Today Family Worship

Personal Testimony

Three Angels Broadcasting Network

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Participants: Kenny & Chris Shelton

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Program Code: TDYFW016026A


00:01 I want to spend my life
00:07 Mending broken people
00:12 I wanna spend my life
00:18 Removing pain
00:23 Lord, let my words
00:30 Heal a heart that hurts
00:34 I wanna spend my life
00:40 Mending broken people
00:45 I wanna spend my life
00:51 Mending broken people.
01:06 Hello, Happy Sabbath
01:08 and welcome to 3ABN's family worship.
01:11 I am Chris Shelton
01:13 and I'm here with my husband Pastor Kenny Shelton
01:15 and we are so thankful to come into your home tonight
01:18 and to have worship with you.
01:19 And we have some wonderful guests with us.
01:21 And as I've said on a prior program,
01:24 we have to be on our best behavior
01:26 because to our right, is Sister Mollie Steenson
01:30 and she is the vice-president and general manager of 3ABN,
01:34 so we really got to watch our P's and Q's here.
01:36 I will, honey. Thank you. Yeah.
01:38 It is a joy to be here
01:41 and you just be yourself with me
01:43 because I guarantee you this
01:45 and people that know me will tell you this,
01:47 I am just myself with you.
01:48 Amen. That's right, that's right.
01:50 So we love you, Sister Mollie,
01:51 and I see the love of Jesus in your heart
01:54 and we like it when you're here with us,
01:55 we actually love it.
01:57 And to my left, somebody else I love,
01:59 this is my sister-in-law, Tamie,
02:01 and my brother-in-law, Bruce,
02:03 and they work in the donations department here,
02:05 they keep busy with all of the things,
02:08 that you have a home that you're sending in,
02:10 they're taking care of it and we really appreciate them.
02:13 Do you like being here too, Tim?
02:15 We're glad to be here, absolutely.
02:17 Good time of worship together. Amen, that is good.
02:20 Well, you know,
02:22 I think we've got a wonderful subject for tonight
02:24 because I know that there's a lot of people
02:27 who feel a need for something better.
02:29 They're feeling a need for the truth,
02:31 they want to know really, what truth is
02:34 and I've always said, if you ever pray and you say,
02:36 "Lord, show me the truth."
02:38 Your life is going to change
02:40 and there's a lot of people in this world
02:42 that are looking for hope, you know, we turn on the news
02:46 and we see all of these things that are happening in America
02:49 and other countries and it's heartbreaking
02:52 and people are asking, 'Is there any hope?'
02:55 And so our subject title tonight is,
02:57 "How to become a Christian?
03:00 How to become a Christian?" Oh, wow.
03:01 And I think it's not only gonna help those of you
03:03 who, maybe, have never looked into becoming a Christian.
03:06 I think it's also gonna help those of us
03:08 who are Christians that, maybe,
03:10 we haven't looked at all of the ramification
03:12 of just what a Christian really is,
03:15 but before we go into our study,
03:16 I'm gonna pass it over to my sister-in-law, Tammy,
03:19 'cause she's gonna lead us, her and her brother, Kenny,
03:22 they're gonna lead us in some wonderful music.
03:25 Okay, we've got a dear lady with us,
03:28 Marlene Hall,
03:29 and she's gonna play the piano for us,
03:31 she's been playing for most of her life,
03:32 I would imagine.
03:34 And she does an excellent job and we're gonna start out with,
03:37 I keep falling in love with Him.
03:39 And we want you at home to sing with us.
03:41 Absolute.
03:50 I keep falling in love with Him
03:53 Over and over and over and over again
03:58 I keep falling in love with Him
04:01 Over and over and over and over again.
04:06 He gets sweeter and sweeter
04:09 As the days go by
04:11 Oh, what a love between my Lord and I,
04:14 I just keep falling in love with Him
04:17 Over and over and over and over again
04:22 I keep falling in love with Him
04:25 Over and over and over and over again
04:30 I keep falling in love with Him
04:33 Over and over and over and over again
04:38 He gets sweeter and sweeter
04:41 As the days go by
04:43 Oh, what a love between my Lord and I
04:47 Just keep falling in love with Him
04:50 Over and over and over and over again.
04:55 You know what? Amen.
04:57 These two little choruses, because it was all selfishness
05:00 because I sing these two songs at camp meeting
05:02 and so it was good on my mind, it was familiar so...
05:06 Well, it's also...
05:07 The rest of you had to catch up.
05:08 It fits right in with our subject matter
05:12 and I just wanna encourage people
05:13 before we do the other song, as you mentioned,
05:16 'How to become a Christian'
05:17 and people say, "Oh, I've got that together.'
05:19 But, you know,
05:21 I believe the Holy Spirit is gonna help us
05:22 because it is a simple subject
05:24 but yet complex and it can be just as deep
05:26 and as long as you wanna dig.
05:28 There's more information there.
05:29 So we pray that it'll be a blessing today
05:31 and that's the songs fit right in, Tammy.
05:33 Oh, good. Absolutely. Absolutely.
05:34 Everybody knows.
05:36 Heaven came down and Glory filled My Soul.
05:38 I know everybody knows that.
05:39 I can remember when I was, maybe, five or six years old,
05:43 me and my two cousins, Doris and Loray,
05:46 would sing a trio, three parts, we were, like,
05:48 five, six, and seven and we were always saying,
05:51 "Heaven came down and Glory filled My Soul."
05:53 So I know everybody out there knows it,
05:55 so no excuses for not joining in and helping us
05:58 'cause we need help, there's only a few of us here today.
06:00 That's right. Yeah.
06:02 We do.
06:12 Heaven came down
06:13 And glory filled my soul
06:20 When at the cross
06:22 The Savior made me whole
06:26 Made me whole
06:29 My sins were washed away
06:33 An my night was turned to day
06:38 Heaven came down
06:40 And glory filled my soul!
06:47 Heaven came down
06:49 And glory filled my soul
06:53 Filled my soul
06:56 When at the cross
06:58 The Savior made me whole
07:02 Made me whole
07:05 My sins were washed away
07:09 And my night was turned to day
07:14 Heaven came down
07:16 And glory filled my soul!
07:23 Praise the Lord. Amen. Thank you.
07:26 Well, if you break that song down,
07:27 both of those songs, I think it would really sum up
07:30 what we're gonna study about today.
07:32 How to become a Christian?
07:33 And to begin with,
07:35 we're gonna jump right into the scripture.
07:36 Let's look at John, I mean, chapter 8:30, 31.
07:41 And, Sister Mollie, I'm gonna throw it over to you,
07:43 if you wouldn't mind to read that for us.
07:45 She can even have an open prayer,
07:46 if she would like to do that first and then...
07:47 Oh, absolutely, sure. Yes.
07:49 Would you do that please for us?
07:50 I would be delighted. Thank you.
07:51 Thank you. Let's pray.
07:53 Holy Father, we come before you in the name of Jesus
07:54 and we praise you
07:56 and thank you, Lord, for your presence that's here.
07:58 We ask now, God,
08:00 that you would just touch our hearts
08:02 and touch our lips
08:04 and let the words that come forth,
08:06 Father, touch the needs that those who are listening
08:10 and watching us today.
08:11 And, Father, I pray for everybody
08:13 under the sound of our voice, you will touch their hearts,
08:16 open their hearts, oh, Father.
08:18 Our hearts cry today
08:20 as through the power of your Word,
08:22 we will be drawn closer to you.
08:24 We will be conformed not to this world
08:27 but to your image and likeness.
08:28 That's our prayer, in Jesus' name.
08:31 Thank you. Amen.
08:32 Amen. Praise the Lord.
08:34 Okay, Well, the first scripture we are looking at
08:36 is John Chapter 8:30, 31.
08:40 I'm going to read it to you.
08:43 And then I want to expand on it just a bit
08:45 and then I'll pitch it to the others,
08:47 "As He spoke these words, many believed on Him.
08:52 Then said Jesus to those Jews who believed on Him,
08:56 If you continue in my word,
08:59 then are you my disciples indeed."
09:01 And, ladies and gentlemen,
09:02 I've looked up the word, 'believe'
09:04 and actually and I love the amplifier.
09:07 I've got this amplified Bible,
09:09 I've talked about it a few times,
09:10 as you can see the cover's off, it is falling apart
09:15 and it's just written there in all over the place
09:18 but the amplifier does that,
09:19 it just, kind of, amplifies the word
09:21 and that word 'believe,'
09:22 when you're reading it in the amplified,
09:24 it's instead of saying, "Many believed on Him,"
09:27 it would say, "Many believed, trusted,
09:30 relied on and adhered to Him."
09:33 It's more than just saying,
09:34 "Oh, yeah, I give mental consent,
09:36 that I believe Jesus really was a good guy,
09:39 really was even God's son
09:41 or really was the Savior of the universe.
09:43 You adhere to Him, rely on Him,
09:46 being conformed to His image and His likeness
09:49 and then it goes on to say, "Then Jesus, then said Jesus
09:54 to those Jews who believed on Him,
09:55 If you continue in my word."
09:57 That's not just reading a scripture every morning.
10:00 That means hold fast to my teachings
10:03 and live in accordance with them.
10:05 It's more to within surficial,
10:07 this wall with the Lord Jesus Christ,
10:10 of being a Christian is not just surficial,
10:14 I mean, it takes our...
10:15 We must give Him our whole heart.
10:17 Amen. Amen.
10:19 God is really the key,
10:21 God is looking for a contrite heart.
10:23 He's looking for seriousness and there's also three point,
10:26 you touched on one, the belief
10:28 and I think 'continue in my word'
10:31 is another one and 'disciples.'
10:33 All three of those points, we're gonna cover here,
10:35 I wanna talk about the part that says,
10:38 'my word' because I found this little quote,
10:40 In The Faith I Live By, and it says,
10:43 "The Bible is the great standard
10:46 of right and wrong.
10:47 Clearly defining sin and holiness,
10:50 its principles running through our lives
10:53 like threads of gold,
10:55 our only safeguard in trial and temptation."
10:59 So I think as we come in, we're learning to trust,
11:02 we're learning to believe,
11:03 we're learning to fully lean on Christ.
11:06 And we're learning it through His word,
11:08 through his word.
11:09 We've got to be and I love how it says,
11:11 'if you continue' because a lot of times I think people,
11:15 they'll study, maybe, only once a week
11:17 when they go to church.
11:19 But 'continue' needs to be a daily thing,
11:23 a daily appetite as it were.
11:25 We need to be hungering for the word
11:27 each and every day.
11:29 That caught me 'the Bible is the great standard
11:31 of right and wrong.'
11:33 That's what's wrong with our world today,
11:35 is the Bible, is not the standard
11:38 to so many people.
11:40 So they have no standard of right and wrong.
11:42 It's what's good for me, what helps me,
11:45 what puts me on top.
11:47 It's not what the Bible says. Yes.
11:49 Good, very good point.
11:51 You know, you think about that, when it says,
11:52 'if you continue' and it's brought out here,
11:54 if we remain in the word, if we abide...
11:57 Hold fast to my teachings...
11:59 Hold fast to, and I like one thing.
12:01 When God said, "Stay in it.
12:04 Stay in it."
12:05 Well, that's pretty simple for me
12:07 and all these other words you say, 'stay in the word.'
12:09 I thought how interesting to stay in the word
12:11 and when he said, 'a disciple' I looked at that word,
12:14 the interesting disciple.
12:15 'Cause we, kind of, we're disciples of Christ
12:17 but it always means a learner.
12:21 We are to be a learner in the school of Christ,
12:24 we are eight people.
12:25 So we've started to, you know,
12:27 a class that will never graduate
12:28 from hopefully just in heaven,
12:30 we'll continue to learn.
12:32 And one thing I think that helps in the days
12:34 that we're living in
12:36 'cause we're living in such a technological world,
12:38 is you've got all of these little devices,
12:41 I remember back in the 80s, when I was in college,
12:44 I was in the Southern Missionary College.
12:46 And it was very expensive to get the Bible on cassette
12:50 but all of us are busy
12:52 and if you feel like you're too busy to stay in it,
12:55 you know, maybe, more than a half hour to an hour,
12:58 you can continue to listen to it now for free,
13:01 just download and listen, it's a beautiful thing.
13:03 So...
13:05 Now that to me, that's amazing
13:06 when you think about what Christ says,
13:08 'if you continue in my word,
13:10 ' I found a little something here.
13:11 Bruce, you may have something, maybe add to this,
13:13 I thought was interesting, I found...
13:15 I love Spirit of Prophecy, so I always look at it.
13:18 I pray in the each one of you, getting into,
13:20 along with the Word of God,
13:22 it always just brightens that up,
13:23 it just illuminates to help somebody like me
13:26 to be able to understand the truth and you're thinking,
13:28 "If we do that, well be a disciple,
13:30 we're gonna be saved in the king.
13:31 You believed on Him, you know, you're gonna be my disciples.
13:34 But it says, why is the world in a shape that it's in?
13:37 Why is it?
13:39 This little comment here, these three little lines.
13:41 Five Testimony, 433 says, "But these divine utterances"
13:46 Jesus making these utterances, says,
13:47 "If it finds no place in the heart of one
13:50 who is of the world and loves its pleasures."
13:54 The words that Jesus said, just what you just read,
13:56 He spake, "Believe on Him."
13:58 You know, stay in the word.
14:00 But they find no law,
14:01 these are the words of Jesus Christ.
14:03 They're to find lodging, Bruce, in the heart,
14:07 in our heart, find a place there, you know,
14:09 so it can grow and to spread.
14:11 But if our hearts are somewhere else,
14:13 around the world, things of the world,
14:15 it doesn't find lodging there, we just don't want it there.
14:17 Do you find that too? Yeah. That's true.
14:19 I thought it was interesting
14:22 to see what the test of a disciple really is.
14:25 And if we go to II Corinthians 5:17,
14:29 "If any man be in Christ, he is a new creature.
14:33 old things are passed away,
14:35 behold, all things are come new."
14:38 That's beautiful and, you know,
14:40 what I have found over the years
14:41 because there's a lot of people,
14:43 as you both are expanding on that, prefer the world
14:46 and but we have a lot of loved ones,
14:48 that I would love for them
14:50 to experience what God has for them.
14:53 And so I've learned to pray for conviction and conversion.
14:57 And you can do that too, with your children,
14:59 with your spouse, with your...
15:01 And God allows the Holy Spirit
15:04 to continue to knock on their heart's door
15:06 and say, "Hey, come over here.
15:08 We've got something better for you."
15:10 Now we've looked at 'belief'
15:12 and we've looked at the 'Word of God.'
15:14 Let's find out what a 'disciple' is,
15:16 what is a disciple?
15:18 You think about disciple... Okay.
15:19 There's two text, I wanna throw in here
15:21 before we move on, if it's okay,
15:23 and then, maybe, get a comment...
15:24 I've got one too. You've got one too.
15:25 Let's throw these in because to me,
15:27 it's just so important.
15:28 You know, not how fast you move
15:29 but how much of this we're going to retain
15:31 because I find that there's people
15:34 who will be watching right now, they come to the point,
15:36 you mentioned, praying for our children,
15:38 praying for our grandchildren.
15:39 We've prayed for 20 years for them,
15:41 we see nothing is happening.
15:43 We get a little discouraged and then we stop and we said,
15:46 sometime we stop what?
15:47 One prayer, one prayer,
15:49 one more time we go to God in prayer,
15:51 it would change that child, that individual.
15:54 So let's not get discouraged with it
15:56 but notice that when you're talking about these words here,
15:58 Jesus said in John 12:48, He said,
16:01 "The word that I have spoken."
16:03 The passage that you read to begin with,
16:05 "The words that I have spoken,
16:06 the same shall judge him in the last day."
16:10 So it's very, very important about taking the word.
16:12 These words, He said, "Many believed on Him."
16:14 Jews believed on...
16:15 "If you continue in the word, you're my disciples."
16:17 He said, here notice these words are gonna come back,
16:21 what Jesus has spoken the same
16:22 should judge him in the last day.
16:23 And then John 8:47 says, "He that is of God."
16:26 So we're looking at say, "Are you of God?
16:29 Are you of God?"
16:30 You say, "Well, By the grace of God,
16:31 I'm one with Him."
16:33 Notice what it says,
16:34 "He that is of God, heareth God's words."
16:39 That means He gives audience to and He put...
16:42 Places Himself in a position
16:43 to where He can hear the Word of God,
16:46 "Faith cometh by hearing
16:47 and hearing by the Word of God,"
16:49 and that word really means 'two' in the Greek.
16:51 He understands, He that says...
16:54 Word of God.
16:56 He understands the word because the Holy Spirit inside
16:58 helping Him to understand the word.
16:59 Amen, amen.
17:01 And you want the word,
17:02 you want to know what the word teaches
17:04 because when you become, we talk about being born again,
17:07 when you do become a disciple of Christ,
17:10 you're presented a situation that you're not sure about,
17:14 you wanna dig into the word to find out what it says
17:17 because one way or the other,
17:19 we're gonna be judged by the word.
17:21 It's gonna come back. You've got another passage.
17:22 Well, this is in John 2 and it gives the...
17:27 It's in the amplified
17:28 and it gives the definition of what a disciple is.
17:32 I'm not gonna read the whole Scripture,
17:33 although we'll probably read it little later
17:35 because it ties in with something else
17:37 we're going to look at.
17:38 But it says, "And His disciples believed in Him."
17:41 And we can all say...
17:42 Are we disciples?
17:44 Why, we believe in Jesus but it takes it further.
17:46 It says, "Adhere to Him,
17:49 trusted in Him and relied on Him."
17:52 See again, being a disciple, it's not just mental assent.
17:57 It is a deep abiding relationship with Him.
18:00 Oh, yes. Just stay with it.
18:02 Stay with it. Stay with it. Amen.
18:04 I know there's been times that I've held onto Christ,
18:06 when it seemed like there was no one else
18:09 and I would have...
18:11 I can remember thinking
18:13 there would be no hope without Him.
18:16 But you got to know something about Him
18:18 to want to hold on to Him, that's beautiful.
18:22 You know, we're looking at big...
18:25 How to become a Christian?
18:30 Have any of you ever met someone
18:34 who in their latter years,
18:35 they've been in church for years and years,
18:38 they did all the do's and they didn't do the don'ts
18:41 and they finally,
18:44 had a revelation of making Jesus Christ,
18:47 the Lord of their life and they got born again...
18:51 And they didn't know...
18:52 But they didn't know, thy won't.
18:54 If you'd ask them,
18:56 they would have told you they were a Christian.
18:58 They could have taken a test and made a hundred
19:01 but they'd never had that heart change.
19:03 Ever run did anybody like that, Kenny?
19:06 I was one for several years, I should know.
19:08 So I think a good point would be,
19:13 how did you get born again?
19:15 What happens to you when you get born again?
19:17 Is that a good question? It is.
19:19 And I think that's covered up,
19:20 some of our lessons will go down
19:22 because the thing is once you say, 'Born Again,'
19:24 your life completely...
19:25 Changes. Turns around.
19:27 Bruce brought that,
19:28 "Old things are passed away, behold, all things become new."
19:30 There's a change that takes place
19:33 and I noticed in my own life.
19:35 I said this before, I think it's good
19:38 because people need to realize
19:40 that all of us go through tests and trials.
19:42 Yes.
19:43 We're not, they say, "Well, it's just...
19:45 Everything's just going fine, everything's going..."
19:47 There's things in our life,
19:48 that's brought us to the point to where we are at now.
19:50 Experiences that God has given us in His word.
19:53 Many of them, hard lessons learned,
19:55 that we've by the grace of God said,
19:57 "We're not going to go back that way,
19:59 by the grace of God."
20:00 Difficult lessons.
20:02 So I understand, you mentioned,
20:03 'born again' of to the point of,
20:06 I said, "Well, you know, for years
20:08 you could teach the young married class which I did.
20:11 You can be a deacon, then you become an elder,
20:13 you receive the little plaques, you know, it says,
20:16 you know, a good teacher does that all, this kind of
20:18 right here,
20:19 you can go all through all those things
20:21 but never be born again.
20:22 That's absolutely right.
20:24 And the scared thing for me and I won't take much time,
20:26 the scared thing, I didn't know it.
20:28 That's right. That's the lukewarmness of it.
20:31 Many people say, I'm a Christian.
20:32 I'm doing, you say, all these things right here.
20:35 I didn't know it.
20:37 That's how lukewarm you can get
20:38 because people pat you on the back,
20:40 you're doing this right,
20:42 seems this is right, the others...
20:43 You're going through the emotion,
20:45 the head knowledge but there was not
20:46 and I did not know it
20:48 until the Lord brought things to my heart and my mind
20:50 because I began to pray.
20:52 I need the right relationship with you.
20:54 Amen. Yeah.
20:55 Did I ever mention
20:56 that I was a second grade Sunday school teacher
20:58 when I met Jesus Christ, the Lord of my life?
21:00 No.
21:02 See, I was doing all the do's and I didn't do the don'ts
21:05 but I had never made Jesus the Lord of my life.
21:08 And that is a concern on my heart,
21:10 of all other people that are in the church is doing the do's
21:13 and not doing the don'ts and professing
21:17 but never having a heart change...
21:19 But were you, I'd be careful, that you weren't hypocrite?
21:23 No.
21:25 So here's a different people say,
21:26 "Well, you hypocrite, because now you're saying,
21:27 you did through all this and you didn't..."
21:29 I didn't know it
21:31 because I looked at the do's and the don'ts
21:33 and trying to accomplish that.
21:34 And I didn't understand until,
21:36 till Diane walked by my desk and said and told me,
21:39 "I got saved" and I said,
21:41 "Oh, you get saved every summer."
21:43 And she said, "No, you don't understand.
21:45 I made Jesus Christ, the Lord of my life,
21:47 I gave my life to Him.
21:49 I love the Lord and He's in my life now,
21:52 I'll serve Him"
21:53 and it was, like, "Oh, I've never done that."
21:56 I go to church, I teach Sunday school,
22:01 I don't curse and I don't swear and I don't run with wild men,
22:05 the only wild man I ever run with, I married,
22:08 you know, and so I thought I was, you know,
22:13 I thought I was doing the right thing
22:16 and I thought but have I not...
22:19 Had I gone to sleep, it would not have been in Jesus
22:22 and I would not have spent an eternity
22:24 in the presence of God.
22:25 It's not how good you are,
22:27 it's your relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ
22:29 who will bring you into,
22:31 conforming to his image and character.
22:34 I just heard the story.
22:36 Excuse me, I just heard the story this last weekend
22:39 of a man that was a pastor for 37 years and he said,
22:42 "I've just known the Lord in the last year."
22:45 He said, "After being a pastor for 37 years."
22:48 And people get...
22:51 I'm gonna be careful as you always say,
22:53 I'm gonna be careful.
22:54 People get caught up
22:56 and can get caught up with the do's and don't.
22:58 It's not that, that's not important
23:00 because our character, we're supposed to strive
23:03 to make our character like Christ.
23:05 Everyday we should be making headway with
23:08 but we're going to make mistakes.
23:10 We can't get there on our works.
23:13 We can't go to heaven on our works, we have to,
23:16 we're gonna make mistakes but we have to strive
23:19 but sometimes we get so caught up
23:21 in the do's and don'ts.
23:23 And I think, maybe, I even did that with my children.
23:25 Some what, because you wanna teach them
23:28 what you believe is right
23:29 but then it's so caught up, don't do this,
23:31 you can't do this, don't do, you know.
23:33 And so then you leave out
23:35 but you have to love Jesus first,
23:39 and you have to come to these things
23:40 somewhat on your own,
23:42 of what you feel convicted to do and to not,
23:44 you can't shove it down people's throat,
23:46 down your children's throats or anybody else.
23:48 It is important what we do
23:50 but that's not what's gonna get us to heaven.
23:52 That's right. Have a relationship.
23:54 Because, you know, Bruce, I, kind of, get...
23:56 I'm not confused about it.
23:58 Maybe, to this sense but still question comes,
24:00 "Okay, do this, right?"
24:01 We're talking about, we need to do this
24:03 because they're other people I know have these things
24:04 because I kind of felt like,
24:08 at least in my own life, we talked about...
24:12 You say an open hypocrite,
24:13 I wasn't trying to purposely do things wrong
24:15 but I was ignorant.
24:18 Even though they had knowledge,
24:20 ignored the scriptures and I think...
24:21 I thought I was doing the best I could do,
24:25 you know what I'm saying,
24:26 basically, it was self doing the things
24:29 but, you know, you wonder about the end results of their...
24:32 I didn't know to do any better, I hadn't had that experience
24:35 and I was, kind of, living up,
24:36 almost to the like that I had that,
24:38 maybe, I was taught, maybe, I didn't go far enough with it
24:40 but how does that work with other people.
24:42 If you happen to...
24:44 Be careful, die in the Lord, you know,
24:46 at that point in time but you are still lukewarm
24:51 but you don't know that you're lukewarm.
24:53 And you're striving to do the right thing,
24:54 I know if you continue on God,
24:56 he's not gonna leave you in a pitiful condition.
24:59 You know, we're just one stand with this maker.
25:03 First, the blade
25:05 and then the ear and then the whole core,
25:08 you know, I always call this a progressive revelation
25:11 and really, my life changed
25:14 once I started doing what we've been reading about,
25:16 once I started eating of the word.
25:18 Praying more and making a daily commitment
25:21 with my Lord and Savior.
25:23 Then my life changed and then I began to understand,
25:26 "Oh, what Lord really meant."
25:28 We say, Lord of our lives,
25:30 we've said that for years but what does it mean.
25:33 It means I'm gonna trust Him
25:35 even though I don't quite understand,
25:37 it means I'm gonna obey Him
25:39 even though I really am not sure
25:42 that that's the way to do it but he's my Lord.
25:44 He's leading, He's guiding me and He...
25:47 That's a big change because now,
25:49 I'm not doing it because of the do's and don'ts.
25:52 I'm doing it because I love and I trust Him.
25:55 There you go. Absolutely.
25:56 There's a real difference.
25:57 So, you know, the Bible also says,
25:59 "Thy way, O God, as to the sanctuary."
26:01 That's what we're talking about here,
26:03 when we're talking about the word,
26:04 when we're talking about believing,
26:06 when we're talking about prayer.
26:07 We're going through the sanctuary articles
26:10 and we're learning to love Jesus and we're...
26:13 Ain't it good that He is just so patient with us.
26:17 Praise God. He is so patient us.
26:20 The statement she made is not insignificant.
26:22 That was just the opposite, when you said,
26:25 we have to believe and we have to have faith,
26:29 even if we don't understand something
26:32 because there are things on this earth,
26:34 we will never understand
26:36 and many people have left the relationship with Jesus.
26:40 They've left their church because of bad things,
26:43 terrible things that have happened to them
26:45 and they say, "If God allowed this,
26:46 then how could He love us."
26:48 There are some things,
26:49 we will not understand here on this earth
26:52 and that is a tough thing to do,
26:55 to believe when you don't understand,
26:58 that's a tough thing.
26:59 That's when the faith kicks in.
27:01 That's not my thing, it takes your whole life to get there,
27:04 to keep striving to get there, is to say,
27:06 "No matter what, God, I'm gonna believe,
27:08 I'm gonna stay faithful, no matter what."
27:10 Amen. Just hold on.
27:11 So the experiences of life
27:12 really are the character builders, aren't they?
27:15 That's right.
27:16 The good and the bad 'cause everything...
27:18 Something's happened there, you say are bad
27:20 but as a end result, God has a way.
27:23 Folks know that and we know but we need to be reminded
27:25 because bad things are happening.
27:27 God will take those, if you're a child of God
27:30 and He will reverse that
27:31 and turn it right around to be the biggest blessing
27:34 you've ever had, if you let Him finish out.
27:36 Yes.
27:37 And not get discouraged, don't quit.
27:39 Don't blame the church, don't blame the people,
27:40 don't blame the...
27:42 Stay, and what we talked about in here,
27:43 we talked about just say it, just stay with it.
27:45 Stay with it.
27:46 Is the whole thing very simply put, stay with it,
27:48 don't give up 'cause He's coming soon.
27:50 You know, what you're talking about...
27:54 The faith, a lot of times we look at something
27:57 and we think about that,
27:58 "how could a loving God," like you said,
28:00 "allow that to happen."
28:01 We were just part of the evangelistic series
28:03 that went to London
28:05 and we toured the Tower of London
28:07 and a lot of good Christian people
28:09 lost their lives there.
28:10 Yes.
28:12 You know, were they not right with God?
28:15 See, God looks at things a little bit different.
28:18 We need to love Him unto death.
28:22 That's big.
28:23 But we can't do that unless we're studying everyday,
28:27 unless we have a tight connection to the vine.
28:30 We will never come to that point,
28:33 where not my will, just like Jesus prayed,
28:36 He didn't wanna go to the Cross
28:38 but He loved His Father so much.
28:40 He said, "Not my will but thine be done."
28:44 So you're there and I can see where some of these people were
28:48 at the Tower of London there, and I can just imagine
28:52 what might have been going through their mind
28:55 but it wasn't their will 'cause they wanted to live.
28:59 But they had to trust and the seed of the many people
29:03 that have gone before us, it produced more Christians.
29:06 Yes. So God sees the big picture.
29:09 We're looking through the glass darkly.
29:12 But He sees the big picture.
29:13 He's looking ahead where we're gonna spend eternity.
29:17 Amen, Bruce, he had something's gonna add.
29:19 I think you have a passage here.
29:20 I'm interested in. Yes.
29:22 Well, I just thought this was interesting,
29:26 the true sign of a discipleship.
29:29 If you go to 1 John 5: 3 and 2:4
29:34 and I know we've read this many times
29:36 but it's still binding, "This is the love of God,
29:41 that we keep His commandments.
29:43 He that sayeth, I know Him
29:45 and keepeth not His commandments is a liar
29:48 and the truth is not in Him."
29:50 That's heavy.
29:51 That's pretty heavy
29:52 but and I know we've read it many times
29:54 but it's still binding today.
29:56 Amen. It sure it is.
29:57 Thank you. That's solid. Absolutely.
29:59 Yes, it is.
30:00 And that, kind of, separates the wheat
30:01 from the chaff many times, you know,
30:03 'cause a lot of people say, "Well, I love the Lord.
30:05 I'm following Him. He's the Lord of my life."
30:08 But then when they begin to study the word,
30:10 they're not willing to go where the shepherd's leading,
30:13 so that can be a real test.
30:15 So the past, it still comes back,
30:16 "He that is of God hearth God's word."
30:21 And then the thought and the principle is,
30:23 they're willing to do those things
30:24 that he makes clear to them.
30:26 It brings joy to their heart,
30:27 brings joy to everybody's heart,
30:29 I love being around somebody who's on fire, for Jesus.
30:30 Amen, yes.
30:32 May I like, when they come here and start talking about Jesus,
30:33 I'm thinking, this is good.
30:35 God, let her talk about Jesus than the weather.
30:37 You'll talk about Jesus rather than work, right?
30:39 Even than the puppies
30:40 and all the other things that go on.
30:42 We'd like to talk about...
30:44 If you get together and you sit down
30:46 and you talk for 10, 15...
30:48 And Jesus is not in the conversation,
30:50 we went the wrong direction as far as I'm concerned.
30:52 Somehow, He needs to be there always
30:55 because He's supposed to be in us
30:56 and it should be just coming out,
30:58 not trying to force somebody, not trying to force it on,
31:01 not trying to make somebody do anything,
31:03 it's just comes out.
31:05 You can't help it because He's living within,
31:07 so I think that's how to become a Christian,
31:10 we're talking about here, yeah.
31:11 And mentioning the puppies makes me think of this,
31:14 no matter what we do or what our job is,
31:18 we can use that to witness.
31:20 Amen.
31:21 Even puppies, we can use that to witness.
31:23 We can, I had an instance where it helped a little girl
31:27 that had a severe O.C.D. problem.
31:29 And the mom cried later,
31:32 after she got the puppy and said,
31:33 how it overcame, you know,
31:35 the problem with the little girl
31:37 and she had improved but, I mean,
31:38 someone told me and it was this lady's grandma
31:42 or this little girl's grandma.
31:43 She said, "This is a ministry for you,
31:47 it can be a ministry for you."
31:49 I never ever thought of it that way.
31:51 Now I think about that, when people come.
31:54 If there's something I can inject
31:56 and I don't want to offend people
31:57 or make people feel like I'm being critical
32:00 but if there's something I can inject,
32:02 when I meet these people that come to look at puppies.
32:04 I try to do it.
32:06 We can do that in all capacity of life,
32:08 we can always inject something
32:10 Where people can walk away and say,
32:12 "Well, they're Christians.
32:13 I know they're Christians." Amen.
32:15 Sometimes, it's just loving, just loving the people.
32:17 That's right. That's right.
32:19 You know, and I'm one that I prayed to be a blessing.
32:22 I prayed for an open door
32:24 because I think probably the quickest way
32:28 to close a door is to force it out.
32:32 And try to push it on somebody because you think they know it.
32:35 So I'm always saying, "Lord, open the door."
32:38 And when you pray for that door to be opened,
32:40 many times they begin to ask you
32:43 and then the Holy Spirit's able to bring it out.
32:46 We find this some time and go open for discussion,
32:49 you just talked about puppies
32:50 and you can talk about your work
32:52 and your work and our work but many times,
32:54 we'll go somewhere or something the other...
32:56 People ask, "What's your name?"
32:58 And I'll say, "I'm Kenny Shelton,"
33:00 you know, and sometimes she'll say to me,
33:02 "Honey, you should say Pastor Kenny, so they know."
33:04 I said, "I don't wanna put them
33:06 in any kind of an awkward position
33:08 to where they might feel, I mean, pull a shade down."
33:12 I'd be careful what I say,
33:13 I want them to be their self in a sense,
33:15 if they're too loud,
33:17 we can talk to them about, hey, you know
33:18 but I don't want them to be,
33:19 and open up and just and just talk.
33:22 That's what we are. We're human beings.
33:23 Then you can get, have a feel
33:25 of where they're at in their relationship with Christ
33:27 because I don't know about you but when I was growing up
33:30 and somebody came along and said,
33:31 "He's just pastor so and so," I went like this...
33:34 You put on your, your other face.
33:35 Yeah, I was afraid to say anything
33:37 because it may be wrong
33:38 or I'm going the wrong direction.
33:40 I didn't know when you're just so,
33:41 I, kind of, like it just opened and I realized there's times,
33:43 maybe, it's good to make good introductions or whatever
33:47 but there's times that we're just,
33:48 we're open and
33:50 because we're looking for an opportunity
33:52 to present Jesus...
33:53 And sometimes it's intimidating,
33:55 you know, when you say, "I'm pastor so and so,"
33:57 that intimidates people sometimes..
33:58 Well, I've heard a lot of times people go in, you know,
34:00 business and lumberyards and different things
34:02 and they go in 'cause they...
34:04 Watch me here, they go in with a idea
34:07 because they're a pastor,
34:08 they're supposed to get 20 percent discount
34:10 and, you know what?
34:12 I just, I'm gonna use the word 'hate'
34:13 because I think in Bible's love list.
34:15 I just hate to hear that.
34:16 I do not like to hear that, it doesn't matter, you know,
34:19 "He that is great supposed to be the least."
34:22 You know, it's supposed to be the least.
34:23 So we don't go in, "Well, I'm pastor so and so.
34:26 Now will you give a discount."
34:28 No, if you were in my store I'm saying,
34:29 I wanna raise it up a little bit...
34:32 That'll be quite...
34:33 Since I'm here, and since you're talking about me,
34:36 see, I was saying that for the other side of the coin
34:39 because a lot of times people,
34:41 if they realize that you're in ministry,
34:44 then they might open their heart up to you.
34:46 You're absolutely right there.
34:48 Yes, and they have questions, so there's still...
34:51 Oh, yeah, I don't think they're right and wrong,
34:52 I think it's a matter of just a feeling laid out there
34:55 because you're wanting, I want to know,
34:57 you want to know, do they know Jesus.
34:59 Right.
35:01 Every person I ever see, I wonder if they, you know,
35:03 I'm talking to several guys this week
35:06 and I could tell where they're working...
35:10 Be careful with this one here, I might be real,
35:12 the music that was coming out of that little box
35:15 where they're working outside.
35:17 I realized their ears were not in harmony
35:19 maybe, with heaven.
35:21 They, maybe, didn't know that doing the best they could
35:23 but I knew right then and there,
35:26 that they probably were not because it was an acid rock.
35:30 My ears just can't, I can't stand,
35:32 my whole system goes out of whack.
35:33 Maybe, some of you like that at home
35:35 but it really does and then, you know, later they come by
35:39 and they were doing some things,
35:40 you know, and I had an off day.
35:41 They said, "Well, what do you...
35:43 We notice you don't, you know, you don't say,
35:46 you don't" and I got a chance to witness about smoking,
35:50 about language, about music
35:53 and then without condemning them at all.
35:55 So I'd like to hear things that elevate
35:57 and make my mind clear
35:58 and, you know, and, you know, when they left.
36:01 I was with them for like three days,
36:03 when they left, all three just, it has to be Jesus.
36:06 Hey, me, I'm not that... it has to be Jesus...
36:09 All three workmen came by and they came up to me
36:12 and they shook their hand.
36:14 They said, you know how?
36:16 How nice it is to work with someone
36:19 that's, it's just like, maybe, reasonable.
36:23 They couldn't use the word like reasonable,
36:25 that you could talk with us
36:27 and fit in and we felt so at ease.
36:32 I don't know if that's good about,
36:34 that we felt so at ease,
36:35 that if we want to say something,
36:37 we could do it and we wanna thank you for that.
36:40 I thought, "Thank you, Lord, for that opportunity."
36:42 So that's my story. I'm sticking to it.
36:45 You made them not feel intimidated.
36:46 I didn't want them to, because you can't reach anybody
36:49 when you try and some, they're intimidated.
36:51 They couldn't reach me
36:52 when they tried to force me to do something,
36:54 my mind goes up, I'm done.
36:56 My-sister-in-law, Chris, here
36:58 had a wonderful idea when I started selling puppies.
37:01 She said, I have a puppy folder,
37:03 that I give to the buyer, she said,
37:05 "Why don't you put a steps to Christ in that?"
37:07 But like you, I try to get a feel first.
37:10 I don't want to offend or make somebody mad.
37:13 So after meeting people, talking to them,
37:16 then I ask the Lord to help me to know
37:18 which ones that I should slip that in and, maybe,
37:20 which ones that it would, you know, infuriate,
37:22 not help at all.
37:24 So, I mean, those are things
37:25 we just have to rely on the Lord,
37:27 to give us that feel of people.
37:28 You know, Bruce, you find this in light.
37:30 It's not so much.
37:31 Would give him a scripture and give him a Bible study.
37:33 I can remember years ago, church over there
37:37 just in the beginning in 3ABN, that was, kind of,
37:39 the church at that point in time.
37:42 Of course, did somebody mow the lawn
37:45 while I was a pastor but I mowed the lawn.
37:47 You know, that time didn't have the riding mower,
37:48 so push more had big... so on and so forth.
37:51 This is good for all of us, we need to, you know,
37:53 what Holy Spirit can do is working
37:55 and so, you know, I'm down
37:56 in this big old ditch and going on.
37:58 You can't hardly stand, your feet go underneath
37:59 lawn mower, you know.
38:00 I'm fighting all and doing all this
38:02 and pretty soon, you know, I did it week end, week on.
38:04 Pretty soon the neighbor across the street came over,
38:06 said, "You know, we noticed
38:08 that you do a good job mowing the lawn.
38:11 And now, would you be willing to mow my lawn for me",
38:15 because I'm on the business evidently
38:17 and I said, "Do you need help with it?"
38:20 They said, "Well, yeah, since you do this, you know, this..."
38:23 I never said, "No, I'm the pastor of the church."
38:24 I said, "Well, sure, I'll be glad to help you."
38:27 So I started mowing that one and mowing that one
38:29 and then the ones behind us, they come in, they said,
38:31 "I know you're mowing this one over here,
38:33 so it must be your business, so you do."
38:35 And I say, "Well, it's part of my business.
38:36 It is."
38:38 Well, ours is indeed is one big real city,
38:39 you know, living
38:41 but can you mow this here.
38:42 So I was mowing all kind of houses around
38:44 then we got to next block.
38:45 I couldn't do.
38:46 I told I can't do all and he came by
38:48 and I was mowing another guy down.
38:49 None of them ever knew
38:52 that I was the pastor until finally,
38:54 they started asking, this is after the whole summer,
38:57 they said, "This is what you do for a living."
38:59 You know what?
39:00 Because I would never take a dime.
39:03 I said, "You need help. I'm glad to be able to do."
39:05 Little younger then, you know,
39:07 I'll be glad to do that, they said, "This is...
39:10 Do you make a living mowing lawns?"
39:12 No, I don't. "What do you do?"
39:14 So I'm pastoring right there at that church.
39:17 "You got to be kidding."
39:18 Anyway, the opportunities to witness,
39:20 the opportunity was there, you could have maybe...
39:23 I could probably could get out and hold of them and say,
39:25 "I'm the pastor there.
39:27 I don't do this" And not saying this wrong do that
39:29 but may I felt that they needed help
39:31 and so it was a good opportunity
39:33 to be able to witness.
39:34 He finally want to come over and visit,
39:35 you know, doing different things.
39:37 It was a good opportunity to be a disciple.
39:39 At least I just wanted, I'm a Christian.
39:41 We are to love people, we're to help people.
39:43 Many times, helping people
39:45 is starting where they need the help the most
39:48 and, you know, what a need opportunity says hopefully,
39:50 it opened some doors...
39:52 Now, we're doing, Brother Bruce, we're doing good
39:53 we're on the first one still yet.
39:55 Mollie, we're in trouble.
39:57 I think that most people appreciate the fact that,
40:01 they know that you care.
40:03 That's the point, that's the point.
40:05 That's the whole point. Willing to help.
40:06 And they're willing to listen.
40:08 Amen. Really if we don't care.
40:12 You know, if you met somebody,
40:14 even you were not a Christian.
40:16 And they were rough and sharp with their tongue
40:19 and they didn't care, they didn't help either.
40:21 You didn't feel the love, I mean,
40:23 there's been people that I've talked to,
40:25 that profess to be Christians
40:26 and they're just, kind of, looking everywhere
40:30 but at you when you're talking to them.
40:31 It's like, well, you just really don't matter.
40:34 You know, would you want to be a Christian
40:36 if that was the only example that you've seen?
40:39 You know, what Pastor Kenny did
40:41 was he gave them the Jesus example
40:43 because what did Jesus do?
40:45 First and foremost, He got involved in their lives.
40:48 Secondly, He ministered to their needs
40:52 and then, after He gained their confidence,
40:56 He presented...
40:57 And they trusted Him,
40:58 then He could invite them to salvation,
41:02 tell them about what it means to be a Christian or whatever.
41:08 But first and foremost,
41:09 you have to gain people's confidence
41:11 and I'm gonna use it right
41:12 saying, that'd be a true saying,
41:15 people don't care how much you know
41:17 until they know how much you care.
41:20 So first and foremost,
41:22 you were ministering to their needs.
41:25 Then they gained confidence in you,
41:26 then you tell them about the Lord Jesus Christ.
41:29 One act of kindness can do way more than preach
41:33 and, you know, sometimes,
41:34 just want to act of kindness can bring somebody around
41:36 and start to ask, why that you did,
41:39 what you did.
41:41 And find that you're a Christian
41:43 and then you could start from there.
41:44 But where does all this love come from?
41:47 Oh, okay. God.
41:49 It comes from God
41:51 but it doesn't just happen overnight
41:52 'cause the many of us,
41:54 we didn't have that kind of love toward each other,
41:56 toward other people growing up,
41:59 so it came from God and from Him,
42:02 in dwelling in our hearts and He begins to change us
42:06 and mould us and that's what part of that,
42:08 being that disciple is, shall we try another?
42:11 Absolutely. Praise the Lord.
42:12 Shall we find out what a disciple truly is?
42:15 You gave us a definition of what a disciple does?
42:18 Let's look at Acts 11:26.
42:22 And how about you there, brother Bruce,
42:23 would you read that for us?
42:25 Acts 11:26, "And when he had found him,
42:30 he brought him into Antioch.
42:31 It came to pass that a whole year,
42:34 they assembled themselves with the church
42:36 and taught much people
42:37 and the disciples were called Christians
42:39 first, and adding on."
42:41 There you go. They taught people.
42:46 They believed, they continued in the word.
42:48 Good.
42:50 And they became a disciple, which is a Christian.
42:53 Amen. It's beautiful.
42:56 And, you know, there are any of,
42:57 but to begin with, I mean,
43:00 there was a Greek and Jews there in abundance.
43:04 It was interesting when Paul went to these places
43:07 and we find it difficult,
43:09 I'm not sure how you handle it with today,
43:13 all of the stuff that's going on
43:14 but I think it's a good principle
43:16 that somehow we need to look at it
43:17 or find something...
43:19 When Paul went and he began to minister
43:22 and there was interest.
43:23 He stated you notice in here, he stayed for a year,
43:27 many other places, he stayed for a year and a half and more
43:30 because he was tying
43:31 and wrapping up the work the way it should be
43:33 rather than get some folks there, which is good.
43:36 When you're working with churches and you can go
43:38 and you can hold meetings like we've been doing, you know,
43:40 and then you have other people there,
43:41 to continue to tie it up and continue to train
43:44 and to teach them, that's beautiful.
43:46 So many times,
43:48 if a person goes in there and hold meetings
43:49 and then they leave and there's no one there
43:51 to take care of those precious people,
43:53 that we're looking.
43:54 I think work education says on there,
43:56 that many golden opportunities and privilege
43:58 and even souls are lost
44:01 because we didn't stay long enough
44:03 or there wasn't someone else to go ahead.
44:06 All of us working together, each one doing our part
44:08 and I thought how wonderful that is to think about it.
44:12 In fact, any...
44:13 I think in the Roman rule, later it's named Cassyria,
44:16 I think it was Cassyria,
44:18 so there was a change that took place,
44:19 but the Gospel never changes
44:22 and I think the principle on which it was taught
44:24 and things that transpired.
44:26 I can learn from that, I need to be reading that,
44:29 I need to, you know,
44:30 the book 'evangelism' is go over.
44:32 I've read many times and I still go over
44:35 and I still underline what's not been underlined
44:37 and I'm thinking why?
44:38 How could I have missed this? How could I have missed this?
44:40 It's good but it always comes back.
44:42 It's me, self-denial, no matter what the line says,
44:46 self-denial, self-denial, self-denial.
44:50 That's what it is and so winning.
44:51 We have to love souls more than we love the ease
44:54 and, you know, we wanna sit down
44:56 and let somebody else do it so, I think in here,
44:59 when you're looking at this disciple called Christians,
45:03 is because when we...
45:05 Christians, I would say, what is Christian?
45:07 What does it really mean?
45:08 Does it mean to be Christ like or doesn't it?
45:09 Well, it means to be Christ like
45:11 and that's how we find how He worked with the people,
45:14 how He loved and we look at His characteristics
45:17 and see how He was, is how we are to become,
45:21 so we can't become like Him unless we're beholding Him.
45:25 And so that's where we learn to love
45:27 and I can remember as a young Christian
45:30 and, maybe, there's ladies here,
45:31 maybe, you can empathize with me but, you know,
45:34 we go through a lot of changes during the month
45:37 and I can remember saying, "Lord, you didn't say
45:40 that I was only to be a Christian when I felt good."
45:44 Because there's times, you don't feel good.
45:47 And you're, you know, especially, when you're young
45:49 and you're wanting to be a disciple,
45:51 you're wanting to be Christ like
45:52 but it just isn't there.
45:55 So I can remember pleading with Him, saying, you know,
45:57 how am I to be loving and kind, how am I to be sweet,
46:01 when I don't feel good.
46:03 I mean, you know, you don't have the patience,
46:05 the kindness and the empathy that just comes naturally.
46:09 And so that was a lot of prayer but the good thing is,
46:13 we can pray about anything and everything
46:15 and we can ask God for His love,
46:18 we can ask Him for his empathy.
46:20 We can ask Him for His patience and put self aside...
46:24 Well I think, Kenny will agree with me
46:26 that I didn't realize, I know he didn't until we got older.
46:31 But our dad was disabled with a heart attack at 35,
46:34 in massive heart attack and back then,
46:36 there was nothing to be done, you know,
46:38 and he was in constant pain,
46:41 he couldn't do the things he enjoyed,
46:43 the simplest things and yet he made people happy,
46:47 all of the time and as I matured and grew up,
46:51 I look back at that and I think, "How did he do?
46:53 How did he put on that good face?
46:55 How did he make people smile at church and laugh and joke
46:59 and make people feel good about themselves,
47:01 when he was in so much pain?
47:03 And could do, I mean, nothing.
47:05 If you can do nothing that you enjoy
47:08 and that's where he was at,
47:10 nothing that was fun to him, he could do.
47:12 And yet he had enough of the love of God in him.
47:16 To share, to make people laugh, to make people feel good,
47:19 I'm afraid I would fall short.
47:22 If I was in his position, I'm afraid I'll fall short.
47:24 Those days, you know, that he couldn't walk
47:26 actually across the road.
47:28 Yes.
47:29 It wasn't there or walk the street, 50 feet.
47:32 He couldn't go across the road,
47:35 he's had to lay down and take,
47:36 they call, nitroglycerin tablets
47:37 under your tongue, I mean, years ago.
47:39 No bypass, no harsh and nothing like that.
47:41 So it was, it was so I guess, could have been so discouraging
47:47 especially, when your doctor, I won't mention who it is
47:49 and he's passed away since, but at that point of time,
47:52 he said, "Tommy, you know, your heart is so bad.
47:55 You're never gonna get well, there's nothing we can do,
47:57 at least half of it is permanently damage."
48:00 And he said this, he said,
48:01 "You're really not too good to anybody."
48:04 See, that was...
48:05 Oh, what a cruel thing,
48:07 you're not really any good to anybody.
48:08 Says, you know, I just recommend,
48:10 want you to go out and try to get your little job,
48:11 maybe, at the gas station.
48:13 He said, "You'll last a day or two
48:14 but you'll fall over dead."
48:15 Oh, my.
48:17 And, you know, dad came out and said, "You know,
48:18 can you imagine saying that, he said, but you know what?
48:21 I have a family.
48:22 I have children, I want to live as long as I can
48:24 and, you know, I'll try to make people happy."
48:26 He grew because the grace of Christ,
48:29 above those remarks
48:32 and he realizes other things going on
48:35 and when he had a decent day
48:36 that he could make someone happy.
48:38 That's what he wanted to do and bring joy to the hearts,
48:40 that's very interesting.
48:42 We have to learn to do that.
48:44 Not necessarily how we feel but based upon God's Word
48:47 is how we conduct our self because, some of us,
48:50 we acted the way we felt, sometime, "Lord, have mercy.
48:54 Maybe, I'm the only one that's..."
48:56 No. No, the Spirit of Prophesy.
48:57 You talk about that and not just your physical feeling
49:01 but your spiritual feeling,
49:02 there will be times that we don't feel it.
49:05 There will be times that we don't have the love
49:07 that we have at other times,
49:09 we go ahead and you do the actions.
49:11 Amen.
49:13 Because then it will come, it will come around
49:14 and you will regain that spiritual quality
49:17 and that love that you had.
49:19 You go ahead and you do the actions,
49:21 even if you will feel it.
49:22 Yeah, act on principle but I think acting on principle
49:26 and pray, pray, pray, you know, because God has love, I mean,
49:32 we're talking here, we're actually getting into
49:35 what it is like to be a Christian
49:37 and what Christianity is all about.
49:39 But it's emptying so and letting Jesus come in.
49:43 And as you guys were talking about your dad,
49:45 I'm thinking about this young lady
49:46 that came to our meetings in London.
49:49 She has terminal cancer, she was just full of it.
49:54 They had actually misdiagnosed her,
49:56 they had given her diagnosis that's someone else's.
49:58 Someone else thought they had cancer
50:01 and they were getting treated where here she had it
50:04 and she wasn't getting treated.
50:06 And she, I mean, she would leave our meetings
50:09 and just end up in the hospital,
50:11 out on the streets throwing up
50:13 but she would come in with a smile,
50:14 she wanted to be
50:16 where the Spirit of God was
50:19 and she was always loving, always kind,
50:22 always had a smile and see that's our Savior,
50:25 as we look at our Savior,
50:29 He's just been beaten.
50:31 He's had a crown of thorns put on His head.
50:33 He's had His hair pulled out and He's laid out on a cross
50:38 and they're about to nail His hands
50:40 and He says, "Father, forgive them."
50:44 He's not even thinking,
50:45 "Oh, God, help me with the pain.
50:47 I need help with the pain."
50:49 He says, "Father, forgive them
50:53 for they know not what they do."
50:54 When you're filled with the Spirit...
50:55 That's selfless.
50:57 The Holy Spirit,
50:58 wasn't that Stephen, when he was stoned.
51:00 laying out this up against them or you're getting hit with
51:03 big old rocks and stone, you know,
51:05 but God gives you a vision, you know, could see Heaven,
51:08 see the glory of God.
51:09 It takes over.
51:11 The Spirit takes over, if that should come to you
51:14 or to me if God sees fit.
51:17 Never, never be afraid
51:19 of what the world may throw at you because,
51:21 I know that the Spirit of the living God will be there,
51:24 if He calls you to do that,
51:26 He will be with you
51:27 and will be like some of the ones
51:29 who were being burnt
51:30 and they were singing praises and so on.
51:32 I truly experience that,
51:34 one time I was in terrible, terrible pain.
51:39 It was called childbirth...
51:41 Well, I'm not there.
51:42 And for hours 'cause it was going on much longer
51:45 than it was supposed to and I was constantly...
51:48 They were teaching you to focus on a little dot in the room
51:51 but I didn't, I would close my eyes
51:52 and I would see Jesus
51:55 and I would sing hymns in my mind
51:58 and about 18 hour later, 18 and a half hours later,
52:03 I remember saying,
52:06 "Christ, I can't see you anymore.
52:07 I can't focus, the pain is so great.
52:10 I can't sing anymore."
52:13 And at that moment when I prayed that prayer,
52:16 my mother was sitting next to me
52:18 and she began to sing,
52:21 that moment and I fell asleep.
52:25 I fell asleep for ten minutes.
52:27 I woke up, I said, "The baby's here."
52:29 They're like, "Oh, no, honey,
52:30 you're just now getting into your worst labor."
52:32 I said, "No, she's coming."
52:34 And she was, see,
52:36 when I couldn't take it anymore.
52:38 He taught me, that when I couldn't take the pain
52:41 because of my relationship and my focus on Him,
52:45 He was there to take it.
52:46 Amen. Praise God.
52:48 And I think that's to me, that's how people were...
52:53 On the, the martyrs, sacred tree
52:56 or whatever it was and they were being burned
52:57 and they were singing,
52:59 is because the Holy Spirit, Stephen,
53:01 the Holy Spirit came down
53:02 and He takes that when we can't take it anymore.
53:05 You can't lose by accepting Jesus into your heart,
53:10 you cannot lose by asking Him to come in and be your Lord,
53:14 to be your Savior, to be anything and everything,
53:19 our hope in this world.
53:21 There's no loss in it.
53:22 No, absolutely. Best thing we can do.
53:24 Will anybody object if I take the next
53:28 because I have something that keeps going in my mind...
53:30 Okay.
53:32 Because we titled it, one of the first steps
53:34 in becoming a Christian, is to believe in God,
53:40 believe in God
53:42 not believe in a "Higher Power."
53:44 There you go, yes.
53:46 A higher power that could be anything under the sun
53:51 and is, to some people.
53:53 This says, we have to believe in God
53:56 and it says it singularly not plural.
53:59 So does that mean there is only one God,
54:02 it doesn't say believe in gods.
54:04 That's right, that's right.
54:06 And they said, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ,
54:09 and thou shalt be saved and thy house,
54:12 and they spake unto Him,
54:13 the word of the Lord
54:15 and to all that were in his house."
54:17 Amen. That's powerful...
54:21 Can I expand the...
54:23 From the amplified. Yeah, please.
54:24 Oh, yes. Please.
54:25 Big end to this amplified, I've got it, verse 31.
54:28 Let me just read it.
54:30 "And they answered, believe in
54:32 and on the Lord Jesus Christ, that He is"
54:35 and here's the part that amplifies,
54:38 "Give yourself to Him,
54:40 take yourself out of your own keeping
54:42 and entrust yourself into His keeping.
54:45 And you will be saved
54:47 and this applies both to you and your household this way."
54:51 Oh, I love it.
54:52 Give yourself to Him,
54:54 totally release yourself to Him,
54:56 praise God.
54:57 Amen. That's what it's all about.
54:59 And what the Amplified does for me,
55:01 is it keeps it from being superficial,
55:04 it makes it a deep personal relationship.
55:07 I agree with it.
55:09 I mean, just two illustrations when you think about.
55:12 That was Paul, you know, in prison.
55:16 He had Felix, presented Christ and so to him and he just,
55:20 what he said,
55:21 "Come back another day when it's more convenient."
55:24 And then he spoke to the jailer,
55:26 when he found out, you know, that they were still all there,
55:29 all the people in the jail were there because of,
55:32 as it were one man in there because of what they heard,
55:34 so anyway, then the other jailer come back and said,
55:37 "Oo, glory, was this, you know,"
55:39 What I hear is beautiful and then went to the house
55:43 and it's pretty clear that Paul then spoke to the whole family.
55:46 He had an opportunity through the jailer
55:48 to go speak words of truth to the whole family.
55:50 Whole family said, this is beautiful,
55:52 we wanted to,
55:53 and so he baptized them all.
55:55 So how wonderful that is when we see, you know,
55:57 this passage is just like this.
56:00 How God can work and it wasn't just the jailer,
56:04 one of them was open and receptive.
56:06 The other closed the door and said,
56:08 "No, at more convenient time,"
56:09 that's what most people are doing in the world today.
56:11 Yes.
56:12 Find another convenient time, I'll wait till I retire,
56:14 I'll wait till everything, my ducks rolling
56:15 or, you know,da-da-da,
56:18 you know, you may never come to Him.
56:19 In my life, like Tammy said too
56:21 because there are spirits working in this world.
56:24 There's a Spirit of God
56:25 and there's the spirit of the enemy
56:27 and many people are being deceived
56:30 thinking that they're on the right track,
56:32 thinking that they're a disciple of Christ.
56:34 But they're being deceived by the wrong spirit,
56:36 so we have to go back to the Word,
56:38 continue in the Word,
56:40 eating that Word to know what truth is.
56:43 So... So how to become a Christian?
56:44 Worship Him in Spirit and in truth.
56:47 Trust God. Yes.
56:48 You don't have to do anything, He's done it all,
56:51 keep that in your mind.
56:52 He's done it all.
56:53 All you have to do is accept Him.
56:55 Amen.
56:56 Isn't that beautiful and I like to say,
56:58 stay with it.
56:59 I'm not going to get away from that one,
57:01 "Stay with it."
57:02 Because you have, He said, "If you abide in me,"
57:04 that means you stay with it
57:06 and that means a lose connection,
57:07 that means it's... You're tied in.
57:09 We've just got 23 seconds left.
57:11 Can you just give everybody a quick prayer?
57:13 Absolutely. Let's pray and pray at home.
57:15 Bow your heads with me, "Father in heaven,
57:17 thank you for your love.
57:18 Thank you for your Holy Spirit.
57:19 Thank you for this time we spent together,
57:21 we give you praise, honor and glory for decisions
57:23 that are made now,
57:24 that there's somebody out there wants to become a Christian,
57:26 we thank you in Jesus name.
57:28 Amen. Amen.
57:30 God bless you and we'll see you next time.


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