I want to spend my life 00:00:01.36\00:00:07.14 Mending broken people 00:00:07.17\00:00:12.01 I want to spend my life 00:00:12.04\00:00:18.28 Removing pain 00:00:18.31\00:00:23.39 Lord, let my words 00:00:23.42\00:00:29.56 Heal a heart that hurts 00:00:29.59\00:00:34.20 I want to spend my life 00:00:34.23\00:00:39.87 Mending broken people 00:00:39.90\00:00:45.44 I want to spend my life 00:00:45.47\00:00:50.91 Mending broken people 00:00:50.95\00:00:54.88 Hello, and welcome to 3ABN Family Worship. 00:01:09.73\00:01:13.70 We are so glad that you've joined us. 00:01:13.74\00:01:15.54 Now whether you are watching us 00:01:15.57\00:01:16.91 on a Friday evening preparing for the Sabbath 00:01:16.94\00:01:19.07 or a Saturday evening preparing for your busy week, 00:01:19.11\00:01:22.24 we welcome you to the family 00:01:22.28\00:01:24.48 and to this worship experience together. 00:01:24.51\00:01:26.92 We got the gang here. 00:01:26.95\00:01:28.28 We've got Mr. Danny Shelton, Yvonne Lewis, 00:01:28.32\00:01:31.75 to my left Jorge and Lynette Jaque, 00:01:31.79\00:01:35.09 Boo and I am CA. 00:01:35.12\00:01:38.53 So we are all here together. 00:01:38.56\00:01:40.23 I want to ask you guys a question first very quickly. 00:01:40.26\00:01:42.03 Do any of you have favorite things, 00:01:42.06\00:01:44.33 favorite things? 00:01:44.37\00:01:46.57 Favorite, I know you have a favorite chair, 00:01:46.60\00:01:48.44 'cause I have seen you in your favorite chair. 00:01:48.47\00:01:50.11 I know Danny has a favorite chair. 00:01:50.14\00:01:52.47 Yvonne, favorite things, anything favorite? 00:01:52.51\00:01:54.58 Favorite food, favorite dress, favorite... 00:01:54.61\00:01:58.11 That could go for a long time. 00:01:58.15\00:02:01.08 So... 00:02:01.12\00:02:02.45 I have favorite foods. Of course, foods. 00:02:02.48\00:02:05.09 I have to say plural though, 00:02:05.12\00:02:06.55 but I can't just pick one thing. 00:02:06.59\00:02:08.79 And I have favorite texts, you know, Bible texts 00:02:08.82\00:02:11.76 but I can't just pick one. 00:02:11.79\00:02:13.13 Yeah, just one. Yeah. 00:02:13.16\00:02:14.50 Jorge, favorite? 00:02:14.53\00:02:15.86 My lawn mower. 00:02:15.90\00:02:17.23 Your favorite lawn mower. I love it. 00:02:17.27\00:02:20.20 It's good. Boo, favorite anything? 00:02:20.24\00:02:22.17 I think I feel the same as Yvonne, 00:02:22.20\00:02:24.47 I have many things that are favorite 00:02:24.51\00:02:27.64 that I really, can't really say that one. 00:02:27.68\00:02:31.31 He is wanting you to say, your husband, 00:02:31.35\00:02:33.31 that's what he wanted you to say especially for. 00:02:33.35\00:02:35.35 That is first without saying. 00:02:35.38\00:02:37.59 Favorite or only? Amen. 00:02:37.62\00:02:40.42 And the reason I go there is because 00:02:40.46\00:02:42.09 I'm, maybe I'm straight, 00:02:42.12\00:02:43.69 I don't have a favorite anything. 00:02:43.73\00:02:45.13 I don't have a favorite food, I don't have... 00:02:45.16\00:02:47.03 People say, "What's your favorite book in the Bible?" 00:02:47.06\00:02:48.63 I don't have one, I don't have a favorite text. 00:02:48.66\00:02:50.20 You do have a favorite. Well. 00:02:50.23\00:02:51.93 You have a favorite fork, 00:02:51.97\00:02:54.90 that every time I give him another fork. 00:02:54.94\00:02:57.67 Well, it is not my favorite fork, 00:02:57.71\00:02:59.04 it's just that I thought I'll get that fork, 00:02:59.07\00:03:00.41 I don't eat with it. 00:03:00.44\00:03:02.98 But as a rule, I don't have, 00:03:03.01\00:03:05.28 I don't have a favorite anything 00:03:05.31\00:03:06.82 and people say, "What's your favorite text in the Bible?" 00:03:06.85\00:03:08.45 I don't have one. 00:03:08.48\00:03:09.82 What I have is a text that 00:03:09.85\00:03:13.32 I sort of take the light in for a while, 00:03:13.36\00:03:15.36 then I move on to another text. 00:03:15.39\00:03:18.09 And the reason I say that is because 00:03:18.13\00:03:20.30 the text that I'm sort of focused on right now 00:03:20.33\00:03:23.73 is 1 John 1:7. 00:03:23.77\00:03:26.53 Now what's interesting about 1 John from 6 to10, 00:03:26.57\00:03:30.17 those last several verses all begin with the word 'If'. 00:03:30.21\00:03:34.24 But first like 1 John 1:9 is, "If we confess our sins," 00:03:34.28\00:03:37.61 but two verses earlier, 1 John 1:7 begins with 00:03:37.65\00:03:41.62 "but if" and here's what it says, 00:03:41.65\00:03:43.65 "If we walk in the light, as He's in the light, 00:03:43.69\00:03:47.82 we have fellowship one with another 00:03:47.86\00:03:49.99 and the blood of Christ cleanses us from all sins." 00:03:50.03\00:03:53.63 And the reason I bring that up now is because 00:03:53.66\00:03:56.06 that's what family worship is all about. 00:03:56.10\00:03:58.33 It's the first part of that text. 00:03:58.37\00:03:59.70 It's fellowship, one with another. 00:03:59.73\00:04:01.97 And if you're walking in the light 00:04:02.00\00:04:04.51 and others are walking in the light with you, 00:04:04.54\00:04:06.91 you cannot help but have fellowship. 00:04:06.94\00:04:08.84 You know, and many times 00:04:08.88\00:04:10.45 and I think we can all attest to this, that 00:04:10.48\00:04:13.31 when you're walking with someone in Christ, 00:04:13.35\00:04:17.65 they become and can become closer to you 00:04:17.69\00:04:20.16 than your own natural siblings. 00:04:20.19\00:04:21.56 Is that not so when people who are related to you... 00:04:21.59\00:04:23.63 but there is this bond of walking in the same direction 00:04:23.66\00:04:27.36 and so the promise is, if you're walking in the light, 00:04:27.40\00:04:30.23 you're going to have fellowship. 00:04:30.27\00:04:32.43 You know, it's part of the, it's the default setting 00:04:32.47\00:04:34.67 for walking with Jesus. 00:04:34.70\00:04:36.04 You going to have people walking with you, 00:04:36.07\00:04:37.41 walking the same way so that when you fall, 00:04:37.44\00:04:39.27 you got someone to kind of help you up, you know, 00:04:39.31\00:04:41.31 and kind of keep you. 00:04:41.34\00:04:43.11 And then it also said the blood of Christ 00:04:43.14\00:04:44.71 cleanses us from all sins, so that's a great thing. 00:04:44.75\00:04:47.38 So that's what this is all about, 00:04:47.42\00:04:48.75 it's fellowship. 00:04:48.78\00:04:50.39 That's what we're doing. 00:04:50.42\00:04:51.75 And so we're inviting you to fellowship with us. 00:04:51.79\00:04:53.19 Danny, we're going to sing. Okay. 00:04:53.22\00:04:55.09 And our song is, 00:04:55.12\00:04:57.23 "Take the name of Jesus with you." 00:04:57.26\00:04:58.99 And the reason I sort of picked this is because 00:04:59.03\00:05:00.83 we're going to talk about Ellen White. 00:05:00.86\00:05:03.23 Irma and I went through reading the other day 00:05:03.26\00:05:04.90 and she mentioned the value of pain. 00:05:04.93\00:05:08.60 Now when we think about pain, we don't think about value. 00:05:08.64\00:05:10.87 Value and pain are not words 00:05:10.91\00:05:12.24 you kind of put in the same sentence. 00:05:12.27\00:05:14.81 So I've changed a little bit 00:05:14.84\00:05:16.18 and we're calling this gain through pain. 00:05:16.21\00:05:19.31 Okay. Amen. 00:05:19.35\00:05:20.75 Gain through pain, or the sanctity of suffering, 00:05:20.78\00:05:23.18 you can use any one of the three. 00:05:23.22\00:05:25.02 But we're going to talk about gain through pain 00:05:25.05\00:05:27.06 because there is something to be learned 00:05:27.09\00:05:30.63 through suffering. 00:05:30.66\00:05:31.99 Now before we go to song, I want to ask you 00:05:32.03\00:05:33.36 all one quick question. 00:05:33.40\00:05:34.73 What's the better teacher, failure or success? 00:05:34.76\00:05:37.50 Danny, what do you think? 00:05:37.53\00:05:38.90 Well, for me, it's been failure. 00:05:38.93\00:05:42.00 Yeah. Yeah. 00:05:42.04\00:05:43.37 It teaches you success. 00:05:43.41\00:05:44.74 Yeah, it teaches you not to do that again. 00:05:44.77\00:05:47.14 Nothing up. 00:05:47.18\00:05:48.74 I have to agree. Yeah, Boo? 00:05:48.78\00:05:50.11 Yes, same for me. Lynette? 00:05:50.15\00:05:51.48 Well, it has to be failure 'cause failure to me is, 00:05:51.51\00:05:55.12 it's just another opportunity to try again, 00:05:55.15\00:05:58.09 so it's not the end. 00:05:58.12\00:05:59.69 Yeah, yeah. 00:05:59.72\00:06:01.06 I think we learn more, Jorge... 00:06:01.09\00:06:02.42 That's right. Through failure. 00:06:02.46\00:06:03.79 There's somebody said, "Don't take failure as a failure 00:06:03.83\00:06:07.06 but as an opportunity to learn." 00:06:07.10\00:06:08.76 So it has to be failure. 00:06:08.80\00:06:10.77 That's the only way to learn. So we can... 00:06:10.80\00:06:12.43 I'm never anxious to learn through failure. 00:06:12.47\00:06:14.87 Yes, yes. 00:06:14.90\00:06:17.34 And we got to make the best of it, so okay, 00:06:17.37\00:06:19.17 how can we learn from this. 00:06:19.21\00:06:20.54 So you can gain through pain. 00:06:20.58\00:06:23.68 You can learn through suffering, 00:06:23.71\00:06:25.28 you stub on your toe, you know, 00:06:25.31\00:06:27.18 you put your hand on fire and you burn yourself is okay. 00:06:27.22\00:06:29.68 Make note to self, "Do not put hand in fire." 00:06:29.72\00:06:31.75 You know, you're not going to do that again. 00:06:31.79\00:06:33.22 So that's what we're going to talk about today 00:06:33.25\00:06:34.92 and hopefully we'll give you some encouragement 00:06:34.96\00:06:37.23 because the truth is, 00:06:37.26\00:06:39.63 nobody gets a scholarship on suffering. 00:06:39.66\00:06:42.36 Everybody's got to pay their dues 00:06:42.40\00:06:44.10 on the way to the kingdom, we're going to talk about that. 00:06:44.13\00:06:45.97 So let's sing now, it's 474 in your SDA church hymnal 00:06:46.00\00:06:51.01 and it's called "Take the name of Jesus with you." 00:06:51.04\00:06:54.11 We are so happy to have Tim Parton, 00:06:54.14\00:06:56.91 pianist extraordinaire on the piano. 00:06:56.95\00:06:59.95 And, I asked him to play this with a little cayenne. 00:06:59.98\00:07:05.42 And he can do that so very, very well. 00:07:05.45\00:07:07.92 Perhaps better than most people we know. 00:07:07.96\00:07:09.72 Okay. Yeah. 00:07:09.76\00:07:11.09 "Take the name of Jesus with you." 00:07:11.13\00:07:12.46 Tim, let's give away. 00:07:12.49\00:07:13.83 Take the name of Jesus with you 00:07:18.13\00:07:22.70 Child of sorrow and of woe 00:07:22.74\00:07:27.38 It will joy and comfort give you 00:07:27.41\00:07:31.81 Take it then where're you go. 00:07:31.85\00:07:35.85 Precious name! Oh, how sweet! 00:07:35.88\00:07:40.59 Hope of earth and joy of heav'n 00:07:40.62\00:07:45.43 Precious name! Oh, how sweet! 00:07:45.46\00:07:52.40 Hope of earth and joy of heav'n 00:07:52.43\00:07:57.51 Last stanza. 00:07:57.54\00:07:59.21 At the name of Jesus bowing 00:07:59.24\00:08:03.95 Falling prostrate at His feet 00:08:03.98\00:08:08.58 King of kings in heaven we'll crown Him 00:08:08.62\00:08:13.39 When our journey is complete 00:08:13.42\00:08:17.43 Precious name! Oh, how sweet! 00:08:17.46\00:08:22.46 Hope of earth and joy of heav'n 00:08:22.50\00:08:27.20 Precious name! 00:08:27.24\00:08:29.84 Oh, how sweet! 00:08:29.87\00:08:34.64 Hope of earth 00:08:34.68\00:08:36.54 And joy of heav'n 00:08:36.58\00:08:42.35 Amen. And amen. 00:08:42.38\00:08:45.45 Amen, "Take the name of Jesus with you," 00:08:45.49\00:08:49.09 through everything that life has to throw you away. 00:08:49.12\00:08:52.03 It is a wonderful song, 00:08:52.06\00:08:54.00 thank you so very much, Tim Parton. 00:08:54.03\00:08:55.93 We are talking about gain through pain, 00:08:55.96\00:08:58.57 or as Ellen White put it in the morning watch 00:08:58.60\00:09:01.37 that Irma and I read just in the morning, 00:09:01.40\00:09:03.20 the value of pain or the sanctity of suffering, 00:09:03.24\00:09:05.84 take your pick. 00:09:05.87\00:09:07.21 Want to read this, so that 00:09:07.24\00:09:08.58 we can sort of all be on the same page 00:09:08.61\00:09:10.05 and sort of walk together to this 00:09:10.08\00:09:11.71 because we all have experiences that we can draw from this. 00:09:11.75\00:09:16.35 Ellen White says, "In the experience 00:09:16.38\00:09:18.99 of the Apostle John under persecution, 00:09:19.02\00:09:22.16 there is a lesson of wonderful strength 00:09:22.19\00:09:24.59 and comfort for the Christian." 00:09:24.63\00:09:26.59 Of course, John was boiled in oil. 00:09:26.63\00:09:29.26 And then when they couldn't kill him, 00:09:29.30\00:09:30.63 they left him to die on Patmos. 00:09:30.67\00:09:33.03 So he lived to a ripe old age 00:09:33.07\00:09:35.80 but he was steadfast through all of that. 00:09:35.84\00:09:38.97 "God does not prevent the plottings of wicked men." 00:09:39.01\00:09:41.48 We should put a line under that I think. 00:09:41.51\00:09:43.14 Brother Shelton, Boo. 00:09:43.18\00:09:46.21 You don't always stop the plots but look what she says, 00:09:46.25\00:09:50.25 "But He causes their devices to work for good 00:09:50.29\00:09:53.92 to those who in trial and conflict 00:09:53.96\00:09:57.66 maintain their faith and loyalty." 00:09:57.69\00:10:00.03 So there is a call to stay strong, 00:10:00.06\00:10:02.26 even when people are plotting against you. 00:10:02.30\00:10:05.17 "Often the gospel laborer carries on his work 00:10:05.20\00:10:08.84 amid storms of persecution, bitter opposition, 00:10:08.87\00:10:12.77 and unjust reproach. 00:10:12.81\00:10:15.51 At such times let him remember 00:10:15.54\00:10:18.51 that the experience to be gained 00:10:18.55\00:10:20.25 in the furnace of trial and affliction 00:10:20.28\00:10:22.88 is worth all the pain it costs." 00:10:22.92\00:10:25.52 Now that's kind of hard to deal with sometimes 00:10:25.55\00:10:28.29 but it's something we need to hold on to. 00:10:28.32\00:10:31.83 "Thus God brings His children near to Him, 00:10:31.86\00:10:34.80 that He may show them their weakness 00:10:34.83\00:10:37.07 and His strength. 00:10:37.10\00:10:39.97 He teaches them to lean on Him." 00:10:40.00\00:10:42.04 Amen and amen. 00:10:42.07\00:10:43.41 "Thus He prepares them to meet emergencies, 00:10:43.44\00:10:46.11 to fill positions of trust, 00:10:46.14\00:10:48.18 and to accomplish the great purpose 00:10:48.21\00:10:50.25 for which their powers were given them." 00:10:50.28\00:10:52.38 So God gives us all stuff 00:10:52.41\00:10:54.95 that we need to use in His service 00:10:54.98\00:10:57.89 and sometimes that only blossom 00:10:57.92\00:10:59.72 under the fires of affliction. 00:10:59.75\00:11:02.72 "In all ages, God's appointed witnesses 00:11:02.76\00:11:04.79 have exposed themselves to reproach 00:11:04.83\00:11:06.73 and persecution for truth's sake. 00:11:06.76\00:11:09.60 Joseph was maligned and persecuted 00:11:09.63\00:11:12.10 because he preserved his virtue and integrity. 00:11:12.13\00:11:15.17 David, the chosen messenger of God, 00:11:15.20\00:11:17.57 was hunted like a beast of prey by his enemies. 00:11:17.61\00:11:21.41 Daniel was cast into a den of lions 00:11:21.44\00:11:24.21 because he was true to his allegiance to heaven. 00:11:24.25\00:11:27.98 Job was deprived of his worldly possessions, 00:11:28.02\00:11:30.29 and so afflicted in body that he was abhorred 00:11:30.32\00:11:33.56 by his relatives and friends, 00:11:33.59\00:11:35.42 yet he maintained his integrity. 00:11:35.46\00:11:39.19 Jeremiah could not be deterred from speaking the words 00:11:39.23\00:11:42.20 that God had given him to speak, 00:11:42.23\00:11:44.33 and his testimony so enraged the king and princes 00:11:44.37\00:11:48.47 that he was cast into a loathsome pit. 00:11:48.50\00:11:51.77 Stephen was stoned because he preached Christ 00:11:51.81\00:11:54.71 and Him crucified. 00:11:54.74\00:11:56.31 Paul was imprisoned, beaten with cords, 00:11:56.34\00:11:59.48 stoned, and finally put to death because 00:11:59.51\00:12:01.92 he was a faithful messenger for God to the Gentiles. 00:12:01.95\00:12:05.85 And John was banished to the Isle of Patmos 00:12:05.89\00:12:09.32 for the word of God, 00:12:09.36\00:12:10.73 and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. 00:12:10.76\00:12:13.93 These examples of human steadfastness 00:12:13.96\00:12:16.83 bear witness to the faithfulness 00:12:16.87\00:12:18.90 of God's promises 00:12:18.93\00:12:21.04 of His abiding presence and sustaining grace. 00:12:21.07\00:12:24.34 They testify to the power of faith 00:12:24.37\00:12:27.78 to withstand the powers of the world." 00:12:27.81\00:12:30.78 Amen. 00:12:30.81\00:12:32.35 "They bore witness to the power 00:12:32.38\00:12:34.32 of One mightier than Satan. 00:12:34.35\00:12:36.62 Through trial and persecution the glory, 00:12:36.65\00:12:40.06 the character of God is revealed in His chosen ones. 00:12:40.09\00:12:43.99 The believers in Christ, 00:12:44.03\00:12:46.06 hated and persecuted by the world, 00:12:46.09\00:12:48.53 are educated and disciplined in the school of Christ. 00:12:48.56\00:12:52.47 On earth they walk in narrow paths, 00:12:52.50\00:12:55.40 they are purified in the furnace of affliction." 00:12:55.44\00:13:00.71 That's a powerful reading. Yes. 00:13:00.74\00:13:02.34 It's powerful. It's a powerful reading. 00:13:02.38\00:13:04.08 And before I sort of turn to lose, you know, 00:13:04.11\00:13:05.81 in reading Ellen White's history. 00:13:05.85\00:13:07.55 Early on in her ministry, she made a bargain with God. 00:13:07.58\00:13:12.69 She admits that, "When I was younger, 00:13:12.72\00:13:14.36 I was pretty proud and kind of vain 00:13:14.39\00:13:16.83 and the idea that, I got hit with a stone 00:13:16.86\00:13:19.66 and my looks changed 00:13:19.69\00:13:21.03 and it was going to affect me for the rest of my life 00:13:21.06\00:13:23.50 and that I couldn't go back to school 00:13:23.53\00:13:24.90 was a great personal trial to me 00:13:24.93\00:13:28.00 because I had this vain streak in me." 00:13:28.04\00:13:30.44 So she said, "Okay, Lord now that you've called me, 00:13:30.47\00:13:33.11 if I go around telling everybody 00:13:33.14\00:13:35.34 that I am a prophet of God and I have words in the Lord, 00:13:35.38\00:13:38.21 what is going to keep me humble 'cause I know myself, 00:13:38.25\00:13:41.62 what's going to keep my head from getting big?" 00:13:41.65\00:13:45.02 And the Lord said to her, 00:13:45.05\00:13:46.39 "I will make a covenant with you through suffering." 00:13:46.42\00:13:51.06 He said, "If ever this thing that you dread 00:13:51.09\00:13:54.20 begins to rise up in you, 00:13:54.23\00:13:57.13 I will knock it back down through suffering." 00:13:57.17\00:14:00.00 And if you look at, if you look at Ellen White's life, guys, 00:14:00.04\00:14:03.27 she was hit in the nose with a stone 00:14:03.30\00:14:05.84 but if we look at all of the ills and things 00:14:05.87\00:14:08.34 that accrued from that one little pop in the nose, 00:14:08.38\00:14:10.71 it's way beyond what that should have caused, 00:14:10.75\00:14:14.22 but it was an outworking of God's saying, 00:14:14.25\00:14:16.08 "I'm going to keep you humble through suffering. 00:14:16.12\00:14:18.99 And if ever you stray, I'll bring you back. 00:14:19.02\00:14:23.32 That's the covenant we make through suffering. 00:14:23.36\00:14:25.03 So sometimes, the truth is, 00:14:25.06\00:14:27.53 suffering will do for us what success fails to do, 00:14:27.56\00:14:31.30 sometimes God's got to turn up the heat a little bit. 00:14:31.33\00:14:33.94 And Ellen White says, "The pastors, 00:14:33.97\00:14:35.44 every now again they to need to..." 00:14:35.47\00:14:36.84 You know, I preaches every Sabbath 00:14:36.87\00:14:38.24 but sometimes you got to turn the heat up more. 00:14:38.27\00:14:39.81 "Hold them over the flame, you know, 00:14:39.84\00:14:41.51 let them feel the heat, 00:14:41.54\00:14:44.28 so that they know and understand. 00:14:44.31\00:14:46.38 And yet the flame doesn't come to burn us up, 00:14:46.41\00:14:49.78 it comes to make us stronger in the Lord." 00:14:49.82\00:14:52.95 Anybody want to weigh on this? 00:14:52.99\00:14:54.32 I remember that she has said also that, 00:14:54.36\00:14:58.06 "The Lord will allow us to come to a place 00:14:58.09\00:15:01.46 where He can mould us, you know, change us. 00:15:01.50\00:15:05.83 But if we don't yield, He will, you know, calm us down 00:15:05.87\00:15:12.61 but he will bring us back again. 00:15:12.64\00:15:15.28 Until we're able to learn and that to me 00:15:15.31\00:15:17.78 is the refining process 00:15:17.81\00:15:20.32 that the Lord gives us something to help us. 00:15:20.35\00:15:23.25 Oh, go ahead. 00:15:23.28\00:15:25.45 In the physical part, we are the physical part 00:15:25.49\00:15:28.96 and the spiritual burden, but persecution, whether that, 00:15:28.99\00:15:33.73 whatever form that would be, it's good for the pride too 00:15:33.76\00:15:37.73 because what you tend to do if you feel that 00:15:37.77\00:15:40.64 you are unjustly persecuted. 00:15:40.67\00:15:43.27 Let's say, people are talking about you, 00:15:43.30\00:15:45.07 they are spreading rumors about you. 00:15:45.11\00:15:47.18 It's really your pride that makes you want to stand, 00:15:47.21\00:15:49.91 I've been there to stand up and say, "That is not true." 00:15:49.94\00:15:52.98 Now why am I really caring about that? 00:15:53.01\00:15:55.48 Am I caring about that 00:15:55.52\00:15:56.85 'cause I want people to think good about me, 00:15:56.89\00:15:58.85 or do I care about that 'cause I don't want it 00:15:58.89\00:16:01.09 to be something that looks bad on the Christianity, 00:16:01.12\00:16:04.79 and the church, and all of that, 00:16:04.83\00:16:06.53 what's my purpose. 00:16:06.56\00:16:07.90 But biting your tongue, you know, 00:16:07.93\00:16:10.30 there's time that you have to bite your tongue, 00:16:10.33\00:16:12.00 and it really don't, 00:16:12.03\00:16:13.37 that's not been easy for me in my life 00:16:13.40\00:16:14.84 because things happen, I'm very... 00:16:14.87\00:16:17.04 Somebody might tell you, I'm a little outspoken 00:16:17.07\00:16:18.74 very out... 00:16:18.77\00:16:20.11 No. 00:16:20.14\00:16:21.48 No. Yeah, little outspoken. 00:16:21.51\00:16:22.98 So I tend to wanted to defend myself 00:16:23.01\00:16:26.35 but I'm learning after all these years, 00:16:26.38\00:16:28.48 finally, there are times that I say, you know what? 00:16:28.52\00:16:31.49 I'm just gonna let them say what they want to say. 00:16:31.52\00:16:33.92 Ezekiel 14:14, I think, it is or, 00:16:33.96\00:16:36.52 yeah Exodus 14:14 says, 00:16:36.56\00:16:38.33 "The Lord will fight your battles." 00:16:38.36\00:16:39.89 So I'm learning to do that, I haven't conquered it yet 00:16:39.93\00:16:42.63 but it's good for persecution, really purifies you. 00:16:42.66\00:16:47.24 That's right. It does, it does. 00:16:47.27\00:16:49.10 You know, I don't want to be the only one talking, 00:16:49.14\00:16:51.24 but that really is been in my life too. 00:16:51.27\00:16:55.04 That it was at time that I never imagined 00:16:55.08\00:16:58.21 that I was proud that I had pride, you know, 00:16:58.25\00:17:01.28 I always thought that I was very accommodating and humble, 00:17:01.32\00:17:05.15 and not until I had an experience, 00:17:05.19\00:17:07.76 and the Lord told me that if you are so concerned 00:17:07.79\00:17:11.59 about what they say what do they... 00:17:11.63\00:17:13.70 It must be pride in you, and I was like, "Oh!" 00:17:13.73\00:17:18.13 So, but that changed my look, and things, and other people. 00:17:18.17\00:17:24.71 When we go through these really hard times 00:17:24.74\00:17:29.28 that's when we learn about who we are 00:17:29.31\00:17:33.35 and we learn who God is because He is the one 00:17:33.38\00:17:37.05 that sustains us through it, 00:17:37.09\00:17:38.49 and it's through that process that you really... 00:17:38.52\00:17:44.33 It either drives you closer to God 00:17:44.36\00:17:47.16 or pulls you away from Him. 00:17:47.20\00:17:49.26 I think, you know, some people get angry 00:17:49.30\00:17:52.20 and rebellious when they go through 00:17:52.23\00:17:55.20 a time of persecution, 00:17:55.24\00:17:56.91 but others find their strength in clinging to God 00:17:56.94\00:18:01.04 and when they do, that refines their character, 00:18:01.08\00:18:04.11 that helps them grow to the next level. 00:18:04.15\00:18:06.92 And I just think there's so many people 00:18:06.95\00:18:09.55 that are dealing with persecution, 00:18:09.58\00:18:11.99 like, I've really been... 00:18:12.02\00:18:14.62 The Lord's been leading me to read books 00:18:14.66\00:18:16.93 about persecuted Christians in other parts of the world. 00:18:16.96\00:18:21.03 And the things that they go through 00:18:21.06\00:18:24.43 are unbelievable. 00:18:24.47\00:18:25.93 For us, you know, sometimes we consider, 00:18:25.97\00:18:29.34 we might call it like a persecution 00:18:29.37\00:18:31.54 but it's just an inconvenience. 00:18:31.57\00:18:32.91 You know what I'm saying, you know. 00:18:32.94\00:18:34.28 Yeah, really. 00:18:34.31\00:18:35.64 It's not persecution. Very true... 00:18:35.68\00:18:37.01 No, it's not persecution. 00:18:37.05\00:18:38.38 But this is real persecution 00:18:38.41\00:18:40.08 where people are losing their lives 00:18:40.12\00:18:43.08 because they stand up for Christ. 00:18:43.12\00:18:45.39 You know, if you say, well, God this or God that, 00:18:45.42\00:18:48.32 people aren't really that, they'll let you go with that, 00:18:48.36\00:18:51.89 but if you say Jesus Christ, 00:18:51.93\00:18:53.80 once you stand on Jesus Christ, 00:18:53.83\00:18:57.50 then that just raises all kinds of issues 00:18:57.53\00:19:01.50 and people around the world are being persecuted 00:19:01.54\00:19:04.44 for Christ, and it's appalling to me 00:19:04.47\00:19:07.58 what they are going through. 00:19:07.61\00:19:09.44 Yes. 00:19:09.48\00:19:10.91 You know, I think one of the things 00:19:10.95\00:19:12.28 we have to do is keep it in prospective. 00:19:12.31\00:19:16.18 John 16:33, "In the world you shall have tribulation." 00:19:16.22\00:19:20.72 Nobody gets a path on that, that's everybody, 00:19:20.76\00:19:23.09 and particularly, if you are standing for the Lord, 00:19:23.12\00:19:25.63 and, particularly if you are in some manner of leadership 00:19:25.66\00:19:29.13 for the Lord, you will become a target. 00:19:29.16\00:19:31.07 And when you say, 00:19:31.10\00:19:33.13 "I have decided to follow Jesus," 00:19:33.17\00:19:36.20 the devil says, "I have decided 00:19:36.24\00:19:38.37 you are not gonna follow Jesus." 00:19:38.41\00:19:40.21 So the battle begins, 00:19:40.24\00:19:42.08 and that battle rages until you give up on Christ 00:19:42.11\00:19:45.31 or till the day you die. 00:19:45.35\00:19:46.68 And you get no vacation, no time off, no sick time, 00:19:46.72\00:19:49.28 no comp time, always fighting, you know, for the Lord, 00:19:49.32\00:19:53.56 and she says it here, 00:19:53.59\00:19:56.02 "Your desire to serve the Lord is gonna be tested." 00:19:56.06\00:20:00.33 It's gonna be tested. 00:20:00.36\00:20:01.70 And we've touched on this, 00:20:01.73\00:20:03.20 the idea that a lot of it is just pride, 00:20:03.23\00:20:07.94 you know, they did it to me, you know, it's pride and, 00:20:07.97\00:20:13.78 you know, Ellen White says about pride, 00:20:13.81\00:20:15.61 she says, "One, it's the hardest to diagnose." 00:20:15.64\00:20:20.22 So most who have it, don't know they have it. 00:20:20.25\00:20:24.62 Almost impossible to cure, 00:20:24.65\00:20:26.62 so the chemotherapy to get rid of it 00:20:26.65\00:20:30.36 is really, really tough, 00:20:30.39\00:20:32.06 and she says the whole church has it. 00:20:32.09\00:20:34.13 So that's about it, everybody's got it 00:20:34.16\00:20:36.60 whether you think you have it or not, you do. 00:20:36.63\00:20:38.77 And sometimes the Lord has to put you in situations 00:20:38.80\00:20:41.44 to show you that because you don't think you... 00:20:41.47\00:20:43.84 That's right. Like Irma said," Me, pride? 00:20:43.87\00:20:46.24 I'm so humble." 00:20:46.27\00:20:47.61 I've heard people say, "I'm humble, 00:20:47.64\00:20:49.08 I'm humble, I'm proud of my humility." 00:20:49.11\00:20:51.65 You know, I'm humble. I'm proud of my humility. 00:20:51.68\00:20:54.42 I'm so proud of my humility. 00:20:54.45\00:20:55.78 You know, Lord has to show you, no, you ain't humble. 00:20:55.82\00:20:59.59 You are not humble. So things are gonna come. 00:20:59.62\00:21:02.46 When you began this ministry, 00:21:02.49\00:21:03.83 it wasn't a sail through for you 00:21:03.86\00:21:06.43 'cause the devil said, "You are not doing that." 00:21:06.46\00:21:09.06 And I will send people, 00:21:09.10\00:21:10.43 and sometimes in your own household, 00:21:10.47\00:21:11.80 or, you know, or, sitting in a pew next to you, 00:21:11.83\00:21:15.44 or sleeping in the same bed with you. 00:21:15.47\00:21:16.97 You know, you don't know, it's gonna come, 00:21:17.01\00:21:19.07 he will use anybody at anytime, 00:21:19.11\00:21:20.68 anywhere to try to discourage you 00:21:20.71\00:21:22.54 if he knows you are trying to serve your Lord. 00:21:22.58\00:21:23.91 That's true. Yeah. 00:21:23.95\00:21:25.88 It's interesting, you have mentioned it, 00:21:25.91\00:21:28.42 that pride that we sometimes is attacked, 00:21:28.45\00:21:32.65 is under attack, and then we react 00:21:32.69\00:21:34.62 because we think, okay, we don't deserve this 00:21:34.66\00:21:36.86 or the other thing. 00:21:36.89\00:21:38.99 I grew up in a home where my parents were missionaries, 00:21:39.03\00:21:44.10 and then, but the first few years of my life 00:21:44.13\00:21:48.10 I went to Adventist Christian school 00:21:48.14\00:21:51.04 in a very safe, secure environment 00:21:51.07\00:21:55.41 until they moved to this little town 00:21:55.44\00:22:00.05 where everybody was bit, 00:22:00.08\00:22:03.59 belonged to a different denomination, very popular, 00:22:03.62\00:22:08.42 and we were the only little Christians, 00:22:08.46\00:22:12.06 Adventist Christians in a little church, 00:22:12.09\00:22:14.86 two blocks away from that downtown. 00:22:14.90\00:22:18.53 So they will see me coming outside of my house 00:22:18.57\00:22:22.50 was the church at the same time so we share that. 00:22:22.54\00:22:26.74 So I'll go through my first day of the school 00:22:26.78\00:22:29.71 and everybody look, 00:22:29.74\00:22:31.08 "Oh, you are the one who live in that church." 00:22:31.11\00:22:34.15 And the persecution started but at that level nothing, 00:22:34.18\00:22:39.09 nothing like the people in the Bible. 00:22:39.12\00:22:43.09 So I never had to experience that kind of persecution, 00:22:43.12\00:22:45.36 but these type of persecution is also a test, and you think, 00:22:45.39\00:22:51.40 "Okay, why me? 00:22:51.43\00:22:53.13 Why they have to make fun of me?" 00:22:53.17\00:22:56.04 And you question yourself being a little kid, 00:22:56.07\00:22:59.14 and you don't know any better but you go to new house, 00:22:59.17\00:23:02.34 and they say, and they first thing, 00:23:02.38\00:23:03.71 sometimes it came to my mind, I hope my big brother is here 00:23:03.75\00:23:06.78 so he can teach them a lesson. 00:23:06.82\00:23:09.95 Of course, that was my thinking, 00:23:09.98\00:23:12.89 but now I think, okay, God was teaching me something. 00:23:12.92\00:23:16.32 And humility, you know, you sometimes have to, 00:23:16.36\00:23:19.46 and later on in my life, 00:23:19.49\00:23:20.96 I had to understand in a different way, 00:23:21.00\00:23:22.76 in different situations 00:23:22.80\00:23:24.83 but that was my little encounter with persecution 00:23:24.87\00:23:29.87 that it taught me a big lesson. 00:23:29.90\00:23:32.54 It's something, the Bible says, rather the lesson says, 00:23:35.84\00:23:40.42 "God does not prevent the plottings of wicked men, 00:23:40.45\00:23:44.22 but he causes their devices to work for good 00:23:44.25\00:23:48.22 to those who in trial, and conflict, 00:23:48.26\00:23:50.09 maintain their faith and loyalty." 00:23:50.13\00:23:52.16 You wish, you almost wish God would sometimes. 00:23:52.19\00:23:55.90 You know, but He doesn't always stop their plots. 00:23:55.93\00:24:00.04 He lets their plots go on, but if we hold on to Him, 00:24:00.07\00:24:03.30 He will turn those plots around for our good. 00:24:03.34\00:24:06.61 Yes. And that's the promise. 00:24:06.64\00:24:08.61 And what I like about that is the fact that 00:24:08.64\00:24:11.08 I don't have to lay awake at night 00:24:11.11\00:24:12.88 trying to think of revenge against people 00:24:12.91\00:24:14.52 who do stuff to me, you know, 'cause God's gonna take, 00:24:14.55\00:24:17.62 God's gonna take care of those, I think. 00:24:17.65\00:24:19.19 How can I get back at him, and how can I get back at them, 00:24:19.22\00:24:21.96 I'm gonna do this to brethren, I must not do that 00:24:21.99\00:24:23.66 because God is gonna take that 00:24:23.69\00:24:25.03 and He is gonna fight my battles for me. 00:24:25.06\00:24:26.39 That's right. 00:24:26.43\00:24:27.76 I don't know why we fight it about the persecution, 00:24:27.80\00:24:32.93 here, speaking of pride, 00:24:32.97\00:24:34.30 it's hard for me to put glasses on like this just to wear. 00:24:34.34\00:24:37.24 Never had to wear them but second... 00:24:37.27\00:24:38.61 We all are wearing them though. 00:24:38.64\00:24:39.97 Second, I noticed that and that help me a little bit. 00:24:40.01\00:24:42.18 2 Timothy 3:12 says, 00:24:42.21\00:24:45.78 "Yes, and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus 00:24:45.81\00:24:49.58 shall suffer persecution." 00:24:49.62\00:24:51.25 So they didn't say some, it says all who live godly 00:24:51.29\00:24:55.42 but evil men," as you said, "and imposters will go worse 00:24:55.46\00:24:58.36 and worse, deceiving and being deceived 00:24:58.39\00:25:01.03 but you must continue in the things 00:25:01.06\00:25:02.96 which you have learnt and been assured of, 00:25:03.00\00:25:05.27 knowing from whom you have learned them. 00:25:05.30\00:25:08.70 And so it talks about from his childhood, 00:25:08.74\00:25:11.27 the scriptures that we learned. 00:25:11.31\00:25:12.97 The thing that bothers me the most about persecution 00:25:13.01\00:25:17.98 is what it does to the members of the church, 00:25:18.01\00:25:21.85 the body of Christ. 00:25:21.88\00:25:23.82 For instance, and this goes without fail 00:25:23.85\00:25:27.06 so I have my own story, you have your story, 00:25:27.09\00:25:29.92 and each of you have your story, 00:25:29.96\00:25:32.39 but for people anytime you step out to do something, 00:25:32.43\00:25:37.23 there are gonna be naysayers, there are gonna be people who, 00:25:37.27\00:25:40.40 "Well, he has no business doing this, 00:25:40.44\00:25:42.84 or he shouldn't do that." 00:25:42.87\00:25:44.21 Well, my brothers and I, we got used to this in early years, 00:25:44.24\00:25:47.44 it's been 33 years. 00:25:47.48\00:25:49.18 So I really don't mind, 00:25:49.21\00:25:51.05 I've had books written about me, 00:25:51.08\00:25:52.41 I mean, this is amazing, I've had things said and done. 00:25:52.45\00:25:55.45 And sometimes, you know, nobody is perfect, 00:25:55.48\00:25:57.95 some of it what you read may be true, 00:25:57.99\00:25:59.79 some of it may be a lie. 00:25:59.82\00:26:01.72 But what I see the devil does with it 00:26:01.76\00:26:06.06 is that people tend, 00:26:06.09\00:26:09.26 church members tend to believe what they hear, somebody said, 00:26:09.30\00:26:13.00 "Oh, did you know that CA. 00:26:13.03\00:26:14.70 I heard that CA this happened." 00:26:14.74\00:26:16.94 And what do we do? 00:26:16.97\00:26:18.41 Oh, CA, shame on him, that is terrible, 00:26:18.44\00:26:20.98 I'm so disappointed in you, 00:26:21.01\00:26:22.81 I don't know how the Lord even use you CA, you do, 00:26:22.84\00:26:25.71 you know, so what I find out, persecution is much worse 00:26:25.75\00:26:29.92 when it comes from within 00:26:29.95\00:26:31.89 than when it comes from without because, frankly, 00:26:31.92\00:26:34.69 you don't care about what the atheist says about you, 00:26:34.72\00:26:36.56 you don't care about what people on the outside say, 00:26:36.59\00:26:40.33 but inside the church, I've learned, even personally, 00:26:40.36\00:26:43.57 that doesn't bother me. 00:26:43.60\00:26:44.93 I can promise you this, 00:26:44.97\00:26:46.30 and I look in the camera and say, 00:26:46.33\00:26:47.67 I don't ever remember losing the night sleep 00:26:47.70\00:26:49.67 worrying about what you all thought about me. 00:26:49.70\00:26:52.01 Good or bad, 'cause it's not about me, 00:26:52.04\00:26:54.01 it's about the gospel, 00:26:54.04\00:26:55.38 and it's about getting the three angels' messages 00:26:55.41\00:26:57.65 to the world. 00:26:57.68\00:26:59.01 Everybody likes to be liked, we all want to be loved, 00:26:59.05\00:27:01.98 but when you are in a fish bowl, 00:27:02.02\00:27:04.19 people gonna be looking at you, 00:27:04.22\00:27:06.05 and be throwing things in the fish bowl 00:27:06.09\00:27:07.49 and doing this. 00:27:07.52\00:27:08.86 So that comes with the territory, 00:27:08.89\00:27:10.56 but where to me, 00:27:10.59\00:27:12.13 where the tough part of it is not the personal persecution, 00:27:12.16\00:27:16.67 but the division. 00:27:16.70\00:27:18.27 Satan can use this to divide the church. 00:27:18.30\00:27:21.60 So if we're so busy 00:27:21.64\00:27:23.47 I'm wondering and looking at Jorge, 00:27:23.51\00:27:25.47 I don't know about him, should he be in leadership? 00:27:25.51\00:27:28.11 'Cause I heard that he did this or that. 00:27:28.14\00:27:30.85 So then I tell someone else, and they tell someone else, 00:27:30.88\00:27:33.42 then it gets worse, and worse, and worse. 00:27:33.45\00:27:35.38 You played those games, I'm sure all of you here 00:27:35.42\00:27:37.52 when you were a kid, and we do it sometimes... 00:27:37.55\00:27:39.85 Gossip? 00:27:39.89\00:27:41.22 Yeah, gossip games and you start, you tell this, 00:27:41.26\00:27:43.93 when the time it goes around 15 people, 00:27:43.96\00:27:46.80 it's totally different. 00:27:46.83\00:27:48.70 So my thing is that I'm not sure 00:27:48.73\00:27:52.20 why we want to question. 00:27:52.23\00:27:54.27 Other words, people who are in leadership, 00:27:54.30\00:27:56.77 every time somebody accuses them 00:27:56.81\00:27:58.61 of something then we say, "Oh, this is terrible. 00:27:58.64\00:28:01.11 Well, I'm not gonna support them, 00:28:01.14\00:28:02.64 or I'm not gonna support this ministry anymore." 00:28:02.68\00:28:05.35 Rather than to say, well, you know what? 00:28:05.38\00:28:07.22 I would be shocked if they weren't being persecuted, 00:28:07.25\00:28:10.69 I would be shocked if there were no allegations 00:28:10.72\00:28:13.42 about anybody in leadership because this says, 00:28:13.46\00:28:16.46 "All who live godly shall suffer persecution." 00:28:16.49\00:28:21.00 So for those of you at home, if you are stepping out, 00:28:21.03\00:28:24.67 doing something, don't be discouraged, 00:28:24.70\00:28:26.74 you actually, should be encouraged. 00:28:26.77\00:28:29.27 One time, Mei Chung, who I think is one of the, 00:28:29.30\00:28:34.28 probably, if I could count on one hand, 00:28:34.31\00:28:36.31 people that's influenced my life the most 00:28:36.34\00:28:39.01 in 60 plus years would be Mei Chung. 00:28:39.05\00:28:42.88 What a wonderful Christian example, but one day, 00:28:42.92\00:28:45.55 years ago, I was really coming down, 00:28:45.59\00:28:48.02 and I can't believe this is what's happening, 00:28:48.06\00:28:50.73 and this is within church, 00:28:50.76\00:28:52.09 and they are saying this about 3ABN, 00:28:52.13\00:28:54.13 they are not supporting this, 00:28:54.16\00:28:55.76 they've done this to us, and this happened to us, 00:28:55.80\00:28:58.77 and she was listening very intently as Mei would, 00:28:58.80\00:29:02.04 and she's always like "Oh, aha, aha, oh, yes." 00:29:02.07\00:29:07.18 She's very sympathetic then she said, 00:29:07.21\00:29:09.78 "Oh, I wish that, 00:29:09.81\00:29:12.48 I'm gonna pray that my life will be a little different 00:29:12.51\00:29:15.38 'cause I want to serve for the Jesus' persecution too." 00:29:15.42\00:29:18.85 Wow. And I looked at her, and I said, "What?" 00:29:18.89\00:29:20.89 She goes, "I'm not being persecuted enough. 00:29:20.92\00:29:24.39 How blessed you are. 00:29:24.43\00:29:25.93 You should be thanking the Lord that you are being persecuted 00:29:25.96\00:29:30.30 'cause it should tell you, hey, I am on the right track." 00:29:30.33\00:29:33.54 So she says, "I'm gonna pray 00:29:33.57\00:29:35.40 that God will give me more persecution in my life." 00:29:35.44\00:29:38.91 But when we look at it. 00:29:38.94\00:29:40.41 So my thing is, what the devil is doing with this 00:29:40.44\00:29:44.31 is to try to divide the church. 00:29:44.35\00:29:47.38 We know it's the house divided against itself can't stand. 00:29:47.42\00:29:50.92 God is coming back for a purified bride, 00:29:50.95\00:29:53.29 purified church, purified people, 00:29:53.32\00:29:55.72 and so if we are so busy persecuting each other, 00:29:55.76\00:30:00.76 I don't like what was said about me. 00:30:00.80\00:30:02.76 Irma, I did not like what you said 00:30:02.80\00:30:04.33 so I'm gonna tell Yvonne something about you, 00:30:04.37\00:30:06.87 and she is the so upset, she tells, you know, 00:30:06.90\00:30:09.64 and it goes around the horn, and we are so busy, 00:30:09.67\00:30:12.51 we lose our focus in taking the gospel to the world. 00:30:12.54\00:30:15.21 So if the devil's beaten you up, 00:30:15.24\00:30:17.81 so to speak, it's okay, don't worry about it 00:30:17.85\00:30:20.18 because it's not what happens in this life, 00:30:20.22\00:30:22.92 and so, I'm learning that after all these years, 00:30:22.95\00:30:25.92 I'm learning it, you still get concerned about it. 00:30:25.95\00:30:29.46 My thing is, I just hate to see something people are saying 00:30:29.49\00:30:32.93 that hurts the ministry, 00:30:32.96\00:30:34.40 or would cause people not to support the ministry. 00:30:34.43\00:30:37.37 But persecution, it's gonna come no matter what, 00:30:37.40\00:30:40.50 no matter what you are doing, anytime you step out, 00:30:40.54\00:30:42.44 and do something. 00:30:42.47\00:30:43.81 So now that's very biblical don't be discouraged, 00:30:43.84\00:30:45.94 be encouraged that "Hey, guess what, 00:30:45.97\00:30:48.38 I've had an opportunity 00:30:48.41\00:30:49.98 to get suffer a little bit of the Jesus' treatment" 00:30:50.01\00:30:52.28 as they would say. 00:30:52.31\00:30:53.65 Yes, yes. 00:30:53.68\00:30:55.02 Well, you know, I'm leaning more and more 00:30:55.05\00:30:56.72 than when we said keep your eyes upon Jesus. 00:30:56.75\00:31:01.99 We take it so lightly, I think, 00:31:02.02\00:31:05.73 you know, it, we understand the words, 00:31:05.76\00:31:08.56 but we don't take it really to heart. 00:31:08.60\00:31:11.73 And studying, I love the Book of Romans, 00:31:11.77\00:31:16.24 and as we are studying more and more, 00:31:16.27\00:31:18.47 and learning that, you know, is God, 00:31:18.51\00:31:22.31 you got to keep your eyes on who God is. 00:31:22.34\00:31:26.98 And, and when you do that, 00:31:27.02\00:31:29.42 it's really amazing 00:31:29.45\00:31:30.92 how many things that start just looking different, 00:31:30.95\00:31:36.06 and how much you are able to actually live 00:31:36.09\00:31:43.00 what God wants for your life, 00:31:43.03\00:31:44.60 and then you start seeing more things wrong with you, 00:31:44.63\00:31:49.14 but then you have that assurance 00:31:49.17\00:31:52.54 the more you look at Christ because, like you said Danny, 00:31:52.57\00:31:57.31 we look at the church, I hear it all the time, 00:31:57.35\00:32:00.42 people all, you know, the church, 00:32:00.45\00:32:02.65 and the people in the church, and they do this, 00:32:02.68\00:32:05.02 and say that and all that, 00:32:05.05\00:32:06.69 all that wrong things with it, and then that is. 00:32:06.72\00:32:10.26 We can't say that isn't, 00:32:10.29\00:32:12.63 but it's like, if we as personally, 00:32:12.66\00:32:16.60 we keep our eyes on God, who is God and he, 00:32:16.63\00:32:19.73 well, that is happening, 00:32:19.77\00:32:21.57 but this is what God wants you to be. 00:32:21.60\00:32:23.84 This is what He wants you to do, 00:32:23.87\00:32:25.74 and then as we let ourselves, God to guide us, 00:32:25.77\00:32:31.01 to make us, we'll see how God keeps working in. 00:32:31.05\00:32:35.68 We're getting crushed because it's, wow! 00:32:35.72\00:32:38.22 God is changing my thinking, 00:32:38.25\00:32:40.46 and then that's what we want for Him. 00:32:40.49\00:32:43.69 Well, the Book of Job is always been, 00:32:43.73\00:32:49.50 has always been, been an inspiration for me 00:32:49.53\00:32:53.00 to where I was thinking about one of you were saying, 00:32:53.03\00:32:56.27 Danny, that he was counseled by three church members. 00:32:56.30\00:33:01.54 They came to talk to him. 00:33:01.58\00:33:03.91 And seriously, they were trying to find out 00:33:03.95\00:33:07.12 what was wrong with him. 00:33:07.15\00:33:09.32 The problem with it 00:33:09.35\00:33:10.69 they thought he was totally in the wrong, 00:33:10.72\00:33:13.15 and he was not, not opening in his eyes to the reality 00:33:13.19\00:33:17.93 that he was a sinner, that he had, 00:33:17.96\00:33:20.30 probably, he did something wrong. 00:33:20.33\00:33:21.93 And that is the reason why he was being punished. 00:33:21.96\00:33:25.50 In the chapter 19 of that book is so powerful 00:33:25.53\00:33:29.34 because he reacts finally after all these beatings. 00:33:29.37\00:33:33.27 One day after the other, and chapter 19 says, 00:33:33.31\00:33:36.95 "Job answered and said, 00:33:36.98\00:33:38.48 'How long will you torment my soul. 00:33:38.51\00:33:41.85 And break me in pieces with words?' 00:33:41.88\00:33:44.99 " So it's true, it's a fact, 00:33:45.02\00:33:48.49 and is really sometimes we think, "Why me?" 00:33:48.52\00:33:51.53 You know, he had a reason to say he didn't know. 00:33:51.56\00:33:55.46 I didn't do anything, he keep saying, 00:33:55.50\00:33:57.13 I didn't do anything wrong, 00:33:57.17\00:33:59.30 why this is happening to me, but in verse 25, 00:33:59.33\00:34:03.84 he, this is probably the best verse in the whole, 00:34:03.87\00:34:07.78 my favorite verse, 00:34:07.81\00:34:09.34 the best Bible verse in the whole Book of Job also. 00:34:09.38\00:34:14.25 It says, "For I know that my Redeemer lives, 00:34:14.28\00:34:19.79 And He shall stand at last," In other version it says, 00:34:19.82\00:34:23.53 "That's the last day on the earth." 00:34:23.56\00:34:27.80 So I know that my Redeemer lives 00:34:27.83\00:34:30.77 that's all that matters to me. 00:34:30.80\00:34:33.13 Amen. Amen. 00:34:33.17\00:34:34.50 Good example. 00:34:34.54\00:34:35.87 You know, one of the things when we are suffering, 00:34:35.90\00:34:37.97 particularly, at the hands of others, 00:34:38.01\00:34:39.37 one of the things we should do 00:34:39.41\00:34:40.94 and I mentioned it the other day. 00:34:40.98\00:34:43.04 Anytime you are going through stuff, 00:34:43.08\00:34:46.51 it's not only a call, 00:34:46.55\00:34:47.98 it's a demand for self examination. 00:34:48.02\00:34:50.09 You know. 00:34:50.12\00:34:51.45 Paul says to the church of Galatia, 00:34:51.49\00:34:52.82 "Let a man, but let a man examine himself." 00:34:52.85\00:34:55.02 If I've got odd with you, 00:34:55.06\00:34:57.53 I really need to look at myself first 00:34:57.56\00:35:00.03 and make sure my hands are clean before I begin to, 00:35:00.06\00:35:03.67 you know, look at what I think is wrong with you. 00:35:03.70\00:35:06.33 In 1 Peter 4, verse, let's pick it up, 14, 00:35:06.37\00:35:13.21 "If you are reproached for the name of Christ, 00:35:13.24\00:35:16.85 blessed are you..." 00:35:16.88\00:35:18.65 You know, that's tough to swallow, 00:35:18.68\00:35:20.85 but it's the truth. 00:35:20.88\00:35:22.22 "If you are reproached for the name of Christ, 00:35:22.25\00:35:24.59 blessed are you for the Spirit of glory 00:35:24.62\00:35:29.12 and of God rests upon you, 00:35:29.16\00:35:32.23 on their part he is blasphemed, on your part he is glorified." 00:35:32.26\00:35:37.83 So if you are standing up for the Lord 00:35:37.87\00:35:39.83 and your hands are clean 00:35:39.87\00:35:41.50 even though you don't like being in the fire, 00:35:41.54\00:35:44.14 blessed are you 00:35:44.17\00:35:45.51 because there was a thing back in Christ time 00:35:45.54\00:35:47.11 that if you're suffering, 00:35:47.14\00:35:48.48 it's because there's something wrong with you. 00:35:48.51\00:35:49.84 Right. You deserve it. 00:35:49.88\00:35:51.21 What'd you do? Yes. 00:35:51.25\00:35:52.58 They did the test, I saw on TV one night, 00:35:52.61\00:35:53.95 I couldn't sleep, I woke up, and they did a test. 00:35:53.98\00:35:55.38 They put a man in the suit on the ground, 00:35:55.42\00:35:58.05 lying on the ground, just face down on the ground, 00:35:58.09\00:36:00.82 and people were rushing to help him just immediately. 00:36:00.86\00:36:05.26 They changed one thing, 00:36:05.29\00:36:06.63 they put that same man on the ground in a suit, 00:36:06.66\00:36:09.66 and they put a bottle, 00:36:09.70\00:36:11.03 a paper bag with a bottle next to him, 00:36:11.07\00:36:14.34 you know, a little bottle, 00:36:14.37\00:36:15.70 a little wine bottle, nobody bothered to help him. 00:36:15.74\00:36:19.84 And they said what was the difference. 00:36:19.87\00:36:21.34 That bag... 00:36:21.38\00:36:22.71 Yeah. 00:36:22.74\00:36:24.08 He deserves to be down there. 00:36:24.11\00:36:25.45 You know, that's the mindset, so I'm not gonna help him. 00:36:25.48\00:36:27.52 And that's the kind of thing 00:36:27.55\00:36:28.88 if your reputation is being destroyed, 00:36:28.92\00:36:30.99 or if people are talking about you, 00:36:31.02\00:36:32.35 well, something must be wrong with you. 00:36:32.39\00:36:33.72 Yes. 00:36:33.76\00:36:35.09 You know, something must be wrong with you. 00:36:35.12\00:36:36.46 And it ain't necessarily so, 00:36:36.49\00:36:38.09 the fact is we got a enemy that, 00:36:38.13\00:36:39.89 as you all said, wants to kill and destroy, 00:36:39.93\00:36:41.86 and that includes your reputation. 00:36:41.90\00:36:43.57 Right. So he wants to destroy you. 00:36:43.60\00:36:45.53 And there aren't enough words 00:36:45.57\00:36:48.27 to defend yourself against someone 00:36:48.30\00:36:49.84 who doesn't want to believe the truth about you. 00:36:49.87\00:36:51.84 If people want to believe, and Ellen White said this... 00:36:51.87\00:36:53.71 Absolutely. 00:36:53.74\00:36:55.08 If they want to believe bad, 00:36:55.11\00:36:56.44 you don't have argument enough to try to convince them. 00:36:56.48\00:36:58.81 But if they want to believe good, 00:36:58.85\00:37:01.35 there's plenty evidence to believe in good, 00:37:01.38\00:37:02.72 so it's what's in their heart even more than what's in yours. 00:37:02.75\00:37:05.55 Amen. Yeah. That's right. 00:37:05.59\00:37:07.72 I think the... 00:37:07.76\00:37:09.29 It's about distractions with the enemy too. 00:37:09.32\00:37:13.23 He wants to distract you from your purpose, 00:37:13.26\00:37:15.56 and if you weren't so resolute in what God has told you to do, 00:37:15.60\00:37:19.93 you could get sidetracked with all of the naysayers 00:37:19.97\00:37:24.51 and all that stuff. 00:37:24.54\00:37:25.87 If Satan wants to distract you 00:37:25.91\00:37:27.24 because if he can get you off purpose then he can, 00:37:27.28\00:37:31.58 you know, he can derail you. 00:37:31.61\00:37:33.72 And that's what he seeks to do, so it really is, 00:37:33.75\00:37:37.89 it is a time of self-evaluation. 00:37:37.92\00:37:40.62 I think we have to look at ourselves say, 00:37:40.66\00:37:42.62 you know, is there anything, 00:37:42.66\00:37:43.99 is there anything that's standing 00:37:44.03\00:37:45.63 between me and the savior. 00:37:45.66\00:37:47.43 And I call it clearing the way, like we have to clear the way, 00:37:47.46\00:37:51.43 confess all known sin. 00:37:51.47\00:37:53.34 And Isaiah 59:1-3 says, 00:37:53.37\00:37:56.50 "Behold, the Lord's hand is not shortened, 00:37:56.54\00:37:58.57 that it cannot save, nor his ear heavy, 00:37:58.61\00:38:00.94 that it cannot hear. 00:38:00.98\00:38:02.31 But your iniquities have separated you from your God, 00:38:02.34\00:38:04.88 and your sins have hidden his face from you 00:38:04.91\00:38:07.22 so that he will not hear." 00:38:07.25\00:38:08.58 So if we're going through a hard time, 00:38:08.62\00:38:12.75 and we feel like we're just not making any progress, 00:38:12.79\00:38:17.09 we really need to look at ourselves and say... 00:38:17.13\00:38:18.93 Yeah. 00:38:18.96\00:38:20.30 You know, Lord, is there anything 00:38:20.33\00:38:21.66 that's standing, if there is, please take it away. 00:38:21.70\00:38:24.27 Yes. 00:38:24.30\00:38:25.63 Cleanse me, wash me clean, take it away, 00:38:25.67\00:38:28.97 and the Lord will do that, and then we call upon him. 00:38:29.00\00:38:32.77 And Psalm 50:15 says, 00:38:32.81\00:38:34.84 "Call upon Me in the day of trouble, 00:38:34.88\00:38:36.41 I will deliver you, and you shall glorify Me." 00:38:36.44\00:38:39.75 And Psalm 145:8 says, "The Lord is nigh unto all them 00:38:39.78\00:38:44.12 that call upon Him in truth." 00:38:44.15\00:38:46.69 And then Isaiah 41:10 says, "Fear not, for I am with you, 00:38:46.72\00:38:50.03 be not dismayed, for I am your God, 00:38:50.06\00:38:52.06 I will strengthen..." 00:38:52.09\00:38:53.43 I love this verse, I'm getting happy right now, 00:38:53.46\00:38:55.63 I'm getting happy, I love this verse, 00:38:55.66\00:38:57.93 "I will strengthen you, yes, I will help you, 00:38:57.97\00:39:01.07 I will uphold you with my righteous right hand." 00:39:01.10\00:39:03.34 Amen. Nice. 00:39:03.37\00:39:04.71 There was a time that I had to repeat that all the time. 00:39:04.74\00:39:07.51 Yes. 00:39:07.54\00:39:08.88 And then because it was just... 00:39:08.91\00:39:10.68 It gave me strength 00:39:10.71\00:39:12.05 to go through what I was going through. 00:39:12.08\00:39:13.42 Yes. Yes. 00:39:13.45\00:39:14.78 The word will give us strength if we seek God, 00:39:14.82\00:39:17.92 and we're really going through, 00:39:17.95\00:39:19.29 and everybody goes through something, 00:39:19.32\00:39:21.22 the text that you read earlier. 00:39:21.26\00:39:22.59 Absolutely. 00:39:22.62\00:39:23.96 All who are godly will suffer persecution. 00:39:23.99\00:39:25.69 We're all gonna go through, but if we just hold on to God, 00:39:25.73\00:39:29.36 He will show us... 00:39:29.40\00:39:32.80 We don't know the end from the beginning, 00:39:32.83\00:39:35.30 but we do know His promises. 00:39:35.34\00:39:37.87 And His promises are to be with us through the fire, 00:39:37.91\00:39:41.74 through the river, through the waters, 00:39:41.78\00:39:43.58 through every situation, 00:39:43.61\00:39:45.81 He will not let us go, and I just think I'm... 00:39:45.85\00:39:49.58 That through adversity, we come closer to God. 00:39:49.62\00:39:54.72 Absolutely. Amen. 00:39:54.76\00:39:56.09 Amen. Amen. Yeah. 00:39:56.12\00:39:57.46 You know, I don't... 00:39:57.49\00:39:58.83 It's not the Lord's pleasure 00:39:58.86\00:40:01.36 to give us a pass on suffering. 00:40:01.40\00:40:05.30 1 Peter 4:12, "Beloved, think it not strange, 00:40:05.33\00:40:09.84 concerning the fiery trial which is to try you." 00:40:09.87\00:40:11.77 It's not unusual but rejoice 00:40:11.81\00:40:15.34 because you are partakers of Christ's suffering, 00:40:15.38\00:40:18.31 you know, lifting weights builds muscles. 00:40:18.35\00:40:24.72 Danny was talking about it a little earlier, 00:40:24.75\00:40:26.52 schooling some young boys on the basketball court, 00:40:26.55\00:40:28.82 that's 'cause he shot millions and millions of shots. 00:40:28.86\00:40:31.56 Thousands and thousands of shots, 00:40:31.59\00:40:32.93 you know, you don't get to be a good shooter 00:40:32.96\00:40:34.30 unless you shoot. 00:40:34.33\00:40:35.66 Right. Yeah. 00:40:35.70\00:40:37.03 That's right. And then you shoot a lot. 00:40:37.07\00:40:39.83 No comment, man. I won't deny it. 00:40:39.87\00:40:43.97 But that's how you become a shooter by shooting. 00:40:44.01\00:40:46.78 Right. 00:40:46.81\00:40:48.14 How do you exercise spiritual strength? 00:40:48.18\00:40:49.78 By exercising the faith that God gives you, 00:40:49.81\00:40:51.71 so you build faith in other times. 00:40:51.75\00:40:54.52 Ellen White and James White were driving in the... 00:40:54.55\00:40:57.02 You remember of the old buckboards 00:40:57.05\00:40:59.22 from the Western days, 00:40:59.25\00:41:01.56 it's where the seat is kind of sitting up, 00:41:01.59\00:41:03.66 just kind of exposed and you got this bed, 00:41:03.69\00:41:05.56 it's like kind of like a station wagon. 00:41:05.59\00:41:07.56 Oh, the station wagon thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:41:07.60\00:41:09.33 And you're really kind of exposed. 00:41:09.36\00:41:10.90 And she said, they were driving on a relatively flat road 00:41:10.93\00:41:15.37 and then it hit a small pebble and the thing flipped over, 00:41:15.40\00:41:18.57 just flipped over and threw them both out. 00:41:18.61\00:41:20.88 And they both flew out of the buckboard, 00:41:20.91\00:41:23.18 but they landed soft. 00:41:23.21\00:41:26.38 And later that evening, 00:41:26.41\00:41:28.08 the Lord said to her through her angel, 00:41:28.12\00:41:30.72 Satan was trying to kill you. 00:41:30.75\00:41:32.95 He just flipped it over. 00:41:32.99\00:41:34.32 Now the Lord didn't stop it from flipping over, 00:41:34.36\00:41:37.53 but He gave them a soft landing. 00:41:37.56\00:41:38.89 Yeah. 00:41:38.93\00:41:40.26 And that's what God does sometimes. 00:41:40.30\00:41:41.63 See, He'll let you flip, 00:41:41.66\00:41:43.00 but then He'll put His hands under you 00:41:43.03\00:41:44.37 and let you land soft. 00:41:44.40\00:41:45.73 Oh, that's good. That's what this is. 00:41:45.77\00:41:48.30 So we're so busy, Lord, why you, why you, 00:41:48.34\00:41:50.74 just being flipped, I could have died. 00:41:50.77\00:41:52.11 No, you didn't. 00:41:52.14\00:41:53.48 Underneath, I was taking care of you. 00:41:53.51\00:41:54.84 You know, so... 00:41:54.88\00:41:56.21 Yes. He let him flip. 00:41:56.24\00:41:57.58 He lets Satan flip him, but he let them down easy. 00:41:57.61\00:41:59.81 Yeah. 00:41:59.85\00:42:01.18 The measurement, the barometer is not and we tend to do this 00:42:01.22\00:42:04.95 'cause when we focus on ourselves, 00:42:04.99\00:42:07.06 it's not or how badly I'm being treated, 00:42:07.09\00:42:10.26 or this health issue, or I received that, 00:42:10.29\00:42:13.96 this happened to me, 00:42:14.00\00:42:15.33 that's not the barometer at all. 00:42:15.36\00:42:17.30 It's what am I doing with the life that I have, 00:42:17.33\00:42:20.50 and am I serving the Lord, 00:42:20.54\00:42:22.57 and this life is a fleeting moment 00:42:22.60\00:42:24.61 if you take 70 years in comparison to eternity. 00:42:24.64\00:42:27.61 One preacher said 00:42:27.64\00:42:29.04 'cause we were on the beach not too long ago, 00:42:29.08\00:42:30.78 and there's millions, billions of grains of sand, 00:42:30.81\00:42:33.58 and one preacher said just picture eternity, 00:42:33.62\00:42:36.52 someone said how long is that is, 00:42:36.55\00:42:37.95 well, let's say a bird flew 00:42:37.99\00:42:39.89 from heaven every thousand years, 00:42:39.92\00:42:42.02 picked up one grain of sand from earth 00:42:42.06\00:42:43.83 and went back to heaven, 00:42:43.86\00:42:45.19 when all the grains of sand on earth is gone, 00:42:45.23\00:42:47.36 that's just the beginning. 00:42:47.40\00:42:48.76 It's eternity. 00:42:48.80\00:42:50.13 So when you look at this earth, 00:42:50.17\00:42:51.67 it's not really what happens to you here... 00:42:51.70\00:42:53.44 Right. 00:42:53.47\00:42:54.80 And so because people say well, how about, you know, 00:42:54.84\00:42:57.81 Stephen was stoned to death, 00:42:57.84\00:42:59.17 Peter, crucified upside down, what about it? 00:42:59.21\00:43:01.68 That is a victory for them. That was a victory. 00:43:01.71\00:43:05.01 You can call that persecution... 00:43:05.05\00:43:06.38 Yes. Yes. But it's a victory for them. 00:43:06.41\00:43:07.75 Sure, you're right. 00:43:07.78\00:43:09.12 Because better to do that than to live to be a 100 in luxury 00:43:09.15\00:43:12.15 and riches and everybody is saying how wonderful you are, 00:43:12.19\00:43:14.79 and then be separated from God for eternity. 00:43:14.82\00:43:17.56 So the persecution that comes, 00:43:17.59\00:43:20.23 you shouldn't ever feel that you are to be exempt from it 00:43:20.26\00:43:24.80 because we're really not. 00:43:24.83\00:43:26.43 I really would worry after so many years in ministry, 00:43:26.47\00:43:30.31 but I feel badly for people 00:43:30.34\00:43:32.11 that I've had people write and say I love 3ABN, 00:43:32.14\00:43:35.64 I know thousands of people come to the Lord through 3ABN, 00:43:35.68\00:43:39.51 but I heard this about you, so I'm not giving anymore. 00:43:39.55\00:43:42.88 Well, that really didn't punish me. 00:43:42.92\00:43:44.25 No. No. 00:43:44.29\00:43:45.62 That doesn't punish me, so, but I feel badly for somebody 00:43:45.65\00:43:49.12 who would react, 00:43:49.16\00:43:50.66 and the Lord's impressed them to do something or support, 00:43:50.69\00:43:54.56 but they hear it somebody saying something about me 00:43:54.60\00:43:58.23 or someone else here, and then they say well, 00:43:58.27\00:44:00.24 I'm gonna totally redirect my giving or not give at all. 00:44:00.27\00:44:04.01 That's an issue they have to deal with. 00:44:04.04\00:44:06.14 So for me, I try not to be sidetracked, 00:44:06.17\00:44:09.24 I can tell you that I've never in 33 years 00:44:09.28\00:44:12.21 ever been discouraged, ever thought about quitting. 00:44:12.25\00:44:14.85 Now I've been frustrated, and I've argued with people, 00:44:14.88\00:44:18.15 and I've written things back and forth, 00:44:18.19\00:44:20.46 and I've tried to defend myself, 00:44:20.49\00:44:22.62 and finally, maybe it's just age part of it, 00:44:22.66\00:44:25.39 but I've said you know what, I'm not gonna worry about it. 00:44:25.43\00:44:27.80 Everybody, they have to worry about... 00:44:27.83\00:44:29.33 I can't defend everything that everybody says, 00:44:29.36\00:44:32.27 I'm not supposed to. 00:44:32.30\00:44:33.80 I have to keep the vision straight, 00:44:33.84\00:44:36.50 when Lord wants me out of here, He can get rid of me. 00:44:36.54\00:44:38.77 People don't have to do it, if He wants to get rid of you, 00:44:38.81\00:44:40.94 God can move you out of the way or your pastor, if he's here, 00:44:40.98\00:44:44.28 take, don't worry about it, God wants him out of the way, 00:44:44.31\00:44:46.88 He'll move him, or He may change your heart. 00:44:46.92\00:44:48.35 Amen. That's right. 00:44:48.38\00:44:49.72 You know, maybe you, maybe the problem is with you, 00:44:49.75\00:44:51.82 maybe it's with me. 00:44:51.85\00:44:53.19 So my thing is persecution is part of life. 00:44:53.22\00:44:56.69 And my Dad used to... 00:44:56.73\00:44:58.13 This scripture here when I read on down, 3 Timothy, it says, 00:44:58.16\00:45:03.13 "Go back to the things of your childhood 00:45:03.16\00:45:05.17 which you've learned from the Bible 00:45:05.20\00:45:06.53 where you learned principles... 00:45:06.57\00:45:08.20 Second Timothy 3. 00:45:08.24\00:45:09.57 Yeah, 2 Timothy 3, I think, what is it? 00:45:09.60\00:45:12.34 Verse 14 or so, but I think about my Dad. 00:45:12.37\00:45:15.21 I'd come home from school and say Dad, 00:45:15.24\00:45:16.95 this guy said or whoever they said this about me, 00:45:16.98\00:45:19.75 and he says son, sticks and stones 00:45:19.78\00:45:21.28 will broke your bones but words will never hurt you. 00:45:21.32\00:45:23.45 Don't worry about what somebody says about you, 00:45:23.49\00:45:26.96 just do what you know how to do, 00:45:26.99\00:45:28.86 do the best you know how to do, the Lord will judge you, 00:45:28.89\00:45:32.03 so don't worry about what other people say, 00:45:32.06\00:45:33.86 so it's kind of elementary, 00:45:33.90\00:45:35.73 and they're even telling us here 00:45:35.76\00:45:38.23 saying go back to your childhood. 00:45:38.27\00:45:40.14 Look at the scriptures from the principles 00:45:40.17\00:45:42.24 that you've learned, 00:45:42.27\00:45:43.61 stick to that and just ask God, say Lord, 00:45:43.64\00:45:47.31 you know, it's between me and you, 00:45:47.34\00:45:49.61 so whether I die today, 00:45:49.64\00:45:51.11 or whether I die next month, or 20 years from now, 00:45:51.15\00:45:54.02 it really is irrelevant when we look at eternity. 00:45:54.05\00:45:57.35 Amen. 00:45:57.39\00:45:58.72 We all want to be here, 00:45:58.75\00:46:00.09 you want to be here as long as you can, 00:46:00.12\00:46:01.46 you want to be healthy and happy. 00:46:01.49\00:46:02.82 But if you're not, it's just for a fleeting moment 00:46:02.86\00:46:05.46 because eternity is what matters... 00:46:05.49\00:46:07.46 That's right. 00:46:07.50\00:46:08.83 And that's already been said, 00:46:08.86\00:46:10.40 we submit and commit our lives to Jesus 00:46:10.43\00:46:12.83 and then just do the best we know how to do. 00:46:12.87\00:46:15.67 We get to heaven, we're all gonna say, 00:46:15.70\00:46:17.87 man, I didn't think this guy was gonna be here, 00:46:17.91\00:46:21.68 you know, or he didn't think this guy was gonna be here. 00:46:21.71\00:46:24.75 And they're gonna look at us and say, 00:46:24.78\00:46:26.11 I didn't think he was gonna make it here, 00:46:26.15\00:46:28.15 but we're all going to be surprised to say, 00:46:28.18\00:46:31.05 how did God save any of us. 00:46:31.09\00:46:32.69 Amen. We're all so wretched. 00:46:32.72\00:46:34.52 Here we thought, we were living the very best 00:46:34.56\00:46:36.76 we knew how to live 00:46:36.79\00:46:38.26 and we're trying to keep the commandments of God 00:46:38.29\00:46:40.46 and trying to be these good people, 00:46:40.50\00:46:42.53 and somehow God was able to save us 00:46:42.56\00:46:45.20 because He could read between lines of our heart 00:46:45.23\00:46:47.40 and He read into our heart, not just our actions or, 00:46:47.44\00:46:51.47 you know, from time to time we get upset or get distracted, 00:46:51.51\00:46:55.34 so keep focus. 00:46:55.38\00:46:56.81 All I can say to you is keep focus on the Lord, 00:46:56.85\00:46:59.05 don't worry about what people say about you. 00:46:59.08\00:47:01.52 Just go forward and continue this relationship, 00:47:01.55\00:47:04.62 Jesus says, "If I'll be lifted up from this earth, 00:47:04.65\00:47:06.96 will draw all men unto me." 00:47:06.99\00:47:08.96 Amen, amen. 00:47:08.99\00:47:10.33 We've touched on this and I know, Yvonne, 00:47:10.36\00:47:11.73 you got some stuff to sort of walk us through. 00:47:11.76\00:47:14.03 But it occurred to me, I preached a sermon, 00:47:14.06\00:47:16.60 I've been preaching a lot lately called Ontology. 00:47:16.63\00:47:19.53 Big 25 cent word that boils down to purpose and focus. 00:47:19.57\00:47:23.27 We're created for a purpose. 00:47:23.30\00:47:24.71 God has a purpose for all of us, 00:47:24.74\00:47:26.57 and focus is how we maintain our purpose. 00:47:26.61\00:47:29.58 And when you lose your focus, you lose your purpose in life, 00:47:29.61\00:47:33.92 you got to stay focused. 00:47:33.95\00:47:35.28 There is a commercial, Irma and I were looking at it 00:47:35.32\00:47:36.82 just last night. 00:47:36.85\00:47:38.32 There is a white background with a nice red apple. 00:47:38.35\00:47:42.16 And remember we were talking about that, 00:47:42.19\00:47:43.53 they said this is an apple, 00:47:43.56\00:47:45.93 some may call it a banana but it's an apple. 00:47:45.96\00:47:49.53 It's always an apple and then it is just little, 00:47:49.56\00:47:51.80 one of those little whiner things with the teeth go... 00:47:51.83\00:47:54.94 you know, the mouth is going by. 00:47:54.97\00:47:56.30 So you have to sing them by... 00:47:56.34\00:47:58.77 And it says that is a distraction, 00:47:58.81\00:48:02.38 that is a distraction. 00:48:02.41\00:48:03.75 But this is still an apple and it occurs to me, 00:48:03.78\00:48:07.85 some of the things that we've been talking about, 00:48:07.88\00:48:09.25 Satan will do so much to distract you 00:48:09.28\00:48:11.22 from your purpose. 00:48:11.25\00:48:12.59 Right. Your purpose is to serve God. 00:48:12.62\00:48:14.66 Ephesians 2:10 says, 00:48:14.69\00:48:18.33 "We were created for good works." 00:48:18.36\00:48:21.66 That's why God made us. 00:48:21.70\00:48:23.03 And we can get distracted into a whole lot of revenge, 00:48:23.06\00:48:25.73 and defending ourselves and all that... 00:48:25.77\00:48:28.90 That a distraction, that's not what you are created for, 00:48:28.94\00:48:31.31 you are created to serve the Lord. 00:48:31.34\00:48:32.77 And as you maintain your focus, you will fulfill your purpose. 00:48:32.81\00:48:37.78 And that's what God wants to see, He wants us to be safe, 00:48:37.81\00:48:39.68 Thessalonians tells me. 00:48:39.71\00:48:41.05 He wants me to be saved. 00:48:41.08\00:48:42.42 And the distraction, I've learned, 00:48:42.45\00:48:44.72 it comes through the weakness that we have. 00:48:44.75\00:48:48.09 That's where the distractions that the enemy brings, 00:48:48.12\00:48:51.99 it's not where you're strong and that you can do good, 00:48:52.03\00:48:55.90 it's where he can get you that, like you say made you stumble, 00:48:55.93\00:49:01.10 made you fall, made you go in other way. 00:49:01.14\00:49:03.84 Yeah, so what's the most important, 00:49:03.87\00:49:06.11 defending myself or uplifting Jesus? 00:49:06.14\00:49:09.21 Uplifting Jesus. That's right. 00:49:09.24\00:49:10.58 That's what we have to decide. 00:49:10.61\00:49:11.95 That's right. That's right. Amen. 00:49:11.98\00:49:14.48 Yvonne, you were talking about some stuff 00:49:14.52\00:49:15.85 that you were looking at dealing with the same subject? 00:49:15.88\00:49:18.22 Yeah, yeah, well, one thing 00:49:18.25\00:49:20.06 is 'cause I mentioned the other thing 00:49:20.09\00:49:21.62 like clearing the way 00:49:21.66\00:49:22.99 and but another is turning your pain into purpose, 00:49:23.02\00:49:27.83 which is really... 00:49:27.86\00:49:29.63 When you go through something, you have a testimony now. 00:49:29.66\00:49:32.37 Yes, yeah. 00:49:32.40\00:49:33.74 Because once you've gone through it 00:49:33.77\00:49:35.77 and you're on the other side of it, 00:49:35.80\00:49:37.91 then you can say, whoa! 00:49:37.94\00:49:39.27 Look at how God brought me from here to here, 00:49:39.31\00:49:42.08 I didn't know that I'd be from here to here. 00:49:42.11\00:49:46.01 I was just going through like the darkest time of my life. 00:49:46.05\00:49:49.28 But God brings us through to the other side 00:49:49.32\00:49:53.02 and then gives you a testimony. 00:49:53.05\00:49:55.19 So you can take that comfort that He used to comfort you 00:49:55.22\00:49:59.83 and comfort someone else. 00:49:59.86\00:50:01.70 And so that is really an important point, 00:50:01.73\00:50:05.33 I think to that we can turn our pain into purpose. 00:50:05.37\00:50:07.94 Amen. That's good. 00:50:07.97\00:50:09.30 Amen. 00:50:09.34\00:50:10.67 You know, it's the trick of the devil, 00:50:10.71\00:50:12.44 so many preachers preach that once you come to the Lord, 00:50:12.47\00:50:14.71 you can kind of put it on autopilot, 00:50:14.74\00:50:16.44 goes by in the sky. 00:50:16.48\00:50:17.95 To which I respond, are you kidding? 00:50:17.98\00:50:21.68 That's when your battle really begins, 00:50:21.72\00:50:24.12 and you must be prepared for it, 00:50:24.15\00:50:25.82 and God is not going to give you a pass. 00:50:25.85\00:50:28.66 You know, this reading says, particularly for those of you 00:50:28.69\00:50:31.43 who may be in leadership positions. 00:50:31.46\00:50:33.46 It's interesting that she says, 00:50:33.50\00:50:36.33 "In all ages, God's appointed witnesses..." 00:50:36.36\00:50:39.73 Here is the terminology she uses, 00:50:39.77\00:50:41.57 "Have exposed themselves to reproach and persecution." 00:50:41.60\00:50:46.21 So once you stand up above the crowd 00:50:46.24\00:50:49.68 to do something for the Lord, you're exposed. 00:50:49.71\00:50:51.91 That's right. 00:50:51.95\00:50:53.28 And that's when people are going to take shots at you 00:50:53.31\00:50:55.05 and you're exposed, but God, you know, 00:50:55.08\00:50:58.92 put in prerogative language God's got your back, 00:50:58.95\00:51:01.32 you know, He is not going to leave you out there. 00:51:01.36\00:51:02.92 He bring didn't bring you out to die in the wilderness, 00:51:02.96\00:51:05.26 He brought you out that you might go in, 00:51:05.29\00:51:08.10 so He has not left you. 00:51:08.13\00:51:09.50 And this is another one I want to say real quick. 00:51:09.53\00:51:12.37 Suffering is not commentary on God's displeasure with you. 00:51:12.40\00:51:15.20 That's right. 00:51:15.24\00:51:16.57 You're suffering and that was in Jewish mindset, 00:51:16.60\00:51:18.51 you're suffering, 00:51:18.54\00:51:19.87 there's got to be some secret stuff going on... 00:51:19.91\00:51:21.24 I've heard a pastor say this, 00:51:21.28\00:51:22.61 there's got to be some secret stuff going on in your life 00:51:22.64\00:51:24.75 that God is displeased. 00:51:24.78\00:51:26.78 Suffering is not commentary, 00:51:26.82\00:51:28.88 it can be preparation for a very strong testimony 00:51:28.92\00:51:31.99 that you can witness in somebody else. 00:51:32.02\00:51:33.69 Yeah, it really can. 00:51:33.72\00:51:35.06 And we have the misconception that whatever we see 00:51:35.09\00:51:37.93 is the reality and Hebrews 11 says that, 00:51:37.96\00:51:42.26 "The faith is the substance of what we don't see." 00:51:42.30\00:51:45.50 So the things that have eternal value 00:51:45.53\00:51:47.94 are things that we don't see. 00:51:47.97\00:51:49.47 So that's why when we judge somebody 00:51:49.50\00:51:51.97 because we think that person or this a person that is... 00:51:52.01\00:51:56.51 Okay, he's good looking, has a good... 00:51:56.54\00:51:59.51 That must be probably a good person. 00:51:59.55\00:52:02.28 I mean, the other person that doesn't look so good, 00:52:02.32\00:52:04.39 oh, be careful with that or something like that. 00:52:04.42\00:52:06.99 So we always judge people and things 00:52:07.02\00:52:11.93 by their external appearance and that is very common. 00:52:11.96\00:52:16.40 So the message has to be, okay, like you said in the beginning, 00:52:16.43\00:52:23.00 turn your eyes up on Jesus. 00:52:23.04\00:52:24.91 I know that my redeemer believes that 00:52:24.94\00:52:27.61 there is something beyond my eyes, 00:52:27.64\00:52:30.45 beyond my comprehension. 00:52:30.48\00:52:33.45 You know, Danny, I've got to pay you a compliment, man, 00:52:33.48\00:52:35.62 because you said, I've never lost a night's sleep 00:52:35.65\00:52:39.42 over stuff people say about me and things like that. 00:52:39.45\00:52:42.09 Yeah. I have. 00:52:42.12\00:52:43.93 I have and when I was in the ministry 00:52:43.96\00:52:46.83 and fairly far along in the ministry. 00:52:46.86\00:52:49.46 I was trying to do something right, 00:52:49.50\00:52:51.40 and straighten out something, 00:52:51.43\00:52:53.54 and someone put out a story on me. 00:52:53.57\00:52:55.54 And I said, you know what, see... 00:52:55.57\00:53:00.54 I was very much into, 00:53:00.58\00:53:01.91 I got to find a way to even to score here, 00:53:01.94\00:53:06.51 you know, and I never could, I never did. 00:53:06.55\00:53:09.22 And it showed me, 00:53:09.25\00:53:11.55 I'm not by nature a vengeful person, 00:53:11.59\00:53:15.09 but I thought this was over the top 00:53:15.12\00:53:16.89 and it was reputation driven. 00:53:16.93\00:53:20.43 You don't have to think good about me, 00:53:20.46\00:53:22.46 just be accurate, you know, just don't... 00:53:22.50\00:53:24.67 Yeah, just don't... That's not going to happen. 00:53:24.70\00:53:26.03 Yeah. Not in this world. 00:53:26.07\00:53:27.84 I know that won't happen in this world. 00:53:27.87\00:53:29.64 And don't just lie on me 00:53:29.67\00:53:32.47 because people are so anxious 00:53:32.51\00:53:35.58 almost with itching ears to hear dirt unfold. 00:53:35.61\00:53:38.08 Yes. 00:53:38.11\00:53:39.45 So a lie goes around the world 00:53:39.48\00:53:40.88 while the truth is still trying to put its boots on. 00:53:40.92\00:53:42.25 Yeah. You know, that kind of thing. 00:53:42.28\00:53:43.62 So I said, I got to... 00:53:43.65\00:53:47.59 You know, and you just, you can't spend your life... 00:53:47.62\00:53:50.26 First of all, it eats at your own soul 00:53:50.29\00:53:52.03 and it eats at your own spirituality. 00:53:52.06\00:53:54.10 And secondly, it's just an awful way to live. 00:53:54.13\00:53:57.13 Yes. 00:53:57.17\00:53:58.50 It's awful, awful way... It's consuming. 00:53:58.53\00:53:59.87 You got to give it to Jesus. And we can counteract. 00:53:59.90\00:54:04.24 Let's say, we're persecuted. 00:54:04.27\00:54:06.64 I know people who have been persecuted 00:54:06.68\00:54:08.88 verbally in the church or what have you, 00:54:08.91\00:54:11.21 so how do we respond to that, 00:54:11.25\00:54:13.31 we write something down 00:54:13.35\00:54:14.68 and put it all over emails and Facebook, 00:54:14.72\00:54:17.05 I'll show this person, I'll say this about him, 00:54:17.09\00:54:20.06 and I'll do this and all of this stuff 00:54:20.09\00:54:22.82 is like wait a minute, 00:54:22.86\00:54:24.19 all who live godly shall suffer persecution. 00:54:24.23\00:54:26.43 So when you get that, 00:54:26.46\00:54:28.06 what is it that I'm going to do with it, 00:54:28.10\00:54:29.63 I don't want to be so focused, 00:54:29.66\00:54:31.60 you know, I want to be so focused 00:54:31.63\00:54:34.54 on getting the gospel to the world. 00:54:34.57\00:54:36.77 That I just have to say, okay, 00:54:36.81\00:54:38.17 I'm going to let this go and let this go, 00:54:38.21\00:54:39.71 I'm not going to spend all my time defending it 00:54:39.74\00:54:42.18 and then become a garbage collector. 00:54:42.21\00:54:44.28 Jesus said, "Go ye into all the world." 00:54:44.31\00:54:47.05 And He didn't say be a garbage collector 00:54:47.08\00:54:49.45 'cause one time years ago, someone wrote in ministry, 00:54:49.48\00:54:52.32 we were fairly young in ministry, 00:54:52.35\00:54:53.72 something really bad about 3ABN, 00:54:53.76\00:54:56.26 it wasn't true and we were taken over by the church, 00:54:56.29\00:54:58.63 and we've compromised the three angels' messages. 00:54:58.66\00:55:01.10 So I was going to write all this stuff down 00:55:01.13\00:55:04.17 and put out a newsletter to counteract it. 00:55:04.20\00:55:07.30 But then through consulting and advice from others was, 00:55:07.34\00:55:11.87 you know, do you want to be a channel of blessing 00:55:11.91\00:55:14.28 or do you want to be a garbage collector. 00:55:14.31\00:55:16.48 So it occurred to me, I can't write, 00:55:16.51\00:55:19.58 I could write a book, and so could you, 00:55:19.61\00:55:21.68 about how people have mistreated me 00:55:21.72\00:55:23.35 in this church and from into church, 00:55:23.39\00:55:26.52 you know, whether leadership, members, 00:55:26.55\00:55:28.39 whatever and most of us could. 00:55:28.42\00:55:30.53 But what good would it do, 00:55:30.56\00:55:31.89 how many people would be brought to Jesus 00:55:31.93\00:55:34.16 because of that. 00:55:34.20\00:55:35.53 We live in a sinful world, 00:55:35.56\00:55:36.90 that's the way things are in life 00:55:36.93\00:55:38.70 but how many people have I called started too. 00:55:38.73\00:55:41.00 You know what I'm saying, 00:55:41.04\00:55:42.37 they could write a book about me, 00:55:42.40\00:55:43.74 I'm sure over the years. 00:55:43.77\00:55:45.11 So we're all guilty but what we have to do 00:55:45.14\00:55:47.21 at least in my mind is try to keep focused on the vision, 00:55:47.24\00:55:50.08 what's the vision God has given us in this year is, 00:55:50.11\00:55:54.58 coming year and all of 2018, 00:55:54.62\00:55:56.92 the three angles' messages 00:55:56.95\00:55:58.29 because I believe that's what we really need to focus on. 00:55:58.32\00:56:01.72 We're seeing the world around us crumble. 00:56:01.76\00:56:04.23 It's falling, people are dying as Brother Mitch has said, 00:56:04.26\00:56:07.40 going to Christ's grace, 00:56:07.43\00:56:08.76 what are we doing 00:56:08.80\00:56:10.40 as Seventh-day Adventist Christians, 00:56:10.43\00:56:12.53 and to get ourselves focused, 00:56:12.57\00:56:14.54 and to the help the church refocus on our purpose, 00:56:14.57\00:56:18.07 and that's the three angles' message, 00:56:18.11\00:56:19.57 God is coming back for those 00:56:19.61\00:56:21.31 who keep the commandments of God, 00:56:21.34\00:56:22.68 and have the faith of Jesus. 00:56:22.71\00:56:24.28 And we can't afford to be sidetracked by all this stuff. 00:56:24.31\00:56:27.62 So people are bothering you, don't worry about it, 00:56:27.65\00:56:29.45 they are talking about you, say, praise the Lord, 00:56:29.48\00:56:31.85 I'm getting a little better at the Jesus treatment 00:56:31.89\00:56:33.59 and move on. 00:56:33.62\00:56:34.96 That's it. That's it. 00:56:34.99\00:56:36.32 And now we have come to down to the last minute. 00:56:36.36\00:56:37.86 You know, I'm reading from Hebrews 11 00:56:37.89\00:56:40.56 but my mind goes to Revelation 18, 00:56:40.60\00:56:43.60 as we're in 2018, 00:56:43.63\00:56:45.43 I'm thinking about that 00:56:45.47\00:56:46.87 fourth angel there in Revelation 18. 00:56:46.90\00:56:50.11 That was called to give impetus 00:56:50.14\00:56:52.27 to the message of the third angel. 00:56:52.31\00:56:54.34 You know, it's one that put the air 00:56:54.38\00:56:56.88 under the wings of that third angel, 00:56:56.91\00:56:58.71 that in these last hours, 00:56:58.75\00:57:01.48 moments dare we say of earth's history, 00:57:01.52\00:57:03.28 God's people must lift up the name of Jesus 00:57:03.32\00:57:05.55 and preach the message of the three angels that, 00:57:05.59\00:57:08.29 not on just Babylon fallen but judgment is coming, 00:57:08.32\00:57:10.99 it's time to get right with the Lord. 00:57:11.03\00:57:14.43 We talked about faith. 00:57:14.46\00:57:16.23 Hebrews 11 is the great faith chapter, 00:57:16.26\00:57:18.67 but what I'm impressed 00:57:18.70\00:57:20.04 with are the last two verses 39 and 40. 00:57:20.07\00:57:22.90 I want to read those in closing, 00:57:22.94\00:57:25.11 "And all these things havening 00:57:25.14\00:57:26.54 obtained a good testimony through faith, 00:57:26.57\00:57:28.98 they did not receive the promise. 00:57:29.01\00:57:31.21 God haven't provided something better for us 00:57:31.25\00:57:33.88 that they should not be made perfect without us." 00:57:33.92\00:57:36.32 So all of these great men and women of old 00:57:36.35\00:57:38.82 will not get to heaven, one moment before we do, 00:57:38.85\00:57:40.66 we're all going together. 00:57:40.69\00:57:42.02 Amen. 00:57:42.06\00:57:43.39 So we're meant to be strong through persecution, 00:57:43.43\00:57:44.93 God's got a reward for all of us. 00:57:44.96\00:57:46.43 Amen. Happy Sabbath. 00:57:46.46\00:57:48.20 Happy Sabbath. 00:57:48.23\00:57:49.90