I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello and happy Sabbath.
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Welcome to
3ABN's Family Worship.
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I'm Chris Shelton
along with my husband,
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Pastor Kenny Shelton.
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We're gonna be their
host for this evening.
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And what a blessing to be
able to come into your home
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and fellowship with
you, to open the Sabbath,
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talk about things of
the Lord on the Sabbath,
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and draw our
hearts closer to Him.
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What a blessing.
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Before we get
started, we always like to talk
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about who's joining us.
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They're 3ABN
family that's joining us
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around this wonderful table.
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I started on your
side the last time.
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So I'm gonna start
on this side this time.
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I picked on Tim last
time, he got little offensive.
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So I'm gonna pick on Bruce.
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He fits that way.
He does fit that way.
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I know, I know. We
have to tread softly here.
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Bruce, how you
doing? I know you keep busy.
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And what is that center called
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where you receive all the gifts?
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We actually call it
the 3ABN Donation Center.
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Donation Center, yes.
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I always remember what's
that you have in your hand
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that something that
you talked about for years.
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So how is... It
was called the barn.
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The barn?
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It was called the barn,
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but we got a
little more sophisticated.
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It kinda went on, so...
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Hey, the barn wasn't bad
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'cause the barn
was full of goodies.
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And I know people
that come for camp meeting
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which by the way,
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you know, isn't
too far in the future.
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Everyone likes to go to the barn
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because they can find
wonderful gifts to take home
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and it also
supports the ministry.
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Absolutely, yes,
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it's been a great
blessing for 3ABN.
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Amen.
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I know when we have
something from Behold the Lamb
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that we don't know about,
we call on you too and say,
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"Help, Bruce."
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I try to help.
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No one can know
everything about everything.
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Right.
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But, you know, I
tried to do the best I can.
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You should have told me
that. I thought you did.
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Oh, you just busted my bubble.
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And next to me is
my sister-in-law Tammy,
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and it's Bruce's lovely wife.
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Thank you.
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Tammy Chance
Shelton, can't forget that.
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She's got enough Shelton blood.
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I don't know she
could ever drop that
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completely.
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Tammy, tell us again
what you've been up to?
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Raising labs,
labs and lab puppies.
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Big dogs and little
dogs and... Wonderful.
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It's fulfilling and yeah,
and it's a ministry to me.
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So I try to talk to
people about the Lord
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and give
everybody Steps to Christ
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in their puppy folders.
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And so, sometimes you
can reach people that way
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that don't attend church
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or that don't listen to pastors.
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And sometimes I had a...
I'll just tell this real quick.
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I had a man that called
me the other day and he said,
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"Did you put the
Steps to Christ,"
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or he just said
a little booklet.
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He said, "Did you
put this little booklet
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in this folder?
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Are you the one that did that?"
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And I thought, "Oh, boy."
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And I said, "Yes, sir. I am."
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And he said,
"I'll tell you what?
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I'm gonna read it."
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I said, "All
right." Praise the Lord.
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Thank you, Lord. I love that.
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And as long as my
husband's not listening,
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it's a ministry to those of us
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who have one of
your lab puppies too.
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Yes, thank you.
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I think he loves even
though he won't always admit it.
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Amen.
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He is so full of energy.
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He's so happy,
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you know, maybe you'll meet him
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one of these days.
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You know, he
just loves everybody,
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and he loves every
dog in the neighborhood,
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which has been a problem.
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So he's learned to run
off and we finally bought him
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one of these trackers.
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So twice we've had to track him.
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And the first
time we didn't realize
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because he left in
the middle of the night.
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He went in eight hours 24 miles.
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Oh, my goodness.
That's unbelievable.
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Crossing over highways.
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It was so scary is that,
yesterday we tracked him again
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and found him in the woods.
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We got him in woods
the last time Tracking.
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Yes.
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They know how to
get back, you know.
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You can throw
them some miles before,
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they come back
every time, so hey...
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I love him.
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His name is Riley and
he's a beautiful black lab.
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So they're really nice.
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Bruce stepped in the
nursery the other day
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and I was sitting in the
pen, I've got 10 six weeks old.
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And I had one in
this arm, one in this arm,
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both on their backs like
this and I'm rocking them.
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Yeah, I'm rocking them saying...
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He said, "No wonder,
you can't get any..."
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'Cause they're
babies, they're babies.
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Oh, I know it's
beautiful. A can of puppies.
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Okay, we've got a lot
of people that are at home
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and I bet they love puppies too.
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'Cause, I mean,
they bring such joy.
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God gave them to us, you know.
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So, Janelle, tell us about you.
What's new in your department?
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You're in graphics.
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Well, I work in the
publishing department
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and the team that I'm on,
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we work on the
3ABN World Magazine
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and so many other projects
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that are web
based or print based.
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All the
websites, and social media,
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and things like that.
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That is awesome.
That is such a talent.
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I mean, it's very artistic.
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And I love things
that are artistic,
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you get to express that.
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And nothing's
ever the same probably.
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I mean, there's some things
but you get to create a lot.
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It's fun, yeah. Yeah, have fun.
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Yeah.
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She's very patient
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when she comes
to take photographs
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of different
departments and stuff.
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She's very
patient with some of it.
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It's fun, you know, as
every experience is unique.
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You know, we've
taken the photos,
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that helps get to kind of pose
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and arrange things
and that's always fun.
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It's just a little
bit notably different,
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something different to do.
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And I probably
challenge you the most.
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No, no.
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We have fun over
there with you guys.
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I don't know, I think
I have challenged her.
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I'm like, I have no
idea and she'll say,
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"Well, what about this?
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What about that?"
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All right, Brother Timmy Parton.
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Oh, nice. Right.
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You have really
been busy. I have been.
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I mean, I've looked
at some of your schedule
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and I see you more
and more doing a great job
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not just on your channel
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but on the main
3ABN, so tell us?
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I'm very blessed.
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Well, as general manager
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of the Praise Him Music Network,
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of course, we're always
creating content, trying to,
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you know, songs are like three
or four minutes at the longest
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and when you try to run a
24/7 program full of songs,
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that's a lot of little bites.
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Yeah.
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So we're trying to constantly
feed the monster with content,
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new content.
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So very blessed doing that
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and then like you
say also interviewing,
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doing some things
that I never thought
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I would have to do.
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When I always
sat behind the piano,
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it was just easy.
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All I had to need to worry
about was what key I was in
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and where middle C was.
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And then now, oh, my goodness,
I'm having to use words,
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that's out of my comfort zone.
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So, but the Lord has
blessed, He's so good.
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Yes, He will bless as
long as you give it to Him,
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that is so awesome.
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You're doing a good job.
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And I'm around people
who are patient with me
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and gracious so they gave
me an opportunity to be...
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They have some faults,
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but then we'll
get better at it so...
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That's awesome. We
haven't seen those.
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Okay, thank you. See,
for instance, thank you.
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All right, why
don't we open with prayer,
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and then we're gonna sing a song
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and I know that people
at home will sing with us.
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It's going to be
"Draw Me Nearer."
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So Pastor, would
you please pray for us?
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Absolutely, yeah, let's pray.
Pray with us at home please.
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Loving Father in heaven,
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we truly thank You
for this privilege,
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this opportunity to
come before the Lord
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and we just want
to give You praise,
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give You honor,
and give You glory.
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Thank You for
the cross of Calvary.
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Thank You for that
blood that flows so freely
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in our behalf.
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Lord, we claim
that blood right now
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so therefore we come boldly
to the throne to find help
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in our time of need.
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And, Lord, we have a
time of need right now
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as we open the pages of
this book called The Bible.
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Yes.
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We need the power
of thy Holy Spirit
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please to descend upon us,
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be in our hearts and our minds,
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and every
viewer, every listener,
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may their heart
and mind be open.
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May they hear
these beautiful truths
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that You have for
each and every one of us
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and may they accept those
and go deep inside their heart
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and mind and a change
come about in their lives.
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Thank You, Lord, for
hearing, for answering prayer,
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thank You for this panel.
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Thank You for every
viewer, every listener,
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Lord, may they now be
drawn closer to Jesus,
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we pray in Jesus' name, amen.
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Thank you. "Draw Me Nearer."
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I am Thine, O Lord
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I have heard Thy voice
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And it told Thy love to me
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But I long to rise
in the arms of faith
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And be closer drawn to Thee
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Draw me nearer,
nearer, blessed Lord
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To the cross
where Thou hast died
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Draw me nearer,
nearer, nearer, blessed Lord
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To Thy precious, bleeding side
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Consecrate me now
to Thy service, Lord
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By the pow'r of grace divine
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Let my soul look up
with a steadfast hope
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And my will be lost in Thine
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Draw me nearer,
nearer, blessed Lord
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To the cross
where Thou hast died
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Draw me nearer,
nearer, nearer, blessed Lord
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To Thy precious, bleeding side
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O the pure
delight of a single hour
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That before Thy throne I spend
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When I kneel in prayer
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And with Thee, my God
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I commune as friend with friend!
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Draw me nearer,
nearer, blessed Lord
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To the cross
where Thou hast died
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Draw me nearer, nearer,
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Nearer, blessed Lord
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To Thy precious,
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Bleeding side
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Wow! Amen. That was beautiful.
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You know, I think
sometimes we may need
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to just take every
verse and the chorus here
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and break that
down and talk about it,
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wouldn't that be wonderful?
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Beautiful song.
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Last time we were together,
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we did part one
of Truth Transforms.
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And we had the same panel.
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So I asked everyone to come back
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because I know
you've all studied it,
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and you're ready for it.
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And it was such a blessing.
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We were talking last time about
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how we can know
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with all the spiritual confusion
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in the world,
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how we can really
know what truth is.
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That's right.
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And so I'm looking
forward to going on
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because really, we touched
on a lot of different things.
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And I pray, I know
it's a blessing for us here.
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So I pray it was a
blessing for you at home.
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Tonight or today
we're going to cover,
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we're gonna begin to
start talking about those
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who accept the truth
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in the love of it
will die to the world.
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So we want to talk about
that passage a little bit
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and understand
the difference between
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loving the truth
and knowing the truth.
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Good.
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There's a lot of people
that know what truth is.
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But what's really the difference
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when you love the truth.
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So we're gonna start
with a couple of Bible verses.
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And Tim has the
first one, it's Titus 2.
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If you want to open
your Bibles at home,
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Titus 2:11-14.
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And I'm reading from
the Amplified version.
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Titus 2:11-14,
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"For the grace of
God has come forward,
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for the deliverance,
from sin and eternal salvation
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for all mankind.
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It has trained us to reject
and renounce all ungodliness
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and worldly desires to
live discreet, upright,
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devout lives in
this present world."
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Wow!
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"Awaiting and
looking for the fulfillment,
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the realization
of our Blessed Hope,
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even the glorious appearing
of our great God and Savior,
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Jesus Christ, who
gave Himself on our behalf
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that He might redeem
us from all iniquity,
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and purify for
Himself of people,
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eager and
enthusiastic about living a life
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that is good and
filled with beneficial deeds."
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Isn't that beautiful? Wow!
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I know, and
what God wants to do,
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He doesn't
leave us where we are.
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He says, "Come as you are."
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But then He begins
to mould in fashion
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and give us a new
heart, a heart of flesh.
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Okay, and Bruce
has the second one.
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It's Psalm 91:4.
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"He shall cover
thee with his feathers,
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and under his
wings shall thou trust.
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His trust shall be
thy shield and buckler."
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Don't you love that?
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His truth, His
truth shall be thy shield
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and buckler.
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So is truth important?
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Oh, yes. Absolutely.
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I think we definitely
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put a nail on the
head with that one,
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we have decided
absolutely it's vital.
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So we wanna talk about,
what the difference is between
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loving and knowing the truth.
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You know, in part of
that what we're talking about,
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and I think we
mentioned last time
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in our study that,
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almost everybody you talk
to, every Christian you talk to
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in all the different
hundreds of churches and so on,
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each one had
probably an honest heart,
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said we have what?
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Truth.
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We have the truth,
and we are no exceptions.
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We think we have the truth.
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So again, part of our study
should be how we distinguish
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what is truth.
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And I jotted some down, I
thought was very interesting
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and just...
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And then we'll go on with that,
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because, you know,
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if every one of us
teach Jesus Christ,
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the way that we want
to teach Jesus Christ,
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there's always
going to be a difference.
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You know, our background,
the way we were raised
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and maybe some of
our training and so on.
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So there would
always be a difference.
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But if we teach the truth,
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the Bible says, as we
teach the truth, as...
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Notice this, as it is in
Jesus, that's in Ephesians 4:21.
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"Teach the truth
as it is in Jesus,
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then there will
be no difference."
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Now why do I say
there'd be no difference
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in any of us,
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excuse me, as we
teach it in Jesus,
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because the same
Holy Spirit is doing what?
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The work.
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The work, the teaching,
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because it says, was in John 16?
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What is it?
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John 16:13, I think it is,
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that as the Holy
Spirit will lead and guide us
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into all truth.
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Right.
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So the Holy Spirit then
accompanies what is truth.
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I mean, does that makes
sense if we all would teach it,
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and I know what's
everybody gonna say,
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"Yeah, but we do, we do, we do."
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So we have to get
into that part of it.
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But there will not
be various opinions
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of what truth is if we teach it.
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Now let...
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Jesus, we let the Holy
Spirit do the teaching,
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we're gonna find
out there's gonna be
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much more agreement
rather than my church says,
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or the pastor
says, or my friend says.
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What does Jesus say on?
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And then it's going to,
I think make a difference
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if we're willing to,
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and we'll see
that in our lesson,
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Follow Through.
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That's the
difference, Follow Through,
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what we read in the Bible
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and then God gives grace
and strength to follow through.
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Amen.
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But the beautiful
thing is we look to Jesus
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and if we would just
follow in His footsteps,
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did what He has
done, we'll be safe.
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We will be safe.
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Which is the exact point
when you follow, you emulate,
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you copy, you
idol yourself after,
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you know, fashion
yourself after who you follow.
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And I believe that
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that is the
difference in love...
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Knowing the truth and loving it.
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Loving it is living it.
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So it's almost, it's like,
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it's rather than so
much of loving it, it is.
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Do you live it?
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You know, because
there are things that I love
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but that I had because...
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And there are
things that I know.
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I know, you know,
things to eat, right.
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I know ice cream
is not good for me
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but I still love it.
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And, Chris, we get on
this about every time.
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Did we? What? I'm just saying.
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And then I go home and I sulk
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because you don't
like me eating ice cream
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'cause you told me
how bad it is for me.
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What?
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But, and so, you
are the knowledge
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and my palate is the love.
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So I have to
battle between those,
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but when I live the truth,
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that shows that I love
it enough to embrace it
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and to fashion and
model myself after it.
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Exactly.
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Well, truth be told,
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I love the taste
of ice cream too.
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So that's why I have
to get some, what is it?
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Coconut ice cream of Suncity.
Oh, now, don't be ridiculous.
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That's not ice
cream. Really good.
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It is good. It is good.
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No, the good
thing is... Whatever.
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And the good thing
about that is, it's not...
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We say Sister Chris or
Brother Bruce or myself...
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Yes.
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That tells what truth
is and what is good for us.
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The Word of God does so,
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we kind of jolt
back and forth with,
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you know, they say,
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because there are certain people
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who bring to thought,
into mind certain things
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after we've left.
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We'll go and we'll remember
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someone said
something like this is,
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we shouldn't eat
this, we shouldn't do that.
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Praise God for
that because I believe
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that's the Holy
Spirit leading us into truth
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and then Holy Spirit
also convicts us of sin.
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I think John 16
or 13 I think it is,
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or, you know, 16:8, 9, yeah.
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But he gave an
awesome, awesome example
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of knowing
something and loving something
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because it doesn't
matter how much you know
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about the Word of God.
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That's right.
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There are so many
facets of our lives
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that will never ever change
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unless we fall
in love with Jesus.
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Unless we look at
all that He's done
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and think about what He has paid
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for our redemption.
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We will never change.
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And there's different things
that begin to change in us.
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You know, what's our topic?
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Truth Transformed. Yes.
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Knowing the
truth might look like
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we're
transformed on the outside,
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but we're really not gonna
be transformed on the inside.
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It just doesn't work.
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I was just gonna kind of add
to what Tim was saying to you
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and what you're saying,
Chris, about the difference
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between knowing and loving.
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And like, you
know, I guess for me,
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I would define the
knowing as having an awareness,
00:20:13.61\00:20:16.21
but it's just like,
it's there and I'm here,
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but loving it is
like you're saying,
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you're embracing it,
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and you're like,
you're living it.
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And not only that,
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but you're
continually seeking more of it,
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and you're applying what
you're learning as you go,
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you know, and you're
not just staying in there
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but you're actually
seeking more, you know.
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Because you
weren't where you begin...
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In fact, the beautiful thing is,
00:20:36.30\00:20:37.87
if we do not hunger and
thirst for righteousness,
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all we need to do
is pray and ask God,
00:20:41.47\00:20:44.34
ask the Holy Spirit
to give us that desire
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to study, to
hunger for the Word.
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And our part many times is just
submitting our will and saying,
00:20:50.75\00:20:54.98
"Okay, here I am, Lord."
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And to just add to this too is,
00:20:56.85\00:20:58.65
you know, I feel like,
00:20:58.69\00:21:00.02
you know, if we
do love the truth
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we'll share it.
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You know, and we can't
keep what we don't share.
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So it's kind of like,
00:21:06.80\00:21:08.20
if the truth is transforming us,
00:21:08.23\00:21:09.93
we will naturally want
to share that with somebody.
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Praise God. Yes. Amen.
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So we have three things
what we bring out here is,
00:21:13.94\00:21:17.41
knowing the
truth, loving the truth,
00:21:17.44\00:21:20.21
and then simply
follow the truth.
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You know, that's
kind of like somebody
00:21:22.91\00:21:24.45
giving the Bible study,
00:21:24.48\00:21:26.01
and they'll say, or
they may be coming to Christ
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and they'll say, "This is good,
00:21:28.32\00:21:29.65
there's nothing
wrong with this."
00:21:29.68\00:21:31.02
Just open the
Bible and start reading.
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There's a difference in,
you can say three things,
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reading the Word of God,
00:21:34.86\00:21:36.89
and there's difference
in studying the Word of God,
00:21:36.93\00:21:39.43
and there's even a
difference when you study,
00:21:39.46\00:21:41.33
when you won't study
to show thyself approved
00:21:41.36\00:21:43.83
or what is truth.
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Subject matter.
00:21:45.93\00:21:47.27
So we look at all
three different aspects,
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you just say, "Well,
I'm reading the Word,
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I'm reading every day."
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Well, that's good,
but is that really enough?
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Because I'm gonna ask
the panel here once here is,
00:21:53.54\00:21:56.88
what effect does
truth have on the soul?
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What?
00:22:01.55\00:22:02.88
You talking
about taking it inside,
00:22:02.92\00:22:04.25
each one you mentioned, said.
00:22:04.29\00:22:05.62
Does it have an effect
or should it have an effect?
00:22:05.65\00:22:09.42
Does error have an
effect when it goes in?
00:22:09.46\00:22:12.63
And truth and error
is two distinct things.
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And so for somebody
who's drinking in error
00:22:16.16\00:22:18.03
all the time,
00:22:18.07\00:22:19.40
then that's gonna be something
that's not gonna happen.
00:22:19.43\00:22:22.10
Transformation is
not gonna take place.
00:22:22.14\00:22:24.17
But truth... Then
what would truth be?
00:22:24.21\00:22:26.17
Well, it changed in a wrong way.
00:22:26.21\00:22:27.54
Transformation would take
place but may be not the way
00:22:27.58\00:22:28.91
we want it to take place.
00:22:28.94\00:22:31.41
See that goes back
to loving the truth too,
00:22:31.45\00:22:33.75
because, Brother Tim,
00:22:33.78\00:22:35.42
since you
brought up the ice cream,
00:22:35.45\00:22:37.59
and I'm not
saying ice cream here,
00:22:37.62\00:22:39.05
but because we love the
truth when we begin to study.
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Let's say, it's
listening or watching a program
00:22:43.56\00:22:48.13
that has a lot
of expletives on it
00:22:48.16\00:22:51.20
that we shouldn't be watching.
00:22:51.23\00:22:53.80
And, you know, once
the Holy Spirit begins
00:22:53.84\00:22:55.87
to point out those things to us
00:22:55.90\00:22:57.97
that we're to
dwell on the things
00:22:58.01\00:22:59.34
that edify our
bodies, our minds, our souls,
00:22:59.37\00:23:02.38
and but we say,
00:23:02.41\00:23:04.28
"But I love that," you know,
00:23:04.31\00:23:06.05
and every Tuesday
evening it comes on.
00:23:06.08\00:23:08.42
And "Man, I just
really, I've got to unwind."
00:23:08.45\00:23:11.72
You see what I'm saying?
00:23:11.75\00:23:13.09
But because we
love the truth enough,
00:23:13.12\00:23:15.46
we begin to say,
"Lord, You take it from me.
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I give it to you.
Please take it from me."
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May I read what my answer was,
and then we can kind of jump
00:23:23.10\00:23:26.27
'cause we're kind
of touching on it.
00:23:26.30\00:23:27.77
I just wrote it out.
00:23:27.80\00:23:29.14
I hope you don't
mind if I read it to you.
00:23:29.17\00:23:30.91
It says, "Those
who know the truth
00:23:30.94\00:23:33.27
can make a lot of noise.
00:23:33.31\00:23:35.94
They can say a lot of
things but a person's life,
00:23:35.98\00:23:41.05
their thoughts, compassion,"
00:23:41.08\00:23:42.98
listen closely,
"Thoughts, compassion, actions,
00:23:43.02\00:23:45.85
reactions remain
virtually the same."
00:23:45.89\00:23:49.09
So they could know the
truth, talk about the truth,
00:23:49.12\00:23:51.96
you know, maybe
even look like they're,
00:23:51.99\00:23:55.00
you know, living the truth.
00:23:55.03\00:23:56.43
"But all these
things remain the same.
00:23:56.46\00:23:58.43
There's no real
separation from the world."
00:23:58.47\00:24:01.34
Hey, I have been
there years ago when it came
00:24:01.37\00:24:04.37
to accepting
things of the world,
00:24:04.41\00:24:06.44
but I didn't let
go of the things,
00:24:06.47\00:24:08.08
I mean, of the Word,
00:24:08.11\00:24:09.54
I didn't let go of
the things of the world.
00:24:09.58\00:24:11.51
I thought I
could have them both.
00:24:11.55\00:24:13.65
And I didn't understand,
00:24:13.68\00:24:15.02
I was pretty
happy having them both
00:24:15.05\00:24:16.38
to be honest, you know.
00:24:16.42\00:24:17.92
Happens a lot.
00:24:17.95\00:24:19.29
"They can speak words of
Christianity and yet live
00:24:19.32\00:24:22.56
and participate in
worldly attractions."
00:24:22.59\00:24:25.89
On the other hand,
which is what you read
00:24:25.93\00:24:27.80
in that Bible verse.
00:24:27.83\00:24:29.83
"On the other
hand, a love of the truth
00:24:29.86\00:24:32.97
will bring
conviction and conversion."
00:24:33.00\00:24:36.54
You will take time...
00:24:36.57\00:24:38.37
Here it goes, what
we're talking about.
00:24:38.41\00:24:39.74
"You will take
time with those things
00:24:39.77\00:24:41.18
in which you love."
00:24:41.21\00:24:42.54
That's true.
00:24:42.58\00:24:43.91
In other words,
if we love Jesus,
00:24:43.95\00:24:45.98
we're gonna take time
with Jesus every single day,
00:24:46.01\00:24:50.89
not a day goes by.
00:24:50.92\00:24:52.32
I tell you, if I
miss three days in a row
00:24:52.35\00:24:53.86
all of a sudden,
00:24:53.89\00:24:55.22
I've got things
coming to my mind, I'm like,
00:24:55.26\00:24:57.23
"Where did that come from?"
00:24:57.26\00:24:58.59
I don't want to think that.
00:24:58.63\00:24:59.96
I've got to get
back into the Word.
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Love will bring sacrifice...
00:25:02.16\00:25:04.80
Can I say, Brother Tim?
00:25:04.83\00:25:06.67
"Love will bring sacrifice
for the good of the gospel
00:25:06.70\00:25:11.34
and for AA."
00:25:11.37\00:25:13.11
Sister Chris, I can
throw this right back at me.
00:25:13.14\00:25:15.61
Hey, this is all...
00:25:15.64\00:25:17.65
Hey, this came from
me 'cause I lived it.
00:25:17.68\00:25:20.22
"Love will bring sacrifice
for the good of the gospel
00:25:20.25\00:25:23.55
and the good of others."
00:25:23.59\00:25:25.19
Absolutely. Amen.
00:25:25.22\00:25:26.55
You know, so... That's good.
00:25:26.59\00:25:27.92
Well, that's...
00:25:27.96\00:25:29.29
Jesus was the
perfect example of that.
00:25:29.32\00:25:30.89
Amen. Oh, please, yes.
00:25:30.93\00:25:32.26
So that's why we say He is love.
00:25:32.29\00:25:34.26
Yes.
00:25:34.30\00:25:35.63
Because, you
know, He sacrificed,
00:25:35.66\00:25:37.50
He gave up what was,
you know, life, so but He...
00:25:37.53\00:25:40.94
For our better good.
00:25:40.97\00:25:42.64
You know, it's interesting
they say that the distance
00:25:42.67\00:25:47.28
between knowledge
00:25:47.31\00:25:51.01
and love or is like 18 inches.
00:25:51.05\00:25:55.05
It's from our
brain to our heart.
00:25:55.08\00:25:57.69
So that's the difference,
00:25:57.72\00:25:59.25
you know, from
our head knowledge,
00:25:59.29\00:26:00.92
from what we know the
truth and what we love.
00:26:00.96\00:26:03.96
So it's an
interesting, wonderful.
00:26:03.99\00:26:05.76
What if you're seven foot tall?
00:26:05.79\00:26:07.36
Well...
00:26:07.40\00:26:10.17
Bruce, what do
you think about that?
00:26:10.20\00:26:12.37
More study in the Word
of God, that's right, yeah.
00:26:12.40\00:26:15.14
He's thinking of basketball.
00:26:15.17\00:26:17.11
You know, you
didn't have to say that.
00:26:17.14\00:26:18.57
I think that was...
00:26:18.61\00:26:19.94
I think part of
what you mentioned was,
00:26:19.97\00:26:21.71
we kind of do
what we love to do,
00:26:21.74\00:26:24.28
what we like to do.
00:26:24.31\00:26:25.65
We make time for
what we like to do.
00:26:25.68\00:26:29.38
Tammy, you can remember that,
dad would say to mom sometimes.
00:26:29.42\00:26:32.49
I was thinking the exact thing.
You're saying the same thing.
00:26:32.52\00:26:34.42
Yeah, well, correct me
if I get off track here,
00:26:34.46\00:26:37.56
you can add too.
00:26:37.59\00:26:39.53
It's and I'll give
illustration of it, she...
00:26:39.56\00:26:43.00
Not kind of a distant friend
but a friend had passed away.
00:26:43.03\00:26:46.50
And she was, you know,
there's gonna have a funeral
00:26:46.53\00:26:49.00
and mom was busy
doing a lot of stuff
00:26:49.04\00:26:50.64
and I remember
shuffling around the house.
00:26:50.67\00:26:52.31
And she said, "I tell you,
00:26:52.34\00:26:53.68
I really need to
go to that funeral.
00:26:53.71\00:26:55.04
I really need to
go to that funeral."
00:26:55.08\00:26:56.75
Dad said,
"Well, go ahead and go.
00:26:56.78\00:26:58.68
You know, if you
need to, go ahead and go."
00:26:58.71\00:27:00.18
So she shuffled
around little long, she said,
00:27:00.22\00:27:01.88
"No, I really need to go."
00:27:01.92\00:27:04.15
He said, "Honey, if you
really thought you needed to go,
00:27:04.19\00:27:06.39
you would, because you
do other things that way."
00:27:06.42\00:27:09.12
She said, "Oh,
well, that's right,
00:27:09.16\00:27:11.06
if I really wanted to, I would."
00:27:11.09\00:27:13.06
Wow!
00:27:13.09\00:27:14.43
That's in studying the
Word, that's taking time to do
00:27:14.46\00:27:16.43
what we should do,
that's accepting truth,
00:27:16.46\00:27:19.27
things that we're
learning as truth.
00:27:19.30\00:27:21.37
And then again, remember,
we are accountable, Tammy.
00:27:21.40\00:27:25.37
We are accountable
00:27:25.41\00:27:26.74
for what we understand is truth.
00:27:26.78\00:27:30.11
And so that's a
lot of accountability.
00:27:30.15\00:27:31.71
You used to talked
about the mind, knowledge,
00:27:31.75\00:27:33.55
we try to put a lot
of knowledge in up here
00:27:33.58\00:27:34.98
and lot of people like
to have it for, maybe for,
00:27:35.02\00:27:37.72
you know, conversation
they want to have for debate,
00:27:37.75\00:27:40.72
but I want to
have because I know...
00:27:40.76\00:27:42.52
It's 1 Peter 1:22.
00:27:42.56\00:27:45.29
It says, "With a
purify..." Notice this.
00:27:45.33\00:27:48.00
"Purify our souls
by obeying the truth."
00:27:48.03\00:27:53.80
To me that's big words. Right.
00:27:53.84\00:27:55.84
Purified, or set
apart, or made holy,
00:27:55.87\00:27:59.87
victory over sin comes
from having truth inside of us,
00:27:59.91\00:28:04.11
truth is none other
than, of course, Jesus,
00:28:04.15\00:28:05.81
the Holy Spirit.
00:28:05.85\00:28:07.78
And none of us will make it
to the kingdom without that.
00:28:07.82\00:28:09.82
So, I mean, that's
just, to me that's big word.
00:28:09.85\00:28:12.42
You just gave the
definition of sanctify.
00:28:12.45\00:28:14.66
Right. You did.
00:28:14.69\00:28:16.32
We haven't got to it yet.
00:28:16.36\00:28:17.69
Right. Right.
00:28:17.73\00:28:19.06
But I like what he says because,
00:28:19.09\00:28:22.43
you know, so often we
don't want to do those things,
00:28:22.46\00:28:28.17
but if we have a love for Jesus,
00:28:28.20\00:28:31.34
then that will change.
00:28:31.37\00:28:32.71
We will make time for it,
00:28:32.74\00:28:34.34
because we know it's
the right thing to do.
00:28:34.38\00:28:36.38
You know, the Bible is described
00:28:36.41\00:28:37.75
as a two-edged sword.
00:28:37.78\00:28:39.11
It's gonna cut,
it's gonna separate,
00:28:39.15\00:28:40.48
it's gonna divide.
00:28:40.52\00:28:41.85
There's a lot of
things in there that,
00:28:41.88\00:28:43.22
we living in this world,
00:28:43.25\00:28:44.69
we don't even understand
as being wrong, Tammy,
00:28:44.72\00:28:47.79
until we begin to study
and all of a sudden it's like,
00:28:47.82\00:28:50.33
oh, praise God
that He's our physician,
00:28:50.36\00:28:54.33
that He's doing
that cutting, He's doing.
00:28:54.36\00:28:56.23
So we're not to cut
each other, you know.
00:28:56.26\00:28:59.33
Sometimes that happens
and we were just funning.
00:28:59.37\00:29:01.94
So those of you at home,
00:29:01.97\00:29:03.41
Tim and I were
just kind of teasing
00:29:03.44\00:29:05.71
each other here this morning.
00:29:05.74\00:29:07.08
It's all in good faith.
00:29:07.11\00:29:08.44
Is it dangerous, let
me ask a question there.
00:29:08.48\00:29:10.35
Bruce, Tammy, anybody,
can knowledge be dangerous?
00:29:10.38\00:29:13.98
Oh, sure. Absolutely.
00:29:14.02\00:29:15.35
You know, and then
how can it be dangerous,
00:29:15.38\00:29:17.65
because in the
world that we live in,
00:29:17.69\00:29:19.75
and if I'm mistaken here.
00:29:19.79\00:29:21.92
We want a good education,
00:29:21.96\00:29:23.29
we want children
to have good education
00:29:23.32\00:29:24.93
and we want knowledge,
00:29:24.96\00:29:26.56
but can at least
in the spiritual realm
00:29:26.59\00:29:29.00
can it be dangerous?
00:29:29.03\00:29:30.87
And I found one Bible
passage and you can...
00:29:30.90\00:29:32.63
Then we can go
from here with it.
00:29:32.67\00:29:34.00
It said there in
1 Corinthians 8:1,
00:29:34.04\00:29:36.30
"Knowledge puffeth
up," you know, puffeth up,
00:29:36.34\00:29:39.84
"But charity," notice
this, "Charity edifyeth."
00:29:39.87\00:29:44.28
Love edifyeth.
00:29:44.31\00:29:45.65
Yes. Right?
00:29:45.68\00:29:47.02
But knowledge
used in the wrong way,
00:29:47.05\00:29:49.62
it puffs it up and
gives us we call the big head.
00:29:49.65\00:29:53.46
You've heard, they said,
00:29:53.49\00:29:54.82
they know just
enough to be dangerous.
00:29:54.86\00:29:56.22
Yeah. I've been that a lot.
00:29:56.26\00:29:59.33
Yeah, absolutely.
You know what I mean?
00:29:59.36\00:30:01.93
But the thing here is,
00:30:01.96\00:30:04.77
it can hurt our
Christian experience
00:30:04.80\00:30:06.94
if we just always
think we have the answer
00:30:06.97\00:30:09.60
and that's all we're
interested in the answer
00:30:09.64\00:30:11.31
and not letting it,
as I mentioned here,
00:30:11.34\00:30:12.97
come inside of us
00:30:13.01\00:30:14.34
and do a work that
I desperately need.
00:30:14.38\00:30:16.71
And I can't do
that from here, true.
00:30:16.75\00:30:18.18
Especially when we're
dealing with unbelievers,
00:30:18.21\00:30:20.95
you know, we don't...
00:30:20.98\00:30:22.55
We use the
knowledge but we don't have...
00:30:22.58\00:30:25.62
Tamper it with love.
00:30:25.65\00:30:27.39
And so we're all
accusatory and condemning.
00:30:27.42\00:30:31.09
Love edifyeth.
00:30:31.13\00:30:32.46
Yeah, right,
exactly. Points it up, right?
00:30:32.49\00:30:33.83
Right. Right.
00:30:33.86\00:30:35.20
It shows out, why...
00:30:35.23\00:30:36.56
But you know why we
give them Bible studies.
00:30:36.60\00:30:38.03
You know, why do
you give Bibles study?
00:30:38.07\00:30:39.63
Why do you put books,
00:30:39.67\00:30:41.00
you know, and
give those things out.
00:30:41.04\00:30:42.37
Right.
00:30:42.40\00:30:43.74
Is it to edify Christ, isn't it?
00:30:43.77\00:30:45.11
To build up the
cause of Christ, isn't it?
00:30:45.14\00:30:46.64
Exactly.
00:30:46.68\00:30:48.01
It's like when we
send our kids to college
00:30:48.04\00:30:50.85
and we want them
to have education.
00:30:50.88\00:30:52.68
Sometimes they come home
00:30:52.71\00:30:54.28
believing what
they've been taught.
00:30:54.32\00:30:57.09
You know, and
some of those things
00:30:57.12\00:30:58.59
that they're taught
is completely contrary
00:30:58.62\00:31:01.09
to what we believe as Christians
00:31:01.12\00:31:02.76
and when they hear it
over and over and over,
00:31:02.79\00:31:05.66
and they're starting
to say this and, you know,
00:31:05.69\00:31:08.03
this is how the world was formed
00:31:08.06\00:31:09.90
and this is how we were formed.
00:31:09.93\00:31:11.27
Then all of a sudden
they started out in God.
00:31:11.30\00:31:13.54
Yeah, so knowledge,
once again, it came up,
00:31:13.57\00:31:16.74
as I looked the passage,
I thought very interesting,
00:31:16.77\00:31:18.67
Ephesians 3:19 says,
00:31:18.71\00:31:20.48
"And to know
the love of Christ,"
00:31:20.51\00:31:22.64
notice, "to know
the love of Christ,
00:31:22.68\00:31:25.38
passes all knowledge."
00:31:25.41\00:31:27.98
Wow!
00:31:28.02\00:31:29.35
See it's more
important to know Jesus Christ.
00:31:29.38\00:31:31.95
Listen, I can get to
heaven by the grace of God
00:31:31.99\00:31:34.09
with the help of my report card.
00:31:34.12\00:31:35.69
Right, there you
go. There you go.
00:31:35.72\00:31:37.56
Are you still with
me? Yes, absolutely.
00:31:37.59\00:31:39.19
Man with an A might not.
00:31:39.23\00:31:40.56
I thank you hear what
I'm talking about there.
00:31:40.60\00:31:42.26
It's our love for Jesus
Christ, it passes all knowledge.
00:31:42.30\00:31:46.94
Again, why do I want to
read and learn the Bible?
00:31:46.97\00:31:49.07
So it would transform
me and then God can use me
00:31:49.10\00:31:51.87
to help transform someone else.
00:31:51.91\00:31:54.58
There's a reason why you want.
00:31:54.61\00:31:55.94
And, you know,
it's not a bad thing.
00:31:55.98\00:31:57.31
Like you're saying,
it's not a bad thing
00:31:57.35\00:31:58.68
to have that knowledge
00:31:58.71\00:32:00.05
but when you need to mix that,
it's love and truth together,
00:32:00.08\00:32:04.22
you know, it's
in mercy and truth.
00:32:04.25\00:32:06.15
In the mercy that we
need to have on others
00:32:06.19\00:32:08.32
that are not...
00:32:08.36\00:32:09.69
Don't have the
understanding that we have is,
00:32:09.72\00:32:11.86
you know, can I share
this in a way that is,
00:32:11.89\00:32:14.53
you know, they'll receive
it in a good way instead of,
00:32:14.56\00:32:17.17
you know, like
backing away from me,
00:32:17.20\00:32:19.63
you know, like,
00:32:19.67\00:32:21.00
if you ever have that
kind of reaction from somebody,
00:32:21.04\00:32:22.77
you know, it's
all in vain, you know.
00:32:22.80\00:32:26.31
What do you like
if someone's coming up
00:32:26.34\00:32:27.68
and sharing Jesus
00:32:27.71\00:32:29.04
and they're going
to tell you everything,
00:32:29.08\00:32:30.65
and how's it
going instead of maybe,
00:32:30.68\00:32:33.38
I like it
personally someone comes up
00:32:33.42\00:32:35.02
and asked me a question about it
00:32:35.05\00:32:36.38
or challenged
me with a question.
00:32:36.42\00:32:38.79
I know you believe
this but, you know,
00:32:38.82\00:32:40.16
I read this in Scripture,
what do we do with this?
00:32:40.19\00:32:42.69
Right, more of a conversation
instead of monologue.
00:32:42.72\00:32:44.43
Conversation
between too much. Right.
00:32:44.46\00:32:46.36
Like, whoa! In my face.
00:32:46.39\00:32:48.40
What I started doing for
years was just asking the Lord
00:32:48.43\00:32:51.23
to open a door.
00:32:51.27\00:32:52.70
You know, many times you
shared how you asked Lord,
00:32:52.73\00:32:55.24
put someone in my path today.
00:32:55.27\00:32:57.01
I want to jump back,
00:32:57.04\00:32:58.37
'cause I really never
got to finish them answering
00:32:58.41\00:33:00.68
what I was talking about earlier
00:33:00.71\00:33:02.81
when you talked about obedience.
00:33:02.84\00:33:05.28
Oh, yes.
00:33:05.31\00:33:06.65
Because, I mean,
obedience is such a big thing
00:33:06.68\00:33:08.68
and you don't realize it.
00:33:08.72\00:33:10.15
You know, a lot
of times people say,
00:33:10.19\00:33:11.59
"Well, all you have to
do is love, love, love.
00:33:11.62\00:33:13.79
Well, when I
started reading my Bible,
00:33:13.82\00:33:15.36
I kept seeing this word,
00:33:15.39\00:33:16.73
obedience, obedience, obedience,
00:33:16.76\00:33:18.09
obey, and I will.
00:33:18.13\00:33:19.49
You know, His promises
are always on condition
00:33:19.53\00:33:22.46
of obedience.
00:33:22.50\00:33:25.53
And that's why I was trying
to get at is a lot of things
00:33:25.57\00:33:28.17
when we study the Bible
we didn't realize were wrong,
00:33:28.20\00:33:31.07
but, you know,
00:33:31.11\00:33:32.44
as we begin to study
the Bible and take time
00:33:32.47\00:33:34.94
because of what
we're beginning to love,
00:33:34.98\00:33:37.48
it may not be
that we love God enough
00:33:37.51\00:33:40.72
to give our lives at that point.
00:33:40.75\00:33:42.52
You see what I'm saying,
00:33:42.55\00:33:43.89
it's kind of a
progressive revelation,
00:33:43.92\00:33:45.59
praise God for that.
00:33:45.62\00:33:47.59
But as we progress
and we draw closer to Him
00:33:47.62\00:33:49.82
and we're studying Him,
00:33:49.86\00:33:51.56
there's gonna be times
that God is gonna call us
00:33:51.59\00:33:54.43
to obedience
00:33:54.46\00:33:55.80
and our flesh is
gonna rise up against it.
00:33:55.83\00:33:57.73
Right, yeah.
00:33:57.77\00:33:59.10
So you see
there's a real choice.
00:33:59.13\00:34:01.17
So I think the love of the truth
00:34:01.20\00:34:04.54
needs to trump
00:34:04.57\00:34:06.27
how we feel at that time.
00:34:06.31\00:34:08.38
Absolutely.
00:34:08.41\00:34:09.74
You know, I was
thinking earlier,
00:34:09.78\00:34:11.11
I'm glad you said
that because, you know,
00:34:11.15\00:34:12.48
something you said earlier
even tied in with that that,
00:34:12.51\00:34:15.18
you know, like we can
say we love to eat those,
00:34:15.22\00:34:19.15
or we love to
watch that or whatever.
00:34:19.19\00:34:20.99
But how do we
really define love?
00:34:21.02\00:34:23.36
You know, we're talking
about the love of the truth.
00:34:23.39\00:34:25.29
And to me, that's two
totally different kinds of love.
00:34:25.33\00:34:28.16
It's like,
00:34:28.20\00:34:30.13
you like that
story, you love that stuff
00:34:30.17\00:34:31.93
because it makes you feel
good like it's in the flesh,
00:34:31.97\00:34:34.37
but we love the truth
because like you're saying,
00:34:34.40\00:34:36.10
it cuts and it heals
and it transforms us.
00:34:36.14\00:34:39.07
And that's a different...
00:34:39.11\00:34:40.44
To me, that's a
different kind of love.
00:34:40.48\00:34:41.81
And, you know,
00:34:41.84\00:34:43.18
to say that we love
something that's on this earth,
00:34:43.21\00:34:45.51
it's really a
totally different motive.
00:34:45.55\00:34:47.62
Oh, yes.
00:34:47.65\00:34:48.98
Could it be a selfish
love, is that what can be.
00:34:49.02\00:34:52.22
I like something I know
it hurts me, but I like it.
00:34:52.25\00:34:54.16
So that's a selfish,
00:34:54.19\00:34:55.52
wouldn't that be
a selfish behavior?
00:34:55.56\00:34:56.89
And why would we worry
about things hurting our body?
00:34:56.93\00:35:01.36
It's only because in the
Bible we go back, and our body,
00:35:01.40\00:35:04.80
Jesus says, it's the temple,
00:35:04.83\00:35:06.53
and those who
destroy this temple,
00:35:06.57\00:35:08.47
He says, I will destroy.
00:35:08.50\00:35:09.84
So we have to be very careful.
00:35:09.87\00:35:11.64
We live in a
world and in a country
00:35:11.67\00:35:13.68
where they're
messing with our food
00:35:13.71\00:35:15.04
in so many different ways.
00:35:15.08\00:35:16.95
It's difficult to find
things that are really healthy,
00:35:16.98\00:35:19.88
really build good blood cells.
00:35:19.91\00:35:21.98
And why does God
want these temples
00:35:22.02\00:35:23.55
to be healthy?
00:35:23.59\00:35:25.05
So the Holy Spirit can
work in and through us,
00:35:25.09\00:35:29.06
and we have a clear mind.
00:35:29.09\00:35:30.43
Because if we're
sick and we can't think,
00:35:30.46\00:35:33.09
then we're gonna
continue to make bad decisions.
00:35:33.13\00:35:35.50
You know, so...
00:35:35.53\00:35:36.87
You brought up one
there and I jot this down,
00:35:36.90\00:35:39.13
so I'm not trying to get way off
00:35:39.17\00:35:41.27
the subject or anything about it
00:35:41.30\00:35:42.64
because we're talking
about sanctification here too,
00:35:42.67\00:35:44.71
aren't we?
00:35:44.74\00:35:46.07
Mm-hmm. Yes.
00:35:46.11\00:35:47.44
Almost. We're almost.
00:35:47.48\00:35:48.81
We're not quite there yet.
00:35:48.84\00:35:50.18
I'm going to get
ahead, I just got to get ahead
00:35:50.21\00:35:51.55
and just be front.
00:35:51.58\00:35:52.91
I got to do
because she asked for...
00:35:52.95\00:35:54.28
When she talked about
something about health
00:35:54.32\00:35:55.65
and it's so very, very important
00:35:55.68\00:35:57.52
because I realized that
God wants us be sanctified,
00:35:57.55\00:36:00.66
He wants us to
be more set apart.
00:36:00.69\00:36:02.02
He wants to use us.
00:36:02.06\00:36:03.39
He wants us to be holy.
00:36:03.43\00:36:04.76
That's the only individual
who will repopulate heaven.
00:36:04.79\00:36:06.90
I'm convinced of that,
00:36:06.93\00:36:08.26
so I see my
great need of a savior.
00:36:08.30\00:36:10.77
See, must understand, say,
oh, I'm saved, I'm ready to go.
00:36:10.80\00:36:14.50
I see my need of a
savior desperately.
00:36:14.54\00:36:17.47
And so what I
read these things here,
00:36:17.51\00:36:19.11
and we're really
working on and so on so forth.
00:36:19.14\00:36:21.31
And it's not to try to hurt
anyone or discourage anyone.
00:36:21.34\00:36:24.65
But it says here
Three Testimonies 162.
00:36:24.68\00:36:27.22
Says, "Man cannot be sanctified,
00:36:27.25\00:36:29.38
while cherishing,"
00:36:29.42\00:36:30.75
notice this, "Cherishing health,
00:36:30.79\00:36:32.62
destroying habits."
00:36:32.65\00:36:35.42
You can't be sanctified,
set apart for holy use.
00:36:35.46\00:36:39.89
To be ready for heaven,
00:36:39.93\00:36:41.63
if we're willfully, knowingly
00:36:41.66\00:36:44.43
taking things into our temple...
00:36:44.47\00:36:46.30
that's what the Bible says...
00:36:46.33\00:36:47.70
That's very
convicting. To destroy.
00:36:47.74\00:36:49.07
That is...
00:36:49.10\00:36:51.31
And I have to read it and
it wasn't for anybody else.
00:36:51.34\00:36:53.81
It was for me. Yeah.
00:36:53.84\00:36:55.18
I've never read anything.
00:36:55.21\00:36:56.54
I think by the grace of God,
00:36:56.58\00:36:57.91
I've learned that
lesson many, many years ago
00:36:57.95\00:36:59.28
as a youngster.
00:36:59.31\00:37:00.65
I never read and say
this is good for so and so.
00:37:00.68\00:37:03.12
Every time I read
it, even though it hurts,
00:37:03.15\00:37:05.89
and even though it's
something selfish, maybe,
00:37:05.92\00:37:07.76
I'm gonna have to
give up, because I realize,
00:37:07.79\00:37:10.99
"I don't have to give
up, but God asked me to."
00:37:11.03\00:37:12.69
He says, "It's hurting you."
00:37:12.73\00:37:14.06
You want to give it.
00:37:14.10\00:37:15.43
I want to give
it up, because I...
00:37:15.46\00:37:16.80
Especially, yeah.
00:37:16.83\00:37:18.17
I'm the same way, but, you know,
00:37:18.20\00:37:19.53
one of the worst deaths
00:37:19.57\00:37:20.90
I've ever seen anybody
died from is lung cancer.
00:37:20.94\00:37:24.97
And yet
00:37:25.01\00:37:26.61
the cigarette smoking
00:37:26.64\00:37:27.98
was the cause
of the lung cancer.
00:37:28.01\00:37:30.35
But the whole time
they're barely breathing,
00:37:30.38\00:37:33.58
they're still smoking.
00:37:33.62\00:37:35.32
It's so hurtful.
00:37:35.35\00:37:36.69
And, you know,
and it is hurtful.
00:37:36.72\00:37:38.05
But sanctification is impossible
00:37:38.09\00:37:40.96
while we disobey
God's commandments.
00:37:40.99\00:37:44.03
It's an impossibility.
Think about that one.
00:37:44.06\00:37:46.66
That gets heavier again,
00:37:46.70\00:37:48.46
how can we be sanctified
00:37:48.50\00:37:49.96
if we're breaking
one of God's commandment?
00:37:50.00\00:37:51.83
That's pretty heavy duty
stuff that we need to sort out,
00:37:51.87\00:37:54.20
because we're looking
at truth that transforms.
00:37:54.24\00:37:56.37
So there's hope
and help for everybody.
00:37:56.40\00:37:58.44
Well, and what
we're talking about here,
00:37:58.47\00:38:00.08
it's getting personal,
it's hitting home, it's hit me,
00:38:00.11\00:38:03.31
I have been beat up here
with stuff so many times.
00:38:03.35\00:38:06.92
I mean black and blue literally.
00:38:06.95\00:38:09.25
Your mom used to come out
of the sanctuary and saying,
00:38:09.28\00:38:11.45
"Kenny, why just
stepped on my toes."
00:38:11.49\00:38:13.32
You know...
00:38:13.36\00:38:15.22
But John 15:18 reads,
00:38:15.26\00:38:19.19
"If the world hate you,
00:38:19.23\00:38:21.13
you know that it hated
me before it hated you."
00:38:21.16\00:38:23.60
You see the Bible says
that, "Let this mind be in you,
00:38:23.63\00:38:26.47
which is also in Christ Jesus."
00:38:26.50\00:38:28.40
So as we draw close to
Him, as we're in love with Him,
00:38:28.44\00:38:31.57
as His mind is
becoming our mind,
00:38:31.61\00:38:35.28
it's only then
that we begin to see,
00:38:35.31\00:38:37.71
you know, we're barely getting,
00:38:37.75\00:38:40.45
we're becoming
separate from the world.
00:38:40.48\00:38:42.12
We're really not like the world.
00:38:42.15\00:38:44.55
You know, remember
the Christ calls us
00:38:44.59\00:38:46.19
to be that
peculiar separate people.
00:38:46.22\00:38:48.42
And...
00:38:48.46\00:38:49.79
And how far does that go?
00:38:49.82\00:38:51.19
It goes long way.
00:38:51.23\00:38:52.56
That's all for discussion,
is how far does that go,
00:38:52.59\00:38:54.70
because people say
well that doesn't include
00:38:54.73\00:38:57.67
my family or da-da, da-da.
00:38:57.70\00:38:59.83
When it says, come
apart and be separate.
00:38:59.87\00:39:01.44
I mean, that's heavy
duty as how far do we go
00:39:01.47\00:39:04.21
with that according
outline of the Word of the God,
00:39:04.24\00:39:07.28
not because somebody
said we can have this
00:39:07.31\00:39:09.44
but, you know, where's our mind,
00:39:09.48\00:39:11.25
is it on heavenly things
00:39:11.28\00:39:12.61
or is it on things of the world.
00:39:12.65\00:39:13.98
And it's very difficult to,
00:39:14.02\00:39:16.18
can I say hang around
with those who have the world,
00:39:16.22\00:39:18.85
and things of the
world going on all the time,
00:39:18.89\00:39:20.76
because that's...
00:39:20.79\00:39:22.12
I pray to God
that's not in my mind.
00:39:22.16\00:39:23.86
I like to be around
those who're talking
00:39:23.89\00:39:25.46
about the Word of God
00:39:25.49\00:39:26.83
or, you know,
your Christian folks
00:39:26.86\00:39:28.30
are giving you
something to chew on.
00:39:28.33\00:39:31.03
And the separation
sometime comes from family
00:39:31.07\00:39:33.54
or friends or different one,
not because you want it to...
00:39:33.57\00:39:35.80
Right, yeah.
00:39:35.84\00:39:37.17
But you no longer
have anything in...
00:39:37.21\00:39:38.57
Does that make
sense? Anything in common?
00:39:38.61\00:39:41.28
Has anybody seen that?
Have you experienced that?
00:39:41.31\00:39:44.08
Oh, yes. Oh, yes.
00:39:44.11\00:39:45.45
That we had to separate
from other people that were...
00:39:45.48\00:39:47.05
I've seen all through my life.
00:39:47.08\00:39:48.78
And not because that's
any bad at all I talk about.
00:39:48.82\00:39:50.92
It was just things
that bothered my consensus.
00:39:50.95\00:39:53.39
I heard them talk
about a different thing.
00:39:53.42\00:39:54.82
I thought, I don't
want to talk about,
00:39:54.86\00:39:56.19
I don't want to
hear about those things.
00:39:56.22\00:39:58.39
Sorry, go ahead.
No, ladies first.
00:39:58.43\00:40:00.73
You know, I was just
thinking something that,
00:40:00.76\00:40:02.36
you know, has happened with
me in the last couple of years,
00:40:02.40\00:40:04.73
is like, you know,
music is a big thing,
00:40:04.77\00:40:07.20
I love listening to music.
00:40:07.24\00:40:08.57
And we used to have
00:40:08.60\00:40:10.07
this really big
collection of music,
00:40:10.11\00:40:12.34
and that was one of the
things that the Lord convicted,
00:40:12.37\00:40:14.31
both Don and I have is
getting rid of all that.
00:40:14.34\00:40:16.85
Well, now when I hear to
some of those songs or even,
00:40:16.88\00:40:21.28
you know, newer music,
00:40:21.32\00:40:23.28
there is something that
God has done with me like he,
00:40:23.32\00:40:25.82
like, right here, you
know, the frontal lobe,
00:40:25.85\00:40:27.69
my head actually
hurts, I feel pressure
00:40:27.72\00:40:29.96
when I hear
something that's bad.
00:40:29.99\00:40:31.93
And it actually has,
like, I can feel physical,
00:40:31.96\00:40:35.50
you know, result from listening
that stuff and it's like,
00:40:35.53\00:40:38.63
it's amazing.
00:40:38.67\00:40:40.00
So it's just
something that He's done for me
00:40:40.04\00:40:42.37
to know like an
uncomfortable feeling
00:40:42.40\00:40:44.04
that this is not
right, you know...
00:40:44.07\00:40:45.94
How did Paul say
that, you remember?
00:40:45.97\00:40:47.68
He said the things are...
00:40:47.71\00:40:49.04
Once loved.
00:40:49.08\00:40:50.41
I once loved I now...
00:40:50.45\00:40:51.78
Hate.
00:40:51.81\00:40:53.15
That was after His conversion,
after he met Jesus Christ.
00:40:53.18\00:40:56.18
And I thought
there's things that are,
00:40:56.22\00:40:57.92
you know, they're
not bad within himself,
00:40:57.95\00:40:59.42
I never want to...
00:40:59.45\00:41:00.79
But the Holy Spirit
kind of all of sudden, like,
00:41:00.82\00:41:02.76
wake up one day, "I
don't want to do that anymore."
00:41:02.79\00:41:05.79
I don't want to
go there anymore.
00:41:05.83\00:41:07.16
It's amazing.
00:41:07.20\00:41:08.53
You know, it's like
something just happened,
00:41:08.56\00:41:10.17
and I think
that's Christ in there.
00:41:10.20\00:41:11.53
Oh, yeah. Absolutely.
00:41:11.57\00:41:12.90
I need that little pound up here
00:41:12.93\00:41:14.27
once I knew all he is. Oh, yeah.
00:41:14.30\00:41:15.64
May be because of the way
00:41:15.67\00:41:17.01
that we were raised
as a Christian family
00:41:17.04\00:41:19.84
and all of our
music was Christian music.
00:41:19.87\00:41:22.58
And...
00:41:22.61\00:41:23.95
We didn't have
any other, did we?
00:41:23.98\00:41:25.31
We didn't have any
other, and maybe that's why...
00:41:25.35\00:41:27.25
And I'm thankful for it,
00:41:27.28\00:41:28.62
but I mean if I go
in stores, restaurants
00:41:28.65\00:41:30.85
and they are playing...
00:41:30.89\00:41:32.22
I mean, it's all
I can think about,
00:41:32.25\00:41:33.92
it's just like my head hurts,
00:41:33.96\00:41:35.49
I just, it makes
me a nervous wreck.
00:41:35.52\00:41:38.19
Yeah.
00:41:38.23\00:41:40.06
And that's not trying
to condemn by what they do,
00:41:40.10\00:41:42.60
that's not what
we're doing here.
00:41:42.63\00:41:43.97
We realize that,
because their background
00:41:44.00\00:41:45.90
and what they
were raised around,
00:41:45.93\00:41:47.27
so on and so forth,
but believe it or not,
00:41:47.30\00:41:49.14
a change can take place.
00:41:49.17\00:41:50.51
We're talking
about transforming.
00:41:50.54\00:41:51.87
That transforms. Yes.
00:41:51.91\00:41:53.58
And again, the more
the Christ comes in,
00:41:53.61\00:41:55.41
the more the world goes out.
00:41:55.44\00:41:57.01
There is no doubt in my mind.
00:41:57.05\00:41:58.61
And then obedience
you're talking about.
00:41:58.65\00:42:00.45
Obedience naturally
follows if you love Me.
00:42:00.48\00:42:04.69
He said that very simple
00:42:04.72\00:42:06.05
Well, and I was making the point
00:42:06.09\00:42:07.42
that sometimes
it's not so natural,
00:42:07.46\00:42:09.12
but because of
the love we do it.
00:42:09.16\00:42:11.19
You know, I've come to the point
00:42:11.23\00:42:12.63
that a lot of times
00:42:12.66\00:42:14.00
I've to
sacrifice my own thoughts,
00:42:14.03\00:42:15.86
my own feelings, my
own beliefs on something
00:42:15.90\00:42:19.07
when I read it in Scripture
because that's what God says.
00:42:19.10\00:42:23.24
That's right.
00:42:23.27\00:42:24.61
And I have to go on principle,
and so I have to change.
00:42:24.64\00:42:27.44
You know, and then
He will help the heart.
00:42:27.48\00:42:30.25
Just like you were
talking about music,
00:42:30.28\00:42:31.71
I don't want to
take away from you
00:42:31.75\00:42:33.08
because I know
you've got something
00:42:33.11\00:42:34.45
you wanted to share with us.
00:42:34.48\00:42:35.82
But she was mentioning music
00:42:35.85\00:42:37.19
and I can
remember the same thing
00:42:37.22\00:42:38.85
when I first started
college, 'cause we didn't...
00:42:38.89\00:42:41.99
I lived with my
grandparents at the time,
00:42:42.02\00:42:44.33
it was a
Christian home but, I mean,
00:42:44.36\00:42:46.80
it was kind of we had the world
00:42:46.83\00:42:48.46
and Christianity
at the same time.
00:42:48.50\00:42:51.13
And I always
listened to worldly music.
00:42:51.17\00:42:53.20
I had, you
know, I wish I can say
00:42:53.23\00:42:55.74
that if I hear
some of those old songs
00:42:55.77\00:42:58.04
I got a headache,
00:42:58.07\00:42:59.41
but if I hear
some of those old songs
00:42:59.44\00:43:00.78
they are the ones that
make my foot wanna tap.
00:43:00.81\00:43:02.54
Oh, pray, kids.
00:43:02.58\00:43:04.68
So I've to watch myself there.
00:43:04.71\00:43:07.25
But I had to make
a conscious decision
00:43:07.28\00:43:09.85
'cause lot of it
was considered rock,
00:43:09.88\00:43:11.72
it was acid rock,
never liked that sound.
00:43:11.75\00:43:15.59
But it was kind of
the contemporary rock,
00:43:15.62\00:43:17.39
I guess is what
you would call it.
00:43:17.43\00:43:19.33
And when the Lord
began to convict me on it
00:43:19.36\00:43:22.33
and show me some of the things
00:43:22.36\00:43:24.33
that was
happening behind the scenes,
00:43:24.37\00:43:27.27
then all of a sudden
I thought, "Oh, wow!"
00:43:27.30\00:43:29.77
But then I went from
Christian to like gospel rock.
00:43:29.80\00:43:34.84
It was kind of a
step down, I was like,
00:43:34.88\00:43:39.31
you know, either
you've been making
00:43:39.35\00:43:40.68
Tim Parton up and stepping down.
00:43:40.72\00:43:42.05
Right, right.
00:43:42.08\00:43:43.42
But then I kind
of went from that
00:43:43.45\00:43:45.35
and then he kept
working on my heart,
00:43:45.39\00:43:47.46
working on my heart,
as softer, softer, softer,
00:43:47.49\00:43:49.76
till then I was able to...
00:43:49.79\00:43:51.66
My eyes were more open.
00:43:51.69\00:43:53.56
Praise God, he
doesn't work on us
00:43:53.60\00:43:56.20
like we work on each other,
00:43:56.23\00:43:57.57
because, you
know, that be, yeah.
00:43:57.60\00:44:02.07
It's a progressive revelation
with me and it was a step,
00:44:02.10\00:44:04.81
and, you know, lot
of people would say,
00:44:04.84\00:44:07.08
they would come to you
and say, "Oh, that's wrong,
00:44:07.11\00:44:09.04
don't listen to
that, da-da, da-da...
00:44:09.08\00:44:10.51
I didn't know
that at the beginning
00:44:10.55\00:44:11.88
and it was a
step, it was a step.
00:44:11.91\00:44:14.08
It can be dangerous too,
00:44:14.12\00:44:17.09
to understand something as truth
00:44:17.12\00:44:19.05
and then as we
talked about not follow it.
00:44:19.09\00:44:21.82
I'm not talking about just will,
00:44:21.86\00:44:23.19
I'm talking about so dangerous
00:44:23.22\00:44:25.03
that the Holy Spirit
is eventually withdrawn.
00:44:25.06\00:44:27.80
It's true.
00:44:27.83\00:44:29.16
And that we no
longer hear anymore
00:44:29.20\00:44:30.53
Spirit's always working on us.
00:44:30.57\00:44:31.90
I read something
in Great Controversy,
00:44:31.93\00:44:33.27
page 559, said this,
00:44:33.30\00:44:35.07
it said, "Multitude
close their eyes to light
00:44:35.10\00:44:38.21
and walk straight on
regardless of warnings,
00:44:38.24\00:44:42.21
while Satan weaves
his snares about them
00:44:42.24\00:44:45.25
and they become His prey."
00:44:45.28\00:44:47.55
Now put a question mark, "Why?"
00:44:47.58\00:44:49.45
Is simply because
they receive not love,
00:44:49.48\00:44:52.52
and we come back to it.
00:44:52.55\00:44:53.89
Love of the
truth. Love of the truth.
00:44:53.92\00:44:55.39
So there's some repercussions.
00:44:55.42\00:44:59.19
We can't afford and
many probably do that,
00:44:59.23\00:45:03.10
and I think time's
passed in my own life,
00:45:03.13\00:45:05.50
you know, looking at it's like,
00:45:05.53\00:45:06.94
"Well, it's not
that bad," you know.
00:45:06.97\00:45:11.01
If it's not right
and it's not the truth,
00:45:11.04\00:45:14.91
then there is
something wrong with it.
00:45:14.94\00:45:17.05
You know, so we need to
make that change as God gives us
00:45:17.08\00:45:20.42
the power of the Holy Spirit
and the grace of God to do.
00:45:20.45\00:45:23.22
I won't call the
want to. Absolutely.
00:45:23.25\00:45:25.15
You see, I pray all
time, "Lord, give me wisdom."
00:45:25.19\00:45:27.59
I don't want
wisdom of the world,
00:45:27.62\00:45:29.42
I don't care about wisdom
what's going on in the world.
00:45:29.46\00:45:32.06
I like to know, you
know, things are happening,
00:45:32.09\00:45:33.56
but not wisdom of the world,
00:45:33.60\00:45:34.93
but give me wisdom
of spiritual things.
00:45:34.96\00:45:37.80
Because I'm not naturally smart,
00:45:37.83\00:45:39.17
I don't worry about
the thing called knowledge,
00:45:39.20\00:45:41.47
but I know the
Holy Spirit can give me
00:45:41.50\00:45:44.11
what I need in my time.
00:45:44.14\00:45:45.57
He will give you what
you need in your time,
00:45:45.61\00:45:47.44
each one of us.
00:45:47.48\00:45:48.81
Kenny, think the
definition of loving the truth
00:45:48.84\00:45:51.58
is that you can live it,
you can live it without burden.
00:45:51.61\00:45:56.38
Right. Good.
00:45:56.42\00:45:57.75
If you think about it. Yes.
00:45:57.79\00:45:59.12
It shouldn't be
burden to live with.
00:45:59.15\00:46:00.49
If you really love the truth,
00:46:00.52\00:46:02.39
it shouldn't be a
burden to live with.
00:46:02.42\00:46:03.96
Thank you, thank you,
that's an important...
00:46:03.99\00:46:05.89
Paul said that, didn't he?
00:46:05.93\00:46:07.26
Talk about, he
said if perfect freedom
00:46:07.30\00:46:09.73
and one more time,
he had freedom, why?
00:46:09.76\00:46:11.67
Because he chose
not to do those things
00:46:11.70\00:46:13.67
that weren't
pleasing in sight of God.
00:46:13.70\00:46:15.30
I feel like I've
perfect freedom to do exactly
00:46:15.34\00:46:17.51
what I want to do in this life.
00:46:17.54\00:46:19.51
Sounds strange
unless you balance it up.
00:46:19.54\00:46:20.88
Right.
00:46:20.91\00:46:22.24
I can do what I
really want to do,
00:46:22.28\00:46:24.81
by the grace of
God I just choose
00:46:24.85\00:46:26.35
not to do those other things
by His grace and strength.
00:46:26.38\00:46:28.75
Your "Want to" is gone.
Your "Want to" is changed.
00:46:28.78\00:46:30.72
I mean there is nothing,
I look out of the window
00:46:30.75\00:46:32.09
and say,
00:46:32.12\00:46:33.46
"Oh, I wished I could,"
or "I wished we could..."
00:46:33.49\00:46:35.82
Yeah.
00:46:35.86\00:46:37.19
Don't mean... It
didn't mean I'm right.
00:46:37.23\00:46:39.49
It's just...
00:46:39.53\00:46:41.06
And you two
don't have that may be.
00:46:41.10\00:46:42.63
But you talk about
even like music styles,
00:46:42.66\00:46:44.47
you were raised in with that.
00:46:44.50\00:46:47.20
And so for people who
aren't raised in that,
00:46:47.24\00:46:50.47
who aren't raised in
any certain ways, way.
00:46:50.51\00:46:54.18
There is a transition
period, where you do have to,
00:46:54.21\00:46:57.71
you know, learning the
truths and there's the love,
00:46:57.75\00:47:01.75
there is the sacrificial love,
but there is the selfish love.
00:47:01.78\00:47:05.05
And like I've
talking about the things
00:47:05.09\00:47:06.79
that we want to do,
me eating ice cream,
00:47:06.82\00:47:09.12
you know, that's a selfish thing
00:47:09.16\00:47:10.63
that I know it's
not necessarily...
00:47:10.66\00:47:15.66
A tub of it is not good for me.
00:47:15.70\00:47:18.67
But let me tell you,
that I know there are coconut
00:47:18.70\00:47:22.14
and recently I had ice cream
made with sunflower seed milk.
00:47:22.17\00:47:27.91
And it almost made me
00:47:27.94\00:47:29.54
want to stop eating
ice cream all together.
00:47:29.58\00:47:32.15
It was just...
00:47:32.18\00:47:33.52
I was so mad, I had paid
like $6 for a thimble full.
00:47:33.55\00:47:39.79
And so...
00:47:39.82\00:47:41.16
You know, it's
one of those things
00:47:41.19\00:47:43.66
that might be even
a progressive thing.
00:47:43.69\00:47:45.73
And again, that goes back to us,
00:47:45.76\00:47:47.70
loving each other
as we lead each other
00:47:47.73\00:47:50.57
in knowledge of the truth
as the Holy Spirit convicts us.
00:47:50.60\00:47:52.43
That's the sanctification.
00:47:52.47\00:47:54.10
You're talking
about sanctification.
00:47:54.14\00:47:55.70
We must be
trying to get to that.
00:47:55.74\00:47:57.07
It's a work of the lifetime
and it's a step at a time.
00:47:57.11\00:48:00.21
It's progressive to some.
00:48:00.24\00:48:01.68
Some will get it just
like that, praise God.
00:48:01.71\00:48:04.18
But others, it's
progress even, praise God.
00:48:04.21\00:48:06.41
The Holy Spirit is
there to encourage,
00:48:06.45\00:48:07.95
and knows the mind
and knows the heart.
00:48:07.98\00:48:09.32
Even though we are not
quite to that question yet,
00:48:09.35\00:48:13.86
it's still a part
of the love of God.
00:48:13.89\00:48:16.02
When you talked about,
00:48:16.06\00:48:17.43
you know,
walking in the footsteps
00:48:17.46\00:48:18.96
when God shows us something
we are to obey and walk in it.
00:48:18.99\00:48:22.30
It reminded me of a lady
00:48:22.33\00:48:23.67
that came to our
church several years ago,
00:48:23.70\00:48:25.60
she was very much in the world
00:48:25.63\00:48:28.20
and, oh, the Holy Spirit
was working on her so strong.
00:48:28.24\00:48:32.87
I can remember
during a prayer meeting time
00:48:32.91\00:48:35.84
where the Spirit of God was so,
because when a soul is coming,
00:48:35.88\00:48:40.78
hungering, and thirsting,
He pours out His Spirit.
00:48:40.82\00:48:44.55
And there were tears
and we were on our knees
00:48:44.59\00:48:47.46
and crying and
praying for this woman.
00:48:47.49\00:48:50.53
Eventually, I mean,
00:48:50.56\00:48:51.89
she seemed like she was on fire,
00:48:51.93\00:48:53.70
seemed like she was gonna make
the right decision for Jesus,
00:48:53.73\00:48:57.00
but she turned away.
00:48:57.03\00:48:58.77
And it wasn't...
00:48:58.80\00:49:00.14
But may be two, three months
at the most that woman died.
00:49:00.17\00:49:05.97
We never know
00:49:06.01\00:49:07.34
when the Holy Spirit is speaking
00:49:07.38\00:49:08.84
and convicting and
converting our hearts,
00:49:08.88\00:49:11.41
when it might be
the last opportunity
00:49:11.45\00:49:14.22
that we have to obey God.
00:49:14.25\00:49:16.75
And this is withdrawing things
00:49:16.79\00:49:18.12
that we are talking
about here in this lesson,
00:49:18.15\00:49:19.99
The Great
Controversy says again,
00:49:20.02\00:49:21.52
"As they reject teaching
of His Word, that's all of us,
00:49:21.56\00:49:25.23
as we reject the
teachings of His Word
00:49:25.26\00:49:27.13
God withdraws His
Spirit and leaves him
00:49:27.16\00:49:30.53
to deceptions which they love.
00:49:30.57\00:49:33.27
So He gives you what?
00:49:33.30\00:49:35.00
He gives you what you want.
00:49:35.04\00:49:36.37
You want heaven,
00:49:36.40\00:49:37.74
heaven is there
for you if you want it.
00:49:37.77\00:49:39.87
You'll love it enough,
you want it, it's there.
00:49:39.91\00:49:42.44
If you want the deceptions,
00:49:42.48\00:49:44.01
the way the
enemy is working here
00:49:44.05\00:49:45.38
in these last days to deceive,
00:49:45.41\00:49:46.92
the whole world
deceived it's going to happen.
00:49:46.95\00:49:49.15
And don't think
it didn't happen.
00:49:49.18\00:49:50.52
You remember what Jesus
said there in Matthew 23:58?
00:49:50.55\00:49:53.05
We're talking about the Jews,
gave him the truth as a nation,
00:49:53.09\00:49:56.69
they rejected, he said,
00:49:56.73\00:49:58.06
"Your house is left
until you desolate."
00:49:58.09\00:50:02.70
Think about,
Holy Spirit withdrawn
00:50:02.73\00:50:04.07
at the time of the flood
in Genesis, you remember?
00:50:04.10\00:50:07.20
Spirit of God will not
always strive with man.
00:50:07.24\00:50:08.90
So we're just trying to say,
is not to try to scare anybody,
00:50:08.94\00:50:11.17
but simply, we don't know
00:50:11.21\00:50:12.57
when that last
invitation is again...
00:50:12.61\00:50:13.94
No, we don't. I'm
glad you brought that up.
00:50:13.98\00:50:15.41
And I have
grieved the last few weeks
00:50:15.44\00:50:17.91
because we...
00:50:17.95\00:50:19.28
I have so many friends
that I met through puppies
00:50:19.31\00:50:22.05
and been working
with her somewhat and I...
00:50:22.08\00:50:26.96
They're good
people, I'm not saying that,
00:50:26.99\00:50:28.82
but they are not Christians.
00:50:28.86\00:50:30.89
And I have talked to her
some and she's been receptive,
00:50:30.93\00:50:36.13
him maybe not so much.
00:50:36.16\00:50:38.10
And just a few weeks ago,
he had texted me on Friday
00:50:38.13\00:50:41.77
about something with the dog,
and we talked back and forth
00:50:41.80\00:50:45.54
and Saturday night he collapsed
and Sunday he was dead.
00:50:45.57\00:50:50.75
And he had an aneurysm
that he didn't know he had.
00:50:50.78\00:50:53.58
Yeah.
00:50:53.62\00:50:54.95
And I just have
grieved because I just...
00:50:54.98\00:50:58.42
But, you know, I tell
myself who am I though
00:50:58.45\00:51:00.79
in those few
minutes of consciousness
00:51:00.82\00:51:03.22
when he first collapsed,
00:51:03.26\00:51:04.73
then he went into a coma,
but, you know, maybe God knows.
00:51:04.76\00:51:08.93
God knows. Yeah.
00:51:08.96\00:51:10.30
There was the reason...
00:51:10.33\00:51:11.67
But we never know,
when you have aneurysm
00:51:11.70\00:51:13.80
you usually have no signs,
you know, you're just gone.
00:51:13.84\00:51:17.64
And, so like he
said, you never know.
00:51:17.67\00:51:21.34
It's your last minute,
your last day on this earth.
00:51:21.38\00:51:24.85
Probably something that you said
00:51:24.88\00:51:26.21
that he was, you know,
00:51:26.25\00:51:28.98
thinking about that may be
he didn't vocalize or whatever,
00:51:29.02\00:51:31.65
but you never know
where that could go, you know.
00:51:31.69\00:51:35.09
Acts 3:19 describes
what's on our heart.
00:51:35.12\00:51:39.39
Why we want to even draw
close to God and love the truth.
00:51:39.43\00:51:44.73
And it brings us to
repentance, it says,
00:51:44.77\00:51:46.53
"Repent ye
therefore and be converted."
00:51:46.57\00:51:49.24
See God has just...
00:51:49.27\00:51:50.61
He is doing
everything He can Christ is.
00:51:50.64\00:51:53.98
To say, Sister
Chris, please be converted.
00:51:54.01\00:51:57.95
Why?
00:51:57.98\00:51:59.31
That your sins
may be blotted out.
00:51:59.35\00:52:02.25
You see, it's the sins
00:52:02.28\00:52:03.69
that separate us from salvation,
00:52:03.72\00:52:05.99
from Christ, from
our Savior, our Lord.
00:52:06.02\00:52:08.96
"When the times of
refreshing shall come
00:52:08.99\00:52:11.19
from the presence of the Lord."
00:52:11.23\00:52:14.40
So He is literally...
00:52:14.43\00:52:17.00
If you want to
use the word begging,
00:52:17.03\00:52:18.63
He is doing
everything He possibly can.
00:52:18.67\00:52:20.47
Yes, He is.
00:52:20.50\00:52:21.84
He is trying to
restore us into His image.
00:52:21.87\00:52:26.01
He is preparing us.
00:52:26.04\00:52:27.68
Tim, so you can bring the...
00:52:27.71\00:52:29.84
Can you imagine if
there is pianos in heaven.
00:52:29.88\00:52:33.35
Oh, wow! Oh, boy!
00:52:33.38\00:52:35.78
Oh, wow!
00:52:35.82\00:52:37.15
That will be wonderful to be up.
00:52:37.19\00:52:39.45
He is preparing our hearts
00:52:39.49\00:52:41.82
to live as
citizens of the kingdom.
00:52:41.86\00:52:44.96
Amen.
00:52:44.99\00:52:46.33
And that's why
to get rid of sin,
00:52:46.36\00:52:48.20
that's what all
this transformation's
00:52:48.23\00:52:49.96
all about.
00:52:50.00\00:52:51.33
Will there ever be a time
that could be better for us
00:52:51.37\00:52:53.80
not to have
learned what truth is?
00:52:53.84\00:52:57.61
That's kind of
a loaded question.
00:52:57.64\00:52:59.01
Will there ever come a time...
00:52:59.04\00:53:00.88
If I was a thief on the cross
as long as I accepted Christ,
00:53:00.91\00:53:04.15
maybe, don't know,
but outside of that, no.
00:53:04.18\00:53:08.42
You know, if there come a time
it'd been better that we had
00:53:08.45\00:53:11.12
and if we just
profess to keep it
00:53:11.15\00:53:13.15
and we are
really not keeping it,
00:53:13.19\00:53:15.09
because "To him
that knoweth to do good,
00:53:15.12\00:53:16.76
and doeth it not
to him, it is sin."
00:53:16.79\00:53:20.03
Yeah, it would be better.
00:53:20.06\00:53:21.40
Well, that goes back to
00:53:21.43\00:53:22.76
what we were
talking about, obedience.
00:53:22.80\00:53:24.13
Yeah. Absolutely. Obedience.
00:53:24.17\00:53:25.50
I've heard people say
when you try to study with
00:53:25.53\00:53:29.10
and I've heard people say,
"I don't want to know that.
00:53:29.14\00:53:31.47
I don't want to hear that
00:53:31.51\00:53:33.14
because I don't want
to change, so I don't..."
00:53:33.17\00:53:35.68
Yes!
00:53:35.71\00:53:37.05
My paternal
grandmother was that way,
00:53:37.08\00:53:39.25
she was illiterate,
she lived in the south,
00:53:39.28\00:53:42.28
grew up really
in a sad situation
00:53:42.32\00:53:45.65
and was unable to go to school.
00:53:45.69\00:53:48.42
She worked out in a field,
00:53:48.46\00:53:49.79
she picked cotton and
tobacco and all the stuff.
00:53:49.82\00:53:52.49
And back when I was in college
00:53:52.53\00:53:54.76
I went to Southern
Missionary College for a while
00:53:54.80\00:53:56.67
which is now
Southern University,
00:53:56.70\00:53:58.73
and they just had started
00:53:58.77\00:54:00.24
to putting the
Bible on cassette.
00:54:00.27\00:54:02.30
And when I would go
down to visit her, of course,
00:54:02.34\00:54:06.24
she ate totally
different than I did.
00:54:06.27\00:54:10.45
And there was a lot of things
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that she would ask me,
questions like, "Grandma,"
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you know, and I
would start to share
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with her some of the things.
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But then, when I
offered to get her
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the Bible on cassette,
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I was thinking
she will love that,
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she will welcome it,
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she'll want that,
because she loves Jesus.
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And she said, no.
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She did not
want to know anything
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more than what she knew.
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It's a frightening thought.
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Yeah.
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I have some
thought. Only God knows.
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He remembers that, you
know, we wanted to just share
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this sanctuary message with them
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and, I think maybe
it was just too soon,
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you know, we're
praying for the opportunity
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but they were comfortable
with what they understood
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about the Bible and they
just weren't ready for it but,
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you know, they didn't,
they said they didn't think
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they needed to know that.
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And it's sad, you know,
when people don't want more,
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but, you know,
only God can do that,
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you know,
transformation to make them,
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you know, want to know more
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and you know, if we're there
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and we're
willing to be that vessel
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that helps them
understand then it's a privilege
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but it's sad
when they reject it.
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Yes.
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There's timing,
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you know, I found
out it's what the timing
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is very, very important
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because you might think
this study is important,
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the other person
is not ready for it.
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I'll give a quick illustration.
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When I was in my 20s,
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I want to give a Bible
study to a school teacher
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that I'd actually
went to school with,
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so anyway, and he
was very interested,
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he asked
question on Daniel 8:14,
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"2300 days and so the
sanctuary will be cleansed."
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Well, didn't
know everything about
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but I knew enough,
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I could go to
his house and do it.
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And so I went to his house
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and we sat down
around the Bible.
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He said, "Well,
where's that found?
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I know there's
somewhere in the sanctuary
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in the 2300 days,
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but I don't know
anything about it.
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I said that's Daniel
8:14 and turn right to it,
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and it wasn't there.
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Now it sounds strange.
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It wasn't there.
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His name was Steve.
You know his last name.
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I looked again
and my eyes got big.
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I said, "Lord, what is wrong?"
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I know it's Daniel 8:14.
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And then it got me doubting.
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I went to Daniel 9:14,
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you know what I
mean, then I went to 7:14,
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and I went back to 8:14, I read.
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I looked in there and looked...
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It just wasn't there.
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And I said, "Oh,
it's not time, evidently."
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It's not, because
I know it's there,
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but I can't see it right now.
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So I said, "You know, why don't
we discuss something else,"
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and we went home and anyhow,
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never had the
opportunity to go back again.
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So that, you know, that...
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I'm just saying God
has a time, timeframe
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and we need to be ready for
it when that person is ready,
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something happens,
be there with the Word.
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Now the good news
is some will plant.
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Yes. Right. Some will water.
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Thank you. It's very good.
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You know, and yes.
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God will give
the increase in all.
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You know one thing I do love
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and that should be
part of this message too is,
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in every stage of
that plant is perfection
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as long as we
have the love of God,
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it's perfection.
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You know, the first the
blade, and then the stalk
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and then the full layer of corn.
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It's all perfect.
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It's hard for me
because I don't naturally
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have a green
thumb like majority.
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We're talking spiritually here.
We're talking spiritually here.
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As you close the
first line of that song,
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I am buying, oh,
Lord, I've heard thy voice.
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Amen.
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And I want you to pray to
be a vessel of honor to God.
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We've talked
about so many things,
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truth transforms.
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May our Lord continue
to bless you and yours.
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Amen.
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