I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello and welcome to
3ABN's Family Worship
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and happy Sabbath to
each and every one of you.
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I'm Chris Shelton, and I'm here
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with my wonderful
husband, Pastor Kenny Shelton.
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We don't know what I do
without you, that's for sure.
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That's sweet, thank you.
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Be lost in more ways
than one. Thank you, sweetie.
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And we are surrounded by
so many of your 3ABN family
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that I like to
introduce to you tonight.
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To my right is
Brother Tim Parton,
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I know Tim, no
one knows you, right?
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No, I'm working on...
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I'm working on my
worldwide acclaim.
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No one's ever heard
of you or the talent
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that you can
actually play the piano.
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It truly doesn't matter
whether they know me or not,
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I'm just glad to be here,
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and glad to be
part of this family.
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That's good.
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We've probably taught, you know,
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indirectly half of America
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how to play the piano, you know.
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Well...
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That's good, that's a blessing.
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Well, just let's move on. Okay.
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But I'm enjoying this, because
when I get to the kingdom,
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I'm gonna have a
playoff with you,
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Are you kidding?
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I'm gonna sit
back and listen to you
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with all my worldwide students.
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Oh, that would be
wonderful, wonderful.
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And next to you
is Sister Janelle.
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Owen Janelle, you
do a lot of things
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that people don't
realize that you do,
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they see it all the time
because you work in graphics.
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Tell us a little
bit about what you do?
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I'm in the publishing department
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and we just...
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Our team is just amazing,
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we work on the
worldwide magazine,
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the 3ABN World Magazine.
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And lots of other things
that include printing web,
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all of the websites,
all the social media,
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we are behind the scenes
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but we enjoy it
and I love my team so.
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Well, you work behind the scenes
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but actually a lot
of the work that you do
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comes out before many of
us to prepare the people,
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to let them know about events,
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and programs, and camp meetings,
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and all these
stuff, it's wonderful.
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And beautiful
work that you guys do.
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Amen. Praise the Lord!
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I know she's
helped me a time or two,
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not near enough but...
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I don't know if there's ever
going to be enough help for me.
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She has it all. We all need it.
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There's a lot that
goes into that magazine
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that you wouldn't believe,
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the details that are
involved on the magazine,
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but God is good, He
gets us through each one.
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He got the right people on it.
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Praise the Lord.
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Amen, amen, and to my left,
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if you didn't hear
her punching me over here
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and telling her that she
had a word cut out for her,
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in so many words,
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is my
sister-in-law Tammy Chance.
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Tammy, we love having
you and Bruce with us all.
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It's been too long
since you have been here.
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I'm glad you're back. Thank you.
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We're glad to be here.
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Yeah, and Tammy is a kind of...
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Tell us about what
you're doing, Tammy?
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Oh, that will
take several hours...
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Press it down, we
don't want to go there.
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No, I'm raising lab puppies.
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We have got lot of
parent dogs and lot of litters,
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and it's just kind
of a ministry for me.
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Amen.
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When people, I talk
to people for months
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in advance of getting the puppy
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and I try to share about
God and God's love and then,
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whenever they pick up
their little puppy packets,
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I always put Steps
to Christ in there.
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Amen.
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And so it's amazing
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how you can
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may be work with
people in that manner
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that you
couldn't in another way,
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that doesn't go to
church or, you know,
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doesn't care about
that kind of thing.
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But as you talk to
them, you can find out a lot.
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Awesome.
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You know, we get
people saying, you know what?
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I believe that God's in
charge and that kind of things.
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I too, yes. Amen.
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And He's blessed
it so tremendously...
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He has.
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And I know, I've got one
of your punk creep puppies,
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and I love him to death.
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So and, Bruce, how about you?
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Well, I run the
donation department
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here as most people know,
and I work with Janelle somewhat
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and she takes great
attention to detail,
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so we appreciate her.
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Well, you do too.
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You have taken a lot
of attention to detail.
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You've done a lot
study of over the years.
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You know things
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that sometimes
even dealers in the area
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aren't sure about,
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you know, when it
comes to price and things,
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which is such a beautiful,
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you know, the
knowledge for you to have
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because so many people,
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they have got
something in their hand
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and they want to donate
it and use it for the Lord,
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it goes to you.
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So it's up to you to get
the best price possible, right?
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Had to be good stewards of
the Lord's work we have now.
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Now, you're going. Yeah.
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You know, I've always
said the Lord's message is free
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but it takes
finances to get it out.
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Yes, it is. It does. Amen.
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Pastor Kenny, would
you lead us off in prayer,
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we are going to talk tonight
about "Truth that Transforms."
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Well.
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The truth that transforms,
so let's have prayer,
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shall we? All right, let's pray.
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We're going to invite you
at home, pray along with us.
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Oh, how
wonderful that is, isn't?
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You know, just talk
about little bit some people
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whom they write in or
they call in, they say,
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you know, when you
folks may be kneel in prayer
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or you are sitting
around the table and you pray,
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we pray right along.
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Where we can,
we get on our knees
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and we pray too.
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That's so
comforting and so encouraging
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that God's people
are willing to do that
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because you know, it's
good that we come together,
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pray together, counsel together,
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so we're gonna
invite you right now.
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Let's pray, shall we?
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Amen.
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Our kind, loving,
gracious heavenly Father,
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it is a privilege,
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privilege
tonight to come to Thee
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and be able to
call You our Father.
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Thank You that we are
part of the family of God,
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not because of anything
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we've done because
we're so good at anything,
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but because of Jesus...
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Amen.
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Thank you for
that precious blood
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that flowed so
freely on Calvary's Cross,
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that we might have eternal life.
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And, Lord, we just,
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we sense that we
need Your presence
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in a very special ways
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we look at the subject
here, the truth that transforms.
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And, Lord, we pray that
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we take this
beautiful truth of Your words
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inside of our heart,
and our mind, and our life.
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We truly be transformed,
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we need the Holy Spirit
to make that transformation.
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But we had to be willing
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and so I pray tonight
for each and every one,
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and we pray that in
the homes right now,
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there are those who may
be in the valley of decision
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that want to make that
decision or not sure what to do.
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We pray You'll lead and guide,
direct every one of us here
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that You will put
Your thoughts in our mind,
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and we may relate those away
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that heaven would
rejoice and be exceedingly glad.
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As decisions are made, Lord,
we're gonna give You praise,
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give You honor,
and give You glory,
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and thank You for
what You're gonna to do.
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Thank You for each one that
participates in the filming,
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even though they
sit behind the scenes,
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everything that
takes place, Lord,
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for maybe for Your
honor and for Your glory,
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and at last we
just praise Your name,
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and thank You in Jesus' name.
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Amen.
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Truth that transforms... Yes.
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You know, it's
going to help and able us
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to be in the kingdom someday.
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So we're gonna actually sing
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and we pray that you
will sing along with us.
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This world is not my home,
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one of our
favorite songs, I think.
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We'll do at the end.
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We might do it again
at the end, we'll see.
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You know, okay, I tell
you this is really good.
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I love it.
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This world is not my home
I'm just a passing through
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My treasures are laid up
Somewhere beyond the blue
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The angels beckon me
From Heaven's open door
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And I can't feel at home
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In this world anymore
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Oh Lord, you know I
have no friend like you
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If Heaven's not my home
Then Lord what will I do
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The angels beckon me
From Heaven's open door
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And I can't feel at home
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In this world anymore
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They're all expecting me
And that's one thing I know
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My Savior pardoned me
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And now I onward go I
know He'll take me through
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Though I am weak and poor
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And I can't feel at home
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In this world anymore
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Oh Lord, you know I
have no friend like you
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If Heaven's not my home
Then Lord what will I do
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The angels beckon me
From Heaven's open door
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And I can't feel at home
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In this world anymore
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Just over in Glory
Land We'll live eternally
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The Saints on every
hand Are shouting victory
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Their song of sweetest praise
Drifts back from Heaven's shore
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And I can't feel at home
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In this world anymore
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Oh Lord, you know I
have no friend like you
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If Heaven's not my home
Then Lord what will I do
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The angels beckon me
From Heaven's open door
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And I can't feel at home
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In this world anymore
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No, I can't feel at home
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In this world anymore
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Amen! Halleluiah!
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We can't feel like
at home in this world.
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Yeah, that is beautiful
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and those angels
beckoning us to come on in.
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They're all singing
along with us, amen.
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Wow, that is awesome. Yes.
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I love that
because it reminds us,
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when all these things
are happening around us
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and we feel down and
discouraged, you know,
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this song reminds us that
this world is not our home.
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We are just pilgrims
that are passing through,
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isn't that beautiful?
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Amen. Yeah.
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And as we are passing through,
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we are going to learn
about truth that transforms,
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and we are going to
basically dissect Psalm 15:1-2.
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Psalm 15:1-2 and I
was hoping, Janelle,
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that maybe you
would read that for us.
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Sure, yeah.
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"Lord, who shall
abide in thy tabernacle?
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Who shall dwell
in thy holy hill?
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He that walketh uprightly,
and worketh righteousness,
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and speaketh the
truth in his heart."
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Amen.
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You know, it's beautiful
because that asks the questions
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that many of us ask.
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You know, we might not say
it in those specific words,
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we might say more like, what
do I need to do to be saved?
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Right.
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You know, then
it gives the answer,
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but we're gonna talk
little bit more about that.
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We're gonna be
reading from the book
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that is
entitled, "My Life Today."
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Some of the portions here,
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I'm gonna begin
reading in that book now.
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It reads, "We must
present the principles of truth
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that led them work upon
the hearts of the people.
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We may pick the leaves
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from a tree as
often as we please,
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but this will not
cause the tree to die.
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The next season the
leaves will come out again
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just as thick as before."
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But we know that when
we're mowing especially,
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don't we? Well, absolutely, yes.
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"But strike the ax
at the root of the tree
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and not only will the
leaves fall of themselves,
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but the tree will die." Yes.
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"Those who accept the
truth, and the love of it,
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will die to the
world, and will become meek
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and lowly in heart
like their divine Lord.
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Just as soon as
the heart is right..."
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Listen to this,
just as soon as, what?
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The heart. The heart is right.
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"The dress, the conversation,
the life will be in harmony
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with the Word of God."
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Yes.
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So in another words here,
if we just really were to focus
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on that one sentence alone
we find out, it's not our place.
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When someone comes in and ask,
"What shall I do to be saved?"
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It's not our place
to change the heart.
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Right.
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We can lead them into all truth,
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but it's the Holy
Spirit that has to come in
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and do that work.
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Yes.
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"We all need to humble ourselves
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under the mighty hand of God.
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May He help us to
plant our feet firmly
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upon the platform
of eternal truth."
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And the question
that we want to begin
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with tonight is number one,
the platform of eternal truth.
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With such spiritual
confusion in the world today,
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how may we, how may
you at home be certain
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that we are learning
what truth really is?
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That's pretty
heavy-duty question, isn't it?
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Because each person when
you talk to which I found,
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regardless to what church
or may be even background,
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they will simply
say, we have the truth.
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Then maybe, you know, that's,
maybe how they should feel.
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We should feel we have it
and maybe, you know, we do,
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we don't, but how do we
really figure out what is truth,
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you know, from
the Word of God here,
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I thought was
very, very interesting,
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and even what you talked about.
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First of all,
there's four points in there
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I thought was interesting.
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I'll mention quickly and
we'll talk about if you want to.
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But it says, "Just as
soon as the heart is right..."
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She emphasized that, but just
as soon as the heart is right,
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everything else
will find its place.
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You know, a lot of times 'cause
we bicker about what we wear,
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how we wear, and
what we don't wear,
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and what we eat,
what we don't eat.
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As soon as the
heart is right with God,
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there ceased to be issues
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because we simply
read the Word of God
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and what God says
about this certain issue
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is what we want to do.
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In other words,
the way that I dress,
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right?
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If once my heart is changed,
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I don't have to try worry about.
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I'm gonna be modest.
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I'm gonna be like
Christ wants me to be.
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When my heart is right,
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my conversation, I
don't have to try to guard
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and my
conversation will be same,
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whether you and
I are standing out
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in the parking lot or not
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or whether we are in the church,
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it's going to be the same.
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The conversation
is going to be right.
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It goes on...
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What that says to me
is you don't beat people
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over the head with
the do's and the don'ts
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that are just learning
and just coming into truth.
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There's a saying,
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"Give them time,
let their heart change,
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let things will change,
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their life will
change with that."
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We don't need to beat
people over their head with it.
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So work on the heart then...
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Yes, and go head
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I was trying to find that verse,
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"You shall know the truth,
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and the truth
shall set you free."
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And, you know,
is there a freedom,
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you know, like you were saying
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not beating people
over their head with it
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because if their heart
is really, truly seeking
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and finds that truth,
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then we will have
that peace and love
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in our heart and we won't,
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you know, do that to people
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and then we'll
have that for ourselves
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and we'll have that
security of knowing that
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what we are learning
is the truth, is because,
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you know, we'll
have that freedom
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and peace in Christ.
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Yeah, John 8, John 8:32.
John 8, that was... Okay.
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It says that in John 8:32. Okay.
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John 8:32? I think.
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The truth will
make you free, right?
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Yeah.
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That's what you
were talking about,
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what the truth transforms.
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Remember a lie
never transformed,
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let me transform
you something else.
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But if you want
to be transformed
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into the image of Jesus,
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it takes knowing what truth is.
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And so I'm
always challenge this,
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is this really
truth of God's Word
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because I know we are
talking about today is,
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if the truth is
inside the heart,
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there will be a change.
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Now, if the changes don't come,
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that means possibly
the truth is not there
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or we don't love the truth.
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We are not taking
it in because to me
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it's an impossibility
to take truth in and say,
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I love it and I
want to know what it,
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and no change comes about.
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But I want to make
a point too because,
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I don't want anybody to be
confused and probably anyone
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that's walked this
walk, they are not confuse,
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but it doesn't happen overnight.
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Right.
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I praise God for
His mercy with me.
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Mercy, I mean because a lot of
these things we struggle with,
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you know, but we
are coming into a time
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in this world's history
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that I think we're gonna
see a lot of these things.
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In fact, we're told,
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we're going to see
a lot of these things
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happen quicker than perhaps
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what they've
happened in our lives,
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you know, because it
didn't just happen with me,
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you know, just instantaneously,
it was a growth process.
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That was a daily study process.
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Sure.
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I think that's
the case with anybody,
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because that's the fact and
the question you're asking is,
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how do we... How
can we be certain
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that what we've
learned is truth.
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And personally,
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we all have to encounter
just like you're saying,
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we have to grow in the
Word if we're studying.
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But, Kenny, like you mentioned,
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you ask, you could get a mass,
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multiple, number of
answers to that question
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because everybody would
say that they have the truth.
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It's personal testimony,
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you know, what
you've been through.
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I think it's a
personal story of what,
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how you learn the truth.
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How you know that
the truth is the truth.
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How you know that
those scripture is the truth,
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because if you ask a Buddhist,
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if they believe
that what they've studied
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and what they've
learned is the truth,
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then they're going to
say, that's the truth.
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So I think it all
boils down to faith,
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having faith in the Word of God
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and faith in Jesus,
that He is the truth.
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He said, "I am
the way, the life,
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the truth and the life."
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But, you know,
maybe somebody else
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comes along and
says that same thing.
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So I think truth,
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if I'm understanding
what this question says,
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you know, how can we be certain
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that what we're learning
as Christians is the truth,
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but then how do we witness
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to someone else who says
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and maybe this is,
I'm getting too deep
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to soon on this conversation,
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but how do we... Yeah.
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How do we tell somebody else
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that Jesus is the
truth, and then believe us?
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Yeah.
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And then there has to
be that we talked about
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proof of scripture
here then, don't wait.
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So we have to
know because we'll sit
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and we'll talk all day long.
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But then we get back
into the Word of God,
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to truth what is...
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Right. That has to be.
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I think we all
have it, Isaiah 8:20,
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if we want the
truth, "To the law
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and to the testimony!
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If they speak
not according to this
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is because there
is no light in them."
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So right quick,
that will make void
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and awful lot of
people in the world
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that say, we have the truth.
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Because that's
what we have to do
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if we find out truth,
the law and the testimony.
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Testimony is the
testimony of the Bible,
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the testimony of what?
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The prophets of old,
their life, what they live,
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what they taught that
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we have to go back
to something solid.
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That is the only
moral absolute that we have.
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Yeah.
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Because what you were explaining
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is that there
are just numerous...
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Numerous truths.
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Yes, numerous truths.
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But we have to allow the
Bible to interpret itself
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and the problem
is, you've got...
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Remember, there's
10 virgins, you know,
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and then five that are
lost and five that are saved.
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The ones that are saved, their
lamps are full of oil, right?
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They've been
studying, they've been praying,
00:20:14.38\00:20:16.34
they're full of the Holy Spirit.
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Yet they all still fell
asleep, don't forget that.
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They all felt
sleep. Sleeping, all right.
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So when we go
back to Isaiah 8:20
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and we find to the
law and to the testimony,
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we have to, no
matter which church it is,
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what denomination it
is, what they're believing,
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go back to the Word of
God that He profoundly,
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just absolutely held
intact over so many years
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when the devil tried to
just destroy the scriptures.
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I mean people die
because they had him hid,
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they would sew
them in their clothes.
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So I mean what God has
done just to preserve His word,
00:20:49.11\00:20:52.25
so that we can now
study it, is phenomenal.
00:20:52.28\00:20:55.95
But to go back and say,
00:20:55.98\00:20:57.32
okay, well, this church
says this, this church...
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For example, we'll
just talk about the Sabbath.
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It's obvious, we're
welcoming in the Sabbath, right?
00:21:02.36\00:21:04.73
We're all here to
welcome in the Sabbath.
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Most people, they're
going to church on another day.
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You know, there's some
religions that go on Friday,
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some on Thursday,
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and many here in
the United States
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that go on Sunday, good people.
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But we are told in scriptures,
00:21:17.87\00:21:19.94
especially once we
get into Revelation,
00:21:19.97\00:21:21.74
it says, "Come
out of her, My people,
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and be not
partakers of her sins."
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It's talking about
that spiritual confusion.
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The only way,
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the only way
that we can find out
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what is truth is
by line upon line,
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precept upon precept
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to the law and to the testimony.
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If they're saying,
okay, well, this day,
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but the Bible says, Sabbath,
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there you go, that's a truth.
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Now does that mean it,
00:21:47.30\00:21:48.84
it's not gonna cut us
00:21:48.87\00:21:50.34
if we brought up
with something else.
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But can we really know it?
00:21:51.74\00:21:53.24
See this is what people said...
00:21:53.27\00:21:54.61
I think you can.
00:21:54.64\00:21:55.98
You can't really know it
because we think we know it,
00:21:56.01\00:21:57.35
but it's
interesting and is it John 7:17,
00:21:57.38\00:22:02.05
he says, "You
will know the truth,
00:22:02.08\00:22:04.42
you will know the doctrine."
00:22:04.45\00:22:06.49
You see, so if we
want to know what truth is,
00:22:06.52\00:22:08.79
we will know what it is because
it is possible, isn't it?
00:22:08.82\00:22:12.96
Tammy, what you think, is it
possible to know what is truth,
00:22:12.99\00:22:15.00
and, Bruce, isn't it?
00:22:15.03\00:22:16.36
Kenny, I like to keep it simple.
00:22:16.40\00:22:17.80
Well, I do too.
Thank you, Bruce.
00:22:17.83\00:22:19.63
Thank you, Bruce.
Almost simple for us.
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Just put it out
there for us, all right.
00:22:21.70\00:22:23.17
God Word gives us
facts and reasons.
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History has prevailed
that His Word is truth.
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I like that.
00:22:28.08\00:22:29.41
Because things have happened
the way he said they would.
00:22:29.44\00:22:32.41
Our faith must rest
upon good reasoning,
00:22:32.45\00:22:35.28
not absolute proof.
00:22:35.32\00:22:36.65
That is awesome.
That's exactly right.
00:22:36.69\00:22:38.65
So, so faith...
00:22:38.69\00:22:40.02
Read that last
line... Yeah, there...
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Our faith must
rest on good reasoning,
00:22:41.86\00:22:44.63
not absolute proof.
00:22:44.66\00:22:46.33
Good.
00:22:46.36\00:22:47.70
You said. Proof, proof.
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Not absolute proof.
00:22:49.73\00:22:51.07
Yeah, that's what faith is.
00:22:51.10\00:22:53.64
It's not, I mean,
00:22:53.67\00:22:55.00
that's why they
call it faith, you know.
00:22:55.04\00:22:57.84
If it's absolute truth,
00:22:57.87\00:22:59.77
I can know that this
table is going to hold up my,
00:22:59.81\00:23:02.04
this water because it's a table,
00:23:02.08\00:23:04.05
it's got four legs,
I mean, we've tried it
00:23:04.08\00:23:06.18
and but faith...
00:23:06.21\00:23:10.89
Faith is setting
your glass on it.
00:23:10.92\00:23:12.29
Right, well,
yeah, faith is setting,
00:23:12.32\00:23:14.59
you know, I mean it's not...
00:23:14.62\00:23:17.86
Well, you just have
to have some things,
00:23:17.89\00:23:19.23
you just have to
build trust and belief.
00:23:19.26\00:23:21.60
Right.
00:23:21.63\00:23:22.96
You know, it's...
00:23:23.00\00:23:24.87
That's why when
you tell somebody...
00:23:24.90\00:23:26.84
Especially, especially
in the day we're living in,
00:23:26.87\00:23:28.74
because truth is becoming error,
00:23:28.77\00:23:31.31
and error is becoming truth.
00:23:31.34\00:23:33.48
So I think, you know,
the truth we have to...
00:23:33.51\00:23:36.64
First of all we
need to study to know,
00:23:36.68\00:23:38.55
study show
ourselves approved into God.
00:23:38.58\00:23:40.75
So we need to study
what the Bible says truth is
00:23:40.78\00:23:43.55
and then by faith,
00:23:43.59\00:23:45.05
even though you're
hearing other people
00:23:45.09\00:23:46.76
saying this and this and that,
00:23:46.79\00:23:48.12
and we realize
there's going to come
00:23:48.16\00:23:49.66
even a strong delusion
upon this world someday.
00:23:49.69\00:23:52.53
The enemy's going
to impersonate Christ,
00:23:52.56\00:23:54.70
and we're told in
Spirit of Prophecy,
00:23:54.73\00:23:56.16
he's going to even tell
us that he changes Sabbath,
00:23:56.20\00:23:59.50
from Saturday to Sunday.
00:23:59.53\00:24:00.87
Now, if you were to listen,
which the Bible says don't do,
00:24:00.90\00:24:04.51
he says if he hurries
in the desert, don't go.
00:24:04.54\00:24:06.81
Don't turn on Channel 12,
00:24:06.84\00:24:08.44
don't turn on
Channel 6, don't listen,
00:24:08.48\00:24:11.01
because he's going to
imitate Christ to a tee.
00:24:11.05\00:24:14.45
And I just want to
say that, you know, like,
00:24:14.48\00:24:16.58
I think you mentioned
earlier, Tim, about, you know,
00:24:16.62\00:24:18.35
different faiths that
have different truths.
00:24:18.39\00:24:20.42
And, you know, I'm thankful
00:24:20.46\00:24:22.19
that God takes
us where we're at,
00:24:22.22\00:24:23.89
and he knows the heart
00:24:23.93\00:24:27.20
and He knows someone
that's genuinely seeking Him.
00:24:27.23\00:24:30.27
So maybe
they're not in the truth
00:24:30.30\00:24:32.27
that we know right now.
00:24:32.30\00:24:33.90
But maybe they're
living the life that they have,
00:24:33.94\00:24:36.10
you know, and we need
to have mercy for people
00:24:36.14\00:24:39.17
in those walks, you know...
00:24:39.21\00:24:40.71
Yes, amen.
00:24:40.74\00:24:42.34
And our job is to give them,
00:24:42.38\00:24:44.71
you know, let to
go ahead and give them
00:24:44.75\00:24:46.61
because every man
will have that opportunity.
00:24:46.65\00:24:49.68
So, if somebody is
honest, it doesn't,
00:24:49.72\00:24:52.45
I started to say, it
didn't matter where they...
00:24:52.49\00:24:55.12
Well, I guess in a sense,
00:24:55.16\00:24:56.49
it doesn't
matter where you start,
00:24:56.52\00:24:57.86
it's where we end up
00:24:57.89\00:24:59.23
but, you know, that
there's a lot of people
00:24:59.26\00:25:01.10
that start in
another denomination.
00:25:01.13\00:25:03.26
But as they
continue to grow in grace,
00:25:03.30\00:25:05.40
and in strength, and in truth,
00:25:05.43\00:25:07.80
they feel that
calling to come out.
00:25:07.84\00:25:09.47
That's what we talked
about when the heart is right.
00:25:09.50\00:25:11.94
There's so much evidence here.
00:25:11.97\00:25:13.31
There's so much
evidence in Scripture
00:25:13.34\00:25:14.94
that reveals what the
Holy Spirit's going to do
00:25:14.98\00:25:17.71
if you're searching for truth.
00:25:17.75\00:25:19.08
And John 16 and John 15,
00:25:19.11\00:25:20.88
you can look at
it in 1 Timothy 2:4.
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It says, "We come to
the knowledge of the truth."
00:25:23.25\00:25:26.86
Again, knowledge is not
the whole answer, is it?
00:25:26.89\00:25:29.62
No, Like Tim was
saying with the faith
00:25:29.66\00:25:31.49
that made me think of
when a tragedy happens.
00:25:31.53\00:25:35.46
And people say, you
know, why would God allow this
00:25:35.50\00:25:39.73
and you have no answer.
00:25:39.77\00:25:41.40
We don't know the
end from the beginning.
00:25:41.44\00:25:43.81
And all we can say is
you have to trust Him.
00:25:43.84\00:25:47.18
So that's where
the faith comes in,
00:25:47.21\00:25:49.21
to say, I don't
understand but I have to trust.
00:25:49.24\00:25:51.85
And when we know
the character of God,
00:25:51.88\00:25:53.31
and we know His
principles and His ways,
00:25:53.35\00:25:56.02
then we can trust that,
00:25:56.05\00:25:57.39
you know, that He
has our best interest
00:25:57.42\00:25:59.25
whether we understand
those situations or not.
00:25:59.29\00:26:02.09
If we know God's character,
enough about His character,
00:26:02.12\00:26:04.79
then we'll know
that we can trust Him.
00:26:04.83\00:26:07.16
We don't know all the answers
00:26:07.20\00:26:08.53
because our mind is
not on the certain level.
00:26:08.56\00:26:10.07
Oh, no. Right. No, no.
00:26:10.10\00:26:12.20
But we can be assured like say,
the Holy Spirit will teach us
00:26:12.23\00:26:15.40
and as we're willing to learn.
00:26:15.44\00:26:16.94
And then the other
thing is teaching knowledge,
00:26:16.97\00:26:18.31
we just talked about here,
00:26:18.34\00:26:19.74
you know, it's going to
come to the knowledge of truth,
00:26:19.77\00:26:21.74
then Peter, what is
it 1:22 talks about,
00:26:21.78\00:26:25.01
then we need to obey.
00:26:25.05\00:26:26.38
So we come to a what?
00:26:26.41\00:26:27.75
A knowledge and understanding...
00:26:27.78\00:26:29.12
Yes, accountability.
00:26:29.15\00:26:30.49
Simple, accountability,
and then we have to obey.
00:26:30.52\00:26:32.75
So to say, I know.
00:26:32.79\00:26:34.69
I talk to lot of
people, they know everything.
00:26:34.72\00:26:37.43
Okay, say that I,
whatever thing you...
00:26:37.46\00:26:39.46
Everything you say.
00:26:39.49\00:26:40.83
I know, I've been there already,
00:26:40.86\00:26:42.20
I've already done all that.
00:26:42.23\00:26:43.87
Well, that's true, a
lot of them are there.
00:26:43.90\00:26:45.40
But again, it's not, you know,
00:26:45.43\00:26:47.00
we stress that
it's being obedient
00:26:47.04\00:26:49.50
to what you
understand and know is true.
00:26:49.54\00:26:52.24
Exactly.
00:26:52.27\00:26:53.61
Even if I'm a little
confused about something,
00:26:53.64\00:26:54.98
and I'm honest in heart,
00:26:55.01\00:26:56.34
and I'm growing in
Christ, God accepts it.
00:26:56.38\00:26:58.75
I'm still off, I'm
still off the mark,
00:26:58.78\00:27:00.95
but He's going to lead me
because you're honest in heart,
00:27:00.98\00:27:03.62
He's going to
continue to lead me into what?
00:27:03.65\00:27:05.42
All truth.
00:27:05.45\00:27:06.92
All truth, that's a
function of the Holy Spirit.
00:27:06.96\00:27:10.56
So you can say, well,
we have the Holy Spirit,
00:27:10.59\00:27:13.19
you know, and then we're way
off in the North 40 somewhere.
00:27:13.23\00:27:16.26
You know what I mean?
00:27:16.30\00:27:18.47
That's a good point,
00:27:18.50\00:27:19.83
because there's a lot
of churches that claim,
00:27:19.87\00:27:22.40
you know, in fact, they
build their whole church
00:27:22.44\00:27:24.27
around the Holy Spirit,
we have the Holy Spirit.
00:27:24.31\00:27:27.14
But once they
leave that sanctuary,
00:27:27.18\00:27:29.28
basically, they're
living the same life
00:27:29.31\00:27:31.31
that they've
always lived in the world.
00:27:31.35\00:27:33.18
Now, sometimes
they might sometimes,
00:27:33.21\00:27:35.08
they might dress a
little differently.
00:27:35.12\00:27:37.49
But it's the same TV
programs, it's the same place,
00:27:37.52\00:27:39.95
you know, there's not
a real change in the lot.
00:27:39.99\00:27:42.32
The thing that just all,
00:27:42.36\00:27:44.36
we can talk about thing is
as one pastor said one time,
00:27:44.39\00:27:47.03
"Oh, I know, I know, I know.
00:27:47.06\00:27:49.46
We had the Holy Spirit
00:27:49.50\00:27:51.63
and you Adventist
folks have the truth."
00:27:51.67\00:27:54.27
That's an impossibility.
You can't separate.
00:27:54.30\00:27:56.24
My goodness.
00:27:56.27\00:27:57.61
That's an impossibility,
00:27:57.64\00:27:58.97
it separate truth
from the Holy Spirit.
00:27:59.01\00:28:01.71
But see how confused.
00:28:01.74\00:28:03.08
That man eventually
became an Adventist by the way.
00:28:03.11\00:28:04.81
Oh, my goodness.
00:28:04.85\00:28:06.18
We're not gonna go too
far, but, yeah, that's true.
00:28:06.21\00:28:09.72
But you see the point,
00:28:09.75\00:28:11.09
we have the spirit
00:28:11.12\00:28:12.79
and we do a lot
of things at church,
00:28:12.82\00:28:14.16
and there's a lot of hype and
there's lot of this and that,
00:28:14.19\00:28:15.56
that doesn't mean diddly.
00:28:15.59\00:28:16.93
Can I say diddly? You did.
00:28:16.96\00:28:18.29
It doesn't mean anything?
00:28:18.33\00:28:19.69
That's like saying you can
drive a car without a battery.
00:28:19.73\00:28:22.23
Oh, my goodness.
00:28:22.26\00:28:24.10
And you know like something else
00:28:24.13\00:28:25.47
that God has really been
like, just showing me like,
00:28:25.50\00:28:27.97
the last few years is, you know,
00:28:28.00\00:28:29.34
if you really have the truth
00:28:29.37\00:28:30.71
and if you're
really following God,
00:28:30.74\00:28:32.61
there will be
balance in your life.
00:28:32.64\00:28:34.54
You know, you won't go
to one extreme or the other,
00:28:34.58\00:28:36.78
you'll be solid and balanced.
00:28:36.81\00:28:39.81
You know, there won't be that,
00:28:39.85\00:28:41.18
you know, the
crazy, you know, extremes,
00:28:41.22\00:28:44.79
and I think that's
another way we can tell
00:28:44.82\00:28:46.42
if we're learning
truth is that balance.
00:28:46.45\00:28:48.09
Amen. Good balance.
00:28:48.12\00:28:49.72
I like that 'cause
we do need balance.
00:28:49.76\00:28:52.29
That's one thing years ago,
he helped me to do is balance
00:28:52.33\00:28:55.46
because I was one
of those, I think,
00:28:55.50\00:28:57.80
I was, always had a
tendency to go to a park
00:28:57.83\00:29:00.20
because I wanted
to please the Lord.
00:29:00.24\00:29:01.57
I wanted to do what was
right and he taught me balance.
00:29:01.60\00:29:05.07
I really appreciate that.
00:29:05.11\00:29:06.44
Scripture
teaches a good balance,
00:29:06.47\00:29:08.14
it will... As you bring
in the scripture to me...
00:29:08.18\00:29:09.51
Well, that's...
00:29:09.54\00:29:10.88
You know, I'd like to
jump back to where the faith
00:29:10.91\00:29:13.82
and truth connect
00:29:13.85\00:29:16.05
because we're talking about
00:29:16.08\00:29:17.42
how we're going to
know what truth is.
00:29:17.45\00:29:18.79
What if we were
00:29:18.82\00:29:20.22
just in the audience
and in Pharaoh's hall,
00:29:20.26\00:29:25.06
When Moses came in?
00:29:25.09\00:29:26.46
Oh, boy.
00:29:26.49\00:29:28.30
You know, when his staff
was turned into a serpent,
00:29:28.33\00:29:32.43
and then the magicians came up
00:29:32.47\00:29:33.87
and their staffs
turned into serpents.
00:29:33.90\00:29:35.84
You see, we can't
always believe what we see,
00:29:35.87\00:29:39.17
you can't always
believe what you hear.
00:29:39.21\00:29:41.61
And what about
Christ in the desert,
00:29:41.64\00:29:43.85
the loaves of
bread, don't you know
00:29:43.88\00:29:45.38
he smelled that bread
after 40 days and 40 nights
00:29:45.41\00:29:49.88
and you're so
hungry, you're in a mess.
00:29:49.92\00:29:52.99
What's the word?
00:29:53.02\00:29:54.36
Anyway, was very, very hungry.
00:29:54.39\00:29:56.22
Emancipated, is
that the right word?
00:29:56.26\00:29:58.33
I may forget it. Emaciated.
00:29:58.36\00:30:00.96
That's it, emaciated.
I knew there was a word.
00:30:01.00\00:30:04.33
He was emaciated from
hunger. Too hungry to think.
00:30:04.37\00:30:06.87
That's right. I
needed to learn a thing.
00:30:06.90\00:30:09.37
But you see what I'm saying?
00:30:09.40\00:30:10.74
It would've been so easy,
00:30:10.77\00:30:12.11
like God has sent
me bread after 40 days.
00:30:12.14\00:30:16.01
You know so...
00:30:16.04\00:30:17.38
Because the devil
came as what, honey?
00:30:17.41\00:30:18.81
As an angel of light.
00:30:18.85\00:30:20.18
As the devil or as an angel
from heaven to come to help,
00:30:20.22\00:30:22.78
come to help Christ.
00:30:22.82\00:30:24.15
And he had to
know the scriptures,
00:30:24.19\00:30:26.19
I mean to the tee,
00:30:26.22\00:30:28.26
to a tee to be able to pinpoint
the just minute differences
00:30:28.29\00:30:33.60
that the enemy presented
to him so is truth important.
00:30:33.63\00:30:37.20
Amen.
00:30:37.23\00:30:38.57
Same for us, we
wouldn't really, we wouldn't...
00:30:38.60\00:30:40.00
How do we understand?
00:30:40.04\00:30:41.37
If you know truth
that exposes error,
00:30:41.40\00:30:44.11
what do we present is the truth,
00:30:44.14\00:30:45.47
we don't present error,
00:30:45.51\00:30:46.91
but you have to
know what truth is first,
00:30:46.94\00:30:49.38
and the Holy Spirit
will lead and guide you
00:30:49.41\00:30:50.75
into all truth as Bible says.
00:30:50.78\00:30:52.81
That's the point.
We praise God. Yes.
00:30:52.85\00:30:54.92
You know, I think faith
to like for me getting older,
00:30:54.95\00:30:57.95
I've often
complained, I don't recall,
00:30:57.99\00:31:00.16
I don't remember
as well as I used to.
00:31:00.19\00:31:03.46
And I'm not sure if
that has anything to do
00:31:03.49\00:31:05.63
with just getting older or just,
00:31:05.66\00:31:07.86
you know, health problems
or whatever, I'm not sure.
00:31:07.90\00:31:11.30
But that concerns me.
00:31:11.33\00:31:12.67
Most of them around the
table is not gonna be able
00:31:12.70\00:31:14.04
to answer that,
they say we're not there.
00:31:14.07\00:31:15.40
But, you know, I think...
00:31:15.44\00:31:16.77
I'm passed there.
00:31:16.81\00:31:18.14
You passed, but I'm
thinking about faith,
00:31:18.17\00:31:21.04
even in that ramification,
00:31:21.08\00:31:23.65
because there's a lot
of people that you see,
00:31:23.68\00:31:26.68
and eventually
they may come down
00:31:26.72\00:31:28.15
with a terrible
disease and lose their mind,
00:31:28.18\00:31:30.59
you know, but it's
faith knowing that God
00:31:30.62\00:31:32.95
even through that
trial will take care of them.
00:31:32.99\00:31:35.86
He understands and He's going
to oversee everything for us.
00:31:35.89\00:31:39.29
Truth is so valuable is
what you're talking about.
00:31:39.33\00:31:43.03
Proverbs 23:23, so
it's easy to remember
00:31:43.06\00:31:45.73
Proverbs 23, it says,
00:31:45.77\00:31:47.14
you know, "Buy the
truth and sell it not."
00:31:47.17\00:31:51.14
So, and again,
what does it cost?
00:31:51.17\00:31:53.27
You know, Bruce,
00:31:53.31\00:31:54.71
what does it
cost to buy the truth?
00:31:54.74\00:31:56.61
What did it cost,
Bruce? What did they cost?
00:31:56.64\00:32:00.55
Truth, Jesus is right, is truth.
00:32:00.58\00:32:02.88
It costs Him all of heaven.
All of heaven, that's right.
00:32:02.92\00:32:06.39
He's emptied down
00:32:06.42\00:32:07.76
to make sure we
understood what truth is,
00:32:07.79\00:32:09.46
and how we can follow the truth,
00:32:09.49\00:32:11.06
set an example.
00:32:11.09\00:32:12.43
When people say, somebody,
I just don't know what to do?
00:32:12.46\00:32:15.16
I can't get in with
that truth and what did...
00:32:15.20\00:32:17.33
I just say
something very simple,
00:32:17.37\00:32:18.70
I'm like Bruce,
I'm simple-minded.
00:32:18.73\00:32:20.27
It's simple,
said, you know, what?
00:32:20.30\00:32:21.70
Just read the Bible,
what Jesus did, just do that,
00:32:21.74\00:32:23.87
by the grace of
God, by His strength.
00:32:23.91\00:32:25.81
Just follow in His footsteps
and you're going to be okay.
00:32:25.84\00:32:29.38
Don't scratch out thing.
00:32:29.41\00:32:30.75
Well, He did 'cause
somebody said it changed now.
00:32:30.78\00:32:32.51
I said no, no, He never changes.
00:32:32.55\00:32:34.75
What He did, what
He lived on this earth,
00:32:34.78\00:32:37.09
we can by faith
follow in those footsteps.
00:32:37.12\00:32:40.29
And it's going to be okay.
00:32:40.32\00:32:41.89
It's pretty simple, I think.
00:32:41.92\00:32:43.46
Doesn't mean you're
accepted by the world.
00:32:43.49\00:32:45.03
The world doesn't...
They're not gonna accept you.
00:32:45.06\00:32:46.80
At a time, but not completely.
00:32:46.83\00:32:49.70
You know, I wrote
down several passages
00:32:49.73\00:32:51.67
that deal with truth,
00:32:51.70\00:32:53.03
but one that I
thought about Matthew 18:3.
00:32:53.07\00:32:56.34
It said, "And said,
'Verily I say unto you,
00:32:56.37\00:32:59.87
except ye be converted,
and become as little children,
00:32:59.91\00:33:04.78
ye shall not enter into
the kingdom of heaven.'"
00:33:04.81\00:33:07.32
And I thought about that
00:33:07.35\00:33:08.82
because little children
are so loving, so trusting.
00:33:08.85\00:33:13.56
When they hear mom
and dad and we look
00:33:13.59\00:33:16.46
at our Heavenly
Father as our father.
00:33:16.49\00:33:19.83
What He says, He changes
not, it is absolute truth.
00:33:19.86\00:33:23.90
So when we read that,
it's like a little child,
00:33:23.93\00:33:26.13
when they hear mom and
dad say something about,
00:33:26.17\00:33:29.34
you know, don't touch that
00:33:29.37\00:33:31.64
or don't put that
plant in your mouth,
00:33:31.67\00:33:33.17
that's poisonous.
00:33:33.21\00:33:35.24
You know, most children
00:33:35.28\00:33:36.68
are not gonna put
that plant in their mouth,
00:33:36.71\00:33:40.58
because they realize
it could make them sick.
00:33:40.62\00:33:42.75
There's a few of us.
00:33:42.78\00:33:45.45
I said most.
00:33:45.49\00:33:46.82
I think there's
always a challenge.
00:33:46.86\00:33:48.19
I know for
somebody maybe a challenge.
00:33:48.22\00:33:49.62
They say, don't do it, that's
automatically they're doing it.
00:33:49.66\00:33:51.49
Yeah, but you're
trying to give back.
00:33:51.53\00:33:52.86
A good parent
would put that plant up
00:33:52.89\00:33:54.63
or if it were a houseplant
or, you know, so God is good.
00:33:54.66\00:33:58.80
Again talking about the
ways that He leads us to truth,
00:33:58.83\00:34:02.74
you know, through
the process of life.
00:34:02.77\00:34:05.47
So... So it's more than what?
00:34:05.51\00:34:07.44
Just telling them. Right.
00:34:07.48\00:34:08.94
We have to do, also
do something with it.
00:34:08.98\00:34:12.85
Just leave it down
from here to get into,
00:34:12.88\00:34:14.58
no we have to do
something take it,
00:34:14.62\00:34:16.15
and put it maybe in the
place where they can't get.
00:34:16.18\00:34:18.59
That reminds me of my,
our granddaughter Kaylee,
00:34:18.62\00:34:21.39
when she was
little, it didn't matter
00:34:21.42\00:34:24.06
what nana and papa said,
that was the gospel truth.
00:34:24.09\00:34:28.36
Yeah, it was the gospel truth,
and if anybody questioned her,
00:34:28.40\00:34:31.90
she shook her head, she
said that's what nana said.
00:34:31.93\00:34:34.50
That's what papa said.
00:34:34.54\00:34:35.87
He got off on the... The plant.
00:34:35.90\00:34:38.61
The disobedient child.
00:34:38.64\00:34:40.38
But if a child is
obedient and they're loving,
00:34:40.41\00:34:42.68
they're going to,
00:34:42.71\00:34:44.05
they're going to do
exactly what she did.
00:34:44.08\00:34:46.01
That is right
00:34:46.05\00:34:47.38
because that's
what my nana said,
00:34:47.42\00:34:49.12
I can't eat that...
00:34:49.15\00:34:50.49
And nobody could
change your mind.
00:34:50.52\00:34:51.85
Nobody could change your mind
00:34:51.89\00:34:53.22
because nana said and papa said,
00:34:53.25\00:34:54.76
you know, so and that's how
we should be with God, exactly.
00:34:54.79\00:34:57.76
Exactly.
00:34:57.79\00:34:59.13
And I like that
because we realize,
00:34:59.16\00:35:01.00
when we become inundated
with the things of the world,
00:35:01.03\00:35:04.17
there comes a time
when that little twig,
00:35:04.20\00:35:06.03
you think of a child as twig,
00:35:06.07\00:35:07.40
you know, you can kind of
bend and mold them into little.
00:35:07.44\00:35:10.21
But once they're older,
00:35:10.24\00:35:12.04
it's very difficult
to move that tree now,
00:35:12.07\00:35:15.54
you know, but, and
that's what I mean.
00:35:15.58\00:35:17.55
When a child is little,
00:35:17.58\00:35:19.35
they're not so inundated
with the things of the world,
00:35:19.38\00:35:21.52
they haven't been,
00:35:21.55\00:35:22.88
their minds haven't been drawn
in so many other facets of...
00:35:22.92\00:35:27.62
And I like to say,
snares of the enemy
00:35:27.66\00:35:30.76
that confuses the mind.
00:35:30.79\00:35:32.13
So he likes to get
us so busy, so confused,
00:35:32.16\00:35:35.83
that when we hear
truth, we're skeptic
00:35:35.86\00:35:39.47
as to whether or not it's true.
00:35:39.50\00:35:40.84
If it's not
truth, what would it be?
00:35:40.87\00:35:42.30
Error.
00:35:42.34\00:35:43.67
I mean, it's error, it
would be what Jesus spoke about,
00:35:43.71\00:35:45.87
wouldn't it be...
00:35:45.91\00:35:47.24
He talks about,
wasn't Matthew 15:9,
00:35:47.28\00:35:50.18
you know, "In vain
do they worship Me,
00:35:50.21\00:35:51.68
teaching for
doctrines" the what?
00:35:51.71\00:35:54.08
"The commandments of men."
00:35:54.12\00:35:56.22
So we're either
preaching, teaching traditions,
00:35:56.25\00:35:58.72
or this is what
the church taught,
00:35:58.75\00:36:00.09
this is what our forefathers
what they all taught,
00:36:00.12\00:36:02.49
rather than what
does the Bible teach.
00:36:02.52\00:36:04.49
This is what, if it
not, then we're teaching,
00:36:04.53\00:36:06.46
you know, traditions
rather than what is truth,
00:36:06.49\00:36:09.33
so and the devil likes that.
00:36:09.36\00:36:11.47
He's not going to fight this.
00:36:11.50\00:36:12.83
Oh, let's let the
church, let these people
00:36:12.87\00:36:14.24
to teach all kind of traditions
and all kind of this and that,
00:36:14.27\00:36:17.21
because we're talking
about truth transform,
00:36:17.24\00:36:20.48
tradition doesn't.
00:36:20.51\00:36:21.84
I was gonna put you
off in some other place
00:36:21.88\00:36:23.48
where we won't be transformed
to image of Jesus, right?
00:36:23.51\00:36:26.05
Isn't this what
we're talking about?
00:36:26.08\00:36:27.85
And so truth is so,
so very, very important.
00:36:27.88\00:36:31.15
Matthew 15:6, it says,
00:36:31.19\00:36:32.95
"Thus have you made
the commandments of God
00:36:32.99\00:36:35.46
of none effect
by your traditions."
00:36:35.49\00:36:38.43
So we had to figure out
whether it's truth or it's not.
00:36:38.46\00:36:41.10
If you don't, you
just made the Word of God
00:36:41.13\00:36:42.50
just none effect right here.
00:36:42.53\00:36:45.30
So I have thing,
I'll read it quickly...
00:36:45.33\00:36:47.77
I mean, this may gets heavy duty
00:36:47.80\00:36:50.71
because of the subject matter,
00:36:50.74\00:36:53.64
and this goes a little deeper
than some will want to go,
00:36:53.68\00:36:55.64
but I like to do that, I
like to challenge people.
00:36:55.68\00:36:59.48
I like to get in and dig.
00:36:59.51\00:37:01.02
Sometime I dig a
little bit too deep.
00:37:01.05\00:37:02.78
But I think we need to
dig, I mean, dig, dig, dig
00:37:02.82\00:37:05.62
to find out what...
00:37:05.65\00:37:06.99
There's such thing as
we gonna dig in too deep.
00:37:07.02\00:37:08.36
Little bit too
deep, and then they say
00:37:08.39\00:37:09.86
you have tried
to dig your way out.
00:37:09.89\00:37:11.23
Yeah, dig your way out.
00:37:11.26\00:37:12.59
Get in deep and
let's get the Word of God
00:37:12.63\00:37:14.06
and let's dig our
way back out of it,
00:37:14.10\00:37:15.83
because I want
to be never, never,
00:37:15.86\00:37:17.63
never be so
prideful that you can't say,
00:37:17.67\00:37:19.57
oh, I was mistaken on that.
00:37:19.60\00:37:21.24
Yes, that's true. Oh,
I thought this was true.
00:37:21.27\00:37:24.01
I had to back up and
take another step here
00:37:24.04\00:37:25.91
and there in my Christian growth
00:37:25.94\00:37:27.71
from the youth on
up to today, to say
00:37:27.74\00:37:30.68
this was what I really
thought it seemed like,
00:37:30.71\00:37:32.81
well, but I see
another aspect of it right now.
00:37:32.85\00:37:36.32
Then that, that's
always the learning stage.
00:37:36.35\00:37:38.89
There's a Review
and Herald article,
00:37:38.92\00:37:40.82
20-1896, this was written.
00:37:40.86\00:37:42.66
It says, let the watchman,
00:37:42.69\00:37:44.39
so every time I
see that, I just...
00:37:44.43\00:37:46.13
We're all watchman.
00:37:46.16\00:37:47.50
We're to be
watchman on the wall.
00:37:47.53\00:37:48.86
On the wall.
00:37:48.90\00:37:50.23
Yeah, "Let the watchman
00:37:50.27\00:37:51.60
not join with those who
making none effect the truth."
00:37:51.63\00:37:54.70
Excuse me. So and
this is interesting.
00:37:54.74\00:37:56.77
We have to balance it,
00:37:56.81\00:37:58.14
we're talking
about balance again.
00:37:58.17\00:37:59.67
We're not to join
in with those who what?
00:37:59.71\00:38:01.91
Are making none affect the truth
00:38:01.94\00:38:04.08
as it is in Christ.
00:38:04.11\00:38:06.18
Now, this is heavy now.
00:38:06.21\00:38:07.55
Let them not join, notice this,
the confederacy of infidelity,
00:38:07.58\00:38:12.45
popery or Protestantism
00:38:12.49\00:38:14.79
in exalting tradition
above scripture, reason,"
00:38:14.82\00:38:18.86
Bruce, was talking about reason
about basically Revelation,
00:38:18.89\00:38:21.96
human talent above
the divine influence
00:38:22.00\00:38:25.00
and the vital
power of godliness.
00:38:25.03\00:38:27.90
That's really good. That...
00:38:27.94\00:38:29.27
I mean that could be the
rest of the subject as far as,
00:38:29.30\00:38:31.67
you know, our discussion here.
00:38:31.71\00:38:33.78
There has to come a
point that we love truth
00:38:33.81\00:38:35.81
and love God enough
00:38:35.84\00:38:37.25
that sometime we have to
let other things go in life,
00:38:37.28\00:38:40.82
and it may be
friendships and everything
00:38:40.85\00:38:42.45
that's pulling us
backwards, pulling us down,
00:38:42.48\00:38:44.82
pulling us
against what is truth,
00:38:44.85\00:38:47.06
what the Holy Spirit
has impressed you, me,
00:38:47.09\00:38:49.56
each one, this is truth.
00:38:49.59\00:38:51.33
And then a good
friend comes along,
00:38:51.36\00:38:52.69
said, well, this
is not really the way
00:38:52.73\00:38:54.06
that it is.
00:38:54.10\00:38:55.43
Sometimes we have to
kind of get away from that
00:38:55.46\00:38:56.80
and go back to the Word of God,
00:38:56.83\00:38:58.43
because we're
watchman on the walls,
00:38:58.47\00:39:00.40
and we need not
get involved in that
00:39:00.44\00:39:02.64
because we lose the
power of godliness in life.
00:39:02.67\00:39:06.04
But we have a form,
remember Bible talks
00:39:06.07\00:39:07.58
about a form of godliness,
00:39:07.61\00:39:09.21
but we're denying
the power of trans...
00:39:09.24\00:39:12.45
You know, we were
talking about transformed,
00:39:12.48\00:39:15.68
being transformed, has
to be the power of God.
00:39:15.72\00:39:18.12
You know, you mentioned friends
and Satan can use anyone that,
00:39:18.15\00:39:22.62
you know,
sometimes don't even realize
00:39:22.66\00:39:24.36
they're being used by Satan.
00:39:24.39\00:39:25.73
But, you know, early
on in my Christian walk
00:39:25.76\00:39:27.63
I had friends that, you
know, especially one good friend
00:39:27.66\00:39:30.77
that you know,
we were like sisters
00:39:30.80\00:39:33.10
and that friendship,
00:39:33.13\00:39:34.54
I could see it
from the beginning,
00:39:34.57\00:39:36.20
that if it continued
00:39:36.24\00:39:37.97
that there would be
a bad influence there,
00:39:38.01\00:39:39.94
and so I really prayed about
it and that was really hard.
00:39:39.97\00:39:43.31
But I had to
distance myself from her,
00:39:43.35\00:39:46.78
my really good friend and
but, you know, I can see now
00:39:46.82\00:39:50.35
where God was
doing that on purpose
00:39:50.39\00:39:52.62
because, you know,
00:39:52.65\00:39:54.52
even though you have that
connection with that person,
00:39:54.56\00:39:56.83
that can,
00:39:56.86\00:39:58.19
you know, Satan
can use relationships.
00:39:58.23\00:40:01.30
And he does it to his
advantage to where it makes us,
00:40:01.33\00:40:05.23
you know,
question things about God,
00:40:05.27\00:40:07.70
but if we go for
our emotions and our...
00:40:07.74\00:40:10.01
You know, those connections
then we can get in trouble.
00:40:10.04\00:40:14.14
Is that scriptural?
Yes, I mean, absolutely.
00:40:14.18\00:40:17.18
I'm just asking
just, is it scriptural?
00:40:17.21\00:40:19.51
Is it from Book of Genesis
00:40:19.55\00:40:22.18
to the back of the
Book of Revelation?
00:40:22.22\00:40:23.95
Yeah.
00:40:23.99\00:40:25.32
That's consistent
whatsoever that God requires us.
00:40:25.35\00:40:28.56
He says, "Come
apart and be separated
00:40:28.59\00:40:30.23
and touch not the unclean."
00:40:30.26\00:40:31.96
Doesn't mean you
go and work for them,
00:40:31.99\00:40:33.33
and you love them,
and you're gonna be here,
00:40:33.36\00:40:34.83
but sometime socializing
and spending a lot of time.
00:40:34.86\00:40:38.73
Well, if it's not elevated,
it's gonna drag us down.
00:40:38.77\00:40:42.10
You know, I've been
trough that earlier years
00:40:42.14\00:40:43.81
and probably
everybody here has...
00:40:43.84\00:40:45.17
There's different
people who want...
00:40:45.21\00:40:47.44
You'd want to be around
because they elevate you
00:40:47.48\00:40:49.04
toward heaven,
00:40:49.08\00:40:50.41
and there's
others who drag you down,
00:40:50.45\00:40:52.18
and give you questions
00:40:52.21\00:40:53.55
that maybe we shouldn't have it,
00:40:53.58\00:40:54.92
you know, in the Word of God.
00:40:54.95\00:40:56.28
So I'm 100% agreeing with
that we need to stay close.
00:40:56.32\00:41:00.06
When I'm working with kids,
00:41:00.09\00:41:01.69
Tammy, lot of times we're saying
00:41:01.72\00:41:03.06
there's a flag flying
high in the castle of my heart.
00:41:03.09\00:41:06.43
You know that flag
represents a standard
00:41:06.46\00:41:09.56
and what happens
because we love people so much
00:41:09.60\00:41:13.64
and when we spend more time
00:41:13.67\00:41:15.04
or we go
somewhere where you say,
00:41:15.07\00:41:16.84
Well, I know they're
not preaching all the truth,
00:41:16.87\00:41:19.14
but they've got some of it.
00:41:19.17\00:41:20.91
We find ourselves beginning
to lower our standards.
00:41:20.94\00:41:25.68
And I know there's
a lot of times that,
00:41:25.71\00:41:27.72
you know, Jesus said,
00:41:27.75\00:41:29.08
there's so many
things I want to tell you,
00:41:29.12\00:41:30.45
but you're not ready.
00:41:30.49\00:41:32.45
And thank you,
Bruce, because now I sense,
00:41:32.49\00:41:35.62
I see that I've experienced
that more than ever before,
00:41:35.66\00:41:39.19
because there's things
that I want to tell people
00:41:39.23\00:41:41.90
but they're not there yet.
00:41:41.93\00:41:43.97
The heart hasn't been made ready
00:41:44.00\00:41:46.94
and so, you know,
until the heart's made ready
00:41:46.97\00:41:49.70
but I think our job
00:41:49.74\00:41:51.24
and that's why
it's so wonderful,
00:41:51.27\00:41:52.61
we have all of these avenues,
00:41:52.64\00:41:54.18
whether it's 3ABN
00:41:54.21\00:41:56.18
or these wonderful
books you mentioned,
00:41:56.21\00:41:58.25
Steps to Christ
00:41:58.28\00:41:59.75
that we can give and just pray
00:41:59.78\00:42:01.22
that the Holy Spirit
00:42:01.25\00:42:02.58
will encourage someone
to pick it up and read it.
00:42:02.62\00:42:04.82
And someone asked me,
00:42:04.85\00:42:06.99
as I discussed
the Steps to Christ
00:42:07.02\00:42:09.26
and the puppy
folders and someone said,
00:42:09.29\00:42:11.69
well, so do you
follow up after they go home,
00:42:11.73\00:42:14.46
they take, do you follow up
00:42:14.50\00:42:15.83
and ask, have they read it?
00:42:15.86\00:42:17.40
What did they think about?
00:42:17.43\00:42:18.77
And I said, absolutely not,
00:42:18.80\00:42:20.17
that's not my job to
follow up and do that.
00:42:20.20\00:42:23.91
I put, I plant the
seed and it's up to God
00:42:23.94\00:42:27.01
to do the rest
and open the heart.
00:42:27.04\00:42:29.48
And the last thing I want to
do is put somebody on the spot
00:42:29.51\00:42:32.71
and say, "Did
you read that book,
00:42:32.75\00:42:34.72
you know, that I gave you?"
00:42:34.75\00:42:36.45
And then they're
embarrassed if they didn't.
00:42:36.48\00:42:38.85
You know, so you're just kind of
00:42:38.89\00:42:40.36
putting people in a corner,
00:42:40.39\00:42:41.99
so that's just my
way of planting the seed
00:42:42.02\00:42:44.93
and hoping that God
will take care of rest.
00:42:44.96\00:42:46.63
And many times
people have questioned you.
00:42:46.66\00:42:48.86
That's a beautiful thing.
00:42:48.90\00:42:50.83
Yeah, that's kind of
a tough one, isn't it?
00:42:50.87\00:42:53.94
I'm the one who
follows up with some drag.
00:42:53.97\00:42:57.41
But I think it just takes...
It is personality driven.
00:42:57.44\00:42:59.67
And discernment.
Yeah, yeah, you're right.
00:42:59.71\00:43:01.91
The discernment. It has
to be right discernment.
00:43:01.94\00:43:03.48
Well, but think
about sometimes too
00:43:03.51\00:43:04.85
because when
somebody gives me something
00:43:04.88\00:43:08.82
a guy just gave
me a couple of DVDs
00:43:08.85\00:43:11.19
and some paper,
while I'm working so on
00:43:11.22\00:43:13.12
and so forth and
say, can you watch these?
00:43:13.15\00:43:14.86
And I want to know
what you think about it,
00:43:14.89\00:43:16.52
you know, it's all good
but he's gonna come back.
00:43:16.56\00:43:19.23
This is about spiritual matters.
00:43:19.26\00:43:21.96
Yes. Yeah, spiritual matters.
00:43:22.00\00:43:23.33
Oh, yes, yeah,
spiritual matters,
00:43:23.37\00:43:24.70
so, I mean, it's all good.
00:43:24.73\00:43:26.20
But I thoroughly expect
that he will come back to me
00:43:26.23\00:43:29.37
as a friend, and I know
him or something's to say.
00:43:29.40\00:43:31.94
Not that what
Tammy is doing wrong
00:43:31.97\00:43:33.64
because it's very clear,
because one plants and what?
00:43:33.68\00:43:37.98
The other waters.
00:43:38.01\00:43:39.35
Another waters, and
somebody comes by and reach.
00:43:39.38\00:43:41.42
So there's phases of that,
00:43:41.45\00:43:43.39
but again
everybody is not the same
00:43:43.42\00:43:45.75
in a way that they do
and I think that's okay too,
00:43:45.79\00:43:47.92
so sometime I just, I expect
he will come back and say,
00:43:47.96\00:43:50.99
now did you watch
those, you know, did you,
00:43:51.03\00:43:55.46
which is kind of holding
me responsible and accountable
00:43:55.50\00:43:58.07
for what he will you.
00:43:58.10\00:43:59.43
Right.
00:43:59.47\00:44:00.80
No, you go. Okay.
00:44:00.84\00:44:02.17
I was just thinking to,
00:44:02.20\00:44:03.54
I think it also
depends on the situation,
00:44:03.57\00:44:04.97
like if you directly
just gave him the book
00:44:05.01\00:44:07.01
and talked about it
and then later followed up,
00:44:07.04\00:44:10.41
I think that's
one thing but another,
00:44:10.45\00:44:11.95
you know, what
she's doing is given
00:44:11.98\00:44:13.65
like where it's
include with other stuff,
00:44:13.68\00:44:16.28
the focal point
00:44:16.32\00:44:17.65
and maybe so
00:44:17.69\00:44:19.02
there's a little bit of a
different focus there too,
00:44:19.05\00:44:21.36
you know, so it's kind
of like pray it definitely
00:44:21.39\00:44:24.53
by the Holy Spirit.
00:44:24.56\00:44:25.89
Everybody has
touched on something
00:44:25.93\00:44:27.60
that is true that we
can find scripturally.
00:44:27.63\00:44:30.63
But I think the
biggest thing is,
00:44:30.67\00:44:32.63
and I learned this
many, many years ago
00:44:32.67\00:44:34.04
is to pray for an open door.
00:44:34.07\00:44:36.04
Amen. Yes.
00:44:36.07\00:44:37.41
So if they read that book,
00:44:37.44\00:44:40.78
and they may have questions,
more questions for Tammy,
00:44:40.81\00:44:43.75
or if she's talking to them,
00:44:43.78\00:44:45.55
and she's been
praying for an open door
00:44:45.58\00:44:47.62
and they say something,
00:44:47.65\00:44:49.08
then she might be able
to allude back to the book,
00:44:49.12\00:44:52.65
back to God,
00:44:52.69\00:44:54.02
you know, so we
pray for those open doors
00:44:54.06\00:44:56.56
'cause if we
force that door open
00:44:56.59\00:45:00.00
and they'll slam it in our face.
00:45:00.03\00:45:01.66
How, not just me
00:45:01.70\00:45:03.33
but how people conduct business.
00:45:03.37\00:45:06.63
When you have a
lot of interaction
00:45:06.67\00:45:09.54
with different people,
00:45:09.57\00:45:10.91
I have people that
come from all over.
00:45:10.94\00:45:13.07
And how you conduct business
and try to do the right thing,
00:45:13.11\00:45:17.98
if there's a problem that does
more than just about anything
00:45:18.01\00:45:22.58
because then people will...
00:45:22.62\00:45:24.99
I've had an instance
and I won't go into it.
00:45:25.02\00:45:27.12
But anyway, I helped the person
and with this puppy situation,
00:45:27.16\00:45:32.33
and they said, you know what?
00:45:32.36\00:45:34.23
And I'd never through
the months of talking to him,
00:45:34.26\00:45:36.77
I had never got the impression
that they were Christians.
00:45:36.80\00:45:40.14
Not in a bad way, I
just hadn't, you know,
00:45:40.17\00:45:43.14
said anything that
would lead me to believe
00:45:43.17\00:45:46.47
and when I gave them this puppy,
00:45:46.51\00:45:49.34
they said, we're going
to name this puppy Shiloh,
00:45:49.38\00:45:51.91
because we've looked it
up in it in different aspects
00:45:51.95\00:45:54.92
it might mean gift of
God, something like that.
00:45:54.95\00:45:57.19
And they said,
00:45:57.22\00:45:58.55
we feel that what you
have done is a gift of God
00:45:58.59\00:46:01.22
and so we're going
to name the puppy this.
00:46:01.26\00:46:03.12
Well, that just blew me away,
00:46:03.16\00:46:04.56
because you know,
00:46:04.59\00:46:05.99
you never know
what people's thinking.
00:46:06.03\00:46:08.06
But when you try
to conduct yourself
00:46:08.10\00:46:10.30
in the right manner
00:46:10.33\00:46:11.67
and ask the Lord to
help you to do that,
00:46:11.70\00:46:13.23
it makes an impression,
00:46:13.27\00:46:14.70
a lot more than you
could preach or teach
00:46:14.74\00:46:16.50
I think sometimes.
00:46:16.54\00:46:17.87
Exactly, and they'll
read that book sometimes,
00:46:17.91\00:46:20.54
they'll read your letter
00:46:20.58\00:46:21.91
because you've witnessed
in your business transaction.
00:46:21.94\00:46:25.21
They have seen Christ
in you, the hope of glory
00:46:25.25\00:46:27.92
and it makes people want to say,
00:46:27.95\00:46:29.32
man, they gave me this,
I think I'll look at that.
00:46:29.35\00:46:31.52
So none of the aspect is wrong,
00:46:31.55\00:46:33.25
those are all
perfect and wonderful
00:46:33.29\00:46:34.86
what everybody's doing.
00:46:34.89\00:46:36.22
But there will
be different ones,
00:46:36.26\00:46:37.59
will do different things,
00:46:37.63\00:46:38.96
and like saying still
being a Christ like way
00:46:38.99\00:46:41.43
that we do those things
00:46:41.46\00:46:42.80
and be a witness
you're talking about
00:46:42.83\00:46:44.50
because witness is transforming.
00:46:44.53\00:46:46.13
I can hear here, there's
some people being transformed.
00:46:46.17\00:46:49.74
You see the transformed
people that you work with,
00:46:49.77\00:46:51.47
you see them being transformed.
00:46:51.51\00:46:53.11
You mentioned while ago,
whatnot, immediately sometimes.
00:46:53.14\00:46:56.75
Oh, yeah. Right, right.
00:46:56.78\00:46:58.38
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
00:46:58.41\00:47:00.18
And, you know, a lot
of times we pass judgment.
00:47:00.22\00:47:03.28
Like you
mentioned you had no idea
00:47:03.32\00:47:04.85
whether or not
they were Christians,
00:47:04.89\00:47:07.26
but you made a
very important point
00:47:07.29\00:47:09.92
and that's one reason
that I think our dress,
00:47:09.96\00:47:12.26
our deportment,
or the way we speak,
00:47:12.29\00:47:15.53
because people are going
to pick up on those things.
00:47:15.56\00:47:17.83
They're looking.
They're watching.
00:47:17.87\00:47:19.20
Oh, they are.
00:47:19.23\00:47:20.57
And those in our family
are going to know the truth.
00:47:20.60\00:47:23.64
They're really going to see it.
00:47:23.67\00:47:25.01
You know, they
see all signs in this.
00:47:25.04\00:47:27.81
So really our
missionary work begins where?
00:47:27.84\00:47:30.35
At home. Yeah.
00:47:30.38\00:47:32.05
At home, and
then as a home begins
00:47:32.08\00:47:35.12
to become more Christ like
00:47:35.15\00:47:36.79
and heavenly
atmosphere begins to be,
00:47:36.82\00:47:41.02
to dwell in that facility,
00:47:41.06\00:47:43.19
then we can share these
things with other people.
00:47:43.22\00:47:46.13
You know, because
you've all experienced,
00:47:46.16\00:47:48.76
I've experienced it
with some of the way.
00:47:48.80\00:47:52.10
I don't really want
to describe it to a tee,
00:47:52.13\00:47:54.24
but there's some
people way they dress
00:47:54.27\00:47:56.50
I wouldn't think that they
knew anything about Christ.
00:47:56.54\00:47:59.24
But then again, you know,
00:47:59.27\00:48:02.81
it can be
deceiving because maybe...
00:48:02.84\00:48:05.18
Maybe where they're at in
their Christian experience,
00:48:05.21\00:48:07.42
they're trying at times
00:48:07.45\00:48:08.78
that they are on
maybe the bottom rung.
00:48:08.82\00:48:10.22
I feel like when I
look at that big ladder
00:48:10.25\00:48:11.89
leads from earth
all way to heaven,
00:48:11.92\00:48:13.25
I'm on the bottom rung.
00:48:13.29\00:48:14.82
You know, and I'm fighting,
struggling by the grace of God
00:48:14.86\00:48:18.33
doing what I understand do
to reach up for the next one.
00:48:18.36\00:48:21.83
And that's why it's so important
00:48:21.86\00:48:23.20
that no matter who we mean,
00:48:23.23\00:48:24.80
what they look like, that
we love them all the same.
00:48:24.83\00:48:28.27
You know, Christ
loved the sinner,
00:48:28.30\00:48:30.41
but he hated the what?
00:48:30.44\00:48:31.77
The sin.
00:48:31.81\00:48:33.14
The sin, because it's sin
that separates us from heaven.
00:48:33.17\00:48:36.41
It's sin that emptied
all of heaven to save us.
00:48:36.44\00:48:41.48
And it's sin that will
keep us out of the kingdom.
00:48:41.52\00:48:44.35
Oh, absolutely.
00:48:44.39\00:48:45.72
But it's the truth
that will set us free.
00:48:45.75\00:48:48.56
Free from what? Sin.
00:48:48.59\00:48:50.36
From sin. Yes.
00:48:50.39\00:48:51.76
Free from sin.
00:48:51.79\00:48:53.60
So that's why truth
is so vitally important.
00:48:53.63\00:48:56.77
How do you...
00:48:56.80\00:48:58.13
How do you come
to love the truth?
00:48:58.17\00:48:59.73
And there's a difference.
00:48:59.77\00:49:01.10
When we talk about
truth and knowledge,
00:49:01.14\00:49:02.57
it's not going
to get you anywhere.
00:49:02.60\00:49:03.94
It's nice to have. Right.
00:49:03.97\00:49:05.31
This brings me
to a good question.
00:49:05.34\00:49:06.68
Yeah, but how do
I come to love it?
00:49:06.71\00:49:08.24
Well, like I know
somebody that they,
00:49:08.28\00:49:12.81
all they watched
3ABN 24/7, they study,
00:49:12.85\00:49:16.48
they read to the
point that it's like,
00:49:16.52\00:49:21.66
they're so unhappy because
they're going, they're saying,
00:49:21.69\00:49:25.36
I can never
reach all these goals,
00:49:25.39\00:49:28.06
all these things that were
told that we must do and say,
00:49:28.10\00:49:32.30
and I am just...
00:49:32.33\00:49:33.67
I'm never gonna make it.
I'm never going to make it.
00:49:33.70\00:49:37.07
How do you deal
with somebody like that?
00:49:37.11\00:49:39.01
I've to say one thing
00:49:39.04\00:49:40.38
and everybody have
their own maybe comment.
00:49:40.41\00:49:41.91
I'm saying we're not...
00:49:41.94\00:49:43.28
When I look into
the spiritual mirror
00:49:43.31\00:49:46.35
and I see my face
there, I'm in trouble.
00:49:46.38\00:49:48.78
Yeah.
00:49:48.82\00:49:50.15
See, when I see Jesus
there, I'm not in trouble.
00:49:50.19\00:49:54.09
We following that, in
other words, everybody,
00:49:54.12\00:49:56.83
we're reading all these
things and we're looking,
00:49:56.86\00:49:58.59
I just can't do it.
I can't attain that.
00:49:58.63\00:50:00.50
No, you can't.
00:50:00.53\00:50:02.00
You can't gain victory over
sin in your life on your own.
00:50:02.03\00:50:05.10
You can't get over all
these problems that we have,
00:50:05.13\00:50:06.84
hereditary, cultivated,
whatever it might be.
00:50:06.87\00:50:09.10
We're lost sinners.
00:50:09.14\00:50:11.41
And so we need
outside help, don't we?
00:50:11.44\00:50:14.21
And so what we do, and
when I read this thing,
00:50:14.24\00:50:16.14
and I read some
things I look at,
00:50:16.18\00:50:17.51
I say, oh, Lord,
that's not possible with me.
00:50:17.55\00:50:19.98
And it's like the answer
comes back, it's beautiful.
00:50:20.02\00:50:21.98
It comes back as, no, you can't.
00:50:22.02\00:50:24.22
You know, it's like,
00:50:24.25\00:50:25.59
kind of a good
relationship is no, you can't.
00:50:25.62\00:50:28.62
Lord, I just can't.
00:50:28.66\00:50:30.09
How am I going to gain victory?
00:50:30.13\00:50:31.46
No, you can't,
00:50:31.49\00:50:32.83
but I can help
you gain that victory.
00:50:32.86\00:50:34.46
It's all about Christ.
00:50:34.50\00:50:35.83
That's why we see His face more
and looked at all these things.
00:50:35.86\00:50:39.13
All things are
possible through Christ Jesus.
00:50:39.17\00:50:42.37
What's the blood of the
Lamb that cleanses us from sin,
00:50:42.40\00:50:46.74
and that, that's the
way we get into heaven.
00:50:46.78\00:50:49.21
We don't get into heaven
by following all the precepts.
00:50:49.24\00:50:52.28
Our goal is to follow
them to the best of our ability
00:50:52.31\00:50:55.42
by His grace and power.
00:50:55.45\00:50:57.69
It's strictly through the blood
that we even have a chance.
00:50:57.72\00:51:01.42
It's all about...
00:51:01.46\00:51:02.79
It's all Him. It's Him.
00:51:02.82\00:51:04.16
It's all Him. Good.
00:51:04.19\00:51:05.53
It is a gift. It is a gift.
00:51:05.56\00:51:06.96
Thank you.
00:51:07.00\00:51:08.33
And that opens up the whole...
00:51:08.36\00:51:09.70
But we will act upon faith.
00:51:09.73\00:51:11.20
Yeah. Good.
00:51:11.23\00:51:12.57
I like that. And
that's our deeds.
00:51:12.60\00:51:14.37
Yeah, so.
00:51:14.40\00:51:16.40
That's beautiful.
00:51:16.44\00:51:17.77
I love how you just
blended that because I thought,
00:51:17.81\00:51:19.14
"Boy, that's
another hour study."
00:51:19.17\00:51:21.01
You know, because I can
remember in my early 20s,
00:51:21.04\00:51:24.71
when we just
started having a Bible study
00:51:24.75\00:51:27.45
every Friday evening by the way.
00:51:27.48\00:51:29.45
And I started reading
through the scriptures,
00:51:29.48\00:51:32.02
just really
reading, and all of a sudden,
00:51:32.05\00:51:34.26
I kept seeing this
word obedience, obedience.
00:51:34.29\00:51:37.09
I thought, what in
the world obedience is.
00:51:37.13\00:51:41.03
Hmm. Ouch.
00:51:41.06\00:51:43.06
Most people say ouch.
00:51:43.10\00:51:45.23
You know, but Christ, we just,
you mentioned follow Christ
00:51:45.27\00:51:48.14
and follow in His
footsteps and we'll be fine.
00:51:48.17\00:51:50.64
He was obedient unto death.
00:51:50.67\00:51:53.54
The only reason
He shed that blood
00:51:53.58\00:51:56.38
was because of the law.
00:51:56.41\00:51:58.88
And because of the steps that
we learned from the sanctuary
00:51:58.91\00:52:01.48
that there had to
be blood that was shed
00:52:01.52\00:52:03.45
in order for
forgiveness to be forgiven.
00:52:03.49\00:52:06.09
Yeah.
00:52:06.12\00:52:07.66
So what's the
greatest argument, right,
00:52:07.69\00:52:11.23
that the law of
God is still binding?
00:52:11.26\00:52:13.63
Oh, that Christ
went to the cross.
00:52:13.66\00:52:15.10
That's another Calvary. Calvary.
00:52:15.13\00:52:17.13
Did we get that?
00:52:17.17\00:52:18.50
We need to get that
00:52:18.53\00:52:19.87
if we don't get
anything else out this study.
00:52:19.90\00:52:21.24
The greatest argument
00:52:21.27\00:52:22.60
that the law of God is
still binding is Calvary.
00:52:22.64\00:52:24.91
Why?
00:52:24.94\00:52:26.27
Because of sin, Christ
went there to die in our place.
00:52:26.31\00:52:29.61
Wages of sin is death.
00:52:29.64\00:52:32.85
What is by the law
is the knowledge of sin.
00:52:32.88\00:52:35.42
Does it say, you
know, what law, no.
00:52:35.45\00:52:37.55
Points out what sin is
and drives me to Jesus.
00:52:37.59\00:52:40.69
That's a good point.
00:52:40.72\00:52:42.06
It's kind of on
that idea of knowledge
00:52:42.09\00:52:44.09
know what Tammy was
saying about knowledge is,
00:52:44.13\00:52:46.59
sometimes we can
make knowledge our God
00:52:46.63\00:52:48.80
instead of looking to the Savior
00:52:48.83\00:52:52.30
and, you know, the real God,
we're looking at the knowledge,
00:52:52.33\00:52:55.44
thinking that's gonna save us
00:52:55.47\00:52:56.81
and making that
our God, you know.
00:52:56.84\00:52:58.57
We won't get to
that during this study.
00:52:58.61\00:53:00.98
But I think we'll do
another part on this,
00:53:01.01\00:53:03.51
and that's gonna be talked about
00:53:03.55\00:53:05.45
because there is there a
difference between knowledge
00:53:05.48\00:53:07.88
and, you know,
00:53:07.92\00:53:09.38
knowing the truth,
and loving the truth.
00:53:09.42\00:53:11.79
And I like Tammy's
question again too,
00:53:11.82\00:53:14.22
I think, everybody's kind
of touched on a little bit,
00:53:14.26\00:53:16.96
but really we can do
nothing without Christ.
00:53:16.99\00:53:20.26
The person has
to praise the Lord,
00:53:20.30\00:53:23.00
if this is the way
You want me to walk,
00:53:23.03\00:53:25.03
then strengthen me to walk in.
00:53:25.07\00:53:26.50
Amen.
00:53:26.53\00:53:27.87
And just take...
That's where faith comes in,
00:53:27.90\00:53:30.71
take the step of faith.
00:53:30.74\00:53:32.21
You can't eat the
whole cake at one sitting.
00:53:32.24\00:53:34.68
At least I can't.
00:53:34.71\00:53:36.04
There might be
some people, okay,
00:53:36.08\00:53:37.41
he's always gonna
take the other one.
00:53:37.45\00:53:38.78
There's gonna be some
people that can, I cannot.
00:53:38.81\00:53:41.22
Let's say it's
a huge cake, okay.
00:53:41.25\00:53:45.02
Now there's some huge problems.
00:53:45.05\00:53:46.39
It's just big as this
table. You got a huge appetite.
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I don't know anybody that
can eat one that big, okay.
00:53:49.99\00:53:52.96
Actually that
might be the answer.
00:53:52.99\00:53:55.10
One little bit at a time.
00:53:55.13\00:53:56.90
Yeah, because,
because this person,
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I mean, they know
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that they can do
anything through Christ.
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They know that.
00:54:03.10\00:54:04.44
But, yet, it's
just a constant burden.
00:54:04.47\00:54:07.98
You know, even with this help,
00:54:08.01\00:54:09.64
maybe I'm not
going to get there,
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and I look at this
and I look at that.
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And I always say to
them, it's one step at a time,
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because when you
look at it as a whole
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of where you should
be and where you are,
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it is overwhelming.
00:54:22.09\00:54:23.46
Because you say, oh, you know,
00:54:23.49\00:54:24.83
I'm never gonna, but
that's not how it happens.
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It's a step at a time.
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And remind her as we
will remind everybody else
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that's listening to this story,
it's the enemy, the devil,
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the Bible says is the
accuser of the brethren.
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It is he that brings
about the depression.
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He says, "You see, you
can't live up to all that,
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you can't do all those things.
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Give it up.
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I've been there.
I have been there."
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But, you know the Bible talks
about we can be free from sin,
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right.
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Think about free from sin.
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Let me see the
power of the Holy Spirit,
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He can give us all,
let this mind be in you.
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What does all that mean if
it doesn't mean what it says,
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right?
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That our mind needs to
be, we commit our mind to Him,
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we commit our tongue to
Him, our thoughts to Him,
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and then we react in a way
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that that's the Holy
Spirit gives us that victory.
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I mean, to me,
that's just exciting.
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I don't know about you,
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I don't get
overwhelmed when I read it.
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But I realized I'm far away,
and I'm in need of a Savior.
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And then you reach out for Him.
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And I reach out for Him,
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and I cling to
His feet as it were,
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I cling to the
cross of Calvary, and say,
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"Oh, God, I need
some help, don't leave me.
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I'm in bad shape. Help me."
00:55:26.39\00:55:28.39
And God will always help me.
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Please do that today. Amen.
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Truly, we are pilgrims and
this world is not our home.
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You mentioned
singing in at the end.
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Let's do it again. Tim,
just run over that piano.
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This world is not our home...
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I'm getting excited about
this. Just passing through.
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Sing it along with
us again as we close.
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They know it,
don't they? All right.
00:55:44.81\00:55:47.78
Join in with us, everybody.
00:55:47.81\00:55:50.55
This world is not my home
I'm just a passing through
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My treasures are laid up
Somewhere beyond the blue
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The angels beckon me
From heavens open door
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And I can't feel at
home In this world anymore
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Oh, Lord, you know I
have no friend like you
00:56:14.84\00:56:20.21
If heaven's not my home
Then Lord what will I do
00:56:20.24\00:56:25.85
The angels beckon me
From heaven's open door
00:56:25.88\00:56:31.09
And I can't feel at
home In this world anymore
00:56:31.12\00:56:38.83
They're all expecting me
And that's one thing I know
00:56:38.86\00:56:44.43
My Savior pardon Yes, He
did And now I on would go
00:56:44.47\00:56:50.21
I know He'll take me
through Though I'm weak and poor
00:56:50.24\00:56:55.64
And I can't feel at
home In this world anymore
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You want to pray? Ready.
00:57:00.72\00:57:03.52
Oh, Lord, you know I
have no friend like you
00:57:03.55\00:57:08.89
If heaven's not my home
Then Lord what will I do
00:57:08.92\00:57:14.66
The angels beckon me
From heaven's open door
00:57:14.70\00:57:19.97
And I can't feel at
home In this world anymore
00:57:20.00\00:57:27.61
Just over in
Gloryland We'll live eternally
00:57:27.64\00:57:33.35
The saints on every
hand Are shouting victory
00:57:33.38\00:57:39.05
Their songs of sweetest praise
Drift back from heaven's shore
00:57:39.09\00:57:44.43
And I can't feel at
home In this world anymore
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Now praise the Lord. Amen.
00:57:52.30\00:57:56.20
Halleluiah.
00:57:56.24\00:57:59.11
Amen. Amen.
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