Welcome back to the
second part of our program.
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Jay, I'm being so blessed.
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I am too and seeing
prayer and even a deeper light.
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Yes. Yes.
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And I think that,
it's just so important
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that we really revisit
prayer on a regular basis
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because that's how,
that's how we connect with God.
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And make it
practical, not formal.
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Yes. Yes.
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Let's just talk to God.
That's what Adam and Eve did.
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You know, you hear sometimes...
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[inaudible]
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Come into your prayer closet
and just talk to talk to me.
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Just talk to me because I don't
talk differently to you, right?
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That's right. That's right.
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So I want to talk to God.
I don't want to be flippant.
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Right. Right, I
want to be respectful.
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Absolutely.
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And we are respectful in a
way and we should be respectful
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when we
communicate to one another
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and then with God too,
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but to go off in this
whole different language
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or this whole
different way of talking,
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you know, what I'm saying,
and not just communicate.
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And I think that makes prayer
difficult for some people.
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I think so too.
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Well, it formalizes it in a
way that makes it uncomfortable
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so that you don't feel
like you're talking to a friend.
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It's too... I
think it needs to...
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We need to consider
and I read this somewhere
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where you're talking to a king,
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so you're going to
have that kind of respect,
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like you're talking to a king
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but that king is
your best friend.
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So you have both, you
know, the respect factor
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and the intimacy.
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So Abraham, and I just want
to just give a little bit of...
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A little bit of
practical, biblical perspective
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on how we can pray to God.
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Oh, good.
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So Abraham is very respectful
to the God of all the earth,
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destroy a city of
these 50 righteous men.
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He's asking, he's quiet.
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We can question God,
if we do it respectfully.
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What about 45? What about 40?
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What about 20? What about 10?
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You would do that,
would you? Would you?
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And then you have
Moses. I can't talk.
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I can't do this.
There's no way I can do this.
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What am I going
to tell him if...
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Who's sending me?
What am I gonna say?
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You see what I'm
saying. It's very heartfelt.
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And then David's
like, God help me,
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and here's how I feel right now.
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I'm so angry, I just
want you to consume him,
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just take him out.
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That's how I feel about
it, I just want, but we don't,
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we never talked
to God like that,
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like that would be a
reflection on us, wouldn't it?
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So we want to say,
"I'm a good Christian,
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I love people so much and so,
if you could answer my prayers
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because I go to church and pray.
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No, David is real with
God, Abraham is real with God,
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Moses is real with
God, but they're real
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about their own
struggles, their weaknesses,
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and the fears that they
have and they express that.
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And then the disciples,
when you see them praying,
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you don't hear necessarily
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what they're
saying in the upper room
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but you know
what they're saying.
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You know what they're saying.
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They're just
like, man I messed up.
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Man, I messed up. Yeah.
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You know what's
interesting to like when...
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If you take it
back to Genesis, right,
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when Adam and Eve
were in the garden
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and they had sinned,
and God was looking for them
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and He started asking
them a series of questions.
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I mean, that's so much
like a parent, you know,
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you do something wrong,
and then they ask you questions
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they already know
the answer to, so...
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Why did you to
come to self-revelation
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and they want you
to be honest yeah,
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to work through
it and to be honest.
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And even Peter so,
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here's another
prayer engagement with Peter
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that's, that is clear, okay.
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So after Jesus is resurrected,
He comes to the lakeside
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and they're out
on the fishing boat,
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and have you any
meat and they don't,
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throw it on the other
side, they get it full,
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and then he come, it's the Lord.
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And so they eat and then Peter
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is tested by Christ three times.
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So, Peter, do you love me?
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He says, "You know,
Lord, you know my heart"
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before he was
supposed, you know my heart.
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It's interesting
because when Jesus asked him,
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"Do you love Me."
He uses the word agape.
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And the first time He asked him,
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he says and this
is John 21:15, 16, 17.
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Do you agape me more than these?
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Because remember He said,
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"They'll forsake
you, but I won't."
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And Peter's
like, "Lord, you know.
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You know that I..."
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And the word he uses is
Phileo. You know, I Phileo You.
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I don't agape You, I Phileo You.
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And then Jesus asks
him the second time,
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"Do you love me, agape.
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Do you agape Me." He
doesn't say more than these.
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And Peter says,
"You know, I Phileo you."
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And then the third
time, He asked him,
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Peter, "Do you even Phileo me?"
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Now, what's the difference?
Tell us the difference?
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So agape love is a love
that is describes God's love.
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It's based on
principles immovable.
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Phileo love is like family.
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It's like the love we
have for blood where...
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But you know there's some stuff,
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that can one
forsake here suckling child.
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Yeah, she can, but
I won't forsake you.
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That's God's love.
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So Phileo love is more
like feeling an emotion.
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Okay.
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So when Peter
was in the courtyard,
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he was overwhelmed
with his feelings and fear,
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and he denied Christ.
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Agape love doesn't do that.
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Agape love stays
true all the way.
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It says in John 13:1 that
Jesus loved them unto the end.
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They forsook
Him, they denied Him,
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He still loved them, see.
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So Jesus is questioning Peter.
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And Peter finally says,
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"I guess, I
don't even Phileo You,
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like I don't even have, I
don't have any love really
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in and of myself."
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So here's this
communication and then...
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[inaudible]
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He knows our hearts. Right.
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And so that's what Peter says.
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He says, Lord, you
know, you know. You know me.
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I don't have to give
you any flowery speeches.
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I don't have to
pretend that I am.
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You know the
wretchedness of this heart,
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and that's the
bottom line for me.
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Sometimes when we
pray, we pray about
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all the
wretchedness of other people,
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but what God really wants us
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to get to the
bottom of our wretchedness
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who we are down here,
how we feel about the people
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that we're
pretending with the situations
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that we're
trying to make look good
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when really down in our hearts,
and then God can cure that,
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He can take care of,
He can take that out.
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But we got to
be honest with Him.
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We do. And we have to
turn it over to Him...
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Yeah.
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Because we can't
change ourselves.
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Right.
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You know, we
cannot change ourselves.
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So if we just
give it to the Lord
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and ask Him to
show us who we are,
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to show us because
the heart is deceitful
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and desperately wicked,
right, and who can know it?
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So we have to ask Him like,
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"Lord, please show me who I am."
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Can He changes? Can He?
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Absolutely.
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That's the good
news right there.
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Yes, that's right. That's right.
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Only He can. Only He can.
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So okay, so go
ahead. I love that.
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No, I'm good. I'm
good. Okay, we have question.
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We do have questions,
but let's go to a song
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before we jump
into the questions.
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That sounds good.
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So we have the
Burchfield Brothers
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who they're going to bless
us with "Be Still My Soul."
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Be Still My Soul, so beautiful.
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I love the
Burchfield Brothers. Yes.
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And we're talking
about prayer, so be still.
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Exactly, exactly and
just focus on the Lord
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and just talk to
Him, just talk to Him.
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We have some
questions and answers.
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Speaking of, I mean,
you have the answers,
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we have the questions.
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That's right.
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So you've been
sending in your questions,
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and please continue to do that.
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We're going to ask
answers as many as we can.
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Jay, you have some. I do.
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So well, first, this young lady,
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Patty starts off by
saying, "Guys, I am so glad
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you will have the Daniel series
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with quite a few
exclamation marks.
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I've been waiting
for it." Praise God.
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And her question is,
"If we know that things
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are going to get more
challenging when we pray,
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would it make any difference?"
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And then I am, she
says, "I am so scared
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about what is going on.
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I can see where this is going.
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I can see the beast
getting deeper and deeper
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and becoming more visible
at a fast and rapid rate.
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But I know that it will
get worse it is prophesied,
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would it make any
difference to pray."
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So this is where I want to
get into the Great Controversy
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just a little bit,
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and I want to get
through Revelation also,
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just the two,
Book of Revelation,
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the Great
Controversy which I think
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is inspired
commentary on Revelation,
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it's really powerful.
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And in the Book of Revelation,
we have a beast picture there.
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There's two, one out of the sea,
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one out of the land.
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In Revelation 13:11,
the beast out of the land,
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it has two lamblike horns.
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And those lamblike
horns represent gentleness.
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They represent
Christian principles.
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I believe that
denotes liberty and freedom,
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freedom of
conscience in civil matters
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as well as freedom of conscience
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in religious matters.
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And we talk about this nation
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of the United States of America.
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There's a difference
between the political part of it
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and the principles
that made this nation great.
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And a lot of
people that are patriotic,
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they don't always know
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how to
differentiate between the two.
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And my loyalty
is to the principles
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that made this nation great
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because those principles
I think are represented
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in the Book of Revelation.
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They're
represented in the Bible.
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They're represented
all through the Bible.
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And, so when I
stand for patriotism,
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I stand for those
principles, regardless of what,
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how the
government is changing that.
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And I think David
gave us the same example.
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You know, he
stood for principle,
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regardless of what Saul
did, regardless of how he acted.
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David stood for principle.
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He was a man
after God's own heart.
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So the question is asked there
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is really powerful
and really important one.
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And the answer is powerful.
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And that is, we've just
gone through the entire Bible
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and showed how
powerful prayer is
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and how prayer
makes a difference.
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And every crisis
that we've looked at
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is culminates in
the Book of Revelation,
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'cause the Book of Revelation
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simply culminates
all the past crisis.
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So you're talking about
what Abraham went through.
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You're talking about
what Moses went through.
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You're talking about
what David went through.
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Well, what delivered
them? What helped them?
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Well, we left one guy out
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and this guy really connects
with the Book of Revelation,
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and you know who that guy is?
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Daniel.
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Is Daniel a man of prayer,
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like, was prayer
important to him?
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Three times a day at least.
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Now, as soon as Daniel
gets into political arena,
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you got
understand for our viewers,
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we haven't done Daniel
yet so you know this is,
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it may be new territory
for some of the viewers,
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but as soon as
Daniel's in the political arena,
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and he is with
three of his friends,
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they're being educated
to fill political positions.
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And right away,
they're confronted
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with conflicts with what
they believe conscientiously,
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and it's on the level of food,
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and what they're going to eat,
what they're going to drink.
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And the first
thing they do is pray.
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They give it to God.
00:14:37.31\00:14:38.64
And as Daniel surrenders to God,
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he makes a request
to be tried for 10 days.
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He goes through this
test, and he's proven
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that he can be healthy
on this vegetarian diet
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of pulse and water, right?
00:14:52.29\00:14:54.32
And immediately,
Chapter 2 delivers a dream
00:14:54.36\00:14:57.96
that
Nebuchadnezzar has, the king has
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and he can't remember.
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And right away,
Daniel and his friends
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are threatened with
the loss of their life.
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What's the first
thing they do? Pray.
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Give us time, we
gonna pray to God,
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and they go and pray to God.
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And no one in the whole
kingdom can help Nebuchadnezzar.
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He is so upset that
all of his wise men,
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all of his vice-presidents
and all of his, you know,
00:15:17.85\00:15:21.12
council and you
know, his cabinetry,
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nobody can help him.
00:15:24.69\00:15:26.02
The senate can't help him,
the congress can't help him,
00:15:26.05\00:15:27.96
none of the
house representatives,
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nobody can't help him, right?
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Right.
00:15:30.73\00:15:32.06
And Daniel's praying
and God gives him an answer.
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And you know,
when he goes in there,
00:15:35.20\00:15:36.67
he prays, he
says, "We need to pray
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that God won't let us perish
00:15:38.17\00:15:40.04
with all the
wise men of Babylon.
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We don't want to
die with the senators,
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we don't want to die with
the house representatives,
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you know."
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When he comes out, he says,
"Don't kill any of the senate,
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don't kill any of the democrats,
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don't kill any of
the republicans," right?
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"God's given us
an answer," right?
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So prayer changes us,
not just gives us answer
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but changes us, you see.
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Daniel has this
experience where his prayer time
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caused him to bring an answer
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that saved the
house of representatives
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whether they're
democrats or republicans,
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you can choose which
ones are the bad guys.
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Right. Right. That's up to you.
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And so prayer is powerful.
00:16:13.94\00:16:15.94
Now, Daniel understands that
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so by the time you
get to Nebuchadnezzar
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which is one
president, prime minister, king
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to the next one
which is Belshazzar,
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another president,
prime minister, king,
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to the next one which is Darius,
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another president,
prime minister, king.
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Daniel's like
he's hooked on prayer,
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like evening,
morning and at noon,
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"Well, I pray and cry aloud
and God will hear my voice."
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And so, then the
political guys, right,
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the opposition party, whether
that's republic or democrat,
00:16:38.59\00:16:41.86
we don't know, can't tell.
00:16:41.90\00:16:45.30
They're like, "We got to
get this guy out of here"
00:16:45.33\00:16:47.00
and they try to find mud on him.
00:16:47.04\00:16:49.20
Man, he's squeaky clean,
like this guy is a really clean
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like, you know, this
is Ben Carson type guy,
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you know what I mean.
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We can't find
nothing on this guy.
00:16:57.61\00:16:58.95
And so what they
do is they realize
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that the only way we can get him
00:17:01.65\00:17:03.39
is if we bring up something
in relation to his God,
00:17:03.42\00:17:08.19
so they talked
Darius into passing a law
00:17:08.22\00:17:11.06
that nobody can
ask a petition hallow.
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No one can talk to anyone
except for Darius, no God.
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Daniel's like,
always talking to God,
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so now I mean, Daniel's faced
with this incredible thing,
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do I preserve my
political position influence
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or do I preserve prayer?
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Which one do I choose? Right?
00:17:31.95\00:17:34.38
And which one
does he choose? Prayer.
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Is prayer powerful? Yeah.
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He doesn't even
let his shade down.
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No.
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You know, he doesn't
hide that he is praying
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three times a day.
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This is his testimony.
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This is the time
when he's gonna give
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all the glory to God.
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If you're God and
give glory to Him,
00:17:49.50\00:17:50.83
the hour of the
judgment has come.
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And so he prays
openly and God delivers him.
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Yeah, so whatever
we're facing, the lions,
00:17:56.10\00:17:59.81
the devouring lions
that are coming at us
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in that pit that
were being thrown into
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in Revelation that
the question was asked,
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whatever facing, does
prayer make a difference?
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Oh, if it
doesn't, then the Bible,
00:18:08.48\00:18:10.75
we just might as well
throw the Bible out the window.
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Because every single
story throughout the Bible,
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Old and New Testament
tells us that the only way
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that the church is going
to have any kind of footing,
00:18:18.26\00:18:20.20
any kind of influence,
any kind of real estate,
00:18:20.23\00:18:22.63
any kind of
impact on this world,
00:18:22.66\00:18:25.07
is if the church
lays aside politics
00:18:25.10\00:18:27.54
and become men
and women of prayer.
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That's it. That's our answer.
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Yes. It's good. It's good.
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Yeah, that is. That is.
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What question do you have, Mom?
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Since Adam and Eve had
to eat from the tree of life
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to maintain life, where we also
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have to eat from the
tree to maintain life as well?
00:18:42.12\00:18:44.99
That's an easy answer, yes.
00:18:45.02\00:18:47.09
So when they sinned,
they weren't allowed access,
00:18:47.12\00:18:49.12
because they're mortal sinners.
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And then when you go
to the Book of Revelation,
00:18:51.33\00:18:52.83
it says, "Hey, there's a
tree of life," Revelation 22,
00:18:52.86\00:18:55.03
"it's going to have 12
manner of fruit every month
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it's going to give another
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and we're going
to eat of that tree,
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live forever."
00:18:59.90\00:19:01.24
Easy answer. That's good.
00:19:01.27\00:19:04.54
Okay, here's another one, Jay.
00:19:04.57\00:19:06.17
It seems like there's a debate
00:19:06.21\00:19:07.64
among the
different denominations
00:19:07.68\00:19:09.18
about whether Saturday
or Sunday is the Sabbath.
00:19:09.21\00:19:12.25
Can you please
elaborate on this topic?
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Absolutely.
00:19:14.62\00:19:15.95
So from Genesis to Revelation,
the Bible is crystal clear,
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the seventh day Saturday
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is the Sabbath
of the Lord our God.
00:19:21.76\00:19:23.12
Now I say that coming
from a Catholic background,
00:19:23.16\00:19:25.33
I was raised Catholic,
went to church every Sunday.
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And when I was first introduced
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to the idea of going to
church on Saturday, I thought...
00:19:28.90\00:19:31.23
It was my sister who
talked to me about, I thought,
00:19:31.27\00:19:32.90
that's ridiculous, come on,
who goes to church on Saturday,
00:19:32.93\00:19:36.27
that's not in the Bible.
00:19:36.30\00:19:37.81
Give me a Bible,
I'll show you it's Sunday,
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you know what I'm
saying, that was my attitude.
00:19:39.64\00:19:41.51
And so I've researched this,
00:19:41.54\00:19:42.88
but here's the
problem with Sabbath Sunday.
00:19:42.91\00:19:46.48
I've met a lot of people
that go to church on Sunday,
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who seem to be more
Christian, more Christ like
00:19:49.92\00:19:53.79
than people that go
to church on the Sabbath,
00:19:53.82\00:19:56.66
like sometimes when
we look at the history,
00:19:56.69\00:19:59.09
for example of the Jews.
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The Jews
persecuted and killed Christ.
00:20:00.86\00:20:03.80
Now we're Christians
because we follow Christ.
00:20:03.83\00:20:06.74
And it's very important
for us not to become so Jewish
00:20:06.77\00:20:12.47
in the way that
we focus on the law,
00:20:12.51\00:20:14.64
and keeping the Sabbath
00:20:14.68\00:20:16.01
that we actually end
up persecuting Christ
00:20:16.04\00:20:19.21
in the way that we treat people.
00:20:19.25\00:20:21.08
So what I try to remind us
00:20:21.12\00:20:22.45
is what I think is
really important is,
00:20:22.48\00:20:24.45
the Sabbath is not a
theological doctrinal issue
00:20:24.49\00:20:27.79
as much as it is a sign
of our salvation in Jesus,
00:20:27.82\00:20:33.50
our dependence on Christ.
00:20:33.53\00:20:34.86
It's a sign of
righteousness by faith.
00:20:34.90\00:20:37.10
So when you look at the Sabbath
00:20:37.13\00:20:38.47
in its
institution in the beginning,
00:20:38.50\00:20:40.94
i.e., the seventh
day that God rested
00:20:40.97\00:20:43.81
when He created the world.
00:20:43.84\00:20:45.41
Here's the picture you get.
00:20:45.44\00:20:47.18
God created the whole
world without us for us.
00:20:47.21\00:20:50.65
Nothing we could
point to and say, Hey,
00:20:50.68\00:20:52.01
see that tree over there?
00:20:52.05\00:20:53.38
God made the
trunk, I put on the limbs,
00:20:53.42\00:20:54.75
He put on the
leaves, I put on the fruit.
00:20:54.78\00:20:56.12
No, we were
made on the last day.
00:20:56.15\00:20:58.05
And the first thing that
God asked us to do was to rest.
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Like, Whoa! What?
00:21:02.49\00:21:04.13
Just rest, rest in everything
I did for you, without you.
00:21:04.16\00:21:08.33
That's the Sabbath.
00:21:08.36\00:21:09.73
So when we fall, Jesus comes.
00:21:09.76\00:21:13.20
He trod the winepress alone
00:21:13.23\00:21:15.50
of the people who
was none with Him.
00:21:15.54\00:21:17.01
He did it all
for us, without us.
00:21:17.04\00:21:20.21
He accomplished our
complete redemption.
00:21:20.24\00:21:22.24
He lived a perfect
life, that's what we need.
00:21:22.28\00:21:24.31
He died our
satisfactionary death
00:21:24.35\00:21:26.11
for our sins,
that's what we need.
00:21:26.15\00:21:27.82
And He says, "Now
I want you to rest
00:21:27.85\00:21:29.18
in everything I did."
00:21:29.22\00:21:30.55
In fact, just
like creation week,
00:21:30.59\00:21:32.12
on the sixth day,
when He was on the cross,
00:21:32.15\00:21:34.52
He said what God
said, "It is finished."
00:21:34.56\00:21:37.89
And then He rested.
00:21:37.93\00:21:39.26
And so He wants us, the
Sabbath is a sign of us resting
00:21:39.29\00:21:42.86
in His completed
salvationary work.
00:21:42.90\00:21:44.93
When we see it that way,
boom, it becomes significant.
00:21:44.97\00:21:49.40
And I think in that context,
the Sabbath in the last day,
00:21:49.44\00:21:52.44
the call in Revelation 14:6,
three angels' message, ABN,
00:21:52.47\00:21:55.98
worship God!
00:21:56.01\00:21:57.55
Revelation 6:7,
the everlasting gospel.
00:21:57.58\00:21:59.38
The gospel is rest in Christ,
trust in Christ, trust in Him.
00:21:59.41\00:22:01.72
He said, "Worship God
who made heaven, and earth,
00:22:01.75\00:22:03.75
and sea and all."
00:22:03.79\00:22:05.12
Wait a minute, that's
going back to Genesis,
00:22:05.15\00:22:06.59
that's creation week,
00:22:06.62\00:22:07.96
that remind us of
the seventh day Sabbath.
00:22:07.99\00:22:09.56
"Worship God
because the seventh day
00:22:09.59\00:22:11.86
is the Sabbath of
the Lord, thy God."
00:22:11.89\00:22:13.23
Exodus 20:8-11.
00:22:13.26\00:22:15.43
Wait a minute, that's
talking about the Sabbath.
00:22:15.46\00:22:17.03
Why is that in the
everlasting gospel?
00:22:17.07\00:22:18.67
Don't receive the
mark of the beast,
00:22:18.70\00:22:20.87
because the mark of the
beast is all about trusting
00:22:20.90\00:22:23.30
what we can do, and
not what God has done.
00:22:23.34\00:22:27.31
That's the real conflict.
00:22:27.34\00:22:28.68
It's not about a day, as
much it is about trusting
00:22:28.71\00:22:31.31
what Christ has done or
trusting on what we can do.
00:22:31.35\00:22:33.78
That's the last day conflict
that we were looking at.
00:22:33.82\00:22:35.55
Yes, yes.
00:22:35.58\00:22:36.92
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Whoa!
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Yes.
00:23:21.83\00:23:23.16
Now this question
that I'm about to ask you.
00:23:23.20\00:23:25.43
We've been
getting a lot of these,
00:23:25.47\00:23:26.80
and I'm sure you've
seen them in your email
00:23:26.84\00:23:28.70
because I've sent you
some of these questions.
00:23:28.74\00:23:32.54
This one says, "Is the 144,000
00:23:32.57\00:23:36.85
a symbolic number
or a literal number?
00:23:36.88\00:23:40.68
When is Daniel...
00:23:40.72\00:23:42.38
Okay, and then when is Daniel
00:23:42.42\00:23:43.75
scheduled for
Salvation in Symbols?
00:23:43.79\00:23:46.05
April.
00:23:46.09\00:23:47.42
We're scheduled to
record it in April.
00:23:47.46\00:23:48.79
Yeah, but then
sometime after that.
00:23:48.82\00:23:50.36
Right. It won't
air in April but...
00:23:50.39\00:23:52.59
So is it symbolic or literal?
00:23:52.63\00:23:54.83
So the 144,000 are mentioned
in three places in the Bible,
00:23:54.86\00:23:58.43
Revelation 7, Revelation 14,
00:23:58.47\00:24:00.77
and they're not mentioned
by name in Revelation 15,
00:24:00.80\00:24:03.47
but they are there
on the sea of glass,
00:24:03.51\00:24:07.94
in the song of
Moses and the Lamb.
00:24:07.98\00:24:09.48
A lot of people leave those
verses, also described 144,000.
00:24:09.51\00:24:12.98
So if you're just gonna go
from a biblical perspective,
00:24:13.01\00:24:15.92
the 144,000 in Revelation 7,
00:24:15.95\00:24:18.99
and 144,000 in
Revelation Chapter 14
00:24:19.02\00:24:22.12
are symbolic,
00:24:22.16\00:24:24.26
and the reason we
know this is because
00:24:24.29\00:24:26.53
the 144,000 in
Revelation Chapter 7
00:24:26.56\00:24:29.90
takes place in the context
00:24:29.93\00:24:31.27
of the four
winds being held back,
00:24:31.30\00:24:33.27
and the servants of God been
sealed with the seal of God,
00:24:33.30\00:24:36.81
in preparatory to
those winds being let loose,
00:24:36.84\00:24:39.71
and we know that's
the close of probation,
00:24:39.74\00:24:41.08
that's the end of time.
00:24:41.11\00:24:42.44
So the seal of God
comes upon all of God's people
00:24:42.48\00:24:46.31
before probation closes.
00:24:46.35\00:24:48.52
And a lot of people think,
"Well, you know, that's us,
00:24:48.55\00:24:51.12
we're going to be sealed."
00:24:51.15\00:24:52.49
But another question
that was in here, it says,
00:24:52.52\00:24:54.42
the question that was asked was,
00:24:54.46\00:24:55.79
when does the
judgment start for the living?
00:24:55.82\00:24:58.06
And I'm going to
answer that question
00:24:58.09\00:24:59.43
as I'm answering this one.
00:24:59.46\00:25:01.06
So this question, it supposes
that the judgment started
00:25:01.10\00:25:04.47
for the dead
first, and that's true.
00:25:04.50\00:25:07.20
Judgment which is
synonymous with the sealing
00:25:07.24\00:25:10.21
began with the dead.
00:25:10.24\00:25:12.07
You cannot be
sealed until you're judged.
00:25:12.11\00:25:15.61
In Revelation 7,
the 144,000 are sealed.
00:25:15.64\00:25:19.11
So the 144,000
must include the dead
00:25:19.15\00:25:22.32
and the first dead person
that came up in the judgment
00:25:22.35\00:25:25.59
must have been Adam,
00:25:25.62\00:25:26.96
because he was the first one
to believe in the Lamb of God
00:25:26.99\00:25:29.26
who takes away
the sins of the world
00:25:29.29\00:25:30.73
because God set up
the sacrificial system
00:25:30.76\00:25:32.73
right at the very beginning.
00:25:32.76\00:25:34.20
He gave him the promise,
00:25:34.23\00:25:35.56
I'm going to put enmity
between you and the woman.
00:25:35.60\00:25:37.47
This guy's coming that's
going to bruise his head,
00:25:37.50\00:25:40.24
but his heels
going to be bruised.
00:25:40.27\00:25:41.60
That's Jesus.
00:25:41.64\00:25:42.97
Adam saw the Lamb and
he put faith in the Lamb.
00:25:43.00\00:25:45.47
And he comes up in the
judgment and he's sealed.
00:25:45.51\00:25:48.31
And Eve comes up,
and Abel comes up,
00:25:48.34\00:25:49.81
you know what I'm saying.
00:25:49.84\00:25:51.18
And so we go
through the whole judgment.
00:25:51.21\00:25:52.55
is a symbolic number,
00:25:52.58\00:25:54.38
it's not literal.
00:25:54.42\00:25:55.78
And a lot of times
Satan wants us to argue
00:25:55.82\00:25:58.79
about stuff that's important
for a different reason.
00:25:58.82\00:26:01.82
We want to argue
about the number, okay?
00:26:01.86\00:26:04.33
Let's not argue
about the number.
00:26:04.36\00:26:06.59
Let's look at what's in
there that's so important.
00:26:06.63\00:26:08.96
And what's in that Revelation
7 that's so significant
00:26:09.00\00:26:12.30
is this picture of the 12 tribes
00:26:12.33\00:26:14.44
because when you look
at Revelation Chapter 7,
00:26:14.47\00:26:16.30
the 12 tribes,
they are different
00:26:16.34\00:26:17.71
than the original tribes.
00:26:17.74\00:26:19.47
In Revelation 7,
there's a tribe there
00:26:19.51\00:26:22.04
that wasn't in the original 12.
00:26:22.08\00:26:24.05
When you go back to Genesis 49,
00:26:24.08\00:26:26.31
Jacob is describing
all of his children,
00:26:26.35\00:26:28.88
all the 12 tribes
and he gets to verse 16
00:26:28.92\00:26:31.22
and he describes Dan.
00:26:31.25\00:26:32.59
He says, "Dan!"
00:26:32.62\00:26:33.96
Dan is like a
serpent in the way,
00:26:33.99\00:26:35.42
like an adder in the path
that bites the horse heel,
00:26:35.46\00:26:37.76
so the rider falls backwards.
00:26:37.79\00:26:39.19
He's a serpent, he's
a backbiter, you know,
00:26:39.23\00:26:41.60
a serpent is the
accuser, Revelation 12:10,
00:26:41.63\00:26:43.87
he accuses before
God day and night.
00:26:43.90\00:26:45.90
In fact, the word
Dan means to judge.
00:26:45.93\00:26:48.80
The word Daniel
means "God is judge."
00:26:48.84\00:26:52.14
Interesting.
00:26:52.17\00:26:53.51
Let's make that
transition, right?
00:26:53.54\00:26:54.88
Yeah. Daniel, God is judge.
00:26:54.91\00:26:56.48
So Dan is not in Revelation
7, because the message that God
00:26:56.51\00:27:00.52
is communicating
there is not about a number.
00:27:00.55\00:27:02.92
The message God's communicating
there is about character.
00:27:02.95\00:27:07.56
So Dan's gone because God
isn't going to seal people
00:27:07.59\00:27:09.76
who are critical, judgmental,
backbiting, serpent like.
00:27:09.79\00:27:12.66
So, who replaces Dan? Manasseh.
00:27:12.69\00:27:16.36
Now, Manasseh was
the first son of Joseph.
00:27:16.40\00:27:20.67
And the reason why
Joseph called Manasseh
00:27:20.70\00:27:23.10
was because Joseph was
mistreated by his brothers.
00:27:23.14\00:27:25.37
You ever been mistreated
00:27:25.41\00:27:26.74
by your church
brothers, sisters?
00:27:26.78\00:27:28.28
Okay.
00:27:28.31\00:27:29.64
And he went
through a terrible time
00:27:29.68\00:27:31.01
but in the end, he's
like, "God overruled this."
00:27:31.05\00:27:36.38
Communication with God,
Lord, Lord, God overruled this.
00:27:36.42\00:27:39.32
And he has the
son in Manasseh...
00:27:39.35\00:27:40.82
He has the son,
he calls him Manasseh
00:27:40.86\00:27:42.19
because
Manasseh means to forget.
00:27:42.22\00:27:45.39
God has caused me to forget,
I'm going to call Manasseh
00:27:45.43\00:27:47.60
because God's
caused me to forget.
00:27:47.63\00:27:49.26
And the word forget
in the New Testament
00:27:49.30\00:27:51.90
is this root word for forgive.
00:27:51.93\00:27:54.80
God has caused me
to forget or forgive
00:27:54.84\00:27:56.81
everything my
brothers did to me.
00:27:56.84\00:28:00.18
And when they came, he says,
00:28:00.21\00:28:01.54
"Hey, don't,
don't be afraid of me.
00:28:01.58\00:28:03.45
God overruled.
God brought me here."
00:28:03.48\00:28:06.75
What do you mean
God brought you here?
00:28:06.78\00:28:08.12
We would want...
No, God brought me here.
00:28:08.15\00:28:10.49
See so as
Christians, as believers,
00:28:10.52\00:28:12.35
we got to start
thinking, wait a minute,
00:28:12.39\00:28:13.89
what's God
doing it through this?
00:28:13.92\00:28:15.46
How is God going
to overrule this?
00:28:15.49\00:28:17.23
God, I'm going to
give You all this.
00:28:17.26\00:28:18.66
How are You going
to work through this?
00:28:18.69\00:28:20.03
David's praying that prayer.
Abraham's praying that prayer.
00:28:20.06\00:28:21.76
Moses is praying that prayer.
00:28:21.80\00:28:23.67
Right? Yeah. Yeah.
00:28:23.70\00:28:25.03
That's the power of prayer.
00:28:25.07\00:28:26.40
And so when you look at
the 144,000 in Revelation 7,
00:28:26.43\00:28:29.57
you've got to see that
picture, its character.
00:28:29.60\00:28:32.31
Who's going to be sealed?
00:28:32.34\00:28:33.68
You know, it's
inclusive of all of God's people
00:28:33.71\00:28:36.78
from Genesis on,
because all of God's people
00:28:36.81\00:28:39.48
have to be
sealed from 1844 onward,
00:28:39.51\00:28:41.42
now I'm getting into theology,
00:28:41.45\00:28:42.78
but let me move
to Revelation 14.
00:28:42.82\00:28:45.09
The mistake we make
in Revelation Chapter 14
00:28:45.12\00:28:47.46
with 144,000 is we put
them in the end time prophecy,
00:28:47.49\00:28:51.16
because Revelation 13
00:28:51.19\00:28:52.53
is talking about
the mark of the beast.
00:28:52.56\00:28:54.00
Right?
00:28:54.03\00:28:55.36
And so right away,
we say, Revelation 14,
00:28:55.40\00:28:57.07
it's in Revelation 13,
00:28:57.10\00:28:58.50
so it must be
the end time people.
00:28:58.53\00:28:59.93
And then it's the three
angels' messages in six through,
00:28:59.97\00:29:02.40
you know, so it must
be the end time people.
00:29:02.44\00:29:03.91
But when you start
Revelation Chapter 14,
00:29:03.94\00:29:07.01
it says that John looked
and he saw a group of people...
00:29:07.04\00:29:11.01
Yeah.
00:29:11.05\00:29:12.38
And when you look at
where they're standing,
00:29:12.41\00:29:13.78
this is the
most important thing,
00:29:13.82\00:29:15.15
where they're standing.
00:29:15.18\00:29:17.19
You said
Revelation... I've got my...
00:29:17.22\00:29:19.05
14... 14...
00:29:19.09\00:29:20.42
I've got my
removable Bible here,
00:29:20.46\00:29:23.79
so I don't know if
you guys have this.
00:29:23.83\00:29:25.16
Removable Bible?
00:29:25.19\00:29:26.76
They have these removable pages,
00:29:26.80\00:29:28.30
you take them
out and put them in.
00:29:28.33\00:29:30.30
If you read verse
1, Revelation 14:1,
00:29:30.33\00:29:35.14
it says, "And I looked, and lo,
00:29:35.17\00:29:38.87
a lamb stood on Mount
Zion, and with him 144,000."
00:29:38.91\00:29:45.45
Okay?
00:29:45.48\00:29:46.82
Mount Zion, according
to Hebrews Chapter 12,
00:29:46.85\00:29:50.39
Mount Zion is the
heavenly Jerusalem.
00:29:50.42\00:29:53.69
It's the church
of the firstborn,
00:29:53.72\00:29:55.99
where names are
registered in heaven.
00:29:56.02\00:29:57.86
This picture that
John has seen here
00:29:57.89\00:29:59.89
is a picture of
the redeemed in heaven,
00:29:59.93\00:30:02.86
after all this is over.
00:30:02.90\00:30:04.37
And the reason why God
has given us that picture
00:30:04.40\00:30:06.03
is because God
wants to encourage us,
00:30:06.07\00:30:07.70
I know, I just told you
about the mark of the beast,
00:30:07.74\00:30:09.57
and I know I said that everyone
small, great, rich, poor,
00:30:09.60\00:30:11.77
free and bond, they're
going to receive the mark.
00:30:11.81\00:30:13.24
But let me show
you that there's going
00:30:13.27\00:30:15.14
to be a people in heaven
00:30:15.18\00:30:16.95
who ain't gonna
receive that mark.
00:30:16.98\00:30:18.55
They're gonna follow
the Lamb wherever He goes,
00:30:18.58\00:30:20.42
see, that's the thing.
00:30:20.45\00:30:21.78
And then the
question would be asked,
00:30:21.82\00:30:23.15
well, how did they get there?
00:30:23.18\00:30:24.52
Then you get to Revelation 14:6,
00:30:24.55\00:30:25.89
and I saw an angel flying
through the midst of heaven,
00:30:25.92\00:30:27.26
they got the everlasting gospel.
00:30:27.29\00:30:28.62
Right.
00:30:28.66\00:30:29.99
So you can't use
Revelation 14:1-5,
00:30:30.03\00:30:31.89
to designate
biblically the 144,000
00:30:31.93\00:30:34.66
with only end time people
because they're in heaven.
00:30:34.70\00:30:37.03
And when you get to
heaven, everyone's there.
00:30:37.07\00:30:38.73
Resurrected and
translated without death.
00:30:38.77\00:30:40.60
They're all there, so
both of these scriptures
00:30:40.64\00:30:44.24
do not give evidence
00:30:44.27\00:30:46.04
for the 144,000
being a symbolic number.
00:30:46.07\00:30:48.54
Now it gets more
significant than that.
00:30:48.58\00:30:50.35
When you go
through the characteristics
00:30:50.38\00:30:51.78
in Revelation 14,
you've got virgins,
00:30:51.81\00:30:54.72
male virgins,
00:30:54.75\00:30:56.75
if you want to get literal,
because if you're going to do
00:30:56.79\00:30:58.85
the numbers, got to be
literal everything else is
00:30:58.89\00:31:00.66
Jewish male virgins, 12 tribes
00:31:00.69\00:31:02.92
that haven't
slept with women, right?
00:31:02.96\00:31:04.59
They haven't lost in the mire.
00:31:04.63\00:31:05.96
So you've got now 144,000
literal Jewish male virgins,
00:31:05.99\00:31:09.56
and a lot of our
evangelical friends
00:31:09.60\00:31:11.60
will go with
that interpretation.
00:31:11.63\00:31:13.20
And it's
consistent, but we don't.
00:31:13.23\00:31:15.57
We know the virgins said
Corinthians 11:2-4 represents
00:31:15.60\00:31:20.38
being committed
100% to the gospel.
00:31:20.41\00:31:23.88
Not defiled with women
means, we're not defiled
00:31:23.91\00:31:26.08
with false
doctrine of other churches,
00:31:26.11\00:31:27.82
we're committed to Christ, okay.
00:31:27.85\00:31:30.02
We know first fruits for example
00:31:30.05\00:31:31.39
means born again, James 1:18,
00:31:31.42\00:31:33.02
they're first
fruits, they're born again,
00:31:33.05\00:31:34.72
to be a first
fruit of his creatures.
00:31:34.76\00:31:36.73
So when we look at
Revelation Chapter 14,
00:31:36.76\00:31:39.56
we see the symbolism there.
00:31:39.59\00:31:41.20
So the number
must be symbolic too,
00:31:41.23\00:31:43.03
especially if
it's in Mount Zion.
00:31:43.06\00:31:44.93
So, yes, it's a symbolic number.
00:31:44.97\00:31:46.30
Now, some of viewers may
not be convinced by this little,
00:31:46.33\00:31:48.90
you know, two or three minute...
00:31:48.94\00:31:50.64
If they're not, I've
got a book, I've written.
00:31:50.67\00:31:53.01
And they can get a
hold of me at Light Bearers,
00:31:53.04\00:31:55.78
and the information will
be up, and I'll send them
00:31:55.81\00:31:58.21
an electronic copy of the book,
00:31:58.25\00:32:00.15
or they can order a
hard copy of the book.
00:32:00.18\00:32:02.02
It's an exhaustive study on
the 144,000, all the verses,
00:32:02.05\00:32:05.92
every statement
I could find on it,
00:32:05.95\00:32:07.29
and they can read it
through and study it,
00:32:07.32\00:32:08.82
and maybe that'll help.
00:32:08.86\00:32:10.19
That's great. That's great.
00:32:10.23\00:32:12.46
You got another question?
00:32:12.49\00:32:15.36
I've got a
question if you don't.
00:32:15.40\00:32:16.77
You go ahead with yours.
00:32:16.80\00:32:18.13
Okay, so this question is long,
but the basis of this question
00:32:18.17\00:32:21.84
is talking about how
God allows evil and people
00:32:21.87\00:32:28.41
who are alive
today, that basically,
00:32:28.44\00:32:33.62
you know, it seems like,
00:32:33.65\00:32:34.98
why is God allowing all of this?
00:32:35.02\00:32:36.65
And then He goes
on to say actually,
00:32:36.69\00:32:39.99
I think it's a lady
that's asked this question.
00:32:40.02\00:32:41.82
It goes on to say, some
people, some teacher say
00:32:41.86\00:32:44.69
that God picks people,
you know, before they're born,
00:32:44.73\00:32:47.70
so you got all
this evil taking place,
00:32:47.73\00:32:49.43
why is God allowing this if
some people are put on earth
00:32:49.46\00:32:51.60
with no intention
of ever being saved?
00:32:51.63\00:32:54.37
So the idea is...
00:32:54.40\00:32:55.74
Somewhat
predestination? Predestination.
00:32:55.77\00:32:57.11
Okay.
00:32:57.14\00:32:58.47
God has
predestined people to be lost
00:32:58.51\00:32:59.84
before they're even born,
00:32:59.87\00:33:01.21
they come and
they do all this evil,
00:33:01.24\00:33:02.58
why does God allow this evil
00:33:02.61\00:33:03.95
if those people
can't even be saved?
00:33:03.98\00:33:05.31
And so I would say,
00:33:05.35\00:33:06.68
this is such a good
question by the way.
00:33:06.72\00:33:08.22
This is such a good question.
00:33:08.25\00:33:09.58
I remember and I was
driving out here to 3ABN,
00:33:09.62\00:33:13.05
and I was looking
00:33:13.09\00:33:14.42
for a Christian
station on the radio.
00:33:14.46\00:33:15.79
It's not hard,
00:33:15.82\00:33:17.16
you guys are in the
Bible Belt, you know,
00:33:17.19\00:33:19.03
and so it's not like Christian
stations like which one.
00:33:19.06\00:33:22.20
And I was
listening to the station
00:33:22.23\00:33:23.57
these two guys...
00:33:23.60\00:33:24.93
And that was before you came
within the range of 3ABN Radio.
00:33:24.97\00:33:26.94
Oh, yeah. That's
right. Thank you.
00:33:26.97\00:33:30.44
I was trying to
help brother out here.
00:33:30.47\00:33:32.37
I was, might be in St. Louis,
so I don't know where I was,
00:33:32.41\00:33:35.44
way out of range.
00:33:35.48\00:33:36.81
Okay. All right. All right.
00:33:36.85\00:33:38.18
And I was listening these
guys, and they were talking,
00:33:38.21\00:33:41.68
actually might even
been for the most 3ABN Radio.
00:33:41.72\00:33:43.59
I don't know
wasn't quite a while ago,
00:33:43.62\00:33:45.05
I've been coming
here a long time like,
00:33:45.09\00:33:46.42
since I was a kid I've
been coming to 3ABN, you know...
00:33:46.45\00:33:50.46
1990 something
when we first came.
00:33:50.49\00:33:53.46
I know you guys started in
84', that's when we started too.
00:33:53.50\00:33:56.33
So these two guys
were talking about the idea
00:33:56.36\00:33:58.67
that God predestined
certain people will be saved
00:33:58.70\00:34:00.44
and certain people will be lost.
00:34:00.47\00:34:02.04
And they coupled
this with the idea
00:34:02.07\00:34:05.64
that the people that are lost
00:34:05.67\00:34:07.41
are going to burn
in hell for eternity,
00:34:07.44\00:34:11.05
never ending flames
and I could, I mean,
00:34:11.08\00:34:14.55
I literally started
crying when I thought
00:34:14.58\00:34:16.35
about that picture of God.
00:34:16.38\00:34:17.72
That God creates people
with no hope of salvation
00:34:17.75\00:34:20.46
to burn them for all eternity.
00:34:20.49\00:34:22.22
What a misrepresentation
of the character.
00:34:22.26\00:34:23.76
And it's not
biblical by the way,
00:34:23.79\00:34:25.13
that's not biblical.
00:34:25.16\00:34:26.49
Predestination is
biblical, but good news.
00:34:26.53\00:34:30.67
God has predestined everyone
to be saved in Jesus Christ,
00:34:30.70\00:34:34.44
everyone.
00:34:34.47\00:34:35.80
Romans Chapter 28, excuse
me, Romans 8:28 and onward,
00:34:35.84\00:34:39.84
clear on this.
00:34:39.87\00:34:41.21
For whom He
predestined them He called.
00:34:41.24\00:34:43.48
When He called
them He justified,
00:34:43.51\00:34:44.98
whom He justified
them, He sanctified him,
00:34:45.01\00:34:46.68
or glorified him, and glorify.
00:34:46.72\00:34:48.68
So when you look
through that list,
00:34:48.72\00:34:50.49
and you apply that
to through the Bible,
00:34:50.52\00:34:53.52
you find that Jesus says,
00:34:53.56\00:34:55.32
"If I be lifted
will draw all unto Me."
00:34:55.36\00:34:58.59
John 12:32.
00:34:58.63\00:34:59.96
But you're not saying
that all will be saved.
00:35:00.00\00:35:01.80
No, I'm saying
all will be drawn.
00:35:01.83\00:35:03.37
That is to make sure that...
I'm saying all will be drawn.
00:35:03.40\00:35:05.17
Okay, 'cause we
want to make sure
00:35:05.20\00:35:06.87
that the viewers understand
00:35:06.90\00:35:08.34
that's not what
you're not saying.
00:35:08.37\00:35:09.70
God has predestined everyone
to be saved, but He's going to,
00:35:09.74\00:35:11.97
He's a gentleman, He's
gonna honor our choice.
00:35:12.01\00:35:14.54
So we've been included.
00:35:14.58\00:35:15.98
See, God hasn't
determined before we're born
00:35:16.01\00:35:18.65
that certain ones
are going to be saved
00:35:18.68\00:35:20.02
and certain ones
are going to be lost.
00:35:20.05\00:35:21.38
Okay, God is all knowing.
00:35:21.42\00:35:22.82
He knows who's going to respond,
00:35:22.85\00:35:24.19
but He's determined
everyone will be saved,
00:35:24.22\00:35:25.59
but He's not going to step
in and force us to be saved,
00:35:25.62\00:35:29.39
but He's made provision
for every single person.
00:35:29.42\00:35:31.89
Yes, so He has predestined us
00:35:31.93\00:35:34.86
based on His
foreknowledge of our choices?
00:35:34.90\00:35:38.00
Well, I would say it
this way, I would say,
00:35:38.03\00:35:39.57
He's predestined us
and He knows our choices,
00:35:39.60\00:35:42.80
but we still have
freedom to make those choices.
00:35:42.84\00:35:45.14
We still have freedom.
00:35:45.17\00:35:46.51
And we may even
choose differently
00:35:46.54\00:35:48.94
in certain situations,
00:35:48.98\00:35:50.31
and I give you
an example of this.
00:35:50.35\00:35:51.78
Do you remember when God said,
00:35:51.81\00:35:53.25
"Hey Jonah, go down in Nineveh."
00:35:53.28\00:35:56.25
Forty days they're done,
so Jonah goes down in Nineveh,
00:35:56.28\00:36:00.16
40 days, you're done.
00:36:00.19\00:36:02.46
And Nineveh repents.
00:36:02.49\00:36:05.36
Did God know they
could repent? Yeah.
00:36:05.39\00:36:07.20
Of course, He did, and so,
00:36:07.23\00:36:10.17
but Jonah didn't
give that option,
00:36:10.20\00:36:12.07
God didn't give him the
message to give that option.
00:36:12.10\00:36:13.54
He says 40 days and you're done.
00:36:13.57\00:36:15.27
So they repent and God's like,
00:36:15.30\00:36:18.31
"I'm not gonna destroy
them, they repented." What?
00:36:18.34\00:36:21.64
And what does Jonah do?
00:36:21.68\00:36:23.01
He caught some attitude,
he caught some attitude,
00:36:23.04\00:36:24.78
he's like what?
00:36:24.81\00:36:26.21
What?
00:36:26.25\00:36:27.58
I knew it, I knew it, like
"Come on prophecy will fail,
00:36:27.62\00:36:30.52
tongues will cease,
but love doesn't fail."
00:36:30.55\00:36:32.59
Right, 1 Corinthians 13,
so we still have choices,
00:36:32.62\00:36:37.09
and we may surprise
people like Jonah, you know,
00:36:37.13\00:36:42.60
in some of the choices we make.
00:36:42.63\00:36:44.57
And you could look at a
lot of stories in the Bible,
00:36:44.60\00:36:46.10
where you see these
things taking place.
00:36:46.13\00:36:47.84
There's a little bit
of wiggle room there.
00:36:47.87\00:36:49.24
And so we'll say,
"Well, why didn't God?"
00:36:49.27\00:36:51.14
God knew that, God
knows every option,
00:36:51.17\00:36:52.77
God knows every
option, every choice,
00:36:52.81\00:36:54.28
everything
that's going to happen.
00:36:54.31\00:36:55.64
God knows it all. So He...
00:36:55.68\00:36:57.68
Here's the most important point,
00:36:57.71\00:36:59.05
Isaiah 53 "All we like
sheep have gone astray,
00:36:59.08\00:37:02.58
we've turned,
everyone their own way,
00:37:02.62\00:37:03.95
and God has laid upon Him
00:37:03.99\00:37:05.32
Jesus Christ
the iniquity of us."
00:37:05.35\00:37:07.62
Okay, so everyone has
been provided for in Jesus.
00:37:07.66\00:37:13.60
And when I tell people,
you know, oh, I've done this,
00:37:13.63\00:37:15.40
I've done that, I'm too wicked,
there's no way I can be saved.
00:37:15.43\00:37:18.70
Then there's no
chance for me, right?
00:37:18.73\00:37:21.37
All have sinned and come
short of the glory of God.
00:37:21.40\00:37:22.74
The wages of sin is death.
00:37:22.77\00:37:24.14
The gift of God is eternal life
through Jesus Christ, our Lord.
00:37:24.17\00:37:26.78
So let's not cop out on God
00:37:26.81\00:37:30.75
with the idea
that I'm so wicked,
00:37:30.78\00:37:32.15
I must have been
predestined to be lost.
00:37:32.18\00:37:34.02
That's a cop out.
00:37:34.05\00:37:35.38
No, God has a place
for every single person.
00:37:35.42\00:37:37.72
God is long suffering toward us,
00:37:37.75\00:37:39.09
not willing that
any should be lost,
00:37:39.12\00:37:40.99
but all should repent.
00:37:41.02\00:37:42.36
Now, I have a study, we've just
taken a few minutes on that,
00:37:42.39\00:37:44.49
I've got to study
on predestination too,
00:37:44.53\00:37:46.56
and would love to share that
with anyone whoever's asked,
00:37:46.59\00:37:49.53
you know, the
question was asked here
00:37:49.56\00:37:50.90
by this lady and anyone else.
00:37:50.93\00:37:54.77
How can people reach you to?
00:37:54.80\00:37:56.71
Through like various,
00:37:56.74\00:37:58.27
you got the information
that's gonna come up.
00:37:58.31\00:37:59.64
And we have the website.
00:37:59.67\00:38:01.01
Yep. Your website?
00:38:01.04\00:38:02.38
Website, James@lightbearers.org
is my email,
00:38:02.41\00:38:05.48
or the number
that you can call in
00:38:05.51\00:38:06.98
and ask request
the studies and all,
00:38:07.02\00:38:08.82
and I can email them to you
00:38:08.85\00:38:10.19
or give you hard copies
of the books whatever we got.
00:38:10.22\00:38:13.15
So Jay, let our viewers know
00:38:13.19\00:38:14.99
how they can reach Pastor James.
00:38:15.02\00:38:17.16
Well, you can
write Pastor Rafferty
00:38:17.19\00:38:18.79
at Light Bearers Ministry,
it's 37457 Jasper Lowell road,
00:38:18.83\00:38:24.97
and that's
Jasper, Oregon, 97438,
00:38:25.00\00:38:28.70
or you can give them
a call at 541-988-3333
00:38:28.74\00:38:35.11
or you can check out his
website at LightBearers.org
00:38:35.14\00:38:40.85
and you can even email him
at James@ lightbearers.org.
00:38:40.88\00:38:45.65
There's multiple ways
to get in touch with you.
00:38:45.69\00:38:47.82
That's right. Just
laid it all out there.
00:38:47.86\00:38:50.29
That's great. That's great.
00:38:50.33\00:38:51.79
We have another question?
00:38:51.83\00:38:53.16
Yes, and this question
says, "What should we pray
00:38:53.19\00:38:56.36
when praying for the
leaders of our government?"
00:38:56.40\00:38:59.43
I'm so glad that
they asked that question,
00:38:59.47\00:39:01.04
because that question
takes us to some verses
00:39:01.07\00:39:03.41
that I really wanted to cover
before we're finished here,
00:39:03.44\00:39:05.97
and those verses
are in 1 Timothy...
00:39:06.01\00:39:09.01
Well, actually 1
Timothy Chapter 2,
00:39:09.04\00:39:10.98
but I'd like us to look at
the context of these verses
00:39:11.01\00:39:13.65
because there's a
beautiful context to this.
00:39:13.68\00:39:18.02
The question is,
what should we pray for?
00:39:18.05\00:39:20.39
How should we pray?
00:39:20.42\00:39:21.76
What is it that you
know God wants us to pray?
00:39:21.79\00:39:24.16
And so before we
read 1 Timothy Chapter 2,
00:39:24.19\00:39:26.96
I want to just
give you the context
00:39:27.00\00:39:28.33
of 1 Timothy Chapter 1.
00:39:28.36\00:39:29.70
So let me give the
context and then, Jay,
00:39:29.73\00:39:31.27
if you could start
reading in Chapter 2,
00:39:31.30\00:39:32.83
when I'm done with this context.
00:39:32.87\00:39:35.04
Paul in Chapter 1,
00:39:35.07\00:39:37.27
he's writing to this
young man named Timothy.
00:39:37.31\00:39:39.11
It's toward the
end of his ministry.
00:39:39.14\00:39:42.64
Paul has actually
been brought before Nero,
00:39:42.68\00:39:45.68
in his ministry he was
brought before Nero twice.
00:39:45.71\00:39:49.85
And Nero was like
the president of Rome.
00:39:49.88\00:39:51.92
I mean, he was the
king, he was the emperor.
00:39:51.95\00:39:54.96
And the second time he
was brought before Nero,
00:39:54.99\00:39:56.66
he was executed.
00:39:56.69\00:39:58.43
He was a Roman
soldier, I mean, a Roman citizen
00:39:58.46\00:40:00.20
so he was executed,
his head was chopped off.
00:40:00.23\00:40:03.00
Peter was crucified
'cause he wasn't Roman and so,
00:40:03.03\00:40:06.00
but Romans couldn't be crucified
00:40:06.03\00:40:07.37
so he was executed...
00:40:07.40\00:40:08.74
So just to get the
context of where Paul is at?
00:40:08.77\00:40:11.71
What he's facing?
What he's gonna go through?
00:40:11.74\00:40:14.11
And then you read
these words. Okay.
00:40:14.14\00:40:16.85
So his first point is,
in verse 5 of Chapter 1 is,
00:40:16.88\00:40:19.95
"The end or the
goal of the commandment
00:40:19.98\00:40:23.69
is charity, love," you
know, Jesus told us that
00:40:23.72\00:40:26.52
in Mathew 22:38-40, He says,
00:40:26.55\00:40:28.76
you know, the great
first law is, "Love your God
00:40:28.79\00:40:31.86
with all your
heart, mind and soul."
00:40:31.89\00:40:33.23
The second is like it,
00:40:33.26\00:40:34.60
"Love your
neighbor as yourself."
00:40:34.63\00:40:35.96
And Paul talks about
this in Romans Chapter 13,
00:40:36.00\00:40:39.77
he talks about the duty we owe
to the government and he says,
00:40:39.80\00:40:44.04
we should pay
taxes due, taxes and due,
00:40:44.07\00:40:46.37
and we should obey the laws
'cause God sets up governments.
00:40:46.41\00:40:49.78
And governments
aren't for people
00:40:49.81\00:40:51.55
who are law abiding citizens,
00:40:51.58\00:40:52.91
governments are
for law breakers,
00:40:52.95\00:40:55.78
they're for criminals.
00:40:55.82\00:40:57.19
And if we are in
harmony with the government,
00:40:57.22\00:40:59.49
then we don't have anything
to fear from the government,
00:40:59.52\00:41:01.76
and we should
support the government
00:41:01.79\00:41:04.26
in everything that has
to do with the civil laws,
00:41:04.29\00:41:09.43
and then he starts
quoting in Romans 13,
00:41:09.46\00:41:11.47
he starts quoting Bible verses,
from the Ten Commandments.
00:41:11.50\00:41:16.30
And what's interesting is this.
00:41:16.34\00:41:19.27
He only quotes the second half
or the last six commandments.
00:41:19.31\00:41:25.21
He never quotes
00:41:25.25\00:41:26.58
any of the first
four commandments.
00:41:26.61\00:41:27.95
And then when he's
done quoting a few of them,
00:41:27.98\00:41:30.39
he doesn't quote
all of them, he says,
00:41:30.42\00:41:31.75
"And if there's
any other commandment,
00:41:31.79\00:41:33.22
it is briefly
comprehended in this
00:41:33.25\00:41:35.32
'Thou shalt love thy
neighbor as thyself.'"
00:41:35.36\00:41:38.13
Now the odd thing about that,
00:41:38.16\00:41:39.69
that's so
instructive for us today is,
00:41:39.73\00:41:42.80
there are other commandments
but they're not comprehended
00:41:42.83\00:41:45.03
in loving your
neighbors as yourself.
00:41:45.07\00:41:46.97
The other commandments
that he doesn't quote
00:41:47.00\00:41:48.34
from the first
four are comprehended
00:41:48.37\00:41:50.04
in loving God with all
your heart, mind and soul.
00:41:50.07\00:41:51.87
Paul is talking about
relating to civil government,
00:41:51.91\00:41:56.75
and he says when it
comes to civil government,
00:41:56.78\00:41:58.85
that has nothing to do with
the first four commandments.
00:41:58.88\00:42:01.38
When it comes to
obeying civil government,
00:42:01.42\00:42:03.02
it has nothing to do
00:42:03.05\00:42:04.39
with how you keep the
first four commandments.
00:42:04.42\00:42:06.19
He's separating
church and state right now
00:42:06.22\00:42:08.62
in Romans 13.
00:42:08.66\00:42:09.99
Okay.
00:42:10.03\00:42:11.36
He's saying, if there is any law
00:42:11.39\00:42:12.73
that has to do with
the last six commandments,
00:42:12.76\00:42:14.10
"Thou shall not
kill" for example,
00:42:14.13\00:42:15.86
civil governments support that
00:42:15.90\00:42:18.07
and civil governments by the way
00:42:18.10\00:42:19.80
are not breaching liberty
of conscience and freedom
00:42:19.83\00:42:23.91
by enforcing laws,
00:42:23.94\00:42:25.27
they're in harmony with
the last six commandments.
00:42:25.31\00:42:27.51
There's no freedom to break
those last six commandments
00:42:27.54\00:42:30.15
that we should
support in civil government
00:42:30.18\00:42:32.18
and think that we're giving
00:42:32.21\00:42:33.55
freedom of
conscience to do that.
00:42:33.58\00:42:34.92
Right. No, no, no.
00:42:34.95\00:42:36.28
But the first four commandments,
00:42:36.32\00:42:37.65
they're excluded from
that, so any civil law
00:42:37.69\00:42:40.49
that steps into those
first four Commandments,
00:42:40.52\00:42:43.19
i.e., the
Sabbath, forcing worship,
00:42:43.22\00:42:46.70
we are not
obligated to obey those
00:42:46.73\00:42:48.10
according to Romans Chapter 13.
00:42:48.13\00:42:50.03
And that to me... That
whole thing is masterful.
00:42:50.07\00:42:54.90
And Paul just really
did a good job there.
00:42:54.94\00:42:57.34
That was just amazing
what he did right there.
00:42:57.37\00:42:59.87
And so in 1 Timothy
now, that's the context,
00:42:59.91\00:43:02.61
he's coming towards
the end of his life.
00:43:02.64\00:43:04.15
He's saying we need to go...
00:43:04.18\00:43:05.51
Love is our goal, love is
our goal, love is our goal.
00:43:05.55\00:43:07.35
And then he says
this, he talks about
00:43:07.38\00:43:08.88
how the law is made,
00:43:08.92\00:43:10.25
again in 1
Timothy, he talks about...
00:43:10.29\00:43:12.32
We know that
verse 8 the law is made,
00:43:12.35\00:43:14.72
"We know the law is good
if a man uses it lawfully."
00:43:14.76\00:43:18.16
For verse 9, "Knowing
this that the law is not made
00:43:18.19\00:43:20.30
for a righteous
man but for a lawless."
00:43:20.33\00:43:22.03
For disobedient,
for law breakers,
00:43:22.06\00:43:23.93
for ungodly etc, etc.
00:43:23.97\00:43:25.43
So same points he's making.
00:43:25.47\00:43:27.07
Then he goes
down and he says this,
00:43:27.10\00:43:29.87
"This is a
faithful saying," verse 15,
00:43:29.90\00:43:32.37
"And worthy of all
acceptation that Christ Jesus
00:43:32.41\00:43:34.64
came to the
world to save sinners,
00:43:34.68\00:43:36.01
of whom I am chief."
00:43:36.04\00:43:38.81
Why is he chief? Why
does he say, I'm the chief.
00:43:38.85\00:43:41.95
Because when
Paul got on the scene,
00:43:41.98\00:43:43.79
he was a religious zealot
00:43:43.82\00:43:45.85
that was
violating the principles
00:43:45.89\00:43:47.39
that he talked
about in Romans 13.
00:43:47.42\00:43:49.26
He was using the church
to persecute Christians,
00:43:49.29\00:43:53.16
who weren't worshiping
God according to the way
00:43:53.19\00:43:55.46
he thought God
should be worshiped.
00:43:55.50\00:43:56.83
He was
persecuting them to death.
00:43:56.87\00:43:59.60
And God through
Christ got his attention
00:43:59.63\00:44:02.80
on the road to
Damascus, came to him,
00:44:02.84\00:44:04.81
and this light
almost blinded him, right?
00:44:04.84\00:44:07.31
And said, "Paul, why
you're persecuting Me?"
00:44:07.34\00:44:09.84
How am I persecuting you?
00:44:09.88\00:44:11.21
"You're persecuting My
people, you're persecuting Me."
00:44:11.25\00:44:13.88
And so Paul was like, wow,
00:44:13.92\00:44:15.25
that's what he
learned his lesson
00:44:15.28\00:44:16.62
of church-state
separation, right?
00:44:16.65\00:44:18.15
And that's what he
means, when he says
00:44:18.19\00:44:19.52
"I'm the chief of
sinners 'cause here I am,
00:44:19.55\00:44:20.89
killing Christians
under the guise of religion."
00:44:20.92\00:44:24.79
Talk about Revelation 13,
00:44:24.83\00:44:26.93
and that whole
controversy right there.
00:44:26.96\00:44:28.66
Killing Christians
under the guise of religion.
00:44:28.70\00:44:31.27
And then he goes on
to say, "Howbeit for this
00:44:31.30\00:44:33.20
cause I obtained
mercy," verse 16,
00:44:33.23\00:44:35.47
"that in me first Jesus Christ
00:44:35.50\00:44:37.17
might shew forth
all longsuffering,
00:44:37.21\00:44:38.74
for a pattern to
them who should hereafter
00:44:38.77\00:44:40.31
believe on him to
everlasting life."
00:44:40.34\00:44:41.68
'Cause I did it ignorantly.
00:44:41.71\00:44:43.48
I didn't know,
but when he knew...
00:44:43.51\00:44:45.51
When the mark of
the beast issue comes up
00:44:45.55\00:44:47.02
and when people realize
seventh day is a Sabbath,
00:44:47.05\00:44:49.55
can't enforce another
day by law, don't do that.
00:44:49.58\00:44:53.79
People are ignorant of it,
they're gonna be enlightened
00:44:53.82\00:44:55.62
and then there's no excuse.
00:44:55.66\00:44:57.13
That's when the mark of
the beast becomes enforced.
00:44:57.16\00:44:58.59
No one's got the mark
of the beast right now.
00:44:58.63\00:44:59.96
Nobody does.
00:45:00.00\00:45:01.33
But when it's enforced,
that when it becomes an issue.
00:45:01.36\00:45:04.23
That's the
context of this, right?
00:45:04.27\00:45:06.10
I'm the chief of
sinners but God saved me.
00:45:06.13\00:45:07.97
So if a religious leader
who is persecuting people
00:45:08.00\00:45:10.87
under the guise of religion,
persecuting God's people
00:45:10.91\00:45:13.27
under the guise of
religion can be saved.
00:45:13.31\00:45:16.28
You see what I'm saying?
00:45:16.31\00:45:17.65
Then you get to 1
Timothy Chapter 2,
00:45:17.68\00:45:19.91
let's just read verses 1 and 2.
00:45:19.95\00:45:21.28
Okay.
00:45:21.32\00:45:22.65
"Therefore I exhort first
of all that supplications,
00:45:22.68\00:45:27.26
prayers, intercessions,
and giving of thanks
00:45:27.29\00:45:30.76
be made for all men..."
00:45:30.79\00:45:32.36
For who? Keep reading.
00:45:32.39\00:45:33.73
"For kings and all
who are in authority,
00:45:33.76\00:45:36.77
that we may lead a
quiet and peaceable life
00:45:36.80\00:45:40.54
in all godliness and reverence."
00:45:40.57\00:45:42.60
There's some
words that aren't here,
00:45:42.64\00:45:45.41
I don't know if
you didn't hear them.
00:45:45.44\00:45:47.21
Criticism's not
there, dungeons not there,
00:45:47.24\00:45:50.98
you know, they're not there.
00:45:51.01\00:45:52.98
And notice what he
says, "I exhort therefore."
00:45:53.01\00:45:55.05
What therefore? What
do you mean therefore?
00:45:55.08\00:45:56.42
Therefore what I just
said, how Christ saved me,
00:45:56.45\00:45:58.82
I'm a religious
leader persecuting...
00:45:58.85\00:46:00.62
Because He saved
me, I'm exhorting you.
00:46:00.66\00:46:03.06
There's gonna be
kings, and presidents,
00:46:03.09\00:46:04.56
and princes and
all these leaders,
00:46:04.59\00:46:06.09
they're gonna be
doing what I was doing.
00:46:06.13\00:46:08.26
But I want you to pray for them.
00:46:08.30\00:46:10.63
And I want you to
intercede for them,
00:46:10.67\00:46:13.34
and I want you to
give thanks for them,
00:46:13.37\00:46:14.84
and I want you to
supplicate for them.
00:46:14.87\00:46:16.20
He just keeps...
00:46:16.24\00:46:17.57
He doesn't say, pray
for them, he says pray,
00:46:17.61\00:46:18.94
supplicate, intercede, commit...
00:46:18.97\00:46:21.44
Uh-uh, uh-uh, you know like,
yeah, get with the Christians,
00:46:21.48\00:46:25.01
what are you
doing or failing to do.
00:46:25.05\00:46:27.65
Yes.
00:46:27.68\00:46:29.02
And so the question
that's been asked is, you know,
00:46:29.05\00:46:32.55
what specifically
should we, you know,
00:46:32.59\00:46:34.62
what is it that we should pray?
00:46:34.66\00:46:35.99
Okay, let's keep reading,
Yvonne, keep reading for us,
00:46:36.02\00:46:37.79
I want you to read verses 3,
00:46:37.83\00:46:39.93
all the way down now to verse 8.
00:46:39.96\00:46:42.56
Okay.
00:46:42.60\00:46:43.93
"For this is good and acceptable
00:46:43.97\00:46:45.53
in the sight of God our Savior,
00:46:45.57\00:46:47.44
who desires all men to be saved
00:46:47.47\00:46:49.74
and to come to the
knowledge of the truth.
00:46:49.77\00:46:51.91
For there is one
God and one Mediator
00:46:51.94\00:46:54.54
between God and men,
00:46:54.58\00:46:55.98
the Man Christ Jesus,
00:46:56.01\00:46:57.85
who gave Himself
a ransom for all,
00:46:57.88\00:47:00.05
to be testified in due
time, for which I was appointed
00:47:00.08\00:47:04.39
a preacher and an apostle,
00:47:04.42\00:47:06.22
I am speaking the truth
in Christ and not lying,
00:47:06.25\00:47:09.12
a teacher of the
Gentiles in faith and truth.
00:47:09.16\00:47:12.49
I desire therefore that
the men pray everywhere,
00:47:12.53\00:47:16.26
lifting up holy hands,
without wrath and doubting."
00:47:16.30\00:47:19.60
Wow!
00:47:19.63\00:47:20.97
Lifting up holy hands
is a biblical injunction
00:47:21.00\00:47:23.04
when we pray.
00:47:23.07\00:47:24.41
Yes.
00:47:24.44\00:47:25.77
I don't know if
you ever watch sports,
00:47:25.81\00:47:27.71
you watch the Olympics,
00:47:27.74\00:47:29.41
you watch, you know,
these different games,
00:47:29.44\00:47:31.41
when people win what do they do?
00:47:31.45\00:47:33.15
Wow! We won, we won.
00:47:33.18\00:47:35.05
Right? Yeah. Yeah.
00:47:35.08\00:47:36.42
So the idea psychologically
is when you're lifting up,
00:47:36.45\00:47:38.55
you're claiming victory.
00:47:38.59\00:47:40.16
You're claiming
the power of heaven.
00:47:40.19\00:47:41.52
You're lifting up to heaven,
you're claiming victory, right?
00:47:41.56\00:47:43.26
Okay.
00:47:43.29\00:47:44.63
But notice, you're lifting
up holy hands without wrath.
00:47:44.66\00:47:49.73
I mean, we got so much
wrath against our government,
00:47:49.76\00:47:51.83
against our leaders,
against that party this,
00:47:51.87\00:47:54.04
and that party that,
and they're doing this,
00:47:54.07\00:47:55.60
and they're doing that,
00:47:55.64\00:47:56.97
we've missed
the whole injunction
00:47:57.01\00:47:58.34
and the question was asked is
00:47:58.37\00:47:59.74
"What should we be praying for?"
00:47:59.77\00:48:01.11
Well, it says here,
00:48:01.14\00:48:03.18
"Who will have
all men to be saved
00:48:03.21\00:48:04.55
and come to the
knowledge of the truth."
00:48:04.58\00:48:05.91
That's what we
needed to pray for.
00:48:05.95\00:48:07.75
We needed to pray
that these presidents
00:48:07.78\00:48:09.12
and princes that they are saved
00:48:09.15\00:48:11.45
and come to the
knowledge of the truth.
00:48:11.49\00:48:12.82
Yes. That's what
we're praying for.
00:48:12.85\00:48:14.19
That's what Paul's
telling us to pray for.
00:48:14.22\00:48:16.29
And the only way
that we can enter
00:48:16.32\00:48:18.49
into this experience, right?
00:48:18.53\00:48:21.06
Is if we let all
the stuff that we have,
00:48:21.10\00:48:23.33
you know, all the
stuff that we have.
00:48:23.37\00:48:24.70
Yes. Man, I don't like that guy.
00:48:24.73\00:48:26.07
I don't like that person.
00:48:26.10\00:48:27.44
I don't like what they're doing.
00:48:27.47\00:48:28.80
I don't like
their policy, blah-blah.
00:48:28.84\00:48:30.17
We gotta all that stuff,
gotta give that all to God.
00:48:30.21\00:48:31.54
We gotta remember,
00:48:31.57\00:48:32.91
God took care of
Sodom and Gomorrah.
00:48:32.94\00:48:35.44
God took care of
Egypt and Pharaoh.
00:48:35.48\00:48:38.18
God took care of Saul, right?
00:48:38.21\00:48:40.68
God took care of
the Jewish leaders
00:48:40.72\00:48:42.98
and the political Roman leaders
in the early church time.
00:48:43.02\00:48:46.45
God made a way. God made a way.
God made a way. God made a way.
00:48:46.49\00:48:49.66
Are we forgetting that?
00:48:49.69\00:48:51.36
Or we're getting
so immersed, you know,
00:48:51.39\00:48:53.03
people tell me sometimes,
they say "I don't watch TV,
00:48:53.06\00:48:56.40
I just watch the news."
00:48:56.43\00:48:57.77
I would rather have you
00:49:02.60\00:49:03.94
watching cartoons than the news.
00:49:03.97\00:49:05.81
'Cause at least you
know cartoons aren't real.
00:49:05.84\00:49:07.94
You don't know
the news isn't real.
00:49:07.98\00:49:09.31
It's not. But
you don't know that.
00:49:09.34\00:49:10.68
Right. You think it is.
00:49:10.71\00:49:12.11
And the news today is not news.
00:49:12.15\00:49:14.25
Just for your information
sake, anyone out there
00:49:14.28\00:49:16.28
that can relate to
this, the news is not news.
00:49:16.32\00:49:18.52
The news is brainwashing.
00:49:18.55\00:49:20.29
The news is telling you
how to think, how to believe.
00:49:20.32\00:49:22.82
How to, you know
what I'm saying...
00:49:22.86\00:49:24.19
Yes it is.
00:49:24.23\00:49:25.56
And depending on
which channel you watch,
00:49:25.59\00:49:27.30
you know, if you
watch one channel...
00:49:27.33\00:49:28.66
And it can go either way.
Oh, that's what you think.
00:49:28.70\00:49:30.50
If you watch this
channel, you're gonna get
00:49:30.53\00:49:33.34
totally left perspective,
if you watch this channel,
00:49:33.37\00:49:36.77
you're gonna get a
totally right perspective.
00:49:36.81\00:49:38.87
It's like, who's
doing objective news.
00:49:38.91\00:49:41.48
Yes. And here's the deal...
00:49:41.51\00:49:42.84
All news has a spin now. Yeah.
00:49:42.88\00:49:44.88
And they do it over, and
over, and over, and over.
00:49:44.91\00:49:49.65
I mean, I can turn on
any of those news channels
00:49:49.68\00:49:52.52
in the morning and
I'll turn on the evening,
00:49:52.55\00:49:54.46
and they're saying the
same thing again and again.
00:49:54.49\00:49:55.92
And you know what that is?
00:49:55.96\00:49:57.29
That's
brainwashing. That's true.
00:49:57.33\00:49:58.66
Yeah, repetition
deepens the impressions.
00:49:58.69\00:50:00.03
Yes. Yes. Yes. So...
00:50:00.06\00:50:01.40
That's what they do in
other, you know, countries
00:50:01.43\00:50:03.77
that were there, you know it is.
00:50:03.80\00:50:05.13
And we think it's freedom. Yeah.
00:50:05.17\00:50:06.50
We think, it's
freedom of the press
00:50:06.53\00:50:07.87
or the media or whatever,
00:50:07.90\00:50:09.24
and we don't realize
that we have digressed
00:50:09.27\00:50:11.67
from what the actual
purpose was to report.
00:50:11.71\00:50:13.71
Yes.
00:50:13.74\00:50:15.08
And then, you know,
in Philippians 4:10,
00:50:15.11\00:50:17.55
"Whatsoever things are true,
whatsoever things are honest,
00:50:17.58\00:50:19.61
whatsoever things are pure,
00:50:19.65\00:50:20.98
whatsoever things
are of good report,
00:50:21.02\00:50:22.35
if there be any virtue,
and if there be any praise,
00:50:22.38\00:50:23.85
think on these things.
00:50:23.89\00:50:25.72
Oh, man.
00:50:25.75\00:50:27.09
So we're missing
our heavenly mandate.
00:50:27.12\00:50:28.86
And this is
happening all around us.
00:50:28.89\00:50:30.83
And it made me
so sick at one point
00:50:30.86\00:50:33.29
because I found myself getting
pulled into it, you know,
00:50:33.33\00:50:35.16
oh, yeah, you know,
00:50:35.20\00:50:36.83
and I'm like,
everyone around them like,
00:50:36.87\00:50:38.30
what in the world are we
talking about this stuff for?
00:50:38.33\00:50:41.20
Let's stop talking about this,
because our biblical mandate
00:50:41.24\00:50:44.64
is to be other
worldliness world,
00:50:44.67\00:50:47.78
to be ambassadors for heaven,
00:50:47.81\00:50:49.61
to be in a different place
in a different space, you know.
00:50:49.64\00:50:51.91
Which doesn't mean that,
we don't have our principles.
00:50:51.95\00:50:56.62
Yes.
00:50:56.65\00:50:57.99
Right? Right.
00:50:58.02\00:50:59.35
Upon which we, you
know, we should be voting.
00:50:59.39\00:51:02.02
We should be
voting for issues, yes.
00:51:02.06\00:51:03.63
For issues and voting
with a principled base.
00:51:03.66\00:51:07.60
And defending the principles
of that lamblike right,
00:51:07.63\00:51:10.83
those lamblike horns,
those freedom of religion,
00:51:10.87\00:51:14.17
civil freedoms, we
need to be based on that
00:51:14.20\00:51:16.74
following the guideline
that Paul gives us in Romans 13,
00:51:16.77\00:51:19.37
separating church and state.
00:51:19.41\00:51:20.74
Yes.
00:51:20.78\00:51:22.11
Dealing with the
issues that have to do
00:51:22.14\00:51:23.48
with loving your
neighbor as yourself.
00:51:23.51\00:51:24.85
Supporting that, paying
our taxes, good citizens,
00:51:24.88\00:51:26.21
leading a quiet
and peaceable life.
00:51:26.25\00:51:27.58
Right? That's
right. That's right.
00:51:27.62\00:51:28.95
Not taking those
political stand, and it's hard,
00:51:28.98\00:51:30.69
it's hard to navigate that
for the Bible tells us how.
00:51:30.72\00:51:34.52
Daniel shows us how to
do it, you know, I mean,
00:51:34.56\00:51:36.96
when you look through all
of these biblical pictures,
00:51:36.99\00:51:40.76
stories, history,
it's a beautiful picture.
00:51:40.80\00:51:44.60
And when you do
get caught up in it,
00:51:44.63\00:51:45.97
you get frustrated.
00:51:46.00\00:51:47.34
Man, just got to give it to God.
00:51:47.37\00:51:48.70
Give it to God. Give
it to God. That's right.
00:51:48.74\00:51:50.07
Let Him have
it. Let Him have it.
00:51:50.11\00:51:51.44
Let Him have it. Yeah.
00:51:51.47\00:51:52.81
Because Joseph and Daniel
00:51:52.84\00:51:54.41
worked in
political circumstances
00:51:54.44\00:51:57.45
that were less
than ideal for them.
00:51:57.48\00:51:59.51
Daniel was with the
astrologers and soothsayers.
00:51:59.55\00:52:02.32
He was over that whole wise
men department of the cabinet.
00:52:02.35\00:52:08.76
He worked with
three different kings,
00:52:08.79\00:52:10.16
three different presidents.
00:52:10.19\00:52:11.53
Three different
presidents he worked with.
00:52:11.56\00:52:12.89
Yes. That's right.
00:52:12.93\00:52:14.26
And still
maintained his integrity
00:52:14.30\00:52:15.63
throughout all of
that, and they couldn't find
00:52:15.66\00:52:17.07
anything wrong
with him, no fault.
00:52:17.10\00:52:19.23
Yeah.
00:52:19.27\00:52:20.60
So they had to
find a way to attack him
00:52:20.64\00:52:21.97
which was through
him worshiping God.
00:52:22.00\00:52:24.64
Right. Yeah, he, they...
00:52:24.67\00:52:26.78
That the thing that
they said about Daniel,
00:52:26.81\00:52:28.18
over and over again was,
00:52:28.21\00:52:30.25
there was the Spirit
of the God was in him.
00:52:30.28\00:52:33.52
The Spirit of the God's in him.
The Spirit of the God's in him.
00:52:33.55\00:52:36.79
He had a different
spirit. That's right.
00:52:36.82\00:52:38.39
Totally different spirit. Yeah.
00:52:38.42\00:52:40.39
And I think part of
that didn't serve him well.
00:52:40.42\00:52:43.19
Under Belshazzar, I think
00:52:43.22\00:52:44.79
Daniel disappeared
from political presence.
00:52:44.83\00:52:47.93
His political
presence disappeared, you know.
00:52:47.96\00:52:50.07
He was older by then. He
was, but also he wasn't...
00:52:50.10\00:52:54.04
He, because he
maintained his integrity,
00:52:54.07\00:52:56.81
and because Belshazzar
didn't appreciate that,
00:52:56.84\00:53:00.11
he went down.
00:53:00.14\00:53:01.48
And then when he was soft, well,
00:53:01.51\00:53:02.84
there was a guy that used
to really be close to your dad
00:53:02.88\00:53:05.25
and used to counsel your dad.
00:53:05.28\00:53:06.61
His name was Daniel,
he had a good spirit.
00:53:06.65\00:53:09.08
Okay, bring him. That's right.
00:53:09.12\00:53:10.45
Let's go ahead and
bring him, you see.
00:53:10.49\00:53:12.79
So when we follow principle,
we may not always be, you know,
00:53:12.82\00:53:16.22
in the limelight, people
may not be listening to us.
00:53:16.26\00:53:18.59
What does it mean to compromise?
00:53:18.63\00:53:19.96
See, what politics do,
does is it changes with the wind
00:53:20.00\00:53:23.93
to please, you know,
the crowd to go along.
00:53:23.97\00:53:26.94
Daniel didn't do
that. That's right. Right.
00:53:26.97\00:53:28.40
And even if he lost
position and influence,
00:53:28.44\00:53:30.17
he didn't do that,
he stayed the course.
00:53:30.21\00:53:32.57
So God is calling
us to stay the course.
00:53:32.61\00:53:34.14
It may not be popular in
our time to stay the course.
00:53:34.18\00:53:37.05
But we've got to let
the Bible be our mandate,
00:53:37.08\00:53:39.71
our instruction book.
00:53:39.75\00:53:41.08
Principle,
principally driven. Yes.
00:53:41.12\00:53:42.85
Principally driven. Right.
00:53:42.88\00:53:44.22
Yep. Love it.
00:53:44.25\00:53:45.72
You know, it just dawned
on me that I want to make sure
00:53:45.75\00:53:48.86
that people don't misunderstand.
00:53:48.89\00:53:50.39
Daniel was not
practicing these things.
00:53:50.43\00:53:53.09
He was just, his job was that
00:53:53.13\00:53:55.56
he oversaw that
whole realm of the kingdom
00:53:55.60\00:53:59.73
but he wasn't.
00:53:59.77\00:54:01.10
He's not an astrologer. No.
00:54:01.14\00:54:02.47
No, no, I didn't get
that for viewer's sake.
00:54:02.50\00:54:03.84
Okay. Good.
00:54:03.87\00:54:05.21
I want to just make
sure that the viewers did
00:54:05.24\00:54:06.57
because that might have been,
00:54:06.61\00:54:07.94
you know, people
write in and say,
00:54:07.98\00:54:09.74
"Is she saying that he
was an astrologer?" No.
00:54:09.78\00:54:11.85
I want to quickly refer
to the Great Controversy,
00:54:11.88\00:54:13.82
because that's the
book we're offering.
00:54:13.85\00:54:15.18
I'm just going to give a
little bit of an overview.
00:54:15.22\00:54:17.05
I just love this reference
in the Great Controversy
00:54:17.09\00:54:20.49
for our viewers that
are asking for free outline,
00:54:20.52\00:54:24.33
the free copy of
that book, page 210,
00:54:24.36\00:54:28.80
and I'm just
going to summarize it,
00:54:28.83\00:54:30.17
not going to read it.
00:54:30.20\00:54:31.53
It's during the Dark Ages
Reformation, Martin Luther.
00:54:31.57\00:54:34.87
Martin Luther is able to
carry forth the Reformation
00:54:34.90\00:54:37.67
because he has powerful kings,
powerful princes, I should say,
00:54:37.71\00:54:41.78
that are supporting him.
00:54:41.81\00:54:43.14
Now, there's kings
and religious leaders
00:54:43.18\00:54:44.51
that are against him,
00:54:44.55\00:54:45.88
but he's got powerful
kings that are supporting,
00:54:45.91\00:54:47.25
princes that are supporting him.
00:54:47.28\00:54:48.65
And at one
point, they say to him,
00:54:48.68\00:54:51.55
"Hey, we're gonna
you some military power,
00:54:51.59\00:54:55.16
like, you're going
to need protection,
00:54:55.19\00:54:56.66
you're going to need us to
step in and fight for you."
00:54:56.69\00:54:59.03
And, you know what he says?
00:54:59.06\00:55:02.00
He says, "Not one sword."
00:55:02.03\00:55:04.70
He says, "God's in control.
00:55:04.73\00:55:07.24
He's overruling, and
prayer is more powerful
00:55:07.27\00:55:10.54
than anything you can give me."
00:55:10.57\00:55:12.27
Wow!
00:55:12.31\00:55:13.64
Prayer's the
most powerful thing.
00:55:13.68\00:55:15.01
He said so, "If you
want to help me, pray,
00:55:15.04\00:55:16.85
and during that time,
in the Great Controversy
00:55:16.88\00:55:18.98
historically we're told,
he would spend three hours
00:55:19.01\00:55:22.68
every morning in prayer,
the hours best suited for study
00:55:22.72\00:55:25.25
he would spend in
prayer during that time, yeah.
00:55:25.29\00:55:28.46
And that's what shook the
world during the Reformation
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was from the power, from
the secret power of prayer
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came the power that shook
the world in the Reformation.
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So just want to throw
that for our listeners
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that Great Controversy
book, prayer's all through it.
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And it tells us
in the end of time,
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that's what we're going to need.
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And let's, let our viewers
know how to get that book again.
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You can call 618- 627-4651,
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or you can email
us at live@3abn.tv.
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And we got some prayer
requests that I was thought
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we might want to pray for them.
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Yeah.
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I think that it would be good
to end the program with prayer.
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We've been talking
about prayer, and the Lord,
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I believe would have us to
in this program with prayer.
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Amen.
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So we just want to
thank our viewers in advance
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for being with us.
00:56:16.67\00:56:18.01
And we are just so grateful
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that you joined us this evening.
00:56:19.41\00:56:21.64
And we ask you to join
us in prayer as we pray now,
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you pray at home as well.
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If you have not asked
the Lord into your lives,
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please ask Him, just invite
Him to be your Lord and Savior.
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Let Him know that
you're sorry for your sins.
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And that you know that He,
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that Jesus Christ
gave His life for you
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and will welcome
you into the kingdom.
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Amen. Amen.
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So let's pray. Yes. All right.
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Dear Heavenly
Father, we thank You
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for the opportunity
to even talk to You,
00:56:51.57\00:56:53.98
to bring our issues to You,
00:56:54.01\00:56:56.54
to present our
praise to You as well.
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The fact that we can
commune with You such a blessing
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and we want to lift up
all of the viewers request
00:57:03.28\00:57:07.16
whatever is on their
hearts, someone's sick, Lord,
00:57:07.19\00:57:10.39
we ask that You
would heal them Father,
00:57:10.43\00:57:13.16
people praying for
their grandchildren.
00:57:13.19\00:57:14.76
Lord, we ask that You
would be with that situation.
00:57:14.80\00:57:17.73
Every situation, we ask
that Your will would be done
00:57:17.77\00:57:21.10
and thank You
for the opportunity
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to talk about this
very important topic,
00:57:22.77\00:57:28.04
prayer and politics.
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Thank You Lord. In
Jesus' name we pray, amen.
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Amen. Amen.
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