I want to spend my life 00:00:01.90\00:00:07.94 Mending broken people 00:00:07.97\00:00:12.84 I want to spend my life 00:00:12.87\00:00:19.11 Removing pain 00:00:19.15\00:00:24.02 Lord, let my words 00:00:24.05\00:00:30.39 Heal a heart that hurts 00:00:30.43\00:00:34.90 I want to spend my life 00:00:34.93\00:00:40.57 Mending broken people 00:00:40.60\00:00:46.07 I want to spend my life 00:00:46.11\00:00:51.61 Mending broken people 00:00:51.65\00:00:57.49 Hello and welcome to another 3ABN Today Family Worship 00:01:08.23\00:01:12.07 and happy Sabbath to you. 00:01:12.10\00:01:13.90 I'm Jason Bradley, and I'm so glad 00:01:13.94\00:01:15.67 that you decided to tune in as we study the Word of God. 00:01:15.70\00:01:19.84 And tonight we're going to be talking 00:01:19.87\00:01:21.51 about eternal love, 00:01:21.54\00:01:23.58 God's eternal love and what that means for us 00:01:23.61\00:01:27.48 and for you specifically as well. 00:01:27.52\00:01:30.99 So, with me, we've got Pastor James Rafferty, 00:01:31.02\00:01:34.89 it's great to have you here. 00:01:34.92\00:01:36.26 Good to be here. It's the first time. 00:01:36.29\00:01:37.86 Yeah, first time for this program. 00:01:37.89\00:01:39.89 Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. 00:01:39.93\00:01:41.26 Yeah, me too. 00:01:41.30\00:01:42.63 Normally, you're hosting Salvation in Symbols and Signs. 00:01:42.66\00:01:44.83 I gotta say this is a little different. 00:01:44.87\00:01:46.37 We're reversing right now. 00:01:46.40\00:01:47.74 We are, but I'm still a student, 00:01:47.77\00:01:49.20 still learning, I'm still learning. 00:01:49.24\00:01:51.24 We've got Pastor John Dinzey with us. 00:01:51.27\00:01:54.21 It's great to have you. It's a blessing to be here. 00:01:54.24\00:01:56.41 Blessing to be here. Yes. 00:01:56.44\00:01:57.81 And we have Dee Hilderbrand, it's great to have you. 00:01:57.85\00:02:00.58 It's a joy to be here among this wonderful company. 00:02:00.62\00:02:03.82 I expect to learn tonight. Amen. 00:02:03.85\00:02:06.22 I do as well. I do as well. 00:02:06.25\00:02:08.46 Pastor Dinzey, would you have 00:02:08.49\00:02:09.82 our opening prayer for us, please? 00:02:09.86\00:02:11.19 Sure. 00:02:11.23\00:02:13.66 Our loving Heavenly Father, we want to thank You, Lord, 00:02:13.70\00:02:17.07 that as this week has ended, 00:02:17.10\00:02:19.50 we can look back and see that You have been with us 00:02:19.53\00:02:22.57 that You have helped us and carried us this far. 00:02:22.60\00:02:25.97 We thank You, Lord, for supplying our needs. 00:02:26.01\00:02:28.38 We thank You for protecting us. 00:02:28.41\00:02:30.38 We thank You for the joy of being able to rest 00:02:30.41\00:02:33.45 on Your holy Sabbath day. 00:02:33.48\00:02:35.82 And we pray, Lord, that You will help us to 00:02:35.85\00:02:37.52 enter into worshiping You in spirit and in truth. 00:02:37.55\00:02:40.76 We ask for Your blessing of the Holy Spirit. 00:02:40.79\00:02:43.53 So that as we share together, we will rejoice in knowing that 00:02:43.56\00:02:47.63 You are speaking to us, speaking through us 00:02:47.66\00:02:51.07 and that the blessing of Your Word 00:02:51.10\00:02:54.54 is going out to millions of people. 00:02:54.57\00:02:57.04 We pray, Lord, for these things in the holy 00:02:57.07\00:02:59.61 and blessed name of Jesus. 00:02:59.64\00:03:01.78 Amen. Amen. 00:03:01.81\00:03:03.41 Amen. 00:03:03.45\00:03:04.78 You know, it's incredible 00:03:04.81\00:03:06.31 when we think about eternal love 00:03:06.35\00:03:08.65 and God's eternal love. 00:03:08.68\00:03:10.02 I want us to open with Jeremiah 31:3, 00:03:10.05\00:03:13.92 and it says, "The Lord has appeared 00:03:13.96\00:03:17.06 of old to me saying, 00:03:17.09\00:03:18.99 'Yes, I have loved you with an everlasting love, 00:03:19.03\00:03:22.46 therefore, with lovingkindness I have drawn you." 00:03:22.50\00:03:26.80 I mean, picture that, an everlasting love. 00:03:26.84\00:03:31.14 Praise the Lord. Yeah. 00:03:31.17\00:03:32.51 You can't, you cannot do anything 00:03:32.54\00:03:35.94 to lose that love, no matter what you do. 00:03:35.98\00:03:39.38 Even if you don't accept it, even if you reject it, 00:03:39.41\00:03:42.38 that love is always flowing over you 00:03:42.42\00:03:44.82 whether you acknowledge it or not, always. 00:03:44.85\00:03:48.39 That's a good point. That's right. 00:03:48.42\00:03:49.82 You know, we hear of people saying that you repeat often, 00:03:49.86\00:03:54.96 I love you, I love you, I love you. 00:03:55.00\00:03:57.37 But then that person does not actually prove 00:03:57.40\00:04:01.40 that love with action. 00:04:01.44\00:04:03.77 But God does, 00:04:03.81\00:04:05.21 and over and over and over again. 00:04:05.24\00:04:07.74 But, of course, the greatest manifestation 00:04:07.78\00:04:09.44 of His love is Jesus Christ dying on the cross for us. 00:04:09.48\00:04:12.25 Amen. 00:04:12.28\00:04:13.62 In fact, this verse reminds us a little bit of that verse 00:04:13.65\00:04:16.25 where Jesus says, "And I, if I be lifted up," 00:04:16.28\00:04:19.69 John 12:32, "will draw all men unto Me." 00:04:19.72\00:04:22.79 Because it says, with, 00:04:22.82\00:04:24.53 I've loved you with an everlasting love 00:04:24.56\00:04:25.99 and with lovingkindness have I drawn you. 00:04:26.03\00:04:28.16 So the lovingkindness of God 00:04:28.20\00:04:29.70 has to be connected with Calvary, 00:04:29.73\00:04:31.70 where Jesus was on the cross, lifted up, 00:04:31.73\00:04:34.14 drawing the world to Himself. 00:04:34.17\00:04:35.50 Amen. 00:04:35.54\00:04:36.87 Part of that love, ever love is that, 00:04:36.91\00:04:38.24 everlasting love is the lovingkindness 00:04:38.27\00:04:40.64 if you have that kind of love, that depth of love, 00:04:40.68\00:04:45.68 it comes automatically with loving kindness. 00:04:45.71\00:04:48.98 And Jesus always expressed that in the Bible, 00:04:49.02\00:04:52.85 and God always shows that that lovingkindness, 00:04:52.89\00:04:56.66 it's never beating over the head with anything 00:04:56.69\00:04:59.96 or even if we reject Him, 00:05:00.00\00:05:02.63 Jesus, that the poor, 00:05:02.66\00:05:06.03 the rich young ruler, 00:05:06.07\00:05:08.87 Jesus didn't beat him up. 00:05:08.90\00:05:12.77 He let him walk away, 00:05:12.81\00:05:15.88 He still gave that everlasting love to him, 00:05:15.91\00:05:18.85 He still gave that kindness to him, 00:05:18.88\00:05:21.92 even though he walked away and turned his back on that. 00:05:21.95\00:05:26.55 I like that though because it's interesting 00:05:26.59\00:05:28.86 how we sometimes, you know, 00:05:28.89\00:05:31.26 we say the word love and an automatic idea is, 00:05:31.29\00:05:33.96 you know, this pushy, gushy, mushy, emotional thing. 00:05:34.00\00:05:38.13 Jesus did say to the return ruler, you know, 00:05:38.17\00:05:41.14 this is what needs to be done in your life. 00:05:41.17\00:05:43.24 These are the changes that need to be made. 00:05:43.27\00:05:45.34 And like you said, Dee, 00:05:45.37\00:05:46.71 in spite of the ruler rejecting Him, 00:05:46.74\00:05:48.54 Christ still long for his heart. 00:05:48.58\00:05:50.75 He longed after him. 00:05:50.78\00:05:52.65 But He didn't compromise 00:05:52.68\00:05:54.42 the principles of God's government 00:05:54.45\00:05:56.35 aren't compromised. 00:05:56.38\00:05:57.72 Love doesn't compromise truth and righteousness. 00:05:57.75\00:06:01.52 It longs after souls, it draw souls, 00:06:01.56\00:06:04.83 but we still have a free choice. 00:06:04.86\00:06:06.19 That's right. That's right. 00:06:06.23\00:06:07.56 You know that, that's true, because when you consider that, 00:06:07.60\00:06:12.03 you hear, I have done this. 00:06:12.07\00:06:13.84 I don't know if any of you have done this. 00:06:13.87\00:06:16.14 You go to these countries, and they say, 00:06:16.17\00:06:18.94 you ask, well, how much is that? 00:06:18.97\00:06:20.94 And they say a price, and to you it sounds like, 00:06:20.98\00:06:23.61 well, that's way too high for that. 00:06:23.65\00:06:25.71 Thank you very much. 00:06:25.75\00:06:27.75 You start walking out. 00:06:27.78\00:06:29.12 Wait, wait, wait, for you, I'll lower the price. 00:06:29.15\00:06:31.92 You know, and they'll lower the price. 00:06:31.95\00:06:33.36 I went through that in Israel by the way. 00:06:33.39\00:06:35.29 But anyway, God doesn't, God did not change anything. 00:06:35.32\00:06:38.19 Jesus did not change anything. 00:06:38.23\00:06:39.56 Does not negotiate. 00:06:39.59\00:06:40.93 And His love did not change, either. 00:06:40.96\00:06:42.86 He knew he understood the conditions. 00:06:42.90\00:06:45.87 But he did not know 00:06:45.90\00:06:48.47 how to appreciate the love of God 00:06:48.50\00:06:51.44 and respond to that love. 00:06:51.47\00:06:52.81 Yeah. 00:06:52.84\00:06:54.18 The love is unconditional and uncompromising. 00:06:54.21\00:06:57.25 But it's a strong love. 00:06:57.28\00:06:59.78 The love is unbelievable in what it will do for you. 00:06:59.81\00:07:03.72 It's a working love. Yeah. 00:07:03.75\00:07:06.12 And I think it speaks to the fact that 00:07:06.15\00:07:07.99 it is a principle and not just an emotion, 00:07:08.02\00:07:12.03 as you brought out just, 00:07:12.06\00:07:13.43 you know, just a little while ago, 00:07:13.46\00:07:14.90 like it is a principle, it requires action, 00:07:14.93\00:07:18.53 it requires you to show 00:07:18.57\00:07:20.40 because you can say, oh, I love you all day. 00:07:20.44\00:07:22.40 But if you don't do anything like 00:07:22.44\00:07:24.37 if, you know, if you say oh, I love you. 00:07:24.41\00:07:26.91 Let's say you get married, and you're married, 00:07:26.94\00:07:28.91 and you tell your wife all, you know, I love you. 00:07:28.94\00:07:31.68 I do. 00:07:31.71\00:07:33.05 But now that we're married, 00:07:33.08\00:07:34.42 I don't need to keep these wedding vows. 00:07:34.45\00:07:36.32 Now that we're married, I don't need to court you, 00:07:36.35\00:07:38.59 like I don't need to take you out. 00:07:38.62\00:07:39.95 We don't need to go on dates like, I love you. 00:07:39.99\00:07:42.89 Like if we love God, 00:07:42.92\00:07:46.73 then we need to show Him that we love Him. 00:07:46.76\00:07:50.00 And how do we do that? 00:07:50.03\00:07:51.37 Well, He says, "If you love Me, 00:07:51.40\00:07:52.83 keep My commandments." 00:07:52.87\00:07:54.20 You know, 00:07:54.24\00:07:55.57 but there's so many different ways 00:07:55.60\00:07:56.94 that we can show we can be kind to others, 00:07:56.97\00:07:58.87 just like you're speaking 00:07:58.91\00:08:00.24 about the kindness component there. 00:08:00.28\00:08:02.14 I mean, there's so many different ways 00:08:02.18\00:08:03.95 that we can show our love for God. 00:08:03.98\00:08:07.08 But you know, there's a lot of times 00:08:07.12\00:08:08.45 where we fall short. 00:08:08.48\00:08:09.82 Love is a state of being, it's not just an emotion. 00:08:09.85\00:08:13.52 Matter of fact, 00:08:13.56\00:08:15.56 the least strongest of real love is the emotion. 00:08:15.59\00:08:20.20 The real love that gets deeper and stronger 00:08:20.23\00:08:24.20 is the one that comes from action of doing, 00:08:24.23\00:08:27.30 of being and not just that wimpy. 00:08:27.34\00:08:31.41 Yeah. Yeah. 00:08:31.44\00:08:32.77 I love you. Yeah. 00:08:32.81\00:08:34.14 Well, take out the trash then son. 00:08:34.18\00:08:35.74 Won't know action behind it, you know. 00:08:35.78\00:08:38.21 Let's talk about the manner of love 00:08:38.25\00:08:40.95 that God has. 00:08:40.98\00:08:42.38 Pastor Rafferty, you have 1 John 3:1. 00:08:42.42\00:08:45.09 1 John 3:1. 00:08:45.12\00:08:46.55 And I really love this 00:08:46.59\00:08:47.92 because of the way that it reads. 00:08:47.96\00:08:49.66 1 John 3:1, it says, 00:08:49.69\00:08:51.96 "Behold what manner of love 00:08:51.99\00:08:53.40 the Father has bestowed upon us, 00:08:53.43\00:08:55.63 that we should be called the sons of God! 00:08:55.66\00:08:57.63 Therefore the world knows us not 00:08:57.67\00:08:59.93 because it knew Him not." 00:08:59.97\00:09:01.87 And it seems like John is just caught up in this 00:09:01.90\00:09:04.34 inability to describe 00:09:07.84\00:09:11.71 God's love in detail. 00:09:11.75\00:09:14.28 And so, instead of, you know, trying to lay it all out, 00:09:14.32\00:09:18.92 he says, you just need to behold it. 00:09:18.95\00:09:20.89 You know, have you ever been in a situation where 00:09:20.92\00:09:23.66 you've experienced something that's really good, 00:09:23.69\00:09:25.76 and maybe it's just, 00:09:25.79\00:09:27.80 you go on a vacation to this place, 00:09:27.83\00:09:29.23 and it's just amazing. 00:09:29.26\00:09:30.60 Everything's just amazing, right? 00:09:30.63\00:09:32.67 And you're trying to explain somebody, 00:09:32.70\00:09:34.04 you just wouldn't believe us, you wouldn't believe. 00:09:34.07\00:09:35.50 And he said, you've got to, you just got to go. 00:09:35.54\00:09:37.07 You just got to go. 00:09:37.11\00:09:38.44 Or you go to this restaurant, this food is just incredible. 00:09:38.47\00:09:40.18 And you're thinking, man, this was the best food. 00:09:40.21\00:09:41.81 I mean, such good, vegetarian food. 00:09:41.84\00:09:45.28 It was just amazing vegetarian food, right? 00:09:45.31\00:09:50.19 And you're trying to explain to him 00:09:50.22\00:09:51.62 that you just got to go, you just got to taste it. 00:09:51.65\00:09:53.36 This is what John is saying. 00:09:53.39\00:09:54.72 He's saying, behold, I can't explain it to you. 00:09:54.76\00:09:57.79 I can't describe it, I can't. 00:09:57.83\00:09:59.49 It's, you just got to behold it, 00:09:59.53\00:10:01.33 you've got to taste it for yourself, 00:10:01.36\00:10:02.70 you've got to check it. 00:10:02.73\00:10:04.07 God's love has to be experienced. 00:10:04.10\00:10:05.43 Yes. Amen. 00:10:05.47\00:10:06.80 And we were it says, 00:10:06.84\00:10:10.61 well, He loved us before He knew, 00:10:10.64\00:10:12.41 before we knew Him, before we loved Him, 00:10:12.44\00:10:14.44 and before we knew Him. 00:10:14.48\00:10:15.94 And that happens to human beings, 00:10:15.98\00:10:17.81 when you have children, you have not seen that child, 00:10:17.85\00:10:22.05 you haven't held that child, you don't know that child, 00:10:22.08\00:10:25.35 you're carrying that child in your womb, 00:10:25.39\00:10:27.06 or your wife is carrying the child. 00:10:27.09\00:10:28.89 You love that child from then on. 00:10:28.92\00:10:32.76 So I mean, at that point, 00:10:32.79\00:10:34.13 you're starting to love that child. 00:10:34.16\00:10:35.86 So God loves us before we knew Him. 00:10:35.90\00:10:42.34 Does that make sense? It does. 00:10:42.37\00:10:43.71 Remember, when my son was born, 00:10:43.74\00:10:45.07 I didn't know anything about him, 00:10:45.11\00:10:46.44 except that it took 31 hours for him to come out. 00:10:46.47\00:10:48.91 And as soon as he came out, I was like, what is this? 00:10:48.94\00:10:52.31 And it was feeling an emotion and just this, 00:10:52.35\00:10:55.78 this desire to just love and protect this so baby, 00:10:55.82\00:10:59.39 you know, I didn't even know him, 00:10:59.42\00:11:00.86 I didn't know him from anything, you know, 00:11:00.89\00:11:02.59 but it's there. 00:11:02.62\00:11:03.96 And that's what God is communicating. 00:11:03.99\00:11:05.36 And there was action behind that love. 00:11:05.39\00:11:07.30 You had all this overwhelming love. 00:11:07.33\00:11:09.76 But you wanted to do something with that love. 00:11:09.80\00:11:13.50 You didn't want to just. 00:11:13.54\00:11:14.90 No, I want to protect, 00:11:14.94\00:11:16.27 and, of course, my wife was in bed for a couple weeks. 00:11:16.30\00:11:17.74 So it was, there was definitely action. 00:11:17.77\00:11:19.51 It was just a diaper thing. 00:11:19.54\00:11:22.04 House cleaning action was going on right there. 00:11:22.08\00:11:23.95 'Cause you love that son. 00:11:23.98\00:11:25.51 I think she said, 00:11:25.55\00:11:26.88 well, I carried on for nine months, 00:11:26.92\00:11:28.52 Pastor Rafferty. 00:11:28.55\00:11:30.09 Well, here's the interesting thing. 00:11:30.12\00:11:31.45 She didn't have to say anything. 00:11:31.49\00:11:32.82 Yeah. 00:11:32.85\00:11:34.19 You know, because when we behold 00:11:34.22\00:11:35.56 the love of God, 00:11:35.59\00:11:36.93 He almost doesn't have to say anything. 00:11:36.96\00:11:38.29 It's like, of course, I remember 00:11:38.33\00:11:39.66 when I first came in contact 00:11:39.69\00:11:41.03 with the idea of going to church on Saturday, 00:11:41.06\00:11:42.40 I mean, the Sabbath. 00:11:42.43\00:11:43.77 I never knew anything about it. 00:11:43.80\00:11:45.13 I was raised Catholic Sunday and all that. 00:11:45.17\00:11:46.63 And, but I had fallen in love with Jesus, 00:11:46.67\00:11:48.94 I accepted Christ as my Savior. 00:11:48.97\00:11:50.74 And someone was sharing this with me 00:11:50.77\00:11:52.27 and I was convicted it was the right day. 00:11:52.31\00:11:54.01 And they were saying, "So what do you think?" 00:11:54.04\00:11:55.44 And I said, "Well, of course I love God, 00:11:55.48\00:11:56.81 I'll do whatever He wants me to do, 00:11:56.85\00:11:58.18 because I love Him." 00:11:58.21\00:11:59.55 Yeah. 00:11:59.58\00:12:00.92 It wasn't an issue of being doctrinally right. 00:12:00.95\00:12:03.08 It was an issue of loving God 00:12:03.12\00:12:05.29 and wanting to please Him and let Him in. 00:12:05.32\00:12:07.32 Experiencing His love. Yes. 00:12:07.36\00:12:09.79 Once... 00:12:09.82\00:12:11.16 It's very hard for human beings to really comprehend 00:12:11.19\00:12:15.53 the kind of love that God really has for us. 00:12:15.56\00:12:18.47 And once you experience that, behold, once you taste it, 00:12:18.50\00:12:22.10 when you experience it, 00:12:22.14\00:12:24.14 and it just kind of rolls over you somehow 00:12:24.17\00:12:26.57 and somehow your brain 00:12:26.61\00:12:28.14 can kind of wrap yourself around 00:12:28.18\00:12:30.35 this incredible love that's everlasting. 00:12:30.38\00:12:33.88 That it's, that He loves me, not my actions. 00:12:33.92\00:12:37.42 He loves me, not what I do or don't do. 00:12:37.45\00:12:40.66 He loves me. 00:12:40.69\00:12:42.96 Once you can except that, it's overwhelming. 00:12:42.99\00:12:47.33 Yes. And it's an amazing experience. 00:12:47.36\00:12:49.43 Yes, Pastor Dinzey, 00:12:49.46\00:12:50.93 you look like something's on your mind 00:12:50.97\00:12:52.30 and you've been, that you want to give out. 00:12:52.33\00:12:53.67 Well, you know, when you consider 00:12:53.70\00:12:56.57 this scripture is really fantastic. 00:12:56.60\00:12:58.41 And we can spend 00:12:58.44\00:12:59.97 hours and hours talking about this, 00:13:00.01\00:13:02.71 from the perspective of behold what manner of love 00:13:02.74\00:13:06.15 God has bestowed toward us, 00:13:06.18\00:13:08.38 and that we should be called children of God. 00:13:08.42\00:13:12.25 It's like, "Wait, you, you mean me? 00:13:12.29\00:13:15.26 I can be a child of God." 00:13:15.29\00:13:17.03 And He says, "Yes, you are My child." 00:13:17.06\00:13:19.76 And if we enter 00:13:19.79\00:13:21.13 into that relationship with Him, 00:13:21.16\00:13:22.93 where we recognize Him as our Father, 00:13:22.96\00:13:26.43 our Heavenly Father, 00:13:26.47\00:13:27.94 then things begin to change for us 00:13:27.97\00:13:30.91 in our understanding that, you know, 00:13:30.94\00:13:34.74 we go to pray, knowing that, that's my Heavenly Father. 00:13:34.78\00:13:39.65 He cares for me, He loves me. 00:13:39.68\00:13:41.45 And I'm presenting to Him a request. 00:13:41.48\00:13:44.12 And I need to trust Him 00:13:44.15\00:13:45.49 that if I'm asking for something that 00:13:45.52\00:13:47.76 is not really good for me, that He's gonna say, 00:13:47.79\00:13:50.29 "My son, it's not good for you to have that. 00:13:50.33\00:13:54.86 Or my son, the best thing for you right now is to wait." 00:13:54.90\00:13:58.70 So I need to trust God. 00:13:58.73\00:14:00.14 We need to learn to trust Him because, 00:14:00.17\00:14:03.41 you know, I'm sure you've heard of stories, 00:14:03.44\00:14:05.54 you preach evangelistic campaigns, 00:14:05.57\00:14:08.11 and there are some people that believe, 00:14:08.14\00:14:10.18 oh, there's no way God could love me 00:14:10.21\00:14:12.48 because they believe they have done so much evil, 00:14:12.51\00:14:15.72 that somehow the amount of evil they do is like you said, 00:14:15.75\00:14:19.69 God loves you, your actions to Him, 00:14:19.72\00:14:23.26 and don't play a part in changing His love. 00:14:23.29\00:14:26.66 And that the people think that I've done so much evil 00:14:26.70\00:14:29.56 that God doesn't love me. 00:14:29.60\00:14:30.93 No, His love is everlasting. 00:14:30.97\00:14:34.14 His love is beyond our comprehension. 00:14:34.17\00:14:36.94 And John could not even explain it. 00:14:36.97\00:14:39.77 He said, Behold, behold that love. 00:14:39.81\00:14:43.14 Yes. That's beautiful. 00:14:43.18\00:14:44.51 And I want to read this from Steps to Christ. 00:14:44.55\00:14:46.85 It says unparalleled love. That's the title of it. 00:14:46.88\00:14:50.09 And it says, "The price paid for our redemption, 00:14:50.12\00:14:53.39 the infinite sacrifice of our heavenly Father 00:14:53.42\00:14:55.72 in giving His Son to die for us, 00:14:55.76\00:14:58.46 should give us exalted conceptions 00:14:58.49\00:15:00.73 of what we may become through Christ. 00:15:00.76\00:15:03.70 As the inspired apostle John beheld the height, 00:15:03.73\00:15:06.97 the depth, the breadth of the Father's love 00:15:07.00\00:15:10.11 toward the perishing race, 00:15:10.14\00:15:11.87 he was filled with adoration and reverence, 00:15:11.91\00:15:14.84 and failing to find suitable language 00:15:14.88\00:15:17.45 in which to express the greatness 00:15:17.48\00:15:19.41 and tenderness of this love, 00:15:19.45\00:15:21.28 he called upon the world to behold it. 00:15:21.32\00:15:24.29 What a value this places upon man! 00:15:24.32\00:15:27.09 Through transgression, the sons of men 00:15:27.12\00:15:29.52 become subjects of Satan. 00:15:29.56\00:15:31.46 Through faith 00:15:31.49\00:15:32.83 in the atoning sacrifice of Christ, 00:15:32.86\00:15:35.06 the sons of Adam may become the Sons of God. 00:15:35.10\00:15:38.57 By assuming human nature, Christ elevates humanity. 00:15:38.60\00:15:43.44 Fallen men are placed 00:15:43.47\00:15:44.87 where through connection with Christ, 00:15:44.91\00:15:47.24 they may indeed become 00:15:47.28\00:15:48.88 worthy of the name, sons of God. 00:15:48.91\00:15:51.71 Such love is without a parallel. 00:15:51.75\00:15:53.85 Children of the heavenly King! 00:15:53.88\00:15:55.68 Precious promise! 00:15:55.72\00:15:57.05 Theme for the most profound meditation! 00:15:57.09\00:16:00.62 The matchless love of God 00:16:00.66\00:16:02.82 for a world that did not love Him! 00:16:02.86\00:16:05.43 The thought has a subduing power 00:16:05.46\00:16:07.43 upon the soul, 00:16:07.46\00:16:08.80 and brings the mind into captivity 00:16:08.83\00:16:10.30 to the will of God. 00:16:10.33\00:16:11.80 The more we study the divine character 00:16:11.83\00:16:15.54 in the light of the cross, the more we see mercy, 00:16:15.57\00:16:18.84 tenderness, and forgiveness, 00:16:18.87\00:16:20.81 blended with equity and justice, 00:16:20.84\00:16:23.24 and the more clearly we discern 00:16:23.28\00:16:25.58 innumerable evidences of a love that is infinite, 00:16:25.61\00:16:29.68 and tender pity surpassing 00:16:29.72\00:16:31.95 a mother's yearning sympathy for her wayward child." 00:16:31.99\00:16:37.36 That is incredible. 00:16:37.39\00:16:40.10 That is a... 00:16:40.13\00:16:41.66 An inspired arrangement of words 00:16:41.70\00:16:44.43 to communicate something 00:16:44.47\00:16:46.30 that still with all those words selected, 00:16:46.33\00:16:50.64 inspiredly selected, inspired... 00:16:50.67\00:16:52.77 How do you say that? 00:16:52.81\00:16:55.64 Selected in with inspiration, I think, 00:16:55.68\00:16:59.75 draws you and helps you understand more. 00:16:59.78\00:17:03.05 But still, I mean, it's remarkable, 00:17:03.08\00:17:07.29 that's a precious declaration to consider God's love, 00:17:07.32\00:17:12.19 God's tender love, God's unexplainable, 00:17:12.23\00:17:15.76 is that a word, that we can't explain. 00:17:15.80\00:17:18.23 Unfathomable His love. 00:17:18.27\00:17:20.07 Yeah. Yeah. 00:17:20.10\00:17:21.57 And that's, that's another thing in here, 00:17:21.60\00:17:23.61 I see the equity and justice part. 00:17:23.64\00:17:26.68 You know, a lot of times, especially in today's society, 00:17:26.71\00:17:29.44 people think that you need to be an enabler 00:17:29.48\00:17:31.91 to actually love someone like you, 00:17:31.95\00:17:34.32 you can't tell them that they can gain 00:17:34.35\00:17:36.48 the victory over something, 00:17:36.52\00:17:38.19 you know, you're kind of deemed as a hater 00:17:38.22\00:17:40.66 or, you know, whatever the case may be, like, 00:17:40.69\00:17:43.43 it's like, they want you to embrace 00:17:43.46\00:17:45.73 a certain lifestyle, or certain choices 00:17:45.76\00:17:49.60 as opposed to trying to help them 00:17:49.63\00:17:52.10 see that there's a better path and help them see 00:17:52.13\00:17:54.94 that Christ can give them the victory. 00:17:54.97\00:17:57.67 Here's the picture I've never seen before. 00:17:57.71\00:18:00.61 You know, you remember Cain and Abel. 00:18:00.64\00:18:03.51 Cain offered the offering of the fruits of the earth, 00:18:03.55\00:18:07.15 fruits and vegetables. 00:18:07.18\00:18:08.52 Cain offered the offering 00:18:08.55\00:18:09.88 that was supposed to be offered. 00:18:09.92\00:18:11.45 Blood. 00:18:11.49\00:18:13.05 After that happened, we understand that 00:18:13.09\00:18:14.76 fire descended from heaven and consumed the offering 00:18:14.79\00:18:17.19 that Abel presented, 00:18:17.23\00:18:18.93 but I can almost picture 00:18:18.96\00:18:21.50 Cain looking in expecting and nothing happens. 00:18:21.53\00:18:25.47 The next scene in the Bible is God 00:18:25.50\00:18:28.94 talking to Cain 00:18:28.97\00:18:30.54 and concerned His love for Cain, 00:18:30.57\00:18:34.14 when He went to talk to him about this. 00:18:34.18\00:18:36.08 And so, you would think they say, 00:18:36.11\00:18:39.95 you will see a picture of God talking to Abel, Abel, 00:18:39.98\00:18:42.72 my son, I'm so proud of you. 00:18:42.75\00:18:44.12 You've done the right thing. 00:18:44.15\00:18:45.49 But no, it shows us a picture of Abel. 00:18:45.52\00:18:47.99 I mean, Cain, God talking to Cain. 00:18:48.02\00:18:50.69 And this is something that we need to remember. 00:18:50.73\00:18:53.70 When we do something wrong, God doesn't say, 00:18:53.73\00:18:56.33 "Okay, if you want to have it your way, go ahead. 00:18:56.36\00:18:58.47 I'm going this way." 00:18:58.50\00:18:59.83 No, God is interested. 00:18:59.87\00:19:01.20 God is concerned. God wants to be with us. 00:19:01.24\00:19:03.24 God wants to draw us to Him. Amen. 00:19:03.27\00:19:05.91 And that's the best place to be next to that. 00:19:05.94\00:19:08.11 So much so, 00:19:08.14\00:19:09.48 you have the next scripture John 3:6. 00:19:09.51\00:19:12.85 I think Pastor Rafferty wanted to say something. 00:19:12.88\00:19:14.28 I was gonna say, and then he goes beyond 00:19:14.32\00:19:15.65 that even and He marks Cain to protect him. 00:19:15.68\00:19:17.62 Yes. 00:19:17.65\00:19:18.99 Here's the disobedient being marked, 00:19:19.02\00:19:20.36 you know, in Revelation, 00:19:20.39\00:19:21.82 the obedient are marked or sealed with a seal of God. 00:19:21.86\00:19:23.96 But in this Old Testament story, 00:19:23.99\00:19:25.96 the disobedient one is marked and protected. 00:19:25.99\00:19:27.63 Yes. 00:19:27.66\00:19:29.00 And I think Satan has borrowed that, 00:19:29.03\00:19:30.67 he is counterfeiting that in Revelation 13, 00:19:30.70\00:19:32.63 where he marks his people here to attack them... 00:19:32.67\00:19:34.50 Isn't that something? 00:19:34.54\00:19:35.87 Create a campfire. 00:19:35.90\00:19:37.24 So Satan's always counterfeiting 00:19:37.27\00:19:38.61 but he's trying to counterfeit God's love, but you can't. 00:19:38.64\00:19:40.58 God was giving. 00:19:40.61\00:19:41.94 He wanted to make sure he had a chance 00:19:41.98\00:19:43.58 to change his mind and come back to Him. 00:19:43.61\00:19:46.35 He wasn't done yet. 00:19:46.38\00:19:48.65 And that's what He does with us. 00:19:48.68\00:19:50.32 He keeps, our own guilt separates us 00:19:50.35\00:19:55.42 and God keeps trying to call us back 00:19:55.46\00:19:58.89 because humans 00:19:58.93\00:20:01.16 can't separate the action from the love. 00:20:01.20\00:20:03.53 We just can't seem to grasp that. 00:20:03.57\00:20:06.37 And God only looks at us with that love 00:20:06.40\00:20:11.54 and pushes the action aside. 00:20:11.57\00:20:14.18 Amen. Amen. 00:20:14.21\00:20:15.54 Well, John 3:16. 00:20:15.58\00:20:16.98 John 3:16 is the scripture going to next. 00:20:17.01\00:20:19.25 And so the Bible tells us that "God so loved the world 00:20:19.28\00:20:23.89 that He gave His only begotten Son, 00:20:23.92\00:20:26.92 that whoever believes in Him should not perish, 00:20:26.96\00:20:30.86 but have everlasting life." 00:20:30.89\00:20:33.76 Amen. 00:20:33.80\00:20:35.26 When I saw, you know, this scripture, 00:20:35.30\00:20:39.30 I've dedicated a lot of thought and prayer to the scripture 00:20:39.33\00:20:41.50 for many years, 00:20:41.54\00:20:42.87 and from time to time you come back to and I say, 00:20:42.90\00:20:45.24 is there more? 00:20:45.27\00:20:46.61 And yes, God has abundant 00:20:46.64\00:20:50.31 blessings in studying any of the scriptures. 00:20:50.35\00:20:53.21 This one in particularly I have, 00:20:53.25\00:20:54.95 the Lord has blessed me to discover 00:20:54.98\00:20:56.32 so many wonderful things. 00:20:56.35\00:20:58.12 And I am going to just say, behold, 00:20:58.15\00:21:02.12 the love of God, 00:21:02.16\00:21:03.53 that He was willing to give His Son 00:21:03.56\00:21:08.66 so that whoever believes in Him 00:21:08.70\00:21:12.50 should not perish, but have everlasting life. 00:21:12.53\00:21:15.70 And, you know, a picture of a God 00:21:15.74\00:21:20.58 that loves us that much 00:21:20.61\00:21:22.58 is beyond our comprehension really is, 00:21:22.61\00:21:25.15 that He gave His only begotten Son. 00:21:25.18\00:21:28.08 Like it, like you read earlier for a world 00:21:28.12\00:21:30.42 that did not love Him. 00:21:30.45\00:21:33.05 Imagine that? Yes. 00:21:33.09\00:21:34.59 And the suffering that Christ endured, 00:21:34.62\00:21:37.13 we do not comprehend. 00:21:37.16\00:21:39.13 We will continue to study this in heaven. 00:21:39.16\00:21:41.73 But this love that God gave His only begotten Son, 00:21:41.76\00:21:45.63 I mean, what He gives, God gives completely. 00:21:45.67\00:21:48.24 Yeah. 00:21:48.27\00:21:49.74 And there's so much you can say about this, 00:21:49.77\00:21:51.97 that again, you can spend hours and hours talking about. 00:21:52.01\00:21:54.41 That encompasses when it says God, 00:21:54.44\00:21:57.68 when it says that God so loved the world, 00:21:57.71\00:22:01.48 that encompasses every single human being, 00:22:01.52\00:22:05.32 that's not just the US 00:22:05.35\00:22:07.82 or the people that were born after 1800. 00:22:07.86\00:22:11.79 We do not comprehend that every human being 00:22:11.83\00:22:16.20 that ever walked on this earth has an opportunity 00:22:16.23\00:22:20.27 to choose everlasting life. 00:22:20.30\00:22:22.97 And we don't know how that works. 00:22:23.00\00:22:24.57 We don't understand. 00:22:24.61\00:22:26.01 We don't always understand how that's going to happen. 00:22:26.04\00:22:28.74 But it did happen, and it is happening, 00:22:28.78\00:22:30.85 and it will continue to happen 00:22:30.88\00:22:33.31 that God loved every human being. 00:22:33.35\00:22:37.55 They're gonna be a lot of human beings, 00:22:37.59\00:22:38.92 they're going to be lost, 'cause He loved them... 00:22:38.95\00:22:41.69 Of course, He loves them. 00:22:41.72\00:22:43.59 Do you? 00:22:43.63\00:22:44.96 Just because you lose somebody, and they turn... 00:22:44.99\00:22:47.96 How many... 00:22:48.00\00:22:49.33 Haven't you love somebody who said, 00:22:49.36\00:22:50.70 "No, I don't love you. 00:22:50.73\00:22:52.07 Get out of my life. 00:22:52.10\00:22:53.44 I don't want nothing to do with you." 00:22:53.47\00:22:55.14 Don't you still have... 00:22:55.17\00:22:56.74 You still have a tie to them, even human beings, 00:22:56.77\00:22:59.94 you remember that love or that hurt. 00:22:59.97\00:23:02.41 You remember that hurt. 00:23:02.44\00:23:04.28 So God's love still exists. 00:23:04.31\00:23:07.62 He's gonna miss every one of them in heaven. 00:23:07.65\00:23:10.55 They were unique. 00:23:10.59\00:23:12.25 So he's, everyone that says no to Him. 00:23:12.29\00:23:15.39 Every human being that turned away from Him, 00:23:15.42\00:23:17.86 He continues to love 00:23:17.89\00:23:19.23 and He's gonna always miss them. 00:23:19.26\00:23:21.30 No one can replace the person that He lost. 00:23:21.33\00:23:24.90 Has anyone lost a loved one here? 00:23:24.93\00:23:27.27 Did anyone ever replace them? 00:23:27.30\00:23:29.97 My cousin Marilyn, no one can replace her. 00:23:30.01\00:23:32.87 We were only 17. 00:23:32.91\00:23:35.44 But and that's so many years ago, 00:23:35.48\00:23:38.11 we're not going to say how many. 00:23:38.15\00:23:39.48 No one's been able to replace her 00:23:39.51\00:23:41.05 and that memory is not gone, 00:23:41.08\00:23:42.62 that love for her is not gone, and it doesn't. 00:23:42.65\00:23:45.75 And so, of course, it doesn't disappear for God. 00:23:45.79\00:23:48.59 He never lets go of. 00:23:48.62\00:23:50.49 Yes, amen. 00:23:50.53\00:23:51.86 I'm getting ahead here. 00:23:51.89\00:23:53.23 But, you know, 00:23:53.26\00:23:54.60 because there's the verse up ahead 00:23:54.63\00:23:55.96 that talks about who can separate us 00:23:56.00\00:23:57.33 from God's love. 00:23:57.37\00:23:58.70 So basically what I hear you saying, Dee, 00:23:58.73\00:24:00.07 is God so loved the world 00:24:00.10\00:24:02.04 that He gave His only begotten Son, 00:24:02.07\00:24:04.21 includes everyone. 00:24:04.24\00:24:05.57 So there's no conditions there. 00:24:05.61\00:24:07.38 He doesn't just love those who will believe in Him 00:24:07.41\00:24:09.31 or might believe in Him. 00:24:09.34\00:24:10.68 He loves them, of course. Yes. 00:24:10.71\00:24:12.05 That's why He gave His Son unconditionally, 00:24:12.08\00:24:14.22 so that whosoever believes in Him, 00:24:14.25\00:24:16.22 because the only way that a fallen human being 00:24:16.25\00:24:18.22 could actually believe in God is to receive first His love. 00:24:18.25\00:24:21.92 And once God's love comes in, 00:24:21.96\00:24:23.73 we'll behold in, it's everlasting. 00:24:23.76\00:24:25.83 It actually transforms us to believe so I really, 00:24:25.86\00:24:30.03 I mean, I agree with you 100%. 00:24:30.07\00:24:31.60 I really feel that this verse, you know, in theological terms, 00:24:31.63\00:24:34.87 we call this objective and subjective. 00:24:34.90\00:24:39.07 The first part of the verse is objective. 00:24:39.11\00:24:41.28 God so loved the world. 00:24:41.31\00:24:42.91 That's an objective fact 00:24:42.94\00:24:44.58 that's nothing to do with our response. 00:24:44.61\00:24:46.05 That's right. 00:24:46.08\00:24:47.42 He had to do that, 00:24:47.45\00:24:48.78 He had to objectively love us, unconditionally, 00:24:48.82\00:24:52.09 in order so that whosoever believes 00:24:52.12\00:24:55.49 might not perish, but have everlasting life 00:24:55.52\00:24:57.56 and it's just, it's un incomprehensible 00:24:57.59\00:25:00.90 to recognize this verse and the plan of salvation 00:25:00.93\00:25:04.00 it's bringing out 00:25:04.03\00:25:05.37 it's just amazing, it's beautiful. 00:25:05.40\00:25:07.37 All you do is open up and accept that love, 00:25:07.40\00:25:10.61 and He will let it grow in you. 00:25:10.64\00:25:12.31 And then that's how you behold it 00:25:12.34\00:25:14.94 is just open up and accept it 00:25:14.98\00:25:17.15 and then you will behold it and then you grow 00:25:17.18\00:25:19.25 and you believe and you understand and you 00:25:19.28\00:25:21.95 and you want to love back. 00:25:21.98\00:25:24.75 Then we become changed. 00:25:24.79\00:25:26.15 You know, this verse isn't on here. 00:25:26.19\00:25:27.52 But Romans 5:6-8, 00:25:27.56\00:25:30.99 "For when we were still without strength, 00:25:31.03\00:25:34.20 in due time Christ died for the ungodly. 00:25:34.23\00:25:37.10 For scarcely for a righteous man 00:25:37.13\00:25:38.97 will one die, 00:25:39.00\00:25:40.34 yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. 00:25:40.37\00:25:44.31 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, 00:25:44.34\00:25:48.01 in that while we were still sinners, 00:25:48.04\00:25:49.91 Christ died for us. 00:25:49.94\00:25:52.71 That's incredible. 00:25:52.75\00:25:54.08 Yes, those are the verses I was thinking. 00:25:54.12\00:25:55.45 Yeah. 00:25:55.48\00:25:56.82 I was thinking of those verses, that's why I said, 00:25:56.85\00:25:58.19 hey, wait a minute, are you reading my mind. 00:25:58.22\00:26:00.72 Yeah, those verses... 00:26:00.76\00:26:02.09 Yes, yes. 00:26:02.12\00:26:03.46 Because they all fit together. 00:26:03.49\00:26:04.83 Yes. Yeah. 00:26:04.86\00:26:06.19 And so God did lay down his life for us. 00:26:06.23\00:26:10.70 So what about humans? 00:26:10.73\00:26:14.04 That leads to that other verse that John 15-13? 00:26:14.07\00:26:16.87 Yes. 00:26:16.91\00:26:18.24 That says, "Greater love has no one than this, 00:26:18.27\00:26:21.51 than to lay down one's life for his friends." 00:26:21.54\00:26:25.41 God does, all we can do is lay down our life 00:26:25.45\00:26:27.98 for our friends or our loved one. 00:26:28.02\00:26:29.85 But God laid down His life for His enemies. 00:26:29.88\00:26:33.49 That's right. Yeah. 00:26:33.52\00:26:34.86 For those who didn't love Him, 00:26:34.89\00:26:36.56 for those He knew were never going to love Him. 00:26:36.59\00:26:39.89 But also, because we were created 00:26:39.93\00:26:42.06 because God's love wanted to give. 00:26:42.10\00:26:45.20 Love wants to give. 00:26:45.23\00:26:46.57 One, it wants you to encompass and give out there. 00:26:46.60\00:26:50.67 So God created us to share His love with Him. 00:26:50.71\00:26:55.18 So but it has to be free, too. 00:26:55.21\00:26:57.21 It has to be free choice. No other way. 00:26:57.25\00:27:00.98 What's the beautiful thing about that, too, 00:27:01.02\00:27:02.95 is have you ever noticed that when you do something, 00:27:02.98\00:27:05.29 let's say maybe you're feeding the homeless, 00:27:05.32\00:27:07.16 or maybe you're going into prison, 00:27:07.19\00:27:08.56 and you're doing prison ministry, 00:27:08.59\00:27:09.92 and you go to be a blessing, 00:27:09.96\00:27:11.63 but you come out of there feeling more blessed 00:27:11.66\00:27:14.00 than when you went in there? 00:27:14.03\00:27:15.73 Like it's, it's incredible how that love, 00:27:15.76\00:27:19.30 and all of that stuff works. 00:27:19.33\00:27:20.67 I mean, it's absolutely amazing. 00:27:20.70\00:27:23.24 When you give love, it grows you. 00:27:23.27\00:27:25.87 And that's what we are created for. 00:27:25.91\00:27:27.24 We are created in God's image, God is love. 00:27:27.28\00:27:29.28 So we're really being restored. 00:27:29.31\00:27:30.78 You know, we think 00:27:30.81\00:27:32.15 that we want to hold on to bitterness 00:27:32.18\00:27:35.35 or hatred or unforgiveness, 00:27:35.38\00:27:36.82 you know, because that's, you know, 00:27:36.85\00:27:38.52 just like, but really, that's hurting us. 00:27:38.55\00:27:41.99 We weren't created to hold on to that kind of stuff. 00:27:42.02\00:27:44.23 God doesn't hold on to it. 00:27:44.26\00:27:45.59 He wants us to be free from that. 00:27:45.63\00:27:47.56 Job was captive to that. 00:27:47.60\00:27:49.60 And he when he prayed for his miserable comforter, 00:27:49.63\00:27:51.67 worthless physician friends, he was freed from that, 00:27:51.70\00:27:55.50 and everything was restored to him. 00:27:55.54\00:27:57.31 And it's the same with us. 00:27:57.34\00:27:58.67 You know, we go through some struggles in life. 00:27:58.71\00:28:00.54 People mistreat us, whatever it is, 00:28:00.58\00:28:02.64 and we want to hold a grudge and God says, 00:28:02.68\00:28:04.41 "No, no, no, I don't hold a grudge. 00:28:04.45\00:28:05.78 You don't hold a grudge. 00:28:05.81\00:28:07.15 You'll be returned to who I created you to be. 00:28:07.18\00:28:10.05 Why do we want to hold on to a grudge? 00:28:10.09\00:28:12.45 Why do we want to hold on to that stuff? 00:28:12.49\00:28:14.26 What is it we're really looking for? 00:28:14.29\00:28:16.52 We want justice. 00:28:16.56\00:28:18.93 And where does justice lie really? 00:28:18.96\00:28:21.36 Good point. 00:28:21.40\00:28:22.73 It lies with God. Yeah, Romans 13. 00:28:22.76\00:28:24.93 He, God is the only one. 00:28:24.97\00:28:26.37 So if you need justice for pain, 00:28:26.40\00:28:28.80 and that's what's separating you from God's love 00:28:28.84\00:28:31.51 is that you need justice. 00:28:31.54\00:28:33.61 If you can let go of that, and give it to God, 00:28:33.64\00:28:37.65 He will get justice for you. 00:28:37.68\00:28:39.25 You may not see it, it may not be here and now. 00:28:39.28\00:28:41.92 But then you get to experience His love. 00:28:41.95\00:28:45.65 And that will heal that pain if you allow it to happen. 00:28:45.69\00:28:49.62 Yeah, Romans 12:19. 00:28:49.66\00:28:50.99 I say Romans 12, "Vengeance is Mine, 00:28:51.03\00:28:52.63 I will repay says the Lord. 00:28:52.66\00:28:54.00 So if your enemy is hungry, feed them, 00:28:54.03\00:28:55.36 if he's thirsty, give him water to drink." 00:28:55.40\00:28:57.13 Because we do hunger. 00:28:57.17\00:28:58.50 You know, you talked about healing 00:28:58.53\00:28:59.87 that brings healing, that brings healing to allow, 00:28:59.90\00:29:03.77 now I'm gonna say that way, 00:29:03.81\00:29:05.17 to allow God's forgiving love to flow through us 00:29:05.21\00:29:09.88 so that we can forgive others. 00:29:09.91\00:29:11.75 Because the idea of forgiving others 00:29:11.78\00:29:13.85 is difficult for us humans. 00:29:13.88\00:29:15.65 It's difficult, because there's the pain 00:29:15.68\00:29:18.25 of whatever happened, whatever was said. 00:29:18.29\00:29:21.26 Or perhaps somebody didn't appreciate something 00:29:21.29\00:29:23.46 you've done, that is painful. 00:29:23.49\00:29:27.96 And to let go of the pain and say, 00:29:28.00\00:29:29.86 yes, Lord, I'm willing to let your forgiving love 00:29:29.90\00:29:34.14 flow through me to forgive that other person. 00:29:34.17\00:29:37.44 And, you know, sometimes you have to forgive people. 00:29:37.47\00:29:40.98 Over and over. Yes, to forgive people. 00:29:41.01\00:29:43.38 But also there's the, 00:29:43.41\00:29:44.75 you know, sometimes maybe you have done wrong, 00:29:44.78\00:29:46.98 and you go to someone and you say, 00:29:47.02\00:29:49.68 you know, I'm sorry for what I've done. 00:29:49.72\00:29:51.95 Please forgive me. 00:29:51.99\00:29:53.32 And maybe that person reacts well, I'm not forgiving you. 00:29:53.36\00:29:55.82 I don't know if you, that has ever happened to you. 00:29:55.86\00:29:57.49 I'm not forgiving you. 00:29:57.53\00:29:58.86 You need to learn a lesson from this. 00:29:58.89\00:30:00.26 And then you feel like, 00:30:00.30\00:30:01.63 oh, I've come to this person to ask for forgiveness. 00:30:01.66\00:30:05.03 We need to understand that God forgives us. 00:30:05.07\00:30:07.34 And that has the greater value. 00:30:07.37\00:30:09.70 And even though the person chooses not to forgive us, 00:30:09.74\00:30:12.61 we have done what we are supposed to do. 00:30:12.64\00:30:14.14 Yeah. 00:30:14.18\00:30:15.51 We have come to the person and said, 00:30:15.54\00:30:17.18 you know, forgive me for what I have done. 00:30:17.21\00:30:19.58 And there's the aspect of we need to let allow God 00:30:19.61\00:30:24.72 to heal us, to heal us, 00:30:24.75\00:30:26.89 even when we feel that the person didn't react 00:30:26.92\00:30:30.03 the way I expected that person to react. 00:30:30.06\00:30:32.93 Even, you know, there's pain. 00:30:32.96\00:30:34.33 Oh, go ahead, I'm sorry. 00:30:34.36\00:30:35.86 There is this sentence in the book Desire of Ages, 00:30:35.90\00:30:39.83 that says, 00:30:39.87\00:30:42.00 "Only by love is love begotten." 00:30:42.04\00:30:45.04 Awakened. 00:30:45.07\00:30:46.41 Awakened. That's right. 00:30:46.44\00:30:47.78 "Only by love is love awakened." 00:30:47.81\00:30:49.14 Correct, you remember that. Very good. 00:30:49.18\00:30:50.75 So only by love is love awakened. 00:30:50.78\00:30:52.81 So if you really want to communicate love to someone, 00:30:52.85\00:30:57.39 you need to show love. 00:30:57.42\00:30:59.09 And that God does that with us. 00:30:59.12\00:31:00.46 Yeah. 00:31:00.49\00:31:01.82 He shows us His love to awaken love in us for Him. 00:31:01.86\00:31:06.03 And He shows this love, 00:31:06.06\00:31:07.63 like I said before, over and over and over again. 00:31:07.66\00:31:10.33 And if you don't see that over and over again, 00:31:10.37\00:31:12.40 just stop a moment and think about your day, 00:31:12.43\00:31:15.04 how many blessings you have received, 00:31:15.07\00:31:16.60 because some people sometimes they don't seem 00:31:16.64\00:31:18.81 to see the blessings. 00:31:18.84\00:31:20.24 But even the very fact that you, 00:31:20.28\00:31:21.81 you're even able to see, to hear, to breathe, 00:31:21.84\00:31:26.41 your heart is beating, 00:31:26.45\00:31:27.82 those are blessings of the Lord. 00:31:27.85\00:31:29.52 Yes. 00:31:29.55\00:31:30.89 You know, I think that sometimes 00:31:30.92\00:31:32.25 there's a disconnect between man and God 00:31:32.29\00:31:37.16 due to the misrepresentation of His character. 00:31:37.19\00:31:40.90 And so when you have a distorted image 00:31:40.93\00:31:42.96 of who God is, 00:31:43.00\00:31:45.43 and you don't see how much He really loves us, 00:31:45.47\00:31:49.00 and then you know, people going the opposite direction. 00:31:49.04\00:31:52.77 But that's one of the things 00:31:52.81\00:31:54.14 with Salvation in Symbols and Signs 00:31:54.18\00:31:55.78 that I love is that its revelation 00:31:55.81\00:31:59.18 has been painted as a love story. 00:31:59.21\00:32:02.25 And that has, 00:32:02.28\00:32:04.15 you know, we've heard from viewers and stuff, 00:32:04.19\00:32:05.92 and that has really changed people's perception, 00:32:05.95\00:32:09.22 you know, and praise God for that. 00:32:09.26\00:32:11.19 You know, even, we're talking about 00:32:11.23\00:32:14.13 principles here, and these principles apply. 00:32:14.16\00:32:18.07 Even there are people out there who it can be very hard. 00:32:18.10\00:32:22.70 We've talked about forgiveness in many ways. 00:32:22.74\00:32:24.64 But there are people out there 00:32:24.67\00:32:26.01 that have been hurt in illegal ways are very, 00:32:26.04\00:32:30.78 they deserve justice. 00:32:30.81\00:32:34.25 And to forgive someone who maybe is not a Christian, 00:32:34.28\00:32:37.15 that maybe is a criminal 00:32:37.19\00:32:39.02 and has hurt you in a criminal way, 00:32:39.05\00:32:41.39 to be able to forgive someone like that. 00:32:41.42\00:32:44.86 These principles still are effective, 00:32:44.89\00:32:49.03 and they still work. 00:32:49.06\00:32:50.60 God will bring healing to you, 00:32:50.63\00:32:52.50 even if you forgive someone 00:32:52.53\00:32:53.87 who does not deserve your forgiveness. 00:32:53.90\00:32:57.34 The forgiveness is healing you, 00:32:57.37\00:33:00.24 and bringing your love relationship 00:33:00.28\00:33:02.24 back in light line with God, 00:33:02.28\00:33:04.81 and let God take care of the bad person. 00:33:04.85\00:33:09.18 You may not be able to fix that person 00:33:09.22\00:33:10.95 or you may not be able to. 00:33:10.99\00:33:13.25 They may not be a Christian, but let God bring you justice. 00:33:13.29\00:33:16.42 Let God have justice, whether you see it or not. 00:33:16.46\00:33:19.29 Those principles that you've all been talking about, 00:33:19.33\00:33:22.13 still apply in those bad cases. 00:33:22.16\00:33:26.03 Yeah, let's talk about that just a little bit more, can we? 00:33:26.07\00:33:28.27 So justice is a characteristic of God's love. 00:33:28.30\00:33:32.81 Love and justice aren't opposites, right? 00:33:32.84\00:33:35.01 No. Justice is part of God's love. 00:33:35.04\00:33:37.18 So there's two aspects that God has done, 00:33:37.21\00:33:39.58 I think in calling us to forgive. 00:33:39.61\00:33:41.92 One of the things He's done is 00:33:41.95\00:33:43.28 He's called us to forgive people personally, 00:33:43.32\00:33:44.69 but He's put the powers of this earth 00:33:44.72\00:33:47.46 in charge of justice for now. 00:33:47.49\00:33:49.26 So Romans 13 says, you know, fear the government, 00:33:49.29\00:33:52.19 fear the sword, fear those are set over you 00:33:52.23\00:33:55.16 because they are, 00:33:55.20\00:33:56.97 they are sort of justice for the evildoer. 00:33:57.00\00:33:59.73 And it's not perfect, of course, 00:33:59.77\00:34:01.50 but to give someone 00:34:01.54\00:34:02.87 who has committed a crime against you 00:34:02.90\00:34:04.64 doesn't mean that they shouldn't be prosecuted. 00:34:04.67\00:34:06.14 Oh, no. 00:34:06.17\00:34:07.51 Doesn't mean there shouldn't be a consequence. 00:34:07.54\00:34:09.08 That's the first thing we want to communicate to our viewers. 00:34:09.11\00:34:11.18 And then the second thing is, 00:34:11.21\00:34:13.01 God has actually put a hold on His justice. 00:34:13.05\00:34:17.92 And He's asking us to be like Him, 00:34:17.95\00:34:19.82 He's asking us to follow Him. 00:34:19.85\00:34:21.22 So if God is holding back His justice for now, 00:34:21.26\00:34:25.03 and then we, but we're saying, 00:34:25.06\00:34:26.39 "Well, I'm not gonna hold back my justice." 00:34:26.43\00:34:27.76 You see what I'm saying, well, I'll be like Him. 00:34:27.80\00:34:29.53 So God is saying, now I'm holding back My justice, 00:34:29.56\00:34:31.67 that's going to be a Day of Reckoning, 00:34:31.70\00:34:33.03 there's going to be a Day of Judgment, 00:34:33.07\00:34:34.40 there's going to be a Day of Recompense. 00:34:34.44\00:34:35.77 Right. I'll take care of that. 00:34:35.80\00:34:37.27 You, for now, yeah, the civil powers of the earth 00:34:37.31\00:34:40.41 have and they may or may not do what they need to do. 00:34:40.44\00:34:43.58 But you personally forgive, get cleansed from that. 00:34:43.61\00:34:47.35 And then trust me, 00:34:47.38\00:34:48.72 because at the end, 00:34:48.75\00:34:50.09 I'm going to make everything right. 00:34:50.12\00:34:51.45 Thank you. That was excellent. 00:34:51.49\00:34:52.89 Yes. Yeah, that was... 00:34:52.92\00:34:54.26 You expressed what I'm thinking. 00:34:54.29\00:34:56.02 Yes. You got me going. 00:34:56.06\00:34:58.46 Thank you. 00:34:58.49\00:35:00.73 You know, we all need some mercy, 00:35:00.76\00:35:02.46 we all need mercy. 00:35:02.50\00:35:04.53 Deuteronomy, 7:9 says, 00:35:04.57\00:35:06.94 "Therefore know that the Lord your God, 00:35:06.97\00:35:10.14 He is God, the faithful God 00:35:10.17\00:35:12.61 who keeps covenant and mercy for a thousand generations 00:35:12.64\00:35:16.61 with those who love Him and keep His command." 00:35:16.64\00:35:21.65 He's fair, He's just, He's loving, 00:35:21.68\00:35:25.75 He's forgiving. 00:35:25.79\00:35:27.86 God is amazing, simply put, yes. 00:35:27.89\00:35:32.59 And I think that this was actually a verse 00:35:32.63\00:35:34.66 I was going to look at what it was in Exodus, 00:35:34.70\00:35:36.56 because this is a reiteration of the principles of God's law. 00:35:36.60\00:35:42.17 In the very next verse, he says, 00:35:42.20\00:35:43.54 "And repayeth them that hate him to their face, 00:35:43.57\00:35:47.34 to destroy them: 00:35:47.38\00:35:49.24 he will not be slack to him that hateth him, 00:35:49.28\00:35:51.55 he will repay him to his face." 00:35:51.58\00:35:53.85 In other words, there's the justice, 00:35:53.88\00:35:56.15 but God's the one that does it. 00:35:56.18\00:35:57.69 Just a quick story about this, a biblical story. 00:35:57.72\00:36:00.36 You know, there was a man 00:36:00.39\00:36:01.72 that was treated very unjustly in the Bible, 00:36:01.76\00:36:03.09 many people were, 00:36:03.12\00:36:04.46 but I'm thinking of David specifically, 00:36:04.49\00:36:05.83 and Saul, the way Saul treated and tried to kill him. 00:36:05.86\00:36:08.20 And David took off and he was running from Saul. 00:36:08.23\00:36:10.33 It was not a week, it was not a month, 00:36:10.37\00:36:12.03 it was years. 00:36:12.07\00:36:14.30 And in one of the situations, 00:36:14.34\00:36:16.17 David had an opportunity to kill Saul 00:36:16.20\00:36:18.87 and his army guys, 00:36:18.91\00:36:21.04 his buddies are like, do it, do it. 00:36:21.08\00:36:22.84 Just say the word. 00:36:22.88\00:36:24.28 Yeah, I'll put the sword through him. 00:36:24.31\00:36:25.91 And I won't have to do it twice, just one. 00:36:25.95\00:36:28.02 And David said, "No, I'm not going to do that." 00:36:28.05\00:36:30.19 Because between the time that Saul was mistreating him, 00:36:30.22\00:36:32.79 and the time that he had the opportunity 00:36:32.82\00:36:34.42 to revenge himself of, of Saul, 00:36:34.46\00:36:36.52 David had processed his anger. 00:36:36.56\00:36:38.33 He processed all the bitterness and all the feelings 00:36:38.36\00:36:41.66 that the emotions that he had. 00:36:41.70\00:36:43.23 And that's why when you read the Psalms, 00:36:43.26\00:36:44.87 and if you want to read these, the specific Psalm 00:36:44.90\00:36:47.27 you want to read, for those who are listening 00:36:47.30\00:36:49.00 is Psalm 59. 00:36:49.04\00:36:50.44 That is a Psalm that specifically talks about 00:36:50.47\00:36:52.97 when David was running from Saul. 00:36:53.01\00:36:55.04 And in that Psalm, you know, you read some of the Psalms, 00:36:55.08\00:36:57.35 and you see David, he's just like, he's losing it. 00:36:57.38\00:37:00.08 He's saying stuff and you're like, 00:37:00.12\00:37:01.55 Whoa, this was a man after God's own heart. 00:37:01.58\00:37:03.55 He's just like, angry, you know, destroy them, 00:37:03.59\00:37:06.76 wipe them out, just get them. 00:37:06.79\00:37:08.29 And you're thinking, whoa, 00:37:08.32\00:37:09.79 but that was how David processed his anger. 00:37:09.82\00:37:12.76 And when he was done processing his anger, 00:37:12.79\00:37:15.20 his actions were actions of mercy, of kindness, 00:37:15.23\00:37:18.60 of forgiveness and acceptance. 00:37:18.63\00:37:20.94 Every single time he processed 00:37:20.97\00:37:23.14 he was able to come out on the other end, 00:37:23.17\00:37:24.87 surprisingly not only his men, 00:37:24.91\00:37:26.47 what do you mean though, but himself, 00:37:26.51\00:37:28.31 and of course, they have the universe. 00:37:28.34\00:37:30.08 So we can't just say, okay, God's gonna take care of it. 00:37:30.11\00:37:32.31 I've got these fools. I'm just gonna stuff them down. 00:37:32.35\00:37:34.82 No, we have to process to God. 00:37:34.85\00:37:36.69 That's why Ephesians 4:26, says, 00:37:36.72\00:37:40.69 "Be angry and sin not." 00:37:40.72\00:37:42.32 God can handle it. 00:37:42.36\00:37:43.69 Don't let the sun go down in your wrath. 00:37:43.73\00:37:45.39 God can take all of our emotion. 00:37:45.43\00:37:47.53 He is a big God, and He's not going to be... 00:37:47.56\00:37:50.67 He is not going to get mad at you for being angry. 00:37:50.70\00:37:53.94 He's not going to get mad at you 00:37:53.97\00:37:55.67 even when you're saying, 00:37:55.70\00:37:57.04 God, how come You're not fixing this? 00:37:57.07\00:37:58.97 And sometimes that's how we feel, 00:37:59.01\00:38:00.84 just like, Lord, You need to fix this right now. 00:38:00.88\00:38:03.35 This isn't right, this isn't fair. 00:38:03.38\00:38:05.18 And we can get very angry. 00:38:05.21\00:38:06.92 And maybe we're not the ones that are hurt. 00:38:06.95\00:38:08.78 Some things don't make sense. 00:38:08.82\00:38:10.45 We've had things happen around here 00:38:10.49\00:38:12.12 that didn't, the loss of life or something, 00:38:12.15\00:38:14.86 it doesn't make sense. 00:38:14.89\00:38:16.32 And you can get very angry at God 00:38:16.36\00:38:19.16 for something that you don't understand, 00:38:19.19\00:38:20.86 it doesn't make any sense. 00:38:20.90\00:38:22.23 God can handle that. 00:38:22.26\00:38:23.83 Let Him take that emotion 00:38:23.87\00:38:25.97 and let Him take you to a healing place. 00:38:26.00\00:38:29.07 And with that, I'm glad that you brought that up, 00:38:29.10\00:38:31.14 with that though, we need to put the credit 00:38:31.17\00:38:33.24 where it's due to the enemy for destroying those lives. 00:38:33.27\00:38:36.64 He's out to kill and all of that stuff. 00:38:36.68\00:38:38.71 A lot of times we try and blame God, 00:38:38.75\00:38:40.75 you know, even with insurance companies, right? 00:38:40.78\00:38:43.35 These are acts of God, 00:38:43.39\00:38:45.05 you know, when things are destroyed, 00:38:45.09\00:38:47.06 and all this other stuff. 00:38:47.09\00:38:49.49 The enemy wants to destroy us. 00:38:49.52\00:38:51.93 God wants to save us, like He wants us to be saved. 00:38:51.96\00:38:56.46 Death and sin and all of that stuff 00:38:56.50\00:38:58.73 were never in His initial plan for us, 00:38:58.77\00:39:02.00 you know, but He loves us enough 00:39:02.04\00:39:04.04 to allow us to make the choice. 00:39:04.07\00:39:07.04 And we chose wrong, 00:39:07.08\00:39:08.41 you know, human beings chose wrong 00:39:08.44\00:39:10.31 but yet, in His everlasting love for us, 00:39:10.35\00:39:14.62 He made a way for us 00:39:14.65\00:39:17.19 to have everlasting life through Jesus Christ. 00:39:17.22\00:39:19.89 So, yeah, yeah. 00:39:19.92\00:39:22.36 That's just powerful. 00:39:22.39\00:39:25.19 And He gives us guidelines. 00:39:25.23\00:39:27.76 You've talked about the Ten Commandments 00:39:27.80\00:39:29.16 a little bit. 00:39:29.20\00:39:30.53 To me, I know a lot of people look at the Ten Commandments. 00:39:30.57\00:39:33.27 To me, that is God's love. 00:39:33.30\00:39:35.64 It's His lovingkindness 00:39:35.67\00:39:37.27 because it gives me complete freedom. 00:39:37.31\00:39:39.77 To me, if I live within those guidelines, 00:39:39.81\00:39:44.41 I have all the freedom in the world 00:39:44.45\00:39:46.48 and He will rise me up, I can accomplish anything, 00:39:46.51\00:39:49.35 I can do anything. 00:39:49.38\00:39:50.72 I will be free of all kinds of stuff. 00:39:50.75\00:39:54.62 Satan is the one who wants to hold us down 00:39:54.66\00:39:57.89 and he binds us by us choosing to live outside 00:39:57.93\00:40:02.26 those wonderful boundaries 00:40:02.30\00:40:04.73 that keeps all the bad stuff out. 00:40:04.77\00:40:06.47 Yeah. 00:40:06.50\00:40:07.84 Satan throws stuff in. 00:40:07.87\00:40:09.87 Even if you live by God's beautiful law, 00:40:09.90\00:40:13.74 Satan, we cannot leave Satan 00:40:13.78\00:40:15.84 out of his anger and destruction 00:40:15.88\00:40:19.75 and our own bad choices. 00:40:19.78\00:40:21.92 Yeah, yeah. 00:40:21.95\00:40:23.28 Pastor Rafferty, you have Romans 8:37-39. 00:40:23.32\00:40:28.92 Romans 8:37-39. All right. 00:40:28.96\00:40:32.93 So this is part of a section of God's love, 00:40:32.96\00:40:37.97 38 and 39, or 37 to 39 says, 00:40:38.00\00:40:42.54 "Nay, in all these things 00:40:42.57\00:40:44.11 we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. 00:40:44.14\00:40:47.78 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, 00:40:47.81\00:40:50.95 nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, 00:40:50.98\00:40:53.28 nor things present, nor things to come, 00:40:53.31\00:40:55.45 nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, 00:40:55.48\00:40:59.32 shall be able to separate us from the love of God, 00:40:59.35\00:41:02.22 which is in Christ Jesus our Lord." 00:41:02.26\00:41:05.13 I really think these verses have to be understood, 00:41:05.16\00:41:08.56 first and foremost in the way that God looks at us. 00:41:08.60\00:41:11.80 But they're also to be understood 00:41:11.83\00:41:13.17 in the way that we look at God. 00:41:13.20\00:41:14.54 So God looks at, you know, He's looking at us, 00:41:14.57\00:41:16.60 and we need to recognize that nothing's going to separate us 00:41:16.64\00:41:19.57 from His love, from His perspective, 00:41:19.61\00:41:21.31 nothing's going to separate us. 00:41:21.34\00:41:23.18 And then we need to look back and say, 00:41:23.21\00:41:24.58 you know, I'm not gonna let anything separate you 00:41:24.61\00:41:26.65 from my love. 00:41:26.68\00:41:28.02 I'm not gonna let anything separate, 00:41:28.05\00:41:29.38 because you have committed to me 00:41:29.42\00:41:31.89 that nothing's going to separate you. 00:41:31.92\00:41:33.39 And so I'm committing back to you 00:41:33.42\00:41:34.82 that nothing's going to separate me. 00:41:34.86\00:41:36.39 It's kind of like this wedding, 00:41:36.42\00:41:37.76 you know, commitment vow we make to God, 00:41:37.79\00:41:40.43 this revelation, you know, this bride and bridegroom 00:41:40.46\00:41:43.57 relationship that we're stepping into. 00:41:43.60\00:41:46.50 Yeah, that's beautiful. 00:41:46.53\00:41:47.90 So even when we think 00:41:47.94\00:41:49.27 we've separated ourselves from God, 00:41:49.30\00:41:50.71 because we stepped away, 00:41:50.74\00:41:53.24 His love comes right back on us. 00:41:53.27\00:41:56.41 So we're only fooling ourselves 00:41:56.44\00:41:59.71 when we think we separate ourselves 00:41:59.75\00:42:01.32 from God's love. 00:42:01.35\00:42:02.72 Because we don't, it's following us, 00:42:02.75\00:42:04.79 whether we want it or not. 00:42:04.82\00:42:06.72 That's right. That's right. 00:42:06.76\00:42:08.09 This is, you know, a reiteration of something 00:42:08.12\00:42:12.19 we have already said before. 00:42:12.23\00:42:14.40 And that is the fact that 00:42:14.43\00:42:16.13 it doesn't matter how much evil, 00:42:16.16\00:42:17.93 wickedness you have done, 00:42:17.97\00:42:20.10 it does not change God's love toward us. 00:42:20.14\00:42:22.70 And this is why it says here that 00:42:22.74\00:42:25.51 nothing shall be able to separate us 00:42:25.54\00:42:27.88 from the love of God. 00:42:27.91\00:42:29.24 His love will continue to be eternal for us. 00:42:29.28\00:42:32.85 And that is, you know, that is mercy beyond 00:42:32.88\00:42:36.52 our understanding again, 00:42:36.55\00:42:37.99 because notice this scripture, 00:42:38.02\00:42:41.32 and it gives you the dimensions. 00:42:41.36\00:42:46.13 They have no bounds, 00:42:46.16\00:42:47.60 it talks about height, depth, and what else? 00:42:47.63\00:42:50.30 Principalities, powers. 00:42:50.33\00:42:51.90 No, it's an all encompassing love, 00:42:51.93\00:42:55.30 and it's just incredible. 00:42:55.34\00:42:58.21 I remember a story that somebody, 00:42:58.24\00:43:00.14 I think it was somebody on 3ABN 00:43:00.18\00:43:01.54 many, many years ago, that said, 00:43:01.58\00:43:03.61 "Lord, I don't want a mansion, 00:43:03.65\00:43:05.48 just give me a little shack somewhere made out of wood." 00:43:05.51\00:43:08.32 You know, because they think I've just been too evil. 00:43:08.35\00:43:10.99 I just want a little shack. I just want to be there. 00:43:11.02\00:43:13.32 But God's love is, is for us. 00:43:13.36\00:43:17.26 There's a scripture that is it John 17, 00:43:17.29\00:43:20.16 where it says that God loves us as much as He loves His Son. 00:43:20.20\00:43:24.83 What? 00:43:24.87\00:43:26.23 Is that something so much to take in, 00:43:26.27\00:43:28.90 so much to take in, incredible. 00:43:28.94\00:43:30.94 Because God focuses on the person He created, 00:43:30.97\00:43:35.18 not your actions. 00:43:35.21\00:43:37.65 And He always views us as where did you, 00:43:37.68\00:43:41.95 somebody said up in potential, your potential, 00:43:41.98\00:43:45.02 your possibilities in Christ. 00:43:45.05\00:43:48.36 So Jesus sees us through the eyes 00:43:48.39\00:43:51.49 of His creation of who He made us to be. 00:43:51.53\00:43:55.00 And I think if we understand that, 00:43:55.03\00:43:57.57 we can allow ourselves to love back 00:43:57.60\00:44:01.54 and maybe understand a little bit of that love 00:44:01.57\00:44:04.21 that He's looking at me 00:44:04.24\00:44:06.47 through His rose colored glasses, 00:44:06.51\00:44:09.38 as we would say on earth, 00:44:09.41\00:44:11.18 but He sees us in reality 00:44:11.21\00:44:12.88 of who we really could be. 00:44:12.91\00:44:14.62 And that's what He's drawing and loving 00:44:14.65\00:44:17.65 and trying to bring out in us 00:44:17.69\00:44:20.16 is what He created us to be. 00:44:20.19\00:44:22.66 And He's seen that, He's seen that produced 00:44:22.69\00:44:25.63 over and over again. 00:44:25.66\00:44:27.23 All through the Bible we see people who were rascals, 00:44:27.26\00:44:30.53 Manasseh, you know, all of these different ones, 00:44:30.57\00:44:33.07 Nebuchadnezzar, I mean, he's ready to kill 00:44:33.10\00:44:34.64 his whole cabinet. 00:44:34.67\00:44:36.00 Manasseh was the most wicked king 00:44:36.04\00:44:37.37 that you know reigned in Israel. 00:44:37.41\00:44:39.37 And you go through the New Testament, 00:44:39.41\00:44:41.41 you see the same thing taking place 00:44:41.44\00:44:42.94 over and over again, 00:44:42.98\00:44:44.31 where God is just transforming the disciples. 00:44:44.35\00:44:46.05 Those guys didn't have their act together. 00:44:46.08\00:44:47.45 Look at Peter, at most times was cursing. 00:44:47.48\00:44:50.39 So Paul, he's persecuting the church 00:44:50.42\00:44:54.66 and hailing them off to jail and to death, 00:44:54.69\00:44:56.83 and yet they're transformed. 00:44:56.86\00:44:58.19 And so, of course, God see, He knows it works. 00:44:58.23\00:45:00.93 He sees it. 00:45:00.96\00:45:02.30 And so He looks at you, He looks at me and He says, 00:45:02.33\00:45:03.77 you know what? 00:45:03.80\00:45:05.13 Just where we came from, where we were, 00:45:05.17\00:45:07.34 we talked about being in jail 00:45:07.37\00:45:08.70 and how that taught us a little lesson, you know? 00:45:08.74\00:45:10.41 And so there's viewers out there 00:45:10.44\00:45:11.77 and they're thinking, well, you know, 00:45:11.81\00:45:13.17 you guys, you're all Christians, 00:45:13.21\00:45:14.61 and you're all believers, 00:45:14.64\00:45:15.98 and you're wearing these nice clothes 00:45:16.01\00:45:17.35 and all up there. 00:45:17.38\00:45:18.71 No, you don't understand. 00:45:18.75\00:45:20.08 We are the continuation of the faith 00:45:20.12\00:45:22.18 that God has manifested toward humanity, 00:45:22.22\00:45:24.79 all through the ages. 00:45:24.82\00:45:26.25 And the potential He sees in humanity 00:45:26.29\00:45:28.56 is the same potential He saw in Nebuchadnezzar, 00:45:28.59\00:45:30.56 the same potential He saw in Manasseh, 00:45:30.59\00:45:32.29 the same potentially He saw in every single one 00:45:32.33\00:45:35.33 of those biblical characters 00:45:35.36\00:45:37.33 that did all those things that we're capable of doing. 00:45:37.37\00:45:40.94 And yet on the other end 00:45:40.97\00:45:42.30 when the love of God came into their hearts, 00:45:42.34\00:45:44.11 transformation took place. 00:45:44.14\00:45:45.77 So He's got evidence for His faith 00:45:45.81\00:45:47.34 that He manifest toward us. 00:45:47.38\00:45:48.88 He knows it works. 00:45:48.91\00:45:50.31 Yes. That's right. 00:45:50.35\00:45:51.68 And it's beautiful. 00:45:51.71\00:45:53.15 I want to hear this verse, Pastor Dinzey, 00:45:53.18\00:45:55.22 you have this verse right here is Isaiah 54:10. 00:45:55.25\00:45:59.02 Isaiah 54:10, 00:45:59.05\00:46:01.62 "For the mountains shall depart and the hills be removed, 00:46:01.66\00:46:06.49 but My kindness shall not depart from you, 00:46:06.53\00:46:09.76 nor shall My covenant of peace be removed, 00:46:09.80\00:46:13.57 says the Lord, who has mercy on you." 00:46:13.60\00:46:17.01 Wow! This is so much. 00:46:17.04\00:46:20.08 This is good news. 00:46:20.11\00:46:21.44 You know, people watch the news. 00:46:21.48\00:46:25.78 I don't know why people watch the news. 00:46:25.81\00:46:27.32 You know, we heard bad news yesterday, 00:46:27.35\00:46:28.68 the day before. 00:46:28.72\00:46:30.05 Let's watch it again to see if there's something. 00:46:30.09\00:46:31.49 No, it's bad news, God has the good news. 00:46:31.52\00:46:34.12 Yes. 00:46:34.16\00:46:35.49 And this is another one of those verses that says, 00:46:35.52\00:46:37.23 it's full packed, good news. 00:46:37.26\00:46:41.26 The mountains can depart, the hills can be removed, 00:46:41.30\00:46:43.70 but My kindness shall not depart from you. 00:46:43.73\00:46:45.73 Yeah. 00:46:45.77\00:46:47.10 And then he finds it, says the Lord, 00:46:47.14\00:46:49.84 who has mercy upon you. 00:46:49.87\00:46:51.21 Thank You, Lord. I love that. 00:46:51.24\00:46:52.81 And then He signs it. 00:46:52.84\00:46:54.18 Yes. He signs it. 00:46:54.21\00:46:55.54 Yeah. Yeah, that's beautiful. 00:46:55.58\00:46:56.91 That's good. 00:46:56.95\00:46:58.28 The Psalm 63:3. 00:46:58.31\00:47:00.15 Oh, yeah. 00:47:00.18\00:47:02.05 I love this, Psalm 63:3. 00:47:02.08\00:47:04.62 "Because Your lovingkindness is better than life, 00:47:04.65\00:47:08.99 my lips shall praise you." 00:47:09.02\00:47:11.66 I didn't always feel that way. 00:47:11.69\00:47:13.26 I didn't live that way. 00:47:13.29\00:47:14.63 But because there was all this, 00:47:14.66\00:47:18.33 if I looked at myself through my own eyes, 00:47:18.37\00:47:20.34 I'd go dig a hole and bury myself. 00:47:20.37\00:47:22.40 It's ugly. 00:47:22.44\00:47:23.84 But if I look at myself through God's eyes, 00:47:23.87\00:47:26.88 if I allow God to live within me, 00:47:26.91\00:47:29.78 and to flow through me and show me His love, 00:47:29.81\00:47:33.75 then all I can do is praise Him 00:47:33.78\00:47:35.28 because He turned my life around. 00:47:35.32\00:47:37.29 I am not. 00:47:37.32\00:47:39.19 He took all the... 00:47:39.22\00:47:41.12 I'm not perfect yet, working on it. 00:47:41.16\00:47:43.53 But He took the ugly, He took the blackness, 00:47:43.56\00:47:45.69 He took the hopelessness, 00:47:45.73\00:47:47.06 He took, He took all the real evil. 00:47:47.10\00:47:50.70 And it departed from me because I keep my eyes on Him. 00:47:50.73\00:47:55.27 And He flows through me and gives me hope, 00:47:55.30\00:47:58.07 because He tells me like you just said, 00:47:58.11\00:48:01.54 I view you the way I created you to be, 00:48:01.58\00:48:04.51 and I'm going to help you grow to be that way. 00:48:04.55\00:48:08.15 That gives you hope that like, He's never gonna give up on me. 00:48:08.18\00:48:12.55 Yes. 00:48:12.59\00:48:13.92 So then I won't give up on me either. 00:48:13.96\00:48:15.56 And He took away the pride, that's why we say. 00:48:15.59\00:48:17.73 I'm not perfect yet, that's why we say, 00:48:17.76\00:48:19.66 you know, He's gonna finish the work. 00:48:19.69\00:48:21.43 Because we recognize that, you know, within us is that, 00:48:21.46\00:48:25.60 you know, principle that Paul talks about 00:48:25.63\00:48:27.20 in Romans Chapter 7, 00:48:27.24\00:48:28.67 you know, that, 00:48:28.70\00:48:30.04 you know, wants to go as that that famous hymn says, 00:48:30.07\00:48:34.24 you know, prone to wander, 00:48:34.28\00:48:35.84 Lord, I feel it prone to leave the God I love. 00:48:35.88\00:48:38.45 So what does that do for us? 00:48:38.48\00:48:39.95 Well, it causes us 00:48:39.98\00:48:41.32 to be completely reliant on Him all the time, 00:48:41.35\00:48:43.72 and not just say, well, 00:48:43.75\00:48:45.09 you know, Philippians 3, now I've attained, 00:48:45.12\00:48:48.29 no, I pressed toward the mark for the hot prize of heaven, 00:48:48.32\00:48:51.53 not as though I'd attained or already perfect, 00:48:51.56\00:48:53.16 I know that. 00:48:53.19\00:48:54.53 And if I don't know it, praise God, He'll remind me, 00:48:54.56\00:48:57.07 you know, He'll let me sink into that water 00:48:57.10\00:48:58.83 when I take my eyes off Jesus, 00:48:58.87\00:49:00.47 and not follow the Lamb wherever He goes. 00:49:00.50\00:49:02.50 So that's part of the process. 00:49:02.54\00:49:04.57 And we can say that with, with joy, with happiness, 00:49:04.61\00:49:08.11 you know, we don't have to say with trepidation and fear. 00:49:08.14\00:49:10.18 You know, I'm not perfect yet. 00:49:10.21\00:49:11.85 Because that very declaration keeps us dependent on Him, 00:49:11.88\00:49:16.69 trusting Him and looking to Him. 00:49:16.72\00:49:18.19 Every time He helps, 00:49:18.22\00:49:20.59 every time that He works through you 00:49:20.62\00:49:22.26 to overcome something, 00:49:22.29\00:49:23.89 then He reveals something else 00:49:23.93\00:49:25.39 that you weren't aware of. 00:49:25.43\00:49:27.50 So if you think you're perfect, you're not looking, 00:49:27.53\00:49:32.57 you're not listening to God reveal. 00:49:32.60\00:49:34.74 He reveals one thing at a time 00:49:34.77\00:49:36.54 because He doesn't want to overwhelm us. 00:49:36.57\00:49:38.31 Looks like it's the gospel sandwich. 00:49:38.34\00:49:39.84 I don't want to get too distracted here. 00:49:39.87\00:49:41.21 I know we're running out of time, 00:49:41.24\00:49:42.58 but it's the gospel sandwich, 1 John 1:8-10. 00:49:42.61\00:49:48.05 It says in verse 8, you know, 00:49:48.08\00:49:49.42 "If we say we have not sinned, we deceive ourselves." 00:49:49.45\00:49:52.32 Then it said, 00:49:52.35\00:49:53.69 "But if we confess our sins, He's faithful and just." 00:49:53.72\00:49:55.22 If we say we have not sinned, we make Him a liar. 00:49:55.26\00:49:57.89 And the truth is not in us. And the truth is not in. 00:49:57.93\00:49:59.59 But if we confess our sin, 00:49:59.63\00:50:00.96 that's the meat of the sandwich. 00:50:01.00\00:50:02.33 We got two pieces of bread there, right? 00:50:02.36\00:50:03.83 And you don't have a sandwich without the bread, right? 00:50:03.87\00:50:05.40 It's true. 00:50:05.43\00:50:07.24 You got it open face, nothing between. 00:50:07.27\00:50:09.50 And so Job said, 00:50:09.54\00:50:10.87 "If I say I'm perfect, 00:50:10.91\00:50:12.24 my own lips would condemn me." 00:50:12.27\00:50:13.78 Yeah. 00:50:13.81\00:50:15.14 You see, that's the ultimate goal for all of us, 00:50:15.18\00:50:18.18 really, is to recognize our imperfection. 00:50:18.21\00:50:20.38 Why? 00:50:20.42\00:50:21.75 So that we can rely on Christ 00:50:21.78\00:50:23.15 and that, that's where we tend to get away, 00:50:23.18\00:50:25.95 we come to a place we feel like we've attained. 00:50:25.99\00:50:27.62 When Paul was talking about attainments, 00:50:27.66\00:50:28.99 he wasn't talking about his failures, 00:50:29.02\00:50:30.36 he was talking about his positives, 00:50:30.39\00:50:32.39 he was talking about the things that he'd done that were, 00:50:32.43\00:50:34.46 you know, I'm with the tribe of Benjamin, 00:50:34.50\00:50:36.26 circumcised on the eighth day before the law, 00:50:36.30\00:50:38.17 but I put all that behind me, 00:50:38.20\00:50:40.14 because our positive attainments 00:50:40.17\00:50:41.74 can be a hindrance. 00:50:41.77\00:50:43.10 Paul describes them as damaging to us 00:50:43.14\00:50:45.41 in that context, 00:50:45.44\00:50:46.78 not just rubbish but damaging. 00:50:46.81\00:50:48.24 We can be damaged by pride. 00:50:48.28\00:50:49.61 Laodicea is filled with that pride, 00:50:49.64\00:50:52.15 that self sufficiency. 00:50:52.18\00:50:53.58 So Christ is on the outside knocking, 00:50:53.62\00:50:55.52 because when we're not dependent, 00:50:55.55\00:50:57.45 when we feel like we attain that we're perfect, 00:50:57.49\00:51:00.32 we're not having that stuff with Him, 00:51:00.36\00:51:01.69 we're not connecting with Him the way that we need to. 00:51:01.72\00:51:03.96 So when we see our need for Him, 00:51:03.99\00:51:05.86 when we let that love and that, 00:51:05.89\00:51:08.86 let that lovingkindness and mercy pull us 00:51:08.90\00:51:11.93 and we lean on Him totally, 00:51:11.97\00:51:13.90 and recognize our need of that love. 00:51:13.94\00:51:16.84 Then we grow and He builds us and we can, 00:51:16.87\00:51:20.48 I can, I can live with my shortcomings 00:51:20.51\00:51:24.45 because I know He's working on them. 00:51:24.48\00:51:26.75 I know that I'm growing in Him. 00:51:26.78\00:51:29.68 So I don't hide from God 00:51:29.72\00:51:31.39 when He shows me where I need to grow, 00:51:31.42\00:51:34.62 because I know His love. 00:51:34.66\00:51:36.42 Yes. And that's, that's the thing too. 00:51:36.46\00:51:38.56 You know, when you look at someone 00:51:38.59\00:51:40.90 who needs help, right? 00:51:40.93\00:51:42.76 You have to recognize that you need help 00:51:42.80\00:51:44.83 before you go and seek help. 00:51:44.87\00:51:46.70 So you know, people that don't recognize 00:51:46.74\00:51:48.60 that they have a problem, 00:51:48.64\00:51:49.97 they typically don't go seeking help, 00:51:50.01\00:51:51.77 because they don't think they have a problem. 00:51:51.81\00:51:55.14 So we have to recognize that, hey, we are frail human beings, 00:51:55.18\00:52:00.92 we've made mistakes, we need to die to self daily, 00:52:00.95\00:52:04.45 that's a daily surrender. 00:52:04.49\00:52:06.39 Second by second. 00:52:06.42\00:52:07.76 Second, yes, second by second 00:52:07.79\00:52:09.32 because something could happen in the next second. 00:52:09.36\00:52:11.69 And you have to remember, God help me, 00:52:11.73\00:52:15.30 help me, you know, and I don't want to go through 00:52:15.33\00:52:17.47 a humbling experience, like King Nebuchadnezzar. 00:52:17.50\00:52:20.64 I don't want to have that type of experience. 00:52:20.67\00:52:23.24 Seven year time out. Eating grass in the fields. 00:52:23.27\00:52:25.17 Eating grass, no, 00:52:25.21\00:52:26.57 there's not enough salt and pepper in the world. 00:52:26.61\00:52:29.58 You like your food too well. 00:52:29.61\00:52:32.01 I like eating. 00:52:32.05\00:52:33.38 You know, I got to eat something good, no grass. 00:52:33.42\00:52:35.48 It doesn't work for me. 00:52:35.52\00:52:37.05 But you know, one of the things that 00:52:37.09\00:52:39.09 one of the many things that I love about the Lord, 00:52:39.12\00:52:41.92 and is that, you know, 00:52:41.96\00:52:43.89 no matter what we're going through, 00:52:43.93\00:52:45.79 no matter what we're faced with, 00:52:45.83\00:52:47.46 no matter what challenges we come up against. 00:52:47.50\00:52:50.30 He's there with us, and He's there for us. 00:52:50.33\00:52:53.23 Isaiah 41:10, says, 00:52:53.27\00:52:55.50 "Fear not, for I am with you, 00:52:55.54\00:52:58.24 be not dismayed for I am your God, 00:52:58.27\00:53:01.61 I will strengthen you. 00:53:01.64\00:53:02.98 Yes, I will help you, 00:53:03.01\00:53:04.95 I will uphold you with My righteous right hand." 00:53:04.98\00:53:08.08 So not only is He there with us, 00:53:08.12\00:53:11.59 He's saying, don't worry, I'm your God. 00:53:11.62\00:53:16.02 He will strengthen us. 00:53:16.06\00:53:18.13 He will give us the strength to overcome whatever it is. 00:53:18.16\00:53:21.20 And if we're ever faced with temptation, 00:53:21.23\00:53:23.13 He provides a way of escape 00:53:23.16\00:53:25.13 and that is, that is so beautiful. 00:53:25.17\00:53:27.10 Now we have to walk, 00:53:27.14\00:53:29.17 we have to take that way of escape. 00:53:29.20\00:53:32.11 But He provides that for us which is beautiful. 00:53:32.14\00:53:35.01 Amen. Yeah. 00:53:35.04\00:53:36.38 Amen. Yeah. 00:53:36.41\00:53:37.75 Love it. 00:53:37.78\00:53:39.11 So, Pastor Rafferty, you have a lovely passage. 00:53:39.15\00:53:42.92 In Ephesians, Ephesians 3:14-19, 00:53:42.95\00:53:46.02 "For this reason I bow my knees 00:53:46.05\00:53:47.76 to the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, 00:53:47.79\00:53:50.26 from whom the whole family in heaven 00:53:50.29\00:53:51.83 and earth is named, 00:53:51.86\00:53:53.19 that He would grant you, 00:53:53.23\00:53:54.56 according to the riches of His glory, 00:53:54.60\00:53:56.03 to be strengthened with might through His Spirit 00:53:56.06\00:53:59.13 in the inner man, 00:53:59.17\00:54:00.80 that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith, 00:54:00.84\00:54:04.34 that you be rooted and grounded in love, 00:54:04.37\00:54:07.78 may be able to comprehend with all the saints 00:54:07.81\00:54:10.55 what is the width and the length 00:54:10.58\00:54:13.08 and the depth and the height 00:54:13.11\00:54:15.18 to know the love of Christ which passes knowledge, 00:54:15.22\00:54:18.25 that you may be filled with the fullness of God." 00:54:18.29\00:54:21.26 And this is an incredible verse. 00:54:21.29\00:54:22.92 And when I think about these dimensions, 00:54:22.96\00:54:25.49 like for example, when I think about 00:54:25.53\00:54:26.86 the width of God's love, I think about 00:54:26.90\00:54:30.03 how it encompasses the whole world. 00:54:30.07\00:54:32.90 His love is wide enough 00:54:32.93\00:54:34.64 to encompass every single human being, 00:54:34.67\00:54:36.30 John 3:16. 00:54:36.34\00:54:38.41 When I think about the length of God's love, 00:54:38.44\00:54:41.01 I think about how long God has held out for us 00:54:41.04\00:54:45.75 for thousands of years, 00:54:45.78\00:54:47.85 God has held out His mercy to the human race. 00:54:47.88\00:54:51.15 You know, when I think about the depth of God's love, 00:54:51.19\00:54:53.49 I think about Jesus Christ 00:54:53.52\00:54:55.46 God Himself coming down to this earth 00:54:55.49\00:54:57.56 all the way down to humanity 00:54:57.59\00:54:59.49 and not just to humanity as a king or prince or, 00:54:59.53\00:55:02.90 but to humanity as a carpenter, 00:55:02.93\00:55:06.17 to humanity as a babe in a manger, 00:55:06.20\00:55:08.97 where there was no place for Him 00:55:09.00\00:55:10.34 in the motel, in the hotel, 00:55:10.37\00:55:11.97 and then the sacrifice of the cross, 00:55:12.01\00:55:14.68 dying the depth of the cross. 00:55:14.71\00:55:16.04 And when I think about the height of God's love, 00:55:16.08\00:55:18.01 I think about the promise in Revelation Chapter 3, 00:55:18.05\00:55:21.45 you know, it says there, 00:55:21.48\00:55:22.82 "To him that overcomes, 00:55:22.85\00:55:24.45 they will sit with Me on My throne, 00:55:24.49\00:55:27.09 even as I sit with the Father on His throne." 00:55:27.12\00:55:30.56 So we think about this, it's incomprehensible. 00:55:30.59\00:55:33.19 That's why John says, Behold, now, it's hard to describe it. 00:55:33.23\00:55:37.33 We're supposed to measure this. 00:55:37.37\00:55:38.70 And we've got these increments, you know, we've got, 00:55:38.73\00:55:41.87 you know, the things we just talked about, 00:55:41.90\00:55:43.41 the height, the length, the breadth, the depth, 00:55:43.44\00:55:45.87 but it's still, it's like a drop in the ocean 00:55:45.91\00:55:50.65 of God's love 00:55:50.68\00:55:52.01 when we think about, even these verses, 00:55:52.05\00:55:53.72 they're not even there. 00:55:53.75\00:55:55.28 So there's falling short, 00:55:55.32\00:55:58.55 but yet our imagination is there, 00:55:58.59\00:56:00.56 let your imagination just let it loose now 00:56:00.59\00:56:03.39 when you're talking about God's love 00:56:03.43\00:56:04.79 for the human race. 00:56:04.83\00:56:06.16 Don't limit it to believers, don't limit it to Christians, 00:56:06.19\00:56:09.66 don't limit it to Adventists or Baptists or Catholics, 00:56:09.70\00:56:12.83 don't limit God's love in that fashion. 00:56:12.87\00:56:15.90 The world has been doused with this love, 00:56:15.94\00:56:20.08 this unfathomable love. 00:56:20.11\00:56:21.44 Let's behold that. That's beautiful. 00:56:21.48\00:56:22.81 And I love how it says being rooted 00:56:22.84\00:56:24.98 and grounded in love, 00:56:25.01\00:56:27.05 because when you think about a plant, 00:56:27.08\00:56:28.72 it gets its nutrients from the soil, 00:56:28.75\00:56:30.99 from the roots and all of that stuff, 00:56:31.02\00:56:33.25 so we need to be rooted and grounded in love 00:56:33.29\00:56:36.16 and in the Word of God. 00:56:36.19\00:56:37.53 Dee, you look like you wanted to say something. 00:56:37.56\00:56:39.06 No, I'm just... I just love, it's so awesome. 00:56:39.09\00:56:43.23 Yes. God's Word. 00:56:43.26\00:56:44.73 Amen. And His love and kindness. 00:56:44.77\00:56:48.87 Pastor Dinzey, will you read Revelation 3:19, 00:56:48.90\00:56:52.27 ever so quickly? 00:56:52.31\00:56:53.64 Ever so quickly? 00:56:53.68\00:56:55.08 We're running out of time. 00:56:55.11\00:56:56.44 It says here, 00:56:56.48\00:56:57.81 "As many as I love, 00:56:57.85\00:56:59.55 I rebuke and chasten, 00:56:59.58\00:57:01.48 therefore be zealous and repent." 00:57:01.52\00:57:04.79 And this scripture here is a message for us as well. 00:57:04.82\00:57:07.82 God loves us. 00:57:07.86\00:57:09.26 He's not gonna, He doesn't want us 00:57:09.29\00:57:10.79 to, to sink in the mire and corrupting 00:57:10.83\00:57:14.76 and destroying the wickedness 00:57:14.80\00:57:17.27 so He lovingly rebukes us and chasten us for our benefit. 00:57:17.30\00:57:20.84 Amen. 00:57:20.87\00:57:22.20 And so that doesn't mean that, 00:57:22.24\00:57:23.71 you know, you won't be corrected 00:57:23.74\00:57:25.51 on bad behavior. 00:57:25.54\00:57:26.88 No, that is a sign of love. 00:57:26.91\00:57:28.34 Thank you all so much, and thank you for tuning in. 00:57:28.38\00:57:31.75 We hope you recognize the immense love 00:57:31.78\00:57:34.02 that God has for you. 00:57:34.05\00:57:35.68 God bless you. 00:57:35.72\00:57:37.05