I want to spend my life 00:00:01.56\00:00:07.44 Mending broken people 00:00:07.47\00:00:12.31 I want to spend my life 00:00:12.34\00:00:18.58 Removing pain 00:00:18.61\00:00:23.69 Lord, let my words 00:00:23.72\00:00:29.82 Heal a heart that hurts 00:00:29.86\00:00:34.50 I want to spend my life 00:00:34.53\00:00:40.34 Mending broken people 00:00:40.37\00:00:45.67 I want to spend my life 00:00:45.71\00:00:51.31 Mending broken people 00:00:51.35\00:00:54.92 Hello, and welcome to 3ABN's Family Worship. 00:01:07.16\00:01:10.37 I'm Chris Shelton. 00:01:10.40\00:01:11.73 And this is my husband, Pastor Kenny Shelton. 00:01:11.77\00:01:14.30 And we have a wonderful panel of 3ABN family here 00:01:14.34\00:01:18.24 with us today. 00:01:18.27\00:01:19.61 So we welcome you, our family at home, 00:01:19.64\00:01:21.34 happy Sabbath. That's right. 00:01:21.38\00:01:22.84 And we are looking forward to a wonderful lesson tonight. 00:01:22.88\00:01:26.05 Our lesson title is going to be "Agents for Heaven". 00:01:26.08\00:01:29.28 But first, I want to introduce the panel to you. 00:01:29.32\00:01:31.75 Over to my right is Jason Bradley. 00:01:31.79\00:01:34.69 And, Jason, you work in Dare to Dream. 00:01:34.72\00:01:36.49 What is your official title? 00:01:36.52\00:01:38.06 Assistant to the general manager. 00:01:38.09\00:01:39.69 I figured it had to be close 00:01:39.73\00:01:41.06 'cause you guys are really just right there. 00:01:41.10\00:01:42.96 Who is that general manager, by the way? 00:01:43.00\00:01:44.83 Well, I've known her for about 31 years. 00:01:44.87\00:01:48.47 You're pretty close, right? 00:01:48.50\00:01:50.07 It's my mother, Yvonne Lewis. 00:01:50.11\00:01:51.51 You guys spearhead about everything, wear lots of hats, 00:01:51.54\00:01:54.28 I'm sure like we do, so that's awesome. 00:01:54.31\00:01:56.75 Wonderful programming by the way. 00:01:56.78\00:01:58.35 I love watching it myself. 00:01:58.38\00:02:00.28 So, and next to him is JD. 00:02:00.32\00:02:02.18 JD, you work in... 00:02:02.22\00:02:03.55 Pastoral... 00:02:03.59\00:02:04.92 Pastoral and probably about anything they want you to... 00:02:04.95\00:02:07.19 Just close to it. Close to it, all right. 00:02:07.22\00:02:09.72 You know, to the best of my ability 00:02:09.76\00:02:11.56 which that limits everything right there. 00:02:11.59\00:02:13.93 Okay. 00:02:13.96\00:02:15.30 And over to my left is Sister Irma Murray. 00:02:15.33\00:02:18.43 And, Irma, you work in Spanish department. 00:02:18.47\00:02:20.04 What do you do? 00:02:20.07\00:02:21.40 In Latino department as well, 00:02:21.44\00:02:23.51 I also have lots of little hats, 00:02:23.54\00:02:26.01 not big hats but little hats. 00:02:26.04\00:02:28.44 And I do production sometimes and I work with marketing. 00:02:28.48\00:02:33.58 I love how she's... Cable relations. 00:02:33.62\00:02:35.35 Yeah, I love how you said little hats 00:02:35.38\00:02:36.95 'cause I'm sure there's time those hats feel pretty heavy. 00:02:36.99\00:02:39.52 Heavy, yeah, they do. 00:02:39.55\00:02:41.52 And next to her is someone... 00:02:41.56\00:02:42.96 He's even taken his hair and maybe shaved it off, 00:02:42.99\00:02:46.06 seeing wear lots of hats at 3ABN. 00:02:46.09\00:02:49.43 As we stay on, that's what happens. 00:02:49.46\00:02:51.37 Well, it is family time. 00:02:55.60\00:02:57.57 You know how families care, right? 00:02:57.61\00:02:59.04 Indeed. 00:02:59.07\00:03:00.68 But you work with Proclaim now. 00:03:00.71\00:03:02.71 You're the general director, 00:03:02.74\00:03:04.08 and you also work for today program 00:03:04.11\00:03:05.71 and just whatever. 00:03:05.75\00:03:07.08 I mean, I don't know 00:03:07.12\00:03:08.45 there's anything you can't do, right? 00:03:08.48\00:03:09.82 Lot of whatever. Yeah. 00:03:09.85\00:03:11.19 I don't know if you would admit it or not but... 00:03:11.22\00:03:13.72 All the little things I can't do is to ask her about, 00:03:13.76\00:03:16.66 she can tell you what I can't... 00:03:16.69\00:03:18.49 I know one thing you guys haven't been able to do 00:03:18.53\00:03:20.70 and that's retire. 00:03:20.73\00:03:22.06 They've been talking about retiring. 00:03:22.10\00:03:23.43 We won't let them retire. I don't want you retire. 00:03:23.47\00:03:26.00 My lens of love would be lost without you. 00:03:26.03\00:03:28.34 That's right. 00:03:28.37\00:03:29.70 And we're gonna open this evening 00:03:29.74\00:03:31.17 with the song entitled "This world is not my home." 00:03:31.21\00:03:34.21 And we have, yes, we have Sister Marlene Hall 00:03:34.24\00:03:37.31 on the piano. 00:03:37.35\00:03:38.68 Sister Marlene. 00:03:38.71\00:03:40.05 This world is not my home 00:03:49.12\00:03:52.19 I'm just a passing through 00:03:52.23\00:03:55.10 My treasures are laid up 00:03:55.13\00:03:58.07 Somewhere beyond the blue 00:03:58.10\00:04:01.24 The angels beckon me 00:04:01.27\00:04:04.04 From heaven's open door 00:04:04.07\00:04:06.74 And I can't feel at home 00:04:06.78\00:04:09.74 In this world anymore 00:04:09.78\00:04:14.88 Oh, Lord, you know 00:04:14.92\00:04:17.55 I have no friend like you 00:04:17.59\00:04:20.56 If heaven's not my home 00:04:20.59\00:04:23.63 Then Lord what will I do 00:04:23.66\00:04:26.43 The angels beckon me 00:04:26.46\00:04:29.43 From heaven's open door 00:04:29.46\00:04:32.23 And I can't feel at home 00:04:32.27\00:04:35.20 In this world anymore 00:04:35.24\00:04:40.58 They're all expecting me 00:04:40.61\00:04:43.11 And that's one thing I know 00:04:43.14\00:04:46.28 My saviors pardoned me 00:04:46.31\00:04:49.08 And now I onward go 00:04:49.12\00:04:52.69 I know He'll take me through 00:04:52.72\00:04:55.62 Though I am weak and poor 00:04:55.66\00:04:58.33 And I can't feel at home 00:04:58.36\00:05:01.23 In this world anymore 00:05:01.26\00:05:06.33 Oh, Lord, you know 00:05:06.37\00:05:09.07 I have no friend like you 00:05:09.10\00:05:12.17 If heaven's not my home 00:05:12.21\00:05:15.14 Then Lord what will I do 00:05:15.18\00:05:18.21 The angels beckon me 00:05:18.25\00:05:21.12 From heaven's open door 00:05:21.15\00:05:23.95 And I can't feel at home 00:05:23.99\00:05:26.96 In this world anymore 00:05:26.99\00:05:31.93 Just over in glory land 00:05:31.96\00:05:35.30 We'll live eternally 00:05:35.33\00:05:38.50 The saints on every hand 00:05:38.53\00:05:41.34 Are shouting victory 00:05:41.37\00:05:44.57 Their songs of sweetest praise 00:05:44.61\00:05:47.38 Drift back from heaven's shore 00:05:47.41\00:05:50.35 And I can't feel at home 00:05:50.38\00:05:53.42 In this world anymore 00:05:53.45\00:05:58.69 Oh, Lord, you know I have no friend like you 00:05:58.72\00:06:04.16 If heaven's not my home 00:06:04.19\00:06:07.60 Then Lord what will I do 00:06:07.63\00:06:10.23 The angels beckon me 00:06:10.27\00:06:13.60 From heaven's open door 00:06:13.64\00:06:16.50 And I can't feel at home 00:06:16.54\00:06:19.57 In this world anymore 00:06:19.61\00:06:22.91 And I can't feel at home 00:06:22.94\00:06:26.18 In this world anymore 00:06:26.21\00:06:32.92 Amen. Amen. 00:06:32.95\00:06:34.46 Praise the Lord, I love that song. 00:06:34.49\00:06:36.16 I like that song. Yes, that is a happy song. 00:06:36.19\00:06:37.76 This world is not our home, 00:06:37.79\00:06:39.43 we really are just passing through. 00:06:39.46\00:06:40.80 Amen. Amen. 00:06:40.83\00:06:42.16 Thank you, Marlene. Wow. 00:06:42.20\00:06:44.67 Oh, mercy. 00:06:44.70\00:06:46.03 She just had some really, really good singers 00:06:46.07\00:06:47.80 over here, right? 00:06:47.84\00:06:49.17 At least for me, I'm talking about myself. 00:06:49.20\00:06:51.21 You guys sounded really good. I heard some parts. 00:06:51.24\00:06:53.88 I've been hearing your voice, that was awesome. 00:06:53.91\00:06:56.28 I know, in heaven, Jason, with those who has to struggle, 00:06:56.31\00:07:00.28 we're gonna be able to sing. 00:07:00.32\00:07:01.65 We might be able to play that piano. 00:07:01.68\00:07:03.02 That's right, Jason. Yeah, I would love that. 00:07:03.05\00:07:04.99 You know, how many, maybe thousands and thousands 00:07:05.02\00:07:07.09 that were singing right along with us. 00:07:07.12\00:07:08.46 Good, down to south. 00:07:08.49\00:07:09.82 I'm not talking about the angels of heaven 00:07:09.86\00:07:11.19 because they're making it beautiful. 00:07:11.23\00:07:12.56 People sitting at home, those of you sitting at home, 00:07:12.59\00:07:15.26 million people know this song. 00:07:15.30\00:07:17.73 And I bet they know every word 00:07:17.77\00:07:19.10 and they were just singing it to the glory of God. 00:07:19.13\00:07:21.80 So we are thankful you're doing that and joining us 00:07:21.84\00:07:23.64 and gonna have a good time together studying the word. 00:07:23.67\00:07:26.01 Agents for heaven. 00:07:26.04\00:07:28.41 You know, when I was reading this 00:07:28.44\00:07:30.31 and studying over it, I thought in actuality, 00:07:30.35\00:07:32.58 we might actually open a few cans of worms here. 00:07:32.61\00:07:34.95 Yes, yes. All right. 00:07:34.98\00:07:37.99 You know, but we all, that's true. 00:07:38.02\00:07:40.22 We do need to have prayer, 00:07:40.26\00:07:41.59 why don't we go ahead and just have prayer now? 00:07:41.62\00:07:42.96 I'm gonna do that. Yes, let's pray right now. 00:07:42.99\00:07:44.33 We're gonna invite those of you at home to pray along with us. 00:07:44.36\00:07:47.60 You know, and telling where you may be, 00:07:47.63\00:07:48.96 what's going on in your life. 00:07:49.00\00:07:50.33 But it's so nice that we can come together. 00:07:50.37\00:07:52.30 Bible says two or three come, 00:07:52.33\00:07:53.67 you know, any two agree or touch upon anything is sown. 00:07:53.70\00:07:56.50 I think so often we miss. 00:07:56.54\00:07:58.54 We miss so much because we don't spend that time 00:07:58.57\00:08:00.78 in really in prayer. 00:08:00.81\00:08:02.51 And I know for here when we study the Word of God, 00:08:02.54\00:08:05.01 if we, you know, if we don't pray, 00:08:05.05\00:08:07.62 something would be wrong. 00:08:07.65\00:08:08.98 Holy Spirit would be absent. 00:08:09.02\00:08:10.49 And it just be going through some motions here. 00:08:10.52\00:08:12.25 And would not affect any life, no one will be changed 00:08:12.29\00:08:16.46 because the power of the Holy Spirit 00:08:16.49\00:08:17.83 is not in full possession. 00:08:17.86\00:08:19.19 So that's what we pray for is that outpouring, 00:08:19.23\00:08:21.13 getting ready, something, maybe on the back-burner, 00:08:21.16\00:08:23.77 we're over here somewhere and just to move forward. 00:08:23.80\00:08:26.00 So we're gonna invite you pray along with us 00:08:26.03\00:08:27.70 for that power of the Holy Spirit. 00:08:27.74\00:08:29.37 Let's pray, shall we? 00:08:29.40\00:08:30.74 Loving Father in heaven, truly it is, 00:08:30.77\00:08:32.47 we thank You for another Sabbath day. 00:08:32.51\00:08:34.71 We thank You, we thank You, and we praise You for it. 00:08:34.74\00:08:37.38 It's so wonderful to know that after six days of labor 00:08:37.41\00:08:40.82 that we can lay everything down and as we come to you 00:08:40.85\00:08:44.39 and we lay our burdens, and our perplexities, 00:08:44.42\00:08:46.65 and our joys, and may our sorrows, 00:08:46.69\00:08:48.79 and things that we're perplexed about. 00:08:48.82\00:08:50.86 We can lay them at Your feet knowing sure well 00:08:50.89\00:08:54.13 that You'd love us with an everlasting love, 00:08:54.16\00:08:56.60 knowing the Bible has promised that You'd never leave us, 00:08:56.63\00:08:59.83 You'd never forsake us. 00:08:59.87\00:09:01.50 And for those who may be going through little struggle 00:09:01.54\00:09:03.44 right now tonight, 00:09:03.47\00:09:04.81 may it just change, change as we open 00:09:04.84\00:09:06.88 the beautiful pages of this book called the Bible. 00:09:06.91\00:09:09.61 May the Holy Spirit take possession of 00:09:09.64\00:09:11.68 each of our hearts and our minds. 00:09:11.71\00:09:14.08 Lord, it's not just another program, 00:09:14.12\00:09:17.65 we want it to be what you'd have it to be. 00:09:17.69\00:09:20.09 So we ask that You'd fill our hearts, 00:09:20.12\00:09:21.99 our minds with Thy sweet Holy Spirit. 00:09:22.02\00:09:24.83 Bless now, we pray to this end that we may hear Your voice 00:09:24.86\00:09:27.70 and that we may respond in Jesus' name, amen. 00:09:27.73\00:09:30.77 Amen. 00:09:30.80\00:09:32.63 For all out there that we'll work around here. 00:09:32.67\00:09:37.24 Well, in this study, we're gonna be looking at 00:09:37.27\00:09:39.81 how we can be agents of heaven. 00:09:39.84\00:09:41.94 Agents of heaven, in particular to those 00:09:41.98\00:09:44.65 who we may think 00:09:44.68\00:09:46.05 or we actually know might be an error. 00:09:46.08\00:09:49.82 You know, as I was reading through this, 00:09:49.85\00:09:52.12 I realized that so often, Christians, 00:09:52.15\00:09:54.76 we fall short in how to deal with one another. 00:09:54.79\00:09:58.36 And I can recall my parents many times saying 00:09:58.39\00:10:01.73 if it were just for the people in the church, 00:10:01.76\00:10:04.70 they wouldn't be coming to church. 00:10:04.73\00:10:07.84 So hopefully that's not any of you but I think that... 00:10:07.87\00:10:14.31 I think that we probably have all experienced 00:10:14.34\00:10:17.58 some of what we studied prior to this lesson. 00:10:17.61\00:10:21.22 I know Pastor Kenny, he was just sharing a story, 00:10:21.25\00:10:23.69 maybe he'll share it later but I know for myself, 00:10:23.72\00:10:25.99 I've experienced this where others have felt 00:10:26.02\00:10:28.79 maybe I had done something wrong 00:10:28.82\00:10:30.36 and how they dealt with me and I know I probably have, 00:10:30.39\00:10:33.70 especially, I might as well just admit it. 00:10:33.73\00:10:35.93 I know I haven't always done it properly myself. 00:10:35.96\00:10:39.03 So the Lord is so kind in reminding us 00:10:39.07\00:10:41.90 over and over and over again, 00:10:41.94\00:10:44.04 how we are to treat, how we are to respect, 00:10:44.07\00:10:47.28 how we are to love those He's died for. 00:10:47.31\00:10:50.38 That's wonderful, you know, like you said, 00:10:50.41\00:10:53.08 being in the work for years 00:10:53.11\00:10:54.58 and in ministry and different things, 00:10:54.62\00:10:56.42 is this the subject that's really misunderstood, 00:10:56.45\00:11:00.86 or people, we say ignorant, not knowing the subject 00:11:00.89\00:11:03.39 when it seems very simple 00:11:03.43\00:11:05.16 because it seems to be a subject 00:11:05.19\00:11:07.63 that is brutally abused. 00:11:07.66\00:11:10.43 And then always make excuses to say 00:11:10.47\00:11:13.84 I know what it says, but... 00:11:13.87\00:11:15.90 Have you felt that? I felt that. 00:11:15.94\00:11:17.77 It's interesting that comes out of a pastor's mouth 00:11:17.81\00:11:20.04 because as your wife was talking, 00:11:20.08\00:11:22.08 I was thinking, you know, as I was trying to think 00:11:22.11\00:11:25.25 the number of churches I pastored, I think it's seven. 00:11:25.28\00:11:28.88 And I find when you go to the church, 00:11:28.92\00:11:31.32 it's better to listen than to speak. 00:11:31.35\00:11:33.89 Listen to what people are telling you 00:11:33.92\00:11:35.72 because I found in churches in general, 00:11:35.76\00:11:39.69 Adventist church in particular, 00:11:39.73\00:11:41.30 people tend to project themselves 00:11:41.33\00:11:43.40 on to the church by saying that, I say this. 00:11:43.43\00:11:46.00 When you come to a new church, 00:11:46.03\00:11:47.47 there are those who will quickly tell you 00:11:47.50\00:11:48.87 what kind of church this is. 00:11:48.90\00:11:50.47 This is a cold church. This is not a nice church. 00:11:50.51\00:11:52.61 These people aren't friendly. 00:11:52.64\00:11:53.98 And then there are others come to, 00:11:54.01\00:11:55.34 and say this is such a warm church. 00:11:55.38\00:11:57.51 Everybody loves each other here. 00:11:57.55\00:11:59.05 And I tend to find that the cold people think 00:11:59.08\00:12:02.98 it's a cold church. 00:12:03.02\00:12:04.85 And the warm people think it's a warm church. 00:12:04.89\00:12:07.16 So what they're doing is projecting, JD, 00:12:07.19\00:12:09.12 their own personality on the church. 00:12:09.16\00:12:12.46 So when people speak to you, you really ought to listen 00:12:12.49\00:12:15.23 'cause they're telling you a lot about them 00:12:15.26\00:12:17.37 as much as they're telling you about the church. 00:12:17.40\00:12:19.23 Sometimes you go to a church 00:12:19.27\00:12:20.60 and people very quickly tell you, 00:12:20.64\00:12:21.97 "Oh, people here aren't friendly, 00:12:22.00\00:12:23.34 they're cliquish, they're clannish." 00:12:23.37\00:12:24.71 And there are people 00:12:24.74\00:12:26.07 who just find holes to pick all the time. 00:12:26.11\00:12:28.38 Then there are people, "Oh, this is the warmest church, 00:12:28.41\00:12:30.25 people are loving here." 00:12:30.28\00:12:31.61 And you'll find those are people 00:12:31.65\00:12:32.98 who tend to be warm and loving people 00:12:33.01\00:12:34.48 and tend to the see the world in that kind of lens. 00:12:34.52\00:12:38.02 So if God's people, 00:12:38.05\00:12:40.62 and I've got a text I want to sort of dig 00:12:40.66\00:12:42.46 into in just a little bit, 00:12:42.49\00:12:44.66 would work on being the kind of person 00:12:44.69\00:12:48.36 that they want people to be to them, 00:12:48.40\00:12:50.37 you would find the church would be much more harmonious. 00:12:50.40\00:12:52.63 And the thing about being a, real quick, I have a book. 00:12:52.67\00:12:57.84 And forgive me, on the cover of the book is a cartoon. 00:12:57.87\00:13:00.51 It's a picture of a guy laying on his back 00:13:00.54\00:13:03.08 and there's another fellow standing on his chest 00:13:03.11\00:13:04.95 with his Bible up in the air 00:13:04.98\00:13:06.38 and he's got the finger like this, you know, yeah. 00:13:06.41\00:13:07.75 Oh, yeah. Oh, yes. Okay, this is it. 00:13:07.78\00:13:10.09 He's got his Bible up in the air. 00:13:10.12\00:13:11.45 He's correcting this guy, 00:13:11.49\00:13:12.82 you know, by something on his chest. 00:13:12.85\00:13:14.49 And sometimes, we can do that. 00:13:14.52\00:13:15.92 We can give the wrong image of who God is, 00:13:15.96\00:13:19.89 and actually run people away from God 00:13:19.93\00:13:21.96 by our unchrist like attitude. 00:13:22.00\00:13:26.20 So, you know, Ellen White says Christ did utter, 00:13:26.23\00:13:28.90 and she says this word a lot, scathing rebukes, Christ, 00:13:28.94\00:13:32.77 but they were scathing rebukes against sin, 00:13:32.81\00:13:35.24 not against sinners. 00:13:35.28\00:13:37.61 And even when he did his scathing rebukes, 00:13:37.65\00:13:39.01 he had tears in his eyes. 00:13:39.05\00:13:40.38 So I'll take something from you, 00:13:40.42\00:13:42.15 if I know you care about me. 00:13:42.18\00:13:43.69 If I see tears in your eyes, I'll take it. 00:13:43.72\00:13:45.42 But if you're kind of just laying me out, 00:13:45.45\00:13:46.96 there's something in me, 00:13:46.99\00:13:48.32 you know, I'm not all there yet. 00:13:48.36\00:13:49.69 I'm on the way, I'm not there yet. 00:13:49.72\00:13:52.19 That will kind of resist that, but if I see the caring, 00:13:52.23\00:13:54.93 I'll take it. 00:13:54.96\00:13:56.30 I'll take the tongue lashing 00:13:56.33\00:13:57.67 because I knew you care about Me. 00:13:57.70\00:13:59.03 Yeah. 00:13:59.07\00:14:00.40 That's precisely, I think, 00:14:00.44\00:14:01.77 maybe the whole thing in a nutshell right there 00:14:01.80\00:14:03.14 where we need to get to. 00:14:03.17\00:14:04.51 Because if we were like that, 00:14:04.54\00:14:05.87 I mean we would certainly have a taste of heaven. 00:14:05.91\00:14:08.48 But most of the times, we're up, 00:14:08.51\00:14:09.84 we're standing on somebody. 00:14:09.88\00:14:11.21 We've got the Bible 00:14:11.25\00:14:12.58 and we've got our finger pointed. 00:14:12.61\00:14:13.95 And whether or not we go to them or not, 00:14:13.98\00:14:15.72 you know, sometimes we'd rather talk about them 00:14:15.75\00:14:18.12 than go to them. 00:14:18.15\00:14:19.49 And that's... 00:14:19.52\00:14:20.86 I've got quotes on that too, 00:14:20.89\00:14:22.22 that's actually you're working for the enemy. 00:14:22.26\00:14:24.23 But I need to know, as the pastor mentioned. 00:14:24.26\00:14:26.73 And you talk to a lot of people on the phone, 00:14:26.76\00:14:28.33 lot of people as you travel. 00:14:28.36\00:14:29.80 I need to know to the best of my ability that they care. 00:14:29.83\00:14:34.64 That's the whole thing. I'm like you. 00:14:34.67\00:14:36.10 I can take a rebuke 00:14:36.14\00:14:37.47 and people can really chew and go. 00:14:37.51\00:14:39.17 If I know they really care, I'll give you example. 00:14:39.21\00:14:40.81 My mother used to do a lot of correcting, 00:14:40.84\00:14:43.38 you know, for 12 years, 00:14:43.41\00:14:45.25 she went to church as a pastor so, you know, as mommas, 00:14:45.28\00:14:48.98 you know and they're and what? 00:14:49.02\00:14:50.35 That I could always listen to that sweet voice. 00:14:50.39\00:14:54.29 Even though she might be in off track 00:14:54.32\00:14:56.06 because some things she didn't understand the ins and outs 00:14:56.09\00:14:58.63 that might be in business meeting, 00:14:58.66\00:15:00.03 board meeting, 00:15:00.06\00:15:01.40 things you can't really reveal but she'd give her two cents. 00:15:01.43\00:15:04.47 But I knew she cared. 00:15:04.50\00:15:07.27 But when she said, 00:15:07.30\00:15:08.64 I talked to so and so the other day 00:15:08.67\00:15:10.04 and they said you ought to do so and so. 00:15:10.07\00:15:13.27 Couple times, I caught myself, I said, 00:15:13.31\00:15:14.74 really since when they had my interest at heart. 00:15:14.78\00:15:18.25 Have to pray. 00:15:18.28\00:15:19.61 But it balances out as you need to know 00:15:19.65\00:15:22.35 that we need to know somebody cares 00:15:22.38\00:15:24.89 and that they love you, 00:15:24.92\00:15:26.25 and that's why they come to you in some of the quotes 00:15:26.29\00:15:28.02 and different ones that you'll have on here was, 00:15:28.06\00:15:29.92 unless we can do that we need not go to anyone else 00:15:29.96\00:15:34.23 who try to help them out 00:15:34.26\00:15:35.60 if we're not really on the right track. 00:15:35.63\00:15:36.97 And I think that one of the issues is the fact 00:15:37.00\00:15:39.33 that people confuse their standard 00:15:39.37\00:15:41.84 for God's standard. 00:15:41.87\00:15:43.20 So people will have their own interpretation 00:15:43.24\00:15:47.18 or their own standard 00:15:47.21\00:15:49.18 but God's standard is totally different. 00:15:49.21\00:15:51.05 So like you're saying, 00:15:51.08\00:15:52.41 how people are just holding their Bible 00:15:52.45\00:15:54.02 and thumping them over the head. 00:15:54.05\00:15:56.62 Where were they before in their own lives? 00:15:56.65\00:15:59.65 How much patience, and love, 00:15:59.69\00:16:01.02 and kindness has God shown them? 00:16:01.06\00:16:04.69 Amen. 00:16:04.73\00:16:06.06 But yet that's not carried out in their rebukes, 00:16:06.09\00:16:08.40 you know, there is a way to have a loving rebuke. 00:16:08.43\00:16:12.07 And the Bible teaches about that, right? 00:16:12.10\00:16:14.90 Who was it that owned someone a lot of money 00:16:14.94\00:16:17.97 and the king forgave him 00:16:18.01\00:16:19.97 and yet right after he forgave him 00:16:20.01\00:16:22.14 and didn't put him in prison, then he goes out 00:16:22.18\00:16:23.98 and someone who owed him just a little bit, 00:16:24.01\00:16:26.41 he demanded it and had him thrown in prison. 00:16:26.45\00:16:28.88 So, you know, I think the Lord has to teach us over and over 00:16:28.92\00:16:33.59 because unfortunately 00:16:33.62\00:16:34.96 we have trouble getting it right the first time. 00:16:34.99\00:16:37.86 JD, I want you to talk about owe somebody? 00:16:37.89\00:16:41.53 Didn't he grab the garb by the neck? 00:16:41.56\00:16:44.03 He got him by the throat. He surely did. 00:16:44.07\00:16:46.03 You know what I'm saying. 00:16:46.07\00:16:47.40 I'm gonna get, you're gonna do the right thing. 00:16:47.44\00:16:48.97 I'm gonna make you do the right thing. 00:16:49.00\00:16:50.34 Well, that's, you know, 00:16:50.37\00:16:51.71 that made a little different situation 00:16:51.74\00:16:53.07 then in our Christian walk. 00:16:53.11\00:16:55.18 It doesn't work. No, it doesn't work. 00:16:55.21\00:16:57.68 You know, the things that I'm learning over the years 00:16:57.71\00:16:59.91 and everything is how consistent a person is, 00:16:59.95\00:17:02.32 you know, if they're consistently a shaker, 00:17:02.35\00:17:05.59 all right, we can deal with that, 00:17:05.62\00:17:08.02 you know, we can work in love. 00:17:08.06\00:17:10.09 When you're a peace maker by nature, 00:17:10.13\00:17:12.09 you're looking to those gentle, more gentle compassionate eyes. 00:17:12.13\00:17:16.00 And so, you kind of overlook once they shake. 00:17:16.03\00:17:21.47 But now if you're shaker with a shaker, 00:17:21.50\00:17:24.74 now all of a sudden, it can get unchristian like. 00:17:24.77\00:17:29.51 But what I found out that 00:17:29.54\00:17:31.11 if they truly have a heart for God, 00:17:31.15\00:17:33.98 they then know who to go to. 00:17:34.02\00:17:36.18 And invariably they go to the peacemakers 00:17:36.22\00:17:38.62 because they do care. 00:17:38.65\00:17:40.09 I do sense the Holy Spirit is impressing upon them 00:17:40.12\00:17:43.53 that there is an issue 00:17:43.56\00:17:44.99 and they do want to be kind of rebuked 00:17:45.03\00:17:48.66 rather than popped. 00:17:48.70\00:17:50.97 And now, who are they really? 00:17:51.00\00:17:55.44 Is that the battle that they're fighting? 00:17:55.47\00:17:57.47 It may be that my battle being a peacemaker 00:17:57.51\00:18:01.14 could be over here. 00:18:01.18\00:18:03.18 Has nothing to do with being angry 00:18:03.21\00:18:05.31 or having attitude issue. 00:18:05.35\00:18:07.28 And, but time goes on, 00:18:07.32\00:18:10.59 but if you're consistent with who you are 00:18:10.62\00:18:12.75 and then if they truly want to grow 00:18:12.79\00:18:14.69 as you were talking about while ago, CA, 00:18:14.72\00:18:16.52 if they truly want to grow, 00:18:16.56\00:18:18.49 the Holy Spirit is there to continue to woo them. 00:18:18.53\00:18:22.46 And, I mean, I know people today, 00:18:22.50\00:18:24.73 they're just some of my favorite people. 00:18:24.77\00:18:27.27 Boy, what a past they had. Oh, absolutely. 00:18:27.30\00:18:30.21 And so that's good news, you know. 00:18:30.24\00:18:32.51 Yes. That's good news. 00:18:32.54\00:18:33.88 Yeah. Amen. 00:18:33.91\00:18:35.24 But that's one reason that through the Bible 00:18:35.28\00:18:37.28 that we've been studying through Spirit of Prophecy 00:18:37.31\00:18:39.28 that we've been reading in preparation for this 00:18:39.31\00:18:42.25 that God is bringing out that we're not to be browbeaters. 00:18:42.28\00:18:47.19 We're not to go over, 00:18:47.22\00:18:48.56 "I told you this, or this is wrong. 00:18:48.59\00:18:50.76 You shouldn't be doing this." 00:18:50.79\00:18:52.59 You know, we're to come with them. 00:18:52.63\00:18:54.40 One of the quotes that I could not have find, 00:18:54.43\00:18:56.13 I have a lot here but one I could not find was 00:18:56.16\00:18:59.53 Mrs. White brought out that we need to love 00:18:59.57\00:19:02.20 that person enough before we go to them 00:19:02.24\00:19:05.51 that we're willing to die for them. 00:19:05.54\00:19:07.28 That's love. Yeah, that's forgiving. 00:19:07.31\00:19:09.38 That's why in the one quote, I might as well read it now. 00:19:09.41\00:19:11.98 I was gonna save it for later but you brought it up already. 00:19:12.01\00:19:14.48 This one is from Steps to Christ. 00:19:14.52\00:19:16.72 That's why this is so valuable 00:19:16.75\00:19:19.55 because Christ is constantly telling us 00:19:19.59\00:19:22.22 to deny your service, 00:19:22.26\00:19:23.59 it's not that we're not to go speak to somebody, we are. 00:19:23.63\00:19:26.66 If we have odd against one another, 00:19:26.70\00:19:29.06 or we actually see someone in error, 00:19:29.10\00:19:31.43 but it's how we do it. 00:19:31.47\00:19:33.10 Amen. 00:19:33.13\00:19:34.47 He's always telling us over and over, 00:19:34.50\00:19:36.14 "Don't browbeat, don't put them down, 00:19:36.17\00:19:39.14 don't belittle them, but love them back." 00:19:39.17\00:19:43.41 There's a different way to talk to people than 00:19:43.45\00:19:45.45 what we generally find ourselves entangled in. 00:19:45.48\00:19:49.12 And so we all need to listen. 00:19:49.15\00:19:51.12 This one is from Steps to Christ. 00:19:51.15\00:19:52.49 This is what Pastor CA was quoting. 00:19:52.52\00:19:55.26 It says, "Jesus did not suppress one word of truth. 00:19:55.29\00:19:58.69 In other words, 00:19:58.73\00:20:00.06 and even part of what our lesson is for tonight. 00:20:00.10\00:20:02.20 It's not what they were not supposed to say, 00:20:02.23\00:20:04.23 in fact, Mrs. White many a times 00:20:04.27\00:20:06.67 didn't want to get up and give the rebukes 00:20:06.70\00:20:09.14 that she was given to give. 00:20:09.17\00:20:11.71 The Lord told her to give it, you know, but through a kind, 00:20:11.74\00:20:15.98 loving heart, she gave it. 00:20:16.01\00:20:18.31 Not browbeating just as Christ did, 00:20:18.35\00:20:21.15 but He uttered it always in love. 00:20:21.18\00:20:25.25 He exercised the greatest, tactless into that. 00:20:25.29\00:20:28.86 How many times you'll... 00:20:28.89\00:20:30.23 'Cause a lot of times, we get emotional, we're upset. 00:20:30.26\00:20:34.26 You know attack is thrown out of the window. 00:20:34.30\00:20:37.83 And thoughtful, kind attention in His inner course 00:20:37.87\00:20:41.37 with the people. 00:20:41.40\00:20:42.74 He was... 00:20:42.77\00:20:44.11 This hit me hard, He was never rude. 00:20:44.14\00:20:46.64 Amen. 00:20:46.68\00:20:48.34 Never needlessly spoke a severe word. 00:20:48.38\00:20:53.58 Never gave needless pain to a sensitive soul. 00:20:53.62\00:20:59.02 He did not censor human weakness, 00:20:59.05\00:21:01.62 He spoke the truth but always in love. 00:21:01.66\00:21:04.66 He denounced hypocrisy, unbelief, 00:21:04.69\00:21:07.00 and iniquity but tears were in His voice 00:21:07.03\00:21:11.33 as He uttered His scathing rebukes. 00:21:11.37\00:21:13.90 He wept over Jerusalem, the city He loved." 00:21:13.94\00:21:18.04 It was His mission to come and to save all of those, 00:21:18.07\00:21:23.21 save all of us who are in error. 00:21:23.24\00:21:25.21 I quoted that just this past Sabbath 00:21:25.25\00:21:26.85 and that sermon got exact passage 00:21:26.88\00:21:29.28 that He never gave needless pain. 00:21:29.32\00:21:31.52 You know, the thing about life is 00:21:31.55\00:21:32.89 and I wrote a book several years ago, 00:21:32.92\00:21:34.26 good number of years ago, 00:21:34.29\00:21:35.62 I'll call it "I Will Fear No Evil." 00:21:35.66\00:21:37.09 And in it, one of the things I said is most people know 00:21:37.13\00:21:42.86 when they're wrong, when they've made a mistake. 00:21:42.90\00:21:44.53 There are some who walk through life 00:21:44.57\00:21:45.90 and never think that they never did anything wrong. 00:21:45.93\00:21:47.57 They're really unaware of who they are and what they are. 00:21:47.60\00:21:49.97 But the average person, 00:21:50.01\00:21:51.34 when they do something wrong, they know. 00:21:51.37\00:21:54.88 And when they come in a broken condition, 00:21:54.91\00:21:59.88 they don't really need you to grind your heel into them. 00:21:59.91\00:22:03.39 That's not what they need. 00:22:03.42\00:22:05.75 They're coming because they are broken 00:22:05.79\00:22:07.19 and they don't need you to power, 00:22:07.22\00:22:08.56 pulverize them, you know, that fracture, 00:22:08.59\00:22:10.16 they don't need you to pulverize. 00:22:10.19\00:22:11.59 So the kind hand, the... 00:22:11.63\00:22:14.80 And Ellen White says this 00:22:14.83\00:22:16.16 and I'm not sure where it's found 00:22:16.20\00:22:17.53 but I remember reading this 00:22:17.57\00:22:18.90 that kindness is never inappropriate. 00:22:18.93\00:22:21.87 It's never appropriate to be kind. 00:22:21.90\00:22:23.84 You might say, 00:22:23.87\00:22:25.21 "Well, this person needed a good tongue lashing." 00:22:25.24\00:22:26.57 Well, you don't know that. 00:22:26.61\00:22:28.31 That may be inappropriate 00:22:28.34\00:22:29.88 but kindness is not inappropriate. 00:22:29.91\00:22:32.21 So can you ever say, "You know what, I was too kind to them, 00:22:32.25\00:22:35.62 I was too merciful?" 00:22:35.65\00:22:36.99 You know, that's where I don't know, 00:22:37.02\00:22:39.12 and I was just too nice. 00:22:39.15\00:22:40.96 And I've heard people say that. 00:22:40.99\00:22:42.32 But that's more of a self thing than it's a God thing, 00:22:42.36\00:22:45.03 you know, because it's never inappropriate to be kind. 00:22:45.06\00:22:47.06 And when people come to you bleeding and battered, 00:22:47.10\00:22:50.37 you're going to give them a razor blade 00:22:50.40\00:22:51.73 and say, "You know, finish the job," 00:22:51.77\00:22:53.50 or are you going to give them a band aid? 00:22:53.54\00:22:55.40 They need some healing and they need some wholeness. 00:22:55.44\00:22:57.57 And that's what I think that alludes to it. 00:22:57.61\00:22:58.94 You know, I had an experience somewhat like that 00:22:58.97\00:23:00.81 but this was me and a dog. 00:23:00.84\00:23:04.88 You know, and it seems all right thinking about. 00:23:04.91\00:23:07.25 This just happened yesterday. 00:23:07.28\00:23:09.18 So, you know, confession is good for the soul 00:23:09.22\00:23:11.05 so we don't have to look at it 00:23:11.09\00:23:12.42 but through the study of this and looking. 00:23:12.45\00:23:14.89 I was like what, walked out on the porch. 00:23:14.92\00:23:18.03 And of course, you know, 00:23:18.06\00:23:19.39 we had a dog that loves to tear up anything 00:23:19.43\00:23:21.20 he can get his mouth on to, you know, 00:23:21.23\00:23:23.37 you got to have a ball, 00:23:23.40\00:23:24.73 he's got to have us stick it all the time in his... 00:23:24.77\00:23:27.47 And I walked out there 00:23:27.50\00:23:28.84 and he had taken one of the mats up off the chairs 00:23:28.87\00:23:30.44 and he just ripped it to shreds. 00:23:30.47\00:23:32.87 It was all pieces every which way 00:23:32.91\00:23:34.71 and he is right in the middle of it, 00:23:34.74\00:23:36.08 just having a big time, you know. 00:23:36.11\00:23:37.75 So I thought, "Oh, man." You know, you're good. 00:23:37.78\00:23:39.91 You catch him around in the act, 00:23:39.95\00:23:41.28 there's a good time to let him know 00:23:41.32\00:23:43.12 he's not supposed to do it. 00:23:43.15\00:23:44.49 So we would just a little bit a piece of foam, you know. 00:23:44.52\00:23:46.65 So I looked at him, he went, "Oh, like, I know what," 00:23:46.69\00:23:49.12 so I took the phone up." 00:23:49.16\00:23:50.49 You know, I did boom, boom, boom, boom, 00:23:50.53\00:23:52.19 bang forced on his nose. 00:23:52.23\00:23:53.56 Don't do this boy, don't this. 00:23:53.60\00:23:56.00 And all of a sudden, he did, you know, 00:23:56.03\00:23:58.07 he rolled over on his back and put all, 00:23:58.10\00:24:01.74 he gave up all four legs up into the air. 00:24:01.77\00:24:04.87 And I thought this is unacceptable, 00:24:04.91\00:24:06.44 he hasn't learned yet. 00:24:06.47\00:24:07.81 It reminds you of what, sometime we do as Christians, 00:24:12.21\00:24:15.08 you know what I'm saying to human beings 00:24:15.12\00:24:17.92 because I felt right then, he has not learned his lesson. 00:24:17.95\00:24:20.56 Next time I come out, he's going to be into another 00:24:20.59\00:24:22.42 so two, three little swats now didn't hurt him 00:24:22.46\00:24:25.36 but it was just enough, 00:24:25.39\00:24:26.73 "You don't do this kind of stuff right here." 00:24:26.76\00:24:28.63 And I said to him and looked at him. 00:24:28.66\00:24:31.43 All four... 00:24:31.47\00:24:32.80 So you'll give him some more kindness. 00:24:32.83\00:24:34.17 He submitted, he submitted. 00:24:34.20\00:24:37.01 And I really not feel like again, I don't feel, 00:24:37.04\00:24:38.87 I think you have but I might ought to do 00:24:38.91\00:24:40.48 and I thought, poor dog is laid there, 00:24:40.51\00:24:43.51 he's rolled up and he said, "Okay, I give, 00:24:43.55\00:24:45.78 I caught what you said," maybe you know, 00:24:45.81\00:24:48.42 so maybe when we're talking to others 00:24:48.45\00:24:51.39 and we understand they come with contrition, 00:24:51.42\00:24:54.19 they want to get change in their life. 00:24:54.22\00:24:56.02 You never go and smack and beat and bring up what they did 00:24:56.06\00:24:59.29 and how they did it and why they did it. 00:24:59.33\00:25:01.80 You put some ointment, balm of Gilead on them. 00:25:01.83\00:25:05.97 And I said one of best thing I've read one time, 00:25:06.00\00:25:08.14 it says and some time with these individuals 00:25:08.17\00:25:10.51 who had been hurt so bad and maybe hurt others 00:25:10.54\00:25:12.67 and you go to them because that is a job of the church 00:25:12.71\00:25:15.84 who are pastors, the leaders. 00:25:15.88\00:25:17.88 And one thing I learned too, 00:25:17.91\00:25:19.25 I had to be very careful about it is talking about here 00:25:19.28\00:25:21.05 in our memory verse there, talks about here. 00:25:21.08\00:25:24.89 The one who is spiritual, go see them. 00:25:24.92\00:25:29.42 I look that word up and I thought, "Oh, my!" 00:25:29.46\00:25:31.49 That means one who is filled of the Holy Spirit 00:25:31.53\00:25:34.20 and the Spirit of God is the one 00:25:34.23\00:25:36.43 that goes to win that soul back. 00:25:36.46\00:25:38.27 Not just who almost said some jackleg going out there, 00:25:38.30\00:25:41.60 you know, who's going, 00:25:41.64\00:25:42.97 "I'm going to take care of this situation 00:25:43.00\00:25:44.34 because it's not right." 00:25:44.37\00:25:46.14 So one that is spiritual, 00:25:46.17\00:25:47.94 so lessons we can learn on those things. 00:25:47.98\00:25:50.38 One thing that I have learned 00:25:50.41\00:25:51.91 because I've learned that some people like... 00:25:51.95\00:25:54.45 Let's talk about the dog. What's the dog's name? 00:25:54.48\00:25:56.69 Riley. Riley, poor Riley. 00:25:56.72\00:25:58.35 Riley, poor Riley. 00:25:58.39\00:25:59.72 He possibly could... 00:25:59.75\00:26:01.92 Riley could sit here you know pound with all four 00:26:01.96\00:26:06.06 and everything and then this is a game, 00:26:06.09\00:26:07.70 I like this, you know. 00:26:07.73\00:26:09.16 You don't know what he got. 00:26:09.20\00:26:10.53 But there are people that really like madness. 00:26:10.57\00:26:14.17 They like being in the pigsty, they love confrontation. 00:26:14.20\00:26:19.71 And so maybe purposely, 00:26:19.74\00:26:21.14 they're just setting up to get the attention that they need. 00:26:21.18\00:26:24.01 They can be. 00:26:24.05\00:26:25.38 You know, what I have found that, 00:26:25.41\00:26:29.45 "Let's start everything off with prayer." 00:26:29.48\00:26:31.22 Yes. 00:26:31.25\00:26:32.59 Now let's get on a level ground. 00:26:32.62\00:26:35.22 And does it always work? 00:26:35.26\00:26:36.62 Not always, but most of the time it works because... 00:26:36.66\00:26:39.66 And I don't want to be in control. 00:26:39.69\00:26:43.00 Why don't I open with prayer and you close with prayer 00:26:43.03\00:26:45.87 before we've ever said another word? 00:26:45.90\00:26:48.00 And it seems like that has a way of diffusing. 00:26:48.04\00:26:51.14 But it tells us, it was talking about our memory verse. 00:26:51.17\00:26:53.34 It's a fantastic one. 1 Peter 3:8. 00:26:53.38\00:26:57.15 And I want to read out in a NIV 00:26:57.18\00:26:58.51 'cause it was the simplest for me to understand. 00:26:58.55\00:27:01.45 I'm not saying it's any better than any of the others 00:27:01.48\00:27:03.39 but I just like it. 00:27:03.42\00:27:04.92 "Finally all of you..." 00:27:04.95\00:27:06.29 Now this is Peter talking and he's saying, 00:27:06.32\00:27:07.66 "Hey, all of you, all of you, be likeminded, 00:27:07.69\00:27:11.23 be sympathetic, love one another, 00:27:11.26\00:27:13.80 be compassionate, and humble." 00:27:13.83\00:27:16.33 And then in verse 9, he really drives it home. 00:27:16.36\00:27:20.20 "Do not repay evil with evil or insult with insult. 00:27:20.24\00:27:23.81 On the contrary, my dear brother, 00:27:23.84\00:27:26.78 my dear sister, repay evil with blessing 00:27:26.81\00:27:30.91 because to you, 00:27:30.95\00:27:34.02 because to this, you were called 00:27:34.05\00:27:36.12 so that you may inherit the blessing." 00:27:36.15\00:27:39.19 Amen. 00:27:39.22\00:27:40.56 Now, we all like good gifts 00:27:40.59\00:27:42.92 but we have no idea of the blessing 00:27:42.96\00:27:44.93 of being rewarded by the king of the universe. 00:27:44.96\00:27:49.13 But so, he says being likeminded, 00:27:49.16\00:27:51.60 being likeminded, you know, where it doesn't say 00:27:51.63\00:27:54.10 that we shouldn't have disagreements 00:27:54.14\00:27:56.44 but we should have different opinions, 00:27:56.47\00:27:58.97 but we should have a common agreement. 00:27:59.01\00:28:02.51 And that is, we have fundamental beliefs 00:28:02.54\00:28:04.68 that we believe in, you know, and to that. 00:28:04.71\00:28:06.95 But then let the Holy Spirit 00:28:06.98\00:28:08.88 take care of those personality issues. 00:28:08.92\00:28:10.89 No, absolutely. 00:28:10.92\00:28:12.55 But we're looking, it's kind of a self-examination 00:28:12.59\00:28:16.12 because if we have that personality, 00:28:16.16\00:28:18.56 if we're one of those that go in aggressively, 00:28:18.59\00:28:21.93 you know, the Lord is teaching us that 00:28:21.96\00:28:24.13 that's not the right way. 00:28:24.17\00:28:26.17 And if we would follow... 00:28:26.20\00:28:27.77 If we would follow... 00:28:27.80\00:28:29.14 Yes, we would, really would have 00:28:29.17\00:28:31.37 an atmosphere of heaven here on this earth. 00:28:31.41\00:28:34.41 Back to our lesson, I think this is this day with God. 00:28:34.44\00:28:39.08 And then I'm going to read a couple other, 00:28:39.11\00:28:41.02 one is the upward look and then Matthew. 00:28:41.05\00:28:42.98 I'll finish with Matthew 25. 00:28:43.02\00:28:44.49 It says, "Those who are quick to censure others 00:28:44.52\00:28:48.29 who speak words," and you mention this, 00:28:48.32\00:28:50.66 Pastor CA, "who speak words that cut 00:28:50.69\00:28:53.93 and bruise the already wounded soul." 00:28:53.96\00:28:57.17 And listen closely, family at home, 00:28:57.20\00:28:59.93 "are doing Satan's work." 00:28:59.97\00:29:02.47 Yes. 00:29:02.50\00:29:03.84 You're not doing the work of God. 00:29:03.87\00:29:05.21 So many people they go out, like you've mentioned, 00:29:05.24\00:29:07.68 with the Bible standing on top, pointing the finger, 00:29:07.71\00:29:10.45 "Oh, I'm doing this for the church, 00:29:10.48\00:29:12.58 I'm doing this for the Lord. 00:29:12.61\00:29:13.95 This is... I'm called to do this. 00:29:13.98\00:29:15.58 They're in error and I have to straighten it out." 00:29:15.62\00:29:17.62 No, you're working for Satan. 00:29:17.65\00:29:21.72 And are laborers of the prince of darkness. 00:29:21.76\00:29:25.09 Now the upward look says 00:29:25.13\00:29:27.10 and I think you've mentioned this somewhat too, 00:29:27.13\00:29:29.56 we are to guard carefully and that would... 00:29:29.60\00:29:32.10 this is bringing home to us, Sister Irma. 00:29:32.13\00:29:34.77 We, you and I are to guard carefully against wounding 00:29:34.80\00:29:38.74 or bruising the hearts of God's children. 00:29:38.77\00:29:42.91 And you could say, 00:29:42.94\00:29:44.28 "Well, they weren't God's child, really?" 00:29:44.31\00:29:47.15 He came to seek and save that which was lost. 00:29:47.18\00:29:49.52 Amen. He's not his child, right. 00:29:49.55\00:29:51.65 He's still extending His mercy, it's His grace... 00:29:51.69\00:29:54.22 Who is not His child? To them. 00:29:54.26\00:29:55.76 But, you know, we had an illustration on it, 00:29:55.79\00:29:57.19 I might have mentioned it one time before, 00:29:57.23\00:29:58.93 just as, you know, 00:29:58.96\00:30:00.30 you're praying for someone to come back. 00:30:00.33\00:30:03.10 They've left, you know, the church. 00:30:03.13\00:30:04.47 They're outside 00:30:04.50\00:30:05.83 and they're living for the world 00:30:05.87\00:30:07.20 and the things of the world and naturally when you do that, 00:30:07.24\00:30:09.54 a lot of times you begin to talk like them, 00:30:09.57\00:30:11.67 eat like them, dress like them, what the world has, you know. 00:30:11.71\00:30:15.38 So we're praying for about four, five years 00:30:15.41\00:30:17.21 for this one young lady, 00:30:17.25\00:30:18.71 actually was part of the family. 00:30:18.75\00:30:20.92 And came in one Sabbath morning, 00:30:20.95\00:30:23.72 you know, looked through the glass doors 00:30:23.75\00:30:25.22 and here she walks up. 00:30:25.25\00:30:27.36 And I seen her, I did, 00:30:27.39\00:30:28.72 "Oh, praise the Lord, answer to prayer. 00:30:28.76\00:30:31.19 She's coming back in the door," you know. 00:30:31.23\00:30:33.73 And when the deacon was standing at the door, 00:30:33.76\00:30:36.56 she stepped up into that and greet us, said, 00:30:36.60\00:30:38.70 "Well, hi how are you doing?" 00:30:38.73\00:30:40.07 'Cause he knew her well. "Hi, how are you doing?" 00:30:40.10\00:30:42.00 She said, "Well, I'm doing fine. 00:30:42.04\00:30:43.51 I felt like I needed to get back, 00:30:43.54\00:30:46.61 you know, my life's been a wreck, 00:30:46.64\00:30:48.01 and I needed to get back." 00:30:48.04\00:30:49.74 He stepped back and he looked at her, 00:30:49.78\00:30:51.35 of course, she put on a lot of things that, 00:30:51.38\00:30:53.21 you know, Bible may be teaches against. 00:30:53.25\00:30:55.22 And he said, "Well, I'd say one thing, 00:30:55.25\00:30:56.89 I hope you don't fall in the pool 'cause if you do, 00:30:56.92\00:30:58.72 you'd drown with all that stuff." 00:30:58.75\00:31:00.16 Oh, man. Oh, man. 00:31:00.19\00:31:01.52 She did an about face, 00:31:01.56\00:31:03.83 this is true, she did an about face, 00:31:03.86\00:31:05.56 walked out those doors 00:31:05.59\00:31:07.26 and that's been many, many years ago 00:31:07.30\00:31:11.30 and she's never returned nor does she plan on it. 00:31:11.33\00:31:14.77 If that's the way people think of me, say, 00:31:14.80\00:31:18.57 there was a group, 00:31:18.61\00:31:19.94 "Ah, we're so glad, you're here, 00:31:19.97\00:31:21.41 we'd look beyond that. 00:31:21.44\00:31:22.78 We didn't care what they had on the time, 00:31:22.81\00:31:24.35 you know that doesn't matter." 00:31:24.38\00:31:25.81 But then you got the others gonna look at 00:31:25.85\00:31:27.62 and you're wound and you're hurt 00:31:27.65\00:31:29.32 and it could be for eternity and that's what we're saying. 00:31:29.35\00:31:31.12 Very careful. 00:31:31.15\00:31:33.02 That's precisely what it's saying here 00:31:33.05\00:31:35.06 because when we do this, 00:31:35.09\00:31:36.42 when we wound and when we bruise others, 00:31:36.46\00:31:38.53 we wound and we bruise the heart of Christ as well. 00:31:38.56\00:31:41.03 Matthew 25:40, just to bring it home, 00:31:41.06\00:31:44.93 "In as much as ye have done it 00:31:44.97\00:31:47.40 unto the least of these my brethren..." 00:31:47.44\00:31:49.44 And that was Christ walking into that church's door. 00:31:49.47\00:31:52.71 That young lady was Christ walking in. 00:31:52.74\00:31:54.81 Wow. "Ye have done it unto me." 00:31:54.84\00:31:58.61 You know, John, 1 John, it says that, 00:31:58.65\00:32:03.69 "If we don't love one and other or love others, 00:32:03.72\00:32:07.92 we don't know God." 00:32:07.96\00:32:09.39 You know, we don't have God in us. 00:32:09.42\00:32:11.66 And I was thinking that we had a pastor 00:32:11.69\00:32:17.10 that came to our church 00:32:17.13\00:32:19.07 and the first thing he told us, he says, 00:32:19.10\00:32:23.54 he looked around and things how they were. 00:32:23.57\00:32:26.64 He says, "You sing too much, 00:32:26.68\00:32:28.24 it's too much singing in this church. 00:32:28.28\00:32:30.65 And everybody, if you're not vegan, 00:32:30.68\00:32:33.88 you're not going to heaven." 00:32:33.92\00:32:35.45 And in the first sermon came with a kidney 00:32:35.48\00:32:38.52 or something in a jar on the pulpit 00:32:38.55\00:32:42.36 and then he told us like that, he says, 00:32:42.39\00:32:45.86 "Every church I go, I fix it." 00:32:45.89\00:32:49.06 So to this day there are only about 00:32:49.10\00:32:51.83 five members in the church. 00:32:51.87\00:32:54.84 But I work for this school in Massachusetts 00:32:54.87\00:32:59.41 and I worked in there for about three years. 00:32:59.44\00:33:02.54 And we had my supervisor, 00:33:02.58\00:33:05.28 I don't know what denomination he was, 00:33:05.31\00:33:08.02 he was not an Adventist 00:33:08.05\00:33:10.72 but he was the most gentlemen that I ever have seen. 00:33:10.75\00:33:16.32 And he dealt with everybody in such kind ways sometimes, 00:33:16.36\00:33:21.70 you know, we knew that people had done things wrong 00:33:21.73\00:33:25.33 and they were in order. 00:33:25.37\00:33:26.80 And he will call them in the office and will say, 00:33:26.84\00:33:30.77 "Oh, so what happened, what did he say?" 00:33:30.81\00:33:32.54 Because we knew exactly what they have done. 00:33:32.57\00:33:34.68 "Oh," he says, "Nothing, he just gave me 00:33:34.71\00:33:39.01 some good advice about doing something." 00:33:39.05\00:33:42.98 He say, "He didn't say anything about that." 00:33:43.02\00:33:45.82 And then I realized 00:33:45.85\00:33:47.52 when we would have meetings that he was... 00:33:47.56\00:33:52.76 he has such a talent of telling you 00:33:52.79\00:33:56.77 what you did wrong that you didn't even know. 00:33:56.80\00:34:00.47 That you wouldn't even know that he did 00:34:00.50\00:34:02.70 because he built you up instead. 00:34:02.74\00:34:05.94 And I know that there were people 00:34:05.97\00:34:08.54 that they were very dishonest in doing things, 00:34:08.58\00:34:11.51 you know, workers and he will build them up. 00:34:11.55\00:34:15.25 He will go by there, "Oh, thank you so much for that, 00:34:15.28\00:34:18.39 such a wonderful job that you're doing today." 00:34:18.42\00:34:21.79 And what a difference. Yeah. 00:34:21.82\00:34:24.69 So people just love him. 00:34:24.73\00:34:26.70 And then before, you know, you see people changing 00:34:26.73\00:34:30.20 and not doing were afraid to do the things 00:34:30.23\00:34:34.94 that they were doing before 00:34:34.97\00:34:36.30 because they were reprimanded with such love and kindness. 00:34:36.34\00:34:40.94 It makes such a difference. 00:34:40.98\00:34:42.84 You made me think of an old friend of mine, 00:34:42.88\00:34:45.21 Thomas Jackson, he's been here, he was just on Dare to Dream... 00:34:45.25\00:34:47.88 Yes... 00:34:47.92\00:34:49.25 The modern day Lazarus because of what had happened. 00:34:49.28\00:34:52.49 But he's been on 3ABN years and years ago 00:34:52.52\00:34:55.32 with the health message and you know, a lot times, 00:34:55.36\00:35:00.30 I kind of shuddered to say it, but those that are in, 00:35:00.33\00:35:02.56 you mentioned the health reform, 00:35:02.60\00:35:04.70 sometimes they become kind of a little bit belligerent, 00:35:04.73\00:35:08.00 you know, you gotta do this 00:35:08.04\00:35:09.67 or else your salvation is on the line. 00:35:09.70\00:35:11.91 You know what? 00:35:11.94\00:35:13.27 He preached and he spoke 00:35:13.31\00:35:14.71 and he lived a wonderful health message 00:35:14.74\00:35:17.31 but you could stay and talking to him 00:35:17.35\00:35:19.18 even be a member of the church 00:35:19.21\00:35:20.55 and he might catch you out smoking a cigarette 00:35:20.58\00:35:22.78 and he still came up and loved you, you know, by... 00:35:22.82\00:35:25.95 It's the same principle 00:35:25.99\00:35:28.19 because he wasn't pounding you over the head, 00:35:28.22\00:35:30.36 he was loving you into the truth 00:35:30.39\00:35:32.49 and that's where all of us as agents for heaven, 00:35:32.53\00:35:35.53 you know, it all goes back to Corinthians, 00:35:35.56\00:35:39.73 you can have all knowledge, all wisdom, everything 00:35:39.77\00:35:41.87 but it's a symbol, it's just a noise, 00:35:41.90\00:35:43.81 it's a brass making noise if we don't have love. 00:35:43.84\00:35:47.28 Amen. 00:35:47.31\00:35:48.64 You know, if you don't have love... 00:35:48.68\00:35:50.01 And we saw him do this, we saw him do this 00:35:50.05\00:35:51.48 in action to several different people and it worked. 00:35:51.51\00:35:55.72 It worked for them because they, 00:35:55.75\00:35:57.09 since they saw him, it's like, 00:35:57.12\00:35:58.45 "I don't have any hands, I don't... 00:35:58.49\00:35:59.82 pockets, I can't get rid of water," 00:35:59.85\00:36:01.19 and no matter what they had 00:36:01.22\00:36:02.92 he made sure he'd look elsewhere, 00:36:02.96\00:36:05.56 looked them into the eye 00:36:05.59\00:36:07.66 and said how much you're so happy... 00:36:07.70\00:36:10.43 I see you, haven't seen you in a long time and boy, 00:36:10.47\00:36:13.40 we love you and how we appreciate our time, 00:36:13.44\00:36:15.10 again just go right on talking, we've seen you, 00:36:15.14\00:36:17.47 just see sometime they have something in their hand, 00:36:17.51\00:36:19.17 they just kind of like drop it on the ground 00:36:19.21\00:36:21.68 and just continue to talk 00:36:21.71\00:36:23.04 and he never one time brings it up and people loved. 00:36:23.08\00:36:27.35 And I think that's a right thing, 00:36:27.38\00:36:28.85 you know, 'cause that's... 00:36:28.88\00:36:30.42 Jesus did a lot of times He didn't, 00:36:30.45\00:36:32.15 He had the culprit right, you know, his back to wall, 00:36:32.19\00:36:35.86 and He could really embarrassed him, was it Simon. 00:36:35.89\00:36:39.63 Wasn't he healed of leprosy? 00:36:39.66\00:36:41.36 Was it Simon? Simon, hmm-mm. 00:36:41.40\00:36:42.83 Simon, and then he comes in 00:36:42.86\00:36:45.00 and then Mary is down there washing Jesus' feet 00:36:45.03\00:36:47.47 and she's crying and pouring oil 00:36:47.50\00:36:48.97 and if he has said, "Man, she is a sinner." 00:36:49.00\00:36:52.11 Right, if he knew who was touching him, 00:36:52.14\00:36:53.48 wouldn't let her. 00:36:53.51\00:36:54.84 Yeah, yeah. 00:36:54.88\00:36:56.21 Basically get her out of here, she's a sinner and da-da-da 00:36:56.24\00:36:58.65 and Jesus wanted to show him who is in worst shape 00:36:58.68\00:37:02.32 and even tells him, I say, you know, 00:37:02.35\00:37:03.95 the one who's done so much and then forgiven much. 00:37:03.99\00:37:07.16 Who's gonna love the most? 00:37:07.19\00:37:09.42 And I've told about that in my own life. 00:37:09.46\00:37:10.86 I said, "You know, love Jesus 00:37:10.89\00:37:12.96 because He has forgiven me so much." 00:37:12.99\00:37:16.13 So much, if you feel that you're righteous, 00:37:16.16\00:37:18.73 those of you at home, well, I don't do any wrong, 00:37:18.77\00:37:23.27 you're not gonna love much, 00:37:23.30\00:37:25.41 you're not gonna love Christ much. 00:37:25.44\00:37:27.78 It's those of us who slipped and went really far down 00:37:27.81\00:37:31.51 that He's forgiven us much 00:37:31.55\00:37:33.62 that we love Him much in return for that. 00:37:33.65\00:37:36.22 And so He didn't chastise him in a way, 00:37:36.25\00:37:39.25 he used kind of a parable and went around the horn. 00:37:39.29\00:37:41.02 Yeah. 00:37:41.06\00:37:42.39 But also what happens at a time. 00:37:42.42\00:37:43.76 He could have publicly humiliated him but he didn't. 00:37:43.79\00:37:45.13 He could have embarrassed him and he may have went out 00:37:45.16\00:37:47.00 and never come back but he did not do that 00:37:47.03\00:37:49.23 and I thought this is the kind of illustration, 00:37:49.26\00:37:51.73 this is what I need to learn 00:37:51.77\00:37:54.00 and we'd learn as a people how wonderful it would be 00:37:54.04\00:37:56.74 and some of them talked about here, 00:37:56.77\00:37:58.37 this side stepping issue, and there's a time, 00:37:58.41\00:38:01.98 it's being pastor working on that 00:38:02.01\00:38:03.81 that you have to call sin by its right name. 00:38:03.85\00:38:06.72 I'm not talking about padding, I'm not talking about covering, 00:38:06.75\00:38:10.39 and there is, there's a time. 00:38:10.42\00:38:12.15 But then you do because you care. 00:38:12.19\00:38:15.19 Someone said to me one time, "Well, you can't go, 00:38:15.22\00:38:17.23 as soon as you go and tell them this right here, 00:38:17.26\00:38:18.96 they're gonna be so mad. 00:38:18.99\00:38:20.50 They can't hardly stand you, you're gonna lose a friend, 00:38:20.53\00:38:22.63 you're gonna lose a mentor." 00:38:22.66\00:38:24.00 I said, "You know what? I'm going to risk that. 00:38:24.03\00:38:26.13 I love them enough and they are good friends 00:38:26.17\00:38:29.00 but I'm going to risk losing them as a friend 00:38:29.04\00:38:31.87 to try to help them to find out what is right thing to do. 00:38:31.91\00:38:35.08 There are some times when you have... 00:38:35.11\00:38:36.44 I'm sorry, Jason. 00:38:36.48\00:38:37.81 When you have things that are uncomfortable for you 00:38:37.85\00:38:39.91 to bring up 00:38:39.95\00:38:41.28 and certainly uncomfortable for them to hear. 00:38:41.32\00:38:43.92 And yet does being kind means leaving a person 00:38:43.95\00:38:47.49 in their error. 00:38:47.52\00:38:48.99 You know, Ezekiel tells me that if a person is overtaken 00:38:49.02\00:38:52.69 in a trespass in a sin, 00:38:52.73\00:38:54.40 and I say nothing and they die in that sin. 00:38:54.43\00:38:56.93 That's on me. Yeah. 00:38:56.97\00:38:58.50 'Cause I should have said something. 00:38:58.53\00:38:59.87 So sometimes we say, 00:38:59.90\00:39:01.24 "Well, I don't want to disturb them, really, 00:39:01.27\00:39:02.60 it's you don't want to disturb yourself." 00:39:02.64\00:39:04.64 So being kind doesn't mean backing off of 00:39:04.67\00:39:08.61 what needs to be said, it means culturing it in a way 00:39:08.64\00:39:11.25 that it can be received by the person 00:39:11.28\00:39:12.68 that you're speaking to. 00:39:12.71\00:39:14.05 Amen. 00:39:14.08\00:39:15.42 And there are a lot of people that are really just searching 00:39:15.45\00:39:17.49 and by your consistent life 00:39:17.52\00:39:19.65 and the good things that you do, they enquire. 00:39:19.69\00:39:24.53 I mean I'd like to know more, 00:39:24.56\00:39:26.19 I mean what is your trace about this, 00:39:26.23\00:39:28.63 where you gonna cross a number of people that, 00:39:28.66\00:39:32.20 "Are you really Seventh-day Adventist?" 00:39:32.23\00:39:34.60 Well. Yes, we are. 00:39:34.64\00:39:38.11 Well, we have some friends that were Seventh-day Adventists 00:39:38.14\00:39:41.68 and they did this, this, this so, you know, 00:39:41.71\00:39:44.41 just because you choose a denomination to believe in 00:39:44.45\00:39:47.98 or a truth to believe in doesn't mean everybody plays 00:39:48.02\00:39:51.55 by the same rules. 00:39:51.59\00:39:53.56 But, you know, it goes back to that 1 Peter 3:8. 00:39:53.59\00:39:57.29 I think it's, what you're saying playing 00:39:57.33\00:39:59.86 by the same rules, they really weren't converted yet. 00:39:59.89\00:40:02.43 Yeah. 00:40:02.46\00:40:03.80 You see we have to be converted and as I was reading this, 00:40:03.83\00:40:06.94 I think someone is not really converted, 00:40:06.97\00:40:08.94 should not be doing... 00:40:08.97\00:40:11.07 No, 'cause you have to be spiritual. 00:40:11.11\00:40:12.51 Did you have something to say? 00:40:12.54\00:40:13.88 Yeah, I would hate for it to basically be the end 00:40:13.91\00:40:17.25 and somebody come up to me and say, 00:40:17.28\00:40:18.98 "You knew this? 00:40:19.01\00:40:20.35 You knew all this information 00:40:20.38\00:40:21.92 but you didn't love me enough to share that with me." 00:40:21.95\00:40:25.55 And I also think about how Christ loves us 00:40:25.59\00:40:27.96 and how we have the choice of whether 00:40:27.99\00:40:30.43 or not we want to serve Him 00:40:30.46\00:40:31.79 or if we want to serve the devil. 00:40:31.83\00:40:34.53 You know, He loves us so much 00:40:34.56\00:40:36.26 that He actually gives us that choice. 00:40:36.30\00:40:38.83 But then you take a look at 00:40:38.87\00:40:41.37 how some things go down in churches, 00:40:41.40\00:40:43.87 and how people approach people, 00:40:43.91\00:40:46.21 you know, how we've been talking about. 00:40:46.24\00:40:49.14 And it's like people don't give that choice 00:40:49.18\00:40:54.25 how Christ gives us that choice, 00:40:54.28\00:40:55.92 they'll just try and say, 00:40:55.95\00:40:57.85 "I don't eat this and you should neither." 00:40:57.89\00:41:01.46 They make, it's almost like 00:41:01.49\00:41:03.73 they make their choices your choices 00:41:03.76\00:41:06.46 like their choices have to be your choices. 00:41:06.49\00:41:08.96 Mm-hmm. 00:41:09.00\00:41:10.33 But God doesn't even do that, he doesn't operate like that. 00:41:10.37\00:41:14.40 No, never does. 00:41:14.44\00:41:15.77 If we are, I started to say it, if he operated us as we do, 00:41:15.80\00:41:20.24 none of us would be saved. 00:41:20.28\00:41:23.35 Exactly. Get out there. All right. 00:41:23.38\00:41:26.11 My husband has a sermon 00:41:26.15\00:41:27.88 and he talks about the convicts in the church 00:41:27.92\00:41:31.12 because there are so many that have convictions. 00:41:31.15\00:41:35.82 And you think because God gave you that conviction is 00:41:35.86\00:41:40.03 sometimes you think that is not for you, 00:41:40.06\00:41:42.33 it is for everybody that you know that falls into 00:41:42.36\00:41:46.84 that category doing something wrong. 00:41:46.87\00:41:50.24 And I was reading here in this passage 00:41:50.27\00:41:54.94 and I thought that was really powerful, says that, 00:41:54.98\00:41:58.15 "The claims of Christ are upon us, 00:41:58.18\00:42:01.85 we must understand our duty, and do it in the fear of God, 00:42:01.88\00:42:06.65 with an eye single to His glory, 00:42:06.69\00:42:09.52 and not prove unfaithful. 00:42:09.56\00:42:12.43 Let no thought of self 00:42:12.46\00:42:15.76 or of natural feelings be cherished 00:42:15.80\00:42:18.80 to keep the lips silent. 00:42:18.83\00:42:21.50 Speak, and be not afraid. 00:42:21.54\00:42:23.54 With the heart full of tenderness and love for souls, 00:42:23.57\00:42:26.88 warn, exhort, and entreat." 00:42:26.91\00:42:30.75 To me that has been little difficult to do 00:42:30.78\00:42:33.45 and when I was working in back in New York in the laboratory. 00:42:33.48\00:42:39.85 There are many people that came, 00:42:39.89\00:42:42.16 you know, with just very difficult situations. 00:42:42.19\00:42:46.26 And I was afraid to tell them about the Lord, you know, 00:42:46.29\00:42:52.93 and I was, because I know that they were very against, 00:42:52.97\00:42:56.94 you know, I have heard them talking 00:42:56.97\00:42:59.57 and yeah, I was comfortable with those that I said, 00:42:59.61\00:43:02.81 "Oh God knows" and things like that, 00:43:02.84\00:43:05.88 and I started to pray because I said, 00:43:05.91\00:43:08.72 "Lord, you know, what about 00:43:08.75\00:43:11.02 if I never see these people again? 00:43:11.05\00:43:12.75 What about if because that would happen, 00:43:12.79\00:43:15.26 some days they will come to have their test done, 00:43:15.29\00:43:20.53 and the next day we would hear that they're no longer alive. 00:43:20.56\00:43:23.83 Mercy. 00:43:23.87\00:43:25.20 And, oh, you know, that was just so load 00:43:25.23\00:43:27.67 so heavy in my heart and... 00:43:27.70\00:43:30.64 So praise God that he help us in those times 00:43:30.67\00:43:33.68 when we ask of him, and so this reminds me that 00:43:33.71\00:43:39.08 because not to put our feelings. 00:43:39.11\00:43:43.99 When we put our feelings, then we're gonna probably, 00:43:44.02\00:43:48.92 more likely say things not in a good way 00:43:48.96\00:43:54.03 or in a way that you accept it. 00:43:54.06\00:43:56.40 So we have to always remember that God is judging us 00:43:56.43\00:44:03.24 as well as He's judging other 00:44:03.27\00:44:05.31 and it's not our right to judge... 00:44:05.34\00:44:07.31 That's right. 00:44:07.34\00:44:08.68 And to speak harshly, you know, you know what, 00:44:08.71\00:44:11.15 you shouldn't do these or... 00:44:11.18\00:44:14.08 God wants us to be kind and it is true. 00:44:14.12\00:44:18.99 And loving, if we don't do it, 00:44:19.02\00:44:22.19 means that even though we pretend to love God, 00:44:22.22\00:44:25.96 then that means we're not loving God, 00:44:25.99\00:44:28.16 and I think that's pretty deep to think that your words can go 00:44:28.20\00:44:33.27 and then you said, you know, you don't love God... 00:44:33.30\00:44:37.77 Love sometime is taking care of God's business. 00:44:37.81\00:44:40.84 Right? 00:44:40.88\00:44:42.21 If you really love like it's been brought out here 00:44:42.24\00:44:44.11 and one thing that really... 00:44:44.15\00:44:45.51 Is it okay to say aggravate? Yes. 00:44:45.55\00:44:47.68 Of course, you get aggravated. Aggravation is a real word. 00:44:47.72\00:44:50.29 Aggravated life could sink the nation. 00:44:50.32\00:44:52.15 You know, always to look at it is 00:44:52.19\00:44:55.72 when there is issues that need to 00:44:55.76\00:44:57.13 and there's less in here 00:44:57.16\00:44:58.49 when you talk about how you do it, 00:44:58.53\00:44:59.86 you realize there's issues that have to be dealt with 00:44:59.89\00:45:02.56 that we kind of touched on two-three times. 00:45:02.60\00:45:04.60 But when you go to your maybe another elder, 00:45:04.63\00:45:06.94 or deacon, or someone in the church, 00:45:06.97\00:45:08.90 or you want someone to go with you, 00:45:08.94\00:45:10.84 you're going to talk to someone, or whatever. 00:45:10.87\00:45:13.04 And they look around and they'll say, 00:45:13.07\00:45:14.54 "Hey, I don't want to get involved in that." 00:45:14.58\00:45:18.21 You might ask another member of the church 00:45:18.25\00:45:20.22 or someone in the position that they should be 00:45:20.25\00:45:22.15 and they say, "No, I don't want to get involved in that 00:45:22.18\00:45:23.82 because sometime there's gonna be split here 00:45:23.85\00:45:25.95 and peoples gonna be..." 00:45:25.99\00:45:27.32 I mean, how can we as a body, or believers, 00:45:27.36\00:45:30.19 or the church that you go to 00:45:30.23\00:45:31.56 and these are all your brothers and sisters there 00:45:31.59\00:45:33.33 and there is an issue, 00:45:33.36\00:45:34.70 it's gonna split the church maybe 00:45:34.73\00:45:36.50 or it can be healed back up and fixed again. 00:45:36.53\00:45:38.60 To say, "Basically, it's none of my business, 00:45:38.63\00:45:40.90 I don't want to get involved." 00:45:40.94\00:45:42.94 Well, that's... 00:45:42.97\00:45:44.31 I've been saving this paragraph 00:45:44.34\00:45:45.67 'cause you guys are all hitting on 00:45:45.71\00:45:47.04 and that's the... 00:45:47.08\00:45:48.41 I think here's the conclusion. 00:45:48.44\00:45:49.91 And when we spoke about it 00:45:49.94\00:45:51.51 when we read that one about Christ, 00:45:51.55\00:45:53.11 He always spoke the truth, He always went ahead 00:45:53.15\00:45:56.65 and said what needed to be said. 00:45:56.69\00:45:58.29 But here in Spirit of Prophecy, it says, 00:45:58.32\00:45:59.95 "Never cease to labor for a soul 00:45:59.99\00:46:03.79 while there is one ray of hope. 00:46:03.83\00:46:05.93 Your words may cut to the soul. 00:46:05.96\00:46:09.90 Oh, then be cautious, and here it is, 00:46:09.93\00:46:13.37 you still go but you have to be cautious and clothe them 00:46:13.40\00:46:18.01 with love and tenderness of Jesus. 00:46:18.04\00:46:21.04 Soften every accent with love and sympathy." 00:46:21.08\00:46:24.58 See that goes back to a little while ago I said, 00:46:24.61\00:46:26.92 "If we just would listen and do this 00:46:26.95\00:46:29.18 and put it into practice, 00:46:29.22\00:46:31.72 we would have an atmosphere of home on this earth." 00:46:31.75\00:46:34.72 Amen. 00:46:34.76\00:46:36.09 "As you deal with others, as you judge others, 00:46:36.12\00:46:38.96 so the Lord will judge and deal with you. 00:46:38.99\00:46:42.66 Let the agent who claims to be a child of God, 00:46:42.70\00:46:45.27 practice the lessons of Christ. 00:46:45.30\00:46:47.94 If he is compelled to wound, 00:46:47.97\00:46:50.07 or to feel the duty of healing as compulsory upon him. 00:46:50.11\00:46:54.74 The truth is ever to be spoken in love, 00:46:54.78\00:46:59.01 with the Spirit of Christ abiding in the soul." 00:46:59.05\00:47:03.75 And I thought it was interesting to see 00:47:03.79\00:47:05.42 who this was originally written to. 00:47:05.45\00:47:07.46 It was to the dear brethren in responsible positions 00:47:07.49\00:47:11.93 and I think that every one of us here 00:47:11.96\00:47:14.56 as a member of Christ family 00:47:14.60\00:47:16.10 and you're at home to represent Christ, 00:47:16.13\00:47:19.33 to represent your church. 00:47:19.37\00:47:20.87 You're in a place of responsibility 00:47:20.90\00:47:23.91 because you're representing the King of kings. 00:47:23.94\00:47:27.31 But we wrongly represent Him 00:47:27.34\00:47:29.14 when we don't follow His council. 00:47:29.18\00:47:30.95 Yeah, and self would make you want to do the cutting. 00:47:30.98\00:47:33.68 If a person is in error, the truth will cut on its own 00:47:33.72\00:47:36.89 because that's the natural truth. 00:47:36.92\00:47:38.55 I remember, I had a member, she told a story once, 00:47:38.59\00:47:41.79 she said, "The first time I went to an Adventist church, 00:47:41.82\00:47:44.59 I dolled up, I went to my jewelry, 00:47:44.63\00:47:46.93 I wore everything, I had double strands or pearls, 00:47:46.96\00:47:49.60 I had the whole deal. 00:47:49.63\00:47:51.33 And I walked into this church 00:47:51.37\00:47:53.07 and as I walked in the church I looked around 00:47:53.10\00:47:54.77 and said, "Oh, oh man. 00:47:54.80\00:47:57.44 I'm a little overdressed." 00:47:57.47\00:47:59.01 And so during a hymn, she kind of slid down in a pew 00:47:59.04\00:48:03.01 and then she kind of pop this one off, pop this one off 00:48:03.04\00:48:05.55 and then during that she held up the Bible 00:48:05.58\00:48:07.68 and she popped this one off. 00:48:07.72\00:48:09.82 So no one had to tell her like, your friends said, 00:48:09.85\00:48:12.75 oh, you got all that stuff on you, you'll drown yourself. 00:48:12.79\00:48:15.12 Because people know if their heart is honest, 00:48:15.16\00:48:17.89 the truth will set them free to do the right thing. 00:48:17.93\00:48:21.06 You don't have to be the one to come in 00:48:21.10\00:48:23.70 and do all the cutting 00:48:23.73\00:48:25.07 because in cutting down the weed, 00:48:25.10\00:48:26.43 you gonna cut down some tears and some weed, 00:48:26.47\00:48:27.87 and you gonna cut down some good plants. 00:48:27.90\00:48:29.97 The other day I was doing some cutting, 00:48:30.01\00:48:31.34 and I cut right down Irma's mint thing, 00:48:31.37\00:48:33.54 you know, and she said, "What happened to the mint." 00:48:33.58\00:48:36.21 I said, "Somebody cut it down." 00:48:36.24\00:48:40.08 Somebody did. Yeah. 00:48:40.12\00:48:41.92 Well, I was the only one out there with the shears 00:48:41.95\00:48:44.02 so she know it was me but she... 00:48:44.05\00:48:46.12 You know what I think is, mint, weeds, flowers, grass, 00:48:46.15\00:48:51.66 once you're pruning it, it's getting cut, 00:48:51.69\00:48:53.03 you know, I was just chopping them down. 00:48:53.06\00:48:55.00 Please get ready for a sermon didn't know it. 00:48:55.03\00:48:57.57 It was so bushy that he just cut it right down. 00:48:57.60\00:49:01.74 So we do, sometimes in trying to cut out the bad, 00:49:01.77\00:49:05.41 you make a mistake and cut out something 00:49:05.44\00:49:06.78 that you think is bad that is good. 00:49:06.81\00:49:08.14 Yes. 00:49:08.18\00:49:09.51 It's my point, you got to be very, very careful 00:49:09.54\00:49:10.88 with that pruning process, 00:49:10.91\00:49:12.25 to let the spirit do the pruning and not us. 00:49:12.28\00:49:13.82 The Bible tells us... 00:49:13.85\00:49:15.45 I'm sorry, go ahead. 00:49:15.48\00:49:16.82 The Bible tells us that it's much easier for us 00:49:16.85\00:49:19.19 to see the peck on the eye of somebody else 00:49:19.22\00:49:23.09 than it is in ours. 00:49:23.12\00:49:24.63 And I had experienced when I... 00:49:24.66\00:49:30.03 The Lord has spoken to me and says look at you 00:49:30.07\00:49:33.47 and He brought to me things 00:49:33.50\00:49:36.57 that I needed to look before I open my mouth 00:49:36.60\00:49:40.94 and I said, "Praise the Lord for the bad." 00:49:40.98\00:49:43.61 That is the beauty of the Holy Spirit. 00:49:43.65\00:49:45.21 You know, 'cause sometimes we are, yeah... 00:49:45.25\00:49:49.15 So there's a lot of watchman on the wall but very few... 00:49:49.18\00:49:51.55 Some are there among all those watchmen on the wall, 00:49:51.59\00:49:56.22 some are more active than the others. 00:49:56.26\00:49:58.06 When we're talking about love, 00:49:58.09\00:50:00.50 in order for love to be able to be all that it could be, 00:50:00.53\00:50:03.77 there has to be action. 00:50:03.80\00:50:05.80 And whenever you take that action, 00:50:05.83\00:50:08.80 then you may make two or three mistakes. 00:50:08.84\00:50:11.84 Yes. 00:50:11.87\00:50:13.21 I got into a business one time, didn't know what in the world 00:50:13.24\00:50:15.34 I was doing, I said, "Yes, when I should've listened." 00:50:15.38\00:50:18.38 And all of a sudden I had responsibilities 00:50:18.41\00:50:21.58 and there's only one way I knew it, 00:50:21.62\00:50:23.79 I had the manual but that, I'm not a manual reader. 00:50:23.82\00:50:28.12 Doer and learn the hard way I experienced. 00:50:28.16\00:50:31.23 And so, I went out there 00:50:31.26\00:50:32.89 and, oh, I probably butchered it up three or four times 00:50:32.93\00:50:36.40 but it weren't long, that started making sense, 00:50:36.43\00:50:41.17 started making sense to me. 00:50:41.20\00:50:43.37 And really became quite a good salesman 00:50:43.41\00:50:45.54 for this product 00:50:45.57\00:50:46.91 because, wow, I talked my way into it who I become 00:50:46.94\00:50:51.45 and so, those who allow the Holy Spirit to be 00:50:51.48\00:50:54.88 in charge of their lives 00:50:54.92\00:50:56.38 and if they get up and be active, 00:50:56.42\00:50:59.99 they will learn these lessons, 00:51:00.02\00:51:02.32 they may get their hands slapped two or three times 00:51:02.36\00:51:04.33 but people see your heart, 00:51:04.36\00:51:06.46 they know you want to do that which is right. 00:51:06.49\00:51:09.50 And so, get off that wall and do something, you know. 00:51:09.53\00:51:12.53 Yes. 00:51:12.57\00:51:14.14 I think that's what it's all about, it's our heart. 00:51:14.17\00:51:15.64 It is. Amen. 00:51:15.67\00:51:17.27 Our hearts need surgery, they need that stony heart 00:51:17.31\00:51:21.21 or flesh that needs to go 00:51:21.24\00:51:22.88 and that soft heart needs to come in from Christ. 00:51:22.91\00:51:25.95 When Jesus was here, 00:51:25.98\00:51:27.32 He came to reveal not Himself but His Father. 00:51:27.35\00:51:30.69 You know, the enemy likes us to think that the God, 00:51:30.72\00:51:33.25 the Father was stern and exacting 00:51:33.29\00:51:35.59 and da-da-da beating the people over the head 00:51:35.62\00:51:38.16 'cause you guys are in sin. 00:51:38.19\00:51:39.86 But Jesus came to show us, no, He's very loving, 00:51:39.89\00:51:42.83 He's very kind, He's forgiving and He has mercy beyond mercy, 00:51:42.86\00:51:48.17 love beyond love, you know, for each and every one of us. 00:51:48.20\00:51:51.77 As I said earlier, if it were for us individually, 00:51:51.81\00:51:55.84 none of us would save the other, I don't think. 00:51:55.88\00:51:58.31 Yeah. Amen. 00:51:58.35\00:52:00.02 In the beginning of Matthew when he's talking about 00:52:00.05\00:52:03.49 Jesus coming as a baby and the Lord sending Jesus, 00:52:03.52\00:52:08.02 the Messiah to us, 00:52:08.06\00:52:10.53 and I read in there that really touched my heart. 00:52:10.56\00:52:15.06 That the main mission of God sending His Son 00:52:15.10\00:52:21.40 so that we would have the love that He has for His Son. 00:52:21.44\00:52:27.18 And I say, "Wow, I mean, that is really powerful 00:52:27.21\00:52:32.65 to have that love that God has for Jesus." 00:52:32.68\00:52:37.09 He knows how could we attain that 00:52:37.12\00:52:40.46 but that was the mission of God and that's what He wants. 00:52:40.49\00:52:43.12 So if He says that He wants that love in us, 00:52:43.16\00:52:49.10 is for us to surrender and to let the Lord, 00:52:49.13\00:52:53.60 you know, teach us and put that love in us. 00:52:53.64\00:52:57.31 You never gonna be as perfect as God. 00:52:57.34\00:53:01.51 But you will be as perfect as God knows that he can be. 00:53:01.54\00:53:05.38 It's interesting 00:53:05.41\00:53:06.75 'cause Ellen White makes that statement, 00:53:06.78\00:53:08.12 she says, "We need to be by the grace of God 00:53:08.15\00:53:10.39 as perfect in our flesh and human 00:53:10.42\00:53:12.75 as God is in our sphere as God is in His sphere. 00:53:12.79\00:53:17.63 And that's you know used two different spheres, 00:53:17.66\00:53:19.69 you know what I'm saying, 00:53:19.73\00:53:21.06 but still yet by the grace of God 00:53:21.10\00:53:22.43 that how wonderful that is because we've all come short 00:53:22.46\00:53:26.74 and that's what the text I think is right there. 00:53:26.77\00:53:29.90 We've all erred, you know, I'm gonna deal with erring, 00:53:29.94\00:53:33.01 you know, I'm gonna go touch my... 00:53:33.04\00:53:35.18 We've all sinned, we've all come short, 00:53:35.21\00:53:36.54 we've all been, we've erred, and we need some grace, 00:53:36.58\00:53:40.52 and if we see that we have that grace 00:53:40.55\00:53:42.42 that He bestows upon us, and He's very forgiving. 00:53:42.45\00:53:44.95 But you know, people need to learn that. 00:53:44.99\00:53:47.06 I meet people nowadays that will still come up, 00:53:47.09\00:53:51.09 they'll come up maybe you never had a chat 00:53:51.13\00:53:53.70 and they're a Christian, their name's on the book, 00:53:53.73\00:53:55.46 we'll put it that way 00:53:55.50\00:53:56.83 and they'll talk to somebody's close 00:53:56.87\00:53:58.20 as we're talking right here. 00:53:58.23\00:53:59.57 They'll come back close to them, 00:53:59.60\00:54:00.94 talk to them and turn right around and move on. 00:54:00.97\00:54:03.84 There is something wrong with that. 00:54:03.87\00:54:06.27 There is something wrong to say I'm a child of God 00:54:06.31\00:54:08.98 and you can walk within a two foot of a person 00:54:09.01\00:54:12.31 and it consistently is done over the years, several years. 00:54:12.35\00:54:16.48 And they'll turn around and will eyeball you look at 00:54:16.52\00:54:19.25 so you can say hi or respond first. 00:54:19.29\00:54:21.72 So I'm saying, we need to realize 00:54:21.76\00:54:23.53 that's not Christ like. 00:54:23.56\00:54:27.53 Who needs the help? 00:54:27.56\00:54:29.20 I fell off the cliff, I need some help, 00:54:29.23\00:54:31.73 don't continue to push me on over, 00:54:31.77\00:54:33.10 you know what I'm saying, that's... 00:54:33.13\00:54:34.87 You know, he left the 99 and so we need to revaluate... 00:54:34.90\00:54:38.74 This is where, you know, we can have different opinions, 00:54:38.77\00:54:42.44 but we do need to have a common agreement 00:54:42.48\00:54:44.91 and the common agreement say we are Christians. 00:54:44.95\00:54:47.45 Amen. Amen. 00:54:47.48\00:54:48.82 That's what we have in common. 00:54:48.85\00:54:50.82 Because we are Christ's possession. 00:54:50.85\00:54:52.19 Exactly. 00:54:52.22\00:54:53.56 Regardless of what someone else had to say. 00:54:53.59\00:54:54.96 We belong to Christ, whether you have given your life, 00:54:54.99\00:54:57.36 you're still his child 00:54:57.39\00:54:58.73 until you get that final decision. 00:54:58.76\00:55:00.23 And it's our duty. 00:55:00.26\00:55:01.83 I think that it's important for people at home 00:55:01.86\00:55:04.00 to know that if they have gone in the wrong direction, 00:55:04.03\00:55:07.17 if they have made mistakes that Christ still loves them 00:55:07.20\00:55:10.77 and He's longing for them to come back to Him 00:55:10.81\00:55:14.08 and to surrender their lives to Him, 00:55:14.11\00:55:16.04 do not wait until you are perfect 00:55:16.08\00:55:19.71 because you'll never make it. 00:55:19.75\00:55:21.55 You know, you don't know when your time of probation 00:55:21.58\00:55:23.62 is going to close, God forbidden, 00:55:23.65\00:55:26.25 and accident could happen 00:55:26.29\00:55:27.62 and you could pass away today, where would you stand? 00:55:27.66\00:55:31.06 That's right. You know, God wants you now. 00:55:31.09\00:55:33.73 And I think it's wise to understand 00:55:33.76\00:55:36.20 what biblical profession is. 00:55:36.23\00:55:38.30 All that person has to do 00:55:38.33\00:55:39.67 is say God forgive me and mean it, 00:55:39.70\00:55:41.60 and they're perfect right then and there. 00:55:41.64\00:55:43.74 They're justified. Yes. 00:55:43.77\00:55:45.54 I want to read a text very quickly 00:55:45.57\00:55:46.91 which I call it as iceberg text 00:55:46.94\00:55:48.28 and I do this in just 20 seconds. 00:55:48.31\00:55:49.94 "Let this mind be in you, which is also in Christ Jesus." 00:55:49.98\00:55:51.61 Yes. 00:55:51.65\00:55:52.98 Philippians 2:5, I say iceberg because what comes after that 00:55:53.01\00:55:58.05 is an explanation of what that text means, 00:55:58.09\00:56:01.19 but there's some below the surface 00:56:01.22\00:56:02.72 and that's what comes before that. 00:56:02.76\00:56:04.63 So let this mind deals what's before the text 00:56:04.66\00:56:07.76 and what's after. 00:56:07.80\00:56:09.13 So here's what's before, two verses, 00:56:09.16\00:56:10.50 "Let nothing be done 00:56:10.53\00:56:11.87 through selfish ambition or conceit, 00:56:11.90\00:56:13.84 but in lowliness of mind, 00:56:13.87\00:56:15.20 let each esteem others better than himself." 00:56:15.24\00:56:18.57 That's one, and that's three, here's four, 00:56:18.61\00:56:22.38 "Let each of you look out not only for his own interest, 00:56:22.41\00:56:25.61 but also for the interest of others. 00:56:25.65\00:56:27.95 Let this mind be in you." You see? 00:56:27.98\00:56:30.09 So that's the basis of the mindset, 00:56:30.12\00:56:32.12 then you have all this other material about 00:56:32.15\00:56:34.06 Christ not being nothing 00:56:34.09\00:56:36.06 and robbery to be equal with God, 00:56:36.09\00:56:37.53 but made himself of no repute, took the form of a servant, 00:56:37.56\00:56:41.66 but it's based on you let nothing be done 00:56:41.70\00:56:44.37 through selfish ambition or conceit, 00:56:44.40\00:56:46.23 but in lowliness of mind esteem others 00:56:46.27\00:56:48.20 better than yourselves. 00:56:48.24\00:56:49.57 So the foundation for that mind is a humble attitude 00:56:49.60\00:56:53.71 that is willing to serve and give it to Jesus Christ. 00:56:53.74\00:56:56.24 Beautiful. Beautiful. 00:56:56.28\00:56:57.65 Christ, He elevates humanity 00:56:57.68\00:56:59.68 when He took the form of a servant. 00:56:59.71\00:57:01.15 Sure, He did. 00:57:01.18\00:57:02.52 So that we can be called the sons of God. 00:57:02.55\00:57:04.25 Amen. 00:57:04.29\00:57:05.62 Isn't that wonderful to know Jesus, 00:57:05.65\00:57:06.99 you look over all these list of things 00:57:07.02\00:57:08.36 that God has laid out for us that we can grasp by faith, 00:57:08.39\00:57:12.03 put them in our hearts and in our minds. 00:57:12.06\00:57:13.40 And remember, this is so we may learn 00:57:13.43\00:57:16.90 how to handle these situations and they went why? 00:57:16.93\00:57:20.04 To win our brother and sister back. 00:57:20.07\00:57:21.90 We've got 10 seconds left, honey, 00:57:21.94\00:57:23.77 to make sure we have a closing prayer. 00:57:23.81\00:57:25.21 Oh, yes. You like to pray for us. 00:57:25.24\00:57:27.61 Father, we come to you in the name of Jesus. 00:57:27.64\00:57:29.34 We thank You for this Sabbath day. 00:57:29.38\00:57:30.98 We thank You for this word. 00:57:31.01\00:57:32.35 We thank You Lord that we've given You permission 00:57:32.38\00:57:35.18 to be in charge of our lives. 00:57:35.22\00:57:36.79 We love you and thank you in the name of Jesus, amen. 00:57:36.82\00:57:39.12 Amen. Amen. 00:57:39.15\00:57:40.96 Thank you. Amen. 00:57:40.99\00:57:42.56