I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words Let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello and welcome
to Family Worship.
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What time is it, honey?
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It's Sabbath. Happy Sabbath.
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Yes. Happy Sabbath.
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Thank you for allowing
us to come in your home.
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Whenever we can get together,
the family get together
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it's the time to put our
lives in the Lord's hands.
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And I'm glad that
my captain is with me
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or my shipmate or my better half
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which makes me
the fortunate half
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or the blessed half.
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That's what I feel about you.
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Oh, wow.
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We're just loving each other
at the beginning of the program
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and all the time.
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But thank you for
taken the time to tune in.
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Get your Bibles,
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invite your family
if you're by yourself,
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that's okay.
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If you're at
church, that's also okay.
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We're gonna talk
about baptism today.
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Yeah, that's good.
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Baptism in so many forms
but before we do any of that,
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we're gonna have prayer
after we introduce our panel.
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And I'm so glad to have
with us today who we have.
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I'll start to my far right
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and I'll let you
introduce yourself
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and even the lady
that might be next to you.
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Well, thank you.
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Well, my name is John Dinzey,
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and I had the privilege
of being here since 1989.
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And came alone
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but God blessed me
with my wife Idalia.
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Married in 1994
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and I have the
privilege of working
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for 3ABN Latino
as a general manager.
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Idalia, administrative assistant
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and we both wear other
hats of course as well.
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And she's a wonderful mother
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and you both are mom and
dad of two wonderful children.
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Amen.
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The Lord has blessed
our family with two boys
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and blessed as we
answered his calling
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to come to ministry,
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never imagine working
in ministry in my life.
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But praise the Lord for 3ABN.
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And we love working here.
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Okay. Thank you
for being here today.
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And, honey, who do I
have to our far left.
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Let's just start
with the young man
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to the outside left.
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My name is Donald
and I've been here maybe,
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let see, three and half,
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three years going
on four years soon.
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My wife's
Janelle who is not here
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but she also works in
the publishing department.
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And I do a lot of
things, I wear many hats too.
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Sometimes I run camera here
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but more than
anything I do a lot of events
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in the community and also
work for personal ministries
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at the Thompsonville
Seventh-day Adventist Church.
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And we also lead out an
addiction recovery group
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which had been running
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for the last two
or two and half years.
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So we're just
really trying to get,
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in the community get
involved with community,
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get churches on fire just
do what we can for the Lord so.
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Amen. Good to
have you here, Donald.
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It's been awesome.
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And a man who is often quiet
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but we've pulled him
out of the carpet today.
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My name is Jonathan Bab.
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I am the manager
of the call center
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and I've been
here 11, 12 years now,
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I can't keep track,
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not all that time working here.
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But, and, of course, we
all wear many hats around here
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and can't keep track
of all that we always do.
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Okay.
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And you're also the head deacon
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for the
Thompsonville Adventist Church.
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Yeah, it's true.
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A single young man.
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We're trying to change that.
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We praise the Lord for your
dedication and your commitment.
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And all of you, and we
also love Idalia's cooking.
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And I don't get that, but today
we're gonna spend some time
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in the Word of God
and we're gonna pray
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and we're gonna sing,
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and then we're gonna
go into our topic today.
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So, honey, would you
begin with prayer today?
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Sure. Let's bow our heads.
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Our loving, kind,
gracious Heavenly Father,
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we bow before Your
presence this Sabbath evening.
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And, Lord, we
praise You and honor You,
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You are so worthy of praise.
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And, Lord, we ask
that Your Holy Spirit
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will come right now
and be with us, guide us,
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give us the
wisdom and understanding
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that we need.
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We pray for the
baptism of the Holy Spirit
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in our lives.
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And we thank You for each person
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that's viewing this broadcast.
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May they be blessed
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and may they make a
change in their lives
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if they have not changed.
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So, Lord, we thank You
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and we just pray
continually a blessing upon us.
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And we look
forward to seeing You
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on that great and glorious day,
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may we be faithful
in Jesus' name, amen.
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Amen. Amen.
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You know,
oftentimes when we sing,
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the person behind
the scenes on the piano
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doesn't get recognition
but we have Summer Boyd
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who is gonna be
playing for us today.
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And we're gonna sing the song
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which we would
like you to join us,
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524 in your hymnal,
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"'Tis so sweet
to trust you Jesus."
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First and last stanza.
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'Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus
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Just to take Him at His Word
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Just to rest upon His promise
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Just to know,
"Thus sayeth the Lord"
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Jesus, Jesus, how I trust Him
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How I've proved
Him o'er and o'er
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Jesus, Jesus, precious Jesus!
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O for grace to trust Him more
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I'm so glad.
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I'm so glad I
learned to trust Thee
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Precious Jesus, Savior, Friend
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And I know that Thou art with me
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Wilt be with me till the end
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Jesus, Jesus, how I trust Him
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How I've proved
Him o'er and o'er
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Jesus, Jesus, precious Jesus!
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O for grace to trust Him more!
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Amen.
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Amen. Amen.
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And you know the topic
we're talking about today
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really requires a lot of trust.
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That's right.
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We're talking about baptism,
and baptism is something
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that is
intended to transition us
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from one place to another.
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It is in fact
reminded me years ago,
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we were in Zimbabwe
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and on the other side
of the bridge was Zambia.
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And baptism is that
bridge between who we were
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and who we can
become in Jesus Christ.
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But as we were
suggested and I must say, Tita,
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I call her Tita affectionately
but Idalia Dinzey would say,
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what should we talk
about, and she goes, you know,
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let's talk about baptism
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because it's a
topic that is so broad
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yet we could narrow it down.
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And what we're gonna also talk
about today in this topic is
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the appropriate age for baptism,
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various kinds of
baptism, the mode of baptism,
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baptism of the water,
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baptism of the Spirit
as my wife reminded me up,
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and baptism of fire,
what does all that mean?
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And why baptism is so
necessary for every one of us
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who are looking
forward to the coming of Jesus?
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Now we have a launch text,
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I like all of
us to read together
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in the very
beginning of our syllabus.
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And if you have your
Bible, go to John 3:5
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and we're gonna peek
in on the conversation
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that Jesus had with Nicodemus.
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All right, John 3:5,
let's read this together.
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"Jesus answered, 'Most
assuredly I say to you,
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unless one is born
of water and the Spirit,
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he cannot enter
the kingdom of God.'"
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Let's start with baptism,
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talking about
entering the Kingdom of God,
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water and Spirit.
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Now baptism is in
fact beginning again.
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Now I'm gonna not
necessarily call on us
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to respond to this
text in various ways,
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but let me just
open it up right now
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and receive from each of you
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your view as to why
baptism is necessary.
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And I'll start with
Pastor Dinzey to my right here.
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You know, I
used to say to people
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that if we must be born
again there was something wrong
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with the way we were born.
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That's true.
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But being born again,
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it's, I like the language
of the idea of being born again
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because that means
that you're starting over.
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And I think everyone
can look back and say,
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"You know, I
have done some things
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that I rather not even
say or even think about."
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And so it is an opportunity
to begin anew and we think of,
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you know,
sometimes you describe this,
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you get a blank sheet of paper,
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everything that was
part of your history before
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it's gone and
you're starting fresh.
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Amen.
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And so it's part of what is
written in 2 Corinthians 5:17.
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Which says, "If
anyone is in Christ,
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he is a new creature,
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old things have
passed away, behold,
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all things have become new."
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I was thinking of
several scriptures
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how I started this,
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but that's the
beauty of being a Christian.
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Your old life is gone
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and your new
life begins in Christ.
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So baptism is important
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because it brings you
into a relationship with God.
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And you know
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when you graduate
from eighth grade,
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high school or
college, you get a diploma.
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And what it is,
it's a piece of paper
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that says what
you have accomplished.
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But when you're
a baptized again,
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you become a new creature
but God says you are His son.
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So you have changed
your position from a...
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As it says, as I
saw written here,
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"You are heading to
death, now you have life."
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Amen. That's right.
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That's right.
Thank you for that.
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Pastor, I think it's a gesture
of commitment and conviction.
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You know, I love the Lord,
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I want to give
my life to the Lord
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is an act of
putting yourself aside
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and say, I want
to live for Christ.
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And, of course,
when, even baptisms,
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let's say if there is a
baptism at your church tomorrow,
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it's just not a ritual.
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I mean they are such a blessing
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in watching a
baptism and special ceremony,
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you know, the special
songs, special prayers.
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Oh, bless my heart all together.
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And I'm like, "Oh, Lord, I
want to start all over again,
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I was not perfect, you
know, no one's perfect.
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But I'm not where
I would love to be.
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So, but through Christ,
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you know, I
want my old self gone
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and I want to live
that new life in Christ.
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So to me baptism is such
an intimate serious decision
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that I have made
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because of my love for
the Lord to follow Jesus.
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When Jesus was
baptized, He was perfect.
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All right. That's right.
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That's right.
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And He did that as an example
for us, baptism, you said it,
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both of you said it
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is a very
intimate and meaningful.
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It's not just a symbol,
it's more than a symbol,
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it's your
commitment to the Lord.
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That's right, honey.
What about your baptism?
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I know you just
made some comments
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based on what
the Dinzeys mentioned
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but baptism to you.
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Baptism is the burial
of my old self, the old me,
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my past and coming up
in the newness of life,
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giving my all to the
Lord, it's what you said it,
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it's getting rid of the
old and coming up in the new.
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And it's something
that is so important.
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So many people out there
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don't understand what baptism is
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'cause so many
people were sprinkled.
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And they call
that baptism, correct,
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they call that
baptism as a baby.
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But Jesus' way of being
baptized is the right way,
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it's the only way actually
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'cause He's our perfect example.
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But baptism is,
Tita said it's intimate,
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you just described
everything I was going to say.
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You know, it's the intimate,
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meaningful commitment
between you and the Lord.
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Conscious commitment.
Conscious commitment.
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Exactly, exactly,
you must be born again.
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Pastor Dinzey
was saying that too.
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And that's the way I
see it as being baptized.
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Okay. Jonathan?
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You know baptism
is so many things,
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it's everything that
we've mentioned so far.
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And it's not just an inward,
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you know mean so
much for intimate thing
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but it's also
the outward showing,
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you're proclaiming to everybody
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that sees it and knows it
that you're consciously choosing
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to be a citizen
of God's Kingdom.
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You know, if you
know being born in the US,
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I'm a citizen of the US,
but if I go to another country,
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I'd have to choose if I
want to become a citizen.
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And you get, you go
through all the steps in there.
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Well, that baptism is that
you're signifying to yourself
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as well to everybody else
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that I'm now a
citizen of the Kingdom of God.
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Amen. Amen.
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Donald?
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I was gonna say, for me baptism
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just coming from a
recovery background,
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it's so amazing that
God can take and heal us,
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that healing to
me is a huge thing,
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a transformation, you
know, that's what's huge.
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And when you see God
really chiseling at your heart,
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you want, you
want to be baptized,
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you want to do what the
Lord has called you to do
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and that is to be baptized,
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immersed in water and
be brought to new life.
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But for me it's
an inward expression
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what's already going on like in,
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when we do recovery
always talk about admitting
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that something is wrong.
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We always admit
something is wrong.
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There's sin in our life
that we want to rid of it.
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So we, if Lord can only give
us that strength to recover,
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I know for myself personally,
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you know, what
I've been through,
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but the Lord is the
one who's transformed me,
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I can't do what's in this heart,
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I can't fix this
heart but He can.
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That's that baptism
already beginning in the heart
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and we just express
it from the outside.
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But it's a
decision that you took.
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Yeah, exactly, decisions...
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Yeah, it's the
decision that we all make.
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And knowing that He's
healing you, it's huge,
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it's like, for me it's a
big thing the healing aspect.
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And I like, you know,
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Tita is bringing out
a conscious decision.
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You can't just
go through baptism
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as a means of bide
of joining a church.
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Oftentimes people say,
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what does it take to
become a member of your church.
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Well, membership and
new life are not synonymous.
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Membership, you know, you
can be a member of a club,
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a member of a gym, a
member of a health spa,
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but it doesn't mean
that you're healthy.
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I mean you start a
process in the very same way.
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When you are baptized,
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you know on the flipside of that
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it doesn't make
sense to be baptized
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and not become a
member of the fellowship
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of the body of Christ.
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Some people say, I
want to be baptized,
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but I don't want
to join the church.
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Well, it's like
being a football player
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and you want to
play by yourself.
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It's not possible.
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The Lord has
called us into fellowship
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and the Bible says
in the Book of Acts,
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the Lord added
to the church daily
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such as we're being saved.
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And that salvation aspect
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was they were being
baptized into Christ
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but not only into Christ,
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he says, teach them
to observe all things
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I command you.
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But there's a
mysterious side to baptism,
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and I want to look
at this question here
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that we poised.
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But any other
thoughts that came to your mind
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just on what I said.
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Yeah, I like what
Jonathan said about citizenship
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'cause I became a citizen,
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I became a
citizen several years ago
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into the United States
because I was born in England.
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And I had to give up everything,
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my English passport, everything
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and be sworn in as a
citizen of United States.
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I remember that very
well. You were with me.
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We went to San Francisco
and we went to the Presidio.
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And, John, we all assumed
that pastor was with you.
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You guys are always
together, praise the Lord.
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That's right. We did
a big old celebration.
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We had red, white and
blue out of the house.
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Yeah, yeah, and
that was our celebration
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and this is our commitment,
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my commitment to
the United States
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and as well said
Jonathan about the citizenship.
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Now I'm a citizen
of the Kingdom of God
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and we all are.
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That's a very good...
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That's a good example because
we still have these pictures
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and she has the
naturalization papers
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in the passport
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and now when you travel this is,
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but still this is amazing.
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But when we are on the plane
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and you fill
out the customs form
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or the entry form, they said,
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"What was your
country of birth?"
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And she always puts England.
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What is your
country of citizenship?
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The United States of America.
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See, so we're born one way
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but the Lord brings us
into another fellowship,
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we are citizens
of the Most High God.
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And when I go to
England at the passport,
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when you go through you
know what do you call that?
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Customs. Customs.
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They always look at
it and say immigration,
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welcome home 'cause
it says I was born in...
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They always say welcome home
and that's how it's gonna be
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when we go to heaven,
He's gonna say, welcome home.
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Good. That's so exciting.
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You know, it's interesting
as we talk about baptism
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and we're gonna talk about
how it occurs and what it is.
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But the text
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that we launched
which is John 3:5 it says,
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you must be born of
water and the Spirit.
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This is why we have to
understand that there is,
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it's just not that,
"Oh, you recognize your sin."
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"Yes, I do.
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And I want to be
baptized." Wonderful.
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And the person gets
baptized and gets wet only
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because there is no change
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because the person was looking
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to receive
something to feel better.
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But you must be
baptized of water and the spirit
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because you have to
walk in newness of life.
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So it's not that
you're coming in for medicine
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and then you go back
to because, you know,
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it's interesting I've
heard of different medicines
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that people have trouble
with certain types of food
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and they drink something,
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so they don't have the reaction.
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Oh, yeah.
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God wants to
transform those changes.
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We are to walk
in newness of life
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when we accept Him and this is,
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and God is trying to
help us understand that,
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because baptism is
supposed to be a death
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to the old way of life,
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so that you can
walk in newness of life.
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You know,
there's a resurrection,
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you are born again, not
to live as you used to live
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but to live in newness of life.
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And I want to
point out something that
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this new life that you get,
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it is not a second chance to do
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what you couldn't
do the first time.
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Lot of times,
you'll say, okay, okay,
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now that I'm a
member of the church,
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now that I'm a Christian, okay,
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I got all these
things to give up,
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I got all these
things to get right,
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I got all these things.
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Because baptism in fact,
I'm glad you pointed this out
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about spirit side.
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Baptism recognizes
a turn in your life,
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you know, and lot of
people don't repent of anything.
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They just become, they
accept all the 28 fundamentals
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as it is in the
Adventist fellowship.
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And they agree with
them all and they say, yes,
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I want to become a member,
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yes, I want to begin a new life.
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But I want to just point this,
you have to repent of something
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because when the
question was asked
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on the day of Pentecost,
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"What shall we do to be saved?"
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Peter said,
"Repent and be baptized
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that your sins
may be blotted out."
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When the time of
refreshing comes.
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So I want to
just point this out,
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examine your life to find
out what needs to be removed,
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repenting of it, acknowledges
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that you, yes,
are guilty of that.
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But you know what, even
if you were not this criminal
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as far as your
old life is concerned,
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the major reason for baptism
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is not that you
are a good person.
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Because I want to
look at Romans 3:23.
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Let's look at this because
baptism is not for people
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that just are bad people
00:21:00.32\00:21:02.26
but baptism acknowledges
00:21:02.29\00:21:03.63
that we were born a certain way.
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I was just gonna ask, you know,
00:21:05.03\00:21:06.36
the question came in my mind is,
00:21:06.39\00:21:07.73
does baptism save you?
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Okay, we're gonna answer that.
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But look at Romans 3:23.
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Honey, would you
read that for us.
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Sure.
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"For all have
sinned and fall short
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of the glory of God."
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Have you ever met people
that said, "Well, you know,
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I'm a good person."
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Yes.
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I have been so tempted to
say, now that stranger say that,
00:21:26.15\00:21:28.85
I've been so tempted
to say, "You're not good."
00:21:28.88\00:21:32.05
But you know when you
meet people you don't know,
00:21:32.09\00:21:33.42
you don't just kind of,
00:21:33.46\00:21:34.79
that's not the
way to make friends.
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But there are no good people.
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There's none who
does good no not what?
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Righteous.
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We've all gone astray
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but even more
than that Romans 5:12,
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I want Jonathan,
read that for us.
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It's on the syllabus,
it'll save you some time.
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But Romans 5:12,
maybe Tita has it.
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Look at...
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This is why we are not good.
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This is why nobody is born good,
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this is why we
must be born again.
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Okay, it says, "Therefore,
00:21:59.85\00:22:01.48
just as through one
man sin entered the world,
00:22:01.52\00:22:04.82
and death through sin,
00:22:04.85\00:22:06.35
and thus death
spread to all men,
00:22:06.39\00:22:08.19
because all sinned."
00:22:08.22\00:22:09.89
So through one
man, who is that man?
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Do you remember his name? Adam.
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Adam.
00:22:12.99\00:22:14.33
So Adam passed on this
genetically defective character
00:22:14.36\00:22:18.07
that can't do anything but...
00:22:18.10\00:22:20.30
And watch this, it is
not so much the action,
00:22:20.34\00:22:24.87
it's the nature.
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This is something really
important because people think,
00:22:27.08\00:22:29.08
okay, I'm no longer gonna steal,
00:22:29.11\00:22:30.71
lie, commit adulteries,
swear, do wrong things, smoke,
00:22:30.75\00:22:35.38
they look at the itemized things
00:22:35.42\00:22:37.29
that they're gonna no longer do.
00:22:37.32\00:22:39.09
And then but what baptism
is more than anything else,
00:22:39.12\00:22:42.39
if you go to Romans,
let's go to Romans together.
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In our Bibles we
can walk through that.
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I'm not gonna just necessarily
walk through all the syllabus
00:22:47.26\00:22:49.23
as it is in
order but in Romans 6,
00:22:49.26\00:22:52.10
in our Bibles,
00:22:52.13\00:22:53.84
if you look at this whole idea,
baptism really what it does,
00:22:53.87\00:22:58.27
it gets rid of the
nature that you were born with.
00:22:58.31\00:23:02.04
It puts that nature to death.
00:23:02.08\00:23:04.35
We were all born
with whose nature?
00:23:04.38\00:23:05.88
Remember, what's his name? Adam.
00:23:05.91\00:23:07.48
Adam's nature.
00:23:07.52\00:23:08.85
1 Corinthians 15:22,
"As in Adam all die."
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Okay, here it is, honey.
00:23:11.72\00:23:14.02
Romans, in the syllabus
00:23:14.06\00:23:15.76
it's actually
under point number five,
00:23:15.79\00:23:18.29
if you have your
syllabus with you, look at that.
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And in Romans 6.
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Start with Romans 6:3-4
under point number four.
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Read that for us, honey.
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"Or do you not
know that as many of us
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as were baptized
into Christ Jesus
00:23:35.94\00:23:38.85
were baptized into His death?
00:23:38.88\00:23:41.65
Therefore we
were buried with Him
00:23:41.68\00:23:43.92
through baptism into death,
00:23:43.95\00:23:46.99
that just as Christ
was raised from the dead
00:23:47.02\00:23:50.19
by the glory of the Father,
00:23:50.23\00:23:52.03
even so we also should
walk in the newness of life."
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And to complete the thought,
Jonathan, the next scripture,
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Romans 6:5-7.
00:23:59.37\00:24:03.51
"For if we have
been united together
00:24:03.54\00:24:05.64
in the likeness of His death,
00:24:05.67\00:24:08.41
certainly we also
shall be in the likeness
00:24:08.44\00:24:10.98
of His
resurrection, knowing this,
00:24:11.01\00:24:14.05
that our old man
was crucified with Him,
00:24:14.08\00:24:16.92
that the body of sin
might be done away with,
00:24:16.95\00:24:19.65
that we should no
longer be slaves of sin.
00:24:19.69\00:24:22.36
For he who has died
has been freed from sin."
00:24:22.39\00:24:24.33
Okay.
00:24:24.36\00:24:25.69
So now let's talk
about that for a moment
00:24:25.73\00:24:27.06
because baptism, I
want to understand,
00:24:27.10\00:24:28.60
I want people to understand
00:24:28.63\00:24:29.96
because the method is important,
00:24:30.00\00:24:31.47
it's not sprinkling, what is it?
00:24:31.50\00:24:33.20
It's immersion.
00:24:33.23\00:24:34.94
Whole immersion.
00:24:34.97\00:24:36.30
Whole immersion because
you don't bury people with,
00:24:36.34\00:24:38.81
you don't throw dirt
on them to bury them.
00:24:38.84\00:24:40.78
That's right.
00:24:40.81\00:24:42.14
It's not dry
cleaning. It's not rose petals.
00:24:42.18\00:24:46.38
It's not you're born
again and I do the...
00:24:46.41\00:24:49.65
It's full immersion like Jesus,
00:24:49.68\00:24:52.75
coming up out of the
water symbolizing death,
00:24:52.79\00:24:55.16
burial and the
resurrection to newness of life.
00:24:55.19\00:24:58.36
But let's talk about this.
00:24:58.39\00:24:59.73
That's really what the
word means in the Greek.
00:24:59.76\00:25:02.06
And also in
Spanish, am I correct?
00:25:02.10\00:25:04.13
Yeah.
00:25:04.17\00:25:05.50
It's like you're
saying, you're being buried
00:25:05.53\00:25:08.34
that's what the
word baptism put,
00:25:08.37\00:25:09.70
I mean, to be
put under, submerged.
00:25:09.74\00:25:12.51
And as you mentioned sprinkling,
00:25:12.54\00:25:16.48
sprinkling is not the
full, doing what the word says.
00:25:16.51\00:25:23.28
It's a
modification but not accepted,
00:25:23.32\00:25:27.26
it's not scriptural, you see.
00:25:27.29\00:25:29.39
And so that's why it
doesn't meet the specifications
00:25:29.42\00:25:33.53
that we just read.
00:25:33.56\00:25:35.33
As Christ was buried, so
are we buried in the water
00:25:35.36\00:25:39.37
and then we rise when we're
lifted up out of the water.
00:25:39.40\00:25:44.14
You don't bury yourself.
00:25:44.17\00:25:46.94
Wow. Very good point.
00:25:46.98\00:25:49.18
But there's a
point that came up,
00:25:49.21\00:25:51.38
before we started the
program we were talking about
00:25:51.41\00:25:55.62
what about children and baptism.
00:25:55.65\00:25:59.52
And you had a quote
that you were sharing with me
00:25:59.55\00:26:01.42
just a moment ago,
00:26:01.46\00:26:02.79
and Tita brought
up this point too
00:26:02.82\00:26:05.36
and we could all speak to it,
00:26:05.39\00:26:07.06
but a lot of times people say
00:26:07.10\00:26:08.86
what is the
acceptable age of baptism.
00:26:08.90\00:26:13.00
And there's a quote you had
00:26:13.03\00:26:14.37
and I want you to
share that with us and then,
00:26:14.40\00:26:16.50
and even the
responsibility of parents.
00:26:16.54\00:26:18.34
That's right.
00:26:18.37\00:26:19.71
Because like a
dedication of a baby,
00:26:19.74\00:26:22.41
you know, you
could dedicate a baby
00:26:22.44\00:26:23.78
but the parents
are living a life like,
00:26:23.81\00:26:25.71
you know, Bonnie and Clyde.
00:26:25.75\00:26:30.09
And the dedicating of the
baby is not gonna do anything,
00:26:30.12\00:26:31.75
they don't know anything.
00:26:31.79\00:26:33.19
So share that with
us, honey about the quote
00:26:33.22\00:26:35.56
that you brought
out about baptism.
00:26:35.59\00:26:37.73
This is from
Manuscript five, 1896,
00:26:37.76\00:26:41.66
it says, "When
children are ready for baptism
00:26:41.70\00:26:44.50
never allow your
children to supposed,
00:26:44.53\00:26:47.57
to suppose that they
are not children of God
00:26:47.60\00:26:51.14
until they are old
enough to be baptized.
00:26:51.17\00:26:54.74
Baptism does not
make children Christians,
00:26:54.78\00:26:58.71
neither does it convert them,
00:26:58.75\00:27:00.98
but it is an outward sign
showing that they are sensible,
00:27:01.02\00:27:06.25
that they should
be children of God
00:27:06.29\00:27:08.56
by acknowledging that
they believe in Jesus Christ
00:27:08.59\00:27:12.19
as their Savior and will
henceforth live for Christ."
00:27:12.23\00:27:18.17
Okay.
00:27:18.20\00:27:19.53
So that you're describing there
00:27:19.57\00:27:21.30
that the child has a
relationship with Jesus,
00:27:21.34\00:27:25.44
knows who Jesus is.
00:27:25.47\00:27:27.18
So therefore I can hear my boys,
00:27:27.21\00:27:31.18
one day said they
wanted to get baptized.
00:27:31.21\00:27:34.08
But I've heard many voices,
00:27:34.12\00:27:36.05
little voices
from little children.
00:27:36.08\00:27:37.92
"Mommy, when you get baptized?"
00:27:37.95\00:27:39.59
"No, when you're
older. No, when you're older."
00:27:39.62\00:27:42.09
You know, but we as adults
00:27:42.12\00:27:44.39
we have to
explain what baptism is.
00:27:44.43\00:27:46.59
Yes.
00:27:46.63\00:27:47.96
Because when you
know that Jesus loves me,
00:27:48.00\00:27:52.67
that Jesus died for me
00:27:52.70\00:27:54.60
and we spend so much
time teaching the children,
00:27:54.64\00:27:57.97
John 3:16, you know.
00:27:58.01\00:28:00.54
So you're teaching this,
but when the child is ready
00:28:00.58\00:28:04.45
and says, you know, I
want to better get baptized
00:28:04.48\00:28:07.62
because I love Jesus
because He died for me
00:28:07.65\00:28:10.35
and we need to acknowledge that
and help them in their walk,
00:28:10.39\00:28:16.39
in their daily walk with Jesus
00:28:16.42\00:28:18.46
because we all grow
in different phases.
00:28:18.49\00:28:23.30
I am not
maturely in that growing
00:28:23.33\00:28:27.14
that John Dinzey has spiritually
00:28:27.17\00:28:29.10
and knowledge of the Bible,
00:28:29.14\00:28:30.61
but I'm growing, you know.
00:28:30.64\00:28:32.87
So what's the difference
between a child and an adult?
00:28:32.91\00:28:35.34
They're growing.
00:28:35.38\00:28:36.71
Yeah, you grow the
way God has planned to.
00:28:36.75\00:28:38.08
Exactly.
00:28:38.11\00:28:39.45
Especially it came
to my mind is, you know,
00:28:39.48\00:28:40.82
when you see these big revivals,
00:28:40.85\00:28:42.18
the kids and they
get excited and they go,
00:28:42.22\00:28:43.55
"They're getting baptized,
I want to get baptized too."
00:28:43.59\00:28:44.95
But they really don't understand
00:28:44.99\00:28:46.32
what baptism is.
00:28:46.35\00:28:47.72
It's kind of like a
feeling and they just, ooh,
00:28:47.76\00:28:49.36
this is great, and they,
00:28:49.39\00:28:50.86
and it dies out
within maybe a week,
00:28:50.89\00:28:52.89
I don't know week or so
but it just, I'm just thinking
00:28:52.93\00:28:54.60
about the youth and
they see their friends,
00:28:54.63\00:28:56.26
"Oh, that's cool, I
want to get baptized too,"
00:28:56.30\00:28:58.03
but is it really
like you're saying
00:28:58.07\00:28:59.40
is it a change in them.
00:28:59.43\00:29:00.77
You have to teach them.
That's what happened to me.
00:29:00.80\00:29:04.44
Bethel, I just got baptized
when I was about 10 years old,
00:29:04.47\00:29:07.74
all my friends
were getting baptized.
00:29:07.78\00:29:09.11
I got baptized at nine.
00:29:09.14\00:29:10.48
And I wanted to do it with them
but it didn't mean anything.
00:29:10.51\00:29:12.15
Yeah, exactly.
00:29:12.18\00:29:13.52
That's why we got re-baptized
at 19 years all together.
00:29:13.55\00:29:17.22
And I remember, I never
forget that her brother said,
00:29:17.25\00:29:19.69
"Why are they
getting baptized together?
00:29:19.72\00:29:21.06
Do they plan on
getting married or something?"
00:29:21.09\00:29:22.62
Oh, no. Yes.
00:29:22.66\00:29:24.86
Spirit was speaking.
00:29:24.89\00:29:26.70
You know, you just
mentioned something
00:29:26.73\00:29:28.90
that there may be
people listening to us
00:29:28.93\00:29:31.77
that were baptized
00:29:31.80\00:29:33.13
because a friend
was getting baptized
00:29:33.17\00:29:36.27
or there may be even someone
that was interested in a girl
00:29:36.30\00:29:40.38
that may have been
interested in a guy,
00:29:40.41\00:29:42.18
and she will say,
00:29:42.21\00:29:44.88
and he was a
Christian and she was not
00:29:44.91\00:29:47.32
or he was not a
Christian and she was,
00:29:47.35\00:29:50.02
and because they
wanted to please the other,
00:29:50.05\00:29:51.55
they got baptized even
though they didn't fully repent,
00:29:51.59\00:29:56.02
didn't really
want to be born again,
00:29:56.06\00:29:58.33
it was just to please someone.
00:29:58.36\00:29:59.73
It happens in every age.
00:29:59.76\00:30:01.20
And so, if that is the case,
someone is listening to us,
00:30:01.23\00:30:03.97
you just
mentioned what could happen
00:30:04.00\00:30:05.63
is that you
understand you are a sinner
00:30:05.67\00:30:07.74
and you want to be born again,
00:30:07.77\00:30:09.84
you must be born again.
00:30:09.87\00:30:11.91
That's right.
00:30:11.94\00:30:13.27
Anything, Jonathan?
00:30:13.31\00:30:14.78
I heard
everything everybody said
00:30:14.81\00:30:16.38
and this is probably long good.
00:30:16.41\00:30:19.95
You know when it
comes to the age,
00:30:19.98\00:30:22.18
you know it's like
we said it all depends
00:30:22.22\00:30:23.99
on their spiritual
growth and where they're at,
00:30:24.02\00:30:26.92
you don't want to deny them,
00:30:26.96\00:30:28.49
when they're ready you
don't want to deny them
00:30:28.52\00:30:30.99
but you don't want to,
00:30:31.03\00:30:32.79
when they're that
old you have control,
00:30:32.83\00:30:34.30
so you don't want them
doing it out of emotion
00:30:34.33\00:30:38.30
or other reasons.
00:30:38.33\00:30:39.87
But when you
explain it and teach it,
00:30:39.90\00:30:42.77
then hopefully they
would learn to understand
00:30:42.80\00:30:45.54
and know when it's time.
00:30:45.57\00:30:46.98
I think too that
you need to see fruit,
00:30:47.01\00:30:49.54
to me I would see fruit,
00:30:49.58\00:30:50.95
you know, like a desire
going in that direction for me,
00:30:50.98\00:30:53.98
like I said this
sermon see the fruit
00:30:54.02\00:30:55.98
and there's something
going on this person's life
00:30:56.02\00:30:57.62
is changing and yes there is,
00:30:57.65\00:30:59.52
they really do
want to be baptized.
00:30:59.55\00:31:00.99
Some people just say
it 'cause it feels great
00:31:01.02\00:31:03.06
but there's fruit being
born or like you see something
00:31:03.09\00:31:05.66
like you're making
change in your life.
00:31:05.69\00:31:07.16
We can't forget that
a child shall lead them.
00:31:07.20\00:31:09.23
Yeah, that's right.
00:31:09.26\00:31:10.60
You know, I've met
some really godly children,
00:31:10.63\00:31:14.80
I mean I've been so impressed.
00:31:14.84\00:31:17.37
So it's there, excuse me,
00:31:17.41\00:31:20.41
it's once again going
back to the love of Jesus,
00:31:20.44\00:31:23.75
you know, of Jesus
what they have embraced,
00:31:23.78\00:31:26.35
what they have made
it theirs, you know.
00:31:26.38\00:31:28.72
So when we have Jesus
as our personal Savior,
00:31:28.75\00:31:31.82
we acknowledge it publicly,
you know, and we want to do it,
00:31:31.85\00:31:36.32
it's because I
want to serve the Lord.
00:31:36.36\00:31:38.13
And it may be that
those very children
00:31:38.16\00:31:41.63
are gonna bring in,
00:31:41.66\00:31:43.40
you know, their siblings
or their family members,
00:31:43.43\00:31:48.07
grandparents, aunts and uncles
00:31:48.10\00:31:49.94
because of that transformation
in that child's life.
00:31:49.97\00:31:52.77
You know, the church represents
a lot of different types of,
00:31:52.81\00:31:55.98
lot of different types of plans.
00:31:56.01\00:31:57.78
You know, we were in California,
00:31:57.81\00:31:59.15
we lived in California
00:31:59.18\00:32:00.52
and we went to
Redwoods a number of times.
00:32:00.55\00:32:02.18
You go to the Redwoods
where these massive trees
00:32:02.22\00:32:04.22
that some of them
1500 years, 2000 years old,
00:32:04.25\00:32:07.56
and it's just amazing that.
00:32:07.59\00:32:09.32
I know the person
00:32:09.36\00:32:10.69
who planted that is
surely not around still,
00:32:10.73\00:32:12.86
except the Lord.
00:32:12.89\00:32:14.23
And but in that,
right next to that Redwood
00:32:14.26\00:32:16.06
you see a little tiny cute plant
00:32:16.10\00:32:18.70
that is a flower that
could be crushed into powder
00:32:18.73\00:32:22.30
if that tree ever
fell but it's fully grown.
00:32:22.34\00:32:25.24
And it's like here
and then this giant,
00:32:25.27\00:32:28.44
so we have
spiritual giants in our church
00:32:28.48\00:32:30.48
that have had a relationship
with Jesus for decades,
00:32:30.51\00:32:32.98
then you have one the child has.
00:32:33.01\00:32:34.35
And I remember
this point is so well
00:32:34.38\00:32:36.18
and I think we spent time
on it for a very good reason
00:32:36.22\00:32:38.65
because there's some children
00:32:38.69\00:32:40.02
that are watching
this program that,
00:32:40.06\00:32:41.69
"You see mommy,
you keep telling me
00:32:41.72\00:32:43.43
I can't get
baptized, but I love Jesus."
00:32:43.46\00:32:46.39
I remember the first
young child I baptized
00:32:46.43\00:32:48.60
was seven years old
00:32:48.63\00:32:50.33
and it was at our
church here at Thompsonville.
00:32:50.37\00:32:52.97
And I remember
asking this young girl,
00:32:53.00\00:32:56.17
Abby, I remember, I said, "Wow."
00:32:56.20\00:32:59.61
Because I made a call
00:32:59.64\00:33:00.98
and she came up
and her daddy said,
00:33:01.01\00:33:02.68
"Are you sure?"
00:33:02.71\00:33:04.05
"Yes, daddy, I love Jesus."
00:33:04.08\00:33:05.41
And she came up
with tears in her eyes.
00:33:05.45\00:33:07.38
When I made the
call with other people
00:33:07.42\00:33:08.82
to give her life to
Jesus and I gave her studies
00:33:08.85\00:33:11.32
and I said, "Do you
really understand this?"
00:33:11.35\00:33:12.89
"Yes." I said,
"Well, explain it to me."
00:33:12.92\00:33:15.32
I was blown away,
brought tears to my eyes
00:33:15.36\00:33:17.49
when I sat before this child
00:33:17.53\00:33:19.36
who explained her
connection, her love for Jesus.
00:33:19.39\00:33:22.00
And I was like, wow.
00:33:22.03\00:33:23.50
Yes, she knows who Jesus is.
00:33:23.53\00:33:25.57
Now we don't expect her
to explain the 2,300 days
00:33:25.60\00:33:29.20
with theological accuracy,
00:33:29.24\00:33:31.04
but we needed
her to know that yes,
00:33:31.07\00:33:32.84
you have an intercessor
in the heavenly sanctuary.
00:33:32.87\00:33:35.14
At that point that's
all she needs to know.
00:33:35.18\00:33:37.15
The tree is getting nourishment.
00:33:37.18\00:33:39.88
The Redwood is getting
nourishment from the same place
00:33:39.91\00:33:41.72
that this little cute
flower is getting nourishment
00:33:41.75\00:33:44.05
from the same Lord.
00:33:44.09\00:33:45.65
So we are speaking a child
00:33:45.69\00:33:47.66
that understands
something not a baby...
00:33:47.69\00:33:49.46
Right, not a baby.
00:33:49.49\00:33:50.83
They understand nothing,
00:33:50.86\00:33:52.19
all they
understand is somebody just...
00:33:52.23\00:33:54.06
Not even that. They
don't even understand.
00:33:54.10\00:33:57.50
If they could
talk, they would say,
00:33:57.53\00:33:59.03
"Why did you just
throw water on me?"
00:33:59.07\00:34:00.40
They don't know what's going on.
00:34:00.44\00:34:02.97
So I like to read the
scripture from John 1.
00:34:03.00\00:34:06.24
Yes, sure. Let's go there.
00:34:06.27\00:34:07.61
John 1.
00:34:07.64\00:34:10.45
It's hard to find a
place to start in John 1
00:34:10.48\00:34:13.85
because it's all good.
00:34:13.88\00:34:15.62
But because we
have to start somewhere,
00:34:15.65\00:34:19.82
we're gonna start in verse 8.
00:34:19.85\00:34:21.99
"He was not that Light,"
talking about John the Baptist,
00:34:22.02\00:34:24.53
"but was sent to bear
witness of that Light.
00:34:24.56\00:34:27.66
That was the true Light
00:34:27.70\00:34:29.06
which lights every man
that comes into the world.
00:34:29.10\00:34:32.70
He was in the world, and
the world was made by Him,"
00:34:32.73\00:34:36.47
talking about Jesus,
"and the world knew Him not.
00:34:36.50\00:34:39.91
He came unto His own."
00:34:39.94\00:34:41.61
Verse 11 now.
00:34:41.64\00:34:42.98
"And His own receive Him not.
00:34:43.01\00:34:44.81
But as many as received Him,
00:34:44.85\00:34:48.18
to them gave He power
to become the sons of God,
00:34:48.22\00:34:51.62
even to them that
believe on His name."
00:34:51.65\00:34:55.42
So we have two things there,
00:34:55.46\00:34:56.83
first, they must
be able to receive Him
00:34:56.86\00:34:59.69
and believe in His name.
00:34:59.73\00:35:02.80
And that's part of
the baptism process,
00:35:02.83\00:35:05.17
somebody that wants
to acknowledge like Abby.
00:35:05.20\00:35:07.54
She believed, she was
willing to receive Jesus.
00:35:07.57\00:35:10.94
And so she was ready.
00:35:10.97\00:35:12.81
And let's not underestimate
00:35:12.84\00:35:15.14
the Seventh-day Adventist church
00:35:15.18\00:35:16.75
if our viewers have
not step foot in it,
00:35:16.78\00:35:19.75
we have clubs,
what it is eager beaver,
00:35:19.78\00:35:23.22
adventurers club, pathfinders.
00:35:23.25\00:35:25.45
And their activities are
clubs that teach Bible truths...
00:35:25.49\00:35:29.29
Like the boys'
scouts and girls' scouts.
00:35:29.32\00:35:30.66
Yeah, exactly.
00:35:30.69\00:35:32.03
At their level and is beautiful
to see our young people growing
00:35:32.06\00:35:36.67
in the knowledge of the Lord.
00:35:36.70\00:35:39.47
I remember our, you know,
00:35:39.50\00:35:41.27
Jonathan you were in
the team too in the club
00:35:41.30\00:35:44.41
and our church kids how
they would do Bible Ball
00:35:44.44\00:35:47.81
and just so active in answering
so many biblical questions.
00:35:47.84\00:35:52.75
And I still see
some of our young people
00:35:52.78\00:35:56.38
that were in those clubs,
they put Bible thoughts or,
00:35:56.42\00:36:00.76
you know, comments
from the Spirit of Prophecy
00:36:00.79\00:36:04.09
or something on
Facebook and stuff.
00:36:04.13\00:36:06.06
I was like, Lord,
it's such a blessing.
00:36:06.09\00:36:08.36
I read every one of them.
00:36:08.40\00:36:10.20
I like, I just love these kids
00:36:10.23\00:36:13.20
because the Lord just
has been working on them,
00:36:13.23\00:36:15.67
they've been growing.
00:36:15.70\00:36:17.17
But I don't want someone
that has baptized your babies
00:36:17.21\00:36:20.71
with the sprinkles to
be, you know, what I said...
00:36:20.74\00:36:26.01
Discouraged. Discouraged, right.
00:36:26.05\00:36:28.82
That is why we gather together
in the councils of many, right?
00:36:28.85\00:36:32.95
So be encouraged that
the Lord is giving you light
00:36:32.99\00:36:36.89
and it's never too late
for you to learn Bible truths.
00:36:36.93\00:36:40.83
So we love you enough
to have this topic right,
00:36:40.86\00:36:44.97
about baptism.
00:36:45.00\00:36:46.94
And then there's
the flip side of that,
00:36:46.97\00:36:48.70
some people think,
00:36:48.74\00:36:50.07
"Well, I've been
this way for 70 years,
00:36:50.11\00:36:52.77
it's not gonna be, not
gonna make a big difference."
00:36:52.81\00:36:54.78
And I think that's
where John 3:4 comes in.
00:36:54.81\00:36:57.45
Somebody came in our
church and asked you,
00:36:57.48\00:36:59.51
"How old is too
old to be baptized."
00:36:59.55\00:37:02.38
And they were well in their 70s.
00:37:02.42\00:37:03.75
Remember that?
Remember Helen and Harmon.
00:37:03.79\00:37:08.76
Davis. Yes. Davis.
00:37:08.79\00:37:10.53
They came Wednesday
night, was a Wednesday night,
00:37:10.56\00:37:12.33
I saw them, we have a
prayer meeting at church
00:37:12.36\00:37:15.20
and they stayed up for prayer.
00:37:15.23\00:37:17.97
And I said, "Are
you visiting 3ABN?
00:37:18.00\00:37:20.74
And with a southern
accent, he said, "No."
00:37:20.77\00:37:24.04
I said, "Are
you an elder?" "No."
00:37:24.07\00:37:26.31
I said, "Are
you a deacon?" "No."
00:37:26.34\00:37:29.18
I said, "Are you a
member of the Adventist church."
00:37:29.21\00:37:30.85
"No."
00:37:30.88\00:37:32.21
"Oh, why are you here?"
00:37:32.25\00:37:33.58
He said, "You challenged
me to look up certain things
00:37:33.62\00:37:36.79
about the Sabbath
and that's why I'm here."
00:37:36.82\00:37:39.05
And then he
followed up the question
00:37:39.09\00:37:40.42
after he told me where hey says,
00:37:40.46\00:37:41.79
"How old is too
old to be baptized?"
00:37:41.82\00:37:45.43
And that I think is
the question of Nicodemus
00:37:45.46\00:37:47.96
in John 3:4.
00:37:48.00\00:37:49.66
"How can a man be
born when he is old?
00:37:49.70\00:37:52.47
Can he enter a second time
00:37:52.50\00:37:53.84
into his mother's
womb and be born?"
00:37:53.87\00:37:55.84
And Jesus knew, He knew
that he was a man of knowledge
00:37:55.87\00:38:01.78
but he was
trying to so to speak,
00:38:01.81\00:38:04.21
say do I have to
do the same thing.
00:38:04.25\00:38:06.82
And I said to him, "As
long as you're able to breathe
00:38:06.85\00:38:11.12
and your understanding
of what baptism is."
00:38:11.15\00:38:13.76
And he and his
wife were baptized.
00:38:13.79\00:38:15.46
And it was amazing
to me as they serve for,
00:38:15.49\00:38:17.99
he was an elder for
like almost 40 years
00:38:18.03\00:38:19.59
and she was like a treasurer
for 35, 36 years in a church
00:38:19.63\00:38:22.23
and never had been baptized.
00:38:22.26\00:38:24.83
And now he's resting in Jesus.
00:38:24.87\00:38:26.57
Waiting for the coming of Lord,
00:38:26.60\00:38:27.94
his wife is still
around and their children,
00:38:27.97\00:38:31.01
son and daughter-in-law
are members of the church too.
00:38:31.04\00:38:34.51
So there is no age
that you should say,
00:38:34.54\00:38:37.31
"Well, I've been
this way for a long time,
00:38:37.35\00:38:39.45
there's no hope for me."
00:38:39.48\00:38:40.82
You know, Pastor, I
have to ask this question
00:38:40.85\00:38:42.25
because there may be people
that may be in a hospital bed
00:38:42.28\00:38:46.59
and terminally ill
00:38:46.62\00:38:48.09
and can't get off
the bed to get baptized,
00:38:48.12\00:38:51.03
or in some other situation.
00:38:51.06\00:38:55.23
What do we say to them
00:38:55.26\00:38:56.80
because we've been reading that,
00:38:56.83\00:38:59.07
you must be born again
of water and the Spirit.
00:38:59.10\00:39:01.80
So what does, what do we
have, what can we tell them?
00:39:01.84\00:39:05.47
Wow. You know,
this is beautiful.
00:39:05.51\00:39:07.81
Let's go to Matthew 3
00:39:07.84\00:39:09.18
because this
question is answered there.
00:39:09.21\00:39:10.55
Thank you.
00:39:10.58\00:39:11.91
And this is such
a great question.
00:39:11.95\00:39:14.68
Thank you, Pastor
Dinzey, for bringing that up.
00:39:14.72\00:39:16.05
I think the Lord
just impressed his heart
00:39:16.08\00:39:17.42
to just ask the question.
00:39:17.45\00:39:18.79
Yeah, very good.
00:39:18.82\00:39:20.16
Because baptism, we
know baptism as the method,
00:39:20.19\00:39:21.99
you know they're
of different ages,
00:39:22.02\00:39:23.36
within there are
people that are in a position
00:39:23.39\00:39:24.83
where they cannot move.
00:39:24.86\00:39:27.73
And I remember Pastor Finley
talked about a story of a...
00:39:27.76\00:39:30.27
I don't know what country it was
00:39:30.30\00:39:31.63
but there was a young
man who was bound to his bed,
00:39:31.67\00:39:34.04
he couldn't
move, he couldn't walk
00:39:34.07\00:39:36.10
but he insisted
on being baptized,
00:39:36.14\00:39:38.27
he said, "I know I
can't go to the church."
00:39:38.31\00:39:40.44
And pastor Finley
went to his house.
00:39:40.48\00:39:42.54
He said, "But I
must be baptized."
00:39:42.58\00:39:45.58
And he insisted to
set the tub in his home.
00:39:45.61\00:39:48.55
And this frail young man
whose body had atrophied,
00:39:48.58\00:39:51.12
couldn't walk.
00:39:51.15\00:39:53.15
He said, we knelt in his
bathroom in his tight space
00:39:53.19\00:39:57.93
and put as much of
his body in that water
00:39:57.96\00:39:59.83
as we possibly could.
00:39:59.86\00:40:01.20
And he came up in the joy of
this new commitment to Christ,
00:40:01.23\00:40:05.47
just rejoicing.
00:40:05.50\00:40:06.84
And it wasn't
too long before that
00:40:06.87\00:40:08.34
that he succumbed to
the challenges of life,
00:40:08.37\00:40:11.17
he passed away.
00:40:11.21\00:40:12.54
But he
experiences, but Jesus for those
00:40:12.57\00:40:14.84
who like the thief on the cross,
00:40:14.88\00:40:17.75
we often been in
these situations.
00:40:17.78\00:40:19.45
Look at this and
let's read Matthew 3
00:40:19.48\00:40:23.22
because this is where
John is introducing Jesus,
00:40:23.25\00:40:27.02
it is John 1, he introduced him
00:40:27.06\00:40:28.49
but Bible says in verse 13,
00:40:28.52\00:40:30.99
"When Jesus came
from Galilee to John
00:40:31.03\00:40:32.73
at the Jordan to be baptized.
00:40:32.76\00:40:34.63
And John tried to prevent Him,
00:40:34.66\00:40:36.67
saying, 'I have need
to be baptized by You,
00:40:36.70\00:40:39.97
and are You coming to me?'"
00:40:40.00\00:40:42.44
In other words this
is not, You're the Lord.
00:40:42.47\00:40:46.04
"But Jesus answered and said..."
00:40:46.07\00:40:47.41
This is the answer.
00:40:47.44\00:40:48.78
"Permit it to be so now,
for thus it is fitting for us
00:40:48.81\00:40:52.21
to fulfill all righteousness.
00:40:52.25\00:40:54.95
Then he allowed Him."
00:40:54.98\00:40:56.69
That verse there
00:40:56.72\00:40:58.05
and we're gonna talk
about it for a minute or so.
00:40:58.09\00:41:01.19
Fulfill all righteousness,
righteousness is imparted
00:41:01.22\00:41:04.89
and then imputed.
00:41:04.93\00:41:06.26
That's right.
00:41:06.29\00:41:07.63
Imparted in the sense
of, you are not righteous
00:41:07.66\00:41:11.33
but my righteousness
is now imparted to you.
00:41:11.37\00:41:15.27
Covers your transgression.
00:41:15.30\00:41:18.07
You cannot live a
daily life righteously,
00:41:18.11\00:41:20.28
so I'm gonna impute this
to you day by day by day.
00:41:20.31\00:41:24.78
But for those who are not,
00:41:24.81\00:41:26.15
the thief on the
cross is a perfect example,
00:41:26.18\00:41:27.62
he declared his faith in Jesus.
00:41:27.65\00:41:29.22
That's right.
00:41:29.25\00:41:30.59
And he asked the question.
00:41:30.62\00:41:33.22
He said, "Lord, remember me
when You come in Your kingdom."
00:41:33.25\00:41:36.32
And Jesus said,
"I say to you today
00:41:36.36\00:41:37.69
you'll be with Me in paradise."
00:41:37.73\00:41:39.06
He made a
commitment to him that day.
00:41:39.09\00:41:40.66
He is on the cross,
He is not coming down,
00:41:40.70\00:41:43.90
except after He dies.
00:41:43.93\00:41:45.67
And so here's the point
for those unique situations,
00:41:45.70\00:41:49.37
people that are older, people
that are on their deathbed,
00:41:49.40\00:41:51.77
people that are
wherever they may be
00:41:51.81\00:41:53.58
in the, in the
restraining places of life.
00:41:53.61\00:41:57.41
The righteousness of
Jesus is not received in water
00:41:57.45\00:42:01.62
but it's received in faith.
00:42:01.65\00:42:02.98
Amen. Okay.
00:42:03.02\00:42:04.35
And I know you
want to comment on that
00:42:04.39\00:42:05.72
because you
brought the question up.
00:42:05.75\00:42:07.09
Oh, well, you know just to add,
00:42:07.12\00:42:08.46
if the thief was on
the cross still alive
00:42:08.49\00:42:12.13
and the Caesar
would come and say,
00:42:12.16\00:42:14.20
"Hold, hold, hold, I've
decided to pardon this man."
00:42:14.23\00:42:17.77
And they take Him
down from the cross,
00:42:17.80\00:42:19.13
what do you think
he would have done?
00:42:19.17\00:42:20.77
He would have been baptized
00:42:20.80\00:42:22.14
because that's
what he really want.
00:42:22.17\00:42:24.07
He wanted to be
part of God's kingdom.
00:42:24.11\00:42:26.51
And so the people that can't,
00:42:26.54\00:42:28.71
then what you've said
just helps us to understand
00:42:28.74\00:42:31.95
that, yes, there
are those situations
00:42:31.98\00:42:34.85
but we know that
if they were able,
00:42:34.88\00:42:36.48
if the thief on the
cross would have been able,
00:42:36.52\00:42:37.85
he would have been baptized.
00:42:37.89\00:42:39.22
If the person
that is on deathbed
00:42:39.25\00:42:41.39
was to have the
capacity to, would do it.
00:42:41.42\00:42:44.33
And so God has made provision.
00:42:44.36\00:42:46.49
Amen. Praise the Lord for that.
00:42:46.53\00:42:47.86
I was gonna say too,
God looks at our heart,
00:42:47.90\00:42:50.60
He sees the heart, so He
knew that thief on the cross
00:42:50.63\00:42:52.97
where his heart was,
00:42:53.00\00:42:54.34
so I think we don't
see the heart of God does
00:42:54.37\00:42:56.47
as far as repentance, God knows
00:42:56.50\00:42:57.84
who really
intimately and ultimately
00:42:57.87\00:42:59.74
in their heart want to repent.
00:42:59.77\00:43:01.31
Let me throw another scenario
00:43:01.34\00:43:02.68
and anyone of us
could answer this.
00:43:02.71\00:43:04.05
Let's just say Jonathan,
00:43:04.08\00:43:05.41
let's use
Jonathan as an example.
00:43:05.45\00:43:06.78
Jonathan is a quiet gentleman.
00:43:06.82\00:43:10.45
Jonathan is quite, I
love his spirit of servanthood
00:43:10.49\00:43:13.46
and his family liken
they have just nurtured,
00:43:13.49\00:43:16.06
it's such a
blessing to our church.
00:43:16.09\00:43:17.43
Thanking you now for that.
00:43:17.46\00:43:20.26
There are some people
that are very recluse,
00:43:20.30\00:43:22.56
they're in the background,
00:43:22.60\00:43:23.93
they're comfortable to be there.
00:43:23.97\00:43:25.30
And the public setting
terrifies them and not,
00:43:25.33\00:43:28.27
Jonathan is not terrified by it
00:43:28.30\00:43:29.64
'cause he does every good
job but he doesn't push himself.
00:43:29.67\00:43:33.51
What if person says,
00:43:33.54\00:43:36.24
"I'm afraid to be
baptized publicly.
00:43:36.28\00:43:41.38
So I'm not gonna get baptized
00:43:41.42\00:43:42.75
because it means in
front of everyone else."
00:43:42.78\00:43:44.42
And we'll say, "Well, okay,
00:43:48.39\00:43:51.26
for you we'll make an exception,
00:43:51.29\00:43:52.63
you don't have to get baptized
00:43:52.66\00:43:54.16
because you're fearful
00:43:54.20\00:43:56.00
or you don't want
to be done in public."
00:43:56.03\00:43:58.03
What we should encourage
a person, let me throw that,
00:43:58.07\00:43:59.87
what do you think we should do
00:43:59.90\00:44:01.24
and I'm gonna come up
with the answer in a moment.
00:44:01.27\00:44:02.60
But I think you know
where I'm headed with this.
00:44:02.64\00:44:04.27
What do you think we
should do in that case?
00:44:04.31\00:44:05.64
For me I think it depends
on the best thing would be
00:44:05.67\00:44:09.48
get down to the bottom as
to why they don't want to be
00:44:09.51\00:44:11.68
baptized in public.
00:44:11.71\00:44:13.05
You know is it, you
know is it a phobia of,
00:44:13.08\00:44:16.38
you know just other people,
00:44:16.42\00:44:18.45
or is it they don't
want to announce to people
00:44:18.49\00:44:23.29
that they're being baptized.
00:44:23.32\00:44:24.66
You know 'cause
it's their outward sign.
00:44:24.69\00:44:26.70
So you don't want to,
00:44:26.73\00:44:30.43
if they're afraid
to announce to people
00:44:30.47\00:44:32.03
that they're being
baptized becoming a Christian.
00:44:32.07\00:44:33.77
Well, are you truly, is
your heart really in it.
00:44:33.80\00:44:37.97
Right. There you go.
00:44:38.01\00:44:39.57
That's a very good
point. Okay, anyone else?
00:44:39.61\00:44:41.58
That's a public step that
we are testifying publicly
00:44:41.61\00:44:47.68
that we accept
Christ as our Savior.
00:44:47.72\00:44:50.35
So I would definitely
work with that person,
00:44:50.39\00:44:53.86
give them more time
00:44:53.89\00:44:55.22
and when they're
ready to publicly,
00:44:55.26\00:44:57.33
I mean you don't have to have
a million people present there.
00:44:57.36\00:45:00.80
But if he or she
decides to get baptized,
00:45:00.83\00:45:05.00
we send out a
community church email,
00:45:05.03\00:45:08.60
we're gonna have a baptism
00:45:08.64\00:45:09.97
at such a such a
time at the church.
00:45:10.01\00:45:12.07
Anyone that is available,
you know is welcome to come.
00:45:12.11\00:45:15.84
So there will be people
that can attend and watch.
00:45:15.88\00:45:18.75
So I prefer baptisms
00:45:18.78\00:45:21.28
during church
service on Sabbath.
00:45:21.32\00:45:23.49
It's so beautiful, it's
a high Sabbath and ritual,
00:45:23.52\00:45:28.29
all the service is
very, very, very meaningful.
00:45:28.32\00:45:32.69
And you know we've had, so
the reason I mention that is
00:45:32.73\00:45:35.10
because the Ethiopian eunuch
on his way back to Ethiopia,
00:45:35.13\00:45:39.50
Philip which
means lover of horses,
00:45:39.53\00:45:41.24
the Lord sent him to one
to one evangelistic series
00:45:41.27\00:45:44.11
in the desert.
00:45:44.14\00:45:45.74
He said what
hinders me to be baptized,
00:45:45.77\00:45:47.58
there's nothing, there is water,
00:45:47.61\00:45:49.14
and that was a private baptism.
00:45:49.18\00:45:50.78
But Ethiopia was
the only other country
00:45:50.81\00:45:55.15
outside of the Jews
00:45:55.18\00:45:56.52
that had been keeping
the Sabbath almost as long,
00:45:56.55\00:45:59.29
and I believe
that Ethiopian eunuch
00:45:59.32\00:46:01.32
had something to do with it.
00:46:01.36\00:46:03.63
It's beautiful, you
know, we read the scripture,
00:46:03.66\00:46:06.63
you must be born of
water and the spirit,
00:46:06.66\00:46:08.23
it doesn't say you must
be born of water and spirit
00:46:08.26\00:46:10.33
and then 50 people
have to be watching.
00:46:10.37\00:46:13.10
And so, yes, this is true,
00:46:13.13\00:46:14.67
that's a beautiful
example of the Ethiopian eunuch.
00:46:14.70\00:46:17.77
And that is marvelous.
00:46:17.81\00:46:19.31
I saw a lady
when I was a teenager
00:46:19.34\00:46:23.11
that she had
decided to be baptized
00:46:23.14\00:46:26.11
and the church was
there and it was different
00:46:26.15\00:46:31.29
than any other baptism I saw
00:46:31.32\00:46:32.75
and it remains in my
mind, I see the lady.
00:46:32.79\00:46:37.79
And there was a
fear she had of water.
00:46:37.83\00:46:41.93
She was terrified
to go under the water.
00:46:41.96\00:46:45.33
And so the pastor had
her there in the baptismal
00:46:45.37\00:46:49.24
and all that she was able to do
00:46:49.27\00:46:52.54
because of her fear is
kind of just wet her face,
00:46:52.57\00:46:55.71
I mean, she literally went
down and came back up again
00:46:55.74\00:46:58.75
but really just got wet,
was not able to go fully under
00:46:58.78\00:47:02.68
but what do we see?
00:47:02.72\00:47:05.55
She had intentions of going down
00:47:05.59\00:47:07.99
but fear overcame
her and the pastor said,
00:47:08.02\00:47:10.73
"You know, God accepts
this as an action of faith."
00:47:10.76\00:47:16.93
And she was willing
to come in the water,
00:47:16.97\00:47:19.03
this is something,
she overcame her fear
00:47:19.07\00:47:21.30
just to be in
the water like that.
00:47:21.34\00:47:23.34
And so God accepts these things,
00:47:23.37\00:47:24.71
and like the thief
on the cross, like...
00:47:24.74\00:47:26.98
Yeah, he didn't even
had to go in the water.
00:47:27.01\00:47:28.58
So the righteousness of Jesus
is not limited to the water.
00:47:28.61\00:47:32.71
And I want to point that out
00:47:32.75\00:47:34.08
we've had some
unusual baptisms here,
00:47:34.12\00:47:35.45
remember John Hager.
00:47:35.48\00:47:38.09
You took the words
out of my mouth, Pastor.
00:47:38.12\00:47:41.52
That was the baptism
00:47:41.56\00:47:43.79
that brought the
entire church to tears.
00:47:43.83\00:47:45.69
We have shared
that baptism worldwide
00:47:45.73\00:47:48.40
in the Spanish community,
00:47:48.43\00:47:49.83
when we shared
in different church.
00:47:49.86\00:47:53.34
And but anyway you
are the pastor, go ahead.
00:47:53.37\00:47:56.81
Well, I mean it was important
because John Hager has one leg.
00:47:56.84\00:48:01.48
That's right. And
so we just said, okay.
00:48:01.51\00:48:03.35
Well, the elders
will get together,
00:48:03.38\00:48:04.71
we'll put him in a
wheelchair and lower him in.
00:48:04.75\00:48:08.18
He said, "No, pastor I lived
with one leg for the world.
00:48:08.22\00:48:13.52
I'm gonna crawl, I'm
gonna crawl up the steps."
00:48:13.56\00:48:20.46
And in the background
the music was playing,
00:48:20.50\00:48:22.56
Take me to the water.
00:48:22.60\00:48:23.93
Yes, from tellers music.
00:48:23.97\00:48:25.73
There was not a dry
eye, I'm reliving this.
00:48:25.77\00:48:27.70
Oh, I am too.
00:48:27.74\00:48:29.17
There was not a
dry eye in the house.
00:48:29.20\00:48:31.01
And he said, no
I'm going to crawl.
00:48:31.04\00:48:33.21
And he crawled up that step,
he crawled up one at a time.
00:48:33.24\00:48:35.78
Turned around and sat, one step.
00:48:35.81\00:48:37.95
And we baptized him.
00:48:37.98\00:48:39.75
And what a day it was.
00:48:39.78\00:48:41.18
And so, you know,
there are those who may,
00:48:41.22\00:48:42.92
and this was a sure
sign of I'm humbling myself,
00:48:42.95\00:48:46.52
he could have easily had
all the reasons not to do,
00:48:46.55\00:48:48.79
I can't, I have one leg.
00:48:48.82\00:48:51.09
He said if I live
like this for the world,
00:48:51.13\00:48:54.10
I want to give this
life just as I am to Jesus.
00:48:54.13\00:48:57.23
And so for those
that may be saying,
00:48:57.27\00:48:59.20
well, I have
physical limitations,
00:48:59.23\00:49:01.00
we've expressed a few ways here.
00:49:01.04\00:49:03.10
And I remember
one more, oh, man.
00:49:03.14\00:49:06.64
Brenda. Brenda.
00:49:06.68\00:49:08.28
Remember Brenda.
00:49:08.31\00:49:10.15
I like to tell
that story about Brenda.
00:49:10.18\00:49:11.88
She didn't have legs, did she?
00:49:11.91\00:49:13.65
No. No.
00:49:13.68\00:49:15.12
And Pastor CA is the
one that baptized her.
00:49:15.15\00:49:20.16
You could tell it, you know it.
00:49:20.19\00:49:22.29
Well, she didn't
have legs at all.
00:49:22.32\00:49:25.09
And she came to
the knowledge of Jesus,
00:49:25.13\00:49:27.56
she was in living in the world,
00:49:27.60\00:49:28.93
and she heard of
Him on the radio,
00:49:28.96\00:49:30.30
he had such an infectious laugh
00:49:30.33\00:49:32.37
which is what is
making this man laugh so much,
00:49:32.40\00:49:34.14
I want to find out more about it
00:49:34.17\00:49:35.90
and it ended up the
Lord uses His laughter
00:49:35.94\00:49:38.81
to lead it to the
knowledge of the truth
00:49:38.84\00:49:40.81
and she had no legs at all.
00:49:40.84\00:49:42.71
So this was another
baptism that was unusual,
00:49:42.74\00:49:44.61
she hung on to him.
00:49:44.65\00:49:46.48
And he was baptized with her
00:49:46.51\00:49:49.45
'cause he had to
go under the water
00:49:49.48\00:49:50.82
while she grabbed on to him.
00:49:50.85\00:49:52.85
And he got wet while
she got fully submersed.
00:49:52.89\00:49:55.76
So there's no outside of it,
00:49:55.79\00:49:58.69
I'm glad you said
help a person understand
00:49:58.73\00:50:00.90
that this public expression
empowers so many other people
00:50:00.93\00:50:03.80
to let them know
that they could do that,
00:50:03.83\00:50:05.30
what's hindering me.
00:50:05.33\00:50:06.67
That 's right.
00:50:06.70\00:50:08.04
Well, when we
found traveled abroad,
00:50:08.07\00:50:10.17
we have seen all
kinds of baptisms.
00:50:10.21\00:50:12.77
And it's like it just
tugs at your heart the desire,
00:50:12.81\00:50:16.98
to see your desire of people,
00:50:17.01\00:50:19.01
just given their
whole life from head to toe
00:50:19.05\00:50:23.45
and I've seen
wheelchairs in swimming pools,
00:50:23.49\00:50:27.72
you know, this
portable swimming pools,
00:50:27.76\00:50:29.72
they have put, the deacons
have carried people in a chair
00:50:29.76\00:50:34.60
and brought them
in there and you know,
00:50:34.63\00:50:36.93
immersed a
chair with the person.
00:50:36.97\00:50:39.17
And it's like what, you
know, how people crowd over
00:50:39.20\00:50:44.91
to the baptistery
to see everything.
00:50:44.94\00:50:46.84
And I'm looking and I can
barely see what's happening
00:50:46.88\00:50:50.05
because my eyes
are so full of tears,
00:50:50.08\00:50:52.45
it's like, oh, Lord.
00:50:52.48\00:50:54.32
It's a rejoicing
moment. Yes, yes.
00:50:54.35\00:50:56.28
Definitely. Beautiful.
00:50:56.32\00:50:57.65
I remember we were in Australia
and you were doing a baptism
00:50:57.69\00:51:01.39
with nothing but
crocodiles in the river.
00:51:01.42\00:51:04.16
That's right.
00:51:04.19\00:51:07.00
They took a bite out of sin.
00:51:07.03\00:51:11.03
Oh, they told me afterwards,
didn't tell me before.
00:51:11.07\00:51:14.67
They said, I went to
the largest crocodiles
00:51:14.70\00:51:16.64
that live in this lake.
00:51:16.67\00:51:18.57
And I'm thinking,
00:51:18.61\00:51:20.48
now you tell me
they put on a wet suit.
00:51:20.51\00:51:23.24
And they said and
everybody watching it,
00:51:23.28\00:51:25.65
told me afterwards and
I thought, "Oh, Lord...
00:51:25.68\00:51:28.35
Daniel in the lions'
den. You know I'm glad.
00:51:28.38\00:51:31.15
You protected me
for a special moment."
00:51:31.19\00:51:33.25
And I also want to
say something else.
00:51:33.29\00:51:34.89
Thank you that
was an amazing story
00:51:34.92\00:51:36.26
but you know our
time goes by so quickly,
00:51:36.29\00:51:38.39
I want to add a
couple of points here
00:51:38.43\00:51:39.89
because there's some
people that got baptized
00:51:39.93\00:51:41.66
and they're discouraged
that they haven't seen
00:51:41.70\00:51:43.90
the changes as quickly
00:51:43.93\00:51:45.27
as they want to
see these changes.
00:51:45.30\00:51:46.90
And I want to
encourage that individual,
00:51:46.94\00:51:48.57
those individuals that
may be saying, "Oh, okay.
00:51:48.60\00:51:50.71
Oh, I got baptized and
it's like been four months,
00:51:50.74\00:51:53.11
I've been two years now
00:51:53.14\00:51:54.48
and I fall
sometimes I'm difficult."
00:51:54.51\00:51:56.64
But I want to, I want to
look at question number eight.
00:51:56.68\00:51:58.91
And, Jonathan, you're
the quiet one over here,
00:51:58.95\00:52:01.38
read question number
eight for us in the...
00:52:01.42\00:52:03.05
Read that text
in Philippians 1:6.
00:52:03.08\00:52:05.19
I want to just hit a couple
of points here very carefully.
00:52:05.22\00:52:08.39
Question is should
we feel discouraged
00:52:08.42\00:52:10.93
when we don't see
quick changes after baptism?
00:52:10.96\00:52:14.50
So Philippians 1:6 says,
00:52:14.53\00:52:16.83
"Being confident
of this very thing,
00:52:16.87\00:52:18.80
that He who has
begun a good work in you
00:52:18.83\00:52:21.24
will complete it until
the day of Jesus Christ."
00:52:21.27\00:52:24.57
So the work begins, right?
00:52:24.61\00:52:27.44
But now I want to also,
honey, our favorite scripture,
00:52:27.48\00:52:30.28
read that for us 1 John 3:1-2.
00:52:30.31\00:52:34.75
It says, "Behold
what manner of love
00:52:34.78\00:52:38.85
the Father has bestowed on us,
00:52:38.89\00:52:41.82
that we should be
called children of God.
00:52:41.86\00:52:46.19
Therefore the
world does not know us,
00:52:46.23\00:52:49.43
because it did not know Him.
00:52:49.46\00:52:52.80
Beloved, now we
are children of God,
00:52:52.83\00:52:56.20
and it has not yet been revealed
00:52:56.24\00:52:59.07
what we shall be,
00:52:59.11\00:53:01.08
but we know that
when He is revealed,
00:53:01.11\00:53:04.98
we shall be like Him, for
we shall see Him as He is."
00:53:05.01\00:53:09.45
Okay. So right now.
00:53:09.48\00:53:11.65
When are we
children of God? Right now.
00:53:11.69\00:53:13.19
Right now. When
we're children of God?
00:53:13.22\00:53:14.69
Right now. He's our Father.
00:53:14.72\00:53:17.69
When we enter
into this relationship,
00:53:17.73\00:53:19.69
it's not just a
commitment to a church,
00:53:19.73\00:53:22.33
that's why we
fellowship together,
00:53:22.36\00:53:24.33
baptism brings us
into a fellowship.
00:53:24.37\00:53:25.90
So if you might be one of
those individuals that said,
00:53:25.93\00:53:27.90
I want to be baptized
00:53:27.94\00:53:29.27
but I don't want
to join the church,
00:53:29.30\00:53:30.64
you don't understand baptism.
00:53:30.67\00:53:32.01
The Lord adds to the church.
You see iron sharpens iron.
00:53:32.04\00:53:35.31
That's right.
00:53:35.34\00:53:36.68
So Tita, Pastor Dinzey,
Donald, Jonathan, Angie,
00:53:36.71\00:53:40.95
we all grow together
and like leaves and trees
00:53:40.98\00:53:45.02
and flowers and
bushes and roses.
00:53:45.05\00:53:47.12
And we all grow together,
we're in the garden of God.
00:53:47.16\00:53:50.29
And so we have to grow together.
00:53:50.33\00:53:51.93
I was gonna say when
you talked about trees,
00:53:51.96\00:53:53.50
I just think about that
image, we have all these trees,
00:53:53.53\00:53:55.63
you got a strong one
that comes, they all stand
00:53:55.66\00:53:58.00
but you have two or
three trees and they snap,
00:53:58.03\00:54:01.10
they need that support.
00:54:01.14\00:54:03.10
That's what church is support,
00:54:03.14\00:54:04.97
we're supposed to
support one another.
00:54:05.01\00:54:06.98
It's really important.
00:54:07.01\00:54:08.34
You know there's this
video in our 3ABN archives
00:54:08.38\00:54:12.08
that I remember and it
was, it's a Russian baptism,
00:54:12.11\00:54:17.49
baptizing a Russian.
00:54:17.52\00:54:18.85
This man is
coming out of the river
00:54:18.89\00:54:20.62
and the camera man
followed him for a while
00:54:20.66\00:54:23.53
and there was
this joy in his face
00:54:23.56\00:54:27.20
because he was born again.
00:54:27.23\00:54:29.76
And, you know,
you think of the joy
00:54:29.80\00:54:31.83
of a parent seeing
a child being baptized
00:54:31.87\00:54:34.67
or somebody that
I've seen husband
00:54:34.70\00:54:38.21
or wives that
their spouse got baptized
00:54:38.24\00:54:40.58
and there's this rejoicing
and hugging and it's amazing,
00:54:40.61\00:54:43.95
it's an indescribable joy.
00:54:43.98\00:54:46.48
And the Bible says that
there's more joy in heaven,
00:54:46.51\00:54:49.55
over one sinner that repents
00:54:49.58\00:54:51.02
and over 99 that
needed not repentance.
00:54:51.05\00:54:54.02
And I've seen joy on earth
over someone being baptized,
00:54:54.06\00:54:57.96
but the joy in heaven,
00:54:57.99\00:55:00.80
I would love to
be there to see that
00:55:00.83\00:55:03.20
because what I've seen on
earth brings joy to my heart.
00:55:03.23\00:55:06.47
And so if anyone, you know,
00:55:06.50\00:55:08.57
is watching hasn't taken
this step to be baptized,
00:55:08.60\00:55:12.87
it's the best
thing you could do.
00:55:12.91\00:55:14.24
I would encourage anyone
00:55:14.28\00:55:15.61
that has not taken
this step to be baptized,
00:55:15.64\00:55:17.41
God bless, I know, Pastor,
00:55:17.45\00:55:18.78
maybe you want to make
an appeal to that since
00:55:18.81\00:55:20.15
we have praise too.
00:55:20.18\00:55:21.52
Yes and, you know, we talked
about baptism of the water,
00:55:21.55\00:55:23.69
we talked about
baptism of the Spirit,
00:55:23.72\00:55:25.72
there's also baptism by fire.
00:55:25.75\00:55:28.26
And I want to
mention that baptism
00:55:28.29\00:55:30.33
brings us into a
relationship with Jesus.
00:55:30.36\00:55:32.59
But for Him to
finish the work in us,
00:55:32.63\00:55:35.33
sometimes He has to
take us through trials.
00:55:35.36\00:55:37.47
That's right.
00:55:37.50\00:55:38.83
To weed out all the things
00:55:38.87\00:55:40.20
and you know there's
no joy in melting the gold
00:55:40.24\00:55:44.24
but there is joy in
scraping away the dross.
00:55:44.27\00:55:47.88
So we could come
out like pure gold
00:55:47.91\00:55:49.71
and I don't
know of any Christian
00:55:49.74\00:55:51.18
that hasn't been through trial.
00:55:51.21\00:55:52.75
Can I get one?
00:55:52.78\00:55:54.12
If you're a Christian
that's never been through trial
00:55:54.15\00:55:55.88
let us know.
00:55:55.92\00:55:57.49
But the appeal is...
00:55:57.52\00:55:58.85
Much tribulation.
Through, how much?
00:55:58.89\00:56:00.89
Much tribulation
will enter the kingdom.
00:56:00.92\00:56:03.26
And one day we
will look like Jesus.
00:56:03.29\00:56:05.03
Amen.
00:56:05.06\00:56:06.39
Because He's got us ready being
confident the work he begins.
00:56:06.43\00:56:09.06
So whatever your age
whether you're a young man,
00:56:09.10\00:56:11.07
a young woman, whether you
are not hitting the teens yet
00:56:11.10\00:56:14.80
but you have a
connection with Jesus
00:56:14.84\00:56:16.17
because of the family
in which you were raised,
00:56:16.20\00:56:18.74
nothing hinders you.
00:56:18.77\00:56:20.38
You might be old or beyond
30, 40, 50 years you might say,
00:56:20.41\00:56:24.08
"Oh, I just what use is there
for me, I'm beyond 75, 80."
00:56:24.11\00:56:28.65
If you're still alive
00:56:28.68\00:56:30.02
and you want to be
in the kingdom of God,
00:56:30.05\00:56:32.42
this is where you say,
"Lord, I confess my sins,
00:56:32.45\00:56:36.32
I accept Jesus as my Savior.
00:56:36.36\00:56:38.16
I want to be in
that redeemed host."
00:56:38.19\00:56:39.69
Baptism is waiting for you too.
00:56:39.73\00:56:41.76
You may be on a bed
and not able to get up,
00:56:41.80\00:56:44.13
you say, "What
hope is there for me,
00:56:44.17\00:56:46.10
I can't even
walk, I can't move."
00:56:46.13\00:56:47.77
We've given some examples,
00:56:47.80\00:56:49.30
if you ask the pastor to come
00:56:49.34\00:56:51.04
and lead you to
that relationship,
00:56:51.07\00:56:52.51
the repentance of your life
and this new walk with Christ,
00:56:52.54\00:56:55.21
there's hope for you too.
00:56:55.24\00:56:57.08
And, but there's nothing,
00:56:57.11\00:56:58.78
there's nothing that
could hinder you by faith,
00:56:58.81\00:57:02.12
if you accept
Jesus, repent of your sins,
00:57:02.15\00:57:04.69
nothing will prevent you
00:57:04.72\00:57:06.05
from responding
to the voice of Jesus
00:57:06.09\00:57:07.89
when He comes back.
00:57:07.92\00:57:09.26
Can we say amen
to that? Amen. Amen.
00:57:09.29\00:57:10.63
And so today we
extend this appeal
00:57:10.66\00:57:13.80
from our family to yours.
00:57:13.83\00:57:15.26
Amen. Amen. That's right.
00:57:15.30\00:57:17.03
Jesus said to
Nicodemus which we say to you,
00:57:17.07\00:57:20.54
we must be born again, if
you're born in Christ Jesus,
00:57:20.57\00:57:23.77
we will all be in the
kingdom of Jesus when He comes.
00:57:23.81\00:57:26.78
May God bless
you on behalf of 3ABN
00:57:26.81\00:57:29.24
to walk with
Jesus, to get to know Him
00:57:29.28\00:57:31.35
and to respond to the
call of the Life Giver
00:57:31.38\00:57:33.38
when He returns.
00:57:33.42\00:57:34.75
Until we see you
again, may the Lord bless you.
00:57:34.78\00:57:36.58
Happy Sabbath.
00:57:36.62\00:57:37.95