I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello, and welcome to 3ABN Today
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Family Worship.
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It's Friday night
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and as we open up
the Sabbath hours,
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what a privilege it is
to come into your home,
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to share this time with you,
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to just open up God's
Word, and to pray together,
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and to see God's face.
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You are part of the 3ABN family.
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I know every time Greg
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and I go out with the 3ABN team,
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and get to meet you
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and see your faces
and hear your stories
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and know that you
pray for this ministry,
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and you support this ministry.
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What a difference that makes.
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Because of you, many people
are finding out about Jesus
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for the very first time.
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Now, I'm not
sitting here with Greg,
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and usually I'm sitting
with Greg on Family Worship
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but tonight I have
my sisters with me.
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And we invite
you whether you are
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one of the sisters or a brother.
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Our topic for
tonight affects all of us.
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So I'm excited we're
talking about forgiveness,
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which is a deep,
and a heavy topic,
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and an involved topic.
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But it's so
liberating, so freeing
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what God wants
to do in our lives
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and in our hearts.
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So I wanna
introduce our sisters.
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I'm gonna start
right here with Dee.
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And Dee Hildebrand
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is production
coordinator for 3ABN.
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You've been here 22 years.
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Twenty two years.
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That's why I'm
only part time now.
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I've put in my 20
years so now I just come
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and help Greg when he needs me.
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Oh, we need you
all the time, Dee.
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Wouldn't you agree
Dee is indispensable?
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Absolutely.
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You have a heart for God.
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It's nice to be needed,
but I'm not indispensable,
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but it's nice to be needed.
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That's true. Absolutely.
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And sitting next to you
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is our pastor's wife and sister,
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Angela Lomacang.
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And we love you, Angie,
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what a blessing you are
to the ministry and to us.
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And thank you for
being here. Praise the Lord.
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I'm happy and
excited about being here
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and to be a part of
you ladies and the topic,
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it's a deep topic.
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So, well, we all
deal with this issue.
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Oh, absolutely.
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Isn't that
incredible because as, you know,
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you think okay,
"I'm a Christian,
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and I've followed Jesus,
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and I'm not going
to deal with this."
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But we all do and
before we go any further,
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let me introduce everyone else.
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On this side is
my sister and friend,
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Dr. Yvonne Lewis Shelton.
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I love having you here, sis,
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I know you are
founder and consultant
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for Dare to Dream Network.
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Yeah. So glad you're here.
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Oh, it's so good to be here.
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I've been looking forward
to just being able to share
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with my sisters
here and with you.
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So this is a blessing.
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Amen.
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And sitting next to
you is my assistant.
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Sometimes if
you call the office,
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you might get LaDonna.
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Now you can put a
face with the name,
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and a sweet
personality behind it.
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You are such a blessing,
LaDonna Terrill, sorry.
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You are such a
blessing to me in the office,
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and do an
incredible job, serve the Lord
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with kindness and grace,
and thank you for being here.
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You are all a blessing to me
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and I'm absolutely thrilled
to be a part of this program.
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Thank you.
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Yay!
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LaDonna is always
helpful to all of us, isn't she?
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Thank you.
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But I can say honestly that
all of you are helpful to me.
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Yes.
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You know, when I look
around the table here,
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you've all
prayed for me or with me
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and you've all encouraged
me in my walk with God
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and mentored me, so thank you.
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We love you.
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Exactly. You
know, you introduced us.
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But you have been
such an amazing blessing
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to all of us.
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Amen.
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And we are thankful
for your leadership,
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and we are thankful
that you are a sister here,
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so, it's all good.
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I think we love
each other. I do too.
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We just love each
other, that's how it is.
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We love working
together and sharing.
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We do. It makes life wonderful.
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Yes.
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People come here to
3ABN and you know, Dee,
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I've been told this that
they just see us like a family.
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And that we really
genuinely love each other.
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It's not, you
know, it's not just
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what you see on television,
we really love each other.
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And so it's a blessing to
be co-laborers for Christ.
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And when we come
out and do the rallies
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and we meet you,
what a blessing it is
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because then we know,
you know, you're watching,
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and you're praying
with us, and for us.
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And so it's just,
it's really a blessing
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to be on this
planet at this time
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in earth's history.
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And to be able
to work for the Lord
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and to share
about our experience
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which we're
gonna do this evening.
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It's just a blessing.
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So we're glad that
you're with us this evening.
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Well, since
we're not all perfect,
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we practice this a
lot, this forgiveness.
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We're quick to
forgive each other.
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Yes. Yeah.
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And it makes it all back
to our working well together.
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Yeah. Amen.
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You said it. That's true.
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You know, there's saying,
"A family that prays together,
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stays together."
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And that's how this ministry is.
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We forgive and pray.
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Yes.
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Speaking of prayer, we
should open up in prayer
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before we get into our
topic and open up God's Word.
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And, Angie, you
wanna pray for us?
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Sure. Let's bow our heads.
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Our gracious Heavenly Father,
we bow before Your presence.
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And, Lord, You're so good to us,
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we cannot thank You
enough for Your goodness
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and graciousness towards us.
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Lord, we ask that You come
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and send Your
Spirit right now to this,
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this family worship.
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Lord, be in our midst.
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All of us deal with
the issues on forgiveness.
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And, Lord, You have
come into our hearts,
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and bless the
viewers and listeners,
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and speak to their hearts.
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If they are
struggling with forgiveness,
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speak to their hearts I
pray, and may today give You,
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this program,
give You the praise,
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the honor, and glory
that You are so deserving.
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In Jesus' name, amen.
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Amen. Amen.
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So I wanna do an
opening scripture
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and then we'll jump into
our topic of forgiveness.
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And at first
glance, it might not seem
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like it has anything
to do with forgiveness.
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But let's look at
2 Corinthians 5:17.
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Whoever gets it, you
wanna jump in and read
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2 Corinthians 5:17.
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"Therefore, if
anyone is in Christ,
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he is a new creature.
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Old things have
passed away, behold,
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all things have become new."
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And that has a lot
to do with forgiveness
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because I am a new creature.
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I want to be a new creature.
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And I don't want
all that old gunk
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that used to be in
me, even to exist anymore.
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So and you cannot be new
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if you're holding on to the old,
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and unforgiveness
is really destructive.
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So yeah.
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Any other
thoughts on the scripture?
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Dee said it all.
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She did it.
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She said it all.
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New creature, yeah,
we are new in Christ.
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And we cannot hold on to
the past, the old things.
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And you were raised a Christian,
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was a Christian all
your life and yet still
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you became a new creature...
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Oh, yes. Unlike me.
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Even if you've been a Christian,
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raised a Christian,
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you didn't do any
of the stuff I did.
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But you still become a
new Christian in Christ.
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Amen. Yes, yes.
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No matter where you come
into your walk with Christ
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but what you drop off the old.
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Yes, yes.
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It's amazing that, you know,
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when we look at
Christ is the creator.
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Yeah. Yes.
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And He is always creating.
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Always, I mean, He is...
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Through Him
everything was created,
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so we are new creatures,
we become new creatures.
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And even if you're
living in a pattern of sin,
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and you then you
give your heart to Jesus,
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He recreates you.
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You're brand new, and
so He never stops creating.
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Yeah.
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Just creating in us, you know,
create in me a clean heart,
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oh God, a new, a
steadfast spirit within me.
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He's always
creating something new in us.
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So in Him, we are new creations.
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That's right. We are.
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There are...
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I remember hearing a
pastor say one time that,
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you know,
people who are involved
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in adultery, or
fornication, or sexual sin,
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you can leave that behind
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and become a new
creature in Christ.
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So we're gonna be talking about
forgiveness and self-forgiving
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and all that.
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God has a plan for everybody.
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And He is always creating us
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to conform to
the image of Christ.
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Amen.
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So that's... I
mean, this verse is,
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it does have to do
with forgiveness as well.
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I think it's one of
my favorite scriptures.
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You know, that whole
concept of we were all once
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the old creature, you know,
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we all were once
wrapped up in sin, infliction,
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and bitterness of
spirit and unforgiveness.
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And in the Greek
the word for new.
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It says, "If
anyone is in Christ,
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he is a new creation."
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The word for new Kainos means,
new in quality, not in time.
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Oh, I love it. Beautiful.
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So, if you think about
that, we are the same people.
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It's not like
we're a new person.
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That's right.
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We are just
created a new or recreated,
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like those old habits die
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in the old way of
thinking goes away.
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We think differently,
we see things differently,
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we feel differently about...
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It changes what's
in you and brings out
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what He created you to be,
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not what the fallen
nature of man created you to be.
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Even your thought
patterns are different.
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Right.
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You still have those
experience that help you
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to help other people too,
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you know, so
have that background.
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Amen.
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So as we jump into forgiveness,
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why is it even
important to forgive?
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Maybe someone's at home going,
"I'm hanging on to this grudge.
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It kind of feels
good to hold on to that."
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And I don't think I
want to let that go.
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Because it's just,
I have a right too.
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See, I was in the
right and it's no seesaw.
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It's like drinking
poison and hoping that they die
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but you die.
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It eats you up.
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And the poison will
kill you, me, not them.
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It's a little piece at a
time, it's kind of insinuate,
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you know, you
don't see it coming
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because you just
have this little grudge.
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Someone just, they
gave it, wonderful.
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It's like an oxymoron.
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Yeah, right.
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Does have a little grudge.
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But that's how we look at it.
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You know, it's
like, "Well, I'm not gonna
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have anything to
do with that person."
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But I just heard
someone demonstrate
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that it was like putting a
little string across the...
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Who did?
Somebody, I just heard that?
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Shelley did
that. Shelley did that.
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You put a little
string across the stream,
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and it catches one little leaf.
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It's not a big deal,
the water's still flowing,
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but that leaf
catches another leaf.
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And pretty soon
you have a dam built up
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and it doesn't flow.
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So that little grudge,
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it kind of attract
other little things
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where we can be
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easily offended.
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And these little things, we
don't think much about them.
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And sometimes we
think we've let them go
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but we haven't.
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They're laying
in there festering
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and creating poison
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that destroys our
soul, destroys our life.
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So you want
your life to be free,
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and whole, and open,
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those little grudges that
you don't think much about,
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can be your destruction.
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That's right.
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Well, Dee, and you
mentioned letting go,
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you know, when you think,
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"Oh, I forgive
so and so for that."
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Until the next
time something happened
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and so and so
does something to you,
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because I struggle with this,
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so and so does
something to you again,
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and you dredge
that back up and say,
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"Well, I got this
and now you got this,
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well then I forgive."
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But the next time
rouse around like,
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"I got this, and I
got this, and I got this."
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You know, it's the same thing.
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Once you've forgiven,
we got to try to forget
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and move past that.
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So then when
something happens again,
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we're not dredging up
the past of unforgiveness.
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And it can be the
same thing over and over.
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Right.
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So sometimes we need to go
along with the forgiveness.
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We need to look at
that person and try to see
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what's happening.
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Maybe look at them
through God's eyes or ask,
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"Lord, help me understand
why they're doing this,
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or what does that
really mean to them?
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Am I misinterpreting
what you're saying or doing?"
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Yes.
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And maybe they
don't mean to be that way
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or they don't understand
how it's coming across.
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So we can.
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Let's look at the
scripture about that Matthew 6,
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part of the Sermon on the Mount.
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I love the Sermon on the Mount.
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You know, you think about
when Jesus presented that,
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it's fairly early
in His ministry work.
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And the fact that
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what He
presented was so radical,
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it's so radical
for what the scribes
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and the Pharisees
taught the people.
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And He said, "Okay, you
say, 'don't murder people.'
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But I say, 'if you
even hate someone...'
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" You know, He took
the law so much deeper.
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He did, He did.
Look at to the scripture.
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And yes.
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So if we look at
Matthew 6, here's this principle
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of we need to
forgive other people,
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verses 14 and 15.
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You have that, LaDonna?
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Yeah.
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"For if you forgive
men their trespasses,
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your heavenly Father
will also forgive you.
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But if you do not
forgive men their trespasses,
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neither will your Father
forgive your trespasses."
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Wow.
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Now, is God just being mean?
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Yes, He's being harsh.
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Is that harsh, is that cruel?
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Not at all, I think
it's pretty black and white,
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really.
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If we don't forgive,
why can't He forgive?
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What's the
principle underneath that?
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Yeah.
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Can we really...
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It's a good question, Dee.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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What is the principle?
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We're holding something
in our heart against another,
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and God forgives us,
who knows, so much more.
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You know, so much more.
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And it's a daily,
it's hourly sometimes,
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you know where God is just
open to given us forgiveness.
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But we're not willing to forgive
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Joe across the street
because his dog barks too loud.
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You know, so you just...
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Can we actually accept
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and be filled
with God's forgiveness
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if we're holding
other unforgiveness
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in our heart?
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That's a very good point.
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Yeah, that's a very good point.
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I think that He
forgives us so much.
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It's kind of like that
parable of the, you know,
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of the person who owed...
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Yeah, the debt.
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The unforgiving servant.
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Yes, who owed so much,
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and yet was so
unwilling to forget the debts
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that were owed to him.
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Yes.
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I think that, you know, it
keeps things in perspective.
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Excuse me.
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God says, "If we
don't forgive others,
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then He's not gonna forgive us."
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And surely He has a
lot to forgive in us.
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So it really...
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For us, it's freeing to forgive.
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Yes.
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And you said it.
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If we refuse to forgive,
we become debt collectors.
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Oh, that's good.
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We do become debt collectors,
and how, how I wrote this down,
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how long we refuse
to keep them in jail.
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We refuse to forgive
people and we put them in jail.
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Ooh. Good point.
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That's good. Put them in jail.
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Right.
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And we have to let go.
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You know, we're collecting debt,
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you know, there
was a prison jail
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back in Bible days when
you didn't pay your debt,
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you go to the jail.
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And it's like, "Okay,
I didn't pay my $20..."
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Right.
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Yeah, but you
go to debtors jail.
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Debtors prison,
right? Prison, that's right.
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And so it does
eats you up. It does.
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But if you fill your
heart with all this debt,
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what room is there
for God's forgiveness?
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That's right.
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He's trying to make
new creatures of us.
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He's trying to fill
our heart with His ministry
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and His character.
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Do you think God
walks around holding grudges
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and unforgiveness in His heart?
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So that's not His character.
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So we're crowding Him
out where you can say,
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"You can have
this much in my heart.
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But this part over here,
I'm holding for my grudges
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because I'm just."
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And yet who is really just?
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Yes.
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There's a great scripture
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I thought I was
looking up a minute ago.
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It's Hebrews 12:14-15.
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Ooh! I love this
scripture. Right.
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Yeah. Right.
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And it says, "Pursue peace
with all people, and holiness,
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without which no
one will see the Lord."
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Looking...This is
verse 15, "Looking carefully,
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lest anyone fall
short of the grace of God,
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lest any root of bitterness
springing up cause trouble
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and by this
many become defiled."
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We can become bitter
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from what
someone has done to us,
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if we keep turning it
over, and over and over.
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I know for me, like, one time,
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I think I had
like PTSD or something.
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It was my own PTSD
because I kept thinking about
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what this person had done to me.
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And I just can't,
I couldn't even...
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I just couldn't stop it.
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It would just pop into
my brain from time to time.
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And the way I am,
I'm not fake and phony,
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so when I would see this person,
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I would just go
different direction
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so I wouldn't have to speak
because I didn't wanna speak,
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I didn't wanna talk,
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I just wanted to just stay away.
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Yes.
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And the Lord,
the Lord is too much,
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He laid on my heart
00:19:14.82\00:19:17.19
to apologize to this person
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for not speaking.
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And I said, "Lord, I
don't wanna to do that.
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I don't want to apologize."
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After what happened to me
and all the meanness and all,
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I don't want to apologize.
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He said, "Apologize.
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Say that you're
sorry for not speaking."
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So...
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Did you do it? Did you do it?
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Yeah, drum roll.
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I did. I did. Amen.
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And the person said to me,
"Why, I couldn't figure out
00:19:52.55\00:19:55.92
why you wouldn't speak to me?
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I'll say to
myself, "What? You did."
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But I didn't say it? No.
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Because really, I
was really trying to do
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what the Lord had laid on me.
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But guess what?
00:20:04.10\00:20:05.43
The Lord removed
all my flashbacks
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after I apologized for
what I was doing wrong.
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The Lord removed
all of my flashbacks.
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I no longer had that bitterness.
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I was letting bitterness
take root in my spirit.
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And after that,
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those and now I can run
into the person and just,
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you know, be kind
and genuinely feel
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like everything's okay.
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Yeah.
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You know, I don't let myself
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think about what happened
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because then I'll
start getting excited.
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Yeah, we leave it alone.
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So you just leave it
alone. Leave it behind you.
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But I saw that, to say,
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that the forgiveness was for me.
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Yeah. Right. It was.
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That was for me
asking forgiveness, freed me.
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And then I was free to
just go on and live my life.
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Isn't it
interesting how sometimes
00:21:04.53\00:21:06.43
God is trying to guide
us down the right path.
00:21:06.46\00:21:10.63
And we resist kicking
and screaming all the way.
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And then when we
actually do it, going into sin,
00:21:14.67\00:21:19.11
asking for the commitment,
so it's very difficult.
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Yes.
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How is coming out of it now?
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Oh, it was amazing.
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And I felt after
having the conversation,
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I just felt freer.
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Right.
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You know, and now if
I run into that person,
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I can, like I
said, I can be friendly
00:21:34.52\00:21:36.93
because God has
freed me of that anger,
00:21:36.96\00:21:40.60
and the rage, and the PTSD,
00:21:40.63\00:21:43.70
you know, that
would just come in.
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And I'm not making
light of any of it.
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If anybody's watching with PTSD,
00:21:47.47\00:21:48.90
I really do think
I had a form of it
00:21:48.94\00:21:50.67
because it was a
traumatic situation
00:21:50.71\00:21:55.48
and so I was getting that.
00:21:55.51\00:21:57.71
But the Lord has freed me
from that by submitting to Him.
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When He tells
us to do something,
00:22:03.28\00:22:05.79
He doesn't tell us
just because He's just
00:22:05.82\00:22:07.89
arbitrarily
telling us to do something.
00:22:07.92\00:22:10.26
He's telling us
because He knows what effect
00:22:10.29\00:22:13.03
doing it will have for us.
00:22:13.06\00:22:16.50
And so He just, you know,
00:22:16.53\00:22:18.03
after that I
was just so grateful
00:22:18.07\00:22:20.00
because I didn't
have the same flashbacks.
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You had peace in your mind.
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Yes! That's so incredible.
00:22:25.44\00:22:27.31
This very scripture,
God used to deliver me too.
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Amen!
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Read it again.
00:22:35.15\00:22:36.48
On the same scripture
because what had happened
00:22:36.52\00:22:38.45
in my experience, I had,
this was several years ago,
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I walked into a room
with a whole bunch of people.
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And there was a woman at
the other end of the room,
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and she had her back to
me, and she was my friend.
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So I was
excited. Oh, here she is.
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And I was gonna go say hi.
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Yeah. Yeah.
00:22:51.63\00:22:52.97
Then when I walked in,
00:22:53.00\00:22:54.34
I realized she's
talking about me.
00:22:54.37\00:22:55.70
Oh, wow!
00:22:55.74\00:22:57.07
It was just like
critical and dwindling.
00:22:57.11\00:22:59.41
And I just stood
there and then I ran back
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out to the car.
00:23:02.54\00:23:04.11
And I remember just crying.
00:23:04.15\00:23:06.18
And I thought, I thought,
"God, she was my friend."
00:23:06.21\00:23:09.48
And then I did what I thought
00:23:09.52\00:23:11.19
any good
Christian women should do.
00:23:11.22\00:23:13.29
And that is, I
didn't gossip about her.
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That's right.
00:23:14.96\00:23:16.29
'Cause we can be
good at that, right?
00:23:16.32\00:23:17.66
The gossip part.
00:23:17.69\00:23:19.03
And I thought, "Okay, I'm
not gonna talk about that."
00:23:19.06\00:23:21.00
But I stuffed it.
00:23:21.03\00:23:23.00
And I just buried
that deep in my heart.
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And I didn't even realize
the bitterness that was there
00:23:25.33\00:23:28.97
until I was
memorizing the scripture.
00:23:29.00\00:23:31.34
I was doing dishes,
00:23:31.37\00:23:32.74
and I put three-by-five cards up
00:23:32.77\00:23:34.11
at the sink.
00:23:34.14\00:23:35.48
So I can work on
memorizing scripture.
00:23:35.51\00:23:36.85
Nice.
00:23:36.88\00:23:38.21
And I was reading follow
peace with all men and holiness,
00:23:38.25\00:23:40.05
without which no
one should see God.
00:23:40.08\00:23:41.42
And I thought, thank
you, God, I'm walking in peace
00:23:41.45\00:23:43.59
with my brothers and sisters
because I didn't sense it.
00:23:43.62\00:23:46.39
Yes. No, it was in there.
00:23:46.42\00:23:47.76
It was buried.
00:23:47.79\00:23:49.12
Yes.
00:23:49.16\00:23:50.49
And then the very next scripture
00:23:50.53\00:23:52.19
just kind of jolted me,
00:23:52.23\00:23:53.63
the one about
looking diligently,
00:23:53.66\00:23:55.43
lest any root of
bitterness trouble you.
00:23:55.46\00:23:57.97
And I felt the Holy Spirit
just tapped me on the shoulder,
00:23:58.00\00:24:00.34
you know, and say,
00:24:00.37\00:24:01.70
"Jill, this
bitterness is gonna ruin you,
00:24:01.74\00:24:04.41
and your marriage,
and your ministry."
00:24:04.44\00:24:07.98
And I thought, "Okay,
God, I wanna give it to you
00:24:08.01\00:24:09.81
but I don't know how, you know.
00:24:09.84\00:24:12.01
I don't know how,
God, will you give me
00:24:12.05\00:24:13.75
Your
forgiveness for this woman?"
00:24:13.78\00:24:15.32
Yes.
00:24:15.35\00:24:16.69
But I didn't
know what else to do.
00:24:16.72\00:24:18.89
And then He led me on a
journey to pray for her.
00:24:18.92\00:24:20.92
Yes.
00:24:20.96\00:24:22.29
Like a
consistent, everyday prayer.
00:24:22.32\00:24:24.59
Now, you know
what I wanted to pray?
00:24:24.63\00:24:26.73
God, she can
have a car accident.
00:24:26.76\00:24:29.90
Making it real.
00:24:29.93\00:24:31.27
Not anything really serious,
but she could break an arm.
00:24:31.30\00:24:35.70
It just show that
there's some pain going on here.
00:24:35.74\00:24:39.91
And He said, "No, Jill,
00:24:39.94\00:24:41.28
you need to pray
blessings over her life."
00:24:41.31\00:24:43.18
So I prayed what I would
have prayed over a friend,
00:24:43.21\00:24:45.48
you know, God, would You
bless her life spiritually,
00:24:45.51\00:24:48.28
and give her good things today,
00:24:48.32\00:24:50.45
and give her
financial blessings,
00:24:50.49\00:24:52.65
and bless her family,
00:24:52.69\00:24:54.06
and or expand her ministry?
00:24:54.09\00:24:56.42
And it felt really fake.
00:24:56.46\00:24:57.99
You know, like I
was very hypocrite.
00:24:58.03\00:25:00.16
I didn't want that. Yes.
00:25:00.20\00:25:01.53
Yes. Right.
00:25:01.56\00:25:03.10
But I prayed the first
day, and the second day,
00:25:03.13\00:25:04.90
and the third day,
and just so hypocritical,
00:25:04.93\00:25:07.40
I felt but God
had said, "Do this."
00:25:07.44\00:25:09.14
So I'm trying to
walk in obedience.
00:25:09.17\00:25:10.54
Right.
00:25:10.57\00:25:11.91
And then maybe day five or six,
00:25:11.94\00:25:14.04
I don't remember.
00:25:14.08\00:25:15.68
And God changed my heart.
00:25:15.71\00:25:17.81
I was just praying one day,
00:25:17.85\00:25:19.31
and it just
rolled off my back like,
00:25:19.35\00:25:23.79
"Thank you, God.
00:25:23.82\00:25:25.22
You've set me free."
00:25:25.25\00:25:26.59
You know, and that doesn't
mean later on down the road,
00:25:26.62\00:25:29.06
you might have to go back again.
00:25:29.09\00:25:30.46
Right. That's right.
00:25:30.49\00:25:31.83
It's right. That's just right.
00:25:31.86\00:25:33.19
And I think that's
important to say to, Jill,
00:25:33.23\00:25:35.10
that it is a journey.
00:25:35.13\00:25:37.43
It's not, it doesn't necessarily
00:25:37.47\00:25:39.30
happen instantaneously.
00:25:39.33\00:25:41.37
You know what I mean?
00:25:41.40\00:25:42.74
Yeah,
00:25:42.77\00:25:44.11
it just like you,
00:25:44.14\00:25:46.17
you submitted to
God's will for you.
00:25:46.21\00:25:49.14
Pray for this person.
00:25:49.18\00:25:50.61
The first time feels fake.
00:25:50.65\00:25:52.61
Oh, yeah. I've done that too.
00:25:52.65\00:25:53.98
If you pray for
somebody, and, you know,
00:25:54.02\00:25:55.35
you really are not feeling that,
00:25:55.38\00:25:58.05
but you're just doing it
00:25:58.09\00:25:59.42
because you
feel like you should.
00:25:59.45\00:26:01.16
But eventually,
you do feel like,
00:26:01.19\00:26:04.73
you really should be
praying for this person.
00:26:04.76\00:26:07.00
And it's really freeing you.
00:26:07.03\00:26:09.96
But it's a process.
00:26:10.00\00:26:11.33
It's doesn't necessarily
just happen just like that.
00:26:11.37\00:26:15.50
And we've talked
about forgiveness
00:26:15.54\00:26:17.81
on things that were,
00:26:17.84\00:26:19.37
that hurt our feelings,
00:26:19.41\00:26:20.78
or that were superficial,
and not superficial.
00:26:20.81\00:26:24.71
I didn't mean now in that way.
00:26:24.75\00:26:26.08
It's really painful,
00:26:26.11\00:26:27.98
but I was thinking
about people who have...
00:26:28.02\00:26:30.32
Because we feel justified
when we've been injured,
00:26:30.35\00:26:34.86
but there's lots
of people out there
00:26:34.89\00:26:36.46
who have been injured
physically, or mentally,
00:26:36.49\00:26:40.43
and emotionally that are abused,
00:26:40.46\00:26:43.47
that are, critical people
have gone to jail for things.
00:26:43.50\00:26:48.54
Many, many, many years ago,
00:26:48.57\00:26:49.90
someone broke into
my home and I was there
00:26:49.94\00:26:53.24
and they were
armed with a knife.
00:26:53.27\00:26:55.68
And God was there
and He worked it out.
00:26:55.71\00:26:59.78
I didn't get raped,
00:26:59.81\00:27:01.48
I got just superficially cut,`
00:27:01.52\00:27:03.85
and all the
details worked out fine.
00:27:03.89\00:27:05.92
And I ended up safe.
00:27:05.95\00:27:07.66
And he actually felt like
he had not done anything wrong
00:27:07.69\00:27:11.89
because someone
did call the police
00:27:11.93\00:27:16.00
and the police showed up.
00:27:16.03\00:27:17.57
And he was arrested,
00:27:17.60\00:27:18.93
and he ended up
going to jail for a year.
00:27:18.97\00:27:21.67
But he still felt
like he didn't do anything.
00:27:21.70\00:27:23.41
But there was many
things that he had done.
00:27:23.44\00:27:27.14
And I actually learned,
00:27:27.18\00:27:32.51
knew at the time
that if I hung on
00:27:32.55\00:27:34.75
to that justified rage.
00:27:34.78\00:27:40.09
I remember not too long
00:27:40.12\00:27:41.79
after that I went
to the hairdresser
00:27:41.82\00:27:43.53
because there's
stuff that happens to you.
00:27:43.56\00:27:46.53
And when he put my
head back to wash my hair,
00:27:46.56\00:27:50.30
and exposed my neck, I
came flying out of there,
00:27:50.33\00:27:54.04
almost screaming it
was like and terrified.
00:27:54.07\00:27:56.74
And he's like,
00:27:56.77\00:27:58.11
because no one
knew what had happened.
00:27:58.14\00:27:59.47
And he was like,
"What's wrong with you?"
00:27:59.51\00:28:02.04
So I had to put
in towel over my neck
00:28:02.08\00:28:03.71
to cover my neck
to protect myself
00:28:03.75\00:28:05.51
to get through
this emotional thing.
00:28:05.55\00:28:07.88
But I knew that if I
did not let go of this,
00:28:07.92\00:28:11.42
if I didn't, that I
was the one captive.
00:28:11.45\00:28:15.22
He might have been in
jail, but I was captive too.
00:28:15.26\00:28:18.99
So that God had to heal me
00:28:19.03\00:28:21.16
mentally,
emotionally, and spiritually.
00:28:21.20\00:28:23.53
And part of that journey
00:28:23.57\00:28:24.90
was lifting Him up in prayer.
00:28:24.93\00:28:28.47
And I didn't do that
right away at the time.
00:28:28.50\00:28:31.77
I wasn't really
Christian right then.
00:28:31.81\00:28:33.98
But later on, I
began lifting Him up
00:28:34.01\00:28:36.28
and asking the
Lord to heal his life.
00:28:36.31\00:28:41.08
And he was a married
man and he had children.
00:28:41.12\00:28:45.35
So even though he
was very, very young,
00:28:45.39\00:28:47.92
so it was sincerely praying,
00:28:47.96\00:28:51.29
I hope to see him
in heaven someday.
00:28:51.33\00:28:54.66
And that whatever happened then,
00:28:54.70\00:28:58.13
it turned his life around
00:28:58.17\00:28:59.53
before he ended up
destroying his life.
00:28:59.57\00:29:02.67
But I don't know,
00:29:02.70\00:29:04.14
but I still
think of him in prayer.
00:29:04.17\00:29:07.08
And I can't
imagine how hard it is
00:29:07.11\00:29:08.84
for someone who has been
raped, or abused, or beaten,
00:29:08.88\00:29:14.25
or these horrific
things that happened,
00:29:14.28\00:29:16.85
I can't...
00:29:16.89\00:29:18.22
Or if they killed
someone that you love,
00:29:18.25\00:29:20.22
like your child, or
your spouse, or something.
00:29:20.26\00:29:23.93
I do not know
00:29:23.96\00:29:25.29
how hard that would
be for someone to do.
00:29:25.33\00:29:27.50
And yet I know
00:29:27.53\00:29:29.73
that that is
the path to healing.
00:29:29.76\00:29:32.77
That's right.
00:29:32.80\00:29:34.14
It's starting that long path
00:29:34.17\00:29:37.14
of working with
the Lord and saying,
00:29:37.17\00:29:38.74
"God, You have to
take me down this path
00:29:38.77\00:29:41.11
and show me how to
forgive, to cleanse my own heart
00:29:41.14\00:29:45.35
and have my own freedom
00:29:45.38\00:29:47.42
or this will destroy
me, not the person who..."
00:29:47.45\00:29:52.05
I have to leave
justice to the Lord.
00:29:52.09\00:29:53.82
You have to reach
the point where you say,
00:29:53.86\00:29:55.82
"Lord, I'm going to
give the justice to You
00:29:55.86\00:29:58.36
because this was wrong,
00:29:58.39\00:29:59.93
it should never have happened,
but I can't make it unhappen.
00:29:59.96\00:30:04.37
So help me walk the path
that will lead to forgiveness.
00:30:04.40\00:30:09.44
So I will be free
and be a new creature.
00:30:09.47\00:30:13.91
And God can make
you a new creature,
00:30:13.94\00:30:15.84
even if you've been
through all of this.
00:30:15.88\00:30:18.18
That's right. He can.
00:30:18.21\00:30:19.55
And you know, Dee,
you brought up something
00:30:19.58\00:30:21.12
that I think is
really important,
00:30:21.15\00:30:23.22
you know, praying for someone,
00:30:23.25\00:30:24.59
even when they don't think
they've done anything wrong.
00:30:24.62\00:30:26.45
Yeah.
00:30:26.49\00:30:27.89
You know, how do you...
00:30:27.92\00:30:31.36
The Bible tells us
that we're supposed to,
00:30:31.39\00:30:34.46
if someone has
something against us,
00:30:34.50\00:30:37.27
we're supposed to go to them.
00:30:37.30\00:30:38.97
Not even just us
against somebody else.
00:30:39.00\00:30:41.27
But if somebody has
something against us,
00:30:41.30\00:30:44.21
we're to go to them
and make it right, fix it.
00:30:44.24\00:30:47.98
And it's like how do you...
00:30:48.01\00:30:50.51
How do you...
00:30:50.55\00:30:51.88
And this is just a
question for all of us.
00:30:51.91\00:30:53.78
How do we forgive
someone who has not even asked
00:30:53.82\00:30:59.25
or doesn't even, you know...
00:30:59.29\00:31:00.66
Acknowledge. Exactly.
00:31:00.69\00:31:02.09
Well, like that
lady said to you,
00:31:02.12\00:31:03.56
"I didn't know why you
weren't speaking to me."
00:31:03.59\00:31:06.06
They're like, "What?" Yeah.
00:31:06.09\00:31:08.46
So they have no conception
that they have wronged you.
00:31:08.50\00:31:13.47
So how do you go
ask for, you know...
00:31:13.50\00:31:16.14
Yeah, how do you forgive someone
00:31:16.17\00:31:18.14
who is not even
asking for your forgiveness?
00:31:18.17\00:31:21.41
I think it's easier.
00:31:21.44\00:31:22.98
Do you know if
someone comes to you
00:31:23.01\00:31:24.35
and says "Oh, I'm sorry."
00:31:24.38\00:31:25.81
I didn't mean to hurt you.
00:31:25.85\00:31:27.18
"You know, I messed
up. I made a mistake."
00:31:27.22\00:31:29.12
No, they're not
even acknowledging
00:31:29.15\00:31:30.82
that they did
something wrong to you.
00:31:30.85\00:31:32.85
How do you then forgive them?
00:31:32.89\00:31:34.86
What do you think?
00:31:34.89\00:31:38.03
Angie, you look like
you wanna say something.
00:31:38.06\00:31:40.43
How do you forgive that person
that doesn't even acknowledge?
00:31:40.46\00:31:43.50
You have to ask the Lord
to put it into your heart
00:31:43.53\00:31:46.60
to make you willing.
00:31:46.63\00:31:48.40
Because we're human nature,
00:31:48.44\00:31:50.41
we're not willing, you ask.
00:31:50.44\00:31:52.47
So first of all, you
have to make the decision
00:31:52.51\00:31:54.58
that's what you wanna do.
00:31:54.61\00:31:56.11
Yes.
00:31:56.14\00:31:57.48
So then you...
00:31:57.51\00:31:58.85
That the Lord's will be in me
00:31:58.88\00:32:00.22
and I wrote down the
principles of forgiveness.
00:32:00.25\00:32:02.12
Amen.
00:32:02.15\00:32:03.49
And number one was,
00:32:03.52\00:32:04.85
let the Lord's will
be done, not your will.
00:32:04.89\00:32:07.59
With my will,
00:32:07.62\00:32:08.96
I'm done with them.
00:32:08.99\00:32:10.33
No, you want the Lord's will
00:32:10.36\00:32:11.69
because you
want their salvation.
00:32:11.73\00:32:13.36
And the second one was,
00:32:13.40\00:32:14.73
let the Lord
provide your daily strength.
00:32:14.76\00:32:17.47
Give us this day,
00:32:17.50\00:32:18.83
our daily bread,
00:32:18.87\00:32:20.20
you know, ask the Lord
to help us on daily basis.
00:32:20.24\00:32:23.17
And the third one is,
00:32:23.20\00:32:24.54
forgive us in the same
way that we forgive others.
00:32:24.57\00:32:28.38
You know, it's like,
you want forgiveness,
00:32:28.41\00:32:31.41
you know, I want to
be forgiven of my sin.
00:32:31.45\00:32:33.75
So, you know, you please.
00:32:33.78\00:32:36.05
Anyway, number four is,
00:32:36.08\00:32:37.42
don't allow temptation and
evil to have power over us.
00:32:37.45\00:32:41.49
We don't want that over us.
00:32:41.52\00:32:43.06
We don't want
that spirit over us.
00:32:43.09\00:32:46.09
And let Your
glory in Your kingdom
00:32:46.13\00:32:47.83
be revealed in us.
00:32:47.86\00:32:49.20
And lastly,
00:32:49.23\00:32:50.57
we will be forgiven
00:32:50.60\00:32:53.17
only as if as we forgive others.
00:32:53.20\00:32:56.64
So I want forgiveness,
but I have to forgive others.
00:32:56.67\00:33:01.34
Also, you said it,
00:33:01.38\00:33:03.18
it's the
hardest thing sometimes.
00:33:03.21\00:33:05.05
But we have to ask the
Lord to put that in me.
00:33:05.08\00:33:07.05
Right.
00:33:07.08\00:33:08.42
Give me Your Spirit
and make me willing.
00:33:08.45\00:33:12.42
And it's hard,
00:33:12.45\00:33:14.29
you know, it's hard...
00:33:14.32\00:33:15.66
But the reward is your joy.
00:33:15.69\00:33:17.03
We can do all
things through Christ.
00:33:17.06\00:33:18.39
That's right.
00:33:18.43\00:33:19.76
All things, even that,
00:33:19.79\00:33:21.20
you know, somebody's been raped.
00:33:21.23\00:33:22.66
How do you forgive
the person that raped you?
00:33:22.70\00:33:24.27
Yeah.
00:33:24.30\00:33:25.63
You know, you said it earlier,
00:33:25.67\00:33:27.60
somebody murdered
your spouse or your child.
00:33:27.64\00:33:30.77
But the Lord has to,
00:33:30.81\00:33:32.14
you have to ask the Lord
00:33:32.17\00:33:33.51
and you said it,
"Pray for that person."
00:33:33.54\00:33:35.68
And, Jill, you
said that, didn't you?
00:33:35.71\00:33:37.38
You had to pray for that person
00:33:37.41\00:33:38.91
that was speaking against
you and didn't in Ephesians,
00:33:38.95\00:33:42.88
pray for those who
speak all kind of evil or...?
00:33:42.92\00:33:45.35
Yeah, that's right. I
think it's in Ephesians.
00:33:45.39\00:33:47.66
Again, too, but we must forgive
because Christ has forgiven us.
00:33:47.69\00:33:53.26
You know, it's amazing.
00:33:53.29\00:33:55.00
I was at a woman's
conference just a few weeks ago.
00:33:55.03\00:33:58.13
And one of the
women came up to me
00:33:58.17\00:34:00.27
at the end of the conference,
00:34:00.30\00:34:01.70
and she said, "My
kid was murdered."
00:34:01.74\00:34:05.54
Oh!
00:34:05.57\00:34:07.21
How do you even
begin to cope with that?
00:34:07.24\00:34:11.31
And it'd been a couple years.
00:34:11.35\00:34:12.81
And every day, you're
just trying to process,
00:34:12.85\00:34:15.78
you're trying to
do what she said,
00:34:15.82\00:34:17.15
"I want to forget, I
know I need to forgive.
00:34:17.19\00:34:21.16
I'm asking God
for His forgiveness."
00:34:21.19\00:34:25.09
But sometimes it's a journey.
00:34:25.13\00:34:26.46
I always look at
forgiveness as an onion,
00:34:26.49\00:34:28.20
I don't know if that's...
00:34:28.23\00:34:29.56
Or an artichoke.
00:34:29.60\00:34:30.93
You know, right,
00:34:30.97\00:34:32.30
so you take one layer,
00:34:32.33\00:34:33.67
and you think,
"Oh, thank you, God,
00:34:33.70\00:34:35.37
I've gotten this
healing and God set me free."
00:34:35.40\00:34:38.71
And then all of a
sudden, there's another layer.
00:34:38.74\00:34:41.38
And you didn't
realize the layer was there
00:34:41.41\00:34:43.58
but in event like
00:34:43.61\00:34:44.95
putting your head back and
this thing triggers, right?
00:34:44.98\00:34:47.38
A flashback or
something to that event,
00:34:47.42\00:34:49.55
and then you got to
maybe work the process again,
00:34:49.58\00:34:52.12
or go back through or
forgive on a deeper level.
00:34:52.15\00:34:56.36
What about forgiving ourselves?
00:34:56.39\00:34:58.59
Because we've been talking
about forgiving other people,
00:34:58.63\00:35:02.20
but what about forgiving myself
00:35:02.23\00:35:05.47
or accepting
Christ's forgiveness for me
00:35:05.50\00:35:08.70
or understanding and
knowing that I can be forgiven.
00:35:08.74\00:35:13.44
Any thoughts on that?
00:35:13.48\00:35:16.34
Oh, go ahead.
00:35:16.38\00:35:17.71
Go ahead. No, no, no.
00:35:17.75\00:35:19.08
It's hard sometimes
to forgive ourselves
00:35:19.11\00:35:21.62
because when we
really see I remember,
00:35:21.65\00:35:25.45
when I had been doing TCM,
00:35:25.49\00:35:30.09
Traditional Chinese
Medicine, acupuncture and all
00:35:30.13\00:35:31.46
and when I realized
00:35:31.49\00:35:33.60
what I was
really doing in terms of
00:35:33.63\00:35:36.06
the spiritualistic
aspects of it and all that,
00:35:36.10\00:35:39.80
when I realized it,
I felt so broken like,
00:35:39.83\00:35:43.14
"Lord, I'm just so sorry."
00:35:43.17\00:35:45.67
Because I realized that
I had been using my gifts
00:35:45.71\00:35:51.18
for a different purpose,
00:35:51.21\00:35:52.55
a purpose that was
not God's purpose for me.
00:35:52.58\00:35:56.15
And I remember crying,
00:35:56.18\00:35:58.85
I went to prayer
meeting that night,
00:35:58.89\00:36:00.26
the night that
I finally realized
00:36:00.29\00:36:02.12
what I was doing.
00:36:02.16\00:36:03.49
And I went to
prayer meeting that night,
00:36:03.53\00:36:04.86
and this couple
00:36:04.89\00:36:06.23
was so loving
toward me and kind.
00:36:06.26\00:36:08.63
And I was just crying
like through prayer meeting,
00:36:08.66\00:36:10.77
I guess they were
like, "What happened?"
00:36:10.80\00:36:12.73
But the
realization of what I had done
00:36:12.77\00:36:17.01
was just so heavy on my spirit.
00:36:17.04\00:36:19.04
And I think,
00:36:19.07\00:36:20.88
we have to realize a few things.
00:36:20.91\00:36:22.61
Number one
00:36:22.64\00:36:23.98
that Jesus blood
covers all of that.
00:36:24.01\00:36:27.55
That's right. Yeah.
00:36:27.58\00:36:29.42
The blood of
Jesus covers every sin
00:36:29.45\00:36:32.72
that I've ever
done, or ever will do.
00:36:32.75\00:36:36.29
And so,
00:36:36.32\00:36:37.83
I love the verses
in Hebrews that...
00:36:37.86\00:36:41.20
Well, let's go to it,
00:36:41.23\00:36:42.56
Hebrews 4.
00:36:42.60\00:36:45.70
I love these verses
00:36:45.73\00:36:48.44
4:15.
00:36:48.47\00:36:52.04
"For we do not
have a high priest
00:36:52.07\00:36:54.28
who cannot
sympathize with our weaknesses,
00:36:54.31\00:36:56.38
but was in all points
00:36:56.41\00:36:57.75
tempted as we
are yet without sin.
00:36:57.78\00:37:00.35
Let us therefore come
boldly, to the throne of grace,
00:37:00.38\00:37:04.29
that we can obtain mercy,
00:37:04.32\00:37:06.45
and find grace to
help in time of need."
00:37:06.49\00:37:09.62
How many times have we needed
00:37:09.66\00:37:11.56
the grace of God to
cover all we mess up?
00:37:11.59\00:37:16.60
I mean, there's a song
that I sing, just once more.
00:37:16.63\00:37:20.17
Oh, yeah. It's beautiful.
00:37:20.20\00:37:22.07
The words are so beautiful.
00:37:22.10\00:37:24.64
Howard Hill wrote the song
00:37:24.67\00:37:26.47
and it has to do
with us when we mess up.
00:37:26.51\00:37:30.75
We can say, "Lord, I'm so sorry.
00:37:30.78\00:37:34.12
Forgive me.
00:37:34.15\00:37:35.72
Forgive me just once more."
00:37:35.75\00:37:38.59
The Lord knows
we're gonna mess up.
00:37:38.62\00:37:40.69
He knows that we are but does.
00:37:40.72\00:37:42.99
So He's given us
as our high priest,
00:37:43.02\00:37:46.63
He's invited us to come
00:37:46.66\00:37:49.26
and to come boldly,
not timidly, but boldly
00:37:49.30\00:37:54.17
and asking Him for forgiveness.
00:37:54.20\00:37:55.90
So if He can forgive me
00:37:55.94\00:37:58.41
and I have to be
able to forgive myself
00:37:58.44\00:38:00.58
because Satan is the
accuser of the brethren.
00:38:00.61\00:38:04.11
And he wants us to
carry this dark thing
00:38:04.15\00:38:08.12
to be self-conscious.
00:38:08.15\00:38:11.22
But God wants us
to be God conscious.
00:38:11.25\00:38:13.62
Amen, that's good.
00:38:13.66\00:38:14.99
Take that. I'll take that.
00:38:15.02\00:38:17.56
Looking at myself,
00:38:17.59\00:38:18.93
yeah, we are to
evaluate ourselves,
00:38:18.96\00:38:20.30
I'm not saying that.
00:38:20.33\00:38:21.66
But we also have to
say, "Lord, I'm so sorry.
00:38:21.70\00:38:26.10
Please forgive me."
00:38:26.13\00:38:27.47
And trust that
the blood of Jesus
00:38:27.50\00:38:30.17
will cover that sin.
00:38:30.21\00:38:31.74
It's not our
righteousness, we're filthy,
00:38:31.77\00:38:34.34
but is the
righteousness of Christ.
00:38:34.38\00:38:36.24
Amen.
00:38:36.28\00:38:37.61
So, yeah, I even, I mean,
00:38:37.65\00:38:39.18
I get choked up
thinking about it now.
00:38:39.21\00:38:40.78
Because you know,
you just think about
00:38:40.82\00:38:42.82
how the devil has used
you to do certain things.
00:38:42.85\00:38:45.65
And you have things in your past
00:38:45.69\00:38:47.12
that you just say, Oh!
00:38:47.16\00:38:49.22
But the Lord says,
00:38:49.26\00:38:50.99
"Come, and I will forgive you
and gives you grace and mercy."
00:38:51.03\00:38:54.96
Amen.
00:38:55.00\00:38:56.33
So when you look at
yourself through your own eyes,
00:38:56.36\00:38:58.23
when I look at
myself through my own eyes
00:38:58.27\00:38:59.80
and my own knowledge,
there's just no hope for me.
00:38:59.83\00:39:04.11
I'm just too...
00:39:04.14\00:39:05.74
Yeah.
00:39:05.77\00:39:07.11
Too much too bad.
00:39:07.14\00:39:08.48
It's just never gonna happen.
00:39:08.51\00:39:10.35
So I've actually asked the Lord,
00:39:10.38\00:39:14.38
you know, can I see
me through Your eyes?
00:39:14.42\00:39:16.45
Help me see You, see me.
00:39:16.48\00:39:18.32
And then I have
to stop and think
00:39:18.35\00:39:19.99
You, Your opinion of me
00:39:20.02\00:39:22.56
was that I was so
precious, you would die for me.
00:39:22.59\00:39:25.56
I have to put the value
on myself that you put on me.
00:39:25.59\00:39:29.03
That's right. Not
that I put on myself.
00:39:29.06\00:39:31.33
And this, that doesn't stop
all of the self-condemnation.
00:39:31.37\00:39:36.00
And you have little
flashbacks once in a while.
00:39:36.04\00:39:38.67
But when I do,
00:39:38.71\00:39:40.98
I turn back to the Lord and say,
00:39:41.01\00:39:43.91
"Lord, let me live
00:39:43.95\00:39:45.81
in Yourself
value of me not myself.
00:39:45.85\00:39:49.28
Let me see me
through Your eyes."
00:39:49.32\00:39:51.75
And that's how I also
want to see other people
00:39:51.79\00:39:55.42
is through His eyes.
00:39:55.46\00:39:56.99
Yes. Yes. Amen.
00:39:57.03\00:39:58.69
And then if you can,
I forgive other people
00:39:58.73\00:40:01.80
because I think they're trying
00:40:01.83\00:40:03.16
as hard as I am
to be a Christian.
00:40:03.20\00:40:05.30
And then I can forgive myself
00:40:05.33\00:40:07.34
because I'm
trying to be a Christian.
00:40:07.37\00:40:09.54
And giving, it
has to be both sides,
00:40:09.57\00:40:12.07
I wanna be forgiving to others.
00:40:12.11\00:40:14.58
So God is forgiving to me.
00:40:14.61\00:40:17.11
I need to give myself a break.
00:40:17.15\00:40:20.65
Right. That's right.
00:40:20.68\00:40:22.15
We should accept
that forgiveness.
00:40:22.18\00:40:23.52
Yes, but we have
to confess our faults,
00:40:23.55\00:40:24.89
the Bible says to one another,
00:40:24.92\00:40:26.39
you don't
confess it to everyone.
00:40:26.42\00:40:27.99
Right.
00:40:28.02\00:40:29.36
You know, if you, you and
me if we have said something,
00:40:29.39\00:40:31.99
I'm like, "Oh, I'm
so sorry, LaDonna."
00:40:32.03\00:40:34.23
You know, I tell
you what I've done.
00:40:34.26\00:40:36.13
And we confess it
to one to another,
00:40:36.16\00:40:37.50
I won't confess
it to all of you.
00:40:37.53\00:40:38.87
Right.
00:40:38.90\00:40:40.24
I confess to you
if I've offended you.
00:40:40.27\00:40:42.44
And it's, I love this here
00:40:42.47\00:40:45.04
'cause it says
here in Hebrews 10:17
00:40:45.07\00:40:49.21
which is absolutely beautiful.
00:40:49.24\00:40:51.31
I love this. Yes.
00:40:51.35\00:40:54.98
Who wants to read that?
00:40:55.02\00:40:58.35
Can we start with 16?
00:40:58.39\00:40:59.72
Yes, go ahead, Jill.
00:40:59.75\00:41:01.09
I love that because to me,
00:41:01.12\00:41:02.46
the new covenant is
a continuation of that.
00:41:02.49\00:41:05.03
"This is the covenant
00:41:05.06\00:41:06.39
I will make with
them after those days,
00:41:06.43\00:41:07.76
says the Lord I will put
my law into their hearts,
00:41:07.80\00:41:11.47
and in their minds
I will write them."
00:41:11.50\00:41:13.54
And, you know, we often think
00:41:13.57\00:41:14.90
the new covenant,
well, this is New Testament
00:41:14.94\00:41:16.87
and the Old
Testament was by works.
00:41:16.91\00:41:18.94
This covenant is in Jeremiah.
00:41:18.97\00:41:20.68
Yes. There you go.
00:41:20.71\00:41:22.04
You know, Jeremiah,
the prophet talks about
00:41:22.08\00:41:23.81
writing God's law in our heart.
00:41:23.85\00:41:25.25
That's right.
00:41:25.28\00:41:26.61
"Then He adds, 'Their
sins and their lawless deeds
00:41:26.65\00:41:30.29
I will remember no more.'"
00:41:30.32\00:41:33.96
That's beautiful
00:41:33.99\00:41:35.32
and the Lord has promised
not to remember our sins,
00:41:35.36\00:41:37.46
I'll cast them into
the depths of the sea.
00:41:37.49\00:41:39.03
Depths of the sea.
00:41:39.06\00:41:40.40
He remembers them no more.
00:41:40.43\00:41:41.76
But we drag them up. Right.
00:41:41.80\00:41:43.13
That's right. We
go fishing like...
00:41:43.16\00:41:44.50
You don't have no fishing sign.
00:41:44.53\00:41:46.74
But listen to this...
00:41:46.77\00:41:48.10
this is from the
Great Controversy,
00:41:48.14\00:41:49.47
it's a short
paragraph, page 483 paragraph 2,
00:41:49.50\00:41:53.78
"All who have
truly repented of sin,
00:41:53.81\00:41:57.21
and by faith
claimed the blood of Christ
00:41:57.25\00:42:00.48
as their atoning
sacrifice, have had pardoned,"
00:42:00.52\00:42:06.32
you know, that we're pardoned,
00:42:06.35\00:42:08.22
"entered against their
names in the books of heaven
00:42:08.26\00:42:12.43
and as they
have become partakers
00:42:12.46\00:42:15.03
of the righteousness of Christ,
00:42:15.06\00:42:17.47
and their characters
are found to be in harmony
00:42:17.50\00:42:20.50
with the law of God,
00:42:20.54\00:42:22.00
their sins will be
blotted out, and they themselves
00:42:22.04\00:42:25.91
will be accounted
worthy of eternal life."
00:42:25.94\00:42:27.91
Amen.
00:42:27.94\00:42:29.28
That's
beautiful. That's beautiful.
00:42:29.31\00:42:31.38
We're counted
worthy of eternal life,
00:42:31.41\00:42:33.11
He blots them out,
00:42:33.15\00:42:34.48
'cause we remember
our what we have done.
00:42:34.52\00:42:37.69
I mean, there's
people out there,
00:42:37.72\00:42:39.55
I know I have,
00:42:39.59\00:42:41.12
how could I have God forgive me,
00:42:41.16\00:42:42.86
what could I've done, you
know, well, I've been so awful,
00:42:42.89\00:42:46.43
but as far as the
east is from the west.
00:42:46.46\00:42:48.16
That's right. Right.
00:42:48.20\00:42:49.53
Psalm 103:12.
00:42:49.56\00:42:51.57
Yes.
00:42:51.60\00:42:52.93
So as he is
removed. That's right.
00:42:52.97\00:42:54.90
So it's beautiful to
know that God has forgiven.
00:42:54.94\00:42:58.24
Yes.
00:42:58.27\00:42:59.61
But we have to
accept it. That's the key.
00:42:59.64\00:43:01.74
Don't you think that's the
key because God forgives us,
00:43:01.78\00:43:04.85
but I need to know
that He forgives me.
00:43:04.88\00:43:07.98
You, know, 1 John 1:9
says, "If we confess our sins,
00:43:08.02\00:43:11.09
He's faithful and
just to forgive us
00:43:11.12\00:43:12.92
and to cleanse us
from all unrighteousness."
00:43:12.95\00:43:14.69
But I can claim that
promise, but if I don't feel it,
00:43:14.72\00:43:19.46
then you're like, wait a minute.
00:43:19.49\00:43:21.33
But when I learned
in my walk with Jesus,
00:43:21.36\00:43:24.80
that I could take the promises
in the Word of God, by faith,
00:43:24.83\00:43:28.87
whether I felt it in my heart,
00:43:28.90\00:43:31.34
whether I felt
forgiven, John 6:37,
00:43:31.37\00:43:34.58
"Whoever comes to me,
I'll never cast this out."
00:43:34.61\00:43:36.34
Yes. I love that.
00:43:36.38\00:43:37.71
So whether I felt that
He would accept me or not?
00:43:37.75\00:43:41.08
When I understood
00:43:41.12\00:43:43.22
that I can claim
those promises in His Word,
00:43:43.25\00:43:46.35
and that I
understood who I am in Jesus.
00:43:46.39\00:43:50.83
What a difference that makes?
00:43:50.86\00:43:53.66
Yes. Amen.
00:43:53.70\00:43:55.03
I love Ephesians.
00:43:55.06\00:43:56.40
I think it's Ephesians 1,
00:43:56.43\00:43:58.30
just talking
about who I am in Jesus.
00:43:58.33\00:44:02.34
Because Satan is the
accuser of the brethren as well,
00:44:02.37\00:44:05.27
we've already talked about.
00:44:05.31\00:44:06.64
You know, Zechariah
3 talks about Joshua.
00:44:06.68\00:44:09.81
And then he standing
in the filthy garments,
00:44:09.84\00:44:12.15
remember,
00:44:12.18\00:44:13.52
and then the angel of
the Lord is standing by
00:44:13.55\00:44:15.82
because Satan is accusing,
00:44:15.85\00:44:18.02
but yet, what
was the word given,
00:44:18.05\00:44:20.39
take away the filthy garments
00:44:20.42\00:44:22.72
and clothe him
in that white robe.
00:44:22.76\00:44:25.49
And when I understand,
and accept, and believe that,
00:44:25.53\00:44:28.53
I have 14 things
of who I am in Christ,
00:44:28.56\00:44:31.20
just in the first
couple of verses here,
00:44:31.23\00:44:33.00
Ephesians 1, we
won't look at all,
00:44:33.03\00:44:35.24
but Ephesians 1:3 says,
00:44:35.27\00:44:38.11
"Blessed be the God and Father
00:44:38.14\00:44:39.47
of our Lord Jesus
Christ, who has blessed us
00:44:39.51\00:44:41.14
so in Christ, I am blessed."
00:44:41.18\00:44:43.81
Verse 4, "Just as
he chose us in him,
00:44:43.85\00:44:46.21
in Christ you are chosen..."
00:44:46.25\00:44:48.65
Yes, that's beautiful.
00:44:48.68\00:44:50.02
"That we should be
holy and without blame,"
00:44:50.05\00:44:51.89
in Christ you are holy,
00:44:51.92\00:44:54.09
in Christ you are without blame.
00:44:54.12\00:44:57.19
"Having predestined us,
in Christ we are predestined
00:44:57.23\00:45:01.16
to be conformed to the
image of God's dear son."
00:45:01.20\00:45:05.00
He predestined us to adoption,
in Christ we are adopted.
00:45:05.03\00:45:10.74
Verse 6, "By which He made
us accepted in the beloved,
00:45:10.77\00:45:13.78
in Christ, you are accepted."
00:45:13.81\00:45:15.58
Yes.
00:45:15.61\00:45:16.95
"In him we have redemption,
in Christ you are redeemed,
00:45:16.98\00:45:21.82
the forgiveness of sins,
in Christ you are forgiven.
00:45:21.85\00:45:25.79
He made them to abound toward us
00:45:25.82\00:45:27.36
and all wisdom and prudence,
00:45:27.39\00:45:28.72
in Christ you have
wisdom and understanding."
00:45:28.76\00:45:32.06
We go down to verse 11,
"We have an inheritance."
00:45:32.09\00:45:35.60
Verse 14, "We are
sealed with the Holy Spirit."
00:45:35.63\00:45:39.10
Yes, yes, yes.
00:45:39.13\00:45:40.97
What does it do
for you, LaDonna,
00:45:41.00\00:45:43.00
to understand that
who you are in Christ,
00:45:43.04\00:45:45.27
what does that do for you?
00:45:45.31\00:45:46.64
Oh, it's overwhelming
to an extent, you know,
00:45:46.68\00:45:48.68
'cause I think we
sometimes forget that.
00:45:48.71\00:45:50.95
I mean, there's a whole lot
00:45:50.98\00:45:52.31
packed into that tiny
scripture right there,
00:45:52.35\00:45:55.05
you know, and just
claim those I think,
00:45:55.08\00:45:57.19
if we could learn
to claim those daily,
00:45:57.22\00:45:59.75
that it would
change our whole outlook,
00:45:59.79\00:46:01.32
it will change
your whole feeling.
00:46:01.36\00:46:03.39
And, you know, the
persona that we put
00:46:03.43\00:46:04.76
across other people
every day, you know, it's just,
00:46:04.79\00:46:08.36
I don't, it
brings tears to my eyes
00:46:08.40\00:46:10.20
and joy to my
heart to know that.
00:46:10.23\00:46:12.33
I am that in God,
that's who He sees in me,
00:46:12.37\00:46:16.24
in you and all of us.
00:46:16.27\00:46:17.61
That's that new creature.
00:46:17.64\00:46:18.97
That's the newness.
00:46:19.01\00:46:20.34
Yes, yeah, it's
absolutely amazing.
00:46:20.38\00:46:23.04
Satan wants to take
our view away from that.
00:46:23.08\00:46:25.08
Right.
00:46:25.11\00:46:26.45
So that's why being in
the word and in scripture,
00:46:26.48\00:46:30.02
and this is why we're
supposed to lift each other up
00:46:30.05\00:46:32.15
to remind each other.
00:46:32.19\00:46:33.76
You are a daughter of
God, you are the Son of God,
00:46:33.79\00:46:38.96
you belong to Him, not to Satan.
00:46:38.99\00:46:41.10
Right. Amen.
00:46:41.13\00:46:42.46
And so, remember that.
00:46:42.50\00:46:44.10
And then that forgiveness
can come so much easier.
00:46:44.13\00:46:47.94
You don't hang on to.
00:46:47.97\00:46:51.21
Oh, I'm so bad.
00:46:51.24\00:46:52.57
Yeah.
00:46:52.61\00:46:54.08
It's easy to do that.
00:46:54.11\00:46:55.44
That's true.
00:46:55.48\00:46:56.81
Let's see if we can take
forgiveness to another level.
00:46:56.85\00:46:58.98
Okay.
00:46:59.01\00:47:00.35
Let's look in Exodus Chapter 33.
00:47:00.38\00:47:03.02
I think it is Exodus 33.
00:47:03.05\00:47:05.95
Now 32.
00:47:05.99\00:47:07.32
This is right
after the golden calf.
00:47:07.36\00:47:09.09
So Moses had given, you know,
00:47:09.12\00:47:11.73
God had given Moses
the law on Mount Sinai.
00:47:11.76\00:47:15.00
And the people had
heard the law spoken.
00:47:15.03\00:47:16.97
And then just such a
short time after that,
00:47:17.00\00:47:19.10
they thought, where's Moses?
00:47:19.13\00:47:21.30
Or has he disappeared to Egypt?
00:47:21.34\00:47:23.10
Where is Moses?
00:47:23.14\00:47:25.11
And they turned away from
God, and worshipped an idol.
00:47:25.14\00:47:30.65
When they had just told
God, all that the Lord has said,
00:47:30.68\00:47:34.22
we will do, right?
00:47:34.25\00:47:35.62
Like seconds afterwards.
00:47:35.65\00:47:36.99
Yes!
00:47:37.02\00:47:38.35
So I hear God sees
the sin of the people
00:47:38.39\00:47:43.63
and Moses
intercedes on their behalf.
00:47:43.66\00:47:48.13
So let's read that.
00:47:48.16\00:47:49.96
Someone have
that, Exodus 32:31-32.
00:47:50.00\00:47:55.67
You do have that, Yvonne? I do.
00:47:55.70\00:47:57.87
"Then Moses returned
to the Lord and said,
00:47:57.91\00:47:59.87
'Oh these people have
committed a great sin,
00:47:59.91\00:48:02.64
and have made for
themselves a god of gold!
00:48:02.68\00:48:04.98
Yet now, if You
will forgive their sin,
00:48:05.01\00:48:08.25
but if not, I pray,
blot me out of Your book,
00:48:08.28\00:48:11.75
which You have written.'"
00:48:11.79\00:48:13.12
Wow! Wow!
00:48:13.15\00:48:15.56
He wants to take all
their sins on Himself?
00:48:15.59\00:48:17.73
Yes. Let me pay the price.
00:48:17.76\00:48:19.96
Wow!
00:48:20.00\00:48:21.33
That is deep.
00:48:21.36\00:48:22.70
You know, honestly, I
don't think I could do that
00:48:22.73\00:48:25.40
like, they're off
on their own thing.
00:48:25.43\00:48:28.04
And, you know, they,
I was up there with God
00:48:28.07\00:48:31.04
and, you know,
hanging and being beaten,
00:48:31.07\00:48:33.34
being like, in the
presence of Almighty God.
00:48:33.38\00:48:36.38
And they're down there
00:48:36.41\00:48:37.75
having orgies and
making golden calves,
00:48:37.78\00:48:40.98
and partying,
and all that stuff.
00:48:41.02\00:48:42.88
And it's like,
00:48:42.92\00:48:44.25
and then he comes
down, and he says,
00:48:44.29\00:48:46.76
"Let me bear the brunt
of all this, not them."
00:48:46.79\00:48:50.06
And for me, like,
I know, I'll be like,
00:48:50.09\00:48:53.56
y'all have messed up
and I'll pray for you.
00:48:53.60\00:48:55.46
Yeah.
00:48:55.50\00:48:56.83
But I'm not trying to
get blotted out of the book.
00:48:56.87\00:48:58.70
He just came down from...
00:48:58.73\00:49:00.07
He was filled with God's
Spirit beyond our belief.
00:49:00.10\00:49:04.04
That's a good point.
00:49:04.07\00:49:05.41
He was filled.
00:49:05.44\00:49:06.78
I don't think the man
that existed could do that
00:49:06.81\00:49:09.34
or the woman could do that.
00:49:09.38\00:49:11.18
But they
couldn't even look at Him.
00:49:11.21\00:49:12.91
He was so lightened
with the presence of Lord.
00:49:12.95\00:49:15.05
The glory of God.
00:49:15.08\00:49:16.42
So the glory of
God so filled Him.
00:49:16.45\00:49:18.65
That's what
allowed Him to do that.
00:49:18.69\00:49:20.32
Yeah.
00:49:20.36\00:49:21.69
So how do we reach a point
00:49:21.72\00:49:23.93
where we can take on...
00:49:23.96\00:49:29.80
That is love.
00:49:29.83\00:49:31.17
To accept?
00:49:31.20\00:49:33.64
But Moses was a type of Christ.
00:49:33.67\00:49:36.10
Jesus was on the
cross, Father forgive them.
00:49:36.14\00:49:39.24
Right.
00:49:39.27\00:49:40.61
You don't know
what they're doing.
00:49:40.64\00:49:41.98
So he was
definitely a type of Christ.
00:49:42.01\00:49:44.88
Yeah. But
they're doing to Jesus.
00:49:44.91\00:49:47.58
And He's asking to forgive them.
00:49:47.62\00:49:49.25
Yeah.
00:49:49.28\00:49:51.39
We're supposed
to be Christ like.
00:49:51.42\00:49:53.52
Like, Stephen, you
know, when he's been stoned.
00:49:53.56\00:49:55.82
You know, what did you say?
00:49:55.86\00:49:57.19
God lay not their
sin to their charge.
00:49:57.23\00:49:59.03
So if it were me, I'd
be struggling with God.
00:49:59.06\00:50:01.96
I'm mad at them right now.
00:50:02.00\00:50:03.60
Right? That would me thinking.
00:50:03.63\00:50:06.60
God, I don't want to
die with unforgiveness.
00:50:06.63\00:50:09.80
So please give
me Your forgiveness.
00:50:09.84\00:50:11.17
Yes.
00:50:11.21\00:50:12.54
But He's gonna
a whole new level.
00:50:12.57\00:50:14.24
Yes, that's true.
00:50:14.28\00:50:15.61
Yeah.
00:50:15.64\00:50:16.98
Thinking about their salvation.
00:50:17.01\00:50:18.35
Yes. Yes. Yeah.
00:50:18.38\00:50:19.71
Instead of me, you know,
00:50:19.75\00:50:21.08
it takes a focus off of me
and it puts it on someone else.
00:50:21.12\00:50:23.82
Yeah.
00:50:23.85\00:50:25.19
Which goes into the whole idea
00:50:25.22\00:50:27.12
that we really,
really need to ask God
00:50:27.16\00:50:29.66
to give us a burden for souls.
00:50:29.69\00:50:31.29
Yes.
00:50:31.33\00:50:32.66
Like, I mean, we have
one, we're in ministry.
00:50:32.69\00:50:34.46
So we do have a burden for souls
00:50:34.50\00:50:35.83
but even more.
00:50:35.86\00:50:37.20
Even more.
00:50:37.23\00:50:38.57
Even more so because
there's so many people
00:50:38.60\00:50:41.04
who don't know the Lord,
00:50:41.07\00:50:43.00
and we can, you
know, share Him with them.
00:50:43.04\00:50:46.54
But we need to have that
heavy, `heavy burden for souls.
00:50:46.57\00:50:52.11
And I think we need to
ask God to give it to...
00:50:52.15\00:50:54.45
If we...
00:50:54.48\00:50:56.82
So if we're in the Word
and we really feel secure
00:50:56.85\00:50:59.85
in our walk with the Lord.
00:50:59.89\00:51:01.59
And we know that we're
covered with His blood,
00:51:01.62\00:51:03.93
maybe this is
why it's so important
00:51:03.96\00:51:06.06
that we feel secure in
our walk with the Lord,
00:51:06.09\00:51:09.23
our salvation is
secure, and we've given up.
00:51:09.26\00:51:11.83
So if we feel that
our salvation is secure,
00:51:11.87\00:51:15.80
then we want somebody else's,
00:51:15.84\00:51:17.17
we don't have to
worry about our own.
00:51:17.21\00:51:20.01
We know we have assurance
because we have this assurance,
00:51:20.04\00:51:23.95
and then we can
actually set self aside.
00:51:23.98\00:51:26.58
I have eternal life,
00:51:26.61\00:51:27.95
I don't have to
worry about this life.
00:51:27.98\00:51:30.32
And then maybe
that's what it takes
00:51:30.35\00:51:33.09
before you can sacrifice
00:51:33.12\00:51:34.62
for somebody else's
assurance of salvation.
00:51:34.66\00:51:37.63
It's really good.
00:51:37.66\00:51:38.99
That's a good point.
00:51:39.03\00:51:40.36
In just a moment,
we're gonna go to prayer,
00:51:40.40\00:51:41.73
and we'll go around the circle
00:51:41.76\00:51:43.10
and everyone will
take a moment to pray.
00:51:43.13\00:51:45.00
But I just wanna make
an appeal to you tonight.
00:51:45.03\00:51:47.54
I don't know if you feel like
00:51:47.57\00:51:49.10
you wanna be a new
creature in Christ.
00:51:49.14\00:51:51.31
You might be feeling
00:51:51.34\00:51:52.67
you're so bound up
as it were in that,
00:51:52.71\00:51:55.18
those bands of
bitterness and unforgiveness
00:51:55.21\00:51:58.75
and it's really an addiction,
I think the holding on to that.
00:51:58.78\00:52:04.52
And yet God says He
came to set you free.
00:52:04.55\00:52:06.55
Amen.
00:52:06.59\00:52:07.92
Whoever the Son
sets free is free indeed.
00:52:07.96\00:52:09.99
So just open up
your heart to Jesus,
00:52:10.03\00:52:11.89
say, "God, I
want You to come in.
00:52:11.93\00:52:14.20
Will You forgive me?
00:52:14.23\00:52:15.56
Will You cleanse me?
00:52:15.60\00:52:17.17
And will You pour Your
forgiveness into my heart
00:52:17.20\00:52:19.23
for someone else."
00:52:19.27\00:52:20.60
So God wants to
bring healing to your life.
00:52:20.64\00:52:24.11
God wants to reveal to
you who you are in Him.
00:52:24.14\00:52:29.14
In Him you're loved
and cherished, and chosen,
00:52:29.18\00:52:32.95
and forgiven.
00:52:32.98\00:52:34.32
So praise His name.
00:52:34.35\00:52:35.68
So we're gonna
spend some time in prayer
00:52:35.72\00:52:37.05
and invite you to
pray at home with us.
00:52:37.09\00:52:40.02
We'll start with Angie. Sure.
00:52:40.06\00:52:41.56
And then go around the circle.
00:52:41.59\00:52:42.92
I'll close.
00:52:42.96\00:52:44.29
Okay, I'll just have
to show with the prayer.
00:52:44.33\00:52:45.93
Our gracious Father in heaven,
00:52:45.96\00:52:47.40
we are so grateful
for Your forgiveness.
00:52:47.43\00:52:50.57
Lord, You said forgive them
00:52:50.60\00:52:52.83
for they do not
know what they're doing.
00:52:52.87\00:52:54.74
You said that on Calvary.
00:52:54.77\00:52:57.57
So, Lord, we just ask
00:52:57.61\00:52:58.94
that You'll
continue to touch our hearts,
00:52:58.97\00:53:00.78
help us to be
willing, to be willing.
00:53:00.81\00:53:03.65
We need to touch
of the Master's hand
00:53:03.68\00:53:05.65
on our lives.
00:53:05.68\00:53:07.02
So, Lord, thank You
00:53:07.05\00:53:08.38
for this wonderful
topic of Forgiveness.
00:53:08.42\00:53:11.72
We all deal with part
of forgiveness in our lives
00:53:11.75\00:53:15.82
and we just ask
that you will continue
00:53:15.86\00:53:17.46
to abide with us,
00:53:17.49\00:53:19.73
we long to see You so,
00:53:19.76\00:53:21.13
Lord, thank You
for abide in with us
00:53:21.16\00:53:24.27
and be in with
us, in Jesus' name.
00:53:24.30\00:53:27.40
Amen.
00:53:27.44\00:53:28.77
Our Dear Heavenly Father,
00:53:28.80\00:53:30.61
You know, how
hard it is for humans,
00:53:30.64\00:53:34.11
we want justice
00:53:34.14\00:53:35.71
and we want
things to be made right
00:53:35.74\00:53:38.28
and yet they
cannot be at this time,
00:53:38.31\00:53:41.02
justice belongs to you.
00:53:41.05\00:53:43.35
And when we
allow the bitterness,
00:53:43.39\00:53:45.65
Father, You know
how it destroys us
00:53:45.69\00:53:48.92
when we have bitter
unforgiveness in our hearts.
00:53:48.96\00:53:52.43
Father, I ask that
it will help each of us
00:53:52.46\00:53:56.67
find that path to
freedom and to joy
00:53:56.70\00:53:59.93
and that new creature in You.
00:53:59.97\00:54:02.44
We will accept Your forgiveness
and let Your forgiveness
00:54:02.47\00:54:06.64
just flow through
us out to others, Lord.
00:54:06.68\00:54:10.11
So there will be a lifting up.
00:54:10.15\00:54:12.11
If You be lifted up, You
will draw all men to You.
00:54:12.15\00:54:15.58
So we just ask
00:54:15.62\00:54:16.95
that You will
continue working in our hearts
00:54:16.99\00:54:19.72
and help us reach a
deeper level of forgiveness
00:54:19.75\00:54:23.96
that we will peel
these onions back there,
00:54:23.99\00:54:26.73
and see how
much deeper we can go
00:54:26.76\00:54:28.56
in giving forgiveness to others,
00:54:28.60\00:54:30.57
that frees us up to
help others to forgive.
00:54:30.60\00:54:34.67
And just start this
wheel rolling of unforgiveness,
00:54:34.70\00:54:37.67
Father, that
will change the world.
00:54:37.71\00:54:40.01
We thank You, Father,
00:54:40.04\00:54:41.38
I praise You for
the price that You paid,
00:54:41.41\00:54:44.05
that we can be forgiven,
00:54:44.08\00:54:46.18
and that we can be
free in You, Father.
00:54:46.21\00:54:48.95
Thank You so much, Father,
00:54:48.98\00:54:51.42
and keep
continuing to show us the way.
00:54:51.45\00:54:55.16
Thank You, Father.
00:54:55.19\00:54:56.86
We just praise You, Lord God,
00:54:56.89\00:54:58.39
that You brought us together
to talk about this topic.
00:54:58.43\00:55:01.20
And we know that
there are people watching
00:55:01.23\00:55:03.90
who are struggling
with this very issue.
00:55:03.93\00:55:07.37
Right now we just pray
00:55:07.40\00:55:08.74
that Your Spirit will
continue to work on them.
00:55:08.77\00:55:11.74
Continue to lead them to You
00:55:11.77\00:55:13.74
to a place of
forgiveness and peace.
00:55:13.78\00:55:16.11
We know that it's Your will
00:55:16.14\00:55:17.48
that they should have
peace in their spirit.
00:55:17.51\00:55:19.58
And so we just asked
You to please bring them
00:55:19.61\00:55:22.15
to a place of peace
because they have forgiven
00:55:22.18\00:55:25.82
because they are
being forgiven by You.
00:55:25.85\00:55:28.92
We thank You, Lord, we know that
00:55:28.96\00:55:31.49
we have to show love to others.
00:55:31.53\00:55:33.36
And by this shall all men
know that we're Your disciples
00:55:33.40\00:55:36.23
if we have love one for another.
00:55:36.26\00:55:38.20
And that love is manifested
in forgiveness as well.
00:55:38.23\00:55:41.40
So help us to
please love others.
00:55:41.44\00:55:43.97
And to please also
to forgive ourselves
00:55:44.01\00:55:46.84
for the things that we've done
00:55:46.88\00:55:48.24
that we know that
we've let You down.
00:55:48.28\00:55:50.38
But we thank You, Lord,
that You have forgiven us.
00:55:50.41\00:55:53.38
Thank You, Lord, we praise You
and bless Your name this day,
00:55:53.42\00:55:56.65
in Jesus' name.
00:55:56.69\00:55:58.02
Amen.
00:55:58.05\00:55:59.39
Yes, Lord, and I just pray
00:55:59.42\00:56:00.76
that You can help us
humbly each day, God,
00:56:00.79\00:56:02.79
to not only draw
others into prayer, God,
00:56:02.82\00:56:07.83
and to remember them.
00:56:07.86\00:56:09.53
If we don't know
how to forgive, God,
00:56:09.56\00:56:11.13
that we will just seek
Your face in that daily.
00:56:11.17\00:56:13.87
God, and that we
will see the importance
00:56:13.90\00:56:16.20
of forgiving ourselves also,
00:56:16.24\00:56:17.97
God, because I believe that
00:56:18.01\00:56:19.74
we've got to be able
to forgive ourselves, God,
00:56:19.77\00:56:21.38
before we can
even begin to think
00:56:21.41\00:56:23.11
about forgiving anyone else.
00:56:23.14\00:56:25.05
And, God, I just thank You
00:56:25.08\00:56:26.41
for the time that
we've got to share here
00:56:26.45\00:56:28.08
during this worship hour.
00:56:28.12\00:56:29.68
And, God, I just pray
00:56:29.72\00:56:31.05
that You be with
those who are tuning in.
00:56:31.09\00:56:33.05
God, that You touch their hearts
00:56:33.09\00:56:34.42
in a special way, God,
00:56:34.46\00:56:36.26
that it would be
a divine appointment
00:56:36.29\00:56:37.79
right there wherever they're at,
00:56:37.83\00:56:39.29
God, and that the
words that were spoken
00:56:39.33\00:56:41.46
can resound with love, God,
00:56:41.50\00:56:44.07
and that
forgiveness can triumph all.
00:56:44.10\00:56:46.47
We pray as You,
God, for who You are.
00:56:46.50\00:56:48.27
And we're so thankful
00:56:48.30\00:56:49.64
for Your love and
forgiveness for us,
00:56:49.67\00:56:51.71
in Jesus' name.
00:56:51.74\00:56:53.78
Thank You, God, that
You are on the throne,
00:56:53.81\00:56:55.84
and that You are
loved, and that You forgive.
00:56:55.88\00:56:59.08
Thank You that You want
to pour that into our hearts,
00:56:59.11\00:57:01.58
we accept and
receive it just now by faith
00:57:01.62\00:57:05.39
in the precious
and holy name of Jesus.
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Amen. Amen.
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Thank you so much.
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I can't believe
our time is gone.
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Angie, and Dee, and Yvonne,
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and LaDonna, thank you, ladies,
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what a privilege
to share together.
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Amen. Thank you.
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And we thank you for joining us
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for Friday Night Family Worship.
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Know that we love you
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and that we will
be praying for you
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that God will
work to set you free.
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We will see you next time.
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God bless you and keep you.
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