88\00:33:38.35
So that as sin reigned in death,
00:33:38.38\00:33:40.15
I'm in Romans 5:21 now,
00:33:40.18\00:33:45.12
"Even so grace might reign
00:33:45.15\00:33:49.29
through righteousness,
00:33:49.32\00:33:50.73
to eternal life
through Christ Jesus."
00:33:50.76\00:33:53.46
1 John 3:8 said,
00:33:53.50\00:33:54.83
"Jesus came to destroy
the works of the devil."
00:33:54.86\00:33:57.97
You're talking about,
there are sins of omission
00:33:58.00\00:34:01.57
or co-mission where
you purposefully go out
00:34:01.60\00:34:04.44
and commit a sin.
00:34:04.47\00:34:05.81
There's sins of omission where,
00:34:05.84\00:34:08.14
you know, it says anything
that's not of faith is sin
00:34:08.18\00:34:11.18
or if you know
you should do good
00:34:11.21\00:34:13.28
and you don't do
it, that's a sin.
00:34:13.31\00:34:15.88
But there are sins of ignorance,
00:34:15.92\00:34:17.99
I mean they gave,
00:34:18.02\00:34:20.49
I mean that's on
the Day of Atonement.
00:34:20.52\00:34:22.19
There was a special offering
00:34:22.22\00:34:24.43
for the sins of
the ignorance that,
00:34:24.46\00:34:27.33
you know, corporate sins
people didn't even realize
00:34:27.36\00:34:29.56
they were committing.
00:34:29.60\00:34:31.63
But Jesus is the
sacrifice for all.
00:34:31.67\00:34:35.24
And I love Hebrews 7:22
00:34:35.27\00:34:39.17
that says,
"Jesus is our surety."
00:34:39.21\00:34:43.24
God has brought
us into a covenant,
00:34:43.28\00:34:46.21
and we will talk
about this, I'm sure.
00:34:46.25\00:34:48.55
His law is part of that covenant
00:34:48.58\00:34:51.75
because His law
represents His character,
00:34:51.79\00:34:54.99
His law is kind
of a moral standard.
00:34:55.02\00:35:00.30
It's 10 promises,
00:35:00.33\00:35:03.06
10 promises of
what He will do in us.
00:35:03.10\00:35:06.17
But Jesus is the
surety that we have.
00:35:06.20\00:35:10.67
And he says in Romans,
00:35:10.71\00:35:12.14
I mean, in Hebrews 7:25 that,
00:35:12.17\00:35:15.04
"He intercedes on
our behalf constantly
00:35:15.08\00:35:17.31
and He's able to
save to the uttermost."
00:35:17.35\00:35:19.91
So when you're talking about,
00:35:19.95\00:35:21.88
yeah, there's
mistakes we've all made,
00:35:21.92\00:35:24.42
you know, we don't
want anybody at home
00:35:24.45\00:35:26.15
to sit and say, oh, man,
00:35:26.19\00:35:27.89
they're beating us over the head
00:35:27.92\00:35:29.26
talking about law, law, law.
00:35:29.29\00:35:31.13
We're gonna get to
the good stuff because...
00:35:31.16\00:35:33.29
That's right.
00:35:33.33\00:35:34.76
It is God who
works in us too will
00:35:34.80\00:35:36.70
and to do His good pleasure.
00:35:36.73\00:35:38.17
It is God.
00:35:38.20\00:35:39.53
Once you know these things,
00:35:39.57\00:35:41.10
and you accept
Him as your Savior.
00:35:41.14\00:35:43.27
It is God who's gonna complete
the good work He's begun in us.
00:35:43.30\00:35:47.14
And there is good news
where sin abounded grace,
00:35:47.18\00:35:51.35
abounded so much more.
00:35:51.38\00:35:52.98
Hey, Yvonne. Yes.
00:35:53.01\00:35:54.82
Well, I think, you know, there
are a couple of places that
00:35:54.85\00:35:59.12
people will use
in scripture like
00:35:59.15\00:36:02.52
in Matthew 5:17,
00:36:02.56\00:36:04.33
you know, "Think not that
I've come to destroy the law,
00:36:04.36\00:36:07.43
I've not come to
destroy, but to fulfill."
00:36:07.46\00:36:09.20
Fulfill.
00:36:09.23\00:36:10.57
And, you know,
00:36:10.60\00:36:12.40
what does that mean?
00:36:12.43\00:36:14.17
What does that mean to us?
00:36:14.20\00:36:15.67
Like, does that
mean that, you know...
00:36:15.70\00:36:17.21
Can you give
the scripture again?
00:36:17.24\00:36:18.57
Matthew 5:17, I believe it is.
00:36:18.61\00:36:20.74
And may wanna folks
at home may wanna know.
00:36:20.78\00:36:22.31
Yeah, Matthew 5:17.
00:36:22.34\00:36:26.82
I'll read it.
00:36:26.85\00:36:28.18
"Do not think that I
came to destroy the law
00:36:28.22\00:36:30.49
or the prophets."
00:36:30.52\00:36:31.85
This is from the New King James.
00:36:31.89\00:36:33.52
"I did not come to
destroy but to fulfill."
00:36:33.56\00:36:36.39
So what does the
word fulfill mean?
00:36:36.42\00:36:41.16
Does it mean that...
Shelley's got an answer.
00:36:41.20\00:36:43.06
I know she's
chomping at the bit, right?
00:36:43.10\00:36:45.37
Does it mean that
00:36:45.40\00:36:48.54
He just did away with it
00:36:48.57\00:36:50.24
or He was the embodiment of
it, and there's no more law?
00:36:50.27\00:36:53.91
What does that mean?
00:36:53.94\00:36:55.41
Because that's
one of the scriptures,
00:36:55.44\00:36:57.88
that many Christians use who,
00:36:57.91\00:37:00.65
you know, who think that
we don't have the law anymore.
00:37:00.68\00:37:04.35
We don't have the law anymore.
00:37:04.39\00:37:05.72
Came not to destroy,
but to fulfill, Shelley.
00:37:05.75\00:37:08.79
So that
juxtaposition right there,
00:37:08.82\00:37:10.66
which you said, I didn't
come to destroy, but to fulfill.
00:37:10.69\00:37:13.73
Fulfill is to
cause it to overflow.
00:37:13.76\00:37:18.20
And, you know, there
was the letter of the law
00:37:18.23\00:37:21.47
is what Pharisees followed.
00:37:21.50\00:37:23.77
And Jesus when He fulfilled
and caused it to overflow,
00:37:23.81\00:37:28.08
He said, "Oh, okay."
00:37:28.11\00:37:29.71
So you think it's a
sin to commit adultery.
00:37:29.74\00:37:33.82
I say to you, any
man that looks at a woman
00:37:33.85\00:37:37.85
with lust in his eyes is sin.
00:37:37.89\00:37:40.79
Okay, so it's a sin,
you're breaking the law,
00:37:40.82\00:37:43.96
if you murder, I say to
you, the spirit of the law,
00:37:43.99\00:37:48.63
is that if you
hate your brother.
00:37:48.66\00:37:50.53
I mean, he
caused it to overflow.
00:37:50.57\00:37:53.47
He also fulfilled in this sense.
00:37:53.50\00:37:56.87
I love the study
of the sanctuary,
00:37:56.91\00:37:59.94
because the sanctuary is
theology in physical form.
00:37:59.97\00:38:04.45
The whole plan of salvation
is laid out in the sanctuary.
00:38:04.48\00:38:09.45
Jesus fulfilled
all of these things,
00:38:09.48\00:38:14.32
bringing us up to this point,
00:38:14.36\00:38:17.36
where now He's fulfilling us.
00:38:17.39\00:38:19.83
He's filling us by the
power of His Holy Spirit.
00:38:19.86\00:38:23.23
So Jesus fulfilled the
things of the past but in...
00:38:23.26\00:38:27.27
When somebody says,
00:38:27.30\00:38:28.70
"Oh, that means
there is no more law,
00:38:28.74\00:38:31.27
we're still covenant."
00:38:31.31\00:38:32.64
Aren't we?
00:38:32.67\00:38:34.01
I mean, this is
what we don't talk
00:38:34.04\00:38:35.38
about enough is that we
are God's covenant people.
00:38:35.41\00:38:38.55
Let's look at Hebrews Chapter 8.
00:38:38.58\00:38:41.88
Hebrews Chapter 8,
00:38:41.92\00:38:44.55
when Jesus said,
00:38:44.59\00:38:45.92
I didn't come
to destroy the law,
00:38:45.95\00:38:49.42
but to fulfill it.
00:38:49.46\00:38:51.06
In Hebrews 8:10,
00:38:51.09\00:38:55.90
this is God speaking.
00:38:55.93\00:38:58.33
And, you know,
all of the covenant,
00:38:58.37\00:39:01.04
I mean, every one of
what we call covenants,
00:39:01.07\00:39:05.47
it is all a
progressive revelation
00:39:05.51\00:39:08.84
of the everlasting gospel.
00:39:08.88\00:39:12.28
It's all God is just
building each one on the next.
00:39:12.31\00:39:17.19
By the time He
comes to the point
00:39:17.22\00:39:18.85
where He says in verse 10,
00:39:18.89\00:39:20.96
for this is the
covenant that I will make with
00:39:20.99\00:39:24.33
is the house of Israel,
00:39:24.36\00:39:26.19
after those days, says the Lord,
00:39:26.23\00:39:27.96
this is the new covenant,
00:39:28.00\00:39:30.37
I will put what?
00:39:30.40\00:39:33.40
My laws in their mind,
00:39:33.44\00:39:37.41
I will write
them on their hearts,
00:39:37.44\00:39:40.11
I will be their God and
they shall be My people.
00:39:40.14\00:39:43.95
So as we go through this,
00:39:43.98\00:39:45.61
I'm sure we will progress
00:39:45.65\00:39:47.02
to where we look at,
00:39:47.05\00:39:49.62
was the Ten Commandments
00:39:49.65\00:39:51.45
or were the Ten
Commandments nailed to the cross
00:39:51.49\00:39:54.92
or are they the
foundation of God's government?
00:39:54.96\00:39:58.96
Boy, we can really
cut loose on that one.
00:39:58.99\00:40:02.33
Probably ought to
wait till the next hour.
00:40:02.36\00:40:05.30
I wanna say, which I
forgot to do it earlier.
00:40:05.33\00:40:08.60
For those of you who want
to study more on the topic,
00:40:08.64\00:40:12.21
tonight, we're
giving away the book,
00:40:12.24\00:40:14.18
The Ten
Commandments Twice Removed.
00:40:14.21\00:40:16.14
You can get these
books by calling us
00:40:16.18\00:40:17.98
at (618) 627-4651.
00:40:18.01\00:40:21.68
Or you can email
us at live@3abn.tv.
00:40:21.72\00:40:26.02
That's live@3abn.tv.
00:40:26.05\00:40:28.32
Now what we're doing, Yvonne,
00:40:28.36\00:40:29.89
is we're not selling books,
00:40:29.92\00:40:31.49
we're actually giving books away
00:40:31.53\00:40:33.19
and I can say
thank you to all of you
00:40:33.23\00:40:35.96
who have sent
literally finances in.
00:40:36.00\00:40:38.20
Yeah.
00:40:38.23\00:40:39.57
They says, "Hey, I can't go out
00:40:39.60\00:40:40.94
and I'm maybe too old anymore,
00:40:40.97\00:40:42.30
my health is not good.
00:40:42.34\00:40:43.67
I can't go out."
00:40:43.71\00:40:45.04
We've actually had
people that are incarcerated,
00:40:45.07\00:40:47.41
send a little money and
say, "Hey, I can't go out.
00:40:47.44\00:40:50.11
But here's to help with this."
00:40:50.15\00:40:52.38
So thank you for
those of you donating.
00:40:52.41\00:40:54.75
So what we're
doing because of that,
00:40:54.78\00:40:56.95
in your sacrifice,
00:40:56.99\00:40:58.32
now we can make these
books available to you.
00:40:58.35\00:41:00.96
You can get them
100 in a box or 500,
00:41:00.99\00:41:03.89
even 1000 at your church,
00:41:03.93\00:41:05.93
if you're willing to
take them and pass them out.
00:41:05.96\00:41:08.43
Sabbath afternoons
is always a good time.
00:41:08.46\00:41:11.17
The rate and the
shipping is all you would pay.
00:41:11.20\00:41:13.94
And the flat rate
is 22 cents per book.
00:41:13.97\00:41:16.64
Wow! Wow.
00:41:16.67\00:41:18.01
And it's 128 page book,
retail, I think it's 995.
00:41:18.04\00:41:21.71
Again, all we want
00:41:21.74\00:41:23.18
is you to be
able to participate,
00:41:23.21\00:41:25.45
and we want you to is to
pay the 22 cents a piece.
00:41:25.48\00:41:28.58
So 1000 be $220
or what have you.
00:41:28.62\00:41:32.42
So you can do the math yourself,
00:41:32.45\00:41:34.69
but they come in cartons of 100.
00:41:34.72\00:41:36.69
So if you're willing
to do that is covering,
00:41:36.73\00:41:39.66
what we're covering here tonight
00:41:39.69\00:41:41.30
and a lot more, it's
going into a lot more detail.
00:41:41.33\00:41:44.10
So we're trying
to do the best we can
00:41:44.13\00:41:46.90
because the law of God right now
00:41:46.94\00:41:48.84
is a very important topic
00:41:48.87\00:41:50.27
for everybody on
earth to know about.
00:41:50.31\00:41:51.94
It is.
00:41:51.97\00:41:53.31
And since there's so,
Kenny, churches everywhere,
00:41:53.34\00:41:55.54
oh, the law of God
was done away with,
00:41:55.58\00:41:57.31
the Ten Commandments nailed
at the cross is not important.
00:41:57.35\00:42:00.25
Well, you want to know the truth
00:42:00.28\00:42:01.88
and you don't get
it all here tonight,
00:42:01.92\00:42:03.28
continue to watch 3ABN.
00:42:03.32\00:42:04.65
Amen.
00:42:04.69\00:42:06.02
Or just call us
again (618) 627-4651
00:42:06.05\00:42:10.63
or email us live@3abn.tv.
00:42:10.66\00:42:14.16
And we have people
right now answering the phone.
00:42:14.20\00:42:16.46
So they'll take your orders,
00:42:16.50\00:42:17.93
will ship them out to
you as soon as we can.
00:42:17.97\00:42:20.30
We had a million,
00:42:20.34\00:42:21.67
and I think we're
down to 100 or 150,000,
00:42:21.70\00:42:25.27
something like
that, not too many.
00:42:25.31\00:42:26.71
So as long as we've got
them, will send them to you.
00:42:26.74\00:42:29.24
So it's kind of on a
first come first serve basis.
00:42:29.28\00:42:32.01
So please give us a
call tonight or email us.
00:42:32.05\00:42:35.58
Okay, we're back.
00:42:35.62\00:42:36.95
We've got about 14, 15 minutes,
and we got plenty to cover,
00:42:36.99\00:42:40.46
and in next hour we
really gonna be moving.
00:42:40.49\00:42:43.32
That's right.
00:42:43.36\00:42:44.69
You know,
Shelley laid a foundation
00:42:44.73\00:42:46.06
about the covenants.
00:42:46.09\00:42:47.43
From the time sin
entered the world,
00:42:47.46\00:42:49.36
the covenant was enforced,
00:42:49.40\00:42:52.70
this agreement
between God and humanity.
00:42:52.73\00:42:55.24
That's what a covenant is?
00:42:55.27\00:42:56.71
It's a covenant
between two individuals.
00:42:56.74\00:42:58.77
It's an
agreement between the two.
00:42:58.81\00:43:00.14
Just for the folks at home like
00:43:00.18\00:43:02.44
if I were to go to
the bank and get a loan,
00:43:02.48\00:43:05.95
there has to be some
kind of agreement drawn up.
00:43:05.98\00:43:09.65
But let me clarify one thing
00:43:09.68\00:43:11.02
because this is really critical.
00:43:11.05\00:43:12.95
And it surprised me when I...
00:43:12.99\00:43:15.42
A covenant is an
oath bound promise.
00:43:15.46\00:43:18.69
There were two
types of covenants,
00:43:18.73\00:43:21.50
the covenant between two people,
00:43:21.53\00:43:23.77
which was like a contract,
or the covenant like the will.
00:43:23.80\00:43:27.67
All of God's covenants
00:43:27.70\00:43:30.04
are only one
person making the promise.
00:43:30.07\00:43:32.94
There's only one person
they are it in the Greek
00:43:32.97\00:43:36.75
it is there was
diatheke was like a will
00:43:36.78\00:43:40.92
or syntheke was like a contract.
00:43:40.95\00:43:43.79
All of God's covenants
are Him making the promises.
00:43:43.82\00:43:48.62
It is Him wanting to bring us
00:43:48.66\00:43:52.13
into a really
intimate close relationship
00:43:52.16\00:43:55.60
'cause they're
always saying, I will...
00:43:55.63\00:43:57.80
He's saying, "I
will be your God,
00:43:57.83\00:43:59.30
you will be My people."
00:43:59.33\00:44:00.74
What He is looking for, though,
00:44:00.77\00:44:03.34
is a response of loyalty to Him.
00:44:03.37\00:44:08.84
So His covenant is the, if then,
00:44:08.88\00:44:12.65
you know, if you do
this, then I'll do this.
00:44:12.68\00:44:15.98
There's a condition to this.
00:44:16.02\00:44:17.99
If you want all of My promises,
00:44:18.02\00:44:21.16
I'm asking you
to live like this,
00:44:21.19\00:44:23.83
and I'm going to
empower you to live like that.
00:44:23.86\00:44:27.00
Okay. That's good.
00:44:27.03\00:44:28.46
So with the
covenant there in place,
00:44:28.50\00:44:31.60
you find that when we
talked about the word fulfill.
00:44:31.63\00:44:35.20
Fulfill has a
number of applications.
00:44:35.24\00:44:37.54
One it means in with
the very same context
00:44:37.57\00:44:40.21
for that
covenant to be understood.
00:44:40.24\00:44:42.54
The Lord established a sanctuary
00:44:42.58\00:44:44.68
in the Old Testament,
00:44:44.71\00:44:46.05
that every component
of that was a reminder
00:44:46.08\00:44:48.32
that His covenant is ratified.
00:44:48.35\00:44:50.22
His covenant is
one that is secure,
00:44:50.25\00:44:52.09
and He's the one
00:44:52.12\00:44:53.46
that's living up
to the agreement.
00:44:53.49\00:44:55.02
As Shelley made it very clear,
00:44:55.06\00:44:56.62
He's simply bringing
us into the relationship.
00:44:56.66\00:44:59.69
So every aspect of that covenant
00:44:59.73\00:45:01.43
was portrayed in the
lamb being sacrificed,
00:45:01.46\00:45:04.20
Jesus became the lamb,
00:45:04.23\00:45:06.03
the table of
showbread or the bread,
00:45:06.07\00:45:08.17
Jesus became the bread of life.
00:45:08.20\00:45:09.77
The candelabra was lit,
00:45:09.80\00:45:11.14
Jesus became the
light of the world.
00:45:11.17\00:45:12.64
Where the priests washed
their hands in the water,
00:45:12.67\00:45:14.44
Jesus became the water of life.
00:45:14.48\00:45:16.18
He was showing
that this covenant
00:45:16.21\00:45:17.61
will continue long
after all these examples
00:45:17.65\00:45:20.45
are replaced by
the actual man himself.
00:45:20.48\00:45:22.32
Okay.
00:45:22.35\00:45:23.69
The one who makes
this covenant with us.
00:45:23.72\00:45:25.59
So when we talked about
fulfill that people say,
00:45:25.62\00:45:27.79
well, the law
has been fulfilled.
00:45:27.82\00:45:29.59
Jesus fulfilled
every requirement,
00:45:29.62\00:45:31.33
He became the lamb,
He became the water,
00:45:31.36\00:45:33.09
He became the
bread, He became the light,
00:45:33.13\00:45:35.46
everything
pointed, He fulfilled it,
00:45:35.50\00:45:37.57
He became all those things.
00:45:37.60\00:45:39.57
The high priest, He
became the high priest,
00:45:39.60\00:45:41.54
He always was,
but He was showing
00:45:41.57\00:45:42.90
that I'm coming.
00:45:42.94\00:45:44.27
So when He came,
00:45:44.31\00:45:45.71
He did not just
fulfill all those things
00:45:45.74\00:45:47.74
that's being pointed
out, but He magnified it.
00:45:47.78\00:45:50.25
Amen.
00:45:50.28\00:45:51.61
Isaiah 42:21,
00:45:51.65\00:45:53.01
"The Lord He
will magnify the law
00:45:53.05\00:45:56.58
and make it honorable."
00:45:56.62\00:45:57.95
So instead of saying,
here's an earthly high priest,
00:45:57.99\00:46:01.12
He says, I'm the
real high priest.
00:46:01.16\00:46:03.59
Instead of things that
are sacrificed by blood
00:46:03.63\00:46:05.59
is My blood,
00:46:05.63\00:46:07.40
instead of the water that
was brought from a stream,
00:46:07.43\00:46:10.33
I'm the water of life
that brings eternal life,
00:46:10.37\00:46:13.00
He magnified it,
made it even better,
00:46:13.03\00:46:15.24
instead of saying,
00:46:15.27\00:46:16.84
"If you kill somebody
you in danger of death,"
00:46:16.87\00:46:19.17
He said, "If you hate them,
00:46:19.21\00:46:21.41
you're in violating
00:46:21.44\00:46:23.85
the very law of
thou shalt not kill."
00:46:23.88\00:46:25.71
So He magnified it,
didn't make it smaller.
00:46:25.75\00:46:27.98
So when we think that
the law was done away with.
00:46:28.02\00:46:29.62
No, it's been magnified.
00:46:29.65\00:46:31.72
And I go back to my
original premise to those
00:46:31.75\00:46:33.76
who are not even Christian.
00:46:33.79\00:46:35.19
One of the reasons
why there's murder,
00:46:35.22\00:46:36.62
and crime, and
violence everywhere
00:46:36.66\00:46:38.16
is because the
Bible says in Isaiah 24:5,
00:46:38.19\00:46:41.16
"The earth is
defiled by its people,
00:46:41.20\00:46:43.57
they have disobeyed the laws,
00:46:43.60\00:46:45.60
they have violated his statutes,
00:46:45.63\00:46:47.64
and they broke the
everlasting covenant."
00:46:47.67\00:46:50.37
So what's happening
in parts of the world
00:46:50.41\00:46:52.37
where Jesus has not even known,
00:46:52.41\00:46:54.28
the effect of His violated law
00:46:54.31\00:46:56.75
is being shown that
it cannot be absent.
00:46:56.78\00:46:59.65
Okay.
00:46:59.68\00:47:01.02
If His law was done away with,
these things couldn't happen.
00:47:01.05\00:47:04.45
Nobody could die.
00:47:04.49\00:47:05.82
Where there is no
law, there is no sin.
00:47:05.85\00:47:07.19
Where there's no
sin, there's no death
00:47:07.22\00:47:08.56
because there's death,
00:47:08.59\00:47:09.92
there's a law
because there's a law,
00:47:09.96\00:47:11.59
there's a lawgiver.
00:47:11.63\00:47:12.96
And we're gonna define
that law in just a moment
00:47:12.99\00:47:14.66
in the second half and show you
00:47:14.70\00:47:16.43
how that law is
still in effect today
00:47:16.46\00:47:19.40
whether you're Christian or not.
00:47:19.43\00:47:21.17
All right. Now, Ryan.
00:47:21.20\00:47:23.00
I just wanna kind of just
feed off what he just said,
00:47:23.04\00:47:25.77
no matter who you are,
no matter where you are,
00:47:25.81\00:47:28.01
this law and its
effects go so deep.
00:47:28.04\00:47:30.58
I mean, it's very,
very much deep subject.
00:47:30.61\00:47:33.92
And I just want to
show you something here
00:47:33.95\00:47:35.28
because I've gotten
this question quite a bit.
00:47:35.32\00:47:36.95
And that is, you know,
00:47:36.99\00:47:38.52
you talked a lot about the
law in relation to Christianity,
00:47:38.55\00:47:41.79
especially when we're
doing evangelistic series,
00:47:41.82\00:47:43.83
we were
preaching to predominantly
00:47:43.86\00:47:46.59
a Christian crowd,
00:47:46.63\00:47:47.96
someone who already
has a preconceived idea
00:47:48.00\00:47:50.57
or, you know, an
exposing to the law of God
00:47:50.60\00:47:53.87
in the Christian Bible.
00:47:53.90\00:47:55.97
But it's interesting.
00:47:56.00\00:47:57.34
What about those people say out
00:47:57.37\00:47:58.81
in the middle of
the Amazon, or people,
00:47:58.84\00:48:01.28
you know, all the way
across in Papa New Guinea
00:48:01.31\00:48:03.41
or all of these very
00:48:03.45\00:48:06.38
remote places of
the earth that perhaps
00:48:06.41\00:48:08.78
maybe have never
heard the law of God.
00:48:08.82\00:48:10.55
Paul writes right
here, Romans Chapter 2,
00:48:10.59\00:48:13.32
I'm gonna begin with verse 12.
00:48:13.36\00:48:14.69
Notice what he says,
00:48:14.72\00:48:16.06
in regards to how deep
the law and its effects go.
00:48:16.09\00:48:21.10
Romans 2:12 says,
00:48:21.13\00:48:22.46
"For as many as
have sinned without law
00:48:22.50\00:48:24.67
will also perish without law,
00:48:24.70\00:48:27.40
and as many as
have sinned in the law
00:48:27.44\00:48:29.34
will be judged by the law."
00:48:29.37\00:48:31.37
And then he goes on to say,
"For not the hearers of the law
00:48:31.41\00:48:33.38
are just in the sight of God,
00:48:33.41\00:48:34.81
but the doers of the
law shall be justified."
00:48:34.84\00:48:37.58
He says, now notice this,
verse 14 and onward, it says,
00:48:37.61\00:48:40.38
"For when Gentiles," and
I just want to pause there,
00:48:40.42\00:48:42.68
Gentiles, in the
context of this passage,
00:48:42.72\00:48:45.25
would be likened
unto those people
00:48:45.29\00:48:46.69
who were
non-Christian, non-believers,
00:48:46.72\00:48:48.92
people who might not
have a prior knowledge
00:48:48.96\00:48:52.89
of the Bible in the law.
00:48:52.93\00:48:54.26
So "For when the Gentiles,
who do not have the law,"
00:48:54.30\00:48:57.23
here it is,
00:48:57.27\00:48:59.53
"by nature," okay,
00:48:59.57\00:49:01.70
so notice this is almost like
00:49:01.74\00:49:03.07
He's communicating
the God is instilled
00:49:03.10\00:49:04.87
within us something,
00:49:04.91\00:49:06.31
"by nature do the
things of the law,
00:49:06.34\00:49:09.11
these, although
not having the law,
00:49:09.14\00:49:11.61
are a law to themselves,
00:49:11.65\00:49:13.72
who show the work of the
law written in their hearts,
00:49:13.75\00:49:17.19
their conscience
also bearing witness,
00:49:17.22\00:49:19.82
and between
themselves and their thoughts
00:49:19.85\00:49:22.56
accusing or else
00:49:22.59\00:49:23.93
excusing themselves or them
00:49:23.96\00:49:26.19
in the day when God
will judge the secrets of men
00:49:26.23\00:49:28.66
by Jesus Christ,
according to my gospel."
00:49:28.70\00:49:31.27
So what He's writing
here, He's saying those people
00:49:31.30\00:49:33.27
who have not
necessarily been exposed to
00:49:33.30\00:49:35.20
or had a prior
knowledge to the law,
00:49:35.24\00:49:36.81
does that excuse them now,
00:49:36.84\00:49:38.17
does that mean that
they're not being judged?
00:49:38.21\00:49:40.01
No, no, no,
they're by nature He says.
00:49:40.04\00:49:42.48
There is something
within their conscience,
00:49:42.51\00:49:44.11
there's something
within their minds and hearts
00:49:44.15\00:49:45.91
that they will be judged by.
00:49:45.95\00:49:47.28
In other words, that
concept of good and evil,
00:49:47.32\00:49:49.82
right and wrong,
00:49:49.85\00:49:51.42
we were instilled
within us as a kid,
00:49:51.45\00:49:54.06
I remember that
before I really even knew
00:49:54.09\00:49:55.92
what the Ten Commandments were?
00:49:55.96\00:49:57.59
I knew it was instill with me,
00:49:57.63\00:49:59.16
do you know what
that's not my toy.
00:49:59.19\00:50:00.53
I shouldn't take it.
00:50:00.56\00:50:01.90
But there was
always that temptation,
00:50:01.93\00:50:03.26
whoo, I want it so bad, though,
00:50:03.30\00:50:04.70
you know, but there was
something within me that said,
00:50:04.73\00:50:06.23
"Oh, it's probably
not the best thing to do."
00:50:06.27\00:50:08.40
And I wanna really quickly with
00:50:08.44\00:50:09.77
before I pass it
on to Pastor Kenny.
00:50:09.80\00:50:13.21
The word fulfill,
00:50:13.24\00:50:14.58
you mentioned that
over in Matthew Chapter 5,
00:50:14.61\00:50:16.54
actually was Yvonne
that mentioned the scripture
00:50:16.58\00:50:18.51
and then the word fulfilled,
I just wanna make mention here.
00:50:18.55\00:50:21.08
This is a
powerful covenant language.
00:50:21.12\00:50:23.62
Okay, we're talking
about covenant language here.
00:50:23.65\00:50:25.42
And I know we've thrown
that word around quite a bit.
00:50:25.45\00:50:27.59
But when I think of Christ
being a fulfillment of the law,
00:50:27.62\00:50:30.43
obviously, He's
fulfilling the law
00:50:30.46\00:50:32.79
in the sense of
something that came before Him,
00:50:32.83\00:50:34.83
a covenant agreement,
00:50:34.86\00:50:36.23
something that was set
in place far before Him.
00:50:36.26\00:50:38.30
I'm gonna go back to
the origin of this covenant
00:50:38.33\00:50:41.44
in relation to
the commandment law.
00:50:41.47\00:50:43.84
This is found in Exodus 19:5-8.
00:50:43.87\00:50:46.94
Notice what the Bible says here.
00:50:46.98\00:50:48.84
Now I'm not
gonna read all of this,
00:50:48.88\00:50:50.21
but I want you to see here,
00:50:50.25\00:50:52.95
that basically,
00:50:52.98\00:50:54.32
God has told Moses go down
and tell my people these words,
00:50:54.35\00:50:58.12
and this is what he says,
00:50:58.15\00:50:59.59
"Now therefore, if you
will indeed obey My voice,
00:50:59.62\00:51:03.02
and keep My covenant,
00:51:03.06\00:51:04.46
then you shall be a
special treasure to Me
00:51:04.49\00:51:06.39
above all people, for
all the earth is Mine.
00:51:06.43\00:51:08.76
And you shall be to Me
00:51:08.80\00:51:10.47
a kingdom of
priests and holy nation.
00:51:10.50\00:51:12.50
These are the words
which you shall speak
00:51:12.53\00:51:13.94
to the children of Israel."
00:51:13.97\00:51:15.30
Okay, so God basically
calls Moses up the mountain,
00:51:15.34\00:51:17.31
He says, "Look, I want
them to be My special people,
00:51:17.34\00:51:20.08
I want these to be My people."
00:51:20.11\00:51:21.44
Now keep in mind,
00:51:21.48\00:51:22.81
these people have been
in 400 years of bondage.
00:51:22.84\00:51:24.41
Okay.
00:51:24.45\00:51:25.78
Now while they might
have had traditional stories
00:51:25.81\00:51:28.45
and sayings that
had been passed down,
00:51:28.48\00:51:30.09
they had not been exposed
00:51:30.12\00:51:31.59
to God's laws
and God's principles
00:51:31.62\00:51:33.46
for more than 400 years.
00:51:33.49\00:51:34.99
So now God is
taking these people saying,
00:51:35.02\00:51:36.46
I want these to be My people.
00:51:36.49\00:51:38.09
But here's the condition,
00:51:38.13\00:51:39.46
we used this word
a few minutes ago,
00:51:39.49\00:51:40.83
while God does give the promise,
00:51:40.86\00:51:42.36
He brings a
special condition with it.
00:51:42.40\00:51:44.20
Okay.
00:51:44.23\00:51:45.57
That if,
00:51:45.60\00:51:47.14
only if you will obey My
voice and keep My covenant,
00:51:47.17\00:51:50.07
then you shall be
My people, indeed.
00:51:50.11\00:51:52.91
And I just wanna end with this
and pass it on to Pastor Kenny
00:51:52.94\00:51:56.08
that we're headed
in this direction.
00:51:56.11\00:51:58.81
And this is gonna take us
a while to break this down.
00:51:58.85\00:52:00.75
But, you know, it's one thing
when you see the secular world,
00:52:00.78\00:52:04.45
people out there in the world
00:52:04.49\00:52:05.82
who necessarily
don't believe in God.
00:52:05.85\00:52:08.19
They struggle with the
belief that there even is a God
00:52:08.22\00:52:10.73
and especially with this concept
00:52:10.76\00:52:12.23
of good and
evil, right and wrong.
00:52:12.26\00:52:14.70
But it's a whole another thing,
00:52:14.73\00:52:16.10
when you have a people
that claim to be Christian,
00:52:16.13\00:52:19.83
that are taking
on the name of God
00:52:19.87\00:52:21.70
that have created
institutions in the name of God,
00:52:21.74\00:52:24.37
who are now within
the Christian world,
00:52:24.41\00:52:27.71
and telling the
rest of the world
00:52:27.74\00:52:29.68
that this law that
God has set in place
00:52:29.71\00:52:32.11
is no longer in effect.
00:52:32.15\00:52:33.72
Pastor Kenny, what
do we do with that?
00:52:33.75\00:52:35.28
It's good. Good.
00:52:35.32\00:52:36.65
Yeah. I got
feeling. Yeah. Go ahead.
00:52:36.69\00:52:38.75
To me that's the
ultimate challenge
00:52:38.79\00:52:41.42
is that now the
secular people are looking
00:52:41.46\00:52:43.12
inside the Christian
church and they're saying,
00:52:43.16\00:52:45.19
you people don't even
agree with each other,
00:52:45.23\00:52:46.63
you talk about
good and evil sin,
00:52:46.66\00:52:49.16
you know, right from
wrong, but, you know,
00:52:49.20\00:52:52.00
if there's a law
00:52:52.03\00:52:53.37
should we keep
it or should we not
00:52:53.40\00:52:54.74
much of the
Christian will today say,
00:52:54.77\00:52:56.17
that law is was done away with.
00:52:56.20\00:52:57.54
I know what Brother Kenny does
00:52:57.57\00:52:58.91
what he's been
doing for 35 years
00:52:58.94\00:53:00.54
just tell the truth, right?
00:53:00.58\00:53:02.38
That's right.
Continue telling the truth.
00:53:02.41\00:53:04.51
We need to in the Word
of God 'cause, you know,
00:53:04.55\00:53:06.21
we talked about the
law, we talked about abolish,
00:53:06.25\00:53:08.15
done away with, we hear
that so often, don't we?
00:53:08.18\00:53:10.42
Done away with it.
00:53:10.45\00:53:11.79
Abolish... I used to believe it.
00:53:11.82\00:53:13.15
Well, probably some here
probably used to believe that
00:53:13.19\00:53:15.62
but, you know, when you
think about abolish just,
00:53:15.66\00:53:17.79
food for thought.
00:53:17.83\00:53:19.16
And I always say
you can hang your hat
00:53:19.19\00:53:20.90
or you can throw
it out if you want to.
00:53:20.93\00:53:22.60
But if the law is
abolished here, you can...
00:53:22.63\00:53:25.03
Now be careful with it.
00:53:25.07\00:53:26.40
You can hate God,
00:53:26.43\00:53:27.77
and you can
hate your fellow man.
00:53:27.80\00:53:30.07
Think about it.
00:53:30.11\00:53:31.44
If it's abolished
00:53:31.47\00:53:32.81
because on these two hang all
00:53:32.84\00:53:34.31
law and the testaments.
00:53:34.34\00:53:35.68
That's right.
00:53:35.71\00:53:37.05
And also, when I read in Romans,
00:53:37.08\00:53:38.48
what is it 7:14,
00:53:38.51\00:53:40.72
it tells right then if
we're debating about a law,
00:53:40.75\00:53:43.35
it says, "The law is," what?
00:53:43.39\00:53:44.75
Holy. It's holy.
00:53:44.79\00:53:46.35
It's spiritual,
isn't it, number one.
00:53:46.39\00:53:47.92
So we know the law is spiritual.
00:53:47.96\00:53:49.29
So why would you want to do away
00:53:49.32\00:53:50.66
with something that's spiritual,
00:53:50.69\00:53:52.03
something that's
holy, something that's just,
00:53:52.06\00:53:53.70
something that's good?
00:53:53.73\00:53:55.26
So that sets us on a
good firm foundation.
00:53:55.30\00:53:57.70
I read that passage
here I think it was in.
00:53:57.73\00:54:00.57
I think it's Romans
7:14, is what I wanted.
00:54:00.60\00:54:02.80
Yes. Yes.
00:54:02.84\00:54:04.17
"For we know that
the law is spiritual,
00:54:04.21\00:54:06.88
but I am carnal,
00:54:06.91\00:54:08.58
sold under sin."
00:54:08.61\00:54:12.11
So we know number
one that it's spiritual.
00:54:12.15\00:54:14.88
So rather than say,
it's done away with,
00:54:14.92\00:54:16.95
it's abolished, we
no longer have to do it.
00:54:16.99\00:54:18.99
What do we do with
something that's...
00:54:19.02\00:54:21.19
My question goes
at, what do we do
00:54:21.22\00:54:22.56
with something that's spiritual?
00:54:22.59\00:54:23.93
Oh.
00:54:23.96\00:54:25.29
Should we throw it
out? Can we throw it out?
00:54:25.33\00:54:26.66
Or should we even
think about throwing it out
00:54:26.70\00:54:28.90
if it's spiritual
00:54:28.93\00:54:30.33
because we think
that belongs to God?
00:54:30.37\00:54:32.90
Amen. Amen.
00:54:32.93\00:54:34.30
Something He's given to us.
00:54:34.34\00:54:35.67
So I just, you know,
I'm challenged with that.
00:54:35.70\00:54:38.61
And I want to challenge people
saying that's right. Yeah.
00:54:38.64\00:54:41.14
It's spiritual.
00:54:41.18\00:54:42.51
I got a lot, I
wanna say but it's...
00:54:42.54\00:54:43.88
Oh, good. Praise God.
00:54:43.91\00:54:45.25
You got it. Go ahead.
00:54:45.28\00:54:46.61
You got it man, go
ahead. You got it man, so.
00:54:46.65\00:54:48.18
You're gonna have to wait
and start me on the next side.
00:54:48.22\00:54:51.55
All right, you know, Ryan,
when you were talking about
00:54:51.59\00:54:53.92
we got just a minute or so here.
00:54:53.96\00:54:55.69
You said people and say
00:54:55.72\00:54:57.06
you just throw
out Papua New Guinea.
00:54:57.09\00:54:59.36
John, you've been
there, I've been there.
00:54:59.39\00:55:00.73
But here's what was interesting.
00:55:00.76\00:55:02.36
And especially 1950s and '60s,
00:55:02.40\00:55:05.00
when so many of
our missionaries,
00:55:05.03\00:55:06.70
Adventist missionaries
were going into then these,
00:55:06.74\00:55:10.74
you know, places
00:55:10.77\00:55:12.11
where the gospel had never been.
00:55:12.14\00:55:14.01
But the missionaries came back
00:55:14.04\00:55:15.61
with different
stories than what we thought.
00:55:15.64\00:55:18.48
The missionary says,
00:55:18.51\00:55:20.12
"They have a way of life
00:55:20.15\00:55:22.38
and they have lost."
00:55:22.42\00:55:23.75
That's right.
00:55:23.79\00:55:25.12
One man, one woman,
00:55:25.15\00:55:26.49
no woman to
woman, no man to man.
00:55:26.52\00:55:28.62
And this is in the
1950s through someone
00:55:28.66\00:55:30.73
who'd never read a
Bible, never heard about God.
00:55:30.76\00:55:33.96
They knew when it saying
00:55:34.00\00:55:35.50
there's
something there by nature,
00:55:35.53\00:55:37.57
they do what is
right, they knew it.
00:55:37.60\00:55:39.23
There were laws for adultery.
00:55:39.27\00:55:42.20
There's laws for
stealing, against stealing.
00:55:42.24\00:55:44.54
So they had
literally the last six,
00:55:44.57\00:55:47.31
you know, your duties to man.
00:55:47.34\00:55:50.58
They already knew all of that.
00:55:50.61\00:55:52.15
Now they had,
we're serving to the best
00:55:52.18\00:55:54.75
they knew how of
gods with little G's.
00:55:54.78\00:55:59.02
But then when the gospel came,
00:55:59.05\00:56:01.29
they saw the big
picture and they accepted.
00:56:01.32\00:56:03.66
So these people,
00:56:03.69\00:56:05.23
that's what it means
when you say judging,
00:56:05.26\00:56:07.30
well, how about these people?
00:56:07.33\00:56:08.66
You know what?
00:56:08.70\00:56:10.03
There's a big
difference in those folk,
00:56:10.07\00:56:11.70
and what you were
saying, people within the church
00:56:11.73\00:56:14.90
and that's why we
came up with the name
00:56:14.94\00:56:17.51
Ten Commandments Twice Removed.
00:56:17.54\00:56:19.41
We said here,
all of these people
00:56:19.44\00:56:21.44
putting signs in their yards
00:56:21.48\00:56:23.08
during Judge Roy Moore's ordeal,
00:56:23.11\00:56:25.45
putting signs in the yards,
showing the Ten Commandments.
00:56:25.48\00:56:28.85
But if you knock
on the door, and say,
00:56:28.88\00:56:31.09
"Do you keep the
commandments of God."
00:56:31.12\00:56:32.65
They say, "Oh, well, they
were nailed to the cross."
00:56:32.69\00:56:34.32
Oh. So I say,
"Now, wait a minute."
00:56:34.36\00:56:35.96
So the church actually did
away with commandments first.
00:56:35.99\00:56:39.86
Now the government's doing it.
00:56:39.89\00:56:41.70
And they're
wondering, well, why so we say
00:56:41.73\00:56:43.57
the Ten
Commandments Twice Removed.
00:56:43.60\00:56:45.90
Speaking of that, that
book is available to you,
00:56:45.93\00:56:49.07
all you have to do
is pay the shipping,
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22 cents per book.
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If you just wanna
single copy tonight to read,
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we're happy to
send that to you also.
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But we have some left.
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Out of the
million, we're down to 100
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and some odd thousand left.
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So first come first serve.
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If you call and you're
willing to pass these books out
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because we have
seen tremendous results.
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And literally I think I can say
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thousands of people
have come to know the Lord.
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Amen.
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And understand truth
and even numbers of pastors
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from other denominations
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who read the book
who have converted
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and will have some of
those at camp meeting for sure.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, we're gonna
have to take a break
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for the first hour,
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but we will be
back in just a moment.
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So don't go away.
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Can I have...?
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