Today Family Worship

Family Worship

Three Angels Broadcasting Network

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Participants: C.A. & Irma Murray (Host), Jason Bradley, Xenia Capote, Jorge Jaque, Lynette Parrs-Jaque

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Program Code: TDYFW017032A


00:01 I want to spend my life
00:04 Spend my life
00:07 Mending broken people
00:12 I want to spend my life
00:18 Removing pain
00:23 Lord, let my words
00:27 Let my words
00:29 Heal a heart that hurts
00:34 I want to spend my life
00:40 Mending broken people
00:45 I want to spend my life
00:51 Mending broke people
01:07 Hello, and welcome to 3ABN Family Worship.
01:11 We thank you for spending a little of the opening
01:15 of the Sabbath hours
01:17 and should you be watching this on a Saturday evening
01:19 then the beginning of a brand new week
01:21 but we thank you as we welcome you
01:23 into our "house".
01:25 And you join us for a very fine worship we spending.
01:28 Irma, we've got the guests with us today, do we not?
01:32 Yes, we do.
01:35 And we praise the Lord for that.
01:37 We want to go right into introducing
01:39 the Family Worship members who are here.
01:41 And we've actually been in the homes
01:43 of all of these people for Family Worship
01:46 at one time or another.
01:48 And we haven't been to Jason's apartment yet though.
01:50 No, we are waiting.
01:52 But you guys are welcome to come over
01:53 and bring some food.
01:56 Spoken like a true bachelor.
01:58 We will start with Lynette and Jorge Jaque.
02:01 Good to have you guys here. Good to be here as usual.
02:04 Indeed, good to see you as always.
02:06 And we were at your house just a few days ago.
02:07 Yes.
02:09 And he always has good food in his house.
02:10 Yes. Come on over.
02:12 Jorge has skills in the kitchen, he does.
02:14 Yeah, he does.
02:15 Some, some. Some.
02:16 Some skills. Yes, yes.
02:18 And what he lacks, Lynnette has.
02:19 And we've gone to some good rice,
02:20 we have guacamole, we have other things.
02:25 All kind of goodies. Yes, yes.
02:28 Smoothies.
02:29 And then of course, my wife is an internationally known cook,
02:33 known on at least two continents.
02:36 At least two.
02:38 And two countries, here and Panama at least.
02:40 Yeah, at least.
02:41 And Jason is a good cook.
02:43 Yeah, Jason likes to cook. He's a very good cook.
02:46 Yeah, I can to a very little something in the kitchen.
02:48 And we have Xenia Capote on the piano
02:51 and we've food at her house too.
02:54 And she has one of my favorite dishes
02:55 which I'm not going to mention and neither are you.
02:58 And she's a very good cook also.
03:01 So this is a good family worship
03:03 and we're gonna make ourselves hungry
03:04 if we keep talking about food.
03:06 So we should probably get to our song.
03:10 If you want to join us for the music,
03:11 it's 608 in the Adventist hymnal,
03:14 it's Faith is the Victory.
03:16 We're going to sing all three stanzas.
03:19 And then we're going to ask Xenia
03:21 to come and join us for our discussion.
03:23 And today we're going to look at developing good habits.
03:27 We're gonna talk about good habits.
03:29 And if time allows,
03:31 we're going to talk about the records of God
03:34 and the record keeping of the Lord.
03:36 So we'll see how our time goes.
03:38 We may have to save the record keeping
03:39 for another program.
03:41 But again, thank you for joining us for Family Worship.
03:43 It's always a good time
03:45 when we come together for worship.
03:47 So, Xenia, if you will.
03:56 Encamped along the hills of light
04:00 Ye Christian soldiers, rise
04:04 And press the battle ere the night
04:07 Shall veil the glowing skies
04:11 Against the foe in vales below
04:15 Let all our strength be hurled
04:19 Faith is the victory, we know
04:24 That overcomes the world
04:28 Faith is the victory! Faith is the victory!
04:36 O, glorious victory
04:39 That overcomes the world
04:42 Then stanza number two.
04:44 On every hand the foe we find
04:48 Drawn up in dread array
04:52 Let tents of ease be left behind
04:56 And onward to the fray
05:00 Salvation's helmet on each head
05:04 With truth all girt about
05:08 The earth shall tremble 'neath our tread
05:13 And echo with our shout
05:17 Faith is the victory! Faith is the victory!
05:25 O, glorious victory
05:29 That overcomes the world
05:34 To him that overcomes the foe
05:38 White raiment shall be giv'n
05:42 Before the angels he shall know
05:46 His name confessed in heaven
05:50 Then onward from the hills of light
05:54 Our hearts with love aflame
05:58 We'll vanquish all the hosts of night
06:03 In Jesus' conquering name
06:08 Faith is the victory! Faith is the victory!
06:16 O, glorious victory
06:19 That overcomes the world
06:25 Amen, faith is the victory that overcomes the world.
06:31 While Xenia is making her way back over,
06:34 Jason, would you lead us in prayer
06:35 and then we'll go right into our reading and our study.
06:38 Sure.
06:39 Dear heavenly Father, we thank You
06:41 for the opportunity to study Your Word to come together
06:44 and have devotion together.
06:47 We ask that You would please fill this place
06:50 with Your Holy Spirit that You would lead
06:51 and guide us into all truth.
06:53 And be with all those that are watching at home,
06:55 Lord, fill their homes with Your Spirit,
06:57 and lead and guide them into all truth as well.
07:00 Thank You for hearing this prayer.
07:01 In Jesus' name, we pray.
07:03 Amen. Amen.
07:05 Our study today comes from a reading
07:08 that was part of this year's morning watch booking.
07:12 And this is something that Irma and I read.
07:15 We try to get to it every day unless we get up
07:17 really, really late in afternoon
07:19 and then we have to do in the evening.
07:20 But we try to go into the morning watch everyday.
07:25 It is written and addressed particularly to youth,
07:29 but you'll find and we found that it has information
07:34 and encouragement for young and old alike.
07:39 The subject is developing good habits.
07:43 It's under the heading of the section
07:46 called consecration and Christian experience.
07:50 The Bible text is
07:53 Psalms 119:101,
07:59 "I've refrained my feet from every evil way
08:04 that I might keep Thy word."
08:07 I'm gonna read it and then we're gonna spend little time
08:09 responding to this because this has a lot of meat
08:12 in this particular section.
08:16 It says, "We are nearing the end of time,"
08:18 and to that, we can all say amen,
08:21 "and we want now not to meet
08:23 the world's tastes and practices
08:26 but to meet the mind of God,
08:30 to see what sayeth the scriptures
08:32 and then to walk according to the light
08:35 which God has give us."
08:36 So to see and then walk in that light.
08:38 "The youth are forming habits
08:41 which will, in nine cases out of ten,
08:44 decide their future.
08:46 The influence of the company they keep,
08:49 the associations they form, the principles they adopt
08:54 will be carried with them through life.
08:58 We shall be individually, for a time and eternity,
09:03 what our habits make us.
09:06 The lives of those who form right habits
09:09 and are faithful in the performance of every duty
09:13 will be as shining lights, shredding bright beams
09:16 upon the pathway of others.
09:18 There is no need of being spiritual dwarfs
09:21 if the mind is continual exercised in spiritual things
09:27 but merely, praying for this and about this will not meet
09:32 the necessities of the case."
09:33 So a lot of people praying for stuff and about stuff
09:36 but not putting their heart in it.
09:39 "You must habituate the mind
09:43 to concentration upon spiritual things.
09:46 Exercise will bring strength.
09:49 Many professed Christians are in a fairway
09:53 to lose both worlds
09:55 to be half a Christian and half a worldly man
09:59 makes you about 100th of part Christian
10:03 and all the rest worldly."
10:05 That's interesting. That sort of caught my mind.
10:07 You think you're half and half but really you're way over
10:09 in the world's side and not near Christ at all.
10:12 "The mind must be educated and disciplined to love purity,
10:17 a love for spiritual things should be encouraged.
10:20 Ye must be encouraged if you would grow in grace
10:24 and in the knowledge of truth.
10:26 We, I'm sorry, the will must be exercised
10:29 in the right direction.
10:31 I will be a whole hearted Christian.
10:34 I will know the length and breadth,
10:37 the height and depth of perfect love.
10:39 Listen to the words of Jesus,
10:41 blessed are they which do hunger and thirst
10:44 after righteousness for they shall be filled,
10:49 Matthew 5:6.
10:52 Ample provision, I like this,
10:53 ample provisions are made by Christ
10:56 to satisfy the soul that hungers and thirsts
11:00 for righteousness."
11:05 I want to start off by just taking a couple of things
11:07 that sort of jump out at me.
11:09 Ellen White says, and I've done this study
11:11 many, many times about the correct use of the will.
11:16 There are those who say, "You just give yourself
11:18 over to Jesus."
11:20 But there must be, my understanding says,
11:24 a deciding to be like Christ, you know,
11:28 a decision of the will, I'm not...
11:31 I'm going to use what will I have
11:34 to surrender to Jesus.
11:35 Now here's the thing I was talking about churches.
11:38 To use the will to not do something
11:42 is a wrong use of the will.
11:44 It's negative.
11:47 Say, I'm saying, "I don't want to think about Irma."
11:50 So I'm gonna think about not thinking about Irma.
11:54 So I am in effect thinking about Irma
11:58 because that's the wrong use of the will.
12:00 If Irma tempts me, well, praise the Lord, but...
12:07 But my point is to use the will to not do something
12:11 is an incorrect use of the will.
12:14 What I've got to use my will power is
12:16 to keep Jesus in my heart, and Jesus in my mind.
12:20 So I've got to replace this with something else.
12:23 You follow what I'm saying?
12:24 So if I'm thinking about not thinking about Irma,
12:26 I'm thinking about Irma.
12:27 What I need to do is concentrate on Christ.
12:30 And Christ gives me the will not to think about Irma.
12:33 I think it's like,
12:36 when you identify with something,
12:37 with a belief, with a person, right,
12:40 or with an organization, you are...
12:45 That's I think applies to what you're saying.
12:48 So my identification is with Christ.
12:52 I would even then identify with Him.
12:54 I want people who sees me,
12:57 they see my identification right away.
13:01 And so if I think more and more about my wife in this case,
13:05 or Christ or any belief,
13:09 that's what I'm going to be, I become.
13:12 And that's super important in our Christian life
13:16 because otherwise we'll become nothing.
13:19 Identity is everything.
13:21 Someone said to me the other day,
13:23 and I don't want to dominate conversation
13:24 but this occurred to me, he said,
13:26 "I know that you can stop," I don't remember,
13:30 he was drinking or smoking because I did.
13:34 I was a drinker, I was a smoker.
13:35 And I need to stop.
13:36 I just said, "I'm not doing it anymore."
13:38 And Ellen White tells us in the history of Joseph Bates.
13:41 Joseph Bates was like that.
13:43 He was a drinker, a smoker, a rough sea captain.
13:45 He decided one day, "You know what,
13:47 I'm done with cigarettes."
13:50 Then he said, "Okay, I'm not going to smoke pipes
13:51 anymore and so he stopped.
13:53 I'm not going to do alcohol anymore, so he stopped.
13:56 He just on force of will, he stopped.
13:58 Most people aren't that good. Don't have that.
14:01 You know, who can just say, "I'm done with that."
14:03 And they're just done.
14:05 So most people have to say,
14:09 "I'm going to have to concentrate on Jesus,
14:12 and let Jesus help me stop smoking.
14:14 Let Jesus help me stop drinking because if you're sitting there
14:17 thinking about that that glass of wine, look up
14:20 "Today, I'm not going to think about that wine."
14:22 Right. You keep looking at it. Right, yeah.
14:25 What you have to say is,
14:27 "Today, I'm going to concentrate on Jesus
14:29 and let Jesus help me stop."
14:31 The will has to come in.
14:33 But to use the will to do negative stuff is not,
14:35 is the wrong use of the will, I feel.
14:37 The more you try to avoid it, the more you think about it.
14:40 Yeah, that's right.
14:41 When somebody tells you not to do something,
14:43 you're thinking about, "Oh, I want to do it now."
14:45 Right.
14:48 Something very interesting.
14:49 This morning, my daughter sent me a devotional
14:52 that she was reading, and I forgot to bring it.
14:55 But the gist was of that, he says...
15:00 And he has a lot to do with this condition as to,
15:03 "I want to do something and I don't do it."
15:07 Because it says, "We grow in Christ
15:10 when we take the time to meditate on Him
15:13 an hour at least, a minimum an hour a day.
15:17 Just the fact that we are hanging around
15:19 with other Christian people doesn't give us the strength
15:22 to do these things.
15:24 So we could be in church trying to quit smoking
15:27 and just because we're there, it's not going to happen.
15:30 We need to have that relationship
15:32 that prayer season, you know, the season of prayer,
15:36 I'm sorry, that that will lead you
15:39 to have the strength to do these things, you know,
15:42 the will that give you the will because without the will,
15:45 you're not going to do it.
15:47 Willpower comes from God.
15:49 It's not just yours.
15:51 So it's not just hanging around with the right people
15:55 or looking at the right movies or listening to right music,
16:00 that's not enough.
16:01 You need that connection with God,
16:03 that devotion time alone with God.
16:07 I'm sorry.
16:08 I think what your daughter was referring probably is,
16:14 there is a quote from Ellen White
16:18 from Desire of Ages, it says,
16:20 "Will do us well to meditate about Jesus one hour a day,
16:26 and especially in the final events of this life,
16:32 if we do that, our life will completely change.
16:34 There's some people says that if you dedicate
16:39 one hour a day to study any discipline,
16:43 any career,
16:47 let's say you wanna become a lawyer, in five years,
16:50 you can be the best lawyer, the best in any field
16:55 if you dedicate just one hour a day.
16:57 So that's going back to what you're saying.
17:00 So if you want to be a strong Christian,
17:02 give Him at least one hour a day in order to build
17:04 some spiritual muscles.
17:05 I'm glad... I'm sorry, go ahead.
17:08 And you're glad. I'm glad you're glad.
17:12 Totally dented.
17:16 I wanted to say that this past week,
17:19 something about habits
17:21 how you know it talks about not just the youth
17:24 but the adults also.
17:27 You know, sometimes we would want
17:29 to change things in our lives and any storm, you know,
17:33 even experts have said that
17:35 if you take certain amount of days,
17:39 you will actually forget that habit
17:42 and you'll get a new habit then you're something
17:45 more positive in your life.
17:47 But last week, I was...
17:50 That is some music that I like to listen sometimes
17:55 but that is I found that I cannot do it all the time,
18:01 I rather not listen too much to the music
18:05 because it stays in my mind.
18:07 And last week, I had...
18:11 I listened to this one song and it's an old song,
18:13 it was nothing that has really bad things
18:16 but it was such a thing that it just kept on my mind
18:20 and yes, whatever I was, even when I was praying,
18:26 this song was coming into my mind.
18:29 And so I said, "Oh, Lord, take this away from me,
18:33 you know, this is..."
18:34 But I found that every time it came into my mind,
18:39 I start singing a Christian song.
18:42 And in about five, six days,
18:45 then I realized that it was gone.
18:47 So instead of, like you say, concentrating on not to not...
18:52 I'm not gonna listen to that, I'm not going to...
18:55 Every time it came to my mind, I will sing a song
18:59 that, you know, praises to God about it.
19:02 And it finally went away but habits are so...
19:06 Are very easy to, especially bad habits.
19:09 Are very easy to creep in our lives...
19:13 That falls under something that I've been hearing
19:15 over and over lately which is, you cannot serve two masters.
19:20 You'll hate the one and love the other.
19:22 And it's just popping up all over my life.
19:26 And it's like, "See, see.
19:28 You can't serve two masters,
19:29 you really need to change these things."
19:31 And it's uncomfortable but I'm praising the Lord
19:34 that He is loving me enough to say,
19:36 "Hey, take care of this now."
19:39 You know, the Bible says,
19:41 "By beholding, we become change."
19:42 So it becomes a slippery slope
19:44 if you're just listening to bad music,
19:46 if you're watching bad movies,
19:48 if you're hanging around friends that have bad habits
19:51 and do, you know, things that they shouldn't be doing,
19:54 then you're going to change one way or the other, you know.
19:58 Everybody has an influence, everybody exerts an influence
20:02 whether it be positive or negative.
20:05 So if you're around negativity all day,
20:08 you're gonna put out negativity.
20:10 If you're taking in negative things constantly,
20:13 that's what's gonna come out.
20:15 It's just like your body, like if you're consuming
20:17 junk food all the time, junk is gonna come out.
20:21 It's gonna wear you down.
20:22 So unless you're filling your mind with the Word of God,
20:26 unless you're spending time developing a relationship
20:30 with Christ, unless you're spending time in church,
20:32 unless you're spending time with people
20:34 who are heavenly minded, then things are gonna
20:39 most likely move in that wrong direction.
20:43 You know, they also say that if you want to be successful,
20:46 if you wanna be a successful individual,
20:50 you spend time with people
20:52 who are more successful than you are.
20:55 You know, you don't spend time with people
20:56 who are five steps behind you
20:59 to get ten steps ahead, you know.
21:02 I mean, you spend time with people
21:05 who are doing something that in an area
21:07 where you want to go.
21:09 If you want to make it to heaven,
21:10 you got to spend time learning about Christ,
21:13 you have to spend time you know with the Pastor Murray
21:16 or something too that can you know
21:20 who's spiritual individual
21:25 and is gonna point you in that direction too.
21:27 You know, he's not gonna lead you to the bar
21:31 or anything like that.
21:33 You know, at this idea and Xenia mentioned it before,
21:35 she said it's not just the company you keep.
21:39 And it's not just the company you keep
21:40 but that's part of equation, you know.
21:43 It says, amid influence of the company they keep,
21:46 the association they form, I'm talking about young people,
21:49 the principles they adopt will be carried
21:51 with them through life.
21:53 The selection of friends and people that you just...
21:57 I mean, your close buddies, you know,
22:00 we all have a tight sphere of influence
22:02 then there is a lot, a wider circle
22:04 but those who, you spend a lot of time with
22:06 ought to be people who can lift you up.
22:09 And no more important decision
22:13 than the person that you're gonna spend your life with,
22:16 you know, that is...
22:17 All of us, well, we got one married, two married,
22:19 three married and then we got Jason,
22:21 looking to get married.
22:23 That's right. That's right.
22:25 I think we all agree.
22:28 There's no more important decision
22:30 than who you marry.
22:31 That can make you or break you, you know.
22:35 And you want someone who...
22:36 And they don't have to be a clone of you.
22:38 In fact, Ellen White kind of works against that
22:40 that you don't want the person
22:42 to totally lose their character in yours.
22:44 You want the person to be an individual
22:45 but you ought to be pulling the same way, you know,
22:47 pulling on the same team...
22:49 And equally yoked.
22:50 Working together, sure, and moving towards the Lord.
22:53 And of course there's no substitute
22:56 for individual time with the Lord.
23:00 I can't draft on Irma's spirituality,
23:02 she cannot draft on mine.
23:03 Jorge, you can't draft...
23:05 You want to create
23:07 a spiritual atmosphere around you
23:09 but there's no substitute for one on one with God
23:12 'cause you can't get away from that.
23:13 Character is not transferable. No.
23:15 You can't transfer a character.
23:18 It says here that we are our habits,
23:22 our habits make us who we are.
23:25 So we have to think about all that because
23:28 if we want to be in heaven, we need to be acting like
23:31 you were there.
23:33 Otherwise, we're not going to fit in.
23:35 Another...
23:36 Oh, go ahead. No, go.
23:38 Another interesting saying that I've heard before is,
23:40 you show me five of your closest friends
23:42 and I can show you who you are.
23:44 You know, if you're hanging around drug dealers all day,
23:49 more than likely you're probably using drugs
23:52 or you're selling it, you know what I mean,
23:55 either one so.
23:57 Or if you hang around spiritual people all day,
24:02 more than likely, you probably love the Lord too,
24:05 you know, it's one of those things.
24:07 And the Word of God give us so many counselings
24:12 on how to live and...
24:16 Also that we have to fight the good faith.
24:22 I like what's...
24:24 Reading recently in the letters of Paul to Timothy,
24:30 and Timothy was this young man.
24:32 And obviously was a Christian.
24:36 But Paul was giving him a lot of counsel
24:40 and a lot of encouragement.
24:44 And he was telling to him, "You got the keep in this line.
24:48 You got to keep on how do you, a young man keeps in following
24:55 What God wants, where God wants him to go.
25:00 It has to exercise the will.
25:03 You want to will, you cannot help anybody
25:07 that doesn't want to be helped
25:11 because you have to want to, and that's their will,
25:15 the will that God wants to put in us if we don't have it.
25:20 He wants to put us the will to do His will.
25:24 And that's why, you know, Sister White has encouraged us
25:29 to ask God to give us His will to replace it with His will.
25:35 It's interesting the Book of Psalms,
25:39 the first Psalm says something that's very interesting.
25:42 This is exactly what we're talking about.
25:44 And Psalm 1:1 and 2 says,
25:50 "Blessed is the one who does not walk,"
25:54 some version says blessed is the man but,
25:57 "Blessed is the one who does not walk in step
26:00 with the wicked
26:01 or stand in the way that sinners take
26:05 or sit in the company of mockers,
26:08 but who's delight is in the law of the Lord
26:13 and who meditates on his law day and night."
26:18 So it's a habit for that person to walk the walk
26:25 and not just talk the talk because that's very easy too.
26:30 We sometimes are, we're very good Christians
26:33 that do the talk
26:38 and well become sometimes professional stuff there,
26:41 the theory, but when it comes into putting into practice,
26:44 it's a different story.
26:46 Very, very true.
26:47 It says here, "Merely praying for this does not meet
26:52 the necessities of the case.
26:54 You must habituate the mind to concentration
26:59 upon spiritual things."
27:01 Yeah, I just put little dot there.
27:03 But merely praying, well, I'm praying, I'm praying,
27:05 I'm praying about it, I'm praying about it,
27:07 but I think that the question is
27:09 what happens after you finish praying?
27:11 Once you say amen, then what do you do
27:13 to sort of buttress you prayer?
27:15 Yeah. Yeah, you can't just...
27:18 That's like you saying, I want some money in my bank account,
27:22 I really want some money in my bank account,
27:25 but I'm not going to work for that, you know,
27:27 I'm not gonna go get a job.
27:29 I want some money, I want some money
27:31 but you got to get up and do.
27:32 We're to be co-labors with God not just...
27:34 God's not a genie.
27:37 I think, we are too used to,
27:40 and Christians are used to separate the action
27:47 from the desire to obtain something through actions.
27:51 It's like the action, like the act of getting things done
27:55 is not godly.
27:58 Many people will say, it's like a faith.
28:00 You have to win.
28:02 If you want something, let God do it for you.
28:04 That is not like that. It's just what you're saying.
28:07 If you want something, you got to work for it.
28:09 It's nothing wrong.
28:11 And Ellen White says in the prayer book
28:14 and I'm definitely paraphrasing this.
28:16 It's something along the lines that like, when you pray,
28:20 pray as though it were,
28:22 like if you're praying for deliverance,
28:26 believe that you've been delivered.
28:28 When you say amen, believe that you've been delivered.
28:31 You know without faith, it's impossible to please God.
28:33 You have to have faith.
28:34 If you are asking for something that is within God's will,
28:37 He's gonna grant that.
28:39 You know, if you're asking for something
28:41 that is in accordance to His will,
28:43 He's not gonna withhold any good thing
28:47 from those that serve Him
28:49 as long as it's in accordance to His will.
28:51 Yes. For His victory.
28:53 Amen.
28:54 There's story that this man wanted to quit drinking
28:58 so he would go and they will pray over him
29:00 at church to help him quit drinking,
29:03 then he would go home but he wouldn't throw
29:06 the liquor out, you know.
29:08 So why are you not...
29:10 Well, I might need it someday.
29:13 Where was his faith, you know, he really hadn't given it up.
29:17 Somehow he expected God to...
29:21 We do it, we do that all the time.
29:22 Exactly. Yes.
29:24 And that example is so...
29:30 repeated in our lives constantly.
29:33 We want to do something
29:35 then we go back to the same thing
29:37 because back in our minds...
29:40 I have it we had from before.
29:42 I wanna keep it there because I may go back sometime.
29:48 Yeah, that's what the Bible says,
29:49 make no provision for the flesh,
29:51 you know, I'm gonna keep that cigarette there
29:52 just in case, you know,
29:54 and if it's there, you're gonna smoke it
29:56 you know as long as it's there, you're gonna smoke it.
30:00 I was looking in Romans 14:23,
30:03 "But he who doubts is condemned
30:05 if he eats because he does not eat from faith."
30:07 This is eating and this is all whole thing
30:10 within the Book of Romans.
30:12 But the part that I really want is the last part.
30:14 For whatever is not from faith is sin.
30:17 So you got to start out with faith.
30:20 And even if you by with force of will
30:24 stop doing something, you get no credit for
30:28 because that action is as filthy rags.
30:31 It has to be done through Christ
30:33 and surrendered to Christ.
30:36 You know, if anybody who could do say,
30:38 if you could just become sinless without Christ
30:41 and Christ death is unnecessary.
30:43 So your victories must be gained through Christ.
30:47 And every victory that is not gained through Christ
30:50 is not really a victory
30:52 because it's not surrendered to Christ,
30:53 you know, it's not under the blood of Christ.
30:55 It's just...
30:56 it's like, it's...
30:58 What's it?
30:59 It's not change of heart, it's cosmetology,
31:03 you know, putting powder on your face
31:04 and make himself look nice but it's not inside.
31:06 The Bible says you're full of dead with bones.
31:08 So it's cosmetology.
31:10 It's covering it up that real face.
31:11 Yeah, it's covering up the real face.
31:13 Precisely, yeah.
31:14 It's basically a behavior or modification
31:15 instead of a genuine transformation.
31:18 Yes, very good.
31:19 It's interesting about the cosmetology
31:22 that you're talking about.
31:24 I was working in real estate for...
31:28 many times,
31:30 when this person is trying to sell a house
31:34 and they brush it here, brush it up.
31:38 And when the appraisal come and says,
31:39 "No, your house is valued this much."
31:42 Well, but I did all this.
31:44 And they will tell you, that's a cosmetic, addition.
31:50 It's cosmetic, you need cosmetic.
31:52 Exact, it's just cosmetic.
31:54 It doesn't add to the value.
31:59 They had a new bathroom.
32:01 Indeed, all houses has bathrooms,
32:04 he didn't do anything.
32:06 Now when somebody says,
32:08 "I build a new driveway with a nice fencer on,
32:12 that's different
32:13 because now I made and doing...
32:16 Make it an addition to safer the house,
32:19 convenience etcetera.
32:21 But it's an every day thing
32:25 like just painting here and there,
32:27 it doesn't make any difference like you just said.
32:31 I mean, the change has to be substantial,
32:33 something that you really.
32:35 Like Rustolene, you're painting over rust
32:37 but there's still rust under there.
32:40 Have structural damage foundation issues.
32:45 You said something, Jason, that touched me.
32:47 You said God is not a genie.
32:50 And I used to say that when I usually talk
32:52 that prayer's not a talisman.
32:56 When you say God is not a genie,
32:58 some people will just expect, let me just pray
32:59 and God will just pull it out of the hat.
33:02 I don't have to do anything for Him,
33:04 but He's got to do stuff for me.
33:08 And talisman is something that people wear some kind of amulet
33:11 that's supposed to ward off evil.
33:13 So we think, if I just pray,
33:14 it's a talisman it'll be just...
33:16 Everything will be fine.
33:17 Well, it's not that simple
33:19 and it's not that trite, you know.
33:22 The Lord demands
33:23 a certain amount of dedication to Him.
33:25 It is interesting that when we need God,
33:28 we want His full undivided attention.
33:32 But she's saying here that some of us had develop habits
33:35 where we give God so much
33:37 and we give the world so much and we think,
33:41 well, God's getting half.
33:42 Well, really He's not.
33:43 He's getting one percent
33:45 and you're giving the world 99.9 kind of thing.
33:48 So if we're going to grow in Him,
33:52 then we got to give Him the time.
33:53 There's no shortcut to faith
33:56 and nobody gets a scholarship on faith.
33:58 Everybody will have to exercise faith.
33:59 Nobody gets a pass.
34:00 Everybody's gonna have to do that, exercise faith.
34:02 Well, that's a miserable life.
34:04 I mean, you live in one foot in and one foot out,
34:07 you're not enjoying the best of either one.
34:08 You're not sinning
34:10 to the negative potential of sin
34:14 and you're not living up to all the blessings
34:17 that God wants to bestow upon you
34:19 but you're blocking them
34:21 because you got one foot in the world and foot in it.
34:24 That reminds where as certain time in my life
34:27 that I was living in a certain way in
34:32 but I couldn't enjoy it.
34:34 And it seems like every morning,
34:35 I was like, you know, why did I do that?
34:39 And one time I remembered, I just got so upset,
34:44 and I said, Lord,
34:45 why can't You just let me have fun for one time?
34:50 Like I said, and the Lord will never.
34:53 And thank God for that
34:56 because we don't know ourselves.
34:58 We don't know that
35:01 when we get in to do certain things,
35:04 we might get just really stuck in there
35:08 and then it's so much difficult for God
35:11 to get to side of there
35:12 because then our will is very weak to follow Christ.
35:18 And so, it's just what you said.
35:22 You cannot live one foot there and one foot here.
35:26 And Bible says...
35:27 Oh, I'm sorry.
35:28 God has one way, one all the way to Christ.
35:34 And a double-minded man is unstable in all his ways.
35:38 Yes.
35:40 The line here,
35:41 this piece that you're talking about, Irma,
35:43 many professed Christians
35:45 are on a fairway to lose both worlds.
35:49 So you can be miserable here and then miss heaven too.
35:52 That's kind of sad.
35:55 You know, didn't have any fun here
35:56 because you're trying to carry passports
35:58 in two worlds.
36:00 And then you don't make it to heaven either
36:03 because you're half step in.
36:04 You got to give Him all and develop those habits
36:07 that will mitigate in favor of that.
36:09 On that same note, you know,
36:11 there are some people
36:12 that are your holier-than-thou Christians or Pharisees
36:18 if you will that will say,
36:21 point out everything that they think
36:24 that you're doing wrong
36:25 and that you should be convicted on
36:27 because they're convicted on you know this, that
36:30 and the third that may not even be a salvational issue.
36:34 And then they do it in a manner that's not even loving,
36:38 you know, and wonder why people don't,
36:40 so you have somebody who doesn't know the Lord
36:43 who's trying to get to know the Lord
36:45 and they're trying to take the place of a Holy Spirit
36:48 with that conviction thing like,
36:50 well, why is he wearing this to church,
36:52 why is he dressed like that.
36:55 And you're not even introducing them
36:57 to Christ at all.
36:58 You're just worried about the outward appearance
37:00 at the moment.
37:03 You know, that same person,
37:04 how this is saying one foot in one foot out,
37:07 you're running the risk of missing out
37:10 or losing both worlds
37:13 by not having the love of Christ,
37:15 if you just have the law or you just have,
37:17 you know, all these guidelines or whatever,
37:21 you run the risk of missing out as well you know.
37:25 It's sad to see people lack one of them,
37:30 one of the most important things
37:32 which is Christ's love too.
37:36 People don't respond very well
37:38 when you push the issues on them
37:41 because it has to come
37:43 from the Holy Spirit has to convey
37:45 and convict the person
37:47 to make a change in their lives.
37:49 And so you can point it out
37:51 or you can encourage it or whatever
37:54 but until the person makes a decision
37:57 that and they're convicted of that
37:59 that's something they want to follow,
38:00 they're not going to do it,
38:02 just like somebody that has a habit.
38:04 They're not going to ask for help in any way
38:08 until they realize they need to change.
38:10 Yeah.
38:12 I mean...
38:13 Like God has a standard.
38:15 We know that, you know, God definitely has a standard.
38:17 And He will help us meet His standard
38:22 like He doesn't just leave and say, okay,
38:24 this is my standard and that's that.
38:27 You know, if we go back to creation
38:28 and we look at creation
38:30 how He created man on the sixth day,
38:33 He had everything that we needed.
38:36 We just had to manage what He provided like where...
38:40 He creates and sustains.
38:43 You know, so He's not going to leave us in a position
38:48 where we can't meet what He has set forth.
38:51 Yeah, sometimes we struggle with things
38:53 and we don't think we would be used.
38:57 Can't imagine that the Lord can help us to change
39:01 but He does.
39:03 And if we look in our life in the past,
39:07 we can point to many things
39:10 that we thought we could not give up,
39:13 or we could not achieve.
39:16 And yet we did, but we didn't do it
39:21 until we surrender that to the Lord and trusted Him.
39:26 So that He could change it.
39:28 Another thing, I'm sorry,
39:29 another thing that I, in this discussion,
39:33 I think is important to address
39:35 is that we're not...
39:40 I hope this is not heresy,
39:42 but we're not looking for perfection
39:48 in the human sense of the word.
39:51 Because perfections and perfectionist
39:54 sometimes are more in the wrong
39:59 that a person who's trying to do the right thing.
40:02 I think the perfection
40:05 before the eyes of God is different.
40:08 God see us the way that we have,
40:11 the point that we have reached in our Christian experience
40:15 is perfect for Him
40:17 if we're sincere and sincerely looking for to meet
40:22 whatever He wants us to meet, that's perfection.
40:27 For me, perfection for instance,
40:29 I always have this little example in my mind
40:31 that help me sometimes.
40:34 When I was born, my brother was 10 years old.
40:37 So my brother was 100 percent my age, right.
40:43 Yes, I was zero.
40:44 I was just out of my mother's womb
40:46 and he was 100 percent my age but then when he was 20,
40:51 I was 10, if you think, 50 percent of what...
40:57 Okay. It's not theology, I told you.
41:01 But it helps me do understand how God look at me.
41:07 At zero, I was prefect
41:11 and my brother at 10 was perfect.
41:14 Obviously going back now to that discussion
41:18 to the spiritual battle on this,
41:20 it's a spiritual life,
41:24 we get to the point that we reach
41:27 certain degree of perfection
41:30 but it's not the perfection that the world sees,
41:33 you have to be perfect in every way,
41:37 then you are good.
41:38 No, God look at perfection from a different perspective
41:42 and that's what I think we need the focus on.
41:45 Sometimes we're too harsh on people
41:48 and says, oh, like you were saying,
41:50 "If you don't dress like this or do this
41:52 and that and keep this and that,"
41:54 that people haven't reached to that point yet
41:57 but they're still perfect.
42:00 I don't know what. That's great.
42:01 And I mean...
42:03 And imagine if God just put everything on us at once,
42:07 okay, go be the perfect Christian.
42:09 You know, just everything...
42:11 You know how overwhelming that would be?
42:12 Pastor Murray, when you met Miss Irma here,
42:16 did you just automatically do everything that she liked?
42:20 Was that habit to do everything that she liked?
42:23 Yes.
42:27 Don't worry, I got an exhibitor in my house that's on.
42:32 Well, I gave it a try.
42:34 I surely did. I surely did.
42:37 He did. Still trying.
42:38 But you had to know what she liked first.
42:40 Precisely, right.
42:41 So you have to be introduced.
42:43 The same way, people have to be introduced to Christ
42:48 to know what things He likes,
42:50 to know, you know, what things He's looking for.
42:54 You know, you have to develop
42:55 and cultivate that relationship.
42:58 But, you know, you don't just automatically come.
43:03 And as humans, I think sometimes
43:06 we can be so harsh on people
43:07 coming into the church
43:10 expecting them to do everything perfectly
43:13 as they're coming in.
43:14 And we're not showing the love of Christ to them
43:19 and bringing them in and introducing them to Jesus.
43:24 Well, David is the perfect example
43:25 when he was going to face the Goliath.
43:30 The King Saul put it all his armor
43:33 because that would make him a perfect soldier.
43:36 He had everything he needed, right?
43:39 What David did?
43:43 He said, sir, I don't...
43:44 Please.
43:46 I rather just go the way I'm in.
43:48 Put my little sling and round and round and round
43:55 and you know the rest of the story.
43:57 But you know, I think that it give us an example
44:01 how God look at us an imperfect person
44:08 and make him perfect because of His grace.
44:11 You know, I think and we sort of slipped into this little bit
44:13 but that's the whole justification,
44:15 sanctification process.
44:17 Christ calls us to be perfect.
44:20 He gives us through the power of the Holy Spirit
44:23 and ministry of angels
44:24 the ability to move into perfection,
44:27 to be perfecting.
44:29 Meanwhile, through the justification process,
44:31 He sees us as perfect
44:33 which is a really great thing
44:34 so that if I come to the Lord today
44:38 in sincerity and die tomorrow, I've been justified and saved.
44:45 And there may be another person
44:47 who's been in the church 40 years,
44:51 he's had longer time with Jesus
44:53 but Christ sees me in my baby perfect state
44:57 as He does that longtime person in their perfect state
45:02 because of the justification process.
45:04 Now obviously that person has been in the church longer,
45:08 has fought more battles and is further along than I am
45:13 but through justification
45:15 I get the same heaven as that person does,
45:17 I get the same reward as that person does.
45:20 You know the story of Matthew.
45:21 If one comes in the morning at 6 o'clock,
45:25 one comes at 11 o'clock,
45:26 one comes at 11 o'clock just before,
45:27 everybody get the same penny,
45:29 you know, everybody gets the same,
45:30 and that's through justification.
45:31 Yeah. That's right.
45:33 Because Christ says, "When you come to Me,
45:34 I accept you and view you as a completed work
45:38 while I'm making you a completed work.
45:39 Whether it's three hours on the cross
45:41 next to Jesus or a lifetime, you still get the same penny.
45:46 And that's the goodness of the God
45:49 that we serve that He allows that to happen in our lives.
45:52 Right.
45:53 In the same parable,
45:55 you see the other side, the man side.
45:59 When they complain, he says, "Hey, but I worked for you."
46:03 Right, witnessing all day, right, yeah.
46:05 So that's the human perspective.
46:07 "I did everything right, hey, I deserve."
46:10 Deserve more.
46:12 Yeah, I deserve more.
46:13 That was like the prodigal son's brother.
46:16 You know, I was here, I didn't go anywhere.
46:20 Yeah, I never got a party.
46:24 You know, it occurs to me that people who say themselves,
46:26 say they are perfectionist,
46:28 I don't know if I've ever met a happy perfectionist.
46:31 They're always mad, you know,
46:33 like nobody can meet my standards.
46:36 And I say this to Irma,
46:38 I think a person who says I'm a perfectionist
46:40 is just egotistical enough to think
46:42 that they know what perfection is, you know.
46:45 To say that you know
46:46 what perfection is a very egotistical statement.
46:50 Most people who are perfectionists
46:51 are saying really, I wanted the way I want it.
46:55 And when it meets my standards, then it is perfection.
46:59 Well, how do you know, that's just way you like,
47:00 that don't mean it's perfect.
47:02 That's what you like. You know, I may like it over here.
47:04 Well, no, I like him, this is perfect right there.
47:08 That's perfect. Well, for you!
47:11 For me, over here is perfect, you know.
47:13 So we can get in and say, no, my idea of perfection,
47:16 your idea of perfection,
47:18 yet Christ defines what perfection is
47:20 and it's perfect love,
47:21 perfect love for Jesus that result in a changed life.
47:24 Yeah, because it says that you can do all of these things
47:27 very well done but if you don't have love,
47:32 you have done nothing.
47:33 You're making noise. Making noise.
47:37 You are making noise.
47:39 Yeah, God's Word is truly the standard.
47:44 The mind must be educated and disciplined
47:47 to love purity, you know.
47:51 And that includes a lot of things we watch on TV
47:53 and a lot of things that we do.
47:55 A love for spiritual things should be encouraged.
47:59 Ye must be encouraged if we had grown in grace
48:04 and in the knowledge of the truth,
48:07 you've got to, at homes, Sebastian is...
48:12 He's nine.
48:13 He's nine and Novella is...
48:15 Is 12. Is 12.
48:18 Lovely children, not angels because they are no angels.
48:22 But pretty good, pretty close to angels.
48:24 Really, really good. Pretty simple children.
48:28 You have to encourage them in the right way,
48:30 you got to direct them, you got to educate them.
48:33 Sure. Yeah. Train them, absolutely.
48:37 Yours is grown now and teaching.
48:39 Yes.
48:42 But I'm sure there were times when you had to try to...
48:44 They have wills and you got to try to correct that little,
48:47 you know, you got to kind of bend it
48:49 so that it's following Jesus.
48:51 That comes with parenting.
48:53 I tell you not to contradict what you said,
48:56 we have four at home.
48:58 But to continue with the comparison,
49:01 two needs probably a lot more, you know...
49:06 They need fulltime hands on.
49:08 And the other two are grown up so...
49:10 You have to pray for now.
49:12 We pray for them, that's all what we can do.
49:14 They will sometimes stress us more than the little ones.
49:19 Because now you can't be that net,
49:21 you know, trying to educate them.
49:23 They make their own decisions.
49:26 We just pray that the Lord would guide them.
49:28 You know, when I was in California this last time
49:30 that I was visiting and Asher got baptized.
49:34 They got visiting grands.
49:37 The grands. Yeah, the visiting grands.
49:39 And then the kids too. And the kids too, yeah.
49:41 And their spouses.
49:43 But he got baptized
49:46 and so afterwards he says to me,
49:48 he says, "That made me cry."
49:52 He says that when he was doing.
49:54 But Jill had been there to do a seminar...
49:59 Morikone.
50:00 Yes, Jill Morikone.
50:02 And so she ask everybody if they would write something
50:06 that they want God to change in their lives.
50:10 So Asher, he wrote. He was sitting next to me.
50:14 And he wrote and he just kind of giggled
50:16 and he looked at me.
50:18 He giggles and he wrote
50:19 and I said, "Why are you giggling?"
50:22 He says, "I have to ask God,"
50:25 he says, "to help my,"
50:30 how did you say to...
50:33 kind of my reactions.
50:35 Impulses.
50:36 Impulses. Yes. Self control.
50:39 So I said, "Really?"
50:41 "Yeah," he says, "I know,"
50:42 he says, "that I react very fast."
50:46 And he is the calmest and the more
50:49 you know easy going of all of them
50:53 but the other ones especially the little one,
50:56 Niani is so strong and so will.
51:00 And so Asher sometimes he just, it's overwhelm,
51:05 so he just you know, he's trying to go against that.
51:11 But he recognized that...
51:14 Now, why would children recognize?
51:17 Because the parents are guiding them
51:18 and trying to educate them how they need to be.
51:23 So if you don't do that, children would not learn,
51:26 you know, they'll just grow like little animals.
51:30 And he opened his heart to the Lord.
51:32 And the Holy Spirit corrected him
51:35 that he needed to change there.
51:38 And it's what we do when he hear that voice
51:42 that makes the difference because if we don't learn to,
51:45 if we always shut it down and you know it's like,
51:47 "Oh, yeah.
51:49 But maybe it wasn't anything."
51:51 So you keep going.
51:52 Pretty soon you learn to shut it out altogether.
51:55 You don't hear anymore.
51:57 So you need to learn to hear that voice
52:00 when you're convicted or something is
52:02 because God's trying to point out
52:04 where you need to change to create a new habit.
52:08 Isn't it interesting that she says
52:10 the mind must be educated and disciplined to love purity.
52:15 One would almost hope and pray
52:16 that that would be the natural inclination of the man
52:18 but it is not.
52:20 You know, it is not.
52:21 You have to discipline yourself...
52:22 You know, the Bible says to continually towards evil.
52:26 Towards evil, yes.
52:28 Yeah. You got to be work at loving purity.
52:32 And even the young people,
52:33 you got to teach them to work at,
52:37 and encourage them to love purity.
52:39 I don't know not having
52:44 had natural children
52:48 where the balance is.
52:50 I have such great respect, one for teachers, educators
52:54 because I've taught and I've taught high school,
52:58 I've taught college.
52:59 I can do that.
53:00 I can do first grade, second grade, set them.
53:03 Okay. I can do that.
53:04 That's a special gift.
53:08 First you've got to get their attention
53:09 before you can impart knowledge.
53:11 And that whole warden thing, I can't, I don't do that work
53:15 so I have great respect for parents
53:16 who have the respect of their children
53:18 as well as their love because it's a balance.
53:21 You can't be their buddy,
53:22 you know, you got to be their parent.
53:24 But at the same time, you can't be their jailer,
53:28 you know, you got to be their parent.
53:30 So that balance is a marvelous thing
53:33 and some people...
53:34 We were saying it before,
53:35 some people are excellent parents.
53:37 Some parents don't have that skill set,
53:40 you know, but they have children.
53:41 So it's a great thing they will educate your children
53:45 to love purity without holding it over them like a whip,
53:48 you know, it's a tough thing.
53:50 And it's hard because you want to protect your children
53:54 but the Bible says we need to learn to live in the world.
53:59 So we need to teach them to live in the world
54:02 that we live, you know, like our neighbors,
54:04 our friends, the people around us.
54:07 The things that are happening in the world,
54:09 we need to learn to teach them how to live there.
54:12 To be in it but not of it.
54:13 Exactly, exactly.
54:15 And if we isolate them ourselves,
54:17 or we create this little cocoon,
54:20 sooner or later they're gonna come out.
54:22 And they won't know what to do with it.
54:23 They will be totally unprepared.
54:25 And the things that you don't teach them at home,
54:28 they're gonna learn in the streets.
54:30 So do you want them to learn the way from the Bible
54:34 or do you want them to learn what the world has?
54:36 Yeah, 'cause they're gonna learn.
54:38 I'll tell you a quick story.
54:40 Years ago,
54:41 Pastor Wintley Phipps and I were doing a wedding.
54:43 And we were at the wedding rehearsal
54:44 which is at a big marina on Saturday night
54:47 where it's gonna be Sunday.
54:49 And this is gorgeous marina boats
54:50 bobbing in the water.
54:52 And I have another pastor friend
54:55 who had a son who was, and Irma knows,
54:57 who was the most out of control,
54:59 unctuous in your face, rude little boy.
55:02 And he's turned out to be a pretty good adult
55:04 but he was just beyond belief, just beyond belief.
55:09 And so the wedding planner said
55:11 she had a little bell, she'd go ding, ding, ding.
55:13 Everybody, your attention. Please stop talking.
55:15 We're ready to start the rehearsal.
55:17 And this little boy said to his mother,
55:22 "Mommy, shut up.
55:23 Didn't you hear the woman say it's time to be quiet.
55:26 Shut up, mommy."
55:28 Now, Wintley Phipps' wife was there
55:31 and her little boy was sitting at attention.
55:34 And she saw her son watching this boy.
55:37 And immediately, she grabbed her son by the head
55:40 and she said,
55:42 "Now you would never say that to your mommy, would you?"
55:44 He said, "No, mommy."
55:46 So she cut that off before it ever enter into your brain,
55:52 we will cut that off now.
55:53 That was the preemptive strike, you know.
55:57 So he says, no mommy.
55:59 She saw her boy watching that child
56:02 and so she got him right away.
56:04 "You would never."
56:05 "No, mommy, I would never kind of thing."
56:08 And I told Wintley about that
56:09 and his wife just the other day asked.
56:11 And that was almost 20, 25 years ago.
56:14 But I saw you cut something off before it ever began to bloom,
56:18 you know, kind of thing.
56:20 And that's parenting, you know,
56:22 teaching your children to love right
56:23 and to live purity and to respect you.
56:26 I think that's a great thing.
56:29 Yes.
56:30 We're coming down to the end.
56:31 I want to look at this last line.
56:35 Blessed are they who hunger and thirst
56:37 after righteousness for they shall be filled.
56:40 Ellen White says here,
56:42 "Ample provisions are made by Christ
56:45 to satisfy the soul
56:48 that hungers and thirsts for righteousness.
56:52 So if you want righteousness,
56:54 you can indeed have and will have righteousness.
56:59 You can be like Christ if you dedicate our mind,
57:03 your heart, your talent, and your life to Jesus,
57:06 and if you want to make heaven your goal,
57:09 then heaven you shall have.
57:11 If you hunger and thirst for it,
57:13 for Christ has made ample provision
57:16 for you to have what you want,
57:18 for you to have all eternity with Jesus Christ.
57:20 I want to thank my guests.
57:22 Our guest, Boo for being with us,
57:24 Lynnette, and Jorge, and Jason, and Xenia,
57:29 I always thought that was a beautiful name, Xenia.
57:31 Yeah, when you say Xenia,
57:32 you only get one person saying here.
57:35 God bless you. We'll be back. We will see you again.
57:37 Have a wonderful Sabbath and a wonderful week in Jesus.


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