I want to spend my life 00:00:01.36\00:00:07.30 Mending broken people 00:00:07.34\00:00:12.21 I want to spend my life 00:00:12.24\00:00:18.45 Removing pain 00:00:18.48\00:00:23.55 Lord, let my words 00:00:23.59\00:00:29.79 Heal a heart that hurts 00:00:29.82\00:00:34.36 I want to spend my life 00:00:34.40\00:00:40.07 Mending broken people 00:00:40.10\00:00:45.54 I want to spend my life 00:00:45.57\00:00:51.05 Mending broken people. 00:00:51.08\00:00:54.75 Hello, and welcome to 3ABN Family Worship, 00:01:06.53\00:01:09.53 I'm Shelley Quinn. I'm JD Quinn. 00:01:09.56\00:01:11.70 And we're just so glad that you're joining us. 00:01:11.73\00:01:14.04 You know, we, when the Sabbath rolls around, 00:01:14.07\00:01:18.67 my first feeling is just kind of like... 00:01:18.71\00:01:21.74 Yes. 00:01:21.78\00:01:23.61 And all that stress comes rolling off from the weekend. 00:01:23.65\00:01:26.61 This has been rather stressful week, 00:01:26.65\00:01:30.65 and we hope that if you're joining us for this thing, 00:01:30.69\00:01:33.29 you'll find the same sweet relief 00:01:33.32\00:01:36.39 that we do as we get together to worship 00:01:36.42\00:01:39.79 and to pray to our Lord. 00:01:39.83\00:01:41.23 Let me introduce our guests, I'm going to begin on my right 00:01:41.26\00:01:45.07 and we have the lovely Jill Morikone. 00:01:45.10\00:01:48.17 Jill is such a talented person, you're a pianist, 00:01:48.20\00:01:52.44 you're wonderful writer, you're gifted teacher, 00:01:52.47\00:01:55.44 you are an incredible assistant to the president. 00:01:55.48\00:02:00.12 You're just a busy lady, aren't you? 00:02:00.15\00:02:03.15 Well, I don't know if I claim any of those, 00:02:03.18\00:02:04.95 the title I like to claim is just daughter of Jesus. 00:02:04.99\00:02:07.02 Amen. 00:02:07.06\00:02:08.39 You know, we're just daughters of the king 00:02:08.42\00:02:09.76 and it's a blessing or the sons of the king. 00:02:09.79\00:02:12.69 Pastor C.A said, wait a minute. 00:02:12.73\00:02:14.73 It's a blessing to be part of the team, you know, 00:02:14.76\00:02:17.57 at 3ABN and to be involved in ministry. 00:02:17.60\00:02:21.34 Praise God, and it's a blessing 00:02:21.37\00:02:22.70 to share family worship together. 00:02:22.74\00:02:24.07 Only way to know how many and I agree with you, Shelley, 00:02:24.11\00:02:27.14 we did know how multi-talented she was, 00:02:27.18\00:02:29.71 she was just a local piano teacher 00:02:29.74\00:02:31.25 for such a while, for a long while 00:02:31.28\00:02:33.45 and then as her gifts began to bloom and blossom, 00:02:33.48\00:02:36.32 she could do this and oh, she does that too. 00:02:36.35\00:02:38.39 Oh, she does that well too. Oh, she does that good too. 00:02:38.42\00:02:41.32 So now she is an integral part of everything that's happening 00:02:41.36\00:02:43.53 and she does everything well, she really does. 00:02:43.56\00:02:45.63 Amen. 00:02:45.66\00:02:47.00 Really happy you're here 00:02:47.03\00:02:48.36 in the family circle this evening 00:02:48.40\00:02:50.03 and we also have Pastor C.A Murray 00:02:50.07\00:02:52.50 and his wife Irma. 00:02:52.53\00:02:54.04 Irma, you're in our Latino, 3ABN Latino, 00:02:54.07\00:02:57.21 what is your exact role? 00:02:57.24\00:02:59.27 Well, right now 00:02:59.31\00:03:00.64 I'm having to help in a lot of different things. 00:03:00.68\00:03:03.55 Praise the Lord then I'm able to help, 00:03:03.58\00:03:06.48 but I do mostly producing, broadcast a producer, 00:03:06.51\00:03:12.62 and work with the marketing department. 00:03:12.65\00:03:15.42 Wonderful. 00:03:15.46\00:03:16.86 I'm like the de liaison, liaison between 3ABN 00:03:16.89\00:03:20.83 and our cable companies. 00:03:20.86\00:03:23.03 In English that's liaison. Liaison. 00:03:23.06\00:03:24.83 And that's not liaison. 00:03:29.50\00:03:33.68 And Pastor C.A you... 00:03:33.71\00:03:35.04 And he's not afraid of lying. 00:03:35.08\00:03:37.95 You are our GM general manager for the Proclaim channel. 00:03:37.98\00:03:40.95 Yes. 00:03:40.98\00:03:42.32 And also gifted speaker and we, host, 00:03:42.35\00:03:46.86 producer of the 3ABN today program, 00:03:46.89\00:03:48.86 we all wear multiple hats. 00:03:48.89\00:03:50.96 Indeed we do. 00:03:50.99\00:03:52.33 But... 00:03:52.36\00:03:53.70 I think that that's one thing 00:03:53.73\00:03:55.06 I've learned about self supporting ministries. 00:03:55.10\00:03:56.53 That's true. 00:03:56.56\00:03:57.90 Is that you have to wear a lot of hats. 00:03:57.93\00:04:01.00 But God equips you. Amen. 00:04:01.04\00:04:03.74 So I mean it's a big thank you, Jesus. 00:04:03.77\00:04:07.28 Well, tonight we're going to be talking about hope, 00:04:07.31\00:04:11.25 but not just any hope, 00:04:11.28\00:04:12.81 we're going to be discussing the blessed hope. 00:04:12.85\00:04:15.98 Amen. 00:04:16.02\00:04:17.35 That hope of everlasting life 00:04:17.39\00:04:19.55 in the presence of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. 00:04:19.59\00:04:21.86 Amen. 00:04:21.89\00:04:23.22 But before we begin, 00:04:23.26\00:04:24.59 why don't we just start this Sabbath with a prayer, 00:04:24.63\00:04:27.43 and we're just, 00:04:27.46\00:04:28.80 why don't we just go around in a prayer of praise. 00:04:28.83\00:04:32.53 Let's just pray whatever praise is in your heart, 00:04:32.57\00:04:35.64 well, just take turns and pop around. 00:04:35.67\00:04:37.87 J.D you want to start? 00:04:37.91\00:04:39.24 Yes. 00:04:39.27\00:04:41.21 Father we come to You in the name of Jesus, 00:04:41.24\00:04:43.11 and we just want to thank You for Your many blessings Lord. 00:04:43.14\00:04:46.05 And Father, yes, 00:04:46.08\00:04:47.78 there are different issues in life it comes up, 00:04:47.82\00:04:50.09 but Father we don't worry 00:04:50.12\00:04:51.45 because You are the one that's in charge. 00:04:51.49\00:04:53.66 And so Father, I know for myself 00:04:53.69\00:04:56.39 I just consent, I just surrender to you 00:04:56.42\00:04:59.69 and I thank you Jesus that I'm able to do that. 00:04:59.73\00:05:03.47 And you're the one that empowers me 00:05:03.50\00:05:05.37 to be able to continue to go forward. 00:05:05.40\00:05:08.24 Amen. So Father, thank you. 00:05:08.27\00:05:12.01 Loving Father, we just praise You 00:05:12.04\00:05:15.11 and we are thankful for giving us this day 00:05:15.14\00:05:19.15 where we can trust in You. 00:05:19.18\00:05:23.08 And we can put all our work, and all our trials of the week 00:05:23.12\00:05:30.09 and to be able to relax and rejoice, 00:05:30.13\00:05:33.40 even though we know that Sunday coming all the problems, 00:05:33.43\00:05:37.93 and all the stresses will come again. 00:05:37.97\00:05:42.40 We can just look at that, and still be able to relax 00:05:42.44\00:05:46.54 and to enjoy being with you, with Your presence. 00:05:46.57\00:05:50.85 Thank you Father and bless us tonight 00:05:50.88\00:05:53.58 and bless all of our friends 00:05:53.62\00:05:56.52 that will be watching this program 00:05:56.55\00:05:59.75 in the precious name of Jesus. 00:05:59.79\00:06:01.92 Amen. 00:06:01.96\00:06:03.32 Gracious Father, we do praise You 00:06:03.36\00:06:04.69 and thank You, for being such a good and loving God, 00:06:04.73\00:06:08.23 for giving us the temple and time called the Sabbath, 00:06:08.26\00:06:11.47 a chance to turn off as it were the cares of the world 00:06:11.50\00:06:14.57 and repose in heavenly places even for that a while, 00:06:14.60\00:06:19.11 to see again and knew the faith of Jesus 00:06:19.14\00:06:21.24 to recommit our lives to Him. 00:06:21.28\00:06:23.68 And we thank You Father, that we can draw closer to You, 00:06:23.71\00:06:26.92 and have this special meeting time with You 00:06:26.95\00:06:29.52 during these sacred hours. 00:06:29.55\00:06:31.35 Fill us with Your spirit during this time, dear Father. 00:06:31.39\00:06:33.66 May our words, may the things that we discuss, 00:06:33.69\00:06:36.79 draw us somehow that much closer to You 00:06:36.83\00:06:40.03 as each day brings us closer to thee day, 00:06:40.06\00:06:43.33 and we will see You face to face 00:06:43.37\00:06:44.70 and we praise you Father for Christ, 00:06:44.73\00:06:46.97 we praise You Father for the family of God. 00:06:47.00\00:06:49.57 Amen. 00:06:49.60\00:06:50.94 We praise you Father for brothers and sisters 00:06:50.97\00:06:52.31 in the Lord, 00:06:52.34\00:06:53.68 who truly sometimes are even closer 00:06:53.71\00:06:55.54 than our natural siblings who walk the road we walk, 00:06:55.58\00:06:58.85 talk the talk we talk, 00:06:58.88\00:07:00.35 and live a lives are those who are saved by Christ Jesus, 00:07:00.38\00:07:03.45 so bless us dear Father, we praise You and we love You, 00:07:03.49\00:07:05.92 and we thank You, in Jesus name. 00:07:05.95\00:07:07.69 Amen. 00:07:07.72\00:07:09.06 Oh, Father, we just thank You right now for your Son Jesus 00:07:09.09\00:07:11.73 for the gift of salvation, You've freely extended to us. 00:07:11.76\00:07:16.10 We thank You that You are our provider 00:07:16.13\00:07:18.87 and our protector, and our defender, 00:07:18.90\00:07:22.47 and our sustainer, 00:07:22.50\00:07:24.21 and right now we just give you praise 00:07:24.24\00:07:26.54 for who You are and for what You have done 00:07:26.57\00:07:30.21 in our doing in our lives. 00:07:30.25\00:07:34.88 Father, we're just are so ever grateful to You for grace. 00:07:34.92\00:07:40.32 We're so thankful as Jill has said for Jesus 00:07:40.36\00:07:43.63 and the gift of salvation, 00:07:43.66\00:07:45.23 we're so thankful for Your Holy Spirit. 00:07:45.26\00:07:47.80 And Lord, we're very grateful to You 00:07:47.83\00:07:49.80 for the gift of your holy scriptures 00:07:49.83\00:07:51.63 that we may come to know You. 00:07:51.67\00:07:54.14 And thank You Lord that the Sabbath is a memorial 00:07:54.17\00:07:58.87 that You are our creator 00:07:58.91\00:08:00.51 and the one who recreates us in Christ Jesus. 00:08:00.54\00:08:02.84 That's right. Amen. 00:08:02.88\00:08:04.21 And thank You, Father, 00:08:04.25\00:08:05.58 that You have told us in Your word 00:08:05.61\00:08:07.52 that the Sabbath is a sign, 00:08:07.55\00:08:10.05 it's a sign of covenant keeping God, 00:08:10.09\00:08:13.02 it's a sign You said Lord that reminds us 00:08:13.05\00:08:17.13 You are the one who sanctifies us, 00:08:17.16\00:08:19.46 who sets us apart from evil. 00:08:19.49\00:08:21.60 And Lord, we come tonight 00:08:21.63\00:08:23.73 asking to be forgiven of our sins, 00:08:23.77\00:08:26.20 we come tonight asking on behalf of ourselves 00:08:26.23\00:08:29.60 and our brothers and sisters who are watching, 00:08:29.64\00:08:32.04 Lord, that you would by the power of Your spirit 00:08:32.07\00:08:35.24 in Your word, and Your love set us apart from evil, 00:08:35.28\00:08:39.21 Lord, set us apart to yourself, 00:08:39.25\00:08:41.75 and Lord thank You so much for all that You do, 00:08:41.78\00:08:47.06 in Jesus' holy name we pray, amen. 00:08:47.09\00:08:50.29 Amen. Amen. 00:08:50.33\00:08:52.33 God, you know, the prayer part just reminds you 00:08:52.36\00:08:55.60 as we're praying for these things 00:08:55.63\00:08:57.83 you just think about how gracious God is. 00:08:57.87\00:09:00.30 Amen. 00:09:00.34\00:09:01.67 Prayer, I think praise really, I think the reason He said, 00:09:01.70\00:09:05.94 enter my gates with thanksgiving 00:09:05.97\00:09:07.61 and into your courts with praise, 00:09:07.64\00:09:09.44 as it draws us into His presence. 00:09:09.48\00:09:11.61 That's right. I love that. 00:09:11.65\00:09:13.31 Well, we always like to start with a song 00:09:13.35\00:09:16.89 and you now the Bible says 00:09:16.92\00:09:20.09 make a joyful noise unto the Lord. 00:09:20.12\00:09:22.92 Now you know, as you get older something you'll notice 00:09:22.96\00:09:25.33 if you're one of our younger viewers, 00:09:25.36\00:09:27.16 you will find out that as you get older, 00:09:27.20\00:09:28.76 your voice lowers. 00:09:28.80\00:09:30.27 I used to be an alto, now I'm a tenor, 00:09:30.30\00:09:33.40 and finding we didn't get a chance 00:09:33.44\00:09:35.54 to practice in finding right key, 00:09:35.57\00:09:37.37 so we're in a key 00:09:37.41\00:09:38.74 that we're just going to make a joyful noise, 00:09:38.77\00:09:41.11 'cause we don't all sing in the same key, do we? 00:09:41.14\00:09:44.35 But it's hymn number 214, we have this hope 00:09:44.38\00:09:48.58 and the words would be on the screen so join us. 00:09:48.62\00:09:51.19 We have this hope 00:09:54.79\00:09:58.13 That burns within our hearts 00:09:58.16\00:10:03.53 Hope in the coming 00:10:03.57\00:10:06.94 Of the Lord 00:10:06.97\00:10:12.11 We have this faith 00:10:12.14\00:10:15.44 That Christ alone imparts 00:10:15.48\00:10:20.85 Faith in the promise 00:10:20.88\00:10:24.29 Of His Word 00:10:24.32\00:10:29.52 We believe the time is here 00:10:29.56\00:10:33.86 When the nations far and near 00:10:33.90\00:10:38.07 Shall awake, and shout and sing 00:10:38.10\00:10:42.54 Hallelujah! 00:10:42.57\00:10:45.07 Christ is King! 00:10:45.11\00:10:48.91 We have this hope 00:10:49.64\00:10:53.08 That burns within our hearts 00:10:53.11\00:10:58.75 Hope in the coming 00:10:58.79\00:11:02.52 Of the Lord. 00:11:02.56\00:11:07.50 Amen. Amen. Amen. 00:11:07.53\00:11:09.36 Thank you Jill for running over there 00:11:09.40\00:11:11.00 to play the piano for us. 00:11:11.03\00:11:12.90 You know, in the Greek the word hope, 00:11:12.93\00:11:16.57 if I use the word hope with you, 00:11:16.60\00:11:19.44 sometimes we'll say, 00:11:19.47\00:11:20.88 are you going to go on vacation this year? 00:11:20.91\00:11:22.34 Oh, I hope so. 00:11:22.38\00:11:23.95 It's kind of like, well, it may be, you know, 00:11:23.98\00:11:26.21 if we get a chance, may be it will be possible 00:11:26.25\00:11:29.22 but in the Greek the word hope meant eager expectation. 00:11:29.25\00:11:34.26 Amen. 00:11:34.29\00:11:35.62 So when it talks about hope it's saying we eagerly expect 00:11:35.66\00:11:40.86 what the word of God, 00:11:40.90\00:11:42.26 what He has promised us in His word, 00:11:42.30\00:11:44.43 that it is going to come true, 00:11:44.47\00:11:46.43 and we do have this hope of the coming of our Lord 00:11:46.47\00:11:49.20 because it is promised in the word of God. 00:11:49.24\00:11:52.71 Okay, well, let's look at our scriptures, 00:11:52.74\00:11:54.84 we really didn't have time 00:11:54.88\00:11:56.21 to think about this much, didn't we? 00:11:56.24\00:11:58.65 But, what I'm going to do, 00:11:58.68\00:12:00.45 I'll start off just by reading an affirmation. 00:12:00.48\00:12:02.95 And affirmation is when you just take the word of God 00:12:02.98\00:12:06.25 and pray it back to him basically. 00:12:06.29\00:12:08.66 And we're looking at two different scriptures 00:12:08.69\00:12:10.79 that this affirmation was built from. 00:12:10.83\00:12:13.40 It's just that you're agreeing with the Lord, 00:12:13.43\00:12:15.33 so let me just read 00:12:15.36\00:12:16.70 what the affirmation from Revelation 21:1-7, 00:12:16.73\00:12:20.60 and 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17, here is what it says, 00:12:20.64\00:12:26.24 "When the new Jerusalem 00:12:26.27\00:12:27.61 comes down to the new recreated earth, 00:12:27.64\00:12:30.61 God will dwell with us 00:12:30.65\00:12:32.75 as He originally planned a creation. 00:12:32.78\00:12:35.28 He will make all things new, 00:12:35.32\00:12:37.45 never again will we suffer the pain of death, 00:12:37.49\00:12:40.89 sorrow, or crying, 00:12:40.92\00:12:42.79 He will satisfy our thirsty soul 00:12:42.82\00:12:45.19 with a fountain of the water of eternal life, 00:12:45.23\00:12:48.36 we will be His forever." 00:12:48.40\00:12:50.70 Amen. 00:12:50.73\00:12:52.07 "Joy upon joy God will reunite us with our loved ones 00:12:52.10\00:12:55.40 who have fallen asleep in Christ 00:12:55.44\00:12:57.84 and we will have eternity 00:12:57.87\00:12:59.67 to spend with those for whom our heartaches now. 00:12:59.71\00:13:04.28 If we're alive at His coming 00:13:04.31\00:13:06.51 we shall not precede into His presence without them 00:13:06.55\00:13:10.25 for at His coming at the coming of the Lord 00:13:10.29\00:13:14.22 he will shout his command, 00:13:14.26\00:13:16.36 and the dead in Christ will arise first. 00:13:16.39\00:13:19.19 Then we shall all be caught up together 00:13:19.23\00:13:22.06 to meet the Lord in the air, 00:13:22.10\00:13:24.03 and thus shall we always be with our Lord. 00:13:24.07\00:13:27.90 Hallelujah." 00:13:27.94\00:13:29.27 Amen. 00:13:29.30\00:13:30.64 So why don't we just see, 00:13:30.67\00:13:32.01 why don't you tackle Revelation 21:1-7, 00:13:32.04\00:13:35.21 if you'll just read that then we will just discuss it. 00:13:35.24\00:13:39.11 The Bible says, "Now I saw a new heaven 00:13:39.15\00:13:41.88 and a new earth, for the first heaven 00:13:41.92\00:13:44.12 and the first earth had passed away. 00:13:44.15\00:13:47.72 Then I, John, 00:13:47.76\00:13:49.56 saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, 00:13:49.59\00:13:52.19 coming down out of heaven from God, 00:13:52.23\00:13:54.43 And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, 00:13:54.46\00:13:56.46 "Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, 00:13:56.50\00:13:59.80 and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. 00:13:59.83\00:14:03.14 God Himself will be with them and be their God." 00:14:03.17\00:14:06.74 This is written in very affirmative language 00:14:06.78\00:14:08.18 by the way. 00:14:08.21\00:14:09.54 "And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes, 00:14:09.58\00:14:12.61 there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying. 00:14:12.65\00:14:16.72 There shall be no more pain, 00:14:16.75\00:14:18.45 for the former things have passed away." 00:14:18.49\00:14:21.76 Then He who sat on the throne said, 00:14:21.79\00:14:23.56 "Behold, I make all things new." 00:14:23.59\00:14:27.36 And He said to me, 00:14:27.40\00:14:28.73 "Write, for these words are true and faithful." 00:14:28.76\00:14:31.93 And He said to me, I will forgive, I'm sorry, 00:14:31.97\00:14:34.77 "I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely 00:14:34.80\00:14:38.61 to him who thirsts. 00:14:38.64\00:14:40.44 He who overcomes shall inherit all things, 00:14:40.48\00:14:44.28 and I will be his God and he shall be My son." 00:14:44.31\00:14:48.98 Hallelujah, one of my favorite passages in the Bible, 00:14:49.02\00:14:51.99 so give us your thoughts on this passage. 00:14:52.02\00:14:55.96 Well, you know, I have a sermon where I ask people, 00:14:55.99\00:14:59.59 close your eyes and think about heaven. 00:14:59.63\00:15:01.46 And then I said open your eyes. I remember that sermon. 00:15:01.50\00:15:02.86 And I say you're not really asked to do the impossible 00:15:02.90\00:15:05.50 because we have nothing to compare it to. 00:15:05.53\00:15:08.80 We are much more comfortable of thinking about the things 00:15:08.84\00:15:10.64 that won't be there 00:15:10.67\00:15:12.01 because we don't know precisely what will be there, 00:15:12.04\00:15:14.64 so we think about the negative things the pain, 00:15:14.68\00:15:17.28 the doctors, the eyeglasses, the canes, 00:15:17.31\00:15:19.08 the crutches, the cancer, ecchymosis, 00:15:19.11\00:15:21.18 those kinds of things and so when he says, 00:15:21.22\00:15:24.12 I saw a new heaven and a new earth, 00:15:24.15\00:15:26.49 my mind immediately goes to the stuff 00:15:26.52\00:15:28.52 that I hate that will not be there. 00:15:28.56\00:15:30.53 Amen. 00:15:30.56\00:15:31.89 You know, the stuff that bothers me that will... 00:15:31.93\00:15:33.29 I've had half dozen eye operations you know, 00:15:33.33\00:15:36.43 been blind and come back, and then blind again 00:15:36.46\00:15:38.57 and come back, and blind again and come back, 00:15:38.60\00:15:40.44 that kind of thing. 00:15:40.47\00:15:41.80 All that stuff will be gone. 00:15:41.84\00:15:43.17 I'm not a person who likes doctors, 00:15:43.20\00:15:44.54 Irma, you say, you know, you never get a checkup, 00:15:44.57\00:15:46.07 you never get a checkup, well, I don't. 00:15:46.11\00:15:48.24 If I could, if I got to avoid checkups, 00:15:48.28\00:15:49.84 you know, no doctors there, no sickness, 00:15:49.88\00:15:52.01 no pain, no side, and I'll quick end with this. 00:15:52.05\00:15:55.45 When we were younger, 00:15:55.48\00:15:56.95 I used to watch my father get out of bed 00:15:56.99\00:15:58.52 and sit on a side of bed for five, 00:15:58.55\00:16:00.76 sometimes 10 minutes and we were like, 00:16:00.79\00:16:03.32 "Daddy, why are you doing that?" 00:16:03.36\00:16:04.69 Come on, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, you know, 00:16:04.73\00:16:06.36 now I get up and you know, you sit on the side of the bed 00:16:06.39\00:16:08.96 to just make sure everything is still 00:16:09.00\00:16:10.33 where you kind of left it a night before, 00:16:10.37\00:16:11.70 you know, that won't be anymore. 00:16:11.73\00:16:15.64 We'll get up and roll, run 00:16:15.67\00:16:17.11 and not be worry or walk and not faint. 00:16:17.14\00:16:19.47 So I'm very comfortable 00:16:19.51\00:16:20.84 thinking about the things that will not be there. 00:16:20.88\00:16:23.95 And that is heaven enough for me, you know, 00:16:23.98\00:16:26.92 I don't know what will be there 00:16:26.95\00:16:28.28 but I sure know what won't be there 00:16:28.32\00:16:29.65 and that's why I've hope, 00:16:29.68\00:16:31.72 because all of these bad stuff simply won't be there, 00:16:31.75\00:16:33.76 new heaven, new earth. 00:16:33.79\00:16:35.52 Amen. Jill? 00:16:35.56\00:16:36.89 Praise God for what He wants to do in our lives. 00:16:36.93\00:16:39.36 You know, I remember as a teenager 00:16:39.39\00:16:41.46 sitting in the Sabbath school class 00:16:41.50\00:16:43.10 and I remember this precious older woman, 00:16:43.13\00:16:46.74 and now I think she is young, 00:16:46.77\00:16:48.37 but as a teenager you think most people are older. 00:16:48.40\00:16:51.27 She was probably in her 50s and to me 50s is young, right? 00:16:51.31\00:16:55.74 50s is young. 00:16:55.78\00:16:57.45 And now it is to me but at the time 00:16:57.48\00:16:59.05 I thought she was older 00:16:59.08\00:17:00.42 and she had gone prematurely gray, 00:17:00.45\00:17:01.78 she had beautiful white hair 00:17:01.82\00:17:03.15 and I remember her sitting there in class and her saying, 00:17:03.18\00:17:05.72 if there was no hope of heaven, would you want to go? 00:17:05.75\00:17:11.36 And I thought, no. Would you want to go? 00:17:11.39\00:17:14.86 Would you, I mean would you want to follow Jesus? 00:17:14.90\00:17:16.46 Think. Okay. 00:17:16.50\00:17:17.83 If there was no hope of heaven, would you want to follow Jesus? 00:17:17.87\00:17:21.90 We're talking about the blessed hope. 00:17:21.94\00:17:23.37 Thank you, Shelley, for that correction. 00:17:23.41\00:17:25.71 And I thought, no, because the religious state, 00:17:25.74\00:17:30.18 I was in as a teenager was the only reason 00:17:30.21\00:17:34.38 I'm trying to get to church, 00:17:34.42\00:17:36.02 I'm trying to do what I'm supposed to, 00:17:36.05\00:17:39.75 was a thought that this world is not all there is, 00:17:39.79\00:17:42.86 and that there is an eternity here after. 00:17:42.89\00:17:46.66 And now as I've grown, 00:17:46.70\00:17:49.56 I realize there is a lot of truth 00:17:49.60\00:17:51.03 in what she said too, because yes, 00:17:51.07\00:17:53.54 the blessed hope is beautiful as a Christian, 00:17:53.57\00:17:57.37 we have to look forward to spending eternity 00:17:57.41\00:18:00.14 with those who have already passed away, 00:18:00.18\00:18:02.84 with loved ones, 00:18:02.88\00:18:04.21 with not been separated by thousands of miles you know, 00:18:04.25\00:18:08.38 from family or friends being together, 00:18:08.42\00:18:11.72 the most important being with Jesus, 00:18:11.75\00:18:13.46 not having the pain and the sorrow 00:18:13.49\00:18:15.22 and all of that stuff, 00:18:15.26\00:18:16.93 but the beautiful thing she was bringing out 00:18:16.96\00:18:19.63 was that here today on this earth 00:18:19.66\00:18:22.83 I can have such an intimate walk with God, 00:18:22.86\00:18:27.24 that peace, that joy, 00:18:27.27\00:18:29.20 that I can begin to have the blessed hope 00:18:29.24\00:18:32.41 the heaven here on earth in my heart right now. 00:18:32.44\00:18:36.08 So what you're saying then 00:18:36.11\00:18:37.45 is you've come to the conclusion, 00:18:37.48\00:18:39.65 even if heaven were not to be, 00:18:39.68\00:18:42.32 it's worth walking with Jesus right now, 00:18:42.35\00:18:45.05 because of peace and everything you feel. 00:18:45.09\00:18:47.52 The heaven is just kind of a cherry on the sun, you know. 00:18:47.56\00:18:49.32 That's it. Yes. That's it. Yeah. 00:18:49.36\00:18:52.89 You know, I was thinking of the same things, 00:18:52.93\00:18:56.50 Jill was thinking in terms of age. 00:18:56.53\00:18:59.50 I still remember, yes, being a teenager 00:18:59.53\00:19:02.60 and when somebody says I'm 25, I'm 30, 00:19:02.64\00:19:06.31 I thought I will ever get there that it was just, 00:19:06.34\00:19:09.41 was just that those numbers were so far away, 00:19:09.44\00:19:13.65 but the most beautiful thing 00:19:13.68\00:19:17.15 is like I got baptized about 12 years old. 00:19:17.19\00:19:21.19 And so when my mother came into the faith 00:19:21.22\00:19:24.16 and we all started, 00:19:24.19\00:19:27.66 one of the things that always kept me 00:19:27.70\00:19:30.83 was that idea 00:19:30.87\00:19:32.67 that we have that privilege some day 00:19:32.70\00:19:37.97 to go to heaven and to see that nothing, 00:19:38.01\00:19:40.84 nothing will be like in this world, 00:19:40.88\00:19:43.95 everything will be so perfect, 00:19:43.98\00:19:45.95 and I would used to love to think 00:19:45.98\00:19:48.12 I will sit and look at the stars, 00:19:48.15\00:19:50.42 and imagine that how far they look, 00:19:50.45\00:19:54.36 you know, they're so bright, yet they are, 00:19:54.39\00:19:58.09 you can see the depth that you can 00:19:58.13\00:20:00.60 and when he talk about days and years 00:20:00.63\00:20:04.37 to be able to go that far. 00:20:04.40\00:20:07.77 It always keeps me and I remember something 00:20:07.80\00:20:11.87 that is always in my mind, 00:20:11.91\00:20:15.44 very often is when Sister White 00:20:15.48\00:20:18.88 had the vision of being in heaven 00:20:18.91\00:20:22.08 and she never wanted to come back. 00:20:22.12\00:20:23.85 Yes. Yeah. 00:20:23.89\00:20:25.22 She didn't want to come back, because it was so incredible, 00:20:25.25\00:20:29.12 and she couldn't even put it in words, 00:20:29.16\00:20:31.56 but just the fact 00:20:31.59\00:20:32.93 that she just hated to come back, 00:20:32.96\00:20:37.10 says, it's got to be we cannot imagine it 00:20:37.13\00:20:40.64 but it has to be something of, you know, 00:20:40.67\00:20:47.08 kind of we don't have words for it. 00:20:47.11\00:20:48.74 A blessed hope, is it not? Yes. 00:20:48.78\00:20:51.05 Now you've heard... Amen. 00:20:51.08\00:20:52.51 You know, neither has entered into the heart of man. 00:20:52.55\00:20:54.15 Well, God has prepared for those who love. 00:20:54.18\00:20:56.62 I know I have a brother, 00:20:56.65\00:20:58.25 I have my father who have passed away, 00:20:58.29\00:21:01.16 my grandparents, my two grandmothers 00:21:01.19\00:21:05.73 I didn't know my grandfathers but I knew them so well 00:21:05.76\00:21:11.53 that I'm longing to see them again. 00:21:11.57\00:21:14.84 Honey? 00:21:14.87\00:21:16.20 Whenever I read Revelation 21:1-7 00:21:16.24\00:21:21.81 my mind goes to the creator. 00:21:21.84\00:21:24.81 It seems like we go through the phases in life 00:21:24.85\00:21:29.12 and I have remember and don't discount this 00:21:29.15\00:21:32.85 because as Danny Shelton used to say 00:21:32.89\00:21:36.22 my best friend is the Holy Spirit, 00:21:36.26\00:21:38.03 so I want to make that perfectly clear. 00:21:38.06\00:21:40.13 But it seems like in this last three to four months, 00:21:40.16\00:21:43.20 boy, creator, creator, creator, God, God, 00:21:43.23\00:21:46.60 in just about everything that I look at, 00:21:46.63\00:21:49.40 the creator comes into my mind. 00:21:49.44\00:21:51.64 And as we read this here once again new heaven, 00:21:51.67\00:21:55.61 new earth, creator from God creator, 00:21:55.64\00:21:59.61 God Himself, creator, God will wipe away, creator. 00:21:59.65\00:22:04.49 Behold, I make all things new, creator. 00:22:04.52\00:22:07.96 You know, I will 00:22:07.99\00:22:10.66 freely to gave him who thirst, creator. 00:22:10.69\00:22:13.80 And when inherit all things, and I will be his God, 00:22:13.83\00:22:18.90 and he shall be my son, creator. 00:22:18.93\00:22:21.77 Amen. 00:22:21.80\00:22:23.14 So I just... That's great. 00:22:23.17\00:22:24.91 As everyday goes by, 00:22:24.94\00:22:26.27 it's kind of like who are you going to quote today, 00:22:26.31\00:22:30.08 and there is no second, creator. 00:22:30.11\00:22:35.32 And so it's just interesting 00:22:35.35\00:22:37.32 that as here we start reading here 00:22:37.35\00:22:39.29 what jumps off the page, creator, thank you Jesus. 00:22:39.32\00:22:43.96 Amen. That's powerful. 00:22:43.99\00:22:46.29 You know, for me when I think about this now, 00:22:46.33\00:22:50.27 most of you grow up Adventist, right? 00:22:50.30\00:22:52.17 All of you did I guess. I came at 11. 00:22:52.20\00:22:54.07 At 11. 00:22:54.10\00:22:55.47 Well, you know, 00:22:55.50\00:22:56.91 first of all my vision of heaven in growing up 00:22:56.94\00:23:00.84 was that it was kind of 00:23:00.88\00:23:02.54 like we were going to float around on clouds 00:23:02.58\00:23:05.68 and play harps 00:23:05.71\00:23:07.88 and it didn't sound that enticing. 00:23:07.92\00:23:13.46 It sounded better than going to hell. 00:23:13.49\00:23:16.19 And you know... Glory to God. 00:23:16.22\00:23:17.63 And the first couple times I was baptized it was to avoid, 00:23:17.66\00:23:22.23 it was like fire insurance, but when I look at this, 00:23:22.26\00:23:25.47 you know, I didn't really, 00:23:25.50\00:23:27.74 then there are so many Christians out there 00:23:27.77\00:23:29.54 who don't realize that the only time 00:23:29.57\00:23:31.34 that we're actually in heaven is during the thousand years 00:23:31.37\00:23:34.11 and then the new Jerusalem 00:23:34.14\00:23:35.91 comes down to a recreated earth. 00:23:35.94\00:23:38.51 This earth that has been destroyed, 00:23:38.55\00:23:40.52 it has become a lake of fire and then God, 00:23:40.55\00:23:44.75 it's cleansed and He recreates it 00:23:44.79\00:23:46.76 but to me what this speaks I mean, yes, 00:23:46.79\00:23:50.36 am I excited to think about my loved ones 00:23:50.39\00:23:54.40 that I'll get to spend eternity with, yes. 00:23:54.43\00:23:56.83 And I don't know 00:23:56.87\00:23:58.73 how anyone goes through the death of a child 00:23:58.77\00:24:01.64 or even the death of your spouse. 00:24:01.67\00:24:03.14 Yes. Yes. 00:24:03.17\00:24:04.51 And not have that blessed hope, if you didn't have that hope, 00:24:04.54\00:24:07.11 it would make it a million times worse. 00:24:07.14\00:24:09.91 But what I see here and what jumps out at me 00:24:09.94\00:24:13.62 is when it says I heard a loud voice from heaven sang, 00:24:13.65\00:24:16.65 this is after the holy city has come down. 00:24:16.69\00:24:19.85 God's going to make that His home. 00:24:19.89\00:24:22.72 And then He says, behold the tabernacle of God 00:24:22.76\00:24:26.73 is with men, 00:24:26.76\00:24:28.76 he will dwell with them and they shall be his people. 00:24:28.80\00:24:32.47 Yeah. That is covenant language. 00:24:32.50\00:24:36.27 He is a covenant making covenant keeping God 00:24:36.30\00:24:40.51 and it is always been, I will be your God, 00:24:40.54\00:24:43.24 you will be my people. 00:24:43.28\00:24:44.68 And we just always seems like we fall short of that, 00:24:44.71\00:24:47.52 but God has, 00:24:47.55\00:24:51.75 is finally the purpose of His covenant, 00:24:51.79\00:24:55.59 is finally being achieved here is because now, you know, 00:24:55.62\00:25:01.76 we've been through it all, 00:25:01.80\00:25:03.26 sin He says is never going to arise again, 00:25:03.30\00:25:05.87 that's why He could wipe away all the tears. 00:25:05.90\00:25:07.60 Amen. 00:25:07.64\00:25:08.97 But now we get to see Him face to face. 00:25:09.00\00:25:13.38 Yes. 00:25:13.41\00:25:14.74 You know, we're also excited to see our mothers 00:25:14.78\00:25:17.61 or brothers, whether sisters whatever 00:25:17.65\00:25:19.98 but I imagine 00:25:20.02\00:25:21.35 when we first raise from the grave, 00:25:21.38\00:25:25.29 what's going to be the most exciting thing? 00:25:25.32\00:25:27.39 Jesus. It's Jesus. 00:25:27.42\00:25:28.76 Exactly. Absolutely. 00:25:28.79\00:25:30.13 Your know. Yeah. 00:25:30.16\00:25:31.49 You know, every November since we go down to Panama 00:25:31.53\00:25:34.50 every December for Christmas, Irma's mom is 97. 00:25:34.53\00:25:38.87 Wow. 00:25:38.90\00:25:40.24 And of course you've been down there, 00:25:40.27\00:25:41.60 we kind of flip about mid, right after Thanksgiving, 00:25:41.64\00:25:44.94 we kind of flip into Panama mode, 00:25:44.97\00:25:46.54 you know, your brain starts to think from that mode. 00:25:46.57\00:25:48.54 And you've been down there, you've been, 00:25:48.58\00:25:50.01 so you know, that kind of thing. 00:25:50.05\00:25:52.91 You feel that way about heaven, you know, 00:25:52.95\00:25:54.72 it's like I want to get there, you know. 00:25:54.75\00:25:57.19 Everybody has a text that means something to them. 00:25:57.22\00:26:00.22 I want to just refer to one, 00:26:00.26\00:26:02.36 they call Hebrews 11 a faith chapter, 00:26:02.39\00:26:04.56 by faith, by faith, by faith, by faith. 00:26:04.59\00:26:07.36 And wonderful exploits of faith in that chapter 00:26:07.40\00:26:12.03 and it wasn't until fairly recently though 00:26:12.07\00:26:14.10 that my mind locked down 00:26:14.14\00:26:15.47 on the last two verses 39 and 40. 00:26:15.50\00:26:18.31 Because you can get so wrapped up 00:26:18.34\00:26:19.87 in these great exploits of faith and they should be 00:26:19.91\00:26:21.84 because they are fabulous, 00:26:21.88\00:26:23.21 but then the Bible says something else. 00:26:23.24\00:26:25.25 And 39, "All these, having obtained 00:26:25.28\00:26:27.95 a good testimony through faith..." 00:26:27.98\00:26:29.45 So their record is solid through exploits of faith. 00:26:29.48\00:26:32.89 "Did not receive the promise..." 00:26:32.92\00:26:34.52 You know they didn't get heaven just yet, 00:26:34.56\00:26:35.92 they didn't get finalize. 00:26:35.96\00:26:38.03 "God having provided something better for us, 00:26:38.06\00:26:43.16 that they should not be made perfect apart from us." 00:26:43.20\00:26:47.10 And that just excites me, 00:26:47.14\00:26:49.10 when you look at Moses and Abraham 00:26:49.14\00:26:51.31 and all these wonderful people of great faith, 00:26:51.34\00:26:55.01 God said, they didn't get it and they will not get it 00:26:55.04\00:26:57.98 one second before you get yours. 00:26:58.01\00:27:00.15 That excites me when that heaven has occur, 00:27:00.18\00:27:02.48 we all going together. 00:27:02.52\00:27:04.35 Moses made it there before we did. 00:27:04.39\00:27:05.82 Yeah, well, he's emerald, he's... 00:27:05.85\00:27:07.99 Yeah, he is in blesses ark 00:27:08.02\00:27:10.66 'cause when it talk about Moses getting into the Promised Land, 00:27:10.69\00:27:13.23 don't cherry cheers for Moses 00:27:13.26\00:27:14.66 because he is where we want to be. 00:27:14.70\00:27:16.16 But they, they... 00:27:16.20\00:27:18.20 God has said that they didn't get the promise. 00:27:18.23\00:27:20.80 They're going to get at the same time we get 00:27:20.84\00:27:22.77 as we all get it together. 00:27:22.80\00:27:24.44 And that's going to be so wonderful 00:27:24.47\00:27:25.81 that we'll be able among other things 00:27:25.84\00:27:27.48 to dialog with and fellowship 00:27:27.51\00:27:30.78 with these great people of faith 00:27:30.81\00:27:33.68 down through the centuries, many whose names, 00:27:33.72\00:27:35.85 most of those names are not even mentioned here. 00:27:35.88\00:27:37.85 We get to inhabit heaven with them. 00:27:37.89\00:27:40.62 What a wonderful place, Shelley, it's going to be. 00:27:40.66\00:27:43.19 You know, you talk about hope, expectation, 00:27:43.22\00:27:45.86 because it's hope is such an ethereal word, 00:27:45.89\00:27:48.76 you know, it's too light a word for what we have. 00:27:48.80\00:27:51.67 Eager expectation is much, much better 00:27:51.70\00:27:54.17 because it's something that it's real hope can be, 00:27:54.20\00:27:56.77 well, I hope I'll see you tomorrow, 00:27:56.81\00:27:58.14 I hope you know, he's more than hope. 00:27:58.17\00:28:00.31 We've watered it down. We have watered it down. 00:28:00.34\00:28:02.04 Yeah. Yeah. 00:28:02.08\00:28:04.28 I was reading some place where we're saying hope 00:28:04.31\00:28:06.25 is the indispensable quality of life. 00:28:06.28\00:28:10.45 That's true, without hope. 00:28:10.49\00:28:11.92 Without hope. Yes, truth. 00:28:11.95\00:28:13.29 You know, boy, what a statement 00:28:13.32\00:28:14.99 because I used to read lot of psychology articles 00:28:15.02\00:28:20.90 and they say that most people who try to commit suicide 00:28:20.93\00:28:25.13 the reason that they do is because they are hopeless, 00:28:25.17\00:28:28.44 and quite often if you can reach them at that moment 00:28:28.47\00:28:31.51 and reel them in, show them something, 00:28:31.54\00:28:33.84 give them hope, they'll... 00:28:33.88\00:28:35.21 I mean sometimes, you know, 00:28:35.24\00:28:36.58 like people who've been brought in 00:28:36.61\00:28:39.15 off the Golden Gate Bridge that somebody intervenes 00:28:39.18\00:28:43.28 and intercepts and they bring them 00:28:43.32\00:28:45.55 and within 24 hours they're non suicidal 00:28:45.59\00:28:49.72 because somehow it was just that they reach 00:28:49.76\00:28:52.23 that moment of feeling hopeless, 00:28:52.26\00:28:54.73 and so yes, hope is indispensable, 00:28:54.76\00:28:57.83 but what you just read in verse, 00:28:57.87\00:29:01.47 oh, I'll turn the page, oh, here it is. 00:29:01.50\00:29:03.71 It's 39 and 40. That was Hebrews, go on. 00:29:03.74\00:29:05.07 That was Hebrews 11:39 and 40, 00:29:05.11\00:29:07.38 what you've just read that, 00:29:07.41\00:29:08.74 God having provided something better for us, 00:29:08.78\00:29:10.65 that they should not be made perfect apart from us. 00:29:10.68\00:29:13.42 Jill, why don't you read 1 Thessalonians 4: 13-17, 00:29:13.45\00:29:17.32 because that's perfectly ties in... 00:29:17.35\00:29:21.16 It does. It really does. With what the Bible says here. 00:29:21.19\00:29:26.66 This, I think this is one of my favorite scriptures. 00:29:26.70\00:29:28.80 I like this. 00:29:28.83\00:29:30.17 "But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, 00:29:30.20\00:29:32.97 concerning those who have fallen asleep, 00:29:33.00\00:29:35.37 lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. 00:29:35.40\00:29:38.67 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, 00:29:38.71\00:29:42.31 even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus. 00:29:42.34\00:29:47.62 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, 00:29:47.65\00:29:50.05 that we who are alive 00:29:50.09\00:29:51.59 and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means 00:29:51.62\00:29:55.09 precede those who are asleep. 00:29:55.12\00:29:57.49 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven 00:29:57.53\00:29:59.89 with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, 00:29:59.93\00:30:02.53 and with the trumpet of God. 00:30:02.56\00:30:04.43 And the dead in Christ will rise first. 00:30:04.47\00:30:07.54 Then we who are alive 00:30:07.57\00:30:08.90 and remain shall be caught up together with them 00:30:08.94\00:30:10.91 in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. 00:30:10.94\00:30:13.78 And thus we shall always be with the Lord." 00:30:13.81\00:30:17.35 Hallelujah. There it is. Always. 00:30:17.38\00:30:21.92 So when you read that what just jumps out of you, Jill? 00:30:21.95\00:30:27.72 You know, this scripture means a lot to me personally, 00:30:27.76\00:30:32.59 my cousin died when she was 36. 00:30:32.63\00:30:39.57 She left behind a three and a five year old boy. 00:30:39.60\00:30:45.24 Young mother, whole life ahead, little kids. 00:30:45.27\00:30:50.11 And I think, we're gonna see her again. 00:30:50.15\00:30:53.58 Yes. 00:30:53.62\00:30:54.95 Not only us but those little boys, 00:30:54.98\00:30:57.52 as they grow up remain faithful to Jesus 00:30:57.55\00:31:00.86 are going to see their mother again. 00:31:00.89\00:31:05.03 And to me this verse is all about hope. 00:31:05.06\00:31:07.76 Not even in the sense of eager expectation 00:31:07.80\00:31:10.63 although it is eager expectation, 00:31:10.67\00:31:12.47 but to me this verse is abiding hope. 00:31:12.50\00:31:16.20 Is there such a thing as abiding hope 00:31:16.24\00:31:18.34 like a constant, steadfast, settled feeling in the heart 00:31:18.37\00:31:24.05 that I know Jesus is coming again. 00:31:24.08\00:31:26.21 I know we have the promise of everlasting life 00:31:26.25\00:31:29.85 of spending eternity with those that you love. 00:31:29.88\00:31:33.86 You know, I think of Greg and I when we first got married, 00:31:33.89\00:31:36.79 you have that super twitterpated like... 00:31:36.83\00:31:41.00 That's a good word twitterpated. 00:31:41.03\00:31:42.36 I really love you, I'm so over the top, 00:31:42.40\00:31:45.40 but as the longer you're married 00:31:45.43\00:31:47.30 and we've only been married 14 years, 00:31:47.34\00:31:48.87 but the longer you're married, the more it settles in 00:31:48.90\00:31:52.67 and there's still tremendous love, 00:31:52.71\00:31:55.54 but it's like a deep settled security, 00:31:55.58\00:31:59.71 commitment, contentment, peace, joy. 00:31:59.75\00:32:04.02 And to me the blessed hope is that. 00:32:04.05\00:32:06.39 Like this contentment, 00:32:06.42\00:32:07.76 the security knowing that my dad is coming back for me. 00:32:07.79\00:32:12.29 Jesus is coming back 00:32:12.33\00:32:13.66 and we have the hope of eternity forever together. 00:32:13.70\00:32:17.30 So that's what the blessed hope is, 00:32:17.33\00:32:19.10 is that your expectation that joyful assurance 00:32:19.13\00:32:23.10 that Jesus is coming again 00:32:23.14\00:32:25.61 and then if he comes again what will He do? 00:32:25.64\00:32:29.14 Or is it John 14:3 or...? 00:32:29.18\00:32:31.55 Yeah. 00:32:31.58\00:32:32.91 "Let not your heart be troubled..." 00:32:32.95\00:32:34.28 Yeah, "If I go to prepare a place for you, 00:32:34.32\00:32:36.18 I will come again..." 00:32:36.22\00:32:37.55 Yes. 00:32:37.59\00:32:38.92 So, you know that just all fits in there, 00:32:38.95\00:32:40.29 that we're all, it's right there. 00:32:40.32\00:32:43.29 And if you are mature in Christ, 00:32:43.32\00:32:46.39 if you have a mature relationship that's healthy. 00:32:46.43\00:32:49.16 So if you're healthy in Jesus, you know, 00:32:49.20\00:32:52.63 then you have that joyful assurance. 00:32:52.67\00:32:54.54 Amen. 00:32:54.57\00:32:55.90 Yes, I'm thinking of that, Jill, that you say 00:32:55.94\00:32:57.77 that even though we think about heaven 00:32:57.81\00:33:03.24 and that glorious day when we will go to heaven 00:33:03.28\00:33:06.35 and when everything will change to perfection and all that, 00:33:06.38\00:33:11.05 that we still can have that hope in here 00:33:11.09\00:33:13.96 for everything that happens to us. 00:33:13.99\00:33:16.29 When I think and you know 00:33:16.32\00:33:17.66 just recently with Angie losing her mother, 00:33:17.69\00:33:20.43 and then when I lost my father, 00:33:20.46\00:33:22.50 it was very painful but, but every time the pain came, 00:33:22.53\00:33:29.34 the hope that to see him again 00:33:29.37\00:33:31.47 and the joy that he had given his life to the Lord 00:33:31.51\00:33:34.91 and now no longer we were worried 00:33:34.94\00:33:38.15 about his salvation. 00:33:38.18\00:33:39.91 We didn't have that anymore, so that, 00:33:39.95\00:33:42.25 that to me it's like having heaven with us. 00:33:42.28\00:33:47.16 Christ with us will give you that assurance 00:33:47.19\00:33:50.29 and that, that hope, that excitement 00:33:50.33\00:33:53.96 but also that peaceful state of mind of spirit 00:33:54.00\00:34:00.04 to know that we are going to, 00:34:00.07\00:34:03.81 all these things is going to pass, 00:34:03.84\00:34:05.87 so therefore, all the pains, all the problems, 00:34:05.91\00:34:10.48 they're caught in probably we might have, 00:34:10.51\00:34:14.68 might feel the tenth of it, 00:34:14.72\00:34:17.42 the rest are taken away by you know that hope 00:34:17.45\00:34:20.06 that present with us. 00:34:20.09\00:34:22.62 You know, this is something, 00:34:22.66\00:34:23.99 the reason when we were asked last night to do this, 00:34:24.03\00:34:28.03 the reason that this top... 00:34:28.06\00:34:30.60 I think this topic just jumped into my mind 00:34:30.63\00:34:32.53 because it seems 00:34:32.57\00:34:33.90 that there's so many of you who have been calling 00:34:33.94\00:34:35.64 there's so much pain in the world right now. 00:34:35.67\00:34:38.71 We know so many of our brothers and sisters are hurting 00:34:38.74\00:34:42.18 because they've lost a mother, 00:34:42.21\00:34:44.35 they've lost a daughter, they've lost a spouse. 00:34:44.38\00:34:48.38 And I don't know how anyone goes through it, 00:34:48.42\00:34:51.75 without the hope of being, 00:34:51.79\00:34:54.62 without the hope of the resurrection 00:34:54.66\00:34:56.12 of being reunited, but you know on... 00:34:56.16\00:35:00.63 Well, I'll take my turn. 00:35:00.66\00:35:02.00 Let me get back to you 00:35:02.03\00:35:04.00 and I'll reserve a comment for a minute 00:35:04.03\00:35:06.00 but you expound on this for us please preacher man 00:35:06.03\00:35:09.94 1 Thessalonians 4. 00:35:09.97\00:35:11.44 What comes to my mind and I want to get on it, 00:35:11.47\00:35:15.28 I'll jump on this. 00:35:15.31\00:35:17.55 The truth is 00:35:17.58\00:35:19.25 sometimes even for Christians this life stinks. 00:35:19.28\00:35:22.92 Yep. Absolutely. 00:35:22.95\00:35:24.29 You know and there's no way to dress it up or spin it, 00:35:24.32\00:35:26.02 it's just stinky stuff happens. 00:35:26.05\00:35:29.59 I remember Elder Batch, first elder of the church, 00:35:29.62\00:35:34.80 the Advent Hope 87th Street, Manhattan. 00:35:34.83\00:35:36.87 The first day on the job, first elder of the church, 00:35:36.90\00:35:40.50 December, September 11th, 2001. 00:35:40.54\00:35:44.04 9/11, first day on the job never found his body, 00:35:44.07\00:35:47.61 never found his body. 00:35:47.64\00:35:49.24 And I remember when they had the memorial service 00:35:49.28\00:35:52.01 because there was nothing to have a funeral there 00:35:52.05\00:35:54.15 and the pastor even said, he said, 00:35:54.18\00:35:55.52 "Sometimes stuff happens it just doesn't make sense." 00:35:55.55\00:35:57.79 Yeah. Right. 00:35:57.82\00:35:59.15 You know doesn't, it just doesn't add up 00:35:59.19\00:36:00.52 first day on a job 00:36:00.56\00:36:02.86 and they never found his body, wife, 00:36:02.89\00:36:04.29 two kids left, you know, kind of thing. 00:36:04.33\00:36:07.43 And so, 1 Corinthians 15:17 comes to mind, 00:36:07.46\00:36:10.73 if in this world only, if this is his, 00:36:10.77\00:36:13.37 we are in trouble. 00:36:13.40\00:36:14.97 You know, it got to be something more than, 00:36:15.00\00:36:17.84 than this so if, if in this world 00:36:17.87\00:36:20.41 only we have hope, 00:36:20.44\00:36:22.81 we are of all people most pitiable, most miserable. 00:36:22.84\00:36:25.85 There's got to be something more to keep you going. 00:36:25.88\00:36:27.85 So how does his wife get up the next morning 00:36:27.88\00:36:31.15 and take care of those kids 00:36:31.19\00:36:32.72 and put one foot in front of the other 00:36:32.75\00:36:35.02 and get ready and get ready for the service 00:36:35.06\00:36:37.23 and then a couple of week go back to work 00:36:37.26\00:36:38.89 because she's got a family, because she's got, 00:36:38.93\00:36:40.86 she's got a blessed hope, she's got an eternal hope. 00:36:40.90\00:36:43.57 She's got to believe that there's more than just this. 00:36:43.60\00:36:47.70 And that's that, that's how you do it, Shelley, 00:36:47.74\00:36:49.70 because you, you latch on to something else. 00:36:49.74\00:36:52.47 There's something better than this. 00:36:52.51\00:36:53.84 There's a brighter day, weeping may endure for a night, 00:36:53.88\00:36:56.41 but joy is going to come in the morning. 00:36:56.44\00:36:58.71 That's what you hold on to, 00:36:58.75\00:37:00.35 so the Lord himself ascended to heaven with a shout." 00:37:00.38\00:37:04.09 Voice of the archangel and trumpet of God, 00:37:04.12\00:37:05.92 dead in Christ rise first, 00:37:05.95\00:37:07.49 then we which are alive and remain, 00:37:07.52\00:37:10.63 again that togetherness shall be caught up together 00:37:10.66\00:37:12.96 to meet them in the clouds, 00:37:12.99\00:37:15.33 and so shall we ever be with the Lord." 00:37:15.36\00:37:16.80 It's a fabulous, fabulous promise. 00:37:16.83\00:37:20.90 It is the promise of a grand reunion 00:37:20.94\00:37:24.07 that will go on for ever and ever and ever and ever. 00:37:24.11\00:37:27.94 You know getting old is getting old. 00:37:27.98\00:37:31.15 You know getting... 00:37:31.18\00:37:33.95 that's really, you got aches, you got pains, the idea, 00:37:33.98\00:37:37.39 I think just of the idea of that 00:37:37.42\00:37:39.69 you'll never get old, 00:37:39.72\00:37:41.36 that's about enough for me, you know, 00:37:41.39\00:37:43.12 you're not going to get old. 00:37:43.16\00:37:44.49 You're not going to get tired. 00:37:44.53\00:37:45.86 You know you move slower and slower 00:37:45.89\00:37:47.23 and slower and slower, 00:37:47.26\00:37:48.60 and some days you don't feel like moving at all 00:37:48.63\00:37:50.40 but you get up and move, 00:37:50.43\00:37:52.10 and one day you're going to get a brand new body. 00:37:52.13\00:37:55.07 And I don't know if we're really gonna fly. 00:37:55.10\00:37:57.14 I think we are because I want to, you know. 00:37:57.17\00:37:59.87 I want to be able to just fly. 00:37:59.91\00:38:02.74 I remember we were at the... 00:38:02.78\00:38:04.11 Star Trek kind of beaming, right. 00:38:04.15\00:38:05.65 Yeah, yeah the last time we went to Israel together, 00:38:05.68\00:38:07.85 we were in some place, 00:38:07.88\00:38:09.85 I think we went to Beit Shemesh up on that high mountain. 00:38:09.88\00:38:12.05 And you got up there so fast before everybody, 00:38:12.09\00:38:14.02 I said, "Where did Shelly get that energy." 00:38:14.06\00:38:15.89 Anyway standing up on top, you know I wish 00:38:15.92\00:38:18.89 if I just jumped off I could fly. 00:38:18.93\00:38:22.06 You had that thought? 00:38:22.10\00:38:23.43 I had that thought many times... 00:38:23.47\00:38:24.80 We're glad you didn't try it. Yeah. 00:38:24.83\00:38:26.17 I'm glad I didn't try, yeah. I resist. 00:38:26.20\00:38:27.94 That's great. 00:38:27.97\00:38:29.30 But I think that will be the most fun thing for me, 00:38:29.34\00:38:31.31 flying. 00:38:31.34\00:38:32.67 You know just leap off and just take off like a bird. 00:38:32.71\00:38:35.38 That is such an exciting thought. 00:38:35.41\00:38:37.18 That thought that God says 00:38:37.21\00:38:39.45 that there are many other worlds 00:38:39.48\00:38:41.22 that we have not seen yet 00:38:41.25\00:38:43.05 and to me the idea of going to visit those worlds 00:38:43.08\00:38:47.26 and to see people that, 00:38:47.29\00:38:50.53 you know, otherwise you would never have seen 00:38:50.56\00:38:53.63 unless we are in heaven with Jesus. 00:38:53.66\00:38:58.07 To me it's grand. 00:38:58.10\00:38:59.60 It seems to me like, you know, there's, a lot of questions. 00:38:59.63\00:39:02.67 The complexity of what you just ask him, 00:39:02.70\00:39:05.31 even to the point is our pet gonna be in heaven. 00:39:05.34\00:39:08.44 Now these are questions 00:39:08.48\00:39:09.81 that we just don't have answers to. 00:39:09.84\00:39:11.88 But he does say, you know, 00:39:11.91\00:39:13.62 that it will be better than anything 00:39:13.65\00:39:15.08 that we could ever imagine. 00:39:15.12\00:39:16.89 And so I think that is what you're saying C.A., 00:39:16.92\00:39:19.52 I think that you will fly. 00:39:19.55\00:39:21.99 You know because it's better than anything 00:39:22.02\00:39:23.59 you could think of, 00:39:23.63\00:39:25.09 so, but I mean there's not a thus saith Lord 00:39:25.13\00:39:27.66 so we're just kind of thank you Jesus that perhaps... 00:39:27.70\00:39:33.67 You know for me personally this, 00:39:33.70\00:39:36.07 this is the passage once again 00:39:36.10\00:39:40.41 and I'm looking at this through... 00:39:40.44\00:39:42.64 look at this passage through different lens than you all 00:39:42.68\00:39:45.95 because you grew up in additional truth 00:39:45.98\00:39:48.45 that I didn't have at the time, but this passage was the one 00:39:48.48\00:39:53.49 that completely hung me up all the time. 00:39:53.52\00:39:57.13 I was taught, first of all 00:39:57.16\00:39:58.86 that when you die you went to heaven, 00:39:58.89\00:40:01.53 you know, it wasn't that you slept 00:40:01.56\00:40:04.37 or rested in the grave for the return. 00:40:04.40\00:40:07.97 I was taught that it was something 00:40:08.00\00:40:13.61 that there was a secret coming of the Lord 00:40:13.64\00:40:17.01 and so, you know, you'd get off on that... 00:40:17.05\00:40:19.21 then I'd come to 1 Thessalonians 00:40:19.25\00:40:20.92 and I read it and I get there and I think what do you mean 00:40:20.95\00:40:24.72 you don't want us to be ignorant 00:40:24.75\00:40:26.09 about those who have fallen asleep, 00:40:26.12\00:40:27.59 what you mean fallen asleep. 00:40:27.62\00:40:29.92 "Lest you sorrow as others have no hope." 00:40:29.96\00:40:32.49 And then I would read the part where it says that, 00:40:32.53\00:40:35.96 "We who are alive and remain at the coming of the Lord 00:40:36.00\00:40:39.23 will by no means precede those who are asleep." 00:40:39.27\00:40:44.24 Okay, I've got to understand what asleep means, you know. 00:40:44.27\00:40:48.61 Compared to... 00:40:48.64\00:40:50.71 wait you mean I don't know... 00:40:50.75\00:40:54.12 if I don't preceded them 00:40:54.15\00:40:55.85 that means they're not up there either. 00:40:55.88\00:40:58.72 Precisely, right, right. 00:40:58.75\00:41:00.09 So, so it's like wow, and then when it says, 00:41:00.12\00:41:03.89 "He's gonna come with the voice of an archangel 00:41:03.93\00:41:07.03 with a shout, with the trumpet." 00:41:07.06\00:41:09.10 How can you get a secret coming out of that, so, 00:41:09.13\00:41:11.83 you know, yeah that's loud coming, 00:41:11.87\00:41:14.04 "The dead in Christ will rise first, 00:41:14.07\00:41:15.94 then we who are alive and remain 00:41:15.97\00:41:17.81 will be caught up in the air with him." 00:41:17.84\00:41:20.08 So I remember that as I began really studying this passage, 00:41:20.11\00:41:24.65 then I had to do the study on the sleep. 00:41:24.68\00:41:26.85 That's when before I ever even watched 3ABN 00:41:26.88\00:41:30.15 how God taught me the truth 00:41:30.19\00:41:31.82 about what happen when you die, you know, 00:41:31.85\00:41:34.02 I mean and then like John 5:28, 29 were Jesus said, 00:41:34.06\00:41:39.19 "You know don't marvel at this, there's gonna come a day, 00:41:39.23\00:41:42.00 if you've never heard the voice of the Lord, 00:41:42.03\00:41:43.80 you will one day let me tell you, 00:41:43.83\00:41:45.17 because all who are in their graves 00:41:45.20\00:41:47.60 will hear his voice all. 00:41:47.64\00:41:49.40 Some will come forth to the John 5:28, 00:41:49.44\00:41:52.77 to the resurrection of righteousness others 00:41:52.81\00:41:55.54 and we know a thousand years later, 00:41:55.58\00:41:57.01 when you look into Revelation 00:41:57.05\00:41:58.41 to the resurrection of condemnation. 00:41:58.45\00:42:00.52 But the whole point is you could take this passage... 00:42:00.55\00:42:05.65 You got it, this is about a thorough exegesis 00:42:05.69\00:42:07.26 on the state of the dead as you can get. 00:42:07.29\00:42:09.49 Absolutely. You can get it all right here. 00:42:09.52\00:42:11.19 Absolutely. Yes, yes. 00:42:11.23\00:42:12.66 But now here's, here's something else 00:42:12.69\00:42:14.46 that I just want to throw in here, 00:42:14.50\00:42:15.96 because once I have studied all of this, you know, 00:42:16.00\00:42:19.60 we're all sitting here saying, 00:42:19.63\00:42:20.97 "Oh, I'm so glad 00:42:21.00\00:42:22.34 I'll get to see my momma who is a Christian. 00:42:22.37\00:42:24.01 My daddy gave his heart to the Lord." 00:42:24.04\00:42:26.37 What about relatives who never did. 00:42:26.41\00:42:28.31 Yes. 00:42:28.34\00:42:29.68 You know I know that my father was baptized. 00:42:29.71\00:42:31.68 My father was killed when he was only 30 years old. 00:42:31.71\00:42:35.92 And I know he was baptized. 00:42:35.95\00:42:39.69 But on, I was reading his obituary the other day 00:42:39.72\00:42:42.16 and it still, 00:42:42.19\00:42:43.53 he had been divorced from my mother for several years 00:42:43.56\00:42:46.53 and he was still listed as a church, 00:42:46.56\00:42:49.06 as a member of her church. 00:42:49.10\00:42:50.87 So he had obviously not joined another church 00:42:50.90\00:42:53.47 and the thought has occurred to me, 00:42:53.50\00:42:56.14 you know what if he's not there and see this is what I think 00:42:56.17\00:43:00.18 is that understanding the blessed hope, 00:43:00.21\00:43:02.91 if you put these two scriptures together 00:43:02.94\00:43:05.31 to know that in that second resurrection 00:43:05.35\00:43:08.28 when people come up 00:43:08.32\00:43:10.45 to the resurrection of condemnation, 00:43:10.49\00:43:13.12 this earth when God destroys sin 00:43:13.15\00:43:15.99 which means he'll have to destroy sinners... 00:43:16.02\00:43:17.99 Yes. 00:43:18.03\00:43:19.36 To destroy sin 00:43:19.39\00:43:20.73 and it's just the brightness of His coming 00:43:20.76\00:43:22.33 because His divine love destroys sin. 00:43:22.36\00:43:26.23 I mean it's when He says... 00:43:26.27\00:43:28.17 Can't stand in His presence. 00:43:28.20\00:43:29.54 Yeah, he says, "We can't stand..." 00:43:29.57\00:43:30.91 because our God is a consuming fire 00:43:30.94\00:43:33.81 and divine love if you stay... 00:43:33.84\00:43:35.78 you know if this is us and this is God, 00:43:35.81\00:43:38.11 you get in front of His divine love 00:43:38.15\00:43:39.78 and phew, is sin is destroyed and it's just sucked up 00:43:39.81\00:43:44.45 but it makes me feel so calm to know 00:43:44.49\00:43:49.52 that if my father did not accept Jesus 00:43:49.56\00:43:54.40 he will be eternally destroyed. 00:43:54.43\00:43:57.17 We have either... 00:43:57.20\00:43:59.00 we either have eternal life. 00:43:59.03\00:44:01.30 You know, "For God so loved the world, 00:44:01.34\00:44:02.90 He gave His only begotten Son 00:44:02.94\00:44:04.67 that He who should believe in Him 00:44:04.71\00:44:06.11 would have eternal life who should not perish." 00:44:06.14\00:44:09.71 So they're either going to perish 00:44:09.74\00:44:11.08 or have eternal life. 00:44:11.11\00:44:12.45 It gives me such comfort 00:44:12.48\00:44:13.95 to know that he would merely perish 00:44:13.98\00:44:17.35 and not, not be tormented. 00:44:17.39\00:44:20.36 That's why we can be happy in heaven. 00:44:20.39\00:44:22.59 That's why there's no more tears, 00:44:22.62\00:44:24.06 no more sorrow, you know... 00:44:24.09\00:44:26.53 And if there's the tear, that tear would be wiped away. 00:44:26.56\00:44:29.50 And that's why he can end this with 00:44:29.53\00:44:31.23 wherefore comfort one another with these words. 00:44:31.27\00:44:33.17 It is comforting to know, to think 00:44:33.20\00:44:35.04 that your loved one or someone you even knew 00:44:35.07\00:44:38.37 is writhing eternally in pain, 00:44:38.41\00:44:40.91 how in world can heaven be heaven 00:44:40.94\00:44:42.54 with that thought washing in the back of your mind. 00:44:42.58\00:44:45.81 And you know I have to say this because I know 00:44:45.85\00:44:47.18 that there's somebody that's watching tonight 00:44:47.22\00:44:48.78 and you're saying, what do you mean that, 00:44:48.82\00:44:50.15 you know, God had a, 00:44:50.19\00:44:51.52 I mean God's reputation has been attacked. 00:44:51.55\00:44:53.56 This whole idea of an eternal burning fire, 00:44:53.59\00:44:57.33 this idea was brought into the church 00:44:57.36\00:44:59.86 by a Tunisian who had, 00:44:59.89\00:45:03.57 he had been a pagan, philosopher 00:45:03.60\00:45:05.67 and then he converted to Christianity in 196 A.D. 00:45:05.70\00:45:08.57 His name was Tertullian. 00:45:08.60\00:45:10.11 He was a follower of Pluto who was a follower of Socrates 00:45:10.14\00:45:14.08 and they both taught Greek mythology 00:45:14.11\00:45:17.18 that this idea of an eternal burning fire 00:45:17.21\00:45:20.88 and so, so Tertullian 00:45:20.92\00:45:23.75 who became an ecclesiastical writer, 00:45:23.79\00:45:26.22 he takes the works of Plato 00:45:26.25\00:45:28.26 and introduces them into the church, 00:45:28.29\00:45:30.43 because for the first century 00:45:30.46\00:45:33.03 in three quarters of the second century, 00:45:33.06\00:45:35.40 all of the apostolic fathers, 00:45:35.43\00:45:37.07 all of the fathers of the church 00:45:37.10\00:45:38.57 taught that you either there was the way of life 00:45:38.60\00:45:42.44 and the way of death. 00:45:42.47\00:45:44.04 There was no eternal, I mean it was either eternal life 00:45:44.07\00:45:47.01 or eternal death. 00:45:47.04\00:45:48.41 So this whole idea that's been brought in 00:45:48.44\00:45:52.11 is unscriptural, and I challenge you, 00:45:52.15\00:45:54.22 if you don't agree with us 00:45:54.25\00:45:55.58 and you think those people are crazy. 00:45:55.62\00:45:57.89 I want you to do me a favor, 00:45:57.92\00:45:59.72 you just go and check it out in the Bible. 00:45:59.75\00:46:03.63 Oh, go ahead 00:46:03.66\00:46:04.99 If I can just jump back to something that you said, 00:46:05.03\00:46:07.06 because that, that thought has troubled me 00:46:07.10\00:46:09.20 sometimes just being honest 00:46:09.23\00:46:11.30 is what about the people who don't know 00:46:11.33\00:46:14.84 and love God who haven't made a decision, 00:46:14.87\00:46:17.34 who haven't made a commitment, what about family members 00:46:17.37\00:46:20.71 who right now are not walking with God, 00:46:20.74\00:46:24.91 and maybe they've had a choice to follow God 00:46:24.95\00:46:28.08 and they've chosen to walk away 00:46:28.12\00:46:30.49 and we know that it is never too late 00:46:30.52\00:46:32.85 to turn around and to come back. 00:46:32.89\00:46:34.32 So as long as probation lingers, 00:46:34.36\00:46:37.03 there is a chance, 00:46:37.06\00:46:38.39 there is the time for them to repent 00:46:38.43\00:46:39.86 and to the come back to God, 00:46:39.89\00:46:41.56 but that has troubled me because I think. 00:46:41.60\00:46:45.17 How do you know but to me and this is not theological, 00:46:45.20\00:46:48.60 this is just personal for my own heart, 00:46:48.64\00:46:50.71 so Pastor CA and Shelley, 00:46:50.74\00:46:52.24 and you theologians can correct, 00:46:52.27\00:46:53.94 but from my own heart, 00:46:53.98\00:46:55.31 it gives me comfort to know God is a righteous judge. 00:46:55.34\00:46:59.01 Amen. Amen. 00:46:59.05\00:47:00.38 He knows the end from the beginning, 00:47:00.42\00:47:03.25 He knows the inner workings of each one of our hearts, 00:47:03.28\00:47:06.79 and I believe when we get to the end and Jesus comes 00:47:06.82\00:47:10.39 and we'll be in heaven. 00:47:10.43\00:47:12.99 We will know at that point, 00:47:13.03\00:47:14.60 we can look at the record books, 00:47:14.63\00:47:16.33 and we will know at that point 00:47:16.36\00:47:18.63 they were given every opportunity 00:47:18.67\00:47:20.74 to accept Jesus and they chose to reject Him, 00:47:20.77\00:47:25.04 you know, that that's brings comfort to me 00:47:25.07\00:47:27.11 in my heart to know that. 00:47:27.14\00:47:28.48 And that they probably wouldn't be happy 00:47:28.51\00:47:29.84 if they were there. 00:47:29.88\00:47:31.21 And that's not theology, that's more of chronology 00:47:31.25\00:47:34.02 that's what family does. 00:47:34.05\00:47:35.92 You know God doeth all things well, 00:47:35.95\00:47:37.69 and ultimately we have to trust God 00:47:37.72\00:47:39.29 that God is not trying to keep anybody out, 00:47:39.32\00:47:41.46 He's trying to get everybody in, 00:47:41.49\00:47:42.86 so but He cannot go against our own will which is... 00:47:42.89\00:47:46.86 You know, was a time that it troubles me 00:47:46.90\00:47:49.30 also the fact that God, God is gonna chose, 00:47:49.33\00:47:54.00 you know, the sins of those who love ones 00:47:54.04\00:47:56.60 that would not be there. 00:47:56.64\00:47:59.04 I said, oh, I don't want to see those, you know that, 00:47:59.07\00:48:02.21 that's a terrible thing, 00:48:02.24\00:48:04.38 but when you think it in the character of God, 00:48:04.41\00:48:07.75 it is a hope because when he chose them. 00:48:07.78\00:48:13.76 We being sinners in the past and now we are perfect. 00:48:13.79\00:48:19.26 We have no sin. 00:48:19.29\00:48:21.13 We are gonna see how terrible that is, 00:48:21.16\00:48:24.63 and how terrible that is, and how important it is, 00:48:24.67\00:48:29.74 and how right and loving God is that He's showing us, 00:48:29.77\00:48:36.64 because even to that point He wants us to know who He is. 00:48:36.68\00:48:41.48 He wants us to see Him as a perfect God 00:48:41.52\00:48:44.39 and a loving God. 00:48:44.42\00:48:46.89 Otherwise, if you think of the other way, 00:48:46.92\00:48:50.73 if we never knew why, 00:48:50.76\00:48:53.86 those loved ones that perished, 00:48:53.90\00:48:58.17 it would not have been complete, 00:48:58.20\00:49:00.00 the perfection would not be complete because God can, 00:49:00.04\00:49:06.11 you know, take away all feelings of, 00:49:06.14\00:49:10.18 human feelings, human thought but... 00:49:10.21\00:49:12.51 The Bible says, He opens the books that... 00:49:12.55\00:49:14.38 That will not be complete, to me then it's not complete. 00:49:14.42\00:49:18.55 So that, that's the hope like you said 00:49:18.59\00:49:21.52 so that is a hope that they will not live forever. 00:49:21.56\00:49:25.49 Yes, that's right. 00:49:25.53\00:49:26.86 Because then also they will be there for evidence 00:49:26.90\00:49:30.30 and hope, there is no more hope, 00:49:30.33\00:49:32.37 but just wishing 00:49:32.40\00:49:34.47 that they would have been different come, 00:49:34.50\00:49:36.87 that is not love. 00:49:36.91\00:49:38.81 They will in ash the Bible says. 00:49:38.84\00:49:41.28 That's not a perfect. Amen. 00:49:41.31\00:49:42.94 Honey, do you have another thought? 00:49:42.98\00:49:44.51 No, not really, the one thing does catch my attention though 00:49:44.55\00:49:47.78 is the last sentence, 00:49:47.82\00:49:49.15 "And the dead in Christ will rise first, 00:49:49.18\00:49:51.65 then we who are alive 00:49:51.69\00:49:53.69 and remain shall be caught up together with him 00:49:53.72\00:49:55.92 in the clouds with the Lord." 00:49:55.96\00:49:58.56 And you know there is a teaching out there 00:49:58.59\00:50:00.10 that the there could be sightings of Jesus 00:50:00.13\00:50:03.20 in South Africa walking. 00:50:03.23\00:50:05.80 There are sightings over here that Jesus is walking. 00:50:05.83\00:50:09.44 Well, this makes it perfectly clear 00:50:09.47\00:50:11.11 in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17, that whenever Jesus comes, 00:50:11.14\00:50:16.21 He's not going to put His feet on this ground. 00:50:16.24\00:50:18.41 We're going to meet Him in the air, 00:50:18.45\00:50:20.65 and I think that's something 00:50:20.68\00:50:22.02 that some somebody needs to hear because... 00:50:22.05\00:50:24.45 That's right. 00:50:24.49\00:50:25.82 They don't... 00:50:25.85\00:50:27.39 It's easy to get caught up and it's, you know, 00:50:27.42\00:50:29.59 we're told that it's even the elite could be deceived. 00:50:29.62\00:50:33.46 You know, when you know the truth 00:50:33.50\00:50:34.83 about the state of the dead, 00:50:34.86\00:50:36.46 when you know the truth about the word of God, 00:50:36.50\00:50:38.07 it demystifies 00:50:38.10\00:50:39.43 and demythologizes all of this craziness. 00:50:39.47\00:50:44.81 Satan has so woven this thing that he got people in bondages, 00:50:44.84\00:50:48.31 he got people in fear. 00:50:48.34\00:50:49.94 You know something goes bump in the night. 00:50:49.98\00:50:51.71 I was just telling a bunch of people in the Philippines, 00:50:51.75\00:50:53.35 I said if you, if you lost your wallet in the cemetery, 00:50:53.38\00:50:56.42 you went to funereal and you realize, 00:50:56.45\00:50:58.59 "Oh, I left my wallet to grave side, 00:50:58.62\00:51:00.29 and it's noon would you go to the cemetery and get it." 00:51:00.32\00:51:02.16 Of course, "He would" I said, 00:51:02.19\00:51:03.53 "Well, what if you didn't find that out 00:51:03.56\00:51:04.89 till 12 o'clock in the night, 00:51:04.93\00:51:06.26 how many will go to the cemetery 00:51:06.29\00:51:07.63 to get that wallet?" 00:51:07.66\00:51:09.00 They don't know but they go why. 00:51:09.03\00:51:10.83 Why would you go at 12 o'clock, 00:51:10.87\00:51:12.23 what's the difference between in 12 o'clock noon 00:51:12.27\00:51:14.07 and 12 o'clock night. 00:51:14.10\00:51:15.44 There's nobody in that cemetery 00:51:15.47\00:51:17.44 in the grave that's gonna harm me. 00:51:17.47\00:51:19.67 There may be a robber there but doesn't know what's there, 00:51:19.71\00:51:21.78 but in the back of our minds 00:51:21.81\00:51:23.14 we've bought into this Satanic lie 00:51:23.18\00:51:24.91 that the dead are not really dead, you know. 00:51:24.95\00:51:27.68 So why should you be afraid 00:51:27.72\00:51:29.05 when something goes bump in the night. 00:51:29.08\00:51:31.42 If you know the truth about, about the state of the dead, 00:51:31.45\00:51:35.02 it is comforting to know that that when you die you rest 00:51:35.06\00:51:39.39 until Christ comes back to get you. 00:51:39.43\00:51:41.20 He's not sending somebody, 00:51:41.23\00:51:42.56 he's not sending a butler or maid, 00:51:42.60\00:51:43.97 He's coming Himself, that's how much He loves you. 00:51:44.00\00:51:46.10 That's a comforting thought and the dead will remain dead 00:51:46.13\00:51:49.60 until the time of the executive judgment, 00:51:49.64\00:51:54.14 and then God will deal with sin and sinners 00:51:54.18\00:51:57.31 and then it will be done, 00:51:57.35\00:51:58.68 and then as we began this though, 00:51:58.71\00:52:00.18 there will be a new heaven and a new earth 00:52:00.22\00:52:03.02 and no more sin. 00:52:03.05\00:52:04.55 And so, let me read the affirmation one more time. 00:52:04.59\00:52:06.86 These two passages of scripture 00:52:06.89\00:52:09.79 that is taken from Revelation 21:1-7 00:52:09.82\00:52:13.19 and 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17, 00:52:13.23\00:52:17.30 "When the New Jerusalem comes down 00:52:17.33\00:52:19.87 to the new recreated earth, God will dwell with us 00:52:19.90\00:52:23.17 as he originally planned a creation. 00:52:23.20\00:52:25.17 He will make all things new and never again 00:52:25.21\00:52:28.24 will we suffer the pain of death, sorrow or cry. 00:52:28.28\00:52:32.01 He will satisfy our thirsty souls 00:52:32.05\00:52:34.48 with the fountain of the water of eternal life 00:52:34.52\00:52:37.09 and we will be His forever. 00:52:37.12\00:52:39.45 Joy upon joy, 00:52:39.49\00:52:40.82 God will reunite us with our loved ones 00:52:40.86\00:52:43.39 who have fallen asleep in Christ, 00:52:43.43\00:52:45.43 and we have eternity 00:52:45.46\00:52:47.70 to spend with those for whom our heartaches now, 00:52:47.73\00:52:51.13 if we're alive it is coming, 00:52:51.17\00:52:52.77 we won't proceed into His presence without them, 00:52:52.80\00:52:56.20 for the coming of the Lord, He will shout His command 00:52:56.24\00:52:59.77 and the dead in Christ will rise first, 00:52:59.81\00:53:01.64 then we will all be caught up together 00:53:01.68\00:53:04.25 to meet the Lord in the air 00:53:04.28\00:53:06.21 and thus we shall always be with the Lord." 00:53:06.25\00:53:09.42 Hallelujah. Amen. 00:53:09.45\00:53:10.79 Well, it is indeed blessed hope 00:53:10.82\00:53:13.59 and we hope we have eager expectation 00:53:13.62\00:53:17.83 that as you hear the word of the Lord 00:53:17.86\00:53:21.30 and maybe you've never heard these promises before, 00:53:21.33\00:53:23.53 we want you to look these up Revelation 21:1-7 00:53:23.57\00:53:28.80 and 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17, study those and you will find 00:53:28.84\00:53:34.08 that as you put God's word into your mind, 00:53:34.11\00:53:37.51 it will get implanted into your heart 00:53:37.55\00:53:39.75 and it will bring you that hope. 00:53:39.78\00:53:42.28 Let's, we have a few minutes left, 00:53:42.32\00:53:44.09 I think that we should close this time off 00:53:44.12\00:53:46.89 with some prayer. 00:53:46.92\00:53:48.26 Jill, you want to start? Sure. 00:53:48.29\00:53:50.13 Father, we come before You in the name of Jesus 00:53:50.16\00:53:52.13 and we thank You for the hope we have of eternal life 00:53:52.16\00:53:57.17 and not just for us ourselves Father about for our loved ones 00:53:57.20\00:54:01.14 and our neighbors and community. 00:54:01.17\00:54:04.21 Father, we thank You for the gift of salvation 00:54:04.24\00:54:07.44 and for this blessed hope 00:54:07.48\00:54:09.34 and we look forward to it with eager expectation. 00:54:09.38\00:54:12.75 I lift up our brothers and sisters 00:54:12.78\00:54:14.68 who are watching just now 00:54:14.72\00:54:16.72 and I pray for you to pour in your comfort, 00:54:16.75\00:54:20.36 the oil of your Holy Spirit 00:54:20.39\00:54:21.92 to someone whose heart is hurting, 00:54:21.96\00:54:24.26 that you would bring hope again 00:54:24.29\00:54:27.40 that you would remind our precious brothers and sisters 00:54:27.43\00:54:31.07 that weeping sometimes endures for the night, 00:54:31.10\00:54:35.00 but joy always comes in the morning. 00:54:35.04\00:54:38.81 We thank you for the promise of a new heaven 00:54:38.84\00:54:42.24 and a new earth. 00:54:42.28\00:54:44.58 Lord, you are Jehovah Shalom, the God of peace, 00:54:44.61\00:54:49.62 and we thank You Lord that Your hope overflows in us 00:54:49.65\00:54:54.82 that you just cause our hearts to bubble over with 00:54:54.86\00:54:57.76 hope and eager expectation all that you will do, 00:54:57.79\00:55:01.33 and Lord thank you so much 00:55:01.36\00:55:02.80 that You didn't leave us as orphans, 00:55:02.83\00:55:04.37 but that you sent Your Holy Spirit 00:55:04.40\00:55:06.90 to live in our hearts 00:55:06.94\00:55:08.87 and that You gave us Your word that we might know 00:55:08.90\00:55:14.21 what is going to happen in Jesus' name. 00:55:14.24\00:55:18.31 And Father, just as we come together on the Sabbath, 00:55:18.35\00:55:21.28 I just want to thank you once again Lord, 00:55:21.32\00:55:23.42 that we can call upon Your name. 00:55:23.45\00:55:25.52 And Father, it may be a sample issue, 00:55:25.55\00:55:27.29 just help me Jesus, and Father, 00:55:27.32\00:55:29.69 we know that You have ears and eyes to see. 00:55:29.72\00:55:32.06 We know that You love each one of us. 00:55:32.09\00:55:34.46 And Father, whether it's a daily walk 00:55:34.50\00:55:36.53 or whether Lord, we need crutches to get around. 00:55:36.56\00:55:40.90 Father, we know as we call upon You, 00:55:40.94\00:55:43.61 You're there. 00:55:43.64\00:55:44.97 So Father, we thank You, we love You 00:55:45.01\00:55:47.81 and of course, Lord, we give you all praise and glory. 00:55:47.84\00:55:50.88 Amen. 00:55:50.91\00:55:52.41 Heavenly Father, we so thankful Lord 00:55:52.45\00:55:55.35 that You have told us 00:55:55.38\00:55:57.09 that You don't want us to be ignorance 00:55:57.12\00:55:59.55 because that gives us the promise 00:55:59.59\00:56:02.29 and the assurance that when we search Your word, 00:56:02.32\00:56:06.23 You will teach us everything that we need to know 00:56:06.26\00:56:09.63 so that we will not be ignorance 00:56:09.66\00:56:11.70 and that we would not only would learn of you, 00:56:11.73\00:56:15.30 but would also learn to love You as do the serve 00:56:15.34\00:56:18.84 and we thank you Father in Jesus' name. 00:56:18.87\00:56:21.18 Amen. 00:56:21.21\00:56:22.78 Father God, we hear and understand 00:56:22.81\00:56:24.58 that this earth is waxen old like a garment 00:56:24.61\00:56:27.35 and we too are waxen old, but we've been given a promise 00:56:27.38\00:56:31.45 that we can be renewed each day in inner man. 00:56:31.49\00:56:35.06 But the promise is the hope 00:56:35.09\00:56:36.49 is that one day the outer garment 00:56:36.52\00:56:38.56 will be made new also. 00:56:38.59\00:56:40.36 This mortality will take on immortality. 00:56:40.40\00:56:42.90 And oh, Father, 00:56:42.93\00:56:44.27 we look forward with eager expectation 00:56:44.30\00:56:45.83 to that day when we shall see Jesus face 00:56:45.87\00:56:49.20 to blessed face and ascend with Him in the clouds 00:56:49.24\00:56:52.54 and then we will always be with the Lord, 00:56:52.57\00:56:54.81 no more parting, no more separation, 00:56:54.84\00:56:57.25 no more death and no more dying. 00:56:57.28\00:56:59.38 Oh, Father, may that hope boil us up, 00:56:59.41\00:57:03.45 may it give us eagle's wings to soar above sin 00:57:03.49\00:57:07.09 and to know that one day soon and very soon, 00:57:07.12\00:57:10.46 Jesus will come to take His children home. 00:57:10.49\00:57:13.33 Oh, Father, please come quickly, 00:57:13.36\00:57:16.06 we await Your coming here 00:57:16.10\00:57:17.47 and thank you dear Father in Jesus' name, amen. 00:57:17.50\00:57:19.53 Amen. Amen. 00:57:19.57\00:57:22.17 Well, well we're so grateful that you joined us tonight. 00:57:22.20\00:57:25.47 And our prayer for you is that the grace of our Lord 00:57:25.51\00:57:28.34 and Savior Jesus Christ, the love of the Father 00:57:28.38\00:57:31.11 and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit 00:57:31.15\00:57:33.18 will be with you now and always. 00:57:33.21\00:57:35.82 Bye-bye. 00:57:35.85\00:57:37.19