I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Removing pain
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Lord, let my words
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Heal a heart that hurts
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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I want to spend my life
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Mending broken people
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Hello, and welcome to
3ABN's family worship,
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and happy Sabbath.
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I m Chris Shelton
along with my husband
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Pastor Kenny Shelton
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and we have some of
your most favorite I am sure,
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family members of the 3ABN
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that are gonna be worshipping
with all of us tonight.
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I am so excited.
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Yeah, they are
some of our favorite,
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they are some of our favorite.
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Oh, absolutely, absolutely.
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You know what years ago,
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this is my brother, my
own flesh and blood brother,
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he finally immediate
he is little bit jealous
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because I get so
close to my Church family.
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But you know when you're
in this Spirit of the Lord,
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there's just a bond there.
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And you can't help but love.
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Sometimes we share
things with one another
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that we can't share
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with our own
biological you know family.
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So it's always good.
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But over to my
right is pastor CA Murray.
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CA Murray, and I don't
know all of his accolade,
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and I don't even have
time to list all of them
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everything that he's done..
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Just a very short sentence.
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He loves Jesus.
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That's the most important
thing is that he loves Jesus.
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And then to my left
is a wonderful sister,
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Sister Jill Morikone,
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and station's general
manager is to her left,
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so we all have
to behave ourselves
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because Sister
Mollie Steenson is here.
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And with her
distinguished manner
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she will let us know
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if we get out of
line, I'm so sure.
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I am not the
boss, I am just bossy,
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I don't have that all the time.
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I tell you what, if we
all had bossy bosses like you
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we would all think
we're already in heaven,
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so that's a beautiful thing.
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She has been a blessing
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and she's is a
tremendous miracle.
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I just have to say it
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because God has just
worked miracles in her life
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and she's still here with us.
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And I am sure you
told this many times.
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Many times.
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How wonderful our
savior is to keep her here.
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Amen.
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You know as a
erring human beings
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we're all walking that walk,
that process of sanctification.
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And often we
have noble aspirations
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that we're gonna walk
the walk of a Christian,
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we're gonna talk
the talk of a Christian.
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And our today's
topic is What Fruit?
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What fruit are we really
sharing with other people
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when we're
walking, we we're talking?
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I want to share
just a little sentence
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from Conflicting Encourage,
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page, well, page
10, and it's verse 3.
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It says, "No truth does
the Bible more clearly teach
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than what we do is
the result of what we are.
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To a great degree,
the experiences of life
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is the fruition of our
own thoughts and deeds."
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So we're gonna
kind of get into that
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and see how that deals
with the fruit of the spirit.
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And you know, Jesus, he
wants us to come as we are.
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He wants us to come.
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And in this world
when we come as we are,
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Sister Molly,
Sister Jill, Brother CA,
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my husband Pastor Kenny,
we gather so much baggage.
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Yes, we do.
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You know, I think
the pilgrim's progress,
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when he can barely walk,
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he's got all this
things that he's carrying.
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Yes.
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And often people think,
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well, I can't come to the Lord
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until I get rid of this baggage.
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So we're gonna talk
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a little bit
about all these things.
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But I praise God, Jesus says,
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you know, he wants
us to come as we are.
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And I, we're gonna start up
by singing a couple of songs.
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Yes.
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And on the piano we
have Sister Marilyn Hawk,
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and she's gonna
be playing for us.
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And the first song that
we're gonna sing is that,
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I've Got A River Of Life.
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So I want to hear you
sing really loud at home,
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you need to drown yourself.
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I've Got A River Of Life.
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I've got a river of life
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Flowing out of me
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Makes the lame to
walk, and the blind to see
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Opens prison doors,
sets the captives free
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I've got a river of
life flowing out of me
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Spring up, O
well, within my soul
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Spring up, O well,
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And make me whole
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Spring up, O well,
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And give to me
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That life abundantly
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One more time
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I've got a river of
life flowing out of me!
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Makes the lame to
walk, and the blind to see.
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Opens prison doors,
sets the captives free!
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I've got a river of
life flowing out of me!
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Spring up, O well,
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Within my soul!
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Spring up, O well,
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And make me whole!
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Spring up, O well,
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And give to me.
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That life abundantly
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Praise the Lord.
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That river of life flowing,
it should be flowing out of us.
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Our cups need to be so
filled with all these spirit,
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that when we meet
people, when we are at Walmart,
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wherever we night be
that it's just flowing out.
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You know, we were at the lake,
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you mentioned,
we were at the lake,
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and is it Jacob?
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I think it was
Jacob, is that Peter's son,
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Jacob in My Sin...
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Caleb. Caleb.
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And it was so sweet.
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We were under a shelter,
and another family came up
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and they have a lot
of stuff in their van.
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And he's just a
young, what, 16 years old,
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I think now.
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And Caleb spoke up in the man
would just bringing some stuff,
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and said, "May I help you?"
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I mean, how often do you hear
a teenager asking a stranger,
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"May I help you?"
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And the man let him helped him.
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But that's
flowing out of us. Amen.
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This next song
that we're gonna sing
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is Blessings Are Refreshing.
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And Sister Marilyn,
that is on the piano
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also is the author of this song.
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We have taken it all
over the world, haven't we?
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Yes.
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It's been in Africa's,
in Salvador, Philippines.
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I know it's been
translated into other languages
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and we just had the request
to take it back to Arizona.
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So we're
looking forward to that.
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BLESSINGS ARE REFRESHING.
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Amen.
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Blessings are refreshing
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Along this pilgrim way
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Blessings are refreshing
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they help us day by day
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God is our joy and comfort
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such a mighty God is He
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Father, Son, and Holy Ghost
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the three all live in me
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As we look back
through our lives
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We can plainly see
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How that God has helped us
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through times of tragedies
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How he works is a mystery
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His wonders to perform
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Day by day He leads the way
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From evening until mom
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Blessings are refreshing
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Along this pilgrim way
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Blessings are refreshing
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They help us day by day
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God is our joy and comfort
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Such a mighty God is He
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Father, Son, and Holy Ghost
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The three all live in me
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Whatsoever things are lovely
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Whatsoever things are true
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Think on these,
the Lord has said
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This is right for you and me
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The Bible tells us how to live
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our lives for Him each day
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Father, Son, and Holy Ghost
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Will bless us on our way
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We need to count our blessings
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each and every day
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We'll find there are so many.
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He sends along the way
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Friends and
loved ones play a part
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to make out lives complete
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Oh, bless the tie that binds us
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in one big family
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Blessings are refreshing
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Along this pilgrim way
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Blessings are refreshing;
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They help us day by day
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God is our joy and comfort
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Such a mighty God is He
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Father, Son, and Holy Ghost
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the three all live in me
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Father, Son, and Holy Ghost
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The three all live in me
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Amen.
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I mean, that is a
sermon within itself
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as you go through those verses.
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But where would we be
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without those
Blessings Are Refreshing.
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Let's bow our heads
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and let's ask the
Lord to be with us
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as we begin this study together.
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Merciful Father in heaven,
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we truly thank you for
the privilege of prayer.
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Thank you that we
can call you our father.
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Amen
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What a privilege opened
the pages of this beautiful,
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wonderful, perfect book,
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that we can read that
the words that are there,
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we can drink
them, and take them,
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and they will change us
and mould us into your image.
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How desperately we need
the power of the Holy Spirit.
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Lord, we just can't understand
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spiritual things
without the Spirit.
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So I pray you'd will
shower that precious, lovely,
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Holy Spirit upon each one.
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Not just around this
table, but around the world,
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those who are tuning
in, those who are viewing,
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those who are at home.
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There's some right now
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hungering and
thirsting after righteousness.
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They been pointed to the well,
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but they have not the courage
in which to go to the well.
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They know they need to
drink, but some have that cup,
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spiritual cup in their hand
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but they're afraid
to take that drink.
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And so I pray
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that your Holy
Spirit will anoint the words
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that will be spoken today,
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that will be no longer be I,
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but the Christ that lives in
us and it will go to that water,
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that free water, will drink it.
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Oh, Father, I pray that
each one will be fill today.
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Bless now.
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We pray, not our
will but thine be done.
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Oh, we need to hear your
voice, please speak to us.
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And everyone that's at
home may decisions be made now,
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not just for
today but for eternity,
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and how we long to meet
these sweet individuals,
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help us to be
faithful till the end.
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And then the study will
see there's some choices
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that need to be made.
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And I thank you for the power
you give us to make that choice
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and to keep that.
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We pray in Jesus'
holy precious name.
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Amen. Amen.
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Thank Lord. Amen.
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You know, honey, when you
was talking about this subject,
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you said What Fruit?
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That it start
out with a question,
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Brother CA, what fruit?
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And I thought, Oh, well,
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this is just kind of what fruit.
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We've talked about
the fruits of the spirit.
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But the moment I
looked at the deeper it got.
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The more I began
to study and read
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it began to get so deep.
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And I thought you
know, this will touch
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every individual that will
stay by their set right now.
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It touched me as I read,
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it gave me hope and
it gave me encouragement.
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Our prayer that will give
you hope and encouragement
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today because it's
deeper than just fruit.
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You can say it real
quick, what are the fruits,
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boom, and go home.
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Right. This is deep.
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No.
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And God wants us to
dig deep in the word,
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so I pray that each one
of us will discuss this,
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we'll see some things.
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May be we've seen
but we have acted on it,
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we're gonna act on those today.
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Well, we actually
have several questions
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that we're gonna go through.
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Okay. And we
might get one or two.
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If we get to that second
line of the of the impress.
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All right.
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But you know, as
we're on those walk
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of sanctification and as people,
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you know, as
we're changing inside
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and they're looking
and they are saying,
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you know, really
what's different about
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Sister Jill since
she's been a Christian
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versus when she wasn't?
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Is there really
any different fruit?
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You know a lot of times
people throw up their hands
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and they just say,
"Is there any hope?
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Is there any hope?"
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Because we get
discouraged in ourselves.
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But we're going to
start out with the question.
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And question number one,
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and we were even
talking a little bit
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before we started here,
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and I think
everybody's been blessed
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to come from a
little different angles.
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I think it's
going to be really good.
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Because I know even
within our own church
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we have had people
stumble over these things.
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And unfortunately,
fall away from the truth.
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So let's look at
number one, it says,
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"Is it true,
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God made us who
we are, is it true?
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Therefore, what
choice do we really have?
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Some people
appear to be made "good"
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while others seem
to have no choice,
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they are just been bent evil."
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So did God make
people who they are?
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In other words,
did he make some good,
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did he make some bad,
may be some in between?
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You've heard the
song, The Good Old Boys.
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I know President
Kennedy said years ago
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The Good Old Boys are not
going to make it to heaven.
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You may be a good
old boy in this earth.
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I get myself in
trouble sometimes.
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It's all right, it's all right.
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But you may not
make it the kingdom.
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It's all right,
stir the pot little bit.
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But in other words,
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are we, basically
are we predestined?
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Oh, mercy.
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You know, what
do you guys think.
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We, there is predestination,
we have been predestined
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to be conformed to
the image of Christ.
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That's the only area
I can find in the word
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for that word is
used concerning us.
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And that being conformed
to the image of Christ,
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that's your personal choice,
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and that comes
from your free will,
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and it has nothing to do
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with what anybody else
says or does about you.
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That is something
that only you can do.
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You hear what you said,
you kind of mix the two.
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You said, predestined,
but it's your personal choice.
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Absolutely.
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See, there's some people that
believe if you're predestined
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you have no personal choice.
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And I've actually
talked to a dear, dear lady
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and she says, "I had no choice.
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God called me,
that's it, I'm saying.
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Others have had no choice.
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God didn't call them
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and if it weren't
for those bad people
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we would
really..." these her words,
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"We wouldn't really understand
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you know, what the
devil is all about."
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I find that, I don't
know, it's not difficult,
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I don't know if
someone else can relate that,
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when you say in my
experience, I have no choice.
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I find it different,
certainly foreign to scripture.
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But I like what you
said because very few people,
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even an Adventism will say,
predestination is scriptural,
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it is scriptural as long...
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If you only look
at what that word say,
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"to be conformed to
the image of Christ."
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Yes.
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And God gave us free
choice, so you can't,
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you know, how can you compare
the two and come out saying,
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"No, I don't have free choice."
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You do have free choice.
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But the only time I can find,
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the only thing I can find
that we are predestined to do
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is to become into his
image and his likeness.
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Would you say, Pastor CA,
when you there, as long...
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predestined as
long as we maintain
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a certain relationship to God?
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Does that make sense?
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And it's, what's predestined is,
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if I get on 149 and head west
I am going to West Frankfurt.
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You know, that's true,
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and unless something disturbs me
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or dissuade me or
changes my direction,
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that I keep going west,
I'm going to West Frankfurt.
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So there are
certain courses of action
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that result in certain results.
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Yes.
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That's pretty determine,
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that if you do certain things,
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certain things
are going to happen
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because of those things.
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Now, unless God
intervenes and changes
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certain courses
lead to certain ends.
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But you decide
which road, I can go east,
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I go west on
west, you know, on 149.
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I make that determination.
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But if I decide to go west,
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I'm going to West
Frankfurt, no other way.
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If I go east I
go someplace else,
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but west is West Frankfurt.
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And that's what
we got to understand.
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I could make that choice,
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but once you make a
certain set of choices
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those choices lead
you to certain ends.
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And if you want
to change the end,
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change the choices,
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and God has always
left that up to us.
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I think there's
no confusion here.
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Did you have something,
go ahead, Sister Jill.
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I was just going to share
one of my favorite passages
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because there are
several that deal with choice,
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but I like this one from Joshua.
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Joshua 24:15.
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Yes. Love it.
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"And if it seems evil unto
you to serve the Lord, choose."
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Choose, we have a choice.
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You see, even though you're
talking about we're predestined
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you still had
the choice in there.
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So that's a balance,
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and perhaps, it's
even looking at a different
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definition of the word
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than what people are
used to thinking of it as.
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"Choose for this
day whom ye will serve,
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whether the Gods
which your fathers served
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that were on the
other side of the flood
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or the Gods of the Amorites,
in whose land ye dwell.
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But..."
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I love this, "But
as for me and my house,
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we will serve the Lord."
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As for me and my house,
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that's what we
want for everybody.
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Sister Jill, does it make sense
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that the way that we were raised
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a lot of times
makes a little difference
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in sometimes
choice that we make?
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One, I want to give you
quick illustration, you come...
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My mother had a
like a little plaque
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and she did little needle work,
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call it whatever,
embroidery or crochet.
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I don't know what it
is, but in the letters
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it's said, 'As
for me and my house.'
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I still have that,
that we will serve the Lord.
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And I've seen
that as a little child,
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on the wall always there,
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and I thought, 'As
for me and my house,
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we will serve the Lord.'
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And it always stuck.
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Do you find things like that in,
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like in your life
and things that's big?
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Oh, yes. Absolutely, I think so.
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I think the Bible
says train up a child
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in the way he should go,
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and when he is old he
will not depart from it.
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I, going back to what
Pastor CA just mentioned,
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if you go east on
149 or west on 149,
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it reminds me of Galatians 6.
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The Bible says,
"Do not be deceived
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God is not mock,
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whenever man sows
that shall he also reap."
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We can reap the
flash, corruption
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or of the spirit
life everlasting.
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And I think those choices
that are made in the home,
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parents, the choices they
have as for me and my house,
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we will serve the Lord.
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Those choices reap consequences.
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Whether I choose
to go east or west,
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I'm going to
eventually reap corruption
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or life everlasting
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based on what those choices are.
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We make a choice for God.
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But then, tomorrow morning
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I got to make the
same choice for God.
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Thank you.
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When we were home
we had little help.
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Yes.
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Making choices.
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We need it as young people.
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Go ahead, I want to put that
in because that's important,
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because lot of time
you are three or four
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or five years old
and you ask the child,
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"What do you want to do?"
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We had help with those choices,
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and I was thankful
with Godly parents.
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And I think we need to have
help in the right direction.
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We were just at
some meetings in Ohio.
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Pastor Sizemore from Missouri,
00:21:19.11\00:21:21.78
he's got a couple
churches, I think, in Missouri,
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and he gave a testimony,
00:21:24.68\00:21:26.11
and I hope I
relate this accurately.
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But he was a call
porters for many years.
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And he had a card from
a lady and he said that
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you know, as a call porters,
my mother was a call porters,
00:21:33.39\00:21:35.22
and I was so blessed to be
able to go with her sometimes.
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But he, we
didn't do what he did,
00:21:37.73\00:21:39.56
he could actually
look at the writing,
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kind of tell if it was a woman,
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and may be they might
be able to get the books,
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type of things you know.
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And he looked at
this and he said,
00:21:46.00\00:21:47.60
well, they had
loopy handwriting.
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So he could tell
it was a woman's card.
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So he went to this
home and the lady was there,
00:21:51.27\00:21:54.88
she was so excited, "Oh,
I'm so glad that you're here,
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come on in."
00:21:57.25\00:21:58.58
And so he was there
00:21:58.61\00:22:00.25
and you know, he realized
it was just him and her,
00:22:00.28\00:22:03.82
then pretty soon she
heard her husband come,
00:22:03.85\00:22:06.32
she's like, "Oh,
no my husband's here."
00:22:06.35\00:22:10.33
And he thought...
00:22:10.59\00:22:11.93
He thought, oh-oh.
00:22:11.96\00:22:13.29
You know, because
it is just the man,
00:22:13.33\00:22:14.66
he doesn't know him from Adam
00:22:14.70\00:22:16.10
or that he's a
Christian or what he's doing
00:22:16.13\00:22:17.67
or what he's
presenting to this lady.
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And for those of
you that don't know,
00:22:19.93\00:22:22.44
those that are call porters,
00:22:22.47\00:22:24.61
they take bible story
books and they go house to house
00:22:24.64\00:22:27.44
in order to try to sell
them and to share those.
00:22:27.48\00:22:30.45
In fact, now I love it
00:22:30.48\00:22:32.05
because many times if
a person can't afford it,
00:22:32.08\00:22:34.52
they have
something to give them.
00:22:34.55\00:22:36.25
And years ago we
didn't always have that,
00:22:36.28\00:22:37.99
and that was
something that was hard to do
00:22:38.02\00:22:40.56
is to walk away and
not leave something.
00:22:40.59\00:22:42.99
But anyway,
00:22:43.02\00:22:45.33
the man came in
and he began to yell
00:22:45.36\00:22:48.06
and say expletives,
00:22:48.10\00:22:49.56
and he wanted him out of there.
00:22:49.60\00:22:52.10
And as he was leaving
or getting up to leave,
00:22:52.13\00:22:55.27
she told him, she
says, "Oh, I'm so sorry,
00:22:55.30\00:22:58.04
my husband was raised
a Seventh-day Adventist."
00:22:58.07\00:23:00.34
Oh, wow.
00:23:00.38\00:23:01.71
Easy now.
00:23:01.74\00:23:03.38
Yeah. What fruit?
00:23:03.41\00:23:06.01
What fruit?
00:23:06.05\00:23:07.92
What choices, how are we giving
our children these choices?
00:23:07.95\00:23:11.92
You know, and I was
waiting for him to say,
00:23:13.25\00:23:15.12
oh, I was able to have
an open door with this,
00:23:15.16\00:23:16.99
but it never happened.
00:23:17.03\00:23:18.99
You know, what
fruit, as any Christian,
00:23:19.03\00:23:21.26
Seventh-day
Adventists, any Christian,
00:23:21.30\00:23:23.60
you know, what type
of example of heaven
00:23:23.63\00:23:26.33
are we giving to our
children and those around us?
00:23:26.37\00:23:28.87
Our husbands, our
wives, brothers, sisters.
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As we look on and we read more,
00:23:32.44\00:23:34.58
we'll talk a little
bit more about that.
00:23:34.61\00:23:36.51
But I thought that was heavy.
00:23:36.54\00:23:37.88
You know, before
we leave this subject,
00:23:37.91\00:23:40.52
even in our desire
to be like the Lord,
00:23:40.55\00:23:44.09
it's very difficult
sometimes to divorce
00:23:44.12\00:23:46.89
yourself from who you are.
00:23:46.92\00:23:49.52
Which is why,
that and all things
00:23:49.56\00:23:50.89
we must be surround to the Lord.
00:23:50.93\00:23:52.43
You know because
your question ask,
00:23:52.46\00:23:54.60
did God make us who we are?
00:23:54.63\00:23:57.13
God made a perfect man
00:23:57.17\00:23:59.23
and when God
finishes his creation he said,
00:23:59.27\00:24:01.50
everything was good,
00:24:01.54\00:24:02.87
it was suited for the
intent that it was created.
00:24:02.90\00:24:06.74
But the first chapter of Romans
00:24:06.84\00:24:10.21
takes pains to say that
we've kind of messed that up.
00:24:10.25\00:24:13.28
You know, we can
didn't remember God,
00:24:13.31\00:24:15.55
we certainly didn't glorify God,
00:24:15.58\00:24:17.22
and we change the
truth of God into a lie.
00:24:17.25\00:24:20.16
So if you go back to Psalms 51,
00:24:20.19\00:24:22.06
David be moans the fact,
00:24:22.09\00:24:23.43
I am bored in sing
and shape and iniquity.
00:24:23.46\00:24:25.39
So I'm not what God
made, there's a lot of chances.
00:24:25.43\00:24:28.23
You look at Adam, look at me.
00:24:28.26\00:24:30.00
Very little resemblance,
he's taller, better looking,
00:24:30.03\00:24:32.33
you know, just go down the list.
00:24:32.37\00:24:34.40
So I'm not what God,
00:24:34.44\00:24:35.84
I've deteriorated
unless I make a decision.
00:24:35.87\00:24:39.31
It's what Mollie
was talking about.
00:24:39.34\00:24:40.94
A choice to turn to what's God,
00:24:40.98\00:24:42.41
the default
setting is corruption.
00:24:42.44\00:24:43.78
I think Jill said
that's so beautifully
00:24:43.81\00:24:45.31
that if I do nothing,
I've bent myself to hell,
00:24:45.35\00:24:48.78
I have.
00:24:48.82\00:24:50.15
God is a positive decision.
00:24:50.19\00:24:51.52
I've got to say to
the Lord, I accept you,
00:24:51.55\00:24:53.59
and then we
begin to work together.
00:24:53.62\00:24:55.26
But if I do nothing,
00:24:55.29\00:24:56.73
I remain in my corrupt state.
00:24:56.76\00:24:58.23
And the wages of sin is death.
00:24:58.26\00:25:00.70
Now that is, that's determined,
00:25:00.73\00:25:02.46
that the wages of sin is death.
00:25:02.50\00:25:03.83
If Christ would have got
around that, he would have,
00:25:03.87\00:25:07.07
but he couldn't because
the wages of sin is death,
00:25:07.10\00:25:08.64
Christ had to die.
00:25:08.67\00:25:10.01
So now the gift of
God is eternal life.
00:25:10.04\00:25:12.27
But if I stay at
the wages of sin,
00:25:12.31\00:25:14.94
the equal sign says dead,
00:25:14.98\00:25:16.78
and there's no way
to get around that,
00:25:16.81\00:25:18.15
unless I
positively accept Christ.
00:25:18.18\00:25:19.75
And that's what we preach
so hard and teach so hard,
00:25:19.78\00:25:22.58
and that's why 3ABN exists,
00:25:22.62\00:25:23.95
and that's why we
come together to do worship
00:25:23.99\00:25:25.65
because we got to
let the people know
00:25:25.69\00:25:27.06
if you do nothing,
00:25:27.09\00:25:28.42
you've already
decided for Satan.
00:25:28.46\00:25:29.79
You have to make
a positive decision,
00:25:29.82\00:25:31.16
you got to choose,
as you just stated.
00:25:31.19\00:25:33.86
Is there other, I
mean is there other words,
00:25:33.90\00:25:36.03
what I find in scripture
when people tries to deny
00:25:36.06\00:25:39.10
that there's choices to be made.
00:25:39.13\00:25:40.94
You know, I read scripture,
I see we have to be willing,
00:25:40.97\00:25:44.94
we need to be obedient, work,
watch, pray, struggle, fight.
00:25:45.54\00:25:49.54
You know you see
all these words, commit.
00:25:51.51\00:25:53.92
Then I ran
across this little thing
00:25:53.95\00:25:56.05
in Spirit of Prophecy 5T345.
00:25:56.08\00:25:58.05
I just have to read this,
00:25:58.09\00:25:59.42
this is very interesting.
00:25:59.45\00:26:01.36
When it said this,
00:26:01.39\00:26:02.72
I got little like hair on
the back of my neck stood up
00:26:02.76\00:26:05.16
because to me,
when I read the Bible
00:26:05.19\00:26:07.03
there's nothing
impossible with God.
00:26:07.06\00:26:09.16
I mean, I was
brought up that way,
00:26:09.20\00:26:10.80
I believe it
with my whole heart.
00:26:10.83\00:26:12.20
That's not big,
it's not, it's just...
00:26:12.23\00:26:13.84
That's the way it is
in a Christian's life.
00:26:13.87\00:26:16.84
And I read this right here
00:26:16.87\00:26:18.21
dealing with the subject matter,
00:26:18.24\00:26:19.57
it says, "No one,
00:26:19.61\00:26:22.31
not even God,
00:26:22.34\00:26:25.78
can carry us to heaven
00:26:25.81\00:26:28.08
unless we make
00:26:28.12\00:26:29.88
the necessary
effort on our part."
00:26:29.92\00:26:33.19
Just what you were saying.
00:26:33.22\00:26:35.12
I'm getting
goosebumps right now,
00:26:35.16\00:26:36.83
until we make that commitment,
00:26:36.86\00:26:39.69
that effort, fight
that good fight of faith
00:26:39.73\00:26:43.33
God can't
overrule what he set up,
00:26:43.37\00:26:46.10
the conditions of salvation.
00:26:46.13\00:26:47.97
And that's going on for
what Pastor CA just said.
00:26:48.00\00:26:51.27
And I believe we have to be,
00:26:51.31\00:26:52.97
make a cognizant
no effort to do that.
00:26:53.01\00:26:56.81
You know, I think when
we feel hopeless many time
00:26:56.85\00:26:59.28
is because we've
made that decision
00:26:59.31\00:27:01.52
and all of a sudden
it's Sabbath morning
00:27:01.55\00:27:04.02
and you go down and
everything is in disarray,
00:27:04.05\00:27:06.82
nobody's ready.
00:27:06.86\00:27:09.52
You're laughing.
00:27:09.56\00:27:10.89
Hello, has anybody ever lost it?
00:27:10.93\00:27:14.33
That's right. Has
anybody ever lost it?
00:27:14.36\00:27:16.77
You see, and I
believe with that, that man
00:27:16.80\00:27:19.40
that told Pastor Sizemore,
the wife, she told him,
00:27:19.43\00:27:22.70
that he was raised an Adventist,
00:27:22.74\00:27:24.07
you know, it could be that
you know, on Sabbath morning,
00:27:24.11\00:27:26.64
"You get there,
blah, blah, blah,"
00:27:26.68\00:27:28.21
and then you go to church
00:27:28.24\00:27:29.58
and "Hello, brothers
and sisters, how are you?
00:27:29.61\00:27:31.98
Oh, want a blessed day."
00:27:32.01\00:27:33.42
And it's just been
horrible all morning.
00:27:33.45\00:27:36.12
You know, you may
have lost it over somebody
00:27:36.15\00:27:38.02
rolling the toothpaste separate,
00:27:38.05\00:27:39.49
I don't know.
00:27:39.52\00:27:40.86
So what happens
there, what about our fruits?
00:27:40.89\00:27:43.63
We know we were
determined but we fall.
00:27:43.66\00:27:45.73
Something turned that
child's heart in the other way,
00:27:45.76\00:27:49.60
that man's heart.
00:27:49.63\00:27:50.97
You know the question,
00:27:51.00\00:27:54.54
"If we're created this
why, is there anything,
00:27:54.57\00:27:57.57
what can we do about it?
00:27:57.61\00:27:58.94
Do we have any choice?"
00:27:58.97\00:28:00.31
And I just wanted to
look at Satan, can we do that?
00:28:00.34\00:28:03.45
Yes.
00:28:03.48\00:28:04.91
So tell me how he was created.
00:28:04.95\00:28:07.38
Perfect.
00:28:07.42\00:28:08.75
In all ways.
00:28:08.78\00:28:10.12
Okay, what was his end?
00:28:10.15\00:28:12.85
He's the great
adversary, is he not?
00:28:12.89\00:28:14.52
Yes, he is. Yes, he is.
00:28:14.56\00:28:15.92
So who made that choice for him?
00:28:15.96\00:28:18.86
He did.
00:28:18.89\00:28:20.23
He had to have made that choice.
00:28:20.26\00:28:22.10
And if you know,
00:28:22.13\00:28:25.20
he made the choice
in the wrong direction.
00:28:25.23\00:28:28.40
But we, thank God,
born in sin and inequity,
00:28:28.44\00:28:32.37
where we not?
00:28:32.77\00:28:34.11
Make the right choice.
00:28:34.14\00:28:35.61
Amen.
00:28:35.64\00:28:36.98
And what is our
eternal destiny then?
00:28:37.01\00:28:39.88
Again, we've been predestined,
00:28:39.91\00:28:43.28
our destiny has
been that we would be
00:28:43.32\00:28:45.35
in the image and likeness of God
00:28:45.39\00:28:47.59
because of what Christ
brought out for us at Calvary.
00:28:47.62\00:28:49.99
Amen.
00:28:50.03\00:28:51.36
Same thing you were talking
about in the Garden of Eden.
00:28:51.39\00:28:53.40
Yes.
00:28:53.43\00:28:54.76
You know, I try
to explain to someone
00:28:54.80\00:28:56.20
who believes in predestination,
not scripturally so.
00:28:56.23\00:28:59.77
And I said, "Well is
that, was that not a choice?
00:28:59.80\00:29:03.77
You know what's offered,
and didn't you had to the..."
00:29:04.14\00:29:07.21
Oh, no, God
know, he predestined,
00:29:07.24\00:29:09.08
he knew it was going to
happen so it just happened.
00:29:09.11\00:29:10.45
She had no choice.
00:29:10.48\00:29:11.81
I said, I just
can not believe that.
00:29:11.85\00:29:13.31
She did have a choice.
00:29:13.35\00:29:14.75
You know, and
I've said a few times,
00:29:14.78\00:29:16.62
when I get to heaven I
want to have a talk with her.
00:29:16.65\00:29:19.09
She messed things up
pretty bad, didn't' she.
00:29:19.12\00:29:21.79
And you know what,
00:29:21.82\00:29:23.16
and then I want
to talk to Adam then.
00:29:23.19\00:29:25.53
Because if he had chosen,
00:29:25.56\00:29:27.83
if he had chosen to
stay there and choose God,
00:29:27.86\00:29:31.03
this mess wouldn't be here.
00:29:31.07\00:29:32.40
I believe that. They weren't.
00:29:32.43\00:29:33.77
There just one remain faithful
00:29:33.80\00:29:35.20
everything would
have continued on.
00:29:35.24\00:29:37.04
Oh, I am getting goosebumps.
00:29:37.07\00:29:38.61
So we need to have, we'd
be so happy when we get there.
00:29:38.64\00:29:41.51
He'd be talking to us,
"I wonder why you're here."
00:29:41.54\00:29:43.38
Yes.
00:29:43.41\00:29:45.15
This is why we can never
get past the first question,
00:29:45.18\00:29:46.95
but I want to do just...
00:29:46.98\00:29:50.15
Romans 7:18,
00:29:50.19\00:29:52.42
Paul is saying
that, "I know that in me,
00:29:52.45\00:29:54.56
that in my flesh
dweleth no good today."
00:29:54.59\00:29:56.69
So there's
nothing good in there.
00:29:56.73\00:29:58.89
And I think it goes
back to Molly's point.
00:29:58.93\00:30:01.86
What's predestined is the way,
00:30:01.90\00:30:05.87
the way to
salvation is pre-determined,
00:30:06.17\00:30:09.57
it's pretty done,
00:30:09.60\00:30:10.94
you just got to
choose to walk in it.
00:30:10.97\00:30:12.31
But in your flesh
there's nothing good.
00:30:12.34\00:30:14.51
But it doesn't end there,
00:30:14.54\00:30:15.88
because once you
make that turn to Christ,
00:30:15.91\00:30:17.38
Christ works his way in
you, with you, for you, to you,
00:30:17.41\00:30:20.78
through you to what
he's asking you to do.
00:30:20.82\00:30:23.02
Amen. What hope.
00:30:23.05\00:30:24.69
There is hope, there is
hope, because if he does say,
00:30:24.72\00:30:27.02
dwells no good thing in this,
that's just, you know, just...
00:30:27.06\00:30:30.16
And when God looks at us
00:30:30.19\00:30:31.86
what does he look at us through?
00:30:31.89\00:30:33.70
He looks at us through
that mercy, CA, doe she not?
00:30:33.73\00:30:36.00
And what us, who,
there is no good thing,
00:30:36.03\00:30:38.63
our hearts are
wicked, exceedingly wicked.
00:30:38.67\00:30:41.54
But when God looks at us,
00:30:41.57\00:30:43.04
if we've made Jesus
Christ the Lord of our life,
00:30:43.07\00:30:45.57
Pastor Kenny, he looks at us
00:30:45.61\00:30:47.08
through the shed blood
of the Lord Jesus Christ.
00:30:47.11\00:30:49.31
And the blood speaks better
things than the blood of...
00:30:49.34\00:30:52.51
That's right.
00:30:52.55\00:30:53.88
It cries out
mercy, have mercy on us.
00:30:53.92\00:30:57.59
And we stand before God
00:30:57.62\00:30:59.02
with that, with mercy applied...
00:30:59.05\00:31:01.86
Don't you want to feel like
00:31:01.89\00:31:03.22
that you're more than an odds,
00:31:03.26\00:31:06.96
this one makes
it, that will doesn't,
00:31:08.00\00:31:09.56
there's no choice,
you're predestined,
00:31:09.60\00:31:11.80
you're nothing
more than a chance?
00:31:11.83\00:31:13.17
Right.
00:31:13.20\00:31:14.54
I don't believe that
and the Bible does not,
00:31:14.57\00:31:16.47
so you're born with a
price, the king of the universe,
00:31:16.50\00:31:20.28
so you're special.
00:31:20.31\00:31:21.64
Who so ever will.
00:31:21.68\00:31:23.38
Because doctor don't push
you around for good or for ill,
00:31:23.41\00:31:25.85
you know, he's not going
to going to push you around.
00:31:25.88\00:31:28.22
And I think that's why this,
00:31:28.25\00:31:29.65
that statement is so
powerful and arresting,
00:31:29.68\00:31:33.25
that if you don't
choose as mighty as God is,
00:31:33.29\00:31:36.93
he can't, you
know, he can't do for you
00:31:36.96\00:31:39.83
what you don't
want done for you.
00:31:39.86\00:31:41.70
Because you just
don't want to go to heaven,
00:31:41.73\00:31:43.06
well, he's won't take you.
00:31:43.10\00:31:44.43
Well, with this
thought in this platform,
00:31:44.47\00:31:46.43
and hold your thought,
00:31:46.47\00:31:47.80
because I'm sure they
will still play a part.
00:31:47.84\00:31:49.44
Let's look at
question number two,
00:31:49.47\00:31:51.17
because this throws people,
00:31:51.21\00:31:53.41
this throws
people who are grounded,
00:31:53.44\00:31:55.21
who feel like they understand
that we do have a choice,
00:31:55.24\00:31:59.21
but when they begin to read
some of these verses in Exodus,
00:31:59.25\00:32:03.25
it's a little confusing.
00:32:03.89\00:32:06.19
So let's look at
the second question.
00:32:06.22\00:32:07.82
It says, "Doesn't the Bible say
00:32:07.86\00:32:10.36
that God
hardened Pharaoh's heart?
00:32:10.39\00:32:13.19
Doesn't that prove that
some are born to be lost?"
00:32:13.23\00:32:17.20
So let's continue
on, what do you think?
00:32:18.07\00:32:20.37
Does it say that.
00:32:20.40\00:32:21.74
Oh, go ahead, read,
somebody read Exodus 7:3.
00:32:21.77\00:32:24.21
But you know, think
about it when you do this,
00:32:24.24\00:32:25.87
because we've
been talking about,
00:32:25.91\00:32:28.11
when you have
predestination, and election,
00:32:28.14\00:32:30.75
lot of people say,
well, this is a election.
00:32:30.78\00:32:33.08
And I like to
think in terms of this,
00:32:33.11\00:32:35.95
don't turn to hog the time
00:32:35.98\00:32:37.32
but I'm just,
it's so interesting,
00:32:37.35\00:32:38.79
you say election,
00:32:38.82\00:32:40.16
make sure you're
calling election is sure.
00:32:40.19\00:32:42.32
And one man explained
it one time, even I got it,
00:32:42.36\00:32:45.69
I finally got it.
00:32:45.73\00:32:47.60
He said, it's just simple,
00:32:47.63\00:32:48.96
you may have
read this somewhere.
00:32:49.00\00:32:50.33
He said, "It's
God votes for you,
00:32:50.37\00:32:53.74
and the devil votes against you,
00:32:55.54\00:32:58.74
and when you cast your vote,
00:32:58.77\00:33:00.48
that's the way
it's going to be."
00:33:00.51\00:33:01.84
Amen. Oh, that' good.
00:33:01.88\00:33:03.21
I just jumped and shout.
00:33:03.24\00:33:05.48
See, how that make sense?
00:33:05.51\00:33:07.05
I make the
deciding determination
00:33:07.08\00:33:09.42
of where I'm
going to spend eternity,
00:33:09.45\00:33:11.05
I am the deciding vote.
00:33:11.09\00:33:13.69
Isn't that
simple. I really like it.
00:33:13.72\00:33:15.56
Well, I tell you, I
get goosebumps again.
00:33:15.59\00:33:19.16
People think it's so exci...
00:33:19.19\00:33:20.60
That is so simple, and so sweet,
00:33:20.63\00:33:23.00
and so wonderful.
00:33:23.03\00:33:24.40
I said, God ho
I've kind of missed that
00:33:24.43\00:33:26.30
because I know I had a vote.
00:33:26.33\00:33:27.67
Yeah, you're the tiebreaker.
00:33:27.70\00:33:29.34
Tiebreaker.
00:33:29.37\00:33:30.71
Okay, I just
had to get that out.
00:33:30.74\00:33:32.57
I like that.
00:33:32.61\00:33:33.94
You know this
whole concept of choice,
00:33:33.98\00:33:36.78
just being honest with
you, is actually painful for me,
00:33:36.81\00:33:39.61
not for me personally
00:33:39.65\00:33:41.25
but because I
have family members.
00:33:41.28\00:33:43.12
Oh, yes.
00:33:43.15\00:33:44.52
That say, "God
made me this way."
00:33:44.55\00:33:47.49
I hear that.
00:33:47.52\00:33:49.12
"God made me
this way, and my sin,
00:33:49.16\00:33:52.09
and what's going on in
my life, I can't change it.
00:33:52.13\00:33:55.96
God would have made me different
00:33:56.00\00:33:57.43
if he hadn't wanted this.
00:33:57.47\00:33:59.93
I don't have any choice."
00:33:59.97\00:34:01.30
It's grieving.
00:34:01.34\00:34:02.67
But I love what you said,
because God cast the vote,
00:34:02.70\00:34:05.61
and yes, Satan
wants our soul too.
00:34:05.64\00:34:09.14
But we have to
make a choice. Amen.
00:34:09.18\00:34:11.11
Say, God, I know I
can't change myself,
00:34:11.15\00:34:14.18
but I want to cast
my vote on your side,
00:34:14.22\00:34:16.79
I want to make that choice.
00:34:16.82\00:34:18.15
Because you think about Pharaoh,
00:34:18.19\00:34:19.52
you asked about Pharaoh.
00:34:19.55\00:34:21.16
If we say no to God
00:34:21.19\00:34:23.06
and we cast out
vote on Satan's side,
00:34:23.09\00:34:25.16
that hardens my heart.
00:34:25.19\00:34:28.63
And the next time
God calls for my heart
00:34:28.66\00:34:30.93
and I cast my vote
on Satan's side again
00:34:30.97\00:34:33.34
my heart becomes hard again,
00:34:33.37\00:34:36.54
and again, and again.
00:34:36.57\00:34:38.27
But if I don't do that
00:34:38.31\00:34:39.71
and if every time
God calls for my vote.
00:34:39.74\00:34:41.94
I cast it on God's side,
it become soft and pliable.
00:34:41.98\00:34:45.95
And he says what, Ezekiel 36,
00:34:46.88\00:34:48.65
"A new heart
also will I give you,
00:34:48.68\00:34:51.32
and the new spirit
will I put within you,
00:34:51.35\00:34:53.29
and I'm going to take
away that harden soul."
00:34:53.32\00:34:55.06
That hard heart,
those dispositions,
00:34:55.09\00:34:58.29
predispositions whatever to sin,
00:34:58.33\00:35:00.66
and I'm going to
give you a heart of flesh.
00:35:00.70\00:35:03.50
Praise God.
00:35:03.53\00:35:05.20
So you hear what
she's saying, don't you?
00:35:05.23\00:35:07.07
She's already explaining it.
00:35:07.10\00:35:08.50
It does say, and
I'll just read it,
00:35:08.54\00:35:10.07
I would add somebody.
00:35:10.11\00:35:11.44
But it say, there
are several verses there,
00:35:11.47\00:35:13.14
it says, "And I will
harden..." this is Exodus 7:3,
00:35:13.17\00:35:16.34
"And I will
harden Pharaoh's heart,
00:35:16.38\00:35:18.61
and multiply my
signs and wonders
00:35:18.65\00:35:21.22
in the land of Egypt."
00:35:21.25\00:35:22.65
So but what Jill is saying
00:35:22.68\00:35:24.79
is because of the
choices that Pharaoh made,
00:35:24.82\00:35:28.72
Pharaoh's heart was harder.
00:35:28.76\00:35:30.36
Now how do we
know that to be true?
00:35:30.39\00:35:32.43
Is there a verse?
00:35:32.46\00:35:33.80
I just have to go
because, and jump in,
00:35:33.83\00:35:36.46
even though we always
say, well, and this says,
00:35:36.50\00:35:38.70
his heart was hard,
God hardened his heart.
00:35:38.73\00:35:40.74
But if we just read the
next chapter, Chapter 8:32,
00:35:40.77\00:35:44.74
it says, Pharoah
hardened his own heart.
00:35:44.77\00:35:47.78
And 15. That makes it clear.
00:35:47.81\00:35:49.14
In case people say,
well, now it's the God did,
00:35:49.18\00:35:50.65
he harden his heart
so he could never...
00:35:50.68\00:35:52.51
He hardened his own heart.
00:35:52.55\00:35:54.58
Again, you said, by
the choices that he made.
00:35:54.62\00:35:57.85
You know two things,
00:35:57.89\00:35:59.22
and you can get a
clue long before that
00:35:59.25\00:36:01.32
in the very first
chapter of the Book of Exodus.
00:36:01.36\00:36:05.29
God only has one
way of dealing with,
00:36:05.76\00:36:08.60
"He that loveth not, not
in our God for God is love."
00:36:08.63\00:36:11.33
Come on. That's God, period.
00:36:11.37\00:36:12.97
He does nothing
else, he can do no more,
00:36:13.00\00:36:14.57
he can do no less.
00:36:14.60\00:36:16.04
That's what he does.
00:36:16.07\00:36:17.41
Now depending on the material
that, that love shining on,
00:36:17.44\00:36:20.61
determine
what's going to happen,
00:36:20.64\00:36:21.98
and there's an old adage.
00:36:22.01\00:36:23.35
If it's ice, that
love will melt it.
00:36:23.38\00:36:26.51
If it's like mud
brick, it will harden it.
00:36:26.55\00:36:29.15
So it's the material.
00:36:29.18\00:36:30.52
If you look at,
there's a thing in Bible study
00:36:30.55\00:36:34.32
called the Law First Mention.
00:36:34.99\00:36:36.86
Basically, how the
Bible introduces a person
00:36:36.89\00:36:38.93
kind of gives you an
idea how God sees that person.
00:36:38.96\00:36:41.50
So you look at the first
time a person is mentioned.
00:36:41.53\00:36:43.40
Well, the first in
the very first chapter,
00:36:43.43\00:36:46.27
in verse 15,
00:36:46.30\00:36:48.54
Pharaoh is giving an
order to Hebrew midwives,
00:36:48.57\00:36:52.17
if it's a boy kill him,
if it's a girl let them live.
00:36:52.21\00:36:56.18
Now what kind of heart
make that kind of order?
00:36:56.98\00:36:59.81
That's pretty clear.
00:36:59.85\00:37:01.18
So we know what
we're dealing with,
00:37:01.22\00:37:02.55
this is before we even
talk about God and Pharaoh.
00:37:02.58\00:37:04.49
We're dealing with a person
00:37:04.52\00:37:05.85
who has no
problem snuffing out loud.
00:37:05.89\00:37:08.39
So you got a heart
that's damage, that is flawed.
00:37:08.42\00:37:11.49
Yeah, so this
heart is already hard,
00:37:11.53\00:37:12.99
this is he person
who's got evil intent.
00:37:13.03\00:37:16.10
So now you add God to it,
00:37:16.13\00:37:18.97
you add the love of God to it.
00:37:19.00\00:37:20.34
You ever, you know,
we'll do it real quick.
00:37:20.37\00:37:21.70
You ever get mad, and
want to be mad for a while?
00:37:21.74\00:37:23.74
Oh, yeah.
00:37:23.77\00:37:25.11
You know, sometimes
you just want to be mad.
00:37:25.14\00:37:26.47
Okay.
00:37:26.51\00:37:27.84
I just want to stew
in this for a while.
00:37:27.88\00:37:29.21
I just want to just you know.
00:37:29.24\00:37:30.58
Someone's like, you
know, give me a second,
00:37:30.61\00:37:31.95
I just want to kind of
be mad for a little while.
00:37:31.98\00:37:34.22
Yeah, you know,
you just want to,
00:37:34.25\00:37:35.58
I want to kind of
just process this.
00:37:35.62\00:37:36.95
Okay.
00:37:36.99\00:37:38.32
Well, we've got a guy here who,
00:37:38.35\00:37:41.89
even when he, when
God is introduced to him,
00:37:42.62\00:37:44.39
he says, "Okay, well,
first of all, who is this God?
00:37:44.43\00:37:47.60
That I, I am the
king of this place,
00:37:47.63\00:37:49.50
I am running
the show, who is God
00:37:49.53\00:37:51.50
that I should
change anything I'm doing?"
00:37:51.53\00:37:54.54
So you got a hard heart already.
00:37:54.57\00:37:56.67
Is that same--
00:37:56.71\00:37:58.17
Right.
00:37:58.21\00:37:59.54
Exact same mindset.
00:37:59.57\00:38:00.91
So now the love of God
is not going to soften that,
00:38:00.94\00:38:04.28
it's going to tick him off
because he wants to be mad,
00:38:04.31\00:38:07.38
he wants to be evil.
00:38:07.42\00:38:08.85
And the more you, the
more love you put on it
00:38:08.88\00:38:10.59
just gonna
aggravate, don't love me,
00:38:10.62\00:38:12.45
I don't want to, I
want to be what I am.
00:38:12.49\00:38:14.49
And that's what
we're looking at,
00:38:14.52\00:38:15.86
we got a guy who
will give an order,
00:38:15.89\00:38:17.63
kill male babies, kill them.
00:38:17.66\00:38:19.69
You dealing with a hard heart
00:38:19.73\00:38:21.06
long before God
come in the picture.
00:38:21.10\00:38:22.43
So the very same message
00:38:22.46\00:38:25.07
that hardens someone's heart
00:38:25.10\00:38:27.50
softens someone else's.
00:38:27.54\00:38:29.37
Precisely. That's it.
00:38:29.40\00:38:30.74
Because of the
heart. Because of the heart.
00:38:30.77\00:38:32.11
Because the message is the same,
00:38:32.14\00:38:33.48
it's the heart.
00:38:33.51\00:38:34.88
As you talked
about, what was it,
00:38:34.91\00:38:38.05
the sun melts,
00:38:38.08\00:38:40.78
talk about the wax.
00:38:40.82\00:38:42.15
Yeah. But what does it do?
00:38:42.18\00:38:43.52
It hardens the clay.
00:38:43.55\00:38:44.89
Same stuff,
00:38:44.92\00:38:46.25
it's what it does on
the difference of heart.
00:38:46.29\00:38:48.02
That's why you say,
00:38:48.06\00:38:49.39
"One of your
children is really good,
00:38:49.42\00:38:50.76
the other one is really bad."
00:38:50.79\00:38:52.13
That was part of
what we're talking,
00:38:52.16\00:38:53.50
you talking here about
00:38:53.53\00:38:54.86
it seems like
one is more receptive
00:38:54.90\00:38:56.63
to the spirit
and the other is not.
00:38:56.67\00:38:58.13
How did one turn out this way
00:38:58.17\00:38:59.50
and how did the
other turn that way
00:38:59.53\00:39:01.10
when they had the
same parent parents,
00:39:01.14\00:39:03.44
they had the same Holy
Spirit speaking to them?
00:39:03.47\00:39:07.44
It's always come back
to the heart, wouldn't it?
00:39:07.48\00:39:09.34
The choices.
00:39:09.38\00:39:10.71
Okay, somebody...
00:39:10.75\00:39:12.08
You know, I was
speaking with a friend of mine
00:39:12.11\00:39:13.45
who's a teacher as well.
00:39:13.48\00:39:15.05
We were in college together
and she's still working.
00:39:15.08\00:39:17.75
And she was sharing about
00:39:17.79\00:39:19.12
the principle that they
have at a local junior high.
00:39:19.15\00:39:22.62
And she was talking
about that if the students
00:39:22.66\00:39:26.63
do not do well on the grades
00:39:26.66\00:39:29.36
that the
principal is responsible.
00:39:29.40\00:39:32.13
Oh, wow.
00:39:32.17\00:39:33.50
And the principal's response
00:39:33.54\00:39:34.87
because the principal has
to be sure that those teachers
00:39:34.90\00:39:37.77
know what they're
teaching and how they teach
00:39:37.81\00:39:39.97
and they're
getting the message across.
00:39:40.01\00:39:41.61
Okay?
00:39:41.64\00:39:42.98
So that is her
job, she's responsible.
00:39:43.01\00:39:45.11
So in view of this,
00:39:45.15\00:39:47.42
do you ever feel that
the prophets themselves
00:39:47.45\00:39:49.32
say things the way that they do,
00:39:49.35\00:39:50.79
because they realize ultimately
00:39:50.82\00:39:52.82
the
responsibility goes back to God,
00:39:52.85\00:39:55.16
the sovereignty
goes back to God?
00:39:55.19\00:39:58.36
Interesting.
00:39:58.39\00:39:59.73
In this situation
00:39:59.76\00:40:02.80
God did set up the circumstances
00:40:02.83\00:40:05.53
for Pharaoh to say no.
00:40:05.57\00:40:08.60
He sent Moses
00:40:08.64\00:40:10.47
to tell Pharaoh to set
the children of Israel free.
00:40:10.51\00:40:14.44
Now had God not
sent Moses to do that,
00:40:14.98\00:40:17.55
Pharaoh wouldn't have hardened
his heart and said, "No."
00:40:17.58\00:40:20.78
So God, so we did set
up those circumstances
00:40:20.82\00:40:23.79
and the situation
00:40:23.82\00:40:25.35
where Pharaoh would
stand up and say, "No."
00:40:25.39\00:40:27.92
But God didn't hardness heart,
he just set of circumstances.
00:40:27.96\00:40:31.19
Yeah. What God will do?
00:40:31.23\00:40:32.56
God will put you in a
corner, make you decide.
00:40:32.59\00:40:34.43
That decision...
Yeah, test of faith.
00:40:34.46\00:40:36.50
Oh, yeah, he make you decide.
00:40:36.53\00:40:38.07
Praise God for that.
00:40:38.10\00:40:39.73
Some will
accept, some will harden.
00:40:39.77\00:40:41.24
Yeah, that's the thing.
00:40:41.27\00:40:42.60
The heart is the
issue. It is the issue.
00:40:42.64\00:40:44.64
My sister has four boys
00:40:44.67\00:40:46.01
and they are as
different as night and day.
00:40:46.04\00:40:48.18
And one of
them, I just remember,
00:40:48.21\00:40:49.81
being at her house,
and he was probably four.
00:40:49.84\00:40:52.81
And she corrected him
00:40:52.85\00:40:54.35
and said, "No, you
can't..." whatever,
00:40:54.38\00:40:55.88
"get down from the table
unless this is..." whatever.
00:40:55.92\00:40:58.55
And so he got upset,
00:40:58.59\00:41:00.36
and so she said,
"Go to your room."
00:41:00.39\00:41:02.76
And so he had a little tantrum
00:41:02.79\00:41:04.93
and started going
to go into his room.
00:41:04.96\00:41:06.59
And then all of a
sudden I heard this,
00:41:06.63\00:41:08.80
"Jesus," tears
running down his face,
00:41:08.83\00:41:10.97
"Jesus, help me be
happy. Jesus, help me."
00:41:11.00\00:41:14.87
And I thought that was a
heart that was reaching out,
00:41:14.90\00:41:18.67
that was asking, right?
00:41:18.71\00:41:21.28
And then on the flipside
00:41:21.31\00:41:22.64
you know, you
see others who says,
00:41:22.68\00:41:24.01
"I don't care. I don't want God.
00:41:24.05\00:41:25.38
I want..." what
did you say Pastor CA,
00:41:25.41\00:41:26.92
"hold on to it a while.
00:41:26.95\00:41:28.28
I just want to hang on
to my stuff," you know.
00:41:28.32\00:41:30.39
So the heart is different.
00:41:30.42\00:41:32.22
Absolutely. Yeah.
00:41:32.25\00:41:33.59
And people are definitely
looking at the fruits.
00:41:33.62\00:41:36.26
You know as you're talking,
00:41:36.29\00:41:37.66
I was thinking about a
situation you had told me
00:41:37.69\00:41:40.66
about of someone coming in,
00:41:40.70\00:41:42.06
they were talking
about a set of children,
00:41:42.10\00:41:44.30
and they had the same parents,
00:41:44.33\00:41:45.70
and the same type of upbringing,
00:41:45.73\00:41:47.70
but they were not all the same.
00:41:47.74\00:41:49.64
And so as an outsider
looking in they are like,
00:41:49.67\00:41:51.71
you know, why are
they so different,
00:41:51.74\00:41:53.07
why are they different then you.
00:41:53.11\00:41:55.24
You see, because the
parents, they were Christians,
00:41:55.28\00:41:57.81
they were trying to
live and dress and do,
00:41:57.85\00:42:00.22
you know, the will of God
00:42:00.25\00:42:01.75
and yet, the
children didn't seem to care.
00:42:01.78\00:42:05.75
And so they're
looking and saying,
00:42:05.92\00:42:07.36
you know, why are
they so different?
00:42:07.39\00:42:09.02
So it's
interesting, it's the heart.
00:42:09.06\00:42:12.09
I know even in our own family.
00:42:12.13\00:42:14.36
He's reminded because sometimes
I will grieve thinking,
00:42:14.40\00:42:16.97
oh, may be I could
have done this different,
00:42:17.00\00:42:19.07
I could have
done that different,
00:42:19.10\00:42:20.44
I could have
spent more time here.
00:42:20.47\00:42:22.40
And he said, well,
what about Cain and Abel.
00:42:22.44\00:42:26.41
Somebody think about that one.
00:42:26.57\00:42:28.78
Same parents.
00:42:28.81\00:42:30.15
Absolutely. That helps.
00:42:30.18\00:42:31.51
All the glory,
all the you know...
00:42:31.55\00:42:33.31
I have a legion of stories
where you have two children,
00:42:33.35\00:42:36.69
same parents, same upbringing,
and I don't want to pastor now,
00:42:36.72\00:42:40.36
he's going to retire this year.
00:42:40.39\00:42:42.09
Pastered all his life
and just a couple weeks ago
00:42:42.12\00:42:44.89
I found out from someone else
00:42:44.93\00:42:46.63
that his brother is the leading
drug king in a certain city.
00:42:46.66\00:42:49.96
I mean, you know you've got one
00:42:50.00\00:42:51.33
who's been Adventist
Pastor his whole life,
00:42:51.37\00:42:52.73
now there is a
leading drug dealer in there.
00:42:52.77\00:42:55.37
Same parent, you
know, same parents.
00:42:55.40\00:42:58.04
And you wonder how.
00:42:58.07\00:42:59.41
And you know, you do
your best but ultimately,
00:42:59.44\00:43:02.91
to come to God it's
an individual thing.
00:43:02.94\00:43:05.18
And you can't say,
my mother, my father,
00:43:05.21\00:43:06.55
my grandparents, you know.
00:43:06.58\00:43:08.22
It's on you. It's on you.
00:43:08.25\00:43:10.55
And going back to that choice,
00:43:10.59\00:43:12.29
going back to where
I am looking, Job 4:8,
00:43:12.32\00:43:15.52
just real quickly, Job 4:8.
00:43:15.56\00:43:17.79
It says, "They
that plow iniquity
00:43:17.83\00:43:20.80
and sow
wickedness reap the same."
00:43:20.83\00:43:24.73
So therefore,
what we are sowing,
00:43:24.77\00:43:27.14
we going to reap.
00:43:27.17\00:43:28.67
So if in our homes,
00:43:28.70\00:43:30.34
where it should
be a place of heaven,
00:43:30.37\00:43:32.74
and we are
sowing seeds of strive,
00:43:32.77\00:43:35.28
and anger, and yelling,
and... in the name of Jesus,
00:43:35.31\00:43:39.28
we're going to reap wild fruit.
00:43:40.25\00:43:42.15
Yes.
00:43:42.18\00:43:43.52
You know, no
matter how hard we try.
00:43:43.55\00:43:45.62
And now I think with Pharaoh,
00:43:45.65\00:43:48.09
as you explained, our Pastor CA,
00:43:48.12\00:43:49.89
may be he was the
one that was explaining,
00:43:49.92\00:43:51.83
very early on he was
sowing seeds of wickedness,
00:43:51.86\00:43:55.83
seeds of iniquity.
00:43:56.26\00:43:57.60
How may, I can't even imagine
telling anybody to kill a baby.
00:43:57.63\00:44:01.37
I know. A baby.
00:44:02.70\00:44:04.04
I know.
00:44:04.07\00:44:05.41
Even the animal kingdom,
if they see a human baby,
00:44:05.44\00:44:08.84
they are tender
hearted, and we think of them
00:44:09.11\00:44:11.11
as not having the
intelligence that we have.
00:44:11.15\00:44:13.21
But they were just showing
00:44:13.25\00:44:15.02
not too long ago were a gorilla,
00:44:15.05\00:44:16.92
they were replaying a tape
where a baby had fallen in,
00:44:16.95\00:44:19.69
and this gorilla picks up
00:44:19.72\00:44:21.06
to try to comfort
and hold the baby,
00:44:21.09\00:44:23.76
because it had
fallen in at a zoo.
00:44:23.79\00:44:26.63
Amazing.
00:44:26.66\00:44:28.16
And you know
what's amazing to me
00:44:28.20\00:44:29.56
is God in His sovereignty.
00:44:29.60\00:44:31.13
He looks down on all of us
00:44:31.17\00:44:33.17
and whether we have
chosen to follow God,
00:44:33.20\00:44:35.40
like you said
the Adventist pastor,
00:44:35.44\00:44:36.91
his whole life serve to God,
00:44:36.94\00:44:38.61
or whether, or
the drug Lord, right.
00:44:38.64\00:44:42.41
God still, even while
there is breath in our body,
00:44:42.44\00:44:46.41
he reaches out and he
says, "Return, come back to me.
00:44:47.02\00:44:51.02
I think Ezekiel 18 is one
of my favorite scriptures."
00:44:52.22\00:44:55.12
He says, "Repent and
turn from your transgressions
00:44:55.16\00:44:57.76
for why should you
die, oh, house of Israel."
00:44:57.79\00:45:01.50
And I just want to
appeal to you today,
00:45:01.53\00:45:03.23
we're asking make
a choice for Jesus.
00:45:03.26\00:45:05.93
Yes.
00:45:05.97\00:45:07.30
No matter what
you've done in your life,
00:45:07.34\00:45:09.47
no matter how far
you've traveled down
00:45:09.50\00:45:11.44
that path to hell,
00:45:11.47\00:45:13.14
no matter what you've done,
00:45:13.17\00:45:14.84
God says, you can
still make a choice,
00:45:14.88\00:45:17.78
come back to me.
00:45:17.81\00:45:19.35
Don't die, don't
linger, come back to God.
00:45:19.38\00:45:22.75
And there are some things
00:45:22.78\00:45:24.12
that bite down
on you pretty hard.
00:45:24.15\00:45:25.49
Well...
00:45:25.52\00:45:26.86
You know, you pick
them up along the way
00:45:26.89\00:45:28.29
or you're predispose
or it's in the genes,
00:45:28.32\00:45:30.03
you don't know how.
00:45:30.06\00:45:31.86
That you're going to have to...
00:45:31.89\00:45:33.23
I mean, the kingdom of
God, something's violence,
00:45:33.26\00:45:34.70
something you got to
fight your way through.
00:45:34.73\00:45:36.53
It's just is not
going to be easy.
00:45:36.56\00:45:38.50
You just have something
that's a little tougher
00:45:38.53\00:45:40.14
than what some people
have, but you can be successful,
00:45:40.17\00:45:44.11
you can fight your way through.
00:45:44.14\00:45:45.77
And you get heaven
fighting alongside.
00:45:45.81\00:45:47.58
That's right.
00:45:47.61\00:45:49.34
Isn't that beautiful.
00:45:49.38\00:45:50.71
You know the thing,
sometime we don't realize
00:45:50.75\00:45:52.81
it's easy to
look at someone else.
00:45:52.85\00:45:54.68
I've heard this said and
people said there some time
00:45:54.72\00:45:57.52
some of us are
working on patients,
00:45:57.55\00:46:00.79
as people who's
working on temper.
00:46:00.82\00:46:03.02
They're trying to gain
the victory over temper.
00:46:03.06\00:46:05.49
And I remember reading the
Spirit of Prophecy one time
00:46:05.53\00:46:07.20
because I've always
been kind of quick myself
00:46:07.23\00:46:08.93
and I'll always tried to
commit those aspects to God,
00:46:08.96\00:46:11.93
and he's been working
you know, been still working
00:46:11.97\00:46:14.37
and still working about...
00:46:14.40\00:46:15.87
But those, sometime
we're just not understanding
00:46:15.90\00:46:18.37
because you
mention the word here,
00:46:18.41\00:46:19.74
erring human beings,
00:46:19.77\00:46:21.11
we're working on sanctification,
00:46:21.14\00:46:22.48
preparation for heaven.
00:46:22.51\00:46:23.85
We do not realize how
difficult it is for some people
00:46:23.88\00:46:27.22
what they are tested with.
00:46:27.25\00:46:28.58
You talk about baggage,
you talk about born with
00:46:28.62\00:46:30.62
or what they have,
00:46:30.65\00:46:32.22
you know, developed over
the years such as temper.
00:46:32.25\00:46:36.22
And I know as reading
the Spirit of Prophecy
00:46:36.59\00:46:37.96
one time, it
says, we will never,
00:46:37.99\00:46:39.86
if our characters are not,
00:46:39.89\00:46:41.33
other words, we're
kind of laid back and easy,
00:46:41.36\00:46:43.70
kind of come and
go and we can take.
00:46:43.73\00:46:45.33
We have no idea what that person
00:46:45.37\00:46:48.54
who's trying to fight
this thing of the enemy,
00:46:48.57\00:46:51.27
goes through every day.
00:46:51.31\00:46:52.64
If we did, we'd have
a little bit more mercy
00:46:52.67\00:46:54.91
on the erring individual
who wants to get it right,
00:46:54.94\00:46:58.15
who's striving to get it right.
00:46:58.18\00:47:00.15
And sometimes we take
our eyes off of Christ, so.
00:47:00.18\00:47:03.08
I've read this, I
thought how interesting it is
00:47:03.12\00:47:05.72
because this is
our Christian duty.
00:47:05.75\00:47:07.56
I found this is
my Christian duty,
00:47:07.59\00:47:09.56
and I found that in
fact Testimonies 345,
00:47:09.59\00:47:13.03
and it's talking
about this about our model.
00:47:13.06\00:47:15.10
"It does not become one
00:47:15.13\00:47:16.50
to pronounce
sentence upon others
00:47:16.53\00:47:19.27
and look to
himself as a model man."
00:47:19.30\00:47:21.64
And since you do that
sometime, we should never do it,
00:47:21.67\00:47:24.07
but sometime Christ is
our model, imitate him.
00:47:24.11\00:47:28.61
Notice, we are
not to condemn others,
00:47:28.64\00:47:31.55
we should love one another.
00:47:31.58\00:47:32.91
This is simple, and
pray for one another, notice.
00:47:32.95\00:47:35.38
When we see one
err from the truth
00:47:35.42\00:47:38.79
then we,
notice, then we may weep
00:47:38.82\00:47:41.89
over him as Christ
wept over Jerusalem.
00:47:41.92\00:47:45.89
And of course,
Galatians 6 and James 5,
00:47:45.93\00:47:47.46
we can look at it.
00:47:47.50\00:47:48.83
And I weep over this situation,
00:47:48.86\00:47:52.33
the real life situation.
00:47:52.37\00:47:55.40
I had a good
friend in the ministry
00:47:55.44\00:48:00.31
and he made a wrong
choice, he made a wrong choice.
00:48:00.34\00:48:05.01
But he was heavy duty,
00:48:05.05\00:48:06.38
there's books out in the market
with this man's name on it,
00:48:06.41\00:48:09.65
and there are some good books,
and I knew him personally.
00:48:09.68\00:48:13.66
And he made a wrong
choice and a lot of his friends,
00:48:13.69\00:48:18.96
especially those in the ministry
00:48:18.99\00:48:21.56
want to separate from him
00:48:21.60\00:48:22.93
because they
didn't want to be caught,
00:48:22.96\00:48:24.63
as it were may be
association with a sinner.
00:48:24.67\00:48:26.67
And how wrong that is.
00:48:26.70\00:48:28.70
And I thought about this
man several different times
00:48:28.74\00:48:30.81
and try to call and get a number
00:48:30.84\00:48:32.17
and I never did
do it, and just say,
00:48:32.21\00:48:34.34
we love you, appreciate you.
00:48:34.38\00:48:36.54
anything we can do to help?
00:48:36.58\00:48:37.98
Not to let him warn
what is wrong, we understand,
00:48:38.01\00:48:40.18
that's not the issue.
00:48:40.22\00:48:41.55
We're here, that's what,
that's what you do to erring,
00:48:41.58\00:48:43.39
and sometimes we don't do that.
00:48:43.42\00:48:45.12
And so, but I never did.
00:48:45.15\00:48:46.96
And about a year
later I found out
00:48:46.99\00:48:49.19
that because of the condemnation
00:48:49.22\00:48:51.79
of those who
supposed to love him,
00:48:51.83\00:48:53.76
no one came to his side, no
one say, we're here for you,
00:48:53.80\00:48:55.86
bro, you know,
we'll pray for you.
00:48:55.90\00:48:57.57
He took a gun and he blew
his brains out in the closet.
00:48:57.60\00:49:01.20
That's it, that's
putting it bluntly,
00:49:01.24\00:49:02.57
but that's
exactly... I wept over that
00:49:02.60\00:49:04.57
because I said, I
had an opportunity,
00:49:04.61\00:49:07.08
I felt that I needed to call
00:49:07.11\00:49:09.38
and to say, "Can I pray with you
00:49:09.41\00:49:11.65
or is there something I
can do for you as a brother?"
00:49:11.68\00:49:14.55
And I fail to do that and
I've never forgotten that,
00:49:14.58\00:49:18.65
that's all in
my mind constantly,
00:49:18.69\00:49:20.69
when those who...
00:49:20.72\00:49:22.09
It gets to be
too heavy some time
00:49:22.12\00:49:24.39
and when you err,
you need somebody.
00:49:24.43\00:49:27.00
Lord have mercy,
you need somebody.
00:49:27.03\00:49:29.60
Not to try to
justify it but just to say,
00:49:29.63\00:49:31.93
we love you, what
can we do for you.
00:49:31.97\00:49:33.40
We're going to
be praying for you.
00:49:33.44\00:49:34.77
To restore them.
He killed himself.
00:49:34.80\00:49:37.31
That's the right fruit,
that's the fruit of the spirit.
00:49:37.34\00:49:40.18
Bit Pastor Kenny,
00:49:40.21\00:49:41.54
I bet you don't do
that if there's a next time.
00:49:41.58\00:49:43.55
No. No.
00:49:43.58\00:49:44.91
And all you can do is say,
"God, we're sorry for that."
00:49:44.95\00:49:47.02
You know, I did talk to
his wife and so on later,
00:49:47.05\00:49:49.32
but that was after the fact.
00:49:49.35\00:49:51.12
And it's just,
but what he said was
00:49:51.15\00:49:54.29
all the people who I stood
with and I did meetings with
00:49:54.32\00:49:57.29
and I did, everyone left me.
00:49:57.33\00:50:01.03
So I'm going
encourage just don't leave.
00:50:01.06\00:50:02.53
Not to do that, yeah.
00:50:02.56\00:50:03.90
The opposite of what Christ did,
00:50:03.93\00:50:05.40
we left him.
00:50:05.43\00:50:07.27
And he emptied heaven
for us, he came and got us.
00:50:07.30\00:50:10.94
He's pulling us out of the fire,
00:50:10.97\00:50:12.64
he's pulling us out of the mud.
00:50:12.67\00:50:14.28
And I'm going to,
00:50:14.31\00:50:15.64
we just running
out of time so quickly.
00:50:15.68\00:50:18.11
But I'm going to combine
00:50:18.15\00:50:19.61
question three and question four
00:50:19.65\00:50:21.18
because we need
to touch on this.
00:50:21.22\00:50:22.65
Sister Jill
touched on it a little bit.
00:50:22.68\00:50:25.09
But putting all of
this back together.
00:50:25.12\00:50:28.26
The question
three is talking about
00:50:28.29\00:50:30.43
Jesus wants us to come as we are
00:50:30.46\00:50:32.86
and yet, we
come, as you mention,
00:50:32.89\00:50:34.60
with worldly baggage.
00:50:34.63\00:50:35.96
Look at question four, it says,
00:50:36.00\00:50:37.40
"How can coming to
Christ help a hurting soul?"
00:50:37.43\00:50:42.10
You know as I listening
to Pastor Doug one night
00:50:42.14\00:50:44.57
and a young man
called in and he said,
00:50:44.61\00:50:47.88
"You know my family and friends,
00:50:47.91\00:50:49.24
they keep saying I
need to accept Jesus.
00:50:49.28\00:50:50.85
Who is he?"
00:50:50.88\00:50:53.15
How can coming to
Christ help a hurting soul?
00:50:53.18\00:50:57.79
I forget that sometimes, I
forget that there's people.
00:50:57.82\00:51:00.46
And I shouldn't.
00:51:00.49\00:51:01.82
I forget that there's people
that don't know who he is,
00:51:01.86\00:51:05.33
living in this country,
00:51:05.36\00:51:06.70
with everything that's going on.
00:51:06.73\00:51:08.36
We have to approach
every subject in my opinion
00:51:08.40\00:51:12.07
as though there's
somebody who does not know
00:51:12.10\00:51:14.37
what you're talking about.
00:51:14.40\00:51:15.74
So you can't get, I never do,
00:51:15.77\00:51:17.97
but get so deep that the people
just have never heard this,
00:51:18.01\00:51:22.34
can't understand it any more.
00:51:22.38\00:51:23.71
So how does it help a
hurting soul to come to him?
00:51:23.75\00:51:26.82
That's a good question.
00:51:26.85\00:51:28.18
It occurs to me that even those
00:51:28.22\00:51:29.55
who once had a
relationship with Jesus,
00:51:29.58\00:51:31.02
when they are hurt or hurting,
00:51:31.05\00:51:33.46
the on the vision is
usually pretty cloudy.
00:51:33.49\00:51:35.99
I've done,
throughout my ministry
00:51:36.02\00:51:37.69
when I think someone has
fallen into grievous sin,
00:51:37.73\00:51:41.06
they've done something
that's big, and public,
00:51:41.10\00:51:42.86
and embracing and you
know, reputation destroying.
00:51:42.90\00:51:46.94
When I get them,
00:51:46.97\00:51:48.30
the first question I
ask them is "Who is Jesus?"
00:51:48.34\00:51:51.37
Because we need to reestablish,
00:51:51.41\00:51:52.91
who is Jesus to
you at this point.
00:51:52.94\00:51:54.84
Because they are
usually under condemnation,
00:51:54.88\00:51:56.58
a lot of self condemnation.
00:51:56.61\00:51:58.21
So one of my first
question is just who is God,
00:51:58.25\00:52:00.38
who is Jesus to
you at this point?
00:52:00.42\00:52:03.12
And knew they got away
through a lot of stuff,
00:52:03.15\00:52:05.65
you know, a lot of weight
00:52:05.69\00:52:07.96
before they can get to
who Christ is for them.
00:52:07.99\00:52:10.99
But finding out who Jesus is
00:52:11.03\00:52:13.53
makes all the
difference in the world,
00:52:13.56\00:52:14.90
you are healing, you know.
00:52:14.93\00:52:16.53
But you think
He's condemning you,
00:52:16.56\00:52:18.07
you're not, you're
going to kind of shy away.
00:52:18.10\00:52:20.00
But if you still
think he's a loving Lord,
00:52:20.04\00:52:21.57
well, then we got
some place to build on.
00:52:21.60\00:52:23.44
Because a hurting
soul, they are way down,
00:52:23.47\00:52:27.68
their sin oppress, they
realize they've done wrong,
00:52:27.71\00:52:32.28
and they need a savior.
00:52:32.31\00:52:34.18
That's right.
00:52:34.22\00:52:35.55
And they need a Lord,
they need the blood of Jesus,
00:52:35.58\00:52:39.72
they need to have the peace.
00:52:39.75\00:52:41.19
They don't have any
peace outside of Jesus.
00:52:41.22\00:52:44.49
So when we come to him
and we get to know who he is,
00:52:44.53\00:52:47.93
he's saving us from ourselves,
he's saying us from our sins,
00:52:47.96\00:52:52.73
he's pulling us out of the fire.
00:52:52.77\00:52:54.67
He knows the end of the story.
00:52:54.70\00:52:56.94
He understands that sin,
00:52:56.97\00:52:58.87
that the
payment of sin is death.
00:52:58.91\00:53:02.31
And he loves us so much
00:53:02.34\00:53:04.98
that he wants to
take that death for us.
00:53:05.01\00:53:07.35
Does he not
encourage us, in Isaiah 1:18,
00:53:07.38\00:53:11.29
"Though your sins
be the..." "Scarlet."
00:53:11.32\00:53:13.79
See, we need to hear
it, someone slips and falls.
00:53:13.82\00:53:16.99
"Though your
sins are like scarlet,
00:53:17.03\00:53:18.36
so I washed them
whiter than snow."
00:53:18.39\00:53:20.46
Then I read the
Spirit of Prophecy,
00:53:20.50\00:53:22.20
it say, there's no,
00:53:22.23\00:53:23.77
there is no sin
that God cannot forgive.
00:53:23.80\00:53:26.60
Amen.
00:53:26.63\00:53:27.97
You can't get dirty enough,
you can't get down far enough,
00:53:28.00\00:53:30.54
you can't get out of
sight enough, you can't do...
00:53:30.57\00:53:33.07
He's proved that in
scripture over and over,
00:53:33.11\00:53:35.14
when we look at the
men and women of God
00:53:35.18\00:53:36.64
and how they slip
so far, you just say,
00:53:36.68\00:53:38.08
how could he?
00:53:38.11\00:53:39.45
Because he loves us,
because he has pity on us,
00:53:39.48\00:53:41.82
because he, you know
he puts forth efforts
00:53:41.85\00:53:44.55
to win us and he will never...
00:53:44.59\00:53:46.09
Listen, now hear,
00:53:46.12\00:53:47.46
He will never
cease to work on you,
00:53:47.49\00:53:49.86
even though you
forgetting, you've grown cold,
00:53:49.89\00:53:53.93
unpardonable sin, He
still working on you.
00:53:53.96\00:53:56.73
That's how much he care for you.
00:53:56.77\00:53:58.10
Prayer God will never
ever not answer "Save me.
00:53:58.13\00:54:01.80
Oh, save me."
00:54:01.84\00:54:03.24
I've got a
scripture in Psalms 38:4,
00:54:03.27\00:54:05.94
it says, "For my iniquities
have gone over my head,
00:54:05.97\00:54:09.88
like a heavy burden
they are too heavy for me."
00:54:09.91\00:54:12.51
Do you remember
00:54:12.55\00:54:14.48
when you asked Jesus Christ
to be the Lord to your life
00:54:14.52\00:54:17.15
and the burden of your
sins rolled off of you.
00:54:17.19\00:54:19.79
See, some people were
so young and didn't have
00:54:19.82\00:54:22.62
that weightiness of sin,
some of us weren't so young,
00:54:22.66\00:54:26.49
and we had that
weightiness of sin,
00:54:26.53\00:54:28.70
and all the joy
that flood your soul
00:54:28.73\00:54:32.10
to quote lines from
Psalm but they are true lines.
00:54:32.13\00:54:35.70
And you stand before God then
00:54:35.74\00:54:37.97
with that burden
rolled off of you
00:54:38.01\00:54:39.81
and it's all because of Christ.
00:54:39.84\00:54:43.61
You know usually,
there are some people
00:54:43.65\00:54:45.31
who are so harden their sense,
00:54:45.35\00:54:46.68
they really
don't see themselves.
00:54:46.72\00:54:48.12
But usually, when a
person has messed up,
00:54:48.15\00:54:50.82
they know, you know, they know.
00:54:50.85\00:54:53.12
And they feel they
would have continuation.
00:54:53.15\00:54:54.86
I'm looking at Isaiah 42:3,
00:54:54.89\00:54:57.16
a bruised reed and smoking flax.
00:54:57.19\00:54:59.19
You know when you
come to the Lord broken,
00:54:59.23\00:55:01.66
and bruised, and
under that weight of sin
00:55:01.70\00:55:03.37
that you were talking
about, the Lord doesn't...
00:55:03.40\00:55:05.30
you know he's not, that's not,
00:55:05.33\00:55:07.30
you know, he's not doing that.
00:55:07.34\00:55:09.14
He's exact opposite.
00:55:09.17\00:55:10.61
Because you know,
you know you've messed up
00:55:10.64\00:55:12.31
and you feel far away.
00:55:12.34\00:55:13.68
And the devil is saying,
"See, I told you, I told you."
00:55:13.71\00:55:16.14
You can't go back.
Right, you can't go back.
00:55:16.18\00:55:17.95
And again, you coming
back again with that thing.
00:55:17.98\00:55:21.52
So you know, and so God
is not going to break you,
00:55:21.55\00:55:23.79
he's not going to, you know,
he's not there to crush you.
00:55:23.82\00:55:26.79
He's there to say,
come my child, I love you.
00:55:26.82\00:55:28.79
You don't like
that kind of treatment,
00:55:28.82\00:55:30.89
as you're going
through these things.
00:55:30.93\00:55:32.26
I had a shop teacher
in the seventh grade.
00:55:32.29\00:55:34.50
You took a test and you
missed may be one or two,
00:55:34.53\00:55:37.07
everyone you missed
below that you got a swat.
00:55:37.10\00:55:40.60
In front of the
whole class you got a pat.
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You know what, I
hated that class.
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You know what I was saying?
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It was the way back,
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it could be
taught in different way
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but that there was a,
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I don't realize
there's a penalty.
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But it's the way
that it was conducted.
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You already was sad may be
cause you didn't pass it anyway
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and you needed
some help to do the,
00:55:57.75\00:56:00.19
it was a shop
class to build health,
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but it wasn't,
it was a punishment
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and you get beat.
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So Christ, he
works out this different.
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I am so proud of him.
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How can't you love a Lord,
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why won't you come
to Lord that do that?
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That's right.
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Praise God.
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And I'm so thankful
that he does not treat us
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the way we treat one another.
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He is calling us in love.
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And everything, everything
needs to be shrouded in love,
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without love it's
a sounding symbol,
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it's nothing,
it's a tinkling buzz.
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We have one minute left. Yes.
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Parting thought, parting thought
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that you might
have, just something
00:56:32.39\00:56:33.92
just hitting
your mind right now.
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John 6:37. Okay.
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I love that,
"Whoever comes to me,
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I will never cast them."
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Anything at you?
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Jesus loves you and
he has died for you,
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parting thought, come on to him,
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he will change your life.
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Amen. Pastor.
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Joshua 1:9, same
thing Hebrews 13:5-6,
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"The Lord will never
leave you, not forsake you,
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so you can boldly say,
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'God is your helper'"
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Hallelujah.
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We want to have a
short prayer for the people.
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I'll pray they've been blessed.
Would you pray as we close now.
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Okay, sure.
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Most gracious Heavenly Father,
00:57:09.19\00:57:10.76
we thank you that we've
seen a little bit more of you.
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A little bit more of your love,
00:57:13.93\00:57:15.93
a little bit more of our
part in this walk of salvation.
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Thank you,
Father, for your blood,
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thank you for
calling us as your children,
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thank you for the
second, third, fourth, fifth,
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sixth, seventh,
eighth, and so on chains
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that are fruit of the spirit
may brightly represent Jesus.
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In Christ's name we pray.
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Amen. Amen.
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